September 2, 2025 • 23 mins
On the pod today the guys get deep and philosphical with Dai Henwood.
Should he get a fanfare everywhere he goes? And why did he get pulled up over catching an eel?
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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(00:35):
the podcast today, get a.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
Die Good Morning. The trumpets the fanfare, I feel that
should be brought back a lot more, you know that.
We'll let you know that regal vibe of where people
showed up and there was just a full fan fit,
fan fait. We lost trumpets with flags on them. Yep.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
I think that one. They're that fan fear their Battlestar Galactica.
I'd be very happy whenever I entered room for that
to play.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
Yeah, I mean it does mean that can be a
little bit of a hard act to follow. You know,
it's like this, the guy's arrived and then you sort
of turn up in show house, everything going and it's
a bit like, you know, you need to turn up
with something if you're going to turn up with fan fear.
There was.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
I suppose it's like yeah, because you'd have it in
situations where you're a prime minister and you're visiting like
the Pop and Good popcorn factory in Tao Minto or something,
and you show up and there's all a fan fair.
Then they sort of handy your white hair and you
can put on I know this is where we make
the popcorn. Mate. You know, it doesn't feel quite I
know it doesn't feel quite something.
Speaker 3 (01:35):
You know that they've got the US, the presidential one.
They've got a march for the president when he shows up. Yeah,
the what's it called to the Chief to the Court
a fan fair. So that was a president called James K.
Polk who was about four foot nine or something, and
so he's very short, and he thought that people were
(01:57):
taking the past out of him because of it, and
so brought in the presidential march so.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
That people four foot nine because that's short, because people
think of your short leaders like you Napoleon. But he
was he was sure he is my size. Yeah, not
that short. No, b's sort of five and a half
foot four nine's next level.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
Yeah, I've pulled that number out of my mask.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
It could be wrong now, but there's a there's a
lot of power I reckon behind a very short president
because everyone has the what's this thing?
Speaker 1 (02:24):
You know?
Speaker 2 (02:24):
What is he?
Speaker 3 (02:25):
Well?
Speaker 1 (02:25):
I've noticed? I mean, does he derivers? Vladimir Zelensky small small,
an actor, a comedian.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
As stand up comedian, stand up comedian.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
Zelenski is a lot shorter than Poets.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
But poots you never see. He strikes me as someone
who has enough power to make sure no one around
him is too tall, you know, so you never actually
get a vibe of do we feel.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
Like Poets nowadays? Is the most powerful man in the world.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
Nah, No, I reckon. He does a very good job
of project projecting that power.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
But I mean, when I in terms of how I
gauge that, I would say, has a has nuclear weapons
that he can deploy when he wants to. He's got that.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
He's got a good combo. He's comboed up well with
North Korea.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
He's got Yeah, he's got he's got an army that
he can run when everyone He's a dictator, so he
can't be deposed. It's impossible to get rid of him.
He's also a billionaire. Himself. He has billionaires who are
only billionaires because he allows them to be billionaires.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
Well, we stopped there. One of the billionaires he just
shut down now other day, do you think, Yeah, he
was on the tarmac about to take off and he
just shut down his plane and said, we own your company.
Now your money goes to the greater good of Russia.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
So that billionaire, I would say, without knowing anything about that.
The behind the scenes part of that is that I
suspect they would have not been paying their the Jews
and the Jews, and yeah, you have to pay a
certain percentage. All those oligarchs pay him to remain oligarchs.
(04:12):
That's the whole thing. And if they don't, if the
terms aren't to his favor, that he's not happy about them, then.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
It becomes very slippery around windows.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
Yep, this is the most powerful and he can get
anyone killed he wants, and he will not be held
accountable for that.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
See I was thinking, I like what you're thinking. My
initial thought was President, she is it ping. But but
he's more hamstrung by global trade, the fact that all
the electronics are made there, so he can't just go buckwild,
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whereas Russia is a bit more isolated.
Speaker 4 (04:54):
Ah yes, And.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
Also I think the Communist Party itself is still a
reasonably powerful entity inside of China even without g in
charge of it, whereas the entire Russian region, the entire
Russia would fall down if Putin disappears, that will be
the end of Russia. This is the problem that we've got,
is that you've got this guy who's in charge, who's horrific,
(05:19):
but the reality of him not being in charge economically
for the rest of the world and how everything sits
after that is even worse.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
I was wondering whether if you're living in Russia like
Russia's the extent of Russia is insane, the size. If
you're living so far away from Moscow, you're in a
tiny little of lost vlood of Oscar doc or someone.
How affected are you by Putin or are you just
(05:51):
li trying to survive the elements?
Speaker 1 (05:53):
I think not that. I think that Geographic a year,
you know how close people are to each other, proximity,
proximity is the weather, well, thank you, and I that
human thecerous that is important in those dictatorial regimes. And
I also remember because I went to Libya once and
Gaddafi obviously was the former dictator of Louis, very powerful man.
(06:16):
Mar Gaddafi, very powerful man. But we went all the
way too. So we started in Tripoli and that's where
Gaddafi's power really started. And then when we went across
the Tabronk, which was on the on the eastern side
of Libya, it was a different thing. It was a
completely different thing. He definitely had less control of that
(06:37):
part of the country than he did in Tripoli.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
And you have more of the similar to what Afghanistan has,
of tribal areas that are controlled by those tribal leaders
or wall ords or whatever. I was thinking, we're not
striving in on the radio shars listening, you're playing the clash,
you know, rock the Kasmar Sharif don't like it. And
it made me think to that time and went Middle
(07:01):
East felt a little bit more loose. Back then. They
could go over there and rock the kaspar have a party,
you know, back in the day. You know, Iran was
one of the most liberated countries when you when you
had woman dress, how they want getting fully educated as
(07:23):
doctors and stuff. It was a bit of a party country.
You know, Turkey, you know, Greg get over there, grab yourself,
a little sweet tea in a modual date, get your hairlines,
get your Turkish airlines.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
I think we created that as Islamic fundamentalists and all
the regimes that stemmed out of there. I think that
was created by the West.
Speaker 2 (07:44):
Oh yeah, we definitely set up Isis, which was, in hindsight,
not the ideal move. If you want to if you
want to spend a bit of time today, Vice made
a documentary where they went in to Isis because I
just have a PR guy, right, So he reached out
(08:04):
to Vice and he was, hey, do you want to
come in and check out how we roll? So he
hopped in the back of a modified Toyota, a land
cruiser with a gatling gun on the back of it
as they tend to roll, and always your one dude
hanging out the window with an RPG, which feels your
(08:25):
AIM's going to be off the recoil on your shoulder, but.
Speaker 3 (08:29):
Overkill because you're right beside each other.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
But they pull into this Isis town and get out
and the PA guys like, check it out, how cool
is this? And you're like, your your version of Colton, Yeah,
is very different.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
The Corimandel.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
It's like a group of ten dudes in a circle
trying to kick chickens. There's you know, everyone who shouldn't
have an AK is just cruising around with an AK.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
So there was an earthquake in Afghanistan this week. It
was a massive earthquake and they showed footage of the
relief being and obviously their government is the Taliban. So
you have an earthquake and you're trying to rebuild, trying
to get people out of the rubble. Who comes to
the rescue the Taliban and they all have AK forty
seven slung over their shoulder and you're watching them trying
(09:20):
to dig people out of the rubble, and these guns
are like, just take the gun off, keep the gun on.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
Well, when you put the guard what you you can't
put it down beside you.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
It's because there's a ready to bring it. There was
a real crisis of masculinity within the Taliban when they
took over Afghanistan again, because they took it over right,
so they're like, okay, the Yanks have gone, we own it.
And now it's like okay, mate, you know you've been
out in the foothills firing and shooting on people all day.
(09:54):
Now we want you if you can just do passport stamps. Yep.
So you're on admin now. So all these guys who like,
we're young testosterone field dudes, foreign RPGs and stuff all day.
Now they're in government. So it's like local body politics.
It's like, okay, guys, we just have a conversation. Are
(10:15):
we going to put in some so are we doing
cycle lanes or are we are we focus on actual roading.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
That's so interesting that the idea of the love of
war and the love of all of that stuff, and
that's something that people take out of it, and how
much love some people do take out of it. That's
such an interesting one. I read something about the American
Indians and in some parts of the reservation when they
were giving out reservation land, and the American government in
(10:44):
the eighteen sexties are saying, Okay, you can have this land,
but you've got to stay there and we'll give you land.
We'll give you, we'll give food, will arrive for you,
everything will be fine. You know, you will sort you out.
You guys go go to school. And then a whole
lot of the young, the young Native Americans were like,
we want to we we don't want to sit around.
(11:05):
We want to fight. We want to scalp people, like
we actually want to scalp people. We we love scalping people,
we love killing people. We want to fight, we want
to I would rather fight and die than sit around
and do nothing. You don't understand what it means to
be me and the important part of what that is
(11:26):
to us. And I found that really interesting. I was like, yeah, okay,
that's a lot of people thought they don't want any violence. No, no,
we like the violence. That was a big thing. We like,
do you not see that coming?
Speaker 2 (11:37):
Do you fix things by designating a part of the
world where it's like, you know, if you want to ruckus,
you guys, just go over there and terraces.
Speaker 1 (11:47):
It's like saying in Eden Park, right, you got the terraces,
you know, let off fireworks. I saw that Diego Maradona
documentary the other day and oh my god, and Napoli,
Holy crap, the crowd. It's a great doco. The crowd.
Oh my god, they are lit their fires going on
in the grandstand because it's all concrete, so you can
(12:08):
just you can like fires. It's all good.
Speaker 2 (12:10):
Well, even old not too long ago, the old school
Indian cricket crowds where you there were fireworks that was
just packed to the gunnals and they had those huge nets.
I went to when over on an all black tour
to Argentina and we went to the Boker Junior Club
football club, and you know, you look at their terraces.
(12:33):
They're so steep and they just have the odd railer
and I'm like, if you all start pushing, you know,
you see how absolute chaos it's use. And that footage
from Maradona's time is just crazy. Also, that was the
days where pitch invasions were sort of just what happened
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at the end.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
Of games, so they had motes around someone so you
couldn't you can still do now because of that.
Speaker 3 (13:02):
But I remember storming the field after Crusaders games, you know,
like that we used to be a country, you know,
we used to stand for something.
Speaker 4 (13:08):
Can we have a quick break here and then we'll
carry on and that's the fan fea.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
I thought that was the beginning of the Argentinian national anthem.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
It also made me think how much we need to
bring moats back in terms of landscaping.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
Just in general.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
You know, I'm thinking, you know, I live in Avondale,
which is a lovely suburb of Auckland, has a moat. Basically, yeah,
it has its issues though you know, we had our
bikes nicked from inside our gates. Would that have happened
with a moat if we're just pulled up the drawbridge
as you go to bed, you know? But then what
sort of what sort of amphibians are you rocking in
(13:54):
New Zealand to defend? Because then Aussie you chuck a
couple of saltwater freshwater cross in there.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
Yeah, and the also you'd have to fence the moat.
Oh yeah, you'd have to fence it.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
Yeah, body of water because in New Zealand you put
say some eels in there, but he can stop you.
Really no, it's not it burns out. But if you
stood on an eel, then you're liable because you can't
catch eels these days. I got trouble for catching an eel.
Speaker 1 (14:19):
You what, You're not allowed to catch an eel now.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
So I was in the way tuckets and when I
was a kid, right, I was out of p har
away a lot and you'd catch eels and then you'd
roll them in the sand to get all the slimy
stuff off, hang them on the washing line, and then
you'd smoke them up. Good eating if you smoke them. Yeah.
But so I thought I'll take my son, my daughter
(14:41):
will catch an eil. We caught neil. Then I was
round the round the show and they we heard about you.
We heard you caught neil. You know that's not You
can't catch eels these days, mate, And I was, surely
you can. There's a lot of eels in the Yeah. No,
And there wasn't a baby here. There's one eel. No,
(15:02):
you know, I'm not pillaging what.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
Really, you're not allowed to catch an eel?
Speaker 2 (15:05):
Yes, But then this is one of those things that
I'm taking off a random person who I can't even
tell you their name.
Speaker 1 (15:12):
They're not a fisheries No, I mean, I'm thinking my
son does a lot of So he goes down to
Western Springs, does a lot of carp and catfish fishing,
cup of damp catfishing. Yeah, sure, yep, catfishing. Cart a
lot of catfish around the CB deck. But you're not
meant to You're not meant to do any fishing down there.
He gets told off every weekend and he does a
lot of CBD fishing as well. There's the snapper, there's.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
So you're down, So you're down sort of around the
wind quarters.
Speaker 1 (15:42):
Yep, he's down there doing CBD fishing. Just bloody, the
whole group of them. They bloody love it. They get
chased away by some grumpy old man who doesn't you
know the rules are you're not allowed to fish down
for something.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
Look at that. When I was young, you get chased
out of you get chased out of a parking building
for skating. You should be you should be embraced, celeb
for fishing. Fishing? Is it is a zen hobby? I think?
So you're doing the least. You know, these bloody kids
standing around, they're standing around looking at the water, catching
(16:17):
dinner for their families. This can't happen. Shut it down.
Speaker 4 (16:23):
What this is?
Speaker 2 (16:23):
What's happening to this country. There's a cost of living crisis.
So what if most songs bringing home a couple of snapper?
Speaker 1 (16:30):
Oh I know, no, no, no, no, not allowed to. No,
I can't. I'm pretty sure you are. I don't know
what this person told you about the ealing thing. I'm
sure you're allowed.
Speaker 2 (16:40):
To as Yeah, you know, in small areas, people make
up their own rules.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
How is this was this person in Pa.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
Yeah, yeah, school, I'm forty seven years deep out there
can be.
Speaker 1 (16:54):
There's a new there's a there's a bit to p though,
which is like it's a it's a don't come out here.
We don't want any people out here. We don't where
We've got our own little exclusive thing. I mean, when
all the lockdowns happened and stuff like that, they were
it was full on out there.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
Oh tell me about people were like vigilized.
Speaker 1 (17:13):
You've been living out there at that point?
Speaker 2 (17:14):
Yeah, I was out We're out there. My mum was
out there for the whole lockdown by herself. So we'll
go out and do that, you know, and you're like,
neither of us have got COVID, but I'll stand on
the lawn and talk to you through the window. It
was it was very very strict out there, and I
mean we made we made that little six part doco
(17:35):
to encourage people not to come out. You know, we've
been systematically disappearing people out there for many years. Yeah,
And and it's a beautiful part in the world. But
it's like any smaller town, people know a lot about
each other. Yeah, but you also embrace people. It was
(17:58):
like I did a gig down and talk it all,
and the guy around the pub was like, Okay, so
all the people on the right, they're going to be
forestry workers and p addicts. Okay, they usually come and late.
They won't be buying bears, but they might disturb you
a bit, all good sorts, but just you know, don't
(18:18):
rack them up and that thing of they're just included
in the community where you've got no choice they exactly.
So it's like, yeah, we include them or they smash
our windows. And I just that was the first thing
that they obviously test a lot more. Now. Yeah, the
whole myth forestry work bars was going on was like,
(18:41):
that's an intriguing industry to be slightly off your.
Speaker 3 (18:45):
Game and lose your.
Speaker 2 (18:50):
Nature of risk.
Speaker 3 (18:51):
Yeah, well no, it's the perfect industry for that because
you can't you can't drive a logging truck for eighteen
consecutive hours stone, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
You need something to get you.
Speaker 3 (19:00):
And another part, like you said, the part of the
community is like, yeah, he's a meth here, but he
also is one of the best arborists we've got. You know,
this guy can prone an entire heck there in the morning.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
Build a build a barn. Yeah, it's in forty seven hours,
and so sorry, we're going.
Speaker 3 (19:15):
To turn a blind eyed or whatever else he's doing
to get that done, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
He's got a window here of about two years where
he's going to be in good form. Then the psycosis
starts going to start picking up the slipping. But poor
rural New Zealand it's still dealing a lot with those
sort of issues, it is, but.
Speaker 1 (19:32):
It's also currently the dealing with It's got the lowest
unemployment currently as well. I see that at all today.
Auckland is the one that's got all of the unemployment.
Speaker 3 (19:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:42):
Well, you know, got all that sweet dairy money. Yeah,
lots of dairy money.
Speaker 2 (19:47):
Look your dairy money. Plus you've got your local cafe.
AI is not going to write your funny coffee board
in the morning.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
Is it.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
Actually it's not yet, but it's not going to get
out there. It might do the brainstorming, but it's not
going to get out there with the you know and
write E equals M coffee squared or whatever it was
some other hilarious don't talk to me till I've had
my coffee.
Speaker 5 (20:13):
Yeah, you'll be pleased to know that you can catch
eels in New Zealand for recreational and commercial purposes, recreational
purposes smoking them.
Speaker 1 (20:22):
So that's just someone that's just decided that they don't
like that, they want to that's their vibe was like,
we're anti ealing, we don't like it, so we're going
to spread the spread the news.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
I'll be that guy has the law printed out and
laminated fishing satchel. It says here in the by law.
Speaker 5 (20:40):
Well, the only thing is if you were doing it
on Department of Conservation land, you wouldn't be allowed to
do it. If you're taking more than six a day,
there's the bagging limit of six a day.
Speaker 2 (20:51):
I have a very embarrassing fishing story that at the
time where I was young, I was with a friend
of mine and our partners. We meen can thing right,
we get there, We've got our huge rods, big like
beach fishing rods. On the road. Again, some pretty heavy
looks from people as we pull under this campground. Guys
(21:13):
straight up to us, it's this is fishing, you know.
Just north of Auckland, there's quite a few island it's
around Goat Island, right, and yeah, this is a reserve,
marine reserve, right, you can't fish here. So my mate
looks it up and he's will the marine reserve finishes
ten meters before the end of the beach, so we
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you know, they have a few beers and as you're
going for a fish, we walked down with fishing off
the rocks like five meters out of the marine reserve.
You should have seen the look. It was what we
felt like, it was a power move, but in hindsight it.
Speaker 1 (21:52):
Was just a.
Speaker 3 (21:55):
Not not the best yeah, because they just don't know
the marine reserve finishes right there, noctly and being the
quality of fish fisherman I am, we didn't catch anything, right,
even though directly next to a marine reserve, respectfully, you
didn't get anything.
Speaker 2 (22:11):
But that was pretty good because if we if we're
gone back with a huge you know what's in marine reserves.
If we've gone back with a ten pound clown fishers.
Speaker 1 (22:22):
Imagine though that you can see the boundary like on
a map of where the marine reserves because it's generally
square some reason. Yeah, and then you just see boats
just lined up on the line. So what these guys
up to us like that's.
Speaker 2 (22:35):
The man bottom trawling two meters outside of.
Speaker 1 (22:38):
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Speaker 2 (00:37):
Die Good Morning. The trumpets the fanfare, I feel that
should be brought back a lot more, you know that.
We'll let you know that regal vibe of where people
showed up and there was just a full fan fit,
fan fait. We lost trumpets with flags on them. Yep.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
I think that one. They're that fan fear their Battlestar Galactica.
I'd be very happy whenever I entered room for that
to play.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
Yeah, I mean it does mean that can be a
little bit of a hard act to follow. You know,
it's like this, the guy's arrived and then you sort
of turn up in show house, everything going and it's
a bit like, you know, you need to turn up
with something if you're going to turn up with fan fear.
There was.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
I suppose it's like yeah, because you'd have it in
situations where you're a prime minister and you're visiting like
the Pop and Good popcorn factory in Tao Minto or something,
and you show up and there's all a fan fair.
Then they sort of handy your white hair and you
can put on I know this is where we make
the popcorn. Mate. You know, it doesn't feel quite I
know it doesn't feel quite something.
Speaker 3 (01:35):
You know that they've got the US, the presidential one.
They've got a march for the president when he shows up. Yeah,
the what's it called to the Chief to the Court
a fan fair. So that was a president called James K.
Polk who was about four foot nine or something, and
so he's very short, and he thought that people were
(01:57):
taking the past out of him because of it, and
so brought in the presidential march so.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
That people four foot nine because that's short, because people
think of your short leaders like you Napoleon. But he
was he was sure he is my size. Yeah, not
that short. No, b's sort of five and a half
foot four nine's next level.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
Yeah, I've pulled that number out of my mask.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
It could be wrong now, but there's a there's a
lot of power I reckon behind a very short president
because everyone has the what's this thing?
Speaker 1 (02:24):
You know?
Speaker 2 (02:24):
What is he?
Speaker 3 (02:25):
Well?
Speaker 1 (02:25):
I've noticed? I mean, does he derivers? Vladimir Zelensky small small,
an actor, a comedian.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
As stand up comedian, stand up comedian.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
Zelenski is a lot shorter than Poets.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
But poots you never see. He strikes me as someone
who has enough power to make sure no one around
him is too tall, you know, so you never actually
get a vibe of do we feel.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
Like Poets nowadays? Is the most powerful man in the world.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
Nah, No, I reckon. He does a very good job
of project projecting that power.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
But I mean, when I in terms of how I
gauge that, I would say, has a has nuclear weapons
that he can deploy when he wants to. He's got that.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
He's got a good combo. He's comboed up well with
North Korea.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
He's got Yeah, he's got he's got an army that
he can run when everyone He's a dictator, so he
can't be deposed. It's impossible to get rid of him.
He's also a billionaire. Himself. He has billionaires who are
only billionaires because he allows them to be billionaires.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
Well, we stopped there. One of the billionaires he just
shut down now other day, do you think, Yeah, he
was on the tarmac about to take off and he
just shut down his plane and said, we own your company.
Now your money goes to the greater good of Russia.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
So that billionaire, I would say, without knowing anything about that.
The behind the scenes part of that is that I
suspect they would have not been paying their the Jews
and the Jews, and yeah, you have to pay a
certain percentage. All those oligarchs pay him to remain oligarchs.
(04:12):
That's the whole thing. And if they don't, if the
terms aren't to his favor, that he's not happy about them, then.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
It becomes very slippery around windows.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
Yep, this is the most powerful and he can get
anyone killed he wants, and he will not be held
accountable for that.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
See I was thinking, I like what you're thinking. My
initial thought was President, she is it ping. But but
he's more hamstrung by global trade, the fact that all
the electronics are made there, so he can't just go buckwild,
(04:52):
whereas Russia is a bit more isolated.
Speaker 4 (04:54):
Ah yes, And.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
Also I think the Communist Party itself is still a
reasonably powerful entity inside of China even without g in
charge of it, whereas the entire Russian region, the entire
Russia would fall down if Putin disappears, that will be
the end of Russia. This is the problem that we've got,
is that you've got this guy who's in charge, who's horrific,
(05:19):
but the reality of him not being in charge economically
for the rest of the world and how everything sits
after that is even worse.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
I was wondering whether if you're living in Russia like
Russia's the extent of Russia is insane, the size. If
you're living so far away from Moscow, you're in a
tiny little of lost vlood of Oscar doc or someone.
How affected are you by Putin or are you just
(05:51):
li trying to survive the elements?
Speaker 1 (05:53):
I think not that. I think that Geographic a year,
you know how close people are to each other, proximity,
proximity is the weather, well, thank you, and I that
human thecerous that is important in those dictatorial regimes. And
I also remember because I went to Libya once and
Gaddafi obviously was the former dictator of Louis, very powerful man.
(06:16):
Mar Gaddafi, very powerful man. But we went all the
way too. So we started in Tripoli and that's where
Gaddafi's power really started. And then when we went across
the Tabronk, which was on the on the eastern side
of Libya, it was a different thing. It was a
completely different thing. He definitely had less control of that
(06:37):
part of the country than he did in Tripoli.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
And you have more of the similar to what Afghanistan has,
of tribal areas that are controlled by those tribal leaders
or wall ords or whatever. I was thinking, we're not
striving in on the radio shars listening, you're playing the clash,
you know, rock the Kasmar Sharif don't like it. And
it made me think to that time and went Middle
(07:01):
East felt a little bit more loose. Back then. They
could go over there and rock the kaspar have a party,
you know, back in the day. You know, Iran was
one of the most liberated countries when you when you
had woman dress, how they want getting fully educated as
(07:23):
doctors and stuff. It was a bit of a party country.
You know, Turkey, you know, Greg get over there, grab yourself,
a little sweet tea in a modual date, get your hairlines,
get your Turkish airlines.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
I think we created that as Islamic fundamentalists and all
the regimes that stemmed out of there. I think that
was created by the West.
Speaker 2 (07:44):
Oh yeah, we definitely set up Isis, which was, in hindsight,
not the ideal move. If you want to if you
want to spend a bit of time today, Vice made
a documentary where they went in to Isis because I
just have a PR guy, right, So he reached out
(08:04):
to Vice and he was, hey, do you want to
come in and check out how we roll? So he
hopped in the back of a modified Toyota, a land
cruiser with a gatling gun on the back of it
as they tend to roll, and always your one dude
hanging out the window with an RPG, which feels your
(08:25):
AIM's going to be off the recoil on your shoulder, but.
Speaker 3 (08:29):
Overkill because you're right beside each other.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
But they pull into this Isis town and get out
and the PA guys like, check it out, how cool
is this? And you're like, your your version of Colton, Yeah,
is very different.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
The Corimandel.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
It's like a group of ten dudes in a circle
trying to kick chickens. There's you know, everyone who shouldn't
have an AK is just cruising around with an AK.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
So there was an earthquake in Afghanistan this week. It
was a massive earthquake and they showed footage of the
relief being and obviously their government is the Taliban. So
you have an earthquake and you're trying to rebuild, trying
to get people out of the rubble. Who comes to
the rescue the Taliban and they all have AK forty
seven slung over their shoulder and you're watching them trying
(09:20):
to dig people out of the rubble, and these guns
are like, just take the gun off, keep the gun on.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
Well, when you put the guard what you you can't
put it down beside you.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
It's because there's a ready to bring it. There was
a real crisis of masculinity within the Taliban when they
took over Afghanistan again, because they took it over right,
so they're like, okay, the Yanks have gone, we own it.
And now it's like okay, mate, you know you've been
out in the foothills firing and shooting on people all day.
(09:54):
Now we want you if you can just do passport stamps. Yep.
So you're on admin now. So all these guys who like,
we're young testosterone field dudes, foreign RPGs and stuff all day.
Now they're in government. So it's like local body politics.
It's like, okay, guys, we just have a conversation. Are
(10:15):
we going to put in some so are we doing
cycle lanes or are we are we focus on actual roading.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
That's so interesting that the idea of the love of
war and the love of all of that stuff, and
that's something that people take out of it, and how
much love some people do take out of it. That's
such an interesting one. I read something about the American
Indians and in some parts of the reservation when they
were giving out reservation land, and the American government in
(10:44):
the eighteen sexties are saying, Okay, you can have this land,
but you've got to stay there and we'll give you land.
We'll give you, we'll give food, will arrive for you,
everything will be fine. You know, you will sort you out.
You guys go go to school. And then a whole
lot of the young, the young Native Americans were like,
we want to we we don't want to sit around.
(11:05):
We want to fight. We want to scalp people, like
we actually want to scalp people. We we love scalping people,
we love killing people. We want to fight, we want
to I would rather fight and die than sit around
and do nothing. You don't understand what it means to
be me and the important part of what that is
(11:26):
to us. And I found that really interesting. I was like, yeah, okay,
that's a lot of people thought they don't want any violence. No, no,
we like the violence. That was a big thing. We like,
do you not see that coming?
Speaker 2 (11:37):
Do you fix things by designating a part of the
world where it's like, you know, if you want to ruckus,
you guys, just go over there and terraces.
Speaker 1 (11:47):
It's like saying in Eden Park, right, you got the terraces,
you know, let off fireworks. I saw that Diego Maradona
documentary the other day and oh my god, and Napoli,
Holy crap, the crowd. It's a great doco. The crowd.
Oh my god, they are lit their fires going on
in the grandstand because it's all concrete, so you can
(12:08):
just you can like fires. It's all good.
Speaker 2 (12:10):
Well, even old not too long ago, the old school
Indian cricket crowds where you there were fireworks that was
just packed to the gunnals and they had those huge nets.
I went to when over on an all black tour
to Argentina and we went to the Boker Junior Club
football club, and you know, you look at their terraces.
(12:33):
They're so steep and they just have the odd railer
and I'm like, if you all start pushing, you know,
you see how absolute chaos it's use. And that footage
from Maradona's time is just crazy. Also, that was the
days where pitch invasions were sort of just what happened
(12:56):
at the end.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
Of games, so they had motes around someone so you
couldn't you can still do now because of that.
Speaker 3 (13:02):
But I remember storming the field after Crusaders games, you know,
like that we used to be a country, you know,
we used to stand for something.
Speaker 4 (13:08):
Can we have a quick break here and then we'll
carry on and that's the fan fea.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
I thought that was the beginning of the Argentinian national anthem.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
It also made me think how much we need to
bring moats back in terms of landscaping.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
Just in general.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
You know, I'm thinking, you know, I live in Avondale,
which is a lovely suburb of Auckland, has a moat. Basically, yeah,
it has its issues though you know, we had our
bikes nicked from inside our gates. Would that have happened
with a moat if we're just pulled up the drawbridge
as you go to bed, you know? But then what
sort of what sort of amphibians are you rocking in
(13:54):
New Zealand to defend? Because then Aussie you chuck a
couple of saltwater freshwater cross in there.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
Yeah, and the also you'd have to fence the moat.
Oh yeah, you'd have to fence it.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
Yeah, body of water because in New Zealand you put
say some eels in there, but he can stop you.
Really no, it's not it burns out. But if you
stood on an eel, then you're liable because you can't
catch eels these days. I got trouble for catching an eel.
Speaker 1 (14:19):
You what, You're not allowed to catch an eel now.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
So I was in the way tuckets and when I
was a kid, right, I was out of p har
away a lot and you'd catch eels and then you'd
roll them in the sand to get all the slimy
stuff off, hang them on the washing line, and then
you'd smoke them up. Good eating if you smoke them. Yeah.
But so I thought I'll take my son, my daughter
(14:41):
will catch an eil. We caught neil. Then I was
round the round the show and they we heard about you.
We heard you caught neil. You know that's not You
can't catch eels these days, mate, And I was, surely
you can. There's a lot of eels in the Yeah. No,
And there wasn't a baby here. There's one eel. No,
(15:02):
you know, I'm not pillaging what.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
Really, you're not allowed to catch an eel?
Speaker 2 (15:05):
Yes, But then this is one of those things that
I'm taking off a random person who I can't even
tell you their name.
Speaker 1 (15:12):
They're not a fisheries No, I mean, I'm thinking my
son does a lot of So he goes down to
Western Springs, does a lot of carp and catfish fishing,
cup of damp catfishing. Yeah, sure, yep, catfishing. Cart a
lot of catfish around the CB deck. But you're not
meant to You're not meant to do any fishing down there.
He gets told off every weekend and he does a
lot of CBD fishing as well. There's the snapper, there's.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
So you're down, So you're down sort of around the
wind quarters.
Speaker 1 (15:42):
Yep, he's down there doing CBD fishing. Just bloody, the
whole group of them. They bloody love it. They get
chased away by some grumpy old man who doesn't you
know the rules are you're not allowed to fish down
for something.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
Look at that. When I was young, you get chased
out of you get chased out of a parking building
for skating. You should be you should be embraced, celeb
for fishing. Fishing? Is it is a zen hobby? I think?
So you're doing the least. You know, these bloody kids
standing around, they're standing around looking at the water, catching
(16:17):
dinner for their families. This can't happen. Shut it down.
Speaker 4 (16:23):
What this is?
Speaker 2 (16:23):
What's happening to this country. There's a cost of living crisis.
So what if most songs bringing home a couple of snapper?
Speaker 1 (16:30):
Oh I know, no, no, no, no, not allowed to. No,
I can't. I'm pretty sure you are. I don't know
what this person told you about the ealing thing. I'm
sure you're allowed.
Speaker 2 (16:40):
To as Yeah, you know, in small areas, people make
up their own rules.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
How is this was this person in Pa.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
Yeah, yeah, school, I'm forty seven years deep out there
can be.
Speaker 1 (16:54):
There's a new there's a there's a bit to p though,
which is like it's a it's a don't come out here.
We don't want any people out here. We don't where
We've got our own little exclusive thing. I mean, when
all the lockdowns happened and stuff like that, they were
it was full on out there.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
Oh tell me about people were like vigilized.
Speaker 1 (17:13):
You've been living out there at that point?
Speaker 2 (17:14):
Yeah, I was out We're out there. My mum was
out there for the whole lockdown by herself. So we'll
go out and do that, you know, and you're like,
neither of us have got COVID, but I'll stand on
the lawn and talk to you through the window. It
was it was very very strict out there, and I
mean we made we made that little six part doco
(17:35):
to encourage people not to come out. You know, we've
been systematically disappearing people out there for many years. Yeah,
And and it's a beautiful part in the world. But
it's like any smaller town, people know a lot about
each other. Yeah, but you also embrace people. It was
(17:58):
like I did a gig down and talk it all,
and the guy around the pub was like, Okay, so
all the people on the right, they're going to be
forestry workers and p addicts. Okay, they usually come and late.
They won't be buying bears, but they might disturb you
a bit, all good sorts, but just you know, don't
(18:18):
rack them up and that thing of they're just included
in the community where you've got no choice they exactly.
So it's like, yeah, we include them or they smash
our windows. And I just that was the first thing
that they obviously test a lot more. Now. Yeah, the
whole myth forestry work bars was going on was like,
(18:41):
that's an intriguing industry to be slightly off your.
Speaker 3 (18:45):
Game and lose your.
Speaker 2 (18:50):
Nature of risk.
Speaker 3 (18:51):
Yeah, well no, it's the perfect industry for that because
you can't you can't drive a logging truck for eighteen
consecutive hours stone, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
You need something to get you.
Speaker 3 (19:00):
And another part, like you said, the part of the
community is like, yeah, he's a meth here, but he
also is one of the best arborists we've got. You know,
this guy can prone an entire heck there in the morning.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
Build a build a barn. Yeah, it's in forty seven hours,
and so sorry, we're going.
Speaker 3 (19:15):
To turn a blind eyed or whatever else he's doing
to get that done, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
He's got a window here of about two years where
he's going to be in good form. Then the psycosis
starts going to start picking up the slipping. But poor
rural New Zealand it's still dealing a lot with those
sort of issues, it is, but.
Speaker 1 (19:32):
It's also currently the dealing with It's got the lowest
unemployment currently as well. I see that at all today.
Auckland is the one that's got all of the unemployment.
Speaker 3 (19:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:42):
Well, you know, got all that sweet dairy money. Yeah,
lots of dairy money.
Speaker 2 (19:47):
Look your dairy money. Plus you've got your local cafe.
AI is not going to write your funny coffee board
in the morning.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
Is it.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
Actually it's not yet, but it's not going to get
out there. It might do the brainstorming, but it's not
going to get out there with the you know and
write E equals M coffee squared or whatever it was
some other hilarious don't talk to me till I've had
my coffee.
Speaker 5 (20:13):
Yeah, you'll be pleased to know that you can catch
eels in New Zealand for recreational and commercial purposes, recreational
purposes smoking them.
Speaker 1 (20:22):
So that's just someone that's just decided that they don't
like that, they want to that's their vibe was like,
we're anti ealing, we don't like it, so we're going
to spread the spread the news.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
I'll be that guy has the law printed out and
laminated fishing satchel. It says here in the by law.
Speaker 5 (20:40):
Well, the only thing is if you were doing it
on Department of Conservation land, you wouldn't be allowed to
do it. If you're taking more than six a day,
there's the bagging limit of six a day.
Speaker 2 (20:51):
I have a very embarrassing fishing story that at the
time where I was young, I was with a friend
of mine and our partners. We meen can thing right,
we get there, We've got our huge rods, big like
beach fishing rods. On the road. Again, some pretty heavy
looks from people as we pull under this campground. Guys
(21:13):
straight up to us, it's this is fishing, you know.
Just north of Auckland, there's quite a few island it's
around Goat Island, right, and yeah, this is a reserve,
marine reserve, right, you can't fish here. So my mate
looks it up and he's will the marine reserve finishes
ten meters before the end of the beach, so we
(21:35):
you know, they have a few beers and as you're
going for a fish, we walked down with fishing off
the rocks like five meters out of the marine reserve.
You should have seen the look. It was what we
felt like, it was a power move, but in hindsight it.
Speaker 1 (21:52):
Was just a.
Speaker 3 (21:55):
Not not the best yeah, because they just don't know
the marine reserve finishes right there, noctly and being the
quality of fish fisherman I am, we didn't catch anything, right,
even though directly next to a marine reserve, respectfully, you
didn't get anything.
Speaker 2 (22:11):
But that was pretty good because if we if we're
gone back with a huge you know what's in marine reserves.
If we've gone back with a ten pound clown fishers.
Speaker 1 (22:22):
Imagine though that you can see the boundary like on
a map of where the marine reserves because it's generally
square some reason. Yeah, and then you just see boats
just lined up on the line. So what these guys
up to us like that's.
Speaker 2 (22:35):
The man bottom trawling two meters outside of.
Speaker 1 (22:38):
The hey dying with Thanks for coming in today. Absolute
lovely to see you. You were coming actually because you're
talking about Seven Days Live tour, which is happening in November.
You can go to seven Days. Got cot on z
to get tickets for that.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
That's the one come along where we're getting around most
of the most of the I don't said there'll be
a little town or a sitting near you die him
with
Speaker 1 (23:25):
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