July 3, 2024 • 20 mins
Today on the Daily Bespoke Podcast, Matt & Mash catch up with Richie Mo'unga ahead of the first All Blacks test this weekend, which of course, he is not playing in... But apparently, he's driving a bus?
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello, it's Matt Heath here with a massive self source.
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podcast for the fourth of July twenty twenty four inde
Penance Day. Jeremy's way is sick as a dog. He's
puking ever, it's coming out of both ends. It's disgusting
Tozzy's left him. She can't take any more of it.
He's not doing the show today, probably won't be doing
it tomorrow, and he won't be doing the daily Bespoke podcast.
He won't be doing the fian broadcast, won't be doing
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the radio highlights, he won't be on your home speaker,
he won't be on your iHeart radio, and he won't
be on the Daily Bespoke podcast. But me and MESHI
are going to hold your hand through this and make
it a very, very enjoyable time because we've got Richie Muwanga.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
We do have Richie Mulanga on the show today.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
The All Blacks and Crusaders number ten former number ten
I suppose yes, sorry, former number ten. He's been off
playing overseas. He's back though, and I'm gonna be hanging
out with them down in Dunedin, n because I'm heating
down there tonight for the All Blacks on on Sydney.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
Of course, he plays for the Tashiba Lupus Tokyo now
everyone making some sweet cash, making some because he's he's
bloody good, you know, like he's still it's not like
someone who's had his career and it was coming to
the end and so he was put out to pasture
no to make some money in a less of league.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
If he was still with the All Blacks, he be
he'd be selected right now.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
It's not really the way sport's going, is it. It
feels a lot like in right Across Codes in New Zealand.
It's the first half of your career you kind of
you focus on the international side of the game, and
then the second half is you focus on the money.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
Well, you've got to make the money because official sports
men or women. Then you're you're your window of making
money is not long. You know, it might be it
might be five years, it might be ten years. You know,
if you're really lucky, you're one of those those dudes
that goes for like, you know, fifteen years or whatever.
But you've got to make your money, so you cannot
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blame them, you know, getting out when they are worth
a lot of money. Getting out of the international game.
You've done a lot for your country. You get out
when you're still worth all of a lot of money
and you can spend five years making some serious cash
for your family. That can set you up for life.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
There's a couple of things that I want to ask
Richie today. One is about the tucking jersey that he operates.
It's been causing a lot of problems in relationships for
the last couple of years here in New Zealand. He's
a good looking man, Richie, and he likes to tuck
in his jersey. I want to ask him where did
that start?
Speaker 1 (03:21):
Was it a lady?
Speaker 2 (03:22):
Was it for the ladies or was it just like it?
Was it a practical thing, like you said when you
find out Iver Davies is fan. Was a practical fan,
not actually to just blow the mullet and the shoe
on shit. And I also want to ask him, what
does it feel like watching the Illbecks play when you
could be playing for the All Blacks?
Speaker 1 (03:39):
Yeah? Yeah, because that would be interesting, wouldn't You're on
the sideline and you're good to go and you can't
influence it. You know, that must be really really interesting.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
I reckon it's tough, man, I think. I mean, we're
about to find out, aren't we. But something would tell
me if you're a competitive person, not playing a sport
that you're good at would be quite tough to watch.
I think, well that's my assumption anyway, And it's going
to be interesting the next couple of days. And we
should also ask him about raisho isdn't we.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
Yeah, Well, one of the reasons why we're talking to him.
Is the Export Ultra Pregame Express in Dunedin. Yeah, you
can join the Alternative Commentary collective team for the biggest
pre match party in town. That's me, Manyah and g
Lane will be down there and some others. Saturday six
to Jui, I get to the Kensington from midday on
game Day for epic drink specials and live music from
Mitch James to set the Perfect five. Plus you'll get
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a free ride to the stadium on Richie's Export Express
with the one on only Richie Muanga will be actually
driving the bus to get you to the freaking ground.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
So he's gonna have to stay off the beers. Obviously
he'll be stelling staying away from the.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
Exported Ye're true, slightly different down there.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
That is a bit different down there. Is he picking
you up from the port port? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (04:47):
Yeah, he's picking us up. Yeah, the poor guy. Hang
on a minute, there's the Ultra pre game weekend. I
think we're doing two pre games.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
I'm not sure you're not talking about because I also
understanding that you've got a pre game next week for
the Auckland game as well that I'm going to.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
Yeah, yeah, okay, so maybe but Dnedan' is the town
for ripping it up, especially in winter. People are really
ready to ready party that they can party the whole weekend.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
We should ask Richie about that too. Obviously he's not
on a sports trip. Where is he looking at hitting
this weekend? He's really looking to tear it up. Yeah,
the octagon a new one. Oh, he'll absolutely be ripping
the octagon a massive new one. Is he a bit
of a he?
Speaker 1 (05:28):
Is he scrappy?
Speaker 2 (05:29):
We can ask himhen he gets he Is he looking
for fights?
Speaker 1 (05:31):
He seems like the most upstanding individual, seems like the
most ridiculously upstanding individual.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
Has he ever done anything wrong?
Speaker 1 (05:38):
I don't think he's ever put a foot wrong.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
Maybe maybe we ask him. I see Ruds dialing him
up right now, let's bring him on. You have to
introduce me, by the way, I've.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
Never met him either, Okay, so maybe i've interview once
we met him. Okay, I've never met Richie Wing. So
we're gonna We're going to meet him now. There's what
Ruda do is he tries to create a relationship with
their with our super stock GISTs on the phone before
he puts the through. So trust it. So right now,
Ruda is involved in Studio B with with a bit
of a pre chat.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
About Ruder though, is he's far more he's a little
bit better at it than previous people who were kind
of just would sit out there and apologize for us.
Speaker 1 (06:14):
Oh yeah, yes, it's wrong than anyway. Okay, let's fire,
Bring on the great Richie Muang a good morning.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
Good morning everyone, Richie?
Speaker 1 (06:22):
Are you there? Where are you? Are you down and
Donners yet?
Speaker 3 (06:26):
No, I'm not. I'm actually appearing for the weekend in
Gold Coasters.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
Actually, okay, sorry Richie. By the way, it's Mash and
Matt here today, Jerry is the way. Thanks for having
a chat to us. First and foremost, So what what
what are you up to? Sorry?
Speaker 1 (06:43):
Mate?
Speaker 2 (06:43):
So you are you in needon already?
Speaker 3 (06:46):
No, I'm not. I'll make surely I'm in gold Cluest
at the moment.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
Soon you can fly? Can you fly direct from the
Goldie to Dunners?
Speaker 3 (06:57):
No you can't.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
You can that's bloody Yeah, that is annoying.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
Probably not annoying for the Gold Coast residence, but a
shame for the Donners foks.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
Well, I'm just looking at what you're up to this weekend.
It's going to be an interesting weekend for you, of
course because you're able bodied number ten obviously playing in Japan,
but you're going to be sitting at for South Bar
Stadium watching the All Blacks play. That's going to be
an interesting experience for you.
Speaker 3 (07:23):
Yeah, it is. It's actually it's going to be weird.
But I'm just going to be a fan just like
it right now, and I'm probably just going to be
as even more excited, to be honest, than the opportunity
I get to have was Export Ultra and Richie's bus.
I'm going to be taking fans from Kingington Sports Bar
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down to for South and it's just going to be
an awesome time.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
Is this something that you've that you take pride in, Richie? Like,
do you I don't know, if the if the family
is going on a road trip or something like that.
Do you like to drive? Is there something that you
enjoy driving people around, pointing things out out the window.
Are you going to be doing I don't know, there's
the optic in for the people in the back of
the bus or is it just more of a streamlined
approach just get them from the bar to the game.
Speaker 3 (08:06):
No, No, this is it's my job, my sole purpose
on surveys make sure that everyone has the most fun
and they are prepped as best as they can be
for the All Blex game. I know how important letters
to them and also how important letters to the players
as well, so I can't win well.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
Mis some advice I've got to you, Richie, people need
to stand behind the line because you could get absolutely
punished while you're trying to drive a bus with some
horrific code chat.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
What I will say, Richie is as watch out is
because a lot of us from radio headache in the
ACC when we've had a couple of beers, we like
to tell people that have played the game to a
very high standard how rugby works and what we think
the best way to play this game is. So I
just prepare yourself for quite a lot of punishment on Saturday,
especially when it comes to Cocha and how we think
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the game should be played.
Speaker 3 (08:59):
No, I don't worry. Honestly, years of years and years
of this and I have family members that that's the same.
I'm really from this moment.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
Actually, I've definitely woken up after a few beers and
remember talking to I've punished Karen read with some CoA
chat over the years. Zs for sure. He just sits
there and glazes over and go mate, you know absolutely nothing. Now, okay,
this is this is imagine a scenario, an unfortunate scenario
with Damien McKenzie practicing under the high ball accidentally goes
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head to head with body Barrett. They're both hr they're
both knocked unconscious. Is there a world where you could
be throwing the jersey and jumping in the unfortunate incident
of two of those two number ten's going down?
Speaker 3 (09:47):
Look, I would like to think that I'll be the
next man up, I think. Unfortunately, unfortunately I'm not. There's
a there's a big playing group behind the people in
the twenty three and look, I've been on holiday for
the last month from Japan, so I'm nowhere near ready
to be able to perform for the All Blacks.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
To be honest, Now, I understand playing in Japan, there's
a lot of practice. What what is it like over there?
What's the routine like?
Speaker 3 (10:18):
Oh, it's awesome. It's the game is pretty fast that
there's lots of new challenges. But it's something pretty refreshing,
I'd say, And that's probably the best thing about it,
and you see a lot of Kiwis over there that
you you know, you haven't seen in years, and you
pop into you bump into everyone that you've forgotten about
(10:43):
that sort of left left over a couple of years ago.
So it's called to see all different Kiwi coaches, KIWI
players and even South African Australian. I think the competitions
are going to be growing even more than the next couple
of years.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
It must be an interesting thing because you know, you
you compete so hard against the South Africa, Australians and
English when the game, but once you retire often that
they can be great friendships, caren't they, Because there's very
few people in the world that have experienced what you
guys have experienced. You know, playing test test rugby.
Speaker 3 (11:13):
Yes, it's the same. You know, you sort of playing
rugby against Kiwi's Aussies, South Africans and you have this
perception of man, that guy seems like a bit of
a dickie. You know, the tensions are high and footy,
but every time you have a sit down and yarn
(11:35):
with them after a game a bear, you know they're
just the best blokes. And I think that's what. That's
the beauty of footy, you know, it brings you together.
You understand the pressures and womens that you're in and
the pressures of Treberline and being known from family, and
I think that's what bonds you know, you're closer to
the other footy players that are in the same journey
(11:57):
with you. So, yeah, you're right.
Speaker 2 (11:59):
So how does it work?
Speaker 1 (12:00):
Richie?
Speaker 2 (12:01):
Could you play a picture for me? Is there a
player I'm assuming South African here? Actually is there a
player that you've that you met or you grew up
playing against and you're like, oh my god, this this
guy absolutely sucks. Want to fuck this guy up? And
then you come along and you meet him, what ten
years later and you're playing for the same team in
Japan or whatever like that? Is there anyone like that
that it's that intimate where you've you know, you've actually
genuinely not liked them, and now you have to play
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alongside them.
Speaker 3 (12:24):
It wouldn't be like I would really dislike them. It'd
kind of just be like I didn't like his personality
or yeah, yeah, of course, and I'd say mine, why
mine would be actually a really close made one to
His name is Rica you like. I don't know if you.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
Yeah, of course.
Speaker 3 (12:47):
Early on, early on in my playing career when I
was playing against them, and I've seen him playing score
Tris and the way he'd celebrate like this. But you know,
as I just said, you know, play with them so
many years, we've been through sick and together. We're just
like the best of mates and we have so many
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things in common. And yeah, that's probably the example I
can think of at the moment.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
Well, Richie wanta so much, Thanks so much for talking
to us. You're a great New Zealand, absolute legend. We've
loved watching you over the years. The Crusaders this year
without you wasn't the same thing. But we're not going
to get into We're not going to get into that.
And just want to say, look, have you got your
big bus license?
Speaker 3 (13:34):
Yeah? I have. I have. You know I wouldn't be
doing this if I didn't.
Speaker 1 (13:39):
Okay, okay, okay, good to know. Years I say, Great
New Zealand, thank you so much for all you've done
for rugby and New Zealand and how much joy you've
brought to all of us watching you play. Great New Zealander,
and thanks so much for talking to us, and I
can't wait to punish you with some co chat on
Saturday night.
Speaker 3 (13:56):
Awesome fellas. No appreciate it, and thanks for having me.
Speaker 1 (13:59):
All right, see about it? By all right? What a
great man he's gone. He's gone, Richie chiem Wong is gone.
What a great man he is.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
He's quite in the pocket, old rich isn't he He
is not It is not overwhelmed by many things.
Speaker 1 (14:10):
No, he's not. I mean he's always He's always here
the crusader's front row. So a lot of his life
is persent, just just excelling behind a lot of protection.
I think, I think, I think that makes makes it
makes for a chill man.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
I like the idea that him and Rico started off
on the back foot because Rico the very first night,
I probably I was never going to say this to
Richie because he's a friend of Rico's and Matt, look,
I'd love to be a friend of Rico's. But the
very first night I came to Auckland, Yes, I went
out to town and it was a massive bral going on. Yeah,
and I peeled back the layers. I managed to cop
a bit of it. I thought Auckland was crazy at
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this I've never experienced anything like this before. And there's
fucking Akira and Rico just on the floor a long room, right,
just throwing hands with the boys. And I say, oh,
I can see why this type of.
Speaker 1 (14:55):
The brothers fighting each other finding other people.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
Yeah, I think they're fighting other people. I can't really
kind of make make out what was going on.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
Fights and pubs are so different from fights in normal places. No, no,
punches don't hurt. When they do hit, they slaps. People
end up lying on the.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
Ground and some are really that bloody, are they.
Speaker 1 (15:14):
Yeah, someone throws a haymaker missus by miles and you
know someone will what's uppercuts and you know it's it's
obviously not like UFC level fights. But then for some reason,
as soon as it goes outside, someone's shirt ends off,
coming off, always off, Yeah, and it's not always. You know,
you see the odd fight with a person rips their
shirt off for some reason at the start of the
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fight to sort of show that they're tough. But there's
the other ones when just in the fight, you know,
the shirt comes off and they're on the ground and
they're yelling, and yeah, there's nothing lamorous about a pub fight.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
Is there no, A lot of bit a lot of
kind of hold me back. Yeah, you know, a couple
of there's always a girlfriend in the middle something.
Speaker 3 (15:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
Yeah, Like I always expect, like you know, I can
get a bit lippy and and I always expect to
be held back anything with my arms about going hold
me back, boys, hold me back. Yeah no, No, they're
no mates there. And you know, if anything that look
they think I deserve a hiding, they might watch me
towards it to hold him back.
Speaker 2 (16:10):
Yeah, hold him back anyway.
Speaker 1 (16:14):
Okay, And I've just received a text from Jay wells, Okay,
what it is?
Speaker 2 (16:17):
So I hope today went well.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
He's sick at home the.
Speaker 2 (16:22):
Information about Tolsi leaving him. You mentioned that at the
start of the podcast.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
Oh shit, what It's a personal text that he sent
through a better woman. But I can't read it. She
can't read that. I can't actually can't read that. I
actually can't read that.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
Can you show me? And I won't say it out loud.
Speaker 1 (16:41):
I can't read that.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
No, you can't read that.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
I can't read that.
Speaker 2 (16:44):
You can't read that. It's a personal communicat Is he
just up and about texting you humorous? Things.
Speaker 1 (16:49):
Yeah, like humorous humanist sexual things.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
Have you going to take a day off?
Speaker 3 (16:54):
Mate?
Speaker 2 (16:55):
I want to hear that you are fucking beard.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
Red, mate, I want to hear that it's coming out
both ends and you've got to fibulator on you. You're
tied to a drip, you're getting a leg app amputated,
you've got sept semia, So why don't I hear alright?
Speaker 3 (17:10):
Then?
Speaker 1 (17:10):
Okay? Then alright? Then then that's a bit of a
shorter podcast, and we've done lately, but me and mash
If it's been all hence to the pump's doing the
Metingery FM broadcasts which you can now listen to right
now on the Radio Highlights podcast. So should we just.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
So many ad libs to record?
Speaker 1 (17:27):
Yeah, we've got so many bloody ads record.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
Do you remember back in the day when we used
to include these in the podcast? Yeah, we used to
record these and then I think was a pretty ser
at the time to go back and kind of eat
it them up and then send them to the clients.
It causes a few issues, I think with clients when
you're recording ads. Yeah, podcast, so we won't do it today,
but it's just reminded me of that time.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
Anyway, you might as well plug the fucking ACC wounder
that I'm going down to join the Alternative Commentary Collective
team for the biggest pre match party in town, the
Export Ultra pre Game Friday, fifth of July. Hang with
the ACC team from six pm at the Kensington to
knockoff week. It's good Saturday, sixth of July. Get to
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the Kensington from midday on game day. What hey, this
is from Friday, fifth of July. I hang out with
what We're at the Kensington from six pm on the
Friday and then on Saturday. Get to the kens In
from midday on game day for epic drink specials, live
music from Mitch James to set the perfect vibes. Plus
you get a free ride to the stadium on Richie's
Export Express with the one and only Richie WI. I'm
making sure you arrive on time. So that's starting a
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bloody mid day on Saturday. Oh shit, mid day.
Speaker 2 (18:35):
I'm glad you're a toss kickoff seven next kickoff midday
and quickly before we leave. Actually, if Rico you are listening,
let me know how that scrap ended up in long
room bench. A lot of people were involved, recurn cure anyway, any.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
Of them for the Yeah, I just want to find
it when when the kickoff is for this game and
just how this fucking absolutely was not involved. This is
absolutely crazy that that pregame is starting at midday.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
It's the most acc it's the most.
Speaker 1 (19:02):
G lane bullshit ever. Yeah, as always kick off. It's
not an afternoon game. The kick off is at seven pm.
He wants people to go to the pub for seven
hours before the game. Mate, mate, No.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
No, So you're going to be at home smashing at
Bailey's in the bath till about four.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
Yeah, I'll be smashing beers in my hotel room until four. Now,
I'll be there. Okay, you'll be there on the bloody
here of the Dogs.
Speaker 2 (19:29):
All right?
Speaker 3 (19:30):
Then?
Speaker 1 (19:30):
Okay, then you're right then? All right? Are we all right?
Speaker 2 (19:33):
Okay?
Speaker 1 (19:33):
Then Richie Wine a great New Zealander. All right then okay,
sere the Kensington if you're in Dneda on bloody Friday
and bloody Saturday night. Jesus Christ, Hello, I'm Matt Heath.
You have been listening to the Matt and Jerry Daily
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Hello, it's Matt Heath here with a massive self source.
My number one best selling book, A Lifeless Punishing Thirteen
Ways to Love the Life You've Got, is out now.
It's the result of a deep dive I took into
how to deal with the emotions that make our lives
more punishing than they need to be. Karan Reid wrote,
Matt has a hilarious way of articulating an important message,
highly valuable advice for Anyone. Newsroom described it as good,
very good, indeed and under Jurisus dreamy well see had
(00:21):
met as a deep thinking, highly intelligent human being. The
number one best selling are Lifeless Punishing Thirteen Ways to
Love the Life You've Got is available in all good
bookstores now. It's good Buzzart It as the daily Bespoke
(01:02):
podcast for the fourth of July twenty twenty four inde
Penance Day. Jeremy's way is sick as a dog. He's
puking ever, it's coming out of both ends. It's disgusting
Tozzy's left him. She can't take any more of it.
He's not doing the show today, probably won't be doing
it tomorrow, and he won't be doing the daily Bespoke podcast.
He won't be doing the fian broadcast, won't be doing
(01:23):
the radio highlights, he won't be on your home speaker,
he won't be on your iHeart radio, and he won't
be on the Daily Bespoke podcast. But me and MESHI
are going to hold your hand through this and make
it a very, very enjoyable time because we've got Richie Muwanga.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
We do have Richie Mulanga on the show today.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
The All Blacks and Crusaders number ten former number ten
I suppose yes, sorry, former number ten. He's been off
playing overseas. He's back though, and I'm gonna be hanging
out with them down in Dunedin, n because I'm heating
down there tonight for the All Blacks on on Sydney.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
Of course, he plays for the Tashiba Lupus Tokyo now
everyone making some sweet cash, making some because he's he's
bloody good, you know, like he's still it's not like
someone who's had his career and it was coming to
the end and so he was put out to pasture
no to make some money in a less of league.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
If he was still with the All Blacks, he be
he'd be selected right now.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
It's not really the way sport's going, is it. It
feels a lot like in right Across Codes in New Zealand.
It's the first half of your career you kind of
you focus on the international side of the game, and
then the second half is you focus on the money.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
Well, you've got to make the money because official sports
men or women. Then you're you're your window of making
money is not long. You know, it might be it
might be five years, it might be ten years. You know,
if you're really lucky, you're one of those those dudes
that goes for like, you know, fifteen years or whatever.
But you've got to make your money, so you cannot
(02:52):
blame them, you know, getting out when they are worth
a lot of money. Getting out of the international game.
You've done a lot for your country. You get out
when you're still worth all of a lot of money
and you can spend five years making some serious cash
for your family. That can set you up for life.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
There's a couple of things that I want to ask
Richie today. One is about the tucking jersey that he operates.
It's been causing a lot of problems in relationships for
the last couple of years here in New Zealand. He's
a good looking man, Richie, and he likes to tuck
in his jersey. I want to ask him where did
that start?
Speaker 1 (03:21):
Was it a lady?
Speaker 2 (03:22):
Was it for the ladies or was it just like it?
Was it a practical thing, like you said when you
find out Iver Davies is fan. Was a practical fan,
not actually to just blow the mullet and the shoe
on shit. And I also want to ask him, what
does it feel like watching the Illbecks play when you
could be playing for the All Blacks?
Speaker 1 (03:39):
Yeah? Yeah, because that would be interesting, wouldn't You're on
the sideline and you're good to go and you can't
influence it. You know, that must be really really interesting.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
I reckon it's tough, man, I think. I mean, we're
about to find out, aren't we. But something would tell
me if you're a competitive person, not playing a sport
that you're good at would be quite tough to watch.
I think, well that's my assumption anyway, And it's going
to be interesting the next couple of days. And we
should also ask him about raisho isdn't we.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
Yeah, Well, one of the reasons why we're talking to him.
Is the Export Ultra Pregame Express in Dunedin. Yeah, you
can join the Alternative Commentary collective team for the biggest
pre match party in town. That's me, Manyah and g
Lane will be down there and some others. Saturday six
to Jui, I get to the Kensington from midday on
game Day for epic drink specials and live music from
Mitch James to set the Perfect five. Plus you'll get
(04:26):
a free ride to the stadium on Richie's Export Express
with the one on only Richie Muanga will be actually
driving the bus to get you to the freaking ground.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
So he's gonna have to stay off the beers. Obviously
he'll be stelling staying away from the.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
Exported Ye're true, slightly different down there.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
That is a bit different down there. Is he picking
you up from the port port? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (04:47):
Yeah, he's picking us up. Yeah, the poor guy. Hang
on a minute, there's the Ultra pre game weekend. I
think we're doing two pre games.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
I'm not sure you're not talking about because I also
understanding that you've got a pre game next week for
the Auckland game as well that I'm going to.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
Yeah, yeah, okay, so maybe but Dnedan' is the town
for ripping it up, especially in winter. People are really
ready to ready party that they can party the whole weekend.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
We should ask Richie about that too. Obviously he's not
on a sports trip. Where is he looking at hitting
this weekend? He's really looking to tear it up. Yeah,
the octagon a new one. Oh, he'll absolutely be ripping
the octagon a massive new one. Is he a bit
of a he?
Speaker 1 (05:28):
Is he scrappy?
Speaker 2 (05:29):
We can ask himhen he gets he Is he looking
for fights?
Speaker 1 (05:31):
He seems like the most upstanding individual, seems like the
most ridiculously upstanding individual.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
Has he ever done anything wrong?
Speaker 1 (05:38):
I don't think he's ever put a foot wrong.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
Maybe maybe we ask him. I see Ruds dialing him
up right now, let's bring him on. You have to
introduce me, by the way, I've.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
Never met him either, Okay, so maybe i've interview once
we met him. Okay, I've never met Richie Wing. So
we're gonna We're going to meet him now. There's what
Ruda do is he tries to create a relationship with
their with our super stock GISTs on the phone before
he puts the through. So trust it. So right now,
Ruda is involved in Studio B with with a bit
of a pre chat.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
About Ruder though, is he's far more he's a little
bit better at it than previous people who were kind
of just would sit out there and apologize for us.
Speaker 1 (06:14):
Oh yeah, yes, it's wrong than anyway. Okay, let's fire,
Bring on the great Richie Muang a good morning.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
Good morning everyone, Richie?
Speaker 1 (06:22):
Are you there? Where are you? Are you down and
Donners yet?
Speaker 3 (06:26):
No, I'm not. I'm actually appearing for the weekend in
Gold Coasters.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
Actually, okay, sorry Richie. By the way, it's Mash and
Matt here today, Jerry is the way. Thanks for having
a chat to us. First and foremost, So what what
what are you up to? Sorry?
Speaker 1 (06:43):
Mate?
Speaker 2 (06:43):
So you are you in needon already?
Speaker 3 (06:46):
No, I'm not. I'll make surely I'm in gold Cluest
at the moment.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
Soon you can fly? Can you fly direct from the
Goldie to Dunners?
Speaker 3 (06:57):
No you can't.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
You can that's bloody Yeah, that is annoying.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
Probably not annoying for the Gold Coast residence, but a
shame for the Donners foks.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
Well, I'm just looking at what you're up to this weekend.
It's going to be an interesting weekend for you, of
course because you're able bodied number ten obviously playing in Japan,
but you're going to be sitting at for South Bar
Stadium watching the All Blacks play. That's going to be
an interesting experience for you.
Speaker 3 (07:23):
Yeah, it is. It's actually it's going to be weird.
But I'm just going to be a fan just like
it right now, and I'm probably just going to be
as even more excited, to be honest, than the opportunity
I get to have was Export Ultra and Richie's bus.
I'm going to be taking fans from Kingington Sports Bar
(07:44):
down to for South and it's just going to be
an awesome time.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
Is this something that you've that you take pride in, Richie? Like,
do you I don't know, if the if the family
is going on a road trip or something like that.
Do you like to drive? Is there something that you
enjoy driving people around, pointing things out out the window.
Are you going to be doing I don't know, there's
the optic in for the people in the back of
the bus or is it just more of a streamlined
approach just get them from the bar to the game.
Speaker 3 (08:06):
No, No, this is it's my job, my sole purpose
on surveys make sure that everyone has the most fun
and they are prepped as best as they can be
for the All Blex game. I know how important letters
to them and also how important letters to the players
as well, so I can't win well.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
Mis some advice I've got to you, Richie, people need
to stand behind the line because you could get absolutely
punished while you're trying to drive a bus with some
horrific code chat.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
What I will say, Richie is as watch out is
because a lot of us from radio headache in the
ACC when we've had a couple of beers, we like
to tell people that have played the game to a
very high standard how rugby works and what we think
the best way to play this game is. So I
just prepare yourself for quite a lot of punishment on Saturday,
especially when it comes to Cocha and how we think
(08:57):
the game should be played.
Speaker 3 (08:59):
No, I don't worry. Honestly, years of years and years
of this and I have family members that that's the same.
I'm really from this moment.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
Actually, I've definitely woken up after a few beers and
remember talking to I've punished Karen read with some CoA
chat over the years. Zs for sure. He just sits
there and glazes over and go mate, you know absolutely nothing. Now, okay,
this is this is imagine a scenario, an unfortunate scenario
with Damien McKenzie practicing under the high ball accidentally goes
(09:32):
head to head with body Barrett. They're both hr they're
both knocked unconscious. Is there a world where you could
be throwing the jersey and jumping in the unfortunate incident
of two of those two number ten's going down?
Speaker 3 (09:47):
Look, I would like to think that I'll be the
next man up, I think. Unfortunately, unfortunately I'm not. There's
a there's a big playing group behind the people in
the twenty three and look, I've been on holiday for
the last month from Japan, so I'm nowhere near ready
to be able to perform for the All Blacks.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
To be honest, Now, I understand playing in Japan, there's
a lot of practice. What what is it like over there?
What's the routine like?
Speaker 3 (10:18):
Oh, it's awesome. It's the game is pretty fast that
there's lots of new challenges. But it's something pretty refreshing,
I'd say, And that's probably the best thing about it,
and you see a lot of Kiwis over there that
you you know, you haven't seen in years, and you
pop into you bump into everyone that you've forgotten about
(10:43):
that sort of left left over a couple of years ago.
So it's called to see all different Kiwi coaches, KIWI
players and even South African Australian. I think the competitions
are going to be growing even more than the next couple
of years.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
It must be an interesting thing because you know, you
you compete so hard against the South Africa, Australians and
English when the game, but once you retire often that
they can be great friendships, caren't they, Because there's very
few people in the world that have experienced what you
guys have experienced. You know, playing test test rugby.
Speaker 3 (11:13):
Yes, it's the same. You know, you sort of playing
rugby against Kiwi's Aussies, South Africans and you have this
perception of man, that guy seems like a bit of
a dickie. You know, the tensions are high and footy,
but every time you have a sit down and yarn
(11:35):
with them after a game a bear, you know they're
just the best blokes. And I think that's what. That's
the beauty of footy, you know, it brings you together.
You understand the pressures and womens that you're in and
the pressures of Treberline and being known from family, and
I think that's what bonds you know, you're closer to
the other footy players that are in the same journey
(11:57):
with you. So, yeah, you're right.
Speaker 2 (11:59):
So how does it work?
Speaker 1 (12:00):
Richie?
Speaker 2 (12:01):
Could you play a picture for me? Is there a
player I'm assuming South African here? Actually is there a
player that you've that you met or you grew up
playing against and you're like, oh my god, this this
guy absolutely sucks. Want to fuck this guy up? And
then you come along and you meet him, what ten
years later and you're playing for the same team in
Japan or whatever like that? Is there anyone like that
that it's that intimate where you've you know, you've actually
genuinely not liked them, and now you have to play
(12:22):
alongside them.
Speaker 3 (12:24):
It wouldn't be like I would really dislike them. It'd
kind of just be like I didn't like his personality
or yeah, yeah, of course, and I'd say mine, why
mine would be actually a really close made one to
His name is Rica you like. I don't know if you.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
Yeah, of course.
Speaker 3 (12:47):
Early on, early on in my playing career when I
was playing against them, and I've seen him playing score
Tris and the way he'd celebrate like this. But you know,
as I just said, you know, play with them so
many years, we've been through sick and together. We're just
like the best of mates and we have so many
(13:07):
things in common. And yeah, that's probably the example I
can think of at the moment.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
Well, Richie wanta so much, Thanks so much for talking
to us. You're a great New Zealand, absolute legend. We've
loved watching you over the years. The Crusaders this year
without you wasn't the same thing. But we're not going
to get into We're not going to get into that.
And just want to say, look, have you got your
big bus license?
Speaker 3 (13:34):
Yeah? I have. I have. You know I wouldn't be
doing this if I didn't.
Speaker 1 (13:39):
Okay, okay, okay, good to know. Years I say, Great
New Zealand, thank you so much for all you've done
for rugby and New Zealand and how much joy you've
brought to all of us watching you play. Great New Zealander,
and thanks so much for talking to us, and I
can't wait to punish you with some co chat on
Saturday night.
Speaker 3 (13:56):
Awesome fellas. No appreciate it, and thanks for having me.
Speaker 1 (13:59):
All right, see about it? By all right? What a
great man he's gone. He's gone, Richie chiem Wong is gone.
What a great man he is.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
He's quite in the pocket, old rich isn't he He
is not It is not overwhelmed by many things.
Speaker 1 (14:10):
No, he's not. I mean he's always He's always here
the crusader's front row. So a lot of his life
is persent, just just excelling behind a lot of protection.
I think, I think, I think that makes makes it
makes for a chill man.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
I like the idea that him and Rico started off
on the back foot because Rico the very first night,
I probably I was never going to say this to
Richie because he's a friend of Rico's and Matt, look,
I'd love to be a friend of Rico's. But the
very first night I came to Auckland, Yes, I went
out to town and it was a massive bral going on. Yeah,
and I peeled back the layers. I managed to cop
a bit of it. I thought Auckland was crazy at
(14:44):
this I've never experienced anything like this before. And there's
fucking Akira and Rico just on the floor a long room, right,
just throwing hands with the boys. And I say, oh,
I can see why this type of.
Speaker 1 (14:55):
The brothers fighting each other finding other people.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
Yeah, I think they're fighting other people. I can't really
kind of make make out what was going on.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
Fights and pubs are so different from fights in normal places. No, no,
punches don't hurt. When they do hit, they slaps. People
end up lying on the.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
Ground and some are really that bloody, are they.
Speaker 1 (15:14):
Yeah, someone throws a haymaker missus by miles and you
know someone will what's uppercuts and you know it's it's
obviously not like UFC level fights. But then for some reason,
as soon as it goes outside, someone's shirt ends off,
coming off, always off, Yeah, and it's not always. You know,
you see the odd fight with a person rips their
shirt off for some reason at the start of the
(15:35):
fight to sort of show that they're tough. But there's
the other ones when just in the fight, you know,
the shirt comes off and they're on the ground and
they're yelling, and yeah, there's nothing lamorous about a pub fight.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
Is there no, A lot of bit a lot of
kind of hold me back. Yeah, you know, a couple
of there's always a girlfriend in the middle something.
Speaker 3 (15:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
Yeah, Like I always expect, like you know, I can
get a bit lippy and and I always expect to
be held back anything with my arms about going hold
me back, boys, hold me back. Yeah no, No, they're
no mates there. And you know, if anything that look
they think I deserve a hiding, they might watch me
towards it to hold him back.
Speaker 2 (16:10):
Yeah, hold him back anyway.
Speaker 1 (16:14):
Okay, And I've just received a text from Jay wells, Okay,
what it is?
Speaker 2 (16:17):
So I hope today went well.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
He's sick at home the.
Speaker 2 (16:22):
Information about Tolsi leaving him. You mentioned that at the
start of the podcast.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
Oh shit, what It's a personal text that he sent
through a better woman. But I can't read it. She
can't read that. I can't actually can't read that. I
actually can't read that.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
Can you show me? And I won't say it out loud.
Speaker 1 (16:41):
I can't read that.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
No, you can't read that.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
I can't read that.
Speaker 2 (16:44):
You can't read that. It's a personal communicat Is he
just up and about texting you humorous? Things.
Speaker 1 (16:49):
Yeah, like humorous humanist sexual things.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
Have you going to take a day off?
Speaker 3 (16:54):
Mate?
Speaker 2 (16:55):
I want to hear that you are fucking beard.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
Red, mate, I want to hear that it's coming out
both ends and you've got to fibulator on you. You're
tied to a drip, you're getting a leg app amputated,
you've got sept semia, So why don't I hear alright?
Speaker 3 (17:10):
Then?
Speaker 1 (17:10):
Okay? Then alright? Then then that's a bit of a
shorter podcast, and we've done lately, but me and mash
If it's been all hence to the pump's doing the
Metingery FM broadcasts which you can now listen to right
now on the Radio Highlights podcast. So should we just.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
So many ad libs to record?
Speaker 1 (17:27):
Yeah, we've got so many bloody ads record.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
Do you remember back in the day when we used
to include these in the podcast? Yeah, we used to
record these and then I think was a pretty ser
at the time to go back and kind of eat
it them up and then send them to the clients.
It causes a few issues, I think with clients when
you're recording ads. Yeah, podcast, so we won't do it today,
but it's just reminded me of that time.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
Anyway, you might as well plug the fucking ACC wounder
that I'm going down to join the Alternative Commentary Collective
team for the biggest pre match party in town, the
Export Ultra pre Game Friday, fifth of July. Hang with
the ACC team from six pm at the Kensington to
knockoff week. It's good Saturday, sixth of July. Get to
(18:08):
the Kensington from midday on game day. What hey, this
is from Friday, fifth of July. I hang out with
what We're at the Kensington from six pm on the
Friday and then on Saturday. Get to the kens In
from midday on game day for epic drink specials, live
music from Mitch James to set the perfect vibes. Plus
you get a free ride to the stadium on Richie's
Export Express with the one and only Richie WI. I'm
making sure you arrive on time. So that's starting a
(18:31):
bloody mid day on Saturday. Oh shit, mid day.
Speaker 2 (18:35):
I'm glad you're a toss kickoff seven next kickoff midday
and quickly before we leave. Actually, if Rico you are listening,
let me know how that scrap ended up in long
room bench. A lot of people were involved, recurn cure anyway, any.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
Of them for the Yeah, I just want to find
it when when the kickoff is for this game and
just how this fucking absolutely was not involved. This is
absolutely crazy that that pregame is starting at midday.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
It's the most acc it's the most.
Speaker 1 (19:02):
G lane bullshit ever. Yeah, as always kick off. It's
not an afternoon game. The kick off is at seven pm.
He wants people to go to the pub for seven
hours before the game. Mate, mate, No.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
No, So you're going to be at home smashing at
Bailey's in the bath till about four.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
Yeah, I'll be smashing beers in my hotel room until four. Now,
I'll be there. Okay, you'll be there on the bloody
here of the Dogs.
Speaker 2 (19:29):
All right?
Speaker 3 (19:30):
Then?
Speaker 1 (19:30):
Okay, then you're right then? All right? Are we all right?
Speaker 2 (19:33):
Okay?
Speaker 1 (19:33):
Then Richie Wine a great New Zealander. All right then okay,
sere the Kensington if you're in Dneda on bloody Friday
and bloody Saturday night. Jesus Christ, Hello, I'm Matt Heath.
You have been listening to the Matt and Jerry Daily
Bespoke podcast. Right now you can listen to our radio
Highlights podcast, which you will absolutely get barred up about anyway.
(19:57):
Set to download, like subscribe, right of you, all those
great things. It really helps myself and Jerry and to
a lesser extent, Mass and Ruder. If you want to
discuss anything raised in this pod, check out the Conclave,
a Matt and Jerry Facebook discussion group. And while I'm
plugging stuff, my book, A Lifeless Punishing Thirteen Ways to
Love the Life You've Got is out now get it
wherever you get your books, or just google the bastard.
(20:19):
Anyway you seem busy, I'll let you go. Bless Blessed, blessed.
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