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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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(00:20):
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Speaker 2 (00:24):
This is about to be good radio.

Speaker 1 (00:26):
Oh yeah. To me, a craft brewer is much more
of a mindset. We just opened two camps, spread the
gospel of good beer, good beer. Tons and tons of
stuff going on in the beer world.

Speaker 3 (00:37):
I love craft beer.

Speaker 1 (00:38):
I love different people's beers. It's the first favorite.

Speaker 3 (00:42):
Cheers two old US beer geeks and those new to
the craft.

Speaker 2 (00:46):
What's on Tap?

Speaker 1 (00:47):
High five?

Speaker 3 (00:47):
Who? This is What's on Tap Radio Beer and the
culture that flows with it. Kears beer Guru James Simpson
and Beer Logics Chad Pilbee.

Speaker 1 (01:07):
And makes it to have live here. What's on Tapwady
to Welcome, Welcome to the shows. What's on Tapwady? You're
listening to? I am James. We have the infamous for
lotching himself, mister Chad Pilbey and kicking it on third
Mic Harbor light. Bill, Welcome to the show.

Speaker 4 (01:27):
Thank you, sir. Welcome everyone to the show.

Speaker 5 (01:30):
Bill's over there. He's like, listen, I'm taking notes today.
He's got his clipboard out, he's got his pen.

Speaker 4 (01:36):
No, he did.

Speaker 5 (01:37):
He asked me for a sheet of paper. He's got
his clipboard going. He's like, you know what, I feel
like that one time when I was on the bench
and I had the backward baseball cap on and I
just hold the clipboard and there was no like coach said,
don't hey, listen, just study the plays and if you
see anything, maybe let one of the assistant coaches know.
But don't. Don't just you know, you keep the bench
warm all of a sudden, and then all of a sudden,

(01:58):
it's like, William off the bench, what's that clipboard down?
Grab a helmet.

Speaker 4 (02:03):
Last week of the production meeting, I got I got
chewed out for not being prepared.

Speaker 1 (02:09):
They'll do that.

Speaker 5 (02:09):
You know what he was supposed to do. He was
supposed to bring beer and he did.

Speaker 4 (02:13):
Damn brewer.

Speaker 5 (02:14):
You'll know that it threw beer for a living Bill,
all right, harm a light Bill on third Mike, thanks
for jumping into here and being a stunt beer liver.
Remember if you ever want to be a stunt beer liver,
and then not during dry January whenever James goes off
the rails. Uh, please feel free to send your resume
and uh we don't have an application.

Speaker 1 (02:33):
Well we need we need a resume, letter, recommendations, a notary.
I mean there's a whole process background checks.

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Yes, there will be a background check you, but but
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But as James said, this is what's on tap Radio,
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we want to thank you for tuning in. But there's
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those are the people who support us. So we want
you to go out and support those who support Uh,

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those people are.

Speaker 1 (03:01):
It's on tap Radio being presented by Tantric Brewing, super
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the TENACN Insurance Group, the Backyard Girl, keeping these lights
nice and bright, Babal Harbor Light Brewing, and of course
sponsoring our podcast which is available everywhere. A complements to
our friends over at Cask Branding. I am ready for
a beer thanks to our good old friends over at

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the Backyard Girl, which this segment is being presented by.
So thank you to the Backyard Girl for sponsoring. Are
brought to the table where I'm a beer. I'm gonna
bring a beer. Chad and Bill gonna bring some beers.
We're gonna kick this bad boy off with high, high momentum.
So who's gonna go first this week? Chad is gonna
be you. Guys are gonna be me?

Speaker 5 (03:41):
I really I want to make you wait just a
little bit, So I'm gonna go first.

Speaker 1 (03:46):
Okay, Okay, Like Bill and I are here.

Speaker 5 (03:48):
So it's it's after Labor Day, and so we know
what that means. It's time to break out the infamous
october Fest beers.

Speaker 1 (03:56):
Right James, No, not yet?

Speaker 5 (03:58):
Oh oh wait wait, it's not not yet. Oh that's right. See,
James has this rule that you can't open october Fest
beers until after Labor Day. So I brought this to
the table. This is Founder's ultimate Octoberfest, a bourbon barrel
aged Imperial Marsin. And apparently I can't open this.

Speaker 1 (04:22):
I mean, look you do you all right? You know
I have, I have what I feel that I must.
I wait, my discipline, I wait, okay, I wait till
Christmas morning to open my presence. I'm not the kind
of guy's like, let's open our prisons on Christmas Eve. No,
I wait.

Speaker 5 (04:38):
But if you feel, if you feel no, no no no
no no, I'm not gonna I'm not gonna do that
to you because I know this is your favorite beer style.
I would never do that to you. So I have
never opened the Ultimate Octoberfest and Imperial German style mars
and aged and bourbon barrels from Founders Brewing Company. No
way would I do that. I just opened the regular
october Fest from Founders.

Speaker 1 (05:00):
Tell me. Look, tell you guys, if you guys feel
you want to open Octoberfest, you do, you boo, you do.

Speaker 4 (05:07):
I'm not gonna open the Imperial one.

Speaker 5 (05:09):
I'm gonna open the regular one because I don't play
by those rules. James, it's not it's not after.

Speaker 1 (05:14):
Labor Day, and that's okay, the German that's just something
I James Simpson do. I wait till after Labor Day.
But if I see people all all over social media
drinking marsins. I just can't do it yet. I wait
after Labor Day and then I'm going I'm all in
after labor Day.

Speaker 5 (05:30):
But I gotta wait, James. I'm just following the instructions
on the can. It says crack it, pour it, love it.
It does not say wait until after labor Day. It
just says crack it, poor love. This is the Octoberfest
German style mars and Bier from Founders Brewing Company, coming
in at exactly six percent ABV, and it tastes exactly
like a marsin should with a little bit of molt sweetness.

(05:53):
I think there's some noble hop in there.

Speaker 4 (05:55):
Technically it is after labor Day last year.

Speaker 5 (05:58):
Yeah, it is good. Call hey, your belt right there.
Dropping that's your official fun fact of the week. All right,
So that's what we brought to the table. James, what
non mars in october Fest style beer?

Speaker 1 (06:10):
Are you bringing something so out of my elements? I'm
doing something out of my comfort zone this week. I
don't care. I work five jobs. I feel like I
can sit down and I deserve this, and so I'm
doing something out of my norm and I'm going big
this week. I brought to the table thanks to our
friends over the backyard grill from Sierra Nevada. I'm going
barrel aged Narwell, what are you.

Speaker 5 (06:34):
Doing with narwal barrel age?

Speaker 1 (06:37):
And that's burial SUTs. It's a can right here, and
I dropped it when I pulled out of the fridge,
so I'm gonna crack it way over here.

Speaker 5 (06:45):
James, James, you're gonna be drinking that. In the last
segment of the show, we got dude, he's got a gusher.
Well it's well, it's nar Wall is a big giant whale,
isn't it with a blowhole? And then and he turned
oh with the horn.

Speaker 1 (07:01):
Oh god, it's a gush.

Speaker 5 (07:02):
Sorry, Oh my gosh, James making a.

Speaker 1 (07:07):
Message my studio. Good thing. We're not at the iHeart
Studios anymore. I have every engineer kicking down the door.
All right, Well, obviously I'm gonna clean up this mess.
But this is the Imperial Stouts Narwell barreled age, and
this is coming to you at eleven point nine percent
alcohol boy volume, and I'm gonna have to let that settle.
And man, my whole studio smells like barreled aged beer.

(07:29):
And that's what I brought to the table. I'm not
gonna be able to actually get the tasting notes right now.
I all I have to do is get some paper
towels and clean this up during a break. But I
brought that. Chad, remind us what you brought to the table,
Thanks for our friends at the backyard Grill.

Speaker 5 (07:41):
Yes, Founders October Festa six percent German style mars in
very light bodied, light colored slight malt, sweetness and a
little German noble hops to bounce out with little dryness.

Speaker 4 (07:53):
But that's what I brought to the table.

Speaker 5 (07:55):
And as James is cleaning up, let's see if he
can multitest James, what's on tap?

Speaker 1 (07:59):
This We we're gonna get into what is the amount
rushmore of Kraft Breweries big beer exiting the craft beer game,
and what else that we can get to, oh seven
to eleven. Imagine going and grabbing yourself a keto, plopping
down and grabbing a six pack and open it right
there in the convenience store. All this is so much
more concluding coming right up the official What's on Tap
Radio fun Factor of the Week. We'll be right back
after I clear it this mess.

Speaker 3 (08:22):
Here in What's on tap radio. We know two types
of people, those you drink with and those that make
you drink.

Speaker 5 (08:29):
Oh, your parents are coming for the weekend.

Speaker 2 (08:33):
Either way, we're drinking.

Speaker 5 (08:38):
All right. Everybody's got a beer. You got a beer,
I got a beer. We got a beer. You know
who else has beer? The Backyard Grill on the northwest
side of Houston. But when you're drinking, you want to
have something to eat too, So go get yourself some
grub at the buyg. The menu is amazing. They've got
all your Texas favorites like steaks, Pahatas, chops, and it's

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all great on a wood fired grill. Got burgers, you
got wraps. Hey, if you're vegetarian, they got salads, they
got soups, homemade dishes, and specialties like smoky the beer chicken.
Oh yeah, smoked chicken injected with local beer. Sounds delicious,
right yeah, and don't forget the green beans. I know
you're thinking, wait a minute, is this guy just talking

(09:20):
about all the grilled stuff and you're gonna tell me
to eat your veggies. Hey, mom said eat your veggies.
Over one hundred different menu items. Get the green beans.
Trust me, you won't regret it. And over one hundred
different beers head out to the Backyard Grill in the
corner of Weston Jones Road on the northwest side of Houston.

Speaker 1 (09:36):
Cheers, all right, welcome back to What's on Tap Radio,
brought to you by mister Clean. So in the first segment,

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thanks to our friends over at the back Yard Grill. Uh,
Chad and Bill kicked it off with their October Fest,
which is a little premature, but hey, you do you guys.

Speaker 5 (10:07):
That's right. We're breaking breaking all the rules and we
can do that because it's really not a rule.

Speaker 1 (10:11):
It's just that's just what I don't.

Speaker 5 (10:13):
I don't crack the guideline.

Speaker 1 (10:15):
Yeah, you know, whatever you want to do, guys, if
you want to drink you know, summer beers in December
or whatever you want to do, man, just do it.
But then I decided, you know, I'm gonna go rogue
this week and bring this a big barreled age Narwill
Imperial Stout from the Sierra Nevada at eleven point nine

(10:35):
percent alcohol by volume, which when I was pulling it
out of the fridge, I kind of dropped it. But
I've been letting you sit for a good I don't know,
twenty minutes, but it's still a gusher and it got
all over the floor, and so thank you, thankfully I
was able to get it up during to break. But
now can I take a sip of it? I haven't
even take a sip of it.

Speaker 5 (10:54):
Bill and I are about ready to crack over a
second beer, and.

Speaker 1 (10:57):
Jas like, well, I'm telling you man, like it's it
smells great my studio. By the way, it smells bourbon
barreled age in my studio.

Speaker 5 (11:05):
So now, for those who don't know this beer, this
is Sierra Nevada. This is one of their great barrel
age narwhal is yum. Yeah. James Eyes are about bugging
out of his head. Booze hound boozy. You think it's
a little it's a little boozy.

Speaker 1 (11:23):
It's boozy, all right, Wow, But.

Speaker 5 (11:26):
You're gonna be drinking this at the end of the show.

Speaker 1 (11:28):
I know there's no way, there's no way I can
finish this and do another beer and do a whole
two hour radio show. But you know, it's been I
work like five jobs and finally I got a day
where I can just hang out on the radio with
you guys. I was like, you know what, I'm just
gonna do something out of my on my cupboard zone.
So I saw it's been sitting in my studio, my

(11:48):
my fridge, hair studios for some time. So you know
I'm gonna do it. I'm gonna do it this week.
So it said, please break in, you know, breaking emergency.
So I took the hammer and I broke it. And
here it is.

Speaker 5 (12:00):
What was the emergency?

Speaker 1 (12:02):
Just the fact I needed it?

Speaker 5 (12:04):
Okay, all no, but do you identified it? That's the thing.
When you need a beer, that is an emergency. That's
a situation.

Speaker 1 (12:10):
So I just, like I said, I worked so many
jobs and I just decided it I need to relax.
And so what better way to relax with a big
barreled age Imperial stout from staring Nevada at eleven point
nine percent. Let me take another sip, as it's been breathing,
breathing all over my carpet.

Speaker 5 (12:25):
I was gonna say, breathing. You ran it through an
air raider.

Speaker 1 (12:33):
Dark notes, oak, vanilla, coconut layered, just dark chocolate espresso.
For sure.

Speaker 4 (12:43):
It's all in this A year in the barrel, doesn't it.

Speaker 1 (12:45):
Yeah, it's all in this barreled age beauty.

Speaker 2 (12:47):
Man.

Speaker 5 (12:49):
It spends like a year in a barrel, and it's
been over james tongue for about thirty seconds and he
picks up all those tasting notes.

Speaker 1 (12:55):
I'm telling you, man, there's I can't eat anything or
drink anything for the rest of the show because my
palate is just I feel like one of those ducks
that when there's an oil spill and they pick up
the duck commerce for the Dawn commercial and they start
cleaning the duck after the oil spill. That's my that's
my palette right now.

Speaker 5 (13:13):
Yeah, you don't want to put soap in your mouth,
that's for sure. No, no, but yeah, James is over
there after every sip, he's like he looks like a
dog that just ate peanut butteries.

Speaker 1 (13:24):
Oh man, but I'm not mad at this decision. I'm
not mad.

Speaker 5 (13:29):
No, no, you better not be, because I'll tell you right now,
there's a few people who would say, all right, listen,
I am your full time stunt beer liver and you
just don't even drink just open stuff like that, and
I'll be right here by your side, all right. So
I think the backyard Grill again for bringing the first segment.
James and I are James, I harbor like Bill, and
I we uh we just we took it easy.

Speaker 6 (13:52):
October Fest guys are kicking it off with these big
barreled aged, high octane beers and I'm just sitting in,
you know, treading the water a little bit, dipping my
toe in there, seeing if it's comfy enough for me
to dive in, and you guys are just always in.

Speaker 1 (14:05):
So I'm like, you know what, this week, I'm gonna
just dive right in. And That's what I'm doing. Yeah,
you know, I'm not mad at the decision. We'll see
how the end of the show sounds, though.

Speaker 5 (14:14):
Alright, I know what you're gonna be drinking at the
end of the show. But all right, James, let's have
some fun straight in the deep end.

Speaker 3 (14:21):
Now the official What's on Tap Radio Fun Fact of
the Week, brought to you by Who's ever checked?

Speaker 5 (14:27):
Clear?

Speaker 1 (14:27):
This week that whole reason why Bill has that clipboard
in pen and paper right now, offishal What's on Tap
Radio Fun Factor of the Week, Take it away, Chad.

Speaker 5 (14:36):
He's writing down on all the notes. He's gonna fact
check me on this one. All right, Well, harbor lighte Bill,
he is a brewer not of just one brewery, but
of two Oakstown Brewery and Grandville, Michigan, as well as
of course Harbor Light in uh South Haven, Michigan. And
I know it's gonna sound weird, but he has from

(14:59):
time to time he has to do math. Brewers actually
have to do math. So, kids, if you're like I
don't need to do math, math stupid. By the way,
if you're a kid listening to this show, remember make
sure you have your parents' approval to do this in school. Kids, Yes,
but and do your math, do your times tables, your
flash cards, because you may need to use math and math.

(15:24):
May I actually make you rich and famous?

Speaker 1 (15:28):
Yes?

Speaker 5 (15:29):
I would like to introduce you to today's subject of
the official What's on Tap Radio fun Fact of the Week,
mister ken Ono, who solved one of the greatest math
problems in the history of brewing. And now they've been
brewing beer since the beginning of civilization, so on some
level math has been done. Now, maybe he wasn't very

(15:50):
accurate early on, but it's gotten more sophisticated and the
height of brewing sophistication in mathematics was achieved in the
year twenty two, when the head of the math department
at the University of Virginia. Mister ken Ono, PhD, author
of three mathematics books and over two hundred papers, and

(16:14):
was a movie consultant on mathematics. For a movie done
on a math genius solved a very very important math
question and they did it a commercial to feature his expertise. James,

(16:34):
I believe it's cut. Actually, I think it's cut one.
Could you go and play part of that commercial right
there and cut one?

Speaker 1 (16:46):
Introduce yourself.

Speaker 7 (16:48):
I'm Kenono, and I'm a mathematician. I'm a world expert
in number theory.

Speaker 2 (16:53):
And why are you here today?

Speaker 7 (16:54):
I believe there's an equation that you need my help with.
I'm known for solving Vermonigen's partition congruences with collaborators, I
solved the umber moonshine conjecture and many other problems in mathematics.

Speaker 5 (17:08):
All right, so the guy I don't even know what
those things are. I mean it sounded like the things
he just made up, but there are probably some advanced
mathematic theorems. Bill, have you ever solved the lunar moon conjectuum? No? Okay, no, no,
but you know how many pounds are grain to put
it in a podcast exactly.

Speaker 4 (17:24):
Okay, all right, so on the kids.

Speaker 5 (17:27):
Somewhere in between those two, math's gonna come into play here.
So Ken is this PhD, this head of the math
department there at the University of Virginia, and he says, I,
you guys asked me to come and help solve this
mathematics problem. And he's giving his credentials. So here we go.
This is the math problem he solved cut two.

Speaker 7 (17:48):
I hope to be remembered as someone who've tackled and
solved difficult math problems.

Speaker 3 (17:55):
So we're having some trouble determining the answer to this equation,
what number is eighty or sixty four?

Speaker 7 (18:05):
Sixty four?

Speaker 4 (18:07):
Boom right there.

Speaker 5 (18:08):
I didn't know the answer to that.

Speaker 4 (18:10):
Sixty four. Oh you did well. Of course you're a
Brewers sounds like it.

Speaker 5 (18:13):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (18:14):
Well, but he is a PhD.

Speaker 5 (18:17):
And he knew that sixty four was smaller than eighty.
And this, ladies and gentlemen, your official What's on Tap
Radio fun fact of the week is that Ken Ono
solved for Miller Brewing Company the equation that Miller sixty
four was sixteen fewer calories than bud light next, which

(18:38):
came in at eighty. Yes, Miller sixty four was on
the market, and bud Light Next was launched into the
market at eighty calories, and Miller wanted to clear up
any confusion for people out there drinking the beer. So
they went and contacted mister ken Ono PhD. And said,
would you do a commercial for us and solve this equation?

(19:00):
And then they brought him in and they said, all right,
got a question for you. They made him give all
of his credentials and do all that fun stuff and
then said, okay, here's a question. Which number smaller eighty
or sixty four? And he's like, sixty four, Thank you sir,
And now we got the proof and that is your
official What's on Tap Radio Fund fact of the week
is that Miller used a PhD from the University of

(19:22):
Virginia to tell you that Miller sixty four had fewer
calories than bud Light Next.

Speaker 1 (19:26):
All right, we gotta take a break. Good fun fact
by the way, coming up, we're going to discuss what
are the mount rushmore of craft breweries. All this is
so much more. Hang with us. We'll be right back.

Speaker 3 (19:36):
Because it's five o'clock somewhere Live life, every Gold and menanomt.
It's always time for the slackers of What's on Tap Radio?

Speaker 1 (19:58):
What's this fine programming? You're listening to What's on tap Radio?
We appreciate you tuning in on tap this week A
lot to get to big beer exiting the craft beer game.
New survey names top cities for beer enthusiasts in twenty
twenty four. I got this story sent over from our
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(20:22):
ad that gotten selfs in some trouble. Discuss that and
I like this story. Independent American Craft Beer Hall of
Fame being announced all this is so much more exciting episode.
Don't want to miss announce of it. As Chad and
Bill cracked their second beer and no worry, I'm still

(20:42):
sipping on my Nartwall Barrel Dage Imperial Stout pretty much
for the rest of the show. Pretty much.

Speaker 5 (20:47):
No, I didn't, I forgot. I cracked it open without
asking James permission because I asked the permission if it
was okay to drink october Fest beers before october Fest
and he's like, no, name, you do whatever you want.
But the answer is really know you're premature, all right?
Is it okay to drink Fourth of July beers after
the Fourth of July?

Speaker 1 (21:07):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (21:07):
Man, do you do well? And I'm so glad you
said that, because I just cracked open a fat orange
cat Fourth of July Kittens. What do I know about
this beer? Absolutely nothing. I'm telling you, this is where
marketing sells beer. I hate cats, but I was like,
this is a stupid name for a beer.

Speaker 4 (21:27):
Great can though it's a pretty cool.

Speaker 5 (21:29):
Yeah, but it's got cats on it. I don't like cats,
and I thought it was a dumb name for a beer.
And I'm like, well, of course I'm gonna buy it,
And so I bought it. And it's from new Haven, Connecticut, Connecticut.
Excuse me, almost mispronounced it new Haven, Connecticut. This is sorry, sorry,
Fire Marshall. Matt, it is a hazy IPA at seven

(21:49):
point four percent. Bill, give us some tasting notes.

Speaker 4 (21:52):
Go, oh, it's got a great aroma and a fantastic juicy,
juicy taste. That's got all kinds.

Speaker 5 (22:00):
What kind of juice you getting out of that? With
orange juice, apple juice, bananas, a lot.

Speaker 4 (22:03):
Of orange, huge orange, a little bit of mango, but
I'm not lying. Bill's right, Yeah, that's Bill's Bill's on
point with this, dude. You you struck gold with the
with the tasting notes.

Speaker 5 (22:19):
Noses beautiful nose is fantastic.

Speaker 4 (22:23):
One of the better hazies.

Speaker 5 (22:24):
I think I've really ever Yeah, fat orange cat all right,
fourth of July Kittens seven point four percent hazy I
p a from Connecticut and terrible name. I don't I
don't care about the name. But this marketing paid off
and I and actually I'm winning. We're winning because this
is what we're drinking. And yeah, this is yummy. This

(22:46):
is a this is a really good hazy.

Speaker 1 (22:48):
You know, I tell you, as this beer opens up
more where you know two and a half segments in
really really gets better. Man, it tastes espresso. I definitely
get the vanilla notes in there, but get to bare
old notes. But man, I'm telling you, this is treating
me with the respect I deserve. Again, this is the
barreld Asian prairial stouts from Sierra Nevada at eleven point

(23:10):
nine percent. So this is a big one hanging out
here with me in studios, but.

Speaker 5 (23:15):
Change us back there at studios, speaking like it's his
agent this thing's treating me the way I deserve to
be treated.

Speaker 4 (23:24):
Better than the way he deserves to be treated.

Speaker 1 (23:26):
I'm in a good mood. I'm in a good mood
because we have officially cross over the eleven year mark
of this radio show. We have officially been on the
air for eleven years. What's on tap Radio? And now
I'm gonna do this still there in hackey bits, eleven

(23:47):
years in.

Speaker 5 (23:49):
But no, man hasn't got us kicked off yet.

Speaker 1 (23:53):
But I remember when I started this show, I was
thinking to myself, if I could just do two years
of this show, I could at least go on, you know,
years and years later go you know. I we did
a couple of years of a I owned my own
show for a couple of years, and then we got
to five years. I'm thinking to myself, we could just
get to ten, and then we got to ten and
here we are at eleven.

Speaker 5 (24:08):
Well, the thing is is, there's not a week where
we just phone it in and go, eh, let's just
turn on the mics and see what happens.

Speaker 1 (24:15):
No, there's a lot of planning. There's a lot of
planning behind the show. There's a lot of people behind
the show to make the show work, and we've never
actually taken you know, hiatus. You know we'll take wee
kill your hair off maybe two weeks in the end
of the year, but we've never taken a month's off.

Speaker 5 (24:30):
But even years, you get two weeks vacation from your job, right,
But eleven years of just consecutive radio Thanks for all
those I've been hanging out with us for all these years.

Speaker 1 (24:41):
And you know those that have come, maybe they've been
listening for a year, maybe this is their first time listening.
But we appreciate all this and all the advertisers we've
had over the past years, and again all the people
behind the scenes that have made this show as successful
as it is. Thank you guys again, eleven years. I
can't believe it. Here we are still sitting here, still
chopping at it and still having a good time.

Speaker 5 (25:00):
I feel like we should do a Casey casein bit
or or what is it, a rick rick d'z. That's right,
this show is going to the top like a rocket,
you know, just going to the moon. Baby, Well, that's right,
we're hitting the stratosphere. We'll just keep going. We'll speaking
of which, oh Man, speaking of Hackey Radio bits. That

(25:22):
was just a setup I did for myself. I set
myself up here. What about buzz light beer? What is that?
What is that?

Speaker 1 (25:30):
You know?

Speaker 5 (25:30):
You think about Star Trek the final frontier, right space?

Speaker 1 (25:34):
Buzz light beer, buzz light beer?

Speaker 5 (25:37):
What if space is the final frontier, but it's also
the final frontier for beer brewing. Now, we've talked over
the years more than once about brewing beer in space.
There's breweries who say we're gonna be the first brewery
on Mars, We're gonna have the first beer, and we're
gonna brew the first beer in the Space Shuttle, in

(25:57):
the space station. Heck, there there's even a crater on
the surface of the Moon named Beer. And there are
constellations that have been discovered in the sky and they
were discovered by Belgian scientists. They named them after Trappist
monks and or Trappist breweries. So, I mean, that's not
unheard of to think that maybe space and beer go

(26:20):
hand in hand. But there's a little problem. You can't
really brew beer in a zero gravity.

Speaker 1 (26:27):
Do they have like a brewery on the space station.

Speaker 5 (26:29):
No, I think you'd have some problems with that. I
don't think they really encourage open flames inside of an
all pure oxygen environment. I mean, I'm just not sure
that's what you want to do. But that's not stopping
people from thinking ahead and saying that maybe we need
to move forward with brewing beer in space. And you're

(26:49):
gonna say, but why there's nobody up there? Is there
really a demand for it? I mean, what's stopping us
from just continuing to brew here? Well, ring to science,
beer brood in space is gonna taste better. I was like,
we haven't done this.

Speaker 1 (27:07):
They're really selling it, aren't they.

Speaker 4 (27:14):
Know that?

Speaker 5 (27:15):
Come on, I'm so glad you asked Bill, because scientists
have said that in a zero gravity environment, whenever you
don't have the old atmosphere pulling down on you, you
are going to cut down on those unwanted fruity byproducts
called esters and logger beers. Where you want to keep
esters low, those light, crisp, clean beers, you want to

(27:37):
keep those esters down. Scientists have discovered that creating beers
in a micro gravity environment, such as conditions away from
the Earth's gravitational pull. Oh yeah, actually those esters are reduced.
It also speeds up fermentation and produces what they're calling
a quote higher quality product. This according to lead researcher

(28:00):
Andrew McIntosh, he does not know us. Yeah, but his
titles lead researcher, so.

Speaker 1 (28:06):
He's ah, his last name is Macintosh.

Speaker 4 (28:10):
Yeah, I know.

Speaker 5 (28:10):
So he's probably related to somebody at Yeah Apple, I
don't know anyway. But they're going to be conducting more
fermentations under micro gravity environments in the future and continue
and this is going to be exacerbated and continued even
more as we do more with space exploration. Yes, curiosity
killed the cat. No, curiosity has us.

Speaker 2 (28:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (28:34):
See what I did. I tied it in with the beer,
with the Fourth of July kittens. But no, no, no,
you tie it all together. It's essential that we look
at some of these outcomes and decide which processes are
going to be the first ones we perform under micro
gravity and how we adapt them. It's all going to
come down to the changes and what we see. And
he's working with a team from the University of Florida

(28:56):
and these one off batches here and there in a
machine called a klinostat, which is a machine that produces
rotation and a negative environment basically negative g environment, basically
removes the effects of gravity, and they are fermenting beer
in there, and they're saying when they do it eliminates

(29:18):
the unwanted fruit by products of esters in logger beers
and speeds up fermentation. So they say that who knows,
there may be additional benefits to that, but only time
will tell. And research in the name of science is
going to the final frontier space?

Speaker 4 (29:38):
Do you already have that covect geese which ferments out
in like two days? And so I don't know how
much faster you need the fermentation to go.

Speaker 1 (29:47):
You know, you need like what hour and a half
ten the whole time you're doing the story. It's the
only thing I can think of.

Speaker 5 (29:52):
Nerd Well, not me, mister ma I know, I know.

Speaker 1 (30:01):
But the question is how much is a six beck
gonna cost you?

Speaker 5 (30:05):
I don't know. I don't it's probably like like one
thousand dollars for a six pack. In fact, Ken Ono, PhD.
At the University of Virginia did the math on this
covect yeast ferments in two days. If you do it
in zero gravity environment, you actually get a day back
there you go, it's a negative one days. He did
the math. He's a PhD. Folks, drink the beer yesterday,

(30:25):
that's it, last week, never be able to taste.

Speaker 1 (30:29):
But all right, all right, let's take a break. Coming up,
we got to get into what are the Matt Rushmore
of craft breweries. I'll give you mind. Bill will give his,
Shat will give his, and we reached out to some
friends of ours and they gave theirs. So well, we'll
talk about that. Oh, this is so much more. Hang
with us. We'll be right back.

Speaker 3 (30:46):
If you're by yourself drinking a beer and listening to
the show, you're not drinking alone, So be a pal
and put your pants back on. What's on tach This
is what's on tap radio.

Speaker 5 (31:09):
Welcome back to What's on Tap Radio, I say, welcome
back for those of you who are still with us.
Got a message from some cat lovers who want to
know what my problem is with kittens and Chad. It's
an arrogant house pet that pretends it likes you when
it't wants something. Okay, that's all it is.

Speaker 1 (31:29):
I'm just allergic to them.

Speaker 5 (31:30):
That's why I don't like fat orange Cat. Fourth of
July kittens, Hazy, I p a harbor light, Bill and
I are sitting here drinking this, and.

Speaker 4 (31:39):
It's like a fruit festival in your mouth.

Speaker 5 (31:42):
Dude, It's really yeah. But the other thing, Bill hit
the tasting notes right of them on the mark. But
one of the other things I don't think we talked
about was mouthfeel with this. And mouthfeel is how that
beer just kind of how it feels on your tongue
and in your mouth and everything. And hazy, I pa
tend to be a little creamier, a little smoother. I

(32:02):
think there's probably some lactose in here, but it adds
to some smoothness and even a little just a touch
of sweetness.

Speaker 4 (32:10):
But it's it's really enjoyable.

Speaker 5 (32:13):
It's not sticky, it doesn't hang around, it finishes nice
and fruity. It just I'm gonna say, overall balance And
as Bill said, it's one of the better tasting hazes
that we've had. We're in agreement on this one. Sometimes
Bill and I don't always see eye to eye on
tasting notes are on favorite beers, But this, I think
they knocked it out of the part. So uh fat

(32:34):
Orange Cat, even though it's got cat and kittens on it.
Fourth of July Kittens, terrible beer name, fantastic beer.

Speaker 4 (32:42):
Not made with kittens. Yeah, that's not that we're aware of.

Speaker 1 (32:47):
Yeah, yeah, okay, but all right, let me take a
second to plug our social to get a hold of
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(33:12):
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we don't want to talk about that.

Speaker 5 (33:29):
I had somebody this this is from the this ain't
no BS department. No, this really did happen. Somebody asked me.
They said, they said, hey, do you still have people
sending you the edible six pack? Uh carrier uh stories.
It's been a while, it's like eight years. And I said,
we haven't had it in a while. And he said,
well good and I said, what does that mean. He's like,

(33:52):
sea turtles hate them? Am I right? It's like keep
And I was like, oh my gosh. He's like, no,
nasty suckers. He's like, I buy the plastic rings and
I don't cut him or anything. And like like birds
and pigeons getting caught in there, you hate them crapping
on your car?

Speaker 1 (34:09):
Right, give me a plastic straw any day, guys.

Speaker 4 (34:12):
It's like that's what that was the other one he sayss.

Speaker 5 (34:14):
Like yeah, people ask me, like, you know you're you know,
you're drinking out of a plastic straw, right, and he
and do he dead serious? He said this. Somebody came
up to him said you know you're drinking out plastic straw, right,
And he's like, yeah, can I get more? Like you
know it kills the sea turtles, right, He's like, bring
the whole box. I want them all in the landfill

(34:37):
and then in the ocean. Sea turtles hate them. It's like,
what's your deal with sea turtles?

Speaker 1 (34:41):
He's like, nah, thoughts like comments of what's on top radio, what's.

Speaker 5 (34:46):
No, they're not. But actually he told me he says
he does this just to trigger people. And I said
you're a jerk. And he said, yeah, but I'll buy
you a beer. And I went, all right, I'll listen
to you. I'll listen to all your stories about wildlife
you want to kill as long as I know you're
not doing it. If you're actually doing this stuff, goodbye, sir.
But he did. He does it just to trigger people.

(35:07):
I thought it was funny.

Speaker 1 (35:08):
That's funny. I love a good troll. Speaking of social media,
I want to talk about TikTok for a second. Our
friends over a superior pest control sent the story over
our way. And this is something that I'm sure you
may have seen it or something like this before. But
an ad posted on TikTok by man Cave Bartender. Have

(35:28):
you heard a man cave bartender? Apparently it's a social
media drink. Apparently it's a social media a drink influencer
who has like over six hundred and thirty thousand followers.
But they pulled it last November after the UK's Advertising
Standards Authority, the ASA, determined that it was a breach
of its Code of concerning the Benefits of food and
food supplements, and so the TikTok ad for hand Here

(35:52):
Ltd claimed that those who took two tiny supplements before
drinking alcohol would escape the wrath of a hangover, and
that there would be no need for crazy remedies anymore.
But the ASA was having none of it. So, according
to reports, the ASA considered that a hangover and the
symptoms associated with a hangover, such as nausea, dehydration, headache, vomiting,

(36:16):
stomach upset, were adverse medical conditions, and as such, claims
which stated or implied that food or drink could prevent, treat,
or cure hangover were prohibited under this rule. Oh and
I want to know how much was he paying for
these advertisements on TikTok. I'm sure he was probably paying
a good chunk of change, because they ain't cheapd to

(36:36):
advertise on social media, especially if you want to get
it out there and get a reach for it.

Speaker 5 (36:40):
Oh yeah, because it's paid bumps.

Speaker 1 (36:42):
Yeah, it's paid bumps.

Speaker 5 (36:44):
Yeah. That's why we need That's why we need our
faithful listeners to just like, share, follow, subscribe, get our
stuff out. Because James and I, you know, James school teacher,
I'm what am I am?

Speaker 1 (36:55):
You do every job? Chad does every job. I do
every job Chad refin games. I'm calling baseball games. I'm
doing everybody.

Speaker 5 (37:03):
Out the high school beer drink. Yeah yeah, so yeah.
And if you ever do want to support the show
and hear your beautiful name mentioned with all these fine
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Speaker 1 (37:20):
But yeah, they had these hangover cure remedies all over
social media. I remember a company reached out to us
years ago. This is probably about I don't know, eight
nine years ago when we first started the show and
they reached out to us about doing some advertising, and
it was a very sketchy looking company. And the guy
we were talking to on the phone, you felt like
you needed to take a shower after you talk to

(37:42):
him on the phone. He was just like one of
those like just sleazy car salesman. Not that all car
salesmen are sleazy, just this guy, but uh yeah, So
just be weary of what you're seeing on social media, like,
oh yeah, well I can get these two little supplements
and take it, and I can go out there and
drink all night and not have any hangover. Hangover you

(38:04):
know whatsoever. Yeah, guys, you don't know what you're putting
your body there.

Speaker 5 (38:10):
No. Now I'm gonna dive into the archives. By the way,
as James said, eleven years we've been on the air,
we've got hundreds, literally hundreds of podcasts that you can
go listen anywhere. Thank you Cask Branding for bringing us that.
If you dive back in there, you may stumble on
a story we did with Jim Cook of the Yeah

(38:33):
you name drop him. He's been on the show three times.
So Boston Beer Company. As we sit here and drink
out of the Sam Adams Boston Logger glass, which maybe
that's why the fat orange Cat tastes so good, because
we're drinking out of this. But Jim Cook went and
he published his Hangover Cure. Do you remember? And he
didn't get banned on this. Yeah, he suggested that you

(38:57):
could drink beer all night long and not get a hangover.
I think he even said you you couldn't get drunk.
And I'm surprised this this past. I have to dig
into this again. See I can find it. But he
said before he goes out for a night of drinking,
he takes I think it was two tablespoons of brewers yeast,
powdered brewers yeast. Yeah, yeah, and and like that counter

(39:23):
like yeah, if you if you take you know, two
tablespoons or a tablespoon of brewers yeast, and it counteracts
all the effects of alcohol in your bloodstream. I'm gonna
look this up during break and then and when we
come back, I will, I'll, I'm gonna fact check myself.
But I remember we did this story. It was a
long time ago. But we've had so many people. We've

(39:44):
talked about, you know, best hangover cures, and we've had
people tell us what their favorite hangover cures are. I mean,
you know, James face, I know what James favorite hangover
cure is. Just call his wife and say, honey, make
me some dinner.

Speaker 1 (39:58):
Oh man, yeah meal. I mean a lot of carbs.
But I mean, as a chef, the best hangover cure time,
just time or just drinking moderation. Drink a lot of don't.

Speaker 5 (40:10):
Yeah, don't do it. Drink responsibly, as we always say.

Speaker 1 (40:12):
Drink a lot of water like that. I like I
do over here, yeah.

Speaker 5 (40:17):
Or anywhere else you go. Everywhere I see James go,
he's got a big old thermous of water, a beer
in one hand, a thermos of water in the other,
and he's always said, hey, man, it's good to see you. Hey,
do you know where so and so is? And also
do you know where the bathroom is? Because he's got
a bladder about the size of an acorn, and he
is always he's like, I gotta go to the bathroom.
I gotta go to the bathroom. But enough about James

(40:37):
bathroom brace. That's our number one on What's on Tap Radio.
When we come back, hold my beer and watch this,
we're gonna talk about the Independent Birds Hall of Fame,
and we're gonna be talking about the Mount Rushmore Beer.
This is much much more this What's on Tap Radio.
We will be right back.

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Speaker 1 (41:21):
All right, welcome to our number two. Got a lot
to get to this hour, including the Mount Rushmore of
Kraft Breweries. Got to get into that, and I like
this story a lot. Independent American craft Beard Hall of
Fame announced. I'm a big fan of that story. And

(41:42):
then I gotta get to the seven eleven story, Chad,
I gotta get to the seven eleven.

Speaker 5 (41:46):
Yes, we do.

Speaker 1 (41:47):
We do the big beer getting out of the craft
beer game. All this is so much more coming up
this hour.

Speaker 5 (41:53):
Yeah, before we kick things off for our number two
or oh, I guess technically we just did, but we
need to, uh, Bill and I. We're thirsty and James
is still working. That's gonna overflow.

Speaker 1 (42:04):
Poor stop it.

Speaker 4 (42:05):
It's gonna cush. We almost start.

Speaker 1 (42:08):
Oh my gosh, that's already happened to me. Here a studio,
I had a whole.

Speaker 5 (42:12):
This is a bottle conditioned beer, and it's all I
guarantee it's old because the way this this is a
beer that was not shaken, it was not stirred. It
was just a bottle. And I'm looking at the size
of the bubbles on that this is a bottle conditioned beer.

Speaker 4 (42:27):
But I appreciate you yelling at me like en amateur.

Speaker 5 (42:29):
Well it would. He's sitting there admiring his opening skills.
And yeah, I don't yes, all right anyway from uh
from the uh Chemet Trappist Brewery in Belgium. WHOA, when
was the last time we had a cheme on this show.

Speaker 1 (42:46):
When the ginger Man was open?

Speaker 5 (42:50):
Yeah, I know back in twenty fourteen, which is, by
the way, where my fact checking took me uh from
a previous story from last hour. We're gonna go ahead
and clear the record on that. But uh harbor lighte
Bill and I uh he brought this beer. This is
the chemet sink Sense, which is their Belgian triple and
based on the well, first of all, it is hazy.

(43:10):
It's bottle conditions, so it's that bottle condition means it
it is carbonated in the bottle and so oh wow,
that smells wonderful. It tastes that's good. This is the
beauty of these beers. You can age them for a
few years. I don't know what the date is on it.
We'll see if we can fact check that and we'll

(43:30):
let you know. But taste old, but it doesn't taste bad.
And the beauty of these beers you can age them
for years and year, well not years and years and years,
but years and they'll still be good. Hey, before we
get to the home my beer, and watch this very quickly.
In twenty fourteen, Jim Cook was interviewed of Boston Beer
Company and said that you could how An article was

(43:53):
titled how to Drink All Night Without getting drunk, and
Cook said that if you take dry baker's yeast, not
brewers yeast, it's the Fleischmann's dry baker's yeast, and combine
it with yogurt, well it will mitigate the effects of alcohol,
and you can drink all night without getting drunk. Well.

(44:14):
Esquire writers who interviewed him decided to reproduce the experiment
and it did not work.

Speaker 4 (44:22):
So I know you're shocked, but.

Speaker 5 (44:25):
Explain to me how the TikTok thing got taken down.
But Jim Cook was able to say that and nothing.

Speaker 1 (44:32):
Well, I think that he was. They were doing advertising
on TikTok. I don't think Jim Cook was actually doing advertising,
So I think that's there.

Speaker 5 (44:39):
It is.

Speaker 1 (44:40):
That's the difference. He was just making a statement, Yeah,
a statement.

Speaker 5 (44:43):
Yeah, all right, Well in that case, I'm not going
to advertise. I'm going to say this, listening to hold
my beer and watch this will make you four hundred
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Speaker 1 (45:02):
I hate when my computer freezes.

Speaker 5 (45:04):
Dang it.

Speaker 1 (45:05):
All right, oh, all right, well whatever, I'll get live radio.
But no, this is this is live radio at his
damage right now my computer.

Speaker 5 (45:12):
This reminds me of the ripping reeds we used to do.

Speaker 1 (45:15):
Holy schnikes. All right, whatever, So let's get to the
home my beer and watch this which I'm wondering. Why
would someone vandalize someone else's property with teeny weenies? But
a question you never thought you're here? Cocktail, a little
tiny cocktail weenies. Yeah, a little nice that cocktail parties
a little uh, you put a little toothpick in it.

Speaker 3 (45:36):
Well.

Speaker 1 (45:37):
And in Tennessee, a former employee of Jacksborough Police Department
named Joseph Weaver is facing some charges after stealing cans
of Vienna sausages to vandalize the home of Jimmy Snowgrass,
the city's vice mayor. At the mayor the vice mayor,

(45:59):
and it happened early this month. Jimmy says he woke
up around eleven pm to several loud thumps. He walked
around the house and found some broken windows. In various
cans of Vienna sausage just lying around his home. The
police investigation zeroed in on Joseph after they saw security
footage of him at Walmart buying the Vienna sausages the

(46:19):
day of the vandalism. Joseph for poortally admitted to the
crime and one point said, it's supposed to be funny,
and it sounds like he may have been drunk at
the time. So I started thinking, this definitely sounds like
an idea that comes after sitting back throwing back some beers, going,
you know what, it'd be funny if I went to
my local Walmart stole some Vienna sausages and threw it

(46:40):
in the vice mayor's house. And that's not clear of
really why he did it, but it sounds like he
may have been upset about having to resign his position,
and maybe the vice mayor had a roll in that,
and possibly guys, the choice of the teeny weenies was
not random and they were meant to references vice mayor's genitalia.

Speaker 4 (46:59):
Oh, I love those little teeny weenies.

Speaker 1 (47:01):
I know they're so good, they're so delicious.

Speaker 5 (47:03):
I know your timing on that endorsement was perfect. Bill, perfect,
you made great radio. I don't think you meant to
say it. It didn't.

Speaker 4 (47:13):
It didn't come out the way you meant it to.

Speaker 5 (47:16):
But then again, moving on.

Speaker 1 (47:20):
So Joseph was charged with vandalism and theft. So your home,
my beer and watched this. This week wasented by renalded
take an insurance group. A vice mayor's house was vandalized
with teeny weenies. And again, this is a story. This
is an idea that comes together after throwing back some beers, going,
you know what would be good? Got an idea, guys,
light bulb goes off. I don't know how much here?

(47:40):
How much vienna? Teeny whenis cost? I mean it can't
be much.

Speaker 5 (47:43):
Ask Bill, he loves them, Bill, how much did they
run for since?

Speaker 2 (47:49):
Maybe?

Speaker 3 (47:49):
No?

Speaker 5 (47:50):
Have you seen inflation lately? No, it's probably like a
dollar eighty eight. If they were eighty eight cents two
years ago, they're a dollar eighty eight today.

Speaker 4 (47:56):
Still a good deal? Oh my gosh, No, I.

Speaker 5 (48:03):
Don't even I know. I can't because we're on we're
on terrestial radio. We're governed by the FCC, and I'm
not really interested in losing the sponsor, so I can't
say what I'm really thinking Right now, I can tell
you I'm enjoying this she beer. Thank you very much
for bringing it and for if whatever beer makes you
want to steal Vienna sausages. I just don't know what

(48:23):
makes you want to steal Vienna sausages.

Speaker 1 (48:26):
I mean, well, my my thinking is like if I
was a vice vice mayor, I'm thinking of myself. Hey,
I like tenyueze. All right, cool, I got some lunch
for the next couple of days. It's not like he
opened them and started pouring it out everywhere. Now you
just threw the whole cans in that window. I mean,
I have to pick clean up a window. But he's
a vice mayor. You can probably get that done. He
probably knows somebody who can do that.

Speaker 5 (48:45):
He knows a guy.

Speaker 1 (48:45):
Yeah, he knows a guy. But yeah, there you go.
He's got himself some Vienna sausages thanks to this, uh,
crazy out of job former law enforcement officer.

Speaker 5 (48:56):
So there you you ring all the ten hey responsor
during this segment.

Speaker 1 (49:01):
And we gotta take a break. Let's talk about coming
up the mount Rushmore of craft breweries. This is what's
on tap radio. You hang with us, we'll be right back.

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All right, let's do it. Let's do it now. Let's
set up our Mount Rushmore of craft breweries. Now, a
few weeks ago we talked out the Mount Rushmore of
Kraft Beers. Boy did we get a lot of people
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(50:10):
our social and uh, What's on tap Rato at gmail
dot com. We're now we're gonna get into the Mount
Rushmore craft breweries. So what are the craft breweries that
change the way we think about beer? You know, they
ushered in the air the new era of how we
drink beer, and that we continue to innovate and change

(50:31):
the industry at large. And so I'm gonna put this
to Bill. I'm gonna put this to Chad, and you
guys at home, learn what are your mount rushmore of
craft breweries? And remember there can only be four. And
that's the hardest part about this whole thing is because
there's so many, so many that pay the way, but

(50:52):
you can only put four on this mount rushmore of
craft beers or craft breweries. Excuse me?

Speaker 5 (50:57):
All right, so you know, uh, we we have listeners
out there. It's like, all right, you did I P
A s I when you get when when you're gonna
do stouts? We're gonna do it.

Speaker 1 (51:07):
But I mean, I don't want to do it every
show because then people.

Speaker 5 (51:09):
No, no, no, no, I know it. But we skipped over
the stouts. We said we would do stouts. We skipped over.
We went right to breweries. Well, we'll do stouts. I
know we will. But there are people who like, yeah,
of course you did I p A's first, the biggest category.

Speaker 1 (51:24):
Of course, we did that one first. What do you
think we're gonna do culshs?

Speaker 5 (51:27):
First? Come on, We've We've only opened one I P
A on the show today, And the only reason we
did it is because of marketing. I didn't even know
what it was. It was a hazy fourth of July
kittens from fat Orange, Uh, Bill and I here we're
drinking the uh Chem sink since which is the Belgian triple.

Speaker 4 (51:46):
That's really good?

Speaker 5 (51:47):
No idea? What the ages on it? It's got some,
it does have it's it does have some age. You
can taste it. But there is not a dang thing
wrong with it. It's it is very very It drinks
almost more like a Belgian blonde or Belgian strong or
Belgian golden. There we go. That's what I was looking for,

(52:08):
Belgian golden, almost like a duval. Ye.

Speaker 4 (52:13):
It's almost right at the perfect alcohol content for type
of beard is.

Speaker 5 (52:19):
It's beautiful. Yeah, And James is still over there nursing that.

Speaker 1 (52:22):
If you're just joining us, you missed the first hour.
I cracked open and he brought to the table segment
thanks to our friends over the back of grill the
Sierra Nevada barreled age narwhale Imperial style at eleven point
nine percent. And uh still got a little bit left here,
Chad and Bill still got a little bit left here.

Speaker 5 (52:42):
You're doing all right on that there cheap.

Speaker 1 (52:44):
About an hour and a half into the show.

Speaker 5 (52:46):
So I know what it is. I know what it
is you had some dry bakers yeast and yogurt, and
that's how you're able to get through the whole thing.

Speaker 1 (52:55):
Well, that means I'm downing water as well, because I
can't take that about it.

Speaker 4 (53:00):
Third of it's on the floor and is in the studio.

Speaker 1 (53:02):
My studio desinal like a barreld Age stout in here,
because you know, maybe out as a as pouring into
my glass.

Speaker 5 (53:10):
I'm wondering now if maybe, given the current state of
your studio, you may your studio may be a much
more popular location. I mean, let's let's face it, you're
not doing dry January anymore.

Speaker 1 (53:23):
No, I mean a few months away from that, right, So.

Speaker 5 (53:26):
There's no more n a beers in your fridge. I'm assuming.

Speaker 1 (53:30):
I don't know. Maybe I don't, I don't know.

Speaker 5 (53:32):
I'm good. I mean, it's only no idea. What's there
Only September, so, you know, or almost September, so I drawer. Oh, yes,
where good beer goes to die, all right, and non
alcoholic beer too.

Speaker 2 (53:47):
Oh?

Speaker 5 (53:47):
Shot fired, shot fire, all right? Anyway, don't worry that
bubble is gonna burst. I'm still sticking by that. By
the way, I'm taking a beating on.

Speaker 1 (53:54):
That I'm just watching this beating go down.

Speaker 5 (54:00):
Dad, you have no idea what you're talking about. Non
alcoholic beer is not going anywhere. I'm like, okay, all right,
I didn't say I didn't say it was gonna go away.
I said the bubbles gonna pop. But anyway, as I
was saying, James, maybe your studio might be a new
top like craft Beer Destination, and we have another list
comes to us. Do we plug this? Do we plug

(54:21):
the site?

Speaker 3 (54:22):
No?

Speaker 1 (54:22):
They're not small?

Speaker 5 (54:23):
Okay, all right, there's a website out there that did
top US cities for beer enthusiasts in the year twenty
twenty four, the year we're currently in, So why not?
And I take some issue with this? Oh wait, it's
just updated number one craft Beer Destination Studio s Katie Texas.
That's right. You can get beer spilled on you. You can

(54:44):
get anything. If he runs out of beer, you can
squeeze it out of the rug. All right, anyway, all right,
James is like, enough making fun of.

Speaker 1 (54:52):
My No, I'm still cleaning up the mess.

Speaker 5 (54:54):
I know you are.

Speaker 1 (54:55):
I'm wading in between break my socks are wet.

Speaker 5 (54:59):
Yeah, truth to it's pretty funny, all right, Anyway, this
ranking came out and it ranked the top beer destinations
for beer enthusiasts. So, hey, Larry, go ahead, and there's
a name drop for our buddy Larry who does his
annual pilgrimage. Maybe one of these cities is in your future.

(55:19):
Found interesting. Number fifteen on the list is Austin, Texas.
So I wanted to give pay homage to our friends
out there in the.

Speaker 1 (55:26):
Tech beer beer scene. Great beer town.

Speaker 5 (55:28):
It is a great beer town, so I'm not knocking
them for being on the list. I do take some
issue though, with how the list was generated, but we'll
talk about that in a minute. Going on down from
fifteen to one goes from Austin to Saint Louis, Rochester,
New York, Harrisburg, Pennsylvania, Denver, Colorado. I was a little
surprised to see Denver come in and only like number ten.
Then Portland, Oregon. Okay, all right, Portland was a hot

(55:52):
beer scene for a long long time. Number one for
a real long time. Not sure how I feel about
that ranking, but then again, I've never been there. New Orleans, Cincinnati.

Speaker 1 (56:02):
Pittsburgh, really New Orleans.

Speaker 5 (56:06):
When you hear what I have to tell you, what
the criteria is, you'll understand, okay, okay, Lancaster, Pennsylvania, Top five, Greenville,
South Carolina, Number four, Portland, Maine. Portland, Maine beats out Portland, Oregon.

Speaker 1 (56:18):
I could see, well, Portland, Maine's got a popping beer
scenea though, But yeah, I see that argument.

Speaker 5 (56:23):
I know Las Vegas, Nevada, beats out all those others. Pensacola,
Florida beats out all those and no surprise, quite frankly,
with the city with the most breweries per capita and
number one on the list Asheville, North Carolina. Would you
like to know the criteria?

Speaker 1 (56:41):
I do because I look, I love New Orleans. I
go there every year. My family's from there. But I
don't think of New Orleans as a craft beer city. Now.
Don't get they're great craft breweries in New Orleans, but
to me, I don't think of New Orleans being that
craft beer destination.

Speaker 4 (56:57):
I agree, But two or three of those in the
top five I can't see. But what other criteria here?

Speaker 5 (57:04):
It is? These are sites ranking those US cities as
top beer best beer destinations. So, in other words, how
those cities rank on other people's sites, the number of
bars they.

Speaker 1 (57:16):
Have the number there's New Orleans, all right.

Speaker 5 (57:19):
Right exactly, that throws it off. The number of breweries
they have, okay, well that makes sense, all right, the
average cost of a domestic beer, okay. And when they
say domestic beer, they're not talking about Boston Lager. They're
talking about.

Speaker 1 (57:36):
You're going down to the huge ass beers for you know,
a three dollars, four dollars whatever they cost.

Speaker 5 (57:44):
Right. And finally the final criteria the number of beer
tasting tours.

Speaker 1 (57:49):
Okay, well that's.

Speaker 5 (57:53):
I'm not sure that the number of beer tasting tours.
Like if you want to go get on one of
those bicycles and pub around, warrants you being higher on
the list than another city.

Speaker 4 (58:03):
That that's not a beer tour though. Beer tours at
a brewery, well, no, that's a brewery tour.

Speaker 5 (58:08):
A beer tour.

Speaker 1 (58:08):
We'll take you to pubs and stuff.

Speaker 5 (58:11):
They take these buses and they'll take you pub to
pub and yeah, and you can go drink and they're like, yeah,
go on the beer tour. We're gonna go have a
pint at all these different breweries or all these different bars,
and these third party groups who do it.

Speaker 1 (58:23):
Remember like ten years criteria.

Speaker 5 (58:24):
How good the breweries are, right, But it's the beer destination.
They're saying it's a beer destiny. And I'm not sure
that that's the best criteria to use. I think we
agree not the best criteria, but they're saying beer destination.

Speaker 1 (58:35):
Remember about ten years ago, they used to have all
these beer tours. You can you meet it a ber
oh yeah, and you hop on the bus and they
take it around like four different breweries. They don't have
those much anymore.

Speaker 5 (58:46):
I know, a pre pandemic. I bought tickets for six
of us to go and I don't know, it's like
two hundred fifty three hundred bucks or something like that.
And that company is gone.

Speaker 4 (58:58):
And yeah, they do beer and winery tours in West Michigan.

Speaker 5 (59:03):
We get stopped into the.

Speaker 1 (59:04):
Brewery for these. I remember Chad I hosted one. We
hosted a beer tour, didn't we Yeah we did. I
was on a bus and Chad was on a bus. Yeah.
That was a long time ago, man, Good times in
the history of this show. All right, well, hey, shout
out to New Orleans. I didn't know that was a
craft beer destination. But all right, there we go. Still
to come. We got to get into we're gonna reveal

(59:24):
our mount rushmore of craft breweries. We got to talk
about big beer exiting craft beer and what else are
we gonna get into? Oh, the Independent American Craft Beer
Hall of Fame is announced. All this is so much more.
Hang with us. We'll be right back.

Speaker 2 (59:39):
When someone says, hold my beer.

Speaker 3 (59:41):
You know a trip to the er is in your future,
So hold your own.

Speaker 2 (59:48):
Beer, buddy, and just listen to what's on tap? What's
on tamp radio?

Speaker 4 (01:00:08):
All right, everybody, welcome back on the bus. Thanks for
taking this little tour with us here.

Speaker 5 (01:00:12):
Well, what's on tap radio? I'm your tour guide, one
of your tour guides here, Beer Logic Chad Pilbeam. Over
there on the other bus, beer Guru himself, James Simpson,
and we were reminiscing about beer tours during the break
and I said, Hey, I'm gonna save something for radio.
I'm gonna see if James remembers this. All right, But

(01:00:35):
there was a time whenever, as James said, right before
we went to break, that we did a beer tour
down on Galveston Island where he was on one bus,
I was on another, and there was another good friend
of ours one John Denman.

Speaker 1 (01:00:48):
Oh, yeah, for him all day.

Speaker 5 (01:00:50):
Yeah yeah. John Denman was on another bus, a great
friend of the show, and he's done beer radio, beer podcasts,
and he's you know, he's just a he's a great
beer guy to hang out with, a lot of fun,
a big advocate for breweries and yeah, good people. Absolutely, Well,

(01:01:10):
he did something really nice for James. If I remember
the story correctly, we were Yeah, he's smiling now, James remembers.

Speaker 1 (01:01:17):
Now.

Speaker 5 (01:01:18):
So we're on Galveston Island and our buses kind of
all met up, and we were supposed to be staggered.
So one of us started at one brewery, one of
us started another, and another, and then every forty five
minutes we moved to the next brewery. Well, james buss
and John's bus ended up passing each other, and James
got his people out, and while he was out, they

(01:01:41):
were having a good time. John went and got a
gift for James. So he goes inside and and so
he goes inside probably like a seven to eleven or something,
you know, some convenience store, and buys a little cooler
and buys a bunch of beer and ice and puts
it on the bus and leaves it for him and
then tells the bus were like, hey, you know, this
is what this guy did here and James like, oh wow,

(01:02:04):
this is awesome. So they come back, well he doesn't know.
He comes back on the bus with all of his Hey, guys,
we got a cooler full of beer. Man, let's go.
And so it's all dark on the bus and you
can't really see. So he starts handing out beers like.

Speaker 1 (01:02:18):
Whoa, whoa.

Speaker 5 (01:02:19):
Everybody's having a good time and they're like, oh my gosh,
we're gonna get so crazy. This is gonna be nuts.
And then James starts it's like, I wonder what he
bought us, And he looks down and it's a whole
cooler full of non alcoholic beer.

Speaker 1 (01:02:30):
It was Bush inn A, you're half Bush, You're half right.
So he did put a cooler of inn A beers
on the bottom, but on the top there were like
two craft.

Speaker 5 (01:02:42):
Beers like regular beers. To make it look good.

Speaker 1 (01:02:44):
Make it look good. So you know, I'm handing it out.
So I see I think it was like real als
Fireman's four or whatever it was. But now I'm like
handing it out. And then I started handing out to
There were probably thirty people on the bus, and then
people are looking at me like what the what.

Speaker 4 (01:03:00):
Give us not a long beer?

Speaker 5 (01:03:01):
We wanted to party.

Speaker 1 (01:03:02):
And what was funny is people were streaking it.

Speaker 4 (01:03:06):
They were like, I don't care whatever.

Speaker 1 (01:03:08):
Yeah that was And so we get back to the
hotel that we were picked up at and John was like,
how was that beer? I'm like, that was you. I
had no idea it was Deadman that did it?

Speaker 5 (01:03:19):
Oh, you didn't know it was that.

Speaker 1 (01:03:20):
I didn't know until we got back to the hotel
and we're all hanging out the hotel bar and he goes, hey,
how'd you like that beer? And I'm like, that was you?
And everyone's busting out laught. Apparently there were a lot
of people in on it, and so I was like,
well played, Deadman.

Speaker 4 (01:03:33):
Well play. Everybody comes in.

Speaker 5 (01:03:36):
Man, I can't believe what we drank on that bus.
It was non alcoholic beer, right.

Speaker 1 (01:03:40):
What was funny is, yeah, people were just drinking it.
You know. They were like, I'm already opened it, Well
I might as well just drink it.

Speaker 5 (01:03:46):
What we do now, It's not like I'm gonna pour
it out the window.

Speaker 1 (01:03:48):
Yeah, So there's a you know, maybe it was like
they were just quitching their thirst at that point.

Speaker 5 (01:03:53):
But he probably stopped at some convenience store and just
you know, picked it all up. But he spent some money,
but it was good.

Speaker 1 (01:03:59):
So yes, we've got convenience stores. Let me dive into
the story real quick. Seven eleven, seven eleven. Man, who
doesn't like a good seven eleven slurpy slurpies? Yeah, a
lot of sugar, big gulp. But listen to this in Canada,
our friends to the north, starting in early September, having
a beer with your mates as soon as be close
at your nearest seven eleven? Who thought of this? Like,

(01:04:20):
let's go to seven eleven, get some taketos, pick up
a six pack of beer, purchase it, and then plopped
down in the convenience store, you know they have some
tables and eat the daiketos and crack open a beer
right there in the store.

Speaker 5 (01:04:35):
How about that? Want to go to the bar? No,
you want to go to the brewery? No, you want
to go to seven eleven?

Speaker 4 (01:04:39):
Yes?

Speaker 1 (01:04:40):
Yes, how about that date night?

Speaker 7 (01:04:42):
Right?

Speaker 1 (01:04:42):
You're taking me where? Oh, don't worry, trust me. Great teketos,
great teketos, but apparently this is happening in Canada and Ontario.
It's already a thing in Alberta Province that boasts nineteen
licensed seven elevens. Many Ontario stores allow customers to purchase
a range of delivery or sealed alcohol as of September fifth,
store consumption coming soon after, and once the program starts

(01:05:03):
September fifth, a selection of beer, wine, and all ready
to drink coolers will be available for purchase, and once
that rolled out, customers will be able to consume store
purchase alcohol at tables and chairs in the store alongside
the chains regular menu of prepared food, including chicken wings
and pizza, hot dogs, tiketos, and some sandwiches. How about
that going over your local seven to eleven, picking up

(01:05:25):
some pizza that's been sitting under the heat lamp for
twelve hours.

Speaker 5 (01:05:31):
One of those hot dogs on a roller yesterday, and.

Speaker 1 (01:05:35):
Get yourself some the bat blue or whatever it is
they're drinking up there in Canada and Canada. Imagine that
that's where we are. Man's that's going to your local
convenience store. And because it's against the law to consume alcohol,
you purchase alcohol.

Speaker 5 (01:05:54):
So if you go to buying beer to go, buying
beer to go go back like you can't.

Speaker 1 (01:05:57):
You can't go to a craft berry where they sell
beer to go and buy six pack and then open
it up at the brewery. No, that's against the law.
You have to actually leave it.

Speaker 5 (01:06:04):
It's a weird. It's a weird thing because you can
buy a six pack and a pint and you can
drink the pint, but you can't drink a twelve ounce can.

Speaker 1 (01:06:10):
No, because that is just well that you know. The
reason why is because people buy a six pack of
beer and just start downing it and get you know, plastered,
and then end up at a hole my beer and
watch this.

Speaker 5 (01:06:21):
Right, beer to goes, beer to go. There's a reason
called beer to go.

Speaker 1 (01:06:25):
So there you go. You will be able to enjoy
a beer with your seven eleven tiketo coming. This is Ontario, Canada.

Speaker 5 (01:06:31):
I know what this is. This is this is Canada's
answer for not having a waffle house.

Speaker 1 (01:06:38):
This is wait. I'm today years old when I learned
that they don't have a waffle house in Canada.

Speaker 5 (01:06:43):
I don't think they have a I don't think they
have a waffle house north of the Mason Dixon line.

Speaker 1 (01:06:47):
Many apocalypse.

Speaker 5 (01:06:50):
We don't know. We don't have a waffle house in Michigan.

Speaker 1 (01:06:53):
How do y'all know that the world's not ending?

Speaker 5 (01:06:55):
Well, trust me. I that was not a selling point
for moving back to Chen. I was like, wait a minute,
I'm drawing the line here.

Speaker 1 (01:07:03):
You know, I don't need a waffle house a lot,
but I know, damn well, if I drive by one,
it's closed. I'm going straight at home and I'm packing
and we're getting the hell out of town.

Speaker 5 (01:07:10):
That's right.

Speaker 4 (01:07:11):
Run runs.

Speaker 1 (01:07:12):
I don't know. I don't know why I'm running, but
we're going.

Speaker 5 (01:07:16):
But what's wrong? Hone? Either it's now a cloud in
the sky. The waffle house is closed. Well, what does
that mean?

Speaker 4 (01:07:21):
They never close?

Speaker 1 (01:07:23):
There's no eas going off. Just back it up. Because
the waffle house was closed.

Speaker 5 (01:07:31):
Ladies and gentlemen, there may be another emergency. This emergency
broadcast brought to you by What's on Tap Radio. Attention,
ladies and gentlemen, please do not panic. But big beer
and big breweries are now exiting the craft beer industry.
And you're gonna be like, wait a minute, we already
heard yeah, we already heard this story, right Anheuser Bush, Yeah,
ABMBEV divested from eight craft breweries recently. We're like, yeah,

(01:07:57):
we've heard this. Well, following suit, most cores exit stage left.

Speaker 1 (01:08:02):
Please.

Speaker 5 (01:08:03):
They are exiting the craft beer industry, divesting its four
craft beer brands and shutting down their very own craft
beer label. And this is just another indication of what
that some of that whiplashes about the decline in craft
beer sales. Now, don't panic, folks, just because big beer

(01:08:24):
is getting out of craft beer. You shouldn't be saying.

Speaker 4 (01:08:27):
Oh, I saw this coming.

Speaker 5 (01:08:29):
Yep, the bubble's gonna burst.

Speaker 4 (01:08:31):
Yep.

Speaker 5 (01:08:31):
We're craft beer is the thing in the past. It's
not cool anymore. Listen, when Big Beer got into Kraft Beer,
you all were pissed off. You are like, I can't
believe we're letting this happen. We gotta stop this. Well
they're leaving. Now.

Speaker 4 (01:08:45):
Are you happy because I am?

Speaker 5 (01:08:47):
You know why?

Speaker 7 (01:08:48):
No?

Speaker 5 (01:08:48):
I actually I don't know why. I'm not really happy.
I'm happy that you're upset. Okay, there you go. Don't
freak out at chap Pillby by the way, Yeah, that's right,
don't worry about it. It's just fine. Mulsen Coors announcing
that that they're selling their brands including Hop Valley and Oregon,
Terrapin in Georgia.

Speaker 1 (01:09:06):
I thought Terrapin for sure, that's good stuff though, Revolver
in Texas, and at Water in Michigan.

Speaker 5 (01:09:15):
They're selling it to Tilray, a Canadian company with interest
in Oh yeah, we stand in Canada. Yeah, ready for
this in cannabis. Yeah. Another another company that is in
the cannabis industry in Canada making this purchase. I think
we've seen other cannabis Canadian companies making purchases. Deals of

(01:09:36):
the or terms of the deal were not disclosed. How
much to end for those four brands. I'm just gonna
let's go. Let's go six seven, six hundred, five hundred
and fifty eight point four million.

Speaker 1 (01:09:53):
Wow.

Speaker 5 (01:09:55):
Yeah, a lot, That's what I'm going with.

Speaker 1 (01:09:56):
That's a lot of money.

Speaker 5 (01:09:57):
Yeah, but I could be off because I don't know,
because they weren't disclosed almost of course. Chief commercial Officer
Michelle Saint Jean said the move allows them to focus
on their premium national brands such as Blue Moon and
Lightning gole yeah. Also oh also non alcoholic beer. Yeah,
that bubble is gonna burst. Yeah. Hey, Michelle Saint Jacques,

(01:10:21):
you obviously aren't listening to the.

Speaker 1 (01:10:22):
Show that's at chat Hillbeam.

Speaker 5 (01:10:25):
All right, so now you know what's going on in
the world of beer. Don't panic, folks. You were upset
when big beer got into the craft beer game. They're leaving.

Speaker 4 (01:10:32):
We should all be happy.

Speaker 1 (01:10:34):
Yeah, it's interesting to see these cannabis companies buying up
these craft breweries. We've seen it and it's gonna continue
to happen to trend. All right, we gotta take a break.
Coming up in the last segment, we will reveal our
Mount Rushmore of craft breweries and we'll talk about the
independent American craft Beer Hall announced. I like that story. Oh,
this is so much more. Hang with us for one more.
We'll ride back.

Speaker 3 (01:10:53):
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Speaker 2 (01:11:01):
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Speaker 1 (01:12:04):
I drink responsibly. I'm still slipping on this eleven point
nine percent Sierra Nevada, Imperial Age, Narwell.

Speaker 5 (01:12:11):
Stout right well, Harbor Light Bill, and I here just
cracked open a beer. You may remember a few episodes ago,
I tried to drink from Triple Root Brewery and Zeeland, Michigan,
an entire twenty two ounce bomber bottle of fifteen percent. Yeah,
I tried to do that. I didn't make it. We
didn't make it. I couldn't drink at all, but Bill,

(01:12:33):
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percent twelve ounce can of the Triple Root, Triple stout
age and bourbon barrels. So thank you Bill for bringing
this Triple Root Brewery and Zeland, Michigan not too far
from us. Go check it out. And I think, James,
if you some people would say it's irresponsible to do.

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But some people say, if you finished that beer and
I had finished the bomber of fifteen percent beer, maybe
that would put us in the drinking Hall of Fame
for our accomplishments. Well, it's be kind of a dubious
honor because there are real Hall of Famers out there.
And finally, there's a group of craft beer veterans and
experts from all across the country who are recognizing the

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American Craft Beer Hall of Famers or the ACBHF and
they are going to remember the memory of and recognize
those individuals whose efforts have elevated this fine beverage in
the industry which it serves. The American Craft Beer Hall
of Fame celebrates not beer itself, but the human hands, minds,
and passions of those who have made it what it

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is today. They want to celebrate the honor and the
tradition and the history of those people responsible for initiating, sustaining,
and promoting the American craft beer industry. So they want
to make sure that these memories live on. And if
you want to go visit the American craft Beer Hall
of Fame, all you got to do is go to www.

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Dot because it is not a brick and mortar location
at this time. They someday hope to be able to
have the financing to be able to put up a
geographical location brick and mortar there.

Speaker 1 (01:14:13):
You can Where would the brick and mortar be? What
city do you think of, speaking of the city's destination
craft beer destinations Chad discussed earlier in the show, where
do you think that would be?

Speaker 4 (01:14:24):
Alligan?

Speaker 5 (01:14:24):
Michigan. No, I'm just saying that because that's where I
want it to go, But.

Speaker 1 (01:14:32):
I would probably think it would be somewhere in Colorado.

Speaker 5 (01:14:34):
I was shocked that Grand Rapids didn't make that list,
But I think you're right Colorado. But you know Colorado,
and we're going to tackle this here in just a second.
Colorado might be where you put the mount Rushmore of
craft beer because they do have the mountains.

Speaker 1 (01:14:47):
Yeah, they do have the mountains.

Speaker 5 (01:14:49):
Yeah, so they don't get the mountains and the craft
Beer Hall of Fame. No, no, no, no. I mean,
if Cleveland gets the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame,
that's in Ohio. If Canton is in a o High on,
that's the football Hall of Fame. I think the Beer
Hall of Fame maybe goes to Cincinnati because that's a
good German beer town.

Speaker 1 (01:15:06):
Cooperstown where Baseball Hall of Fame is.

Speaker 5 (01:15:09):
Hey, what's it Cooperstown, Cooperstown, that's in New York.

Speaker 1 (01:15:12):
Yeah, where the Baseball Hall of Fame is.

Speaker 5 (01:15:15):
That's right. But the American Craft Beer Hall of Fame
is in incorporated five w' one C three organization, nonprofit
and maybe someday it'll be brick and mortar, but for.

Speaker 1 (01:15:24):
Now, cool like induction ceremonies when the people get inducted
to get like a what do they get a cool
jacket made a hops.

Speaker 5 (01:15:31):
I don't know. I don't know, but they are in
the process of developing this, so I'm sure this is
a developing story, and I'm the announcement very exciting. All right,
let's get over to the Mount Rushmore of craft breweries.

Speaker 1 (01:15:44):
James reset this, Yeah, the Mount Rushmore craft breweries. So
what are the craft breweries that change the way we
think about beer, that ushered in a new era of
how we drink beer and then continue to innovate and
change the industry at large. And so a website put
together they asked eight americas insightful beer voices of what

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their Mount Rushmore of craft breweries are. And I'll reveal
what they said here in a second, but not before
we just we asked Chad and Bill to reveal what
their Mount Rushmore of craft breweries. And the hardest part
about this whole thing is picking four. Picking four because
there's so many breweries that just changed the landscape that
narrowing it down to four was very difficult.

Speaker 5 (01:16:27):
Well, from Harbor Light Brewery, Harry Light, Bill, do you
want to name your four that make your four faces?

Speaker 4 (01:16:34):
Yeah? I had three that were very easy, Stone Brewing,
dogfish Head, three Floyds. I'm saying they did it. My
fourth one had to be a West Michigan beer because
that's where we live, and it's got to be something
that really made a difference in the beer industry. Sure,
I'm gonna say speciation.

Speaker 1 (01:16:54):
Okay, wow, because.

Speaker 4 (01:16:55):
They took they took wild fermentation, they took sours, they
took to a whole new level. I think it was
between that and Founders. But I gotta go, I gotta go.

Speaker 1 (01:17:05):
We'll repeat it, repeat it again, say it one more time.

Speaker 4 (01:17:08):
Stone Brewing, Dogfish Head, Dogfish Brewing, Three Floyds especiation.

Speaker 5 (01:17:14):
Think you're gonna get a lot of pushback on that
last one. I'm sure I will.

Speaker 4 (01:17:17):
But wow, I think they made a bigger difference than
than anybody else with their style of brewing.

Speaker 5 (01:17:25):
All right, Well, I mean this is Mount Rushmore, all right,
all right, it's Bill's Mount Rushmore. So all right, So James,
I'm gonna take a little crap on one of these.
I know I am, because I'm leaving a big one
off the list, all right. Ken Grossman, Sierra, Nevada. He's
that that's on the mountains.

Speaker 1 (01:17:43):
Count Rushmore of craft breweries. Chadpilliam, Siera, Nevada.

Speaker 5 (01:17:46):
Okay, yep, Boston Beer Company, Jim Cook. I'm sorry, even
if they're not craft anymore, doesn't matter.

Speaker 1 (01:17:52):
Uh.

Speaker 5 (01:17:53):
Same with this last one. People forget the impact that
New Belgian Brewery had Kim Jordan. She did some amazing things.
I mean, there's a reason that people drank fat tire
for so long, and that may really defined what Kraft
beer was. In this last one, I'm not gonna say Stone.
I'm leaving Stone off. I'm leaving Beer Jesus on the

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He's at the base of the mountain, and I'm going
with Fritz Maytag Anchor Brewing. Wow.

Speaker 1 (01:18:21):
Okay, yeah, very good list.

Speaker 4 (01:18:24):
That's a good call.

Speaker 1 (01:18:25):
Very good list. Okay, all right, let me reveal my
mount rushmore of Kraft breweries. And this is just our opinions. Look,
don't come outter us with because this is just our opinion.
You can give us yours by going to what's on
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But my are I have to agree with you. Chad,
Sierra Nevada. You have to put it on the list.
You have to put Sierra Nevada on the list. Uh,
Sierra Nevada, pale Ale. You have to put Samuel Adams
on this list as well.

Speaker 5 (01:19:00):
Boston Beer Company, Boston Beer company.

Speaker 1 (01:19:01):
Now here's where I'm gonna get the flak. Right, Oscar Blues.
I'm putting Oscar Blues on. I know why, but I
just the first to cancraft, the first that really to
put that pale ale out there, the hoppy pale ale.
I mean they forever.

Speaker 5 (01:19:17):
That to me, That to me is like taking Ben
Franklin off and putting Thomas Edison on because he invented
the first light bulb.

Speaker 1 (01:19:23):
Right, so all right, and the last on my list.
And this was so difficult for me. I cross it out,
put it back, cross it off, put it back, cross
it off, put it back, and just left it on.
I'm putting Russian River. I'm putting Russian riveriney pliny. I'm
putting Russian river, pliny yep.

Speaker 5 (01:19:40):
Okay, I do have I do have one more that
I I debated. I'm putting on the list, but I'm
gonna wait. Did you get one more list from a
good friend of ours?

Speaker 1 (01:19:48):
I did. Let me get Josh Lindsay Bear Expert.

Speaker 5 (01:19:51):
Well, he's our residence resident beer expert, Vance Sister own.

Speaker 1 (01:19:54):
He's got Sierra Nevada, Oscar Blues, Goose Island, Okay Stone Brewing.
He has Stone Brewing on there. Okay, yeah, but.

Speaker 5 (01:20:04):
All right, I did have one that I had to
leave off. Didn't have quite the impact, but it was
another one worth mentioning. Honorable mention Aligash.

Speaker 1 (01:20:14):
Yeah, Aligash was on this list of the ass eight
insightful beer voices. Russian River, Sierra, Nevada, Samuel Adams, Alagash,
Bells Anchor, Brooklyn Brewing, the Brewery dogfish.

Speaker 5 (01:20:26):
Head, Brooklyn. How do we forget Brooklyn?

Speaker 1 (01:20:28):
Yeah, main brew maybe coming new Glaris yingling Trogues. And
these are just a list of the amount Rushmore craft
breweries according to some beer experts and your friends here
at What's on Tap Radio? And that, my friends, is
this episode eleven years What's on Tap Radio? Still hanging
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Speaker 2 (01:21:18):
Good cheered