November 28, 2025 • 9 mins
On this episode of The Thought Shower, Intern John talks Thanksgiving, and what makes a bad boss
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
And a Happy Friday. Friend.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
Welcome to a thaw shower. Intern John is my name.
Hopefully I had a fantastic Thanksgiving hopefully or if you're
doing Black Friday today, although I feel like Black Friday
doesn't quite have the luster that it once did. I
remember back when I was in Minneapolis Soon Radio we
did a bit on a Black Friday, and it was
one of the Xbox or PlayStation releases where this is
(00:23):
back when people would camp out on Black Friday, Yeah,
midnight yo, camp out of Target, best Buy wherever. We
did a bit where they sent me to go and
cut people in line at best Buy, and so I
would walk to the front of line and just kind
of like Oopsie's and seek my way in. In hindsight,
it could have gone very badly. I could have been
(00:43):
stab shot.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
Whatever. I looked back and went, how stupid of me
to agree to that.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
But also they gave me like Taco Bell gift cards
to like get myself out of trouble. We also did
a bit where I had Thanksgiving dinner in the back
of a Mayflower moving so think of like a moving van.
They put a table, put a full on Thanksgiving feast.
I had to have dinner in the moving van while
it was moving, and I look back and going that
(01:09):
could have ended poorly. You know, different times, baby, But
here we are. We're alive, we're thriving. My plan today,
you're gonna go the Cavs game later. That's me a
lot of fun and then hopefully it's kind of relaxed
this weekend. Like I mentioned earlier in the previous podcast,
this is kind of the final sprint for us as
far as like you know, jingle Ball comes and the
holidays come, and for the radio show like holidays me.
(01:32):
I'm sure it's the same for you too. We got
to do extra work in order to get off work.
It's not like that workload goes to somebody else. We
still got to do that workload, just in a shorter
mound of time, if that makes sense. And my complaining
note coud be far worse blast to do this, certainly.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
But Thanksgiving it was nice.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
It was nice last week being able to do Thanksgiving
my parents and my nephew, which is very exciting, and
you get a chance to hang with friends. This week
was a lot of fun. Let me get to this
for your Friday. The boss phrases that rub everyone the
wrong way. And I'd like to think that most people
that say this stuff don't realize or sound like douchers.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
But then again, what do I know?
Speaker 2 (02:09):
Starting with they say you should have known better, they
say it implies that the oversight of mistake is a
reflection someone's personal intelligence rather than a simple error. Yeah,
I think that's fair. If you make a mistake and
I'm so sorry, Well you should have known better, all right? Well,
fun fact, if I knew better, I probably wouldn't have
(02:31):
made the mistake, you know what I mean, I would
want to avoid this situation. That's kind of like the
adage of when you bump into a piece of furniture,
like ran your leg in the side of the bed,
and somebody get you know, ow, somebody goes careful. Hey, thanks, Hey,
thanks a lot for that. Really appreciate it because I
said so. This classic power phrase is offen associated with
(02:54):
frustrated parents trying to debate with their children, and the
workplace comes off as being authoritarian and dismissive, killing any
potential for meaningful dialogue. I think that's fair, I think,
especially if you are talking to a boss. And luckily,
I don't think i've ever had somebody say it to me,
I would be I would probably not go to you again,
(03:15):
you know what I mean? Like that in that case,
then it's like, if we're not going to collaborate, I'd
rather just do it my way and then ask for forgiveness.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
Yeah, I mean, I do think like people.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
Don't realize that where it's like if you shut somebody
down enough, eventually there's not gonna go to you. Like
eventually they're not gonna go to you for advice or
your opinion or your insight. They just won't. If somebody
drops the that's not my problem. I don't like that
they say. It's just a lack of empathy and reluctance
(03:45):
to contribute to a team effort, which are not qualities
anyone appreciates, and a colleague or a leader it creates
and every person for themselves culture. I think that, Yeah,
unless the course is something where you warned somebody that
this is gonna happen, like you warned like, hey, I
don't know the work cars out of gas, needs to
get filled up and it runs out of gas, and
(04:06):
it's like, hey, yeah, that's not my problem, like I
told you how things are gonna go one hundred percent
if they say you need to be more like blank
and cert colleague. Here, they say comparing team members to
each other creates unnecessary competition and resentment. It suggests that
individual strengths are less value than being conforming to a
particular standard. I've never had this happen either. And again
(04:29):
I think that I am really good at internalizing anything
to motivation, you know what I mean. If somebody was like, hey,
you need be more about like this person doing radio,
I would be like, okay, all right, cool, I'm just
gonna keep doing to my way though I'm a little
bit stubborn sometimes, you know what I mean, kind of
like doing things my way. If they say I don't
(04:52):
have time for this, I don't like this one, they say,
this phrase signals that whatever is being discussed is of
little importance to you, which can be disheartening of those
seeking your input or assistance.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
Yeah. Again, that to me goes back to then like
why am I going to you? Period?
Speaker 2 (05:07):
If you quote unquote don't have time for something, I'm
not gonna waste my time ever again asking you and
again like for me, my patience isn't the my strongest attribute. However,
I'm not gonna keep going back, though, because I don't
want to be made to feel dumb.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
If there's nothing worse that when you.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
Finally like, okay, I want to know what, I'm gonna
try to be more collaborative. I'm gonna ask this person
for their input and they drop something dumb like that
where it's like, hey, this is the exact reason why
I don't ever ask you for your opinion on anything.
You don't have time for this, all right, Well, if
it's done wrong later, then you can't complain, you know,
if they say you're doing it wrong.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
Blunt and patronize in this phrase immediately puts people on
the defensive, turn a learning opportunity into a confrontation, undercuts confidence,
and discourages experimentation and risk taking, which are a viled innovation.
I try to be better at that, like with the
show obviously too, Like I know how I like things done. However,
if somebody on the show has a better idea for
(06:08):
doing something to me, it's like great, especially if it's
something where it's like it doesn't affect me, Like let's
just say, like you know, Eric Hoodie and sever are
always put together podcast and maybe I have a certain
way that I would do it right.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
But if they have a.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
Better way of doing it, it's easier for them and
still gets the podcast up.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
And I can't tell a difference listening. What do I care?
You know what I mean? Like, if they find a
better way of doing it, I think that's fine.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
I think so many times, like bigger scale obviously, like
bosses get so disconnected to how their workers are that
like they don't really know the struggles of the everyday office.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
I think that happens all the time.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
If they say you're overreacting, They say this phrase dismisses
emotions and makes people feel like their feelings are invalid
or irrational. It's a sure fire away to escalate situation
rather than diffuse it, they say. People often react by
shutting down or becoming defensive. Again, I think at this
point then, like you can't be a boss and nobody
comes to with any problems. Also, if nobody's coming to
(07:10):
you with any problems as a boss, it's not because
things are perfect, that's not it. It's because they don't
want to tell you what's going on, you know what
I mean? Like any boss that thinks, like, oh, there's
no issues you don't know, bro, you don't know. If
they say I don't care how you do it, they
say this phrase suggest the process and people involved are
(07:31):
relevant as long as the end result is achieved. It
can lead to careless shortcuts and lack of accountability, undermining
the quality of work. I also think to me, yeah,
that to me is like if I bring something up
and somebody goes, I don't care how you get done,
That to me implies I probably brought a problem to
you and you just don't care enough.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (07:51):
Like, okay, so it doesn't matter what issues don't bringing
to you. If I say, like the computer is slow,
I don't care how you get done. It's get it done, okay,
but we could get done better. I do believe wholeheartedly.
I think most people want to do a good job.
I mean that, I think most people want to do
a good job. So somebody isn't doing a good job,
they probably don't know it. You know, I don't want
(08:12):
to hear excuses.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
They say.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
This phrase dismisses any context or challenges that might have
impacted the performance, signally a lack of empathy. It closes
off dialogue and makes people feel unsupported and overwhelmed. Yeah,
I also think too, which is like we forget what
people are going through, you know what I mean, Like
we forget and like not to make this about me,
But my dad was diagnosed with cancer in uh March.
(08:35):
I didn't make that public until November, so for eight
months like that, obviously it's a huge stress on me.
And not to making it about me obviously, but like
you know, so you never quite know what somebody else
is going through or what's going on in their lives.
I think that's kind of like the human aspect of
it is like, yeah, obviously everybody's got deadlines, you want
things done, but there are things you can't control, you know.
(08:56):
And the last one is I'm not gonna repeat myself.
They say this phrase come off as dismissive and impatient,
suggesting that your time awards are more valuable than others.
Understanding it discourages further questions and make people feel unwelcome
to see clarification. Yeah, again, this goes back to like,
if you are gonna be this close off, you can't
be surprised when nobody goes to you for anything, you
know what I mean? Because I also think to me, like,
(09:19):
I think that's a problem too. If I'm asking for clarification,
You're like, I'm not gonna repeat myself, Okay, I just
want to do a good job, dude. Yeah, it's gonna
be the best boy can be. Look, I hope you
have a fantastic Black Friday. I'm thankful for you for
listening to the radio show, for listening to the podcast,
for following along everywhere. At intern Job Radio you can
binge the show podcast as well to search intern Johnny
(09:41):
Morning Show where ever gets your podcasts.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
I'll see you Monday Spots Shower
And a Happy Friday. Friend.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
Welcome to a thaw shower. Intern John is my name.
Hopefully I had a fantastic Thanksgiving hopefully or if you're
doing Black Friday today, although I feel like Black Friday
doesn't quite have the luster that it once did. I
remember back when I was in Minneapolis Soon Radio we
did a bit on a Black Friday, and it was
one of the Xbox or PlayStation releases where this is
(00:23):
back when people would camp out on Black Friday, Yeah,
midnight yo, camp out of Target, best Buy wherever. We
did a bit where they sent me to go and
cut people in line at best Buy, and so I
would walk to the front of line and just kind
of like Oopsie's and seek my way in. In hindsight,
it could have gone very badly. I could have been
(00:43):
stab shot.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
Whatever. I looked back and went, how stupid of me
to agree to that.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
But also they gave me like Taco Bell gift cards
to like get myself out of trouble. We also did
a bit where I had Thanksgiving dinner in the back
of a Mayflower moving so think of like a moving van.
They put a table, put a full on Thanksgiving feast.
I had to have dinner in the moving van while
it was moving, and I look back and going that
(01:09):
could have ended poorly. You know, different times, baby, But
here we are. We're alive, we're thriving. My plan today,
you're gonna go the Cavs game later. That's me a
lot of fun and then hopefully it's kind of relaxed
this weekend. Like I mentioned earlier in the previous podcast,
this is kind of the final sprint for us as
far as like you know, jingle Ball comes and the
holidays come, and for the radio show like holidays me.
(01:32):
I'm sure it's the same for you too. We got
to do extra work in order to get off work.
It's not like that workload goes to somebody else. We
still got to do that workload, just in a shorter
mound of time, if that makes sense. And my complaining
note coud be far worse blast to do this, certainly.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
But Thanksgiving it was nice.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
It was nice last week being able to do Thanksgiving
my parents and my nephew, which is very exciting, and
you get a chance to hang with friends. This week
was a lot of fun. Let me get to this
for your Friday. The boss phrases that rub everyone the
wrong way. And I'd like to think that most people
that say this stuff don't realize or sound like douchers.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
But then again, what do I know?
Speaker 2 (02:09):
Starting with they say you should have known better, they
say it implies that the oversight of mistake is a
reflection someone's personal intelligence rather than a simple error. Yeah,
I think that's fair. If you make a mistake and
I'm so sorry, Well you should have known better, all right? Well,
fun fact, if I knew better, I probably wouldn't have
(02:31):
made the mistake, you know what I mean, I would
want to avoid this situation. That's kind of like the
adage of when you bump into a piece of furniture,
like ran your leg in the side of the bed,
and somebody get you know, ow, somebody goes careful. Hey, thanks, Hey,
thanks a lot for that. Really appreciate it because I
said so. This classic power phrase is offen associated with
(02:54):
frustrated parents trying to debate with their children, and the
workplace comes off as being authoritarian and dismissive, killing any
potential for meaningful dialogue. I think that's fair, I think,
especially if you are talking to a boss. And luckily,
I don't think i've ever had somebody say it to me,
I would be I would probably not go to you again,
(03:15):
you know what I mean? Like that in that case,
then it's like, if we're not going to collaborate, I'd
rather just do it my way and then ask for forgiveness.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
Yeah, I mean, I do think like people.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
Don't realize that where it's like if you shut somebody
down enough, eventually there's not gonna go to you. Like
eventually they're not gonna go to you for advice or
your opinion or your insight. They just won't. If somebody
drops the that's not my problem. I don't like that
they say. It's just a lack of empathy and reluctance
(03:45):
to contribute to a team effort, which are not qualities
anyone appreciates, and a colleague or a leader it creates
and every person for themselves culture. I think that, Yeah,
unless the course is something where you warned somebody that
this is gonna happen, like you warned like, hey, I
don't know the work cars out of gas, needs to
get filled up and it runs out of gas, and
(04:06):
it's like, hey, yeah, that's not my problem, like I
told you how things are gonna go one hundred percent
if they say you need to be more like blank
and cert colleague. Here, they say comparing team members to
each other creates unnecessary competition and resentment. It suggests that
individual strengths are less value than being conforming to a
particular standard. I've never had this happen either. And again
(04:29):
I think that I am really good at internalizing anything
to motivation, you know what I mean. If somebody was like, hey,
you need be more about like this person doing radio,
I would be like, okay, all right, cool, I'm just
gonna keep doing to my way though I'm a little
bit stubborn sometimes, you know what I mean, kind of
like doing things my way. If they say I don't
(04:52):
have time for this, I don't like this one, they say,
this phrase signals that whatever is being discussed is of
little importance to you, which can be disheartening of those
seeking your input or assistance.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
Yeah. Again, that to me goes back to then like
why am I going to you? Period?
Speaker 2 (05:07):
If you quote unquote don't have time for something, I'm
not gonna waste my time ever again asking you and
again like for me, my patience isn't the my strongest attribute. However,
I'm not gonna keep going back, though, because I don't
want to be made to feel dumb.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
If there's nothing worse that when you.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
Finally like, okay, I want to know what, I'm gonna
try to be more collaborative. I'm gonna ask this person
for their input and they drop something dumb like that
where it's like, hey, this is the exact reason why
I don't ever ask you for your opinion on anything.
You don't have time for this, all right, Well, if
it's done wrong later, then you can't complain, you know,
if they say you're doing it wrong.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
Blunt and patronize in this phrase immediately puts people on
the defensive, turn a learning opportunity into a confrontation, undercuts confidence,
and discourages experimentation and risk taking, which are a viled innovation.
I try to be better at that, like with the
show obviously too, Like I know how I like things done. However,
if somebody on the show has a better idea for
(06:08):
doing something to me, it's like great, especially if it's
something where it's like it doesn't affect me, Like let's
just say, like you know, Eric Hoodie and sever are
always put together podcast and maybe I have a certain
way that I would do it right.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
But if they have a.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
Better way of doing it, it's easier for them and
still gets the podcast up.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
And I can't tell a difference listening. What do I care?
You know what I mean? Like, if they find a
better way of doing it, I think that's fine.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
I think so many times, like bigger scale obviously, like
bosses get so disconnected to how their workers are that
like they don't really know the struggles of the everyday office.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
I think that happens all the time.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
If they say you're overreacting, They say this phrase dismisses
emotions and makes people feel like their feelings are invalid
or irrational. It's a sure fire away to escalate situation
rather than diffuse it, they say. People often react by
shutting down or becoming defensive. Again, I think at this
point then, like you can't be a boss and nobody
comes to with any problems. Also, if nobody's coming to
(07:10):
you with any problems as a boss, it's not because
things are perfect, that's not it. It's because they don't
want to tell you what's going on, you know what
I mean? Like any boss that thinks, like, oh, there's
no issues you don't know, bro, you don't know. If
they say I don't care how you do it, they
say this phrase suggest the process and people involved are
(07:31):
relevant as long as the end result is achieved. It
can lead to careless shortcuts and lack of accountability, undermining
the quality of work. I also think to me, yeah,
that to me is like if I bring something up
and somebody goes, I don't care how you get done,
That to me implies I probably brought a problem to
you and you just don't care enough.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (07:51):
Like, okay, so it doesn't matter what issues don't bringing
to you. If I say, like the computer is slow,
I don't care how you get done. It's get it done, okay,
but we could get done better. I do believe wholeheartedly.
I think most people want to do a good job.
I mean that, I think most people want to do
a good job. So somebody isn't doing a good job,
they probably don't know it. You know, I don't want
(08:12):
to hear excuses.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
They say.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
This phrase dismisses any context or challenges that might have
impacted the performance, signally a lack of empathy. It closes
off dialogue and makes people feel unsupported and overwhelmed. Yeah,
I also think too, which is like we forget what
people are going through, you know what I mean, Like
we forget and like not to make this about me,
But my dad was diagnosed with cancer in uh March.
(08:35):
I didn't make that public until November, so for eight
months like that, obviously it's a huge stress on me.
And not to making it about me obviously, but like
you know, so you never quite know what somebody else
is going through or what's going on in their lives.
I think that's kind of like the human aspect of
it is like, yeah, obviously everybody's got deadlines, you want
things done, but there are things you can't control, you know.
(08:56):
And the last one is I'm not gonna repeat myself.
They say this phrase come off as dismissive and impatient,
suggesting that your time awards are more valuable than others.
Understanding it discourages further questions and make people feel unwelcome
to see clarification. Yeah, again, this goes back to like,
if you are gonna be this close off, you can't
be surprised when nobody goes to you for anything, you
know what I mean? Because I also think to me, like,
(09:19):
I think that's a problem too. If I'm asking for clarification,
You're like, I'm not gonna repeat myself, Okay, I just
want to do a good job, dude. Yeah, it's gonna
be the best boy can be. Look, I hope you
have a fantastic Black Friday. I'm thankful for you for
listening to the radio show, for listening to the podcast,
for following along everywhere. At intern Job Radio you can
binge the show podcast as well to search intern Johnny
(09:41):
Morning Show where ever gets your podcasts.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
I'll see you Monday Spots Shower
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