July 14, 2024 • 40 mins
Today on the Daily Bespoke podcast, Matt wants to see if it's time for another rebrand, and Tim Batt and Abby Howells come in to discuss their podcast "did Titanic Sink?".
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
A few years ago, Matt Heath decided to take a
deep dive into Wyers that no matter how good things
get in life, we still find ways to feel dissatisfied.
The result is a book, A Lifeless Punishing Thirteen Ways
to Love the Life You've Got. Karen Read describes it
as an hilarious way to articulate an important message. Urschel
Carlson calls it a book is inspiring as the man
who wrote it, and annoyingly, I also have to admit
(00:22):
I thought it was excellent. Matt Heath's A Lifeless Punishing
Thirteen Ways to Love the Life You've Got is available
in all good bookstores or simply Google in order.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
Now it's the fifteenth to the seventh twenty twenty four.
(01:03):
I'm thinking about changing the name of this podcast. I
was thinking when I was when I was on a
e bike riding around the vineyards in central Targo, bloody
good time. You know you don't think about going to
the vineyards in the icy weather, but it's actually so spectacular.
I saw a whore excuse me, frost, oh, absolutely beautiful
(01:23):
going around tasting the reds. And as I was running around,
I's like this, do you know, this podcast should be cool.
What I actually saw a place called bespoke. I saw
two places called bespoke when I was riding around. I
was like, who could be called wore bespoke? Worse bespoke?
Wort could be that? It should you know, it should
be called the Casual Chat.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
Oh, the casual Chat.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
The casual Chat. Oh yeah, yeah, well, oh that's quite good,
the casual Chat, because then it's like, can be anything.
The other podcast, The Highlights, is a highly disciplined information
inseminating machine. Yeah, this is the casual Chant.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
I like the way that we're always looking for the
answer when it comes to what to call this.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
Well, it was called the intro for a long time,
and then that got really confused. The answer, Yeah they
got there was confusing people like the intro to what?
And then that's left because the because we were doing
the intro, then the big show started doing the outro,
and then they've got this outro that's hanging off the
back of the end. That's that's the fold of our intro.
Because of course people know the story. The podcast was
(02:23):
one long podcast with us doing an intro to it,
and then g Lane said we're cutting it in half.
He chopped in half and then it was left like
a hanging chat. But what do you reckon the casual chat?
Things go really well if you've got a cut.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
Yeah, casual chat, casual chat and.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
The kettle chat. Yeah, I see what you mean. I'd
like to hear people's thoughts and people going to say,
I can see like meshesn't here. But he'll be rolling
in his grave thinking about this because you know, like
we've done a lot of time. As he did made
him sound like he's dead. He might be dead after that.
The yeah, that's fair. But casual chat.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
Yeah, it's like good things do start with like Kodak
for example, Codek.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
Well, the guy called it Kodak because he did a
big invest Codek's not a word for anything. He did
this massive investigation into what successful companies were and it
was a.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
It was a cannon.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
Two things work really well. Red and yellow as colors
and a c they work really well. I mean you
might say McDonald's is red and yellow and doesn't have
a cut. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
They had the forward car for a while. Did you
have a drive a forward car a full car? Yeah,
as a car, the ka, the forward car, the Ford cut.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
That was a It was a and.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
This cut chairs.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
Cut cheers, the Gary Gary in the corner very popular.
You can get a cut cheer, Yeah, they're very very popular.
The cut chair.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
She had just sold a cut chair on trade meet yesterday.
What kind of cheer was it? It was a winged
arm chair.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
I need a fucking wing arm chair. Are you joking?
I fucking need it because I'm moving a couch upstairs.
I need I am in the business. I'm looking around
for a fucking wing arm chair.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
This was a family yelo from the Finel collection because my.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
Great my great grandfather.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
Yeah, my great grandfather owned a furniture business and they
used to make furniture and and this was one of the.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
As a result.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
You know, they've got lots of furniture in our family
from from that. And this was a piece that haven't
told my parents that I've sold.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
I needed to get rid of it.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
Yeah, but you would have given it to you, But
I didn't know you were in the in the in
the market for a winged arm chair. That's a really
good aren't you. I need a wing arm you for
Daddy's Dean. It would have been perfect for Daddy's den.
Speaker 3 (04:28):
It was an.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
It's a light champagne blush for the lure.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
Oh, it's like a kind of a was that the
one that was Was that the one that was in
your library?
Speaker 2 (04:37):
Yes, I was imagining the one that's in your library
for my den.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
It's exactly the one that was in the We're nearly in.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
A simulation, but the simulation was out of Saint because
I was on holiday for a week.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
Ah. It's the Murray John. It's named after It's named
after my dad when when the grand when his grandkids
were born, he named started naming furniture after It's the
Murray John. Ah, but I just didn't have a room
in the house. This is It was thirty seven dollars
to it sold for thirty seven dollars question. Yeah, I
would have paid thirty seven hundred dollars. No, I would
(05:09):
have given it to you if I knew that you've
got anything else?
Speaker 2 (05:12):
Yep, what do you got?
Speaker 1 (05:13):
We've got another We've got some other other fanal cheers
an arm chair wingdam I've got another wing damn cheer
do yeah, yeah, kicking that one because you can't have
two ones ones A little. The Murry John was quite
a lot bigger, than that, than the diner quite a
big one. The denim is that the denim is the
one that's named after Ethan the Groot's grandfather. So that's
(05:36):
he's that's the relationship on that side. So that's why
he's my second I think he's my second person.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
God damn it. Yeah, I need a fucking winged arm chair. Rudy,
you were going to say when I call.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
Them up and trade me and tell them that something
happened to it, say that your dog's had on it
and in the end I'll get like it'll take Should
I call them up and say do you actually want
Maybe I could say that I'll buy it off them.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
Well maybe it was thirty seven bucks, I buy it back,
trade me. Can you see they might not come around?
Can you see me a picture of it? Why don't
you get you you might get some bad feedback if
you did that. You never know.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
I don't really care about my feedback, to be honest,
because it's on Tossi's account. So let me just have
a like, your winged arm chair, your thirty seven bucks?
Are you map.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
To a big story?
Speaker 4 (06:17):
So you jumped up and down in it because you're
watching the euro twenty twenty four, one of the legs broke.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
Should I still want it? So? This is this?
Speaker 1 (06:26):
Tozzi wrote a great little blurb for it for it
reluctant sale of this family hear loom from the Finel
Collection and.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
Good working Order.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
It's got to be recovered to turn into a fully
functional arm chair, snoozing chair, breastfeeding chair, or any other.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
Style chair, breastfeeding cheer.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
Currently covered in light champagne valure, A delight to sit in.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
That deserves more than thirty seven dollars. I know that breastfeeding.
I know you can't breastfeed in a family. Tozzy used
to breastfeed at it very successfully. Oh that's okay. Here
it is.
Speaker 4 (07:01):
Can you pass us the picture over? You absolutely rubbing
it in Matt's face?
Speaker 2 (07:05):
Right?
Speaker 1 (07:05):
Thirty seven knowledge. I mean that's a good bye for
thirty seven bus.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
Sorry, I'm sorry, you've.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
Got to say that's a good buy for thirty seven bucks.
It looks like it's got to rip in the seat,
but it doesn't. I think that's why it only went
for thirty seven bucks. It was a poor photo taking
by Tossic.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
Yeah, so much going through. She's selling my family and
it's got. There's actually quite a suspicious stay right down
a little bit. It's where it talks about being recovered.
It wasn't actually it wasn't actually a cut chear, was it.
Speaker 3 (07:32):
No?
Speaker 1 (07:33):
The other do you want a piano store because I
sold I sold this piano store and then tells you
what dog does not come with?
Speaker 2 (07:40):
See that's good piano still piano store.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
The piano store went for thirty four dollars. I mean
the piano store was a piece of crap. Someone bought that.
That was also fairly.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
Have you got a I really need a Chesterfield arm cheer.
You got a Chesterfield umpire? Do you want to sell um? No?
Speaker 1 (07:59):
No, Unfortunately the Star Wars Millennium Falcon that we sold.
If we sold Star Wars Millennium Falcon, what we for
ten dollars fifteen?
Speaker 2 (08:08):
Do you know? It's funny. It was my son's fifteenth
birthday yesterday and I took him out for dinner. And
I've been running a line that when you're fifteen, you
don't get presents anymore. You get one dollar added to
your to your your pocket money. Yeah that's good, but
you don't get a present. That's good. And then and
so I ran this line, don't get a present, don't
get a present. He was like, cool, cool, we'll take
you out for dinner, but there's no present. And then
(08:30):
and then he saw me at the prison. I said,
you still into Star Wars Ligua, which is not and
he was like yeah, because he wants to be a
nice guy. Ah. And then we sit down for dinner
at a fantastic restaurant on Juvois Road that sounds like
Undi's down, but it's an Italian restaurant. Anyway, I whip
(08:50):
he opens the prison. He's been so nice, he's so
lovely about the presence. He goes, I've got because he
got some shoes, he got a new new hoodie. He's
very happy, but I could tell in his heart he
felt like he was missing the good present. And then
and then he was just gearing himself up to be
very magnanimous about a shitty Star Wars lego see it
that you'd get when you were ten. And then I've
(09:12):
got n nothing. No, I'd bought him a brand new laptop, ah,
like a high powered Mac laptop with like you know,
the latest him three chap, like a souped up hair
cass laptop and God, he was happy. He was happy.
It was great. I lowered the expectations. I lowered the
fucking He's.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
A nice boy, though, the way that he wouldn't have mattered.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
I mean, it's kind of like in a school bag,
you know, he needs it for school. It's not. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
Tozzy wrote for the Millennium Falcon Plastic Millennium Falcon Giant
Iconic Star Wars Millennium Falcon five hundred and forty by
four hundred miles Hours of fun imagining Chewi, She's good.
Hours of fun imagining Chewy and Han Solo taking the
Millennium Falcon and hyper drive towards the planet Tattooin.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
I think she's over engineering these. Did she get that off? Ai? No,
that's very high level.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
No, she asked me, so who She asked me a
few details about that? I said, well, Chilean Hans. So
I used to play that we're too well to the
planet Tatowin.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
Hell did they go to Tatouin? Actually you would know?
Speaker 1 (10:17):
Did they ever go to Tatuwin?
Speaker 2 (10:19):
Chill?
Speaker 1 (10:19):
We did they ever take the Millenni Falcon to Tatooin?
Speaker 2 (10:22):
You mate? Okay? Yeah, hey, listen, listen to this though,
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Speaker 1 (11:16):
You're traveling around peddling your book via some question and
answer sessions. Is that's what's going on there?
Speaker 2 (11:23):
Yeah? Oh, that'll be a good time. Yeah, yeah, tickets
available now. But I'm a master of mischief, which again
to TOSSI write that one as.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
Well, that one that's clearly wasn't written by you. I
can tell that. So of all the things that I
was selling, the dinner and amp, interestingly, the din and amp,
which I wanted to get rid of, went for two
hundred and thirty five dollars, made six hundred and seventy
dollars on trade last night.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
It's not bad. Hey, Should we come back with part
two of the Casual Chat. We've got some special guests,
jereing me. Special guests, Jimmy, you don't know who they
are there, you don't know who've gone to?
Speaker 1 (11:59):
What?
Speaker 2 (12:00):
No idea? Up next, we've got the hosts of Did
Titanic Sink? Season two?
Speaker 3 (12:06):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (12:06):
It did sunk? Are they just? I can see Tim
back just there. Did the Titanic sk Absolutely, it's sunk.
He's coming through. I can answer that question right away. Okay,
we'll be back in just a mind. We'll be back
and a moment with part two of the cavs ule
Chat or bespoke. Have your say on the Conclave the
(12:27):
Matt and Jerry Facebook discussion group whether you think we
should change it to the casual chat. Let's change it. Well,
so we're not telling me when he comes back to
it's just the casual chat.
Speaker 1 (12:35):
Okay, it's the casual chatry all right, Okay, Okay, then we'll.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
Be back.
Speaker 4 (12:45):
Hello, and we're back and we're back. Or there's some
hugging going on. Jeremy Well's hugging and howls and Matt
Heath now hugging tim mate, we're just going to fist
each other.
Speaker 2 (12:59):
That's excellent. Abbie houses coming as well.
Speaker 4 (13:02):
Abbie, I'm gonna like maneuver this microphone round at you
because I don't.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
Trust that one.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
So how're we going to.
Speaker 2 (13:15):
The unprofessional of the team, and you know it's unprofessional
as well. We're already started recording the podcast.
Speaker 5 (13:22):
That since that this was all yes, and it feels live.
It's as live live.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
It's like you know when they have document fancy documentaries
and they have as they're sitting up and putting the
mic on and they do the voice over it. So
we kind of run that kind of it's a real
look behind the curtains saying hello.
Speaker 5 (13:41):
You know I did that. I just swapped the mics
over and totally blinked on your bed. I'm so sorry
because I know these mics. You've got to get in there.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
Yeah, you gotta get it.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
You do have to get in there. He's worked these
mics before, worked these mics before.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
He's a seminal podcast godfather, I would, but he's a podcast.
Speaker 1 (14:02):
So welcome and termin airb Thank you Jerry, And what
are you guys up to? What's happening mate?
Speaker 5 (14:11):
We have just made a podcast. Have you heard of this? Medium?
Speaker 2 (14:17):
Yep? Podcast podcast?
Speaker 5 (14:19):
They're the hot new.
Speaker 3 (14:19):
Thing right, It's like the radio but on the internet.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
Wow, they hanging on the radio is on the internet
as well.
Speaker 5 (14:26):
Ship the check us out. We've done a second season
of a podcast called Did Titanic Sync For? Do you
describe Radio in New Zealand as a rival network?
Speaker 1 (14:37):
Since you're quite dum, probably, I don't think anything's right.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
I mean, I mean it's I.
Speaker 5 (14:44):
Guess it's for a rival network that I won't name radio.
Speaker 3 (14:50):
You're a sworn enemy.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (14:53):
The first the first season I did with Carlo Ritchie,
who's a very smart, funny Australian commed who knows everything
about the Titanic.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
Like, I like how you it's just going to complicate
compliment you on saying did Titanic sink? Yes, but then
you said that Titanic. Don't use that because unless a podcast,
we'll call it did that Titanic? Think?
Speaker 5 (15:15):
Yes, but it's Carlo wouldn't allow that sort of thing.
He wouldn't allow it.
Speaker 1 (15:20):
But you have allowed it. So have you allowed the article?
Speaker 5 (15:23):
And now I'm an idiot? So I refer to it
as the Titanic, but Carlo refers to it exclusively as
the Ari.
Speaker 2 (15:31):
How do you how do you refer to the Olympics?
Do you refer to them as the games of the
thirty four thirty fourth Olympiad? Would?
Speaker 1 (15:40):
Okay, so so it's called did Titanic Titanic Sink?
Speaker 2 (15:44):
I know? Oh, sorry, you go to please.
Speaker 1 (15:46):
I know that Abbie Howes is a huge fan of
Titanic and all things Titanic.
Speaker 3 (15:53):
And all the deaths. Yeah, I loved it.
Speaker 1 (15:55):
Yes, she's very focused on the deaths. Because Abby and
I are.
Speaker 2 (16:01):
We allowed to say what?
Speaker 3 (16:02):
We're not allowed?
Speaker 1 (16:03):
Okay, well I'm not going to say anything.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
Then I know as well. Ah, are we not.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
Allowed to say anything?
Speaker 3 (16:12):
Secret?
Speaker 1 (16:13):
Okay, that's fine. I was chatting to Abby and we
got talking about and and because recently I have gone
deep on Titanic, always been interested, but.
Speaker 2 (16:29):
Not like James Cameron. You didn't acually go down in
the little subby Webb, did you. No? I didn't go down.
Speaker 3 (16:33):
Would you go down in the No?
Speaker 2 (16:35):
I don't want to go down after that other sub.
Speaker 5 (16:37):
Well, you've got to use the PlayStation controller.
Speaker 2 (16:40):
That's the problem, that's exactly.
Speaker 5 (16:43):
Yeah, they skimped on it.
Speaker 2 (16:44):
Yeah, so so tell us about the podcast.
Speaker 5 (16:47):
Sorry, so so we did one season two years ago.
Carlum and I won a Comedy Award one Best Comedy
at the New Zealand Podcast Woods, which was confusing for
us because we thought we were making a history podcast.
And then it was all about a conspiracy theory that
the Titanic got switched with its sister ship, which got
struck by a naval vessel and intentionally sunk for insurance money.
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Carlo knows all the details and he laid it out
for me episode episode. We had Abby on the final episode,
and Abby shocked me by being the only person I'd
ever met who could rival Carlo's knowledge on the Titanic.
And it was like watching these two beautiful minds, you know,
meet for the first time. So then we got some
money from a rival network to do a second season
(17:33):
and we had to get Ebby to direct it during
the season.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
Wow, so you get money for your podcast? We just
do that. We just do this thing for fucking free us.
Speaker 3 (17:45):
You survive of you're paid in the power of friendship.
Speaker 2 (17:50):
We do it to promote people. We are only doing
it because we want to be good members of the
community and promote people like you guys doing your podcasts.
Speaker 3 (17:58):
That was really altruistic.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
Yeah, look, should be that the way around, surely.
Speaker 5 (18:04):
Yeah, what have you got on you? I've only got cards.
Speaker 2 (18:09):
Well, I've got a paid wife. But there's a one point.
Speaker 5 (18:15):
Charge on that.
Speaker 1 (18:18):
So just quickly, most fascinating Titanic fact, Abby.
Speaker 3 (18:24):
Well, here's what I think. Well, here's one that's compelled
me recently, which we talk about on the podcast a
little bit, which is that the order for women and
children only. Well, it was interpreted two different ways. So
you've got you got the Titanic right, it's going down.
You've got ships basically on either side being lowered, one
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by a officer called Murdoch, one by officer called Lightholer.
Murdoch interpreted the orders as women and children first, yes,
so like he would fill up the boats of women
and children. But if there were any men around, yeah,
he'd put them on the boat.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
Good ond good on, mood off.
Speaker 3 (19:06):
Yeah. On the other side, Lightoler into asshole.
Speaker 1 (19:10):
Into figure of history.
Speaker 2 (19:13):
Asshole. Yeah, he had a gun.
Speaker 5 (19:15):
Our whole season is about him.
Speaker 2 (19:17):
So basically he interpreted that woman and children only.
Speaker 3 (19:20):
So he would send down boats that were he sent
down boats they were half full, less than half full
when there were men around, and you.
Speaker 2 (19:27):
Had husband wives going please, please please, and what about that?
The saddest story is that kid. It was his fifteenth birthday,
wasn't it? And he got his big boy pants because
he had big boy pants on, was it? Lila Lightolerler
was like, fuck you you're a man. You've got pants on?
Speaker 3 (19:43):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (19:44):
How did you guys know so much about the Titana?
Speaker 2 (19:46):
And everyone knows everyone everyone I've seen the movie.
Speaker 5 (19:52):
Light Sholer interestingly is also in Dunkirk the movie because
this guy just he's like a forest gump of British historically.
Speaker 2 (19:59):
V did he take out one of the little boats.
He did.
Speaker 5 (20:01):
He took out his little personal yacht and saved a
bunch of dudes. He's an incredible figure.
Speaker 2 (20:06):
So was that because he was feeling bad about interpreting
them women and children? First thing wrong, here's the beauty
of light older.
Speaker 5 (20:13):
He doesn't feel bad about anything.
Speaker 3 (20:16):
He loves the sea mistress.
Speaker 5 (20:20):
Arguably, we've spent half an episode describing a situation where
there's a one of the life boats called Collapsible b
tipped upside down. He got a bunch of people on
and commandeered it and basically saved dozens of people's lives
by coordinating them to roll with the sea and not
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tip it over until they got rescued. He's a crazy dude,
and we talked to his great nephew. Okay directly, Oh,
hold on, the pope.
Speaker 1 (20:48):
I thought the sea conditions were completely dead, calm, flat,
no swell at all.
Speaker 5 (20:52):
Originally they were, but then the sea got a bit
choppy after and also there was all these wakes being
created by the Titanic.
Speaker 3 (20:59):
And the boat is upside down, so it's it's like
fully upside down, so they're balancing on it like you know,
this straddled the boat basically excuse me, Yeah, they made
view No, there's a story about then they made love
to whatever life.
Speaker 2 (21:18):
Well, and ejaculated the actual lifeboat.
Speaker 5 (21:22):
That what our podcast is about.
Speaker 3 (21:24):
It's about the beautiful boat. Baby.
Speaker 2 (21:27):
It does raise a question, though it doesn't it so
if you know you're definitely going to die, because there's
some couples that just gave up and went into their
bed rooms, right, and people are saying, well, at the
end of the world, women might as well make love,
you know, like with this asteroids coming to all their
let's shall we make love? I don't know. I don't.
I don't think I'll be into it.
Speaker 5 (21:44):
Because you want to think you would do it, but
I reckon i'd.
Speaker 2 (21:46):
Be I don't get turned on by dying, you know,
so I reckon at the end, I'd be like actually,
like so you're with your message and she's like, shall
we were about to die? I don't think I can
perform under these and children aside.
Speaker 1 (22:06):
You would have pushed women and children away to get
into the lifeboat.
Speaker 2 (22:09):
You would have produced your own arm. What are you
and I'm going to make love in the lifeboat? I
don't know when the kids are.
Speaker 1 (22:15):
I don't think it's not easy to make love. On
the other thing is because the ship went up so
much before it went down, which was kind.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
Of sexual in a way.
Speaker 1 (22:23):
The way that actually entered the border was a little
bit like anyway.
Speaker 3 (22:26):
That's our experienced it. He went up, but then when
everything was.
Speaker 1 (22:32):
Because you couldn't have been in your bed because you
would have slid slidden off.
Speaker 2 (22:35):
How to get off the boat?
Speaker 5 (22:38):
That's another incredible story.
Speaker 2 (22:40):
So forget about who he was making love to.
Speaker 5 (22:42):
He got sucked down by the force of this huge vessel,
the largest man made object.
Speaker 3 (22:48):
Right, Yes, yes, so he did go down with the ship.
He did not get on life.
Speaker 2 (22:52):
Sucked down, But did he jump off at any point?
Speaker 5 (22:56):
In fact, there's a quote from him which we reference
in the podcast. I didn't leave Titanic. Titanic left me.
Speaker 2 (23:02):
So he got sucked the ego, hasn't he?
Speaker 5 (23:04):
And then something I think exploded in the water, maybe
one of the boilers with something that produced an air
bubble which shot him back up. Well, because God decided
it was not his time.
Speaker 2 (23:15):
I always wonder yesterday, Yes God God, And he's he
makes fucking decisions and key moments, doesn't People lied? He's
a real club. It happened to them in the Titanic.
Oh the season.
Speaker 5 (23:29):
You need to listen to this new season Titanic, saying,
because this is what it's all about.
Speaker 2 (23:33):
Because that's the thing. But who lies and who things
change me? You've got adaptive memory disorder that we all
suffer from. I mean, how many times have you told
a story like I was telling a story about something
that happened to me and my friends, telling over and
over again, and then I saw a picture of it
and realized I was never there.
Speaker 5 (23:50):
But the t shirt ken an incident might have never happened,
but you and I have just told it so many
times that we've just weld it.
Speaker 2 (23:58):
Happened. But talking about a time when I shot him
and the you know timbat used to used to be
the me. Me and him used to do a drive
show on Hidaky many years ago. But I think there
was a part of it that I have changed on
purpose to try and make myself look better. The idea
that because we did a trial and decided not to
do it, and then we went ahead later and did
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it anyway. And I've always tried to push the line
I had to do it because it was on your rundown,
because you did the rundown. And look, the truth is,
and I'm willing to admit that Now we did it
because we were drunk, not because it was on the rundown.
Speaker 5 (24:35):
Yeah, you know I did it, I think because I
was drunk, consually drunk, but.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
To make it sound professional like, because we always followed
the rundown for our radio show religiously. That's why I
shot you in the nick and killed you with a
T shirt.
Speaker 5 (24:50):
We were on our first out of town trip for
the radio show and we were hanged hanging out with
the Canadian Yeah, and someone gave us T shirt catered
they were having a time. But yeah, light a great guy.
Speaker 1 (25:04):
Yeah, so he amazing that he that he went down
with the ship and then he got got back up again.
Speaker 5 (25:10):
And saved a bunch of people after that by, as
I say, taking command of.
Speaker 2 (25:15):
The bit I find the most terrifying about the Titanic,
and actually probably the second bit, but everyone that was
in the life boats had to make the decision to
not go back to pick people up.
Speaker 5 (25:26):
Yes, because Samped and light on it talks about this
and the investigations that were subsequent. You could hear everything.
You could hear people's thing so quiet and still you
just hear everyone dying.
Speaker 3 (25:37):
I thought you were going to say the worst thing
about it was the people in the lifeboats had to
make small talk.
Speaker 2 (25:45):
So what are you you know, like you're married. Yeah,
the fucker got left on the boat because like Toler
wouldn't let him on.
Speaker 5 (25:53):
He he's got a great story of character from the Titanic.
Who was your favorite person when we asked you to
see some one?
Speaker 3 (25:59):
Oh? Yes, oh yeah, my favorite. But I think the
most I think the most relatable person on the Titanic
is the baker. His name's like Charles Golgan. I think Golgan.
I think I'm pronouncing it wrong, but he's the baker.
His instinct was like, Titanic is going down, I'm gonna
get drunk. So he drank I think a whole bottle
of whiskey. And then people saw him just throwing dick
(26:21):
chairs off the Titanic case. I think he thought it
might help.
Speaker 2 (26:25):
He's like, oh arranging.
Speaker 3 (26:28):
Yeah, he was throwing them in the water, and he's like,
I'm a hero for this. He's the last person to
get off the Titanic, and he says he wrote it
down like an elevator, so he managed to get on
the top of the tip. Yeah, he got on the
turb He wrote it all the way down, he said,
didn't even get my hair with He's in the water
swimming around, still so drunk that he's like, it wasn't
(26:49):
even cold to me. He just kind of swings. I
think he swims around for about two hours and then
he gets picked up by a light boat and survives.
Speaker 2 (27:00):
Yeah, and yet our fucking government won't let us drunk drive. Wow,
but it was smart. That was smart. That was clever.
Speaker 3 (27:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (27:14):
What about the fact that people said that the people
who were down in steerage down the down the bottom,
that that they that people didn't care about them, and
that they had the doors locked and they were allowed
up and all that sort of stuff. It turns out
that that's a myth.
Speaker 3 (27:29):
That's not true. They didn't lock the doors.
Speaker 1 (27:31):
No, No, that was that was for immigration reasons.
Speaker 2 (27:34):
They were immigration doors, so you couldn't because they had
a problems. If you were in third class and a
woman or a child, you had better chance of surviving
than a man in first class.
Speaker 1 (27:46):
Yes, yeah, that's right, that was That's interesting because the
women and children thing was a bloody interesting thing back
in those days, and it makes sense to me. I've
thought about this about evolution and it does make sense
because historically women and children have always been you know,
men will die for women and children.
Speaker 2 (28:02):
That's the way it was.
Speaker 1 (28:03):
And the reason for that is because you can continue
on as a species with women and children. You can
lose a lot of men, and you're okay. If you
lose a whole lot of your women, you're in trouble
because you've got nobody to have babies.
Speaker 2 (28:14):
Men can be involved in a lot more pregnancies. That's right,
needy one man to survive. Take on this, which is
where it comes to the square.
Speaker 3 (28:27):
Well, I think actually the women and children's first thing
had to be implemented because in previous like ships going
down and stuff, women and children slaughtered. Really yeah, yeah,
that they are a lot more men would survive.
Speaker 2 (28:43):
Really yeah.
Speaker 3 (28:44):
They had to be like, can we give to children
on the boat?
Speaker 1 (28:47):
So they just had more honor on the Titanic, Is
that what you're saying?
Speaker 3 (28:50):
Yeah, that was like the realiest one part of it.
Speaker 2 (28:53):
The first one was a British ship was the first one.
There's a moment that's famous for saying women and children first.
Can't remember the name of this ship. And it was
a concept and they put it down and then England
made it a really big part of being a hero
was woman and children first.
Speaker 5 (29:07):
And it wasn't that far before.
Speaker 2 (29:09):
I was eighteen ninety or something, so it hadn't been
going that long.
Speaker 1 (29:14):
But they're having a good time, by the way, and
Steerage was to say it was that that was.
Speaker 2 (29:18):
Where the party was.
Speaker 1 (29:19):
There was fiddles out idea that the people up the
top were having the time and the people down in
the bottom with pieces of crap rubbish. The people down
the bottom were having a bloody Apparently that was where
the parties.
Speaker 5 (29:29):
Were in the movie. That's Jim Cameron puts that in,
doesn't it They're all dancing and having a great time.
Speaker 2 (29:35):
I was on it. I was on a ship once
and I was working as a roadie for the band
on the ship. It was a cruise ship was the band.
The band was called element O Oh Sick And they
were playing on a cruise ship for for an and
and then and and I got a free go on
this cruise ship. I fucked up on the bat on
the first day. I got drunk and cut all Laney's
(29:58):
based strings off. Anyway, that sounds like a side story, yes,
side story, but anyway, because I was considered start, I
was considered staff and not a passenger. I was invited
to I could go down to the bar that they
had in the decks down below deck and they had
this kick ass bar. It's all rusty metal, bulkheads everything,
(30:19):
and they had a Metallica covers band. Everyone down there
was a Filipino Filipino Metallica covers band. The Heinekens were
fifty cents each, and there was just a huge Titanic
like part party down under the That was the real party.
That was the real party. And then you go up
and it's so punishing upstairs. Everyone's on a zimmer frame,
this fucking horrific horrible bars, you know. And then but downstairs,
(30:44):
so it rings true, it rangs true that below the
surfaces were the good part. The good parties are. So
if you find yourself threw dick cheers off and a
rubbish band off.
Speaker 5 (30:54):
Where you was you doing it in aid of the boat.
We're trying to save life.
Speaker 2 (30:57):
I found this window between this gap between c C
t V cameras and me and a mate who I
won't say, Dave Gibson, we thought we could let's throw
some stuff off I was a terrible person back there.
I feel bad for what I did to the environment.
Speaker 5 (31:10):
Wait, how did you cut Laney's bass strings? Because that
feels like you would have to do that intentionally.
Speaker 2 (31:15):
He tried to restring it. Know what happened was I
cut them off to quickly restring, but then realized I've
forgotten the replacement based strings absolute helmets. I went, I
went pump. I was like, cool, nice fresh based strings.
I'm gonna I'm gonna be the best rodeo can be.
I'm going to get ahead of the game when when
she opens her bass, it's going to have fresh strings
(31:37):
used the Metallica covers band. I had to go, and
I had to go and borrow based strings off a
cocktail type band that was playing on one of the decks.
When I say borrow, motherfucker charged me two on the
bucks for the strings playing demand. Dude, that was he
was the only oneyor of bass strings and ended up
(31:58):
going overboard with the Dick.
Speaker 3 (31:59):
Chears International waters. There's different rules.
Speaker 2 (32:03):
Wow, I'll tell you what.
Speaker 5 (32:04):
No trade commission out there.
Speaker 2 (32:05):
He didn't make it to port.
Speaker 1 (32:08):
Let's just say that, okay, over in a rubbishment, you
guys tell us how we can listen to the pod.
Speaker 2 (32:14):
Let's better not be on a rival network.
Speaker 5 (32:16):
The Titanic thinkers on the Internet and there's no rivalries
on there. Famously, everyone gets along really well.
Speaker 3 (32:22):
It's a place of dequorum and respect, isn't that?
Speaker 2 (32:24):
So? Would you say listen to season one first and
then season two or just get straight into season two?
Speaker 5 (32:29):
You can skip season one if you want. But it's
a great listen at one, best comedy podcast.
Speaker 3 (32:33):
Of the year. So ill love season one?
Speaker 5 (32:36):
What yeah, twenty twenty two.
Speaker 2 (32:39):
It's got resent. It's not like one of those fish
and chip shops at Metro seven exactly.
Speaker 5 (32:47):
But this, this new season is fantastic. We do legit
investigative journalism. We chat to a relative of light Holer. Yeah,
he lives in New Zealand. He's got a bunch of
family in New Zealand.
Speaker 2 (33:00):
Light On it does, jeez, tell Us is one of
those investigations. It's just kids. It's also as you take
the rings off, the off the onion.
Speaker 3 (33:09):
Yeah, term's kind of a journalist. You might say.
Speaker 5 (33:12):
We were supposed to be investigating the Canterbury Care as well.
I should have mentioned there, but Aarondy gave us the
money to investigate the Canterbury Care and we told them
we were going to do that.
Speaker 1 (33:21):
The terms kind of a journalist you could almost say
as a great compliment terms almost.
Speaker 2 (33:30):
Journalist's kind of a journalist.
Speaker 3 (33:32):
Kind of a journalist a little bit. Yeah, you just
need to get like a cheese cutter and a paper.
Speaker 2 (33:40):
That's right. I've got a question for you guys before
you go like there's been. This podcast is currently called
the Daily Bespoke, one of the best podcasts that the
New Zealand Podcast Radio Podcast Awards. I should have Well
we're talking about that kind of thing. But it's currently
called the Daily Bespoke Cast, and I'm thinking about changing
(34:03):
it to the Casual Chat. What do you think?
Speaker 5 (34:07):
No, what the current name the current names have been
a name for it.
Speaker 2 (34:11):
The Daily Bespoke, but it's but we've just had a
casual chat.
Speaker 5 (34:16):
But you've got to you've got to sell people on
the sizzle, not the steak. Be Spoke speaks to a
level of quality and intention and uniqueness that would entice
a listener the casual chat. This is why why am
I spend my time tuning into this? It's Matt Jerry obviously,
but we.
Speaker 2 (34:34):
Need to give them further spoke.
Speaker 1 (34:38):
The reason we called it that because it does sound tailored.
It sounds premium, it sounds special, but it's not premium.
It's an absolute piece of it's mostly terrible sexual stuff.
Speaker 3 (34:48):
I feel like our chat hasn't been casual. We've covered
the massacre of many people. That's not casual. It's not casual,
you know, it's hold on you know? Could you have
seen says the boat is going down?
Speaker 2 (35:02):
My experience of hanging out with you, it is casual.
People comes up.
Speaker 1 (35:10):
Yeah, a more casual than.
Speaker 3 (35:11):
Yeah, what I have learned in my life. Not casual
for everyone else to get complaints.
Speaker 5 (35:15):
Every house is bespoken.
Speaker 2 (35:17):
Okay, So how about this the formal chat that doesn't the.
Speaker 5 (35:21):
Same territory you're upstairs.
Speaker 2 (35:25):
We'll just got it the formal, you know, because that
reminds me of like a seventh form dark form formal. Okay,
form formal conversations. You've been listening to Matt and Jerry's
seventh form formal how to Get Drunk?
Speaker 5 (35:41):
Just I fel like I feel like you guys should
pick up the spiritual torch for this. This is real
quick and it's related to nothing we've cheated about. But
Richard Simmons died the day Trump got shot in the air,
and I feel like it's going to get buried. And
I feel like you two to kind of celebrate his life, like.
Speaker 2 (36:00):
He faked his death and then shot Trump.
Speaker 5 (36:03):
The ultimate about Trump, and.
Speaker 3 (36:05):
He's quick, you know, Simmons on his feet, a hero
has passed.
Speaker 2 (36:10):
Yeah, it's funny because Trump didn't even die and Shennon doherity.
She's fucking known she died and no one's going to He.
Speaker 5 (36:16):
Was famously not the nicest person in the world.
Speaker 2 (36:19):
She actually got kicked off charm for Charmed for being
an arsehole.
Speaker 5 (36:22):
Getting kicked off that's a high watermark. But Richard Simmons
a saint among us.
Speaker 1 (36:27):
So it was on that in New Zealand video. So
I mean, how old did he live to that's not
very old for all that exercise, how long? It's not
a very good ad for exercise.
Speaker 3 (36:38):
I've taken away from this. Actually don't exercise.
Speaker 2 (36:40):
You know. I feel bad for hassling how thin as
he was during that bloody in New Zealand had about
ten years ago, because he was sixty six at the time.
You can't blame a bloody dude for losing. But here
at sixty sex, can you he.
Speaker 5 (36:53):
Had the money there to get plugs if you want
to get Richard Simmons.
Speaker 3 (36:56):
He didn't.
Speaker 5 (36:57):
He didn't care, He didn't want to sort it out.
He was there for us, in there for him.
Speaker 1 (37:00):
For a guy did that much exercise, he didn't have
a very athletic body.
Speaker 2 (37:04):
He was just kind of he was.
Speaker 1 (37:06):
He was skinned, my skinny fare wasn't he time looked
like me?
Speaker 2 (37:11):
He was.
Speaker 3 (37:11):
He had a real bouncin about him.
Speaker 2 (37:13):
He was.
Speaker 1 (37:14):
He wasn't a tin pump I was. He was more
sort of a light aerobics guy. He was soft robots yea,
with lots of sexual inn windows.
Speaker 5 (37:22):
I going to the wrong guys. I thought you guys
would be the big.
Speaker 2 (37:26):
Were a bit older than you.
Speaker 1 (37:27):
So Richard Simmons he learned quite large over my childhood
and the Richard Simmons Show used to be on on
on in the mornings at ten thirty on the morning
and TV two or TV one when I was going
up and always got in the way of fucking play school.
Speaker 2 (37:43):
Yeah, and so it was really annoying because it was
like rich play school, because play School's on the Quarter
Past and Lives. Also he got wiped out by aerobics
old style. Absolutely, oh, wipe the floor. Aerobics are style
wiped the floor with as soon as Ostle came out,
Holy crap. Was waiting for play school? You're happy to wait? Yeah,
(38:10):
you'd wait a little bit longerf in.
Speaker 3 (38:12):
The era, you know.
Speaker 5 (38:13):
And without him, we wouldn't Who was the New Zealand?
Speaker 2 (38:16):
When?
Speaker 5 (38:16):
Who was on the first episode of Shorty Street, Like,
we wouldn't have Susiaken if we didn't have trailblazers like
Richard Simmons.
Speaker 1 (38:24):
R O P.
Speaker 2 (38:25):
She was fitnessac wasn't she?
Speaker 5 (38:28):
I forgot about that it was originally the New Zealand.
Speaker 1 (38:31):
I forgot who was the wounded and the one piece
and the one piece short arm shortly jumpsuit with the
big patch on the should that used to be in Hawaii.
Speaker 3 (38:40):
Who was the America Jane Fonder?
Speaker 1 (38:44):
Not Jane Fonder, but same era. He was a wounder.
It wasn't Richard Simmons anyway before my time potentially, but
interesting point.
Speaker 5 (38:54):
Interesting point I've come to you was the request.
Speaker 1 (38:58):
You'll find that there were casual chat about that tomorrow
on radio Hicky between six and nine on the Matt
and Jewy Show.
Speaker 2 (39:04):
All right, and that's the schedule.
Speaker 3 (39:07):
Chat.
Speaker 1 (39:07):
No, it's not Daily Spoke Dake, Yeah, hasn't she?
Speaker 2 (39:10):
All right? Okay, you buddy seem busy? Well are you go? Okay,
then thanks for coming in, guys, thanks for having us. Okay,
all right, you seem a bit sort of accusatory. All right, okay,
okay then all right, okay, okay, alright, hey bye, Hello,
I'm Matt Heath. You have been listening to the Matt
(39:32):
and Jerry Daily Bespoke podcast. Right now you can listen
to our Radio Highlights podcast, which you will absolutely get
barred up about anyway, sit to download, like, subscribe, right,
review all those great things.
Speaker 5 (39:44):
It really helps myself.
Speaker 2 (39:45):
And Jerry and to a lesser extent, mess and ruder.
If you want to discuss anything raised in this pod,
check out the Conclave, a Matt and Jerry Facebook discussion group.
And while I'm plugging stuff, my book, A Lifeless Punishing
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Speaker 2 (00:29):
Now it's the fifteenth to the seventh twenty twenty four.
(01:03):
I'm thinking about changing the name of this podcast. I
was thinking when I was when I was on a
e bike riding around the vineyards in central Targo, bloody
good time. You know you don't think about going to
the vineyards in the icy weather, but it's actually so spectacular.
I saw a whore excuse me, frost, oh, absolutely beautiful
(01:23):
going around tasting the reds. And as I was running around,
I's like this, do you know, this podcast should be cool.
What I actually saw a place called bespoke. I saw
two places called bespoke when I was riding around. I
was like, who could be called wore bespoke? Worse bespoke?
Wort could be that? It should you know, it should
be called the Casual Chat.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
Oh, the casual Chat.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
The casual Chat. Oh yeah, yeah, well, oh that's quite good,
the casual Chat, because then it's like, can be anything.
The other podcast, The Highlights, is a highly disciplined information
inseminating machine. Yeah, this is the casual Chant.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
I like the way that we're always looking for the
answer when it comes to what to call this.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
Well, it was called the intro for a long time,
and then that got really confused. The answer, Yeah they
got there was confusing people like the intro to what?
And then that's left because the because we were doing
the intro, then the big show started doing the outro,
and then they've got this outro that's hanging off the
back of the end. That's that's the fold of our intro.
Because of course people know the story. The podcast was
(02:23):
one long podcast with us doing an intro to it,
and then g Lane said we're cutting it in half.
He chopped in half and then it was left like
a hanging chat. But what do you reckon the casual chat?
Things go really well if you've got a cut.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
Yeah, casual chat, casual chat and.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
The kettle chat. Yeah, I see what you mean. I'd
like to hear people's thoughts and people going to say,
I can see like meshesn't here. But he'll be rolling
in his grave thinking about this because you know, like
we've done a lot of time. As he did made
him sound like he's dead. He might be dead after that.
The yeah, that's fair. But casual chat.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
Yeah, it's like good things do start with like Kodak
for example, Codek.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
Well, the guy called it Kodak because he did a
big invest Codek's not a word for anything. He did
this massive investigation into what successful companies were and it
was a.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
It was a cannon.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
Two things work really well. Red and yellow as colors
and a c they work really well. I mean you
might say McDonald's is red and yellow and doesn't have
a cut. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
They had the forward car for a while. Did you
have a drive a forward car a full car? Yeah,
as a car, the ka, the forward car, the Ford cut.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
That was a It was a and.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
This cut chairs.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
Cut cheers, the Gary Gary in the corner very popular.
You can get a cut cheer, Yeah, they're very very popular.
The cut chair.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
She had just sold a cut chair on trade meet yesterday.
What kind of cheer was it? It was a winged
arm chair.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
I need a fucking wing arm chair. Are you joking?
I fucking need it because I'm moving a couch upstairs.
I need I am in the business. I'm looking around
for a fucking wing arm chair.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
This was a family yelo from the Finel collection because my.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
Great my great grandfather.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
Yeah, my great grandfather owned a furniture business and they
used to make furniture and and this was one of the.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
As a result.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
You know, they've got lots of furniture in our family
from from that. And this was a piece that haven't
told my parents that I've sold.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
I needed to get rid of it.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
Yeah, but you would have given it to you, But
I didn't know you were in the in the in
the market for a winged arm chair. That's a really
good aren't you. I need a wing arm you for
Daddy's Dean. It would have been perfect for Daddy's den.
Speaker 3 (04:28):
It was an.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
It's a light champagne blush for the lure.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
Oh, it's like a kind of a was that the
one that was Was that the one that was in
your library?
Speaker 2 (04:37):
Yes, I was imagining the one that's in your library
for my den.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
It's exactly the one that was in the We're nearly in.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
A simulation, but the simulation was out of Saint because
I was on holiday for a week.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
Ah. It's the Murray John. It's named after It's named
after my dad when when the grand when his grandkids
were born, he named started naming furniture after It's the
Murray John. Ah, but I just didn't have a room
in the house. This is It was thirty seven dollars
to it sold for thirty seven dollars question. Yeah, I
would have paid thirty seven hundred dollars. No, I would
(05:09):
have given it to you if I knew that you've
got anything else?
Speaker 2 (05:12):
Yep, what do you got?
Speaker 1 (05:13):
We've got another We've got some other other fanal cheers
an arm chair wingdam I've got another wing damn cheer
do yeah, yeah, kicking that one because you can't have
two ones ones A little. The Murry John was quite
a lot bigger, than that, than the diner quite a
big one. The denim is that the denim is the
one that's named after Ethan the Groot's grandfather. So that's
(05:36):
he's that's the relationship on that side. So that's why
he's my second I think he's my second person.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
God damn it. Yeah, I need a fucking winged arm chair. Rudy,
you were going to say when I call.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
Them up and trade me and tell them that something
happened to it, say that your dog's had on it
and in the end I'll get like it'll take Should
I call them up and say do you actually want
Maybe I could say that I'll buy it off them.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
Well maybe it was thirty seven bucks, I buy it back,
trade me. Can you see they might not come around?
Can you see me a picture of it? Why don't
you get you you might get some bad feedback if
you did that. You never know.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
I don't really care about my feedback, to be honest,
because it's on Tossi's account. So let me just have
a like, your winged arm chair, your thirty seven bucks?
Are you map.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
To a big story?
Speaker 4 (06:17):
So you jumped up and down in it because you're
watching the euro twenty twenty four, one of the legs broke.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
Should I still want it? So? This is this?
Speaker 1 (06:26):
Tozzi wrote a great little blurb for it for it
reluctant sale of this family hear loom from the Finel
Collection and.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
Good working Order.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
It's got to be recovered to turn into a fully
functional arm chair, snoozing chair, breastfeeding chair, or any other.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
Style chair, breastfeeding cheer.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
Currently covered in light champagne valure, A delight to sit in.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
That deserves more than thirty seven dollars. I know that breastfeeding.
I know you can't breastfeed in a family. Tozzy used
to breastfeed at it very successfully. Oh that's okay. Here
it is.
Speaker 4 (07:01):
Can you pass us the picture over? You absolutely rubbing
it in Matt's face?
Speaker 2 (07:05):
Right?
Speaker 1 (07:05):
Thirty seven knowledge. I mean that's a good bye for
thirty seven bus.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
Sorry, I'm sorry, you've.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
Got to say that's a good buy for thirty seven bucks.
It looks like it's got to rip in the seat,
but it doesn't. I think that's why it only went
for thirty seven bucks. It was a poor photo taking
by Tossic.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
Yeah, so much going through. She's selling my family and
it's got. There's actually quite a suspicious stay right down
a little bit. It's where it talks about being recovered.
It wasn't actually it wasn't actually a cut chear, was it.
Speaker 3 (07:32):
No?
Speaker 1 (07:33):
The other do you want a piano store because I
sold I sold this piano store and then tells you
what dog does not come with?
Speaker 2 (07:40):
See that's good piano still piano store.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
The piano store went for thirty four dollars. I mean
the piano store was a piece of crap. Someone bought that.
That was also fairly.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
Have you got a I really need a Chesterfield arm cheer.
You got a Chesterfield umpire? Do you want to sell um? No?
Speaker 1 (07:59):
No, Unfortunately the Star Wars Millennium Falcon that we sold.
If we sold Star Wars Millennium Falcon, what we for
ten dollars fifteen?
Speaker 2 (08:08):
Do you know? It's funny. It was my son's fifteenth
birthday yesterday and I took him out for dinner. And
I've been running a line that when you're fifteen, you
don't get presents anymore. You get one dollar added to
your to your your pocket money. Yeah that's good, but
you don't get a present. That's good. And then and
so I ran this line, don't get a present, don't
get a present. He was like, cool, cool, we'll take
you out for dinner, but there's no present. And then
(08:30):
and then he saw me at the prison. I said,
you still into Star Wars Ligua, which is not and
he was like yeah, because he wants to be a
nice guy. Ah. And then we sit down for dinner
at a fantastic restaurant on Juvois Road that sounds like
Undi's down, but it's an Italian restaurant. Anyway, I whip
(08:50):
he opens the prison. He's been so nice, he's so
lovely about the presence. He goes, I've got because he
got some shoes, he got a new new hoodie. He's
very happy, but I could tell in his heart he
felt like he was missing the good present. And then
and then he was just gearing himself up to be
very magnanimous about a shitty Star Wars lego see it
that you'd get when you were ten. And then I've
(09:12):
got n nothing. No, I'd bought him a brand new laptop, ah,
like a high powered Mac laptop with like you know,
the latest him three chap, like a souped up hair
cass laptop and God, he was happy. He was happy.
It was great. I lowered the expectations. I lowered the
fucking He's.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
A nice boy, though, the way that he wouldn't have mattered.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
I mean, it's kind of like in a school bag,
you know, he needs it for school. It's not. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
Tozzy wrote for the Millennium Falcon Plastic Millennium Falcon Giant
Iconic Star Wars Millennium Falcon five hundred and forty by
four hundred miles Hours of fun imagining Chewi, She's good.
Hours of fun imagining Chewy and Han Solo taking the
Millennium Falcon and hyper drive towards the planet Tattooin.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
I think she's over engineering these. Did she get that off? Ai? No,
that's very high level.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
No, she asked me, so who She asked me a
few details about that? I said, well, Chilean Hans. So
I used to play that we're too well to the
planet Tatowin.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
Hell did they go to Tatouin? Actually you would know?
Speaker 1 (10:17):
Did they ever go to Tatuwin?
Speaker 2 (10:19):
Chill?
Speaker 1 (10:19):
We did they ever take the Millenni Falcon to Tatooin?
Speaker 2 (10:22):
You mate? Okay? Yeah, hey, listen, listen to this though,
dinner with Jesse Mulligan and Matt Heath. Sit back and
watch the conversation fly. On one side, we have the
ever charming, quick wooded Jesse Mulligan, a man whose words
flow as smoothly as his favorite wine. And on the
other the irreverent, hilarious Matt Heath, the master of mischief
and the kind of guy you trust to throw the
(10:43):
most unforgettable party. Together, they'll blend sharp, human, insightful commentary,
book chat, and a sprinkle of chaos. Buckle up, because
when Jesse and Matt start talking, you're in for a ride,
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Numbers limited. What happened to the third course? Hey? What
(11:04):
happened to the third course? I don't know, but that's
at the Black Barn. But I'm a master of mister
black Barn. You mean Black Barn in Hawk's Bay. Yeah? Yeah, wow, yeah, mate,
we're just are you traveling?
Speaker 1 (11:16):
You're traveling around peddling your book via some question and
answer sessions. Is that's what's going on there?
Speaker 2 (11:23):
Yeah? Oh, that'll be a good time. Yeah, yeah, tickets
available now. But I'm a master of mischief, which again
to TOSSI write that one as.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
Well, that one that's clearly wasn't written by you. I
can tell that. So of all the things that I
was selling, the dinner and amp, interestingly, the din and amp,
which I wanted to get rid of, went for two
hundred and thirty five dollars, made six hundred and seventy
dollars on trade last night.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
It's not bad. Hey, Should we come back with part
two of the Casual Chat. We've got some special guests,
jereing me. Special guests, Jimmy, you don't know who they
are there, you don't know who've gone to?
Speaker 1 (11:59):
What?
Speaker 2 (12:00):
No idea? Up next, we've got the hosts of Did
Titanic Sink? Season two?
Speaker 3 (12:06):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (12:06):
It did sunk? Are they just? I can see Tim
back just there. Did the Titanic sk Absolutely, it's sunk.
He's coming through. I can answer that question right away. Okay,
we'll be back in just a mind. We'll be back
and a moment with part two of the cavs ule
Chat or bespoke. Have your say on the Conclave the
(12:27):
Matt and Jerry Facebook discussion group whether you think we
should change it to the casual chat. Let's change it. Well,
so we're not telling me when he comes back to
it's just the casual chat.
Speaker 1 (12:35):
Okay, it's the casual chatry all right, Okay, Okay, then we'll.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
Be back.
Speaker 4 (12:45):
Hello, and we're back and we're back. Or there's some
hugging going on. Jeremy Well's hugging and howls and Matt
Heath now hugging tim mate, we're just going to fist
each other.
Speaker 2 (12:59):
That's excellent. Abbie houses coming as well.
Speaker 4 (13:02):
Abbie, I'm gonna like maneuver this microphone round at you
because I don't.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
Trust that one.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
So how're we going to.
Speaker 2 (13:15):
The unprofessional of the team, and you know it's unprofessional
as well. We're already started recording the podcast.
Speaker 5 (13:22):
That since that this was all yes, and it feels live.
It's as live live.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
It's like you know when they have document fancy documentaries
and they have as they're sitting up and putting the
mic on and they do the voice over it. So
we kind of run that kind of it's a real
look behind the curtains saying hello.
Speaker 5 (13:41):
You know I did that. I just swapped the mics
over and totally blinked on your bed. I'm so sorry
because I know these mics. You've got to get in there.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
Yeah, you gotta get it.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
You do have to get in there. He's worked these
mics before, worked these mics before.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
He's a seminal podcast godfather, I would, but he's a podcast.
Speaker 1 (14:02):
So welcome and termin airb Thank you Jerry, And what
are you guys up to? What's happening mate?
Speaker 5 (14:11):
We have just made a podcast. Have you heard of this? Medium?
Speaker 2 (14:17):
Yep? Podcast podcast?
Speaker 5 (14:19):
They're the hot new.
Speaker 3 (14:19):
Thing right, It's like the radio but on the internet.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
Wow, they hanging on the radio is on the internet
as well.
Speaker 5 (14:26):
Ship the check us out. We've done a second season
of a podcast called Did Titanic Sync For? Do you
describe Radio in New Zealand as a rival network?
Speaker 1 (14:37):
Since you're quite dum, probably, I don't think anything's right.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
I mean, I mean it's I.
Speaker 5 (14:44):
Guess it's for a rival network that I won't name radio.
Speaker 3 (14:50):
You're a sworn enemy.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (14:53):
The first the first season I did with Carlo Ritchie,
who's a very smart, funny Australian commed who knows everything
about the Titanic.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
Like, I like how you it's just going to complicate
compliment you on saying did Titanic sink? Yes, but then
you said that Titanic. Don't use that because unless a podcast,
we'll call it did that Titanic? Think?
Speaker 5 (15:15):
Yes, but it's Carlo wouldn't allow that sort of thing.
He wouldn't allow it.
Speaker 1 (15:20):
But you have allowed it. So have you allowed the article?
Speaker 5 (15:23):
And now I'm an idiot? So I refer to it
as the Titanic, but Carlo refers to it exclusively as
the Ari.
Speaker 2 (15:31):
How do you how do you refer to the Olympics?
Do you refer to them as the games of the
thirty four thirty fourth Olympiad? Would?
Speaker 1 (15:40):
Okay, so so it's called did Titanic Titanic Sink?
Speaker 2 (15:44):
I know? Oh, sorry, you go to please.
Speaker 1 (15:46):
I know that Abbie Howes is a huge fan of
Titanic and all things Titanic.
Speaker 3 (15:53):
And all the deaths. Yeah, I loved it.
Speaker 1 (15:55):
Yes, she's very focused on the deaths. Because Abby and
I are.
Speaker 2 (16:01):
We allowed to say what?
Speaker 3 (16:02):
We're not allowed?
Speaker 1 (16:03):
Okay, well I'm not going to say anything.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
Then I know as well. Ah, are we not.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
Allowed to say anything?
Speaker 3 (16:12):
Secret?
Speaker 1 (16:13):
Okay, that's fine. I was chatting to Abby and we
got talking about and and because recently I have gone
deep on Titanic, always been interested, but.
Speaker 2 (16:29):
Not like James Cameron. You didn't acually go down in
the little subby Webb, did you. No? I didn't go down.
Speaker 3 (16:33):
Would you go down in the No?
Speaker 2 (16:35):
I don't want to go down after that other sub.
Speaker 5 (16:37):
Well, you've got to use the PlayStation controller.
Speaker 2 (16:40):
That's the problem, that's exactly.
Speaker 5 (16:43):
Yeah, they skimped on it.
Speaker 2 (16:44):
Yeah, so so tell us about the podcast.
Speaker 5 (16:47):
Sorry, so so we did one season two years ago.
Carlum and I won a Comedy Award one Best Comedy
at the New Zealand Podcast Woods, which was confusing for
us because we thought we were making a history podcast.
And then it was all about a conspiracy theory that
the Titanic got switched with its sister ship, which got
struck by a naval vessel and intentionally sunk for insurance money.
(17:10):
Carlo knows all the details and he laid it out
for me episode episode. We had Abby on the final episode,
and Abby shocked me by being the only person I'd
ever met who could rival Carlo's knowledge on the Titanic.
And it was like watching these two beautiful minds, you know,
meet for the first time. So then we got some
money from a rival network to do a second season
(17:33):
and we had to get Ebby to direct it during
the season.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
Wow, so you get money for your podcast? We just
do that. We just do this thing for fucking free us.
Speaker 3 (17:45):
You survive of you're paid in the power of friendship.
Speaker 2 (17:50):
We do it to promote people. We are only doing
it because we want to be good members of the
community and promote people like you guys doing your podcasts.
Speaker 3 (17:58):
That was really altruistic.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
Yeah, look, should be that the way around, surely.
Speaker 5 (18:04):
Yeah, what have you got on you? I've only got cards.
Speaker 2 (18:09):
Well, I've got a paid wife. But there's a one point.
Speaker 5 (18:15):
Charge on that.
Speaker 1 (18:18):
So just quickly, most fascinating Titanic fact, Abby.
Speaker 3 (18:24):
Well, here's what I think. Well, here's one that's compelled
me recently, which we talk about on the podcast a
little bit, which is that the order for women and
children only. Well, it was interpreted two different ways. So
you've got you got the Titanic right, it's going down.
You've got ships basically on either side being lowered, one
(18:46):
by a officer called Murdoch, one by officer called Lightholer.
Murdoch interpreted the orders as women and children first, yes,
so like he would fill up the boats of women
and children. But if there were any men around, yeah,
he'd put them on the boat.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
Good ond good on, mood off.
Speaker 3 (19:06):
Yeah. On the other side, Lightoler into asshole.
Speaker 1 (19:10):
Into figure of history.
Speaker 2 (19:13):
Asshole. Yeah, he had a gun.
Speaker 5 (19:15):
Our whole season is about him.
Speaker 2 (19:17):
So basically he interpreted that woman and children only.
Speaker 3 (19:20):
So he would send down boats that were he sent
down boats they were half full, less than half full
when there were men around, and you.
Speaker 2 (19:27):
Had husband wives going please, please please, and what about that?
The saddest story is that kid. It was his fifteenth birthday,
wasn't it? And he got his big boy pants because
he had big boy pants on, was it? Lila Lightolerler
was like, fuck you you're a man. You've got pants on?
Speaker 3 (19:43):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (19:44):
How did you guys know so much about the Titana?
Speaker 2 (19:46):
And everyone knows everyone everyone I've seen the movie.
Speaker 5 (19:52):
Light Sholer interestingly is also in Dunkirk the movie because
this guy just he's like a forest gump of British historically.
Speaker 2 (19:59):
V did he take out one of the little boats.
He did.
Speaker 5 (20:01):
He took out his little personal yacht and saved a
bunch of dudes. He's an incredible figure.
Speaker 2 (20:06):
So was that because he was feeling bad about interpreting
them women and children? First thing wrong, here's the beauty
of light older.
Speaker 5 (20:13):
He doesn't feel bad about anything.
Speaker 3 (20:16):
He loves the sea mistress.
Speaker 5 (20:20):
Arguably, we've spent half an episode describing a situation where
there's a one of the life boats called Collapsible b
tipped upside down. He got a bunch of people on
and commandeered it and basically saved dozens of people's lives
by coordinating them to roll with the sea and not
(20:40):
tip it over until they got rescued. He's a crazy dude,
and we talked to his great nephew. Okay directly, Oh,
hold on, the pope.
Speaker 1 (20:48):
I thought the sea conditions were completely dead, calm, flat,
no swell at all.
Speaker 5 (20:52):
Originally they were, but then the sea got a bit
choppy after and also there was all these wakes being
created by the Titanic.
Speaker 3 (20:59):
And the boat is upside down, so it's it's like
fully upside down, so they're balancing on it like you know,
this straddled the boat basically excuse me, Yeah, they made
view No, there's a story about then they made love
to whatever life.
Speaker 2 (21:18):
Well, and ejaculated the actual lifeboat.
Speaker 5 (21:22):
That what our podcast is about.
Speaker 3 (21:24):
It's about the beautiful boat. Baby.
Speaker 2 (21:27):
It does raise a question, though it doesn't it so
if you know you're definitely going to die, because there's
some couples that just gave up and went into their
bed rooms, right, and people are saying, well, at the
end of the world, women might as well make love,
you know, like with this asteroids coming to all their
let's shall we make love? I don't know. I don't.
I don't think I'll be into it.
Speaker 5 (21:44):
Because you want to think you would do it, but
I reckon i'd.
Speaker 2 (21:46):
Be I don't get turned on by dying, you know,
so I reckon at the end, I'd be like actually,
like so you're with your message and she's like, shall
we were about to die? I don't think I can
perform under these and children aside.
Speaker 1 (22:06):
You would have pushed women and children away to get
into the lifeboat.
Speaker 2 (22:09):
You would have produced your own arm. What are you
and I'm going to make love in the lifeboat? I
don't know when the kids are.
Speaker 1 (22:15):
I don't think it's not easy to make love. On
the other thing is because the ship went up so
much before it went down, which was kind.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
Of sexual in a way.
Speaker 1 (22:23):
The way that actually entered the border was a little
bit like anyway.
Speaker 3 (22:26):
That's our experienced it. He went up, but then when
everything was.
Speaker 1 (22:32):
Because you couldn't have been in your bed because you
would have slid slidden off.
Speaker 2 (22:35):
How to get off the boat?
Speaker 5 (22:38):
That's another incredible story.
Speaker 2 (22:40):
So forget about who he was making love to.
Speaker 5 (22:42):
He got sucked down by the force of this huge vessel,
the largest man made object.
Speaker 3 (22:48):
Right, Yes, yes, so he did go down with the ship.
He did not get on life.
Speaker 2 (22:52):
Sucked down, But did he jump off at any point?
Speaker 5 (22:56):
In fact, there's a quote from him which we reference
in the podcast. I didn't leave Titanic. Titanic left me.
Speaker 2 (23:02):
So he got sucked the ego, hasn't he?
Speaker 5 (23:04):
And then something I think exploded in the water, maybe
one of the boilers with something that produced an air
bubble which shot him back up. Well, because God decided
it was not his time.
Speaker 2 (23:15):
I always wonder yesterday, Yes God God, And he's he
makes fucking decisions and key moments, doesn't People lied? He's
a real club. It happened to them in the Titanic.
Oh the season.
Speaker 5 (23:29):
You need to listen to this new season Titanic, saying,
because this is what it's all about.
Speaker 2 (23:33):
Because that's the thing. But who lies and who things
change me? You've got adaptive memory disorder that we all
suffer from. I mean, how many times have you told
a story like I was telling a story about something
that happened to me and my friends, telling over and
over again, and then I saw a picture of it
and realized I was never there.
Speaker 5 (23:50):
But the t shirt ken an incident might have never happened,
but you and I have just told it so many
times that we've just weld it.
Speaker 2 (23:58):
Happened. But talking about a time when I shot him
and the you know timbat used to used to be
the me. Me and him used to do a drive
show on Hidaky many years ago. But I think there
was a part of it that I have changed on
purpose to try and make myself look better. The idea
that because we did a trial and decided not to
do it, and then we went ahead later and did
(24:20):
it anyway. And I've always tried to push the line
I had to do it because it was on your rundown,
because you did the rundown. And look, the truth is,
and I'm willing to admit that Now we did it
because we were drunk, not because it was on the rundown.
Speaker 5 (24:35):
Yeah, you know I did it, I think because I
was drunk, consually drunk, but.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
To make it sound professional like, because we always followed
the rundown for our radio show religiously. That's why I
shot you in the nick and killed you with a
T shirt.
Speaker 5 (24:50):
We were on our first out of town trip for
the radio show and we were hanged hanging out with
the Canadian Yeah, and someone gave us T shirt catered
they were having a time. But yeah, light a great guy.
Speaker 1 (25:04):
Yeah, so he amazing that he that he went down
with the ship and then he got got back up again.
Speaker 5 (25:10):
And saved a bunch of people after that by, as
I say, taking command of.
Speaker 2 (25:15):
The bit I find the most terrifying about the Titanic,
and actually probably the second bit, but everyone that was
in the life boats had to make the decision to
not go back to pick people up.
Speaker 5 (25:26):
Yes, because Samped and light on it talks about this
and the investigations that were subsequent. You could hear everything.
You could hear people's thing so quiet and still you
just hear everyone dying.
Speaker 3 (25:37):
I thought you were going to say the worst thing
about it was the people in the lifeboats had to
make small talk.
Speaker 2 (25:45):
So what are you you know, like you're married. Yeah,
the fucker got left on the boat because like Toler
wouldn't let him on.
Speaker 5 (25:53):
He he's got a great story of character from the Titanic.
Who was your favorite person when we asked you to
see some one?
Speaker 3 (25:59):
Oh? Yes, oh yeah, my favorite. But I think the
most I think the most relatable person on the Titanic
is the baker. His name's like Charles Golgan. I think Golgan.
I think I'm pronouncing it wrong, but he's the baker.
His instinct was like, Titanic is going down, I'm gonna
get drunk. So he drank I think a whole bottle
of whiskey. And then people saw him just throwing dick
(26:21):
chairs off the Titanic case. I think he thought it
might help.
Speaker 2 (26:25):
He's like, oh arranging.
Speaker 3 (26:28):
Yeah, he was throwing them in the water, and he's like,
I'm a hero for this. He's the last person to
get off the Titanic, and he says he wrote it
down like an elevator, so he managed to get on
the top of the tip. Yeah, he got on the
turb He wrote it all the way down, he said,
didn't even get my hair with He's in the water
swimming around, still so drunk that he's like, it wasn't
(26:49):
even cold to me. He just kind of swings. I
think he swims around for about two hours and then
he gets picked up by a light boat and survives.
Speaker 2 (27:00):
Yeah, and yet our fucking government won't let us drunk drive. Wow,
but it was smart. That was smart. That was clever.
Speaker 3 (27:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (27:14):
What about the fact that people said that the people
who were down in steerage down the down the bottom,
that that they that people didn't care about them, and
that they had the doors locked and they were allowed
up and all that sort of stuff. It turns out
that that's a myth.
Speaker 3 (27:29):
That's not true. They didn't lock the doors.
Speaker 1 (27:31):
No, No, that was that was for immigration reasons.
Speaker 2 (27:34):
They were immigration doors, so you couldn't because they had
a problems. If you were in third class and a
woman or a child, you had better chance of surviving
than a man in first class.
Speaker 1 (27:46):
Yes, yeah, that's right, that was That's interesting because the
women and children thing was a bloody interesting thing back
in those days, and it makes sense to me. I've
thought about this about evolution and it does make sense
because historically women and children have always been you know,
men will die for women and children.
Speaker 2 (28:02):
That's the way it was.
Speaker 1 (28:03):
And the reason for that is because you can continue
on as a species with women and children. You can
lose a lot of men, and you're okay. If you
lose a whole lot of your women, you're in trouble
because you've got nobody to have babies.
Speaker 2 (28:14):
Men can be involved in a lot more pregnancies. That's right,
needy one man to survive. Take on this, which is
where it comes to the square.
Speaker 3 (28:27):
Well, I think actually the women and children's first thing
had to be implemented because in previous like ships going
down and stuff, women and children slaughtered. Really yeah, yeah,
that they are a lot more men would survive.
Speaker 2 (28:43):
Really yeah.
Speaker 3 (28:44):
They had to be like, can we give to children
on the boat?
Speaker 1 (28:47):
So they just had more honor on the Titanic, Is
that what you're saying?
Speaker 3 (28:50):
Yeah, that was like the realiest one part of it.
Speaker 2 (28:53):
The first one was a British ship was the first one.
There's a moment that's famous for saying women and children first.
Can't remember the name of this ship. And it was
a concept and they put it down and then England
made it a really big part of being a hero
was woman and children first.
Speaker 5 (29:07):
And it wasn't that far before.
Speaker 2 (29:09):
I was eighteen ninety or something, so it hadn't been
going that long.
Speaker 1 (29:14):
But they're having a good time, by the way, and
Steerage was to say it was that that was.
Speaker 2 (29:18):
Where the party was.
Speaker 1 (29:19):
There was fiddles out idea that the people up the
top were having the time and the people down in
the bottom with pieces of crap rubbish. The people down
the bottom were having a bloody Apparently that was where
the parties.
Speaker 5 (29:29):
Were in the movie. That's Jim Cameron puts that in,
doesn't it They're all dancing and having a great time.
Speaker 2 (29:35):
I was on it. I was on a ship once
and I was working as a roadie for the band
on the ship. It was a cruise ship was the band.
The band was called element O Oh Sick And they
were playing on a cruise ship for for an and
and then and and I got a free go on
this cruise ship. I fucked up on the bat on
the first day. I got drunk and cut all Laney's
(29:58):
based strings off. Anyway, that sounds like a side story, yes,
side story, but anyway, because I was considered start, I
was considered staff and not a passenger. I was invited
to I could go down to the bar that they
had in the decks down below deck and they had
this kick ass bar. It's all rusty metal, bulkheads everything,
(30:19):
and they had a Metallica covers band. Everyone down there
was a Filipino Filipino Metallica covers band. The Heinekens were
fifty cents each, and there was just a huge Titanic
like part party down under the That was the real party.
That was the real party. And then you go up
and it's so punishing upstairs. Everyone's on a zimmer frame,
this fucking horrific horrible bars, you know. And then but downstairs,
(30:44):
so it rings true, it rangs true that below the
surfaces were the good part. The good parties are. So
if you find yourself threw dick cheers off and a
rubbish band off.
Speaker 5 (30:54):
Where you was you doing it in aid of the boat.
We're trying to save life.
Speaker 2 (30:57):
I found this window between this gap between c C
t V cameras and me and a mate who I
won't say, Dave Gibson, we thought we could let's throw
some stuff off I was a terrible person back there.
I feel bad for what I did to the environment.
Speaker 5 (31:10):
Wait, how did you cut Laney's bass strings? Because that
feels like you would have to do that intentionally.
Speaker 2 (31:15):
He tried to restring it. Know what happened was I
cut them off to quickly restring, but then realized I've
forgotten the replacement based strings absolute helmets. I went, I
went pump. I was like, cool, nice fresh based strings.
I'm gonna I'm gonna be the best rodeo can be.
I'm going to get ahead of the game when when
she opens her bass, it's going to have fresh strings
(31:37):
used the Metallica covers band. I had to go, and
I had to go and borrow based strings off a
cocktail type band that was playing on one of the decks.
When I say borrow, motherfucker charged me two on the
bucks for the strings playing demand. Dude, that was he
was the only oneyor of bass strings and ended up
(31:58):
going overboard with the Dick.
Speaker 3 (31:59):
Chears International waters. There's different rules.
Speaker 2 (32:03):
Wow, I'll tell you what.
Speaker 5 (32:04):
No trade commission out there.
Speaker 2 (32:05):
He didn't make it to port.
Speaker 1 (32:08):
Let's just say that, okay, over in a rubbishment, you
guys tell us how we can listen to the pod.
Speaker 2 (32:14):
Let's better not be on a rival network.
Speaker 5 (32:16):
The Titanic thinkers on the Internet and there's no rivalries
on there. Famously, everyone gets along really well.
Speaker 3 (32:22):
It's a place of dequorum and respect, isn't that?
Speaker 2 (32:24):
So? Would you say listen to season one first and
then season two or just get straight into season two?
Speaker 5 (32:29):
You can skip season one if you want. But it's
a great listen at one, best comedy podcast.
Speaker 3 (32:33):
Of the year. So ill love season one?
Speaker 5 (32:36):
What yeah, twenty twenty two.
Speaker 2 (32:39):
It's got resent. It's not like one of those fish
and chip shops at Metro seven exactly.
Speaker 5 (32:47):
But this, this new season is fantastic. We do legit
investigative journalism. We chat to a relative of light Holer. Yeah,
he lives in New Zealand. He's got a bunch of
family in New Zealand.
Speaker 2 (33:00):
Light On it does, jeez, tell Us is one of
those investigations. It's just kids. It's also as you take
the rings off, the off the onion.
Speaker 3 (33:09):
Yeah, term's kind of a journalist. You might say.
Speaker 5 (33:12):
We were supposed to be investigating the Canterbury Care as well.
I should have mentioned there, but Aarondy gave us the
money to investigate the Canterbury Care and we told them
we were going to do that.
Speaker 1 (33:21):
The terms kind of a journalist you could almost say
as a great compliment terms almost.
Speaker 2 (33:30):
Journalist's kind of a journalist.
Speaker 3 (33:32):
Kind of a journalist a little bit. Yeah, you just
need to get like a cheese cutter and a paper.
Speaker 2 (33:40):
That's right. I've got a question for you guys before
you go like there's been. This podcast is currently called
the Daily Bespoke, one of the best podcasts that the
New Zealand Podcast Radio Podcast Awards. I should have Well
we're talking about that kind of thing. But it's currently
called the Daily Bespoke Cast, and I'm thinking about changing
(34:03):
it to the Casual Chat. What do you think?
Speaker 5 (34:07):
No, what the current name the current names have been
a name for it.
Speaker 2 (34:11):
The Daily Bespoke, but it's but we've just had a
casual chat.
Speaker 5 (34:16):
But you've got to you've got to sell people on
the sizzle, not the steak. Be Spoke speaks to a
level of quality and intention and uniqueness that would entice
a listener the casual chat. This is why why am
I spend my time tuning into this? It's Matt Jerry obviously,
but we.
Speaker 2 (34:34):
Need to give them further spoke.
Speaker 1 (34:38):
The reason we called it that because it does sound tailored.
It sounds premium, it sounds special, but it's not premium.
It's an absolute piece of it's mostly terrible sexual stuff.
Speaker 3 (34:48):
I feel like our chat hasn't been casual. We've covered
the massacre of many people. That's not casual. It's not casual,
you know, it's hold on you know? Could you have
seen says the boat is going down?
Speaker 2 (35:02):
My experience of hanging out with you, it is casual.
People comes up.
Speaker 1 (35:10):
Yeah, a more casual than.
Speaker 3 (35:11):
Yeah, what I have learned in my life. Not casual
for everyone else to get complaints.
Speaker 5 (35:15):
Every house is bespoken.
Speaker 2 (35:17):
Okay, So how about this the formal chat that doesn't the.
Speaker 5 (35:21):
Same territory you're upstairs.
Speaker 2 (35:25):
We'll just got it the formal, you know, because that
reminds me of like a seventh form dark form formal. Okay,
form formal conversations. You've been listening to Matt and Jerry's
seventh form formal how to Get Drunk?
Speaker 5 (35:41):
Just I fel like I feel like you guys should
pick up the spiritual torch for this. This is real
quick and it's related to nothing we've cheated about. But
Richard Simmons died the day Trump got shot in the air,
and I feel like it's going to get buried. And
I feel like you two to kind of celebrate his life, like.
Speaker 2 (36:00):
He faked his death and then shot Trump.
Speaker 5 (36:03):
The ultimate about Trump, and.
Speaker 3 (36:05):
He's quick, you know, Simmons on his feet, a hero
has passed.
Speaker 2 (36:10):
Yeah, it's funny because Trump didn't even die and Shennon doherity.
She's fucking known she died and no one's going to He.
Speaker 5 (36:16):
Was famously not the nicest person in the world.
Speaker 2 (36:19):
She actually got kicked off charm for Charmed for being
an arsehole.
Speaker 5 (36:22):
Getting kicked off that's a high watermark. But Richard Simmons
a saint among us.
Speaker 1 (36:27):
So it was on that in New Zealand video. So
I mean, how old did he live to that's not
very old for all that exercise, how long? It's not
a very good ad for exercise.
Speaker 3 (36:38):
I've taken away from this. Actually don't exercise.
Speaker 2 (36:40):
You know. I feel bad for hassling how thin as
he was during that bloody in New Zealand had about
ten years ago, because he was sixty six at the time.
You can't blame a bloody dude for losing. But here
at sixty sex, can you he.
Speaker 5 (36:53):
Had the money there to get plugs if you want
to get Richard Simmons.
Speaker 3 (36:56):
He didn't.
Speaker 5 (36:57):
He didn't care, He didn't want to sort it out.
He was there for us, in there for him.
Speaker 1 (37:00):
For a guy did that much exercise, he didn't have
a very athletic body.
Speaker 2 (37:04):
He was just kind of he was.
Speaker 1 (37:06):
He was skinned, my skinny fare wasn't he time looked
like me?
Speaker 2 (37:11):
He was.
Speaker 3 (37:11):
He had a real bouncin about him.
Speaker 2 (37:13):
He was.
Speaker 1 (37:14):
He wasn't a tin pump I was. He was more
sort of a light aerobics guy. He was soft robots yea,
with lots of sexual inn windows.
Speaker 5 (37:22):
I going to the wrong guys. I thought you guys
would be the big.
Speaker 2 (37:26):
Were a bit older than you.
Speaker 1 (37:27):
So Richard Simmons he learned quite large over my childhood
and the Richard Simmons Show used to be on on
on in the mornings at ten thirty on the morning
and TV two or TV one when I was going
up and always got in the way of fucking play school.
Speaker 2 (37:43):
Yeah, and so it was really annoying because it was
like rich play school, because play School's on the Quarter
Past and Lives. Also he got wiped out by aerobics
old style. Absolutely, oh, wipe the floor. Aerobics are style
wiped the floor with as soon as Ostle came out,
Holy crap. Was waiting for play school? You're happy to wait? Yeah,
(38:10):
you'd wait a little bit longerf in.
Speaker 3 (38:12):
The era, you know.
Speaker 5 (38:13):
And without him, we wouldn't Who was the New Zealand?
Speaker 2 (38:16):
When?
Speaker 5 (38:16):
Who was on the first episode of Shorty Street, Like,
we wouldn't have Susiaken if we didn't have trailblazers like
Richard Simmons.
Speaker 1 (38:24):
R O P.
Speaker 2 (38:25):
She was fitnessac wasn't she?
Speaker 5 (38:28):
I forgot about that it was originally the New Zealand.
Speaker 1 (38:31):
I forgot who was the wounded and the one piece
and the one piece short arm shortly jumpsuit with the
big patch on the should that used to be in Hawaii.
Speaker 3 (38:40):
Who was the America Jane Fonder?
Speaker 1 (38:44):
Not Jane Fonder, but same era. He was a wounder.
It wasn't Richard Simmons anyway before my time potentially, but
interesting point.
Speaker 5 (38:54):
Interesting point I've come to you was the request.
Speaker 1 (38:58):
You'll find that there were casual chat about that tomorrow
on radio Hicky between six and nine on the Matt
and Jewy Show.
Speaker 2 (39:04):
All right, and that's the schedule.
Speaker 3 (39:07):
Chat.
Speaker 1 (39:07):
No, it's not Daily Spoke Dake, Yeah, hasn't she?
Speaker 2 (39:10):
All right? Okay, you buddy seem busy? Well are you go? Okay,
then thanks for coming in, guys, thanks for having us. Okay,
all right, you seem a bit sort of accusatory. All right, okay,
okay then all right, okay, okay, alright, hey bye, Hello,
I'm Matt Heath. You have been listening to the Matt
(39:32):
and Jerry Daily Bespoke podcast. Right now you can listen
to our Radio Highlights podcast, which you will absolutely get
barred up about anyway, sit to download, like, subscribe, right,
review all those great things.
Speaker 5 (39:44):
It really helps myself.
Speaker 2 (39:45):
And Jerry and to a lesser extent, mess and ruder.
If you want to discuss anything raised in this pod,
check out the Conclave, a Matt and Jerry Facebook discussion group.
And while I'm plugging stuff, my book, A Lifeless Punishing
Thirteen Ways to Love the Life You've Got is out
now get it wherever you get your book, or just
google the bastard. Anyway. You seem busy, I'll let you go.
Bless blessed, blessed. Give them a taste of Kiwi from me.
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