June 16, 2024 • 28 mins
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Speaker 3 (01:20):
It's the seventeenth of June twenty twenty four. Welcome all
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to our podcast with the the voices of Reck and Morning,
and I'm saying, it's a great technique before someone comes
in to talk about what you're going to say, and
then do the interview and then rate them afterwards.
Speaker 4 (01:43):
Ye.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
It's a little worried when I was listening to it
that maybe though that those people that came in to
talk to it listened to it. But I mean we
were nothing but nice. But you know, like we were
discussing whether we were going to raise the question of
whether Spencer Elsey Grammar's daughter, and we didn't. We didn't
raise it in the podcast, but we were. We mentioned
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at the start and at the end we talked about
how hot she was. That was. That was a good
wave because a lot of people people don't see what
goes in, do they They don't see they ain't see
the preparation and the aftermath of what we do.
Speaker 5 (02:18):
There was deep prep going into that on the Daily.
It was deep prep.
Speaker 6 (02:21):
It was an interesting circumstance, that wasn't it. And also
they were lovely and they parted the episode out on
their socials as well. And I couldn't help but think
if you listened to this episode, because there is five
minutes at the end after the air break that I
put in there just to kind of hide it away
from as much as any kind of possibility of being
heard by them, the idea that maybe the offans of
tuned in to just hear a couple of dudes talking
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about how hot or.
Speaker 5 (02:45):
They were busy. They were busy at Armageddno the weekend
with they yeah, yeah, yeah tell.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
It was a massive change in Armageddon over the years.
Like when my kids first started going to Armageddon was
all Star Wars, Yes, Marvel, Doctor Who, and none of
that exists there anymore.
Speaker 5 (03:02):
Oh what is it now?
Speaker 3 (03:03):
It's all anime. It's all anime. It's all weird animes.
Like there's a million animes and that's what people give
a shit about now. So all the costumes, you wouldn't
recognize them. You'd be hard pressed to see a Darlk anywhere.
No one gives a shit about a storm trooper, right,
you know, It's it's interesting how much things have changed.
I'm not surprised. Actually, I watched the Acolyte that New
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Star Wars series, and it cost one hundred and eighty
million dollars to make. It might be the worst thing
I've ever seen.
Speaker 5 (03:31):
Right, what's the plot.
Speaker 3 (03:32):
It's kind of the stupid plot that makes no sense
about twin sisters. One of them's good, one of them
is bad. And as soon as there's as soon as
there's identical twin sisters in a murder mystery, you know,
that's considered the one of the rules of writing a
murder mystery that you can't go for the identical twin thing.
Not that they use this very well, but in the
third episode it's very controversial because it's so shit. People
(03:55):
are saying people don't like it because it's for the
cultural war reasons. I don't give a about the culture wars.
But in the third episodes there's this lesbian space witches
that create a pair of identical twins using the Force
so they don't have any men on their in their
little cult, and they're saying, we nearly go and extinct.
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And then they use the Force, which they've changed the
name of it to the Thread, and they create these babies.
Speaker 5 (04:23):
Do they have sperm? Does the Force? Can the Force
create sperm?
Speaker 3 (04:26):
Well, the Force created Anakin, but that took a lot.
And anyway, it's very controversial because it misses with the
law of Star Wars. But also it's just so bad.
It's like, there's got this like sort of pantomime sets
that look like this from like that bad sci fi
that used to watch, well, like really cheap sci fi,
where everything looks like it's on a set in these
terrible costumes, and then like this this coven singing the
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song that goes the power of one, the power of two,
the power of men. I've got a question, and I
was thinking, just to finish my point, it might be
that Star Wars has just got so bad that's why
the kids aren't into it anymore. Not the anime has
taken over, if you know what I mean.
Speaker 5 (05:06):
Like my question relates to that. So you've watched every
Star Wars. You're a huge fan of Star Wars, the
original Star Wars films and that sort of stuff you love.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
I think I've watched everything.
Speaker 5 (05:15):
Yet you watched everything. You watched The Mandalorian, you watch
anything that comes out that has anything to Star Wars.
Will you continue to watch everything that comes out? I
think that's the last of it, right, Okay, you enough.
Speaker 3 (05:26):
I think it's absolutely I think that's third episode of
the Acolyte's killed.
Speaker 5 (05:31):
It for you.
Speaker 3 (05:31):
It's just so bad. And have you seen the movie
Godzilla minus one? No fantastic movie. Each episode of this
costs more. The Achote costs more than the entire movie
Godzilla minus one. There's been one hundred and eighty million
dollars on this series and it looks so budget. I
think it's the City Rail Network of televisions. It ever
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since Disney took over, Yeah, ever since Disney took over,
they've completely lost the plot. I think it's because they
have to make a lot of content. And like I
was saying to my kids, when I was growing up,
we saw the original Star Wars movies and we love them,
and then it was fricking ages before there was anything else,
and so we were just feverish for it. And it's
quite different when they just brand any load of shit
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about a lesbian space which cult as Star Wars, when
it's got absolutely nothing to do with Star Wars. The
Gedo's are there, but they're kind of really uncool Judis.
There's also a bumble Atti Jedi, which is pretty funny.
Speaker 5 (06:28):
Is it a little bit like the way that I
kind of feel about rugby sometimes, where there's been so
much about Yeah, there's just so much of it and
you actually know you've got to want it.
Speaker 3 (06:38):
You've got to want it. So it was definitely bad
Star Wars, you know, let the Star Wars Christmas Special
was not good and that came out all those years ago.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
I mean.
Speaker 5 (06:45):
The idea of demand and supply is really interesting one
when it comes to entertainment because if you do, if
you do basically choke the supply, then you will increase demand.
It works.
Speaker 3 (06:55):
This happens with tournaments all the time. They think, oh,
this is going really well, Let's put more and more
games in there and extend it out so it goes
for longer, and it never works. That's always Six Nations
are such a successful tournament in rugby. It's very simple.
Six nations, they all play each other once.
Speaker 7 (07:10):
How do you reckon it would go? Like obviously, back
in the eighties they had the movie Return of the Jedi,
which was huge. How do you reckon it would go?
If they had a movie called Return of the Bombalaty Jedi.
Speaker 3 (07:20):
I don't know, I don't know how well it will
have gone.
Speaker 5 (07:22):
How is this Jedi.
Speaker 3 (07:24):
Pretty large upiring the other day or four people being
whatever weight they want to be and blessed you know everyone?
You do you? But I mean, you know, we've been
showing that Jedis have to go through a really really
rigorous training. I mean that was the whole point of
Empire Strikes Back. It's already pretty fit. Guy wasn't fit
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enough to be a Jedi, so he had to go
and train, running through the woods of Dagabar with a
muppet on his back telling him how to that he
wasn't trying out that you know that he wasn't doing
well enough.
Speaker 5 (07:57):
So on the top pettick, since there's Jedi training or why,
I mean why how did he become He's.
Speaker 3 (08:03):
Very young, young Jedi. This guy, he's not a big
part of it. But I don't know. And it just
made me a bit sad because I was like, yeah,
I think it's right. Yet if they've done no more
Star Wars, I mean the last Disney all the Disney
Star Wars have been terrible. Apart from Rogue one, which
was quite good, I think it was okay. Yeah, and
(08:24):
also and Or was really good. I thought and Or
was bloody good.
Speaker 5 (08:27):
Didn't you like The Mandalorian?
Speaker 3 (08:29):
Like the first series of The Mandalorian, But then it
went massively off off.
Speaker 5 (08:33):
It just got so stupid. It was like.
Speaker 3 (08:37):
These TV shows they become like video games where you're
constantly doing side missions. So you go to a planet
and then you meet someone and they say, oh, you've
got to go and get this from this and then
bring it back, and then the plot will continue, and
you just get sick of that. Really, go yeah, it
doesn't doesn't. It doesn't give you the emotional buzz that
you want.
Speaker 5 (08:53):
Yeah, right, Sometimes you just got to straighten the attack.
But it's just going across, across, across, across, phase after
phase after phase, going across the field.
Speaker 3 (09:01):
I mean, I've got to go forward. I wonder if
this show The Acolytes money laundering or something.
Speaker 5 (09:07):
Like.
Speaker 3 (09:08):
It just doesn't look like that amount of money. It
does not look like one hundred and eighty million dollars.
Have you read anything about it before you watched it?
Speaker 8 (09:14):
No?
Speaker 3 (09:15):
Okay no, But I was confused because there's been and
Or a Shoker and then Acolytes. So there was these
three in rapid success, and there was these three Star
Wars shows beginning with a But when I was watching that,
I felt quite depressed because it's been a whole lifetime
of mine loving Star Wars, and then you get to
this one show and these people who have taken it
over have no interest in the topic at all. They
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kind of just want to destroy it. I think that's
part of it, this kind of this postmodern thing where
to move forward you have to destroy what was before,
which you know, obviously that happens in art quite a lot,
and it's a legitimate approach to things. But as a
long term fan, I guess that just means it's not
for me anymore. Maybe it's fine.
Speaker 5 (09:54):
Run out of there's just you get to a certain
point and then that universe just runs out of gas. Maybe, yeah,
I mean that's what happens in the universe, isn't it. Yeah,
things just run out of gas eventually. Yeah, maybe that's it,
and maybe things just can't go forever. But my son,
who he just said, why are we watching this? And
I said, you know, and that's a really good point,
and he said, why. This is clearly terrible.
Speaker 3 (10:16):
They clearly have put no effort in, you know, it's
clearly just been a money grab for the people that
are making it. So while we're watching it, and I said,
I guess because I like Star Wars, and he goes, well,
you did like Star Wars, Dad. It's terrible in your
fourteen year olds telling all these things. And it goes
just because this is rubbish. Now, it doesn't mean the
stuff that you liked has changed. It doesn't actually affect
the stuff that you like. Just watch the stuff you
like and then move on. It's not it doesn't matter.
(10:38):
It's just a big corporate product that's been thrown out there.
You don't have to consume their content just because they
produce it.
Speaker 5 (10:44):
No, you know, no, geez your footing, you're not smart.
Speaker 3 (10:46):
Yes, I mean this burger's being produced every day that
I don't et yep, because I think they're not good
for me.
Speaker 5 (10:51):
Yeah. I used to love burgers.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 7 (10:54):
To prove your point a little bit, Google users rate
the show twenty two percent like it im dB I
think it's three point six out of ten, but strangely
Rodden Tomatoes think it's eighty four percent.
Speaker 3 (11:06):
Well, go to rodin Tomatoes, but go to the audience score.
Can you flick that over to the audience score and
Rod and tomatoes. Oh okay, okay, because because there's a
lot of people that fifteen percent per so.
Speaker 5 (11:18):
Just wait for six So so okay, so you've got
this thing right, Disney pay one hundred and eighty million, yeah,
yeah to make this thing and then people clearly don't
really like it. Yeah, people mustn't be down like, people
mustn't be viewing it in the right amount. You know,
it's not going to take off. Yeah, So do they
do a review at any stage? Do they go, Okay,
(11:40):
why did this not work?
Speaker 3 (11:41):
Like? They must?
Speaker 5 (11:42):
It's Disney like it's.
Speaker 3 (11:43):
A huge corperation. They must, I know. But they keep
doing the same thing over and over again, which is
which is really really weird. But I think sometimes it's
hard to change directions because maybe you want to change directions,
but your projects are booked five years in advance. So actually,
course correcting on productions because they take a while to
make is a bit of a problem.
Speaker 5 (12:01):
Can they just what I just maybe put the Star
Wars thing to bid for a while, because they've forgot
that They've got the Star Wars right apparently as amazing
it doesn't Star Wars World, I'd love to disney Land
apparently is next level. Yeah, so that's good enough. You've
got that operating you're and the other ones you own
there all the old.
Speaker 3 (12:17):
Crap, and like, don't get me wrong, I'm all for
lesbian space witchers. Like I've got a lot of time
for them. I mean that sounds like a great lesbian
I'd go to the movie Lesbian space witcheres.
Speaker 5 (12:25):
Well, but when when have you ever been into lesbian
space witches? I mean, I haven't space witches ever exist.
Speaker 3 (12:31):
I used to have this post for all slave girls
from from Beyond defind Infinity, so that you know, slightly
different than space is slightly different. But I mean it's
not even the lesbian space witches. But because because people
are saying the reason why that it's only on fifteen
percent or whatever on Roden Tomatoes is because people are
review bombing it because the cultural wars. They're like, why
are we're doing this sort of stuff? But no one
(12:52):
actually gives a ship. Like Fallout just came out and
that had a female lead and everyone freaking loved it.
No one gave a ship. No one gives a ship
if someone's no one really, I mean there's weird ohs
that have a problem with that.
Speaker 5 (13:02):
Kind of stuff.
Speaker 3 (13:02):
But no one really cares if it's a good story.
People people are are app so hungry for a good
story and so hungry for a good adventure. I don't
really give a shit about the culture. Wars doesn't exist
on a good story, does it. No?
Speaker 8 (13:16):
No.
Speaker 5 (13:17):
But the other thing is when you're watching something, you
can just sometimes smell when something's been shoehorned quite right.
Speaker 3 (13:22):
Yeah, it's it's just a vibe you get.
Speaker 5 (13:24):
You go, this has got a vibe that it's trying to.
Speaker 3 (13:28):
Something that's quite right. That got a vibe with the
people that are making it, trying to project themselves into
it rather than trying to make the best freaking story
they possibly can for the entertainment of the audience and
making every decision they make to make you excited, you know,
stimulated and inspired. I mean that. I mean, if you
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don't have that goal when you start making something, it's
even people have that goal. They make shitters. People make
shitters all the time when they're trying their very best
to make something good. When you're coming in with a
whole lot of other stuff that you're trying to make
it around and and not that goal, then you've good
luck trying to make something that people give a shit about.
Speaker 5 (14:08):
Yeah, I was going to say, I saw this thing
on on the weekend that you've probably seen before, hopefully.
Unfortunately my computer only seems to play in one bloody thing,
which is really really annoying. Is it playing one year?
Why is there only playing one year?
Speaker 3 (14:26):
Have you enjoying Eric continuing to enjoy? Yeah?
Speaker 7 (14:29):
Right, I've got the last episode to go, so please,
I'm not up.
Speaker 5 (14:35):
To the last episode.
Speaker 3 (14:35):
And that's a show that people give a fuck about
that have made one. The people that have made that
have put a lot of effort into that show, haven't they.
Speaker 5 (14:43):
I love it. I love really good, I love the
I love the sitting, I love I love New York
in the nineteen eighties. That's such a great time, and
I love I was a big Jim Henson fan. I've
always loved the Muppets. I didn't like Sisimes Street as
a Sismme Street annoyed me, but I still like some
of the characters on Sisme Street. Are such a big
fan of Kermit, which has got me, which is what
I was going to say. I saw the thing on
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the during the weekend that featured Kermit and this little
girl on Sesame Street. You may have seen this before,
but it was the most amazing interaction between a human
and a puppet. I saw this as popped up on
my feet.
Speaker 3 (15:19):
And I can I play it?
Speaker 5 (15:20):
Yeah, because it's not very long, It's only a minute long.
Speaker 3 (15:23):
Why don't you copy it, paste it and put in
the dock so someone that can muster up to.
Speaker 5 (15:27):
A good idea. I'll just go like that and then
I'll copy that. Yeah, because when I saw it, I'm
going to put it in the dock under promo scripts
to read there, okay, a break there? Yeahlst. We do
need to we do need to go to break to.
Why don't we played after that? Okay? Okay? So yeah,
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it was something that blasted up on my on my
Instagram and I was like, this is the cutest interaction
between a puppet and a little girl. But the interesting
part about it was what happened afterwards, because apparently I
read about it. Jim Henson was filming with this little
girl and she was being really naughty. Well she wasn't
being naughty, but she wasn't playing ball. Yeah, yeah, she
was quite cheeky, and he actually got annoyed and you
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can detect his annoyance because Kerman actually sounds slightly different,
which is quite weird.
Speaker 3 (16:19):
But they put it out as as.
Speaker 5 (16:21):
Yeah, they ended up putting it out as us because
it was actually the end of it was actually incredibly
cute and quite real.
Speaker 3 (16:26):
Okay, well, let's give a listen to EE.
Speaker 8 (16:28):
Can you sing the alphabet? Ye? Yes, sCOD let's hear
you sing the alphabet ABC. Good you last you didn't
singing the alphabet ab CD after charge jk l mn
op Cooking Monster isn't the letter of the alphabet they
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got q RS. You're just teasing me w X why ze.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
Next time?
Speaker 8 (17:17):
Coking Master can do I'm believing.
Speaker 3 (17:21):
I love you.
Speaker 8 (17:23):
I love you too.
Speaker 3 (17:24):
Okay, oh my god, that is beautiful as Christ at
the ind there. I love you. She's funny though. She's
got a great comic timing on her cocky monster. She
does because you can see she's grimy frog here. You
can see her.
Speaker 5 (17:39):
Sort of thinking, when am I going to come in
with the cookie monster?
Speaker 3 (17:42):
But she decided to hi, but she's trying to hire us.
Speaker 5 (17:44):
She's still doing ABC.
Speaker 3 (17:45):
She's probably about four maybe three, yeah, three I think,
But you.
Speaker 5 (17:49):
Can see Jim Henson's actually kind, and he goes, what
would you do with cooking?
Speaker 8 (17:53):
Monster?
Speaker 5 (17:53):
Next time walks off and then leaves the frame. And
then she says I love you, and he comes being
ah and then and then she curs.
Speaker 3 (18:03):
I wonder what happened with that Gil. I wonder how
her life went.
Speaker 7 (18:06):
We names Joey Calvin. She was born October thirty one,
nineteen sixty seven. Just trying to do a little deep
dove on it.
Speaker 5 (18:12):
Wow, because she was going on the seventies.
Speaker 3 (18:16):
She's a cheeky, funny girl, isn't she?
Speaker 5 (18:18):
Yeah, but it was it was such a it was
a weird moment because it was a little girl and
a puppet. Yeah, And I was thinking, she can't see
Jim Henson. So is Jim Henson underneath something or behind
a curtain or something, because is she looking at She's
looking at Kermit the puppet.
Speaker 3 (18:35):
I reckon she'd be able to see him standing underneath her.
Speaker 5 (18:37):
Because the way it used to work is that they
used to have the camera and the camera was up.
They would put her up on a plump so ye girl,
and then everyone else would work standing up yeah, and
then you'd operate your puppets above your head, and they
had headsets on with with Mike's that were and they
were the people first people Children's Television workshop to design
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those headsets with the microphones that came out with the
kid bends around them and stuff. Before that, nobody they
had those. Yeah, yeah, right, and so yeah, they'd wander
around and do their puppeteering that way. I mean it's
amazing what they did. Yeah, Nson's a genius.
Speaker 3 (19:11):
He absolutely is. There's a new movie coming out called
Jim Henson Ideas Man apparently right because he was blown.
Speaker 5 (19:17):
When John Henson first started, like kerm At the Frog,
was was quite sort of adult.
Speaker 3 (19:23):
Yeah he was. It was quite shocking, wasn't he. That's
why they may meet the feebles, which was like the
natural end of if the muppets had stayed filthy, because
they'd have violence in them and stuff. Yeah, that is
so freaking cute, that kid. But yes, but you can
believe that a puppets a puppett even though you can
see the person running out. I mean I've done it before.
You know, like when people do Ventriloka stuff, you start
staring at the oh yeah, I think he just immediately
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breaks people in two. If they've got a puppet, you
know what I mean. Yeah, but I love everything about that.
I love I love Kerm and I love his performance.
That little girl's amazing. I love the background that it's
just this gray, this beautiful gray back, but it's beautifully lit.
Speaker 5 (20:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (20:03):
But at the end, which she goes, I love Luke.
So she said the joke. She's a huge fan because
she finds cookie Monster funny. Right, Yeah, so she's a
huge fan and she's gonna say cookie Monster.
Speaker 5 (20:13):
And then when kim it sort of goes, Kermit kinda
does a joke. Yeah, but he's slightly actually slightly annoyed.
And then she's like, oh, I love you.
Speaker 3 (20:21):
She actually yeah, and such a nice ways as he's
got walking away.
Speaker 5 (20:27):
I love you.
Speaker 3 (20:28):
We play that again, God, that's cute.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
Facts.
Speaker 8 (20:31):
Why asy next time? Master, can I'm believing.
Speaker 4 (20:43):
I love you.
Speaker 2 (20:45):
I love you tool Okay?
Speaker 3 (20:48):
Oh she goes, well, thanks, I love you. I love
you too.
Speaker 5 (20:53):
Oh my god, that's a sweet way to finish.
Speaker 3 (20:55):
Jesus.
Speaker 5 (20:55):
And so that went out to hear on the air
like that, yeah, because they thought they weren't going to
use it. It was like an out take, and then they
went actually it was so beautiful in such a such
a sweet, real moment that I thought, actually we'll use that.
I remember it as a kid, I remember watching that.
Speaker 3 (21:08):
You can see how Henson would have got a little
annoyed by that, because you're trying to get through the shoot.
You know, there's a lot to do, lots of shots.
You got to get it done, and so this isn't
going quite right. I mean, he's not nastily annoyed. It
doesn't go fuck you and stomp off for anything like
Bennet at Cumberbatch and Eric would.
Speaker 5 (21:27):
No, no, he doesn't. But yeah, there would have been
I know how you don't know what happened before or
you know, for the days or weeks leading into that
particular moment for Jim Henson. But I mean also Jim
Henson was running the production part of it as well.
Jim Henson was a intensely busy man.
Speaker 3 (21:46):
And then he just died. He's just Jim Henson just died.
He's been in his fifties. Yeah, he was young. He
got some kind of sickness, ay, and just just just
dropped dead. Old Jim Henson.
Speaker 5 (21:55):
So something weird happened with his kids where they owned
all of the all of the muppets, all the sisame
street stuff. And then they sold it, didn't they. And
then the company that bought it went bankrupt, and then
they bought it back again for nothing. Now they own
it again.
Speaker 3 (22:09):
That's smart, isn't it.
Speaker 5 (22:09):
I'm sure the Henson family have sold it twice. Well,
they've sold it once and they've brought it back for
really really cheap and they made like six hundred million extra.
Speaker 3 (22:17):
So Hanson appeared with Keiman on the arsen A Short
Hall show in May nineteen ninety. That was his final
television appearance. So what he returned home? When did he die?
As he's been dead that long nineteen ninety? Wow?
Speaker 5 (22:30):
Yeah, I just wow. I remember as a kid when
they were not as kid, as a teenager, when he
year when he died. But he must have been born
in the forties. I feel like he was the same
age as someone like that. It was like our parents.
He's born in nineteen thirty six, ninety thirty six, right, Yeah, Okay.
Speaker 3 (22:44):
She's died at fifty three. But Brian, Brian, Brian jumped
on and has done well, isn't he.
Speaker 7 (22:50):
Yeah, there was a documentary made in nineteen ninety I
don't know if you guys remember this called the Muppets
Celebrate Jim Henson. I just remember watching it as a kid,
and they were all really sad and really confused us
because the creator had died and they didn't know how
to explain it, and so they were trying to explain
it to the audience. And in fact, that girl Joey
appeared on that and she must have earned or like
(23:12):
twenty two old, So she appeared on that documentary where
they're trying to explain what happened to Jim Henson.
Speaker 8 (23:18):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (23:18):
Interesting what her memory of that would be though, as
you say, Jeremy, she would have just remembered the frog.
As a kid, she remember talking to a frog, not
talking to Jim Henson. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (23:26):
Do you remember there was another kid who who was
my memory from sis mistering Nose days called John John.
Remember he was a little African American kid, John John.
I wonder if they've got John John John John was
underface John John? Was John John kill him?
Speaker 3 (23:44):
To get more than one name?
Speaker 5 (23:45):
John John John John John John. Just to clarify, was
that of the last name John as well?
Speaker 3 (23:51):
They both felt John or is it John John? Here
is John John.
Speaker 5 (23:54):
Here are the monster and John John counting? All right,
there's people one here, weren't there?
Speaker 3 (24:00):
Just put it put it on the thing again. No, no,
not just put it on nothing again.
Speaker 5 (24:04):
Yeah, I'm going to I'm going to.
Speaker 3 (24:05):
Just we can't. We don't have your one like the
one a bandit?
Speaker 5 (24:09):
Why is my thing only comes from one ear? It's
not fear if they if they come. It's been four years.
Speaker 3 (24:16):
Is there anyone interested in foxing I've done something.
Speaker 5 (24:19):
I've done nothing wrong. I haven't done anything to deserve this,
and I haven't been cheating on someone or something. Well,
I mean no one has said there.
Speaker 6 (24:24):
That feels like a weird thing to say.
Speaker 5 (24:26):
No where Jerry, I'm wondering why my computer is the
only one that goes through in money because you've been
cheating on something. To be a bit paranoid about something.
Speaker 3 (24:33):
There's only one person who could have been cheating.
Speaker 5 (24:34):
But after we were talking about that cheating this morning.
Speaker 3 (24:36):
Okay, let's listen to John John's excuses. See what John John's.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
Yeah, Okay, I'll go first, you second.
Speaker 3 (24:46):
Okay, remember that you.
Speaker 4 (24:50):
Want to go first.
Speaker 3 (24:51):
Okay, you go first?
Speaker 4 (24:55):
Who five sheets, seven, eight, nine, ten, eleven, twelve thirteen?
What kay? Chapter fifteen?
Speaker 5 (25:24):
After fifteen comes.
Speaker 4 (25:30):
Sixteen?
Speaker 3 (25:31):
Oh hey, n care.
Speaker 2 (25:45):
I got that?
Speaker 3 (25:47):
Nineteen moy, John John?
Speaker 4 (25:52):
Is that you're grown up?
Speaker 2 (25:54):
Sure?
Speaker 5 (25:54):
Sary?
Speaker 3 (25:55):
Oh wow, great to see.
Speaker 8 (25:56):
I guess I don't call you John John anymore. Here
they're doing now they call me John Williams.
Speaker 2 (26:02):
What's this you got on?
Speaker 1 (26:04):
John?
Speaker 8 (26:05):
No, I'm in the Air Force. Whoa I've been in
for about.
Speaker 6 (26:09):
A year and a half.
Speaker 4 (26:10):
Maby for all times sake, we could just do a
little jounty sure from sixteen?
Speaker 2 (26:17):
Okay, I'll go first, you go second.
Speaker 1 (26:20):
Bang?
Speaker 2 (26:20):
This is six bless.
Speaker 3 (26:35):
That's fucking beautiful.
Speaker 5 (26:37):
John John, John John. What a great name? John John is?
Speaker 7 (26:40):
Yeah, John, there's a lot of dark rumors floating around
online about John John. It's not but no, no, no,
because unfortunately John John his real name is John Bernard Williams.
His birth year is nineteen sixty nine. His mother's first
name is Trina. He is from Texas, and there is
a sex offender call John Burne Williams with all the
(27:01):
same stats, and so everyone says that he is the
Sex's not true.
Speaker 3 (27:05):
All of that, just not John John. People there, ever,
go John John didn't do that? John.
Speaker 5 (27:16):
John's a great New Zealand. And you could tell he's
a great New Zealand from day one. He gave it
a hund Yeah.
Speaker 3 (27:21):
And also you knew he was, you know, destined to
great things because he was like, oh, they're first. You know,
there was a massive blue monster in front of you,
and you go, no, I'm going first.
Speaker 5 (27:32):
Counting kids are the fucking beast of us.
Speaker 3 (27:35):
Bless, bless. You know, you see something terrible like the
Echolte and you feel like childhood has been destroyed by
people that are just greedy and money, you know, money focused.
And then you see this with John John, and you
see that you know, some of these artists and creatives
actually did it for the right reasons.
Speaker 4 (27:53):
You know.
Speaker 5 (27:54):
Yeah, beautiful, beautiful, Okay, all right, okay.
Speaker 3 (27:59):
Okay, then alright then chess, you seem busy.
Speaker 5 (28:02):
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to our podcast with the the voices of Reck and Morning,
and I'm saying, it's a great technique before someone comes
in to talk about what you're going to say, and
then do the interview and then rate them afterwards.
Speaker 4 (01:43):
Ye.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
It's a little worried when I was listening to it
that maybe though that those people that came in to
talk to it listened to it. But I mean we
were nothing but nice. But you know, like we were
discussing whether we were going to raise the question of
whether Spencer Elsey Grammar's daughter, and we didn't. We didn't
raise it in the podcast, but we were. We mentioned
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at the start and at the end we talked about
how hot she was. That was. That was a good
wave because a lot of people people don't see what
goes in, do they They don't see they ain't see
the preparation and the aftermath of what we do.
Speaker 5 (02:18):
There was deep prep going into that on the Daily.
It was deep prep.
Speaker 6 (02:21):
It was an interesting circumstance, that wasn't it. And also
they were lovely and they parted the episode out on
their socials as well. And I couldn't help but think
if you listened to this episode, because there is five
minutes at the end after the air break that I
put in there just to kind of hide it away
from as much as any kind of possibility of being
heard by them, the idea that maybe the offans of
tuned in to just hear a couple of dudes talking
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about how hot or.
Speaker 5 (02:45):
They were busy. They were busy at Armageddno the weekend
with they yeah, yeah, yeah tell.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
It was a massive change in Armageddon over the years.
Like when my kids first started going to Armageddon was
all Star Wars, Yes, Marvel, Doctor Who, and none of
that exists there anymore.
Speaker 5 (03:02):
Oh what is it now?
Speaker 3 (03:03):
It's all anime. It's all anime. It's all weird animes.
Like there's a million animes and that's what people give
a shit about now. So all the costumes, you wouldn't
recognize them. You'd be hard pressed to see a Darlk anywhere.
No one gives a shit about a storm trooper, right,
you know, It's it's interesting how much things have changed.
I'm not surprised. Actually, I watched the Acolyte that New
(03:25):
Star Wars series, and it cost one hundred and eighty
million dollars to make. It might be the worst thing
I've ever seen.
Speaker 5 (03:31):
Right, what's the plot.
Speaker 3 (03:32):
It's kind of the stupid plot that makes no sense
about twin sisters. One of them's good, one of them
is bad. And as soon as there's as soon as
there's identical twin sisters in a murder mystery, you know,
that's considered the one of the rules of writing a
murder mystery that you can't go for the identical twin thing.
Not that they use this very well, but in the
third episode it's very controversial because it's so shit. People
(03:55):
are saying people don't like it because it's for the
cultural war reasons. I don't give a about the culture wars.
But in the third episodes there's this lesbian space witches
that create a pair of identical twins using the Force
so they don't have any men on their in their
little cult, and they're saying, we nearly go and extinct.
(04:17):
And then they use the Force, which they've changed the
name of it to the Thread, and they create these babies.
Speaker 5 (04:23):
Do they have sperm? Does the Force? Can the Force
create sperm?
Speaker 3 (04:26):
Well, the Force created Anakin, but that took a lot.
And anyway, it's very controversial because it misses with the
law of Star Wars. But also it's just so bad.
It's like, there's got this like sort of pantomime sets
that look like this from like that bad sci fi
that used to watch, well, like really cheap sci fi,
where everything looks like it's on a set in these
terrible costumes, and then like this this coven singing the
(04:51):
song that goes the power of one, the power of two,
the power of men. I've got a question, and I
was thinking, just to finish my point, it might be
that Star Wars has just got so bad that's why
the kids aren't into it anymore. Not the anime has
taken over, if you know what I mean.
Speaker 5 (05:06):
Like my question relates to that. So you've watched every
Star Wars. You're a huge fan of Star Wars, the
original Star Wars films and that sort of stuff you love.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
I think I've watched everything.
Speaker 5 (05:15):
Yet you watched everything. You watched The Mandalorian, you watch
anything that comes out that has anything to Star Wars.
Will you continue to watch everything that comes out? I
think that's the last of it, right, Okay, you enough.
Speaker 3 (05:26):
I think it's absolutely I think that's third episode of
the Acolyte's killed.
Speaker 5 (05:31):
It for you.
Speaker 3 (05:31):
It's just so bad. And have you seen the movie
Godzilla minus one? No fantastic movie. Each episode of this
costs more. The Achote costs more than the entire movie
Godzilla minus one. There's been one hundred and eighty million
dollars on this series and it looks so budget. I
think it's the City Rail Network of televisions. It ever
(05:52):
since Disney took over, Yeah, ever since Disney took over,
they've completely lost the plot. I think it's because they
have to make a lot of content. And like I
was saying to my kids, when I was growing up,
we saw the original Star Wars movies and we love them,
and then it was fricking ages before there was anything else,
and so we were just feverish for it. And it's
quite different when they just brand any load of shit
(06:15):
about a lesbian space which cult as Star Wars, when
it's got absolutely nothing to do with Star Wars. The
Gedo's are there, but they're kind of really uncool Judis.
There's also a bumble Atti Jedi, which is pretty funny.
Speaker 5 (06:28):
Is it a little bit like the way that I
kind of feel about rugby sometimes, where there's been so
much about Yeah, there's just so much of it and
you actually know you've got to want it.
Speaker 3 (06:38):
You've got to want it. So it was definitely bad
Star Wars, you know, let the Star Wars Christmas Special
was not good and that came out all those years ago.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
I mean.
Speaker 5 (06:45):
The idea of demand and supply is really interesting one
when it comes to entertainment because if you do, if
you do basically choke the supply, then you will increase demand.
It works.
Speaker 3 (06:55):
This happens with tournaments all the time. They think, oh,
this is going really well, Let's put more and more
games in there and extend it out so it goes
for longer, and it never works. That's always Six Nations
are such a successful tournament in rugby. It's very simple.
Six nations, they all play each other once.
Speaker 7 (07:10):
How do you reckon it would go? Like obviously, back
in the eighties they had the movie Return of the Jedi,
which was huge. How do you reckon it would go?
If they had a movie called Return of the Bombalaty Jedi.
Speaker 3 (07:20):
I don't know, I don't know how well it will
have gone.
Speaker 5 (07:22):
How is this Jedi.
Speaker 3 (07:24):
Pretty large upiring the other day or four people being
whatever weight they want to be and blessed you know everyone?
You do you? But I mean, you know, we've been
showing that Jedis have to go through a really really
rigorous training. I mean that was the whole point of
Empire Strikes Back. It's already pretty fit. Guy wasn't fit
(07:46):
enough to be a Jedi, so he had to go
and train, running through the woods of Dagabar with a
muppet on his back telling him how to that he
wasn't trying out that you know that he wasn't doing
well enough.
Speaker 5 (07:57):
So on the top pettick, since there's Jedi training or why,
I mean why how did he become He's.
Speaker 3 (08:03):
Very young, young Jedi. This guy, he's not a big
part of it. But I don't know. And it just
made me a bit sad because I was like, yeah,
I think it's right. Yet if they've done no more
Star Wars, I mean the last Disney all the Disney
Star Wars have been terrible. Apart from Rogue one, which
was quite good, I think it was okay. Yeah, and
(08:24):
also and Or was really good. I thought and Or
was bloody good.
Speaker 5 (08:27):
Didn't you like The Mandalorian?
Speaker 3 (08:29):
Like the first series of The Mandalorian, But then it
went massively off off.
Speaker 5 (08:33):
It just got so stupid. It was like.
Speaker 3 (08:37):
These TV shows they become like video games where you're
constantly doing side missions. So you go to a planet
and then you meet someone and they say, oh, you've
got to go and get this from this and then
bring it back, and then the plot will continue, and
you just get sick of that. Really, go yeah, it
doesn't doesn't. It doesn't give you the emotional buzz that
you want.
Speaker 5 (08:53):
Yeah, right, Sometimes you just got to straighten the attack.
But it's just going across, across, across, across, phase after
phase after phase, going across the field.
Speaker 3 (09:01):
I mean, I've got to go forward. I wonder if
this show The Acolytes money laundering or something.
Speaker 5 (09:07):
Like.
Speaker 3 (09:08):
It just doesn't look like that amount of money. It
does not look like one hundred and eighty million dollars.
Have you read anything about it before you watched it?
Speaker 8 (09:14):
No?
Speaker 3 (09:15):
Okay no, But I was confused because there's been and
Or a Shoker and then Acolytes. So there was these
three in rapid success, and there was these three Star
Wars shows beginning with a But when I was watching that,
I felt quite depressed because it's been a whole lifetime
of mine loving Star Wars, and then you get to
this one show and these people who have taken it
over have no interest in the topic at all. They
(09:37):
kind of just want to destroy it. I think that's
part of it, this kind of this postmodern thing where
to move forward you have to destroy what was before,
which you know, obviously that happens in art quite a lot,
and it's a legitimate approach to things. But as a
long term fan, I guess that just means it's not
for me anymore. Maybe it's fine.
Speaker 5 (09:54):
Run out of there's just you get to a certain
point and then that universe just runs out of gas. Maybe, yeah,
I mean that's what happens in the universe, isn't it. Yeah,
things just run out of gas eventually. Yeah, maybe that's it,
and maybe things just can't go forever. But my son,
who he just said, why are we watching this? And
I said, you know, and that's a really good point,
and he said, why. This is clearly terrible.
Speaker 3 (10:16):
They clearly have put no effort in, you know, it's
clearly just been a money grab for the people that
are making it. So while we're watching it, and I said,
I guess because I like Star Wars, and he goes, well,
you did like Star Wars, Dad. It's terrible in your
fourteen year olds telling all these things. And it goes
just because this is rubbish. Now, it doesn't mean the
stuff that you liked has changed. It doesn't actually affect
the stuff that you like. Just watch the stuff you
like and then move on. It's not it doesn't matter.
(10:38):
It's just a big corporate product that's been thrown out there.
You don't have to consume their content just because they
produce it.
Speaker 5 (10:44):
No, you know, no, geez your footing, you're not smart.
Speaker 3 (10:46):
Yes, I mean this burger's being produced every day that
I don't et yep, because I think they're not good
for me.
Speaker 5 (10:51):
Yeah. I used to love burgers.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 7 (10:54):
To prove your point a little bit, Google users rate
the show twenty two percent like it im dB I
think it's three point six out of ten, but strangely
Rodden Tomatoes think it's eighty four percent.
Speaker 3 (11:06):
Well, go to rodin Tomatoes, but go to the audience score.
Can you flick that over to the audience score and
Rod and tomatoes. Oh okay, okay, because because there's a
lot of people that fifteen percent per so.
Speaker 5 (11:18):
Just wait for six So so okay, so you've got
this thing right, Disney pay one hundred and eighty million, yeah,
yeah to make this thing and then people clearly don't
really like it. Yeah, people mustn't be down like, people
mustn't be viewing it in the right amount. You know,
it's not going to take off. Yeah, So do they
do a review at any stage? Do they go, Okay,
(11:40):
why did this not work?
Speaker 3 (11:41):
Like? They must?
Speaker 5 (11:42):
It's Disney like it's.
Speaker 3 (11:43):
A huge corperation. They must, I know. But they keep
doing the same thing over and over again, which is
which is really really weird. But I think sometimes it's
hard to change directions because maybe you want to change directions,
but your projects are booked five years in advance. So actually,
course correcting on productions because they take a while to
make is a bit of a problem.
Speaker 5 (12:01):
Can they just what I just maybe put the Star
Wars thing to bid for a while, because they've forgot
that They've got the Star Wars right apparently as amazing
it doesn't Star Wars World, I'd love to disney Land
apparently is next level. Yeah, so that's good enough. You've
got that operating you're and the other ones you own
there all the old.
Speaker 3 (12:17):
Crap, and like, don't get me wrong, I'm all for
lesbian space witchers. Like I've got a lot of time
for them. I mean that sounds like a great lesbian
I'd go to the movie Lesbian space witcheres.
Speaker 5 (12:25):
Well, but when when have you ever been into lesbian
space witches? I mean, I haven't space witches ever exist.
Speaker 3 (12:31):
I used to have this post for all slave girls
from from Beyond defind Infinity, so that you know, slightly
different than space is slightly different. But I mean it's
not even the lesbian space witches. But because because people
are saying the reason why that it's only on fifteen
percent or whatever on Roden Tomatoes is because people are
review bombing it because the cultural wars. They're like, why
are we're doing this sort of stuff? But no one
(12:52):
actually gives a ship. Like Fallout just came out and
that had a female lead and everyone freaking loved it.
No one gave a ship. No one gives a ship
if someone's no one really, I mean there's weird ohs
that have a problem with that.
Speaker 5 (13:02):
Kind of stuff.
Speaker 3 (13:02):
But no one really cares if it's a good story.
People people are are app so hungry for a good
story and so hungry for a good adventure. I don't
really give a shit about the culture. Wars doesn't exist
on a good story, does it. No?
Speaker 8 (13:16):
No.
Speaker 5 (13:17):
But the other thing is when you're watching something, you
can just sometimes smell when something's been shoehorned quite right.
Speaker 3 (13:22):
Yeah, it's it's just a vibe you get.
Speaker 5 (13:24):
You go, this has got a vibe that it's trying to.
Speaker 3 (13:28):
Something that's quite right. That got a vibe with the
people that are making it, trying to project themselves into
it rather than trying to make the best freaking story
they possibly can for the entertainment of the audience and
making every decision they make to make you excited, you know,
stimulated and inspired. I mean that. I mean, if you
(13:49):
don't have that goal when you start making something, it's
even people have that goal. They make shitters. People make
shitters all the time when they're trying their very best
to make something good. When you're coming in with a
whole lot of other stuff that you're trying to make
it around and and not that goal, then you've good
luck trying to make something that people give a shit about.
Speaker 5 (14:08):
Yeah, I was going to say, I saw this thing
on on the weekend that you've probably seen before, hopefully.
Unfortunately my computer only seems to play in one bloody thing,
which is really really annoying. Is it playing one year?
Why is there only playing one year?
Speaker 3 (14:26):
Have you enjoying Eric continuing to enjoy? Yeah?
Speaker 7 (14:29):
Right, I've got the last episode to go, so please,
I'm not up.
Speaker 5 (14:35):
To the last episode.
Speaker 3 (14:35):
And that's a show that people give a fuck about
that have made one. The people that have made that
have put a lot of effort into that show, haven't they.
Speaker 5 (14:43):
I love it. I love really good, I love the
I love the sitting, I love I love New York
in the nineteen eighties. That's such a great time, and
I love I was a big Jim Henson fan. I've
always loved the Muppets. I didn't like Sisimes Street as
a Sismme Street annoyed me, but I still like some
of the characters on Sisme Street. Are such a big
fan of Kermit, which has got me, which is what
I was going to say. I saw the thing on
(15:05):
the during the weekend that featured Kermit and this little
girl on Sesame Street. You may have seen this before,
but it was the most amazing interaction between a human
and a puppet. I saw this as popped up on
my feet.
Speaker 3 (15:19):
And I can I play it?
Speaker 5 (15:20):
Yeah, because it's not very long, It's only a minute long.
Speaker 3 (15:23):
Why don't you copy it, paste it and put in
the dock so someone that can muster up to.
Speaker 5 (15:27):
A good idea. I'll just go like that and then
I'll copy that. Yeah, because when I saw it, I'm
going to put it in the dock under promo scripts
to read there, okay, a break there? Yeahlst. We do
need to we do need to go to break to.
Why don't we played after that? Okay? Okay? So yeah,
(15:51):
it was something that blasted up on my on my
Instagram and I was like, this is the cutest interaction
between a puppet and a little girl. But the interesting
part about it was what happened afterwards, because apparently I
read about it. Jim Henson was filming with this little
girl and she was being really naughty. Well she wasn't
being naughty, but she wasn't playing ball. Yeah, yeah, she
was quite cheeky, and he actually got annoyed and you
(16:13):
can detect his annoyance because Kerman actually sounds slightly different,
which is quite weird.
Speaker 3 (16:19):
But they put it out as as.
Speaker 5 (16:21):
Yeah, they ended up putting it out as us because
it was actually the end of it was actually incredibly
cute and quite real.
Speaker 3 (16:26):
Okay, well, let's give a listen to EE.
Speaker 8 (16:28):
Can you sing the alphabet? Ye? Yes, sCOD let's hear
you sing the alphabet ABC. Good you last you didn't
singing the alphabet ab CD after charge jk l mn
op Cooking Monster isn't the letter of the alphabet they
(16:59):
got q RS. You're just teasing me w X why ze.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
Next time?
Speaker 8 (17:17):
Coking Master can do I'm believing.
Speaker 3 (17:21):
I love you.
Speaker 8 (17:23):
I love you too.
Speaker 3 (17:24):
Okay, oh my god, that is beautiful as Christ at
the ind there. I love you. She's funny though. She's
got a great comic timing on her cocky monster. She
does because you can see she's grimy frog here. You
can see her.
Speaker 5 (17:39):
Sort of thinking, when am I going to come in
with the cookie monster?
Speaker 3 (17:42):
But she decided to hi, but she's trying to hire us.
Speaker 5 (17:44):
She's still doing ABC.
Speaker 3 (17:45):
She's probably about four maybe three, yeah, three I think,
But you.
Speaker 5 (17:49):
Can see Jim Henson's actually kind, and he goes, what
would you do with cooking?
Speaker 8 (17:53):
Monster?
Speaker 5 (17:53):
Next time walks off and then leaves the frame. And
then she says I love you, and he comes being
ah and then and then she curs.
Speaker 3 (18:03):
I wonder what happened with that Gil. I wonder how
her life went.
Speaker 7 (18:06):
We names Joey Calvin. She was born October thirty one,
nineteen sixty seven. Just trying to do a little deep
dove on it.
Speaker 5 (18:12):
Wow, because she was going on the seventies.
Speaker 3 (18:16):
She's a cheeky, funny girl, isn't she?
Speaker 5 (18:18):
Yeah, but it was it was such a it was
a weird moment because it was a little girl and
a puppet. Yeah, And I was thinking, she can't see
Jim Henson. So is Jim Henson underneath something or behind
a curtain or something, because is she looking at She's
looking at Kermit the puppet.
Speaker 3 (18:35):
I reckon she'd be able to see him standing underneath her.
Speaker 5 (18:37):
Because the way it used to work is that they
used to have the camera and the camera was up.
They would put her up on a plump so ye girl,
and then everyone else would work standing up yeah, and
then you'd operate your puppets above your head, and they
had headsets on with with Mike's that were and they
were the people first people Children's Television workshop to design
(18:58):
those headsets with the microphones that came out with the
kid bends around them and stuff. Before that, nobody they
had those. Yeah, yeah, right, and so yeah, they'd wander
around and do their puppeteering that way. I mean it's
amazing what they did. Yeah, Nson's a genius.
Speaker 3 (19:11):
He absolutely is. There's a new movie coming out called
Jim Henson Ideas Man apparently right because he was blown.
Speaker 5 (19:17):
When John Henson first started, like kerm At the Frog,
was was quite sort of adult.
Speaker 3 (19:23):
Yeah he was. It was quite shocking, wasn't he. That's
why they may meet the feebles, which was like the
natural end of if the muppets had stayed filthy, because
they'd have violence in them and stuff. Yeah, that is
so freaking cute, that kid. But yes, but you can
believe that a puppets a puppett even though you can
see the person running out. I mean I've done it before.
You know, like when people do Ventriloka stuff, you start
staring at the oh yeah, I think he just immediately
(19:46):
breaks people in two. If they've got a puppet, you
know what I mean. Yeah, but I love everything about that.
I love I love Kerm and I love his performance.
That little girl's amazing. I love the background that it's
just this gray, this beautiful gray back, but it's beautifully lit.
Speaker 5 (20:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (20:03):
But at the end, which she goes, I love Luke.
So she said the joke. She's a huge fan because
she finds cookie Monster funny. Right, Yeah, so she's a
huge fan and she's gonna say cookie Monster.
Speaker 5 (20:13):
And then when kim it sort of goes, Kermit kinda
does a joke. Yeah, but he's slightly actually slightly annoyed.
And then she's like, oh, I love you.
Speaker 3 (20:21):
She actually yeah, and such a nice ways as he's
got walking away.
Speaker 5 (20:27):
I love you.
Speaker 3 (20:28):
We play that again, God, that's cute.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
Facts.
Speaker 8 (20:31):
Why asy next time? Master, can I'm believing.
Speaker 4 (20:43):
I love you.
Speaker 2 (20:45):
I love you tool Okay?
Speaker 3 (20:48):
Oh she goes, well, thanks, I love you. I love
you too.
Speaker 5 (20:53):
Oh my god, that's a sweet way to finish.
Speaker 3 (20:55):
Jesus.
Speaker 5 (20:55):
And so that went out to hear on the air
like that, yeah, because they thought they weren't going to
use it. It was like an out take, and then they
went actually it was so beautiful in such a such
a sweet, real moment that I thought, actually we'll use that.
I remember it as a kid, I remember watching that.
Speaker 3 (21:08):
You can see how Henson would have got a little
annoyed by that, because you're trying to get through the shoot.
You know, there's a lot to do, lots of shots.
You got to get it done, and so this isn't
going quite right. I mean, he's not nastily annoyed. It
doesn't go fuck you and stomp off for anything like
Bennet at Cumberbatch and Eric would.
Speaker 5 (21:27):
No, no, he doesn't. But yeah, there would have been
I know how you don't know what happened before or
you know, for the days or weeks leading into that
particular moment for Jim Henson. But I mean also Jim
Henson was running the production part of it as well.
Jim Henson was a intensely busy man.
Speaker 3 (21:46):
And then he just died. He's just Jim Henson just died.
He's been in his fifties. Yeah, he was young. He
got some kind of sickness, ay, and just just just
dropped dead. Old Jim Henson.
Speaker 5 (21:55):
So something weird happened with his kids where they owned
all of the all of the muppets, all the sisame
street stuff. And then they sold it, didn't they. And
then the company that bought it went bankrupt, and then
they bought it back again for nothing. Now they own
it again.
Speaker 3 (22:09):
That's smart, isn't it.
Speaker 5 (22:09):
I'm sure the Henson family have sold it twice. Well,
they've sold it once and they've brought it back for
really really cheap and they made like six hundred million extra.
Speaker 3 (22:17):
So Hanson appeared with Keiman on the arsen A Short
Hall show in May nineteen ninety. That was his final
television appearance. So what he returned home? When did he die?
As he's been dead that long nineteen ninety? Wow?
Speaker 5 (22:30):
Yeah, I just wow. I remember as a kid when
they were not as kid, as a teenager, when he
year when he died. But he must have been born
in the forties. I feel like he was the same
age as someone like that. It was like our parents.
He's born in nineteen thirty six, ninety thirty six, right, Yeah, Okay.
Speaker 3 (22:44):
She's died at fifty three. But Brian, Brian, Brian jumped
on and has done well, isn't he.
Speaker 7 (22:50):
Yeah, there was a documentary made in nineteen ninety I
don't know if you guys remember this called the Muppets
Celebrate Jim Henson. I just remember watching it as a kid,
and they were all really sad and really confused us
because the creator had died and they didn't know how
to explain it, and so they were trying to explain
it to the audience. And in fact, that girl Joey
appeared on that and she must have earned or like
(23:12):
twenty two old, So she appeared on that documentary where
they're trying to explain what happened to Jim Henson.
Speaker 8 (23:18):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (23:18):
Interesting what her memory of that would be though, as
you say, Jeremy, she would have just remembered the frog.
As a kid, she remember talking to a frog, not
talking to Jim Henson. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (23:26):
Do you remember there was another kid who who was
my memory from sis mistering Nose days called John John.
Remember he was a little African American kid, John John.
I wonder if they've got John John John John was
underface John John? Was John John kill him?
Speaker 3 (23:44):
To get more than one name?
Speaker 5 (23:45):
John John John John John John. Just to clarify, was
that of the last name John as well?
Speaker 3 (23:51):
They both felt John or is it John John? Here
is John John.
Speaker 5 (23:54):
Here are the monster and John John counting? All right,
there's people one here, weren't there?
Speaker 3 (24:00):
Just put it put it on the thing again. No, no,
not just put it on nothing again.
Speaker 5 (24:04):
Yeah, I'm going to I'm going to.
Speaker 3 (24:05):
Just we can't. We don't have your one like the
one a bandit?
Speaker 5 (24:09):
Why is my thing only comes from one ear? It's
not fear if they if they come. It's been four years.
Speaker 3 (24:16):
Is there anyone interested in foxing I've done something.
Speaker 5 (24:19):
I've done nothing wrong. I haven't done anything to deserve this,
and I haven't been cheating on someone or something. Well,
I mean no one has said there.
Speaker 6 (24:24):
That feels like a weird thing to say.
Speaker 5 (24:26):
No where Jerry, I'm wondering why my computer is the
only one that goes through in money because you've been
cheating on something. To be a bit paranoid about something.
Speaker 3 (24:33):
There's only one person who could have been cheating.
Speaker 5 (24:34):
But after we were talking about that cheating this morning.
Speaker 3 (24:36):
Okay, let's listen to John John's excuses. See what John John's.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
Yeah, Okay, I'll go first, you second.
Speaker 3 (24:46):
Okay, remember that you.
Speaker 4 (24:50):
Want to go first.
Speaker 3 (24:51):
Okay, you go first?
Speaker 4 (24:55):
Who five sheets, seven, eight, nine, ten, eleven, twelve thirteen?
What kay? Chapter fifteen?
Speaker 5 (25:24):
After fifteen comes.
Speaker 4 (25:30):
Sixteen?
Speaker 3 (25:31):
Oh hey, n care.
Speaker 2 (25:45):
I got that?
Speaker 3 (25:47):
Nineteen moy, John John?
Speaker 4 (25:52):
Is that you're grown up?
Speaker 2 (25:54):
Sure?
Speaker 5 (25:54):
Sary?
Speaker 3 (25:55):
Oh wow, great to see.
Speaker 8 (25:56):
I guess I don't call you John John anymore. Here
they're doing now they call me John Williams.
Speaker 2 (26:02):
What's this you got on?
Speaker 1 (26:04):
John?
Speaker 8 (26:05):
No, I'm in the Air Force. Whoa I've been in
for about.
Speaker 6 (26:09):
A year and a half.
Speaker 4 (26:10):
Maby for all times sake, we could just do a
little jounty sure from sixteen?
Speaker 2 (26:17):
Okay, I'll go first, you go second.
Speaker 1 (26:20):
Bang?
Speaker 2 (26:20):
This is six bless.
Speaker 3 (26:35):
That's fucking beautiful.
Speaker 5 (26:37):
John John, John John. What a great name? John John is?
Speaker 7 (26:40):
Yeah, John, there's a lot of dark rumors floating around
online about John John. It's not but no, no, no,
because unfortunately John John his real name is John Bernard Williams.
His birth year is nineteen sixty nine. His mother's first
name is Trina. He is from Texas, and there is
a sex offender call John Burne Williams with all the
(27:01):
same stats, and so everyone says that he is the
Sex's not true.
Speaker 3 (27:05):
All of that, just not John John. People there, ever,
go John John didn't do that? John.
Speaker 5 (27:16):
John's a great New Zealand. And you could tell he's
a great New Zealand from day one. He gave it
a hund Yeah.
Speaker 3 (27:21):
And also you knew he was, you know, destined to
great things because he was like, oh, they're first. You know,
there was a massive blue monster in front of you,
and you go, no, I'm going first.
Speaker 5 (27:32):
Counting kids are the fucking beast of us.
Speaker 3 (27:35):
Bless, bless. You know, you see something terrible like the
Echolte and you feel like childhood has been destroyed by
people that are just greedy and money, you know, money focused.
And then you see this with John John, and you
see that you know, some of these artists and creatives
actually did it for the right reasons.
Speaker 4 (27:53):
You know.
Speaker 5 (27:54):
Yeah, beautiful, beautiful, Okay, all right, okay.
Speaker 3 (27:59):
Okay, then alright then chess, you seem busy.
Speaker 5 (28:02):
God love you alright, Love you, love you, love you,
Love you too,
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