October 5, 2025 • 20 mins
On the pod today, the guys talked about phones.. retro ringtones, how much time we're spending on them, and why Jerry's son keeps losing his!
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Get a It's Jerry here from the Headache Breakfast. Just
letting you know that if you're listening to the podcast
but didn't know that we also do a live radio show,
we do. And if you're wondering how to find out
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takes north or South as an island to three four
eight three. Then we'll let you know. And now let's
get on with the podcast. Welcome onto the podcast Matter
(00:37):
the sixth of October twenty twenty five minutes. Jeremy Wells
in surprise, malng Or in attendance.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
Surprise, good month long, happy Monday, fellas Jesus, it doesn't
really feel like one.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
I'll tell you. It was one of those weekends, wasn't
it if you were up sport watching Oh my god? Yeah,
but yeah, absolutely spent.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
Oh I am as a ridiculous, ridiculous timing for some
of the sports that we played over the weekend. Why
was the All Blacks so bloody late Perth?
Speaker 1 (01:06):
But just Perth?
Speaker 2 (01:08):
But just play it on p played in the afternoon.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
Don't play it in Perth.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
Don't play in bloody Perth.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
I mean, nothing should be played in Perth. Apart from
Australia versus you know, South Africa cricket matches.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
Yeah, well, well they don't even play them with the
wacker anymore.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
So what time would it have started? East and Seaboard time?
Seven forty five, seven forty five five, in forty five
something in Perth and Perth. But I'm thinking because I'm
guessing they would have been aiming at the Eastern Seaboard
market from Perth because we were ten forty five. So
Sydney seven forty five, Perth.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
Yep forty five. So great if you're in Perth, great
if you're on the Eastern seaboard of Australia.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
Sure.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
Firstly, nobody in Perth watches rugby and nobody on the
Eastern Seaboard of Australia watches rugby.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
I don't agree with that. Half of the population of
Perth is kiw we.
Speaker 1 (01:59):
So yeah, I did see. I did notice that there's
a lot of There were a lot of New Zealanders
at opt the stadium.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
The stadium God was raining, yeah, bloody per Yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
Maybe I'm just used to Perth. I'm just used to
Perth in the summer because I only hear a hear
about Perth during New Zealand playing Australia at in cricket,
and so you just think about thirty five degrees the
Freemantle doctor, It's it's grueling.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
I've told the story many times about my father and
I was sitting in the stands at the Whacker for
a couple of days waiting for Arno Kumblad to take
his fucking millionth work it. As soon as we left,
I think I had heat stroke. I was about to
throw up. It was that bloody hot. So it's a
dry heat that way, dry as dry as dry and
hot as hell.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
Right, it was stupid.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
We were the only ones sitting in the stand. We
were like, we couldn't believe how good a seat we
could get because all of the Aussies were sitting because yeah,
there's there's shadows, and everywhere the shadows were were Australians
and then there was me and Dad.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
You know, that's how you can tell a New Zealand
anywhere in the world. Yeah, we don't gravitate to the shade. Well,
are the only people in the world. We're like, we're
straight into the sun and we get absolutely brutalized by it.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
We're like dogs as opposed to cats. If you walk
into a room, a dog will just be sitting wherever
the hell, whereas a cat will find the most comfortable
position in the room to sit, you know what I mean?
A dog will how many times as your dog just
about caught on fire, sitting in front of the fireplace
or a heater or something. And then whereas the cat's
always sitting in the right spot. We as Kiwis, we're dogs. Yeah,
(03:32):
we're always in the wrong spots. What's that guy doing
over there?
Speaker 1 (03:34):
Yeah? Why's he doing that? Go anywhere in the tropics though,
and you just everybody just hangs out in the shade
the whole time. Everyone's looking for the shade. And as
a kid, you just grow up knowing that you should
be in the shade. It just makes sense for us.
We're just brutalizing ourselves in the same because you're in
the sun.
Speaker 3 (03:52):
Yeah, am I not a Keiwik because I gravitate towards
the shade?
Speaker 1 (03:55):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (03:56):
This is blome my mind. What you guys are saying
that it's a New Zealand thing, go for the shade?
Speaker 1 (04:00):
Is it?
Speaker 3 (04:00):
Because I'm so parley?
Speaker 1 (04:02):
I always so what.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
I'm so parley pale, pale, yeah, pale man.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
I always see New Zealanders just getting punished in the sun.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
I think the other thing is when you go over seas,
because usually when you're here you get burnt straight away,
whereas if you go over seas you can actually sit
in the sun for hours and be sweet.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
Yeah. I wonder as well. Being a North Islander, particularly
Upper North Islander, whether I mean for News for Upper Northouldanders,
doesn't matter whether you're in the shade or the sun.
You just gets hot.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
Shade doesn't help.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
Not in Auckland. It's humor is a problem. But in
the South Island you get in the shade and it's
probably too.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
Cold, yeah, can be Well, that's the other thing that
passed me off is in the South Island you can
get sunburn and still be cold, you know, And that
tries that sucks, Yeah it does, but you're right. It's
the it's a community. And another thing that happens up
here is there's like humidity spikes. You know about this.
(04:59):
I I only became aware of it a couple of
years ago. And it's a thing where because Auckland's on
two coasts on the Isthmus that you can have these
rapid spikes in humidity where the temperature doesn't go up
at all, and all of a sudden, you just find
yourself sweating and you're like, why do I feel so
much more uncomfortable? And it can happen at like seven
o'clock at night, and it's a humidity spike.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
Yeah, I know those. I reckon. There's a week and
it's generally at the end of January. Yeah. Yeah, and
it's where you can't do up your shoes without sweating.
So you bend over to do up your shoelaces and
you get sweating. And once you start sweating, you actually
can't stop. You need a cold shower is the only
way to stop it.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
Get out of the shower, and then you're immediately sweaty again,
and you're like, god, what was the point of that.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
Yeah. Even the other day actually, I came back from
the South Island with my dry South Island lips from
the no humidity and got off the plane and it's
what it was, the last couple of days of September,
so you know, first month of spring, and it was human.
I just immediately felt the humidity. Yeah, it was like yep,
there it is the old North Island humidity.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
Yeah, a few mates that whenever they come up here,
they're like, fuck, it's hot. How do you how do
you put up with this?
Speaker 1 (06:12):
And so it's not actually hot. It's actually the humidity,
Actually the humidity that gets It's not that it's actually
twenty four degrees.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
I think you'll find it's the humidity. She ever got
the speed dealers, it's just walked past.
Speaker 3 (06:22):
It is that kind of like, well, you can't be
Wellington in a good day.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
Yeah, it's not the hate, it's the humidity.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
It's not the hate. It's the humidity that will get
you in Auckland.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
I'm sure this is I'm sure every sort of large
town or city in New Zealand has the equivalent of this.
But everyone that lives on the north shore of Auckland
will tell you how close it is to the CBD,
And that's a did give away that it is not close,
closer than you'd think. Yeah, it's actually not that far.
It's actually not that fast, isn't it? Or have they
built had to build the most expensive bridge in the
(06:55):
country to get you there?
Speaker 1 (06:56):
How about in Russia?
Speaker 3 (06:58):
Yeah, exactly what you're going to say in Russia.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
Well how about in Russia? You know, is that close
to the Auckland Sea, Russia? No, not back close, not
close at all. No, that's the thing. Whenever you whenever
you hear someone, someone will be like, oh yeah see
something not not too far from the cross. You see it?
Everyone brought it up.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
Sorry, sorry, no, I'm just my screen time. Things just
come up. Fuck that. How's everyone going? Last week's It'll
be no good. How's everyone gone?
Speaker 2 (07:29):
It'll be no good at all.
Speaker 3 (07:31):
This is like maybe you're playing Australia at cricket. I
always lose always or do I win? You lose your things?
I thought you think you lose again?
Speaker 1 (07:42):
You Yeah, go to the bottom of that first page.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
Daily average fifty one minutes for me.
Speaker 3 (07:51):
Well that's good, na I yeah, one minute now that's
the first thing that comes up. You've got to go.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
That's today, is it?
Speaker 2 (07:58):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (07:59):
Yeah, go back to last week. You swipe back and
you'll get into yesterday. I was two hours twenty seven yesterday.
That's pretty good. Actually, four hours one on.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
Saturday, yes, same, four hours fifty three.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
Oh my god, two hours on WhatsApp? What the hell?
Speaker 3 (08:16):
Oh there we go, that's not.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
Hang on tho, hang on though, we.
Speaker 3 (08:22):
Want to know. Do you want to know?
Speaker 1 (08:24):
What were you?
Speaker 3 (08:24):
My last week?
Speaker 1 (08:25):
Ever? Long?
Speaker 3 (08:27):
Down seven percent from the week previous, A mere five
hours forty seven minutes. Wow, I was four fucking what's
going on?
Speaker 2 (08:38):
I need to put the fucking thing down?
Speaker 1 (08:40):
What was going on?
Speaker 2 (08:40):
Scroll down? How many notifications are you getting?
Speaker 1 (08:43):
There's a thing that's quite a good one. So my
average for the week.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
Yeah, average for the week, I am just under. I'm
seventy four messages a day. I receive seventy four notifications.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
Oh notifications, okay, notifications eighty eight percent? Down R three
three notifications. Yeah, I don't have notifications on.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
I need to turn more of them off.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
I turned mine off. But my daily packups, Now this
is the thing ruder, This is the bit that screws you. Yeah,
what was last week's average packups?
Speaker 2 (09:20):
How do you find?
Speaker 3 (09:22):
No, that's down?
Speaker 1 (09:23):
That's above verage? Pickups is above notifications.
Speaker 3 (09:27):
Now I can only see total. I can see total pickups,
go back.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
To last year, one hundred and one pickups?
Speaker 1 (09:34):
Is that average last week? Yeah? That's not too bad.
I was ninety eight.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
So when I pick it up, I'm using it for
too much. I feel like if I watch something on
my computer that's showing up in my screen time.
Speaker 3 (09:44):
Maybe yeah, one hundred and ninety five, one.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
Hundred and ninety five packups. He's your problem, Ruder. You've
got to you've got to cut that.
Speaker 3 (09:52):
The packups ninety one last week?
Speaker 2 (09:54):
WHOA, how do you cut the pickups down? Well, you
just stop.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
I'm in an interesting situation with my thirteen year old
son's clearly addicted to his phone like all kids seemed
to be, and all his friends, and it's bloody hard
to watch, to be honest and horrible. Should we come
back to this, Yes, I gotta have. So I'll look
(10:21):
for a bit of advice from you two one person, Ruder,
father of two and I father of none. And but
but but recent most recently are teenager yourself? Yeah, yep,
and yeah, I'd like your advice on this. So my
son is recently he was went fishing and his phone
(10:43):
fell out of his pocket and oh, that's right, I
couldn't find it. No, there was that time it went
into the water. Yeah. Yeah, And so he lost that
phone because we freshed it out and it didn't work,
and then he got another phone, and then we waited
a while, probably about three weeks, trying and make him
kind of punish on and got another phone and he
(11:06):
has now lost that phone. Oh how thirteen.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
But I did this when I was thirteen. So I
saved up all my pocket money for years, a couple
of years and bought a cell phone. And I just
was not equipped to have it. I lift it on
top of the car one day, Mom drove down to
the supermarket and it fell off. Someone found it and
gave it to the cops and they rung us and.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
Yeah it was buggered.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
Well, I lift it in random places. I lost I
think I lost three three insurance claims from mum.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
Well he's normally pretty good, Like he's had a phone
for a couple of years and he's only lost it
in the last wee while. Yeah, but twice.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
It's just so easy to do at that age.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
Yeah, but okay, so what so I don't want to
I don't want to buy him another phone. Firstly, it's
too expensive. Yeah. Secondly, I want to teach him a
lesson about about losing things. Well, I think maybe so
I need because he is at boarding school. I need
to also be able to get hold of him because
there's no other phone.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
That's why I had run. Yeah. So, but well I
do well. I think you get his you get his
pickups up. He's not picking it up often enough, and
that's where he's he's leaving it and losing it. So
if you can get him up around the three or
four hundred pickups a day, then the chance of him
losing that away.
Speaker 1 (12:25):
Seems to lose it only when he's fishing.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
Have you ever lost your phone?
Speaker 3 (12:29):
No, I phone.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
I've it up two hundred times a day.
Speaker 3 (12:32):
I've damaged my phone quite badly a number of times,
but cracks drop it in my own urine.
Speaker 1 (12:38):
I'm thinking Nokia flip phone.
Speaker 3 (12:40):
Yeah, I was going to suggest he's really not.
Speaker 2 (12:43):
Nah.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
He sort of said that. It's basically, if you're running
a Nokia flip phone at the age of thirteen, every
one makes fun of you.
Speaker 3 (12:49):
The social Suicideah, you might lose it on purpose.
Speaker 1 (12:51):
Bro.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
When I was thirteen, if I had a nock your
flip phone, that's like top of the pops there.
Speaker 1 (12:56):
Yeah, I mean they didn't have phones.
Speaker 3 (12:57):
When I can I ask a question, Jary Beefully it's
not too personal. What sort of coin are you spinning
on phones?
Speaker 1 (13:03):
For you. Well, the last tie was like a second
hand like iPhone and eleven or twelve or something. It
was like the cheapest thing I could possibly get. Yeah,
you know had basically.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
Yeah, because back in my day it was still the
nock Here twenty to eighty. And in fact, my first
cell phone was an Alcaatel the Greensucker, all the aeril
out of it.
Speaker 3 (13:26):
Wow, one of those ones.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
Then I got the knock Here twenty to eighty, clickerly
clack on the buttons. We so the school teachers took
the took rugby balls off us at lunchtime because we
were ripping our uniforms. So we'd play rugby at lunchtime,
and you know, we'd all come in with ripped pockets
and shirts ripped and stuff. And they were like, we can't,
we can't have this, So they took the rugby balls
off us. We started playing rugby with nock Here twenty
(13:50):
two eighties. Instead of the ball. You could put that
thing as far as you could a Gilbert that's good,
and all that would happen is maybe the bettery would
come Out's good. It was quite fun. I remember distinctly
one day we're playing with one of the kids cell
phones and we're tossing around and started ringing and he
had to take a call from his master.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
That's good, Okay, So I'm not any closer to any
advice from you. Guys have actually proper practical advice is
what what? What should I do?
Speaker 2 (14:19):
I just think he might be too young, because I
remember at that age I was losing the phone all
the time because you know, you're not thinking about it.
And actually maybe that's a good thing, because he's, you know.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
He's definitely thinking about it the whole bloody time. He's
not way too much. I reckon. It's it's it's slightly
ADHD spectrum, which you were on. Well.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
But I also wonder if he.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
Loses lots of stuff all the time.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
Because you know how people are like, oh yeah, add
wasn't around when I was a kid, blah blah blah,
so cell phones went around. I don't know if there's
more people with various different things, or you just your
brain's not designed to have the entirety of human information
beamed into your fucking head. Twenty four hours of.
Speaker 1 (14:55):
Oh man, I reckon, cell phones are causing a huge
spike in.
Speaker 2 (14:59):
That my my attention spent so cool. Yesterday I tried
to watch them. Well, I did watch a movie on
the couch and I just found myself picking my phone
up and then look back at the TV and I'm like,
what's going on in this movie?
Speaker 1 (15:09):
Just put the phone? I reckon as well. If you're
tired slash hungover, then you will pack up your phone
way more as well. It's just like a boom boom.
It's like your brain just does the easiest, most basic thing.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
I did it again last night watching the Grand Final.
The group chat was firing up, and so I was like, oh,
what are the fellas reckon about the game?
Speaker 1 (15:27):
Now?
Speaker 2 (15:27):
All of a sudden, I'm on Instagram and I'm watching
someone else posting about the game. I'm fucking watching.
Speaker 1 (15:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (15:33):
A couple more questions regarding your son and his phone.
Does he realize how important it is to you guys
that he has one?
Speaker 1 (15:42):
Ie?
Speaker 3 (15:42):
Does he know that you know you want to keep
that contact with him and that's the best way of
doing it.
Speaker 1 (15:48):
Maybe?
Speaker 3 (15:48):
Yeah, I mean I don't.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
I don't think I don't really want to be in
contact with him that much.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
To be honest, you're not just asking him what's up?
Speaker 1 (15:56):
Random exactly like, nah, I mean you have have to
because he's away at boarding school. But I don't really,
I don't know, Like I don't I don't want to
talk to that much.
Speaker 3 (16:06):
And question number two, does he have any way at
the moment of making money, because I know your daughter
has currently got a job.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
Well, yes he has. Actually he well he can do
jobs and over the weekend he did, but that was
to pay something else off. So it's kind of like
which we had to buy for him because he lost.
So it's like, I don't know, I'm kind of I'm
sort of I'm hoping it's just a phase. But at
the same time, I want to make a good parenting
(16:35):
I don't want to like be an asshole. But at
the same time, I got to You've got to teach
your kids that the value of things and like, don't
lose things. And I think if you if you lose something,
you have to go with it, you have to go
without it.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
Oh yeah, well because that's how life works. Yeah, and
it sucks.
Speaker 1 (16:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
I'm trying to think because, like I said, I lost
mine like three times, and I I don't know, I
think it was it just took for me getting a
little bit older, but back then they didn't have social
media on that phones. It was literally just texting, although
I could download a polyphonic ring tone at that point
they were great Lincoln Park numb a numb polyphonic ring pack,
(17:13):
and then and then after that you could actually start
recording things and you could set that as your and
I had the intro to faint by Lincoln Park, the screeching.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
How into Lincoln Park? Were you very into? Linkin like,
you were really into Lincoln Park, weren't you?
Speaker 2 (17:29):
And I relapsed probably once a year into my Lincoln parkways,
but really passed my dad off Lincoln Park.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
We went over to the West Coast one time for
like a holiday, and I was texting all my mates
the whole way across. Then every single time I received
a text, the screeching strings from the start of Lincoln
Park Faint started on the text on the Yeah I didn't. Yeah,
I want to throw that thing out the window.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
I'm amazed he didn't.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
Oh he should have.
Speaker 1 (17:59):
I think I would have.
Speaker 2 (17:59):
Yeah, I just about did. But by the end of it,
how are you, dude?
Speaker 1 (18:07):
Oh that's quite good.
Speaker 2 (18:09):
Yeah, Hello, I'm just around at Piztez. Oh. Yeah, yeah,
I'll be I'm sure, sure that's good.
Speaker 1 (18:19):
How like budget was the sound.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
Of polyphonic ringtones. I don't even think mine was that good.
Speaker 3 (18:25):
It's not a bad one.
Speaker 2 (18:26):
And you used to sit there and flick through them
and used to buy them.
Speaker 1 (18:30):
You used to have to buy them.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
What ever happens to the polyphonic ringtone, man, we've we've
really lost our way.
Speaker 1 (18:35):
It'll come back, because they'll come back as a retrophone.
Speaker 2 (18:37):
Now because the only people that are still changing the ringtone,
I think most people have the default ringtone. Have either
of you has got a custom ring tone?
Speaker 1 (18:44):
I've got my mine's always on silent, yes, same.
Speaker 3 (18:48):
I can't remember what mine is now.
Speaker 2 (18:51):
But I've noticed the older boys, a lot of them
have that rock and roll thing. I don't have that
as their ring as a wedding down sound. A couple
of weeks ago and Georg the boat, Yeah yeah, yeah,
I heard a couple of different fune guys up there,
and then they answer it at a volume that is
so unreasonable to talk on a phone. So I do
(19:13):
just open the window here here. You don't need to
call them.
Speaker 3 (19:15):
Do you know what'd be really annoying to the listeners
of the radio show as if we ran top of ours,
we're just standard ring tones because they just think their
phone's fucking.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
Oh yeah or the alarm tone.
Speaker 3 (19:26):
Okay, we're funny, right.
Speaker 2 (19:29):
I will say, if you still listening to this podcast
at this point, I've just come across a post from
Charlie Brown. It was regarding the Austin City Limits podcast
that we talked about last week. They were talking about
some of the because there's about one hundred different artists
we're going there this weekend. So if you are familiar
with any of them, get onto it's Charlie Brown's post.
(19:49):
I'm sure he's a real person. Don't post if you're
an adult, because all ill here is. But get in
there with your reviews of some of the bands that
we should go to, because I think we haven't heard
the most a lot of the smaller ones.
Speaker 1 (20:03):
We started up on Friday, didn't we listening to different
bands and stuff like that.
Speaker 2 (20:07):
Yeah, So get your reviews and let us know which
ones we should go and see and we'll talk about
it tomorrow.
Speaker 3 (20:14):
I think this is mine that.
Speaker 1 (20:16):
I think that's mine too. What is that one called?
Speaker 3 (20:20):
It's called Reflection Default.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
Stop stop stressing out.
Speaker 3 (20:28):
This one was better.
Speaker 1 (20:31):
That's the ship alright,
Get a It's Jerry here from the Headache Breakfast. Just
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get on with the podcast. Welcome onto the podcast Matter
(00:37):
the sixth of October twenty twenty five minutes. Jeremy Wells
in surprise, malng Or in attendance.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
Surprise, good month long, happy Monday, fellas Jesus, it doesn't
really feel like one.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
I'll tell you. It was one of those weekends, wasn't
it if you were up sport watching Oh my god? Yeah,
but yeah, absolutely spent.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
Oh I am as a ridiculous, ridiculous timing for some
of the sports that we played over the weekend. Why
was the All Blacks so bloody late Perth?
Speaker 1 (01:06):
But just Perth?
Speaker 2 (01:08):
But just play it on p played in the afternoon.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
Don't play it in Perth.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
Don't play in bloody Perth.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
I mean, nothing should be played in Perth. Apart from
Australia versus you know, South Africa cricket matches.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
Yeah, well, well they don't even play them with the
wacker anymore.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
So what time would it have started? East and Seaboard time?
Seven forty five, seven forty five five, in forty five
something in Perth and Perth. But I'm thinking because I'm
guessing they would have been aiming at the Eastern Seaboard
market from Perth because we were ten forty five. So
Sydney seven forty five, Perth.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
Yep forty five. So great if you're in Perth, great
if you're on the Eastern seaboard of Australia.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
Sure.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
Firstly, nobody in Perth watches rugby and nobody on the
Eastern Seaboard of Australia watches rugby.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
I don't agree with that. Half of the population of
Perth is kiw we.
Speaker 1 (01:59):
So yeah, I did see. I did notice that there's
a lot of There were a lot of New Zealanders
at opt the stadium.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
The stadium God was raining, yeah, bloody per Yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
Maybe I'm just used to Perth. I'm just used to
Perth in the summer because I only hear a hear
about Perth during New Zealand playing Australia at in cricket,
and so you just think about thirty five degrees the
Freemantle doctor, It's it's grueling.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
I've told the story many times about my father and
I was sitting in the stands at the Whacker for
a couple of days waiting for Arno Kumblad to take
his fucking millionth work it. As soon as we left,
I think I had heat stroke. I was about to
throw up. It was that bloody hot. So it's a
dry heat that way, dry as dry as dry and
hot as hell.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
Right, it was stupid.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
We were the only ones sitting in the stand. We
were like, we couldn't believe how good a seat we
could get because all of the Aussies were sitting because yeah,
there's there's shadows, and everywhere the shadows were were Australians
and then there was me and Dad.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
You know, that's how you can tell a New Zealand
anywhere in the world. Yeah, we don't gravitate to the shade. Well,
are the only people in the world. We're like, we're
straight into the sun and we get absolutely brutalized by it.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
We're like dogs as opposed to cats. If you walk
into a room, a dog will just be sitting wherever
the hell, whereas a cat will find the most comfortable
position in the room to sit, you know what I mean?
A dog will how many times as your dog just
about caught on fire, sitting in front of the fireplace
or a heater or something. And then whereas the cat's
always sitting in the right spot. We as Kiwis, we're dogs. Yeah,
(03:32):
we're always in the wrong spots. What's that guy doing
over there?
Speaker 1 (03:34):
Yeah? Why's he doing that? Go anywhere in the tropics though,
and you just everybody just hangs out in the shade
the whole time. Everyone's looking for the shade. And as
a kid, you just grow up knowing that you should
be in the shade. It just makes sense for us.
We're just brutalizing ourselves in the same because you're in
the sun.
Speaker 3 (03:52):
Yeah, am I not a Keiwik because I gravitate towards
the shade?
Speaker 1 (03:55):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (03:56):
This is blome my mind. What you guys are saying
that it's a New Zealand thing, go for the shade?
Speaker 1 (04:00):
Is it?
Speaker 3 (04:00):
Because I'm so parley?
Speaker 1 (04:02):
I always so what.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
I'm so parley pale, pale, yeah, pale man.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
I always see New Zealanders just getting punished in the sun.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
I think the other thing is when you go over seas,
because usually when you're here you get burnt straight away,
whereas if you go over seas you can actually sit
in the sun for hours and be sweet.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
Yeah. I wonder as well. Being a North Islander, particularly
Upper North Islander, whether I mean for News for Upper Northouldanders,
doesn't matter whether you're in the shade or the sun.
You just gets hot.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
Shade doesn't help.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
Not in Auckland. It's humor is a problem. But in
the South Island you get in the shade and it's
probably too.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
Cold, yeah, can be Well, that's the other thing that
passed me off is in the South Island you can
get sunburn and still be cold, you know, And that
tries that sucks, Yeah it does, but you're right. It's
the it's a community. And another thing that happens up
here is there's like humidity spikes. You know about this.
(04:59):
I I only became aware of it a couple of
years ago. And it's a thing where because Auckland's on
two coasts on the Isthmus that you can have these
rapid spikes in humidity where the temperature doesn't go up
at all, and all of a sudden, you just find
yourself sweating and you're like, why do I feel so
much more uncomfortable? And it can happen at like seven
o'clock at night, and it's a humidity spike.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
Yeah, I know those. I reckon. There's a week and
it's generally at the end of January. Yeah. Yeah, and
it's where you can't do up your shoes without sweating.
So you bend over to do up your shoelaces and
you get sweating. And once you start sweating, you actually
can't stop. You need a cold shower is the only
way to stop it.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
Get out of the shower, and then you're immediately sweaty again,
and you're like, god, what was the point of that.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
Yeah. Even the other day actually, I came back from
the South Island with my dry South Island lips from
the no humidity and got off the plane and it's
what it was, the last couple of days of September,
so you know, first month of spring, and it was human.
I just immediately felt the humidity. Yeah, it was like yep,
there it is the old North Island humidity.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
Yeah, a few mates that whenever they come up here,
they're like, fuck, it's hot. How do you how do
you put up with this?
Speaker 1 (06:12):
And so it's not actually hot. It's actually the humidity,
Actually the humidity that gets It's not that it's actually
twenty four degrees.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
I think you'll find it's the humidity. She ever got
the speed dealers, it's just walked past.
Speaker 3 (06:22):
It is that kind of like, well, you can't be
Wellington in a good day.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
Yeah, it's not the hate, it's the humidity.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
It's not the hate. It's the humidity that will get
you in Auckland.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
I'm sure this is I'm sure every sort of large
town or city in New Zealand has the equivalent of this.
But everyone that lives on the north shore of Auckland
will tell you how close it is to the CBD,
And that's a did give away that it is not close,
closer than you'd think. Yeah, it's actually not that far.
It's actually not that fast, isn't it? Or have they
built had to build the most expensive bridge in the
(06:55):
country to get you there?
Speaker 1 (06:56):
How about in Russia?
Speaker 3 (06:58):
Yeah, exactly what you're going to say in Russia.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
Well how about in Russia? You know, is that close
to the Auckland Sea, Russia? No, not back close, not
close at all. No, that's the thing. Whenever you whenever
you hear someone, someone will be like, oh yeah see
something not not too far from the cross. You see it?
Everyone brought it up.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
Sorry, sorry, no, I'm just my screen time. Things just
come up. Fuck that. How's everyone going? Last week's It'll
be no good. How's everyone gone?
Speaker 2 (07:29):
It'll be no good at all.
Speaker 3 (07:31):
This is like maybe you're playing Australia at cricket. I
always lose always or do I win? You lose your things?
I thought you think you lose again?
Speaker 1 (07:42):
You Yeah, go to the bottom of that first page.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
Daily average fifty one minutes for me.
Speaker 3 (07:51):
Well that's good, na I yeah, one minute now that's
the first thing that comes up. You've got to go.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
That's today, is it?
Speaker 2 (07:58):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (07:59):
Yeah, go back to last week. You swipe back and
you'll get into yesterday. I was two hours twenty seven yesterday.
That's pretty good. Actually, four hours one on.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
Saturday, yes, same, four hours fifty three.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
Oh my god, two hours on WhatsApp? What the hell?
Speaker 3 (08:16):
Oh there we go, that's not.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
Hang on tho, hang on though, we.
Speaker 3 (08:22):
Want to know. Do you want to know?
Speaker 1 (08:24):
What were you?
Speaker 3 (08:24):
My last week?
Speaker 1 (08:25):
Ever? Long?
Speaker 3 (08:27):
Down seven percent from the week previous, A mere five
hours forty seven minutes. Wow, I was four fucking what's
going on?
Speaker 2 (08:38):
I need to put the fucking thing down?
Speaker 1 (08:40):
What was going on?
Speaker 2 (08:40):
Scroll down? How many notifications are you getting?
Speaker 1 (08:43):
There's a thing that's quite a good one. So my
average for the week.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
Yeah, average for the week, I am just under. I'm
seventy four messages a day. I receive seventy four notifications.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
Oh notifications, okay, notifications eighty eight percent? Down R three
three notifications. Yeah, I don't have notifications on.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
I need to turn more of them off.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
I turned mine off. But my daily packups, Now this
is the thing ruder, This is the bit that screws you. Yeah,
what was last week's average packups?
Speaker 2 (09:20):
How do you find?
Speaker 3 (09:22):
No, that's down?
Speaker 1 (09:23):
That's above verage? Pickups is above notifications.
Speaker 3 (09:27):
Now I can only see total. I can see total pickups,
go back.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
To last year, one hundred and one pickups?
Speaker 1 (09:34):
Is that average last week? Yeah? That's not too bad.
I was ninety eight.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
So when I pick it up, I'm using it for
too much. I feel like if I watch something on
my computer that's showing up in my screen time.
Speaker 3 (09:44):
Maybe yeah, one hundred and ninety five, one.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
Hundred and ninety five packups. He's your problem, Ruder. You've
got to you've got to cut that.
Speaker 3 (09:52):
The packups ninety one last week?
Speaker 2 (09:54):
WHOA, how do you cut the pickups down? Well, you
just stop.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
I'm in an interesting situation with my thirteen year old
son's clearly addicted to his phone like all kids seemed
to be, and all his friends, and it's bloody hard
to watch, to be honest and horrible. Should we come
back to this, Yes, I gotta have. So I'll look
(10:21):
for a bit of advice from you two one person, Ruder,
father of two and I father of none. And but
but but recent most recently are teenager yourself? Yeah, yep,
and yeah, I'd like your advice on this. So my
son is recently he was went fishing and his phone
(10:43):
fell out of his pocket and oh, that's right, I
couldn't find it. No, there was that time it went
into the water. Yeah. Yeah, And so he lost that
phone because we freshed it out and it didn't work,
and then he got another phone, and then we waited
a while, probably about three weeks, trying and make him
kind of punish on and got another phone and he
(11:06):
has now lost that phone. Oh how thirteen.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
But I did this when I was thirteen. So I
saved up all my pocket money for years, a couple
of years and bought a cell phone. And I just
was not equipped to have it. I lift it on
top of the car one day, Mom drove down to
the supermarket and it fell off. Someone found it and
gave it to the cops and they rung us and.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
Yeah it was buggered.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
Well, I lift it in random places. I lost I
think I lost three three insurance claims from mum.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
Well he's normally pretty good, Like he's had a phone
for a couple of years and he's only lost it
in the last wee while. Yeah, but twice.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
It's just so easy to do at that age.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
Yeah, but okay, so what so I don't want to
I don't want to buy him another phone. Firstly, it's
too expensive. Yeah. Secondly, I want to teach him a
lesson about about losing things. Well, I think maybe so
I need because he is at boarding school. I need
to also be able to get hold of him because
there's no other phone.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
That's why I had run. Yeah. So, but well I
do well. I think you get his you get his
pickups up. He's not picking it up often enough, and
that's where he's he's leaving it and losing it. So
if you can get him up around the three or
four hundred pickups a day, then the chance of him
losing that away.
Speaker 1 (12:25):
Seems to lose it only when he's fishing.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
Have you ever lost your phone?
Speaker 3 (12:29):
No, I phone.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
I've it up two hundred times a day.
Speaker 3 (12:32):
I've damaged my phone quite badly a number of times,
but cracks drop it in my own urine.
Speaker 1 (12:38):
I'm thinking Nokia flip phone.
Speaker 3 (12:40):
Yeah, I was going to suggest he's really not.
Speaker 2 (12:43):
Nah.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
He sort of said that. It's basically, if you're running
a Nokia flip phone at the age of thirteen, every
one makes fun of you.
Speaker 3 (12:49):
The social Suicideah, you might lose it on purpose.
Speaker 1 (12:51):
Bro.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
When I was thirteen, if I had a nock your
flip phone, that's like top of the pops there.
Speaker 1 (12:56):
Yeah, I mean they didn't have phones.
Speaker 3 (12:57):
When I can I ask a question, Jary Beefully it's
not too personal. What sort of coin are you spinning
on phones?
Speaker 1 (13:03):
For you. Well, the last tie was like a second
hand like iPhone and eleven or twelve or something. It
was like the cheapest thing I could possibly get. Yeah,
you know had basically.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
Yeah, because back in my day it was still the
nock Here twenty to eighty. And in fact, my first
cell phone was an Alcaatel the Greensucker, all the aeril
out of it.
Speaker 3 (13:26):
Wow, one of those ones.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
Then I got the knock Here twenty to eighty, clickerly
clack on the buttons. We so the school teachers took
the took rugby balls off us at lunchtime because we
were ripping our uniforms. So we'd play rugby at lunchtime,
and you know, we'd all come in with ripped pockets
and shirts ripped and stuff. And they were like, we can't,
we can't have this, So they took the rugby balls
off us. We started playing rugby with nock Here twenty
(13:50):
two eighties. Instead of the ball. You could put that
thing as far as you could a Gilbert that's good,
and all that would happen is maybe the bettery would
come Out's good. It was quite fun. I remember distinctly
one day we're playing with one of the kids cell
phones and we're tossing around and started ringing and he
had to take a call from his master.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
That's good, Okay, So I'm not any closer to any
advice from you. Guys have actually proper practical advice is
what what? What should I do?
Speaker 2 (14:19):
I just think he might be too young, because I
remember at that age I was losing the phone all
the time because you know, you're not thinking about it.
And actually maybe that's a good thing, because he's, you know.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
He's definitely thinking about it the whole bloody time. He's
not way too much. I reckon. It's it's it's slightly
ADHD spectrum, which you were on. Well.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
But I also wonder if he.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
Loses lots of stuff all the time.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
Because you know how people are like, oh yeah, add
wasn't around when I was a kid, blah blah blah,
so cell phones went around. I don't know if there's
more people with various different things, or you just your
brain's not designed to have the entirety of human information
beamed into your fucking head. Twenty four hours of.
Speaker 1 (14:55):
Oh man, I reckon, cell phones are causing a huge
spike in.
Speaker 2 (14:59):
That my my attention spent so cool. Yesterday I tried
to watch them. Well, I did watch a movie on
the couch and I just found myself picking my phone
up and then look back at the TV and I'm like,
what's going on in this movie?
Speaker 1 (15:09):
Just put the phone? I reckon as well. If you're
tired slash hungover, then you will pack up your phone
way more as well. It's just like a boom boom.
It's like your brain just does the easiest, most basic thing.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
I did it again last night watching the Grand Final.
The group chat was firing up, and so I was like, oh,
what are the fellas reckon about the game?
Speaker 1 (15:27):
Now?
Speaker 2 (15:27):
All of a sudden, I'm on Instagram and I'm watching
someone else posting about the game. I'm fucking watching.
Speaker 1 (15:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (15:33):
A couple more questions regarding your son and his phone.
Does he realize how important it is to you guys
that he has one?
Speaker 1 (15:42):
Ie?
Speaker 3 (15:42):
Does he know that you know you want to keep
that contact with him and that's the best way of
doing it.
Speaker 1 (15:48):
Maybe?
Speaker 3 (15:48):
Yeah, I mean I don't.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
I don't think I don't really want to be in
contact with him that much.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
To be honest, you're not just asking him what's up?
Speaker 1 (15:56):
Random exactly like, nah, I mean you have have to
because he's away at boarding school. But I don't really,
I don't know, Like I don't I don't want to
talk to that much.
Speaker 3 (16:06):
And question number two, does he have any way at
the moment of making money, because I know your daughter
has currently got a job.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
Well, yes he has. Actually he well he can do
jobs and over the weekend he did, but that was
to pay something else off. So it's kind of like
which we had to buy for him because he lost.
So it's like, I don't know, I'm kind of I'm
sort of I'm hoping it's just a phase. But at
the same time, I want to make a good parenting
(16:35):
I don't want to like be an asshole. But at
the same time, I got to You've got to teach
your kids that the value of things and like, don't
lose things. And I think if you if you lose something,
you have to go with it, you have to go
without it.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
Oh yeah, well because that's how life works. Yeah, and
it sucks.
Speaker 1 (16:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
I'm trying to think because, like I said, I lost
mine like three times, and I I don't know, I
think it was it just took for me getting a
little bit older, but back then they didn't have social
media on that phones. It was literally just texting, although
I could download a polyphonic ring tone at that point
they were great Lincoln Park numb a numb polyphonic ring pack,
(17:13):
and then and then after that you could actually start
recording things and you could set that as your and
I had the intro to faint by Lincoln Park, the screeching.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
How into Lincoln Park? Were you very into? Linkin like,
you were really into Lincoln Park, weren't you?
Speaker 2 (17:29):
And I relapsed probably once a year into my Lincoln parkways,
but really passed my dad off Lincoln Park.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
We went over to the West Coast one time for
like a holiday, and I was texting all my mates
the whole way across. Then every single time I received
a text, the screeching strings from the start of Lincoln
Park Faint started on the text on the Yeah I didn't. Yeah,
I want to throw that thing out the window.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
I'm amazed he didn't.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
Oh he should have.
Speaker 1 (17:59):
I think I would have.
Speaker 2 (17:59):
Yeah, I just about did. But by the end of it,
how are you, dude?
Speaker 1 (18:07):
Oh that's quite good.
Speaker 2 (18:09):
Yeah, Hello, I'm just around at Piztez. Oh. Yeah, yeah,
I'll be I'm sure, sure that's good.
Speaker 1 (18:19):
How like budget was the sound.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
Of polyphonic ringtones. I don't even think mine was that good.
Speaker 3 (18:25):
It's not a bad one.
Speaker 2 (18:26):
And you used to sit there and flick through them
and used to buy them.
Speaker 1 (18:30):
You used to have to buy them.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
What ever happens to the polyphonic ringtone, man, we've we've
really lost our way.
Speaker 1 (18:35):
It'll come back, because they'll come back as a retrophone.
Speaker 2 (18:37):
Now because the only people that are still changing the ringtone,
I think most people have the default ringtone. Have either
of you has got a custom ring tone?
Speaker 1 (18:44):
I've got my mine's always on silent, yes, same.
Speaker 3 (18:48):
I can't remember what mine is now.
Speaker 2 (18:51):
But I've noticed the older boys, a lot of them
have that rock and roll thing. I don't have that
as their ring as a wedding down sound. A couple
of weeks ago and Georg the boat, Yeah yeah, yeah,
I heard a couple of different fune guys up there,
and then they answer it at a volume that is
so unreasonable to talk on a phone. So I do
(19:13):
just open the window here here. You don't need to
call them.
Speaker 3 (19:15):
Do you know what'd be really annoying to the listeners
of the radio show as if we ran top of ours,
we're just standard ring tones because they just think their
phone's fucking.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
Oh yeah or the alarm tone.
Speaker 3 (19:26):
Okay, we're funny, right.
Speaker 2 (19:29):
I will say, if you still listening to this podcast
at this point, I've just come across a post from
Charlie Brown. It was regarding the Austin City Limits podcast
that we talked about last week. They were talking about
some of the because there's about one hundred different artists
we're going there this weekend. So if you are familiar
with any of them, get onto it's Charlie Brown's post.
(19:49):
I'm sure he's a real person. Don't post if you're
an adult, because all ill here is. But get in
there with your reviews of some of the bands that
we should go to, because I think we haven't heard
the most a lot of the smaller ones.
Speaker 1 (20:03):
We started up on Friday, didn't we listening to different
bands and stuff like that.
Speaker 2 (20:07):
Yeah, So get your reviews and let us know which
ones we should go and see and we'll talk about
it tomorrow.
Speaker 3 (20:14):
I think this is mine that.
Speaker 1 (20:16):
I think that's mine too. What is that one called?
Speaker 3 (20:20):
It's called Reflection Default.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
Stop stop stressing out.
Speaker 3 (20:28):
This one was better.
Speaker 1 (20:31):
That's the ship alright,
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