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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Get a wounders. Matt Heath here, as we build up
to the final week of The Matten Jerry Show, the
Victory Lap slash mea culpa. I've put together a little
bit of a story of the history of the Matt
and Jerry Show and my time at Radiohodaki. You can
read it at Matt Heeath dot substack dot com. That's
Matt dot subsack dot com. Maybe you want to subscribe.
(00:21):
It can be free if you want. Anyway, Blessed, blessed, blessed.
Give them a taste of Kiwi. Love you all, see
you next week.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
All right, chick check one too, Get a ruder?
Speaker 1 (00:32):
Do we not even have the r Do we not
have it in here? I suppose we don't? Do we?
I mean we can do You want to do a manue?
Speaker 2 (00:38):
Well, the thing is is going to be one, you
know on the as we talk about war about to
do this week on the podcast point yeah, anyway, get
it is Meshy here and Ruder.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
We're just, yeah man, treading the boards this week.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
We're getting ready for the Meet and Jury Show Victory Lap,
which of course is commencing next week. It feels weird
to be back on the podcast.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
I have to say, it feels weird to be back
on the podcast.
Speaker 3 (00:59):
It feels weird to be warming up and a stopgap
measure type thing for what's coming next week, because I'm.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
Actually now that thing about it. I'm really excited about
next week.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
Yes, same, Yeah, it's one of those things. I think
we talked about it on the podcast last week that
it was genuinely.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
So sad last Wednesday.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
Yeah, man, And now we've had what's that, another couple
of days to get it in our heads. And if
you mister radio show this morning, and Mett Heath actually
came in for a very short amount of time.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
That's right.
Speaker 3 (01:29):
We haven't seen him for like five days, and god,
it was really frighteningly good to see you.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
Yeah, so nice to see him.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
So at the moment, myself and Rudor we're going to
be filling in on the hoech Root for show sixteen
weekdays on the film Dial or the home speaker or
whatever way you'd like to find us. We're not going
to be highlighting that podcast, not going to bother. We're
kind of too busying up the victory Leap next week,
and there's not a lot of you know, new or
fresh content going on. So we thought we would stick
to one podcast episode to day this week. And what
(01:57):
that's going to be is I've reached out to medi
Ruder asked him, you know what, Meddi, the bespokey dookies
are the ones that are going through it the most
at the moment. I think is that the biggest heartbreaks
that I've seen, especially on the Mattajury Show Facebook page,
which is called the Conclave. You're welcome to join that
if you haven't already. I'm in real that they are
the people that are hurting the most alongside you, and
I suppose m yeah, probably well, and probably met for
(02:17):
that matter. So I reached out to Meddie and I said, hey, mate,
any chance you could send me through about five episodes
It just come to mind. They might not be his
five favorites, but they just came to his mind and
bodies that he enjoyed doing. And I thought we could
replay those and then do a bit of an intruth
for them each day. If that works for.
Speaker 3 (02:33):
You, Yeah, I think that's a good idea. A couple
spring to mind immediately, Shall I say what they are?
Speaker 2 (02:39):
Shall I just seah, that's a good idea.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
So what ones do you like the most.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
Well, the first one that sprang to mind, because Matt's
an absolute sexual devient is the market to sad.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
Yeah, that is good, and I Will used that as
a replay in the past as well, and I think
I think we played that as a replay but over
the Christmas break last time, because people do always love
a market to say conversation. God, I haven't thought about
the market de sad in a while. He loomed large
over twenty twenty three than he for the mad Jury show.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
Yeah, he feels like a very tall individual. The market
just sad.
Speaker 3 (03:08):
A couple of people actually on the Conclave has suggested
the story about Matt shitting himself after the radio awards,
and we've started doing a bit of a deep dive
trying to find that not one hundred percent sure we've
got the right one.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
So if you go to the.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
Conclave on Facebook, the Madenery Facebook discussion group and just
let us know which.
Speaker 1 (03:27):
One is the right one.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
Yeah, because of course that I mean, that's slightly confusing
because did he shoot himself after the radio awards or
was that podcast after the Radio awards where he talks
about shitting himself.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
Here's a bit of a difference. I know what you
mean because I know when the Radio Awards were last year.
We could go back and find the date on that.
Maybe that's actually a place to start potentially.
Speaker 3 (03:47):
The other thing is you're incriminating a man by suggesting
he's shot himself more than once after the radio wards.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
Yeah, no, true.
Speaker 3 (03:54):
Oh, here we go, Here we go. This is from
a guy called John Tiffin. Yeah, shitting his pants when
almost home the night after the Radio Awards for starters.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
I thought there was.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
A story about Maddi shitting himself on the way back
from a yoga retreat or something like that.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
There was.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
There was also that one from his book that he
read and that wasn't Yes, that's true. No, it wasn't
him that shed on the couch. It is girl friend's
house or something, the in laws.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
Okay, But anyway, Maddie here seen through five podcasts, okay,
and we will have a chat each day beforehand. But
today's podcast is one that I thought was really sweet
that he mentioned. It is an episode from about a
Yogo When we reviewed the Greatest Night in Pop documentary
that came out about we Are the World A song
that you know looms large. Sorry used that phrase again
(04:40):
over the Matt and Jury Show for the last eleven years.
In fact, I think the only place growing up before
a week in the Matt and Jury Show. I think
the only time I really heard that song was on
the Matt and Jury Show. So it actually feels quite
full circle moment looking about this one.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
Looms large for you, then it.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
Looms large for me especially. Yeah, so I think we'll
play this one. This is a podcast from about Yogo
talking about the Greatest.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
Night and Pop.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
I was having to listen to it before, just to
make sure that, you know, a year ago, you know,
times change, making sure everything's still okay and good. Yeah,
everything's fine.
Speaker 3 (05:10):
Good idea, because we wouldn't want, you know, that stuff
to come out from that other one. Remember, Yeah, there'll
be the end of areas.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
All right, Time to get an eye you up, and
you suppose we'll pass you on to an episode of
the podcast from a year or so ago. Do enjoy,
and we'll be back tomorrow tuning from sixteen of course
if you want to hear myself and ready treating the boards.
But until then, thinking of all of you that are
going through it right now, as are we. And we're
all in this together.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
Aren't we. Yeah, it's like a threesome, you, me and
the listener.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
All right, let's kick it off.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
Let's get biz. It is the second to second twenty
twenty four. This is your daily Bespoke podcast. It's a
special edition as mentioned on the Conclave, the Met and
(06:19):
Jerry Show private discussion group on Facebook. Today is all
about the documentary The Greatest Night and Pop that's up
on Netflix at the moment. The greatest artists of a
generation came together to save some lives. Let's be in
a dream.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
But we only had one night to get this right.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
Let's get this party started. It was just a wish list,
so yes, without annoying, it was going to be honest.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
Bob Dylan, Stevie Wonder, Paul Simon, Cyndi lauper At Nitler,
Billy Georges, Steve Perry, Willie Nelson, I think we have
tea y, Diana.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
Everybody was there. So this is a real feather in
our cat this The Greatest Night and Pop being the
number one movie on Netflix globally at the moment. Because
we were on a limb when we did our live
podcast recording where we started and ended the show with
a rendition of where Are the World? People said we
were crazy, people said no one give a shit. But
(07:21):
then we noticed when we were doing the live podcast
record at the theater that people did care and they
did did sing where are the World. I feel like
we changed some lives actually that night. We did.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
Actually, I've actually got a bit of an apology to
make about this situation, because I felt for a long
time that I probably didn't appreciate this song as much
as I should have been a part of this show,
and you boys that often I thought might be the
only kind of bestions of this of this tune left
in you know, twenty twenty.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
Four custodians, would you call it?
Speaker 2 (07:48):
Yeah, custodians of this song? Is about the only two
people I know that are still talking about the.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
Song, well men. Jeremy famously met to the song at
a karaoke bar, yes when he was singing the song,
and I joined him on stage, and we change lives
that night.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
So that's beautiful, Just like these I don't know, fifty
odd yeah, thirty odd forty odd stars did yeah that
on that night of nineteen eighty five.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
Well did for January bespokes that are listening now, you
bespokey dokies, did you do your homework and watch the documentary?
That's a question I've got to ask for these people.
I did, I did, I did. Okay, So we've all
and so hopefully everyone listening has has watched it. If
they haven't, then they need to get around to watching it,
because it's it's a good time. Yeah. Some of the
main talking points Lionel Richie. What a great man Lionel
(08:33):
Richie is. He pulled the whole thing together. Not only
did he write the song with Michael Jackson and the
difficult circumstances being attacked at one point by one of
Michael Jackson's snakes, high time Pythion, also hosting the American
Music Awards and writing the song, and then just keeping
everyone together and being a peacemaker on the actual recording
(08:55):
day right through the night, being there right through till
when recording finished at eight am. Because it's a big.
Speaker 4 (09:01):
Night for those guys, because not only they go the
awards which finished at what ten pm or something, Yeah,
but then they recorded all night and quite difficult circumstances
because you were around a whole lot of people who
were amazing singers, so there was a lot of intimidation
in the room. I don't think Lionel was particularly intimidated
by any of the other stars. Line, it was a
(09:22):
massive star himself.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
Linel Richie felt like just one of those guys that's
just got a positive attitude towards life.
Speaker 4 (09:28):
And he had a good vibe going, and he was
making jokes that people said that about Linel Richie and
and someone else.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
Have you blasted him in the ass by blasting the ass,
I mean interviewed him.
Speaker 4 (09:39):
No, but Hillary has interviewed him, and he is one
of those guys, and she's got this theory. She reckons
that there is a level of star that when you
interview them, you realize they're actually quite phenomenal human beings
and they are always nice to you. And then there's
a level down which is not which are oftentimes kind
of assholes, and they're not quite the same. And he
(10:02):
is the kind of he as the kind of person
when you interview I'm with Heller anyway where he learns
the name of the person who's interviewing you and finds
out something about the person and he actually talks to
you like your.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
Enormous Hey, Hillary, so here you've got a hot husband.
Speaker 4 (10:16):
Yeah that's not what he said, but that sort of
vibe totally. But she said, yeah, he's he's like funny
and normal and he's a very talented individual obviously.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
And then Michael Jackson. I can't get out of Michael Jackson.
And it's caloss to get Lionel Richie on the show
to talk about this fucking documentary. Can we do that?
How do we do that? How do we all write
that might be able to do that? Yeah, because he
might be on the promotion for the Stocco at the moment,
I like to call him Leonel. Yeah, that is the
There was one part of the documentary documentary I didn't
understand is that Lionel Richie and Michael Jackson were good
(10:49):
friends because Lionel Richie had been the singer of the
Commodorees and Michael Jackson was the singer of the Jackson Vibe,
and they bonded in similar age I guess motown and
motown such and much like. And then the first time
Michael Jackson got a license, he drove around to a
line or Richie's house, and then later on he goes,
I'm going to go and record the song, write the song,
(11:09):
and he went round to Neverland, which is Michael Jackson's house,
and that's when he nearly got attacked by the snake
and Michael Jackson was getting him to pest around bubbles
and such, and then he goes, and then of what goes.
I realized we'd never spent time together before, and that
was the first time he'd been to Michael Jackson's house. Yeah,
But just earlier in the documentary was saying that Michael
Jackson used to drive around to his house.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
I assumed that that was about that. It was the
first time I've written together.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
But I might be wrong. Well, maybe that would make sense.
Maybe we was just slightly said wrong. We hadn't spent
time doing this before, yeah, or I hadn't spent time
around it never Land because.
Speaker 4 (11:42):
Michael Jackson just turns out he hums and makes noises yeah,
and linel of course as a virtuoso pianist, yeah, and
writes normally on the piano and also multi instrumentals.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
That's the real musicians blow my mind. Like say, for example,
Stevie Wonder was supposed to write the song, but didn't
write the song because he didn't answer the call. And
he turned up on the day to record it and
thought there was the writing day. Wonder is a bit useless,
it turns out, and Quincy took him down the hall
and said, hey mate, it's already been written then. And
Stevie Wonder was a bit cheeky about a few things,
and it was a bit of a troublemaker, but he
(12:14):
made a great joke at one point. Was what was
the joke about he goes line leading the blind? No,
I know there was one before that when Stevie yelled out,
he goes, you get that wrong again. Everyone that gets
it wrong, it gets driven home by me or Rachel
the whole of course, famously two blind people, Rachel's and
Stevie Wonder. Yeah. But then it's amazing how Stevie Wonder
(12:35):
could just sit down and immediately play the song and
a flourishes to it and play it in different styles.
He started playing it in the sort of Georgia on
my mind, Yeah, sort of soulful style. Yeah. So they
said that Stevie Wonder.
Speaker 4 (12:47):
I didn't realize this, but Stevie Wonder apparently a great
mimic and so he can he can mimic any other
singer's voice.
Speaker 1 (12:54):
The most heartfelt part of the documentary for me was
the whole Bob Dylan arc. So Bob Dylan turns up there.
He's not a He's not He's a great writer and
a superstar, you know, one of the most famous people
in the room, but not a great singer in the
sense that Lionel Ritchie or or Michael Jerry or Steve
Perry as And so you could see that not only
was Bob Dylan dangerously stoned, but also feeling quite uncomfortable.
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And then at that moment where he's trying to sing
it and he can't get it, and he doesn't even
know what he's supposed to do, and then Stevie Wonder
calls him over and then imitates Bob Dylan's voice and
vocal style to him, and then and then gets him
to do it and go, there's a judgement're making. Where's
Stephen or Lot to do? We make it better, just
(13:39):
you and me and does it in the Bob Dylan
style to fair Mesh does a very good impression of
Bob Dylan.
Speaker 2 (13:45):
Don't you make Yeah, that's true, but I was also
thinking at the same line of about you, I.
Speaker 1 (13:52):
Don't want to do it. Come on, Bob Dylan in Possession,
I don't really come on.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
Well, it's more of a visual thing because I usual
I impersonated when he's doing the chorus.
Speaker 4 (14:01):
Oh, just standing there, just looking forward, looking like he
would rather be us in the world.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
The Bob Dylan kind of actually made me the most
most emotional as well, because we've given him a lot
of stick on the show.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
Yeah, we have, and you kind of think when you're
watching it, Oh, he's hating it, and he thinks he's
better than that, And then you realize, no, he doesn't
think he's better than that. He knows he's not good
enough for it. He's not good enough to sing with
all these people. Yeah, And then and then he tries,
and they clear the whole room out, and then and
they just find a way. And then the way he
hugs Stevie Wonder for helping him. He doesn't get offended
(14:34):
that Stevie Wonders imitated him and told him how to sing.
It is that relief. He just goes thank you. He
he goes thank you, I can do this, because how
intimidating would.
Speaker 4 (14:42):
It be the fact that he decided at the end
he go you me instead of instead of doing it
in a normal kind.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
Of a way.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
I just thought it was funny because he always looked
like some invisible person was pushing his head backwards the
whole time.
Speaker 1 (15:06):
He was just so shocked at all.
Speaker 3 (15:09):
Of the people in their own when I thought, he
looks like constantly like someone's just pushing his here.
Speaker 4 (15:14):
Yeah, well, I got a bone to pick with you
actually met, because I remember when we talked about this
a while ago. You were on the case of Lauper
and you said, rubbish effort from you, Lauper. Oh, rubbish effort, Lapa.
What are you doing, Lauper? You've come in with your
wow wow.
Speaker 1 (15:30):
Whoa whoa.
Speaker 4 (15:31):
Let's you've come in with your woh woh wohs. You're
stealing the show. What are you doing, Lauper? Will you
revisit those comments that you made about Lapa after watching
the documentary.
Speaker 1 (15:39):
I'd like to walk back those comments about Lauper. I
thought it was a trouble maker and as a Quincy
Jones said, I don't want to walk back back, walk
back back, because then I didn't look so I was
watching it then I didn't realize how brilliant Quincy Jones
was and the people that put it together, that they
were making people be who they were, like the cartoon
version of themselves. So each solo was an opportunity to
(16:03):
show who they were, which makes total sense because he's
got these stars here. So Michael Jackson, so Michael Jackson,
and and Bruce Springsteen. He just finished the US Born
in the USA tour, so his voice was quite fucked,
but he was more Bruce Springsteen than Bruce Springsteen's ever been.
Bob Dylan was more Bob Dylan than Bob Dylan has
ever been. And Cindy Lauper was more Cindy Lauper than
(16:26):
she's ever been. And that was what they wanted. They
wanted everyone to step up and and then and that's
what the songs like you go yes yes, So Bruce Springsteen.
Speaker 4 (16:35):
Their bits are so there, buts and Tina Turner A
not a lot was talking about Tina Turner's role in that.
I thought she was outstanding.
Speaker 3 (16:44):
Yeah, Well, they said that they'd put her there because
she had such for a woman, she had such a
good lower range, and so she matched up really well
with Billy Joel, I'll tell her.
Speaker 1 (16:54):
What are there? Paul Simon and Kenny Rodgers. The harmony
that they hit on the greatest gift of all so beautiful,
you know, after and it's time to lend a hand.
Speaker 5 (17:05):
The greatest gift of Yeah it's nyl in that but
as well, oh yeah, because it goes Lionel Richie, then
Stevie Wonder, then Paul Simon, then brilliantly, Paul Simon and
Kenny Rogers together brilliantly, And good on Kenny.
Speaker 1 (17:19):
Rogers for wearing the shirt. And now Diana Ross. Good
talking about Diana. Kenny Rodgers had a good time that
Kenny Rodgers a fan of the Nose guy.
Speaker 2 (17:30):
It was laying it was.
Speaker 4 (17:34):
He turned up and yeah, it was like it was
like he drove himself in like a Japanese hatchback.
Speaker 1 (17:41):
And so and so the two people that drove themselves
for Bruce Springsteen. He just pulled up in some pretty
average just crossed the road and jumped out and found
a park.
Speaker 4 (17:52):
Some people tuning up and Lamos Kem Khan stand up
in a lomo, a massive line of nose kinds.
Speaker 1 (17:57):
Yeah, Keim Karn It was almost like limo almost lowered
you didn't it, Yeah, a limo like the really kick
ass perform was like Bruce Springsteen. And also Quincy Jones
drove there. We didn't drive. He was driven, but he
was just in his car.
Speaker 4 (18:13):
Apparently the limoso were waiting at the outside of the
AMAS to pick them up and take them to that
particular location. So I guess some people were probably on
the back of a couple of drinks or whatever. In
those days you could drink drive though quite a different
sort of a quite a different thing. But Dinah Ross, yeah,
who arguably has one of the greatest voices. I love
Diana Ross's voice. And she was wearing the T shirt
(18:35):
much like much like Kenny, You're getting on board, and
Dinah didn't want to leave. At the end of it,
she was in tears because she said it was one
of the great she wants. She said, I don't want
this night to end. That's a woman who understands, has
a sense of history and had been around for a
long time, and she goes, you know what, this is
(18:55):
gonna be hard to better. She understood the gravity of
the event.
Speaker 1 (19:00):
And another brilliant piece from Quincy Jones was getting Bruce
Springsteen to be the the cheerleader, he said, of the choruses. So,
Bruce Springsteen's done, and you got that voice coming to
the chorus. So so gravelly, you know when he was like,
cut cuts, we are.
Speaker 4 (19:19):
Because because the great thing about that is it's kind
of the anti it's the anti chral singing. You know,
you could never sing like that in a choir. No,
you would stand out like dogs balls. And so that
was a great thing about that. A ranger, yeah who
I can't remember his name now, but he would work
with Quincy Jones. Yeah, and he just went he listened
(19:40):
to all those things, and okay, I've got a big
con it's all about contrasts.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
That song other brilliant stories. I liked that they used
Daryl Hall. But they didn't let that piss anywhere near
the mine. No, they didn't. They didn't.
Speaker 2 (19:52):
I was quite intrigued by that, and I was wondering
if you there was a question that I had written
under my notes, is do you know what the situation
was there? Was he more famous out of the two
at the time, or was he the only one that
can sing well?
Speaker 1 (20:02):
He was the singer normally. Yeah, Okay, So Oats was
allowed to be in the chorus only just so Oats
was there in the course. You can't see him in
the photo because he's he's so sure that its was
there early. But did the Oats storm out? Because when
Darryl Hall was given. But if you just believe, there's
nowhere we can find.
Speaker 4 (20:22):
Why wasn't Lindsay Buckingham from Fleetwood Matt given any of those?
Speaker 1 (20:26):
Why would why would Elderro get a bit? Fuck Aldiou
and over and over he fuck that drunk piece of ship, Eldero.
The only thing he's ever done is I'm sorry, I'm
strying to get angry about.
Speaker 2 (20:39):
While you seage that up. Can we just take a
quick break and we are going to come back to
this in just a moment, and we're back in matter.
I think it's still switching up that one thing that
Aldirow has ever done.
Speaker 1 (20:54):
And I don't even know if this is Ldro, but
but I feel like it might be the song here.
Oh that's a pretty good job.
Speaker 2 (21:05):
This is quite good. This is a good tune. Actually,
I'll take everything back Une, drink all the wine you want, mate.
He did he was on the past, wasn't he? And
Lea now had to stop giving him the wine.
Speaker 1 (21:18):
Is that right? Sure? Yeah? Ja, oh my god, I
go Giro settled down.
Speaker 2 (21:31):
I do have to say though, Giro's part in the
song is one of the parts that probably halts the
most for me. His voice is quite bizarre, and he
gives it a little bit too much. He really doles
it up to one hundred and twenty on that one.
Speaker 1 (21:44):
I've got a question for the conclave, which is US
and the also the Facebook group if they want to
discuss that. Yes, but do you think that was cleaned
up and washed up? Because could you seriously have that
many rock stars and pop stars, superstars in a room
at the Nose kai being all over the especially since
(22:05):
they were.
Speaker 4 (22:05):
There all night. You had a couple of hero and
addicts in there. So you had Ray Charles, yeah, famous
hero and addict and at the time was still on
the junk.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
Who else did you have? Bob Bob Dylan was here.
Speaker 2 (22:19):
Ridden spake or not? Boyl yeah, Founds yeah, always on
the Maners, Yeah, Buckingham.
Speaker 1 (22:27):
Was on the massively on the nose Kuy, So I
think that part of it must be cleaned up. You
know that Kenny Rodgers wasn't on the nose, kay, the
way he laid into that burger when the food came out.
You know, no one on nose kai has even been
that night. But famously Kenny Rodgers did enjoy the nose
kind in his day. But I think that night, the
way he laid into that burger, I don't think he's
a nose that.
Speaker 4 (22:47):
Night, nobody And I think I am claiming racism here.
Nobody's mentioning Dion Warwick.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
Now I don't know a lot.
Speaker 4 (22:57):
She has a great part in it. I think her
bit is one of the but it's in one of
the greatest voices of all time. Dion war God alternative,
take on it.
Speaker 1 (23:07):
In your heart. I'm better than you because I like
deon ward. Well, then she came with Willie. They put
Willie with the weird and Willie, how fucking you man.
Wie Nelson's got the best voice in the world, Bloody weird. Okay,
(23:27):
that's what I'm saying. It's not a classic voice. You
can take chemic Spanish angels and shove them up your
ass if you're gonna keep talking like that blue guy
shouting on me blues. It does sound like he.
Speaker 5 (23:44):
Was.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
There was a whistle for I've never understood that this
is always a whistle.
Speaker 1 (23:48):
How come out. He's on the manas big time. I
want to I want to talk about b J blow jobs.
Speaker 2 (23:54):
That's a different moment. We should probably keep it on
the topic of this documentary.
Speaker 1 (23:57):
No mash and I can see how you made that mistake,
and I probably shouldn't be more clear that I was
talking about Billy Joel. Billy Joel was just didn't get
he was just shoved up the ars teen attorney.
Speaker 4 (24:07):
I can tell you why, because actually, when you listen
to the lineup of all those other voices, he's pretty
I love Billy Joe, great voice, great songwriter, all that
sort of stuff, huge commercial success. But when you look
at those other people, his solo and amongst the lot
is pretty nondescript.
Speaker 1 (24:24):
It's pretty standard.
Speaker 4 (24:25):
You know. It doesn't have the same character that a
lot of those other voices have, right, I reckon, But
they needed to put him in there because he was
at the time, he'd just done Uptown Girl.
Speaker 6 (24:36):
He was big.
Speaker 2 (24:37):
Yeah, yeah, I can we talk about maybe one of
my favorite kind of character arcts of the whole thing,
and that was the Huey Lewis situation.
Speaker 1 (24:46):
Yeah, what a story to get huy Lewis on the podcast.
Huey Lewis seems like a great interview subject. He would be.
I would love to have Huey Lewis. The news can
fuck off? How big is the news?
Speaker 2 (24:59):
How many members are in the news one.
Speaker 1 (25:01):
Five the news? But like Huey Lewis, we seemed such
such a good guy and podcasts and interviews. Have you
seen him recently? He did that? You know, there's that
scene in American Psycho that talks about Huey Lewis and
the news that you know, the albums and and and stuff.
He's done the reverse of it. That's really good. Well
what's that? Well, he's in the in Patrick Bateman's apartment,
(25:25):
can get Yeah's go back to what you're saying.
Speaker 2 (25:27):
Mass So Prince obviously wasn't able to make it. He
just clean swept the American Music Awards, essentially beating out
what was pretty much him and Michael Jackson up for everything.
Speaker 6 (25:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (25:39):
Yeah, and of course it's humanly had himself go watch
the doc I he hadn't seen it him up because
this is just just to see Prince's bodyguard is enough
to watch this?
Speaker 1 (25:48):
I love Prince's bodyguard. It was like this giant hell
billy that was like so huge and a pair of
was he in I can't quite remember, but he was
he in overalls?
Speaker 2 (25:58):
Yeah, keep along on the front, like in front of
an egg cut and or something like.
Speaker 1 (26:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (26:02):
He was a real Hilbally looking dude. But then Huey
comes along. Who was it that Matt that referred Quincy
to Huey to be like, hre, we can do that part?
Speaker 1 (26:12):
Yeah, yes, I think it was. Was it his was
it his arranger or someone someone Someone went up and said, Hugh,
he's got a voice. You want to put Huey in there.
You're not really here.
Speaker 4 (26:21):
If you were a true Huey Lewis and a News fan,
then you would be all over this. There is a
new musical out called The Heart of Rock and Roll,
which is the story of Huey Lewis and the News.
Is it playing Parmas North on New Plumouth or anywhere
at the moment, but it is playing on Broadway really
hard rock and rule.
Speaker 1 (26:40):
But yeah, so that arc to go back to what
I was saying. The art sorry, it was Kenny Loggins
was the one that suggested so he said, because seems
like quite a different voice from what Prince would come
in with.
Speaker 2 (26:54):
And it's quite up there that line, is it?
Speaker 1 (26:57):
It's high. Huey Lewis was suddenly shitting his pants nervous
because he was just in the chorus and suddenly he
had been he had been updated to doing the Prince line,
and so was the Prince line. It was supposed to
go either side of Michael Jackson.
Speaker 3 (27:12):
Wasn't it So Michael Jackson, if you're down and out,
it seems no hope at all. And then Prince, if
you just believe there's no where we can fall.
Speaker 1 (27:18):
But yeah, he would know how Prince would do it.
But then the way Huey Lewis nails it, fuck he
now to know, yeah, and then and then to go
into that harmony straight after that, it's it's quite something,
isn't it?
Speaker 2 (27:31):
And then and Michael Jackson was probably one of the
most fascinating parts. Have we talked about earlier in the podcast.
Of course, he a couple of addictive personalities working on
this project, like very focused in terms of like Michael
Jackson and of Richie both had bigger and better things
probably going on that night, but they just were so
excited about this one thing. So they just threw their
(27:52):
entire evening into this, and Michael Jackson did even go
to the wards. He stayed behind and set up the
recording to Year with Quincy.
Speaker 1 (27:57):
Yeah, and that like five.
Speaker 2 (27:59):
Minutes of him sitting behind a microphone testing the microphone
levels with Quincy. And he does not hit a bung note.
Speaker 1 (28:05):
No, I don't know he's ever had a bung note.
I don't think it's possible. He is such a good
voteles those notes. I don't know.
Speaker 4 (28:14):
It's a stupid thing to say, but I think he
is that like that. It's not like he's making the sound.
The sound is part of him. The notes are part
of him. It's all part of the thing, and you
can't He's not like he's reaching for anything. It's just
is in them. And then when it comes out.
Speaker 2 (28:33):
Of him, and in fact that he's in terms of
the song itself in the final product, is he's not.
He doesn't really want to be a part of it,
like he's just got a he's just got a couple
of small bits.
Speaker 1 (28:41):
Really, he didn't want to be the theme of things.
Michael Jackson didn't want to be in it at all.
He just and he said he had to be talked
into it because he thought he was overexposed at that point,
so he had to be talked into it.
Speaker 4 (28:53):
He wasn't he at that point though. Nineteen eighty five
he was huge because he'd put Thriller out.
Speaker 1 (28:59):
He'd had the biggest self album of all time, biggest
selling album, and it's been huge since. He was really
small with the Jackson five.
Speaker 4 (29:04):
Yes, but I reckon peak Michael Jackson fame in terms
of his weirdness, and everybody were realizing who he really
was was probably nineteen eighty seven when he put Bad
out and after Bad, which was a massive album, not
a hugest th no, but a huge album.
Speaker 1 (29:22):
And he was.
Speaker 4 (29:23):
Everywhere at that point like he Yeah, he was, so
his star was still crazily, his star was still rising.
Speaker 1 (29:30):
In nineteen eighty five. It wasn't like he'd reached the peak.
I've got a question for you, why is James Ingram
such a big part of the whole thing. It's a
solo James Ingram. There was a couple of people someone somewhere,
Well soon that's somewhere, someone somewhere will soon make a change. Yeah,
I don't know what songs. Did he song? Well, he's
sung that somewhere out there from an American tale, But
(29:52):
there was with Linda Onstead. Yeah, so very little was
Where was Dolly? Well, Dolly just couldn't make it unless
he was so so he had he a minute. In
nineteen eighty two, he topped the US pop chart with
a song called Baby Come to Me, and he also
had I Don't Have the Heart another song. So maybe
he was big in the States but didn't really wasn't
(30:14):
as huge down here because I don't know about James Ingram.
Why was there? Earlier on in the documentary, someone says,
I was really insistent that dan Akroy'd be there. Yeah,
I think he was just on the box of the
agent that started putting it together with Lionel Richard. He look,
he I mean, can he sing it? How good was
I don't know. He's in the chorus, but I don't
(30:34):
know if he can. He can though, because he was
in the Blues Brothers situation, wasn't it. Yeah, But so
I guess that's why they got him in there. But
how good was Lionel Richie's manager to say, Look, we've
got a problem here. And took him on and made
him a superstar by saying, we need to make you
more famous than your songs. He said, your songs are
currently more famous than you are, and they did do
(30:55):
that because you were the Commodorees and everyone knew the songs.
Speaker 2 (30:59):
Like oh, and I would say now that he did
such a good job at that that you. I think
it's an additional piece of information for people like myself
who didn't live any would be like, oh, he was
also part of the commodore So yeah, amazing.
Speaker 1 (31:13):
So yeah, that's a That's a big move, isn't it.
Speaker 2 (31:16):
Yeah, because I didn't know that until you know, I
started caring about line of Richie because.
Speaker 1 (31:20):
Lone of Richie is kind of a strange looking guy,
like a good looking guy, but an odd looking guy.
Speaker 2 (31:25):
It worked from well, didn't it that?
Speaker 1 (31:27):
Yeah? Imagine, well blowjob looks. I wasn't going to say that.
Seems to be very blowjob focused this morning. Mesh Okay,
I'm going to go through all this everyone in the
other world, and then the panel has to say whether
they would orouldn't. And this is at the time of
the recorder. Wouldn't blowjob from this person any kind of
(31:51):
sex act or either they're doing a six act on
you or you're doing a sex act on the m
Okay A night with Okay great Linel Richie Yep, yeah, yeah, no,
Stevie wonder.
Speaker 2 (32:06):
I'm gonna be honest, it's going to be Paul Simon.
Speaker 1 (32:11):
Can he standing or sitting? What's the difference? He could
do a standing b J on you Okay, yep, that's
going about him.
Speaker 2 (32:19):
For the majority of the documentary, I was watching who
the fuck is this short? Pissed because I don't know
exactly what he looked like. And then he gives a
little bit tense about a harmony earlier in the thing.
Speaker 1 (32:30):
He's a guard, uncle, did you notice snow guard? No guard.
We're gonna have to move through this quickly, Kenny Rogers.
Speaker 2 (32:37):
Note for me, Jimmy you go, Kenny, Oh yeah, post
or pre surgery. No, this is at the time, yeah, absolutely,
Oh no, he's got that bed.
Speaker 1 (32:48):
Okay. James Ingram definitely out for me at the time.
All over for me apparently really hear him, muff really,
I didn't know that. Okay, Well that's no for t
for me. I didn't know about them. Billy Joel's also
big muff. No, no, his fingers yep, he only didn't
(33:09):
say big muff. Oh sorry, did you say hey muff? Yeah,
I'm fine with the herry muff. So I'll go yes
on Tina, and then I'm used you're Michael Jackson. Oh
the story, Yes, throw bubbles in it. I yes, you
(33:30):
can make some money out of them. Diana Ross. Absolutely,
I think we're all on board. Afterwards, I'd say my
number one pick. Actually, you'd smashed the back out of
deal war, couldn't you. No, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not.
Speaker 6 (33:42):
I love your voice, but decided on would Willie Nelson? God, no,
stink Elger Rode No, No? What about the boss.
Speaker 1 (33:57):
Terble? Really?
Speaker 2 (34:00):
If we talked about the Bosses episode, he had.
Speaker 1 (34:02):
A yeah, great zealand of the just a good bloke
Kinney Loggins. No, Steve Perry, No, Darryl Hall.
Speaker 4 (34:14):
If he climbed in your window late at night and
nobody knew, y you would hear about Huey Lewis.
Speaker 1 (34:20):
Yes, as long as the news didn't Pylon Sidney Lauper Absolutely,
get those bloody necklaces jingling crazy V. Don't put your
d in crazy V. That's crazy V.
Speaker 2 (34:34):
Are you sure you almost do it in.
Speaker 1 (34:37):
The jingle Jangles, you'd be caught up in the jingle
should scratch you wouldn't want to get to get a going, well, well,
help me? Should scratch you? All those chains again on
your penis. Kim cards, There's no reason for Kim Karns
to be there. I would with boys, Oh my god,
Turler clips of the gate Camp cards over. Bob Dylan.
Let's to know from me, Ray Charles know from me.
(34:59):
Dank would know from me. Harry Belafont a very good
looking man, I thought.
Speaker 2 (35:03):
Yeah, and a great man as well. I would make
love to Harry Belafonte, would you, Yeah, as opposed to
other people. You know I has met a little too before.
His not mine, you know, slammed the back out.
Speaker 1 (35:13):
He's not my type. Lindsay Buckingham, uh No, absolutely yeah.
Bob Galdoff, Bobdof apparently good in the SEC. I don't
know who Bill Gibson is. Why did Princess the News?
Was Bill Gibson from? He brought some some of the
news members of the News of Seawan Hopper. He's from
the News to be from the Warriors. Jackie Jackson, LaToya
(35:36):
Jackson Yep, yep, Sure Marlon Jackson know Randy Jackson, No
Tjo Jackson. Yes, was Randy Jackson there? So why know
to Marlon Randy but used to teach Marlon's a real piss.
Speaker 4 (35:47):
I don't why were they called Randy Marlon and then Michael.
Speaker 1 (35:52):
I don't know. Whalon Jennings he had a moment when
when Stevie Wonder was trying to put Swahili in there,
and there's these people pointed out it's Ethiopia that don't speaks.
Leave there. But Whaling he was the way from the
Confederate flag, was at the back, and he went, ain't
no good old boy?
Speaker 2 (36:09):
Was no non.
Speaker 1 (36:13):
Yeah, he realized that wasn't good for his image. But
I just think Whaling Jenes actually just wanted to get
home mid be the one underneath God, no big time
the rust on the roof and stand down below. But
I'm not sure. Okay, I tell you one thing for sure,
everyone's going to be agreement on this. John Oates, that's
a strong it's a solid note. Yeah you want oats,
(36:36):
so my wild oats with those would bite your cock.
Anita pointer, all of the pointers you could bundle the
pointer sisters and I'm in I didn't realize they were there,
but Pointer Sisters and yeah, they were all there and
finally and finally, and this is how we're going to
end this special Royal Inquiry into the Greatest Night and
(36:58):
Pop the Netflix sock entry. Would you hang out the
back of Smoky Robinson?
Speaker 4 (37:04):
Yeah, he's looking pretty good. Actually even now, why is
he looking so young? Smoky Robinson? That's some more of
the surgery mesh. So what was a Christian Smoky Robinson
last smoke?
Speaker 2 (37:15):
Up?
Speaker 1 (37:15):
The points of Sisters? Have you I see?
Speaker 2 (37:18):
Have you looked at the point of Yeah, because I
always measure them being hot, but they were hot.
Speaker 1 (37:23):
I think they're signing one too, three, five, five, six
seven at nine eleven twelve seven.
Speaker 2 (37:37):
Okay, what about Quincy. We're going to go through the
production team now.
Speaker 1 (37:40):
The lighting guy who couldn't see I'll tell you I
definitely have a hone on his daughter. Oh yeah, Rita James,
who's married to the lead singer of Vampire Weekend and
they've got kids. The daughter, Yeah, I always think about this.
I always think about the first day that the lead
singer Vampire Weekend went round to meet his new girlfriends
(38:02):
father and his father is Quincy Jones, the greatest music
producer of all time. What a what a geek out
that would be, especially if you're into music like you, Yeah,
you're a massive student of music like Vampire Weekend or
a very very musical band, you know, educated as well.
Maybe he's just using the door to Quincy. There were
(38:25):
accusations of that went they with not with him, but
who was one Michael Jackson, big fan of Elvis instead
of going with Lisa Murray. Yeah all right, all right,
then that was good. That was great, Thank you. Yep,
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Yeah.
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