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October 9, 2024 21 mins

Today on the podcast, Jerry, Mashie, and Manaia share stories about their first cars and explore the intriguing question: does the interior of a person's car reflect the state of their mind?

 

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Speaker 1 (00:09):
Welcome along to the Hidocky Breakfast podcast, Thursday, the tenth
of October twenty twenty four. Today's guest former South Island
meat worker and nice Stuart.

Speaker 2 (00:19):
Well and gentlemen, I love that when this was first announced,
you know, hates leaving and now it's going to be
Jerry and friends going forward and in the first week
it's just the two dudes that work down in the hallway.

Speaker 1 (00:29):
Yeah, that's right. Well, we've you know, we've asked a
few people obviously, y know, you and g Lame are
the first person that we asked yes, and it's it's
full credit to you saying yes, you know, I'll come along.
I'm happy to come along. I'm happy to wake up
in the morning and keep your company for a week while.
Thank you. I appreciate that.

Speaker 2 (00:47):
Well, it's a seat of I'm quite familiar with. It's
bringing back a lot of memories sitting over here, been
back in the Hodaker studio as well. And then also
I know what it's like to spend three days with
Julane and so I knew that you guys needed a
bit of cleansing this morning. Yeah. I listened to a
few parts random samples across the three days, and yeah,

(01:08):
just a little three card trick, isn't it. It's very
lot a wank chat yesterday.

Speaker 1 (01:13):
No, that's right. You go pose, you go wheeze, and
then you come in with the semen. That's the three
card trek for g Lane, always the same. I spent
quite a bit of time rooming with g Lane because
we recently traveled across to the Bfest and Mute also
went to Amsterdam, and I got to say, he's a
great sleeping companion, and you and Joe Jury immediately gravitated
towards each other, both of you being snorers.

Speaker 2 (01:35):
Yeah, well it's the same actually, and when I roomed
with Heath and Paris last year as well, same thing.
We're both snorers. So it's basically you come to a
gentleman's agreement whereby we're both going to go to bed
at the same time. We're going to try and go
to sleep at the same time, and it's a race
to get to sleep because the other guy is going
to be soaring logs. Joe Jury will snore himself awake.

(01:57):
He snores until he suffocates himself and then wakes up.
It's actually quite scary.

Speaker 1 (02:02):
Wow, yeah, that's going to be I'd find that super hard.
I can't sleep with the snorer. I'm not used to it.
Tossy doesn't snore. My partnersn't. Well, I don't snore. She
you a snorer on the purse.

Speaker 3 (02:12):
Yeah, that's about it, i'd say.

Speaker 2 (02:14):
We Yeah, I am as well. And when so if
I'm on my back, particularly, that's for I snaw. And
my missus one time, she she knows that if she
tries to slip a finger in the back door there,
that's gonna jump me awake. You know, she knows, she
knows she'll get a rise out of me when she
does that. And she couldn't wake me up. She's shaking
me trying to get me awake. One day, one night,

(02:34):
I'd been on the wheez and then she she tried
the old you know, I know where to get a
rise out of him. All it did was I ended
up rolling over onto her hand and staying dear to sleep.

Speaker 1 (02:44):
So now she s backing yourself up and down very
very slowly.

Speaker 2 (02:48):
So now she's stuck with her hand underneath me, and
I'm still snoring. And if our relationship can survive that,
you know.

Speaker 1 (02:55):
Yeah, no, that's impressive. So TOLSI doesn't snore? No, right, No,
I've never snored recently. She No, seriously, I'm not a snorer.
You've never stored because I don't sleep on my back.
I think just snore properly. You've got to be on
your back when I'm a side slash stomach sleeper.

Speaker 2 (03:13):
I'm a stomach sleeper as well, stomach.

Speaker 3 (03:15):
Sleeper with one knee kind of up. Yeah, the breast.

Speaker 2 (03:18):
I'm in the skydiving position. Yeap of both hands up
like I've been dropped from thirty thousand feet.

Speaker 3 (03:23):
You need a big bid for that.

Speaker 2 (03:25):
No, I think you'd be surprised.

Speaker 3 (03:27):
Yeah, you're just running a queen or.

Speaker 2 (03:28):
Yeah, we just run the queen.

Speaker 1 (03:29):
You're running a queen and I big you know. Yeah,
you can't run a queen.

Speaker 3 (03:34):
Not everyone can afford it.

Speaker 2 (03:35):
California, that's not excuse me, preference.

Speaker 1 (03:39):
You know you don't need a California king afford it,
not even a king.

Speaker 2 (03:44):
I mean, i'd go a king like you said, I
can afford it. We've just brought a mattress off one
of my miss's work mates because our mattress at the
moment's so bloody shoddy. Had it for about a decade.

Speaker 3 (03:55):
Scon hair mattresses a dangerous it's a dangerous market a
sick hair mattress, as you're brave.

Speaker 2 (04:01):
Any stains, not that I've seen what we're going to go.
The topper on top of it put a bit of
a layer between us and whatever had been going on there.

Speaker 1 (04:10):
Maybe there's something wrong with me because our mattress for
our beard, which is now seven years old, has got
horrific brown stains like all over it, and we use
a mattress protector. Yeah, but it's still got horrific brown stains.
Like I don't know where the brown stains come from.

Speaker 2 (04:28):
Where, well, whereabouts on the mattress are all.

Speaker 1 (04:31):
Over it, Like all there's just a giant brown stain.

Speaker 3 (04:37):
No, I don't like to jump to conclusions. There's only
probably a couple of options that could be. Do you
fake tanger.

Speaker 1 (04:43):
No fake tan? No, no, neither of fake. They're kind
of is going to you need to fake tan.

Speaker 3 (04:49):
Okay, there's only about one other thing that kind of
comes out the color brown.

Speaker 2 (04:53):
Because yeah, although a lot of a lot of fluids
do dry to a brownish color. Yeah, there's good point
that often aren't brown initially.

Speaker 1 (05:00):
It's definitely I know what you're trying to say, MESHI
you're trying to say it's fecal matter. It's definitely not
fecal matter. Nobody has ever shat that beid. I honestly say,
nobody's ever shat that bid.

Speaker 3 (05:10):
Good for you, so it.

Speaker 1 (05:12):
Must be we weit. Oh, nobody's ever passed the bid
either that bid. No fire trucks in that one. Never
a fire truck.

Speaker 2 (05:20):
No, so, not even after a long lunch of progo.
No fire truck.

Speaker 1 (05:23):
Never. Never fire trucked the bed with my partner. I
don't know.

Speaker 3 (05:27):
Okay, we'll hang on. Why did you have to add
the part with your partner in it?

Speaker 2 (05:30):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (05:31):
And before, when I was younger, I'm talking about as
a kid, like little kid.

Speaker 2 (05:37):
I had a situation. The only time I've ever fire
truck was my last day in my flat and tomorrow
and my mum was coming up to collect the bid
that I'd been using in that flat. And so I
wake up. We'd had a big sind off the night before.
I wake up, and I've crowded what I can only
describe as a map of Australia. Oh, on the mattress.
And then I get a text from my mum. She's

(05:58):
just around the corner coming and collick that bid that
you've been using for the last few months.

Speaker 1 (06:02):
No, did you map of Australia have Tasmania?

Speaker 2 (06:05):
He had included Tasmania.

Speaker 3 (06:06):
That's impressive.

Speaker 2 (06:07):
Yeah it was yep, just a little dribble at the end. Yeah,
some of the what are the tories straight islands were
represented in that? Oh wow? Yeah okay and so yeah,
So now I've got like five minutes to come up
with a plan as to how to and so I
ran upstairs to my maid who was living in there.
I was like, Mum's coming down. You've got to come

(06:27):
intercept her and say I need the bid, tell her
you'll pay her. I'll pay you whatever it is, but
you have to come down now and do this good plan. Yeah,
and he did and that's what he did. So yeah, okay,
Pete McConnell, dear, he knows him. Yeah, he came down
and saved my ass.

Speaker 1 (06:42):
So what happened? And then did you give your mum
the bed later on or you just took it out
the bought a new bed?

Speaker 2 (06:49):
Ye, second hand bed, gave that to mum. I think
that's still in an houseome.

Speaker 1 (06:54):
It's a weird mob bids like, you don't buy a
bed every day.

Speaker 2 (06:58):
No, you don't buy a bed every day.

Speaker 1 (07:00):
In fact, I know exactly how many beds I have
had in my life. Yeah, I've had. I had one
as a kid, and I had that bed till I
was about fifteen. I had that bed for a long time.
Then I got a oh.

Speaker 3 (07:13):
Hang on straight straight into a bed from child Well.

Speaker 1 (07:17):
Yeah, I had a childhood bed that I had for
years and years and years and years and years and years.
It was one of those divan ones that you know
that has two layers and the bottom layer can pull
out and you can have like sleepovers and it goes
up on.

Speaker 2 (07:30):
Legs on wheels. I had a single bunk bed as
a kid. I think mum got a good deal on.

Speaker 1 (07:37):
I had no top to it.

Speaker 2 (07:38):
I think I think she might have gone to a
garage sound So can I just have the bottom?

Speaker 1 (07:44):
Yeah, I can imagine that. And then also I had
the one with the divan. Then I got a double
bed that had the wooden things. I was a fancy
bed that one. And then I took that one with
me flatting. And then finally a friend of mine Boris
Big Bears Moss suplexed another friend of mine, Desrusk, onto

(08:05):
the bed and it went conk in the middle of
it and the wood but slats. Yeah, the wood just
went conk and broke in the middle. So I kept
that before a long time I had. I had a
brack underneath it, which kept up the middle part, but
it did sag through the center.

Speaker 3 (08:17):
It's big bory've given you a suplex or anything like that,
because he's a unit. He carries some force.

Speaker 1 (08:22):
He'll pick up anybody. He could have picked up Andre
the Giant and his time and body slammed him.

Speaker 2 (08:28):
Hadn't done so.

Speaker 1 (08:32):
And then I had a I had one other bed
and then I've got the bid that I've got now.
So that's what was that? Five four five five beds
in my life? Five bids?

Speaker 2 (08:42):
Mask you top that? I reckon.

Speaker 1 (08:43):
I've had more beds. I've had the same amount of
beds as I've had cars. Four cars, five cars, five cars?

Speaker 3 (08:51):
How many cars have you had?

Speaker 1 (08:52):
Five?

Speaker 3 (08:53):
Well? What one? Sorry?

Speaker 1 (08:55):
Started with a Subaru legacy legacy.

Speaker 2 (09:00):
Oh yeah, yep, I had one of those twin Turbo.
I sold it to a mate for just however much
cash he had at the time. I was gone so much.
It was about it was like thirteen hundred and eighty something.

Speaker 3 (09:14):
Dollars win for everyone.

Speaker 2 (09:16):
Yeah, I wanted about two grand, but he was like, look,
he sent me a screenshot of his bank account. He's like,
this is honestly everything I've got. I was like, I'll
take it all to give it in him.

Speaker 1 (09:25):
Dry.

Speaker 2 (09:26):
I bleed him dry. He's still got it. He replaced
the engine in it. He's a mechanic. So it was
a four wheel drive, twin turbo sucker.

Speaker 1 (09:34):
Was it like a ninety one ninety two?

Speaker 2 (09:36):
Yeah, I think it was around there. Green.

Speaker 1 (09:38):
It had mime was green.

Speaker 2 (09:39):
It had a label along the side of it that
I think was translated from Japanese because it said run fast,
Run beautiful, oh along the side of it. Yeah, And
I've lived in fear of waking up with a tattoo
that said that.

Speaker 1 (09:51):
On the after a night out. They're a good car.

Speaker 2 (09:54):
Oh my god.

Speaker 1 (09:54):
That was one of my favorite cars. Actually, good one.

Speaker 3 (09:57):
Because there's a while with Alum large over the New
Zealand society. Yeah, I think boy racers were targeting them.
People wanted to steal them. I mean sbar legacies. You
could see them if everyone wanted to lower them.

Speaker 2 (10:06):
That's cheap, powerful for.

Speaker 1 (10:09):
Drive, pretty reliable up into about two hundred thousand k's
and the turbos wind.

Speaker 2 (10:14):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (10:14):
Oh it was stuff and it was a money pat Yeah, yep. Yeah,
there's a bloody good vehicle.

Speaker 3 (10:20):
I reckon.

Speaker 1 (10:20):
There's a lot of people out there who will be
going years. I actually had one too.

Speaker 2 (10:24):
I had had one.

Speaker 1 (10:25):
Three sbar legacies.

Speaker 3 (10:27):
What one of them?

Speaker 2 (10:27):
Three?

Speaker 1 (10:28):
Yeah, in my life, I've had three sar legacies.

Speaker 3 (10:30):
Was one of those. One was one of the saber legacies.
Your vehicle that had a bit of a leak in
it and it smelled like bong water. No, that was
a I moved away from it at one stage. I
got a Camri. That was the camera that smelled like
bond water.

Speaker 1 (10:41):
That was a camera A two thousand and five to
had a Camri that, yeah, had a leak in it, unfortunately,
and the carpet started rotting. Oh yeah, sure, it smelled
like an old sock. Yeah, that was a that was
a rubbish carry. I mean it didn't cost me anything
to repair ever, No, but there was a I bought
it purposely because I thought, get a car that's just

(11:01):
the worst car you could ever get that you can
just drive around in forever.

Speaker 2 (11:05):
I've got that right now, I've got a Suzuki Swift.

Speaker 1 (11:08):
You've got a Swift.

Speaker 3 (11:09):
Oh yeah.

Speaker 2 (11:09):
And I couldn't give a shit. I could not hear
less about the Szuki Swift. A couple of years ago, man,
my missus decided we needed another car, and so, you know,
I've always wanted to hold in Kingswood, and so we
had long discussions and then in the end got the
Suzuki Swift. It that was a sensible choice after the discussions.
And it's so freeing because I couldn't give it. I've
never parked it in a garage. It's just out on
the street. It's ensured for more than it's worth. So

(11:31):
I pray someone steals it. Although now that this is
on wax, there's probably some frawd isshes, possibly, but there's
something freeing about not giving a shit about your car.

Speaker 3 (11:40):
I feel the same way about my vehicle. My two
thousand and two foot focus on the right hand side
when we're was hanging on by some duct tape. I
mean stink, so I haven't even I mean, it's just
full of rubbish, But there is something shameless about driving
around in the vehicle you don't care about yourself.

Speaker 2 (11:52):
And we all had them when we were grown up too,
Like your first car. It was like I had a
mate whose car we got stuck in the floods and
OMU we had to drive back to worm at it
and his windscreen wipers only worked basically manually. You had
to pull the thing. For every one wipe, you had
to pull the thing. Again.

Speaker 1 (12:10):
I love it.

Speaker 2 (12:11):
And so we're driving back through these floods and the
water's coming through the fan intake, so we needed the
fan to miss the windscreen, but when the water came
up over the tires, it would start spinning water at us.
So he's driving the car, I'm operating the fan off
and on so we don't get water spared at us,
and I'm manually cranking the I love that. It's like

(12:33):
the steampunk contraption. I love that.

Speaker 1 (12:35):
But you make do. I'm proud of you guys for
driving a Suzuki Swift and afford focus respectively. To me,
I just something that's not I try not to judge
people like I try my hardest not to judge people
don't want to be one of those judgement to pricks.
But I judge people quite hard who are young who
drive fancy cars. I can't help myself. I've got to

(12:56):
stop doing it. But I think, what are you doing?
You're spending money on a bloody vehicle, trying to trump
yourself up a little bit. You shall be spending it
on drugs and alcohol like any sensible twenty mid twenties
person or in your situation early thirties mini spending it
on a car or even worse, people that hp a
fancy car.

Speaker 2 (13:16):
You're it's it's a depreciating asset.

Speaker 1 (13:19):
It's a fool's what's it called a fools?

Speaker 2 (13:22):
Errand? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (13:23):
No, have you told Jerry about your car interior theory?

Speaker 2 (13:27):
My car interior theory the idea? Oh yes, and you.

Speaker 3 (13:31):
Know I told me about this theory, Jerry, that this
might be something you're interested in.

Speaker 1 (13:34):
Okay, so my theory take a break and come back
with your car interior theory. Let's take let's take a break. Yeah,
and we'll come back, and we're back with Mania's car
interior theory.

Speaker 2 (13:45):
I'm glad you leant at the gravitas that deserves. My
theory is that the inside of someone's car is what
the inside of their brain looks like. So if it's
a pig sty and it's messy and this's shit everywhere,
that's how their brain operates. If it's clean, tidy, that's
also how their brain operates. You know, they are a

(14:05):
certain type of operator.

Speaker 3 (14:06):
I think that chicks out there theory. I mean mine
is dangerously missy. So yeah, mine is missing.

Speaker 1 (14:11):
Interesting, Yes, I reckon you can extend that into people's houses.

Speaker 2 (14:15):
Yeah, their bedrooms for sure.

Speaker 1 (14:16):
True, definitely, what is yours?

Speaker 2 (14:19):
A clean card? Here? Very clean clean.

Speaker 3 (14:21):
I like to keep it clean clean.

Speaker 1 (14:23):
But is it a counter is it a CounterPunch to
the fact that you've got such that you're trying to
control what's going on side of your brain that it's
quite chaotic, and so if you control the xterior. This
is how I've always viewed my mildly obsessive tidiness, Like
I would say mildly because I have friends who are
far more obsessive in their tidiness. Mine doesn't extend to

(14:45):
worrying about what's inside of cupboards. Like to me, if
I can't see what, I don't care what's inside about
the cupboard. If I can shoy it. It doesn't it
doesn't exist.

Speaker 3 (14:52):
It's a good place to be. I think mine's atting
surface surface cleaning.

Speaker 2 (14:55):
So your thing is a facade, I totally you know
that looks well presented on the outside. You open that cabin,
absolutely top of week comes tumbling out.

Speaker 1 (15:06):
Oh my god, I'm thinking about my top of wek cub.
It's just a mess. So I think that you try
and make the xterior or whatever is your environment reasonably
controlled and reasonably tidy, because you're battling to control the
tidiness of what's and I think eventually it does make
things tidy inside of your head.

Speaker 2 (15:25):
So you so you're as your glove box and your
cinder console. Are they a bit of a mess?

Speaker 1 (15:30):
I wouldn't say a miss, but they've got some crap
in them. I haven't looked inside them for some time.

Speaker 3 (15:35):
I feel like I'm always looking Whenever I had to
go for a rotten Jeri's car, and I'm always having
a look around and sit. There's anything I cannet, but
anything interesting that nothing like a cigarette lighters. I don't
even I've got a couple of them for some reason.
You don't know where they came from.

Speaker 1 (15:47):
I've got no idea why they're there. I actually don't,
but they just stay there.

Speaker 2 (15:50):
Yeah, yeah, really I don't smoke.

Speaker 3 (15:53):
Yeah, well what are they doing there?

Speaker 1 (15:55):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (15:55):
Yeah, I mean, no one else goes in your card.
You how they show up?

Speaker 2 (15:59):
That's weird.

Speaker 1 (16:00):
They were just in there from the start.

Speaker 3 (16:01):
YEP.

Speaker 2 (16:03):
I tried to test this theory out on a girl
that works for this building today, which last week I
think you might have been with me, and we were
walking out the front door. She just pulled up in
front of us, and I was like, here's a chance
to test my theory. So do every you know inside
of someone's cars, what the inside of their brain looks like.
So I put my face up to the back seat.
Her brain andies are on the back seat. I put

(16:25):
my face. I was like, oh God, oh Jesus. And
she didn't really know what I was doing. So I
shuddered to think what that experience was in her recollection.

Speaker 1 (16:36):
I feel like, if you're a female and you got
your bra andies in the back seat, it says a
lot about you. Oh definitely, she's a huge amount about you.

Speaker 3 (16:44):
What does that say? So?

Speaker 1 (16:46):
Is it you're transient, You're staying around the plate. You're
you're bluting in different places. That's what it says, don't
you think?

Speaker 3 (16:56):
Yeah, I suppose it does. Do you guys have just
the ba.

Speaker 1 (17:00):
There's also a thing about it which says, good on you,
you don't care, which I like.

Speaker 2 (17:05):
Well, you know, yeah, I hope she doesn't care, because otherwise,
what does it say about me that I pressed my
face against her window? Did she You're.

Speaker 1 (17:13):
Allowed to look in someone's car. There's nothing illegal about
about pressing your face against the window of someone's car.
That's totally you can't It might look slightly dodgy.

Speaker 2 (17:22):
Well, does she think that I knew because she knew
that was in the back of her car? Is it
in her mind that I might have known that that
was in the back of her car and that's why
I pressed my face against the wind because it wasn't.

Speaker 3 (17:34):
Oh so is she thinking maybe that you might have
been walking past the car, mining your own business, and
then at the corner of your own you prephers you've
caught some of La Cherie in the back seat, and
then you've gone actually only to have a look at this.

Speaker 2 (17:44):
That's what keeps me up at night. Yeah, I would
be worried about that. She has not talked to me
since then, and now that I think about it, she
has not looked me in the eye. Ah since then.

Speaker 3 (17:58):
The first woman won't.

Speaker 2 (18:00):
So but I might need to a should an apology to her.

Speaker 1 (18:03):
So apart from the bar and knacks, is there any
other crap in the car?

Speaker 2 (18:05):
Or yeah? There was? There was like McDonald's and there
was a coffee cup in the back passenger thing of
a two door car. Mind you, So someone's gotten into
the back. Yeah, I reckon, that's a hungover purchase. You know,
you're driving your mates around the next morning, you get
a coffee.

Speaker 1 (18:19):
At what point don't you go, Okay, I've got this
old bag of macas in the back and now it's
time to I mean, if you're pulling, you know, ifever
you pull into a service station or something, there's a
bin right there, So a greod opportunity to get rid
of some of the crap out of your car. So
you do have to make a date for it.

Speaker 3 (18:35):
An age old story of that person that put a
cheeseberery on the top of their fridge between five years
and came back and it had no mold on it.
I think that people don't really you know, once it's
in the back with McDonald's, it doesn't matter if you
put some fresh for fruit, like fruit.

Speaker 2 (18:46):
Oh, that's a good point.

Speaker 3 (18:46):
You've got to get the fruit out. Okay, I'd focus
on your fruit. Do worry about the McDonald's not really
just for the overall vibe that someone might sort of
hop into your car and they might go, you're disgusting.

Speaker 1 (18:55):
You know.

Speaker 3 (18:56):
I'm worried about that. Yeah, But in terms of like
just worrying about it rotting, I'm not too anything.

Speaker 2 (19:00):
Do you ever consider that a half hour sports commentator
slash podcast the Mike Press's face against the back window
of your car and see what you've got just been a.

Speaker 3 (19:08):
Little time worrying about that. I'm not too phazed without that.
You're welcome to do that. My car's got some shit
in it right out. What do you care? In your boot?
Do you have like an essential kind of knowing how
organized you are? Do you have like a picnic rug
in the back? There, a couple of cushions. I don't know,
you know, anything like that that's always ready to go. No,
I've got to sit of golf clubs and they stay
in the car.

Speaker 2 (19:27):
Yep.

Speaker 1 (19:28):
Yeah, my golf clubs stay in the car. Is it
your car, my car, Yeah, it's my car. It's a
it's a it's got a station wagon. Yeah, so it's
it's capable of carrying around golf clubs. And I could
put other things in there if I want. The reason
that I've got the golf clubs just in case I
feel like going to the driving range at any given time, you.

Speaker 2 (19:46):
Can just pull over.

Speaker 1 (19:47):
Yeah, I can just go to the driving range whenever
I want, don't have to go home. And so I
can't remember the last time I did that, But that's
that's you reserve the right absolutely go to the driving
range at any given time of the day.

Speaker 3 (19:58):
It's nice to do that.

Speaker 2 (20:00):
I've always shied away from keeping my golf clubs in
the back of my car in case it incentivises someone
to smash into the back of it. But now I've
just thought, I want someone to smash into the backage,
I should probably leave my golf clubs in there.

Speaker 1 (20:10):
You should never sign saying smash into the back of me? Yeah, Like,
is that is that illegal? Well, I think you'd probably
write this thing off please.

Speaker 3 (20:20):
It kind of sounds a little bit euphimistic, though, doesn't
it if you know I'm smash into the back of me?
Or right, it's a little bit sixy.

Speaker 2 (20:28):
I've never heard anyone say it outright, but there's certainly
been hints.

Speaker 1 (20:31):
Would you mind smashing into the back of me? I've
never heard anyone say that sexually. Either, people should say
wouldn't mind him smashing into the bec of me? Good
sideswipe you front on, Okay, I think it's a good
place to leave it. It's gone discussing, it's gone dirty.
I've lowered the tone minight.

Speaker 2 (20:48):
Apologies. My intention was to come in here and cleanse it.
I know I've just fallen straight back into the same track,
which actually makes me think it's you guys.

Speaker 1 (20:54):
Maybe it's a good point.
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