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August 21, 2024 38 mins

today on the Daily Bespoke podcast, friend of the show Mike Hall comes in to talk about his debut solo album ‘NOTHING STANDS STILL’

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Why is he laughing? Okay, that's right, perfect timing.

Speaker 2 (00:08):
I don't miss It's good busy.

Speaker 1 (00:26):
I like that.

Speaker 3 (00:28):
Hell, we've got Michael coming onto the Daddy Bespoke Podcast today.
Michael Fluto fame and also radiohodec Voice fame the show
and it used to before Ruda was here. He was
the person that would sing our songs. If we needed
a song, Michael would sing the song Great New Zealander,

(00:50):
fantastic Fowler. So welcome all you bespokey donkies too the
Daidy Bespoke Podcast for the twenty second of the eighth
in the Year of Our Lord twenty twenty four, I
got to communicate from someone that's in the podcast industry
and they said, I've noticed you started saying welcome all
you bespokey dokies to the Daily Bespoke Podcast. And he
was saying, is that a strategy? Is that a state?

(01:11):
He said, is that a strategy to make it feel
more like a club? And I said, what did you say?
I said, I haven't responded, Aly, okay, but I thought no,
I just thought it was a funny thing to say,
Oh right, welcome all you bespokey dokey to the Daily
Bespoke podcast.

Speaker 1 (01:27):
Maybe a subconscious strategy, but.

Speaker 3 (01:29):
There's a rising tight of people that want to walk
around referring to themselves as bespokey dokies.

Speaker 1 (01:34):
No, in fact, it probably works the other way around. Really,
people go to people embarrassed to be part of the club, right,
you know.

Speaker 3 (01:40):
So someone comes up to me and goes, oh God,
you're not a bespokey dokie, are you. And also a
lot of people probably don't get the reference to cruise
in with spoke you dog kies, moving with spoke good
dog keys.

Speaker 1 (01:51):
Get up on and have some fun. Spokey doggies are
all the fun. Cruise in with spoke good dogy cruise
in spok es. Don't even know what spoky doakey's are,
do you? No?

Speaker 4 (02:02):
I know exactly what they are. I never had spoky dokies.

Speaker 1 (02:05):
Little plastic things that go on your spokes and when
you go really slowly they gookok took it all fall down.
They go from the top because of the centrifugal force.

Speaker 3 (02:15):
How would you spell spoky dokies if I could try
and find the SAIDs p O, yes, K yes e
y yes d yeah, here we go. Spoky Dokies is
still available. You can still get them. Four ninety ninety five.

Speaker 1 (02:28):
The Spoky Dokeies.

Speaker 3 (02:29):
Jesus, okay, here we get, Here we go.

Speaker 1 (02:31):
Are you ready? Here we go? Have you got the song?

Speaker 3 (02:33):
I think I have his?

Speaker 1 (02:34):
Oh I think I might have got a trait cruising
the spoky Dokies. I mean they were embarrassing at the time.
Nobody was spoky Dokeyes, oh God, Like if you had
spoky dookey's on your B mix, you were such a
If you.

Speaker 3 (02:46):
Had spoken dokeys on your B mix, you were getting
a loser, you were getting a hide and.

Speaker 1 (02:49):
You were an absolute Like if you were a stack cat,
if you wore a stack cat or your head spoke
they came out at the same time. Stat cats and
spokey dokeies. Brain bucket. God, that was a cringey time
to be New Zealander. And what about bartle Bullets and.

Speaker 3 (03:04):
Spoky Dokies add the New Zealand.

Speaker 1 (03:08):
I feel sorry for people whose parents put spoky Dokies
on their bike and then like their Christmas time and
they go, hey, look I got this Christmas present, and
then the kids it read the most uncol thing ever done.
I imagine there's heaps of kids out there that.

Speaker 4 (03:23):
I think I wanted them, but I never had them.

Speaker 1 (03:26):
You're a bit younger, maybe, so they may have been
cool for your age group.

Speaker 4 (03:30):
Yeah, that might be it, but they were not cool
for me. It's just because I never had them.

Speaker 1 (03:33):
And whose kids whose parents bought them a stack cat?
Because nobody wore bike helmets in those days. What's the
stack had this embarrassing bike helmet that had side burnbs
that came down and there was a humiliators in New
Zealand bike helmet.

Speaker 5 (03:48):
I'm not familiar with the stack head.

Speaker 1 (03:50):
Yes it was, and it had a humiliating ad that
went with it, that head like New Zealand singing and stuff.
And in those days anything coming from New Zealand was embarrassing.
Things from New Zealand sucked, and things from overseas were
cool and it was that wasn't that was not good.
It's still a.

Speaker 4 (04:08):
Bit like that, like a lot of New Zealanders that
generally don't make it big here and then they'll go
over seas. Let's say a musician, they'll go overseas, get
a smash out and then everyone's.

Speaker 1 (04:17):
Like, ah, Boddy, oh my, I was so brawdy, you come.

Speaker 4 (04:20):
And embrace them. It was it was Tiger like that.
Everyone's big on Tiger once he went overseas and got successful.

Speaker 1 (04:27):
Yep, probably a little bit like that. He's like the
stackhead of directors. Oh, people are.

Speaker 3 (04:32):
Off them now in the States. Why is that because
he made a bad movie. He made It's a lot
of good movies. Well, I cannot find the cruising with
Spoky Dokey's head like that is.

Speaker 1 (04:43):
What is the fucking It was a crapead.

Speaker 3 (04:46):
What is the point of the internet if I can't
find in with?

Speaker 1 (04:50):
Can I say that as well?

Speaker 4 (04:51):
Matt the person that said that, we basically just using
it as a marketing campaign. It's very cynical because I
think that Matt's it is a very inclusive kind of
person and he wants to welcome everyone to the podcast
and start spreading that love. And then someone has brought
a niggative vibe onto not only Matt, but onto this
show and I'm fucking sick of it.

Speaker 1 (05:13):
Yeah, wow, okay, you're really taking a stand on this one.

Speaker 4 (05:16):
And you give me their number, I'm gonna I think,
In fact, I think I know who it is.

Speaker 1 (05:22):
Oh, you know who it is.

Speaker 4 (05:23):
I think I know who it is.

Speaker 3 (05:24):
This this is, this says here, this thing says cruising
with Spoky Dokies. But there's no, that's not the screwsing
cruising with spoken Doc.

Speaker 1 (05:35):
He's always giving just cruising with spoky Dokeies.

Speaker 3 (05:38):
Maybe they don't even have it, but Spokey dokis on there.

Speaker 1 (05:40):
It's backpacking the Black Hill. No, they're not cruising with spokey.
This is misleading this video.

Speaker 3 (05:49):
It's also zero comments in no views, but it's also
misleading because it's saying cruising with spoky dokies. And the
Mountain biker doesn't have spoky donkeys on his bike and
he doesn't have the Spoky Docky song.

Speaker 1 (06:01):
So I'm wishing we never even brought up Spoky Dooky.

Speaker 3 (06:03):
Spoky dock is killing me. Actually it's actually killing me.

Speaker 1 (06:06):
I'm wishing we never bought it up. Does anyone else
get that thing?

Speaker 6 (06:09):
Where?

Speaker 1 (06:10):
Though? Something that really cuts me deep as that idea
of a present that someone gets someone and they get
it and they are really hopeful that the person they're
getting it out of love for a person. I have
received these presents myself as a kid, and someone will
give you something and they really they don't have to
get you anything, and you don't expect that they get
you anything, and then they go and get you something,

(06:31):
but it's not it's so wrong what they've got you,
and it's just not at all what you want. It's
just so far away from what you want. But they've
given it to you and the hope that you'd like it,
and he's going to pretend that you do like it,
but you don't like it, and yeah, I find that
so upset. And because the person's come to you and
they've done a nice thing, Yeah, it's so far away

(06:54):
from I find that a tragic situation.

Speaker 4 (06:57):
Have you got a personal example with this has happened
to you?

Speaker 1 (07:00):
Once? Got a I once when I was quite old,
a family friend bought me for my birthday. I didn't
need to buy me a prison, like I did not
expect for them to buy me a prison. I never
I never expected them to buy me a prison. They
bought me a prison, and it was really nice of
them to think to buy me a prison. But it
was a pop gun. And I was like twelve, A

(07:23):
pop gun, A pop gun, you know, I remember pop guns?
And you put the sort of pump them and they
fire out a pop, they fire out a cork. But
when a string attached to it, it was nice. It
was a nice gift, you know, But you threw it
back in his face, And no, I didn't try it
in his face, but I pretended that it was. You
know that I was thankful for it, and and I

(07:45):
was thankful for the thought. Yeah, but that was just
it just was so far away from where I was
as a twelve year old, Like, you're not a pop guns,
like maybe something you might get an eight year old
or something like that. And it's so ingrained in me
that now I would I would rather not get a
present for someone because the feeling that I had of shame,

(08:08):
of thinking that I didn't like this present that someone
had done actually met. You've talked about a situation that
you had the same situation with something of your dad
made for you, and just that feeling is still cuts
It cuts me.

Speaker 5 (08:22):
Do you know. I've got a situation with my girlfriend's
family that is quite new to me, and it's that
they are a gift giving family. They talk about how
they feel about the gift after they receive it. I'm
from a family that when you receive a gift is
no matter what the fuck it is, is that you're
very thankful for it and you're excited about it. So
thank you, and you know you're.

Speaker 3 (08:39):
Posting ghost post and ghost kind of situation.

Speaker 1 (08:41):
That's right.

Speaker 5 (08:42):
But my girlfriend's family is a little bit more honest
and a little bit harsher when it comes to gift giving.
And I'd never really experienced it before, Like you're at
Christmas or something like that, and you go, oh, what
am I going to do with this kind of thing?
And it was and everyone there's still a lot of
love in the room. Yeah, it was what I figured out,
But people were just far more honest than it had
ever been around gifts before.

Speaker 1 (08:58):
Yeah, and it was quite bizarre. That's interesting.

Speaker 5 (09:00):
Yeah, do you guys have that at home? Like you
guys like if you get a gift, if you taught
your kids, if you get a gift, you say thanks
to everything always.

Speaker 1 (09:06):
And read the card first.

Speaker 5 (09:08):
You read the card, card first, Read the card first,
and then shake the No, you shake the card. Read
the card.

Speaker 3 (09:15):
But I think that with the yeah, the pres I
think with the read the card first thing though, the
problem is in a way that you know you're given
a present and then you want to give it to
your friend and you've got the card, and this is
when your kid and the parents start going read the
card first. And then you feel disrespected that they're not
reading the card first. But if they didn't say you
don't care about the card, you care about the prison present,

(09:35):
suddenly you're on the back foot because you're on the
back foot because now it's looking like your friend didn't
want to read the card.

Speaker 4 (09:42):
But you know, quite often as well, the card is
like a precursor to the gift. For instance, matter if
I bought you a birthday present, it might say, Hey, Matt,
happy birthday, here's something for the boudoir, winky face, and
then you open the gift. So otherwise, you open the
gift and you're like, why have you got me handcuffs?
And then it's like, oh, here's something for the bedroom.

Speaker 1 (10:00):
I think it doesn't work yeah with the joke card
like that, or when the joke when the card references
the prison. But if not, then it's just disrespectful to
not read the card first. The card is a who
the presents from, yes, which is which is important, but
b true, you're not going to open the prison and
then read the card after just because it's gonna it
just seems a little bit flippant. It seems like call

(10:23):
me grumpy.

Speaker 5 (10:23):
But I think cards are just silly because look, there's
like ten bucks for a card these days. I think
we just got it as a society. We're just going
to move on from cards.

Speaker 1 (10:31):
I think prison. I think the other way around. I
think the presence of the stupid thing and the card
is the good bit card. Just give a card, give
a prison.

Speaker 5 (10:38):
No, I disagree with that other way around, mate, because
you've got everything you've ever needed.

Speaker 1 (10:43):
You well, well, I to be honest me.

Speaker 5 (10:46):
You know, like there's no point you know what I mean?

Speaker 1 (10:48):
If I want something and I'll go and get it.

Speaker 4 (10:50):
Yeah, okay everything.

Speaker 1 (10:54):
Man on campus, hold on wethern reason.

Speaker 3 (10:57):
If I gave you the Hope diamond, you'd say, I
don't need. If I wanted the Hope diamond, I would
have bought it myself.

Speaker 1 (11:02):
You would never give me the Hope diamond. You don't
know that you would never give me. By the way,
what is the hope The price range of things that
people give for presents. You know what I mean? If
I wanted anything that I go and get it. But
if you're a kid, different story. Yeah, that's why.

Speaker 5 (11:15):
That's how I feel about present. When you're still excited
about presents.

Speaker 1 (11:18):
You know, in terms of a partner, I mean when
you're going out with someone for as long as I've
been going with Toulsi for and you share a joint
bank account, it's a thought. I understand that part of
the prison.

Speaker 3 (11:27):
I probably won't get you the Hope diamond. It's worth
three d and fifty million.

Speaker 5 (11:30):
Do you still do that thing on Tozsi's be cut
the bottom out of that present and stick you in it,
and then you give that to it.

Speaker 1 (11:36):
Well, more recently I have tried that performation. It is
very effective. But more recently I have tried something where
I take to social media.

Speaker 5 (11:45):
You take to social media.

Speaker 1 (11:46):
I take to social media. I don't just go on
to my phone. I take to it beautiful and I
write something that's really really like, I say, twenty what
is it? Twenty four years with this one, twenty four
glory oh years with this one?

Speaker 3 (12:03):
So you're cheating on Tozsy And what would make.

Speaker 1 (12:06):
You think that? Just because I've think a really really
nice message to everyone, I'm sitting beside her.

Speaker 3 (12:10):
Yeah, yeah, because it just feels like you're trying to
cover up for something like why would you post that
out if you went cheating on Tolsi?

Speaker 1 (12:17):
And then I just go on and on and on
about how special she is and how I want to
I take to social media to do it.

Speaker 3 (12:23):
And you say that she's the most specially amazing person.
But then all your friends go, well, you guys had
a mess of Barney when we went out for dinner
the other night, and he's cheating on you, and you
know that you hate each other. I mean, I'm really
only talking about a very cynical way of looking at
social media where because I just know a few people
over the years that have been doing that, and I
know how bad the relationship is, and it always seems

(12:43):
odd to me to lie to the world.

Speaker 1 (12:45):
That's really what we're talking about. But when you do that,
I think it's possibly disrespectful not only to your partner,
but also to everybody who knows the truth.

Speaker 4 (12:53):
Yeah, and the people that don't know the truth, they
sit they're going, oh, bloody, Jerry and.

Speaker 1 (12:58):
Tulsi have an amazing the best relationship. Makes feel bad, Yeah,
that's the but that's that's why I do. Some people
use social media.

Speaker 3 (13:08):
Some people use social media purposely purely to make them
seem better, and other people seem bad.

Speaker 1 (13:15):
Yeah, that's the only reason I use it.

Speaker 4 (13:18):
My My wife's workplaces ruined me getting flowers for her
because I went through a phase of, you know, just
every few months would send you flowers to work because
I thought it was just such a nice thing to do.

Speaker 5 (13:28):
Well, you got to do that after you helk up
with someone else.

Speaker 4 (13:31):
Funny you say that, mesh, because that's exactly what I mean.

Speaker 1 (13:34):
Every time she's like, can you actually apologizing for because
they it's always because she's worked with the whole of guys,
and they're like, what's he done? What's he done wrong?
What regard? What did you do?

Speaker 4 (13:47):
She had a birthday, She had a fucking birthday, and
so I got her the present of flowers, which of
course we're exorbitantly high in price, but it's me showing
that I love her rather than just picking them up
and dropping them off myself and looking like a chea
bars and then he runs like, oh he's cheating on you,
like you wow.

Speaker 3 (14:08):
If I see a bouquet or over at work for
a woman, I'm like Jesus Christ, what's he done?

Speaker 1 (14:14):
I think every time I see it home, because how
do you get them?

Speaker 7 (14:19):
Now?

Speaker 1 (14:19):
How do you get to them home? Because it's annoying.
You're gonna get them in the car and put them
in water, walk around, send them home yourself.

Speaker 3 (14:26):
I once had a girlfriend and i'd been away and
I came home to my flat and she had brought
me a whole bunch of flowers and put them on
my bed. And I went into my room and my
mates had been waiting for me in the cupboard, and
when I picked them up, prong healthy, a bunch of

(14:46):
other dudes jumped down the cabin and called me a
homophobic slur for getting flowers, which one because they saw
her come into the house about them, and then they followed,
followed upstairs and then waded me to get home from UNI.

Speaker 4 (15:01):
Changed at different times.

Speaker 1 (15:05):
Did they punch you at all?

Speaker 2 (15:06):
In the arms?

Speaker 1 (15:08):
Nice pants down and with the flowers? And that was?
That was? That was, and you know what that was
the real prison especially, there's a lot to take on.

Speaker 3 (15:22):
It's a lot for a guy to take on when
he's been on holiday, came home, I had to go
to UNI looking forward to getting home.

Speaker 5 (15:29):
Yeah, you've been up all night with other women.

Speaker 3 (15:35):
Yeah, but also going back to prisons. I got a
spud gun when I was young, and it was oh
favorite thing in the world because I'd go and I
fire it and I had the greatest day running around
the house, firing at my sister's, firing at everyone in
the house. And then it went missing, and I was like,
for my whole life is like, how could I lose
the best brit You're talking about that pop gun. This
was a spud gun.

Speaker 1 (15:55):
It's so good. How could I.

Speaker 3 (15:57):
Lose that amazing thing. It was the first spud gun
i'd had that fire real like. It actually gave some
some whack to it, had a good projectile out of it,
and for years I was like, my God, and then
I actually bought it up. I bought it up at
Christmas and I said, you know what, one of the
things that really bags me about my childhood is that
I lost that spud gun because that spud.

Speaker 1 (16:15):
Coun was so good.

Speaker 3 (16:15):
And my parents are like, yeah, you shot everyone in
the house. You were chasing the dog around with the
spud gun and the spodgun witnessing we took.

Speaker 1 (16:24):
It off you. We're smart. We good parenting. We got
rid of it. Yeah, good parenting.

Speaker 3 (16:28):
But I lived in horror and hated myself for losing
it for so long because it was such a great
It was a metal spud gun. It was so powerful.

Speaker 1 (16:37):
That's nice, it was so good.

Speaker 3 (16:38):
And then yeah, but I do get it now because
I was running around the house with the spok.

Speaker 1 (16:43):
Because of you. If they'd taken it off you and
they would have had to have placed the music. So
they're like, let's just me, you know, So either way,
someone was going to get punished. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (16:54):
My grandparents always had a habit of giving me gifts
that I had to spend like ages making Like I'm
just I was trying to think of like I got
the same tops of prisons from everyone. I had one
set of grand parents that were very focused on gifting
me things I could kill flies with. Like there was
always like a fly swade or one of those into yeah, one.

Speaker 1 (17:13):
Of those something you could pull the wings off flies.

Speaker 5 (17:15):
The electric tennis racket, you know, all that kind of stuff,
or one of those fly guns. It's a little bit
similar to a spud gun, but it has one of
those like circle things on the end of it that
shoots out of it and it can kill a fly
on the wall. He goes familiar with that. Yes, I
got one of those. But then I had one great
sit of grandparents whould almost given me stuff. They would
just take ages to make robots and stuff like that.

Speaker 1 (17:33):
Yeah, they wanted to make you a bit of person.

Speaker 5 (17:34):
They didn't want to make me a better person.

Speaker 1 (17:35):
Yeah, that's the kind of work. Yeah, did you make
the things?

Speaker 3 (17:38):
I always made the things, and I just had a memory.
And this is kind off topic, but Jeremy, you might
remember this. I was watching the show That's Incredible and
they had this incredible thing where they stuck glued flies
to a buy wing plane made out of paper and
balsal wood, and then so they glued the flies to it.

(17:58):
They were still alive and it flew, So it flew
like they were little engines.

Speaker 5 (18:02):
Oh, Michael, welcome to them.

Speaker 1 (18:05):
To step out. We'll take a break and we'll be
back with Mike Hall in just a moment.

Speaker 5 (18:12):
Let me just play that door sound effect. So Mike
coming around, how are you bro all right?

Speaker 1 (18:20):
Good?

Speaker 2 (18:20):
Thanks?

Speaker 5 (18:21):
Good man? As you at least just start this bit,
Jay and then we can never do on to you.

Speaker 1 (18:27):
And Welcome to the podcast.

Speaker 3 (18:28):
Mike hal X, Voice of ex Voice of Radiodeki.

Speaker 2 (18:33):
Oh yeah, man, that's I don't want to relitigate. But
how about yesterday bespokey.

Speaker 1 (18:40):
Behind the curtain at the advertising industry.

Speaker 2 (18:42):
I know, it's like it was, You're talking about a
whole bunch of my life and I wasn't even there.

Speaker 1 (18:50):
Do you know what I thought you were above that?
You know, I thought that you were operating an initial
on above being the moron or the person who knows
a whole lot of things. I thought you've I've never
heard you play more on or a or a non
You're normally operating as a corporate voice, so just you're
in a higher bracket.

Speaker 2 (19:05):
I would have thought, I mean, I appreciate that, but
I've been definitely in the moron zone.

Speaker 1 (19:10):
You've done that before.

Speaker 2 (19:12):
I've done that yelly sort of thing, you know, where
you're like trying to sell a wheatst record or something.

Speaker 1 (19:16):
Oh yeah, okay, that's very specific. Yeah, remember.

Speaker 2 (19:22):
Yes, screaming like or you're I mean, I also speak Japanese,
so sometimes it'd be like Japanese Japanese anime or something,
and you'd be like, you know, like it so full
high pitch guy. There's been a bit of moron stuff,
but yeah, I'm really I really enjoyed that. That Yesterday's
reflection on the voice.

Speaker 1 (19:40):
Over industry well funny funny because there's about probably thirty
people that did and they're all voiceover. I've always mean
to ask you a question.

Speaker 3 (19:47):
You were the voice of a tel com on when
you rang up, wouldn't you for a while?

Speaker 1 (19:50):
I feel like you still are because I just did
you two days ago.

Speaker 2 (19:53):
You're not supposed to talk about it, but yes, I mean,
I'm the third best voice over on my street in
green Lynd. I think, so I got that gig. I mean,
that's the joke, isn't it. That there's like you sort
of don't really have any confidence as a voiceover, but
you get the work and you're like, maybe I should
feel good about myself, But you're just a voice monkey.

Speaker 1 (20:11):
You've got a great voice of warmth. There's a warmth
to yeah, warmth to what you say.

Speaker 3 (20:16):
That's that's worth worth worth a lot.

Speaker 2 (20:18):
That's very kind. I mean, there was a time I
think there was a golden patch. If I reflect, there
was a golden patch where it was like I sort
of went, there was a whole bunch of stuff I'd done,
And I guess that's what I'm saying is like, if
you can go ten years back and you go, were
you the voice of this? Yeah? It was how are
you the voice of the way House?

Speaker 1 (20:34):
Yeah it was that.

Speaker 2 (20:35):
Were you in?

Speaker 1 (20:35):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (20:36):
It was that? And then you go, what does it
all mean?

Speaker 1 (20:38):
Do you know what I mean?

Speaker 3 (20:41):
Sometimes it would mean there were three TV ads in
a row with your voice on them.

Speaker 2 (20:44):
Yeah, But ultimately I think it's great. It pays the
bills so you can do the other cool stuff. Yeah,
that's the voice over.

Speaker 1 (20:50):
Do you're not considered Do you not consider it a
The word trade is not quite right, but a skill
in the sense that it's something that you learn over
time and you're always adding to it. What's the word
I don't want? It's not trade. It's something else, and
it's kind of like trade. But essentially there is an

(21:14):
artistry to it. Do you not consider it that? Do
you do you think it's just kind of something that
you don't want to talk about?

Speaker 2 (21:19):
Well, there was the time that your reference where it's
like in about nineteen ninety eight, they went, we want
to step away from the guys that talk like this,
yeah to oh, just talk like you're talking to your
mate in the bar. But I'm selling like a handsaw
or something. Yeah, I'm not going to do that in
the bar. At that stage, I think there wasn't a

(21:39):
huge amount of skill. But I think I think the
skill is like reading ahead, or being able to be directed,
being able to make a dick yourself and not worry
about it. I'm quite sad at that.

Speaker 1 (21:48):
That's hard.

Speaker 2 (21:48):
Oh you see, that's a skill of mine. So maybe
there is a skill like a learning. Maybe there is.
I mean that's a question. I don't have the answer
to that.

Speaker 1 (21:55):
Yeah, do you reckon? How much do you reckon? Of
being a successful voice artists? Is actually taking ego out
of it? Oh?

Speaker 2 (22:03):
Huge? Huge, And I think that's where some actors struggle. Yeah,
you know, so the actors go in and they're like,
give me my motivation? Who am I? What's you know?
Where is this in my life? Is like, mate, you're
just you're actually just selling pens.

Speaker 1 (22:17):
Yeah, so just.

Speaker 2 (22:18):
Read it as fast as you can. When it's forty words,
it's fifteen seconds. If you can't get the job down,
get out.

Speaker 3 (22:25):
I used to like because I do a lot of
voice work here and there, and I used to prepare
and that was a disaster because you'd go in with
an idea in your head. So like when your agent
sends you the script, now I will never read it
because otherwise I'll go in and I'll and I'll have
a decision that I've made. And you just got to
wait to be humiliated by both the the everyone from

(22:46):
the ad agency and then the client that comes in
and humiliates you, and then someone that's bringing the sushi
comes in to humiliate you.

Speaker 2 (22:55):
And the sushi is never for you. There's always lunch
for everybody else. You're like, oh, you're in the hey,
I'm going it. Yeah, I'm not even hungry. I'm not.

Speaker 3 (23:04):
You're standing in the booth and people start doing their
orders and there they're on the menus and they go, oh,
do you think I might get the SELLID.

Speaker 1 (23:12):
I'm standing there.

Speaker 3 (23:12):
So there is a little bit of humiliation totally, and
it it's really bad if you're in a if you're
not feeling it and you're looking forward to and then
you look down in your book for two hours and
you're like, I can't do two hours.

Speaker 1 (23:25):
No, two hours is a big session. I once did
the thing with Michael Morrissey, and I haven't done. I
used to do voice over. Its quite a lot of voices,
and then I sort of stopped doing them. I started
doing stuff for Meridian, and part of the deal was
I couldn't do things for anyone else, so I stopped
doing them. But after during that time, Michael Morrissey came
in and did some stuff for us. And he's a

(23:45):
famous he was the telecom guy that went please hold
the lane. He's got that really kind of nice, beautiful,
beautiful voice. Anyway, very very successful voiceover artist. And I
watched him come in and do some voice and he
did it really interesting thing. He it was a performance.
I realized it was a full performance. He was playing
the role of this person, this voice of a person.

(24:08):
But he had complete control of the script. When he
walked in, he went BAA. He did this whole thing,
and he put his headphones on and he told the
audio engineer to do some things so he don't know,
I need more in the blah blah blah blah blah blah.
And then he read it, read the script and then
he goes and then he goes Take two and then
he goes blah blah blah blah, and he read it
and then he goes, I'll give you a third take

(24:29):
da da da, and read it slightly differently than he
goes take four, and then did it like four takes
and then goes, hell are those And immediately you go,
you've got four takes. They're slightly different, but each one
perfect in its own way. And at that point like
good luck coming back and saying oh, actually maybe, but
he just took complete charge of it, and I thought, oh,

(24:51):
that's a good that's a that's how you want to
do it. That's experience right there on the day in
Queenstown with the new man in their life. Turns out
to be quite a revelation that happen.

Speaker 3 (25:01):
The proposal a whole new way of falling in love.

Speaker 2 (25:06):
That's the nicest pipes. And then you find yourself in
a gig where you're the voice for Radio Hotakey or
something like that, and then you're basically given a whole
bunch of stuff to sing maybe yeah, you know, and
then you're like, what.

Speaker 1 (25:20):
Is what is this? What happened? We got you to
sing a lot of our comedy numbers.

Speaker 2 (25:26):
I mean, it was a glorious time. Devin Conway. I'll
never forget doing Fleetwood Mac and finally realizing just how
high Lindsay bucket.

Speaker 3 (25:34):
And that's a tough one because the harmonies are so
the four part armies are so hard.

Speaker 2 (25:39):
And also because you wanted to really give, like really
proper reverence to Devin Conway. I don't want to mess
that up. At the time, he'd just come onto the scene,
he'd got all those big runs. He was like our
kind of light, and you know, it was like, Okay,
Williamson is going to have somebody with him now. You know,
I want to make up that song.

Speaker 3 (25:59):
And you know, well, speaking of music, obviously you you
are also a musician and you've got it. You've got
an album out, and of course you are in Pluto
and you've been a musician for a very long time.
And we were just listening to a song actually before very.

Speaker 2 (26:16):
Very nice, thanks, very very very nice. Beatlely Well, yeah,
I mean you guys talked about the Beatles the couple
of days ago. It's like, yeah, I guess, I guess
there's been a few people that have said that about
the album. I mean, I think I first I met
you guys first through music, you know, Like I was
on BFM and the nineties doing a show ninety four

(26:38):
or something, and we probably played gigs together. Yeah, and
Balance and other Pluto and things like that. So yeah,
I haven't really I haven't really stopped, but I just
stopped releasing releasing my own music or Pluto's sort of
slow down. So a lot of these songs are songs
that might have gone to the Pluto team. Yeah, we
might have gone, oh that's school, Oh that's rubbish. But
I was like, just put them out, you.

Speaker 3 (27:01):
Know, and we're about huge record.

Speaker 2 (27:04):
So I did it with Joel W. Holland at the Oven,
which is in the Lab Studios under Crystal Palace Theater
in this kind of like amazing sort of underground used
to be a dance hall back in the fifties and sixties.

Speaker 3 (27:15):
Is there still a giant picture of a wolf down
there on a what.

Speaker 1 (27:20):
If there is a wolf?

Speaker 2 (27:21):
Maybe I'm not looking hard enough. I'm usually like totally
in the in the zon of taking a ship with
those guys.

Speaker 3 (27:27):
It's funny because he's just just just yesterday, just yesterday,
I got a message on Instagram from someone that was
recording an album at the lab with Olie and and
he was doing the Sky was doing a solo in
the studio, and he was and he was, he was talking.
He's messaged me because Ollie said, this is where you
recorded a couple of your albums and and I just
the lab. I just took me all the way back

(27:49):
to the lab.

Speaker 1 (27:49):
What a great.

Speaker 2 (27:51):
Spots like you know in Yeah, they've uncovered all these
old photos of all the people that go into dancers
in the sixties, like these young people dressed up so
beautifully and love suits and dresses and you know, going
to the dance to watch live music. And yeah, there's
a kind of there's a history there. It brings out
the best in you because it's a cool vibe. And
Joel's room is so John m'hollum has produced a whole

(28:13):
bunch of stuff. He's really good. Made of mine.

Speaker 1 (28:15):
We had him in here just the other day.

Speaker 2 (28:18):
To talk about those Beatles shows or something or yeah,
those couple of shows.

Speaker 1 (28:23):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (28:24):
He laid down a challenge to me because I lost
this hard drive blah blah blah with a whole bunch
of songs on it, and yeah, sort of heartbreaking moment,
and he was like, oh, nobody was going to hear
those songs anyway, so what are you moaning about? And
I was like sort of screw you, buddy, and yeah,
and then he was he goes, well record them with me,
and I was like, no, faking will do it then.
So it was like a sort of like this kind

(28:46):
of challenging thing. But then when we actually did them,
I was like, ah, I think I probably should put
them out. Yeah, it's pretty satisfying. It's more satisfying than
I thought too. I mean, I didn't even think i'd
come to talk to you guys about putting a record
out right unless it was like a plute song or something.

Speaker 3 (29:00):
Yeah, so cool.

Speaker 1 (29:02):
How long had you been like in terms of the
songs on the album? How what's the what's the oldest
idea for the song that you had on the album?

Speaker 2 (29:12):
Like?

Speaker 1 (29:13):
How long you been thinking about it?

Speaker 2 (29:14):
For I wrote a song back in about twenty fourteen
that's on the record. Because they write songs. Maybe it's
like you met he write songs for fun a little
bit late. Oh sorry, thanks Mash.

Speaker 6 (29:27):
Again for you.

Speaker 2 (29:27):
It's great to see that. When I was working here
a few years aback, that she's still in their intern
zone with those kind of you know what helps the
wage cost of our Yeah, it's.

Speaker 3 (29:36):
Kind of like the friend zone, the intern zone.

Speaker 2 (29:38):
I was about to go into full fast guitars mode
and talk about, you know, the guitarring, but that's cool, No.

Speaker 5 (29:44):
Please do that's actually what I want to hear to
it for you. It feels actually quite strange because when
you first came in here about four years ago, not
when you first came in here, when I first came
in here about four years a.

Speaker 1 (29:51):
Six months ago something, I remember, it's not four years ago.

Speaker 5 (29:56):
So excited I got to record Mike doing the voiceover
when you used to do the voice for a radio
heardeche used to be the corpor voice a radio heard ache.
And I'm eve being very excited. So it's a real
force sycle moment talking to you now. And now we
get to ned out.

Speaker 3 (30:07):
About well, we forgot to applaud you because when never
Mike walks into a room, people applaud and which you
got it.

Speaker 2 (30:13):
Oh that's me here because we're mad, we.

Speaker 3 (30:15):
Were a mad pod and this and so there's just
a little little thing that people do when you walk
into the room people applaud.

Speaker 2 (30:23):
I really loved that about working here, I've got to say,
like it was actually awesome. What happened was it was
about it was Mike Lane's second week here, and I
walked in and I'd had a rough morning at home
with my kids or something. And I walked in and like,
Mike goes, howe, and I'm like, you know, at least
you get a rest when you die or something like that.
I said something like that, sort of dad kind of like,

(30:47):
it's a bit fuck this morning. Somebody didn't eat this
kid left with a one shoe or whatever it was,
you know. And then like I came out of the
session I've been in with with Chris, and I came
out and I and they Mike goes, mate, you got
a minute, and I was like yeah, of course, and
he goes everything all right, and I was like, oh,
got on your mate, Yeah, I'm fine. He goes, oh,

(31:09):
I just you know what you said, and I'm like, oh, look,
I'm not gonna I'm not going to go and kill myself.
I so appreciate your concern. Anyway, he goes, great, so
we'll see you next week. And I was like, yeah, yeah,
you'll see me next week. So I went away and
then I came back Wednesday eleven o'clock every single week
and I walk in the door and Mike Lane goes
lady ins in gentlemen like all and the entire officer

(31:32):
up there, including people from Flavor. How we're going? What
the fuck am I? Who was this regular looking geezer?

Speaker 1 (31:43):
You know, it's such a good tradition to have just
started like that.

Speaker 2 (31:46):
It happened every single time for five and a half
years where I walk in the door, maybe six years.
I got applauded every single time I came to voice.

Speaker 7 (31:55):
Oh.

Speaker 2 (31:58):
I looked forward to it, like, don't worry Wednesdays around
the corner.

Speaker 3 (32:03):
And that's that's not something that's ever happened for anyone
else that.

Speaker 1 (32:06):
No, it's only you. You get booed.

Speaker 5 (32:11):
Are you noting the corporate voice over the hits? Mike?

Speaker 1 (32:13):
Is that right? Do you get?

Speaker 5 (32:14):
Do you get a clap over the heads? Are you
doing there's no clap, there's no clap of the hurts,
no clap remote.

Speaker 1 (32:22):
It's so classic of John and Ben.

Speaker 7 (32:24):
Ye.

Speaker 1 (32:24):
Yeah, it's always a prank.

Speaker 3 (32:27):
You know, they know that you expect the clap, So
the whole thing is a prank, but they're not clap back.

Speaker 2 (32:30):
I have actually noticed them when I go up, They're like,
I'm just waiting with their hands. I'm like, no, no,
there's nothing. It's remote.

Speaker 1 (32:36):
Oh that's just that's strike two for those guys. They're
on strike two. Well, it's the other striking your music.

Speaker 3 (32:43):
John, you threw a few strays a Johnno for no
reason when I know you love them.

Speaker 1 (32:47):
Strike there's strike one. There's a strike two for me.

Speaker 5 (32:50):
Hey, Michael, before you go were you did you run
vocals on the glass Barbie tune?

Speaker 1 (32:56):
Was that you?

Speaker 2 (32:58):
I'm trying to remember because they were Is this I
want to cring this up?

Speaker 5 (33:02):
That's not don't think so. Can we have a listen
to you or not? Because I found that Devin.

Speaker 1 (33:10):
Who is there?

Speaker 7 (33:11):
No?

Speaker 1 (33:12):
I know who that is?

Speaker 5 (33:12):
That Tom Harper.

Speaker 1 (33:13):
That's that's Tom Harper's mate from christ Church.

Speaker 5 (33:17):
Yes, there's that song from before that I had.

Speaker 3 (33:22):
There was just none of those None of those songs
are on your album.

Speaker 5 (33:29):
With a cover of glass.

Speaker 2 (33:33):
When are you guys putting that on vinyl? I mean
that's the responsibility of Mike Lane, isn't it.

Speaker 1 (33:37):
Yeah, that's exactly the type of thing that that's exactly
the type of thing that Mike Lane will waste his
time on. It's been six months on that, yeah, Oky.

Speaker 3 (33:46):
So how can people get your album? And and and
gives the dats?

Speaker 2 (33:51):
It's on all the streaming places and I've.

Speaker 1 (33:54):
Got a physical copy of it.

Speaker 2 (33:56):
Yeah, I've got vinyl and band camp. Just check check
out Mike Hall like I'm and there's heaps of us.
There's a slightly overweight trombone player from America with a
pretty decent go toy.

Speaker 1 (34:04):
He's not me and Daryl Hall. Of course that's that.
He's not you either.

Speaker 2 (34:08):
No, that my well, No, I wish it was my dad,
but my dad's Derek.

Speaker 6 (34:13):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (34:14):
Close.

Speaker 3 (34:14):
Though I always assumed that you were related to Daryl Hall.
I knew you had nothing to do with it. I
knew you had nothing to do without cree Boats. I
knew you wouldn't go down to god Oats, but I
always thought there was a bit of Daryl Hall in you.

Speaker 2 (34:27):
Thanks.

Speaker 3 (34:29):
So what's the copyright situation? Could we could we in
the pod just by playing dragging around song?

Speaker 4 (34:35):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (34:35):
I mean that's fine with me. I don't know what
your license with the performing rights organizations are.

Speaker 3 (34:40):
Now I'm sure you'll get paid sid me the AP check.

Speaker 2 (34:44):
Here you go, Michael, Mike, thanks for coming to Mike,
Thanks for the chets.

Speaker 1 (34:48):
There's a lot on in the padic.

Speaker 7 (34:55):
Damn and show.

Speaker 2 (34:56):
The house is breaking heart.

Speaker 7 (35:01):
From the Manson.

Speaker 8 (35:04):
We continuee froding with the wind madhoe fiatress.

Speaker 2 (35:16):
And the precious.

Speaker 1 (35:19):
Their labe was the hard to feel food gold.

Speaker 7 (35:25):
And screaming.

Speaker 6 (35:28):
Down the high from food.

Speaker 1 (35:33):
The copy from a dune.

Speaker 6 (35:39):
Stop dragging meraund Stop dragging me around, Stop dragging Merau.

Speaker 7 (35:57):
That's a sun which wins up wish wist, wish to stall,

(36:18):
understand and still.

Speaker 8 (36:21):
Not just sworn to know I had dream, just still cap.

Speaker 2 (36:30):
And Scoff.

Speaker 8 (36:34):
Has back through those streets of stop dragging me, Rau,
stop dragging.

Speaker 6 (36:48):
Me round, Stop dragging me.

Speaker 2 (36:55):
Ra.

Speaker 7 (36:58):
Says the sun Wood swezer Woods Swister, So I'm dragging Mira.

Speaker 6 (37:10):
Stop dragging Mera.

Speaker 7 (37:15):
Next, that's the sun Wood Schweazer Woods Swister.

Speaker 6 (37:47):
Star dragging, Stop dragging so schock stochag schargy
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