October 1, 2025 • 28 mins
So he only came in for the radio show, but Guy had so many questions about Waimate that he stayed around to chat about the South Canterbury town with our very own Manaia Stewart.
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Get a It's Jerry here from the Hidachey Breakfast, just
letting you know that if you're listening to the podcast
but didn't know that we also do a live radio show,
we do. And if you're wondering how to find out
what frequency to listen to us in your area, just
text North or South as an island to three four
eight three and we'll let your note and now let's
get on with the podcast. Guy Williams joins us on
(00:36):
the podcast today Thursday, the second of October twenty twenty five.
Thanks for coming in, Guy, I appreciate you. Actually that
little note at the beginning there I wouldn't have applied
to somewhere that you have recently made a television series
about Whymarty because they don't get Radiohadackie. So if you
text South, if you're living in Whymarty and you tex
South to three four eight three, it will say.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
Nothing christ Church Dunedin yeah, and otherwise no like although
if you're in Timorrow and you're up at the top
of Old North Ride, there is a car park there
where you can't catch the christ Church frequency, So you
know if you're in If you're in why media and
you want to listen to the show live, just drive
on up to tim Roads at the back of Old
North Road. There here'd be away.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
Welcome to the podcast, guy Williams.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
I am a white man. That's a bold opening. I
had to start somewhere, and I was like, I really
drew the audience in with that one Maniah your pronunciation,
and I say, this is a white man speaking to
a man who has beautiful tina and I assume, I
assume your Mali. I should have guessed the name Manyah,
(01:42):
your pronunciation of timidoo and one. And I realized how
it cringe. This is a white man correcting a MAULDI.
Dude on this.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
Sorry, guy, you tell me how to speak. Please.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
I'm the worst person in New Zealand. I realized that
I'm a human piece of shit. But I gotta go.
It's even greating me now. And I say that as
someone who six months ago before I went to wine Monty.
We're saying why Maddi and Tim Timoru as well.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
Yes, but what did you find when you were there?
How did they say.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
They said it? Timaru and Wanaddi.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
Yeah, exactly, and and I'm from there, so I think
we talked about it. Briefly off here. But part of
it is it's a it's like a colloquial nickname is
part of it because the full name is actually ti
which means you pulled that out, yeah, and timorrow is
t Tihiro Mudu. And these are parts of stories from
(02:32):
around the region, but they've all been shortened because look,
let's be honest, predominantly a white part of the country
these days, even so far as Kourou, which is just
up the road from waymnty Uh. It was originally to Kohudo,
but everyone called it to Kahua, and then all of
a sudden, now on the sign itself as that actually says.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
Well even the province, the very province, well not so
much because of South Canterbury whymty, but Otago Otago will
talk coup is that was that was the yeah, And
when they just mean call Targo, yeah, yeah, there it is.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
You know the kill Mogg, which is the big hell
just north of Dunedin. The bay down there was called
kitty mook call Bay because it was to do with
the type of tattoo that they gave to people around there,
and so it was originally kittimokle that got bastardized down
to kill Mogg, and there's a lot of these names
all up and down the country.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
That's part of it. That's part of why I call
it way medic.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
The other part is when you grow up there and
it is the town with the fewest people of Maori
descenter it was when I grew up there. Yeah, there's
been a few more Sinse, but good breeders, good, great breads,
good breeds good in the sack. There has never been
a Mauri that's ever been bad. I stand by that,
and so now there's way more malory people down there.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
There's ever been a Maori that's ever been bad in
the set. It's remarkable gay you anybody has any how
many how much experience have you got in this room
of people that have made love to people of Maori descent. Well,
I've got to be honest, I'm the only Maori I've
made love and well because of what was happening otherwise
(04:06):
it is your brothers and sisters. So yeah, complicated.
Speaker 3 (04:09):
I've never thought of the racial ethnicity of people I've
made love to before, so I'd have to break that down.
But I don't know if I've ever.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
Like you've never considered the racial ethnicity of the people
you've made love to.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
No, I've never I've never categorized. Don't have a spreadsheet
at home, Jeremy.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
That's all Jerry. Thanks about broken.
Speaker 3 (04:27):
Breaking down by absolutely.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
Don't you have a spreadsheet? Jerry, keep a spreadsheet anymore.
But it's all digital these days.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
It's all online in these days. What did you what
did you find from being down there for? Because you
were there for like six weeks.
Speaker 3 (04:41):
I was there for a yeah, for for a long
time my life. I loved it. My crew hated it.
But I just love small town New zeal I know
Jerry has the same effect, like small town New Zealand
is the best place in the world.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
Well, it's just I feel like there's way less judgment
down there. You don't feel like anyone's ever I mean
around I being gay yeah, or moldy yeah, or riding
a bike yeah, which is pretty gay.
Speaker 3 (05:07):
Yeah, to ride a bike, having a well, I mean
you just be judged. I mean I personally, even in Auckland,
I ride my bike around. I'm a bit of a
loser and a lot of people judged before it. Just
the other day I got like a dude like screaming
at me. I've done nothing wrong. Maybe it was a
bit cheeky with my like merging and a guy screamed
(05:28):
at me and then he immediately calmed down when he
recognized that he recognized me, and he said, hey, guy,
can you not afford a car? And it's like that's
like kind of like everyday in New Zealand mentality towards
bikes as average. I was just I was just extrapolating
that probably yeah it's cold.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
And in winter, Yeah, it's cold there in summer.
Speaker 3 (05:49):
That's why you ride a bike to That was a
great line. It's called it was riding a bike is
what warms you up?
Speaker 1 (05:56):
Did you notice that?
Speaker 3 (05:58):
So?
Speaker 1 (05:58):
How many people reck?
Speaker 2 (05:59):
I mean, first off, you're wearing a suit on the
main streets, so people are like, what's this guy? I
imagine there's a pretty sizable camera crew and sound guy
that are with you. So, but did people recognize you
and know who you were when you were down there?
Speaker 3 (06:11):
I was about fifty fifty yeah, yeah, which is which
is an interesting one. But it's nice also for pill
to not because pell be afraid of me and it's
like people, yeah, I shouldn't be afraid, like the people
who look bad on my show janieraly Peel, who are dickheads,
and like most people I think look awesome. You know,
they might say a few things that are a bit off,
but generally like the people who look bad, like people
(06:33):
who are literally saying the N word, you know, like
literal pieces of shit. Ah well, I mean, let's we
can get to that another. I interviewed some of your
friends and yeah, it went away.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
But so because I remember when I was a kid,
because so little happens there that Sean Fitzpatrick once came
and filmed an ad at the Wymti Hotel. Wow, And yeah,
they had to pull all the blinds because everyone was
at the windows looking at.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
People at the Was it the pink first dodge? It wasn't. No,
you could for the game. He couldn't have brought that
to Why mate. I was thinking, why would you bring
that that to Why? Nah?
Speaker 2 (07:04):
But I just remember that bringing the whole town to
its knees and everyone talking about it for for months afterwards.
Sean Fitzpatrick was here. You remember when Sean Fitzpatrick came
down here, and I don't think anyone famous has been
there since. So that's why I thought when you were
down there, they would have been like, ah, this is amazing.
Speaker 3 (07:19):
Oh who knows. But Kaylee Bowe the legendary country. Were
you friends with her growing up or similar age? She's
killing her?
Speaker 2 (07:26):
Yeah, she's a couple of I probaly shouldn't say this
something Mic probably a couple of years older than me.
I got kicked out of her twenty first by someone
because we technically didn't get invited. I think we must
have been like sixteen seventeen something like that. Meno, mate
pete and we went in there and someone's like, who
the hell invited you?
Speaker 1 (07:41):
Guys? Get out? Or twenty first or interesting in towns
the size of why might you? Because I mean, who
do you not invite? Well, that's that's not to be
invited to someone.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
Well, but so that's actually it's even more brutal than that.
You don't send invites out. People just hear oh there's
a twenty first going on down in the pipe band
hall over Kaylee Bell's house or whatever, and so everyone
just goes. You don't really get invited because there's only
X amount of people there. So to get kicked out
of a party that had no invites even worse not
having brutal but yeah, no, so Kaylie Bell Norman Kirk
(08:14):
would be the two big things that have ever come
out of one and Kyle.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
Boy has been stealing Norman Kirk as well. To be honest,
there's a lot of there's a better crossover going on
with Wymut and Kyapoy because he was the mirror of Kayapor.
He was born in Wymut, he wasn't he, but then
moved to Kylepoy and forever since then Kyaport. Everything about
k K is Norman Kirklis Norman Bloody is not even
from the big Normals Big norm Matt.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
But he is the last Prime minister in New Zealand
to die in office, which is gangster. He had a
heart attack and they were like you should probably knock
the prime minister thing on that. He's like fuck that
on going back.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
And then he then he died at his disc normal
and the last prime minister to have a proper good
song written about it. A crack that's that big norm
songs that's got something.
Speaker 3 (08:55):
To people to people. Do your listeners even know who
we're talking about? Yeah? Should I think so?
Speaker 1 (09:00):
We've talked about Norman Kirka. But I talk about all
the time. Everyone knows big norm.
Speaker 3 (09:05):
Everyone knows big Norm. No, I would say, Jeremy, your a.
You have unbelievable knowledge of small town New Zealand. And
be you're older now, you're still good. I don't really
break your heart. You're still gorgeous.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
I'm a lot older, there's still beautiful.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
But like but I I I appreciate as well. But
even I'm old. Right, last week, it's someone I worked
with the other day and she didn't know who, she
didn't know about the fresh Prince of Belier. You know,
just stuff like that, and you're like, oh for me.
In New Zealand television, that show has been on every
year for the last forty years.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
I reckon. We're also at an interesting time culture wise,
where people now can grow up with very very siloed,
you know, experiences of life, whereas when Fractures we were
growing up, everything was broadcast. I saw was something that
you saw, something everyone experienced at the same time. There
was a great thing. To be honest, I'm I'll be
(09:54):
interested to see how that works out, how it's out
for this generation later on when they took I remember
when I was on my phone by myself six hours
a day. Yeah, and I went down a rabbit hole
of phishing videos. Yeah. You know it's not going to
be a fun conversation.
Speaker 3 (10:09):
Yeah. I genuinely think that's one of the things that
has affected rugby and cricket popularity in New Zealand, because
you know, it's not just like the main channel just goes.
You have to watch cricket against your will, whether you
want it or not, and you become a lifelong fan to.
Speaker 1 (10:22):
Go seek it out.
Speaker 3 (10:23):
And it's easier to find NBA or n f OL
because there's way more illegal streams of that than there
is illegal streams of Super Rugby or whatever. And that
explains why no one goes to Super Rugby anymore.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
And it's a great product. Can we say that it's
a great product. NBA is a great product.
Speaker 3 (10:39):
Yeah, I think even Super Rugby is a great part.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
It's not a great product, is that too?
Speaker 4 (10:44):
I just need to take quick break. We'll be right there.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
A man of social credit, he's got social credit. He
wasn't a member of the Social Credit Party, Let's be
clear about that. That was Gary Napp and Bruce Beetham,
of course.
Speaker 3 (11:14):
But now you've even Okay, I studied political science at university.
I'm almost forty years old, and you have even left
me behind with your knowledge of small town music.
Speaker 1 (11:22):
Can't You don't know Gary Napp and Bruce Beetham.
Speaker 3 (11:25):
Oh good forget Gary Knapp.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
It's a combination of Jerry having been in broadcasting for
the thick end of thirty years. He's constantly googling these
kind of things. And I suspect this mom took Tyler
old when she was pregnant.
Speaker 3 (11:38):
Yeah, that song, I can't tell. I'll ask you this
to Jerry. Do you think that song is celebrating Big
Norm or Mockingham?
Speaker 1 (11:45):
I interviewed the guys who write the song actually and
Great New Zealanders, and they know they love Big Norm.
It was it was a tribute to Big Norm, because.
Speaker 3 (11:55):
It sounds when you listen to it now, it sounds
like they're Mockingham. Kind.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
Yeah, it was definitely. It was definitely a celebration.
Speaker 3 (12:03):
Literally like take my money, take my wife. I want
to give bg Norm for my life. It's like literally
like I want to give everything to him. It talks
about that he's the heir of the commune.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
Like it sounds like no, that was I think Commune
in nineteen seventy one or whenever that was written. That
was a good thing here.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
Ah, yeah, they hadn't been Waco and stuff, So I
think the only other.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
Ones that there was The Ballad of Robbie Muldoon was
another one that was that was I think that was
that was negative interesting. Actually did anyone see that thing
I sent through? Sir Robert Muldone was a huge champion
of TWiki to Mali, yeah, which I was like flab
and then he did a whole thing in Todal Maori.
Speaker 3 (12:43):
At the end of.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
It, I was like, Wow, killed bloody nineteen eighty three
or something that.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
Who would have bloody thought Norm Kirk as well, big
champion of Maori rights back in the day.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
Who would have thought but that?
Speaker 3 (12:54):
But that shouldn't be the way we perceive it, right.
Speaker 1 (12:56):
I shouldn't be shocking that they were no big.
Speaker 3 (12:58):
Because because the issue is now we've got this fricking
American style that has seeped into New Zealand where and
it's like I interview a guy on the show where
I mean, I'd be honest with you, he has views,
he's an old man, he's an eighty year old white
man in one month. E like his his racial views
aren't always great outdated, but he was totally fluent in today.
And I just think it absolutely shook me for a
(13:20):
man who was like kind of at one moment like
nailing his chat about the water, the next moment peddling
like conspiracy theories about Justin da Arderne, and then he
just was fluent and molded. I was like, because back
in the day, you're allowed to be You're allowed to
pick and choose your politics from many places, whereas now
it's like if you're left, you're all this, and if
you're right, you're all this.
Speaker 1 (13:38):
You know what. That's a great point, but the compartmentalization
of politics and political views is incredibly problematic. And to
criticize someone over here and then you lump all of
this other stuff on them for a critique from something
else that's right massively, or.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
That if you think one thing, then you have to
think all of the things that described to that same
political view. And it's annoying because it's like, I want
to voke green, but I'm also very racist.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
So where do I go? You know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (14:06):
I can't This is this.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
Is a little bit of audio of Sir Muldoon here
talking about the virtues of Maori language week the Prime Minister,
the Right Honorable Robert Muldoon.
Speaker 3 (14:19):
Man Nowaka or the Mootooto.
Speaker 1 (14:30):
That's pretty good. I feel pleasure. I'll tell you the way.
Speaker 3 (14:35):
It's quite co mato.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
The kind of waists sitting there. Yeah it was, yeah, yeah,
I haven't.
Speaker 3 (14:44):
It's genuinely a beautiful Would you find that this a
piece of art?
Speaker 1 (14:48):
I got that for some reason that oddly came through
to my algorithm on on Instagram. Yeah, it just shocked
me a do you?
Speaker 3 (14:56):
I mean, you need to cancel your twelve shows you
make at the moment, and you need to make a
New Zealand history show that is also fun. You know,
you know I can see it lighting up in your eye.
I can sit down deep downside. You have the money,
you have the ability to do this.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
Well. I'd like you to go to the archive, thanks
very much, Guy Williams and have a look at the
Unauthorised History of New Zealand the five seasons in there.
Speaker 3 (15:16):
I watched it show and I was a kid, and
most of that was not real. All of that was
not real. Nos I googled it. There was not New
Zealand's first indigenous porno. That wasn't a thing.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
No, that was not true. That was not true. But
I think you have five seventy five percent is real
and bang on that number seventy percent not real. Was
not really a bird? That's that was the one wing bird.
Speaker 3 (15:40):
That was not because I because I because I genuinely
love As a comedy fan, I genuinely love that show.
But it did annoy me because when it came out,
I did think it was going to be a bit
more it was gonna be a bit more faction than
it was, and I was a little bit disappointed.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
There's there's facts in there also. Can I also say
that's actually a Jason? Can I also say this, I'm
going to throw a bombshow on the podcast It's going
to Shape People. As a comedy historian, some of the
jokes on that show were potentially lifted or stolen on
that show on the anthrois History of New Zealand.
Speaker 3 (16:08):
Yes scandal from a very well known British comedian called
Alan Partridge. Specifically the references to the all whites New
Zealand football team. You're commentating about a goal being scored,
and then another goal being scored when the person kicks
in another goal. It's like basically very very very similar
to an Alan Partridge routine.
Speaker 1 (16:29):
Possibly that's possibly true. I know who wrote that, and
and that might that might be a fair criticism, that
might be.
Speaker 3 (16:36):
But what you had the person who wrote it you
and you watched Alan Partridge the night before.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
I didn't write that, but I know exactly who did
and and what actually happened in those days was that
there was no YouTube, there was no Google didn't know
and so no you got tapes of things. So we
used to get sent tapes back in the day from
people who lived in England, butarticularly around Chris Morris stuff
(17:01):
the Brass Eye day to day, which was all amazing stuff.
Speaker 3 (17:04):
That's a deep cut. I don't think many listeners in
New Zealand would know Chris Morris or Brass Eye.
Speaker 1 (17:09):
When you watch Chris Morris and then you watch Eating
Media Lunch, you'll see that there's a very it's very
derivative thought of that.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
The whole Yeah, so about the woman from the woman's
rights ack this' or whatever andthing. It's like if someone
if a man was coming at you would you beat
him off? And she's like, yes, it's if two men
were coming out, how many how many men would you
be well beat all of them off?
Speaker 1 (17:30):
If I Yeah, it was incredibly derivative because we've seen
the Brass Eye day to day and once you've seen
Brass Eye, especially in those days it wasn't on New
Zealand television, and then you can't unsee it because it
was a work of pure genius. It was a work
of pure gen It still stands up.
Speaker 5 (17:48):
Into space on episode the British Isles of the Pedophiles,
the Pedophilio, the pedofili is special and the if people
haven't her listeners haven't seen brass or day to day,
particularly Brass Eye.
Speaker 1 (18:01):
It's all on YouTube.
Speaker 3 (18:01):
Do you know. I'm embarrassed I haven't actually seen that.
I need to see that.
Speaker 1 (18:05):
And it's ridiculously good and the graphics are still amazing.
That's the crazy thing. And the fact that they did
specials on crime, sex and and everything they did, and
the pedophile that was disguised as a school, the footage
that they've got of the pedophile that was disguised as
a school, and the fact that they got genuine questions
asked in parliament about cake, which was a made up
(18:25):
drug which they made up?
Speaker 3 (18:27):
Do they make up cake?
Speaker 1 (18:28):
They made up cake?
Speaker 3 (18:29):
Because I think about cake. There's been a few of those.
Speaker 1 (18:32):
Cake and they were saying cake, and he got celebrities
to say cake, it's a made up drug because it
was like made up of you know, chemicals. Yeah, but
they were and people were actually they asked questions in
British Parliament, why is this not illegal? This drug called cake?
Speaker 3 (18:46):
That's happened a few times. I remember. I think when
I was a kid. Jinkam was another made up drug.
I think they tripped adults into thinking the kids were
sitting into coke bottles and then using the fermented fumes
to huff that to get high.
Speaker 1 (18:57):
Well, you know that thing that you were talking about
with anil Mana that.
Speaker 3 (19:01):
I was trying to say the name in case, but
you just don't write it there.
Speaker 1 (19:06):
That was the first ever bicultural fuck fleck that we
are made up now? That got asked in parliament by
Wayne Mapp, who was the Minister for Political Correctness. The
National Party, who were in opposition in those days, had
had put forward as there guy to stop political corretness.
Because political was going out of control of New Zealand
because labor and power and and so he tabled that
(19:29):
in partment he asked the question, he goes, have you
seen this documentary which has been given public money by
New Zealand there to make it's a it's it's a
Maori pawn that's been made and it's received three million
dollars And so he we we tricked him. Yeah, think
that was a real thing.
Speaker 3 (19:48):
There's there's genuinely I could see.
Speaker 1 (19:49):
People way easier in those days because there's no you
couldn't google anything. Yeah, yeah, yeah, and you saw something
you just thought, oh, that must be real.
Speaker 3 (19:57):
I can't believe you guys always seem so unimpressed on
the show. But I can't believe if you guys are
more impressed by the like the heat that I was
bringing to the podcast in terms of like accusing Jerry
on plagiars.
Speaker 1 (20:06):
Yeah, you're holding his feetistic.
Speaker 3 (20:09):
Worse comedic, you know. But can I just say, I'm
also in a glasshouse because if you look at back
at the work that I've done in my past, which
is not worth watching at least Jeremys is worth rewatching.
I mean, I'm sure I've plagiarized so many things from
Jeremy's show, which is plagiaris from other shows.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
Well, this is the thing everyone's plagiarizing every Yeah, no
new ideas. I made of mine told me a story
the other day. I re shared it on here, then
we put it up as a video and we've got
a bunch of comments underneath it.
Speaker 1 (20:33):
Gun, this is Kevin Bridges bit.
Speaker 3 (20:37):
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. So it's a stand up.
I mean, this is FROBM with the mono lack of
monocultures like the people you're listening, even though who Kevin Bridges.
Speaker 2 (20:45):
Is Scottish comedian. You'd know him if you saw him. Yeah,
tough to understand. Good, Oh tremendous. I saw him in
a basement in Glasgow, him and Frankie Boyle.
Speaker 1 (20:54):
We're there for an open mic night.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
It was like, oh my fucking go, We've got the
last two tickets available there and so we was stuck
in the front row. Made made of mine from Wayman
as well, and and they just ripped the ship out
of us the whole time because I couldn't understand Kevin
Bridges and he said something to me and I was
talking to guess at the time, and I was just like,
I've seen this guy on TV before and he said
(21:16):
something to me and I just looked that up at him.
Speaker 1 (21:17):
I thought, he said, what did you just say?
Speaker 2 (21:19):
And so I've seen you on TV before and the
whole night is just think it's like, yeah, I think
he asked where I was from and I'll send you
on TV.
Speaker 1 (21:32):
So yeah, and then Frankie Boyle to it. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (21:35):
Just just just to just to wrap up our conversation, though,
how would you want towns in New Zoom pronounce? Would
you do you want to pronounce why mate? If there
was more molded people there there was more making an effort.
Speaker 2 (21:45):
I think if I think we as broadcasters this is
going to sound hypocritical, but I do think we're as
broadcasters need to guide the way in terms of how
place names are supposed.
Speaker 1 (21:53):
To be pronounced.
Speaker 2 (21:53):
Yeah, having said that, I will continue to call it
why man. But I think as long as and like
the other thing is have a white hot crack. We
are the only multi named station Radio Hidarky, So this
is something that we deal with every every single day.
But if you call it Halraki, I'm not going to
nickel and dime people on it. And also if you're
going to have a crack at saying hodaki and you
(22:15):
call it hodaki or halidaki or whatever, I don't think
we should be having to go people who are having
a crack.
Speaker 3 (22:21):
Yeah. Absolutely, I totally agree with you that, And I
don't think many people are. It's just kind of social
media amplifies it. But I think this is a key
argument in the old racism debate or like your you know,
your parents going a little bit off the off the
rector a little bit. It's like when you call someone
out for a minor mistake. Yeah, they then go, Okay,
well you're saying racist. I'm never going to try again again.
Speaker 1 (22:42):
Yeah, I think you need. I think it's I think
what Maniah says is refreshing. But also there needs to
be a differentiation between mispronunciation and racism. Yes, now those
two things are very very different things. Yeah, because mispronunciation,
even that word pronunciation is mis pronounced all the time. Yeah,
(23:06):
it's not it's not pronunciation, it's pronunciation. So so like
how English is mispronounced all the time, and that and
that does not mean anything other than the fact that
you are just your lips and your brain are not
forming the word in a way that it was originally intended.
And the other thing is with English, the pronunciation of
English going back how many years do you want to stop?
(23:29):
And I think it was the same thing with Malori pronunciation.
If you're safe from huang and nui which pronounces huan
now huan no is how they say far no and so.
And the sound in the South Island is a sound.
So it's a complete there's there's different.
Speaker 3 (23:49):
Dialects just showing off at this point, complicated.
Speaker 1 (23:53):
And it's not racism that that's what I think where
it needs to be clear about.
Speaker 2 (23:57):
Where across the fences when it's like it's New Zealand's row,
we'll never call that that.
Speaker 1 (24:02):
That's see, that's completely different.
Speaker 3 (24:04):
It is that's that's that's that's that's trubling. But I
want to say that I don't think Mauldy have ever
been difficult about this as well. You know the people
who are causing a stir dickheads like me who like
make a big deal about it all the time. But
I hate I appreciate you guys. Let me have this
conversation on your bloody podcast.
Speaker 1 (24:21):
Thanks for much well, it's not thanks for coming in
and so a New Zealand tomorrow as opposed to New
Zealand Today.
Speaker 3 (24:28):
Yeah, it looks very smart there. We've changed the name
very slightly. Now.
Speaker 1 (24:33):
Is that because another company owns the rights to New
Zealand Today.
Speaker 3 (24:36):
No, it was because you needed to pitch a new
show which isn't new, which is which is a new show.
We didn't want to lose the audience that we've already
built up with the reputation of New Zealand Today. But
it is a completely new show like it is. It's
more there's a little bit of actual journalism in there.
Speaker 1 (24:51):
I've got your next season for you. It's just come
to me.
Speaker 2 (24:54):
So you're down there in Wymany obviously, and you enjoyed
it way monthly and I think and you've had New
Zealand to day tomorrow. The logical next step is tomorrow today,
tomorrow tomorrow, third series.
Speaker 3 (25:08):
I think I've been to Timadhoo already. It's one of
my favorite places in New Zealand. Caroline Bay Carnival, get
on down there. Sharon Casey once went and said she
saw the Top Twins sign a dog and if you're
autographing dogs, I want to that's want to be.
Speaker 1 (25:23):
A part of it South.
Speaker 2 (25:24):
That's a funny thing you say that because we said
our first flat was on Timorrow Road in WAYMDY. Timor
wrote and Way month And we used to have a
dog called Annie, and when we got on the piss,
someone would eventually leave, the door opened, the dog would
run down the street. So we took to writing Annie's
owner's phone number on the side of her. So she's
a Jack Russell with two one, three, four eight. It's
so good, so that when she ran off with to
(25:45):
get a phone call that it's one and we'll get.
Speaker 1 (25:47):
Your dog's classic one history of writing on dogs in
South Cana.
Speaker 3 (25:51):
Yeah, that's insane.
Speaker 1 (25:53):
Yeah, you could do another fifteen episodes on that town.
Speaker 3 (25:56):
Yeah, it's a beautiful part of New Zealand And And
as a tourism ambassador, now well you said I wasn't
doing the ambassador. I think I gave one like peelpetus
to get there, Get to the Wallaby Sanctuary, check out
the white concrete White Horse on the hill, go eat
at the beautiful restaurants, of which there are two.
Speaker 1 (26:12):
Do they want? Do they want? Tourists? Because that was
something I learned recently, when I was turning to the
mayor of Palmerston North and someone and he was saying,
we're saying, oh, you know, getting people into palmes North.
He goes, we're Palmerston North. We're a service town for
mainly for rural areas around. Tourism is not really a
(26:34):
thing for us, and it's going to be a thing
for us, and we don't really care about.
Speaker 3 (26:37):
Towns amor fucking Palmerston North to stop bullshitting us. Anyone
who's been to that town knows that their main street
is ninety percent motels and they want people in those motels.
Parmesan North wants tourists. Do you know how I know why?
Mate wants tourists. The only thing they were known for
before I actually went there was a yellow shed on
State Hiowan begging people fucking desperate, saying, hop and visit.
(26:59):
There's so much to see.
Speaker 1 (27:00):
Over fifty friendly shops, and every time I drove past.
Speaker 3 (27:03):
There, I thought, bullshits on.
Speaker 1 (27:06):
Well forty nine of them are op shops.
Speaker 3 (27:10):
But that's that's what the kids are into these days.
Speaker 1 (27:12):
Boom burbs and boobs.
Speaker 3 (27:16):
What are you talking about?
Speaker 1 (27:18):
That shape?
Speaker 3 (27:19):
It's just a neurodiversity just because you don't talk fast,
you never stay on fucking topic.
Speaker 1 (27:24):
What do you?
Speaker 3 (27:25):
And you make everything sexual as well your horner you
didn't have, you didn't have a hand job. After the show,
it's been a while, I'll jacky.
Speaker 1 (27:31):
Of thanks for coming and guy wait the appe.
Speaker 3 (27:34):
Lada, thanks for having me. Guys, cheers,
Get a It's Jerry here from the Hidachey Breakfast, just
letting you know that if you're listening to the podcast
but didn't know that we also do a live radio show,
we do. And if you're wondering how to find out
what frequency to listen to us in your area, just
text North or South as an island to three four
eight three and we'll let your note and now let's
get on with the podcast. Guy Williams joins us on
(00:36):
the podcast today Thursday, the second of October twenty twenty five.
Thanks for coming in, Guy, I appreciate you. Actually that
little note at the beginning there I wouldn't have applied
to somewhere that you have recently made a television series
about Whymarty because they don't get Radiohadackie. So if you
text South, if you're living in Whymarty and you tex
South to three four eight three, it will say.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
Nothing christ Church Dunedin yeah, and otherwise no like although
if you're in Timorrow and you're up at the top
of Old North Ride, there is a car park there
where you can't catch the christ Church frequency, So you
know if you're in If you're in why media and
you want to listen to the show live, just drive
on up to tim Roads at the back of Old
North Road. There here'd be away.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
Welcome to the podcast, guy Williams.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
I am a white man. That's a bold opening. I
had to start somewhere, and I was like, I really
drew the audience in with that one Maniah your pronunciation,
and I say, this is a white man speaking to
a man who has beautiful tina and I assume, I
assume your Mali. I should have guessed the name Manyah,
(01:42):
your pronunciation of timidoo and one. And I realized how
it cringe. This is a white man correcting a MAULDI.
Dude on this.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
Sorry, guy, you tell me how to speak. Please.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
I'm the worst person in New Zealand. I realized that
I'm a human piece of shit. But I gotta go.
It's even greating me now. And I say that as
someone who six months ago before I went to wine Monty.
We're saying why Maddi and Tim Timoru as well.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
Yes, but what did you find when you were there?
How did they say.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
They said it? Timaru and Wanaddi.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
Yeah, exactly, and and I'm from there, so I think
we talked about it. Briefly off here. But part of
it is it's a it's like a colloquial nickname is
part of it because the full name is actually ti
which means you pulled that out, yeah, and timorrow is
t Tihiro Mudu. And these are parts of stories from
(02:32):
around the region, but they've all been shortened because look,
let's be honest, predominantly a white part of the country
these days, even so far as Kourou, which is just
up the road from waymnty Uh. It was originally to Kohudo,
but everyone called it to Kahua, and then all of
a sudden, now on the sign itself as that actually says.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
Well even the province, the very province, well not so
much because of South Canterbury whymty, but Otago Otago will
talk coup is that was that was the yeah, And
when they just mean call Targo, yeah, yeah, there it is.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
You know the kill Mogg, which is the big hell
just north of Dunedin. The bay down there was called
kitty mook call Bay because it was to do with
the type of tattoo that they gave to people around there,
and so it was originally kittimokle that got bastardized down
to kill Mogg, and there's a lot of these names
all up and down the country.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
That's part of it. That's part of why I call
it way medic.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
The other part is when you grow up there and
it is the town with the fewest people of Maori
descenter it was when I grew up there. Yeah, there's
been a few more Sinse, but good breeders, good, great breads,
good breeds good in the sack. There has never been
a Mauri that's ever been bad. I stand by that,
and so now there's way more malory people down there.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
There's ever been a Maori that's ever been bad in
the set. It's remarkable gay you anybody has any how
many how much experience have you got in this room
of people that have made love to people of Maori descent. Well,
I've got to be honest, I'm the only Maori I've
made love and well because of what was happening otherwise
(04:06):
it is your brothers and sisters. So yeah, complicated.
Speaker 3 (04:09):
I've never thought of the racial ethnicity of people I've
made love to before, so I'd have to break that down.
But I don't know if I've ever.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
Like you've never considered the racial ethnicity of the people
you've made love to.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
No, I've never I've never categorized. Don't have a spreadsheet
at home, Jeremy.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
That's all Jerry. Thanks about broken.
Speaker 3 (04:27):
Breaking down by absolutely.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
Don't you have a spreadsheet? Jerry, keep a spreadsheet anymore.
But it's all digital these days.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
It's all online in these days. What did you what
did you find from being down there for? Because you
were there for like six weeks.
Speaker 3 (04:41):
I was there for a yeah, for for a long
time my life. I loved it. My crew hated it.
But I just love small town New zeal I know
Jerry has the same effect, like small town New Zealand
is the best place in the world.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
Well, it's just I feel like there's way less judgment
down there. You don't feel like anyone's ever I mean
around I being gay yeah, or moldy yeah, or riding
a bike yeah, which is pretty gay.
Speaker 3 (05:07):
Yeah, to ride a bike, having a well, I mean
you just be judged. I mean I personally, even in Auckland,
I ride my bike around. I'm a bit of a
loser and a lot of people judged before it. Just
the other day I got like a dude like screaming
at me. I've done nothing wrong. Maybe it was a
bit cheeky with my like merging and a guy screamed
(05:28):
at me and then he immediately calmed down when he
recognized that he recognized me, and he said, hey, guy,
can you not afford a car? And it's like that's
like kind of like everyday in New Zealand mentality towards
bikes as average. I was just I was just extrapolating
that probably yeah it's cold.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
And in winter, Yeah, it's cold there in summer.
Speaker 3 (05:49):
That's why you ride a bike to That was a
great line. It's called it was riding a bike is
what warms you up?
Speaker 1 (05:56):
Did you notice that?
Speaker 3 (05:58):
So?
Speaker 1 (05:58):
How many people reck?
Speaker 2 (05:59):
I mean, first off, you're wearing a suit on the
main streets, so people are like, what's this guy? I
imagine there's a pretty sizable camera crew and sound guy
that are with you. So, but did people recognize you
and know who you were when you were down there?
Speaker 3 (06:11):
I was about fifty fifty yeah, yeah, which is which
is an interesting one. But it's nice also for pill
to not because pell be afraid of me and it's
like people, yeah, I shouldn't be afraid, like the people
who look bad on my show janieraly Peel, who are dickheads,
and like most people I think look awesome. You know,
they might say a few things that are a bit off,
but generally like the people who look bad, like people
(06:33):
who are literally saying the N word, you know, like
literal pieces of shit. Ah well, I mean, let's we
can get to that another. I interviewed some of your
friends and yeah, it went away.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
But so because I remember when I was a kid,
because so little happens there that Sean Fitzpatrick once came
and filmed an ad at the Wymti Hotel. Wow, And yeah,
they had to pull all the blinds because everyone was
at the windows looking at.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
People at the Was it the pink first dodge? It wasn't. No,
you could for the game. He couldn't have brought that
to Why mate. I was thinking, why would you bring
that that to Why? Nah?
Speaker 2 (07:04):
But I just remember that bringing the whole town to
its knees and everyone talking about it for for months afterwards.
Sean Fitzpatrick was here. You remember when Sean Fitzpatrick came
down here, and I don't think anyone famous has been
there since. So that's why I thought when you were
down there, they would have been like, ah, this is amazing.
Speaker 3 (07:19):
Oh who knows. But Kaylee Bowe the legendary country. Were
you friends with her growing up or similar age? She's
killing her?
Speaker 2 (07:26):
Yeah, she's a couple of I probaly shouldn't say this
something Mic probably a couple of years older than me.
I got kicked out of her twenty first by someone
because we technically didn't get invited. I think we must
have been like sixteen seventeen something like that. Meno, mate
pete and we went in there and someone's like, who
the hell invited you?
Speaker 1 (07:41):
Guys? Get out? Or twenty first or interesting in towns
the size of why might you? Because I mean, who
do you not invite? Well, that's that's not to be
invited to someone.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
Well, but so that's actually it's even more brutal than that.
You don't send invites out. People just hear oh there's
a twenty first going on down in the pipe band
hall over Kaylee Bell's house or whatever, and so everyone
just goes. You don't really get invited because there's only
X amount of people there. So to get kicked out
of a party that had no invites even worse not
having brutal but yeah, no, so Kaylie Bell Norman Kirk
(08:14):
would be the two big things that have ever come
out of one and Kyle.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
Boy has been stealing Norman Kirk as well. To be honest,
there's a lot of there's a better crossover going on
with Wymut and Kyapoy because he was the mirror of Kayapor.
He was born in Wymut, he wasn't he, but then
moved to Kylepoy and forever since then Kyaport. Everything about
k K is Norman Kirklis Norman Bloody is not even
from the big Normals Big norm Matt.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
But he is the last Prime minister in New Zealand
to die in office, which is gangster. He had a
heart attack and they were like you should probably knock
the prime minister thing on that. He's like fuck that
on going back.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
And then he then he died at his disc normal
and the last prime minister to have a proper good
song written about it. A crack that's that big norm
songs that's got something.
Speaker 3 (08:55):
To people to people. Do your listeners even know who
we're talking about? Yeah? Should I think so?
Speaker 1 (09:00):
We've talked about Norman Kirka. But I talk about all
the time. Everyone knows big norm.
Speaker 3 (09:05):
Everyone knows big Norm. No, I would say, Jeremy, your a.
You have unbelievable knowledge of small town New Zealand. And
be you're older now, you're still good. I don't really
break your heart. You're still gorgeous.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
I'm a lot older, there's still beautiful.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
But like but I I I appreciate as well. But
even I'm old. Right, last week, it's someone I worked
with the other day and she didn't know who, she
didn't know about the fresh Prince of Belier. You know,
just stuff like that, and you're like, oh for me.
In New Zealand television, that show has been on every
year for the last forty years.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
I reckon. We're also at an interesting time culture wise,
where people now can grow up with very very siloed,
you know, experiences of life, whereas when Fractures we were
growing up, everything was broadcast. I saw was something that
you saw, something everyone experienced at the same time. There
was a great thing. To be honest, I'm I'll be
(09:54):
interested to see how that works out, how it's out
for this generation later on when they took I remember
when I was on my phone by myself six hours
a day. Yeah, and I went down a rabbit hole
of phishing videos. Yeah. You know it's not going to
be a fun conversation.
Speaker 3 (10:09):
Yeah. I genuinely think that's one of the things that
has affected rugby and cricket popularity in New Zealand, because
you know, it's not just like the main channel just goes.
You have to watch cricket against your will, whether you
want it or not, and you become a lifelong fan to.
Speaker 1 (10:22):
Go seek it out.
Speaker 3 (10:23):
And it's easier to find NBA or n f OL
because there's way more illegal streams of that than there
is illegal streams of Super Rugby or whatever. And that
explains why no one goes to Super Rugby anymore.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
And it's a great product. Can we say that it's
a great product. NBA is a great product.
Speaker 3 (10:39):
Yeah, I think even Super Rugby is a great part.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
It's not a great product, is that too?
Speaker 4 (10:44):
I just need to take quick break. We'll be right there.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
A man of social credit, he's got social credit. He
wasn't a member of the Social Credit Party, Let's be
clear about that. That was Gary Napp and Bruce Beetham,
of course.
Speaker 3 (11:14):
But now you've even Okay, I studied political science at university.
I'm almost forty years old, and you have even left
me behind with your knowledge of small town music.
Speaker 1 (11:22):
Can't You don't know Gary Napp and Bruce Beetham.
Speaker 3 (11:25):
Oh good forget Gary Knapp.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
It's a combination of Jerry having been in broadcasting for
the thick end of thirty years. He's constantly googling these
kind of things. And I suspect this mom took Tyler
old when she was pregnant.
Speaker 3 (11:38):
Yeah, that song, I can't tell. I'll ask you this
to Jerry. Do you think that song is celebrating Big
Norm or Mockingham?
Speaker 1 (11:45):
I interviewed the guys who write the song actually and
Great New Zealanders, and they know they love Big Norm.
It was it was a tribute to Big Norm, because.
Speaker 3 (11:55):
It sounds when you listen to it now, it sounds
like they're Mockingham. Kind.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
Yeah, it was definitely. It was definitely a celebration.
Speaker 3 (12:03):
Literally like take my money, take my wife. I want
to give bg Norm for my life. It's like literally
like I want to give everything to him. It talks
about that he's the heir of the commune.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
Like it sounds like no, that was I think Commune
in nineteen seventy one or whenever that was written. That
was a good thing here.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
Ah, yeah, they hadn't been Waco and stuff, So I
think the only other.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
Ones that there was The Ballad of Robbie Muldoon was
another one that was that was I think that was
that was negative interesting. Actually did anyone see that thing
I sent through? Sir Robert Muldone was a huge champion
of TWiki to Mali, yeah, which I was like flab
and then he did a whole thing in Todal Maori.
Speaker 3 (12:43):
At the end of.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
It, I was like, Wow, killed bloody nineteen eighty three
or something that.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
Who would have bloody thought Norm Kirk as well, big
champion of Maori rights back in the day.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
Who would have thought but that?
Speaker 3 (12:54):
But that shouldn't be the way we perceive it, right.
Speaker 1 (12:56):
I shouldn't be shocking that they were no big.
Speaker 3 (12:58):
Because because the issue is now we've got this fricking
American style that has seeped into New Zealand where and
it's like I interview a guy on the show where
I mean, I'd be honest with you, he has views,
he's an old man, he's an eighty year old white
man in one month. E like his his racial views
aren't always great outdated, but he was totally fluent in today.
And I just think it absolutely shook me for a
(13:20):
man who was like kind of at one moment like
nailing his chat about the water, the next moment peddling
like conspiracy theories about Justin da Arderne, and then he
just was fluent and molded. I was like, because back
in the day, you're allowed to be You're allowed to
pick and choose your politics from many places, whereas now
it's like if you're left, you're all this, and if
you're right, you're all this.
Speaker 1 (13:38):
You know what. That's a great point, but the compartmentalization
of politics and political views is incredibly problematic. And to
criticize someone over here and then you lump all of
this other stuff on them for a critique from something
else that's right massively, or.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
That if you think one thing, then you have to
think all of the things that described to that same
political view. And it's annoying because it's like, I want
to voke green, but I'm also very racist.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
So where do I go? You know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (14:06):
I can't This is this.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
Is a little bit of audio of Sir Muldoon here
talking about the virtues of Maori language week the Prime Minister,
the Right Honorable Robert Muldoon.
Speaker 3 (14:19):
Man Nowaka or the Mootooto.
Speaker 1 (14:30):
That's pretty good. I feel pleasure. I'll tell you the way.
Speaker 3 (14:35):
It's quite co mato.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
The kind of waists sitting there. Yeah it was, yeah, yeah,
I haven't.
Speaker 3 (14:44):
It's genuinely a beautiful Would you find that this a
piece of art?
Speaker 1 (14:48):
I got that for some reason that oddly came through
to my algorithm on on Instagram. Yeah, it just shocked
me a do you?
Speaker 3 (14:56):
I mean, you need to cancel your twelve shows you
make at the moment, and you need to make a
New Zealand history show that is also fun. You know,
you know I can see it lighting up in your eye.
I can sit down deep downside. You have the money,
you have the ability to do this.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
Well. I'd like you to go to the archive, thanks
very much, Guy Williams and have a look at the
Unauthorised History of New Zealand the five seasons in there.
Speaker 3 (15:16):
I watched it show and I was a kid, and
most of that was not real. All of that was
not real. Nos I googled it. There was not New
Zealand's first indigenous porno. That wasn't a thing.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
No, that was not true. That was not true. But
I think you have five seventy five percent is real
and bang on that number seventy percent not real. Was
not really a bird? That's that was the one wing bird.
Speaker 3 (15:40):
That was not because I because I because I genuinely
love As a comedy fan, I genuinely love that show.
But it did annoy me because when it came out,
I did think it was going to be a bit
more it was gonna be a bit more faction than
it was, and I was a little bit disappointed.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
There's there's facts in there also. Can I also say
that's actually a Jason? Can I also say this, I'm
going to throw a bombshow on the podcast It's going
to Shape People. As a comedy historian, some of the
jokes on that show were potentially lifted or stolen on
that show on the anthrois History of New Zealand.
Speaker 3 (16:08):
Yes scandal from a very well known British comedian called
Alan Partridge. Specifically the references to the all whites New
Zealand football team. You're commentating about a goal being scored,
and then another goal being scored when the person kicks
in another goal. It's like basically very very very similar
to an Alan Partridge routine.
Speaker 1 (16:29):
Possibly that's possibly true. I know who wrote that, and
and that might that might be a fair criticism, that
might be.
Speaker 3 (16:36):
But what you had the person who wrote it you
and you watched Alan Partridge the night before.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
I didn't write that, but I know exactly who did
and and what actually happened in those days was that
there was no YouTube, there was no Google didn't know
and so no you got tapes of things. So we
used to get sent tapes back in the day from
people who lived in England, butarticularly around Chris Morris stuff
(17:01):
the Brass Eye day to day, which was all amazing stuff.
Speaker 3 (17:04):
That's a deep cut. I don't think many listeners in
New Zealand would know Chris Morris or Brass Eye.
Speaker 1 (17:09):
When you watch Chris Morris and then you watch Eating
Media Lunch, you'll see that there's a very it's very
derivative thought of that.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
The whole Yeah, so about the woman from the woman's
rights ack this' or whatever andthing. It's like if someone
if a man was coming at you would you beat
him off? And she's like, yes, it's if two men
were coming out, how many how many men would you
be well beat all of them off?
Speaker 1 (17:30):
If I Yeah, it was incredibly derivative because we've seen
the Brass Eye day to day and once you've seen
Brass Eye, especially in those days it wasn't on New
Zealand television, and then you can't unsee it because it
was a work of pure genius. It was a work
of pure gen It still stands up.
Speaker 5 (17:48):
Into space on episode the British Isles of the Pedophiles,
the Pedophilio, the pedofili is special and the if people
haven't her listeners haven't seen brass or day to day,
particularly Brass Eye.
Speaker 1 (18:01):
It's all on YouTube.
Speaker 3 (18:01):
Do you know. I'm embarrassed I haven't actually seen that.
I need to see that.
Speaker 1 (18:05):
And it's ridiculously good and the graphics are still amazing.
That's the crazy thing. And the fact that they did
specials on crime, sex and and everything they did, and
the pedophile that was disguised as a school, the footage
that they've got of the pedophile that was disguised as
a school, and the fact that they got genuine questions
asked in parliament about cake, which was a made up
(18:25):
drug which they made up?
Speaker 3 (18:27):
Do they make up cake?
Speaker 1 (18:28):
They made up cake?
Speaker 3 (18:29):
Because I think about cake. There's been a few of those.
Speaker 1 (18:32):
Cake and they were saying cake, and he got celebrities
to say cake, it's a made up drug because it
was like made up of you know, chemicals. Yeah, but
they were and people were actually they asked questions in
British Parliament, why is this not illegal? This drug called cake?
Speaker 3 (18:46):
That's happened a few times. I remember. I think when
I was a kid. Jinkam was another made up drug.
I think they tripped adults into thinking the kids were
sitting into coke bottles and then using the fermented fumes
to huff that to get high.
Speaker 1 (18:57):
Well, you know that thing that you were talking about
with anil Mana that.
Speaker 3 (19:01):
I was trying to say the name in case, but
you just don't write it there.
Speaker 1 (19:06):
That was the first ever bicultural fuck fleck that we
are made up now? That got asked in parliament by
Wayne Mapp, who was the Minister for Political Correctness. The
National Party, who were in opposition in those days, had
had put forward as there guy to stop political corretness.
Because political was going out of control of New Zealand
because labor and power and and so he tabled that
(19:29):
in partment he asked the question, he goes, have you
seen this documentary which has been given public money by
New Zealand there to make it's a it's it's a
Maori pawn that's been made and it's received three million
dollars And so he we we tricked him. Yeah, think
that was a real thing.
Speaker 3 (19:48):
There's there's genuinely I could see.
Speaker 1 (19:49):
People way easier in those days because there's no you
couldn't google anything. Yeah, yeah, yeah, and you saw something
you just thought, oh, that must be real.
Speaker 3 (19:57):
I can't believe you guys always seem so unimpressed on
the show. But I can't believe if you guys are
more impressed by the like the heat that I was
bringing to the podcast in terms of like accusing Jerry
on plagiars.
Speaker 1 (20:06):
Yeah, you're holding his feetistic.
Speaker 3 (20:09):
Worse comedic, you know. But can I just say, I'm
also in a glasshouse because if you look at back
at the work that I've done in my past, which
is not worth watching at least Jeremys is worth rewatching.
I mean, I'm sure I've plagiarized so many things from
Jeremy's show, which is plagiaris from other shows.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
Well, this is the thing everyone's plagiarizing every Yeah, no
new ideas. I made of mine told me a story
the other day. I re shared it on here, then
we put it up as a video and we've got
a bunch of comments underneath it.
Speaker 1 (20:33):
Gun, this is Kevin Bridges bit.
Speaker 3 (20:37):
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. So it's a stand up.
I mean, this is FROBM with the mono lack of
monocultures like the people you're listening, even though who Kevin Bridges.
Speaker 2 (20:45):
Is Scottish comedian. You'd know him if you saw him. Yeah,
tough to understand. Good, Oh tremendous. I saw him in
a basement in Glasgow, him and Frankie Boyle.
Speaker 1 (20:54):
We're there for an open mic night.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
It was like, oh my fucking go, We've got the
last two tickets available there and so we was stuck
in the front row. Made made of mine from Wayman
as well, and and they just ripped the ship out
of us the whole time because I couldn't understand Kevin
Bridges and he said something to me and I was
talking to guess at the time, and I was just like,
I've seen this guy on TV before and he said
(21:16):
something to me and I just looked that up at him.
Speaker 1 (21:17):
I thought, he said, what did you just say?
Speaker 2 (21:19):
And so I've seen you on TV before and the
whole night is just think it's like, yeah, I think
he asked where I was from and I'll send you
on TV.
Speaker 1 (21:32):
So yeah, and then Frankie Boyle to it. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (21:35):
Just just just to just to wrap up our conversation, though,
how would you want towns in New Zoom pronounce? Would
you do you want to pronounce why mate? If there
was more molded people there there was more making an effort.
Speaker 2 (21:45):
I think if I think we as broadcasters this is
going to sound hypocritical, but I do think we're as
broadcasters need to guide the way in terms of how
place names are supposed.
Speaker 1 (21:53):
To be pronounced.
Speaker 2 (21:53):
Yeah, having said that, I will continue to call it
why man. But I think as long as and like
the other thing is have a white hot crack. We
are the only multi named station Radio Hidarky, So this
is something that we deal with every every single day.
But if you call it Halraki, I'm not going to
nickel and dime people on it. And also if you're
going to have a crack at saying hodaki and you
(22:15):
call it hodaki or halidaki or whatever, I don't think
we should be having to go people who are having
a crack.
Speaker 3 (22:21):
Yeah. Absolutely, I totally agree with you that, And I
don't think many people are. It's just kind of social
media amplifies it. But I think this is a key
argument in the old racism debate or like your you know,
your parents going a little bit off the off the
rector a little bit. It's like when you call someone
out for a minor mistake. Yeah, they then go, Okay,
well you're saying racist. I'm never going to try again again.
Speaker 1 (22:42):
Yeah, I think you need. I think it's I think
what Maniah says is refreshing. But also there needs to
be a differentiation between mispronunciation and racism. Yes, now those
two things are very very different things. Yeah, because mispronunciation,
even that word pronunciation is mis pronounced all the time. Yeah,
(23:06):
it's not it's not pronunciation, it's pronunciation. So so like
how English is mispronounced all the time, and that and
that does not mean anything other than the fact that
you are just your lips and your brain are not
forming the word in a way that it was originally intended.
And the other thing is with English, the pronunciation of
English going back how many years do you want to stop?
(23:29):
And I think it was the same thing with Malori pronunciation.
If you're safe from huang and nui which pronounces huan
now huan no is how they say far no and so.
And the sound in the South Island is a sound.
So it's a complete there's there's different.
Speaker 3 (23:49):
Dialects just showing off at this point, complicated.
Speaker 1 (23:53):
And it's not racism that that's what I think where
it needs to be clear about.
Speaker 2 (23:57):
Where across the fences when it's like it's New Zealand's row,
we'll never call that that.
Speaker 1 (24:02):
That's see, that's completely different.
Speaker 3 (24:04):
It is that's that's that's that's that's trubling. But I
want to say that I don't think Mauldy have ever
been difficult about this as well. You know the people
who are causing a stir dickheads like me who like
make a big deal about it all the time. But
I hate I appreciate you guys. Let me have this
conversation on your bloody podcast.
Speaker 1 (24:21):
Thanks for much well, it's not thanks for coming in
and so a New Zealand tomorrow as opposed to New
Zealand Today.
Speaker 3 (24:28):
Yeah, it looks very smart there. We've changed the name
very slightly. Now.
Speaker 1 (24:33):
Is that because another company owns the rights to New
Zealand Today.
Speaker 3 (24:36):
No, it was because you needed to pitch a new
show which isn't new, which is which is a new show.
We didn't want to lose the audience that we've already
built up with the reputation of New Zealand Today. But
it is a completely new show like it is. It's
more there's a little bit of actual journalism in there.
Speaker 1 (24:51):
I've got your next season for you. It's just come
to me.
Speaker 2 (24:54):
So you're down there in Wymany obviously, and you enjoyed
it way monthly and I think and you've had New
Zealand to day tomorrow. The logical next step is tomorrow today,
tomorrow tomorrow, third series.
Speaker 3 (25:08):
I think I've been to Timadhoo already. It's one of
my favorite places in New Zealand. Caroline Bay Carnival, get
on down there. Sharon Casey once went and said she
saw the Top Twins sign a dog and if you're
autographing dogs, I want to that's want to be.
Speaker 1 (25:23):
A part of it South.
Speaker 2 (25:24):
That's a funny thing you say that because we said
our first flat was on Timorrow Road in WAYMDY. Timor
wrote and Way month And we used to have a
dog called Annie, and when we got on the piss,
someone would eventually leave, the door opened, the dog would
run down the street. So we took to writing Annie's
owner's phone number on the side of her. So she's
a Jack Russell with two one, three, four eight. It's
so good, so that when she ran off with to
(25:45):
get a phone call that it's one and we'll get.
Speaker 1 (25:47):
Your dog's classic one history of writing on dogs in
South Cana.
Speaker 3 (25:51):
Yeah, that's insane.
Speaker 1 (25:53):
Yeah, you could do another fifteen episodes on that town.
Speaker 3 (25:56):
Yeah, it's a beautiful part of New Zealand And And
as a tourism ambassador, now well you said I wasn't
doing the ambassador. I think I gave one like peelpetus
to get there, Get to the Wallaby Sanctuary, check out
the white concrete White Horse on the hill, go eat
at the beautiful restaurants, of which there are two.
Speaker 1 (26:12):
Do they want? Do they want? Tourists? Because that was
something I learned recently, when I was turning to the
mayor of Palmerston North and someone and he was saying,
we're saying, oh, you know, getting people into palmes North.
He goes, we're Palmerston North. We're a service town for
mainly for rural areas around. Tourism is not really a
(26:34):
thing for us, and it's going to be a thing
for us, and we don't really care about.
Speaker 3 (26:37):
Towns amor fucking Palmerston North to stop bullshitting us. Anyone
who's been to that town knows that their main street
is ninety percent motels and they want people in those motels.
Parmesan North wants tourists. Do you know how I know why?
Mate wants tourists. The only thing they were known for
before I actually went there was a yellow shed on
State Hiowan begging people fucking desperate, saying, hop and visit.
(26:59):
There's so much to see.
Speaker 1 (27:00):
Over fifty friendly shops, and every time I drove past.
Speaker 3 (27:03):
There, I thought, bullshits on.
Speaker 1 (27:06):
Well forty nine of them are op shops.
Speaker 3 (27:10):
But that's that's what the kids are into these days.
Speaker 1 (27:12):
Boom burbs and boobs.
Speaker 3 (27:16):
What are you talking about?
Speaker 1 (27:18):
That shape?
Speaker 3 (27:19):
It's just a neurodiversity just because you don't talk fast,
you never stay on fucking topic.
Speaker 1 (27:24):
What do you?
Speaker 3 (27:25):
And you make everything sexual as well your horner you
didn't have, you didn't have a hand job. After the show,
it's been a while, I'll jacky.
Speaker 1 (27:31):
Of thanks for coming and guy wait the appe.
Speaker 3 (27:34):
Lada, thanks for having me. Guys, cheers,
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