Sextortion - The Radio Show (November 19)

Today on the Hauraki Breakfast we’re joined by Morgan Penn from the Sex.Life podcast. She tells us some very interesting info about her sexology training…

Plus Executive Producer Rooda has been blackmailed - should he pay $3000 to have some incriminating footage deleted?

See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:05):
Achie Breakfast with Jeremy Wells available everywhere on the iHeart ready,
were already.

Speaker 1 (00:13):
And good morning, welcome along to the Hidache Breakfast. It's Tuesday,
the nineteenth of November twenty twenty four. Mon names Jeremy
Wells ruders on the buttons this morning.

Speaker 3 (00:22):
Yes, sorry if I press the wrong thing or have
the volumes at strange levels, I'm just a learner. Put
an owl on my head.

Speaker 1 (00:29):
No, you're not a learner. What are you talking about, Rudy,
You're a experienced radio professional.

Speaker 3 (00:34):
Plus, I'm obviously very upset the mashes in here. I
missed that guy already.

Speaker 1 (00:37):
Yeah, mashes not well today. So Rudy's pushing the buttons
and joining us on the show this morning. Another experience
professional and that is Morgan pen Morning.

Speaker 4 (00:46):
Morgan, good morning. Did you pick the song for me?

Speaker 2 (00:49):
No?

Speaker 3 (00:49):
I did? I did. I thought it was a very
nice instrumental bed to have while we introduced you.

Speaker 4 (00:54):
Marks sounds familiar, it does, doesn't it?

Speaker 1 (00:57):
This is this is this feels right for you. There's
something about this?

Speaker 3 (01:01):
Yes, seven all morning.

Speaker 4 (01:02):
My body does want to move to it.

Speaker 1 (01:04):
Oh, that's a good sign. Lots coming up this morning.
Morgan wants to talk about being engaged to the world's
most prolific sperm donor the history of yesterday. Today we'll
tell you about Operation Uranus excuse me, and also Ruder's
getting blackmailed. Should he be paying? That's the question. It's
always interesting when rud is getting black man the.

Speaker 2 (01:26):
Hurdarcky Breakfast with Jeremy Wells al Radio Hdarchy.

Speaker 1 (01:30):
Morgan Pen from the six Dot Life podcast. Sex Ologist
Morgan Pen joins us on the show this morning. And
you might remember this from twenty nineteen, Italian artist Mody's
Your Catlan displayed a yellow banana and he fixed it
to a white wall with silver duct tape and he
called it art. The works called Comedian and it was

(01:52):
put up on an art fair on Miami Beach where
it became a much discussed sensation. Well tomorrow, the ban
a duct tape to a wall as being auctioned by
souther Beasts and it's estimated to sell for between a
one point seven and two point five million New Zealand dollars.

Speaker 4 (02:12):
This is ridiculous. Yeah, unbelievable.

Speaker 1 (02:16):
Well, it's amazing because the work comes with instructions because
it's a.

Speaker 4 (02:20):
Real banana, okay, which is going to rot.

Speaker 1 (02:23):
Yeah, so it comes with instructions to replace the banana
as needed. Emphasizing impermanence.

Speaker 4 (02:31):
Sounds like work.

Speaker 1 (02:32):
Well yeah, isn't that the most So people pay one
point seven for two point five really for duct tape
and the idea of for some instructions?

Speaker 4 (02:43):
Does this really show human stupidity?

Speaker 1 (02:48):
Well, in that way, maybe this is what the art's
meant to depict, because there've been a number of things
like this. I mean recently. Do you remember that banksy
that was sold at auction and then he had a
button and it shredded, so it had a shredder attached
to the bottom of it as a piece of art. Yeah,
I can't remember what it was, some print of some kind,

(03:09):
and then that as the hammer came down, and I
believe it was it was sold at auction for one
point four million dollars.

Speaker 4 (03:16):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (03:17):
And so that the hammer came down and then all
of a sudden, Bankse somehow was somewhere in the room
or had someone in the room, and then they pushed
a button and then it's reading. I think it got
stuck actually halfway down, but anyway, so it's shredded and
it's halfway shredded, and at that point everyone was like,
I thought that was actually brilliant. Well, like I thought

(03:40):
that was amazing that that piece of art. That's that's
in my opinion, that's genius. But now that shredded bank Sea,
that Halsh shredded Banks he is now worth twenty five
point four million dollars. So it's gone from one point
for because the person must have seen it being treated
at first and gone, oh no, oh no, this thing
that I've just paid one point.

Speaker 4 (03:59):
For, it's just being shredded, lose it.

Speaker 1 (04:03):
But no, it's now worth twenty five point four Do you.

Speaker 5 (04:06):
Think that's what Banks he wanted? I feel like he
was being political in that moment and talking about how
silly prices of art are. Yeah, and now it's had
the opposite effect.

Speaker 1 (04:15):
Yeah, Oh, I think that's exactly what he was doing.
Oh my gosh. Yeah. But I mean it's not the
first thing. Then there's other things, like you know, Masselle
de Champs. The thing that started all this was a
urinal that in nineteen seventeen Marcelle dou Champ turned upside
down and then exhibited it in an art gallery in
France and said, this is this is called I called

(04:36):
this fountain and that was the first ever. And then he,
you know, Masselle de Champ was the first person to
say what is art exactly? What can be our question? Yeah?
And so now those fountains and they don't know where
the original one is because he made lots of them.
But now they're worth you know, pens of millions of dollars.

Speaker 3 (04:54):
I'll tell you what. If you go to the n
zmeat toilets and you look at the urinals there, you
would think that there's some people that think they are found.
It's because there's just water run all over the bottom
of it. It's amazing.

Speaker 1 (05:04):
What have people been putting them?

Speaker 3 (05:05):
I don't know. I don't know.

Speaker 1 (05:09):
They are blocked for some reason. They are blocked more
than anything else. So the banana taped to a war,
and that's an interesting one because yeah.

Speaker 4 (05:19):
I mean it's objective. I'm not into it.

Speaker 1 (05:22):
You're not into it. No, you don't like bananas.

Speaker 4 (05:24):
I actually don't like bananas, and I like watching people
let them.

Speaker 1 (05:28):
You don't like watching them and you get tacked to
walls though, especially when they rot. The sort of ruined
the war.

Speaker 2 (05:32):
The hurdarchy breakfast alreadio darchy.

Speaker 1 (05:35):
Morgan pen joins us on the show this morning. Just
had a text and how about that guy that just
dumped the rubbishment in the middle of the floor for
that art award and won the Wakado Art Award. Yes,
that's a good point. Actually we're just talking about ready
mades and contemporary art. Because there's a banana taped to
a wall whichself for what two points between one point

(05:55):
seven and two point five million dollars, that's what they
reckon that it's going to get its other bees.

Speaker 4 (05:59):
Ludicrous. Yeah, So what's this other one about the rubbish?

Speaker 1 (06:02):
Well, there was a guy actually know who I know
went to school with him, Dan Mitchell. He's a contemporary
artist and he he put an entry in for a
w at An Art Award and he just got them
to tip their bin into the middle of the floor
and the rubbish, the contents in it, I don't know
it was. It called rubbish. It's called rubbish, Oh my god,

(06:23):
that is it's called rubbish. And he won he won. Wow,
But it really it really wound people up because someone
said someone's described it as embarrassing for art, so well,
I think that's actually really clever. But how do you
The thing with that is and a lot of contemporary

(06:45):
art as well, like how do you? How do you?
How do you buy it? How do you own it?
It's easy to have a painting on a wall, right,
even a banana taped to a ball. It's a physical something.
What about rubbish it's sitting on the ground. What do
you collect back up and then put it down exactly
the same way? Or do you leave it in your
in the floor? I mean, I mentioned if you had
that in your house.

Speaker 5 (07:06):
Does art have to be something to be bought? Or
can it be a moment in time?

Speaker 1 (07:12):
Good question. I think it has to be something physical,
doesn't it? Does it have to be a commodity? What
to know?

Speaker 5 (07:19):
Like what about this banana on the wall? Like it
has to be changed out?

Speaker 1 (07:24):
Yeah, that they're pushing the boundaries there, but that's kind
of what it's all about. Yeah, I mean, because it
gets to a point where people paint painting, but I
mean paintings are paintings are one part of contemporary art
is a whole other part of it, which for me,
there's there's a big difference between contemporary art and painting.

Speaker 3 (07:44):
I'll be honest, I just feel like what this is
as it's people with too much money and they're like
to swing their day around looking going look at all
the money I got, I'm spending it on absolute In fact,
I'm spending it on garbage.

Speaker 1 (07:58):
Well, yeah, but I don't know. I don't know whether
this garbage thing that Dave Mitchell did for The Way
Out a da Water in two thousand and nine, I
don't know whether that still exists.

Speaker 4 (08:07):
Can you ask him, like we do kind of need
to know.

Speaker 1 (08:09):
Okay, we'll see if we can. We can track it down.
Can we tracked down that rubbish?

Speaker 3 (08:14):
We can make our own, Jerry, have you looked outside
in the radio hurdacue officers just tip one of those
bins over and PIXI camble. Apart from the fact he
had conniptions, just him dancing around the pilot rubbish, I'm
gonna call that.

Speaker 1 (08:27):
Art, Yeah, I mean, look at our office is just
sam A working contemporary artic visions, working with mold and
all sorts of stuff. This is the hidey.

Speaker 2 (08:35):
Breakfast Jeremy Well on Radio Hurdarcky.

Speaker 1 (08:39):
Six thirty one on the Hidaky Breakfast time for you
latest news headlines. Extra security is in place at Parliament,
with up to thirty thousand people expected to protest against
the Treaty principles built today. A number of people are
already out flying flags and playing music. Rising costs are
leaving a bit of taste, with the price of Whittaker's
chocolate's set to rise again. The Key brand two hundred

(09:00):
and fifty grand block could now cost up to seven
dollars and fifty cents.

Speaker 4 (09:05):
Okay, I'm getting skinny this summer.

Speaker 1 (09:07):
I paid six dollars ten last night for a block
of Whittaker's Dark Garna seventy two percent cocoa chocolate.

Speaker 4 (09:15):
That's the thin one as well, isn't it.

Speaker 1 (09:17):
No, it was the thick one. Oh okay, it's the
thick one. Oh. I like the thin ones. Yeah, Oh,
I know the ones you're talking about, right, Yeah, with
the like the Amanda Run, with the Figo Exotic. Ah,
those are good. Those are good. But my problem with
those is I can go through a whole bar of
those absolutely in one setting with no problem at all.

Speaker 4 (09:38):
It's not a problem.

Speaker 1 (09:40):
Yes, A problem. It's the problem if you go for
bar number two.

Speaker 4 (09:45):
Yes, still not.

Speaker 3 (09:46):
As bad as if you go through Judy Free. At
Auckland Airport, I believe it was eleven dollars a bar.
My wife, we're going to visit some people on the Goldie.
We should take them some Witaker's chocolate. I said, Levan,
don't thank you very much and they said it's five
dollars fifty at the supermarket down the road.

Speaker 1 (10:03):
Well, the other day in Australia at the Goldie Airport,
I saw a pack of tim Tam. Notice I haven't
put an mess on the end of it for six
dollars six dollars for a pack of tim Tam.

Speaker 3 (10:14):
What's plond my mind more is that you didn't put
an at the end of it. And it makes so
much sense to me.

Speaker 1 (10:19):
Tim Tam, tim tam, Yeah, they're not. They're not tim tams.
They're tim tam.

Speaker 3 (10:23):
So there's one tim tam or is it multiple?

Speaker 1 (10:27):
That's tim tam. It's one tim Tam, it's two tim tam.
It's also three tim tam.

Speaker 4 (10:32):
Not a giggle of tim tam.

Speaker 1 (10:35):
And the Whites have needed eight goals in back to
back internationals demolishing some More eight nil in their final
World Cup qualifying group match in Auckland. Hat trick to
Chris Woods beheaded the New Zealand victory, which sets up
a semi against Fiji next March. The All Whites also
beat Vana to eight one on Friday. Tough competition.

Speaker 3 (10:57):
I think they beat Malaysia four nil Tahiti three now,
so yeah, all the big guns out to play the
All Whites.

Speaker 1 (11:04):
Really, yeah, kicking the ars of some rubbish soccer teams
around the world, don't The.

Speaker 3 (11:09):
World Cup qualifies that, baby, They're going to be there
next time.

Speaker 1 (11:13):
I think they're going to take on Western Springs are
under ten's next time. See how they go against them.

Speaker 2 (11:18):
The Darky Breakfast with Jeremy Wells al Radio.

Speaker 1 (11:21):
Hodaki six Olid. Just Morgan pen joins us on the show,
and it's good to see someone's mind blowing at sixty
eighty nine in the morning.

Speaker 4 (11:28):
You have rocked me socks. Okay, that's okay, I take
that back. Can we study again?

Speaker 1 (11:34):
Tim Tam, Tim Tam, Tim TAM's yeah. Yeah, But now
we've gone deep on biscuits because there's I mean, there's
obviously a number of other biscuits that do they have
the S on it or do they not?

Speaker 5 (11:44):
Well, yeah, and no, thanks for indulging me. I'm really
curious about like.

Speaker 1 (11:48):
A Shrewsbury Shrewsburries. Yeah, well shrew Shrewsbury's. It's a hard
word to say, isn't it. Shrewsburries Shrewsbury's. I'm just having
a look here as a Shrewsbury. It's not Shrewsburries. So
it's not like berries, like the the plural of berry
is berries. I ees, right, Well, Shrewsbury. It's just Shrewsbury

(12:12):
and that's it. And I think when you when you
say the the plural, if you have multiple Shrewsbury biscuits,
I think you say, I've got I've got three shrewsberries.
But it hasn't. It hasn't. It doesn't have an I
E S on the end of it, does it.

Speaker 3 (12:30):
No, Griffin's Shrewsbury biscuits. I did not notice.

Speaker 1 (12:35):
There we go and yeah, there's other biscuits too, I imagine.

Speaker 5 (12:39):
Yeah, I mean what about hob knobs. Hobknobs, I mean
that's kind of English.

Speaker 1 (12:44):
But I would have thought that that's got an on it?
Honob What is a hob knob.

Speaker 4 (12:49):
It's like a chocolate potage something, isn't.

Speaker 3 (12:52):
It what it is?

Speaker 4 (12:54):
Yeah? No, I just wanted to say.

Speaker 1 (12:56):
Macvit's hobnobs. It's got any okay, the hobnobs.

Speaker 5 (13:02):
The Cameo cream, Oh yeah, that's a classic for a
dunking and a cup of tea.

Speaker 1 (13:08):
The most disgusting biscuit ever made with.

Speaker 3 (13:10):
You man, get out?

Speaker 1 (13:11):
No, you like cameo crean?

Speaker 4 (13:13):
I love it?

Speaker 1 (13:14):
Wow? Are You're the first person I've ever met that
likes a Cameo cream? Oh?

Speaker 4 (13:17):
My god, my own nana before my time.

Speaker 1 (13:19):
Maybe and the sampler you know, the Griffins Salmer.

Speaker 4 (13:23):
Oh great?

Speaker 1 (13:24):
In my family the cameo cream. Would that just go stale?
Nobody would even go near them?

Speaker 4 (13:28):
Now, invite me over for Christmas this year.

Speaker 1 (13:30):
We need someone to eat cameo Even the dog would
eat cameo cream.

Speaker 3 (13:33):
So would you go the Crispy, like the Crispy with
a k little biscuits?

Speaker 1 (13:40):
Yeah, like Crispy. I like a Crispy over the Cameo cream. Absolutely.

Speaker 3 (13:45):
A ginger nut, Oh yeah, of course, ginger nuts.

Speaker 1 (13:48):
Oh, ginger nut. Okay, I've got a Google ginger nut
because I've got to see.

Speaker 3 (13:53):
If that's be careful with that Jerry at work.

Speaker 1 (13:55):
Oh yeah, right, okay, ginger up biscuitshes in't here, ginger
nuts with an ass, They've got an ass. Okay, So
they're plural as opposed to a Tim Tam with a
with a one and hobnob of course. And the cameo
creams they've got ans too, So they're a plural.

Speaker 5 (14:13):
Do you feel like this is a personal thing, like
they kind of got all their own personal pronouns, like
they're either a cameo creams or a Tim Tam.

Speaker 1 (14:22):
Well, I think if you, I do think of biscuits
and gender, okay, And for me, a cameo cream is
a feminine biscuit.

Speaker 4 (14:30):
Yeah, I can see that. I feel that with all
that cream in the middle.

Speaker 3 (14:33):
Oh no, no, see, because I'm more I'm the reason it's.
I think I'm more that a cameo cream is a man,
but with feminine nature. That's what I feel about cameo creams.

Speaker 1 (14:44):
So, so, what are you saying.

Speaker 3 (14:46):
A slightly effeminate man, No, unlike myself.

Speaker 1 (14:49):
Oh, describe yourself as an effeminine man.

Speaker 3 (14:52):
Sometimes I've got a weird walk, I know it.

Speaker 4 (14:55):
I dunk you ruder, Thanks Man, Thanks Marks.

Speaker 1 (14:58):
You do need to get a room.

Speaker 2 (15:00):
The hood you breakfast Al Radio.

Speaker 1 (15:03):
Morgan pen six ologist joins us on the show This morning. Morgan,
we're just about to do the history of Yesterday today
and of course, as you know, there's two options with
the music. There's the drum and based music which is
really keeps us down with the kids and keeps us
relevant in a lot of ways. And then there's of
course the shire music it's been quite fond of which

(15:23):
you like. Would you like the shy music this morning
or would you like the drummer based bad music.

Speaker 4 (15:28):
Well, I just want to check that we're not allowed
a third option of genuine pony.

Speaker 3 (15:33):
We can do whatever you want more to be honest,
there's a third option. Yeah, So she wants to have
go like this, jeary.

Speaker 1 (15:40):
The history of yesterday to do. We've Jeremy Jeans, Drummond Dwells.
Oh yeah, no, I'll work with first of them on
this day. In eighteen sixty three he was President, Abraham
Lincoln delivered his Giddysburg Address be getting four score a

(16:01):
Chevin yees you go, that's how it began. What a
great address. That was the Gettysburg address. And in nineteen
forty two Operation Uranus Soviet defensive begins during the Battle
of stalin Grad one million Soviet soldiers and circled the
German sixth Army. And nineteen seventy nine Chuck Berry released

(16:21):
was released from prison for income tax evasion. He was
in for four months. Interesting Chuck Berry came to New
Zealand a couple of times. Obviously great guitarist, a great musician.
Everybody that met him absolute asshole. Oh, absolute asshole. In fact,
I think in this situation when he came to New Zealand,

(16:42):
he may have arrived hardly played or something and then
took off with the money and someone had to chase
him to the airport.

Speaker 4 (16:48):
Oh wow, what a bad air.

Speaker 1 (16:52):
Yeah, he was. Nobody liked Chuck Berry. And twenty nineteen,
The Weekend released their single Blinding Lights, that went on
to become the longest charting song on Billboard's Top one
hundred at ninety weeks. Great Birthdays Today nineteen sixty two.

(17:13):
Jodie Foster actress Silence of the Lambs. What did he
say to you, clodies? He said, I can smell your
sure great line from her good and nineteen forty two.
Covin Klein, American fession designer, was born in the Bronx,
New York and in nineteen fifty two. Eddie Rainer, a

(17:34):
Great New Zealander best known as the keyboardist from Splitians
born in Lower Heart and Wellington. He's seventy one today, any.

Speaker 4 (17:42):
Happy birthday.

Speaker 1 (17:43):
It is a great guy. It is a great guy
and an amazing part of splitiens not always the bits
that you recognize. Actually, he rainers bits. You know what
I mean. You don't always think and then you listen
a little bit harder for the keyboards, and then you go,
oh wow those But it's really made the song. In fact,
it's good after seven o'clock because we don't quite have time.

Speaker 5 (18:02):
Now.

Speaker 1 (18:02):
I do it because it's six fifty five, but after
seven o'clock it will be quite nice to play a
splittying song that Eddie has a huge influence on. And
I've spoken to Neil Finn about and Neil Finn said,
Eddie turned up and played this little bit on it,
and he said it just it made the song so
much better. When we're talking about people adding bits to

(18:25):
things that you didn't expect that they were going to
do and how cool bands.

Speaker 3 (18:29):
Are like that. Yeah, we're just playing a little bit
of it off air to Morgan pen before and she
was like, I've never heard that in that song. I've
never heard it. That's amazing, So play that for you after.

Speaker 1 (18:41):
See let's play it first song after seven. This is
the Hierarchy Breakfast Stay with us, Let's star.

Speaker 2 (18:52):
The Hururarchy Breakfast with Jeremy Wells on Radio Hierarchy OD
Actually Breakfast with Jeremy Wells available everywhere on the iheartradiol.

Speaker 1 (19:07):
Nice have you with us this morning on the heart
Ache Breakfast Tuesday in the nineteenth of November twenty twenty four.
My name's Jeremy Wells, Executive producer rooters In pushing the
buttons for Mash this morning.

Speaker 3 (19:17):
Yeah, he's away sick. I missed that guy. He was
actually sick yesterday, but he just absolutely soldiered onto Oh.

Speaker 1 (19:22):
I know. That's the thing about about Mash's generation. They
just renowned for their resilience. They are they tough people. Man,
they can soldier on any situational though. That's that was cold.
It's Flawedham this time. It's floored him today. He's down.

Speaker 3 (19:36):
They call him the Digger of Radio Hodaki because he's
just always in the trench.

Speaker 1 (19:40):
He's just he's remarkable. Morgan Butler Morgan pen joined us
as well on the show this morning. Nice to have
you with us more.

Speaker 4 (19:47):
It's delicious to be here. Thank you.

Speaker 1 (19:49):
Yeah, Mas, she would just battle on no man, he's
so tough. He's so tough. But yeah, this this must
be a serious, serious cold to floor him.

Speaker 4 (19:57):
I hope he's resting, you know, got a nurse looking
after him.

Speaker 1 (20:01):
Yeah, I think he does. Actually, I thought some prayers
to me sho out there.

Speaker 3 (20:04):
Interesting. I'm pretty sure his lovely partner Lauren was off
work used today. I wonder if she's off today as well.

Speaker 1 (20:10):
Ah, there we go that maybe they've both gone down.
Ye've both gone down with this cold.

Speaker 4 (20:16):
You know, only about the hope.

Speaker 1 (20:17):
Yeah, it must be full long up next, we're just
talking before about Eddie Rainer's birthday seventy one today. Happy birthday, Eddie.
I know he's a listener to the show. It'd be
good to break down a song that Neil Film was
talking to us about a while ago, and Eddie's can
contribution to it. You don't always hear it, but it's
a famous song, and have a listen or should we

(20:37):
do it now?

Speaker 3 (20:38):
I will probably plan it now.

Speaker 1 (20:39):
We'll plan it now and then we'll talk about it afterwards.
Just have a listen to Eddie's Eddies. But some in
the song the keyboards, that's all that is. I got
used for the ends. I'm the henekey breakfast to Morgan
Penn from the six Dot Live podcast joins us on

(21:01):
the show this morning. Morgan, are you a fan of
Split Ends?

Speaker 4 (21:04):
I am? And that what a banger?

Speaker 1 (21:06):
Yeah, that's a banger. And Eddie's bits in it aren't
always the first bit that you that you think about.
But his his little offbeat organ birds are not only
are they call for the rhythm of the song, but
also they are spooky. There's a spookiness to them. It's

(21:27):
have a listened to them. So he just added that
when they were recording Eddie and Neil was like, I
love Eddies, but.

Speaker 5 (21:47):
It's like a seasoning, like something extra that's just been
added and brings out the whole flavor of the dish.

Speaker 1 (21:52):
Yeah, and there's something about the fact that it works
so well with the lyrics about being frightened because it's
spooky true true, yeah, great news. In the amazing to
think Neil wrote that when he was what eighteen, I.

Speaker 3 (22:12):
Was American eighteen or nineteen years old. It's when you say,
before Neil Finn hears Eddie Randy doing this and he's like, oh,
I really like that, And now you go and see
credit House of touring. If not, they're touring right now
this weekend. Yeah, playing this weekend. And you look at
him what it must be early seventies. Still a great man,
still a good looking man with a great set of here.

(22:34):
But to think of him as an eighteen or nineteen
year old, just going, oh it sounds pretty it sounds
pretty good.

Speaker 1 (22:39):
There.

Speaker 3 (22:39):
I don't know why I'm doing a flood of the
Concord's impression, but that's where I.

Speaker 1 (22:42):
Went, Yeah, well, I think as well. With Split Ends,
it was obviously his brother Tim's band, and then Tom
such a nice older brother allowed his little brother Neil,
talented young guy who looked up massively to his older
brother Tom and allowed him unto the band. And then
good old Nail first, so that the right massive at

(23:04):
the time, the biggest hat for Force blolliands, what's a.

Speaker 3 (23:07):
Bit like I guess if you were Jeff Crow and
you're Martin Crow's older brother.

Speaker 1 (23:11):
Isn't he Jeff's Martin's older brother.

Speaker 3 (23:13):
Yeah, and you're like, oh, I'm pretty good at cricket.
I'm going to the New Zealand team. How good am I?
And then Martin Crow comes and you're like, ah shit, Yeah,
this is not how it's supposed to This is not
the order of things.

Speaker 1 (23:23):
Yeah, yeah, no, but it generally does tend to be
talking about this last week, It generally does tend to
be the younger Sublaz right, that that goes better because
I think you've seen the older siblings do all of
the things, and you've kind of lived at yourself. People
will often say the younger people are old souls, but
not really an old soul. You've just seen your older

(23:44):
siblings do stuff, so it's like you've already lived a
little bit.

Speaker 4 (23:47):
They forged the path.

Speaker 3 (23:49):
That's exactly what it does. Jerry, is your brother older
or younger than you?

Speaker 1 (23:53):
Older? Ah, okay, older, I'm the youngest, all right.

Speaker 3 (23:57):
That might explain a few things.

Speaker 1 (23:59):
Around the room. Morgan younger, younger.

Speaker 3 (24:04):
I'm the younger brother, but my brother that's older than
me is the one that's really good at everything, like
better at music, much better at sport. More confident. I
don't know what he's done to me. He used to
beat you, he used to bully me. We actually talked
about that.

Speaker 4 (24:17):
Oh god, okay, okay, well we'll.

Speaker 1 (24:19):
Talk about this. Yeah, we don't need to right right
this minute. I still love them tears. Okay, hold on,
come over here. I'll give you a hug and hold
your hand through this. Up next, let's talk to Let's
talk about the world most prolific spermed owner. Morgan was

(24:41):
apparently engaged on No the.

Speaker 2 (24:43):
Hodarchy Breakfast with Jeremy Wells. Already your topical.

Speaker 1 (24:48):
Tune from Kings of Leon six on five fourteen minutes
past seven thanks to Banning's trade no matter where you are,
Bunning's traders here to help. Now, Morgan Pen, you join
us on the show this morning, and you'll be interested
in story because a willwind engagement to Kyle Gordy, he's
the world's most famous sperm donor. Okay, you'll probably know

(25:08):
about him. Apparently it turned into a nightmare for Anika Phillips,
who's a German reality TV star. His refusal to stop
donating spermly to the split, though the remain friends today.
So he's a Los Angeles native Gordy. It's thirty two.
He's best known for being the biological father to eighty
children around the world, and he delivers the sperm both

(25:33):
in person and remotely. I think that's how we describe it.

Speaker 4 (25:37):
Yes, his favorite is in person.

Speaker 1 (25:40):
Okay, So he prefers to go in person. Yes, it's
more effective.

Speaker 5 (25:45):
I think it's more intimate, and he obviously has a
nice time.

Speaker 1 (25:50):
He prefers to deliver it that way. Yes, So he
provides the services for free with the goal of helping
struggling families conceive, and encourages interested women to contact him
on Instagram. Okay, so he does it privately.

Speaker 4 (26:03):
Yeah, are you allowed to do that?

Speaker 5 (26:05):
Well, it depends where you are. There's different laws in
different countries. But at the end of the day, when
it comes to making babies, yeah, you're allowed to do
whatever you want. You know, like, if you're not telling
people about it, you can. You could be out there
impregnating heaps of people. But this is problematic because unless
there is a recause, then you could be you know,

(26:28):
pro creating then with your brother or a sibling or
oh you don't know about.

Speaker 4 (26:33):
Who your father is.

Speaker 1 (26:35):
Of course, Yeah, and that must have happened before.

Speaker 3 (26:39):
Surely the more kids he has, obviously, the more the
odds goer.

Speaker 4 (26:46):
And especially if there's in one area, you know, like
maybe he's.

Speaker 1 (26:49):
Not bringing out a amber cargo for example, there's going
to be a high likelihood that you'll end up with
one of your you know, half brother or sisters.

Speaker 5 (26:59):
Yeah, yeah, I think this guy's unwell. I think I
think he's got an impregnation fetish. Okay from my looking
at this scenario, And that is a thing.

Speaker 4 (27:10):
It is a thing.

Speaker 5 (27:11):
It's a big thing, and it often happens where it's
a primal part of the male brain and they want
to spread their seed, but quite often there is just
this piece of actually making that seed turn into a baby.

Speaker 1 (27:23):
Okay, but it must be just the idea of it,
because you'll never know, necessarily, will you, Especially if it's
a one night stand or a situation with one person
then you move on to another person, you changed cities
or towns, how'd you know?

Speaker 4 (27:38):
Yeah, I don't know. It's a bit loose, isn't it.

Speaker 1 (27:41):
Yeah, super loose. So apparently he reached out nearly twenty
twenty three seeking well, Anieka Phillips reached out to him,
seeking his services, and then she noticed the spark between them,
and soon the budding lovebirds were talking for hours at
night before bed oh dear several months of digital dating with.

Speaker 3 (28:03):
The fingers online online sorrys.

Speaker 1 (28:08):
So apparently she then realized she wanted to meet in
the flesh, and then cracks started to form after Phillips
realized that she was not the only woman in his life.
I thought we were in a committed relationship, she said
when I first met him in person. Then he told
me that as recently as the week before he had
performed an in person person insemination. Well, that's just having
sex with someone else and performing an in person in semination.

(28:34):
I like it. It's just semantics there.

Speaker 3 (28:36):
I'm here for your in personation.

Speaker 1 (28:39):
So apparently, after eight months of being engaged, the pair
broken off because Gordy said he couldn't consider stopping sperminations
to other women. Of course he couldn't, But apparently they've
maintained a support of friendship since the breakup, and Kyl
remains dedicated to his controversial women with fifteen children on
the way. On the way, Yeah, he calls himself. He's
named himself to see of sperm donating on Facebook, and

(29:04):
he owns a website be Pregnant. Oh wow, okay, sounds
hot hot.

Speaker 3 (29:11):
I'd advise on the ins in me computers. Morgan, you
don't go to the be pregnant website.

Speaker 4 (29:16):
I just got.

Speaker 1 (29:18):
Makes things I'm keem from to impregnate me.

Speaker 2 (29:22):
Good luck they breakfast already.

Speaker 1 (29:26):
Morgan Pin from the six Dot Live podcast joins us
on the show this morning, and we're going deep into
a man called Gordy Kyle or not Andrew, not Andrew
my gosh, sorry, no, that's a different person. Andrew Gordy,
I believe is a sports Presenter's huge. I mean a
lot of people would like a sperm tould be that.

(29:46):
I'm sure he's a good looking man and a nice person.

Speaker 4 (29:49):
Not for me, but that's that's the perfect spoon donut.

Speaker 1 (29:51):
Yeah, nice looking man, nice person and tall guys, some
good genes. Anyway, that's not what we're talking about. We're
talking about Kyle Gordy. It turns out I've I've just
done a little bit of a search on him. He
tried to come to New Zealand for a bit of
all for a bit of.

Speaker 3 (30:06):
A what would you describe it working holiday?

Speaker 1 (30:09):
Yes, a trip around the place. He was lining up
a few donations in person donations.

Speaker 4 (30:16):
Wow, and he was his genetics.

Speaker 1 (30:19):
Well, this is the thing. He was denying entry. He
was coming through FIGI from America and they denied him
entry and he couldn't work out why. And then New
Zealand Immigration said, no, it's because you've got an online
presence and you're turning up to do work and you
haven't disclosed what you're actually turning up to do.

Speaker 5 (30:36):
But it's not paid work because you can't be paid
for spum donation in New Zealand.

Speaker 1 (30:41):
Interesting. Well, he said it was very unusual. He said
he'd been to Europe and this has all been fine,
and he doesn't know why he's not allowed to He
is not sure why he's not allowed to do it
in New Zealand. But yeah, Immigration told him that unfortunately
we have emails that show you're coming for another reason,
you have an online presence. Immigrations said that they're not

(31:03):
letting me in. She said the Immigration said that I
wasn't being honest. I don't think I have to tell
them when I'm coming here to donate. I'm just also
coming here to sight se because he's also going to Hobbiton.

Speaker 4 (31:11):
Oh well that makes sense.

Speaker 1 (31:13):
Yeah, And then they wouldn't let him in to Fiji either, interestingly,
So he was on Doctor Phil and Doctor Phil sort
of gave him a bit of addressing down and said
this is this is dangerous stuff. And Fertility Associates, which
is the company which apparently do eighty percent of the
of the sperm donation here in New Zealand, we're saying

(31:34):
that they said it's dangerous. This guy, what this guy's
up to is dangerous. They cap the amount of families
that men can donate their sperm two to seven.

Speaker 4 (31:45):
Okay, that feels safe.

Speaker 5 (31:46):
That feels like if that's spread out over New Zealand,
that's okay.

Speaker 1 (31:50):
Yeah. And they say that they're also screened for genetic
issues and STDs et cetera.

Speaker 4 (31:57):
St we call them thet I.

Speaker 1 (31:59):
Sorry. Yeah, and and yeah, so they're saying that's really unsafe.
What what the sky Carl Gordy does.

Speaker 3 (32:06):
So he got denied, He tried to get in Fiji,
got denied, got denied coming into New Zealand. Do you
think he tried to get into Shannon and to Shannon. Yeah,
a lot of guys try and get into Shannan. No, no, no,
the town, Morgan Town.

Speaker 1 (32:21):
And the Lower Orth Ireland.

Speaker 3 (32:23):
Have you never been in Shannon before?

Speaker 4 (32:25):
I've never been invited.

Speaker 1 (32:27):
Shannon the town.

Speaker 3 (32:28):
Yeah, I generally just passed through. I don't stay for Lauren.

Speaker 1 (32:31):
Is that the one where you put your hands in
the and the and the and the stocks?

Speaker 3 (32:36):
I don't know. Me and the kids normally get a
milkshake there. But apart from that, not much going on there,
is it.

Speaker 1 (32:42):
I'm not sure why you're talking about shut Literally, that's
gone right over the top of my head. So anyway,
Carl Gordy denied and no he didn't come to Shannon either.
That's what you if, that's what you want to know.
Sometimes I worry about you, ruder. This is a Haocky Breakfast.

Speaker 2 (32:58):
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Speaker 1 (33:09):
Hidachi two thirty one on the Herdeckey Breakfast Time for
latest news headlines. A heightened police presence in Wellington as
the Hikoy moves into the Capitol. They say it's been
a peaceful march so far and don't expect any significant
issues except for traffic. People have already started gathering at Parliament.
Russia is accusing Joe Biden of adding fuel to the fire,

(33:29):
and it's war with Ukraine. The US President has given
Ukraine the green light to use long range missiles, and
Whillace AI is waiving the all black flag. At the
World Rugby Award nominations, the impressive Louis Ford has been
nominated for the Men's Breakthrough Player of the Year. Black
Ferns pivot Hannah King has also been nominated in the
women's fifteen's Breakthrough category. So there we go.

Speaker 3 (33:54):
So the World Rugby Men's Fifteens Player of the Year
nominees this three South African and one Irish. That no
all blacks in there this.

Speaker 1 (34:03):
Year, right, is that right? Kaylin Dorris Evan, It'sabeth Peter
stuff to Toy and Chislin Colby. Interesting, interesting lineup. Well
that all blacks haven't had a great year, have they?

Speaker 3 (34:16):
No? Not as not as good as four.

Speaker 1 (34:19):
Losses so far. It makes a lot of sense. Rudy
got blackmailed mate, let's get stuck.

Speaker 2 (34:28):
Under that next the Hdarchy breakfast with Jeremy Wells already.

Speaker 1 (34:33):
Morgan pen, you can help us with this particular email
that Ruder got sent. I'll read it out because it's
been placed in the dock here Ruder.

Speaker 3 (34:43):
And took close to me. To be honest, I don't think.

Speaker 1 (34:45):
I should read it when we set This exactly.

Speaker 3 (34:48):
Came into my own box yesterday evening, and initially I
deleted it as junk and dismissed it. But after thinking
about it a bit more, I think I should take
it a bit more seriously than the kiaka.

Speaker 1 (35:00):
So here it is. This is my email reads, Hello there, Ruder.
This is your real name, Durrem. Ipect, but let's just
say hello. They're Ruder. I know that you are Ruder,
and this email is yours. I know that you were
born in nineteen seventy nine. You may ask how. Let

(35:20):
me get straight to my point. A while ago I
managed to access your device, and from there I spread
myself across all the devices using special software. During this period,
I've managed to collect your Internet history and captured webcam
footage of you enjoying yourself. You know what I'm talking
about in brackets while watching high controversial genre adult movies.

Speaker 4 (35:42):
Oh, it's a classy way of saying porn.

Speaker 1 (35:47):
I believe you began to understand how big this is,
as I'm sure your family, colleagues, and all of your
contacts will not want to watch such disgusting footage. My
initial feeling was to release this and expose the side
of you which cannot be undone. But I am not
such a personal think goodness, here's the deal. Oh, here

(36:08):
we go, Okay, a little payment to save a reputation
worth years of building. What does that mean? Transfer? Exactly?
Here we go two thousand US dollars worth of bitcoins
to the wallet below, and then it has a wallet address.
The deal is clear. The ball is in your court.

(36:33):
A little to imagine is how your beloved ones will
look at you? What does that mean? I be never
the same again?

Speaker 3 (36:41):
It doesn't sound good.

Speaker 4 (36:42):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (36:44):
Once transfer notification is received, I'll be out and the
data will be permanently, permanently deleted remotely from your devices.
You have forty eight hours. You have my word. I
will be gone. And remember you have forty eight hours,
so Ruda, kindly think twice before you do something. If

(37:05):
you think I'm joking. Your friends will get something using
your phone. If you're new to this payment method, Google BitPay,
Moon Pay Challenge Changingly. Alternative option is to use cash.
You can search BTC ATM near me.

Speaker 4 (37:19):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (37:20):
At the end, I would like to express that it
was nice me and you and looking forward to doing
business with you. Wow. Okay, just really taking a turn
at the end. There always remember, do not try to
be a hero. Best regards, no name.

Speaker 3 (37:35):
What do I do here?

Speaker 1 (37:36):
Guys? Why you pay this is? You need to pay
because they've got They've got images that I know how
much stuff you've been looking at, and I know the
kinds of things you've probably been looking at. I think
you need to pay it.

Speaker 3 (37:48):
That's three and a half thousand New Zealand dollars.

Speaker 1 (37:51):
Oh my god, you report, your whole life will be
over quick.

Speaker 5 (37:55):
I think they're quite presumptive thinking that your friends and
family don't want to see it.

Speaker 4 (37:59):
I would be quite intrigued.

Speaker 3 (38:02):
I can think of a number of members of my
friends and family that don't want to see this.

Speaker 1 (38:06):
I don't think you want to see it.

Speaker 3 (38:08):
I don't think I think even in your field is
a sex solar just Morgan. You don't want to see this, right?

Speaker 1 (38:13):
Wow?

Speaker 4 (38:14):
Okay, well, don't be a hero then.

Speaker 3 (38:16):
Look, I know Mash who's away today, so be presumptuous
to speak on his behalf. But I think he'd like
to see it.

Speaker 1 (38:25):
Yeah. Well, I just think, what is it to two
thousand new years? So how much about three four? I
think that for you for it's it's worth it. Okay.

Speaker 3 (38:35):
Do you think if I talk to our Australian content
direct depicts a gamble, he might sponsor me on this
one because obviously he wouldn't want the station to come
and to dixcuse me to come and to disrepute.

Speaker 1 (38:45):
Well, I know that he's been black card in the
past and he had some shock like next level of stuff.
So he's been paying for years. I think he's on
I think he pays monthly, he's on a subscription, he's
on a plan.

Speaker 4 (38:58):
What does that guy look at?

Speaker 1 (39:00):
Oh, you don't want it. You don't want to know. Okay,
even as a sex oligist, you don't want to know.
I think you've turned up into this environment and you've thought,
you know, I understand this realm Oh.

Speaker 5 (39:10):
No, Well, I think we shouldn't be shaming, self pleasuring.
Either you know this is what this guy is or
woman is cashing in on.

Speaker 1 (39:20):
Do we think it's a woman. Realistically, it's not a woman.
It's definitely not a woman. Pay the money, Ruder. Okay,
maybe we have to whip our hat around. I don't know,
we've got to put it.

Speaker 2 (39:34):
The Hurdarchy Breakfast with Jeremy Wells already.

Speaker 1 (39:37):
Darchy talking earlier on about Ruder, who's been blackmuted by
a scam someone who's attempting to say that they've got
some footage of Ruda and watching some adult material on
his computer and footage of that, and they're going to
release that to friends and family and if he doesn't
pay two thousand UIs dollars to a bitcoin wallet only

(40:02):
this particular scammer the only one. Well, they didn't mind
if you went too an eighty year either. And I
was joking when I said that you should definitely pay
that two thousand dollars. Yeah, of course you shouldn't pay
the two thousand dollars, But I thought that was pretty
clear that I was joking. But we've hit a number
of texts saying so this one, he is so irresponsible,
will be listeners who will have received the same spam

(40:22):
email and are very anxious will now pay up because
they'll believe you and the risk hope Hodoki is ready
to foot the bills.

Speaker 3 (40:32):
Is this text, Oh, I can one hundred percent tell
you we are not ready to put.

Speaker 1 (40:35):
That belt high teams. Is this text I know you're
joking about the email and paying it, Please put a
disclaimer out about it. People have paid these scammers, that's
why they keep going. My mother in law got scammed
thousands from somewhere where she thought she was talking to
someone famous. Thanks very much, says this text.

Speaker 3 (40:53):
And I feel like more and more sadly because when
these things sort of started coming out, maybe about twenty
years ago, my uncollect she got scammed his son. So
my cousin apparently sent an email saying, hello, father, I
am stuck in Nigeria. I need X amount of British
pounds to get out. And because my uncle at the

(41:14):
time had never heard about this being a thing, he
just immediately paid the money and they didn't talk about
it for a few months later and he's like, oh,
I'm glad you got out of blah blah blah, because
he was actually overseas in Indonesia, I think, And so
my uncle just didn't really even think about it, just said, wow,
it's a few thousand pounds to get my son out
of Nigeria. So I'm absolutely going to pay it. But
I feel like whereas I thought it would be more

(41:36):
and more common that people would talk about it, and
more and more common that people would realize that these
scammers are scammers and aren't real people. But more and
more you're getting the alerts from places, from the news
outlets saying pensioner scammed three hundred thousand dollars and just
these stories are absolutely heartbreaking.

Speaker 1 (41:54):
Yeah, and I think the more and more, particularly with
older people using technology to pay banking, it's become more
and more complex. And of course there's a lot of
old people out there who had their life savings, have
worked really really hard all their lives, and they're right
for the pickings unfortunately. And yeah, look there's a horrific

(42:15):
scams going on. There are those MZTA ones that are
going on, but look incredibly real now where people are
paying fines and things that don't exist.

Speaker 3 (42:21):
Yeah, that's another way they get you with small little
transactions as well that you don't notice, oh, ten dollars here,
fifteen dollars there, and you don't think about it. But
then over time you look at it and you're like,
I lost several hundred dollars.

Speaker 1 (42:34):
Before you click on those things, you need to have
a good think about it and chat to people. Talk
to people and work out whether or not something is
a scam. This person's just texting two thousand dollars as
a bargain for some of the things you've been watching. Ruder.

Speaker 3 (42:47):
I mean, they're not wrong, So yes, don't pay if
you get a email like that.

Speaker 1 (42:55):
Definitely not like.

Speaker 2 (42:56):
The hurdarchy breakfast already your hurdarchy.

Speaker 1 (42:59):
Morgan pen from the six Dot Live podcast joins us
on the show this morning. It's nice to have you
on the show. Morgan.

Speaker 4 (43:06):
It's a real treat to be here.

Speaker 1 (43:07):
Have we got you today, we got you any other
days this week? Or have we just got you today yesterday? Oh,
it was great to have you on Friday and Thursday
last week. Thank you, A real breath of fresh air
through the studio. Well, I've got to say, interestingly, you
came through the studio and their mesh got sick and
now he's he's not with us anymore. We're just pushing
the buttons.

Speaker 4 (43:27):
He was sniffing. He sniffed me quite hard, that boy.

Speaker 1 (43:30):
He did, didn't he?

Speaker 4 (43:31):
Yeah, really nuzzled in and true he was doing. Took
me all in.

Speaker 1 (43:35):
He took in some spores of something.

Speaker 4 (43:37):
But I bought him some muff today, and I'm sad
he's not here.

Speaker 1 (43:40):
I know you've brought in some beautiful muffins. And not
only have you brought in some muffins, but you're brought
in some butter with the muffins.

Speaker 4 (43:45):
Got to have butter.

Speaker 1 (43:46):
Yeah, I agree, totally agree. We'm tucked into the met
We should do that after eight o'clock. Also coming up
putting healthy stuff into unhealthy food? Is it healthy stuff
inside of these muffins?

Speaker 4 (43:57):
Does apple count?

Speaker 1 (43:58):
Yes?

Speaker 5 (43:58):
Oh dang no, They're meant to be there though. Okay,
it's not what I'm talking about with this.

Speaker 1 (44:03):
Oh okay, you're talking about like veggies. Yes, this is
what a lot of parents do with their kids. Trickery, Yeah, trickery.
You're grating trickery into their food.

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Speaker 1 (44:28):
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Speaker 3 (44:38):
Do we talk about that thing that just got set
off here as we leave that off here?

Speaker 1 (44:42):
Well, it is International toilet Day. But okay, I people
having breakfast.

Speaker 3 (44:47):
That's why I ask Morgan. I'm not just gonna absolutely
throw you under the bus and say what it is.
I'm saying, do we need to address it on the
radio show for the listeners.

Speaker 1 (44:55):
And Morgan's claiming she didn't, she didn't run her sun.
I didn't. She didn't done us on that break all right,
that's what she's saying. Some people would argue that she.

Speaker 3 (45:05):
Had done us.

Speaker 1 (45:07):
Some people would say that anyway, we've got muffins in
the studio now.

Speaker 4 (45:12):
It's very very different here since six o'clock. Jerry Likes
have been here since then.

Speaker 1 (45:17):
I know, I know. But the muffins that they sort
of presented themselves, now we can see them. They're out
of their wrapp But they're ready to go, looking forward
to eating those muffins a little bit later on as well.
Putting healthy stuff and unhealthy food? Is it right or
wrong to crop a shit? Are you allowed to do it?

Speaker 3 (45:37):
Morgan?

Speaker 4 (45:38):
Sorry, I'm so angry.

Speaker 1 (45:40):
About this subversively? Are you allowed to do it subversively?
Is that right? Or is that a sin?

Speaker 2 (45:45):
The Hurdy Breakfast with Jeremy Wells already.

Speaker 1 (45:49):
Morgan Penn joins us on the show this morning, and Morgan,
you send a message through to the group chat last
night and it said this is what it says, zucchini
and brownies. I hate it when people try to put
healthy crap and treat dishes to try and make it
in vertcomas healthier. Does it actually taste as good? Question Mark?

Speaker 4 (46:10):
Well, this is the thing.

Speaker 5 (46:11):
I actually had a whole group of women turn against
against me Sunday because we're at a birthday afternoon tea
and someone said I've got brownies and I said, yes, great,
and they're like they're really healthy, They've got zucchini in them.
And I was like, God, get out of here, I
don't want them. Anyone was like no, no, no, they're great,
and I'm like Zucchinis do not belong in brownies.

Speaker 1 (46:32):
Why would you put zucchini in a brown exactly?

Speaker 4 (46:34):
Apparently it makes it healthier.

Speaker 1 (46:37):
Okay, healthier, sure, but you could put anything in the amica,
but let, chopped up lettuce. But why zucchini in the
brownies that make it moisture?

Speaker 4 (46:46):
I think moisture is the key piece here.

Speaker 1 (46:49):
And it doesn't make it better. I suppose zucchini is
kind of a what is zuke? What is the taste
of zucchini? If you describe the cousia are also known
as corgiet.

Speaker 4 (46:58):
It's quite bland, isn't it when you think about it?

Speaker 1 (47:00):
What is it? It's nothing, it's it doesn't have any
flavor at all. The couseet.

Speaker 4 (47:04):
Oh my god, it's so bland think about.

Speaker 1 (47:06):
It exactly, So why put it? Why put it in anything?

Speaker 3 (47:09):
I remember as a child corset tasted disgusting, but now
as an adult, I do feel like it has absolutely
no taste.

Speaker 1 (47:16):
It's it's a great like I do a causeet dish.
So it's like come some kind of gone on where
I slice the cause yet in half, but long ways,
so like a like a long sort of boat, like
a boat. Was not slong. That was not the thing.
I was going to think of morgan boat and like

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a log. And and then on top of that, I
go salt and pepper, and then I go garlic okay.
And then also you can chuck some tomato on the
top of that.

Speaker 3 (47:51):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (47:52):
And then I bake it.

Speaker 4 (47:53):
Okay.

Speaker 5 (47:53):
Look, I don't want to poo poo you, but this
sounds great. But this is not what I'm talking about.
I'm talking about hiding it in places like that. I
would consent to eat that dish that you've just made.
I don't want to eat it in my brownies. And
this is the thing.

Speaker 4 (48:08):
All the women were like, you can make.

Speaker 5 (48:10):
Delicious things that are unhealthy really healthy by doing this
with so many different things.

Speaker 3 (48:15):
What about, for instance, as a father of an eight
and ten year old, Yes, I might go, hey, kids,
we're having spaghetti bolonaise for dinner. Yay, they'll say, But
they don't know that I've got the greater and I've
greater than things like zucchini slash CORDI. So you've carrots,
no carrots.

Speaker 4 (48:34):
This is deception.

Speaker 1 (48:36):
Oh.

Speaker 3 (48:36):
The other night we had what it's it called bubble
and Squeak because the night before we'd had roast vegies,
and I just put on quite a bit of spinach
leaves and I got there to wilt, and then I
just put hopes heaps cheese on top of it. I
was like, there you go, kids, there's a nice, unhealthy
meal for you. And they went for it. But if
they could see that spinach, they meant, yuh y, it's gone, yes, okay,

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it's got. What's this green stuff? They never say thanks,
they never say thanks, but they say, what's this green stuff? Oh?
I hate onion, Oh I hate capsicum? But all they
could see was cheese. Away, they went, Okay.

Speaker 1 (49:14):
So your kids won't eat anything vegetable related, so you
have you have to hide it in their photo.

Speaker 3 (49:18):
Just complain about it, because otherwise I go, well, no
dessert for you tonight is area. No dessert for you tonight, body, Okay,
no ice cream for you if you can't eat that.

Speaker 1 (49:26):
Yeah that's fair enough.

Speaker 3 (49:27):
Yeah that's great parenting.

Speaker 1 (49:29):
That's fair enough. So okay, so you're you're subvertively you're
subversively grating, but it would taste grice and then the
kids don't even like the man.

Speaker 4 (49:38):
And cheese like you're still playing the game. You're hiding it.

Speaker 3 (49:43):
I'm putting in quite a number of herbs and garlic
as well.

Speaker 5 (49:45):
Though, anything is there anything that tastes good that's hiding vegetables?

Speaker 3 (49:51):
Well, my spaghetti bolonaise, she tastes delicious, Morgan.

Speaker 1 (49:55):
But but what Morgan's aut I mean, she's good. You're
going you're going brown, You're going dessert brownie like chocolate
treaty thing. No, that's ridiculous. I don't even know why
you put that in there.

Speaker 3 (50:06):
You let me, let me throw this at you, Morgan.
Then carrot cake your thoughts.

Speaker 5 (50:11):
Oh yeah, that's that's confusing for everyone, isn't that because
that's like just accepted as a delicious cake.

Speaker 1 (50:17):
Yeah, well, there's goodness and there's good stuff in there.
That's the thing about a carrot cake. Someone says he
you can add parmesan to that zuchin as well, Yes
you can. I do pot parmeers and I forgot about
that ingredient. That's so delicious, those things.

Speaker 2 (50:33):
But otherwise, got a taste the breakfast with Jeremy Wells already.

Speaker 1 (50:39):
Quarter I've got a mufful of muff i. Yeah, Morgan
pen joins us from the show this morning. She brought
it in a muffin. Excuse me, I seed to finish
that absolutely delicious moist muff.

Speaker 4 (50:56):
Oh, you're welcome.

Speaker 1 (50:58):
That is that is I would give that a more
and moisture level eighty five percent.

Speaker 5 (51:02):
I think your mouth deserves pleasure in the morning, you know,
And I'm really happy to witness that in New Well.

Speaker 1 (51:07):
I'm not normally an eater of breakfast in the morning.

Speaker 3 (51:09):
Yeah, when would you normally start eating dary twelve o'clock?

Speaker 4 (51:13):
Yeah, that must got you over the line.

Speaker 1 (51:15):
Yeah, I mean, I'm not like one of those people
that says I mustn't eat before twelve. I'll just eat
when I'm when I'm ready. But it's normally about eleven
thirty to sort of twelve thirty one o'clock something like that.
But that muff. I saw that muff there, and it
was wrapped up in a particular way where it was
a piece of white paper, very wholesome, with some twine,

(51:38):
you know, like old school twine. And I thought, any
muff that's wrapped in white paper with love like that,
that's made with love, clearly and wrap with love, I'll.

Speaker 4 (51:47):
Eat reeks of wholesomeness, doesn't it.

Speaker 1 (51:50):
And also the butter that you brought on is particularly nice, Jerry.

Speaker 3 (51:53):
Is that the second muff that you've nailed in the
last twenty minutes. I've eaten two mufs I've done. Yeah,
And we're talking about food that's disguised with healthy stuff.

Speaker 1 (52:01):
I don't. And carrot cakes an interesting one because there's
a lot of goodness and carrot cake. And I've heard
this recently. You know, people say cat cakes terrible for you,
all that sort of stuff, but not all cakes I
created IgG though, because as you see the carrot cake,
a lot of goodness in there are good banana cake
full of bananas. What you're looking at me, Morgan, like
you hate banana cake? I love banana cake.

Speaker 4 (52:23):
Do you who doesn't love banana cake? It's not as
moist though, is it? Or does it get moist?

Speaker 1 (52:30):
Well, my partner, Toss, he makes a banana cake and
it's your birthday today, so a good good day to
talk her up. But she bakes a banana cake and
she uses almond meal in it, oh okay, instead of flour,
and then it's a very moist banana cake. And because

(52:51):
it doesn't have flour and it's got almond meal, so
a lot of goodness on the almond meal as well.

Speaker 5 (52:55):
Yes, but it's the substitution that feels weird for me,
like vegans often substitute, like with the chickpea, the chick bee.

Speaker 1 (53:02):
Brian, Oh right, oh god, now we're getting into meat alternatives. God,
don't get me into meat. Are you vegan, morgan or hell?

Speaker 4 (53:10):
No? Oh no? I love meat?

Speaker 1 (53:12):
Okay, good, you look like a meat eater. You look healthy,
you look you look like you're virile.

Speaker 3 (53:18):
You know, durry, you're just talking before about banana cakes.
What's the difference between a banana cake and a banana loaf?
I do you know the difference?

Speaker 1 (53:25):
I don't. I don't sing.

Speaker 4 (53:28):
Yeah, there's no icing on a loaf, is there?

Speaker 1 (53:31):
Oh? The one that tells he does doesn't have any
icing on it either? No icing? Yeah, real dog? No
I sing on that one. See.

Speaker 3 (53:38):
My wife leans heavily into banana loaf with chocolate chips
quite often, or walnuts depending on Sorry.

Speaker 4 (53:46):
It's like fgans with walnuts on top. No, no, no ruins.

Speaker 3 (53:49):
You have not tried my wife's banana life. You try it.

Speaker 1 (53:53):
It's taking greater friends to us until you try it.

Speaker 3 (53:56):
I don't want to hear a negative word said against it.

Speaker 4 (53:58):
All right, apologies, Well.

Speaker 1 (54:00):
I want to kill your wife to bring in the banana, like,
where is it? Where is it rooted? Let's see it.

Speaker 3 (54:07):
We've really been leaning into the bananas for smoothies recently,
so there's no Roden bananas left.

Speaker 1 (54:11):
Jerry, it's good that it's food Tuesday. Here on the Hedicky.

Speaker 2 (54:15):
Breakfast, The Hodarchy Breakfast with Jeremy Wells on Radio.

Speaker 1 (54:19):
Hodarchy, Morgan pen joins us. Morgan pen Soilk sex ologist
on the show this morning, and Morgan, I'm not sure
if you remember, but here on Radio Hurdarcky we do
think called beer and pie July and earlier in the
year in July, we asked our listeners to suggest a
pie filling for a hold Acu pie cool that we're

(54:40):
making in conjunction with Dad's pies, and so we put
it out there. There were thousands of suggestions, I bet
not all of them appropriate, not all of them edible.

Speaker 3 (54:53):
I believe one of them was. I know you've had
a couple of muffs this morning. Some people ask for
muff pie.

Speaker 1 (54:57):
There's a lot of muff pie.

Speaker 4 (54:59):
Weird, what would that take slang exactly?

Speaker 1 (55:02):
Exactly. So in the end we landed on the Angers
steak and Jlipino cheese pie.

Speaker 4 (55:09):
Oh that's yeah, I could hone one of those.

Speaker 1 (55:11):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (55:12):
We sampled it here in the studio a while back
with the guys from Dad's Pies and absolutely delicious, and
so it's become the radio Hadocke pie and in a
few weeks.

Speaker 1 (55:24):
In fact, I think next week it's going to be
next week, I believe. So, yeah, you're going to be
able to get your hands on the Dad's Pies pie
from your local BP from the Wild Being Cafe.

Speaker 2 (55:34):
Wow.

Speaker 5 (55:34):
Would you Is this a pie you'd put a sauce
on or is it a standalone I.

Speaker 1 (55:39):
Think I had it stand alone with but because the
Jlipennio cheese was spicy, but not too spicy, just a
little bit spicy. But I would I personally always have
a mins and cheese worth tomato sauce.

Speaker 3 (55:53):
Yes, I'm a massive fiend of tomato sauce on just
about anything hot because I like that hot and cold
sort of sensation. But I reckon with this pie, I
don't think i'd put the sauce on it.

Speaker 1 (56:08):
Yeah, well, I don't think this is I don't think
you need it, that's for sure. And yeah this one,
this one is a good it's a good sized pie
as well. Where you you know, some some pies you've
got huge amounts of filling, which is always nice, but
not easy to eat while driving. This pie is a
driving pie. You can eat it while you're driving and
need it on the go. He's why it's so good.
We can pick it up at BP while being cafe

(56:30):
your supermarkets, all your dearies, that is useful.

Speaker 4 (56:33):
You don't want to dripper no while you're driving. Don't
look at me like that you do want to dripper No,
absolutely not.

Speaker 3 (56:46):
I was actually just thinking because you know is available
at the BP wild Bean Cafe supermarkets, A dearies, Jerry,
you could get into an orchard situation where people are
buying the hedechy pie and then they see Jeremy Wells
from the radio hurdeche brick form you sign my pie?
Bro Hey, Broke, can you sign my pie? What are
you gonna do in that situation?

Speaker 1 (57:02):
And how do you sign someone's pie?

Speaker 3 (57:04):
I'm thinking maybe more the packet.

Speaker 1 (57:05):
Oh okay, yeah, oh absolutely, I'd sign someone's poe. I've
been asked to sign stranger things. Than a pile that
time reader, don't worry about that. Yeah, I'll sign absolutely anything.

Speaker 2 (57:16):
Jennie Wells on Radio.

Speaker 1 (57:19):
A thirty on the Hedcky Briefast Time for your latest
news headlines. Crowds are building in central Wellington as part
of the HIKOI. Police are preparing for tens of thousands
to protest today. Traffic on State Highway one is building
and people are advised to avoid traveling this morning if possible.
The Regulation Ministry wants to hear people's red tape horror stories.
It's red tape tip line is now live. Minster in

(57:43):
charge David Seymour says, if there's red tape in your
industry that needs cutting, they want to know about it.
There's a there's a phone.

Speaker 3 (57:49):
Number, apparently there is.

Speaker 1 (57:52):
What is there's actually an eight hundred? Is it an
eight hundred number? Is it O nine hundred? Do you
have to pay for it?

Speaker 3 (57:57):
The red tip Surely it's not. I'm just gonna look
it up.

Speaker 1 (58:02):
That's I just a red tape tip line. That's amazing.

Speaker 4 (58:07):
Are we just creating a society of like mowners potentially?

Speaker 1 (58:11):
Yeah? I mean I didn't even know there was a
regulation Ministry there. We go and the All Whites are
now two wins away from a twenty twenty six FIFA
World Cup spot. New Zealand has stump sum Or eight
nil in Auckland to finish top spot in the qualifying group,
setting up a semi final against Fiji next March. The
other semi finals between Tahiti and New Caledonia. Jez, it

(58:35):
would be great to be in the World Cup again,
wouldn't it so good?

Speaker 3 (58:41):
Quick update? I've just googled red tape tip line New
Zealand doesn't come up. It's not very helpful, is it.

Speaker 1 (58:48):
It's not a hoax, is it? What's the date? Rember? No?

Speaker 2 (58:55):
Never the hurdarchy breakfast already hurdy.

Speaker 1 (58:59):
Morgan p from the Sex dot Life podcast joins us
on the show this morning and as a Texas just coming.
When is Morgan doing another sex dot Life podcast? Because
you've done two seasons? Is that right? Morgan?

Speaker 4 (59:12):
Correct?

Speaker 5 (59:13):
And I'm wondering about doing season three. But there's a
lot of pressure because season one, nobody had heard someone
go into like pretty much a sex cult undercover and
do all this weird stuff like humping the ground and
smearing menstrual blood on my forehead. And you know, it
was a wild, wild time. It sounds what And then
season two I kind of went into the kink community,

(59:36):
went to different kind of parties and experiences, and people
just could not believe this was going on on a
Thursday night while they're at home watching Netflix and I'm
out there wrestling in a sexual way. And so now
season three, people are hungry for it and they're like,
give us.

Speaker 2 (59:53):
Give that to us.

Speaker 1 (59:54):
Yeah, but you've I guess you've You're how do you
how do you raise the intensity on going into the
kink community. Are there more crazy sexual things that are
out there for you to explore or have you possibly
explored all of the crazy things? Or do you think
there is more?

Speaker 5 (01:00:15):
There is more? There is definitely more. There's another layer
underneath that. And I have to be really careful because
with the kink community, I thought I was doing something
quite good, like I was bringing things into the light.
I was sharing that there were places for people to
go if they wanted to dress.

Speaker 4 (01:00:28):
Up as a furry as a dog or a horse.

Speaker 5 (01:00:31):
You know, there are other like minded people that you
can go and do these kinds of things with. But
actually the kink community get off on the hiddenness of it,
so they don't want that in the light. And I
have to be really protective, you know, like I'm a
sex positive person. I'm trying to be part of the community.
But there is so much more that is going on

(01:00:53):
that people don't even know about sex is.

Speaker 1 (01:00:56):
So to do, yes, but how do you explore How
do you explore it? How do you research that? If
it is a hidden community, do people contact you and say, hey,
have you heard about this particular thing? Or I mean
you can't exactly advertise.

Speaker 3 (01:01:11):
No.

Speaker 5 (01:01:12):
I do have people inviting me to certain things, and
sometimes they go and sometimes they don't. When I was
in Australia recently, I went to a few fetish parties
and yeah, I mean there's just more things that are happening.
And I think New Zealand we're still quite infantile and
a lot of things because I really saw some things

(01:01:35):
over there.

Speaker 1 (01:01:35):
Is all of this stuff happening everywhere around New Zealand
or in your experience, is it just happening in main centers.

Speaker 5 (01:01:42):
Oh, It's happening everywhere. Like the Spiritual sex cult that
I went to was in a very rural town, like
people could not I haven't even disclosed it because it's
too risk game.

Speaker 1 (01:01:55):
Okay. So in terms of people who haven't heard about
their spiritual sex cult, just a top line explanation around
what it was about about.

Speaker 5 (01:02:06):
Yeah, so it's central spiritual sex. So it's about coming
into your body, but in an ethereal way. So we
did energetic in our hearts, would pretend we had genitals,
and we would make some kind of penetrative action and feeling.
So you're actually working with the energetics, like I had
a big bang.

Speaker 4 (01:02:26):
We could call it energetically.

Speaker 5 (01:02:28):
Okay, for the first time while I was there, I
did not know that was possible with my body.

Speaker 4 (01:02:34):
But yeah, it's just.

Speaker 5 (01:02:34):
To go there and expand to learn how to connect
with people differently. One good thing was really learning honing
my communication around these kind of acts of how to
talk to people in those moments, and we're bad at
that in this country.

Speaker 1 (01:02:49):
So you're really using yourself as the vehicle to explore
all of these things that must have a toll.

Speaker 5 (01:02:56):
It does, and that's how I'm feeling about season three.
I don't really want to put my body on the
line anymore because I went into a spanking session in
season two and it triggered my body. It took me
back to childhood spanking, you know. And so this is
what I wonder about all these kind of things, is like,
is this a safe space to be doing these things

(01:03:17):
if we don't know our own wounding?

Speaker 4 (01:03:19):
And it does. My nervous system was blown out that night.

Speaker 1 (01:03:22):
Okay, Okay, so you're looking slightly forward to a new season,
but also I imagine there's a sense of trepidation.

Speaker 4 (01:03:33):
Yes, I feel like I need an apprentice if anyone's keen.

Speaker 1 (01:03:37):
Well mashes away today. But he certainly would be putting
his hand up right now.

Speaker 4 (01:03:41):
He would be perfect, he'd love it.

Speaker 3 (01:03:43):
Could you call him more of an intern rather than apprentice?
And then I think you got him.

Speaker 4 (01:03:48):
Okay, he needs a good title, does he?

Speaker 1 (01:03:50):
Yeah? He likes not to be paid, so so you know.
The great thing is if it's an intern, you can
basically use them as a slave and I have to
pay them. So a mash is more than happy to
do that. All right, let's put us in mashes. You
sign them up?

Speaker 3 (01:04:03):
Sounds great?

Speaker 1 (01:04:04):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:04:04):
They breakfast a radio.

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(01:04:27):
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(01:04:48):
celebrity caddy.

Speaker 4 (01:04:49):
Have you got an outfit for Am yet?

Speaker 1 (01:04:51):
Not yet, Morgan, and it's gonna be Let's just say,
I want it to be something that people remember. Okay,
you know, as the media team, we're not there myself,
Bryce and die Hainward are not there to I don't know.
I don't think people are there to watch our golf.

(01:05:11):
Put it that way. We need to we need to
entertain people, agreed, And I think I can entertain people
with some bad golf shots because I do have the
yeps at the moment, which is not ideal, trying to
work my way through there, but I think we can
also entertain people with our tie, and I think Mash
for some reason, I just can't move away from the
idea of arseless chaps. I don't know why.

Speaker 3 (01:05:33):
I guess I'm just a little concerned because obviously Mash
is away from the show. Today's sick, and so I've
had to fill in. So what if we sick on
December thirteen?

Speaker 1 (01:05:42):
Well, are you saying that?

Speaker 3 (01:05:43):
Well, I'm concerned that I might be asked to Yeah,
you'd be amazing.

Speaker 1 (01:05:49):
Could be fine.

Speaker 4 (01:05:50):
Have you been squatting?

Speaker 3 (01:05:52):
I've got no golf advice.

Speaker 1 (01:05:53):
I can tell you that that's fine. Mass is not
going to give me any golf as long as you
can carry.

Speaker 3 (01:05:59):
A bag ruder, all right, I can do that.

Speaker 1 (01:06:01):
And you look good in a pair of barseless chats.

Speaker 3 (01:06:03):
Thanks for sure. No, no, no, no, no, it's not for me.

Speaker 2 (01:06:06):
The hod ack you breakfast with Jeremy Wells Alreadyoki.

Speaker 1 (01:06:10):
So I saw yesterday the lake Topel Hall and one
challenge you know where you get ten thousand dollars if
you score a hole in one on the platform. And
eleven year old One's speaking of chasing the Fox and
golf and eleven year old Elijah Allis has become the
youngest ever person to nail it. He's from Todonger and
he was in topl for the Bay of Plenty Age

(01:06:32):
Group Championships and he decided to go and have a
crack at the Hole on one challenge.

Speaker 4 (01:06:37):
Hey serious though, he's got a glove on.

Speaker 1 (01:06:39):
Yeah a photo. Yeah? How many people were a glove
when they're doing the whole of one challenge? So it's
one hundred and two meters the whole on one challenge.
It looks like a relatively still day, which sort of
helps and Andy. So he was halfway through his bucket
of fifty balls when he hit the winning shot. He's said,

(01:06:59):
and I go on, get in, go on, get on,
And everyone thought it didn't go in, but then I
screamed it did. He thought he was dreaming, he said.
There was a big crowd and they started to cheer.
He said that he's still in shock after winning the
ultimate prize. He's going to take his family on a
holiday to Australia. Isn't that nice?

Speaker 4 (01:07:17):
Honestly? How much skill is involved in that or is
that a fluke?

Speaker 1 (01:07:21):
Well that's a good question. I mean, obviously to get
the ball close to the hole, you could fluke it,
but it takes a certain amount of skill even to
fluke it. It's quite a complex one, the old hole
in one, because it's just a game of literally millimeters,
you know, like a tiny little movement of your hand
in one way or another will change the trajectory of

(01:07:43):
the ball at impact, which has a huge effect of
where it lands because you know, it's one hundred meters away,
so it sends it off on a trajectory that makes
a massive difference. So it's luck, but it's also there's
an element of skill to it as well. It's not
complete luck, but yeah, I mean a lot of people

(01:08:03):
play very very good golfers, play their whole life like
really good golfers, professional golfers, and never never get a
hold on one.

Speaker 4 (01:08:11):
Oh right, Elijah, you little ripper.

Speaker 1 (01:08:14):
Yeah, so Elijah ten thousand dollars. So the previous youngest
winner I was reading was fourteen year old Kevin Bang
and I'm pretty sure he lived in Rotro and he
won it in January. So there's a bunch of bunch
of young golfers that are coming through now, and I
think golf is becoming more and more popular as a sport,
and it makes a lot of sense because we've got
a lot of golf clubs in New Zealand, more golf

(01:08:35):
clubs in New Zealand, I think per capitably anyone else
in the world. What, yeah, we've got all the space. True. Yeah,
And it's affordable in New Zealand, whereas I mean it's
still expensive sport, but it's more affordable in New Zealand.
And say what it is certainly in place like Asia,
it's insane interesting. So good on Elijah. That's that's bloody awesome.

Speaker 3 (01:08:58):
Elijah Ellis should get Elijah Ellis to come along to
Chasing the Fox.

Speaker 1 (01:09:03):
Will He certainly hits the ball, probably better than me,
that's for sure. Wouldn't be hard. Thanks very much for
listening to The Hierarchy Breakfast this morning, and Morgan pen
thanks for coming in.

Speaker 4 (01:09:12):
Oh my pleasure.

Speaker 1 (01:09:13):
Always lovely to have you.

Speaker 4 (01:09:15):
It was the best morning.

Speaker 3 (01:09:17):
Thanks very much, Ruder, thanks mate, ge I hope Mesh's
back Tom I dismiss him.

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