May 23, 2025 • 16 mins
We get a surprise update on his broken down boat, dig into 2025 Legislative 'wins and losses' and be sure to stick around to the end for SC Sen. Matt Leber's special Memorial Day message on a 'Big Fail Friday' edition of the show ... powered by Disaster Plus
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
You've heard of pds. Well, the Post and Courier has
LBS and that's liber derangements.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
And this is the Kelly Golden Show podcast powered by
Disaster Plus. On a big failed Friday.
Speaker 3 (00:15):
You got to be careful. What dos you join me
on a big field Friday. It's South Carolina Senator Matt Lieber.
How are you welcome in?
Speaker 1 (00:22):
I am great, Thanks for having me.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
Yet, so you make local headlines this week on our
paper with your stranded listless boat in the marsh. Let's
start with that because I'm looking at reaction from some
of your constituents and they say, well, who does this
guy think he is asking for a pay raise as
a lawmaker with three boats? First of all, do you
have three boats? I didn't realize that.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
I would think most people in the local country had
three boats. I mean one of the John boats. I
guess that counts of the boat. But I've had it
for thirty forty years. But this whole narrative about a
pay raise, it's not a pay raise. Is one line
item in the package that we're bringing back up to inflation.
It was created thirty five years ago. All we've done
(01:02):
is take that one item and moved it to twenty
twenty five inflation value, so there's no pay race there.
And the reason that a lot of us in the
Senate have decided to go for this now is the
fact that we try to recruit good blue collar folks
to come run and run for these positions and they
(01:23):
get excited and then you tell them what the pay
is and they say, we can't afford that. I cannot
do it. So I want more regular folks in the
Senate and in the House. And if we don't do
something very soon, the General Ssembly is just going to
be lawyers and independently wealthy people and retired because we
have the forty seventh lowest pay package for general simbly
(01:44):
members in the state. And so I thought with my colleagues,
this is a good way to get more of those
good people to stand up and run for office.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
Well, that's actually a great point, not discussed enough. I mean,
usually it costs money for you to run for any frankly,
less you're independently wealthy, as you said, then what, yeah, we.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
Don't really we don't want those guys making all the law.
And that's really what's happening. I mean, sixty percent of
the general simply members now are attorney's trial lawyers. My
personal opinion is is that we need more regular folks.
The shopkeeper can't shut down his shop that he's making
maybe you know, one hundred thousand dolls a year on
and go work in this job for the ten thousand,
(02:25):
four hundred dollars that they were paid. They just can't
afford it, can't do it. And so it's a one
sided package. And elite love it. They love it when
we fight over something like this, trying to raise one
line item up to today's dollars. They love it because
they know that if they are successful, then it will
only be them that are governing the state of South Carolina.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
So to put a cap on this. With regards to
the boat drama, speaking of one sided in that article
in the local paper, what came of that? I hear
Lemons to Lemonade. Frankly, it's going.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
To be I mean, you've heard of pds well the
post and care as lds, and that's librit derangements.
Speaker 3 (03:02):
Be wrong.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
They said in their own and they owned article that
there's hundreds and hundreds of these boats, but they only
hit one story on one boat. And I wonder why
you know it's a it was a political hit job.
I mean, we all know Hurricane Helena happened. There's a
loan backstory that we don't have time for that will
reason that my boat was in that area with a
friend taking care of it for me until session was
(03:25):
over the hurricane happened. My insurance company denied my claim.
We've made four attempts to remove it, but we the
companies that tried it said if I if we go further,
we're gonna break up the boat or we're gonna sink
the boat. Lord, I don't want that. So the boat's
not causing any harm. It's on a little island across
from a group of homes, so I get that it's
(03:47):
on stild. But we have a salvage company that's going
in to get it very shortly, and we're very much
looking forward to that. And we have a filmmaker that's
come in and he wants to document the whole thing,
going back all the way to restoration. And we're going
to be donating time to wounded veterans to sell home
in the sell boat very soon. And so this is
going to be eliminated in the end, and I'm thrilled
(04:08):
about it.
Speaker 3 (04:09):
Wow, a film crew willing to recover and restore and
cover all of that for you take that posting career.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
Yeah, and you know, the posting caurer knew that this
whole film thing. They've already done one episode on it.
The posting career knows what's happening. They know over under
contract where they know that it's going to be something
great in the end. They didn't care. They still did
that hit piece, but they got ild.
Speaker 3 (04:31):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
I mean, I'm the only really true conservative center and
that represents Charleston County in the low Country, and to
take a swipe at me like this is just part
of what they do. Taking a shot at my other boat,
which is a center in line console boat and which
all of us have, I think, you know most of us,
and it's just a normal boat. They called that a
luxury boat. I mean, it's just foolishness. And we all
(04:54):
know what the posting Curer is and they're useless to Republicans.
Republicans don't even read it unless we want to see
what the lo I think.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
So let's get into the wrap of the twenty twenty
five legislative session. I know you're going back on the
twenty eighth to pass the budget. But the bills have
been passed and some not so, so I want to
get in the wins and losses. You think, I'm curious
your perceived wins and losses because we had a trifecta
jeph controlled House, Senate and the governor's seat. So what
(05:20):
would you say on a big fail Friday, the losses
might be, well.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
You know, tour reform was very difficult. The positive that
came out of it is I think we have fixed
the liquor liability problem. Our BFWs can now stay open
because we lowered that one million dollar requirement down to
three hundred thousand for five to one seeds and all
these other BFW and other groups that fit under that category,
(05:45):
and they're going to be able to stay open and
they're going to be for their insurance.
Speaker 3 (05:49):
I put that in the wind category. Yeah, sure, American
legions and like you mentioned.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
Yeah, but it was a difficult bill to get through
because it handled a lot of of the torque issues
that South Carolinians face. You know, I don't know many
insurance companies that fight to you know, pay out their
coverage when when you have a problem. And then you
also have trial lawyers that are just taking advantage of
the system. So both of those groups are not fun
(06:15):
to actually have to deal with. I think we have
a fair bill that we might have to come back
to next year after we see out the rollout. Now
there's no real silver bullet, as you know, I'm trying
to get these insurance companies to come back and be fair.
But we got to create a market that's competitive, and
I think we've made a good start at that. So
we'll see. It's tough to go through a difficult bill
(06:37):
like that and know exactly what pussibly the unintended consequences
might be. But we're going to stay at it to
to the grind and we're going to figure it out.
I had a great bill that passed, the Sexual Predator
Act that keeps the most insane criminals of South Carolina,
keeps them behind bars, and you know, the Left was
trying hard to get those guys to be able to
(06:57):
get out earlier that passed. I worked with the Age
on that. You know, we had a we had a
great session.
Speaker 3 (07:05):
Well, and if we stay in the win column here,
I'd say Constitutional Carey certainly was a win. Also blocking
that Holy Anthony Fauci of South Carolina's appointment to lead
the House, you know in the Palmetto estate. That was
also a win.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
That was a huge personal victory for me because I
really let that fight. I questioned doctor Simmer for nearly
an hour in the hearings. I think I did. We
did well in that he didn't come out of committee.
There's no way to ever passed the Senate. I talked
to the Governor myself in the last week and explained
looked him in that and explain why it was personal
(07:41):
to me. You know, doctor Simmer not saying anything when
firemen and police were being fired in Charleston County because
they would not take the shot. But he was also
thrilled that four year old suddenly was able to be
emergency given the vaccine according to CDC. That was it
for me. There was no way I was going to
let this guy be in charge of our health when
(08:05):
the next totald twenty thirty halpens or something. He has
shown he cannot lead, and he's shown that he doesn't
have stockcoming values. And that was a great success for
me personally and for the Senate.
Speaker 3 (08:15):
I believe back to the losses on a Big Field
Friday edition the show. We need to abolish the state
income tax in South Carolina, like Florida and other states,
but we only got a slight decrease. Will we ever
see that?
Speaker 1 (08:27):
I'm with you? I like to personally. I have made
it very clear that I want to go to a
zero income tax program in South Carolina. I think we
can find different ways to collect the revenue that we need.
One of the first things we need to do is
find out the spending that we can cut. When you
cut a lot of spending and you have the surpluses
that we continue to have at shows that we are
(08:47):
collecting way too much tax. So I am not happy
with a paltry tax cut, if you will, But I'm
a Republican. I've never seen a tax cut that I
do not like. As you know, I always wanted to
put in the South Caroline bill for no tax on tips,
and the Federal Commerces past that a big beautiful bill
and that's got that in there, so that's going to
run in line with my state my bill on that.
(09:11):
So I want to cut it all the way to
zero and find a consumer tax, luxury tax, other ways.
To collect the necessary revenue, but we've got to cut
spending in South Carolina. It makes that much easier to
get through the General Assembly. That we need a zero
tax is that when we have such a surplus and
not so much spending.
Speaker 3 (09:31):
So Senator Matt Lieber, how about South Carolina Doge committee happening.
That's a win as well. What do you think about that?
Speaker 1 (09:38):
I think that our doge needs to focus on the
bureaucratic they We don't necessarily a deep state in South Caroline,
but we have a bureaucratic administrative state, and we have
too many boards and commissions. We have too many of
these unaccountable, unelected bureaucrats that are essentially governing because they're
setting policy, and these voters have no means to to
(10:00):
address them directly because they're sort of employees of the
state for the most part, volunteers center. But there's too
much of that. Our legislatures, senators and House members should
be held accountable for decisions that we make because we
have to face the voters, and if we make decisions
that aren't enjoyed by the voters, they can get rid
of us. But right now there's too many bureaucrats making
(10:22):
way too many decisions about go up.
Speaker 3 (10:24):
We're coming off of the twenty five legislative season here
just discussing wins and losses. And I really think that I,
along with many of your constituents, have been weighing in
on this over the session, believe you're on the wrong
side of the whole South Carolina Treasurer Curtis Loftis investigation situation.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
It's a complicated issue that I made it very clear
in the Senate with my colleagues that we should not
have been using Section three of the Constitution to sort
of try Curtis Lostice. It should have been an impeachment,
and I do believe the MP vote would have failed
because it's a higher standard. But Section three is such
(11:04):
a low standard. It basically says that if he doesn't
perform his job in certain ways. In fact, the thing
that got that made me cast a vote that did
was the fact that in the Constitution he must notify
the General Assembly if there are any auditing anomalies or
accounting anomalies. He failed to do that. He knew about
(11:26):
this going back a few years, and he didn't He
didn't inform the General Sental twenty twenty three, so that standard,
that Section three standard was met, unfortunately, and I made
it very clear that he should have been impeached, and
I would have voted no under the impeachment standard. I
was forced to vote yes under the Section three because
(11:47):
he met that qualification. But Section three should not be
for statewide elected people. That's more for bureaucrats, etcetera. So
it's a complicated thing, but I had to vote on
and most folks are being pretty political about this. I mean,
if AOC was our treasurer and I had voted yes
(12:09):
to convict, I don't think most people would be politically
passionate about it, to be very upset about it. So
I set aside the politics. I voted based on the
standard that was before me, even though I had registered
my protest about using that standard. I'm glad that the
House didn't tick to take it up. I believe that
the House would have taken up they would have had
(12:30):
to make the base of the same vote, and in
the Supreme Court would have slapped Oliver hands for even
using Section three because it wasn't warranted. It's not for
statewide elected And I told Curtis's office this myself. The
treasurer spoke to him about it, so he understands why
I voted the way I did. I like Curtis Loftice.
I think he's been a good treasure I think this
(12:51):
accounting thing is problematic. I don't blame him for the
accounting thing, but under our constitution he had to have
addressed it the generalist and leaning failed to do so.
Speaker 3 (13:01):
Sounds like he's going to get your vote as he's
running for re election again as state treasurer.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
Always have gotten my vote in the past, get my
vote in the future. It's just an unfortunate thing for soctroline.
I have to go through this one point eight the
accounting era that wasn't real money. That one point he
thought was real money. You know, I didn't want to
do the Section three. I've made it very very clear,
but under that standard, I had to vote with principle.
(13:27):
I could not disenfranchise my constituents that I represent by
not participating in the process and or not voting based
on the standard before me.
Speaker 3 (13:38):
To wrap this up, State Senator Matt Lieber, with your
military background, I want to provide you the opportunity ahead
of Memorial Monday for a message that you want to
send anyone. I certainly know. Over the weekend, I'll be
placing some flags on veterans' graves to remember not just
the sacrifice, but the love, you know, and duty encouraged
(13:58):
behind every name on every headstone.
Speaker 1 (14:02):
I can't believe you hit me with this. I mean,
I've got chills right now and the goose bumps and
all that. But you know, it's it's a big weekend
for me. Always. I usually do not watch TV or
listening to radio much or Internet during this because it's
it's very difficult. Friends that didn't make it home, you know,
from from other deployments, you know, but they always told
(14:23):
we always told one another. You know, if you do,
I want you to live the best life you can live,
hard and free and love America and I and I
tried to do that, and I love these beats. Every
man in my family will serve paratroopers for the most part.
We love America. I love South Carolina and I will
be just setting in events this weekend. And your dad
(14:46):
was a ranger paratrooper, so I feel that special affinity
with you in that regard. You know, from what day
can be taught and it's also time to recollect and
rethink about some of the principles and ideas that we
love their deer here and that we fight.
Speaker 3 (15:02):
For that people have lost their lives in uniform for
which is what Memorial Day is all about, reflection and remembrance.
And I often use it as an opportunity, as a
bit of a public service announcement to remind people of
that Veterans Day is a day for us to think
all who have served. Memorial Day is one to memorialize
those who never made it back home or out of
that uniform. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:23):
I always say it myself. You know, it's take a
moment to remember the men and women that served and
throughout the history of America. Un necessarily it is time off.
We love our low country and the sunshine and all that,
you know, it is meant to be the time that
we reflect and memoris you know, our national heroes that
have did what they did made all of this possible
(15:46):
that we can enjoy our freedom and live.
Speaker 3 (15:47):
Here that made the ultimate sacrifice.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
This Big Fail Friday edition of That Kelly Golden Show
podcast is powered by Disaster Fluxusini Bowl of seven between
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You've heard of pds. Well, the Post and Courier has
LBS and that's liber derangements.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
And this is the Kelly Golden Show podcast powered by
Disaster Plus. On a big failed Friday.
Speaker 3 (00:15):
You got to be careful. What dos you join me
on a big field Friday. It's South Carolina Senator Matt Lieber.
How are you welcome in?
Speaker 1 (00:22):
I am great, Thanks for having me.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
Yet, so you make local headlines this week on our
paper with your stranded listless boat in the marsh. Let's
start with that because I'm looking at reaction from some
of your constituents and they say, well, who does this
guy think he is asking for a pay raise as
a lawmaker with three boats? First of all, do you
have three boats? I didn't realize that.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
I would think most people in the local country had
three boats. I mean one of the John boats. I
guess that counts of the boat. But I've had it
for thirty forty years. But this whole narrative about a
pay raise, it's not a pay raise. Is one line
item in the package that we're bringing back up to inflation.
It was created thirty five years ago. All we've done
(01:02):
is take that one item and moved it to twenty
twenty five inflation value, so there's no pay race there.
And the reason that a lot of us in the
Senate have decided to go for this now is the
fact that we try to recruit good blue collar folks
to come run and run for these positions and they
(01:23):
get excited and then you tell them what the pay
is and they say, we can't afford that. I cannot
do it. So I want more regular folks in the
Senate and in the House. And if we don't do
something very soon, the General Ssembly is just going to
be lawyers and independently wealthy people and retired because we
have the forty seventh lowest pay package for general simbly
(01:44):
members in the state. And so I thought with my colleagues,
this is a good way to get more of those
good people to stand up and run for office.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
Well, that's actually a great point, not discussed enough. I mean,
usually it costs money for you to run for any frankly,
less you're independently wealthy, as you said, then what, yeah, we.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
Don't really we don't want those guys making all the law.
And that's really what's happening. I mean, sixty percent of
the general simply members now are attorney's trial lawyers. My
personal opinion is is that we need more regular folks.
The shopkeeper can't shut down his shop that he's making
maybe you know, one hundred thousand dolls a year on
and go work in this job for the ten thousand,
(02:25):
four hundred dollars that they were paid. They just can't
afford it, can't do it. And so it's a one
sided package. And elite love it. They love it when
we fight over something like this, trying to raise one
line item up to today's dollars. They love it because
they know that if they are successful, then it will
only be them that are governing the state of South Carolina.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
So to put a cap on this. With regards to
the boat drama, speaking of one sided in that article
in the local paper, what came of that? I hear
Lemons to Lemonade. Frankly, it's going.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
To be I mean, you've heard of pds well the
post and care as lds, and that's librit derangements.
Speaker 3 (03:02):
Be wrong.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
They said in their own and they owned article that
there's hundreds and hundreds of these boats, but they only
hit one story on one boat. And I wonder why
you know it's a it was a political hit job.
I mean, we all know Hurricane Helena happened. There's a
loan backstory that we don't have time for that will
reason that my boat was in that area with a
friend taking care of it for me until session was
(03:25):
over the hurricane happened. My insurance company denied my claim.
We've made four attempts to remove it, but we the
companies that tried it said if I if we go further,
we're gonna break up the boat or we're gonna sink
the boat. Lord, I don't want that. So the boat's
not causing any harm. It's on a little island across
from a group of homes, so I get that it's
(03:47):
on stild. But we have a salvage company that's going
in to get it very shortly, and we're very much
looking forward to that. And we have a filmmaker that's
come in and he wants to document the whole thing,
going back all the way to restoration. And we're going
to be donating time to wounded veterans to sell home
in the sell boat very soon. And so this is
going to be eliminated in the end, and I'm thrilled
(04:08):
about it.
Speaker 3 (04:09):
Wow, a film crew willing to recover and restore and
cover all of that for you take that posting career.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
Yeah, and you know, the posting caurer knew that this
whole film thing. They've already done one episode on it.
The posting career knows what's happening. They know over under
contract where they know that it's going to be something
great in the end. They didn't care. They still did
that hit piece, but they got ild.
Speaker 3 (04:31):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
I mean, I'm the only really true conservative center and
that represents Charleston County in the low Country, and to
take a swipe at me like this is just part
of what they do. Taking a shot at my other boat,
which is a center in line console boat and which
all of us have, I think, you know most of us,
and it's just a normal boat. They called that a
luxury boat. I mean, it's just foolishness. And we all
(04:54):
know what the posting Curer is and they're useless to Republicans.
Republicans don't even read it unless we want to see
what the lo I think.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
So let's get into the wrap of the twenty twenty
five legislative session. I know you're going back on the
twenty eighth to pass the budget. But the bills have
been passed and some not so, so I want to
get in the wins and losses. You think, I'm curious
your perceived wins and losses because we had a trifecta
jeph controlled House, Senate and the governor's seat. So what
(05:20):
would you say on a big fail Friday, the losses
might be, well.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
You know, tour reform was very difficult. The positive that
came out of it is I think we have fixed
the liquor liability problem. Our BFWs can now stay open
because we lowered that one million dollar requirement down to
three hundred thousand for five to one seeds and all
these other BFW and other groups that fit under that category,
(05:45):
and they're going to be able to stay open and
they're going to be for their insurance.
Speaker 3 (05:49):
I put that in the wind category. Yeah, sure, American
legions and like you mentioned.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
Yeah, but it was a difficult bill to get through
because it handled a lot of of the torque issues
that South Carolinians face. You know, I don't know many
insurance companies that fight to you know, pay out their
coverage when when you have a problem. And then you
also have trial lawyers that are just taking advantage of
the system. So both of those groups are not fun
(06:15):
to actually have to deal with. I think we have
a fair bill that we might have to come back
to next year after we see out the rollout. Now
there's no real silver bullet, as you know, I'm trying
to get these insurance companies to come back and be fair.
But we got to create a market that's competitive, and
I think we've made a good start at that. So
we'll see. It's tough to go through a difficult bill
(06:37):
like that and know exactly what pussibly the unintended consequences
might be. But we're going to stay at it to
to the grind and we're going to figure it out.
I had a great bill that passed, the Sexual Predator
Act that keeps the most insane criminals of South Carolina,
keeps them behind bars, and you know, the Left was
trying hard to get those guys to be able to
(06:57):
get out earlier that passed. I worked with the Age
on that. You know, we had a we had a
great session.
Speaker 3 (07:05):
Well, and if we stay in the win column here,
I'd say Constitutional Carey certainly was a win. Also blocking
that Holy Anthony Fauci of South Carolina's appointment to lead
the House, you know in the Palmetto estate. That was
also a win.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
That was a huge personal victory for me because I
really let that fight. I questioned doctor Simmer for nearly
an hour in the hearings. I think I did. We
did well in that he didn't come out of committee.
There's no way to ever passed the Senate. I talked
to the Governor myself in the last week and explained
looked him in that and explain why it was personal
(07:41):
to me. You know, doctor Simmer not saying anything when
firemen and police were being fired in Charleston County because
they would not take the shot. But he was also
thrilled that four year old suddenly was able to be
emergency given the vaccine according to CDC. That was it
for me. There was no way I was going to
let this guy be in charge of our health when
(08:05):
the next totald twenty thirty halpens or something. He has
shown he cannot lead, and he's shown that he doesn't
have stockcoming values. And that was a great success for
me personally and for the Senate.
Speaker 3 (08:15):
I believe back to the losses on a Big Field
Friday edition the show. We need to abolish the state
income tax in South Carolina, like Florida and other states,
but we only got a slight decrease. Will we ever
see that?
Speaker 1 (08:27):
I'm with you? I like to personally. I have made
it very clear that I want to go to a
zero income tax program in South Carolina. I think we
can find different ways to collect the revenue that we need.
One of the first things we need to do is
find out the spending that we can cut. When you
cut a lot of spending and you have the surpluses
that we continue to have at shows that we are
(08:47):
collecting way too much tax. So I am not happy
with a paltry tax cut, if you will, But I'm
a Republican. I've never seen a tax cut that I
do not like. As you know, I always wanted to
put in the South Caroline bill for no tax on tips,
and the Federal Commerces past that a big beautiful bill
and that's got that in there, so that's going to
run in line with my state my bill on that.
(09:11):
So I want to cut it all the way to
zero and find a consumer tax, luxury tax, other ways.
To collect the necessary revenue, but we've got to cut
spending in South Carolina. It makes that much easier to
get through the General Assembly. That we need a zero
tax is that when we have such a surplus and
not so much spending.
Speaker 3 (09:31):
So Senator Matt Lieber, how about South Carolina Doge committee happening.
That's a win as well. What do you think about that?
Speaker 1 (09:38):
I think that our doge needs to focus on the
bureaucratic they We don't necessarily a deep state in South Caroline,
but we have a bureaucratic administrative state, and we have
too many boards and commissions. We have too many of
these unaccountable, unelected bureaucrats that are essentially governing because they're
setting policy, and these voters have no means to to
(10:00):
address them directly because they're sort of employees of the
state for the most part, volunteers center. But there's too
much of that. Our legislatures, senators and House members should
be held accountable for decisions that we make because we
have to face the voters, and if we make decisions
that aren't enjoyed by the voters, they can get rid
of us. But right now there's too many bureaucrats making
(10:22):
way too many decisions about go up.
Speaker 3 (10:24):
We're coming off of the twenty five legislative season here
just discussing wins and losses. And I really think that I,
along with many of your constituents, have been weighing in
on this over the session, believe you're on the wrong
side of the whole South Carolina Treasurer Curtis Loftis investigation situation.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
It's a complicated issue that I made it very clear
in the Senate with my colleagues that we should not
have been using Section three of the Constitution to sort
of try Curtis Lostice. It should have been an impeachment,
and I do believe the MP vote would have failed
because it's a higher standard. But Section three is such
(11:04):
a low standard. It basically says that if he doesn't
perform his job in certain ways. In fact, the thing
that got that made me cast a vote that did
was the fact that in the Constitution he must notify
the General Assembly if there are any auditing anomalies or
accounting anomalies. He failed to do that. He knew about
(11:26):
this going back a few years, and he didn't He
didn't inform the General Sental twenty twenty three, so that standard,
that Section three standard was met, unfortunately, and I made
it very clear that he should have been impeached, and
I would have voted no under the impeachment standard. I
was forced to vote yes under the Section three because
(11:47):
he met that qualification. But Section three should not be
for statewide elected people. That's more for bureaucrats, etcetera. So
it's a complicated thing, but I had to vote on
and most folks are being pretty political about this. I mean,
if AOC was our treasurer and I had voted yes
(12:09):
to convict, I don't think most people would be politically
passionate about it, to be very upset about it. So
I set aside the politics. I voted based on the
standard that was before me, even though I had registered
my protest about using that standard. I'm glad that the
House didn't tick to take it up. I believe that
the House would have taken up they would have had
(12:30):
to make the base of the same vote, and in
the Supreme Court would have slapped Oliver hands for even
using Section three because it wasn't warranted. It's not for
statewide elected And I told Curtis's office this myself. The
treasurer spoke to him about it, so he understands why
I voted the way I did. I like Curtis Loftice.
I think he's been a good treasure I think this
(12:51):
accounting thing is problematic. I don't blame him for the
accounting thing, but under our constitution he had to have
addressed it the generalist and leaning failed to do so.
Speaker 3 (13:01):
Sounds like he's going to get your vote as he's
running for re election again as state treasurer.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
Always have gotten my vote in the past, get my
vote in the future. It's just an unfortunate thing for soctroline.
I have to go through this one point eight the
accounting era that wasn't real money. That one point he
thought was real money. You know, I didn't want to
do the Section three. I've made it very very clear,
but under that standard, I had to vote with principle.
(13:27):
I could not disenfranchise my constituents that I represent by
not participating in the process and or not voting based
on the standard before me.
Speaker 3 (13:38):
To wrap this up, State Senator Matt Lieber, with your
military background, I want to provide you the opportunity ahead
of Memorial Monday for a message that you want to
send anyone. I certainly know. Over the weekend, I'll be
placing some flags on veterans' graves to remember not just
the sacrifice, but the love, you know, and duty encouraged
(13:58):
behind every name on every headstone.
Speaker 1 (14:02):
I can't believe you hit me with this. I mean,
I've got chills right now and the goose bumps and
all that. But you know, it's it's a big weekend
for me. Always. I usually do not watch TV or
listening to radio much or Internet during this because it's
it's very difficult. Friends that didn't make it home, you know,
from from other deployments, you know, but they always told
(14:23):
we always told one another. You know, if you do,
I want you to live the best life you can live,
hard and free and love America and I and I
tried to do that, and I love these beats. Every
man in my family will serve paratroopers for the most part.
We love America. I love South Carolina and I will
be just setting in events this weekend. And your dad
(14:46):
was a ranger paratrooper, so I feel that special affinity
with you in that regard. You know, from what day
can be taught and it's also time to recollect and
rethink about some of the principles and ideas that we
love their deer here and that we fight.
Speaker 3 (15:02):
For that people have lost their lives in uniform for
which is what Memorial Day is all about, reflection and remembrance.
And I often use it as an opportunity, as a
bit of a public service announcement to remind people of
that Veterans Day is a day for us to think
all who have served. Memorial Day is one to memorialize
those who never made it back home or out of
that uniform. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:23):
I always say it myself. You know, it's take a
moment to remember the men and women that served and
throughout the history of America. Un necessarily it is time off.
We love our low country and the sunshine and all that,
you know, it is meant to be the time that
we reflect and memoris you know, our national heroes that
have did what they did made all of this possible
(15:46):
that we can enjoy our freedom and live.
Speaker 3 (15:47):
Here that made the ultimate sacrifice.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
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