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Speaker 1 (00:16):
Scared Business. It's the fifth of August twenty twenty four.
Welcome all year Bespoke, you donkies to the Daily Bespoke podcast.
Just look at that one hundred meters one hundred meter
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means hundred meter final and you know you've got You've
got Bloody. Yeah, Noah Lyle's winning it with nine point
eight seven Tony Lyle wasn't it? Was it? Tony Lyle? Yes?
Speaker 2 (00:50):
Tony laugh.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
I mean that's impressive because no offense at Tony. He
does look like he has that in him.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
It does not look like you could run one hundred
meters and nine point eight seven seconds.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
Mean, no, I'm going to put that one back in
the pocket. What I was about to say that is
not going to get anyone good feedback.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
So noelh Lyles nine point eight seven and the Jamaican
Thompson he's nine point seven nins so nine points seven
nine seconds for Noel Liles, nine points seven nine seconds
for Thompson. Phenomenal. And then you've got Curly the American
third at nine point eight one. How life changing is
that the difference between So you've run it at the
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same speed nine point seven nine, nine point seven nine
but Noel Lyles chest was slightly forward. So he's won
by one thousandths of a second. That, I mean, what
will some thousandths of a second? I'm not sure how many.
And now he's a gold medal winning athlete and the
other guys a silver metal one. But the difference for
their lives will be so very different. And you actually
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wonder in your life the times when things happened that
was so close to happening, that didn't happen, or did
happen that have changed your life forever? Oh no, you
going the butterfly feed? Okay? Yeah, like the sliding doors situation.
I always think about Back of the Way, Masterpiece Television.
I just me and my friend Chris. We moved up
to Talklan. We started making the show on Triangle like
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Wayne's World. We would just foolm each other in our
lounge at our flat and then we'd do stunts in
the car park, and it got popular on community television
back when they had community television. So we had to
pay you to be on Triangle Television.
Speaker 3 (02:30):
Were you spending your were you spending like pocket money
that you guys had kind of picked.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
I was working full time in real groovy records just.
Speaker 3 (02:37):
So you get some screen time.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
Yeah, how much?
Speaker 2 (02:39):
How much would it cost you to get that?
Speaker 1 (02:40):
On Triangle? It was five hundred dollars an episode. That's
a lot. Then I sold sponsorship to a bunch of
different people and so that sort of got the money
and keep it going. And then there was just a
particular person that watched the show, just happened to watch
it and then pitched it to TV and Z and
then we started doing arts reports or whatever. But if
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that person hadn't seen that show and done that, then
my life would be very different, you know what I mean.
I wouldn't have had a media career because that everything
changed on that second, if you know what I mean.
Like I might have had a media career, but it's
been a very different media career. So there's all these
moments in your life that you know, that person could
have been taking a shit at that point and not
turned on a wounding community, like who would flick over
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to that channel?
Speaker 3 (03:24):
Yeah, I think that about what I'm doing right now.
As I went along to broadcasting school the open day,
because it may say that there was a good thing
to do, yeah, and I was like, well, I've got
nothing else to do, so I go along to that
and now look at me, same situation. I think that
about the sprints, though, when I watched the rowing, you know, yeah,
there's like a certain amount of like it almost felt
like where you are in the stride came down to
when the race is that close. It almost came down
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to luck, which is kind of.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
Almost because it's your tour. Though at one and thousands
of seconds, it also comes down to what breath you're
taking in or out.
Speaker 3 (03:53):
Yeah, and it might be of the rowing. It's the
same thing that you see at the end of a
rowing race and just the.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
Nose where you are and your oh yeah, yeah, that's
right in your stroke and yeah, it's the difference, Yeah
you're if you're at the end of it and pushing forward,
as opposed to yeah, you bet it. Yeah under it's
pretty it's pretty freaky. I was talking to my son
at the moment, who's finishing school and he's got to
decide what he's going to do next year, and I
was thinking about it. You don't know what the right
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decision is because there's these moments of and you definitely
make your luck by how hard you work and how
open you are to people. I think if you're a
constant asshole that does nothing and you sit in your room,
you know, playing online games, you're probably going to these
chances probably aren't going to pop up as much. You've
got to be out there in the world. I think,
communicating with many people as you can, and generally being
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a good person, although good stuff does happen to bad people.
But you don't know, like you could do the exact
right thing, Like you could study all the way through
school and go to med school and then that's the
wrong decision. You know, that might not work out for
you for whatever reason. Or you could take a gap
year and then you just meet the right person go
into business with them, or you follow you dream. For
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eight years, I was listening to Bill Simmons. He was
talking about how everyone thinks he was a success overnight
and he goes he ate shit. He said, he ate
shit for ten years writing little articles that no one read.
He was working in bars and writing these sports articles
where he was mixing pop culture with sport, and everyone
was like, you suck, piss off. No one wants to
mix those two things. And then suddenly he got the
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ESPN thing. And then he got fired from that and
then started The Ring a Verse and recently sold it
to Spotify for what was it two hundred and eighty
million or whatever it was.
Speaker 3 (05:29):
But I mean there are to know that.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
I mean, he he has he should have quit after
took one year because it was a stupid thing to do.
He just ate shit for years and years and years
and then was just in the game at the point
where it paid off.
Speaker 3 (05:42):
I mean, you and Well spoke about this when I
first met you guys. It was one of the early
podcasts that I remember sitting in on. But if you're not,
if you're not in a place where you can be
open to slightly weird things coming into your life from
you know, at any angle, then there's quite a good
joce that you'ren to miss out some pretty fucking incredible
things that happened like that opportunity why is ah?
Speaker 1 (06:01):
Yeah, And I think one of those things is that,
like at parties and stuff, actually listening to people instead
of instead of you delivering your shit if you can,
and we will forget once we've had a thousand drinks
that not to just talk about ourselves, but so many
amazing things happen when you just ask someone what they
do and listen to their response. Yeah, and even they
might be boring the shit out of you for three
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sentences and suddenly you're like, oh, this person does something
really fricking interesting.
Speaker 3 (06:27):
Yeah, you don't have to focus on what you're going
to say next, or what conversation you want to move
on to next, or and.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
Then five years, five years from now, that person texts
you and said, Hey, we meet at that party and
this is this thing that's happening, and I was wondering
if you wanted to be involved.
Speaker 3 (06:39):
That's also a slippery slope as well, because you might
get to the point where you're just never interested in anyone,
which is a very egotistic way to be, and that
can happen to people.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
I think a lot of people shut up shop completely.
Speaker 3 (06:47):
Oh yeah, there's a lot of people out there that
go out to a party on a night and go
whatever anyone says to me right now, that's just going
to go in one ear and out the other.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
Yeah. A lot of people that turn a party into
a social occasion into a photo shoot, so no one's
talking to each other. Everyone's just been corolled to stand
beside each other and get photoed. Yeah, that's just to
get photoed.
Speaker 3 (07:04):
I know, it's like when you and I so medic
what do you what would you call that photo?
Speaker 1 (07:08):
Photograph? Photograto getting photoed? Yeah, photograph.
Speaker 3 (07:14):
We went to the we went to the Wars on
fronto and I remember us sitting down and we're like, okay,
So I remember it being a conversation. We were both
fucking hammered and we both had to go okay, right,
we're gonna have to.
Speaker 1 (07:23):
Get a photo blasted up.
Speaker 3 (07:24):
But it was quite a big kind of you know,
there's it's all a bit you know, like uncomfortable, trying
get it over as quickly as possible. Just get it
over with quickly as possible. No one's looking, ye, no
one's looking. Now we're not going again. We're run and done.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
And I posted it up with the very very well
thought out at the Wars with MESHI.
Speaker 3 (07:42):
Yes, well, I thought I saw that was a great caption. Again,
you didn't want to over analyze any kind of social posts,
and that's what it made I thought about those types
of people that at parties that do not mind taking
forty five minutes to an hour to figure out a photo. Yeah, you,
and I got that photo done and about three seconds
and it was posted on Instagram.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
And acted like a cat taking a ship around and
scraped it and separated ourselves from it. I had to
post something up because the new edition of My Box out,
the fifth edition, and the publisher asked me to put
a post up, and it was like congratulations by the way,
and thinking, but I was so hungover after the war,
it's trying to do it. They were so full of
self hatred. I just went off into the other room
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from at my house and I took this picture and
I posted it up. And I was so full of
self hatred for some about doing it, because it was
sort of such blatant promotion. Yeah, then I put it
up and then it was that, and then I woke
up the next morning I took it down.
Speaker 3 (08:32):
I remember when I first got my like, you know,
when I firsted like as I suppose it's now known
as influencing. It's a hilarious thing posting stuff on your
Instagram when you're used to trying to be anti it,
you know, I'm always very anti influencing. And then they
of those did some brains that came on board and
they were very nice and they helped me out financially
and all that kind of stuff, And then you're posting
it and you're trying to find ways to still be
like anti your own posting is.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
Well, yeah, yeah, you run fifteen levels of irony on
top of it to try and defend yourself, but you're
still taking the money and you're still like when I
was doing the Wall to War, where I was I
was going to turn my Instagram to nothing but wall
to wall influencing.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
Yeah, but then I would have to do so much.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
I did a picture it would take me three hours
because I was like trying to think of the levels
of irony I could hide behind and still take the money.
Speaker 3 (09:16):
Because the idea initially was great. Yeah, but at the
moment you get stuck in sink into something like that
can be quite the project. You're right, we always had
irony and the ship, don't we. It's it's something to
ask you we do awfully. We talked about this with
musicians the other day.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
Yeah, that's right. And so I'll come back because I
did a speech at the Publishing Association of New Zealand
about trying to remove just be genuine and how freaking
hard it is to be genuine. So after these messages
that pay for this genuine chat, we'll be back to
talk more genuine, non commercial, real chat. All right, Okay,
then you've seen Busy back in a couple of minutes.
(09:57):
I want to apologize for saying it was another level
of irony and yeah that's what we're talking about, mate, Yeah,
because I was talking about the at this Publish Association
of New Zealand And and they were talking about, you know,
the thing was writing your first book and and the
levels of irony and bullshit you have to strip back
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to actually write as a New Zealand like, as a normal,
real human being from your heart so hard. It's actually
they talk about finding your voice and publishing where you
find where you're actually imparting information as you are. It's
hard to explain as opposed to an artifice. I mean,
if anyone's taken asseid before, and I haven't, but once
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I was shooting this ad and topor and and someone
and I take an asset.
Speaker 3 (10:44):
You have sucked this up already.
Speaker 1 (10:46):
But anyway, the spoke kind of silence, silence with an
act yeah, yeah, and then just realizing what a shtick
I was putting on I was going and you realize
that so much of what you put on as an act, Yeah,
and it's a stick you go into.
Speaker 3 (11:04):
I look at musicians as one of the key examples
yeah that do that, because I'm a massive georgsh Michael
Fane and there's so many humiliating type things that he's
done in his career, but since he have tried to
approach them with almost a level of earnesty, yeah, and
giving it a hundred percent and being genuine. Yea, it's
almost contagious. And there's so many other musicians that have
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done that.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
I really admire people musicians that can actually impart a
message that's true and emotional and touches the soul, because
that is so freaking vulnerable, like coming from a person
that was in a joke band. That's just you want
to play music and you want to be in a band,
but you don't actually want to say anything, so you
have a joke part of it. And that's so cowardly
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compared to saying something very real like have you heard
that song by that band Bright Days? This is the
first day of my line?
Speaker 2 (11:57):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (11:57):
Yes, that is so genuine. That's about how he feels
about this girl.
Speaker 3 (12:02):
Do you know how I feel the same way about
Dan Hills. Sometimes when we touch, Sometimes when we touch,
the honesty is too much. It should be a humiliating song. Yeah,
And the things that he says in it are not
okay and they don't really make sense. But since he
says it in such a genuine, honest manner, you go.
Speaker 1 (12:15):
Oh, this is a beautiful song. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (12:17):
And I think we need to start doing that more
because we always look to take the piss. Yeah, And
I think we've got to remember that it's important and
healthy to be honest sometimes and genuine, isn't it.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
Yeah. Actually, we were talking to Josh Tommy about this
actually on that podcast we had, and he was about, right,
how he is just constantly trying to find authenticity and
he and whilst he does have irony in his songs
as well, he's always trying to actually be authentic and
it's freaking hard to do because you lay yourself out
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there for criticism that would really hurt because because it's
criticism of who you actually are. And that's what I
kind of felt when my book came out. I was like,
this is who I actually am as opposed to dickhead.
I pretend to be. Any criticism is actually going to
be actually of me, rather than that layer of protection
of being a deck like the kid that I always
was at the back of the class yelling jokes when
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I was at school.
Speaker 3 (13:09):
That's fantastic and signal seriousness. Yeah, I can imagine, bro.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
But it'd be pretty. But also, you can't always be authentic.
Josh Homi said that as well. So if we did
a radio show on a podcast that was always authentic
would be too dry balls for people.
Speaker 3 (13:20):
It'd be like the Lewis Hamilton autobiography. Yeah, if anyone's
read that as Lewis Hamilton, I'm a big fan of them,
but Jesus Christ, it's just six hundred pages of almost
two on it, like just proper, genuine, earnest in yourself.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
Although that Andre Eggacy one was earnest but awesome.
Speaker 3 (13:36):
So that was awesome that one. Yeah, yeah, Okay, to
be fair, Lewis Hamilton's might be awesome.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
So where would we sit there If you're talking about
musicians songwriters that lay their soul bear for people to see,
and then you think of a song, for instance, I
Will Always Love You by Whitney Houston, which was not
written by Whitney Houston, but she's come along with this
beautiful voice.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
It was written by Dolly.
Speaker 2 (13:59):
Dolly Parton, and she's got this very well known, amazing
interpretation of it.
Speaker 1 (14:04):
But that I think that you can you don't have
to be you, it doesn't have to be your song,
deliver it authentically, so that some of the best performance
of the song of songs that were written by someone else.
I mean, all of Elton John's lyrics were helping, but
he delivers them with some frickin' sincerity.
Speaker 3 (14:22):
What was the gig that we all went to not
that long ago, I was when Fritigen was was Yeah,
and it was another observation that we made of his gig.
It was a similar type of thing where there was
not any kind of cynicism or nimism or jokes or
taking the purse.
Speaker 1 (14:36):
Or throw your loving arms around me.
Speaker 3 (14:38):
Yeah, it was all just beautiful, honest earnest.
Speaker 1 (14:40):
And so we're having a great day. Come on, you know,
we're all in this. And in fact, that was a
weird experience because it was this whole stadium full of
people that were kind of well a lot of them
are chewing their faces off, but there was a lot
of there was a lot of love and peace and
humanity room. And so for me, my ciner firing off
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and I'm like, no, no, we've got a who's some
I think you know Eddie Vedder's pretty He writes pretty personal.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
Songs usually usually doesn't he well, he didn't when he
didn't write Oh Where Where can Be? He didn't write
that one. It's an old, like nineteen fifty song that
they re recorded for their friend who worked at a.
Speaker 1 (15:24):
Record company or something.
Speaker 2 (15:25):
Yeah, very strange run, but yeah, normally it's like right
deep into balls of Vedda.
Speaker 1 (15:30):
And there was something I saw these people talking about it.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
Who was it?
Speaker 1 (15:32):
I can't remember. They were some comedians, but they were
talking about can you try and actually sing someone else's
song sincerely without being a dick? Like if you tried
to sing I don't know what the song was.
Speaker 3 (15:48):
The meaning, Like I know what you're saying here, because
like if you're driving in the car or something, Yeah,
that to sing along, that voice that you do to
sing along, yeah, is not if you're being honest, it's
not one hundred I seen you trying to genuinely sing,
is it?
Speaker 2 (16:02):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (16:02):
But you see those genuine singers and they get their
hand there in the moment and when its in a
trance where their emotion of the song and the lyrics
and the music is that one with what they're doing,
and it's quite incredible to watch. I mean, when you're
performing alluded to, you get into that state or are you?
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I mean, you've got to keep in mind that you're
there to entertain.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
I can quite easily get into that state depending on
what the song is. Like a song that I've heard
and sung so many times, which is three M by
Matchbox twenty, and I'm really on Sometimes I actually really
like Matchbox twenty and sometimes I dislike them because I
find their songs actually quite personal. And that one, in
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particular is Rob Thomas wrote that song when his mum
had cancer, and I believe she pulled through it, but
she used to wake up in the middle of the
night and blah blah blah blah blah. And I was
actually an a an italent competition one day against all
of these really good singers, and someone said to me,
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you're gonna have to do something really spectacular to get
past all of these good singers. Yeah, And so all
week I lined it up and I wrung the hosts
and I was like, oh, hey, I might not actually
be turning up for the Talent Contest.
Speaker 1 (17:19):
This week, but I don't worry.
Speaker 2 (17:22):
I asked just something to do with my mum, and
I got up and at the start of that song,
I was like, hey, oh, and I was really like
within myself and I said, I'm just going to perform
this song. Rob Thomas wrote this song for his This
is a massive for his mum and she was dying
of cancer and that's just really personal for me right now.
Speaker 1 (17:42):
And I performed.
Speaker 2 (17:43):
Oh, I performed the song and I got to the
end of it and absolutely broke down and tears at
the end of it. Wow, that's very, very, very genuinely,
that's real. And I didn't get through to the next round.
And my whole thing was that I was going to
go by the way, that was all an act. But
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the host, the host, the host of the event was
actually former broadcast Tony and yeah, he chased me because
he worried that I was very upset and was about
to jump into the auctiond viaduct got me a beer
that night, So yeah, I guess the thing is you can.
Speaker 1 (18:24):
Kick me out.
Speaker 2 (18:25):
The thing is that, yes you can.
Speaker 1 (18:27):
That's terrible. What I did there was terrible. That's exactly
what we're doing here a moment and then I shout
on it. Sorry.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
But my point is that, yes, you can get yourself
into these moments and songs. Yeah, but then what about
a song like your horny let's do it? Come right on,
my pony? Can you really chuck much?
Speaker 1 (18:47):
What I find horny is an emotion I can get
and be quite genuine about. That's a good point.
Speaker 3 (18:51):
You haven't thought about that.
Speaker 2 (18:53):
I'm too sexy for my cat.
Speaker 3 (18:56):
But this is seriously though, the way that they so
right said Fred for example, saying I'm too sixy for
my shirt or whatever, there's still kind of a level
of Yeah, like the way that he sings that song
there is almost a genuine thing.
Speaker 1 (19:09):
And it's sort of about a community, and it was
sort of a statement about something. I mean, I guess
you could find some Yeah, I don't know what about
the song here. Can I just play a little bit
of this year and hopefully we don't get in copyright issues.
But the song here I think is quite genuine for it.
Speaker 3 (19:36):
I mean, it's pretty, isn't it.
Speaker 2 (19:38):
If we talk all over it, probably it's fine for
us to play it.
Speaker 4 (19:43):
This is the first day of my life on a sort.
Speaker 1 (19:48):
So I was born, wrote in the doorway. We're not
in marine.
Speaker 3 (19:54):
Something everything changed.
Speaker 1 (19:56):
They're spreading blankets on It was the first day of
my life by bright Eyes. But it's just something about it,
you know, like he's that line, you know, like when
he decides he really loves this woman, and he talks
about how it might not work out and all this
kind of stuff, but he feels like he was born
in the moment that she arrives, you know, something quite
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freaking genuine about it. But maybe he's putting on a
bit of a funny voice. I don't know, but that song,
for some reason, that song gets me.
Speaker 3 (20:28):
Yeah, that's the way I feel about, like, if I
want to have a bit of an emotional time to
a song, Kat Steve just thinking of father and.
Speaker 1 (20:35):
Could you hit a more genuine, deep freaking song.
Speaker 3 (20:40):
I can't even put that song on it and in
casual sitting anymore because I'll be just been that guy
in the corner that's starting to really go into his
own head and start thinking about his relationship with his father,
which is just a little bit too much for a
party Hemisphere. That's not a song that I think of.
Speaker 2 (20:51):
We had going Deep again when my father passed away
in September last year, and we were pretty on songs
for him to listen to because we were aware for
the last sort of five or six hours what was happening,
and so we'd find songs that we thought he'd enjoy
because he was still awake and everything. He just couldn't
tell us what songs he wanted, which was quite fun
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because I just wanted to go, what do you want
to hear? But he was enjoying what we're putting on.
And we put on some Cat Stevens and I saw
father and son on it, and I was like, I can't.
I cannot even put that on because I knew everyone
in the room would break.
Speaker 3 (21:25):
It'll be too Did you fire it up?
Speaker 1 (21:28):
Did you? No? We didn't.
Speaker 2 (21:29):
We had Morning Is Broken was in there, yep? And
peace Train.
Speaker 3 (21:34):
I think peace Train is a little bit more of Yes, Yeah,
that makes sense.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
I've got this hit of this one more for us.
Speaker 3 (21:42):
Before we wrap things up.
Speaker 1 (21:43):
I'll just if I can work this out here just
second lift.
Speaker 3 (21:48):
We're in a podcast, mate, there's no rush. We can
just float around for as long as we want.
Speaker 1 (21:52):
People just leave us on.
Speaker 2 (21:53):
And just how close you met?
Speaker 1 (21:56):
How close are you?
Speaker 2 (21:58):
Let's not make it late, No, because I've got a
little story I could inject. Okay, cool, cool, because something
that I think is funny about meanings of songs is
then you think about Champagne Soup and Over by Oasis,
and Noel Gallagher has said, I have no fucking idea
what that song's about. But I look out and I
see these shirtless British white pale gits singing and every
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single one of them has an idea what the song
is about to them.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
Yeah, that's interesting. This is the play this to play
this a few times because this makes me cry. And
this is when I went to father and Son with
my son and we sang father and Son together. My
face I was my face, I pissed out of my
son face so hard. You've got a blast. This is
too much. And so this is this is him recording
that he did for Father's Day for me when he
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was already eight years old.
Speaker 2 (22:50):
Two itch not time?
Speaker 1 (22:54):
Oh what does it stop?
Speaker 3 (22:56):
Jesus?
Speaker 1 (23:01):
That song that always gets me.
Speaker 3 (23:03):
There bit of audio because that because Charlie.
Speaker 1 (23:06):
That's Charlie and he's how old now he's seventeen? Now,
oh god, to fucking just one second. I just have
to get it to blasphemy and the ass. It's like
I shouldn't have said that. That's yeah. For some reason,
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everything nothing on this computer ever works when you need it.
That sounds about hello, get all right, okay, well that's
sort of on the moment. Just once you're going to say,
let's see if it will play here, I'm just miss.
Speaker 4 (23:43):
Two three. It's not time to make a change. Just
blast still ju that your phone, hill bunch. You have
to know, find a girl shadow down if you want,
(24:06):
you can mad be you'll get me. I am, but
I'm happy.
Speaker 1 (24:16):
I was once like you wander embarrassed. Thats talking over
at the background.
Speaker 4 (24:22):
It's not easy to be calm when you find.
Speaker 3 (24:27):
Shopping you.
Speaker 4 (24:30):
Wanted to come in by line shadow down, allow that
kind think of everything. You're just behead to marble.
Speaker 3 (24:42):
But your deep came not.
Speaker 1 (24:48):
It went out.
Speaker 4 (24:53):
Man.
Speaker 1 (24:54):
So for me, when my son is at the age
now we're what it says in that song about how
your son has to go Jesus Christ. That that hits
me hard and the fact he doesn't have that lisp anymore.
Speaker 3 (25:15):
It's a lovely note to finish it on genuinely next
years it was a good podcast that.
Speaker 1 (25:20):
Wells here to just you know, love the lower the
tone be a creep. You know, we can actually you know,
I don't want to ruin that moment with having a
go with someone, but you know what I mean, Jerry
would Jerry glazes over whenever you get into anything that's
slightly deep. The robot, yeah, he goes if it doesn't
have dollar signs on the end of it is you know,
actually know, Jerry's a lovely guy. He's probably one of
(25:41):
my most sincere, lovely human beings he ever met. I can't,
I can't, I can't belave it running about like that.
Speaker 3 (25:49):
My challenge for you bespokey dokies tonight, go out there,
find some moments of genuine happiness and put.
Speaker 1 (25:54):
The put the stylist on the actual record, and if
you can any moments you can do that? Should you?
All right? Okay, all right you seem since here. I'm
gonna let you go. It's hugged all right, bye, love
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Welcome all year Bespoke, you donkies to the Daily Bespoke podcast.
Just look at that one hundred meters one hundred meter
(00:37):
means hundred meter final and you know you've got You've
got Bloody. Yeah, Noah Lyle's winning it with nine point
eight seven Tony Lyle wasn't it? Was it? Tony Lyle? Yes?
Speaker 2 (00:50):
Tony laugh.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
I mean that's impressive because no offense at Tony. He
does look like he has that in him.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
It does not look like you could run one hundred
meters and nine point eight seven seconds.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
Mean, no, I'm going to put that one back in
the pocket. What I was about to say that is
not going to get anyone good feedback.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
So noelh Lyles nine point eight seven and the Jamaican
Thompson he's nine point seven nins so nine points seven
nine seconds for Noel Liles, nine points seven nine seconds
for Thompson. Phenomenal. And then you've got Curly the American
third at nine point eight one. How life changing is
that the difference between So you've run it at the
(01:28):
same speed nine point seven nine, nine point seven nine
but Noel Lyles chest was slightly forward. So he's won
by one thousandths of a second. That, I mean, what
will some thousandths of a second? I'm not sure how many.
And now he's a gold medal winning athlete and the
other guys a silver metal one. But the difference for
their lives will be so very different. And you actually
(01:53):
wonder in your life the times when things happened that
was so close to happening, that didn't happen, or did
happen that have changed your life forever? Oh no, you
going the butterfly feed? Okay? Yeah, like the sliding doors situation.
I always think about Back of the Way, Masterpiece Television.
I just me and my friend Chris. We moved up
to Talklan. We started making the show on Triangle like
(02:14):
Wayne's World. We would just foolm each other in our
lounge at our flat and then we'd do stunts in
the car park, and it got popular on community television
back when they had community television. So we had to
pay you to be on Triangle Television.
Speaker 3 (02:30):
Were you spending your were you spending like pocket money
that you guys had kind of picked.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
I was working full time in real groovy records just.
Speaker 3 (02:37):
So you get some screen time.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
Yeah, how much?
Speaker 2 (02:39):
How much would it cost you to get that?
Speaker 1 (02:40):
On Triangle? It was five hundred dollars an episode. That's
a lot. Then I sold sponsorship to a bunch of
different people and so that sort of got the money
and keep it going. And then there was just a
particular person that watched the show, just happened to watch
it and then pitched it to TV and Z and
then we started doing arts reports or whatever. But if
(03:00):
that person hadn't seen that show and done that, then
my life would be very different, you know what I mean.
I wouldn't have had a media career because that everything
changed on that second, if you know what I mean.
Like I might have had a media career, but it's
been a very different media career. So there's all these
moments in your life that you know, that person could
have been taking a shit at that point and not
turned on a wounding community, like who would flick over
(03:23):
to that channel?
Speaker 3 (03:24):
Yeah, I think that about what I'm doing right now.
As I went along to broadcasting school the open day,
because it may say that there was a good thing
to do, yeah, and I was like, well, I've got
nothing else to do, so I go along to that
and now look at me, same situation. I think that
about the sprints, though, when I watched the rowing, you know, yeah,
there's like a certain amount of like it almost felt
like where you are in the stride came down to
when the race is that close. It almost came down
(03:45):
to luck, which is kind of.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
Almost because it's your tour. Though at one and thousands
of seconds, it also comes down to what breath you're
taking in or out.
Speaker 3 (03:53):
Yeah, and it might be of the rowing. It's the
same thing that you see at the end of a
rowing race and just the.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
Nose where you are and your oh yeah, yeah, that's
right in your stroke and yeah, it's the difference, Yeah
you're if you're at the end of it and pushing forward,
as opposed to yeah, you bet it. Yeah under it's
pretty it's pretty freaky. I was talking to my son
at the moment, who's finishing school and he's got to
decide what he's going to do next year, and I
was thinking about it. You don't know what the right
(04:17):
decision is because there's these moments of and you definitely
make your luck by how hard you work and how
open you are to people. I think if you're a
constant asshole that does nothing and you sit in your room,
you know, playing online games, you're probably going to these
chances probably aren't going to pop up as much. You've
got to be out there in the world. I think,
communicating with many people as you can, and generally being
(04:40):
a good person, although good stuff does happen to bad people.
But you don't know, like you could do the exact
right thing, Like you could study all the way through
school and go to med school and then that's the
wrong decision. You know, that might not work out for
you for whatever reason. Or you could take a gap
year and then you just meet the right person go
into business with them, or you follow you dream. For
(05:00):
eight years, I was listening to Bill Simmons. He was
talking about how everyone thinks he was a success overnight
and he goes he ate shit. He said, he ate
shit for ten years writing little articles that no one read.
He was working in bars and writing these sports articles
where he was mixing pop culture with sport, and everyone
was like, you suck, piss off. No one wants to
mix those two things. And then suddenly he got the
(05:22):
ESPN thing. And then he got fired from that and
then started The Ring a Verse and recently sold it
to Spotify for what was it two hundred and eighty
million or whatever it was.
Speaker 3 (05:29):
But I mean there are to know that.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
I mean, he he has he should have quit after
took one year because it was a stupid thing to do.
He just ate shit for years and years and years
and then was just in the game at the point
where it paid off.
Speaker 3 (05:42):
I mean, you and Well spoke about this when I
first met you guys. It was one of the early
podcasts that I remember sitting in on. But if you're not,
if you're not in a place where you can be
open to slightly weird things coming into your life from
you know, at any angle, then there's quite a good
joce that you'ren to miss out some pretty fucking incredible
things that happened like that opportunity why is ah?
Speaker 1 (06:01):
Yeah, And I think one of those things is that,
like at parties and stuff, actually listening to people instead
of instead of you delivering your shit if you can,
and we will forget once we've had a thousand drinks
that not to just talk about ourselves, but so many
amazing things happen when you just ask someone what they
do and listen to their response. Yeah, and even they
might be boring the shit out of you for three
(06:22):
sentences and suddenly you're like, oh, this person does something
really fricking interesting.
Speaker 3 (06:27):
Yeah, you don't have to focus on what you're going
to say next, or what conversation you want to move
on to next, or and.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
Then five years, five years from now, that person texts
you and said, Hey, we meet at that party and
this is this thing that's happening, and I was wondering
if you wanted to be involved.
Speaker 3 (06:39):
That's also a slippery slope as well, because you might
get to the point where you're just never interested in anyone,
which is a very egotistic way to be, and that
can happen to people.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
I think a lot of people shut up shop completely.
Speaker 3 (06:47):
Oh yeah, there's a lot of people out there that
go out to a party on a night and go
whatever anyone says to me right now, that's just going
to go in one ear and out the other.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
Yeah. A lot of people that turn a party into
a social occasion into a photo shoot, so no one's
talking to each other. Everyone's just been corolled to stand
beside each other and get photoed. Yeah, that's just to
get photoed.
Speaker 3 (07:04):
I know, it's like when you and I so medic
what do you what would you call that photo?
Speaker 1 (07:08):
Photograph? Photograto getting photoed? Yeah, photograph.
Speaker 3 (07:14):
We went to the we went to the Wars on
fronto and I remember us sitting down and we're like, okay,
So I remember it being a conversation. We were both
fucking hammered and we both had to go okay, right,
we're gonna have to.
Speaker 1 (07:23):
Get a photo blasted up.
Speaker 3 (07:24):
But it was quite a big kind of you know,
there's it's all a bit you know, like uncomfortable, trying
get it over as quickly as possible. Just get it
over with quickly as possible. No one's looking, ye, no
one's looking. Now we're not going again. We're run and done.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
And I posted it up with the very very well
thought out at the Wars with MESHI.
Speaker 3 (07:42):
Yes, well, I thought I saw that was a great caption. Again,
you didn't want to over analyze any kind of social posts,
and that's what it made I thought about those types
of people that at parties that do not mind taking
forty five minutes to an hour to figure out a photo. Yeah, you,
and I got that photo done and about three seconds
and it was posted on Instagram.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
And acted like a cat taking a ship around and
scraped it and separated ourselves from it. I had to
post something up because the new edition of My Box out,
the fifth edition, and the publisher asked me to put
a post up, and it was like congratulations by the way,
and thinking, but I was so hungover after the war,
it's trying to do it. They were so full of
self hatred. I just went off into the other room
(08:18):
from at my house and I took this picture and
I posted it up. And I was so full of
self hatred for some about doing it, because it was
sort of such blatant promotion. Yeah, then I put it
up and then it was that, and then I woke
up the next morning I took it down.
Speaker 3 (08:32):
I remember when I first got my like, you know,
when I firsted like as I suppose it's now known
as influencing. It's a hilarious thing posting stuff on your
Instagram when you're used to trying to be anti it,
you know, I'm always very anti influencing. And then they
of those did some brains that came on board and
they were very nice and they helped me out financially
and all that kind of stuff, And then you're posting
it and you're trying to find ways to still be
like anti your own posting is.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
Well, yeah, yeah, you run fifteen levels of irony on
top of it to try and defend yourself, but you're
still taking the money and you're still like when I
was doing the Wall to War, where I was I
was going to turn my Instagram to nothing but wall
to wall influencing.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
Yeah, but then I would have to do so much.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
I did a picture it would take me three hours
because I was like trying to think of the levels
of irony I could hide behind and still take the money.
Speaker 3 (09:16):
Because the idea initially was great. Yeah, but at the
moment you get stuck in sink into something like that
can be quite the project. You're right, we always had
irony and the ship, don't we. It's it's something to
ask you we do awfully. We talked about this with
musicians the other day.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
Yeah, that's right. And so I'll come back because I
did a speech at the Publishing Association of New Zealand
about trying to remove just be genuine and how freaking
hard it is to be genuine. So after these messages
that pay for this genuine chat, we'll be back to
talk more genuine, non commercial, real chat. All right, Okay,
then you've seen Busy back in a couple of minutes.
(09:57):
I want to apologize for saying it was another level
of irony and yeah that's what we're talking about, mate, Yeah,
because I was talking about the at this Publish Association
of New Zealand And and they were talking about, you know,
the thing was writing your first book and and the
levels of irony and bullshit you have to strip back
(10:18):
to actually write as a New Zealand like, as a normal,
real human being from your heart so hard. It's actually
they talk about finding your voice and publishing where you
find where you're actually imparting information as you are. It's
hard to explain as opposed to an artifice. I mean,
if anyone's taken asseid before, and I haven't, but once
(10:40):
I was shooting this ad and topor and and someone
and I take an asset.
Speaker 3 (10:44):
You have sucked this up already.
Speaker 1 (10:46):
But anyway, the spoke kind of silence, silence with an
act yeah, yeah, and then just realizing what a shtick
I was putting on I was going and you realize
that so much of what you put on as an act, Yeah,
and it's a stick you go into.
Speaker 3 (11:04):
I look at musicians as one of the key examples
yeah that do that, because I'm a massive georgsh Michael
Fane and there's so many humiliating type things that he's
done in his career, but since he have tried to
approach them with almost a level of earnesty, yeah, and
giving it a hundred percent and being genuine. Yea, it's
almost contagious. And there's so many other musicians that have
(11:25):
done that.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
I really admire people musicians that can actually impart a
message that's true and emotional and touches the soul, because
that is so freaking vulnerable, like coming from a person
that was in a joke band. That's just you want
to play music and you want to be in a band,
but you don't actually want to say anything, so you
have a joke part of it. And that's so cowardly
(11:48):
compared to saying something very real like have you heard
that song by that band Bright Days? This is the
first day of my line?
Speaker 2 (11:57):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (11:57):
Yes, that is so genuine. That's about how he feels
about this girl.
Speaker 3 (12:02):
Do you know how I feel the same way about
Dan Hills. Sometimes when we touch, Sometimes when we touch,
the honesty is too much. It should be a humiliating song. Yeah,
And the things that he says in it are not
okay and they don't really make sense. But since he
says it in such a genuine, honest manner, you go.
Speaker 1 (12:15):
Oh, this is a beautiful song. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (12:17):
And I think we need to start doing that more
because we always look to take the piss. Yeah, And
I think we've got to remember that it's important and
healthy to be honest sometimes and genuine, isn't it.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
Yeah. Actually, we were talking to Josh Tommy about this
actually on that podcast we had, and he was about, right,
how he is just constantly trying to find authenticity and
he and whilst he does have irony in his songs
as well, he's always trying to actually be authentic and
it's freaking hard to do because you lay yourself out
(12:46):
there for criticism that would really hurt because because it's
criticism of who you actually are. And that's what I
kind of felt when my book came out. I was like,
this is who I actually am as opposed to dickhead.
I pretend to be. Any criticism is actually going to
be actually of me, rather than that layer of protection
of being a deck like the kid that I always
was at the back of the class yelling jokes when
(13:08):
I was at school.
Speaker 3 (13:09):
That's fantastic and signal seriousness. Yeah, I can imagine, bro.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
But it'd be pretty. But also, you can't always be authentic.
Josh Homi said that as well. So if we did
a radio show on a podcast that was always authentic
would be too dry balls for people.
Speaker 3 (13:20):
It'd be like the Lewis Hamilton autobiography. Yeah, if anyone's
read that as Lewis Hamilton, I'm a big fan of them,
but Jesus Christ, it's just six hundred pages of almost
two on it, like just proper, genuine, earnest in yourself.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
Although that Andre Eggacy one was earnest but awesome.
Speaker 3 (13:36):
So that was awesome that one. Yeah, yeah, Okay, to
be fair, Lewis Hamilton's might be awesome.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
So where would we sit there If you're talking about
musicians songwriters that lay their soul bear for people to see,
and then you think of a song, for instance, I
Will Always Love You by Whitney Houston, which was not
written by Whitney Houston, but she's come along with this
beautiful voice.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
It was written by Dolly.
Speaker 2 (13:59):
Dolly Parton, and she's got this very well known, amazing
interpretation of it.
Speaker 1 (14:04):
But that I think that you can you don't have
to be you, it doesn't have to be your song,
deliver it authentically, so that some of the best performance
of the song of songs that were written by someone else.
I mean, all of Elton John's lyrics were helping, but
he delivers them with some frickin' sincerity.
Speaker 3 (14:22):
What was the gig that we all went to not
that long ago, I was when Fritigen was was Yeah,
and it was another observation that we made of his gig.
It was a similar type of thing where there was
not any kind of cynicism or nimism or jokes or
taking the purse.
Speaker 1 (14:36):
Or throw your loving arms around me.
Speaker 3 (14:38):
Yeah, it was all just beautiful, honest earnest.
Speaker 1 (14:40):
And so we're having a great day. Come on, you know,
we're all in this. And in fact, that was a
weird experience because it was this whole stadium full of
people that were kind of well a lot of them
are chewing their faces off, but there was a lot
of there was a lot of love and peace and
humanity room. And so for me, my ciner firing off
(15:01):
and I'm like, no, no, we've got a who's some
I think you know Eddie Vedder's pretty He writes pretty personal.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
Songs usually usually doesn't he well, he didn't when he
didn't write Oh Where Where can Be? He didn't write
that one. It's an old, like nineteen fifty song that
they re recorded for their friend who worked at a.
Speaker 1 (15:24):
Record company or something.
Speaker 2 (15:25):
Yeah, very strange run, but yeah, normally it's like right
deep into balls of Vedda.
Speaker 1 (15:30):
And there was something I saw these people talking about it.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
Who was it?
Speaker 1 (15:32):
I can't remember. They were some comedians, but they were
talking about can you try and actually sing someone else's
song sincerely without being a dick? Like if you tried
to sing I don't know what the song was.
Speaker 3 (15:48):
The meaning, Like I know what you're saying here, because
like if you're driving in the car or something, Yeah,
that to sing along, that voice that you do to
sing along, yeah, is not if you're being honest, it's
not one hundred I seen you trying to genuinely sing,
is it?
Speaker 2 (16:02):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (16:02):
But you see those genuine singers and they get their
hand there in the moment and when its in a
trance where their emotion of the song and the lyrics
and the music is that one with what they're doing,
and it's quite incredible to watch. I mean, when you're
performing alluded to, you get into that state or are you?
(16:24):
I mean, you've got to keep in mind that you're
there to entertain.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
I can quite easily get into that state depending on
what the song is. Like a song that I've heard
and sung so many times, which is three M by
Matchbox twenty, and I'm really on Sometimes I actually really
like Matchbox twenty and sometimes I dislike them because I
find their songs actually quite personal. And that one, in
(16:48):
particular is Rob Thomas wrote that song when his mum
had cancer, and I believe she pulled through it, but
she used to wake up in the middle of the
night and blah blah blah blah blah. And I was
actually an a an italent competition one day against all
of these really good singers, and someone said to me,
(17:08):
you're gonna have to do something really spectacular to get
past all of these good singers. Yeah, And so all
week I lined it up and I wrung the hosts
and I was like, oh, hey, I might not actually
be turning up for the Talent Contest.
Speaker 1 (17:19):
This week, but I don't worry.
Speaker 2 (17:22):
I asked just something to do with my mum, and
I got up and at the start of that song,
I was like, hey, oh, and I was really like
within myself and I said, I'm just going to perform
this song. Rob Thomas wrote this song for his This
is a massive for his mum and she was dying
of cancer and that's just really personal for me right now.
Speaker 1 (17:42):
And I performed.
Speaker 2 (17:43):
Oh, I performed the song and I got to the
end of it and absolutely broke down and tears at
the end of it. Wow, that's very, very, very genuinely,
that's real. And I didn't get through to the next round.
And my whole thing was that I was going to
go by the way, that was all an act. But
(18:03):
the host, the host, the host of the event was
actually former broadcast Tony and yeah, he chased me because
he worried that I was very upset and was about
to jump into the auctiond viaduct got me a beer
that night, So yeah, I guess the thing is you can.
Speaker 1 (18:24):
Kick me out.
Speaker 2 (18:25):
The thing is that, yes you can.
Speaker 1 (18:27):
That's terrible. What I did there was terrible. That's exactly
what we're doing here a moment and then I shout
on it. Sorry.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
But my point is that, yes, you can get yourself
into these moments and songs. Yeah, but then what about
a song like your horny let's do it? Come right on,
my pony? Can you really chuck much?
Speaker 1 (18:47):
What I find horny is an emotion I can get
and be quite genuine about. That's a good point.
Speaker 3 (18:51):
You haven't thought about that.
Speaker 2 (18:53):
I'm too sexy for my cat.
Speaker 3 (18:56):
But this is seriously though, the way that they so
right said Fred for example, saying I'm too sixy for
my shirt or whatever, there's still kind of a level
of Yeah, like the way that he sings that song
there is almost a genuine thing.
Speaker 1 (19:09):
And it's sort of about a community, and it was
sort of a statement about something. I mean, I guess
you could find some Yeah, I don't know what about
the song here. Can I just play a little bit
of this year and hopefully we don't get in copyright issues.
But the song here I think is quite genuine for it.
Speaker 3 (19:36):
I mean, it's pretty, isn't it.
Speaker 2 (19:38):
If we talk all over it, probably it's fine for
us to play it.
Speaker 4 (19:43):
This is the first day of my life on a sort.
Speaker 1 (19:48):
So I was born, wrote in the doorway. We're not
in marine.
Speaker 3 (19:54):
Something everything changed.
Speaker 1 (19:56):
They're spreading blankets on It was the first day of
my life by bright Eyes. But it's just something about it,
you know, like he's that line, you know, like when
he decides he really loves this woman, and he talks
about how it might not work out and all this
kind of stuff, but he feels like he was born
in the moment that she arrives, you know, something quite
(20:21):
freaking genuine about it. But maybe he's putting on a
bit of a funny voice. I don't know, but that song,
for some reason, that song gets me.
Speaker 3 (20:28):
Yeah, that's the way I feel about, like, if I
want to have a bit of an emotional time to
a song, Kat Steve just thinking of father and.
Speaker 1 (20:35):
Could you hit a more genuine, deep freaking song.
Speaker 3 (20:40):
I can't even put that song on it and in
casual sitting anymore because I'll be just been that guy
in the corner that's starting to really go into his
own head and start thinking about his relationship with his father,
which is just a little bit too much for a
party Hemisphere. That's not a song that I think of.
Speaker 2 (20:51):
We had going Deep again when my father passed away
in September last year, and we were pretty on songs
for him to listen to because we were aware for
the last sort of five or six hours what was happening,
and so we'd find songs that we thought he'd enjoy
because he was still awake and everything. He just couldn't
tell us what songs he wanted, which was quite fun
(21:12):
because I just wanted to go, what do you want
to hear? But he was enjoying what we're putting on.
And we put on some Cat Stevens and I saw
father and son on it, and I was like, I can't.
I cannot even put that on because I knew everyone
in the room would break.
Speaker 3 (21:25):
It'll be too Did you fire it up?
Speaker 1 (21:28):
Did you? No? We didn't.
Speaker 2 (21:29):
We had Morning Is Broken was in there, yep? And
peace Train.
Speaker 3 (21:34):
I think peace Train is a little bit more of Yes, Yeah,
that makes sense.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
I've got this hit of this one more for us.
Speaker 3 (21:42):
Before we wrap things up.
Speaker 1 (21:43):
I'll just if I can work this out here just
second lift.
Speaker 3 (21:48):
We're in a podcast, mate, there's no rush. We can
just float around for as long as we want.
Speaker 1 (21:52):
People just leave us on.
Speaker 2 (21:53):
And just how close you met?
Speaker 1 (21:56):
How close are you?
Speaker 2 (21:58):
Let's not make it late, No, because I've got a
little story I could inject. Okay, cool, cool, because something
that I think is funny about meanings of songs is
then you think about Champagne Soup and Over by Oasis,
and Noel Gallagher has said, I have no fucking idea
what that song's about. But I look out and I
see these shirtless British white pale gits singing and every
(22:21):
single one of them has an idea what the song
is about to them.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
Yeah, that's interesting. This is the play this to play
this a few times because this makes me cry. And
this is when I went to father and Son with
my son and we sang father and Son together. My
face I was my face, I pissed out of my
son face so hard. You've got a blast. This is
too much. And so this is this is him recording
that he did for Father's Day for me when he
(22:45):
was already eight years old.
Speaker 2 (22:50):
Two itch not time?
Speaker 1 (22:54):
Oh what does it stop?
Speaker 3 (22:56):
Jesus?
Speaker 1 (23:01):
That song that always gets me.
Speaker 3 (23:03):
There bit of audio because that because Charlie.
Speaker 1 (23:06):
That's Charlie and he's how old now he's seventeen? Now,
oh god, to fucking just one second. I just have
to get it to blasphemy and the ass. It's like
I shouldn't have said that. That's yeah. For some reason,
(23:26):
everything nothing on this computer ever works when you need it.
That sounds about hello, get all right, okay, well that's
sort of on the moment. Just once you're going to say,
let's see if it will play here, I'm just miss.
Speaker 4 (23:43):
Two three. It's not time to make a change. Just
blast still ju that your phone, hill bunch. You have
to know, find a girl shadow down if you want,
(24:06):
you can mad be you'll get me. I am, but
I'm happy.
Speaker 1 (24:16):
I was once like you wander embarrassed. Thats talking over
at the background.
Speaker 4 (24:22):
It's not easy to be calm when you find.
Speaker 3 (24:27):
Shopping you.
Speaker 4 (24:30):
Wanted to come in by line shadow down, allow that
kind think of everything. You're just behead to marble.
Speaker 3 (24:42):
But your deep came not.
Speaker 1 (24:48):
It went out.
Speaker 4 (24:53):
Man.
Speaker 1 (24:54):
So for me, when my son is at the age
now we're what it says in that song about how
your son has to go Jesus Christ. That that hits
me hard and the fact he doesn't have that lisp anymore.
Speaker 3 (25:15):
It's a lovely note to finish it on genuinely next
years it was a good podcast that.
Speaker 1 (25:20):
Wells here to just you know, love the lower the
tone be a creep. You know, we can actually you know,
I don't want to ruin that moment with having a
go with someone, but you know what I mean, Jerry
would Jerry glazes over whenever you get into anything that's
slightly deep. The robot, yeah, he goes if it doesn't
have dollar signs on the end of it is you know,
actually know, Jerry's a lovely guy. He's probably one of
(25:41):
my most sincere, lovely human beings he ever met. I can't,
I can't, I can't belave it running about like that.
Speaker 3 (25:49):
My challenge for you bespokey dokies tonight, go out there,
find some moments of genuine happiness and put.
Speaker 1 (25:54):
The put the stylist on the actual record, and if
you can any moments you can do that? Should you?
All right? Okay, all right you seem since here. I'm
gonna let you go. It's hugged all right, bye, love
you guys. Hello, I'm Matt Heath. You have been listening
to the Matt and Jerry Daily Bespoke podcast. Right now
you can listen to our Radio Highlights podcast, which you
(26:15):
will absolutely get barred up about anyway, Sit to download,
like subscribe, writer, review all those great things. It really
helps myself and Jerry and to a lesser extent, mess
and Ruder. If you want to discuss anything raised in
this pod, check out the Conclave, a Matt and Jerry
Facebook discussion group. And while I'm plugging stuff, my book,
A Lifeless Punishing Thirteen Ways to Love the Life You've
Got is out now get it wherever you get your books,
(26:37):
or just google the bastard. Anyway you seem busy, I'll
let you go. Bless Blessed, blessed. Give them a taste
of key we from me,
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