Magic With Cosentino - The Daily Bespoke June 19

Today on the Daily Bespoke, the fellas catch up the magical "Cosentino" ahead of his New Zealand tour... 

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Speaker 4 (01:18):
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It is the nineteenth of June twenty twenty four. Welcome
all ye bespokey dokies. Today we've got a magician coming
on the show, Constantino. So we've got no idea when
he's going to appear. He can you just gonna appear
in the studio? Can you pronounce his name right, please,
because we don't want you getting this wrong.

Speaker 4 (01:44):
Constantino. It's Constantino, that's right, Constantina. I don't want to
hear you calling him Constantino. Constantino. It's got no tea
at the beginning there. He's written, produced, and start an
eighty highly successful primetime specials in Australia.

Speaker 2 (01:58):
How many failed ones?

Speaker 4 (02:00):
I don't know. We'll have to ask him which now
that's the first question we'll ask.

Speaker 2 (02:04):
Is he Australian? Yep, so it can. Constantino commented on
his upcoming New Zealand tour. This is what he said.
It's a great honor to bring my brain new stage
reduction dysenium, the greatest hitch tor to a tiuroa. This
production is very dear to me as it represents everything

(02:25):
I have achieved, both professionally and personally over the last
ten years. I wonder what kind of personal magic he
brings to the situation.

Speaker 4 (02:31):
Well, were we going to find out? So he's his
shows have been seen by over five hundred million people?

Speaker 5 (02:37):
Shit?

Speaker 4 (02:38):
Or is that just an illusion? Yeah? Those numbers? Has
he magicked up those numbers? You can do those numbers real.

Speaker 2 (02:44):
I'll tell you what. You can never trust a magician
because the profession is the tricky. So if a magician
tricks you, they say, wow, mate, that's what it says
on the box. So what it sees on my box
says on what whose box? That's what it said on
the box said, I'm here to fool you.

Speaker 4 (03:00):
So your job in this interview that we're about to
do with Constantino is to ask him whether or not
at any stage he's ever magic his downstairs into a
woman's vagina. That's your job. You've got to shoehorn that question,
whether you're a magician or right. You've got to ask us, obviously,
don't you, Yeah, of course, of course, Well, so.

Speaker 2 (03:20):
As you the question would be, have I go he
said to a woman? Yep, do you consent to me?
Magicking my downstairs to disappear from my body and float
across the room without the use of trekky curtains and lighting. Yep,
and then make love to you in a consensual fashion.

Speaker 4 (03:41):
Whilst you're being sworn in half.

Speaker 5 (03:44):
Yeah, I mean, I feel like, guys, I've gotta be
honest with you. It seems a little bit like to
me and call me crazy that you just don't know
a whole lot about Constantino.

Speaker 4 (03:57):
Well, sorry, ah, I forgot You're you used to be
an image your magician, didn't you, mash Yeah.

Speaker 5 (04:01):
I took magic very seriously for a couple of months.

Speaker 3 (04:03):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (04:03):
I was one of those kids, and I think it
was because my parents were very anti screens. I'm never
at a PlayStation or anything like that. I used to
have just weirdly addictive spurts in my life, like I'd
just get really into something. I'll teach you ab how
to do it, and then I'd do it. YEA had
about two weeks with magic once I did you put
some videos together? Where did I see you on YouTube?

(04:23):
On YouTube doing magic? No, it was because that that
there that magic video as a was we had we
did like a school. We were doing like a school
video project. It was like a part of media studies
and year to do like a teaching course. So I
decided to do like I would make like a how
to video on how to do some kind of low
level magic trick. That was actually before I even got

(04:43):
into magic. And after that, Oh yeah, so that's that's
that how you started, how the spark started. Yeah, we
had to make some kind of video tutorial, was the project.
And then all of a sudden, I, I don't really
know how to do anything, so I'll just learned how
to do something and then teach that.

Speaker 2 (04:57):
If you're fucking Johnny fucking David copperfiel Old.

Speaker 4 (05:00):
No I didn't say, David Blaine, No, I didn't say.
I was fucking think.

Speaker 2 (05:03):
You're better than the rest of us because you've pulled
a rabbit out of your ass. Well, I pulled a
rabbit out of my arm, and you can do you
can take the lead in this thing about it.

Speaker 4 (05:11):
I think you should take Constantina. I think you should Constantino.
But also so just to be clear, you didn't start
doing magic because you wanted to magic your downcas operation
into a woman's vagina.

Speaker 5 (05:23):
It just kind of content it just kind of turns
into that after after a while, as you go, man,
how far could I take this? But it didn't start
like that, Okay, I didn't. I gotta be honest, Jerry,
I was about nine.

Speaker 4 (05:33):
Yeah, it wasn't a video.

Speaker 5 (05:35):
Wasn't a huge focus of mine to magic my downstairs
into a woman's downstairs.

Speaker 2 (05:39):
Did you used to wear like big, billowy white shirts
like David Copperfield does?

Speaker 5 (05:43):
I didn't think I did you?

Speaker 4 (05:44):
Did you had a billowy white shirt? You did? You
addressed as a magician?

Speaker 5 (05:49):
Did I have an assistant in that video?

Speaker 3 (05:52):
No?

Speaker 5 (05:52):
I should have. I really should have taken magic further.
It would have been a far better thing to do.

Speaker 2 (05:57):
Well, what why don't you? I mean you still you're
only young?

Speaker 4 (05:59):
What are you to.

Speaker 5 (06:00):
One twenty four? What if me and the MIDI gets
stuck into it? Maybe it's something me and who could
do together.

Speaker 2 (06:06):
She couldn't mind seeing Lauren and like like one of
those outfits that that that the assistant wears.

Speaker 5 (06:11):
Yeah you're referring to the tight lines. Yeah, yeah, No,
I can see why you're saying that. Neither neither.

Speaker 2 (06:16):
I wouldn't mind you're doing that.

Speaker 5 (06:17):
But the only problem is now that I've got a media,
I suppose that it defeats the purpose of magic, because
that's why everyone gets into magic.

Speaker 2 (06:23):
It is for the check a woman into magic? A woman?

Speaker 4 (06:27):
Mate?

Speaker 5 (06:27):
Have you ever seen what a magic trick does to
a lady?

Speaker 2 (06:30):
What does it do to her?

Speaker 5 (06:33):
Feature cloth? Mate?

Speaker 4 (06:34):
Is all I'll say, Really, it's not. That's not a
magic trick, mash they got just basic biology.

Speaker 2 (06:40):
I got into podcasting because I thought it would do.

Speaker 5 (06:42):
That to a woman.

Speaker 4 (06:42):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (06:42):
Same, it doesn't do it.

Speaker 2 (06:44):
That doesn't do it.

Speaker 4 (06:45):
Moment not this podcast. This podcast is dry like bloody. Yeah,
it is the opposite f the mob. Yeah, you get
the damping things just like this is like this is
like dipping yourself on sand.

Speaker 2 (06:56):
You get the old bonus from people listening to it.

Speaker 5 (06:58):
But this is like sawdust for sticking your cock and
sand or sawdust have you stick?

Speaker 4 (07:04):
You know when people used to vomit? Does he remember this?
At school assemblies and stuff and someone would vomit all
over the floor and then someone would appear with a
with a bucket of sand, maybe sordust.

Speaker 2 (07:14):
Maybe at your Lardi Dasko?

Speaker 4 (07:15):
Does this hell it works? Does anyone ever know? Nobody
ever else turned up with some sordust Nazi youth camp
where you're running and at your school that people were
vomiting in side assembly. It only happened once or twice,
but I just remember the swordust would appear. I don't
even know where they got the sawdust from sawdust. Seemed
like there's a lot more sawdust when I was growing
up than what there is nowadays. I don't know. Here

(07:36):
we go.

Speaker 2 (07:36):
I've got some can you put this through? Please?

Speaker 5 (07:38):
Have you got me?

Speaker 4 (07:39):
I've got some fun getty, I've got I suspect there'll
be a high voice. This is cute, all cup sticking.
So then I had another cup sticking phase. Yeah, I
was just into this kind of weird stuff. Is that
coming through cupping?

Speaker 5 (07:52):
Yep?

Speaker 6 (07:52):
I go here.

Speaker 5 (07:53):
I love for cupping.

Speaker 4 (07:55):
Here's fanetti.

Speaker 2 (07:58):
Stout your video before you fucking start mate?

Speaker 5 (08:00):
Oh so am I if I pushed record?

Speaker 4 (08:02):
Yes?

Speaker 7 (08:03):
Week four? I think four five four one.

Speaker 5 (08:08):
Oh it's me. Oh this is making me call emotional enough.

Speaker 7 (08:14):
I've been purchasing a week in not as much sweet
because I've been rather busy with Oh this is I'm
waking still, but I've been trying when I've had time
I've been showing my big scores now at eleven point
ninety five, can you pause?

Speaker 5 (08:29):
Spot which I'm happy? So this is classic mas, very cute.
I saw a video of a someone doing some like capsticking.
I thought, you know what, this is the type of
thing I want to do. This is right up my alley.
And then I think I did like weekly progress updates,
was this is the thing that I did as a kid.
You can see how I ended up here. I was
bringing tears to my eyes and I don't even know why.

Speaker 2 (08:47):
It's a bit a big ground story for it sounds
so South Island.

Speaker 4 (08:49):
Why is this bring tears to my eyes? It's so cute.

Speaker 7 (08:52):
I get lots of themes and lots twelves, and I
don't really hit a score over fifteen. Apart from not
worn out.

Speaker 4 (08:59):
It's you, but I small, younger vision. How old am
I do you?

Speaker 5 (09:02):
Reckon?

Speaker 3 (09:03):
There?

Speaker 5 (09:04):
About nine?

Speaker 4 (09:07):
You're good?

Speaker 5 (09:09):
Whoa? I didn't take it light.

Speaker 4 (09:12):
It seems like you're running a horse through the through
the crame.

Speaker 2 (09:16):
No, he's cup stacking at pace.

Speaker 5 (09:19):
I mean, look at me, you go?

Speaker 2 (09:23):
That was thirteen point out three seconds.

Speaker 5 (09:25):
Oh see that's not no, not my bestweat.

Speaker 2 (09:27):
It's really funny because even on your little time and
you've got Finketty written on the top of your time
and like you know kids right the name on things
like there's a lot of people trying to steal your
your cup tap. That's okay, but I want to see
another one where I can actually see you.

Speaker 5 (09:41):
There'll be another one there, I think with my face
in it. From that not so Mesh, because I wasn't
known Mesh at the age of nine.

Speaker 2 (09:47):
Do you know what's interesting about this?

Speaker 5 (09:48):
What is interesting about this?

Speaker 2 (09:50):
This is only eleven years ago.

Speaker 5 (09:52):
No, I was third aen or so, I mean, that's dope,
So I would have been. I was at primary school
and I got into that. We went over to Japan.
My family took me to Japan and I saw some
people cup stacking, and then I bought some of those
cups in Japan. There was the big purchase.

Speaker 2 (10:06):
So on this video, this copstick a cup stack in
week one, yep, week two, the.

Speaker 4 (10:12):
Cop stack in week one will show my face?

Speaker 2 (10:14):
Okay, Oh so cute today.

Speaker 8 (10:18):
I think that's my first video on my page. Actually,
well this is my first video.

Speaker 3 (10:22):
I'm heavy.

Speaker 8 (10:26):
Speed sticking, which I just found these original cups that
came original and probably the first competition.

Speaker 3 (10:35):
Time of the It's my old house that I'm in.

Speaker 8 (10:38):
And I found in the bottom in the cover.

Speaker 2 (10:40):
Oh this is killing me.

Speaker 8 (10:41):
Brung it out last night.

Speaker 4 (10:42):
Actually so cute.

Speaker 8 (10:44):
I think that's quite nice. I've just been him to
go with it today.

Speaker 2 (10:47):
I can tell you're going to be a broadcast, very articulate, and.

Speaker 8 (10:49):
I've been working up for about fifteen minutes.

Speaker 2 (10:51):
Great, Yeah, it's so sothne.

Speaker 8 (10:56):
No. I thought every week now, I thought, I'll show
you the progress I make.

Speaker 3 (11:00):
Have you got.

Speaker 8 (11:04):
Straight towards the competition obviously, But at the moment my
cap sticking is not even nearly competition worthy.

Speaker 2 (11:10):
So this is competition worthy?

Speaker 3 (11:15):
I am does this look?

Speaker 5 (11:17):
I mean, poor Constantine's about it coming here. Even the
first after that podcast is going to be about me
and my cap sticking.

Speaker 2 (11:23):
Constantine's not able to follow.

Speaker 4 (11:24):
This video endeavors so innocent and so sweet.

Speaker 5 (11:29):
You can see how I got into this type of
thing though, because I was just so I was always
so bored, so I just got into anything that I could,
and then i'd make videos. We'll talk about it.

Speaker 2 (11:37):
But you're obviously such a nice kid. Yeah, are you're
doing it in your pjs, which is a little.

Speaker 4 (11:42):
Bit Yeah, but lazy. I was.

Speaker 5 (11:45):
There was a time back then I remember it when.
In fact, I think it came back around again recently
we're wearing pjs is every day clothes. Was quite a
cool thing to do.

Speaker 2 (11:52):
This is fucking bullshit. You've only got two subscribers.

Speaker 5 (11:54):
I see that's just three now and then I'm sure
it's going to go up after this subscribe.

Speaker 2 (11:58):
So go to it's finn. Do you know nine nine
four thin cady four if I in c A D
D I E nine O nine four.

Speaker 5 (12:09):
I don't know, But do you know when like you
go through a phase? Right, So I don't that account.
I definitely don't have any excess to So that's just
can't even be removed from the internet. That is what
it is. But there's a phase where you go through
in like your late teens, and you know that there
stuff's out there, and you just get horrifically embarrassed. And
I've just realized we're listening back to that for the
first time ever. I did a small part of me
that's kind of happy that embarrassed.

Speaker 2 (12:29):
It's quite weird far enough now that you're a full
out out that. That's not embarrassing.

Speaker 5 (12:34):
It's not embarrassing.

Speaker 2 (12:34):
It's embarrassing at all. It's really cool. You want, but
I want to know where I saw I came across
a video of you doing magic.

Speaker 5 (12:43):
That one that you saw of me doing magic was
a private one. That was one that sits How did I.

Speaker 2 (12:48):
Get into that?

Speaker 1 (12:48):
That was?

Speaker 5 (12:49):
It was s one of them. We never forgured out
who sent it. But someone I went to school with
sent it to you.

Speaker 2 (12:53):
It's right, Yeah, someone I made if you will send
it to you, Yeah, that's right.

Speaker 5 (12:56):
Someone I went to school with that syt that and
so maybe we can find that. But and yeah, I
was into a lot of things growing up.

Speaker 4 (13:03):
The great Constantino Constantina. Let's get that right. I mean,
if you get I'm going to correct you.

Speaker 2 (13:08):
Is there something like constant.

Speaker 4 (13:10):
What's what's ready to bringing is? No, that's this is
not Constantina. Hey should we go to a break and come.

Speaker 2 (13:15):
Back with constant Constantine thingers?

Speaker 4 (13:18):
We're at thirteen minutes?

Speaker 5 (13:19):
Yeah, sure, we're we happy with their first half.

Speaker 2 (13:20):
Hey, I'm going to go on magic. Some content that's
inside my body out of my body.

Speaker 5 (13:27):
Okay, you're gonna to take a ship a poo.

Speaker 2 (13:30):
So if Constantino comes in here before I'm back, then
can you magic up some questions?

Speaker 4 (13:34):
So you're going to do a pool in the middle
of the desk where constantinos about something. He's going to
turn and say what is that? And you go, that's
something I'm magic.

Speaker 5 (13:41):
Up earlier on.

Speaker 4 (13:46):
I feel like I feel like that will be a first.
But also I don't know if I can. I want
to smell it.

Speaker 2 (13:54):
Okay, Oh, I'm not going to do that. Actually, I
don't think I will do that. I think I'll go
on this episode Glai and Gate three, He'll be in there,
will be in there.

Speaker 8 (14:04):
All.

Speaker 2 (14:05):
I'll be as fast as I can. But if I
come back and Constantina hasn't magic and if Constantino isn't
here when I get back, he goes in a lot
of trouble. He might be in here right now because
he might be able to do in visibility.

Speaker 4 (14:17):
I've got so many questions for Constantino. I've got so
many questions.

Speaker 5 (14:21):
Yeah, that are going to be inappropriate. You go, I'll
be taking a break to here. Okay, we'll see in
a bit with Constantino Jerry's gonna ask him about that
cock and.

Speaker 4 (14:29):
The question and so many questions.

Speaker 5 (14:32):
Okay with Cape Britain. God doesn't chew your box of
body anyway.

Speaker 4 (14:40):
Welcome back. So Constantino's coming on the show. MAT's still
magiccking up a turd in the toilet watch the same
as completely. Is this really what people want to hear
in terms of content?

Speaker 5 (14:52):
I don't think it is. But here he comes. Now
he's got a team with them, Constantino, we should wave
a mon here he is welcome.

Speaker 4 (14:58):
Yeah, yes, I'd love to have you. We've already started
our podcast. It's already going.

Speaker 3 (15:12):
Yeah, it just goes.

Speaker 4 (15:13):
We're like this kind of organic things, you know.

Speaker 6 (15:15):
That's what I like because there's time to chat and
talk and it doesn't have to be so structured.

Speaker 4 (15:22):
I like it.

Speaker 6 (15:23):
So we're still, we're rolling while we're here.

Speaker 4 (15:25):
That's our vibe. That's our vibe. The only problem is
that Matt, who is also one of the hosts of
the show, he normally sits there Constantina invisible. Yeah, he's
not here now he's gone too. He's doing his own
sort of magic tricking the toilets at he's gone to
the bathroom. Yeah, he has gone to the bathroom. So
at one stage the he was going to do some

(15:48):
other kind of an illusion thing with what he was
doing in the bathroom. Here, thank goodness, he's going.

Speaker 6 (15:51):
And doing it in the bathroom, making something disappear.

Speaker 5 (15:53):
He is making something appear actually, and now it looks
like he's actually organized some kind of trick for you, Constantino,
because he's not here and fac that would have been
quite a smart thing to do, if we'd impressed you
with some magic, that would yea yeah, But we don't
know how to do that.

Speaker 4 (16:06):
You know how to do that, but we know so Welcome, Welcome,
Welcome to New Zealand. Nice to have you and thanks
for coming on the podcast.

Speaker 6 (16:12):
Thank you for having me.

Speaker 4 (16:14):
Mesh here used to do a bit.

Speaker 6 (16:16):
Of magic, did you you dabbled.

Speaker 5 (16:19):
We spent the first half of this podcast talking about
as a kid, I was really into doing strange things
and it lasted yesday about three or four months. It
was kind of about my time frame, and then got
really into magic for three or four months. But there's
a video out there of me. We can't we can't
find it. But I was teaching people how to do
card tricks and stuff. So I went through that phase.
I'm quite excited to meet you and how well we

(16:40):
I think I was about anywhere between the age of
nine and fourteen.

Speaker 6 (16:43):
Yeah, yeah, a lot of pre adolescent boys getting to magic.

Speaker 5 (16:47):
Okay, yourself got into it that day.

Speaker 6 (16:49):
Direct exactly that age twelve. Then you grow up and
you go on to do real things, and I just
didn't grow up.

Speaker 4 (16:57):
I'm still twelve. Really, you look a little mustache. You
look older than twelve. So what got you into it
in the first place? What was the a bit there's
a moment.

Speaker 6 (17:09):
Yes, I was a twelve year old boy who was
very shy, believe it or not, introverted, low self esteem.
I had a lot of learning difficulties. Didn't learn to
read until I was twelve. My mother was a school principal.
She took me to the local library, veryone listening kids
out there. The local libraries were to store books. It's
not a thing called Google, it's a physical Britannica is

(17:34):
very impressive a collection we have. I've mentioned it before.
I'm glad there we've tied it all all in because
I used to That's how I used to, you know,
used to go through the library and borrow the books
and read things and learn things. You couldn't just google it,
but you.

Speaker 5 (17:47):
Could trust it, Yes, you could trust it.

Speaker 6 (17:49):
The books you could trust. Yes, So we borrow a book.
My mother reads it to me because I can't read,
and I read these stories and adventures and escapades of
these great magicians, Hudini in particular, of course, and fascinated
because on his poster it said nothing on earth can
hold you in your prisoner. And as a twelve year
old I didn't quite understand what that meant. And my
mother said, well, you know, this guy could escape from anything.
She'd explain he could escape from jails, and people thought

(18:11):
that he melted and dear materialized through all the locks.
And I said, oh, he's a superhero. I was into
comic book superheroes. I would look at all the pictures
and she said yeah, but he wasn't made believe he
was a real guy. So the idea of a real
man being able to get out of anything, as his
byline said, nothing on earth can keep him a prisoner,
I thought, WHOA, that's crazy. We borrowed the book. She
reads these these tricks to me, and to learn a

(18:31):
magic trick, as you would know to Did you learn
through books?

Speaker 5 (18:34):
I'm so sorry. I feel like I'm really bringing down
the credibility.

Speaker 6 (18:39):
On YouTube.

Speaker 5 (18:39):
Yes I did. That's where I started. I was young
enough feel like you have that resource.

Speaker 3 (18:43):
We didn't.

Speaker 6 (18:43):
I didn't have YouTube. So you have to learn a
magic trick from a book. You really got to understand
what you read the description first, then the method, the secret,
and then you've got to break it down and says, oh,
take you and you know this now from YouTube. Take
your left a little pinky and put it here. Put
your right index, which ones my writing. That's my writing.
So analy the words. And through this process I learned
to eat. My mother was like Carla Lujah. And then

(19:07):
I realized it gave me a skill that was unique
and it allowed me to come out of my shell.
I didn't have to talk to people. I could just
perform a magic trick. So built up my confidence as
a little boy. That's why lots of boys get into
magic because it's about control and power. And the first
tricks I learned were like, you know, making money a peer.

(19:27):
I had doves that I made doves appear, which is
creating life, and so eating fire. There was all about
controlling the elements. I didn't know that. Later on, when
I wrote my autobiography, I had to analyze all of
this and understand why I was doing it and what
the attraction was. But it was having control because as
a kid, you know, you told went to wake up,
what to eat, to sleep, what to do, what to study.

(19:49):
The magic allowed me me to have control, and now
I could perform for an adult, and I was in control. Yes,
And so as a kid where the wild is seemingly problematic,
I hate control, okay, because.

Speaker 4 (20:02):
Is that why there's not as many female magicians as
male magicians?

Speaker 6 (20:06):
Power hungry? It's okay, it's the truth. There's actually a
lot of female magicians now because their art forms opened
up and it's become less about that. Even as an
adult now it's not about that anymore. It's about creating
a sense of astonishment and wonder at all these wonderful things.
But as a kid, it was completely about control. Okay,
at least having that control.

Speaker 4 (20:25):
Can I go back to why you didn't read till twelve?
How did that happen? If your mother was if your
mom was a principal?

Speaker 6 (20:34):
So I remember going to the optometrist and They're like,
you know, because I couldn't. They thought I couldn't see,
so they go read, you know, they read out the
letters and I couldn't read the letters. That to give
you glasses, I mean now any glasses, but I didn't
need them back then. I just couldn't read the letters.
So that was misdiagnosed. And then being dyslexic was misdiagnosed,
and and then there was something wrong with speech, and
then they thought was my hearing. So I went through.

(20:56):
So I went through all this process, and people were
trying to figure out what was happening, and but we
couldn't quite get to what There was nothing. And my
mother would say to people, I think my son's really intelligent,
and I just don't. He's just not connecting and we're
trying and he's not interested. So I was one of
those kids who would just because it was difficult to read,
I would I would refuse. It was a very challenging child.

(21:18):
And so my mother did her own little magic trick
and by me looking at because as I said, I
like comic books, by looking at that little poster, that
picture of Fei Dini, which by the way, look like
comic books, if you look at the old Vaudevillian magic posters,
which predate comic books, they look very much like comic books.
And that's what attracted me. So my mother realized that
and she she needed me to connect something which I

(21:40):
as a kid, I was refusing at the time. And
he just fall through the cracks. And I remember just,
you know, being at lunchtime, having to sit in the
class do extra classes, and the teachers would be like,
you have to read this, and I'd be like, Nona,
I don't want to do that.

Speaker 4 (21:52):
Man, was hard for you. It was very difficult, and
everyone else around you.

Speaker 6 (21:56):
And my father's a structural engineer, my mom's a prince, Like,
what's with our kid?

Speaker 5 (22:00):
Wow, well, Constantine, he's met by the way I met,
you've appeared.

Speaker 4 (22:04):
Yes, yes, he made something else appear too.

Speaker 6 (22:07):
Yeah, well we heard about Yeah.

Speaker 4 (22:10):
We're just talking about Constantino. Did you know Constantina learned
to read at twelve? Wow? Yeah, we were just talking
about We were just talking about that.

Speaker 6 (22:18):
Through a magic book. We talked about learning magic.

Speaker 4 (22:21):
Okay, and about magic being about power.

Speaker 6 (22:24):
In the beginning, ye, about controlling the elements and as
a little kid, and because we're talking about being what
twelve years fourteen learning magic? That's where most so you
boys learned.

Speaker 2 (22:34):
So I don't want to tread over material you've already
been on. But was it because that was the first
time you were excited by something that you that you
jumped onto reading Magic. That for a hugely unprofessional visit
to the bathroom.

Speaker 6 (22:52):
So you guys, see, that's exactly what happened, right, Okay,
I refused as a kid to just you know, things
got difficult and I was like, no, I don't want
to do it, and it became challenge.

Speaker 2 (23:00):
And that was how quickly did you learn to read
once you were excited about reading it straight away? They
actually say that about kids that you know, we force
them to read when they're not interested in it, and
then and then when they are, they can learn it
very very quickly.

Speaker 6 (23:12):
And that's exactly what happened. Yeah, and it was it
literally took a little poster of hitting in this book
and straight away so that you go, you can see
that it's quite a common common thing.

Speaker 3 (23:21):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (23:22):
Well, what will be interesting is that as a result
of you having quite a different way developing in terms
of your brain from five to twelve, I imagine that
will have quite an effect on how you are now
and will be very handy for how you think about
things now, because I imagine that your brain works in
quite a different way than other people's brains. I think so.

Speaker 6 (23:43):
I think my manager would say that too you so
it probably thinks.

Speaker 4 (23:46):
Well, we want that, though you don't want that.

Speaker 6 (23:48):
I don't know if that's quite right the way you've
analyzed that situation. I'm like, no, I'm pretty sure that's right.

Speaker 2 (23:54):
How much of your life do you spend thinking about magic?
Like when you look around you go, well, this could
be something, that could be something, this could be something.

Speaker 4 (24:00):
Non stop, NonStop.

Speaker 6 (24:02):
No, it's still an obsession. Yeah, I love it that much.

Speaker 5 (24:06):
Yeah, So what keeps you going today, Constantino? Is that?
Is that? Is it the reaction that you get now
you know, or is it something the idea about just
providing entertainment it is something that you enjoy, or is
it the challenge of coming up with new things?

Speaker 3 (24:18):
All of you.

Speaker 6 (24:18):
Above check really going? Yeah, I know I will never
cleared it up because people know it's it's honestly, I
get such a thrill out of seeing people's faces. I
actually am very very blessed to do. As a kid,
I dreamt about having my own TV shows and performing magic,

(24:39):
and then I know how privileged I am to be
able to make a living off off off a hobby
which become a passion. That's pretty rare, Yeah, it is.
I mean, I know, we see actors and singers and
you guys probably interview a lot of people, but really
when you go outside into the broader world, it's a
pretty narrow and even magic is even more narrow. So
I realized how blessed I am. That's super ripper rare.

Speaker 4 (25:01):
Yeah, and I.

Speaker 6 (25:02):
Get to live out my some degree, my fantasy.

Speaker 4 (25:06):
Yeah. Can I ask you a question because I imagine
when you get to your level of professionalism, your level
of where you are inside of the realm of illusionism.
Illusionism is that even a word and magic, you're obviously
not copying anything else. You're not reading about other things.

(25:27):
You have to create your own things. That's at another
level of things like that. That's I find that fascinating.
How much time do you spend and when do you
think about those things? You sit down and create those
things sitting at a desk. Do you do it when
you're wandering around? Does it come to you randomly random.

Speaker 6 (25:48):
Okay, So I've got a year to write a new show,
and it's challenging. I mean, you can build off old impossibilities.
So for example, let's say you wanted to saw Somebody
in your helf. Okay, it's been done since nineteen twenty one.
On how do we how do you make it better?
How do you make it more baffling? How do you
bring out up to date? That's an example. So you
could take a classic and go, I'm going to make
it modern, up to date. Then you've got to think

(26:12):
about Then there's certain techniques in card root like piano,
there's certain techniques that you learn, and then there's a
whole other level of kind of showmanship and acting and presentation,
layer it on top. And so once you know all
these different things, you can start maybe pulling different ideas together,

(26:32):
different methods together to create something new. Nothing's really one
hundred percent new, nothing's new, really postmodern ism. Okay, I'm
really honest with you. It's interesting, really new. No, no,
but the but the presentation and the way your approach
to it is new. Your interpretation is new. The seven
fundamentals in magic, something appears, disappears, levitates sold through solid

(26:55):
to seven. That's it only work within those those these limitations.

Speaker 2 (27:00):
And so when you've got a new one that you know,
or a new adaptation of what you're doing, then that
first time taking it to an audience must be it
must be hugely exciting to see whether it's going to
work as you hope the word.

Speaker 6 (27:11):
It's like it's like a comedian doing a joke for
the first time and you're going, I'm doing in front
of a live audience is going to hit and how
hard will it hit? And so you did a trick
for the first time and you kind of go okay,
yeah that's good or it wasn't. And then we do
what comedians do. We tweak, We tweak, we tweak, we
change it. We move a word from the end to
the start. And when I mean move a word, like

(27:32):
literally the way you change the way you present your work,
which is why it's different when you got to do
Jumper around here a bit. But it's why when you've
got to different countries. We just were in Singapore doing
the show, things change a lot because of the way
they interpret the language as well. Right, So but yeah,
I'll be adjusting words. I'll be adjusting movements in the
presentation to try and get the most out of it,
and it honestly takes it takes three months to design

(27:55):
each illusion, and it takes over a year really to
get it who it's good enough, and you don't really
have that luxury when you're doing a new show. I'm
blessed in this show that we're touring is the best
of I've got the best bits of the material, so
it's really polished and refined. So in the back of
my mind it's daunting to come up with new tricks
and think.

Speaker 5 (28:15):
Okay, now the next tour is going to be oh gosh.

Speaker 6 (28:17):
All new and does any of it work? And I
could fall back on doing things that are no hit
but in a different variation, but I don't really want
to do that because I will grow. Yes, So now
I'm putting myself out there and I'm exposing myself to fail.
I should have got and be My next tool will
be a lot of stuff that I've never done before,
and I don't know if it's going to work. Wow,

(28:38):
it's daunting and exciting and exciting.

Speaker 4 (28:41):
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, Although I beat you know, deep
down somewhere, and your heart that it won't fail, because
that would be an interesting idea. Imagine if you had,
say you went and you toured something and then something failed,
something failed, something failed. In a show, you must not
you must know what's going to work deep down.

Speaker 6 (28:59):
I know to an extent what I think the audience
will respond to, but I don't know. So I'm telling
a joke. So let's say a joke is a good
way to understand. So you know that the punchlines are
pretty funny. You think it's funny, right, okay, but the execution.

Speaker 2 (29:17):
Might not be.

Speaker 6 (29:18):
Yeah, like, the the way you're going to tell to
get to the punchline might as you as you keep
doing the material, you'll probably make it funnier or adding
another little section that kind of builds to it. Even
though you know the punchlines are really funny, but it
can be funnier and tighter and neater. That's where the
problem is. And so to some degree, if the magic
trick is really streamlined, then it becomes more potent. So

(29:42):
at first it's a bit clumsy. I'm clunk clunky.

Speaker 4 (29:45):
Yeah, you've got to.

Speaker 6 (29:47):
Get through all that. It's really really hard. It's because
you know, you can be better because you're going out
the craft it is, that's the craft. But you're going
out there and you're like, oh, it's not my best yet.
You do feel a little bit of that.

Speaker 2 (29:57):
But how often do your co performance let you down?

Speaker 4 (30:00):
That's a good question, that's a great question.

Speaker 2 (30:04):
You can be very passionate and you can be you know,
it can be your craft.

Speaker 6 (30:07):
It's a very clever podcast.

Speaker 4 (30:09):
How do you deal with how do you deal in
a modern and a modern employment environment? How do you
deal with poor performance people who are working with you?

Speaker 2 (30:20):
Do you hanging out there?

Speaker 4 (30:21):
Yeah? Do you give a do you give them a
review after the show? And so you know what you
need to pack up your game? It happens right, Well,
it can be let down.

Speaker 6 (30:28):
Yeah, we say, I say my team, and without trying
to oversell it is like an F one team. Every
I say in my show that you've got to think
that I've got to thank the entire casting career and
the audience should because every single one of them must
be in perfect time and perfect sync or the magic
doesn't happen. Yeah, and that can it can all just

(30:49):
go pair shape very very quickly. So it is like
an F one team where everyone's got to know exactly
what they're doing, and we train and we rehearse, and
we polish and we polish and we polish so that
it's perfect. Things go wrong, Yeah, it's life.

Speaker 2 (31:02):
Well, I mean, if it's like a band, you'll have
like a drummer that goes out drinking all day and yeah,
up and off is off.

Speaker 6 (31:07):
Yeah, yeah, it happens in terms of your go out
and drink a lot.

Speaker 4 (31:12):
We've been talking a little bit recently actually in terms
of casting, and we've been talking about something for the mum,
something for the dads. And for the longest time with magic,
there was you had a male magician and then often
oftentimes handsome, good looking, and then you ran something for
the dads and there was someone, oftentimes a beautiful looking

(31:35):
woman that would be doing some kind of thing. How
do you go with that type of casting, Because we've
been talking about this, we've got to prove of a
problem on the show. But we've got a lot for that,
We've got a lot for the mums, but we've just
gotten nothing for the dads on the show. And we've
sometimes thought about bringing something in.

Speaker 2 (31:50):
For the dads.

Speaker 4 (31:51):
Well, maybe you bar for the dads well some dads,
but perhaps some dads, but probably not you know, the
majority of dads.

Speaker 6 (31:59):
You know, we have a family show, and we walk
a very fine line. It would be a lot easier
to write a kid show. No no, no, sorry, let
me rephrase. I don't want to insult people. What I
mean is, I'm not saying it's easier. It would just
be easy to stick to one like to say, this
is a kid show. This is an adult show. So
that's what I mean. So I got to be clear.
I don't want to insult people, so we don't do that.

(32:20):
We have to do what you're talking about. I have
to say, okay, so this is going to be for
the mums, this is for the dads, this is for
the teenagers. That's really hard, but we walk a fine
line where the show it pushes it a little bit.

Speaker 4 (32:31):
You know.

Speaker 6 (32:31):
The escapes are pretty dangerous and they you see kids
covering their eyes, but that's okay. I think that's okay
for a kid to do that. I don't think that's
a problem. It's sexy in parts, which is great. You know,
I want to see something sexy, romantic, dramatic, funny. So
we have to weave all those together, and I always
try to explain it like a great film that it's got,

(32:52):
you know, the drama, it's got the action, then it
slows down and it's got the romance. So that's how
I try and write the show.

Speaker 4 (33:00):
That's high level.

Speaker 6 (33:01):
It's not easy.

Speaker 4 (33:02):
That's coming to it from a very high level position.

Speaker 2 (33:05):
I guess that's where you're successful.

Speaker 5 (33:07):
Yes, I can ask you about things. So I first
saw your stuff when you did that. You did a
heard any anniverstary?

Speaker 6 (33:14):
Yeah, twenty twenty ten?

Speaker 5 (33:16):
Oh was it then? So I saw that on social media.
I remember seeing that.

Speaker 6 (33:19):
But I was in the Melbourne Aquarium. So Houdini came
to Australia in nineteen ten. Yes, Harry Hidini, the man
I read about who got Me into magic? And he
jumped off the Queen's Breach in Melbourne into the Era okay,
into our river. So one hundred years later to the
exact day, exact same time, blah, blah blah. I was
in the Melbourne Aquarium, five meters deep, sixty kilos of
concrete on my feet, under there for almost four minutes,

(33:41):
picking all locks, live TV, stupid, doing it all life
and yeah, escaped.

Speaker 5 (33:47):
What intrigues me about that though? Is that picking locks
and this is something that you've done a lot of
if you did it on Australia's got talent is not
an illusion, is it? No? So talk me through that.

Speaker 2 (33:59):
So what's your.

Speaker 5 (34:00):
Interest in something like lockpicking? Because it's not when you
watch that, people like you know, three pleibs like us
don't don't look at that and go how does he
do it? We look at it that well, it's impressively
pecking lock So where's the line for you? Like, is
that something you're just as interested in as magic?

Speaker 3 (34:14):
Is?

Speaker 5 (34:14):
Like just something that it's hard to do well.

Speaker 6 (34:16):
It's funny because when I first started doing the escapes,
I had a mentor who said to me, I used
to do a water take escape. Yeah, and I would
be in a glass tankle I would be in a
drum of water and I'd be behind that curtain like Cudini.
Because he mentored me and that's how you would do it.
And I said to him, I said, I was going
to give his real I've got a lot of book

(34:37):
and he didn't want to be named or checked in
the book. It's really funny. He's very introverted guy. Anyway,
So I was about to name check him, realized before
recording mister Smith anyway, I said, why am I doing
it behind the curtain. I'm spending all this time holding
my breath and the curtain would go up and then
you'd see like my hands and you'd see me picking
the lock of the curtain would dump. And why am
I doing this? If the audience thinks it's because what

(34:58):
would happen is the feedback would bebviously not holding his
breath because he's behind the curtain. I'm like, no, I'm
actually really holding my breath. So this kept plaguing on
my mind. And then when I did Austraya's Got Talent
back in twenty eleven, I did the water tak, I said, nah,
forget the drum, I'm going to do it in a
clear tank without a cloth, now without big noting that
was the first time, first time on a straying TV,

(35:19):
first time even international TV, that someone had really done
an underwater escape in full view. Now it's common practice,
but what is it like twelve years ago that wasn't
really common. But I thought, in my mind, if I'm
going to spend all this time really picking the locks
and holding my breath. I want to do it like
a demonstration, like someone walks on a typrope. Okay, so
my think and with my mentor we had massive arguments

(35:42):
about it, right, Okay. He was like, no, there should
be a mystery about it.

Speaker 3 (35:45):
You should.

Speaker 6 (35:46):
It should be kind of like did you pick the locks,
did you demterialize through the locks, did you whatever?

Speaker 3 (35:51):
Whatever?

Speaker 6 (35:52):
People think? He said that should be the mystery, and
I said, well, no, I actually think I should show
the skill. So that's I chose that path against his thinking,
and it's now become like a bit more common practice.
I just thought you present it like a circus stunt, right,
That's how It's lot of story to get there, buttory,

(36:12):
that's why. But I got fascinated body escapes because of Herdini.

Speaker 5 (36:16):
Yeah, okay, and look they go.

Speaker 6 (36:18):
This is where magic struggles a little bit. The escapes
are real. I'm really holding my breath, I'm really picking
the locks. They're real knives. I've really ruptured my ear drum,
I've really broken ribs, I've really done all that. I've
got real insurance.

Speaker 4 (36:32):
Yeah right, YEA.

Speaker 6 (36:34):
One thing I'd love to say to my insurance company
is because people do say, oh, the escapes aren't real,
the knives aren't real. You know what, the great coming,
tell them tell I'm so happy. I'm more than happy
for it to be fake. Truly, I'm so happy were
all the premiums. Honestly, that's how happy i'd be. Unfortunately

(36:56):
for me, it's.

Speaker 4 (36:57):
Rare, Yeah, because the escap apes is a different thing.
That's and that's that's the audience feeling anxiety, isn't it.

Speaker 6 (37:04):
And then relationship correct, Yeah, that's attention really and so
magic I was going to say, Walks this really interesting
line where you do an escape, you do a magic
trick and it's fake. It's it's it's it's it's it's
sleight of hand, it's it's, it is, it's optical, whatever
it might be. And then you do an escape and
you go, oh, but this is real, and the audience goes, well,
hang o, I don't know accusing it's I'm well aware
of that, but I have to kind of draw a

(37:25):
line in the sand, like you never see me do
an escape where it's like I don't know, I'm putting
a box and I'm pretending to escape, and then I
disappear and reappear like I'll do those effects, but I
won't do it as an escape. I won't blur those lines.
This is an escape. This is an illusion.

Speaker 2 (37:40):
When when's the best place with escape and the show
and a.

Speaker 6 (37:44):
I always do to escape at the very end, so
the audience has got time to know who I am
and care. Imagine you open the show and the audience
because I don't know who this guy is, don't care.
You could get stabbed by knife.

Speaker 2 (37:55):
Oh wow, thank you so much for coming in.

Speaker 4 (37:57):
We're getting there, so we have.

Speaker 2 (37:59):
But we could talk.

Speaker 4 (38:00):
We could talk for days.

Speaker 2 (38:02):
So you're at the Isaac Royal in christ Church on
the twenty fourth. Two shows there, the Regent Theater in
my hometown of Dunedin, Saint James Theatre and Wellington on
the twenty ninth and thirtieth, Maddee and evening show on
the thirtieth. You're in New Plymouth on the fourth of December,
Bruce Mainson on the sixth and seventh, and here in Auckland.

(38:22):
So I go along. I'm very excited.

Speaker 4 (38:24):
About and I think timing it quite well. I think
when people need a little bit of escapism, they need
a little bit of entertainment, and what a great time
to do it. Thank you, so thanks very much for
coming O, thank you for having me. Nice mate, appreciate it.

Speaker 5 (38:36):
Thank you less okay, fellas, we're back.

Speaker 4 (38:45):
Oh how nice was Constantina. I thank goodness you didn't
call him Constantina, although you didn't say his name, so
that was a good way to get out of it.

Speaker 2 (38:52):
I did when I read through the wounders for his dates,
and look, can I just say what a great man
he was? And I like this new thing? Where were
doing it?

Speaker 5 (39:00):
View?

Speaker 2 (39:00):
Were pre interview, then we meet the person, they're fantastic,
and we do a post and I hope you guys
were professional while I was incapacitated.

Speaker 4 (39:07):
Oh my god, there was so unprofessional of you. So
you weren't even there for the intro. There we were,
We did the heavy lifting, I you did the ie,
then you went off and talking shit. And while you
were off taking a ship, Constantino turned up. And then
it was a lovely guy, great guy, such a great guy.

(39:29):
Proof as often as the case that the really big
stars are all really really nice people as well, and
so professional.

Speaker 2 (39:37):
Yeah, so professional obviously loves his craft. Now question for you, Jeremy,
and I didn't see it when I was here, and
so I'm just hoping Mashi, for your sake, who had
to be here sitting in the filth that is doing
an interview with Jeremy Wells. Yeah, you didn't ask the
question about the downstairs.

Speaker 5 (39:55):
No, because I don't think.

Speaker 4 (39:56):
I don't fun. I don't think Constantina was interested in
magic ing has been this into a woman's vagina.

Speaker 2 (40:01):
I don't think he would have to. I don't think
I think they'd be I think people will be lining.

Speaker 4 (40:04):
Up, Yes, I think they would be very a very
good looking man.

Speaker 2 (40:09):
Yeah, good looking man.

Speaker 4 (40:10):
Beautiful looking man, very handsome, very handsome. Great.

Speaker 2 (40:14):
Something for the mums, yes, a little There was a
little something for the mums, I think.

Speaker 4 (40:17):
For the mums and something for the something for the dads,
as he pointed out, Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 5 (40:21):
I think that's what he was trying to point out there,
is that he's almost a little bit more interested in
what the dad's were you.

Speaker 2 (40:26):
Saying, Did I hear you say to Constantino, Did I
hear you say that the show's only got something for
the dads and nothing for the mums.

Speaker 4 (40:34):
No, I said that there was something for the mums
and there was nothing for the deaths from Why something
for the mumps? I mean, I guess at a stretch,
you know, I mean I suppose we yep, sure, something
for the mup. Something for the mumps. Yeah, a little
something something for the mumps. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (40:49):
Can I just say that I'm not stoked with this
format of where we get to the end of a show,
yeah we're tired, Yeah, and we think, oh, I've got
a podcast to do today. We find out we've got
a guest. We then go on for ten minutes slag
the guest of talk about these inappropriate questions we're going
to ask of them, and then they come into studio,
are the nicest people we've ever met, and then we
come out the stars. We love them, and we come

(41:10):
out the ass of them, and then we just we
just he're sexualizing them for the next we don't we
don't need to reflect on this.

Speaker 2 (41:18):
I love to hear from people on the the Conclave,
the Matt and Jerry, you know discussion group on Facebook
whether they like this new format where we come in
and we complain about an interview before it starts, and
then we absolutely love it, and then afterwards we blow smoke.

Speaker 4 (41:35):
Right, we come out the ass of the interview.

Speaker 2 (41:38):
We we jump out of we come out of the
ass of the interview, then we blow smoke up the ass.

Speaker 4 (41:42):
Yes, I mean, it's all well and good until one day.

Speaker 2 (41:44):
It seems cowardly though, because you've got people like Jeremy Wales,
who talks a big game in the pre show, a
huge game about what the kind of things he's going
to say. He puts out DearS, he DearS people on
the show, or Massy to say something.

Speaker 5 (41:57):
I'm sound quite angry thinking about this jury. If you're
going to say, if you're going to tease to the
people of this podcast that you're going to ask him Constantino, have.

Speaker 2 (42:05):
You ever mentioned your vagina into a woman? I mean,
you're penis into a vagina.

Speaker 5 (42:10):
Well, then you got to ask these questions because people
are hanging out for that.

Speaker 4 (42:12):
We talked to Constantino about your bowel movements. It is
quite did it? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (42:16):
What did he say?

Speaker 4 (42:17):
Was he press disgusted?

Speaker 2 (42:19):
Did you see? He says?

Speaker 4 (42:20):
The first time I've ever been in an interview where
one of the hosts has done a ship. Okay, okay,
was off doing a ship while I'm starting the interview.

Speaker 2 (42:27):
We don't know it was a ship.

Speaker 5 (42:28):
Well I think it was a ship.

Speaker 4 (42:29):
Clear about ten minutes by the way.

Speaker 2 (42:32):
Yeah, I was got on my phone, got on instag
and I got fucking distracted.

Speaker 5 (42:35):
You got to stop doing that, man, I was researching
for the interview.

Speaker 3 (42:38):
No, you were.

Speaker 5 (42:39):
I pulled some ship out of my ass and I
fell on Wikipedia about something. I asked a questions. I
asked a question and Constantino, what did he say? He said, well,
this is a smart show. That was a he said,
that was a that was he did.

Speaker 2 (42:51):
Okay, that was a smart question. And that's because I
am a professional. I did the research in Gate three, while.

Speaker 4 (42:57):
You guys are not a professional. Guys, well, you're too sure.
At the start of the interview, okay, that's the first
time anyone's ever done that. He said that, it's the
first time you ever.

Speaker 2 (43:05):
I'll go back and listen to the tapes. If he
didn't say that, then then he was discussing lying and
I was disgusted. Can I say, bloody shook my hand?

Speaker 4 (43:12):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (43:13):
Did you wash your hand? Did you wash your hands?

Speaker 2 (43:15):
You didn't do I was I'm a professional. I was
on a huge harry to get back here. I had
no time to wash.

Speaker 4 (43:19):
My hand yuck. He's got to he's got to go
away now and perform a whole lot of shows. He's
got your fecal matter on as.

Speaker 2 (43:26):
We well, we don't know if he shook my hand,
but it could have been a sleight of hand. He
could have he could have not sho shook my hand.
And that's true.

Speaker 4 (43:33):
Do you see he was wearing the sleeves. He was
wearing those magicians. He had a magician jacket with the sleeves.
A wizard's sleeve. No, not quite a wizard slither, more
just a sleep that had enough words that you could
put a card up there. Did you notice that I
tell you, I tell you sorry.

Speaker 5 (43:49):
I was going to say it's because surely every fucking
wounder and the dog just say, all right, mate, show
us a magic trick and then he's got to sit
there with this. We didn't and we didn't do that.
So he probably came in prepped up with it jacket.
I thought that's not.

Speaker 4 (44:02):
Going to work on the road.

Speaker 2 (44:03):
Probably had a bloody he probably had a bloody. Yeah,
pigeon up there as freckle. He probably had a pigeon
up as freckle.

Speaker 5 (44:09):
He is known for those twos. We should have pulling
animals out of his We should.

Speaker 4 (44:12):
Have patted him down, see what he had in it.
And then why you've got a bloody pigeon in this pocket,
You've got a wounder in this You.

Speaker 2 (44:20):
Know we should have fucking done. I wonder we should have.
We should have dug a bloody trap door going into
some water. Well, he walks in, falls through the trap door,
We see a lemon in and we say, fucking mate,
get out before you drought.

Speaker 4 (44:32):
And then he has to escape.

Speaker 5 (44:33):
Yeah, what would he do? Then?

Speaker 4 (44:35):
Here the sky he'd escape.

Speaker 2 (44:37):
Actually, I don't think anyone would convict you from doing
that because you thought he was a musician.

Speaker 4 (44:41):
I got nervous when you just talked about that idea
of being locked with locks the concrete underwater. I actually
my heart started racing. I was like, I don't like
watching that sort of stuff.

Speaker 5 (44:50):
It's quite good.

Speaker 4 (44:51):
I find it anxiety scary.

Speaker 2 (44:52):
I remember that now on Australia's Got Talent.

Speaker 5 (44:55):
One more initiative I'd like to introduce to this kind
of post interview situation that we do here. I was
thinking maybe we could also just give the PR team
out of ten for the guest that comes in giving
it a solid eight alf today.

Speaker 4 (45:10):
Yeah, good work. Okay, they seem to do a good job.

Speaker 5 (45:12):
Is it just in terms of performance?

Speaker 4 (45:14):
Well, other people that came in they didn't even they
didn't even come in the room, So I'm not sure
what you were judging them.

Speaker 2 (45:18):
We had quite the entourage. Oh, I see what you're saying. Yeah,
I was sevenly something for the dads out there. No,
I hang on, No, I just wanted to say that
I'd like to rate. You're saying there was something for
the dads out there.

Speaker 5 (45:27):
No, I wasn't saying that you were saying. But anyway,
that's a new initiative. So every year, every time we
have an interview. Now, if we could just rate the
PR team for just a moment afterwards as well, I
feel like that's a good thing to.

Speaker 4 (45:36):
What if routers just organized it there were the stum
up as, wouldn't have Well there's just a.

Speaker 5 (45:40):
Two, isn't it. This is about a two out of
ten every week?

Speaker 8 (45:43):
All right?

Speaker 2 (45:44):
I want to get your feedback with you like you
interview technique where we do a pre interview where we
say a bunch of cowardly stuff in a a during
interview where we are very nice, and then a post interview,
we're very nice.

Speaker 5 (45:57):
We realize how nice these people are. Yeah, all rkay okay,
then go on magic.

Speaker 2 (46:02):
Then it's time for us to disappear.

Speaker 5 (46:06):
Do you know when we got in he actually genuinely thought,
I think that we might have been doing some kind
of gag with you not being here. I think he
thought like there was some kind of magical gig about it.
Usually there's a third host, but he's not here.

Speaker 2 (46:17):
And then I was going to jump out of out
of meshes us. Fuck were you that was my plane?
I felt like I might have felt that. Yeah, I
was sitting in the bathroom trying to rustle that up.
Nothing happened anyway, Time for us to disappear.

Speaker 1 (46:36):
Rain is a gone burger, but the showers and the
and a bit

Speaker 3 (46:39):
Of frost while they're sort of come burgers.