July 2, 2025 • 9 mins
On this episode of The Thought Shower, Intern John talks about how to tiptoe around people
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
And a Happy Wednesday friend. Welcome to the Thought Shower intern.
John is my name? Fresh off a nice long it
guess to be a long weekend in the Orlando area
was lovely. Get a chance the Universe Orlando Resorts, Epic Universe.
It's a lot of fun doing theme parks as an adult,
(00:21):
you know, I think you appreciate a little more, especially
the big the big ones, if you will.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
And so it was great. Florida's awesome. Dude.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
If I could be in Florida more often, I definitely would.
Although it's weird, so I know on the East Coast,
like the beach house is the thing. Everybody's got a
beach house. Everybody goes to the beach. Where I'm from Minnesota.
Did I sound southern there where I'm from? Hell yea brother.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
Where I'm from Minnesota, we don't do that. We don't
do beach houses because we don't really have beach.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
I mean, we have lakes, and I guess like people
go to the lake, but uh, we don't really do
the beach houses. We do cabins here my stories up,
we do cabins. And that's kind of like the the
way you go and the like with cabins, you know,
you can do it very rustic, like like I have buddy.
(01:19):
Their cabin had no heat, no electricity, you know, outhouse
right outside, and it was kind of like, uh, it's
more of a shack really. You walk into the main
room as a fireplace, and there was like four bunk beds,
and then uh there was a kitchen and then the
patio and now it was kind of it. I guess
looking back, maybe it was a gas stove. Is that
(01:40):
dumb must have been a gas stove, right, And then
I've been I've seen cabins where it's like when I
go to uh, I go to the woods, where it's
like has electricity, has a sea hot ub, all that
good stuff.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
I tend to lean more that way, but still get away.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
I bring this up to say, I guess for a
beach house, if I have a each house that was
like as secluded as some cabins are, that'd be ideal.
Now I realized that beach house probably like ten million
dollars to be secluded but still be nice, you know,
some of the beach, some of the water. I don't
know why I brought this up. It's not go I
(02:18):
can't afford a ten million dollar cabin in or beach house.
But if anybody wants to give me one, you know,
I'm really good arm candy. I really think that that's
my true calling. My true calling is not to work hard.
I've tried that. Not a fan, not fan. I'd rather
just wake up whenever and just look pretty. So if
we can make that happen, that's my only goal for
(02:42):
the year. Yeah, we won the Hockey Championship, shows doom Well,
comedy shows sold out. Only goal I have is to
be a catman, and you know I'm gonna I'm gonna
shoot for the stars, So I'm pretty excited about that.
I don't know how we got on this tangent, then again,
I rarely do. I'm gonna spend some time in Nashville.
My family, a lot of radio friends out here, which
is nice. It's nice because Nashville, you know, in DC,
(03:06):
there's not a lot of young radio people. It's just
kind of like our show, which is great, but Nashville
is a bunch of others, so we all kind of
hang out and vibe and it's gonna be a fun time.
So very excited for that. You can follow along at
WYMUS radio. Let me get to this fel Wednesday. The
things you should never say if you don't want to
(03:27):
be accused of gaslighting. I do think that gaslighting. We
have a huge problem in this country where we take
phrases that have bad meaning and we overuse them and
eventually the meaning wears off. I'm not gonna say what
those are. They you can probably guess, but like where we're so,
(03:47):
I think there's a time where, like we knew calling
a person this thing was the worst thing. You'd call
somebody and it meant something, But over time you kept
calling everybody whoever that thing is, and there's multiple of them,
and it's kind of lost its luster, which is a
shame because being called this should be a bad thing. Gaslighting,
I think, is something that we have kind of let
(04:09):
lose its luster because what it is is intentionally making
somebody think something true that's not true. You know what
I mean, if like they were drunken obnoxious, or let
me phrase that, if they weren't drunk obnoxious at a party,
they had a drink and you'd be like, oh, you
were so drunk, we all know it, and you make
the person think they were drunk.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
That's gaslighting.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
If they actually were drunk as hell and you say, yo,
you were drunk as hell last night, that's just telling
the truth. But unfortunately we've made it okay to call
that gas lighting if it's the.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
Truth, you know what I mean. So I think that's
it's not great.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
We need to find something better now, starting with again,
these are things though you don't want to be accused.
I don't want to say. If you don't want to
be accus of gaslighting, you're being too sensitive. I do
think that's one is yeah, because then you're you're dismissing
their feelings and labeling them as overreactions. So you're that
in that case, let's assume positive intent. You are making
(05:09):
it seem like they're being a little bit out there,
like what they're doing is wrong. I would agree with that.
I never said that they said this phrase. The one
way take it to frustration and confusion. When you deny
having said something, if forces the person to doubt their
memory and perception they say. Instead of outright denial, consider
(05:31):
a phrasing the conversation to find common ground. That is tough, though,
that is tough, especially if he didn't say it. I
guess that's kind of like the the overall arching lesson
here is how to say things without making it seem
like you're gaslighting. I think that's probably more fair. Maybe
you're imagining it. That one is tough. That's a tough one, dude.
(05:58):
That one's a little bit more hardcore. You know. Hey,
maybe you just make it up in your head. I
don't know if that's the road to go. They say,
a more constructive approach is to acknowledge their feelings and
the situation a hand, instead of accusing them of being delusional,
invite them to year more about their perspective. Okay, like, hey,
you're wrong, but why don't you prove to me even
(06:22):
more reasons that you are wrong? That's not fair? Yeah, okay, uh,
I think you're overreacting. Okay they stay. Instead of shutting
them down, give them the space to express themselves fully,
let them vent, then work together final resolution. I do
think too, a lot of times when emotions are high,
(06:45):
our reaction is to overreact. And I do think sometimes
you gotta let somebody get through the overreaction. I get
through that initial blow up, and then they'll come back
down to earth a little bit, and then you can
like start talking.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (06:59):
I know that for me, So times like I'll if
I might really frustrate or something, I'll go ten ten
on the scale when really it should be like a
six and a half. And eventually, like once I get
that initial like dah dah out, I feel like it
starts to come back to earth a little bit and
then makes it easier to address, if that makes sense.
(07:21):
So this one's probably other two more real quick. You
can't take a joke, they say, It can seem harmless,
But the slippery slope, they say, rather than questioning their
sense of humor, consider the joke might have hitting a nerve.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
But listen, I think that's the.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
What you sign up with when you when you take
that risk, too, it's like, yeah, you don't know somebody's trauma,
you don't know somebody's history, and like that's tough, Like
that's kind of like when you say a joke, you
are taking that risk of like you could actually hurt
somebody's failings and like yeah, kind of on up to that,
you know, I think, And I think as long as too,
(07:57):
they know that you are not trying to be negative
or be like that. I do think it tends to
work out the last one, and probably I would say
the most glaringly obvious one is uh, your minus playing tricks. Yeah,
I mean telling somebody they've got things all wrong? Is
(08:18):
they say, it's like pulling the rug out one hundred
percent instead? All right, Denial, consider discussing the event calmly
and find out where the memories diverge. I do think
there is something to them. It's like I had a
hockey coach once telling me, if you have one hundred
people see a car crash from one hundred feet away,
you can get a hundred different stories. And it's true,
(08:38):
everybody has their own perspective. But to tell somebody that
their their minus playing tricks is scary. I've had it
happened before, and I had to reach out to a
friend which was sauce and be like, hey, is am
I going crazy? Or did X, Y and Z actually happen?
And that is a scary place to be a I
hope you have a great Wednesday. If you get a
chance to fall along, I greatly appreciate it. At In
(09:00):
Turns John Radio, I'm on Friday. We'll see you Monday,
And a Happy Wednesday friend. Welcome to the Thought Shower intern.
John is my name? Fresh off a nice long it
guess to be a long weekend in the Orlando area
was lovely. Get a chance the Universe Orlando Resorts, Epic Universe.
It's a lot of fun doing theme parks as an adult,
(00:21):
you know, I think you appreciate a little more, especially
the big the big ones, if you will.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
And so it was great. Florida's awesome. Dude.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
If I could be in Florida more often, I definitely would.
Although it's weird, so I know on the East Coast,
like the beach house is the thing. Everybody's got a
beach house. Everybody goes to the beach. Where I'm from Minnesota.
Did I sound southern there where I'm from? Hell yea brother.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
Where I'm from Minnesota, we don't do that. We don't
do beach houses because we don't really have beach.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
I mean, we have lakes, and I guess like people
go to the lake, but uh, we don't really do
the beach houses. We do cabins here my stories up,
we do cabins. And that's kind of like the the
way you go and the like with cabins, you know,
you can do it very rustic, like like I have buddy.
(01:19):
Their cabin had no heat, no electricity, you know, outhouse
right outside, and it was kind of like, uh, it's
more of a shack really. You walk into the main
room as a fireplace, and there was like four bunk beds,
and then uh there was a kitchen and then the
patio and now it was kind of it. I guess
looking back, maybe it was a gas stove. Is that
(01:40):
dumb must have been a gas stove, right, And then
I've been I've seen cabins where it's like when I
go to uh, I go to the woods, where it's
like has electricity, has a sea hot ub, all that
good stuff.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
I tend to lean more that way, but still get away.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
I bring this up to say, I guess for a
beach house, if I have a each house that was
like as secluded as some cabins are, that'd be ideal.
Now I realized that beach house probably like ten million
dollars to be secluded but still be nice, you know,
some of the beach, some of the water. I don't
know why I brought this up. It's not go I
(02:18):
can't afford a ten million dollar cabin in or beach house.
But if anybody wants to give me one, you know,
I'm really good arm candy. I really think that that's
my true calling. My true calling is not to work hard.
I've tried that. Not a fan, not fan. I'd rather
just wake up whenever and just look pretty. So if
we can make that happen, that's my only goal for
(02:42):
the year. Yeah, we won the Hockey Championship, shows doom Well,
comedy shows sold out. Only goal I have is to
be a catman, and you know I'm gonna I'm gonna
shoot for the stars, So I'm pretty excited about that.
I don't know how we got on this tangent, then again,
I rarely do. I'm gonna spend some time in Nashville.
My family, a lot of radio friends out here, which
is nice. It's nice because Nashville, you know, in DC,
(03:06):
there's not a lot of young radio people. It's just
kind of like our show, which is great, but Nashville
is a bunch of others, so we all kind of
hang out and vibe and it's gonna be a fun time.
So very excited for that. You can follow along at
WYMUS radio. Let me get to this fel Wednesday. The
things you should never say if you don't want to
(03:27):
be accused of gaslighting. I do think that gaslighting. We
have a huge problem in this country where we take
phrases that have bad meaning and we overuse them and
eventually the meaning wears off. I'm not gonna say what
those are. They you can probably guess, but like where we're so,
(03:47):
I think there's a time where, like we knew calling
a person this thing was the worst thing. You'd call
somebody and it meant something, But over time you kept
calling everybody whoever that thing is, and there's multiple of them,
and it's kind of lost its luster, which is a
shame because being called this should be a bad thing. Gaslighting,
I think, is something that we have kind of let
(04:09):
lose its luster because what it is is intentionally making
somebody think something true that's not true. You know what
I mean, if like they were drunken obnoxious, or let
me phrase that, if they weren't drunk obnoxious at a party,
they had a drink and you'd be like, oh, you
were so drunk, we all know it, and you make
the person think they were drunk.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
That's gaslighting.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
If they actually were drunk as hell and you say, yo,
you were drunk as hell last night, that's just telling
the truth. But unfortunately we've made it okay to call
that gas lighting if it's the.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
Truth, you know what I mean. So I think that's
it's not great.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
We need to find something better now, starting with again,
these are things though you don't want to be accused.
I don't want to say. If you don't want to
be accus of gaslighting, you're being too sensitive. I do
think that's one is yeah, because then you're you're dismissing
their feelings and labeling them as overreactions. So you're that
in that case, let's assume positive intent. You are making
(05:09):
it seem like they're being a little bit out there,
like what they're doing is wrong. I would agree with that.
I never said that they said this phrase. The one
way take it to frustration and confusion. When you deny
having said something, if forces the person to doubt their
memory and perception they say. Instead of outright denial, consider
(05:31):
a phrasing the conversation to find common ground. That is tough, though,
that is tough, especially if he didn't say it. I
guess that's kind of like the the overall arching lesson
here is how to say things without making it seem
like you're gaslighting. I think that's probably more fair. Maybe
you're imagining it. That one is tough. That's a tough one, dude.
(05:58):
That one's a little bit more hardcore. You know. Hey,
maybe you just make it up in your head. I
don't know if that's the road to go. They say,
a more constructive approach is to acknowledge their feelings and
the situation a hand, instead of accusing them of being delusional,
invite them to year more about their perspective. Okay, like, hey,
you're wrong, but why don't you prove to me even
(06:22):
more reasons that you are wrong? That's not fair? Yeah, okay, uh,
I think you're overreacting. Okay they stay. Instead of shutting
them down, give them the space to express themselves fully,
let them vent, then work together final resolution. I do
think too, a lot of times when emotions are high,
(06:45):
our reaction is to overreact. And I do think sometimes
you gotta let somebody get through the overreaction. I get
through that initial blow up, and then they'll come back
down to earth a little bit, and then you can
like start talking.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (06:59):
I know that for me, So times like I'll if
I might really frustrate or something, I'll go ten ten
on the scale when really it should be like a
six and a half. And eventually, like once I get
that initial like dah dah out, I feel like it
starts to come back to earth a little bit and
then makes it easier to address, if that makes sense.
(07:21):
So this one's probably other two more real quick. You
can't take a joke, they say, It can seem harmless,
But the slippery slope, they say, rather than questioning their
sense of humor, consider the joke might have hitting a nerve.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
But listen, I think that's the.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
What you sign up with when you when you take
that risk, too, it's like, yeah, you don't know somebody's trauma,
you don't know somebody's history, and like that's tough, Like
that's kind of like when you say a joke, you
are taking that risk of like you could actually hurt
somebody's failings and like yeah, kind of on up to that,
you know, I think, And I think as long as too,
(07:57):
they know that you are not trying to be negative
or be like that. I do think it tends to
work out the last one, and probably I would say
the most glaringly obvious one is uh, your minus playing tricks. Yeah,
I mean telling somebody they've got things all wrong? Is
(08:18):
they say, it's like pulling the rug out one hundred
percent instead? All right, Denial, consider discussing the event calmly
and find out where the memories diverge. I do think
there is something to them. It's like I had a
hockey coach once telling me, if you have one hundred
people see a car crash from one hundred feet away,
you can get a hundred different stories. And it's true,
(08:38):
everybody has their own perspective. But to tell somebody that
their their minus playing tricks is scary. I've had it
happened before, and I had to reach out to a
friend which was sauce and be like, hey, is am
I going crazy? Or did X, Y and Z actually happen?
And that is a scary place to be a I
hope you have a great Wednesday. If you get a
chance to fall along, I greatly appreciate it. At In
(09:00):
Turns John Radio, I'm on Friday. We'll see you Monday,
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