August 19, 2024 • 23 mins
On this edition of the Daily Bespoke Podcast, we discover which Beatle we want to be… and the results will surprise you!!!
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Speaker 1 (00:12):
Come on, come on, come on baby, come on baby,
let's get visit.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
That was that was confusing, That was crazy. That was
something right out of left field.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
But how did it feel?
Speaker 2 (00:33):
Weird?
Speaker 4 (00:33):
It's the twentieth of August of the Year of Our Lord,
twenty twenty four. Welcome, well you bespoke, you do the dirt, pocasset.
We were just talking about the Beatles and what songs
of the Beatles have stood the test of time because
little Meshi over there got a book for his birthday
and it's got some interesting facts on it.
Speaker 5 (00:49):
Do you know, I'm just reading a list now, actually, Fellas.
It's got a whole lot of facts about everything, but
I'm just focused on the Beatles page. But there's a
list of every single song the Beatles have written, and
then who had him put into each thing? Oh wow,
So I don't know. Do you want to Let's start
a song called I saw her standing there?
Speaker 2 (01:07):
Saw her standing covered by Tiffany.
Speaker 5 (01:10):
So that who was involved with that?
Speaker 3 (01:12):
I saw him standing there? Though? Didn't she change it?
So the Blue wouldn't do that?
Speaker 5 (01:16):
Now as Paul McCartney, I assume, Oh yeah, so that
was all Paul.
Speaker 3 (01:19):
That song Paul.
Speaker 5 (01:20):
Yeah, both that's on writer and lead vocals.
Speaker 4 (01:23):
Because they used to call it Lennon and McCartney Lennon McCartney,
but it wasn't really Leona McCartney. It was just because
they were mates when they were young, and they said
we're just going to go Halvesey's because it's like say,
for example, Hey Jude. That was because Paul McCartney went
round to bloody John Lennon's house and he could see
how sad Julie and his son was because his dad.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
Had left for.
Speaker 4 (01:47):
For Yoko and left Linda McCartney. And he wrote the
song about Hey you just about Jude's wife, do you know?
Speaker 2 (01:53):
Do you know?
Speaker 4 (01:53):
Paul asked Linda to marry him at that point because
he was like he was felt so bad that she
was left all on his lone. He went round there,
went into this deep state of sadness, wrote that song
Hey Jude, and then he played on Cynthia Cynthia sorry London,
Yeah sorry, was his partner, Yes Cynthia Sorry sorry, yes,
Cynthia Cynthia something Synthony Lennon, who's John Lennon's first wife,
(02:15):
and bloody Paul asked her to marry him. He's sin Sin, Yeah,
poor old Sin. He was upset about that, but then
he played that song Hey Jude to John and John
was like, John goes, I heard that song, and I
was like, he gets it.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
And he thought it was.
Speaker 4 (02:29):
About how much he loved Yoko, and he was like,
oh my god, Paul is in love. He's really in love.
But he didn't realize he was actually in love with
sadness for over his son.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
I went deep recently into John Lennon's watch that went
missing that.
Speaker 4 (02:47):
Yoko is anything in the book about back.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
We'll come back to the book and the second to
come back to the book, come back the book.
Speaker 4 (02:56):
I've got a fell into the book.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
We gotta come back.
Speaker 4 (03:00):
I want to go. I want to go to the
page later about every song that's from that year that's
still big.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
Now to that later at Yoko. Yoko bought John a
watch right at the end of his life, fasinating it was.
It was a Patack. It was a Patack, Philip Philip Patak,
and they're very expensive watches, and she bought it for
his fortieth forty It was fortieth.
Speaker 3 (03:27):
John Lennan, you brought me that.
Speaker 4 (03:29):
It's very expensive to get it, but we've got she
had bank accounts, and who's putting all the money in there?
Speaker 3 (03:32):
That's what I'd say to that.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
And then it was the last It was the last
gift from Yoko, and he's seen and photos wearing it,
and then he put it down somewhere. And then Yoko
had had a cleaner and a personal assistant, and the
assistant went rogue and stole a whole lot.
Speaker 4 (03:52):
Of stuff and Nick the watch, Nick the watch after
John Lennon was dead.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
Whole lot of stuff that was inside of their apartment
in America and New York cold and then he sold
it to someone else. It was authenticated. It sold it
to someone else, and then the person who bought it said, well,
I bought it fear and square. The guy who stole
it said, Yoko said to me that I could take
anything out of this particular thing as a gift. Bought
it and that's that's how and he's it's currently it's
(04:19):
currently in court at the moment. Yoko's still fighting it
and so and.
Speaker 4 (04:22):
Yoko said, I definitely did not say that.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
Yeah, a whole lot of stuff, and Sean Lennon's upset
because a whole lot of their stuff, memorabilia went the same.
That's worth millions and millions. W That's not the point
to him, because Sean Lenon is worth millions of millions himself.
It doesn't have to worry about money. It's more that
it's a whole lot of his dad's stuff's connection to
his dad.
Speaker 4 (04:42):
You know how weird for Sean and Julian Lennon that
they're now older than their dad. So their dad, who
they're completely defined by diet at forty one.
Speaker 3 (04:51):
Was now forty. It was two months into his fortieth forty,
quite a lot younger than us.
Speaker 4 (04:56):
And Julian Lennon, who looks so much like John Lennon,
he I saw. I saw an interview with him, and
he was just going to so strange to be defined
completely by a guy your whole life that's now considerably
younger than I am.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
Yeah, was Sean's about our age?
Speaker 5 (05:17):
So the New Yorker was this the article that you're reading.
I'll put this link just that the bespokey dorkis can
read it.
Speaker 6 (05:23):
Ull put it on.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
So interesting actually, And then it turns out Yoko was
having an affair with this photographer guy, this particularly handsome
photographer guy at the time. Was he an artist? He
might have been an artist slash photographer. And John knew
all about it and he didn't mind. No, it wasn't
that Yoko and John broke up. They had that having
(05:44):
a bad time there, but then they just got back
together again and then she bought him that watch.
Speaker 3 (05:49):
I'm just waving to stain her. He was giving us
a big wave. That's why he wrote the song starting over. Yes,
that's right, because we take off a loan, take a
trips and we're far away.
Speaker 5 (05:58):
If you were wondering. So there's been a rollics that
was sold from of of Lenon's. It was worth seventeen
point eight million dollars, is what it's on for action
and they're thinking that this is probably worth about fifty million.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
Yeah, it's worth because it's actually the watch itself is
worth haty know how crazy are humans? Which is so wild.
Speaker 4 (06:16):
Imagine Paul McCartney walking around here we've interviewed on the show,
but walking around and knowing that his just because a
watch had belonged to his best mate. Yeah, it's now
worth fifty million dollars. That the importance of those guys
to people is so phenomenal that. I mean, that's insane.
I mean, what do you do with that watch? I
(06:38):
mean I can imagine something like, you know, one of
the jackets from Sergeant Peppers or one of their guitars
that they played a song and like how much would
you pay for the guitar with a riff from Here
Comes the Sun was played on or or something like that.
I mean that that that's exciting. But just the watch
he wore for me, that's just it's a consumer item
that was on his wrist.
Speaker 3 (06:57):
Briefly.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
Yeah, it hasn't done much for what he is, no,
but also because it's such a rare watch anyway, it's
on top of that fact that it's a really really fancy,
nice watch. Yees, it was worn by it's the double yeah.
Speaker 5 (07:11):
Yeah, it's also gotten and engraving in the back from
Yoko to John and it's his open bracket just like
close bracket. That's the first line starting over, Oh Love Yoko.
The date which is the tenth of the ninth, nineteen
eightyeth birthday.
Speaker 4 (07:27):
Yeah, so just that just before the songs that were released,
because John Lenna had recorded album, so there was these
songs that came out Double fantasy was that album Afre
he died Beautiful, Watch beaudfol Watch the Wheels Keep turning.
Speaker 5 (07:40):
That's particularly known for the more square watches, aren't they
I think? And then they did these beautiful kind of
vintage watches in the eighties that look so nice.
Speaker 4 (07:47):
My god, I reckon someone's going to But that was
that was the best music for a long time, like
just like starting over, You've got You've Got.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
Woman, yeah again, hard right song got.
Speaker 4 (08:01):
I'm just watching the wheels go round and around. I
really loved to watch them rule about how he wasn't
interested in being in the music industry anymore and he
was just chilling out. He said he got out of
the music industry, didn't he, But not in a way
that he was hoping.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
Well, he could pretty much do anything he wanted. I mean,
he was living in New York, wasn't He's kind of
hiding away from his past, yeah, but also dangerously wealthy.
Also on the smack, he.
Speaker 3 (08:24):
Enjoyed the snack.
Speaker 4 (08:25):
He'd also go up to LA and get absolutely steamed
with people, and Yoko be like, you're disgusting, because he'd
gone and get on the on the ronts. He was
actually excited about playing live again because he'd done a
performance without John live and he just couldn't believe how
good the technology had gone in terms of the you know,
the sound system, pas and such, compared to their days
touring with the Beatles when they couldn't even hear themselves.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
And and so he's so well to think about.
Speaker 4 (08:50):
Yeah, fold back to and then he was like he
changes he could hear playing? Is I love this? This
is freaking great. He'd recorded that song with David Bowie.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
Because John Lennon ordered whatever gets you through the night
with Elton John, and Elton John was like, I will
play piano for this and I will sing on this,
but you will get up on stage with me in
New York and play. Apparently Lennon was absolutely packing himself,
really terrified to get back.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
So when he win, Elton John wrote Empty Garden, which
I love that song. I love that song loomed larger
over my childhood for some reason, because he must have
just died, like he died when I was you know,
when I was three, but I remember the kind of
after it for some reason vaguely, and because my mum
was a huge Beatles fan. Although a Paul McCartney fan.
(09:36):
Actually more than a John Lennon fan. She loved Paul
McCartney because he was kind of straighter as in sexually
or like the personality. I think personality was a little
bit you know, John was a bit of a rogue.
In fact, that's a good question for everyone. Watch Beetle.
Let's just pretend that John's alive, Watch beetle. Would everyone
like to.
Speaker 4 (09:57):
Be We pretend that George is alive as well.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
Yep, George is alive too, and Ringo as just ringer, Okay,
I reckon.
Speaker 4 (10:03):
I would most like to be Paul McCartney because he
was always the most well balanced and he went through
a lot like I think he's enjoyed his life more.
He had a little problem with Hi the lock there
when he married that one leaguered woman and she turned
out to be a bit of a psycho. And he's
had us ups and downs, but generally, if you see
interviews with Paul McCartney through the years, he's pretty balanced.
He had a really sort of quite a good outlook
(10:25):
on life. I think Paul McCartney, so in terms of
happiness and enjoying your life, it's poor for me. And
also he's the I would argue, he's his body of
work actually stands.
Speaker 3 (10:37):
Up over John's vegetarian though, So no stakes for you,
all right.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
I'll be terrible farts. You'd have to wander around you
and that shocking gas.
Speaker 4 (10:43):
Okay, in that case, I'll be ringing.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
That's buddy, where did sat? Because also with all his
success and Wings huge because he had so many number ones,
Wings had heaps the number ones.
Speaker 5 (10:56):
According to my book here, Paul McCartney was far more successful.
Quotation marks he wrote, He wrote he wrote thirty eight
percent of the Beatles songs, John had thirty nine. He
sing lead vocals on thirty eight or John had forty two.
But today in twenty twenty two, has all the Paul
McCartney lead songs, whether that's him leading the vocals or
writing it, has got They are far more successful.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
Than any conspiracy there. He's been driving that, you.
Speaker 5 (11:21):
Reckon, he's doing that.
Speaker 3 (11:22):
John Lennon's not looking at the stuff on Spotify, is he?
Speaker 1 (11:24):
No?
Speaker 5 (11:25):
No, I mean RNGO is definitely not fucking crunching the
numbers here, because no, he's he's fudging the numbers.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
Basically gave it. I mean he gave him octopus Garden,
didn't they?
Speaker 4 (11:34):
Yeah, well they wrote all those songs from anyone that
he was singing.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
Is there a ringo that octopus?
Speaker 3 (11:43):
Octopus?
Speaker 2 (11:47):
Terrible song?
Speaker 4 (11:49):
Okay, let's go a little bit let's go a little
bit negative. Let's go a little bit negative on this. Guys,
what's your least favorite Beatles song?
Speaker 1 (11:57):
Well?
Speaker 2 (11:57):
Can we go?
Speaker 5 (11:58):
Can we take a break and come back with this?
Speaker 4 (11:59):
So if that's all right?
Speaker 2 (12:00):
Okay, sweet, here we go.
Speaker 3 (12:07):
So what are we doing?
Speaker 6 (12:08):
Rudy?
Speaker 2 (12:09):
We never got around to what he run us? Who
wanted to be? You just focused on yourself there with
the Paul McCartney didn't even ask anyone else.
Speaker 5 (12:17):
I'm going to go Yoko. I said it before and
I'll say it again.
Speaker 7 (12:19):
She was, She's the fifth Beatle. She's not, She's not allowed.
George Martin was the fifth beat Well, there's so many people.
What about Epstein? Ave no, no, sorry, she's.
Speaker 3 (12:30):
Not Jeffrey Epstein, Ruder?
Speaker 2 (12:32):
Who would you like to be?
Speaker 3 (12:34):
I feel like i'd like to be John Lennon. Yeah,
I feel like he would have really played out the
eighties and nineties really well, ridden a whole lot of
awesome material, had some awesome Comeback specials got together with
Paul written some new music. Imagine if they'd got back together.
Speaker 4 (12:53):
It's funny because people think that they weren't mates anymore,
but they'd actually become friends.
Speaker 3 (12:56):
Again pretty soon after.
Speaker 4 (12:57):
I remember I remember por mccumpany saying that he has
special experience with guns because his best friend was a
victim of gun violence. And I couldn't work out, and
I was like, wonder who his mate was.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
It was, Oh, Mesh, who would you like to be?
Speaker 5 (13:10):
I don't know, but I'm just reading a list of
the greatest musical acts of all time according to this
book here. And what they've done is they've studied the chart,
so they've gone off statistics. Number one is the Beatles, right,
which makes sense. Number five is outon John, but number
thirteen is Paul McCartney. This man, Paul McCartney was very impressive,
wasn't he? So he was thirteen and one on this
list of the greatest most successful musicians of all times.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
He's quite a musician. I mean, when you watch Come Together,
is it called come Together? What's it called get Back?
Get Back? When you watch Get Back and you see
him writing a song, and then you see him playing drums,
and then you see him playing bass, you see him
playing guitar, you see him basically doing everything. You're like, wow, okay,
you're just shitting ideas for breakfast, don't you.
Speaker 4 (13:51):
Whilst John Lennond a bit of lyricist though, because that
line he blew his mind down.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
And he was aware he don't know about that. How
you went for more surreal lyrics.
Speaker 4 (14:02):
He often just read a line from a newspaper or something.
You to do it on the TV the night before
and put it in there because.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
This is lyrics were weird. They seem to have kind
of stood the tist of time and away because they
were so surreal.
Speaker 4 (14:13):
Get Back's got great lyrics. But what's it actually about?
That's the weird thing when you see them writing it.
I don't know about anything about anything?
Speaker 5 (14:19):
Good point okay, pop quois hot shots. How many number
one singles did Paul McCartney have, not including the Beatles?
The Beatles had twenty, Just.
Speaker 3 (14:27):
So does that include wings?
Speaker 4 (14:29):
When I told Paul McCartney that I liked the song?
Speaker 2 (14:31):
Question?
Speaker 4 (14:31):
When I told Paul McCartney that I liked the song?
When we're interviewing no More learnely Nights Beautiful. That was
one of his least successful songs, but he was stoked
to never be another.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
It's a great song. And just the other day I
spotify what was the question from what was?
Speaker 4 (14:49):
What was Paul McCartneys.
Speaker 5 (14:51):
P McCartney had nine number ones?
Speaker 2 (14:53):
Wow, what were they?
Speaker 5 (14:53):
I don't know, that's just including wings the question this
is what that's what we asked me. Paul with the
most weeks in chart, say say say twenty two.
Speaker 3 (15:04):
Weeks in the chart showing Michael Jackson. What saying with
Michael Jackson?
Speaker 2 (15:09):
Oh hey, this song or just hold on it just
is an heard going So just let's just not just
wait for a good mission. That's here. I just spotify
just the other day and I thought this is a baner.
Here we go, classic McCartney squib at the beginning, Oh yeah,
(15:35):
hump mission trump it, honey, listen to the drum sounds.
Speaker 1 (15:39):
Just soften a little rock. You can help it out.
You can make this whole damn thing work written a little.
You can lay it down.
Speaker 4 (15:52):
He's going on with the organ exploded.
Speaker 1 (16:01):
It's just so beat usy this but yeah, a.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
That that could be on the side the stairs, the
bit where it cuts back to the me and you.
It's coming out. It's quite.
Speaker 3 (16:37):
So good.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
What is it about the song song?
Speaker 4 (16:41):
Can I play one as well?
Speaker 2 (16:42):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (16:43):
Because we're playing songs that no one even celebrates as
being Paul McCartney big songs.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
He it's from London town.
Speaker 4 (16:49):
Oh yeah, I mean, listen to this freaking song here.
Speaker 3 (16:53):
It's so good.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
It's not it's not a song. Oh what what's this?
Speaker 1 (17:04):
I can will you another day?
Speaker 6 (17:10):
And Jill, I can't do.
Speaker 2 (17:14):
People get angry at one. It's because there's a better,
a soft.
Speaker 3 (17:17):
This is just mycan sold.
Speaker 4 (17:19):
This is mechanild and everything flutter.
Speaker 3 (17:26):
But another lonely night?
Speaker 6 (17:32):
My take?
Speaker 2 (17:34):
What did fool say about? That's when you sit there,
you love the song and you say, I'll pass off.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
We've only got each other, so.
Speaker 3 (17:47):
Oh here we go.
Speaker 6 (17:48):
What that is to me?
Speaker 5 (17:52):
Right?
Speaker 4 (17:54):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (17:55):
No lonely nights, no mong this but like he so good.
Speaker 4 (18:20):
I love how he can drop beetles like that and
you go, he's doing a beetles, but you goes, oh
he was a beetle.
Speaker 2 (18:26):
Oh.
Speaker 8 (18:28):
I got so much love for coming, so much love
for Jim's just everything about him, Like I love us
again anyway for that.
Speaker 4 (18:40):
You put.
Speaker 3 (18:49):
Right off of its range because right at the top
of the vocal range being poor.
Speaker 4 (18:53):
My Cardie has got a whole nother boat coming out
y the streamers as I love this.
Speaker 5 (19:03):
My Sonna.
Speaker 3 (19:13):
Che got this guitar solo those benches. I guess.
Speaker 2 (19:34):
It would I be.
Speaker 6 (19:50):
Great song.
Speaker 4 (19:51):
I've got a friend who works for pau McCartney now,
and she sent me every Beatles single that's ever been
released on seven inch the other day.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
Do you know what Paul McCartney's fact?
Speaker 4 (20:01):
You seen me every Beatles single that's been released on
seven and that's yeah.
Speaker 2 (20:07):
What is Paul McCartney's favorite song? Do you think that
there are the songs that he's written yesterday? No, I no, Here,
There and everywhere? Great?
Speaker 5 (20:18):
Its aid doctor SEUs Novel. I think Jerry mistaken.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
Here There, I don't, I'm off And he said I'm off,
and alse what my favorite song I've ever written is?
And I don't ever really want to answer it, but
if I was pushed, I would go to here, there
and everywhere. I remember writing this song while we were
waiting for John One day. I would go for his
ours for a writing session. He wasn't always up, so
I'd start writing and I wrote that one, you know, the.
Speaker 3 (20:44):
No More Lonely notes Caitaslo that I was absolutely zumping
over just before David Gilmore from Pink Floyd Oh Ship.
Well you can do that when you're Paul McCarty.
Speaker 2 (20:54):
You can just call someone up and say, hey, Paul McCarty.
Speaker 1 (20:57):
I'm singing a song.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
League, you can do anything. Gilmore, I'm singing a song.
I'm not heavy. The one thing I have no love
for Paul McCartney is his runs. Why it's just an
intense runs. He could do better than that.
Speaker 4 (21:14):
He could at Another thing I don't like is when
he admitted that when he when he was young and
they hadn't had much woman that'd sit in the dark
and John would say names of hot woman from the
movies and stuff, or people from school.
Speaker 2 (21:30):
Yeah, that's a bit weird.
Speaker 4 (21:31):
He'd be like, Look, he'd be like Rita Hayward.
Speaker 2 (21:36):
But as Marilyn Monroe yesterday and and the dog in
the podcast with Steve Brauneus, I mean, who in this
room doesn't have something? Nobody has anything that they don't want.
Speaker 5 (21:49):
You know, Okay, lights out route it, let's go, all right,
said the name to you Steve Boys or the like,
whoa how was Steve you stair?
Speaker 6 (22:05):
Was he right?
Speaker 2 (22:05):
It was a really freaking good chat.
Speaker 4 (22:08):
Go back and listen to that one rather than this
one that was really good in depth look into Pokinghorn
and actually.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
We can't say was it's nice?
Speaker 4 (22:14):
And I'll tell you what. We can't actually say what
he said. But he told us about some bond shell
evidence that's coming out very soon that is going to
flip this whole thing on its head, this whole polking
Horn situation is all right, okay, okay, all right, actually, bluddy,
I'm going to shove that and.
Speaker 5 (22:31):
Up on the conclave if you want to go on. Okay,
today's what's it called when you'd get like when you
were doing an assignment and you'd have to read like
additional text.
Speaker 2 (22:39):
Ah material, additional material, research material. I've just posted today's podcast,
research the readings. You got to go and do the reading.
Speaker 4 (22:48):
Yeah, all right, all right, the same bloody busy. Actually, hello,
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Bless Blessed, blessed. Give them a taste of key we
(23:32):
from me,
Come on, come on, come on baby, come on baby,
let's get visit.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
That was that was confusing, That was crazy. That was
something right out of left field.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
But how did it feel?
Speaker 2 (00:33):
Weird?
Speaker 4 (00:33):
It's the twentieth of August of the Year of Our Lord,
twenty twenty four. Welcome, well you bespoke, you do the dirt, pocasset.
We were just talking about the Beatles and what songs
of the Beatles have stood the test of time because
little Meshi over there got a book for his birthday
and it's got some interesting facts on it.
Speaker 5 (00:49):
Do you know, I'm just reading a list now, actually, Fellas.
It's got a whole lot of facts about everything, but
I'm just focused on the Beatles page. But there's a
list of every single song the Beatles have written, and
then who had him put into each thing? Oh wow,
So I don't know. Do you want to Let's start
a song called I saw her standing there?
Speaker 2 (01:07):
Saw her standing covered by Tiffany.
Speaker 5 (01:10):
So that who was involved with that?
Speaker 3 (01:12):
I saw him standing there? Though? Didn't she change it?
So the Blue wouldn't do that?
Speaker 5 (01:16):
Now as Paul McCartney, I assume, Oh yeah, so that
was all Paul.
Speaker 3 (01:19):
That song Paul.
Speaker 5 (01:20):
Yeah, both that's on writer and lead vocals.
Speaker 4 (01:23):
Because they used to call it Lennon and McCartney Lennon McCartney,
but it wasn't really Leona McCartney. It was just because
they were mates when they were young, and they said
we're just going to go Halvesey's because it's like say,
for example, Hey Jude. That was because Paul McCartney went
round to bloody John Lennon's house and he could see
how sad Julie and his son was because his dad.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
Had left for.
Speaker 4 (01:47):
For Yoko and left Linda McCartney. And he wrote the
song about Hey you just about Jude's wife, do you know?
Speaker 2 (01:53):
Do you know?
Speaker 4 (01:53):
Paul asked Linda to marry him at that point because
he was like he was felt so bad that she
was left all on his lone. He went round there,
went into this deep state of sadness, wrote that song
Hey Jude, and then he played on Cynthia Cynthia sorry London,
Yeah sorry, was his partner, Yes Cynthia Sorry sorry, yes,
Cynthia Cynthia something Synthony Lennon, who's John Lennon's first wife,
(02:15):
and bloody Paul asked her to marry him. He's sin Sin, Yeah,
poor old Sin. He was upset about that, but then
he played that song Hey Jude to John and John
was like, John goes, I heard that song, and I
was like, he gets it.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
And he thought it was.
Speaker 4 (02:29):
About how much he loved Yoko, and he was like,
oh my god, Paul is in love. He's really in love.
But he didn't realize he was actually in love with
sadness for over his son.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
I went deep recently into John Lennon's watch that went
missing that.
Speaker 4 (02:47):
Yoko is anything in the book about back.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
We'll come back to the book and the second to
come back to the book, come back the book.
Speaker 4 (02:56):
I've got a fell into the book.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
We gotta come back.
Speaker 4 (03:00):
I want to go. I want to go to the
page later about every song that's from that year that's
still big.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
Now to that later at Yoko. Yoko bought John a
watch right at the end of his life, fasinating it was.
It was a Patack. It was a Patack, Philip Philip Patak,
and they're very expensive watches, and she bought it for
his fortieth forty It was fortieth.
Speaker 3 (03:27):
John Lennan, you brought me that.
Speaker 4 (03:29):
It's very expensive to get it, but we've got she
had bank accounts, and who's putting all the money in there?
Speaker 3 (03:32):
That's what I'd say to that.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
And then it was the last It was the last
gift from Yoko, and he's seen and photos wearing it,
and then he put it down somewhere. And then Yoko
had had a cleaner and a personal assistant, and the
assistant went rogue and stole a whole lot.
Speaker 4 (03:52):
Of stuff and Nick the watch, Nick the watch after
John Lennon was dead.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
Whole lot of stuff that was inside of their apartment
in America and New York cold and then he sold
it to someone else. It was authenticated. It sold it
to someone else, and then the person who bought it said, well,
I bought it fear and square. The guy who stole
it said, Yoko said to me that I could take
anything out of this particular thing as a gift. Bought
it and that's that's how and he's it's currently it's
(04:19):
currently in court at the moment. Yoko's still fighting it
and so and.
Speaker 4 (04:22):
Yoko said, I definitely did not say that.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
Yeah, a whole lot of stuff, and Sean Lennon's upset
because a whole lot of their stuff, memorabilia went the same.
That's worth millions and millions. W That's not the point
to him, because Sean Lenon is worth millions of millions himself.
It doesn't have to worry about money. It's more that
it's a whole lot of his dad's stuff's connection to
his dad.
Speaker 4 (04:42):
You know how weird for Sean and Julian Lennon that
they're now older than their dad. So their dad, who
they're completely defined by diet at forty one.
Speaker 3 (04:51):
Was now forty. It was two months into his fortieth forty,
quite a lot younger than us.
Speaker 4 (04:56):
And Julian Lennon, who looks so much like John Lennon,
he I saw. I saw an interview with him, and
he was just going to so strange to be defined
completely by a guy your whole life that's now considerably
younger than I am.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
Yeah, was Sean's about our age?
Speaker 5 (05:17):
So the New Yorker was this the article that you're reading.
I'll put this link just that the bespokey dorkis can
read it.
Speaker 6 (05:23):
Ull put it on.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
So interesting actually, And then it turns out Yoko was
having an affair with this photographer guy, this particularly handsome
photographer guy at the time. Was he an artist? He
might have been an artist slash photographer. And John knew
all about it and he didn't mind. No, it wasn't
that Yoko and John broke up. They had that having
(05:44):
a bad time there, but then they just got back
together again and then she bought him that watch.
Speaker 3 (05:49):
I'm just waving to stain her. He was giving us
a big wave. That's why he wrote the song starting over. Yes,
that's right, because we take off a loan, take a
trips and we're far away.
Speaker 5 (05:58):
If you were wondering. So there's been a rollics that
was sold from of of Lenon's. It was worth seventeen
point eight million dollars, is what it's on for action
and they're thinking that this is probably worth about fifty million.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
Yeah, it's worth because it's actually the watch itself is
worth haty know how crazy are humans? Which is so wild.
Speaker 4 (06:16):
Imagine Paul McCartney walking around here we've interviewed on the show,
but walking around and knowing that his just because a
watch had belonged to his best mate. Yeah, it's now
worth fifty million dollars. That the importance of those guys
to people is so phenomenal that. I mean, that's insane.
I mean, what do you do with that watch? I
(06:38):
mean I can imagine something like, you know, one of
the jackets from Sergeant Peppers or one of their guitars
that they played a song and like how much would
you pay for the guitar with a riff from Here
Comes the Sun was played on or or something like that.
I mean that that that's exciting. But just the watch
he wore for me, that's just it's a consumer item
that was on his wrist.
Speaker 3 (06:57):
Briefly.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
Yeah, it hasn't done much for what he is, no,
but also because it's such a rare watch anyway, it's
on top of that fact that it's a really really fancy,
nice watch. Yees, it was worn by it's the double yeah.
Speaker 5 (07:11):
Yeah, it's also gotten and engraving in the back from
Yoko to John and it's his open bracket just like
close bracket. That's the first line starting over, Oh Love Yoko.
The date which is the tenth of the ninth, nineteen
eightyeth birthday.
Speaker 4 (07:27):
Yeah, so just that just before the songs that were released,
because John Lenna had recorded album, so there was these
songs that came out Double fantasy was that album Afre
he died Beautiful, Watch beaudfol Watch the Wheels Keep turning.
Speaker 5 (07:40):
That's particularly known for the more square watches, aren't they
I think? And then they did these beautiful kind of
vintage watches in the eighties that look so nice.
Speaker 4 (07:47):
My god, I reckon someone's going to But that was
that was the best music for a long time, like
just like starting over, You've got You've Got.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
Woman, yeah again, hard right song got.
Speaker 4 (08:01):
I'm just watching the wheels go round and around. I
really loved to watch them rule about how he wasn't
interested in being in the music industry anymore and he
was just chilling out. He said he got out of
the music industry, didn't he, But not in a way
that he was hoping.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
Well, he could pretty much do anything he wanted. I mean,
he was living in New York, wasn't He's kind of
hiding away from his past, yeah, but also dangerously wealthy.
Also on the smack, he.
Speaker 3 (08:24):
Enjoyed the snack.
Speaker 4 (08:25):
He'd also go up to LA and get absolutely steamed
with people, and Yoko be like, you're disgusting, because he'd
gone and get on the on the ronts. He was
actually excited about playing live again because he'd done a
performance without John live and he just couldn't believe how
good the technology had gone in terms of the you know,
the sound system, pas and such, compared to their days
touring with the Beatles when they couldn't even hear themselves.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
And and so he's so well to think about.
Speaker 4 (08:50):
Yeah, fold back to and then he was like he
changes he could hear playing? Is I love this? This
is freaking great. He'd recorded that song with David Bowie.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
Because John Lennon ordered whatever gets you through the night
with Elton John, and Elton John was like, I will
play piano for this and I will sing on this,
but you will get up on stage with me in
New York and play. Apparently Lennon was absolutely packing himself,
really terrified to get back.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
So when he win, Elton John wrote Empty Garden, which
I love that song. I love that song loomed larger
over my childhood for some reason, because he must have
just died, like he died when I was you know,
when I was three, but I remember the kind of
after it for some reason vaguely, and because my mum
was a huge Beatles fan. Although a Paul McCartney fan.
(09:36):
Actually more than a John Lennon fan. She loved Paul
McCartney because he was kind of straighter as in sexually
or like the personality. I think personality was a little
bit you know, John was a bit of a rogue.
In fact, that's a good question for everyone. Watch Beetle.
Let's just pretend that John's alive, Watch beetle. Would everyone
like to.
Speaker 4 (09:57):
Be We pretend that George is alive as well.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
Yep, George is alive too, and Ringo as just ringer, Okay,
I reckon.
Speaker 4 (10:03):
I would most like to be Paul McCartney because he
was always the most well balanced and he went through
a lot like I think he's enjoyed his life more.
He had a little problem with Hi the lock there
when he married that one leaguered woman and she turned
out to be a bit of a psycho. And he's
had us ups and downs, but generally, if you see
interviews with Paul McCartney through the years, he's pretty balanced.
He had a really sort of quite a good outlook
(10:25):
on life. I think Paul McCartney, so in terms of
happiness and enjoying your life, it's poor for me. And
also he's the I would argue, he's his body of
work actually stands.
Speaker 3 (10:37):
Up over John's vegetarian though, So no stakes for you,
all right.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
I'll be terrible farts. You'd have to wander around you
and that shocking gas.
Speaker 4 (10:43):
Okay, in that case, I'll be ringing.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
That's buddy, where did sat? Because also with all his
success and Wings huge because he had so many number ones,
Wings had heaps the number ones.
Speaker 5 (10:56):
According to my book here, Paul McCartney was far more successful.
Quotation marks he wrote, He wrote he wrote thirty eight
percent of the Beatles songs, John had thirty nine. He
sing lead vocals on thirty eight or John had forty two.
But today in twenty twenty two, has all the Paul
McCartney lead songs, whether that's him leading the vocals or
writing it, has got They are far more successful.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
Than any conspiracy there. He's been driving that, you.
Speaker 5 (11:21):
Reckon, he's doing that.
Speaker 3 (11:22):
John Lennon's not looking at the stuff on Spotify, is he?
Speaker 1 (11:24):
No?
Speaker 5 (11:25):
No, I mean RNGO is definitely not fucking crunching the
numbers here, because no, he's he's fudging the numbers.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
Basically gave it. I mean he gave him octopus Garden,
didn't they?
Speaker 4 (11:34):
Yeah, well they wrote all those songs from anyone that
he was singing.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
Is there a ringo that octopus?
Speaker 3 (11:43):
Octopus?
Speaker 2 (11:47):
Terrible song?
Speaker 4 (11:49):
Okay, let's go a little bit let's go a little
bit negative. Let's go a little bit negative on this. Guys,
what's your least favorite Beatles song?
Speaker 1 (11:57):
Well?
Speaker 2 (11:57):
Can we go?
Speaker 5 (11:58):
Can we take a break and come back with this?
Speaker 4 (11:59):
So if that's all right?
Speaker 2 (12:00):
Okay, sweet, here we go.
Speaker 3 (12:07):
So what are we doing?
Speaker 6 (12:08):
Rudy?
Speaker 2 (12:09):
We never got around to what he run us? Who
wanted to be? You just focused on yourself there with
the Paul McCartney didn't even ask anyone else.
Speaker 5 (12:17):
I'm going to go Yoko. I said it before and
I'll say it again.
Speaker 7 (12:19):
She was, She's the fifth Beatle. She's not, She's not allowed.
George Martin was the fifth beat Well, there's so many people.
What about Epstein? Ave no, no, sorry, she's.
Speaker 3 (12:30):
Not Jeffrey Epstein, Ruder?
Speaker 2 (12:32):
Who would you like to be?
Speaker 3 (12:34):
I feel like i'd like to be John Lennon. Yeah,
I feel like he would have really played out the
eighties and nineties really well, ridden a whole lot of
awesome material, had some awesome Comeback specials got together with
Paul written some new music. Imagine if they'd got back together.
Speaker 4 (12:53):
It's funny because people think that they weren't mates anymore,
but they'd actually become friends.
Speaker 3 (12:56):
Again pretty soon after.
Speaker 4 (12:57):
I remember I remember por mccumpany saying that he has
special experience with guns because his best friend was a
victim of gun violence. And I couldn't work out, and
I was like, wonder who his mate was.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
It was, Oh, Mesh, who would you like to be?
Speaker 5 (13:10):
I don't know, but I'm just reading a list of
the greatest musical acts of all time according to this
book here. And what they've done is they've studied the chart,
so they've gone off statistics. Number one is the Beatles, right,
which makes sense. Number five is outon John, but number
thirteen is Paul McCartney. This man, Paul McCartney was very impressive,
wasn't he? So he was thirteen and one on this
list of the greatest most successful musicians of all times.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
He's quite a musician. I mean, when you watch Come Together,
is it called come Together? What's it called get Back?
Get Back? When you watch Get Back and you see
him writing a song, and then you see him playing drums,
and then you see him playing bass, you see him
playing guitar, you see him basically doing everything. You're like, wow, okay,
you're just shitting ideas for breakfast, don't you.
Speaker 4 (13:51):
Whilst John Lennond a bit of lyricist though, because that
line he blew his mind down.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
And he was aware he don't know about that. How
you went for more surreal lyrics.
Speaker 4 (14:02):
He often just read a line from a newspaper or something.
You to do it on the TV the night before
and put it in there because.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
This is lyrics were weird. They seem to have kind
of stood the tist of time and away because they
were so surreal.
Speaker 4 (14:13):
Get Back's got great lyrics. But what's it actually about?
That's the weird thing when you see them writing it.
I don't know about anything about anything?
Speaker 5 (14:19):
Good point okay, pop quois hot shots. How many number
one singles did Paul McCartney have, not including the Beatles?
The Beatles had twenty, Just.
Speaker 3 (14:27):
So does that include wings?
Speaker 4 (14:29):
When I told Paul McCartney that I liked the song?
Speaker 2 (14:31):
Question?
Speaker 4 (14:31):
When I told Paul McCartney that I liked the song?
When we're interviewing no More learnely Nights Beautiful. That was
one of his least successful songs, but he was stoked
to never be another.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
It's a great song. And just the other day I
spotify what was the question from what was?
Speaker 4 (14:49):
What was Paul McCartneys.
Speaker 5 (14:51):
P McCartney had nine number ones?
Speaker 2 (14:53):
Wow, what were they?
Speaker 5 (14:53):
I don't know, that's just including wings the question this
is what that's what we asked me. Paul with the
most weeks in chart, say say say twenty two.
Speaker 3 (15:04):
Weeks in the chart showing Michael Jackson. What saying with
Michael Jackson?
Speaker 2 (15:09):
Oh hey, this song or just hold on it just
is an heard going So just let's just not just
wait for a good mission. That's here. I just spotify
just the other day and I thought this is a baner.
Here we go, classic McCartney squib at the beginning, Oh yeah,
(15:35):
hump mission trump it, honey, listen to the drum sounds.
Speaker 1 (15:39):
Just soften a little rock. You can help it out.
You can make this whole damn thing work written a little.
You can lay it down.
Speaker 4 (15:52):
He's going on with the organ exploded.
Speaker 1 (16:01):
It's just so beat usy this but yeah, a.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
That that could be on the side the stairs, the
bit where it cuts back to the me and you.
It's coming out. It's quite.
Speaker 3 (16:37):
So good.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
What is it about the song song?
Speaker 4 (16:41):
Can I play one as well?
Speaker 2 (16:42):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (16:43):
Because we're playing songs that no one even celebrates as
being Paul McCartney big songs.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
He it's from London town.
Speaker 4 (16:49):
Oh yeah, I mean, listen to this freaking song here.
Speaker 3 (16:53):
It's so good.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
It's not it's not a song. Oh what what's this?
Speaker 1 (17:04):
I can will you another day?
Speaker 6 (17:10):
And Jill, I can't do.
Speaker 2 (17:14):
People get angry at one. It's because there's a better,
a soft.
Speaker 3 (17:17):
This is just mycan sold.
Speaker 4 (17:19):
This is mechanild and everything flutter.
Speaker 3 (17:26):
But another lonely night?
Speaker 6 (17:32):
My take?
Speaker 2 (17:34):
What did fool say about? That's when you sit there,
you love the song and you say, I'll pass off.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
We've only got each other, so.
Speaker 3 (17:47):
Oh here we go.
Speaker 6 (17:48):
What that is to me?
Speaker 5 (17:52):
Right?
Speaker 4 (17:54):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (17:55):
No lonely nights, no mong this but like he so good.
Speaker 4 (18:20):
I love how he can drop beetles like that and
you go, he's doing a beetles, but you goes, oh
he was a beetle.
Speaker 2 (18:26):
Oh.
Speaker 8 (18:28):
I got so much love for coming, so much love
for Jim's just everything about him, Like I love us
again anyway for that.
Speaker 4 (18:40):
You put.
Speaker 3 (18:49):
Right off of its range because right at the top
of the vocal range being poor.
Speaker 4 (18:53):
My Cardie has got a whole nother boat coming out
y the streamers as I love this.
Speaker 5 (19:03):
My Sonna.
Speaker 3 (19:13):
Che got this guitar solo those benches. I guess.
Speaker 2 (19:34):
It would I be.
Speaker 6 (19:50):
Great song.
Speaker 4 (19:51):
I've got a friend who works for pau McCartney now,
and she sent me every Beatles single that's ever been
released on seven inch the other day.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
Do you know what Paul McCartney's fact?
Speaker 4 (20:01):
You seen me every Beatles single that's been released on
seven and that's yeah.
Speaker 2 (20:07):
What is Paul McCartney's favorite song? Do you think that
there are the songs that he's written yesterday? No, I no, Here,
There and everywhere? Great?
Speaker 5 (20:18):
Its aid doctor SEUs Novel. I think Jerry mistaken.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
Here There, I don't, I'm off And he said I'm off,
and alse what my favorite song I've ever written is?
And I don't ever really want to answer it, but
if I was pushed, I would go to here, there
and everywhere. I remember writing this song while we were
waiting for John One day. I would go for his
ours for a writing session. He wasn't always up, so
I'd start writing and I wrote that one, you know, the.
Speaker 3 (20:44):
No More Lonely notes Caitaslo that I was absolutely zumping
over just before David Gilmore from Pink Floyd Oh Ship.
Well you can do that when you're Paul McCarty.
Speaker 2 (20:54):
You can just call someone up and say, hey, Paul McCarty.
Speaker 1 (20:57):
I'm singing a song.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
League, you can do anything. Gilmore, I'm singing a song.
I'm not heavy. The one thing I have no love
for Paul McCartney is his runs. Why it's just an
intense runs. He could do better than that.
Speaker 4 (21:14):
He could at Another thing I don't like is when
he admitted that when he when he was young and
they hadn't had much woman that'd sit in the dark
and John would say names of hot woman from the
movies and stuff, or people from school.
Speaker 2 (21:30):
Yeah, that's a bit weird.
Speaker 4 (21:31):
He'd be like, Look, he'd be like Rita Hayward.
Speaker 2 (21:36):
But as Marilyn Monroe yesterday and and the dog in
the podcast with Steve Brauneus, I mean, who in this
room doesn't have something? Nobody has anything that they don't want.
Speaker 5 (21:49):
You know, Okay, lights out route it, let's go, all right,
said the name to you Steve Boys or the like,
whoa how was Steve you stair?
Speaker 6 (22:05):
Was he right?
Speaker 2 (22:05):
It was a really freaking good chat.
Speaker 4 (22:08):
Go back and listen to that one rather than this
one that was really good in depth look into Pokinghorn
and actually.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
We can't say was it's nice?
Speaker 4 (22:14):
And I'll tell you what. We can't actually say what
he said. But he told us about some bond shell
evidence that's coming out very soon that is going to
flip this whole thing on its head, this whole polking
Horn situation is all right, okay, okay, all right, actually, bluddy,
I'm going to shove that and.
Speaker 5 (22:31):
Up on the conclave if you want to go on. Okay,
today's what's it called when you'd get like when you
were doing an assignment and you'd have to read like
additional text.
Speaker 2 (22:39):
Ah material, additional material, research material. I've just posted today's podcast,
research the readings. You got to go and do the reading.
Speaker 4 (22:48):
Yeah, all right, all right, the same bloody busy. Actually, hello,
I'm Matt Heath. You have been listening to the Matt
and Jerry Daily Bespoke podcast. Right now you can listen
to our Radio Highlights podcast, which you will absolutely get
barred up about anyway, sit to download, like, subscribe, write, review,
all those great things. It really helps myself and Jerry
(23:10):
and to a lesser extent, mess and ruder. If you
want to discuss anything raised in this pod, check out
the Conclave, a Matt and Jerry Facebook discussion group. And
while I'm plugging stuff, my book A Lifeless Punishing Thirteen
Ways to Love the Life You Got is out. Now
get it wherever you get your books, or just google
the bastard. Anyway you seem busy, I'll let you go.
Bless Blessed, blessed. Give them a taste of key we
(23:32):
from me,
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