January 5, 2026 • 10 mins
On this episode of The Thought Shower, Intern John returns for 2026. He's talking about vacation with his mom, and how to know you can't trust someone
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
And a Happy Monday friend. Welcome to the Thought Shower.
The first we our first shower together in twenty twenty six.
How you feeling about it? You know what I'm saying.
Took a bit of a break. We had. Jingle Ball
was December fifteenth, I believe. Uh that's like forever ago. Yeah,
(00:20):
that's crazy. It was three, No sixteenth. Sorry, so it
was three tuesdays ago, which is crazy. Jingle Ball is fantastic.
I believe I did the post jingle Ball podcast, but
just kind of reliving that was probably the most fun
jingle Ball I've been a part of. You know, usually
for me, jingle Ball is busy. It's just like I
(00:41):
don't get to watch the show, which I'm not complaining
because we do interviews and on stage stuff. That seemed
to be the most fun one. Again, I think Nelly
being fantastic was you know, I can't go wrong there.
So after jingle Ball, I flew to Chicago, Illinois to
meet my mother because we're going on a vacation together
to Hawaii. So that kind of came about because my
(01:02):
dad was diagnosed with cancer back in March. My dad
and I went to England in Italy in May, and
that I was like, oh, I should bring my mom somewhere.
We should go to Hawaii. So when to Chicago? First?
I love Chicago if you haven't been. My parents used
to take us as kids all time. Because from Minneapolis
Chicago on May six hour drive or something like that.
I was exhausted. But first thing we did was order
(01:25):
deep Dish delivery pizza because he got to you got to.
They went out to I believe Chicago Chop is what
it was called, restaurant, fantastic steak restaurant, good to go,
and then a town to fly to Hawaii. Now here's
the thing about Hawaii. The one thing I miss about
living in the Midwest is every flight is basically three
hours away. Within the United States. It just kind of
(01:47):
is be on the East coast, Like the flight of
Hawaii direct is like probably a fifteen hour flight. And
that's it's not good because he got fly to La first.
I guess when we direct, you get the idea and
then go there. Fly from chicag I go it was
nine hours, like nine a half hours. Not great. Left
my iPad on the plane. That wasn't great, realized right
away and it's a scary process. Because it's like, well,
(02:11):
if you lose it on a plane, you have to
hope that they find it and that they return it
and then to di submit something line, YadA, YadA. They
said they had it great. Hawaii was lovely. It was me.
It was very cool. It's very expensive, like everything there
is like double the price. So Mom I went to
the resort, kind of relaxed the first night. The second
(02:33):
day went to Pearl Harbor, which that was powerful. Wasn't
really too sure what to expect. It wasn't just what
you know, envisioned of it. But my grandpa, my mom's
father in law, was at Pearl Harbor during the bombing,
and so just to kind of see that, you take
a little ship over the USS Arizona, which is the
(02:53):
one that's sunk, and they tell you when the Arizonas
hit it flew thirty five feet out of the water,
which is crazy. So did that kind of a very
somber thing, obviously, you know you think of thousands of
really young boys that die in Pearl Harbor. I did that.
We get Jurassic Park. That was that was my mom
a big Jurassic Park girls. That was her idea. But
(03:15):
there's this giant kind of like Nature Preserve where they
filmed most of the Jurassic Parks they filmed was it
the Adams saying with like five hundred first dates whatever
it is fifty first dates they filmed like Tropic Thunder,
they filmed like King Kong. That was pretty cool to see.
The Jurassic Park stuff was pretty cool as well. If
(03:38):
they had like some of the cages up still, that
was pretty cool. But it was just and you know,
this hasn't come for me. It was very pretty like
it was kind of like, oh, like this is you know,
you know, touched by the Lord. I guess. But overall, now,
overall it was fantastic trip. It was golda hang my mom,
we don't get we don't really get a chance to hang.
And then the worst part game about Hawaii is a
(03:59):
flight back. So the travel day back is like twenty
four hours, so it was like because they're like six
hours behind. I believe our flight back was at ten pm,
land in Phoenix at like six am, and then land
nash Fell after that, so that part wasn't great. Overall
was great. Now I got a chance to kind of
get back and relaxed. Then I got a wedding, good
(04:20):
friend DJ Rise get married in Oh, He's gonna kill
me two weeks, three weeks, so, a lot of traveling,
a lot of good stuff going. It's happy to be here,
happy to be back. Let me get to this for
you Monday. The trays that reveal somebody's immediately untrustworthy. And
I like this kind of stuff because I always had
(04:41):
my guard up a little bit of like, I don't know,
I know, it's just the Midwest of me why I
don't trust people in general. But the first thing they're
saying is they speak with absolute certainty about things they
can't possibly know, meaning they say trust requires flexibility. Someone
who can't tolerate uncertain The office often fills gaps with assumptions, exaggeration,
(05:03):
or invention. Yeah, you know. I always tell the kids
that I coach hockey with. It's like, hey, fellas, you
know you have a lot of adults in your life
who are trying to tell you they know everything. I'll
never tell you that, and I would. I would say
to you, don't trust the adult who makes it seem
like they know everything because they don't, you know, Trust
(05:26):
the person that says they don't know. They don't know,
but they'll find out. It was always the one thing
we taught us. They to us in the military school.
If you didn't know the answer or something, say sir,
I don't know, but I will find out. I think
that's fair. Uh. Their stories shift in small, self serving ways. Yeah,
they say these aren't dramatic contradictions, they're subtle edits details
(05:48):
that change depending on what's convenient, who's listening, or what
I'll come would benefit them the most. I'd noticed this
people at work doing this kind of stuff. Yeah, mm hmm,
change up of details, how long they're doing something, or
how tough on the was it is. It's a bit
odd because I guess, like, maybe it's because of me
doing the show. I consider myself good at listening or
(06:09):
like catching no small details, so I'll notice if somebody
goes and switches up a little bit. Yeah, they're excessively
focused on being liked, for sure. This if people are
overly invested in approval, often appear warm, agreeable, and accommodating.
On the surface, this gonna be reassuring, But when likability
becomes a primary goal, they tend to display something more important,
integrity under pressure. I think this kind of goes back
(06:31):
to the last one, where it's like, yeah, the story
changes depending on who they're with, depending on what's going on,
because they just want to be liked. I hate that,
I want to say, hate the kind of person, but like,
I'm not a fan of that because I need people
on my corner to stand up for me, you know
what I mean. I don't need my friends to be
(06:53):
liked by my enemies, and they can be like, hey, no,
we're taking his side. They avoid direct answers to simple questions.
I say, some people respond to straightforward questions with discretions, jokes,
or abstractions. It doesn't always read as a basis. At first,
it can sound as thoughtful a nuance, but over time
clarity never quite arrives. This is tough. This is tough
(07:17):
because I also think too, it's almost like you need
to know what side people are on, right, You need
to know what they think about You realize sometimes like
friends like, oh, I really know nothing about them. Do
you ever realize that with a friend where it's like
I couldn't tell you if they have family or whatever,
but they seem to know a lot about me. You know,
(07:38):
It's almost like they're on a fact gathering mission. If
that makes sense. It's a little bit an easier feeling too. Yeah,
they speak disparagingly about everyone who isn't present. This is
obviously the biggest one. Right, when someone's not there, they
can talk trash about that person. They can give dirt
(08:00):
on that person, And to me is the old edge
and learner as a kid. If somebody's talking trash to you,
they're probably talking trash about you, right, that's probably what's
going on with that. Like, if somebody comes to me
and unprovoked gives me a gossip on somebody, my first
(08:21):
thought is not to give them a piece of gossip
as well, because it's like, hey, who told you this?
Why do you know this? Last one? I'll hit today.
They push intimacy or loyalty too quickly, they say, immediate
closeness can feel flattering, shared secrets early on, fast us
versus them, language a sense you're special or chosen, but
speed off and bypasses discernment. They say. Trustforms that forms
(08:45):
so quickly usually forms out evidence. When someone asks for
loyalty before and earning it, they're asking to commit without information.
I've seen this happen more so a friends where like
I've had friends who there's a new friend in their
life and they are like hit over heels friend and hip.
Why is this person? And I said, like, hey, something's
not right. Like you're great, you are, You're a great person,
(09:08):
but this person's willing to do like ay one from
day one stuff for you and not just like have
your back, but like you know, pick you up from
the airport, drive you to do all this kind of
stuff where it's like it's a little bit too soon
and you deserve a friendship where you feel like you
have that kind of support for sure, But if it's
happening off a jump, I tend to have the flags
(09:31):
up a little bit. Look, I appreciate you giving me
the grace of taking a week or so off from
the podcast, had a chance to recharge. I'll be on
Fox five Layer today around two on Monday depending what
do you hear this? And then uh yeah, follow along
at Internjohn Radio. You can binge the show podcasts. Just
(09:52):
search Internsjohn your morning show, wherever, eat your podcast. Happy Monday.
Let's have the best twenty twenty six ever. Her
And a Happy Monday friend. Welcome to the Thought Shower.
The first we our first shower together in twenty twenty six.
How you feeling about it? You know what I'm saying.
Took a bit of a break. We had. Jingle Ball
was December fifteenth, I believe. Uh that's like forever ago. Yeah,
(00:20):
that's crazy. It was three, No sixteenth. Sorry, so it
was three tuesdays ago, which is crazy. Jingle Ball is fantastic.
I believe I did the post jingle Ball podcast, but
just kind of reliving that was probably the most fun
jingle Ball I've been a part of. You know, usually
for me, jingle Ball is busy. It's just like I
(00:41):
don't get to watch the show, which I'm not complaining
because we do interviews and on stage stuff. That seemed
to be the most fun one. Again, I think Nelly
being fantastic was you know, I can't go wrong there.
So after jingle Ball, I flew to Chicago, Illinois to
meet my mother because we're going on a vacation together
to Hawaii. So that kind of came about because my
(01:02):
dad was diagnosed with cancer back in March. My dad
and I went to England in Italy in May, and
that I was like, oh, I should bring my mom somewhere.
We should go to Hawaii. So when to Chicago? First?
I love Chicago if you haven't been. My parents used
to take us as kids all time. Because from Minneapolis
Chicago on May six hour drive or something like that.
I was exhausted. But first thing we did was order
(01:25):
deep Dish delivery pizza because he got to you got to.
They went out to I believe Chicago Chop is what
it was called, restaurant, fantastic steak restaurant, good to go,
and then a town to fly to Hawaii. Now here's
the thing about Hawaii. The one thing I miss about
living in the Midwest is every flight is basically three
hours away. Within the United States. It just kind of
(01:47):
is be on the East coast, Like the flight of
Hawaii direct is like probably a fifteen hour flight. And
that's it's not good because he got fly to La first.
I guess when we direct, you get the idea and
then go there. Fly from chicag I go it was
nine hours, like nine a half hours. Not great. Left
my iPad on the plane. That wasn't great, realized right
away and it's a scary process. Because it's like, well,
(02:11):
if you lose it on a plane, you have to
hope that they find it and that they return it
and then to di submit something line, YadA, YadA. They
said they had it great. Hawaii was lovely. It was me.
It was very cool. It's very expensive, like everything there
is like double the price. So Mom I went to
the resort, kind of relaxed the first night. The second
(02:33):
day went to Pearl Harbor, which that was powerful. Wasn't
really too sure what to expect. It wasn't just what
you know, envisioned of it. But my grandpa, my mom's
father in law, was at Pearl Harbor during the bombing,
and so just to kind of see that, you take
a little ship over the USS Arizona, which is the
(02:53):
one that's sunk, and they tell you when the Arizonas
hit it flew thirty five feet out of the water,
which is crazy. So did that kind of a very
somber thing, obviously, you know you think of thousands of
really young boys that die in Pearl Harbor. I did that.
We get Jurassic Park. That was that was my mom
a big Jurassic Park girls. That was her idea. But
(03:15):
there's this giant kind of like Nature Preserve where they
filmed most of the Jurassic Parks they filmed was it
the Adams saying with like five hundred first dates whatever
it is fifty first dates they filmed like Tropic Thunder,
they filmed like King Kong. That was pretty cool to see.
The Jurassic Park stuff was pretty cool as well. If
(03:38):
they had like some of the cages up still, that
was pretty cool. But it was just and you know,
this hasn't come for me. It was very pretty like
it was kind of like, oh, like this is you know,
you know, touched by the Lord. I guess. But overall, now,
overall it was fantastic trip. It was golda hang my mom,
we don't get we don't really get a chance to hang.
And then the worst part game about Hawaii is a
(03:59):
flight back. So the travel day back is like twenty
four hours, so it was like because they're like six
hours behind. I believe our flight back was at ten pm,
land in Phoenix at like six am, and then land
nash Fell after that, so that part wasn't great. Overall
was great. Now I got a chance to kind of
get back and relaxed. Then I got a wedding, good
(04:20):
friend DJ Rise get married in Oh, He's gonna kill
me two weeks, three weeks, so, a lot of traveling,
a lot of good stuff going. It's happy to be here,
happy to be back. Let me get to this for
you Monday. The trays that reveal somebody's immediately untrustworthy. And
I like this kind of stuff because I always had
(04:41):
my guard up a little bit of like, I don't know,
I know, it's just the Midwest of me why I
don't trust people in general. But the first thing they're
saying is they speak with absolute certainty about things they
can't possibly know, meaning they say trust requires flexibility. Someone
who can't tolerate uncertain The office often fills gaps with assumptions, exaggeration,
(05:03):
or invention. Yeah, you know. I always tell the kids
that I coach hockey with. It's like, hey, fellas, you
know you have a lot of adults in your life
who are trying to tell you they know everything. I'll
never tell you that, and I would. I would say
to you, don't trust the adult who makes it seem
like they know everything because they don't, you know, Trust
(05:26):
the person that says they don't know. They don't know,
but they'll find out. It was always the one thing
we taught us. They to us in the military school.
If you didn't know the answer or something, say sir,
I don't know, but I will find out. I think
that's fair. Uh. Their stories shift in small, self serving ways. Yeah,
they say these aren't dramatic contradictions, they're subtle edits details
(05:48):
that change depending on what's convenient, who's listening, or what
I'll come would benefit them the most. I'd noticed this
people at work doing this kind of stuff. Yeah, mm hmm,
change up of details, how long they're doing something, or
how tough on the was it is. It's a bit
odd because I guess, like, maybe it's because of me
doing the show. I consider myself good at listening or
(06:09):
like catching no small details, so I'll notice if somebody
goes and switches up a little bit. Yeah, they're excessively
focused on being liked, for sure. This if people are
overly invested in approval, often appear warm, agreeable, and accommodating.
On the surface, this gonna be reassuring, But when likability
becomes a primary goal, they tend to display something more important,
integrity under pressure. I think this kind of goes back
(06:31):
to the last one, where it's like, yeah, the story
changes depending on who they're with, depending on what's going on,
because they just want to be liked. I hate that,
I want to say, hate the kind of person, but like,
I'm not a fan of that because I need people
on my corner to stand up for me, you know
what I mean. I don't need my friends to be
(06:53):
liked by my enemies, and they can be like, hey, no,
we're taking his side. They avoid direct answers to simple questions.
I say, some people respond to straightforward questions with discretions, jokes,
or abstractions. It doesn't always read as a basis. At first,
it can sound as thoughtful a nuance, but over time
clarity never quite arrives. This is tough. This is tough
(07:17):
because I also think too, it's almost like you need
to know what side people are on, right, You need
to know what they think about You realize sometimes like
friends like, oh, I really know nothing about them. Do
you ever realize that with a friend where it's like
I couldn't tell you if they have family or whatever,
but they seem to know a lot about me. You know,
(07:38):
It's almost like they're on a fact gathering mission. If
that makes sense. It's a little bit an easier feeling too. Yeah,
they speak disparagingly about everyone who isn't present. This is
obviously the biggest one. Right, when someone's not there, they
can talk trash about that person. They can give dirt
(08:00):
on that person, And to me is the old edge
and learner as a kid. If somebody's talking trash to you,
they're probably talking trash about you, right, that's probably what's
going on with that. Like, if somebody comes to me
and unprovoked gives me a gossip on somebody, my first
(08:21):
thought is not to give them a piece of gossip
as well, because it's like, hey, who told you this?
Why do you know this? Last one? I'll hit today.
They push intimacy or loyalty too quickly, they say, immediate
closeness can feel flattering, shared secrets early on, fast us
versus them, language a sense you're special or chosen, but
speed off and bypasses discernment. They say. Trustforms that forms
(08:45):
so quickly usually forms out evidence. When someone asks for
loyalty before and earning it, they're asking to commit without information.
I've seen this happen more so a friends where like
I've had friends who there's a new friend in their
life and they are like hit over heels friend and hip.
Why is this person? And I said, like, hey, something's
not right. Like you're great, you are, You're a great person,
(09:08):
but this person's willing to do like ay one from
day one stuff for you and not just like have
your back, but like you know, pick you up from
the airport, drive you to do all this kind of
stuff where it's like it's a little bit too soon
and you deserve a friendship where you feel like you
have that kind of support for sure, But if it's
happening off a jump, I tend to have the flags
(09:31):
up a little bit. Look, I appreciate you giving me
the grace of taking a week or so off from
the podcast, had a chance to recharge. I'll be on
Fox five Layer today around two on Monday depending what
do you hear this? And then uh yeah, follow along
at Internjohn Radio. You can binge the show podcasts. Just
(09:52):
search Internsjohn your morning show, wherever, eat your podcast. Happy Monday.
Let's have the best twenty twenty six ever. Her
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