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September 4, 2025 12 mins

Producer Ella has a bone to pick with Clint, and Clint learns a valuable lesson in anxiety. 

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You are ready for this, and don't turn that into
a podcast intro.

Speaker 2 (00:04):
Don't you turn that into a podcast?

Speaker 3 (00:09):
Consider it dumb?

Speaker 4 (00:10):
Five six eight T.

Speaker 3 (00:15):
You can't take me to girl, Let.

Speaker 5 (00:19):
Rob it what I have a bone to pick.

Speaker 1 (00:21):
With you be gentle on me. I think I've got
seasonal elergies. Okay, I'm a little bit sniveling.

Speaker 6 (00:29):
The first hardship he's facing his life.

Speaker 7 (00:35):
Fair.

Speaker 4 (00:35):
Holy sh it's not fair what I got gout that time?

Speaker 3 (00:38):
Oh that's true? Yeah, sorry, I take it back. No,
what did you say the other day that fucked me
off so much?

Speaker 2 (00:45):
Here we fucking go.

Speaker 6 (00:46):
Yeah, because because I was jealous? Okay, not because I'm like,
oh fuck, because I was jealous.

Speaker 3 (00:53):
What was it he was talking about?

Speaker 2 (00:55):
I know what it was, you know what.

Speaker 6 (00:57):
We can't name the stuff, but we were talking about
someone who had been struggling with.

Speaker 3 (01:03):
Self doubt. Hah yeah right, and.

Speaker 2 (01:08):
Mean to laugh loudly at that, But yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:09):
I just remembering loose remembering.

Speaker 2 (01:13):
I'm remembering the conversation. That's why I yesked.

Speaker 6 (01:16):
Self doubt and reading comments online and blah blah blah blah.
And then you said, what did you say?

Speaker 2 (01:25):
Words to the effect of, well, just don't.

Speaker 3 (01:29):
Well, just don't do that. Why did they care?

Speaker 2 (01:33):
No, it wasn't why do they care?

Speaker 3 (01:35):
What was it else?

Speaker 1 (01:38):
So their issue was they knew they were mean things
being said about them and a certain part of the internet,
and this is a public figure, this person, and they
were still going to read it, and they were talking
about how it was upsetting them so much. I said,
the solution is really easy. Don't go and read those things.

Speaker 2 (01:54):
Don't know.

Speaker 6 (01:55):
There was something else you said, because that makes sense.
I wouldn't be angry for that. I'm like, that makes sense.
You then said something else where I was like, have
you never struggled with self doubt before? And you're like,
I don't think I have.

Speaker 5 (02:08):
Remember, maybe it was just the who cares like, don't take.

Speaker 3 (02:10):
It to heart? Do you remember?

Speaker 1 (02:12):
There was an element of it where I was like,
why do you give a ship what those people think?

Speaker 2 (02:16):
They're not doing?

Speaker 6 (02:16):
The thing that it was the self doubt thing where
you couldn't understand the concept.

Speaker 1 (02:20):
Of self No, don't pay me like I'm some no.
But it was simplest moron. I understand the concept. I understand.
I understand it as.

Speaker 5 (02:34):
What we come from a place that.

Speaker 3 (02:37):
No That's what I was trying to convey. That's what
it was. But you've never had a real problem with that.

Speaker 2 (02:42):
No, I get.

Speaker 3 (02:43):
It, you get it standard or you actually get self doubt.

Speaker 2 (02:50):
I have situations where I go, can I do this thing?

Speaker 4 (02:53):
And then I go and you go, yep.

Speaker 2 (02:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (02:59):
What I'm saying is that the reason I'm angry is
because I'm jealous.

Speaker 1 (03:02):
I th I think when I get to it is
I go, can I do this thing? And then I go, well,
who cares I'm doing the thing? Or They've booked me
to do the thing, or I've been given the opportunity
to do the thing, so clearly they think I can
do the thing, so I can do it.

Speaker 3 (03:15):
Yes, yeah, I want to have a brain there.

Speaker 1 (03:18):
I think about people who do do the thing, who
I've looked at in that, and in my mind, I go,
they've got no business doing the thing, and I go,
if they.

Speaker 2 (03:24):
Can do the thing, fucking I can do that.

Speaker 3 (03:26):
Well, see I look at other people, go there better
than me?

Speaker 7 (03:28):
No?

Speaker 1 (03:28):
And I know these people better than me at all
kinds of things, like at our job. I know there
is but I also know there's people worse than me.
So I go, if they let them do it an
acceptable level.

Speaker 6 (03:39):
I would just love to have a bit more of
that self belief that you just seem to exude.

Speaker 1 (03:46):
It's not even that it's a lack of caring what
other people think.

Speaker 3 (03:50):
Have you ever been out of your but your.

Speaker 1 (03:52):
Self doubt comes from right, yes, to know you're fine.

Speaker 8 (03:59):
I have a question for you, though, Clint, what happens
Maybe you don't ever feel out of your comfort zone?
But have you ever felt out of your comfort zone?
And then how do you feel? Because that's what anxiety
kind of happens, right or the self doubt because.

Speaker 6 (04:11):
It's like I've never seen personally, I've never seen Clint
doubt himself ever.

Speaker 3 (04:17):
Incredible and we've worked together for a long time, but
maybe he.

Speaker 8 (04:20):
Has internally, and like you and I a breath very potentially, do.

Speaker 1 (04:24):
You guys not think the anxiety word is a little
bit overused? And I'm not saying that anxiety is not
a thing. Do you think that maybe now it's sort
of a catch all word for feeling a little bit
nervous And some people are like, oh, this gives me anxiety.
Does it give you anxiety or does it just make
you a little bit nervous.

Speaker 3 (04:41):
That's what someone with no anxiety problems would say.

Speaker 6 (04:44):
Yeah, that's someone who's experienced the feeling of anxiety, that's
what they would say. So that's how I know that
you don't have that feeling. Yeah, you know, And I'm
fucking jealous of that.

Speaker 1 (04:56):
I wish I wish you didn't too, because all of
the things that you do and you get nervous about
and you and you you reflect on badly, and I.

Speaker 2 (05:05):
Fuck that up.

Speaker 1 (05:05):
You fucking do a great job of all of them,
and it's wasted. It's not just a wasted emotion, it's
wasted energy. Is what frustrates me.

Speaker 7 (05:12):
You enjoy the moment more and then you know what,
And that's what I hate the most is that I
and I really hate that about myself because I never
truly enjoy like you don't.

Speaker 6 (05:24):
Like fully where I'm like just there in the moment,
enjoying myself, like not ever like I have.

Speaker 4 (05:30):
But not often you think like me, don't you cold
I don't think, Claudia.

Speaker 5 (05:36):
I'm a deeply anxious person.

Speaker 7 (05:38):
I overthink a lot of things, and it's an irrational
anxiety that I'm like, you don't need to feel that
way and I know that, but I'm like, but that's.

Speaker 3 (05:44):
What anxiety is.

Speaker 6 (05:45):
It's an irrational thought you've created in your mind, and
then it gets bigger and bigger and bigger.

Speaker 5 (05:51):
I also get nervous about things separately.

Speaker 1 (05:53):
It's like our chat head on the other show on
the main podcast today about you at the gym, and
not the headphone part that was funny, but the but
where you talk about how uncomfortable you feel in the gym.

Speaker 2 (06:03):
Not a single person is looking at you.

Speaker 4 (06:04):
I know that, and I know that.

Speaker 1 (06:06):
I know that, you know that, but it stops you
from doing things that you want to do.

Speaker 3 (06:11):
Yeah, and I notice it.

Speaker 5 (06:12):
Yes, Claude, I had.

Speaker 7 (06:13):
A great chat about you know how you've said, no
one looks at you, right, that's the line, no one
looks at you. I'm looking at everyone. You say, no
one's judging you, But I'm judging.

Speaker 1 (06:24):
When you're looking what are you looking for and what
are you looking at?

Speaker 7 (06:27):
I'm judging everyone literally everything, So you're judging that. I'm
judging everybody.

Speaker 5 (06:32):
On the street.

Speaker 3 (06:33):
That's not helping me.

Speaker 7 (06:37):
Henious about people looking at me because I'm like, well
i'm looking at them, they're probably looking at me.

Speaker 2 (06:41):
I'm looking at them and I'm going hot.

Speaker 3 (06:43):
I do that as well.

Speaker 6 (06:44):
You know what, I think my social anxiety got way
worse from COVID.

Speaker 3 (06:49):
Like I don't think I was ever what don't roll your.

Speaker 2 (06:52):
Eyes trying not to. I'm not rolling my eyes at you.
I'm rolling my eyes. I'm rolling my eyes at the world.

Speaker 3 (06:58):
What do you mean? No offense? But you're quite ignorant
on this topic because you haven't.

Speaker 6 (07:04):
You haven't experienced it, So just open your mind a
little bit.

Speaker 1 (07:09):
I didn't audibly roll my eyes, but you could have
gone with it for the listeners.

Speaker 3 (07:16):
Yeah, but you couldn't have gone away for it with me.

Speaker 4 (07:18):
You were looking right at No, I didn't look at you.

Speaker 2 (07:20):
I love at the ceiling.

Speaker 3 (07:21):
You literally wentthers.

Speaker 7 (07:23):
You looked at her and in the ceiling and then
the other side.

Speaker 5 (07:27):
No.

Speaker 1 (07:28):
You know what's interesting to educate me? What did COVID do.
I'm not saying that accusationally. How did COVID make it worse?

Speaker 5 (07:36):
When you?

Speaker 6 (07:37):
I think when you have social anxiety, which I think
I have always.

Speaker 3 (07:41):
Had, the more you do it, the better you get
at it. And I'm the same.

Speaker 6 (07:46):
Email socialized Yeah, or like go to things or go
to the gym, Like for me as a person, if
I went to the gym, like in that area, not
the area that I go to. If I did it,
I'd get more and more comfortable, Like it's not something
which is the you know. And so the reason why
COVID makes it worse is because for such a long

(08:07):
time we were forced to not do anything and then
so it pulls you back steps.

Speaker 2 (08:17):
But are you know over it by now?

Speaker 7 (08:21):
COVID also taught us that other people equals bad. If
you're around other people, there's a bad thing. And that's
what my hangouts straight up to COVID, like being around people,
this is not right.

Speaker 5 (08:31):
And then you're like, oh wait, this is mine now.

Speaker 3 (08:33):
Yeah, you're aware of everything.

Speaker 1 (08:36):
Cod taught us that all the good things that we
that make us human and make the human existence illegal.

Speaker 6 (08:46):
But you know what, you know what when I and
I feel bad for saying that you're ignorant on this topic,
but this is the thing that I've learned throughout my life, right,
is that I think it's very very hard to understand
anxiety or even depression as well, because I've suffered with both.

(09:07):
For someone who's never experienced it, I don't blame them
for not understanding it all it at all, you know,
And I think it's completely normal to be really like,
I don't understand that because if you haven't been through
it very hard to understand.

Speaker 7 (09:22):
Yeah, I don't know what it's like to pee with
a penis because I've never done that.

Speaker 4 (09:26):
You never use a weed, No, actually haven't.

Speaker 3 (09:29):
And it's quite fun.

Speaker 5 (09:30):
It's fine, but it wouldn't be the same, right, you
have to still be.

Speaker 1 (09:33):
Quite unless they have invented like a long flexy one
so you can point it at.

Speaker 3 (09:37):
Things, a little motor. Definitely, that'd have that on t.

Speaker 7 (09:42):
It's a good market there, for sure. I remember how
we started this podcast Alisitude to pick with you?

Speaker 5 (09:47):
Was there actually your bone? Yes?

Speaker 8 (09:50):
You claimed that you.

Speaker 3 (09:56):
Not the what?

Speaker 6 (09:58):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (09:59):
Yeah, I am for you.

Speaker 4 (10:00):
You came.

Speaker 1 (10:02):
You came with the bones of it, and I gave
you the punchline. Yours is like what does a frog
do on the period pads or something?

Speaker 5 (10:08):
No, said Lily Pad?

Speaker 8 (10:09):
No, what what period products do frogs use?

Speaker 2 (10:14):
Okay, then I was joking. You made it up.

Speaker 3 (10:16):
I feel like I feel like I'm joking.

Speaker 6 (10:18):
Wait, I feel like I'm in that episode of Friends
where Ross and Chandler fight over whose joke was in
the what magazine was a joke?

Speaker 8 (10:27):
I was doing the whiteboard for the show, putting your
schedule together, and I'm like, God, I'm giving it to
I'm giving it to mean that I should never have
said it.

Speaker 1 (10:37):
I shouldn't have said it, especially not in the Tall
Bobby Garden. I shouldn't have said it.

Speaker 5 (10:41):
But genuinely, do you think you made that? It's so wrong.

Speaker 4 (10:46):
I thought about it straight away. I was like, why
did I do that?

Speaker 8 (10:49):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (10:50):
Why couldn't I just not do that?

Speaker 3 (10:52):
That's so funny.

Speaker 8 (10:53):
I'm working with you so much, patience.

Speaker 5 (10:56):
I remember you telling that joke.

Speaker 7 (10:59):
I think what Ella actually came up with the bits
of it, like she had all the bits, but I
think Clint helped you refine it.

Speaker 5 (11:06):
No, but you.

Speaker 3 (11:06):
Had any critic. Ella came up with the joke.

Speaker 8 (11:12):
I said, Lily, you did, I think this was another joke?

Speaker 3 (11:15):
Clint?

Speaker 2 (11:16):
Yeah, me too.

Speaker 5 (11:17):
No, you don't screw you. It's very well. You were
coming up with Friday.

Speaker 6 (11:20):
Ok, No, there was audio, and who do they think
they are?

Speaker 3 (11:26):
That's still up in the air because there's no audio. No,
that was definitely called. I was there for that, don't
even anyway.

Speaker 8 (11:32):
I love you guys, thanks for teaching me valuable life skills.

Speaker 7 (11:37):
Such as patience. Patience is standing up for is a great.

Speaker 4 (11:43):
You can I wish?

Speaker 2 (11:44):
I seldom found in women, often found in men.

Speaker 3 (11:47):
I feel, what was that bad to you?

Speaker 6 (11:50):
Joking?

Speaker 5 (11:51):
Wow, I'm definitely.

Speaker 3 (11:54):
I'm glad I called you ignorant. He h o t
t og o. You can take me hard.

Speaker 2 (12:06):
To go play Zidims Brian clint On Inser, Facebook, TikTok

Speaker 3 (12:11):
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