November 4, 2025 • 18 mins
On the pod today, Zoe and Rooda join Manaia for a deep dive on the ins and outs of flatting.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Madiem Media manaia am Man Madiem manaia manaia am Man
get A.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
It's Jerry here from the Headachy Breakfast. Just letting you
know that if you're listening to the podcast but didn't
know that we also do a live radio show, we do.
And if you're wondering how to find out what frequency
to listen to us in your area, just takes north
or South as an Island to three four eight three
and we'll let you know. And now let's get on
with the podcast.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
Welcoman to the podcast. No Jerry and no matter that
he has had to head off to work. What are
you guys laughing at?
Speaker 3 (01:00):
I'm laughing because someone what happened walked baby? And the
fifth then that came into my head was on Cheers
when they just go Norm and that was the and
I couldn't shake it. And you're trying to intro the
podcast and I'm just going, Norm.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
I don't get that reference. I'm imagining Zoe at all
of twenty one years old, doesn't get that either, Norm. No, man,
he had to bounce. He has an actual job, a
real job, but he'll be back in tomorrow morning. And
I think maybe we can, because we've got a lot
of texts coming through on three four eight three this
morning saying whatever happened to that show? I think we
(01:38):
can delve into the history of the of the show tomorrow.
Or maybe Medi doesn't want to talk about it, but.
Speaker 4 (01:43):
Yeah, he mentioned PTSD a few times this morning.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
Oh look, and you know people always ask us what
happens what the songs are playing? What happened today was
he was killed in the fetal position, crying in the
corner of the studio. But you know, we picked them up,
dusted them off a couple of times, and got him
back in. I've just become away this morning that I
paid no attention to zod Or because you were looking
for a flat, you men, and you found one.
Speaker 5 (02:05):
Oh god, it's such a hassle.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
Hey, it's such a fuck around.
Speaker 5 (02:09):
It's so awful.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
And are there a lot of people competing for the
same flats at the moment.
Speaker 6 (02:14):
Yeah, it's the most awkward thing when you go to
a flat viewing and you think it's just going to
be you in the relton and there's like fifty other
people there and they're all it's all like solo people,
but they're all a flat mate. So they're all videoing
around the house, walking through videoing the flat and you're
like in the video like piece like here, so hey,
and so it has the bathroom.
Speaker 5 (02:35):
Oh god, I don't even dude.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
We could put like grandstand couches in here and then
we could get all the boys around and watch the football.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (02:43):
When they talk like they already have the place, you
don't know who's going to get the places us here?
Speaker 1 (02:48):
And so who? How many did you look at it?
First of all?
Speaker 3 (02:50):
Oh?
Speaker 5 (02:51):
Way, too many?
Speaker 1 (02:51):
Way way?
Speaker 6 (02:53):
And I looked at some shockers, like you know when
they say it's three bedrooms but it ends up just
being two bedrooms and a study, which is just like
a close it really, so you can't get three people
in there, it's just impossible.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
And how many people were you looking for?
Speaker 6 (03:07):
Well, we were looking at a three bedroom with my
other flat mates, or just a one bedroom with just
me and my long suffering partner.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
I will say, once you go to having your own place,
you will never have flatmates again.
Speaker 6 (03:18):
See this is why we were his attempt, just moving
in just the two of us. Yeah, yeah, because obviously
that Yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
And you guys have been on the rocks lately. I
think that once you lately while when member must has
moved into our first flat together with no flat. But
we went from having eight people in our flat we
had four couples to our own place or couples. Yeah,
who was that? It was in Seattle to west Auckland.
(03:48):
It was a massive house and to be fair, we
had it quite good for quite a while. It was
just two couples for a while.
Speaker 6 (03:54):
It's also quite cheap usually when you do the couples
and it's multiple rooms.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
Yeah, but then try because it we didn't do like
a flat dinner situation, so try four different couples trying
to cook dinner at the same time. There's a lot
of takeaways going on. That gets expensive. And it was like, yeah,
I don't know, it was a weird situation. But then
once you go to your own place, you will never
go back to flating again. Yeah, it's nothing in your
(04:19):
house is there by mistat. Everything in there is something
you bought, you know what I mean, Like when you
go back into your flat and you're like, fuck, that
thing's ugly over there, but we're going to keep it
because it's you know, Sarah's thing or cups and pots
and pans.
Speaker 5 (04:32):
Yeah, this is very true.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
No more group chats, oh the group chats man, No
more who left the blah blah blah, who did the
dishes wrong? Whatever, None of that kind of shit. I
used to have a flat mate and Timoru, who I
was down in the basically the basement, and he was
directly above me, and whenever he got out of the shower,
I'll say his name, I don't think of mine, Josh.
(04:57):
Whenever Josh got out of the shower, he would go
into rooms direct the above mine and he would blast
like scream o music. This is like nine o'clock at night,
ten o'clock at night, and he's just blearing the screamo music.
And so one night I was just like, I've had
a fucking guard, so I'm going to head up Josh
and I walk into the rooms just continue fucking music
that and he goes, my music speaks to me the
(05:18):
way your music speaks to you. I was like, can
it speak to you a little bit quieter and earlier
in the day. Exactly who wants to listen to screamators
before they go to sleep? But apparently that's what put
him to sleep. That kind of shit that all that
all goes out the window once you get your own place.
Speaker 6 (05:36):
Yeah, we've locked in a place for just the two
of us, so I have yes, Oh, congratulations, very excited
about that because it just it's it takes so long
to find a good place. And we were only we're
only leaving our current flat because our landlord decided to
body sell the place and we thought I was just
gonna get brought by investors and they can just stay
there as renters, and they're like, now we want it
for ourselves.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
We had one of those situations as well. We oh
it is because you're like, you pretty set up and
then they're like, you're going to get out in six weeks.
Speaker 5 (06:03):
It's six weeks.
Speaker 6 (06:03):
That's the thing as well, Like sometimes if you're moving
out of a flat, you still you just find someone
else to fit into your room, but if they give
you a deadline, it's and then sometimes you have to
pay the double rent.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
We we did a spike move. The last time that
happened to us. We were like, oh, you've got six
weeks to get out, and then I was like, well,
we're leaving tomorrow, and we just moved into a flat
like a block away shitolf flat. We were only supposed
to be there for about three months, but we ended
up being there for a year.
Speaker 5 (06:29):
While we also because it was a contract.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
No, it was because we had bought a new built
house before it had finished, and it kept getting delayed,
kept getting delayed, and in the meantime we were buying
stuff for the new house, but it had to sit
in the apartment that we rented, so we had like
a fridge in the lounge, like a table in the case.
It was just all it was just a shit show.
And then once you move into your own place, so
you're never going to go back.
Speaker 4 (06:51):
Well, I hope this doesn't happen to you, guys, But
tried being in a relationship a marriage for instance, and
the like four of those no two well unless you count,
unless you count the current one as two. But it's
the same person, so it's fine, Like we broke it
and got back together.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
If you got married to the same woman twice.
Speaker 4 (07:11):
No, no, no, we didn't get married twice, but we
separatd and then we've come back.
Speaker 5 (07:15):
To get a bit of a Ross and Rachel situation.
Speaker 4 (07:18):
Look, yeah, similar to that, but after wife number one,
missus ruder number one, and we lived together because we
were a husband and wife.
Speaker 5 (07:25):
Would you say, your current wife is missus ruder number one?
Speaker 4 (07:29):
No, she's current missus ruder missus rudh No sorry, no, okay,
the number one, missus ruder first, missus ruder.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
She's top of the chart.
Speaker 4 (07:39):
She's number one, the current one, not the other one
x missus ruder. Anyway, we broke up and after that
I went flatting again.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
That was yeah.
Speaker 4 (07:48):
So that was late twenties, and it occurred to me
at the time and still does now looking back on it,
that the older you are when you are flatting flatting,
the weirder you are, because probably if you're more normal.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
You're in a relationship.
Speaker 4 (08:04):
But yeah, it was. It was so odd going back.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
How old were your flatmates?
Speaker 4 (08:10):
They must have been about thirty. There was two of them.
Speaker 5 (08:13):
There was Oh okay, what'd you say is the max
age for flatting?
Speaker 1 (08:17):
Well, I've heard of It's funny you mentioned the divorce thing,
because I've heard of dudes, you know, in their i
don't know, late forties, fifties, and then they get divorced
and then them and the mate it just like well,
fuctually moving together. We were talking at So I had
a wedding down tomorrow recently, and I caught up with
all my old flat mates from down there, and we
(08:38):
were sitting there going, fuck it, should we just move
in and flat again? Because you know, when you're flatting
in your early twenties, you're all broke and so you're
on the bones of your ass and it's like you're
just getting by, but you have such a blast. And
then he was just like, we all now have like
adult jobs with the exception to me, how good would
a flat be with like six seven of your best
(08:58):
mates and actual incomes coming in? Yeah? Six seven, Yeah,
I think it'd be. I mean, now our partners and
a lot of their kids would probably not be too
happy about that. But yeah, so how did that go
for you? Flooding?
Speaker 4 (09:16):
Yeah it was. It was no fun. I didn't think
I immediately looked for another relationship so I could move
in with a woman though.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
Yeah, that's right. You were saying anyone to do just.
Speaker 4 (09:26):
About anyone, And that's how yeah current came about.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
Should take a quick break, can come back. Yeah, I
don't think I could do that anymore. Jesus. Funny how
(09:51):
that happens, does anyone else's sense of time warped since COVID.
I felt like that was last week that we did that,
But that was six years ago. Yeah, you were saying
before because you should the Yeah, twenty nineteen. Yeah, it's
twenty twenty five.
Speaker 5 (10:03):
No, it started twenty twenty. It started in twenty twenty,
not twenty nineteen.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
Twenty twenty was COVID. There was no, there's nothing only
started at It started at the end of twenty nineteen. Yeah,
I know.
Speaker 4 (10:15):
It's it's called COVID nineteen.
Speaker 1 (10:16):
That's why it's called COVID nineteen. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (10:18):
I didn't go into lockdown to like April.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
No, we went no, no, no, no. Oh yeah, okay,
so maybe start of twenty twenty when we went into
lockdown because Maddie and I were still on the show.
We were we had like three months left on our
contract when we went into lockdown, which lasted three months,
and just at the end of lockdown, our our contracts expired.
(10:41):
And then all of a sudden, the company country opened
back up, but industry wide shutdown. No one's hiring, there's
no jobs, and so you just sat on the out
of the bones of your earth. But at that time,
maybe we'll talk about this with Madic tomorrow. Because it
was lockdown, we were coming in and doing the show.
We're actually doing breakfast at that time, Matt and Jerry
(11:03):
were away and so we would come in do the
breakfast show. No one else in the building, no one
else on the roads. The speed signs where they usually
say speed or crash, they just said stay safe, be kind.
It was terrifying. It was like zombie apocalypse shit. And
then we would come into this building, which is a
massive building and there was just no one in it.
But the best part, because we're in lockdown, you're not
(11:24):
allowed to see anyone unless you're essential. For whatever reason,
we were deemed essential. At the same time, the beer
company Corona, I'm more of an export altra guy, they
were having issues because this at the time, they didn't
really know how bad the pandemic was going to be.
All they knew was people would stopped buying their beer
(11:45):
because they associated it with the pandemic. So as a
marketing campaign and again on more of an export ultra guy,
more of a buntings guy, they they they shipped us
a pellet of coronas there's like, hey, could you talk
about us to blah blah blah, and I said, fuck,
no more of an expodoca. So me and Meddie would
(12:06):
come in here and we just had access to a
palet to pass that no one else had any access to,
and we were the only two people who at that
time were allowed to see anyone outside of their bubble.
So we'd come in here and smash the show out
and they just sit around and drink press all day
while no one else was around. And that was our
first lockdown experience. I gotta be honest. A lot of fun,
a lot of fun. There was some good, good podcast
(12:27):
came out of that.
Speaker 4 (12:29):
It was. It was such a weird time, man. I'm
just thinking back on it now because the place I worked,
Media Works, I don't mind saying it more of an
in me. Oh honey, now, insied.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
Me till I die. I reckon until yeah me, so
I'd die for the end of my contract.
Speaker 4 (12:47):
But Media Works at the time, because you know, all
businesses were struggling, and so they said, right, we're gonna
run this incentive. We want everybody in the company to
take a fifteen percent pay cup because otherwise the company's fucked.
So everyone it's voluntary but if you can take a
fifteen percent.
Speaker 5 (13:05):
Pay cut, I'm sorry, it's voluntary, it's.
Speaker 4 (13:07):
Voluntary, but if you can, it's always voluntary to take
a pay cut.
Speaker 1 (13:10):
And I was, you know what I mean, like you
could do it.
Speaker 4 (13:11):
At any point I was going to say no, but
then I thought about it, and I looked at other
people in the office, and I was like, fuck, if
that guy gets fired because I don't take a fifteen percent,
that's that's it.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
So I took it.
Speaker 4 (13:24):
But there were some people in the company that were
earning far more than I was. For instance, Jeremy Wells
was earning fucking heaps and he went to a lawyer
and he said, I'm not doing that. And also Jeremy Wells,
I just die, no, no, no, no, not that Jeremy Wells,
the guy that's basically did, but I'm Jeremy Wells basically did.
(13:49):
And now probably because I don't know if I'm allowed
to name those two people, so I'll say Jeremy Wells, yeah,
and then I'll cut and paste that back in there
and that will make sense.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
And so after everyone took the fifteen percent paycut, everyone
was sweet and they just it was all good and
then they gave you that fifteen percent back afterwards.
Speaker 4 (14:07):
That's actually what happened. We were like, oh it was yeah,
and I was because at first they just said, oh,
hey guys, the situation's not financially as bad as we thought.
We're going to put the money. We're going to put
you back up to a hundies and we were like sweet.
And then about a month later they said and in
mor good news, we're going to give you that fifteen percent.
We've managed to keep it and they back paid it.
(14:28):
Wow to everyone. And so everyone that said no, we're
not doing it, which just looked like assholes. It didn't
win it all anyway.
Speaker 1 (14:34):
Were you at school during that?
Speaker 6 (14:36):
I was.
Speaker 5 (14:37):
I I got to New Zealand the first of January
twenty twenty.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
Wow.
Speaker 5 (14:42):
Yeah, so I was in school for like four months
and then lockdown.
Speaker 4 (14:46):
We're about sweet at school, Christian.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
Uh what was school in lockdown?
Speaker 4 (14:50):
Like?
Speaker 1 (14:51):
Must have sucks? I was pretty chill, Hey, like, oh,
that's a good point, you got.
Speaker 5 (14:54):
No, No, I was just at home reading a B
yeah right and a bot.
Speaker 6 (15:00):
Not like.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
It's not like having you know, mortgage or kids or
anything like that. You didn't really have much now just
you weren't allowed out.
Speaker 5 (15:09):
And I lived in summer, if you know whether, and
I lived on the East Planard and I could just
walk over to the beach. So it was great.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
Can you surf?
Speaker 6 (15:19):
No, I can do the Spider Man pos on a
surfood and it's about how as far as I get.
Oh you can stand up now now Spider Man like
full on like Neil Oh right.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
Yeah, yeah, oh actually, yeah, that's a good point because
lockdown wouldn't have been nearly as bad for people without
any responsibility. What was lockdown like with kids?
Speaker 4 (15:36):
Sucked.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
It led to the break up of my marriage.
Speaker 5 (15:39):
But you guys got back together.
Speaker 4 (15:41):
Yeah, we did, but now it was a difficult time.
I remember at the start of that we had some
family overseas and they were like, oh, this really sucks.
And my wife was like, oh, come up, come come
back home. And they were like, how are you guys going,
my COVID come back And my wife was like, we're going,
all good, don't worry about us, you guys just come
back home. And then by the end of twenty twenty,
(16:02):
we were fucked. Yeah, we fucking hated it, do you know. Yeah,
my wife the reason my wife hated it the most
because she was with you, and a roundabout way you
it's because it's because I was deemed as an essential worker,
so she just had to stay at home with the
kids all day and be on these punishing zoom calls
and pretend to be a teacher to one of them.
(16:24):
And then I was like, oh, I'll see you in.
My life's pretty much the same, except I have zero traffic.
Speaker 1 (16:29):
I'm going back to work. Yeah. The funniest one for
me was, obviously my missus was a zoo keeper at
that time. Oh yeah, and everybody keeps asking her what
does a zookeeper do when it's worked from home, And
every time she would be like, no, we just divvy
up the animals and each of us to take one
of them home. So like maybe this week I've got
a rhino, next week I've got a merecat following. You know,
(16:52):
the tigers can be hard. People believe that every now
and then, right up until you're like, yeah, we put
a tiger. But when you'd be like, oh ye, so
if you had the space, you would take a rhino home? People, No, really,
fucking idiot. The hardest thing though, that happened there and
I don't know whether the zoo wants me sharing this,
but there was also floods around that time, and there's
(17:15):
been floods since, and the all hands on deck thing
at the zoo is, we can't let the alligator enclosure
flood because if first thing gets over the fence and
it's out there, but rhinos take such massive dumps that
they clog the drains, and so when the drains clogged,
then the water level starts rising in the alligator thing.
Then all of a sudden, you got alligators in central
(17:35):
pondsob and Jerry's backyard, and so they're like, all hands
on deck, come and shovel shed out of the trains
so that the alligators don't flood.
Speaker 5 (17:44):
Into the That's crazy. I Yeah, that's a bit of
anin situation, isn't it.
Speaker 1 (17:48):
Yeah. One of the craziest things about lockdown is because
there was no one on the road and so it
was really quiet. You could hear the monkeys and the
lion and the lions. Yeah, it's crazy, you know, and
traumatic thinking about Lockdown. Let's not think about it anymore,
all right, let's nott think on the head. We'll be
back tomorrow. Another episode of the mediam and I Show
tomorrow from six.
Speaker 5 (18:11):
She knows, she know
Madiem Media manaia am Man Madiem manaia manaia am Man
get A.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
It's Jerry here from the Headachy Breakfast. Just letting you
know that if you're listening to the podcast but didn't
know that we also do a live radio show, we do.
And if you're wondering how to find out what frequency
to listen to us in your area, just takes north
or South as an Island to three four eight three
and we'll let you know. And now let's get on
with the podcast.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
Welcoman to the podcast. No Jerry and no matter that
he has had to head off to work. What are
you guys laughing at?
Speaker 3 (01:00):
I'm laughing because someone what happened walked baby? And the
fifth then that came into my head was on Cheers
when they just go Norm and that was the and
I couldn't shake it. And you're trying to intro the
podcast and I'm just going, Norm.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
I don't get that reference. I'm imagining Zoe at all
of twenty one years old, doesn't get that either, Norm. No, man,
he had to bounce. He has an actual job, a
real job, but he'll be back in tomorrow morning. And
I think maybe we can, because we've got a lot
of texts coming through on three four eight three this
morning saying whatever happened to that show? I think we
(01:38):
can delve into the history of the of the show tomorrow.
Or maybe Medi doesn't want to talk about it, but.
Speaker 4 (01:43):
Yeah, he mentioned PTSD a few times this morning.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
Oh look, and you know people always ask us what
happens what the songs are playing? What happened today was
he was killed in the fetal position, crying in the
corner of the studio. But you know, we picked them up,
dusted them off a couple of times, and got him
back in. I've just become away this morning that I
paid no attention to zod Or because you were looking
for a flat, you men, and you found one.
Speaker 5 (02:05):
Oh god, it's such a hassle.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
Hey, it's such a fuck around.
Speaker 5 (02:09):
It's so awful.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
And are there a lot of people competing for the
same flats at the moment.
Speaker 6 (02:14):
Yeah, it's the most awkward thing when you go to
a flat viewing and you think it's just going to
be you in the relton and there's like fifty other
people there and they're all it's all like solo people,
but they're all a flat mate. So they're all videoing
around the house, walking through videoing the flat and you're
like in the video like piece like here, so hey,
and so it has the bathroom.
Speaker 5 (02:35):
Oh god, I don't even dude.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
We could put like grandstand couches in here and then
we could get all the boys around and watch the football.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (02:43):
When they talk like they already have the place, you
don't know who's going to get the places us here?
Speaker 1 (02:48):
And so who? How many did you look at it?
First of all?
Speaker 3 (02:50):
Oh?
Speaker 5 (02:51):
Way, too many?
Speaker 1 (02:51):
Way way?
Speaker 6 (02:53):
And I looked at some shockers, like you know when
they say it's three bedrooms but it ends up just
being two bedrooms and a study, which is just like
a close it really, so you can't get three people
in there, it's just impossible.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
And how many people were you looking for?
Speaker 6 (03:07):
Well, we were looking at a three bedroom with my
other flat mates, or just a one bedroom with just
me and my long suffering partner.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
I will say, once you go to having your own place,
you will never have flatmates again.
Speaker 6 (03:18):
See this is why we were his attempt, just moving
in just the two of us. Yeah, yeah, because obviously
that Yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
And you guys have been on the rocks lately. I
think that once you lately while when member must has
moved into our first flat together with no flat. But
we went from having eight people in our flat we
had four couples to our own place or couples. Yeah,
who was that? It was in Seattle to west Auckland.
(03:48):
It was a massive house and to be fair, we
had it quite good for quite a while. It was
just two couples for a while.
Speaker 6 (03:54):
It's also quite cheap usually when you do the couples
and it's multiple rooms.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
Yeah, but then try because it we didn't do like
a flat dinner situation, so try four different couples trying
to cook dinner at the same time. There's a lot
of takeaways going on. That gets expensive. And it was like, yeah,
I don't know, it was a weird situation. But then
once you go to your own place, you will never
go back to flating again. Yeah, it's nothing in your
(04:19):
house is there by mistat. Everything in there is something
you bought, you know what I mean, Like when you
go back into your flat and you're like, fuck, that
thing's ugly over there, but we're going to keep it
because it's you know, Sarah's thing or cups and pots
and pans.
Speaker 5 (04:32):
Yeah, this is very true.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
No more group chats, oh the group chats man, No
more who left the blah blah blah, who did the
dishes wrong? Whatever, None of that kind of shit. I
used to have a flat mate and Timoru, who I
was down in the basically the basement, and he was
directly above me, and whenever he got out of the shower,
I'll say his name, I don't think of mine, Josh.
(04:57):
Whenever Josh got out of the shower, he would go
into rooms direct the above mine and he would blast
like scream o music. This is like nine o'clock at night,
ten o'clock at night, and he's just blearing the screamo music.
And so one night I was just like, I've had
a fucking guard, so I'm going to head up Josh
and I walk into the rooms just continue fucking music
that and he goes, my music speaks to me the
(05:18):
way your music speaks to you. I was like, can
it speak to you a little bit quieter and earlier
in the day. Exactly who wants to listen to screamators
before they go to sleep? But apparently that's what put
him to sleep. That kind of shit that all that
all goes out the window once you get your own place.
Speaker 6 (05:36):
Yeah, we've locked in a place for just the two
of us, so I have yes, Oh, congratulations, very excited
about that because it just it's it takes so long
to find a good place. And we were only we're
only leaving our current flat because our landlord decided to
body sell the place and we thought I was just
gonna get brought by investors and they can just stay
there as renters, and they're like, now we want it
for ourselves.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
We had one of those situations as well. We oh
it is because you're like, you pretty set up and
then they're like, you're going to get out in six weeks.
Speaker 5 (06:03):
It's six weeks.
Speaker 6 (06:03):
That's the thing as well, Like sometimes if you're moving
out of a flat, you still you just find someone
else to fit into your room, but if they give
you a deadline, it's and then sometimes you have to
pay the double rent.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
We we did a spike move. The last time that
happened to us. We were like, oh, you've got six
weeks to get out, and then I was like, well,
we're leaving tomorrow, and we just moved into a flat
like a block away shitolf flat. We were only supposed
to be there for about three months, but we ended
up being there for a year.
Speaker 5 (06:29):
While we also because it was a contract.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
No, it was because we had bought a new built
house before it had finished, and it kept getting delayed,
kept getting delayed, and in the meantime we were buying
stuff for the new house, but it had to sit
in the apartment that we rented, so we had like
a fridge in the lounge, like a table in the case.
It was just all it was just a shit show.
And then once you move into your own place, so
you're never going to go back.
Speaker 4 (06:51):
Well, I hope this doesn't happen to you, guys, But
tried being in a relationship a marriage for instance, and
the like four of those no two well unless you count,
unless you count the current one as two. But it's
the same person, so it's fine, Like we broke it
and got back together.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
If you got married to the same woman twice.
Speaker 4 (07:11):
No, no, no, we didn't get married twice, but we
separatd and then we've come back.
Speaker 5 (07:15):
To get a bit of a Ross and Rachel situation.
Speaker 4 (07:18):
Look, yeah, similar to that, but after wife number one,
missus ruder number one, and we lived together because we
were a husband and wife.
Speaker 5 (07:25):
Would you say, your current wife is missus ruder number one?
Speaker 4 (07:29):
No, she's current missus ruder missus rudh No sorry, no, okay,
the number one, missus ruder first, missus ruder.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
She's top of the chart.
Speaker 4 (07:39):
She's number one, the current one, not the other one
x missus ruder. Anyway, we broke up and after that
I went flatting again.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
That was yeah.
Speaker 4 (07:48):
So that was late twenties, and it occurred to me
at the time and still does now looking back on it,
that the older you are when you are flatting flatting,
the weirder you are, because probably if you're more normal.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
You're in a relationship.
Speaker 4 (08:04):
But yeah, it was. It was so odd going back.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
How old were your flatmates?
Speaker 4 (08:10):
They must have been about thirty. There was two of them.
Speaker 5 (08:13):
There was Oh okay, what'd you say is the max
age for flatting?
Speaker 1 (08:17):
Well, I've heard of It's funny you mentioned the divorce thing,
because I've heard of dudes, you know, in their i
don't know, late forties, fifties, and then they get divorced
and then them and the mate it just like well,
fuctually moving together. We were talking at So I had
a wedding down tomorrow recently, and I caught up with
all my old flat mates from down there, and we
(08:38):
were sitting there going, fuck it, should we just move
in and flat again? Because you know, when you're flatting
in your early twenties, you're all broke and so you're
on the bones of your ass and it's like you're
just getting by, but you have such a blast. And
then he was just like, we all now have like
adult jobs with the exception to me, how good would
a flat be with like six seven of your best
(08:58):
mates and actual incomes coming in? Yeah? Six seven, Yeah,
I think it'd be. I mean, now our partners and
a lot of their kids would probably not be too
happy about that. But yeah, so how did that go
for you? Flooding?
Speaker 4 (09:16):
Yeah it was. It was no fun. I didn't think
I immediately looked for another relationship so I could move
in with a woman though.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
Yeah, that's right. You were saying anyone to do just.
Speaker 4 (09:26):
About anyone, And that's how yeah current came about.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
Should take a quick break, can come back. Yeah, I
don't think I could do that anymore. Jesus. Funny how
(09:51):
that happens, does anyone else's sense of time warped since COVID.
I felt like that was last week that we did that,
But that was six years ago. Yeah, you were saying
before because you should the Yeah, twenty nineteen. Yeah, it's
twenty twenty five.
Speaker 5 (10:03):
No, it started twenty twenty. It started in twenty twenty,
not twenty nineteen.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
Twenty twenty was COVID. There was no, there's nothing only
started at It started at the end of twenty nineteen. Yeah,
I know.
Speaker 4 (10:15):
It's it's called COVID nineteen.
Speaker 1 (10:16):
That's why it's called COVID nineteen. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (10:18):
I didn't go into lockdown to like April.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
No, we went no, no, no, no. Oh yeah, okay,
so maybe start of twenty twenty when we went into
lockdown because Maddie and I were still on the show.
We were we had like three months left on our
contract when we went into lockdown, which lasted three months,
and just at the end of lockdown, our our contracts expired.
(10:41):
And then all of a sudden, the company country opened
back up, but industry wide shutdown. No one's hiring, there's
no jobs, and so you just sat on the out
of the bones of your earth. But at that time,
maybe we'll talk about this with Madic tomorrow. Because it
was lockdown, we were coming in and doing the show.
We're actually doing breakfast at that time, Matt and Jerry
(11:03):
were away and so we would come in do the
breakfast show. No one else in the building, no one
else on the roads. The speed signs where they usually
say speed or crash, they just said stay safe, be kind.
It was terrifying. It was like zombie apocalypse shit. And
then we would come into this building, which is a
massive building and there was just no one in it.
But the best part, because we're in lockdown, you're not
(11:24):
allowed to see anyone unless you're essential. For whatever reason,
we were deemed essential. At the same time, the beer
company Corona, I'm more of an export altra guy, they
were having issues because this at the time, they didn't
really know how bad the pandemic was going to be.
All they knew was people would stopped buying their beer
(11:45):
because they associated it with the pandemic. So as a
marketing campaign and again on more of an export ultra guy,
more of a buntings guy, they they they shipped us
a pellet of coronas there's like, hey, could you talk
about us to blah blah blah, and I said, fuck,
no more of an expodoca. So me and Meddie would
(12:06):
come in here and we just had access to a
palet to pass that no one else had any access to,
and we were the only two people who at that
time were allowed to see anyone outside of their bubble.
So we'd come in here and smash the show out
and they just sit around and drink press all day
while no one else was around. And that was our
first lockdown experience. I gotta be honest. A lot of fun,
a lot of fun. There was some good, good podcast
(12:27):
came out of that.
Speaker 4 (12:29):
It was. It was such a weird time, man. I'm
just thinking back on it now because the place I worked,
Media Works, I don't mind saying it more of an
in me. Oh honey, now, insied.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
Me till I die. I reckon until yeah me, so
I'd die for the end of my contract.
Speaker 4 (12:47):
But Media Works at the time, because you know, all
businesses were struggling, and so they said, right, we're gonna
run this incentive. We want everybody in the company to
take a fifteen percent pay cup because otherwise the company's fucked.
So everyone it's voluntary but if you can take a
fifteen percent.
Speaker 5 (13:05):
Pay cut, I'm sorry, it's voluntary, it's.
Speaker 4 (13:07):
Voluntary, but if you can, it's always voluntary to take
a pay cut.
Speaker 1 (13:10):
And I was, you know what I mean, like you
could do it.
Speaker 4 (13:11):
At any point I was going to say no, but
then I thought about it, and I looked at other
people in the office, and I was like, fuck, if
that guy gets fired because I don't take a fifteen percent,
that's that's it.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
So I took it.
Speaker 4 (13:24):
But there were some people in the company that were
earning far more than I was. For instance, Jeremy Wells
was earning fucking heaps and he went to a lawyer
and he said, I'm not doing that. And also Jeremy Wells,
I just die, no, no, no, no, not that Jeremy Wells,
the guy that's basically did, but I'm Jeremy Wells basically did.
(13:49):
And now probably because I don't know if I'm allowed
to name those two people, so I'll say Jeremy Wells, yeah,
and then I'll cut and paste that back in there
and that will make sense.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
And so after everyone took the fifteen percent paycut, everyone
was sweet and they just it was all good and
then they gave you that fifteen percent back afterwards.
Speaker 4 (14:07):
That's actually what happened. We were like, oh it was yeah,
and I was because at first they just said, oh,
hey guys, the situation's not financially as bad as we thought.
We're going to put the money. We're going to put
you back up to a hundies and we were like sweet.
And then about a month later they said and in
mor good news, we're going to give you that fifteen percent.
We've managed to keep it and they back paid it.
(14:28):
Wow to everyone. And so everyone that said no, we're
not doing it, which just looked like assholes. It didn't
win it all anyway.
Speaker 1 (14:34):
Were you at school during that?
Speaker 6 (14:36):
I was.
Speaker 5 (14:37):
I I got to New Zealand the first of January
twenty twenty.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
Wow.
Speaker 5 (14:42):
Yeah, so I was in school for like four months
and then lockdown.
Speaker 4 (14:46):
We're about sweet at school, Christian.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
Uh what was school in lockdown?
Speaker 4 (14:50):
Like?
Speaker 1 (14:51):
Must have sucks? I was pretty chill, Hey, like, oh,
that's a good point, you got.
Speaker 5 (14:54):
No, No, I was just at home reading a B
yeah right and a bot.
Speaker 6 (15:00):
Not like.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
It's not like having you know, mortgage or kids or
anything like that. You didn't really have much now just
you weren't allowed out.
Speaker 5 (15:09):
And I lived in summer, if you know whether, and
I lived on the East Planard and I could just
walk over to the beach. So it was great.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
Can you surf?
Speaker 6 (15:19):
No, I can do the Spider Man pos on a
surfood and it's about how as far as I get.
Oh you can stand up now now Spider Man like
full on like Neil Oh right.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
Yeah, yeah, oh actually, yeah, that's a good point because
lockdown wouldn't have been nearly as bad for people without
any responsibility. What was lockdown like with kids?
Speaker 4 (15:36):
Sucked.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
It led to the break up of my marriage.
Speaker 5 (15:39):
But you guys got back together.
Speaker 4 (15:41):
Yeah, we did, but now it was a difficult time.
I remember at the start of that we had some
family overseas and they were like, oh, this really sucks.
And my wife was like, oh, come up, come come
back home. And they were like, how are you guys going,
my COVID come back And my wife was like, we're going,
all good, don't worry about us, you guys just come
back home. And then by the end of twenty twenty,
(16:02):
we were fucked. Yeah, we fucking hated it, do you know. Yeah,
my wife the reason my wife hated it the most
because she was with you, and a roundabout way you
it's because it's because I was deemed as an essential worker,
so she just had to stay at home with the
kids all day and be on these punishing zoom calls
and pretend to be a teacher to one of them.
(16:24):
And then I was like, oh, I'll see you in.
My life's pretty much the same, except I have zero traffic.
Speaker 1 (16:29):
I'm going back to work. Yeah. The funniest one for
me was, obviously my missus was a zoo keeper at
that time. Oh yeah, and everybody keeps asking her what
does a zookeeper do when it's worked from home, And
every time she would be like, no, we just divvy
up the animals and each of us to take one
of them home. So like maybe this week I've got
a rhino, next week I've got a merecat following. You know,
(16:52):
the tigers can be hard. People believe that every now
and then, right up until you're like, yeah, we put
a tiger. But when you'd be like, oh ye, so
if you had the space, you would take a rhino home? People, No, really,
fucking idiot. The hardest thing though, that happened there and
I don't know whether the zoo wants me sharing this,
but there was also floods around that time, and there's
(17:15):
been floods since, and the all hands on deck thing
at the zoo is, we can't let the alligator enclosure
flood because if first thing gets over the fence and
it's out there, but rhinos take such massive dumps that
they clog the drains, and so when the drains clogged,
then the water level starts rising in the alligator thing.
Then all of a sudden, you got alligators in central
(17:35):
pondsob and Jerry's backyard, and so they're like, all hands
on deck, come and shovel shed out of the trains
so that the alligators don't flood.
Speaker 5 (17:44):
Into the That's crazy. I Yeah, that's a bit of
anin situation, isn't it.
Speaker 1 (17:48):
Yeah. One of the craziest things about lockdown is because
there was no one on the road and so it
was really quiet. You could hear the monkeys and the
lion and the lions. Yeah, it's crazy, you know, and
traumatic thinking about Lockdown. Let's not think about it anymore,
all right, let's nott think on the head. We'll be
back tomorrow. Another episode of the mediam and I Show
tomorrow from six.
Speaker 5 (18:11):
She knows, she know
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