THE HEATHENS TAKE THE OUTLAW CHALLENGE

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Episode Transcript

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Welcome to another excited edition of theOutlaw Dave Show on an Outlaw Saturday Nights
Outlaw Challenge weekend. We were downthere, but we are now on our
way to Sugarland, Stafford of thePub Fountains. It is the CD or
album I guess album release for BrodyLane AJ Vallejo from the band Vallejo ten

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X Entertainment. Our friends at ErskineEntertainment are out there, but we got
business tonight. We gotta, wegotta welcome the Mayor of Sugarland back into
town. Chris mother, father Nelson. He'll be joining us later tonight here
at the Pub Fountains for Paul Taylor'sbirthday from T three Civil Inc. But
he's gonna we gotta, we gottacheck it. He just got back from
that Big Rock Blue Marlin tournament.Our good friend Slade him. He's on

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the road in the Mile High State. Ha. Hi. He's got his
comedy special that he's taping coming upat the end of the summer. We're
gonna talk about Parfest and I wantto talk about my Homeric health journey.
As I travel into the third andfinal stage of my fingers Crossed and I'm

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gonna I'm gonna enlist not only physicalityat Heritage mue Tie, but I'm gonna
go to the Wrinkle Institute so Ican get rid of my wrinkles. No
that we're gonna talk more with thedoctor Jim coming up along with the guys
from from Till Your Ride and somuch fun. All right. So the

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special tonight in the third hour willbe a special edition of Musicology one O
one with Professor Al's hero Warren Haynesfrom the Alban Brothers band in his own
side project which is now his onlyproject, Government Mule. They have a
brand new album out Piece Like aRiver, but the focus tonight is about
Brody Lane, their brand new albumcalled Pain is Gold. You can go

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find the podcast. We previewed abunch of the music. It's all streaming,
and we talked to him earlier thisweek. But right now say,
yeah, this is the show.I don't feeling pissed every day. I'm
broke down, beating on the rmber, not getting young. But but you
keep saying maybe it's all right.I'm doing a whole by you broke smile

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that you've been gone. I don'tdance better that's all right. It's my
time to fly. I'm moving on. Yell, I'm moving on. Yep.
You got their communication back down,dragging her scowl the ground. Don't

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you know you won't even see youcoming. Wanna get you running out the
door better. That's all right,it's my time to b I'm moving on.
Yep, I'm going on. Yeah. But this I've had enough of

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miss so much days I can't getback, so I'm just going to get
the next train. Now. Givehim a lot back on the tracks.
Baby, that's all right. I'mknowing while my your go smile that you
being God come down the line.But that's all right, it's my time
to it all. Yeah, I'mgoing on. Yeah, I'm going on.

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Yeah, I'm going on. Yeah. Brodie Lane, Yeah, that's

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uh. One of my favorite songsfor the brand new album Paint is Gold.
They are having their album released partytonight. The first band doesn't start
until I think that thirty or nineo'clock. You have plenty of time to
get here. We're at the PubFountains in Beautiful Sugarland, Stafford, Texas.
And as always you know, weare kept on the radio. Bar
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on on outlaws. All right,all right, all right in the nine
one one garage door service kind ofstudios for all your garage door garage door
open and seven one fifty eight twentyon the phone with Chris mother father Nelson,

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and he has just returned from oneof the most prestigious fishing tournaments in
the world. And while you guysdidn't win it, you showed up and
you showed strong along with the guysfrom Wicked Tuna and Heather Smith from Heather
Smith Outdoors. Now the tournament itselfoff the what are they it's the biggest,

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it's the biggest tournament in the EastCoast. It was like six million
dollars in prizes. Michael Jordan andDJ Khalid, Yeah, what's his name
of the basketball player Michael Jordan.Yeah, yeah, he wanted like a
few years ago, I won likefive million dollars. It's his own tournament,

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right guy. He killed it.But this year was real hard man.
The weather was the weather was shot. So in Texas we don't go
out when it's past three feet.We're not mad. We're not that mad.
Adam, did you sent me picturesof eight foot swells and you all
look like you were green at thegills? Yeah, it was. There

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was so the smallest season we werefishing him was five foot. The most
were ten to twelve. But whenwe tried to sleep out there in Hatteras,
it was like one hundred and twentymiles from the dock we went to,
it was fifteen foot twelve to fifteenfoot seats. It was the craziest.
It was like the perfect storm.But we were with Robert Arrow from

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Wickedtuna and he fishes the outer banksand that's just what they do. They
fish in these huge seas all thetime. So we're like, are we
sure we should be out here?And he's like, what was Forrest Gumps
Buddy's name? They got in thewheelchair. Captain Dan Captain Dan captain Dan.
He was like, ah, we'rein it boys, and I was

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like, we're gonna die out here. But it was amazing. But you're
not You're not You're not in likea ski boat. I mean you're in
a How big was about your on? It was a forty foot forty four
foot topaz. It's a sport fisher, two bedrooms, no shower or the
whole thing. But you tried towalk around and there it was like playing

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pinball. It's crazy. It wasabsolutely crazy. I've never fished in anything
like this. Now is where weget them all? Everybody who who?
What wicked? What does that mean? And who are those guys? So
there's a TV show on Discovery Channeland that geo. It's called Wickatuna.
He's on the Outer Banks episode whichis in North Carolina and they he's actually

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there was four seasons and he wontwo of the four seasons. He won
his last season while we were fishingto Turnment together in Saint Croix, Virgin
Islands called the Dames and Dudes,and we smashed it. We got second
place overall, uh, first placesecond day, Like, we smashed it.
I'm huge, very very very I'mRicky Tiggitavi is what they call me

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out there. So that explain whatthe outer banks are because so we're we're,
uh, we've got the intercoastal waterwayshere in the golf and you guys
go out and you generally fish whenyou're going after big fish, you're going
out. So yeah, the outerbanks is it's gangster man is. It's
not protective like the golf in Mexico. Like they fish every day in five

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foot to ten feet that's just whatthey have. And we, you know,
we're like, oh it's three foots. We're not going on. It's
crazy. You know. I calledall my buddies and decks. I'm like,
hey man, we're a bunch ofpants. I'm just gonna tell you
that right now. What these guysdo out here in these waters is insane.
But there's three offters. There's alsoyou know, five main dollars on

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the line. You know, firstperson back to the dock with a marlin
over five hundred pounds, no questionsasked, get um. And if they
get the biggest marlin two it's threepoint six million dollars. The first one
back. You were saying, there'sa bonus prize like the first one back
with a marlin over. First oneback to main Bucks, first one back
to main Bucks, million bucks.It was this whole like being on the

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inner circle on that and no one, all the all the all the all
the crap that's going on between themall. It was it blew my mind.
Man, money makes people actually reallybead. So this boat sushi with
a fleet full of shooter mc gavinlawyer type guys. Where are they from?
I don't know where they're from,but they ended up winning I think

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like a billion and a half orclose to a two million dollars. And
and then not even just that,they had a decand that had stolen a
buck. I don't know if Ishould be saying this. They had a
decand that had been stealing. Theygot caught stealing a bunch of fishingers or
something like that off some boat orwhatever, and it warrants for their arrest.
So apparently the cops were waiting forthem to come to the doctor with

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a sish so they could arrest thedeckhand. Well, you know, maybe
all their hair fall out, theirpenises shrivel up, and there jockey shorts
being fested by a thousand fleas therewas a budget. It was crazy,
man, it was, it was. I mean I fished a lot of
tournaments, man. I fished theKing Masters in Blucky and then stayed and

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did the Missisippi bill Fish Classic,and I fished the Davis and Dudes in
Saint Croy, Virgin Island, butnone of them blew my mind like this
tournament. The entire city is inon it. Man, it was.
It was so cool, man,it was so cool. Every uber you
went into, every bartend or everywaitress, every buck boy, everyone was
like big Rock, fig Rock,fig Rock, and the whole city just

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lit up. Man, it was. It was. It was freaking amazing.
Well we already thought you were arock star here in Houston anyway,
buddy, but it was. Itwas I'm sure quite an experience to be
a rock star on the Eastern Seaboard. The tournament is called what it's called
the Big Rock Marlin Tournament, theBig Rock Just that was cool. I

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got to fish with Robert Earls conTuna Outer Banks. You know, he's
won two out of four episodes.He's such a badass. And we did
it with a broken engine. Man, we had no choice, you know,
It's just what happened. Boats manbreak out another thousand. That's what
it stands for. The boat isjust a hole in the water that you
jump money onto. And we getthere and he'd been working on it for

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five days trying to get this transmissionstraight. So I've I got, I
roll my fleas up and jumped inthe whole of him and we worked on
that boat for fourteen hours. Weturned around and fish. It was.
It was. It was hard,but I learned a lot on the trip.
I learned a lot of mechanical stuff. I learned how to how to
do a lot of marlin fishing.And it was it was amazing. It

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was a It was a great experience. I know you represented as well.
You were out there with Heather Smithfrom Heather Smith Outdoor, as you were
out there with the guys from WickedTuna, Michael Jordan basketball legend, and
of course DJ Khalid, who isuh? I guess, did did you
get to hang out with any ofthe big rich No? I didn't get

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I didn't get to see Michael Jordan. But there's a bar down there called
King Mackerel, and we got thereand they were like, here, did
you just fiss it? Michael Jordancame in here and he walked in and
he bought everybody's drink and then hepaid everyone that had a running tap.
He bought everybody's tap and closed itout, tipped everybody super fat, had

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some drinks, had some fun inthem. Last sounds like he's related to
you. That's the way you will, haven't We've done that quite a few
times. Yeah, what do youmean, it's all about my tap?
Chris said, I'm here with DaveMan, all right, So we'll call
this our fishing report, the BigRock Blue Marlin Tournament from the Outer Banks
out on the Eastern Seaboard. Itis good to have you back home,

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safe in the come finds of thecity. And you're gonna be helping us
host Paul Taylor's birthday and the BrodyLane album release party this coming Saturday at
the Pub Fountains, and they gota bunch of other people. But it's
gonna be a great day, it'sgonna be a great weekend, and it's
gonna be a big celebration of allof our friends getting together. Right.

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I missed you, guys. Man. I'm only here for another three weeks.
Man, take off the MAUI forI don't know a month and a
half or something, and did youtalk to me? Did you talk to
my guy there? Are you gettingthe set up? You got some leads
and you're working to put together acharity reggae concert for a special horse ranch
that works with special special people outon I have not called yet, but

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I talked to Dave Dixon the otherday here and Dave said, oh my
gosh, that was my old boss. That guy's the coolest guy you ever
met. You loved them and hesaid, you really wanna you wanta you
want to surprise him? He goeswhen you call him, just say hey,
listen if you want to. Ifyou want to who with the owl?
You have to store with the eagles. He said that he used to

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say that all the time. Hegoes after that will be in. Yeah,
you know what, you know whatyou tell me? You know Dave
Dixon and used to throw that athim. He's in. You know what
he used to tell people like DaveDick said, you losers couldn't sell it.
Care for cats and get out ofmy office. I can't wait to
hate the guy man. And thankyou for the introduction, because uh we

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we're doing some really cool things withthe told Momiley thing. We're gonna start
business out there. We're gonna buyfifteen fifteen million dollars ramp six hundred acres
and we're gonna run from really well, don't tell himbot. He'll try to
sell you about your radio stations.And he's got he's got an idea.
He's got a pitch for Netflix.Everybody has a pitch for Netflix. Coming
up, we're gonna talk with SladeHam. He has a brand new comedy

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special that he's gonna be shooting herebefore the end of the summer. All
right, now, on an Outlawsay it with me At an Outlaw Night,
We're talking with my good friend SladeHam from the Slade Runner, from
the Whiskey Brothers from I'm camping inthe middle of what Now. Where did

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you camp last night? I said, the evening a Polo Duro Canyon just
north of Houston. So by aboutnine hours. Texas is great like that.
It's you could try and straight hoursand you're still in the state.
It's a gorgeous little mini grand canyonof in our Panhandle. So I spent

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the night under the stars with somefire burning and you know, spiritual stuff.
Yeah yah, yeah, no goodstuff. And you are a world
traveler, for those of you thatdon't know, in addition to being comedian,
also a world traveler, which kindof collides because you're able to do
the traveling because of your comedy,and you use the comedy so that you're
able to travel. And I'm nottalking about playing the giggle hut in Terra

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Hote. I'm talking to about armedforces entertainment going all around the world.
Your latest trip took you to thenorthern part of the Dark Continent. Indeed,
we were in the northeastern part,and I say that we got into
the central part too. It waskind of a Schmorgus board Charcuterie board of
Africa. We were in Kenya,and we were in Jibouti. We were

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in the Sinai Peninsula, as closeto the Middle East as you can get
without leaving Africa. And then overin Niger, which is like in the
Sahara Desert, sort of smack inthe middle of what they called the Sahel,
very appropriately named. And you dropyou drug our good note. They
even talk about hot you drug youdrug our good friend. Jerry Wayne Longmeyer

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along for that ride, not thefirst sojourned for him on one of these
afe trips, but I you know, he just is so um whatever the
he just he just gushes about howexciting it is, and uh and I
know that it's It's touched so manycomedians lives over the past two plus that
we really get to do something cool. Most of our career consists of playing

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for drunk people in bars somewhere inthe States, and that's so filling.
Don't get me wrong, I likemaking drunk people laugh, but you know,
getting over and actually realizing you havea skill set that sort of alleviates
a little suffering or provides some distractionor does that second layer of good on
top of just the performance. That'skind of cool. So I think it's

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I don't think I've ever brought acomic over there who hasn't come back somewhat
touched, you know, just ohwow, I thought it was going to
be cool, but this was somethingentirely different. Yeah, I am battle
comic is obviously a good touchstone toappreciate what that all entails. From Bob
Hope to George Lopez to obviously,in the past couple of years, Slade

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Ham making the troops feel connected tohome. Now, speaking of connections,
pandemic saw a shutdown of the entertainmentindustry a nation, why if not worldwide,
But you elevated above that. Yourammed up your podcast, a Whiskey
Brothers podcast, one of the mostprolific company podcasts, I ten top ten

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annually UM downloads. And you alsobegan to chronicle your own midnight musings with
a video podcast, and that hasUM, I guess, expanded your contact
with humanity. That's that's an elaborateway of saying I got four dave.

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I you know I'm I'm an introvertand by nature, and it sounds so
antithetical to what I do for aliving right to say I'm an introvert because
I stand on stage and I talkedto strangers and it looks like this big,
gregarious, outgoing sort of thing.But when the pandemic happened, man,
it's for a minute there I thoughtI was home. I was like,

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where's that? There's not to doit anybody, This is incredible.
And then there were two realizations.One, oh wait, crap, I
make all my money from people,so that you feel that one But then
there is this other somewhat quiemal thingthat is, we are social creatures.
We're designed to be in some sortof community like community environment. And I

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wasn't getting any of that. SoI just turned my I was like,
I need a place to yell thingsand let people digitally yell them back.
And it's kay. It's given mea bit of a community at a place
to say stuff. And it's just, you know, a public forum and
all the good pool buzzwords, butmost importantly a grounds to just sort of
sort out the clutter in my headin a creative, funny way. Man,

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not that whole keyboard warrior combative argumentativedebating, but instead as the true
nature of the original goat singers,the comedians, the court jester. You
are a social observationist and you commenton the idiocy of the human condition.
Yeah. You have surrounded yourself overthe years with some brilliant minds, most

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recently helping to complete a life workfor the legendary last of the Texas Outlaw
comics, Andy Huggins, recording acomedy special for him. It is coming
out in December. We shot thislast summer. Andy Huggins, one of
the original Outlaw Comics. I believeseventy four at the time of the taping,
might be seventy right now. Hasbeen doing comedy for forty plus years,

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etc. Etc. We made,we shot his comedy special, and
we got distribution through Comedy Dynamics,which just handled the latest Jim Gaffican special.
They also did Eliza Slashing. They'rethey're literally the biggest distributor in the
game. So this got the projectnow and they'll start rolling it out in
December, and I believe it'll havea big you know, all the digital

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platforms, Spotify and everywhere you'd listenedto albums, and then it'll be on
all of the visual platforms. Butthen it'll do a second run on Hulu
or Netflix. So it's a it'san exciting time to be in the comedy
special business. People are kind ofcraving this long form stuff and they're in
a ton of it out there.Your own comedy offering digitally shared The Whiskey

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Brothers, which features I think maybenot the original but one of the basic
lineups old school of the Whiskey Brothers, is available on Amazon Prime. To
that end, though, during thislast half decade, you're working on your
second book. You are working onvarious inner actions on all the different platforms,

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but now successfully completing a is ita Kickstarter or go fund me?
What was it? Kickstarter is whatI think is it's more professional. Go
fund me tends to be what youpop up if your kid broke their foot
and you don't have insurance, soyour your twelve year old car got three
flat tires. It's kind of Ialways look at go fund me as the

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guy with the gaff can coming upto you at twelve or four in the
morning. You know what I mean. That's always go fund me. Kickstarter
feels a little more river Oaks lemonadestand So go fund me help put out
my dumpster fire. Kickstarter. Hey, I got a brilliant plan. Let's

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cut one of the peanuts out ofthe bags. So to that end,
a successful Kiss Kickstarter campaign and nowyou have the funding to shoot your own
comedy special. We're doing it withall of the groundwork that's been laid in
place with you know, it lookslike distribution will happen for it. So
exciting stuff in that world. Wetake August nineteenth in the Bayou City,

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so we're doing it. Yes,Match in a t Midtown Arts and Theaters
Center in Houston. It's right thereoff Main Street in Midtown. It's a
gorgeous venue. Tickets are on salenow if you go to Fladham dot com.
Limit if we sell them. We'relooking at doing two shows right now.

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Only the first show is on sale. I highly, highly highly recommend
getting tickets for a number of reasons. One, I'm good to the show
is gonna be this is a comedyspecial, and if you've never been in
the room for a production like this, it's really really cool to participate in
something that you'd never have access to, so and it kind of helps the

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next time you watch Netflix or somethingelse, you're like, oh, wait,
that's how they did that. It'sreally cool to be in a room
when behind the scenes stuff that's happened. And then when you're watching it with
your family and friends, you canstill paulls it and go look there,
Okay, no, that's me rightthere in the crowd. Because we've all
done them. So over the pastthree years, you've done I see at

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least three comedy performances an hour pluseach one of them, with each one
covering a wide range of topics,well, I took. I took some
elements of what I did during thosethree shows. You gotta remember those two
shows covered probably three hours, threeand a half hours of material. So
you go out there in front ofwhat I like to call a safe crowd,

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and it's not safe, but it'sHouston and it's my people. And
generally on those nights I was putinto under the soap bodies in the room
and they were all fans, Sothere was a risk of failure, but
not the same risk of failure isgoing up in front of all these strangers.
And what you do is you usethat as a place to find these
little nuggets, oh two or threeof these things kind of bit so let

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me take them and use them asa foundation for this new set. So
when you see it, while youmay be able to put your thing that
feels familiar, but it'll be unrecognizableelements of those stories, right, they
will have changed drastically to fit somebigger, hour long narrative. And't you
absolutely should come and see what thislooks like. An amalgam of your thoughts

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from the past three years distilled downinto one dynamic performance. And I'm hoping
that you're not tidling the special Iwant to make it hurt. What was
the I want this to feel weird. Yeah, that's that's not gonna be
the name of it, is it? No? No, no, no,
no. That was. That wasone of those bootleg one offs that

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we taped, and it was simplybecause I haven't been on stage and so
long at the time, and itjust will live in history forever as a
I'm trying to think of a goodequivalent, not like not like cheap Tricks
Live at Boudhocan, because that wasthat was recorded so perfectly, but one
of these things where it's like,oh, I could hear some pieces of
this elsewhere. I might have seenthis love. I'm not really sure,

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but it sure captures that moment intwo thy twenty. Well, all right,
tickets are on sale. Buy ticketsfor both performances. Well, y'all,
you'll have to buy the first thenwe'll sell it out, then we'll
put the second show on sale.Slateham dot com, Slateham dot com.
I know you're out on the roadright now, polishing besting, including adding

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augmenting, and as always, wecan't wait till we won't rest. Easy
to your back inside the city again. Then earlier this week, the sophomore
effort for Brody Laine, led byA. J. Vallejo, Paint Is
Gold, came out on all streamingplatforms. Tonight. The album released party
at the Pub Fountains with Erskine Entertainmentand AJ Valleo. Yo, man,

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let's go. Well, you knowwe're talking on the radio finally talking about
this album. You've got the brandnew album, Paint is Gold is Gold
fifteen songs. Dude originally had abouteleven songs and now it's got fifteen.
A lot to chew on, buta lot, a lot of great music,
a lot of stuff. Half thealbum is a bunch of stuff we've
been playing for the past year thatthe fans love, you know, when

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I'm gone hard living and all thatstuff. So um, I don't know,
just kept as the album kept gettingpulled back of it, I wrote
another song and like, let's keepadding to it. And you know,
making album is kind of a lostart. I think the responsibility of it
because uh, you know, it'skind of we're living in singles kind of

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we're all but I'm just coming tothe old school mentality. Man. I
just wanted to make a nice bodyof work and try to make something that
all sit together. And I'm reallywe're happy with it, man, just
really stoked, just falling out,and I love all the feedbacks, great,
all the everybody's digging it, andI think they like it because there's
a lot of uh, there's alot there. So what we first talked

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about it, and I know thatyou've been in the music industry for over
three decades. Um, yeah,you and your brother right right nice uh
tech X Entertainment, and you guysare certainly not just championing your own projects
and passions. You're working with otherpeople. But when we talked about this

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coming out of the pandemic, BrodyLane itself, the band was sort of
formed because of the pandemic absolutely,uh, you know with with my band
Ballejo, and we all kind ofwe were playing, but we stopped touring.
And you know, we're all comeproducers now and you know, our
kids and we all like we lovebeing home in Austin. So um,

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but I just love playing, man. My brothers loved playing too, but
I have to play. I loveI got to play guitar, and I
loved writing and singing. So umand Amigos. Amigos had come out.
Amigos had come out right before thepandemic. Uh, And so Valeo itself
didn't really get to tour and supportof that. But you are you were

(31:25):
already working uh with uh Kendall onLove and Chaos at that point. Yeah.
Yeah, we were working on arecord and uh she You know,
obviously it's just a weird time.It's so weird to talk about it now
because everybody remembers. The pandemic wasjust it was kind of like, hey,
you know, we got a littlevirus going around. Everybody go home
for a week or so and we'llfigure out. Well. I mean,

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nobody thought it was gonna you know. I mean we knew it was bad,
but I don't think anybody thought ayear later, you know, especially
whether it's venues or anything with clouds, was not gonna still open a year
later there was still you know,some kind of tension or trouble with that.
So think about that as an artist. I mean, never in my
life would ever thought, you know, hey man, we don't need you

(32:12):
right now, and they just gohome, you know, and a lot
of has to do it just becausewe were you know, we're in an
environment where crowds are you know itpacked house and you know writes close to
each other and reading each other's thereand you know, doing all kinds of
you know, close things. Butit was it was a legitimate concern and
as a not at the time,my my my bar owning days had long

(32:35):
since been gone. But the ideaof shutting the ice house, you know,
closing the doors and then locking themand then not opening for over a
year, so many musicians, somany venues, are so so much livelihood,
so much entertainment, so much interactionwas gone. It evaporated. Yeah,
So just having dealing with all thatas an artist that has performed over

(32:55):
you know, three decades, LikeI was going stair crazy. I was
like, I talk to my girlCasey, and I was like, hey,
I'm gonna go crazy or I gottado something. So I hope you
don't mind, because I'm already doingit and I'm already done. But I'm
gonna turn my garage into a whiskeylounge. I mean I have a full
bar of a grand piano in there. I have a drum riser. We
have lights that took all my stuff, all my tear and just made a

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club, and you know, itwas a time when you know, they
were like, you know, tenpeople can't have groups of ten people or
more. Sometimes we had one andten people in there, of course of
it. That's when we just startedhaving a kind of a speakeasy hang and
we'd all, you know, allthe Texas artists from name it to Martin
Kenny to Bree bag Wells, youknow, any any of our friends,
the guys in Sway, Robert Wagnerand you name it, Paul val whoever

(33:44):
wanted to kind of um, youknow, kind of it was going crazy
as well. We'd all hang outand jam in this uh whiskey lounge that
I've built. And from that camebody Lane, you know that. You
know, there was there was kindof repeating guy parties that were showing up,
which was you know Joe and Aliceguys were they were they would never

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Half of it was they would neverleave because they were like, man,
there's a fully stocked barring here,and all I'm gonna do is go home
and stare at the walls because Ithere's nothing else. I'm about myself.
So, you know, as theresult of that was that's just going hey
Manleice's Jam and uh, you know, Brodie Lane started, you know,
cranking out some tunes and then wedidn't really have a name for it.
And uh then we went to radiowith the first single, stuff with You,

(34:29):
and you know, the guys going, what's the name of your band?
I'm like, uh, Brody Lanebecause I was sitting in a red
light and it said Brody Lane.So I was like, I went.
I went to the rehearsal that day. I went to tell the guys.
I think we called Brody Lane becauseI just told it. I just told
the dj were called. But wewere doing a show um uh at the
pub Fountains Done and Sugar like whereyou guys are going to be performing.

(34:52):
And I remember I was there withArskin Entertainment and I go up on stage
and I say, hey, Age, what's going on? All right?
So I want to and I'll lookback, okay, which one of these
guys is Brodie Lane? And yougo, no, that's the name of
the band. I go, whatthe way? What? What? And
you guys burn that place down.People are still talking about that show.
I think we ended up with abunch of videos we put up and that's

(35:15):
when at least in part of SoutheastTexas. People started going, Okay,
there's a new force. Uh,they're out there. These guys are and
they got a lot of pent uppassion and they're sharing it now. You
evoked the name of Paul val earlier. He actually is featured on the title
track to Paint His Goal. Yeah, he's on the first track playing guitar

(35:37):
Shreddon And you guys have had hima few times yep, as well.
You know, we're all kind ofcross polinate with each other. We all
we're all but we're all homies andwe're all buddies and we just love we
play together. We say our stayjust together. We you know, we
have cookouts together, We you know, hang out in the holidays. So
it's not just like you know,it's not just that we just you know,

(35:58):
are all musicians that are doing ourown thing. We kind of all
try to, you know, takecare of each other and support each other.
And it works man. Yeah.Yeah, And that's something that that
I've talked about with the right ReverendBilly Gibbons. The Austin music scene,
the Austin family has been just sotremendous and this isn't a new thing.

(36:21):
This has been going on for fordecades, and you know, he's got
his jungle show at the end ofthe year. You you put up a
speak easy in the middle of apandemic. And the music business is possibly
as far as ratio success ratio goesis probably one of the worst businesses beginning
too. But the great thing isis the reward of being passionate about something

(36:43):
you love or you know, livingvicariously through younger artists that you're like,
you know, trying to teach him. Hey man, here's a bunch of
mistakes that I made. Don't dothat. I mean so, but then
when those when you see to success, when you see success with those artists,
that's the rewarding thing. And ofcourse, if you know, little
money comes in, that's great.But it really just comes down to trying
to create this huge hub of oftalent and kind of creative you know,

(37:08):
these creatives that that are all workingtogether, which is what I'm loving,
not only the artists, but youknow, I love to work with other
producers, other you know, directors, other artists, you know, you
name it, like that's clearly mightbeing a producer like, oh man,
this is a great track. Weneed some awesome steel on here. Who
can we get and you know welive in awesome Texas. There's twenty you

(37:29):
know, you could throw a rockand hit you know, a legendary steel
players. We send you cash dollar, Dan Johnson, They're all here.
So that's that's a great thing downhere in Houston. You're just what open
Brian Thomas can squeeze you in orsomething. So now we have the honor
of working with Mike Erskin and seeingof Vallejo co headline and evented downtown Houston

(37:53):
with Lost car n allis uh thispast spring. But Vallejo for the most
part your words, the last albumAmigoes is our last offering as far as
foreseeable future. We'll still do somesome dates here and there throughout the year,
but your focus is on ten XEntertainment, Love and Chaos with Kendall

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and then this Brody Lane. Thisnew album Paint is Gold, fifteen tracks
out streaming now. But when Itell people all the time, and the
most important thing that people can dois come to your shows, your live
performances. I look forward to seeingyou along with Jess Shi Sneider and who
else the American Gypsy Band are amazing. Eric Henty, he's a he's a

(38:37):
just phenomenal. The band's great.We're so stoked to have them them as
well as Jess. It's gonna bea fun night, Manna. We're gonna
have a big old party and we'llbe playing a lot of the new album,
so you know, just kind ofeverybody get ready to rock. Looking
forward to it and I will seeyou very very soon, my brother,
Thank you so much. Full lineup tonight at the Pub Founds. It
is your Outlaws Saturday Night. It'sthe album rely party for Brody Lane.

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Welcome to another exciting hour of theOutlaw Day show at an Outlaws out of
that night. Still got time tojoin us down at the Pub Fountains where
we are celebrating the album release ofAJ Valley host project Brody Lane. I
love these guys. First time Iever saw and perform was here at the
Pub Fountains. It's gonna be agreat night. Three bands on the bill,

(39:23):
come on down join us. ErskineEntertainment. You got Chris, Mother,
Father and Nelson gonna be out.Here's Paul Taylor's birthday and coming up
next hour we'll be hanging out withProfessor Aldo in a special edition to Musicology
one oh one with his euro WarrenHaynes. Their brand new album piece Like
a River. We'll be listening to. There's a song with Aaron Neville.

(39:45):
There's one with Billy Gibbons. We'regonna it's gonna be fun. But coming
up this hour, so I wantto talk with Gary Parr, who is
celebrating in the tenth anniversary of Parfest. But I also would want to share
with you that this is a significantyear for me in the life of your
humble narrator. I'm fifty five yearsold today. No, not today.
I'm fifty five years old now,and if I'm lucky, I've got another

(40:07):
twenty years left to me. SoI'm in the final third of my life,
hoping to improve my quality of life. And I've started to do some
cardio. I'm watching one day.My daughter's the nutritionist. I've been engaged
and enlisted the help of our friendsat Heritage mue Tie at the urging of
my good friend Luce Evareese and MichaelChase Corley. But it's got to be

(40:29):
more than that. It's got tobe more than exercise and diet. There
are medical considerations and there are advancementsand improvements. And we sat down recently
with doctor James Wrinkle from the WrinkleInstitute without the w R. I and
Klie located out in the Cypress area. I have a clinic out there doing
incredible stuff at I want to Iwant to share, well not only my

(40:51):
conversation with doctor Jim, but Iwant to share my journey with you.
He is already helping people we knowover I mean catastrodo medical incidents. There
are more people in my circle thatneed help, people with MS, people
that are battling cancer. There isa revolution in esthetic medicine that I'm super

(41:13):
excited about it. As excited asI am about extending my life, I'm
excited about the good that we dofor the community. Come it up for
Veteran's Day this year it is thetenth annual par Fest, which is in
an airplane hanger out in Brookshire,Texas. The House of Blues people.
They give me in and they bringthe salad, the light, the stage,
they video, the whole thing's incredible. But it's special because this year

(41:36):
and they're raising money for Camp Hopeand it's my good friend Gary Parr and
he had a band a long timeago, I mean a long time ago
called Ash and they were inspired.But the band Wishbone Ash. So decades
later when they got back the backgot the band back together, they said,
let's do it not just for grinds, let's do it for charity.
Here is the song that inspired whatis now Parfest, an outlaw Saturday Night

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I had Ante was stolen und blowingfriend l She was farwell about it.

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Hard to be shot. She toldme to try, but it's impossible to
find her in my dreams. Everythingwas hard in your seas. You can

(44:06):
allly try m h m hmgain Ihad because the scene, the hair was

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gon to rude, blowing free likeall the outlaw Nation lives here on KTRC

(47:00):
nine fifty using Farrell Foam patch likeJedis Farrell Dotta Farrell Cat The Roadcaster six
thousand has allowed us to tele communicatewith our good Fred Gary Parr of par
Fest twenty twenty three. Good evening, sir, how are you. I'm
doing great, Dave. Well,it's kind of a big year for you

(47:20):
guys. It's the tenth anniversary,so absolutely November eleventh, this year it's
on Veterans Day. Par Fest asyou just mentioned, we've been doing it
a while, so we got alot of things a planned that are going
to be fantastic music, fireworks,display, food, unane it we got
it Bible that aren't for me withparfestis is an annual event that takes place

(47:45):
in an airplane hangar outside Berkshire,Texas. Got the House of Blues.
Staff comes in sound, lighting,production, audio, it's live stream.
You can actually go back and seesome of the previous performances. It is
a top tier presentation production and youdo this event annually raising money for various

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charities. This year, in conjunctionwith the celebration on Veteran's Day, it
will benefit Camp Hope, treating ourreturning veterans who are suffering from PTSD as
well as many other maladies. Andthe original story why Parafest took place ten
years ago, Oh well, that'san interesting story. And I also before

(48:30):
I tell the story, I wantto say we're excited about working with Camp
Hope this year. You know,we want to raise a lot of money
and we need a lot of peopleto come out. We got we'll have
the guitar raffles again custom rapp guitarsthat people can buy tickets and you know,
this all goes directly to the charity. But how this started was myself

(48:51):
and two of the other guys thatwere in high school with Mike and David.
We had a band called ashback thenand we played together and that was,
you know, a long time agonow because we're all much older.
And I started playing guitar again aftermany, many years of not playing guitar,
and I want to call Mike upone day and said, hey,

(49:13):
I started playing guitar again. Weshould you get together and you know,
jam and he got David together andthey came over and Mike said, man,
we ought to call this par Festand it just kind of stuck and
it just grew and grew and grewfrom that point over the years. One
of the things that you guys havedone, it's a daylong festival. It's
twenty five dollars by o b asI said. It's in an airplane hanger

(49:35):
outside of Brookshire, Texas, andit starts at two in the afternoon,
so it's a daylong festival. ThatSun said, You've got the fireworks display
in the years past, We've hadflyovers and skydivers and the beauty of it
is as I've been able to bea part of it for a handful of
years. The bands that have participated, it's a mixed bag. So you've

(49:57):
got bands that are journeymen when youtalk about the Green Brothers, when you
talk about the legendary rhythm Bandits.But then at least in the last couple
of years, you've had some ofthese young artists. Illusion next comes to
mind, young artists that you guysare helping out and giving this opportunity to
perform on this incredible stage with thisincredible The staff is professional. But the

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first time I showed up, I'mlike, wait, wait, wait,
I know all these guys, thepeople that work work at the House of
Blues, they work at Rise Rooftop, they work with Live Nation. You
brought in the best, Yeah,we got the best. True, I'm
telling you that they are the bestof the best, and the majority of
them that are currently working the showwhen we do it, or they've been

(50:44):
working to show for a number ofyears now. Okay, you know the
head guy, Brian, he's beenwith me the whole time, maybe the
very first year or not. Butsince then he's been with me in working
with me on this and uh yeah, I mean that's cool. I a
young band that a man. Whatit would have been cool if back in

(51:04):
high school if we'd have got toplay on a stage like this. So
I think I look at it thatway and say, wow, this is
a this is a real cool opportunity. I mean, yeah, we started
earlier in the afternoon, and youknow, people start showing up a little
bit, you know, later usually, but they should show up earlier because
we got some good talent to startingaround two o'clock in the afternoon. And
then as you mentioned, we dothe fly over the national anthem Americans beautiful

(51:28):
long scenes that every year for us, and she's just fantastic. We love
her. And Green Brothers was backagain this year with a little different concept
this year. So it's kind ofgonna be cool. We got a brand
new band coming in this year,classic rock band that plays locally around in
different clubs and things in our area. Rebard Cartels back again this year.
They were fantastic last year. Thatwas the first year they played. You're

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all musicians and that's the beauty ofit. So who is the headliner?
This year, as we celebrate adecade of Parfest serving the community at large,
put it on a professional show inan airplane hangar from its humble beginnings
a decade ago. Who gets toshare this professional stage and trip the night?
Fantastic? Who? Gary? Whois the headliner? Did we get

(52:15):
a drum roll? I got here, I got the applause, I got
a rib shot. That's perfect cashwhere we you know we started this thing?
Um? You know, we playedan acoustic set and initially, uh,
we're playing full on its rock androll man and we're doing a tribute

(52:38):
to classic rock, which I thinkeverybody's gonna really love this because we're bringing
in aspects of all different classic rock. Brandon is going to be primps and
do purple rain, full on outfit. Brandy's wearing a costume. Brandon's wearing
a costume. Yeah, No,normally he just wears some really Uh he

(53:00):
is a nice trip. He isa nice drip. But yeah, but
so he's gonna so when you sayit cost it, but like, are
we talking about a wig? Ishe gonna wear a wig? Yeah,
he's full on Prince. He's gonnalook like Prince and we're gonna do Purple
Rain and we're gonna you know,you know, our lighting, in our
stage presence that we have here,it's gonna be fantastic. It's gonna look
really good and sound fantastic. He'sa fantastic musician. Oh that's fun.

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You know there's a there's a bandthat plays that at sturge Us a Loadstar
rally that they do that. Theyhave somebody come out in a in a
I don't want to say it,get up, but in a costume they
channel the character. And we're nottalking about blue haired lounge singers. We're
talking about Get I've been doing aperformance and uh, you're you're you're lead

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singer. He is, uh notone of the original members of ASH,
but he's an incredible performer. AndI know you guys, he's family to
you. But he does a greatjob, Brandon, it does. Yeah.
Yeah. So and then we gotwe have my else coming back.
It's Dusty again. So we're gonnaget We're gonna get to see me fully
dressed as we did when we didthe tribute to Dusty. And then and

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then you know, I'll spill thebeans with you on this one. Okay,
So the finale of ash. Whenwe do the finale that night,
rot before the fireworks displayed professional evendone by the way, Yes, Texas
does that for us. They gofantastic job actually, And so I will

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look something like Gene Simmons. How'sthat got a thunder? Yes? Yep?
Okay, So you know I'm gonnaI'm gonna stop pretending like I didn't
already know this. I was outtalking with Gary pick it up flyers so
we could promote this event. It'ssuch an incredible event. Not enough people
know about it, here about itor come to it now. And I'm

(54:50):
not saying that we don't have anybodythere. I'm just saying more people.
We got space. It's an airplanehanger November. It's not hot. We're
standing out there by ob having agood time and joining the day. So
I went out to see Gary andhe has in his office stretched out it
is, uh, the entire Godof Thunder, Jean Simmons of kiss costume,

(55:12):
the leather bat wings and the shoesand what does that what does that
stuff weigh like forty seven pounds.It's it's not it's not just a light.
That's a handcrafted, hand tooled leathercostume. Have you even tried it
on yet? Idea it's like puttingon two full leather coasts. I have
no idea how Gene performs in that, especially as he gets older. I

(55:37):
mean that's incredibly difficult. Virgin blubbingand adrenochrome, I'm assuming, but yeah,
well, probably not gonna be herethat in our future. So h
but this is exciting. Now tellme this isn't your swan song. You're
not saying, all right, wedid it, We're gonna this is this
is growing. I know that justlast week we were passing out flyers.

(55:59):
The guys the Freedom Cruisers or Ridingclub are like, oh wait. They
kept pointing U B y O B. I go yeah, they go by
by. They were so excited.They know that the money goes to camp
Hope. It's only twenty five dollars. They're like, we're bringing out a
crew. I'm like, there's plentyof parking, there's plenty of room.
Chris motherfather Nelson, he's gonna becoming out and I know he knows.

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Actually, some of the other peoplethere at the Airstrip Parfest, the tenth
anniversary twenty twenty three gonna have ashre reprising their headlining role as they did
a decade ago. Gary, It'salways good to talk to you, my
brother. I think so wishbone ashmight be appropriate at this point. What
do you think? Well, youknow, of course we dropped that wishbone

(56:43):
and you'll talk about that. I'msure our introduction. So yeah, thanks,
thanks a lot to love you.Love you man, and uh you
know, love having you as rMC and host. Love you too.
Buddy Way, I'm way Betty.That Eddie's tronk, Eddie tronk. What
a pain in the sec is allright? We continue Outlaw Saturday Night.
All Right, all right, allright, all right, Geryl Buddy Outlaw,

(57:07):
Dave Allen, Lonesome Dove Morris,Thankyang. How do you vote?
Got Ron for us from Carnival CustomPenny until you ride, He's like he
guys just talk about in the banduntil you're ride. Um, you're a
father, Reese, Now do youhave more than wich home? I have
my son Reese and my daughter Caitlin. Okay, right, doctor Jim from

(57:30):
the Wrinkle Institute. You have girlsJessica Jaden and Jacqueline. You know,
a man surrounded by women is aman who is truly blessed. I am
extremely ancious. What did you say, patient? I have two daughters and
two sons. I get the bestof both worlds. I've got all the

(57:52):
love. And then no, it'sgot the gate you gotta you're gonna talk
into the second's he got a littlenoisy here and I and I and I
want to have a candid conversation.We have forged a plan to So Ron
came to me and he's like,Hey, I'm in my fifties, have
lived hardly thirties, and I wantto feel like I've been my early thirties.

(58:15):
And I found a guy who canhelp me do it. He's got
a business, he's got a credo, he's got a philosophy, he's got
an approach, and I think thatyou can help him. And so he
came out to bike some bugs sponsoredby our friends with Republic Earliday. It's
a benefit of the Texas and AptiveAquatics working with my Ability Challenge Individuals and

(58:37):
the Epilepsy Foundation of Texas, amuch maligned and often under recognize malady that
hundreds of thousands of people suffer fromepilepsy and they suffer in silence because of
a stigma insurance, et cetera.And so we met doctor James Wrinkle Jimmy
Jams, doctor Jim from the fromthe Wrinkle Institute, and began to have

(58:59):
He came and dinner, interviewed duringbikes some bugs and talked about some of
the treatment and some of the thingsthat you're doing with people. And and
then subsequently I've gone out to theWrinkle Institute and it's on uh FM twenty
nine twenty and uh looked at whathe's doing and begun to talk about the

(59:22):
philosophy the arc of this story.And I said, look, I got
I got a plan. And hewas gracious enough to say, oh,
yeah, you're a rock and rollstuff. And I said, look,
I've I've lived really hard and Ijust turned fifty five, and I've got
kids that uh we're born in thisdecade. UH, and I need to

(59:45):
stay alive for another twenty five orthirty years. But I don't want to
do the traditional American uh US heyyeah, yes, father, say yeah
Father's Day Week at celebration. Werecorded the program here at Republic Harlia David's
him UH. And I said,so, I you know, most of

(01:00:07):
the people have the people I knowthat are my own age have really aged
hard. I can't imagine what they'regonna look as sectogenarians and octogenarians. And
I don't want to do that.And I feel like he's the guy,
with his approach that can help mefacilitate that. So I said, what
I want to do is a Homericjourney of health, and he says,
day, I don't. I don'tthink anybody's gonna get the Homeric reference.

(01:00:30):
I go, oh, you know, you're probably right. We'll just fall
out a hero's journey, right,and and and so, just in the
brief time that we've interacted from JJ, one of the nurses at the Wrinkle
Institute who suffered a stroke seven weeksago, and I was able to see
video of JJ basically a right sidebody paralysis, motor functions diminished, and

(01:00:59):
and and I don't know the theand I don't. I don't they would
belittle our conversation to to mire downin the technical aspects. When you have
a stroke, it limits the neurological, the muscle memory, it's all debilitative.
You have you have belle palsy inyour face, your your arm,
And I saw all this on video. At the same time, I'm watching

(01:01:19):
JJ get like UV blood wash andthen sitting in a hyperbaric chamber and he's
normal. It's JJ ish. ButI said to doctor so, I said,
so ten years ago, how longwould it have taken him JJ to
recover to this point? And he'slooked at me because he wouldn't have this

(01:01:45):
this is It would have been yearsof physical therapy. But as far as
the motor neurons and that uh facetAnd we live in a world where they're
extending our lives, but our qualityof life has not been extended, not
traditionally. And uh, i'm aI lived pretty hard. I mean,

(01:02:06):
I'm I'm I slid into third thinkingI wasn't gonna get the go to home
and now I'm like, okay,I don't want And he said, Okay,
that's exactly what I'm want to do. I want to teach people,
treat people, and show people howto recapture their vitality. And there's a
way to do that, and bigpharma and the medical insurance companies and not

(01:02:30):
an indictment of doctors, but thatit's designed to not we're treating symptoms,
not the problem, right, Imean getting getting old is not necessary anymore.
You're gonna age, but it's anumber. And then going backwards.
The technology is so super advanced nowwe're able to measure your your energy um

(01:02:52):
pretty much on age. We're literallydoing a show, Dave doctor Jim's Vitam
motors, don't tell us, flight, don't tell, don't tell anybody.
And he's wearing flip flops. We'regonna have to sell him boots to all
be all right. It's not thefirst time I wrote a motorcycle and flip
flops. Um. Yeah, SoI mean that that's the beauty of it.

(01:03:13):
Right after twenty years of emergency medicineand going down this path of just
watching people suffer and getting more andmore pills and watching the kind of the
debilitated process of you know, nobodywants to wake up and feel old,
right, And now the technology hashas gotten so impressive that it's actually we're
able to measure where you are beforeyou actually get there. One of the

(01:03:34):
guys here at Republic, Harley Davidson, we were having a chat when we
were looking at the motorcycles and he'slike, how does that work? And
I said, let me explain yourbody is a big giant biomechanical battery.
Okay, And all we do iswe hook up a positive prope and we
hook up a negative prope, andthen we run a computer system. The
computer system measures the impedance through allfacets of the tissue and it prints out

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a report and says, this isa problem. Your brain is a problem,
your kidneys a problem. You're intestineis the problem. Or if you're
females or you know from that perspective, you have menopause, your thyroid's a
problem, you have weight issues.All that stuff comes out and on a
computer report that's about fifty pages rightnow, and they're always advancing the technology,

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so it's something that's absolutely impressive.The problem is that the knowledge that
they had accumulated fifty years ago,a hundred years ago is no longer useful
because of the environmental factors at playand the genetic degradation that's occurred from hormones,
from the chemicals from the classics food. So so so everything is you're

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you're now as a physician, asa doctor, as a researchers, a
scientist. Everything's brand new. You'redealing with a whole new set of variables
and unfortunately, and I'm not againyou know my background doctors and the medical
industry and the medical schools, whatthey learned thirty years ago is outdated.
Yeah, every day. Yeah,No, I mean that's the beauty of

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my teachers. My teachers always saidwhen we sat down, fifty percent of
what you learn is gonna be wrong. We just don't know which fifty percent.
So I mean that goes to showyou, right, right, I
mean it's and that's a fascinating bitfor me. Right. The science is
just absolutely earth shattering and what itdoes and what we can do for chronic

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people is we Like I said withthe Dave when he came in for the
office visit, I was like,how would you like to feel thirty?
And he's like what, Like,yeah, my goal is to take ten
years off and now as the technologyadvances, we are slogan as we had
quality to your years, because nobodywants to live forever and feel miserable.
So we said the run on theway down. My plan is to live

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to about one hundred and ten andthen just turn off and go to sleep.
Boom. You just got back fromMiami. There was a conference there
and the first thing you said tome was, Dave, these were a
research scientists and doctors from around theworld. Japan and Germany are light years
ahead of us, absolutely, butwe have the benefit thanks to these sorts

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of seminars and conferences. Even ifour own institutions are progressing, doctors like
yourself are reaching out and are areseeking out the education and the advancement,
and so the knowledge is out there. We just need to accumulate it and
dispense it. Yeah, I meanthe beauty of these groups. So I

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was at American Academy and stem cellphysicians. It's a bunch of all different
walks of life, all different kindsof people, researchers, PhDs, tissue
engineers that all sit in a collaborativegroup and give up their research. They
are not stingy. If you havebeen any kind of anywhere or aged.
Everybody likes to keep their trade secrets. That doesn't exist in this field.

(01:06:50):
It's so new that they're trying tomove it forward that it's an absolute.
It's everybody's allowed to come to theparty. It's funny because in so many
industries that is it's all proprietary informationand everybody so a million years ago when
they were doing research in the automobileindustry, they were realizing that they were
getting a lot of kidney donors fromfront collisions. The engine the transmission would

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come through the firewall, the firewall, and it would kill the people in
the car. The Swedes at Volvo, I think, created a tilt down
firewall that would a head on collisionthat would force the transmission the engine wall
out underneath the vehicle. And youknow what they did, They shared it
with everybody because at the end ofthe day, if we can all elevate

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together, we all benefit. There'sno point in being stingy and having that
sort of I need to benefit atthe expense of other people. We can
all hopefully vibrate at a higher frequencyto go. That's the goal, right
Yep. The rising tide raises allthe boats. Tell the Chinese that please,

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please, someone, tell the Chinesethat did you just now? They're
listening, Hey, hello, hello, Hello, So buddy outline, Dave
Alan lunks of dub Morris Ron fromTillia Ride and we're talking with doctor James
Wrinkle from the Wrinkle Institute. We'regonna We're gonna go on a journey a

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Hero's Journey of health together. Iknow that your uh the Wrinkle Institute is
all encompassing, that you do alot of things. And I was talking
with my wife the other day.She's in her um early forties. I'm
supposed to say that. She gaveme the look. He said, dude,
don't see Oh no, no,now, no one's gonna make God

(01:08:39):
got day. My wife is inher late thirties. She doesn't listen to
the show. Thank God. UhSo, so we're at a point now
and her mother experienced early menopause,and I know that there's it's not a
fab hormone replacement therapy. And Ibrought this up quietly to my mother,

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who's in her eighties, and shesaid, I was in a horrible car
accident forty years ago and it createdearly metapause. She goes, I did
hormone replacement, and the traditional philosophythen was that it wasn't something you did
for a long period of time,and doctors were like, I will not
treat you. I will not continueto do it. You could have a
heart attack, you could die.And so she was. She went to

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the mail clinic and she talked tohim and she found a doctor that said
no, you're gonna need this.And so for forty plus years she's been
on hormone replacement therapy. And shesaid that at one point she tried to
go off. They were up atthe lake in Minnesota, White Earth Lake,
you know missus Andrews. I thinkshe assaulted three neighbors, stabbed her

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husband, and drove the car intothe lake. So she goes. So
I got back out on the hormones. So there's so many different facets to
our quality of life that are advancingand growing. And I sat down with
a bunch of supercross riders, CrazyChris his gang, these guys they won
the Pike's Peak Challenge that are tryingto go do the Aisle of Man.

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These these these are gearheads and they'relike sitting down going and you know those
those farm Fresh eggs. You knowyou're careful because there's plastics sitting like like
what what do you guys on Twitter? And they go they go, dude,
there is so much knowledge that isnot it's not necessarily suppressed, but
it's not advocated. It's not advanced. And what I'm realizing is, instead

(01:10:25):
of being jaded and cynical, thatwe need to create a collective of people
that are forward thinking, that arecutting edge, and that we can share
and proselytize and preach without being preachyand go, look, this is the
example that we're following. I'm notforcing it on you. I'm not gonna
be like a vegetarian until you thirteentimes in an hour how I'm eating lagoons.

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But you know what, let's startsharing this knowledge. Ron. How
long have you been under doctor Jim'scare at the Wrinkle Institute? Uh?
Two years? You're COVID, rightwas the start cod You're hard rocking party
monster, dude, run businesses,play in bars a couple of nights a

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week, and he said to me, goes doctor Jim goes. He goes,
here's the Remember when you were twentiesand you you're raged all night and
you're up and work the next day. I go yeah, He goes,
Remember when you were thirties and you'reraged all night and it took your data
cover. He goes, where whereare you at now? I go about
three four days and he goes,yeah, he goes, what you've done
is your body it's refractatory period hasincreased because overall you've done damage to your

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body that we can treat. Yep, you sure can actually party like a
rock star at night and I'm upin the morning working ready to go.
Yeah that was in your twenty twentyYou're like, Okay, do I take
the one hour sleeper? Do Iplay through? And as you get older
and older, you're like, Igotta, I gotta take that that ninety
minutes to sleep, like please,please, for the love of God,

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playing through now? Just thirty justthirty, Like, I kid, I
couldn't even fathom playing through at thispoint. And we're not advocating stressing out
your body or your lymphatic system oryour endcon system or you're an I'm not
I'm not saying doing that. I'mjust saying, hey, I want to
get old and not feel old.Well, I mean you every Father's Day,

(01:12:18):
a Father's day, weekend, itkind of hits home, right.
Dads are going hard all the time, just like moms do. And you
know, it's, uh just oneof those things where you know, they
take care of the kids, theytake care of the job, to take
care of the house, and thenthey forget to take care of themselves.
It's like anything else, right,you uh You don't drive your f two
fifty two hundred and fifty thousand mileswithout changing the oil, all right,

(01:12:41):
So why do you think you cando that in your body? And that's
the beautiful that's the beauty of ourbodies is that it will redo it and
it will reset itself. All itneeds is just some a little bit of
input, and that's the beauty ofit. Your check engine light can be
a stroke, right, it canbe a complete breakdown, it could be
a fatty liver. But the bottomline is it's all treatable now, yep.

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And it's actually something that we canactually measure. And that's the biggest
thing, right. Science is allbased on measurements, and we couldn't really
measure it before everybody's met people inthe community where you know, it's like,
well Bill did great for the lastseven months and then all of a
sudden he was gone, What theheck happened? Right, Bills bick Bill's
light went on and that was theend of it. So, um,

(01:13:24):
now we're able to get it before, you know, like the all the
lights come on in the warning system, we can catch it at the beginning
and only one system based and thenit Actually the computer gives us really artificial
intelligence, gives us really great uhinputs and inroads of how to manage them.
And we can go backwards from dietto supplements to sleep, to meditation

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to relaxation. It gives us allthose impotent impotence inputs um so that we
can We got in about how backat the fifties the whole world run by
a bunch of impotite, angry menand like no wonder, we were all
on the edge, like we're gonnawe're gonna burn this place down because you've

(01:14:06):
got nothing to live for, nothingto live for. So when somebody comes
in and we'll we'll by my blog, So we're gonna come in and do
this. Sohmer does a homage.So is this like what do you take
a me up to a bunch ofelectrodes on on on a treadmill? Is
it? Is it a blood panel? Is it? How does it?

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What's the process? So, Imean we we do an intro process.
It takes about five minutes. It'sthat's the computer bit um that gives us
just a general overview of what's happeningin the system. It measures all the
impedance we get hormones, we getelectrolytes, we get your brain activity,
kidney, liver, um, generalizedprocessing. All that's done in about five

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minutes um, and then we workbackwards from there. Re re engineer the
body, giving back all of thatit needs, and then we continue to
measure it and change those parameters.Yeah, easy, breezy. It sounds
complicated, but with modern technology,Uh pretty sure. It's a saying because

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I'm too late for you, Alan, It's never too late. It's never
too late his sixties. He waitedtoo long. That's not true. My
parents were well into their seventies whenbefore I got into this, and there
was they were partners for over fiftyyears and all the complications of blood pressure,
medicines and menopause. There was noromance for them. And then we

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started to treat them. And thennext thing, you know, my father
saying, I don't know what you'regiving your mother, but you need to
give me more. So you areit's possible, which is way way way
better than they go. Well,we realize we're gonna live for longer,
we hate each other, We're gonnago wait. I was just gonna stay
here till I died because I thoughtit was gonna be till death. Do
we part two more weeks? Right? Oh, wait, we're gonna live

(01:15:55):
longer. I'm not saying my wifehas man, I'm just glad she doesn't
listen to this. Um. Sowe're talking with doctor James Wrinkle of the
Wrinkle Institute. That's R and Kl E. Uh. They do everything
from hormone replacement therapy. Uh.They've got the laser fat sculpteam thing,

(01:16:15):
true scope. No, They've they'vegot the No. I'm I don't want
anybody to think that it's just highend endrocrine system stuff. I mean,
you do everything. It's a fullservice institute. If you just want to
go in and get get a littlebotox for your for your frown uh line
or what do they call it,a worried line. Yeah, they got
that too. They got everything.It's full service. But seeing what you've

(01:16:39):
done with JJ and his recovery fromhis stroke, and I've talked to you
off the air about my friend that'sgot MS, which is apparently treatable.
Now, Uh, we're referring somebodyin that's got apparently some sort of a
bone Americans. We're looking at alot of different people. I am so
excited that Ron has doctor Jim tothe table, and I want to spread

(01:17:02):
the word and I want everybody tofind out right because there's enough. It's
not like it's that fine out.Who are those people that go to the
door to door and they try toget you into heaven even though they only
believe that the five hundred and sixtyfive people did. Yeah, we would
be stingy if there was a finiteamount, but there's not. This is
unlimited, unlimited health, unlimited life, unlimited happiness. To that end,

(01:17:26):
I asked at each one of you, do three things for me. Be
the voice of reason in the seaof in Saturday. If you see a
wrong, make it up right soyou get a chance to help a fell
a human being, just do it. Because we're all part of the crazy
human terminal experience together. It maynot seem this way to you, but
the universal unfolded exactly what it shouldbe. I know this would be true
because I mind myself living in acommunity of like minded individuals, people the
same hopes for yours, dreams andideals as I have, and together we

(01:17:48):
make this a better place to live. Happy Father's Day, everybody, as
we'd like to say around here,We're gonna say audio spitches as we like
to say around here. Audioches Father'sDay, Happy Father's Nay mother do