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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Hey, it's Michael Blaze. Welcome to Your Home three sixty.
The show we talk about everything that has to do
with your home. It's brought to you by pool Works,
the Low Country's exclusive dealer of the Little Pool Line
of Pools. What is a little pool We'll go to
Mypoolworks dot com and find out, But I'll tell you this,
everybody I show it to says I want one of those,
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and I think you will too. Just a quick reminder,
if you want to listen to any past episodes of
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past episodes right there at your fingertips. On today's show,
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we'll talk to Heath bod Or if he's one of
the owners of pool Works, and we'll find out more
about the Little Pool Line of Pools.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
We'll also go.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
Over the numbers here the real estate market numbers for
the Charleston Tri County area. But first let's check your
real estate news. Vice President Kamala Harris is introducing a
campaign proposal seeking the construction of three million new housing
units during her first four years in office, along with
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a new tax incentive for builders that will create properties
for first time home buyers. She's also talked about offering
first time home buyers a twenty five thousand dollars credit
when they purchase their first home. She's also reportedly proposing
a forty billion dollar fund to help local governments find
new solutions to address housing inventory shortages, and she's pledged
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to take on corporate landlords in cap unfair rent increases.
All right, I have to editorialize a bit here. She's
going to get right to work making things worse. Yeah,
she's going to cap grocery store prices. She's going to
cap rents. She's going to be passing out all these
grants to builders and local governments to study the problems
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that ought to solve it. Just spend more tax money.
You think housing's expensive, now, just wait until some of
her policies go into effect. And you know what, It
would be great to give first time home buyers twenty
five thousand dollars in downpayment assistance. It would be great
to give that to everybody. Why don't we just give
it to everybody that ought to make housing more affordable, right,
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just give everybody a big old chunk of cash to
put towards their next home. That ought to solve the problem. No,
it'll make the problem worse. The housing affordability problem would
get worse with a twenty five thousand dollars first time
home buyers tax credit, with money going to builders to
encourage growth, hand it out money to local governments to
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figure out why they just don't have enough affordable housing,
because they really need another forty billion dollars to figure
out that problem. You know what. Back off on the zoning,
back off on the regulations, back off on the taxes,
and that will definitely help more than any of these
proposals would a huge one. And I know everybody's like,
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what do they call it?
Speaker 2 (03:04):
Nimby?
Speaker 1 (03:05):
Not in my backyard. But they're going to have to
change zoning and allow more density. If you want home
prices to start to go down or at least stabilize,
you're going to have to allow more houses to be
built on smaller plats of land. And think of how
regulation affects the cost of a home, everything from energy
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efficiency right down the line. So think about everything that
goes into your home and how it's regulated, and all
of these laws, how they make things more expensive. And
then think how you're taxed on everything down the line,
and then even on your home. I after you take
your hard earned money and try to purchase a home
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with it, don't forget to pay your property taxes. And
then the government will take that money and try to
figure out the problem with it. They'll do more grants
to themselves, and they'll pay for committees, and they'll pay
for all these studies, and they'll pay for this and
that to try to figure out all the problems. Now,
I'm for a basic amount of regulation, okay, because none
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of us just want, or I should say most of
us don't want a free for all out there. Right,
You have to have some kind of rules and regulations,
some kind of parameters to live within, to make things
better for everybody involved. But I would argue that it's
gotten totally out of hand, and we're seeing more and
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more and more how that's affecting a vast part of
the population negatively. So am I off the mark here?
Am I just talking through my You know what? Well,
home prices have become increasingly unaffordable over three quarters seventy
seven percent of American households are not able to afford
a median priced home. That's according to the National Association
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of home Builders. This is causing shrink flation in the
housing market, among other things. USA Today has an article
about shrink flation in the housing market. You know what
shrink flation is where the package gets smaller and the
price still goes up while it's affecting real estate. The
median house in the US is six percent smaller and
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fifty two percent more expensive per square foot than it
was five years ago. Seven of the ten metros that
shrunk the most are located in the South, with four
of them being in North Carolina alone. South Carolina did
not escape from the effects of shrink flation in housing.
In the last five years. The median house has shrunk
in size nine point four five percent in Colombia, seven
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point eight two percent in Augusta, five point four to
seven percent in Spartanburg, three point eight percent in Greenville,
and just about one and a half percent here in
the Charleston area. And the prices, well, they continue to
go up. So with higher prices in lower square footage.
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Guess what the price per square foot goes up on
the high end. The Naples Marcos Island metro area in
Florida saw the price per square foot jump from two
hundred and thirty eight dollars in twenty nineteen to four
hundred and forty seven dollars in twenty twenty four. That's
an eighty eight percent increase. Even in a dirty hole
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of a place like Flint, Michigan. And I'm not being
judge or nasty. I've been there. Take my word for it.
It is a dirty hole of a place. Even in Flint, Michigan,
the price per square foot has risen, but with the
lowest increase in price per square foot in the nation
at seventeen percent, So even on the low end of
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the scale, costs still rose in Flint, Michigan, from one
hundred eleven dollars a square foot in twenty nineteen to
one hundred and thirty dollars a square foot in twenty
twenty four. One hundred and thirty dollars a square foot
sounds like it's pretty reasonable compared to around here. So
if you're looking for a deal, you might want to
consider moving to Flint, Michigan. Just don't drink the water.
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We'll check our local numbers here in the Tri County
area in just a minute. But one more story. Two
days before the change is brought by the National Association
of Realtors settlement went into effect, a new startup rival
American real estate association known as the Area, has announced
the launch of a membership drive. Jason Haber, a New
York City based agent with Compass in Mauricio Yumansky, the
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Los Angeles based founder of the luxury brokerage The Agency.
You've seen them on Dancing with the Stars and on
the Houswive shows. They first announced their plans for Area
as an NAAR alternative back in January. Now they've released
a statement saying we've been busy behind the scenes these
last few months building the foundation for your new trade association.
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This is a letter two realtors. They pointed out that
at this point there's still self funded and they're asking
realtors to join their association. And it just shows you
how upset realtors are with the National Association of Realtors
for this settlement that essentially accused realtors of price fixing,
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of commission fixing when it's been negotiable the whole time,
and if you've bought or sold real estate recently, you
should have received a brochure which tells you exactly that
explains the different types of agency, and also tells you
that the fees are negotiable and how it all works.
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And if you didn't receive one of those, then you
were dealing with a I'll stop short of calling them dishonest,
but dealing with a realtor who's not doing what they're
supposed to be doing by giving you that brochure and
telling you how it all works. I've explained it on
past shows. I don't have time to dive in all
of that right now. But the new way that they
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want realtors to handle their commission structures, in other words,
sharing it with other agents and advertising that on the MLS,
that's all different now. And by the way, you can't
even share it on the MLS anymore. This is going
to cause nothing but trouble. I've said it before and
i'll say it again. It's going to cause dishonesty, it's
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going to cause more bad actors to act badly, and
it's not good for the consumer. We'll see if this
American Real Estate Association is any kind of alternative to
the NAR I think there's several people out there, several
realtors who are willing to find out at this point,
after getting thrown under the bus by the National Association
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of Realtors, this change is banned for buyers and it's
banned for sellers. I delve into all kinds of reasons
why on past episodes of the show, So go look
them up on podcast. You can download it free on
your iHeartRadio app or go to ninety four to three
WS dot com, go under podcasts and look for your
home through all right, I promise to the latest market numbers.
I'm going to blast through these real quick. This is
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Charleston County's single family detached homes. We're going to do
the month of July because that's the latest data available.
And this is comparing this July to last July. New
listings up thirty seven percent, close sales up twenty two
point three percent, the median sales price up eight point
nine percent. You know what the median sales price for
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the month of July and Charleston County is for a
single family detached home six hundred and ninety nine thousand dollars.
Townhouses in condos Charleston County year over year for the
month of July, new listings up twelve point six percent,
close sales up two point one percent, Median sales price
up five point two percent. Median sales price for the
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month of July four hundred and five grand for a
townhouse or a condo Berkeley County single family detached July
over July year over year this July compared to last July,
new listings down ten point eight percent, close sales down
six point two percent, median sales price up six point
seven percent. Median sales price for a single family detached
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home in Berkeley County in July four hundred and seven
thousand dollars. Town homes in condos new listings up sixty
eight point three percent, closed sales up forty eight point
two percent, and the median sales price up nine point
six percent. That's now at three hundred and twenty nine
thousand dollars for Berkeley County townhouses and condos month of July.
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Moving on to Dorchester County, this is year over year
this July compared to last July, single family detached homes
new listings up thirteen point seven percent, closed sales up
twenty five percent, Median sales price up one point nine percent.
Median sales price for a single family detached home in
Dorchester County during the month of July three hundred and
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ninety three thousand, five hundred and fifteen dollars. Dorchester County
townhouses in condos year over year for July, new listings
down twenty nine point eight percent, closed sales up thirteen percent,
the median sales price down six point seven percent to
two hundred and seventy two thousand, five hundred dollars. I'll
warn you to take the townhouse in condo numbers for
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Dorchester County with a grain of salt, because that was
only based on twenty six closed sales prices. They're still
going up. What can you do for relief? You can
go jump in a pool. I don't know if that'll
help you with home prices, but it will help you
to relax. In the studio with me is Heath Bodorf.
He's vice president of Pool Works. They're the low Country's
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exclusive dealer of the Little Pool line of pools here
in the low Country. Welcome Heath. Let's start by explaining
what a little pool is. A little pool is a
plunge pool, right.
Speaker 3 (12:47):
It is a plunge pool, but it's a free standing
plunch pool. So it's a fiberglass pool shell and then
surrounded with a exoskeleton of GRP, which is glass rein
first polymer, or some people call the glass reinforced plastic.
It doesn't rust, it doesn't rot, it doesn't get termite damage.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
It's pretty tough stuff.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
And just to set this up, so the fiberglass comes
from Australia, right, that's correct, and then you manufacture it,
put it together here in Ridgeville, right here in South Carolina.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
That is correct.
Speaker 3 (13:19):
It is shipped in containers nested together. The pool shells
are it's a standard fiberglass pool built for originally built
for end ground, been modified a little bit so that
it can accept our exoskeleton. And once they're brought in,
they come in nested together in a container. And then
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here in Ridgeville they take the pool shells and then
convert that over and add the GRP exoskeleton to make
it a free standing fiberglass pool.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
Now, the exoskeleton is an important component, if not the
most important component of the pool. That's what gives it
its strength, right, heath.
Speaker 3 (13:56):
Yeah, So the exoskeleton is what allows this pool to
be free standing. So it's a patented process of how
it's applied to the pool. And then once that pool
is built the exoskeleton, you can fill it full of water.
Net it allows that pools so that it can withstand
those forces of the you know, the water pushing outwards
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on that pool. So most fiberglass pools, if you were
to take a standard fiber glass pool and sit that
on the ground and fill it full water, the whole
sides would just literally buckle. They would they would push
out to an extent. And then if you know, take
somebody and have to do a cannon ball in it,
that force, that pressure that would be a for exerted
on that pool wall would literally bust the walls. So
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is what the little pool is. It's engineered and designed
to a point that it can withstand that.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
I think they're testing.
Speaker 3 (14:45):
One of their testing is they take a fifty five
gallon drum, raise it thirteen feet in the ear, and
then free to fill drop it into a water filled
pool and it's able to withstand that. So that's part
of their testing procedures. They have a lot of patented
trademarks on the actual process that I can't share, but
it's you know, it's it's pretty strong. It's it's durable
to last most people in entire lifetime.
Speaker 2 (15:07):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
And it's strong enough too. Where this is what impressed
me is you can attach a deck to it without
any supports for the deck right and strong enough to
support not only the water and people jumping in it,
but you can also if you want to put it
next to a deck, you can attach the deck base
right to it. Right.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (15:25):
So a lot of times, like if you were to
take a standard above ground pool or you know, the
old the round, you know, type of above ground pools,
and you wanted to deck run it, you would have
to put support columns right up.
Speaker 2 (15:35):
Next to the pool.
Speaker 3 (15:36):
Well, with this pool, you know, first of all, it's
not you know, it's not a tin can pool, but
it is an actual fire glass pool, and you can
attach what we call a whaling board around the perimeter
of it and then set your floor joists right on it,
so you don't need those support structures right up next
to the pool.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
The pool is the support structure, so it's.
Speaker 3 (15:54):
Kind of like cannilever in your deck off that so
you could go out eight ten, twelve feet before you
actually have to put your first post. Now, of course,
a lot of that's in your designs and everything, but yeah,
the pool was strong enough to withhold with stand the
entire deck load, all on all four sides at once,
and still be strong enough to hold that water.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
Yeah, that's awesome. And you know, and we had discussed
this before about you know, we're in the low country,
so groundwater level is pretty high here sometimes, you know,
I joke, it's like a you know, right at the
ground level, at the ground water. And so some people
with these fiberglass pools, if you don't keep them full,
they can pop right out of the ground. And not
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only that, but with flooding issues and everything else, sometimes
an in ground pool is just not practical. So the
little pool that you manufacturer is perfect for a situation
like that. And not only is it strong, it's pretty too.
Speaker 3 (16:49):
Right, without being over or zealous on this, I mean,
it's it's a swimming pool that is gorgeous. It's the
colors are beautiful, the warranty on it's astronomical. They've never
had a reported case of osmosis in their pools. Shells,
and so you know, they offer a twenty five year
warranty on that. And you know, typically in the fibreglass industry,
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you see, you know, had a bad name you know,
from the eighties in that where people were using the
wrong kind.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
Of resins and stuff.
Speaker 3 (17:19):
So you've seen a lot of osmosis on stuff on
pool shells and never has Compass, our manufacturer of our
poolshell they have never had a recorded case of osmosis.
So that's that's that's a big statement right there. And
just the pool itself is gorgeous. They've nailed the colors.
It's kind of a three D look to it. It's
a pretty pool and it's just like any other fiberglass pool.
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You can do what you want with it. You know,
you can put jets in it and put different lights
in it. You can do all kinds of things in it.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
Now. They're also light weight, so they're perfect for tight
spaces or spaces that are hard to get you know,
any kind of heavy equipment into that you would normally
use to dig an in ground pool and in a
lot of cases you can be swimming the same day
it's delivered. Right, So explain the installation process. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
So typically the pools are designed to sit.
Speaker 3 (18:05):
On a on a some type of flat surface, whether
that is concrete or pavers.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
There's engineer drawings for each of those.
Speaker 3 (18:15):
It tells you how thick the concrete needs to be
and how big the pavers need to be. In stuff,
but so whether you sink it in the ground, partially
fully or fully above ground, or raise it up on
a steel platform for like say and Ile Palms type
project where they wanted their pool up level with the
first story of the home, then you know there's there's
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that type of design.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
It's built into the pool.
Speaker 3 (18:37):
It's able to do all that and when you take
all the benefits of having this type of pool, it
really fits different installation in scenario. So one one might
be you know, one the pool is super light, it's
it's the biggest pool I think is rated around thirty
three hundred pounds. When you compare that to say a
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shipping container pool or a pre fab concrete pool, you
know those things weigh twenty twenty six thousand pounds depending
on what size you're getting fifteen thousand pounds, and you
take you might have to crane something over home or something.
Well for every pound, you've got to move a foot.
That costs money. So if it's a lot cheaper to
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take a three thousand and thirty three hundred pound pool,
lift it over a home, sit it in somebody's backyard
than it is a twenty five thousand pounds pool.
Speaker 2 (19:28):
So huge cost difference.
Speaker 3 (19:30):
There are huge cost savings in the actual shipping of
the pool. You know, less weight to ship down the road,
down the highway, but you know that's one way to
install it. You can install it with a crane. The
cool thing about the little pool is in some scenarios
it's actually easy enough to actually put casters under it
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and wheel it into somebody's backyard.
Speaker 2 (19:52):
It's that light as long as you.
Speaker 3 (19:53):
Have some way to lift it off the truck, whether
that's with a telehandler type of piece of equipment. Very
few people will probably familiar with that term, but a
brand name would be a lull A. It's a fork
truck that's kind of all terrained with an extendable boom
and then so that that can even lift it in
most of the times that it'll fit between people's homes,
and that's a very cost effective way of getting it
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in a backyard. If you have to lift it over
a fence or something like that. So the site work
getting into a little bit of the site work part
of it. The site work is you know, it can
be as minimal as putting some papers on the ground,
you know, ripping up some sawed a little bit, not
really digging into the ground and putting a paper base
down and putting the papers in, stamping them in place,
and then putting the pool on top of that. Or
it can be a little more intensive. You know, let's
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do a concrete pad because maybe we need to bring
it up to an existing deck level. Then at that
point you might want to bring it up you know,
save foot you know, then okay, so you want to
bring your concrete pad up level so that the top
of that pool is going to be even with the
existing deck that's already there, so that, you know, the
site work is minimal. When you consider pools, a tip
of wind ground pool, you know, there's a lot of
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dirt to move and a lot of dirt to haul
out of somebody's backyard, and this one here, you know,
it depended on this situation and it's not made for
every situation. You know, that's something that you know, it's
got to be taken into account when you're when you're
thinking about a little pool or any punch pool, you know,
is it going to fit the family of six?
Speaker 1 (21:20):
Right? You were telling me off the air, You're like,
you know, I just don't want this to be a
sales piece for the little pool. I want to be
informative and let people know what they are and let
people know that it might not be right for everyone.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
That's correct.
Speaker 3 (21:33):
So you know, if you look at you know, trends
in the pool industry, you know, years ago, everybody wanted
that free form pool that was big and you know,
it had an eight foot nine foot deep end. And
you know, since most people have gotten away from because
of mainly insurance reasons, have gotten away from putting diving
boards in pools. Today, you know, your average homeowner, they're
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not going to use that space out there that seven
eight foot deep unless they purposely got that pool to
swim laps. Nobody wants to go out there and tread water.
So the need to have that big deep pool in
it today is is really not there unless it's just
mindset from well that's what my parents had or that's
what my grandparents had, but nobody puts diving boards. They
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might put a slide here and there, but really that's
a thing of the past. And so when you think
about pools today and how the industry has evolved, you know,
you see people a lot more companies offering these plunge pools. Well,
let's let's explain what a plunge pool is. So a
plunge pool is a smaller pool. It's designed for, you know,
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coming home from work and relaxing. It's designed for entertaining
a few guests, having some you know, a glass of
wine or a cocktail or even a beer after work whatever,
getting in there, chill, let your stress take you, you
know that just wash that stress away from you, just
cooling down after mowing the lawn on a Saturday or something.
And that's what a plunch pool is, you know. It's
it's a pool to just sit in, relax, enjoy company
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of others, enjoy, you know, just taking that stress away
from the day of work. And that's what, you know,
I think, you know, that's what a plunch pool does.
It's I think when they originally started out, people were
calling them party pools. You know, it's it's not even
really a party pool. It's it's a something for you
to enjoy almost on a personal level, where you know,
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your typical big, you know pool. You know, you've got
a family of six. Is a plunch pool going to
work for that person?
Speaker 2 (23:32):
No, it's not.
Speaker 3 (23:32):
And uh, some people, you know, they got it. They
want that big pool. They want to be able to
swim laps in it, and not that plunch pools can't
offer some forms of exercise. You know, there's there's stuff
that that are made to to you know, you can
actually swim with and stuff. But and those options are
available even on the little pool. But you know, is
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it going to be the right pool for a family
that has maybe three or four kids and those kids
are going to grow up for the next ten years
in that home before they go off to college, and
they're going to have friends over and they're going to
want to play you know, volleyball, basketball.
Speaker 2 (24:05):
Stuff like that. Is it the right pool for that? No,
it's not.
Speaker 3 (24:07):
And so really educating the consumer about what works best
for them, I think that's more important than actually selling
the pool. I think, you know, if the industry, I
had a customer and it's a very well known person
in the area, he just bought a little pool from us,
and one of his comments was he said, your industry
is broken and that it took me a step back.
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But you know what's funny, I knew that the industry
has broken. The pool professionals don't have a good name.
I think currently in the state of South Carolina there
are three or four lawsuits against pool companies. That's bad press.
That's why is that what's going on in the industry.
So I think that's these are all questions people need
to talk to their their pool company about and you know,
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educate themselves. What what makes a good pool company a
good pool company?
Speaker 1 (24:55):
Sure, and you know, and what makes a pool a
good pool And what makes the installation process a good
installation process one that's not going to cause you headaches
down the road.
Speaker 3 (25:05):
That's correct, That's correct. You know, it's all about, you know,
making the right choice. And you know, if I got
to walk away from a job, even though I might
want that sale, if I got to walk away from
it because it doesn't fit that customer or it doesn't
fit that situation.
Speaker 2 (25:21):
Maybe they even believe that it fits them.
Speaker 3 (25:23):
But if it doesn't, and if I've you know, you
got to look at you know, consumers, not a pool professional.
They haven't installed fifty or one thousand or a hundred
or whatever that number is for each each different pool
builder out there. If if if you got to walk
away from it, you know you got to because that's
it's more about that consumer's happiness. You definitely don't want
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a consumer that you sold a pool tool just for
the pool sale and then next year them realized that, hey,
this wasn't really the greatest purchase for us. You know,
pool is a big investment. It's not a necessity. It
is a desire, it's a it's a it's a want,
and you know, you want that person to make the
right choice. And that's that's what we're about. That's what
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pool Works is about. That's why we, you know, have
the reputation we do have. You know, we're not afraid
to walk away from it if it's not the right
fit for that customer.
Speaker 1 (26:17):
Well, for those that are interested in learning more about
the little pool line of pools, what should they do?
Speaker 3 (26:23):
One they could call us. That's probably the best way.
It's eight four three six nine five eight three five five.
The other way is just go to our website and
you know, we have some contact of stuff. We don't
spam people, really, we don't you If you fill out
that form on our website, it stays in house. We
don't sell it. We don't do anything like that. We
just contact you know, if you're interested, We're not going
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to hound you. Or if you know, if you just
want general some knowledge, you know, we're we're here to
to help educate people. That's that's the important part.
Speaker 1 (26:51):
In the website's mypoolworks dot com. Mypoolworks dot com. Go
ahead and give the phone number one more time.
Speaker 2 (26:57):
It's eight four three six nine five eight three five five.
Speaker 1 (27:01):
Well, you're celebrating a birthday and you're having a spring promotion,
and right now for our listeners, you're offering them two
thousand dollars off their order, right.
Speaker 2 (27:09):
That is correct.
Speaker 3 (27:09):
So pool Works has been in business sixteen years as
of March, and we're extending that promotion into the end
of April. So yeah, take get your pool ordered and
we'll help you. And you can take two thousand dollars
off the cost of that pool, or you can add
it to some you know, something else that you want.
Maybe you want a heater or something like that. Definitely,
and you said, you can even you even have the equipment.
(27:31):
It escapes me what it's called, but you can even
there's all kinds of add ons and you can even
swim laps, right.
Speaker 2 (27:37):
That's correct.
Speaker 3 (27:38):
So we offer a super swim system. It's actually what
the University of Florida US is to train their swimmers.
So that's that, that's part of a package. And it's
very affordable. It's nothing like putting a you.
Speaker 2 (27:51):
Know, like a pool pool or something like that in
your back ey.
Speaker 3 (27:54):
It's this is very easy, very affordable, and it's it's great.
It provides resistance training and it's that's what really builds exercise.
Speaker 1 (28:02):
Well, that's excellent. Go to mypoolworks dot com or the
phone number one more time.
Speaker 2 (28:06):
Eight four three six nine five eight three fivey five.
Speaker 1 (28:09):
Heath Bodorf, vice president of pool Works, the Low Country's
exclusive dealer of the Little Pool line of pools. Thanks
for your time and thanks for the explanation today.
Speaker 2 (28:18):
Thank you, Michael, appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (28:19):
That's it for your home three sixty. Make sure you
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Hey, it's Michael Blaze. Welcome to Your Home three sixty.
The show we talk about everything that has to do
with your home. It's brought to you by pool Works,
the Low Country's exclusive dealer of the Little Pool Line
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(00:23):
and I think you will too. Just a quick reminder,
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(00:46):
we'll talk to Heath bod Or if he's one of
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about the Little Pool Line of Pools.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
We'll also go.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
Over the numbers here the real estate market numbers for
the Charleston Tri County area. But first let's check your
real estate news. Vice President Kamala Harris is introducing a
campaign proposal seeking the construction of three million new housing
units during her first four years in office, along with
(01:14):
a new tax incentive for builders that will create properties
for first time home buyers. She's also talked about offering
first time home buyers a twenty five thousand dollars credit
when they purchase their first home. She's also reportedly proposing
a forty billion dollar fund to help local governments find
new solutions to address housing inventory shortages, and she's pledged
(01:36):
to take on corporate landlords in cap unfair rent increases.
All right, I have to editorialize a bit here. She's
going to get right to work making things worse. Yeah,
she's going to cap grocery store prices. She's going to
cap rents. She's going to be passing out all these
grants to builders and local governments to study the problems
(01:57):
that ought to solve it. Just spend more tax money.
You think housing's expensive, now, just wait until some of
her policies go into effect. And you know what, It
would be great to give first time home buyers twenty
five thousand dollars in downpayment assistance. It would be great
to give that to everybody. Why don't we just give
it to everybody that ought to make housing more affordable, right,
(02:20):
just give everybody a big old chunk of cash to
put towards their next home. That ought to solve the problem. No,
it'll make the problem worse. The housing affordability problem would
get worse with a twenty five thousand dollars first time
home buyers tax credit, with money going to builders to
encourage growth, hand it out money to local governments to
(02:42):
figure out why they just don't have enough affordable housing,
because they really need another forty billion dollars to figure
out that problem. You know what. Back off on the zoning,
back off on the regulations, back off on the taxes,
and that will definitely help more than any of these
proposals would a huge one. And I know everybody's like,
(03:03):
what do they call it?
Speaker 2 (03:04):
Nimby?
Speaker 1 (03:05):
Not in my backyard. But they're going to have to
change zoning and allow more density. If you want home
prices to start to go down or at least stabilize,
you're going to have to allow more houses to be
built on smaller plats of land. And think of how
regulation affects the cost of a home, everything from energy
(03:29):
efficiency right down the line. So think about everything that
goes into your home and how it's regulated, and all
of these laws, how they make things more expensive. And
then think how you're taxed on everything down the line,
and then even on your home. I after you take
your hard earned money and try to purchase a home
(03:51):
with it, don't forget to pay your property taxes. And
then the government will take that money and try to
figure out the problem with it. They'll do more grants
to themselves, and they'll pay for committees, and they'll pay
for all these studies, and they'll pay for this and
that to try to figure out all the problems. Now,
I'm for a basic amount of regulation, okay, because none
(04:15):
of us just want, or I should say most of
us don't want a free for all out there. Right,
You have to have some kind of rules and regulations,
some kind of parameters to live within, to make things
better for everybody involved. But I would argue that it's
gotten totally out of hand, and we're seeing more and
(04:36):
more and more how that's affecting a vast part of
the population negatively. So am I off the mark here?
Am I just talking through my You know what? Well,
home prices have become increasingly unaffordable over three quarters seventy
seven percent of American households are not able to afford
a median priced home. That's according to the National Association
(04:58):
of home Builders. This is causing shrink flation in the
housing market, among other things. USA Today has an article
about shrink flation in the housing market. You know what
shrink flation is where the package gets smaller and the
price still goes up while it's affecting real estate. The
median house in the US is six percent smaller and
(05:20):
fifty two percent more expensive per square foot than it
was five years ago. Seven of the ten metros that
shrunk the most are located in the South, with four
of them being in North Carolina alone. South Carolina did
not escape from the effects of shrink flation in housing.
In the last five years. The median house has shrunk
in size nine point four five percent in Colombia, seven
(05:44):
point eight two percent in Augusta, five point four to
seven percent in Spartanburg, three point eight percent in Greenville,
and just about one and a half percent here in
the Charleston area. And the prices, well, they continue to
go up. So with higher prices in lower square footage.
(06:04):
Guess what the price per square foot goes up on
the high end. The Naples Marcos Island metro area in
Florida saw the price per square foot jump from two
hundred and thirty eight dollars in twenty nineteen to four
hundred and forty seven dollars in twenty twenty four. That's
an eighty eight percent increase. Even in a dirty hole
(06:26):
of a place like Flint, Michigan. And I'm not being
judge or nasty. I've been there. Take my word for it.
It is a dirty hole of a place. Even in Flint, Michigan,
the price per square foot has risen, but with the
lowest increase in price per square foot in the nation
at seventeen percent, So even on the low end of
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the scale, costs still rose in Flint, Michigan, from one
hundred eleven dollars a square foot in twenty nineteen to
one hundred and thirty dollars a square foot in twenty
twenty four. One hundred and thirty dollars a square foot
sounds like it's pretty reasonable compared to around here. So
if you're looking for a deal, you might want to
consider moving to Flint, Michigan. Just don't drink the water.
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We'll check our local numbers here in the Tri County
area in just a minute. But one more story. Two
days before the change is brought by the National Association
of Realtors settlement went into effect, a new startup rival
American real estate association known as the Area, has announced
the launch of a membership drive. Jason Haber, a New
York City based agent with Compass in Mauricio Yumansky, the
(07:32):
Los Angeles based founder of the luxury brokerage The Agency.
You've seen them on Dancing with the Stars and on
the Houswive shows. They first announced their plans for Area
as an NAAR alternative back in January. Now they've released
a statement saying we've been busy behind the scenes these
last few months building the foundation for your new trade association.
(07:55):
This is a letter two realtors. They pointed out that
at this point there's still self funded and they're asking
realtors to join their association. And it just shows you
how upset realtors are with the National Association of Realtors
for this settlement that essentially accused realtors of price fixing,
(08:16):
of commission fixing when it's been negotiable the whole time,
and if you've bought or sold real estate recently, you
should have received a brochure which tells you exactly that
explains the different types of agency, and also tells you
that the fees are negotiable and how it all works.
(08:37):
And if you didn't receive one of those, then you
were dealing with a I'll stop short of calling them dishonest,
but dealing with a realtor who's not doing what they're
supposed to be doing by giving you that brochure and
telling you how it all works. I've explained it on
past shows. I don't have time to dive in all
of that right now. But the new way that they
(09:00):
want realtors to handle their commission structures, in other words,
sharing it with other agents and advertising that on the MLS,
that's all different now. And by the way, you can't
even share it on the MLS anymore. This is going
to cause nothing but trouble. I've said it before and
i'll say it again. It's going to cause dishonesty, it's
(09:20):
going to cause more bad actors to act badly, and
it's not good for the consumer. We'll see if this
American Real Estate Association is any kind of alternative to
the NAR I think there's several people out there, several
realtors who are willing to find out at this point,
after getting thrown under the bus by the National Association
(09:42):
of Realtors, this change is banned for buyers and it's
banned for sellers. I delve into all kinds of reasons
why on past episodes of the show, So go look
them up on podcast. You can download it free on
your iHeartRadio app or go to ninety four to three
WS dot com, go under podcasts and look for your
home through all right, I promise to the latest market numbers.
I'm going to blast through these real quick. This is
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Charleston County's single family detached homes. We're going to do
the month of July because that's the latest data available.
And this is comparing this July to last July. New
listings up thirty seven percent, close sales up twenty two
point three percent, the median sales price up eight point
nine percent. You know what the median sales price for
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the month of July and Charleston County is for a
single family detached home six hundred and ninety nine thousand dollars.
Townhouses in condos Charleston County year over year for the
month of July, new listings up twelve point six percent,
close sales up two point one percent, Median sales price
up five point two percent. Median sales price for the
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month of July four hundred and five grand for a
townhouse or a condo Berkeley County single family detached July
over July year over year this July compared to last July,
new listings down ten point eight percent, close sales down
six point two percent, median sales price up six point
seven percent. Median sales price for a single family detached
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home in Berkeley County in July four hundred and seven
thousand dollars. Town homes in condos new listings up sixty
eight point three percent, closed sales up forty eight point
two percent, and the median sales price up nine point
six percent. That's now at three hundred and twenty nine
thousand dollars for Berkeley County townhouses and condos month of July.
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Moving on to Dorchester County, this is year over year
this July compared to last July, single family detached homes
new listings up thirteen point seven percent, closed sales up
twenty five percent, Median sales price up one point nine percent.
Median sales price for a single family detached home in
Dorchester County during the month of July three hundred and
(11:53):
ninety three thousand, five hundred and fifteen dollars. Dorchester County
townhouses in condos year over year for July, new listings
down twenty nine point eight percent, closed sales up thirteen percent,
the median sales price down six point seven percent to
two hundred and seventy two thousand, five hundred dollars. I'll
warn you to take the townhouse in condo numbers for
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Dorchester County with a grain of salt, because that was
only based on twenty six closed sales prices. They're still
going up. What can you do for relief? You can
go jump in a pool. I don't know if that'll
help you with home prices, but it will help you
to relax. In the studio with me is Heath Bodorf.
He's vice president of Pool Works. They're the low Country's
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exclusive dealer of the Little Pool line of pools here
in the low Country. Welcome Heath. Let's start by explaining
what a little pool is. A little pool is a
plunge pool, right.
Speaker 3 (12:47):
It is a plunge pool, but it's a free standing
plunch pool. So it's a fiberglass pool shell and then
surrounded with a exoskeleton of GRP, which is glass rein
first polymer, or some people call the glass reinforced plastic.
It doesn't rust, it doesn't rot, it doesn't get termite damage.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
It's pretty tough stuff.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
And just to set this up, so the fiberglass comes
from Australia, right, that's correct, and then you manufacture it,
put it together here in Ridgeville, right here in South Carolina.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
That is correct.
Speaker 3 (13:19):
It is shipped in containers nested together. The pool shells
are it's a standard fiberglass pool built for originally built
for end ground, been modified a little bit so that
it can accept our exoskeleton. And once they're brought in,
they come in nested together in a container. And then
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here in Ridgeville they take the pool shells and then
convert that over and add the GRP exoskeleton to make
it a free standing fiberglass pool.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
Now, the exoskeleton is an important component, if not the
most important component of the pool. That's what gives it
its strength, right, heath.
Speaker 3 (13:56):
Yeah, So the exoskeleton is what allows this pool to
be free standing. So it's a patented process of how
it's applied to the pool. And then once that pool
is built the exoskeleton, you can fill it full of water.
Net it allows that pools so that it can withstand
those forces of the you know, the water pushing outwards
(14:17):
on that pool. So most fiberglass pools, if you were
to take a standard fiber glass pool and sit that
on the ground and fill it full water, the whole
sides would just literally buckle. They would they would push
out to an extent. And then if you know, take
somebody and have to do a cannon ball in it,
that force, that pressure that would be a for exerted
on that pool wall would literally bust the walls. So
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is what the little pool is. It's engineered and designed
to a point that it can withstand that.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
I think they're testing.
Speaker 3 (14:45):
One of their testing is they take a fifty five
gallon drum, raise it thirteen feet in the ear, and
then free to fill drop it into a water filled
pool and it's able to withstand that. So that's part
of their testing procedures. They have a lot of patented
trademarks on the actual process that I can't share, but
it's you know, it's it's pretty strong. It's it's durable
to last most people in entire lifetime.
Speaker 2 (15:07):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
And it's strong enough too. Where this is what impressed
me is you can attach a deck to it without
any supports for the deck right and strong enough to
support not only the water and people jumping in it,
but you can also if you want to put it
next to a deck, you can attach the deck base
right to it. Right.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (15:25):
So a lot of times, like if you were to
take a standard above ground pool or you know, the
old the round, you know, type of above ground pools,
and you wanted to deck run it, you would have
to put support columns right up.
Speaker 2 (15:35):
Next to the pool.
Speaker 3 (15:36):
Well, with this pool, you know, first of all, it's
not you know, it's not a tin can pool, but
it is an actual fire glass pool, and you can
attach what we call a whaling board around the perimeter
of it and then set your floor joists right on it,
so you don't need those support structures right up next
to the pool.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
The pool is the support structure, so it's.
Speaker 3 (15:54):
Kind of like cannilever in your deck off that so
you could go out eight ten, twelve feet before you
actually have to put your first post. Now, of course,
a lot of that's in your designs and everything, but yeah,
the pool was strong enough to withhold with stand the
entire deck load, all on all four sides at once,
and still be strong enough to hold that water.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
Yeah, that's awesome. And you know, and we had discussed
this before about you know, we're in the low country,
so groundwater level is pretty high here sometimes, you know,
I joke, it's like a you know, right at the
ground level, at the ground water. And so some people
with these fiberglass pools, if you don't keep them full,
they can pop right out of the ground. And not
(16:34):
only that, but with flooding issues and everything else, sometimes
an in ground pool is just not practical. So the
little pool that you manufacturer is perfect for a situation
like that. And not only is it strong, it's pretty too.
Speaker 3 (16:49):
Right, without being over or zealous on this, I mean,
it's it's a swimming pool that is gorgeous. It's the
colors are beautiful, the warranty on it's astronomical. They've never
had a reported case of osmosis in their pools. Shells,
and so you know, they offer a twenty five year
warranty on that. And you know, typically in the fibreglass industry,
(17:12):
you see, you know, had a bad name you know,
from the eighties in that where people were using the
wrong kind.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
Of resins and stuff.
Speaker 3 (17:19):
So you've seen a lot of osmosis on stuff on
pool shells and never has Compass, our manufacturer of our
poolshell they have never had a recorded case of osmosis.
So that's that's that's a big statement right there. And
just the pool itself is gorgeous. They've nailed the colors.
It's kind of a three D look to it. It's
a pretty pool and it's just like any other fiberglass pool.
(17:39):
You can do what you want with it. You know,
you can put jets in it and put different lights
in it. You can do all kinds of things in it.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
Now. They're also light weight, so they're perfect for tight
spaces or spaces that are hard to get you know,
any kind of heavy equipment into that you would normally
use to dig an in ground pool and in a
lot of cases you can be swimming the same day
it's delivered. Right, So explain the installation process. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
So typically the pools are designed to sit.
Speaker 3 (18:05):
On a on a some type of flat surface, whether
that is concrete or pavers.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
There's engineer drawings for each of those.
Speaker 3 (18:15):
It tells you how thick the concrete needs to be
and how big the pavers need to be. In stuff,
but so whether you sink it in the ground, partially
fully or fully above ground, or raise it up on
a steel platform for like say and Ile Palms type
project where they wanted their pool up level with the
first story of the home, then you know there's there's
(18:35):
that type of design.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
It's built into the pool.
Speaker 3 (18:37):
It's able to do all that and when you take
all the benefits of having this type of pool, it
really fits different installation in scenario. So one one might
be you know, one the pool is super light, it's
it's the biggest pool I think is rated around thirty
three hundred pounds. When you compare that to say a
(18:58):
shipping container pool or a pre fab concrete pool, you
know those things weigh twenty twenty six thousand pounds depending
on what size you're getting fifteen thousand pounds, and you
take you might have to crane something over home or something.
Well for every pound, you've got to move a foot.
That costs money. So if it's a lot cheaper to
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take a three thousand and thirty three hundred pound pool,
lift it over a home, sit it in somebody's backyard
than it is a twenty five thousand pounds pool.
Speaker 2 (19:28):
So huge cost difference.
Speaker 3 (19:30):
There are huge cost savings in the actual shipping of
the pool. You know, less weight to ship down the road,
down the highway, but you know that's one way to
install it. You can install it with a crane. The
cool thing about the little pool is in some scenarios
it's actually easy enough to actually put casters under it
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and wheel it into somebody's backyard.
Speaker 2 (19:52):
It's that light as long as you.
Speaker 3 (19:53):
Have some way to lift it off the truck, whether
that's with a telehandler type of piece of equipment. Very
few people will probably familiar with that term, but a
brand name would be a lull A. It's a fork
truck that's kind of all terrained with an extendable boom
and then so that that can even lift it in
most of the times that it'll fit between people's homes,
and that's a very cost effective way of getting it
(20:15):
in a backyard. If you have to lift it over
a fence or something like that. So the site work
getting into a little bit of the site work part
of it. The site work is you know, it can
be as minimal as putting some papers on the ground,
you know, ripping up some sawed a little bit, not
really digging into the ground and putting a paper base
down and putting the papers in, stamping them in place,
and then putting the pool on top of that. Or
it can be a little more intensive. You know, let's
(20:38):
do a concrete pad because maybe we need to bring
it up to an existing deck level. Then at that
point you might want to bring it up you know,
save foot you know, then okay, so you want to
bring your concrete pad up level so that the top
of that pool is going to be even with the
existing deck that's already there, so that, you know, the
site work is minimal. When you consider pools, a tip
of wind ground pool, you know, there's a lot of
(21:00):
dirt to move and a lot of dirt to haul
out of somebody's backyard, and this one here, you know,
it depended on this situation and it's not made for
every situation. You know, that's something that you know, it's
got to be taken into account when you're when you're
thinking about a little pool or any punch pool, you know,
is it going to fit the family of six?
Speaker 1 (21:20):
Right? You were telling me off the air, You're like,
you know, I just don't want this to be a
sales piece for the little pool. I want to be
informative and let people know what they are and let
people know that it might not be right for everyone.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
That's correct.
Speaker 3 (21:33):
So you know, if you look at you know, trends
in the pool industry, you know, years ago, everybody wanted
that free form pool that was big and you know,
it had an eight foot nine foot deep end. And
you know, since most people have gotten away from because
of mainly insurance reasons, have gotten away from putting diving
boards in pools. Today, you know, your average homeowner, they're
(21:58):
not going to use that space out there that seven
eight foot deep unless they purposely got that pool to
swim laps. Nobody wants to go out there and tread water.
So the need to have that big deep pool in
it today is is really not there unless it's just
mindset from well that's what my parents had or that's
what my grandparents had, but nobody puts diving boards. They
(22:19):
might put a slide here and there, but really that's
a thing of the past. And so when you think
about pools today and how the industry has evolved, you know,
you see people a lot more companies offering these plunge pools. Well,
let's let's explain what a plunge pool is. So a
plunge pool is a smaller pool. It's designed for, you know,
(22:41):
coming home from work and relaxing. It's designed for entertaining
a few guests, having some you know, a glass of
wine or a cocktail or even a beer after work whatever,
getting in there, chill, let your stress take you, you
know that just wash that stress away from you, just
cooling down after mowing the lawn on a Saturday or something.
And that's what a plunch pool is, you know. It's
it's a pool to just sit in, relax, enjoy company
(23:05):
of others, enjoy, you know, just taking that stress away
from the day of work. And that's what, you know,
I think, you know, that's what a plunch pool does.
It's I think when they originally started out, people were
calling them party pools. You know, it's it's not even
really a party pool. It's it's a something for you
to enjoy almost on a personal level, where you know,
(23:26):
your typical big, you know pool. You know, you've got
a family of six. Is a plunch pool going to
work for that person?
Speaker 2 (23:32):
No, it's not.
Speaker 3 (23:32):
And uh, some people, you know, they got it. They
want that big pool. They want to be able to
swim laps in it, and not that plunch pools can't
offer some forms of exercise. You know, there's there's stuff
that that are made to to you know, you can
actually swim with and stuff. But and those options are
available even on the little pool. But you know, is
(23:53):
it going to be the right pool for a family
that has maybe three or four kids and those kids
are going to grow up for the next ten years
in that home before they go off to college, and
they're going to have friends over and they're going to
want to play you know, volleyball, basketball.
Speaker 2 (24:05):
Stuff like that. Is it the right pool for that? No,
it's not.
Speaker 3 (24:07):
And so really educating the consumer about what works best
for them, I think that's more important than actually selling
the pool. I think, you know, if the industry, I
had a customer and it's a very well known person
in the area, he just bought a little pool from us,
and one of his comments was he said, your industry
is broken and that it took me a step back.
(24:30):
But you know what's funny, I knew that the industry
has broken. The pool professionals don't have a good name.
I think currently in the state of South Carolina there
are three or four lawsuits against pool companies. That's bad press.
That's why is that what's going on in the industry.
So I think that's these are all questions people need
to talk to their their pool company about and you know,
(24:51):
educate themselves. What what makes a good pool company a
good pool company?
Speaker 1 (24:55):
Sure, and you know, and what makes a pool a
good pool And what makes the installation process a good
installation process one that's not going to cause you headaches
down the road.
Speaker 3 (25:05):
That's correct, That's correct. You know, it's all about, you know,
making the right choice. And you know, if I got
to walk away from a job, even though I might
want that sale, if I got to walk away from
it because it doesn't fit that customer or it doesn't
fit that situation.
Speaker 2 (25:21):
Maybe they even believe that it fits them.
Speaker 3 (25:23):
But if it doesn't, and if I've you know, you
got to look at you know, consumers, not a pool professional.
They haven't installed fifty or one thousand or a hundred
or whatever that number is for each each different pool
builder out there. If if if you got to walk
away from it, you know you got to because that's
it's more about that consumer's happiness. You definitely don't want
(25:45):
a consumer that you sold a pool tool just for
the pool sale and then next year them realized that, hey,
this wasn't really the greatest purchase for us. You know,
pool is a big investment. It's not a necessity. It
is a desire, it's a it's a it's a want,
and you know, you want that person to make the
right choice. And that's that's what we're about. That's what
(26:07):
pool Works is about. That's why we, you know, have
the reputation we do have. You know, we're not afraid
to walk away from it if it's not the right
fit for that customer.
Speaker 1 (26:17):
Well, for those that are interested in learning more about
the little pool line of pools, what should they do?
Speaker 3 (26:23):
One they could call us. That's probably the best way.
It's eight four three six nine five eight three five five.
The other way is just go to our website and
you know, we have some contact of stuff. We don't
spam people, really, we don't you If you fill out
that form on our website, it stays in house. We
don't sell it. We don't do anything like that. We
just contact you know, if you're interested, We're not going
(26:44):
to hound you. Or if you know, if you just
want general some knowledge, you know, we're we're here to
to help educate people. That's that's the important part.
Speaker 1 (26:51):
In the website's mypoolworks dot com. Mypoolworks dot com. Go
ahead and give the phone number one more time.
Speaker 2 (26:57):
It's eight four three six nine five eight three five five.
Speaker 1 (27:01):
Well, you're celebrating a birthday and you're having a spring promotion,
and right now for our listeners, you're offering them two
thousand dollars off their order, right.
Speaker 2 (27:09):
That is correct.
Speaker 3 (27:09):
So pool Works has been in business sixteen years as
of March, and we're extending that promotion into the end
of April. So yeah, take get your pool ordered and
we'll help you. And you can take two thousand dollars
off the cost of that pool, or you can add
it to some you know, something else that you want.
Maybe you want a heater or something like that. Definitely,
and you said, you can even you even have the equipment.
(27:31):
It escapes me what it's called, but you can even
there's all kinds of add ons and you can even
swim laps, right.
Speaker 2 (27:37):
That's correct.
Speaker 3 (27:38):
So we offer a super swim system. It's actually what
the University of Florida US is to train their swimmers.
So that's that, that's part of a package. And it's
very affordable. It's nothing like putting a you.
Speaker 2 (27:51):
Know, like a pool pool or something like that in
your back ey.
Speaker 3 (27:54):
It's this is very easy, very affordable, and it's it's great.
It provides resistance training and it's that's what really builds exercise.
Speaker 1 (28:02):
Well, that's excellent. Go to mypoolworks dot com or the
phone number one more time.
Speaker 2 (28:06):
Eight four three six nine five eight three fivey five.
Speaker 1 (28:09):
Heath Bodorf, vice president of pool Works, the Low Country's
exclusive dealer of the Little Pool line of pools. Thanks
for your time and thanks for the explanation today.
Speaker 2 (28:18):
Thank you, Michael, appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (28:19):
That's it for your home three sixty. Make sure you
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