Peacemaker Season 2, Episode 8 Review + Recapping New York City Comic Con Announcements

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:09):
Welcome back to the nerdy news you need to know
throughout the week. On iHeartRadio, I'm bad cat Services around
the world because my name's Hoodie, I'm Kenny, and you're
officially listening to this post Peacemaker episode of What Canon
Crisis on Infinite Pod.

Speaker 2 (00:30):
I was shaking my head because I was gonna turn
on cat cam for the first time in a while
and did my cat walk walk out of the shot?

Speaker 1 (00:35):
Dammit? I set this up for you. And well, if
Cookie the cat does come back, who that kind of
kind of rhymed a little bit. Not really, not really,
but it's in my head right cat cam will go
live for a hot second or anything. But we got
a jam back.

Speaker 3 (00:51):
Show for you today.

Speaker 1 (00:52):
Obviously, we are talking about peace Maker season two, season finale,
potentially series finale. Figure that out and talk about that.
We have thoughts, we have thoughts. We're gonna talk about
what's next for pretty much Peacemaker, the character, the DCU
after and now the show's officially done, and we're gonna
break down and recap sort of the big hits from

(01:14):
this year's New York New York City Comic Con. There
you go, It's New York Comic Con there, not New
York City Common. I was like, there's an extra scene
in there where we'll be talking about the wonder Man
trailer sort of pretty much the state of the MCU
going forward, and a couple other tidbits which would be fun.

Speaker 2 (01:30):
Like a lot of people are having fun at uh,
New York Comic Con this weekend. That's more of a
traditional comic con field than what SDCC turned into the
last fifteen years.

Speaker 1 (01:41):
Yeah, and I feel like they had a good, good
amount of news this year, Like normally New York Comic
Con kind of is like, yeah, a couple of things
maybe like Walking Dead stuff, but this year has some good,
some good stuff.

Speaker 3 (01:52):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:52):
And again like going to the cosplay that's a really
cool I think it was spider Bit from Piderman Beyond
Spider Verse and this terrific cost play.

Speaker 3 (02:01):
I was like, Wow, you guys put put in work.

Speaker 1 (02:03):
You figured it out, you figured it out finally.

Speaker 2 (02:07):
The thing about being a cosplay artist, it's not only
like being really good at designing and you know, creating
a costume that'd be in shape, because you can't you can't.

Speaker 1 (02:15):
Well not necessarily, you don't have to be. It helps though,
it helps.

Speaker 2 (02:20):
The illusions, especially when the little kids he's capt in
America and he's not.

Speaker 1 (02:23):
Yes, plus size costumes can only help so much.

Speaker 3 (02:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:27):
Yeah, Like I feel like fat Thor made it okay
for us to be a little rounds, but you know
they still Thor.

Speaker 1 (02:33):
But I do appreciate And this is tangent before we
actually got into the actual rigging role of the podcast
is Halloween Costumes dot Com, which has kind of been
like it was like the number four, now it's like
the number one for like having all the IP for
Halloween costumes. This year has very inclusive of its sizing.
I saw this year because instead of doing like small, medium, large,
extra large, and then all the other things that goes

(02:54):
large excel and large excel like encompasses a lot of
bigger sizes in there, like you know what, look at
you appreciate that making us feel nice.

Speaker 2 (03:03):
I do feel like there needs to be like like
half sizes too, because right now I am too small
for that three for three X, but at the same
time I'm still a couple of words and two like
two and a half yeah, perfect.

Speaker 1 (03:15):
Yeah, or just like a certain part of me is
like is that size, but the other the rest of
me is not Like I fit in large chaps for
a costumer and doing not for costume. I was like,
this is weird. I haven't been in anything large like
that in a while.

Speaker 2 (03:30):
I wish like there was like memorable old school Mike
you pump shoes and you pump the shirt.

Speaker 3 (03:34):
I wish I was somebody like for shirts and pants,
like there we go.

Speaker 1 (03:38):
You know, let me have, let me crank it if
I want it tighten, you know side. But you can
see everything we're gonna talk about in our genius Idea
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give it to you. But Kevin, if they want to
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heard of, sizing inclusive inclusivity, where can they go?

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Speaker 2 (04:21):
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Speaker 3 (04:29):
There's a cat there the cat.

Speaker 2 (04:30):
Yes, it is a in the in in in the corner.
She's guess taking we're going to take another nap. But
that is an official thing you can see on video
on the TV.

Speaker 1 (04:39):
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Speaker 2 (04:44):
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watch the boys, you gotta watch gen V, you gotta
watch in Vincimentals coming.

Speaker 3 (04:54):
Up to you. Gonna watch all these shows. Yeah, Prime,
you know what I'm saying. So talk to your boys
a quick sub and we'll be appreciative.

Speaker 1 (05:00):
Yeah, and fun fact, the only place you can technically
stream those og Scooby Doo movies it's Prime Video right now.
So if you watch Scooby Doo and Spooky Island or
Cyberchase or the Alien one. But the Alien one was
called you gotta get primed. So the one with John Cena,
he was in one. Oh, that was like a rest
that was a wrestling tie and I want Scooby.

Speaker 3 (05:21):
Yeah, Scooby Doo.

Speaker 1 (05:25):
WrestleMania Mystery in twenty fourteen.

Speaker 3 (05:28):
Twenty fourteen, what man was it?

Speaker 1 (05:31):
Yeah? What a period of time? Not what a time
like that was great, but what a period of time.

Speaker 3 (05:39):
The big show was too. It was weird. It was
it was was go watch it, Yes.

Speaker 1 (05:42):
And you need to go watch is John Cena and
aj Styles match from over the week because that was
Chef's kids. I just kept seeing highlights. I was like, oh,
they did another move, Oh they did another move, and
that's all the ww Twitter account was.

Speaker 3 (05:56):
It was.

Speaker 2 (05:56):
It was really cool. I didn't watch all of it
live because I was getting ready for a birthday party.
But it was a pretty good event. I have my
issues with Seth Robins as a heel character, but it's
not that kind of podcast. That's a different part.

Speaker 1 (06:06):
He'll get a little bit into it in this new segment.
In this not new segment, but this segment we like
to call what You're Doing, where we talking about the
shows and movies. We've been watching games, we've been playing, lives,
we've been living. Because it is Monday, Kevin, you get
to go first, good sir.

Speaker 3 (06:23):
Yes. So my weekend was filled with a birthday party
from my sister in law. I'm not gonna say her
age because I actually.

Speaker 2 (06:30):
Would like to live to see Monday. But we celebrated
her yesterday in a big way.

Speaker 3 (06:36):
It was really awesome. DJ catered food on the whole
nine and it was a great time. Really.

Speaker 2 (06:42):
I wish I could have enjoyed a party a little more,
but I kind of fell on the sword a little bit,
so to speak, because my youngest curate was on one yesterday.
She was just in everything and I was trying to
do that so we at least you gonna have ao time.
But she never gets have a good time with the
kids every morning, school, a kind of stuff. So I
was kind of, you know, I was kind of hover parenting,

(07:02):
but I wasn't.

Speaker 3 (07:03):
It's also time to keep her in eyeshot. We were
in one space.

Speaker 2 (07:06):
I'm trying to keep her an eye shot, and it
was so much stuff she was doing, like trying to
pull the table, the table covers off the table. She
tried to get in the ice cooler. At one point
she got on all fours and tried to drink the
water out of the ice Bin. I'm like, come on,
do what to me? So chasing her around was fun.
Eventually I took her outside to the playground I was nearby.

(07:26):
She had fun time on that. But yeah, it was
it was a really good time, really good food. Like
I said. Also, I got to watch a little bit
of Crown Jewel. I thought it was a pretty good show.
I wasn't really happy with I'll say I wasn't unhappy
with the Cody Seth match, basically Seth winning. I'm just

(07:49):
not been a big fan of this. Seth Robins care
because to me and this is is kind of a
deep cut if you watch wrestling. He used a wrestling
podcast called The Good Marks back when all my wrestling
friends living the same stage and peace.

Speaker 3 (08:00):
They don't anymore. It's kind of hard conclud listen, Virginia,
it's kind of hard.

Speaker 1 (08:05):
Okay, same region, but we always used.

Speaker 2 (08:10):
To complain about Seth Rollins. He'll run circa twenty sixteen
and seventeen to the authority because it was always him
and eminem Security and Triple H pulling them out of
the fire.

Speaker 3 (08:19):
And I feel like it's the same thing now.

Speaker 2 (08:21):
But that was just the bronze and Paul Hayman and
I just I just don't see the originality of it.
It's just just not fun me to watch. But it's
a cool thing about wrestling. It's right, another part of the
show you can watch and enjoy, so like I enjoyed
the ending of bron Break Bronze and Red and Rome
Raines and Romeraines telling Jay So and Jimmy, I don't
want see you all the Christmas.

Speaker 1 (08:40):
Hell, yeah, Rowan's gone, He's gone till Christmas.

Speaker 2 (08:44):
But it's also like when we all have family gun
on the nerves, like you know what, I'll see you
next Christmas.

Speaker 1 (08:47):
I don't want to see you anytime I've had you,
and I see you at the holiday. All right.

Speaker 3 (08:53):
I thought that was great. I'm a big fan of
Stephanie Vicare.

Speaker 2 (08:55):
I'm glad she won and she's now the Crown Jewel
Women's Champion.

Speaker 1 (08:58):
Again that Big Champions.

Speaker 2 (09:02):
Made it for money, I get it. But again, that
Johnson and aj style match was one for the ages.

Speaker 1 (09:07):
I mean it should have been the main event. Should
it really.

Speaker 2 (09:10):
Should have been the main event. Everybody would have went
home happy no matter who won. And it's sad to
think that this time next year those guys won't be
around anymore to both retiring, so it's kind of sad. Well,
I know Johnson definitely gets well see why j styles.
I feel like he's one of those guys gonna sitt
home for a year and be like, you know what,
I could still do this show.

Speaker 1 (09:26):
He'll show up on Ana TNA won one match, one
last match and tam exactly.

Speaker 2 (09:32):
But that's been my weekend. Also, I got back in
because of the man. I got back into w W
T twenty five again.

Speaker 4 (09:39):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (09:39):
Yeah, one moment we're playing.

Speaker 2 (09:42):
Earlier, I did a Gotland match where I started number
one and number ten people and I crawled to.

Speaker 1 (09:47):
That's that's the thing. Those Gotland matches are like, oh,
this sounds great, Like I don't want to do this,
like's not just me beating up guys and me having
to do it over and stacking finishers to get to
the end.

Speaker 2 (09:59):
Yeah, but I did a smart thing, like everybody I
face was over ninety.

Speaker 3 (10:03):
So it was a little rough.

Speaker 2 (10:05):
It was a little rough, especially when Sean Michaels kicking
out everything, like come on, Sean, stay down.

Speaker 1 (10:10):
Here's an idea Wrestling Battle Royale for w W two
k twenty six, so y'all, and it's essentially like Fortnite,
I know, Stadium Stampedees kind of like that is you
start in the arena, you're pining someone, they're eliminated, and
then all right, now you're going for the four hundred sections,
three hundred, two hundred, one hundred, all right, now you're
just on the mat. Now just the ring, all right,

(10:30):
last man standing, who doesn't get pinned? You win to
a really cool match. It's gotta be an empty arena match,
but it's okay.

Speaker 2 (10:39):
I also, actually I think they have something similar that
to aw FI Forever, but it's not as organized weird.

Speaker 3 (10:45):
But also I create a match. I created a table
iron man match.

Speaker 1 (10:50):
How many tables can this man go through? Just broken
tables everywhere?

Speaker 3 (10:53):
I played ten minutes.

Speaker 2 (10:54):
I think at the end of it, I had put
my on to a table like fifteen times.

Speaker 3 (10:58):
I fell through for like maybe five.

Speaker 1 (11:00):
Like, how many tables did they put under this ring?
Good lord?

Speaker 3 (11:05):
What's on weekend? By about you? Buddy? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (11:07):
So, also speaking of wrestling, Pro Tip Listeners podcast, uh
pre sale for John Cena's last match because there's only
four left now.

Speaker 3 (11:16):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (11:16):
In DC Saturday Night's main event pre sales on Wednesday.
So pro tip either next podcast, your boys gonna be
real happy or real sad. Either way, probably real poor.

Speaker 2 (11:28):
So yeah, man, I got a body stupid wicked tickets.

Speaker 1 (11:34):
It's okay you have other priorities, but so hopefully your
boys going. Uh there's a little posse at work that's
trying to go and it for me, Uh, it is
having faith in someone else's booking my tickets. I do
not like that. Type a virgo over here needs to
be the one on Ticketmaster doing it.

Speaker 3 (11:54):
That's the thing.

Speaker 2 (11:55):
Whenever we plan our christ outings, Hoodie is the planner.

Speaker 1 (11:57):
I let them.

Speaker 3 (11:58):
I know hood he doing it. I'm gonna work about.

Speaker 1 (12:00):
It my own bachelor party. I said, hey, let me
buy the damn tickets and you can all pay me back.

Speaker 2 (12:07):
He is a master planner. Honestly, I wish you could
play my family vacations. You know what, Maybe that's not
paying you to do that.

Speaker 3 (12:14):
I'm not sure.

Speaker 1 (12:15):
We'll see. We'll SEEAU. I also have to I think
also in two weeks I have to start booking all
the reservations for Disney for my family.

Speaker 3 (12:22):
I'm like.

Speaker 1 (12:24):
My brother, my actual brother John. You need to buy
your ticket because I cannot get you a reservation. Lett
you have a ticket for a bark parks.

Speaker 3 (12:31):
Or as long as that one straggler.

Speaker 1 (12:35):
It's like, I will buy your ticket if you need
me to. But that's the life stuff I was going
on in my life. Also, I had to buy Alan
Jackson ticket, so that'll be fun. You'll find out why
on Thursday if I can get them. So it's a
certain someone doesn't listen to this podcast. I don't know
if she does or not anymore. But besides that, I
got to go to mass and Unton this weekend. It
was my dad's birthdaday, so he celebrated. He turned sixty one,

(12:57):
so it was fun. It was cools my massive nuns
like near Harrisonburg's JMU. So obviously went to the BUCkies again,
still just as packed, but I wasn't able to get
gas this time.

Speaker 3 (13:07):
So it was kind of cool. I got gas.

Speaker 2 (13:10):
I went to mess Dunting for a honeymoon actually in
the resort there in married.

Speaker 3 (13:14):
They have a really cool water park there.

Speaker 1 (13:16):
Yeah, I will say though, they had a fall festival
that was thirty dollars to get in and I was like, okay,
that's fine. There's food stands and everything, all right, cool,
get in there. Yeah, thirty dollars just to get in.
No drink, no food, No, you pay that on your own.
So that kind of sucked. I was like, that's a
little bit of a jyp. I don't care about the

(13:38):
live musicians playing right now. For thirty dollars, I won
at least a snack in one drink for free included
in my thirty dollars.

Speaker 2 (13:46):
Yeah, we had that recently here on Baltimore Food Truck Festival,
and I think it was on the same price thirty
to thirty five dollars to get in, But then you
gotta pay for your food and get in, so like
you paid money, tried something from each truck. But luckily
your boy, we sponsor it at work.

Speaker 1 (14:00):
That helps, uh, And then it was cool. My brother
actually did the used to live in harrison Burg. He
was on the news station there reporting news. Uh, so
he kind of know the ins and outs and everything,
and he did get recognized, which is kind of cool,
even though he was at that station like four years ago.
So it just goes to show people remember, yeah four
years later.

Speaker 2 (14:21):
I would have loved somebody's like I remember you from
UH for news. Wait a minute, Andrew from your morning,
are you guys brothers?

Speaker 1 (14:31):
And then on top of that, your boy did actually
find a card shop in Manassas near Mora's parents' house.
And conveniently enough I found out Satan Plaza More gets
her haircuts at. So I'm like, oh, will drive you
personally to go get your haircuts from now so I
could go buy some gods.

Speaker 3 (14:49):
Baby, So want to make sure you get here safety,
That's what it makes sure you get safe.

Speaker 1 (14:53):
You know, I'll be upstairs. You on the bottom floor
the card shops upstairs, don't worry. I'll be thinking about you.
How much you spent your hair cut, how much you
spend on your Pokemon cards? I see concur all right,
point the standard. But that's been my weekend obviously. Need
to let us know what you've been doing, what you've

(15:14):
been up to. Uh you can, you can d m
us at inf and Underscore pods being the chat Twitch
dot tv, slash Infinite Underscore pods as well. But let's
get on into it because it is time and first
things first, releast, we have to talk about New York

(15:36):
Comic On New York, New York, I was.

Speaker 3 (15:43):
Trying the same Dayzy one. This didn't didn't work out.

Speaker 1 (15:46):
It didn't work out, did not work out. So New
York Comic Con. Obviously, it kind of comes and goes.
We always know it's in the fall, usually around October time,
right before Halloween. Uh. Like we said kind of beginning
this podcast, Nor has a lot of walking Dead stuff
for TV shows you might like it, very has very
dedicated audiences to watching. But this year felt like there

(16:09):
was kind of a little bit of everything for everybody.
Whether you liked Invincible, you like books, you like Star Wars,
you like Marvel, or anything else in between. So, Kevin,
any standout highlights for you from this year's in New
York Comic Con.

Speaker 3 (16:22):
One of the highlights I.

Speaker 2 (16:23):
Think that I ran on a Marvel update on Twitter
was that during the x N ninety seven panel, where
obviously revealed every want to have the next next season
next year, they also say they are in talks for
seasons four, five, and six.

Speaker 3 (16:35):
I'm like, wow, Marvel must really believe in this show
if they're already liked and talked for seasons after three.

Speaker 1 (16:42):
And I think that's the cool thing too, is that
we obviously we also have Marvel's Wolverine coming from Insomniac
next next year as well. Really what you think about it?
So I think they're like, hey, let's capitalize on this
X Men trend right now because people want to play Wolverine.
There'll probably be some X Men stuff in there, so
let's also give them a show they can watch at
the same time. That's really good too.

Speaker 3 (17:04):
It works for.

Speaker 2 (17:06):
The theater because Jane can if I said that the
next focus is going to be on the Mutants basically
is so basically you get your Mutune ficked for the
next three to five years and Field it was like, heah, yeah, cool,
but yeah, but speaking of Marvel, I guess let's break
down all that stuff because we're talking about so, like
keV said, X Men ninety seven season two.

Speaker 1 (17:25):
Which should be called ninety eight but whatever, it's coming
to Disney Plus summer twenty twenty six. But we also
kind of got like dates for what's actually coming out
in the immediate future of the Marvel Studios, not really MCU,
but Marvel Studios. Wonder Man comes out officially January twenty seventh,
twenty twenty six. We will get to that. That will

(17:47):
be at the end we'll talk about the trailer that
came out for that. Destin Daniel Cretin, creator of the show.
It will be eight episodes, which is pretty cool. Daredevil
board again, we'll talk about that, so we'll come back
to that one. Officially, season two looks like it is
coming out. I think it was March.

Speaker 3 (18:05):
I think I believe it's March.

Speaker 1 (18:06):
Yeah, March of twenty twenty six, which is really dope.
If you go to Kristin Woters Kristin Ritters Instagram stories,
you can actually see the trailer that they played only
at New York Comic Con, So look at it now. Well,
you can.

Speaker 3 (18:19):
Let me go save that right now so I can
watch it later.

Speaker 1 (18:22):
We also know Matthew Lillard is going to be in
the season as well, kind of being an antagonist up
against Kingpin. So anti antagonist. I guess if you want
to circle was complete the boom? Did it? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (18:37):
Done?

Speaker 1 (18:38):
Did it?

Speaker 3 (18:39):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (18:39):
I'm excited, Kevin, if you have anything to say, to
say it because something I really only saw like the
dates and everything. Yeah, Vision Quest, this is pretty cool.
We actually got a good amount of info for Vision Quest,
which is pretty dope, which as of right now, was
there a date on that, Kevin, I remember.

Speaker 2 (18:58):
I saw twenty twenty six, but it didn't say actual date. Okay,
so I'm guessing this will maybe be like the Winter
series next year. If you have wonder Man January, there
will maybe Spring X Men ninety seven in the summer.
I'm guessing this might be like the Fall Flash Show.
Maybe this time next year we may be seen yeah, which.

Speaker 1 (19:18):
Which is really cool, so obviously with it. They said
Vision Quest is the final chapter in the Wanda Vision saga.
Technically it's the third chapter in it really if you
think about it. We don't include Doctor Strange, Multiverse and
Madness in that saga, but Paul Bettany will be playing
White Vision, which we've known for a while as he

(19:39):
adjusted having the memories of the late Normal Vision but
no emotional attachments to them. Brad Winderbaum, who's kind of
the head of Marvel Television, also said they showed footage
showing Vision and human guys, So like remember from Wanda Vision,
you'll see him like that, and he's also turned. He'll
find a We'll see a lot of the AI characters

(20:02):
in the MCU, and Human Form will have James Darcy
being Jarvis at one point, Yes, you have a human
and James Darcy was in Agent Carter. He was also
in like for us, Yeah, a brief second of Endgame
it was like, hey you Agent Carter, fans, we got you.
You also have Edith and Friday will have human versions

(20:22):
as well, And the biggest reveal was that Ultron will
be in human form, played again by James Spader, which
is real dope and I believe. Oh the other big
reveal that Ultron will reveal that Vision has a son
that he doesn't know about.

Speaker 3 (20:40):
It's Tommy, who.

Speaker 1 (20:41):
Will actually be played by an actual actor, Ruard Malika,
who will be Vision and that show come out in
twenty twenty six.

Speaker 2 (20:51):
And this makes me excited because it also kind of
it's like a continuation of Acatholl along as well Hm,
because of how that show.

Speaker 3 (20:58):
Ended with oh she was was his name Billy? Billy?

Speaker 2 (21:02):
Yeah, I'm trying to find Tommy, So I'm excited about that.
I'm also just I'm a big kan of Paul Bettany
in the MCU. I'm kind of happy to see him
back and this it's been almost five years since he
said I have a Vision and flew off.

Speaker 1 (21:16):
He's gone.

Speaker 2 (21:18):
But yeah, We also got news too that may be
excited because me and you really enjoyed the show last year.

Speaker 3 (21:24):
Put a spider Man Hell yeah, well and that makes
me really excited because I thought that it was a
really solid series.

Speaker 1 (21:29):
Yeah, and so the actually if you painted the picture
we kind of as we're doing right now. That'll be
coming out Fall twenty twenty six. So X Men will
probably end. It'll probably be like a three week gap
before that comes out. So, like you said, Vision Quest
will probably be your November is show up to Avengers
Doomsday coming out December eighteenth for twenty twenty six. And

(21:49):
this doesn't also include the Spider Man movie that's potentially
supposed to come out next year's or as slated to
come out next year as well. So pretty stacked twenty
twenty six if you really think about it. For Marvel,
it doesn't look like it, but it's pretty stacked. Still,
there's more, and you.

Speaker 2 (22:05):
Know, Ace speaks a hot ground fonder. What else can
I say? That's like a cliche. You know, I'm happy
for this. Ninety seven was great. We love Dared Devil
and to see that that's coming back with a more
sinister tone and supposedly reading some things about this as well.
This actually is taking place canonically before the events on

(22:26):
Spider Man, Brave New Nothing in the World, spider Man, What.

Speaker 3 (22:31):
No, the New Spider Man movie, Brand New Day, Brand
New Day, And according to the director, there will be
some references to Spider Man in it. I guess we
won't see Tom holland Spider Man. I mean s Pider
Man is a movie guy can see.

Speaker 2 (22:45):
More TV and unfortunately, but to see that that's gonna
happen in the same world of New York and be referenced,
it's gonna be pretty fun to see.

Speaker 1 (22:51):
Yeah, And so the interesting thing is Dared Devil. I
think we'll probably once again eight to ten episodes, so
that would end right around end of April, beginning of May.
Hey boom tea up Spider Man. Here's a trailer seeing
seeing a month and a half, which will be pretty dope.

Speaker 2 (23:08):
Yeah again, even though it's such we have to wait
till next year to see next literally next year, because
December to see Avengers Doomsday or Avengers five Part one.

Speaker 3 (23:23):
Tact to begetting like.

Speaker 2 (23:24):
These little holdovers is interesting and like we'll get to
Wonder Man because I'm interested to see what you think
about it.

Speaker 1 (23:30):
Yeah, also just wasn't mentioned at all, but worth mentioning.
Just other dates we know about for things in the
ethos of the MCU. The Punisher, Marvel Special whatever that
is now categorized, also supposed to come out in twenty
twenty six at some time. Yeah, so that might be
the halloweenish show they put out normally. I don't know,

(23:52):
who knows. You also have Secret Wars is slated December
twenty twenty seven. Blade shun Chi and Armor Wars are
still up in the air, but hey, they they're still
slated on this list.

Speaker 2 (24:04):
A that the Punisher thing needs to come up before
d Old season two because it's kind of hand in hand.

Speaker 1 (24:12):
Yeah, so you would assume maybe, all right, here's Daredevil
and then well, actually just depends really what the Punisher
Special is about and if it ties in all how
he broke out and then caught up with Ray Red
or is it like separate in its own thing. We
will find out, most likely probably around January most likely.

Speaker 2 (24:33):
How could they escape from the President Just a one
shot of him messing people up? Just a long one shot.

Speaker 1 (24:37):
Yeah, steps well it's a whole yeah, one hour long shot.

Speaker 3 (24:42):
But speaking of shots.

Speaker 1 (24:44):
Uh, let's talk about Hollywood shots and frames and let's
get you in the mind of frame of mind. There
you go, because we do have to head on over
to Reaction Theater to talk about the trailer for wonder Man.
So let's break it down, effect, break it down, break
it down, break it down, all right? Buttons button frozen?

(25:06):
All right? So we broke it down better late than
never heard. Button said what you want to do? One?
You know it's Sunday, right, I'm off. You're off tomorrow too.
It's okay, it's whatever. So Kevin, uh, have you watched
the Wonder Band trailer already? Yes?

Speaker 2 (25:26):
I did watch yesterday while my daughter was going down
the slide, but I was trailer.

Speaker 3 (25:31):
It's like.

Speaker 1 (25:34):
Up and down. It's a long line for the slide. So, Kevin,
what do you know about the trailer that won't spoil
the trailer for me? Right now? Then?

Speaker 3 (25:44):
That this is going to be a how do I
say this?

Speaker 2 (25:48):
If you've watched Barry and if you've watched the Studio
on Apple TV plus Apple Plus is a very going
to be I think, a very inside Hollywood type of
show with a sting to it.

Speaker 1 (25:59):
Okay, Okay, that's good.

Speaker 3 (26:01):
That's good.

Speaker 1 (26:01):
That's a good summer statement.

Speaker 3 (26:02):
All right.

Speaker 2 (26:03):
I'm interested to see how it is actually going to
be taken in because I know you say you haven't
seen it yet.

Speaker 1 (26:06):
Right, No, I only saw the little teaser thing. It
was like trailer tomorrow, so I haven't seen this actual trailer.
So I'm actually excited. We do know, yeah, yah abdul
matein the second you know who was Manta Ray cole
Man two don't forget uh, and sir being Ben Kingsley
will be in the show.

Speaker 3 (26:24):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (26:25):
That's all I know.

Speaker 2 (26:27):
That's pretty much going in blind from this. And if
you're not familiar with wonder Man, wonder Man is a
very important character in the MCU to both Vision and Wanda,
So it'd be interesting to see what they do with
this because from this trailer, it's not like ACU show
this by a guy, So it'd be interesting to see

(26:48):
how this is.

Speaker 1 (26:48):
Actually and be interested to see it. They're like, oh,
we lie, this is also part of the wonder Vision
SOACA slash also how this show ends. But all right,
all right, we'll talk about that all are you ready, Kevin,
Let's do it all right? One A two, A three.

Speaker 4 (27:03):
The entertainment world is stunned today when internationally celebrated and
remoderns fame filmmaker von Kovak sprung out of retirement to
sign on for a remake of wonder Man. Mister von Kovak,
could you tell us more?

Speaker 3 (27:15):
Everyone?

Speaker 1 (27:17):
The dictator from Superman re imagine you thought about casting
very hired? What's this figure? This and you we're talking about.

Speaker 4 (27:30):
It's a huge opportunity.

Speaker 1 (27:33):
I'm auditioning for wonder Man.

Speaker 3 (27:36):
Did you hear about wonder Man? I need to be
in this movie. That you crazy?

Speaker 1 (27:42):
I was born to play this character.

Speaker 3 (27:44):
Are you serious?

Speaker 1 (27:45):
But they are already talking to Leo.

Speaker 3 (27:56):
You just gotta go out there and cuss.

Speaker 1 (28:04):
What's wrong.

Speaker 3 (28:04):
I'm trying to come up with a backstory for the character.

Speaker 1 (28:07):
We'll trust the words.

Speaker 3 (28:08):
Just show up and say them. Still that process will
the process can go.

Speaker 1 (28:12):
Blood Spider guys killing it in their brother wee.

Speaker 3 (28:21):
I'm pretty sure he used to be a terrorist already.

Speaker 1 (28:27):
Simon Williams reading for wonder Man.

Speaker 3 (28:31):
Give me Simon, the call back is happening now, normal,
normal me? The breakdown is go mess it. Come in,
mister Kovac will meet you in the living.

Speaker 2 (28:43):
Room, so you are here to meet b Unkovec.

Speaker 1 (28:48):
Hello everyone, I want to explore the place between fiction
and non fiction. Let's take weird doing to make lots
to move leon. This trailer is any news from Koba.

(29:13):
There is new. It'll be the first to know unless
you call me again, in which case I would never
tell you. That is an interesting trailer. That is no
Marvel at Oh that seems like that is that is
like the studio or buried.

Speaker 3 (29:33):
I mean, I'm.

Speaker 2 (29:34):
Wondering if the power to be at Marvel sot the
of the studio and saw that even though studio is
for California, it's for people that live in California, living
in working in business, that it was largely well received
by a large love of people. They're trying to bring
that flavor into the m CU with wonder Man. It
makes you want, It makes you wonder.

Speaker 1 (29:53):
And I also the teaser was really like, we know
you're tired of superhero SACas, but why are we doing this? Well,
we want to revitalize this superhero saga. To me, though,
I'm like, and I get it. This is the teaser
trailer really to get you into, like, what the hell
is the show gonna be about? So he gonna get powers?

Speaker 3 (30:09):
We playing?

Speaker 1 (30:10):
Is he Booster Golden in the MCU What are we
doing here?

Speaker 2 (30:14):
So in the comic books, Simon Williams has the power
of super strength and speed ability and all that stuff.
He also can reflect ionic physiology and had vision hearing.

Speaker 3 (30:26):
He's very strong. He's a very strong character.

Speaker 2 (30:28):
But I believe he's also in the com books actor
as well who happens.

Speaker 3 (30:31):
To get powers.

Speaker 1 (30:32):
Okay, okay, and also.

Speaker 2 (30:35):
In the comic books the Vision's brain waves are based
on him.

Speaker 3 (30:39):
Tony Stark, Bruce Banner and Jarvis.

Speaker 1 (30:43):
May be interested to know a vision quest pretend next year.

Speaker 2 (30:46):
Yeah, okay, So I'm wondering because this guy in the
trailer seems like more of a struggling up and coming
actor who like, like, for example, the guy shut up
in the trailer Alphacan. He's a buying star. He's been
in a lot of small stuff. He's been in two
B movies, he's been made for TV movies. I've seen
in commercials. But I've been following him since.

Speaker 3 (31:05):
Fine.

Speaker 2 (31:06):
He's that kind of guy who's like probably reads for
everything but only gets a callbacks every once in a while.
That's who this guy is and I'm wondering if the
genus of him actually getting some kind of super ability
is Trevor or somebody's witch. I knows, Hey, they take
this pill. It'll make you focus. Take the pill, and
that's the genesis of his super whatever.

Speaker 1 (31:25):
I like, Oh no, a camera fell on him and
it was radioactive radio boom, there you go, Bob Joan,
there that's all we need. Yeah, So eight episodes, so
January twenty seventh, that will really get us to March.
We're there to premiere. So yeah, look, it's really looking
like Disney is going full forward of we're gonna give

(31:47):
you something to watch practically every week of that's Marvel
related next year.

Speaker 2 (31:54):
Wait to kind of fill the void because i mean,
after Angela, all along, Hat all along in Daredevil, right,
those like the last two shows shows, and then between
that we've had X ninety seven, we've had Marble zawich
wasn't that bad?

Speaker 1 (32:10):
Actually in Spider Man Man, they're getting better.

Speaker 3 (32:15):
Incredmentally slowly, but you can see them kind of starting
to figure out how to do TV and that just
do a movie for TV, yes, me.

Speaker 1 (32:22):
And then and that'll be interesting going forward, especially like
this is kind of the Envision Quest to a degree,
but Vision Quest seems different. That's more of a or
ending to saga and all that. These are the last
kind of ideas out of that Disney Plus era we
could say of the pandemic, and we've kind of talked
about this is like what is going forward Disney Plus's

(32:42):
role with Star Wars shows and Marvel shows because we
know Mandalori and Grogu's coming out next year and that
kind of ends that saga. But then you got a
Soca h season two coming out as well. Man, that's
gonna be interesting because I assume ah Soca then will
come out in like April to fill that void into June.
Mostly like a good point.

Speaker 3 (33:01):
Too, so we'll probably we'll have some Star Wars makeing
with im see you next year. I didn't think about that.

Speaker 1 (33:06):
Actually, wait, good, what the hell?

Speaker 3 (33:08):
That?

Speaker 1 (33:08):
Okay? But the Man and Learning Grocer movie comes out? Man,
when is this Hoka coming out? Then this is interesting.
You got when you do all the chart and of
the MAVs like, well, that's gonna go there.

Speaker 3 (33:16):
But that's gonna go there.

Speaker 2 (33:19):
So glad I'm I am not a movie date scheduler
because I'll probably up pull them an deerpressure.

Speaker 1 (33:26):
Because it's a lot Yeah, well sometimes that's what happens.
H Either way, a lot of stuff for Marvel.

Speaker 3 (33:31):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (33:31):
But speaking of Star Wars, Kevin, we can head on
out of reaction theater. Actually did I do that? We'll
see you soon, buddy. Uh Is this is interesting if
you are a Fourth Wing fan. Star Wars didn't really
have a lot to announce a New York comic com
but they had some books to announce that are coming
out next year. The main one, Star Wars first Romanticy

(33:54):
coming out in twenty twenty six, Kevin.

Speaker 3 (33:58):
That's what it's called.

Speaker 1 (33:59):
Yes, a romance fantasy book. So Star Wars you know,
is a sci fi space saga, so counts.

Speaker 3 (34:05):
I guess. Okay, I mean that's cool.

Speaker 2 (34:08):
Hopefully that's that's a working title and not the name
of the book.

Speaker 1 (34:12):
So according to this, uh uh, Star Wars Eyes Like
Stars will be the first official Star Wars romance novel ever.
Do exist say?

Speaker 2 (34:26):
Because I know, I never I've never read it. I
don't know if you've read it. But there was like
a star Cross lovers book they did.

Speaker 1 (34:33):
It was like Across the Stars or something.

Speaker 2 (34:35):
Yeah, we're like one one guy was for the Empowered
on the lady and the woman was part of the
rebel Rebel and they were secretly you know, kind of Romeo
and Juliette type of thing. So, but that's not can anymore.
So this is this will make the first official.

Speaker 1 (34:51):
So according to this New York Times vesselling author Ashley
Postin's writing it, it will feature a couple in search
of their happily ever after in the galaxy far far away.
It'll be set a year and a half before Star
Wars the Force awakens, which is pretty cool. This is
maybe get some first order stuff in there. It'll feature
all new characters, a new artifact, and the fearsome first

(35:11):
order coming out summer twenty twenty six. So hey, if
you're looking for a book that you finished on next storm,
you got this next year and I'm going to make
Sauce read it. It's a romanticy book.

Speaker 2 (35:22):
Well, I will say right now, some of my favorite
romance in the Star Universe is Maren and Calcasts.

Speaker 3 (35:26):
I'm sorry, it's.

Speaker 1 (35:27):
Good speaking of calcastis did you see all the test
footage Cameron Monahan did for Tronto Areas this weekend? Ah?
He should have been the lead of the franchise.

Speaker 2 (35:34):
Damn it, he can do it, like he totally has
a leading man capability I feel like.

Speaker 1 (35:42):
And then also potentially at some point coming out next year,
there will be a dual Ahmed Best comic line because
it'll be a jar Jar based comic book series, with
Caller and Beck also being in the comic. So that
would be real cool to s these two characters interacting.

Speaker 3 (36:00):
I'm at best option. It's awesome.

Speaker 1 (36:01):
Hell yeah, and he's writing it, so that's really cool.
Good for him.

Speaker 2 (36:05):
I still think maybe you don't need a whole series,
but uh, I just came out of my mind with
the name is Jella character again Keller and Beck. I
wanted a calerin beck short about how he knew to
save Gogu.

Speaker 1 (36:17):
Well, I mean that's the thing is remember in the
last season of Mando and Grogu, which seemed like us
forever ago, uh that we did have a couple of
flashbacks throughout the episodes, really like, you know, how Grogu
escaped Order sixty six, and we're all like, all right,
next season, tell us what happened to get him into
that damn pod by himself? What happened Keller and Beck.
I assume we find that out in the movie, but

(36:39):
that that's good. The movie is gonna be an interesting
thing because it's like, all right, are you catering this
to the Star Wars fans? Is this the Disney Plus
payoff movie where you gotta watch all four seasons and
then you can watch this. It's a whole thing, fair.

Speaker 2 (36:52):
Man, because there's no reason why this can even though
they have releasts in theater, there's no reasony they probably
couldn't be a Disney Plus movie.

Speaker 3 (36:59):
You know what I mean they're doing is gonna want
to make money.

Speaker 2 (37:01):
Well, we still make at least two to three hundred
million dollars, but you know it's not gonna make even
even though the new quals aren't well received, they all
made a billion dollars.

Speaker 3 (37:12):
They all made money, that is true.

Speaker 1 (37:14):
And then just two quick hitters out of New York
Comic Con. We know of third Mortal Kombat movie is
officially in the works, even though the second one isn't
even out yet. That's great but interesting, so we'll see
what happens. I don't even know the second one is
gonna be good. It got moved because one of our
Brothers things that can make money. But Disney thought Trump

(37:36):
would make money. But it's not this weekend.

Speaker 3 (37:38):
So it's number one movie in Amor.

Speaker 1 (37:40):
All right, Well that's sure, and we officially know Invincible
season four it's in its endgame because in season four
we're coming out March twenty twenty six. Great love it
just have the episodes all come out week to week
to week to week. We always have to pray for
that they show unfortunately, uh, and we know Lee pay
from foundation from a bunch of stuff. We'll be playing

(38:03):
the villain Thrag, who's kind of on the level of
a Thanos Doctor Doom level, an endgame villain.

Speaker 3 (38:11):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (38:11):
For the Invincible series.

Speaker 2 (38:14):
Ali Pigs. First, I was always think he's a country star.
He has a very country star and then I don't
feel like he should be as young as he is.
He's only forty six.

Speaker 1 (38:23):
And you're like, you look so young, though, but you
look even younger than that, And.

Speaker 3 (38:27):
I feel like he's had a whole career beween not
paying attention to him because he's like a fantastic actor
that I've only learned about in the past five years.

Speaker 1 (38:36):
You know, it's okay, you just gotta watch Foundation and
uh was it Pushing Daisies? I think was the show
he was in back in the day. He was He's Ronan.
There you go, how to get it?

Speaker 3 (38:51):
That's right?

Speaker 1 (38:53):
Yes, But now we've gotten the New York Comic Con
news out of the way, it's time to talk about
the end of Peacemaker, potentially as we know it. So
let's break it out. David Perry said, Pushing Daisies's peak,

(39:13):
don't sleep on. It's probably on Hulu.

Speaker 3 (39:16):
Telling you put to tape. Perry, where the aggirl card?
This side conversation going on in chat now?

Speaker 2 (39:23):
I'm telling you I always say it tasts like the
Donald's uiced to tast swinger kids.

Speaker 1 (39:28):
There you go. Uh so this is gonna be full spoiler.
So if you haven't watched Peacemaker's season finale, maybe positive
come back to us, come hang out with us, because
it is a spoilery episode. But we'll say why. Uh
some of us might not be happy about how it ended.
Uh so three two one, there's your break. Episode eight

(39:48):
was called Phil Nelson. It was essentially an hour long
hour and five minutes or eight minutes or something like that.
But Kevin, before we get full spoilery. What do you
thin think about the episode? In general? I guess about
the this specific episode.

Speaker 3 (40:10):
This, this this man.

Speaker 2 (40:13):
I was on board for it, probably the first I
want to say, half hour, and then somewhere around the
second musical act, I was like, Okay.

Speaker 3 (40:20):
What are we doing here? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (40:22):
What are we doing?

Speaker 4 (40:25):
Overall?

Speaker 2 (40:25):
I think it's a good season. This season was about
character building. I'm fine with last see I said. Last
season was more fast and furious baltimopall action, which was great.
The season was more about peacemaker Chris finding what it
means to be wanted and loved, and I'm fine with that.
I'm fine with that. But this this didn't feel like
a season, not on a series finale. It felt like

(40:47):
episode nine.

Speaker 1 (40:48):
It felt like more of a mid season finale more
than anything.

Speaker 3 (40:51):
You know, Yeah, I didn't feel like anything ended. Nothing
was resolved. Really. We saw the thought of a new organization.
We'll get to that.

Speaker 2 (41:00):
We saw his friends pulled him out of his depression,
which is that's great with some friends before the flashback
with him and hardcore about what happened that night, I
thought was sweet, But I didn't need to musical acts.
It's like you know sometimes on like you know, late
night shows that the guests will do two.

Speaker 1 (41:21):
Songs one, So I don't stick around for a second
song in SNL, get to the one song we can
update that. I go to bed.

Speaker 3 (41:30):
I see I need the one song that's on top
ten chart to be side.

Speaker 2 (41:32):
I don't need to be sad. I thought the character
growth of Frick Flagg was not correct. I feel like
he just veered for no reason at all. I now,
this is this is going back Superman for me. I
didn't like let exclude at all and Superman I thought
they were just all very yeah, and it continued to

(41:58):
this and I hate it even more, like this wasn't good.

Speaker 3 (42:04):
For some reason. Two metals is a good guy now
just we kind of saw the growth with There was.

Speaker 1 (42:10):
A lot of stuff that I felt like was left
on the cutt and floor that should have been in there,
and then a musical act should have been cut instead, and.

Speaker 3 (42:18):
Maybe that could have warranted This is this is nine episodes? Right? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (42:22):
Yes?

Speaker 3 (42:23):
Maybe maybe maybe ten?

Speaker 2 (42:24):
Maybe maybe Episode nine is fifty five minutes, Episode ten
is thirty seven. Again, I don't know, but I uh
I do text Hoodie on Friday morning night, I'm so
mad about.

Speaker 1 (42:36):
Yeah, I stayed up for this. This is the first
time I actually watched it live. I never watched shows
like this live anymore, just because they're on at nine.
I'm like, I got to sleep. I don't know how
long this episode is gonna be. But I actually stayed up,
and by the time it ended, I told him more.
I was like, I shouldn't have done that. I shouldn't
have done that. I pretty much I pretty much agree

(42:57):
with you too. I felt like this was we were
finish line right there. Really was pretty set up pretty
to be done pretty well, and we stumbled real hard
at the finale to end it. And it sucks because
I think promotional promotional wise, James Gunn kind of was like, oh, six, seven, eight,

(43:19):
we all we've talked about for a couple of weeks.
Now those are the episodes. Six and eight be my favorite,
and now we've seen the episodes, you can understand, all right.

Speaker 3 (43:27):
Cool.

Speaker 1 (43:28):
Six was really good. Seven, Uh was a building point.
This was very character driven, heavy, which we kind of said.
The first five episodes were very directed well, very act
or I don't know, directed well, acted very well, very
good scenes, but story wise, it was.

Speaker 3 (43:45):
Just very Hey, we gotta wrap this up.

Speaker 1 (43:47):
We got a build up for super Ran two next
year because or Supergirl whatever else is next year, which
kind of sucks. And I really think it was interesting,
And I told you on Thursday's episode like Peacemaker season
two was breaking into pop culture zeitgeist of being like
like they played the music, they played Foxy SXAM at

(44:07):
the Capitol's game, which I never heard them like stuff
like that at the Capitol's game. Like the dance was in.
It was in Fortnite. That was the whole thing.

Speaker 3 (44:15):
They fixed it.

Speaker 1 (44:17):
Well, yeah, but it's stupid now. It's not even the
dance anymore. It was in like I think everyone was
really rallying. I think you know, Peacemaker season two was
doing very well in Rotten Tomatoes and and the numbers
was great and his finale it's got like a sixty
and Rodomana, which isn't bad, but overall, compared to the
rest of episode, is probably definitely the weakest episode this season.

(44:39):
And not how I wanted to show Slash story to
end for now because it sucks because it's like, all right, well,
we'll see what happens.

Speaker 2 (44:48):
This episode felt more like instead of a narrative driving
an entire season, and then you get to that point
where this is what the result is. Kind of like
Daredevil had narrative of king and not take over the
final take over the city the entire season, and then
about episode he did it because now he has the
political prisoners, they're not gonna write anything bad about him.
He's in total control. And that was the end of

(45:09):
the season. The guy didn't win, but that was the
end of the season that he told him total control.
This one felt like this happened, and then this happened,
Then this happened happened.

Speaker 1 (45:18):
And we'll explain the things we think. We're like, well
what happened when we get to the plot real quick.
But I had a point and I forgot I was
gonna say, oh this is I've I said it multiple
times a couple of people this weekend. Is this Peacemaker
Season two is also just a victim of creatives not
knowing how to tee up next season or finish up

(45:42):
and give some finality towards the season. Because I feel
like we're very in the era right now of Marvel Zombies.
A lot of the Marvel shows of like, hey, they're ended.
We're not sure where's gonna get a second season or
next the next season or this is it? Uh, and
so the final ally's kind of the weakness because they
don't know how to give some finality. But maybe tee

(46:04):
it up or not tee it up at all, you know.

Speaker 3 (46:07):
I think also a victim of James Gunn doing too much.

Speaker 1 (46:10):
Yeah, because he did this, the Creature, Commandos, and Superman
all pretty much within the same window to a degree.

Speaker 3 (46:17):
I mean, James gun is really good. We love Guardians.
He did the Guardian short. I believes as well. That
was great.

Speaker 2 (46:25):
He's really good when he focuses in on one thing.
I hope he learns that that needs to be somebody
that he deems is just as good as he is.

Speaker 1 (46:33):
Hey, you write this, Yes, you're in charge of checkmate
you Yeah? Because and and that's I agree with you.
I think, really it is looking at Marvel to a degree,
is all right? Cool? You had ant Man was Peyton Reed.
He did all three of the ant Man movies. You know,
you know Dessin Daniel Creighton was really just the Shawn

(46:54):
Chee guy. Now he's doing Spider Man obviously, but you
had the same guy. Did all three Spider Man. We's
I forgot his name off the top of my head.

Speaker 3 (47:01):
Uh, John Jonathan something he did. He did the Star
Wars show.

Speaker 1 (47:06):
Yes, you had Jon Favreau for the degree that was
doing the Ironman movies. You had the Russo's doing the
Captain American movies. I think that's the way you need
to go. Uh, especially, but I think that's just the
transition era we are with him being a creative with
direct input versus a head of creative of all right,
you have to, like you said, trust the people you
need to trust. And I think for him and hey,

(47:29):
this is how to get the DCU out of the
gates because remember Marvel was really John Favreau, John Favreau,
John Favreau, you know, to get Iron Man out and
then obviously, uh the Avengers director Joss.

Speaker 3 (47:40):
Whedon I'm talking about anyway, so interesting going forward.

Speaker 1 (47:45):
But I do think this the finale left the sour
taste in a lot of a lot of people's mouths,
which it shouldn't have done.

Speaker 2 (47:50):
Right now, that's the issue with the finale. Leading the
Man tomorrow, I'm like, what, why, why is this fine?
Leading the Supergirl that's the best big thing you're doing, Like,
why are we skipping Supergirl?

Speaker 3 (47:59):
I don't. I don't know.

Speaker 1 (48:00):
Well, and that's the thing. Super Girl's got a different director,
so we'll see how that goes. Uh, and Clay faces
a different director, which I might explain something, but let's
get in on the plot and we'll explain some things
and why kind of things went wrong. But it starts
off with a flashback where had a big belly Burger
hardcore and Chris Peacemaker going it is the night there
on the boat they're eating dinner being real cute. I

(48:23):
thought the scene is really great. That a lot cast
in phenomenal. This episode is just the story that didn't
do well.

Speaker 3 (48:31):
So Formerck is a great John's seen that again. I
feel like leveled up.

Speaker 1 (48:34):
Daniel Brooks killed it every scene she was in this episode.

Speaker 2 (48:39):
Even again I don't know her real name, but hardoars
again another fantastic performance, especially when she will get to
what she's doing to work with with Argust. Nothing as
far as what the actors had to say and do,
it's bad. It was just a story kind of Walke
main Spider Man two Andrew Garfield was great.

Speaker 3 (48:58):
Spider Man is a bad movie, yeah.

Speaker 1 (49:01):
But Eventually, you know it is a not date night,
but date night because they do go out. They're walking
into town, they stumble upon a rock cruise happening. Nelson
is performing, which is what the episode's named after. Hardcore
and Chris go on the boat. We hear Nelson perform
a full lass song with multiple guns, and You're like,

(49:23):
this has given me nothing because I do not care
about this type of music. James, Gunny, you did not
win me over with Nelson.

Speaker 3 (49:29):
Okay, that's the other thing.

Speaker 2 (49:32):
I don't know what the generational gap of Nelson is,
but I'm pretty sure it's not millennials.

Speaker 1 (49:37):
Yeah, that is a gen X thing. But eventually Chris
and Harcore do kiss, results in Hardcore leaving. That was
the moment that caused everything go wrong. Kind of summing
up things because it was kind of split up in
two parts. And then present day we find out Chris
is in prison refusing to see the Elemontree kids but
out of bio and Vigilante managed at of bio convinces Vigilante, Hey,

(50:00):
if you were Chris's best friend, you would do this.

Speaker 3 (50:02):
I guess you're not.

Speaker 1 (50:03):
Bituallyually, he says, all right, here's all the money. They
use it to bail Chris, but he refuses to see everybody.
While this is going on, Argus is investigating the doors
in the Quantum Unfolding chamber where multiple Argust agents are killed.
In the candy Land parody we got I think it
was there was a zombie world and then there was
just an endless space world which might have been with

(50:26):
the other end of the portal from Superman Will ended
up into.

Speaker 3 (50:30):
We were promised a big cameo in this episode, and
there was none. I'm sorry, not big cameo.

Speaker 1 (50:41):
Eventually we cut to while this is going on, Parcour
and Conomos are like, hey, we need to do something,
We need to make some change. Uh. We check in
as Economos is kind of watching over eagerly, sad and
depressed in the closet. I'm like, that's Teddy More and
I are away.

Speaker 3 (50:59):
That is Cody right now because nobody's home to work.

Speaker 1 (51:02):
Yeah, like that is that is very dog coding right there.
They find out no one knows where Peacemaker went, but
they do eventually find out that Bordeaux, kind of being
disillusioned now with Rick Flagg Senior, is willing to team
up with them to find the tracker from the suicide
squad that is still in Peacemaker's head, which was which

(51:24):
is cool, Like, all right, they never took it off.
That's kind of cool. While this is going on, eventually
they do find a habital dimension, so we seems uh,
and they name it Salvation, which is a big deal
in the comics. It is a big run of comic
lines of you know, the same planet being a prison
colony essentially. Yeah, so definitely check that out if you can.

(51:47):
Obviously want to involve Joker or like Lux if we agree,
But that is kind of the main thing from this
season that is going taking place forward in the DCU,
so we'll find that out. Rick Flagg Senior, we also
see becomes more and more tight with the Lex Bunch,
the Lex crew, and all of a sudden, he's very acting,

(52:07):
very different. He's taking drugs. He's like, let's go get dinner,
let's celebrate.

Speaker 3 (52:11):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (52:11):
The US government does approve Salvation, which is cool. We
found out behind the scenes that they filmed that scene
immediately after because Superman, because they had the set and like, hey,
let's just film the scene in here.

Speaker 3 (52:21):
Why not? Cool?

Speaker 2 (52:23):
I I hated everything about the way Rick Flags became
chums with with with the Lexis crew and then so died,
like say, doing drugs with him. What is what is
happening right now? This is not flaw even a little Bitmandals.

Speaker 1 (52:37):
I watched and it was interesting because, yeah, a lot
of people saying, you know, we had Rick Flagg Senior
introduced really in Creature Commandos, you know, him failing to
a degree and he did break his back because of
Clay Face. Uh, but you know, kind of being the
main character of Creature Commandos to being kind of a
neutral character of a government neutral character and super Man

(53:00):
to being all right, he just downfalled completely in this Uh.
And it's really this episode teem him up to be
an antagonist, maybe not a villain, but it is interesting. Nonetheless,
I thought at some point all this was going on
throughout the episode, I was like, Okay, maybe lex did
something to him, that's why he's acting differently, or oh
it's Clay Face acting.

Speaker 3 (53:21):
Like him or something.

Speaker 1 (53:22):
But no, as far as we know, so we'll find
out as it is right now.

Speaker 3 (53:28):
But everyone quits argus. Uh.

Speaker 1 (53:31):
The kids do head to the motel where they find
where Chris is staying. They tell him that he's loved
and appreciate. Really good acting on everybody's part here hardcore
does tell Chris the night on the boat was meaningful
or her as well. At of Bio did patch things
with her ex which was which was was also really
good scene both for their actresses parts too.

Speaker 3 (53:52):
That should have been in the episode before they went
to the uh Earth act something.

Speaker 1 (53:56):
Though yeah kind of just was here not necessarily im
pertinent to the plot of this episode, but overall this
was a very out of bio carrying scenes episode. And
this is where a montage begins where one week later,
a real quick ass montage happens, like wait, is this

(54:17):
the end? Or this is like something bad's gonna happen
and we still got like twenty minutes left, so I
don't like looking how to see how much time is
left in an episode end where it ends. But eventually,
while while another music scene of Foxy Sussam, which Kevin
called out last week flawlessly, so Kevin, I thought it
was going to.

Speaker 2 (54:37):
Be doing a fight though or something or yeah, I
don't know, a montage which gets that wasn't.

Speaker 1 (54:43):
My Foxy Suzann performs obviously the song from the theme
song from the show.

Speaker 3 (54:50):
It is interesting this We find out that.

Speaker 1 (54:54):
Fox Foxy Suzam is actually a hardcore band, and it's
her introducing Chris to it because she knows all the
words and he's kind of mumbling, which an interesting to
pay attention to it. But eventually the group the Eleven
Street Kids have started a new agency called Checkmate, alongside
Bordeaux Flurry and Judo Master, the spy agency. I had
to Bio wanted the entire time, things are going great.

(55:14):
We thought, hey, all right, things are on a good note. However,
Chris is kidnapped by Rick Flagg Senior, trapped in Salvation
door closes and we find out there's more than meets
the eye. It's Salvation.

Speaker 3 (55:29):
Cut the black.

Speaker 1 (55:30):
And then the end credit scene was not good because
I was all right, give me something, No, here's another joke, Okay,
that's not what I wanted to.

Speaker 2 (55:39):
Just the fact that we had two musical performances in
this show in this episode was just like, clearly, clearly
you ran out of the pages something.

Speaker 3 (55:48):
I'm not a writer.

Speaker 2 (55:49):
I feel like there's a writer in me if if
I had the money to nurture it in a class
something like that. But it just felt like they ran
out of stuff to do and they added another montage
do it. I thought there was something they could have
did if because in the beginning of the episode, when
out of the Body is trying to get Vigilanta used
his money about Peacemaker talks about how blood money makes

(56:12):
it cursed. If they had used that somehow to drive
to what happened at the end, I think I could
have been a little more forgiving with this episode.

Speaker 3 (56:20):
Yeah, it just kind of happened.

Speaker 1 (56:22):
And I think the other thing is that, like the
montage would have been great, but I feel like this
needed some finality to it. This was really all right,
and then all right, we'll see at Supran too, where
potentially Peacemaker will look like a caveman, most likely if
John Cena does a cameo, you know.

Speaker 2 (56:41):
Yeah, and again, like the Salvation Run again is seven
intray series. It came out, I think even before that's
the final crisis.

Speaker 3 (56:50):
It's just from O. Wait, it's kind of a deep cut.

Speaker 2 (56:53):
And this was my worry about James Gunn helming the
DC universe is that he wanted to get to the
deep cut stuff before he plays the hits. I'm sure
this will be fine, and people that have loved this
run are probably gonna have a blast with it. But like, again,
why are we setting up Man of Tomorrow sees Man

(57:14):
two before Supergirl?

Speaker 3 (57:16):
I just don't get that. And then also before all that,
who's Batman with Wonder Woman? We have Salvation though, but
just just a lot, you know what I mean?

Speaker 1 (57:25):
Yeah, and I think it really is all right, here's
just the concept, all right, you can read it and
then you'll eventually find out what it is in Man
of Tomorrow. But I feel like also Checkmate being introduced cool.

Speaker 3 (57:36):
Great.

Speaker 1 (57:37):
I don't know anything about it, you know, I don't
know deep Laura, stuff like that.

Speaker 3 (57:42):
DC. I can't remember if they were or not. What
do you say?

Speaker 1 (57:44):
I sorry, he broke up there.

Speaker 3 (57:46):
I'm sorry. Were they in the DC CWDC because there
were a lot of agenciasons.

Speaker 1 (57:49):
No, it's mostly just argusts and divisions of our due
degree I.

Speaker 3 (57:53):
Could remember, But I think that's cool.

Speaker 1 (57:56):
James Gunton has pretty much said Peacemakers season three doesn't exist,
but it'll the characters will move on in the world.
I'm assuming a Checkmate show to a degree. I just
hope you know this cast of characters is really good
and it's funny I listened to this is the first
time I listened to the Peacemaker podcast. The like the
after show podcast, and like the actors really like working

(58:18):
with each other. So it's gonna suck when it's like, hey,
economos in Hardcore, you guys are gonna pop up in
Supergirl Vigilante. You might pop up in Man of Tomorrow.
But we're not doing the show again, So I don't
know what's gonna happen. Obviously HBO and Warner Brothers kind
of it's all up in the air, But I mean
for the show to do really good Bookoo numbers up

(58:40):
until the finale, it'll be interesting to see what happens.
We probably won't know until January, most likely because New
York Comic Con just happened. But you never know for
the immediate future of what's next, though, because we always
love talking about what's next after we finish the show
and what's get excited for. So, like keV said, Supergirl
is the next thing. June twenty sixth, twenty twenty six.

(59:02):
As of right now, obviously, clay Face is slated for
September eleventh, twenty twenty six. And then you have Lanterns
the TV show coming out early twenty twenty six as well.
No date on that right now. I assume because The
Night of the Seven Kingdoms comes out in January that
this will probably be like the April the show, most

(59:24):
likely Lanterns.

Speaker 3 (59:27):
I'm excited for Lanterns. I like the content of Lanterns.

Speaker 2 (59:30):
I think they said they're gonna be an investigating in
Eben Sirr's death something like that. Evan, Sorry, was the
lantern before hal Jordan and the comics Originally? That makes
me excited, But it's funny. We reviewed so much comic book,
television and movie stuff. I don't remember being this episode finally.

Speaker 3 (59:48):
In a long time.

Speaker 1 (59:49):
Yeah, I think long time. I think a lot of
the Marvel finales, like we've said, we're like, ah, that's
not how I would have ended it. It has been
a lot of things like Agathol, we're like, oh, she
shouldn't have died, you know, like we wanted her to
live in some form, but like I know, we hated
the Sam Jackson show Secret Invasion.

Speaker 3 (01:00:07):
Oh, but that's even hope for that, but didn't go
as long as The Peacemaker because Peacemaker was on a
roll for like the last yeah, four or five weeks.

Speaker 1 (01:00:16):
And it is interesting like when you think about, all right,
if we're doing a DCU in review ranking, I would
still put Peacemaker because we kind of group both seasons
as a whole together as the top DCU thing, right now,
overall just of the journey. Obviously the destination wasn't worth
worth it. Yeah, but it'll be interesting going forward, like

(01:00:36):
all right, was this the smart move the end with
Peacemaker because James Guns has said, oh yeah, we want
it to be where you know, no one knew the
Guardians until James Gun you know, put him in the movies,
and I mean same things for Peacemaker. No one who
Peacemaker was till the Suicide Squad, which I guess that's
Cannon in DCU as well. But I think you don't

(01:00:57):
want to drop momentum on that because Guardians became a
household because there was consistency with the movie art two years,
here's another one, three years, here's another one.

Speaker 2 (01:01:04):
You know, I think because I'm pretty sure John seen
that after he's done in December, he probably playing cards.

Speaker 1 (01:01:11):
Full yeah, And I think especially after this of like
all right, like he's got the acting chops. You know,
we don't have to put him just on prime video
movie Ricky Stanicki in Heads of State.

Speaker 2 (01:01:21):
Yeah yeah, and again, even if he is going to
be in Mana tomorrow, I feel like two years is
way too long.

Speaker 3 (01:01:29):
As the Peacemaker again, yeah, keep on with the or
the Eleven Street of Kids.

Speaker 2 (01:01:36):
I can see a Checkmate show happening, but it has
to be where it's Peacemaker that needs to be to
be focused the seasons because he's basically been kidnapped and
it's gone. And the other thing they made mad about
the show is like they basically forged Peacemakers signature, but
it never showed how or why or who.

Speaker 1 (01:01:54):
He's other interesting thing is the Waller series kind of
been in development according to James, though it's been in development.
Hell uh so it'll be inter to see if that
gets folded into the Checkmate show. Of the group is
looking for Peacemaker, maybe it's Waller takes control over Checkmate
instead of Argust to a degree. That would make sense

(01:02:14):
if they just want to fold them together, because I
think where we're at right now, if Rick Flagg Senior
is the antagonist villain of Argus. You don't need Waller
also in there.

Speaker 2 (01:02:25):
You know, I think I want to ask you, dude,
do you think the multiverse offf has happened too fast?

Speaker 1 (01:02:32):
No, because really it really hasn't been. I mean, obviously
we had Peacemaker and two Peacemakers, but we haven't really
explored it. A lot of like our here's Peacemaker from
fifty years ago, here's Peacemaker from ten years ago. It
was our here's the one peace maker. That's it. Everything
else has been here's a portal here, and here's a
world that doesn't really important, you know, I like, here's

(01:02:54):
the candy Land world, not really important? You know?

Speaker 3 (01:02:57):
Yeah, I do want if they everyone reveal like what alien?
What alien? I don't know? Alien planet has this device
that well, and that's the thing.

Speaker 1 (01:03:08):
A lot of people thinking, all right, this is going
to tee up Man of Tomorrow with a brainiac, because
that's where we think we're going, at least right now.
But Salvation in the comics has typically been a New
Gods thing, so dark Side and all those type of
characters that we kind of don't know about really fully, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:03:26):
They touched on the New Gods in the universe, and
they do it in a way that's very palatable.

Speaker 3 (01:03:31):
But man, you talk the new Gods on the DC.

Speaker 2 (01:03:35):
What the Celestio's on a marble, It's a whole other
thing of comic books, space opera that it's like all
that's going on while you know, Spider Man's just being
up a mugger in an alley.

Speaker 3 (01:03:45):
That's a lot.

Speaker 1 (01:03:48):
So obviously the time hotel, I would assume we get
some sort of presentation from DC in the near future
just to say, hey, all right, next year, here's what
we got. Here's a Zebra World trailer, here's a Lanterns trailer,
and all that good stuff. I would not assume Lanterns
has any connecting piece to this at all. It's its

(01:04:08):
own things, got its own director. Supergirl probably not as well.
Clay Face also probably as well. So really, twenty twenty
seven when we can expect to follow up truly to
all this type of stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:04:21):
Yeah, I'm a superl I can take place on Earth fright,
and not until like the last part of the whole
adventure out in space, until she comes back to Earth.

Speaker 1 (01:04:29):
But I am excited for Lanterns. I think that's gonna
be cool and that's gonna be a vibe show and
if anything, I mean that's the immediate next thing. Creature
Commando season two is also somewhere there as well. That'll
that'll be interesting because that'll kind of be payoff of
this too. Not more time to watch that now, Yeah,
because you're like, all right, like a real jerk and
completely different than you wanted season one. Lanterns will make

(01:04:51):
everyone want to buy a green lantern ring, which would
be cool. That's all I want is make put it out,
give me a little Hasbro Black series or whatever that
the line is gonna be callsplays and we can put
streetwear over our green lantern costumes because it makes it
edgy and cool. Exactly, damn Sree. But let us know

(01:05:13):
what you thought about Peacemaker season two. Did you like
it overall as a whole? Did you hate the finale
like we did? If not, hey, that's okay. We always
love different opinions, but this time, Kevin and I aligned
on the thoughts on this show. We have pretty much
the majority of world.

Speaker 3 (01:05:28):
So I was reading.

Speaker 2 (01:05:31):
I told us, see what the world is thinking about,
even though on Twitter is a terrible space, but I
wanted went to Patrick has went the latest.

Speaker 3 (01:05:37):
I was like, wow, I.

Speaker 1 (01:05:40):
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(01:06:22):
I cannot do. Soon after watching it the first.

Speaker 3 (01:06:25):
Time, Great Halloween, watching the best all time.

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Hoodie and I'm kidding. And you've officially listened to this
Peacemaker episode.

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