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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello you great New Zealanders. Matt Heath here. This is
my last week on this podcast sadly, but if you're
not sick of me and you want more of my
weekly content, you can follow my weekly Substack mailout article
at Matdheath dot substack dot com. This week I discussed
fighting fomo after my friends betrayed me and went to
Germany without me. You, Jerry, g Lane, Joseph and Meniah,

(00:23):
I love you, but you hurt me. Anyway. You seem busy,
I'll let you go to Matteath dot substack dot com. Bless, bless, bless.

Speaker 2 (00:45):
Liv's good busy.

Speaker 1 (01:00):
It's the first of October, in the Year of Our Lord,
twenty twenty four. Welcome all you bespokey dokies to the
third to last daily bespoke Podcasts with Matt and Jerry.
And we've got a special guest along too. Help us
through the die, Henwritt. What an intro.

Speaker 3 (01:20):
Yeah, that was phenomenal. I started thinking it was a
full fade out.

Speaker 1 (01:25):
I started thinking about my Vaye haalfway through, I got
to that point I'm stoked to be here.

Speaker 3 (01:31):
Third to last is a good one. It's a low
pressure one because you know, last one. You feel it
should be good and it can never be as good
as I wanted to be. So even the intro was
inaccurate as well as as well as this kind of
professionalism that led Zibe to shout attap me to move
up to the to the big leags talking all.

Speaker 1 (01:53):
The time exactly.

Speaker 3 (01:55):
See, you'd just be a decision baiting the hook and
throwing it out there like that and seeing what comes.

Speaker 1 (02:00):
Yeah, I be like, it's I don't know what dat is?

Speaker 3 (02:04):
Vape focused. Since I've been here, I noticed.

Speaker 1 (02:06):
Yeah, I read this article on nicotine and how good
it is for you, and then and then I decided
to try and take as much nicotine as I can.
So I got on the I got on the nicotine
gum and on the vape. I think I've gone too
far now because I'm completely addicted to my vape.

Speaker 4 (02:22):
The good thing is when you come off the vape,
you read another article, which is that vaping those terrible
things for your lungs. You're I'm not going to be
here to watch it, which is gonna be great. I'm
not gonna I'm not It's not going to be me.
I'm going to be nowhere near watching you come down
with some horrific withdrawals to.

Speaker 1 (02:40):
The point where this is how much I've been thinking
about vaping. Is that to the point I had to
chat with my new co host on ZB and I said,
what are your views on vaping in the studio and
he said, I'm into it. So you know, we're going
to be vaping all over my crossing studio. It'll be good.

Speaker 3 (02:54):
See at the moment you're rocking quite a little slim
line stylash one. Yeah, you're going to be going the
full battery back up with a big thick PVC pipe
with it coming in with like a briefcase open.

Speaker 1 (03:08):
It was got all the chemicals putting it together, trundle
on a trailer, trying create an entire personality around vape.

Speaker 3 (03:17):
There's a lot of people who create their personality around
a vape.

Speaker 1 (03:20):
Yeah. Yeah, Well. The thing's about vaping though, is in
like it's not cool because you do it on a
weird angle down like this.

Speaker 3 (03:30):
The reason we have a vape in there, but like
you know, it looks like a smoky pan flute.

Speaker 1 (03:34):
Yeah, like it's a douche flute, but like a cigarette
out the side of your mouth. That's it looks cool
to them. You gome backhand of vape, can you really?

Speaker 3 (03:42):
I was actually I was behind a dude at the
dairy yesterday. I was buying sigis and I've been off
the sigis for about fifteen years and I hadn't realized
how expensive they were.

Speaker 1 (03:55):
It's insane.

Speaker 3 (03:56):
It was like fifty bucks. And then he bought a
pouch as well. It was one hundred two dollars for
a pouch of Paul Royal.

Speaker 1 (04:03):
I found out that there's the black market cigarettes everywhere
and they're really easy to get. And fact, there's some
member of the government that was saying this, you know,
saying that the black market cigarettes everywhere, and then a
one news reporter going tell me where, tell me where,
and she goes, well, they're everywhere. They said, tell me where,
and I was like, it does sound like bullshit. The
black market cigarettes would be everywhere. And then I was

(04:23):
talking to my friend Smokey Joe, and Smoky Joe was like,
you can just get them anywhere. You can get like cartons.
He goes down in my store. He lives in Wistorkland.
He just goes and they don't even night the sky
I'll have a cut, I'll have a garten of of
you holidays.

Speaker 4 (04:41):
So they come in judy free, or they coming from
countries where you can buy cartons like I see over
in Dubai a carton of mob Or reds was sixty bucks.
That's pretty good, so six bucks six bucks a pack. Yeah,
So you buy them in countries third boor countries, and
then you bring them back somehow you smuggle them on.

Speaker 3 (04:59):
Mainly whose lives pretty close to you. Their neighbor had
a whole tobacco farm in the backyard, and their dog
got out and went in there and ate. Some of
them got horrendously sick. They were making their own ciggies.

Speaker 1 (05:12):
That's a lot different.

Speaker 3 (05:13):
And Sandra, well, what's wrong with making your own signy?

Speaker 1 (05:16):
I don't think that's illegal. I think when you sell
it to this they did.

Speaker 3 (05:20):
Smokey Joe give you this interesting nicotine information.

Speaker 1 (05:27):
If you don't get the name of Smoky Joe, if
you don't know about smoking, I want to.

Speaker 4 (05:31):
Know how addicted, like how addicted to nicotine can you get?
Because I'm try to reckon with a vape, It's possible
to get to a level of nicotine addiction that you
could never get with a CIGGI.

Speaker 3 (05:42):
Because you'd get physically sick from just the smoking.

Speaker 1 (05:46):
Yeah. Yeah, that's the problem with vaping is you can
do it anywhere, anytime, but it's very easy. There's no lighting,
there's no there's no admin, it's just ready to go.

Speaker 4 (05:55):
It's yeah, because it's interesting to watch you, because you
and Meshi on the vape apes, and it's been interesting
to watch the different approaches to vaping. You met have
gone an absolutely full noise, like you are not holding
back at all.

Speaker 1 (06:09):
You were.

Speaker 4 (06:10):
I mean the other day when we're out at a restaurant,
your lovely partner was essentially holding your vape for you,
and she would allow you one vape maybe per half hour,
and you were just you were.

Speaker 1 (06:20):
You were like a you were like a three.

Speaker 4 (06:23):
Month old pouring at its mother's breast for another another
little sweet suck of that of that vape me while
mass over here more controlled. Interestingly, he takes the more
controlled bridge, but he's fighting with it the whole time.
But he's not too long though, but he's prepared to
he's prepared to fight his You're not at all, You're
letting the whole thing in the door.

Speaker 1 (06:42):
Look, I'm ting an experiment after because there's there's actually
a lot of really strong evidence that nicotine is a
it's good for brain function. And actually the problem with nicotine,
the problem with smoking wasn't the nicotine. The problem with
smoking was the delivery method of the nicotine. So idea,
if you want to take nicotine, you don't vape it.
You get you get the gummies or you get the gum.

Speaker 5 (07:04):
Well, that's right, because I mean, like this vape here
is two percent nicotine. So the liquid in this is
something else and that goes wa straight into the lungs,
doesn't it.

Speaker 1 (07:13):
And I would go out on a limb here and
say that breathing oxygen it's probably whatever. Like there's no
evidence that the vaping is bad for you yet, but
they haven't had long enough to test it. But I'm
I'm predicting that it will come back. That's sucking in
that ship is not as good for you as as
breathing an ear.

Speaker 3 (07:30):
Yeah, but you've got your article right. Nicodine is good
for you. There's articles out there that like isis is
really good and their way of running the world is
potentially the best Cuba arguably, Huberman Yeah, it's Huberman. Well
isis is good?

Speaker 1 (07:47):
Yeah, I haven't seen that neuroscientist Andrew Huberman from The
Human podcast. Yes, we went out for lunch the other
day with Andrew Hueman. No, but funny you should say
that we might as well have Jerry. What's going on
in your household?

Speaker 6 (08:05):
Mate?

Speaker 5 (08:05):
Your lovely partner. Tulci is right in the back pocket
of Andrew Herberman. She's she loves a bit of the hoops.
He's jacked as well. She remember his top off when
hes around.

Speaker 7 (08:15):
Yeah, she's she is all up on Huberman.

Speaker 1 (08:20):
Did she buy into when they tried to cancel him?
The I think was the news he had a few
daily It.

Speaker 5 (08:27):
Was running quite a high level roster.

Speaker 1 (08:29):
It was funny because they tried to cancel him, but
all he was doing was having multiple girlfriends then breaking
up with them. So the level of canceling him was that,
I guess he's all about mental health and he's all
about you know, positivity and stuff. But then he was
absolutely laying a track through nicest level body. Yeah, yeah,
he was up there then. And I read when it

(08:52):
came out, and I read through and goes, this sounds
like a guy that's single and hot and a neuroscientist
and quite wealthy. He sprang around, spraying around, ye and
then and then I couldn't go to the there was
no the next bit, and it was such it was
such an odd thing. But then when you read the
comments under things ago, I knew he was a dirty basket.
What a piece of shit. It's like, are you You're

(09:13):
still allowed to spray it around if you're single, as
long as you're honest, I guess yeah.

Speaker 2 (09:17):
See.

Speaker 3 (09:17):
The the other thing though, is I I brought into
this theory that he he said about how you're not
meant to drink caffeine within ninety minutes of waking.

Speaker 1 (09:26):
I was trying to punish you with it.

Speaker 3 (09:28):
So then I watched a video of scientists actually as
completely rubbish and where he got his information from is
he conflated it. There was there's never been a study
on that, and it actually turned out if you had
caffeine closer to waking up, you were more alert in
the afternoon. So something you know, Yeah, well there's a

(09:48):
thing of interesting things out there, but it's not goss.

Speaker 1 (09:50):
It always says the data says, the data says. But
the thing is with that is You've got to look
at the quality of a study because sometimes people say
a study, a study says this, and you look into
it and it's ten. There were ten people for one
two weeks. And they're always Harvard University students that are
trying to get an extra you know, you know, fifty

(10:11):
bucks were turning out to the study. There's a lot.
You know, there's sunny I mean in the history of
the world obviously, but that's what sciences. It's right, It's
like people throw things out. They do study, someone does
another study, and it's always it's always flowing. It's changing
this movie, which is hard for people to understand because
they're like, well, scientists used to say this and then
they go, yeah, but they've done more studies and it's changing.

Speaker 3 (10:29):
Well, trust me, in the cancer world, I sent a
lot of interesting studies. Yeah, yeah, but you do that
the people think. And also the thing is the study
between what happens in a peatrit dish compared to what
happens in the human body is entirely different.

Speaker 1 (10:44):
Well that's the thing that someone was saying with mice,
because we've done it on mice and it was really
this really interesting thingy just it seems like an obvious
thing to say, but mice aunt humans that they're so
very different their way. How fast their.

Speaker 3 (10:58):
Heart beats, how it's metal is the key difference. Metabolism
is something like forty to four hundred times faster than
as human. So that means any drug that goes and
just gets wiped out, whereas a human you put that
level of drug in and it would yeah.

Speaker 1 (11:13):
Yeah. And the other thing, as with the whole that
that situation is you can completely control a mouse's environment,
whereas they have all these studies on diet and stuff,
and the humans lie because you cannot control them. And
also you can't keep them in a study for any
period of time because you don't have the kind of
money to keep someone on a study for twenty years.

Speaker 4 (11:31):
Well, the other problem is you don't know what they've
eaten before they've gone into the study. Yeah, so you
may have done something for five or ten years in
your life, and you may have eaten fast.

Speaker 7 (11:39):
I read the studies are read.

Speaker 1 (11:42):
I read the study about this person that was doing
a back end study on other studies and actually investigating
people and what they were saying and what they were
actually doing, and they found out that people light the
light to the person of the study took the same
way that people lie to doctors, you know, like when
people get asked how much they drink that they've done
these studies find it people always say way less than

(12:02):
they drink to doctors, like it's in a private situation,
but they don't want to shame themselves in front of
this one person. And that's the same thing that often
happens in studies. People go and they go, in the study,
you were supposed to be not eating donuts every day,
and they go, I haven't eaten any donuts. You know,
they'll say that just to impress the person that is
running the study, but they've shelved a sleever. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (12:25):
Also, you can't you can't. You can't measure stuff, right,
Like I've tried calorie tracking, yeah, yeah, two days and
it's a shambles, right. Yeah, Like if you actually had
on your vape, right, you actually had to say how
much for my vapor? Your chances are being accurate.

Speaker 1 (12:42):
It's well, you can't remember anything from three days ago,
Like the humans can't remember anything, and they fill out
these these studies. It's it's pretty it's pretty dodge, but they're.

Speaker 3 (12:52):
Like talking to a judge saying that the worst thing
in a court case often is an eyewitness. Yeah right,
because they're like determined, and the dude was wearing a
blue hoodie.

Speaker 1 (13:01):
Right, Yeah.

Speaker 3 (13:02):
Then the camera footage comes out the guys in a
red hoodie, but the person honestly believes that the person
they saw was wearing a blue hoodie. Y.

Speaker 1 (13:12):
What it's that? We do this thing on Game of
Two Halves. I believe it's called this TV show and
it's and they play this video clip of all these things.
Then afterwards they ask you questions. They go, what color
pants was that guy? And you go pink and you're
so sure you can see it in your head, and
then they go back and go, no, they weren't pink
at all. The pink thing was in the next video.
You know, it's like that was.

Speaker 4 (13:31):
Only forty five seconds ago as well, Yeah, justin and
why has that gone in pink? Why has that memory
embedded as pink? This is such an interesting idea because first,
the other thing I'm fascinated by. You know, when you're
talking to someone and they'll be saying something to you
and you're painting the picture in your mind yet your

(13:52):
eyes are still looking at the thing that you're looking at.
So somehow you have an ability as a human to
have two pictures going on in your head. You have
the internal picture which is occurring overlaid almost over the top,
and there's vague sense over the top of the actual image.

Speaker 1 (14:09):
That your eyes are does that I have the information
that's coming into the bit that creates a picture from
the optic nerves, right, that is such a small part
of what is actually creating the image. Far more of
what is creating your eye sight is coming from your imagination.
They can they can run the number of neurons, so
basically you've got like say it was a taps into

(14:31):
a pool. There's there's one tap which is the actual vision,
and there's multiple taps which are just your imagination in
your mind and your thinking and your memory. So at
any given time you're creating most of it, which is
which is why we can do it because because you're
like you see some pants, you don't want to waste
the energy time. You know, you don't want their brains
take up a lot of energy, and you don't as
we're revolved to not waste energy. So you go, I

(14:53):
feel like they'll be pink pants and that's enough for you. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (14:56):
It was like before we recording this, Jerry, you're talking
about beer hall in Germany, right, and then I was
seeing your face, but what I was actually seeing was
a huge beer hall, you holding a stein, you know,
g Laane with half a pair of later hosing on
going downe and yeah. But I was just maintaining that

(15:20):
while obviously seeing you here in the studio.

Speaker 4 (15:22):
Yeah, yeah, exactly. It's clever how it overlays the two. Yeah,
and then but that's that's how you can imagine something
that's totally how you can take something in and give
a vibe. But I think it's the same way how
you can have a dream about a song and it
could be the greatest song that you've ever heard in
your life, and you will wake up and you'll think, God,

(15:43):
I finally think, I just remember what that song was.
I don't think the song was any notes. Yeah, you know,
I just think your brain had told you that you
had the great song.

Speaker 3 (15:55):
That movie of the guy got knocked out. He was
a massive Beatles fan. He got knocked out. Then when
he came to the Beatles had never existed, but he
knew every Beatles song. Oh yes, and then he became
a yeah, and then he became a huge hit because
he just remembered all those songs.

Speaker 1 (16:12):
Yeah. I I it's interesting because like when you listen
think about a song, does it play like I was
thinking about like a memory. So if you're going back
die and you think about a memory of your life,
it kind of plays in real time like you're watching
a video. Like, so if you're telling the story or
remembering it, it's got to start in a finish. But
all that just is existing in your brain is one thing.

(16:32):
So if you have a memory of a song, does
it play? Does it play like you put like your
press play on on Spotify and you're listening to it,
or is it all exist at once and you're experience
it in one yeah second about it? Or if you're
singing yeah, and say you start, you get a song
stuck in your head and you start singing it over
and over again, you kind of sing it from apart
and it plays out. It's fucking weird. It is so weird.

Speaker 4 (16:54):
And the other part about is people walking around at
any given time. I mean, I've got about five thousand
songs that are stored away.

Speaker 1 (17:01):
In my brain.

Speaker 4 (17:01):
I know the lyrics to them. I know the notes.
I mean, I can't tell you what the notes are,
but I know what they are.

Speaker 1 (17:06):
Ye hear it.

Speaker 4 (17:07):
I find it so weird that as a musician, I mean,
you've done this mat You've written songs. The stuff that
you've written, the stuff that you've created, is now in
my head. It's gone from your head to my head.
I'm wandering around with it. At any given time when
I hear it, I immediately know it. I know all of
the bits that song I wrote. I Am the Masked Man, I.

Speaker 1 (17:28):
See you in the dark days, I see you in
the park.

Speaker 4 (17:33):
It had that the power of music is that, the
power kind of a celebrity that we have as humans,
is that we respect the ability to transplant something like
that into a huge amount of humans.

Speaker 7 (17:49):
I mean, we've talked about Neil fit about this. He
knows that pretty much every New Zealander, nearly.

Speaker 4 (17:55):
You know of a certain age anyway, every New Zealand,
probably over the age of twenty, knows one of his songs.

Speaker 7 (18:02):
So at any time he could be walking along.

Speaker 4 (18:04):
And they have a bit of him, a bit of
consciousness that he's created inside of them, and the fact
that that makes you, that gives you a greater currency,
that gives.

Speaker 3 (18:18):
You also the grain. The brain is a great leveler
because you've got in your brain Deja Voodu right next
to Tchaikovsky.

Speaker 7 (18:28):
Yeah, that's right, that's.

Speaker 3 (18:31):
Just sitting there in your brain, and he's a.

Speaker 1 (18:33):
Bo anyone that's done meditational. No that you don't have
a choice whether today, tomorrow, Timuru by Deja Voodo or
Choiskovsky will pop up. No, like any point you're walking
around that where does that come?

Speaker 3 (18:44):
It just comes.

Speaker 1 (18:45):
I'm gonna I'm gonna unleash this song, unleash this piece
of music. Or it might be like an ad that
you heard in the nineteen eighties.

Speaker 4 (18:52):
It's a loose filing system. Yeah, it's a loose filing
cabinet that you've got going on in there. It's not
as simple as it. It's not nice and tidy. It
is tidy, but it's.

Speaker 3 (19:01):
Not I couldn't get my head around. I was talking
to this guy and he had what is it called,
like facial amnesia or something, so he can't create pictures
in his brain.

Speaker 1 (19:10):
Wow.

Speaker 3 (19:11):
So if you're not in the room, and I said,
you know, Jerry Wells. He knows your name, but he
cannot picture you. Oh wow. But then when he sees you,
he knows that you were Jeremy Wells. But when you're away,
he couldn't. If he was the best drawer in the world,
he couldn't draw your He can't recall could he recall

(19:32):
what a pie look like? No, he can't see pictures.
He can't see all images in his Brus Jesus that
would be. So he knows what a pie is, but
he knows theoretically and I couldn't get my head around this.
So he knows theoretically what a pie is, but he
can't see an image.

Speaker 1 (19:49):
Of a pie.

Speaker 5 (19:50):
Wow.

Speaker 4 (19:50):
While we're on that, how do blind people who are
one hundred percent blind see color?

Speaker 5 (19:55):
Well, let's take a break and come back with the answer.

Speaker 1 (20:02):
Question is how do blind questions? Do you trim you downstairs?

Speaker 2 (20:10):
Never seen anything?

Speaker 7 (20:11):
Think of color?

Speaker 5 (20:12):
That's why it's the similar questions and people that were
born deaf when they when they have thoughts in their head.
You know, how you have a thought that kind of
has a voice or something like that, or when you
have a dream you hear people talking and stuff like that.
Do they have to people that have been born from.

Speaker 1 (20:25):
Yeah, because they've done these studies where they have people
that have they've had these studies of people that never
learned language at all because they've been on their own.
It was Ukrainian babies that they they had this used
to think that you didn't talk to children if they
were orphans. They had this really weird way of treating orphans.
And it's a very different thing people that grow up
not thinking in words because some of us thinking words

(20:48):
and some of us thinking pictures and most of us
thinking both. But if you didn't have the words, because
most of us do think in words, which is really
fucking weird because that's that's a language that's been in
print on us. But I guess there's a baby at
some point. You have to think of pictures before you
get there, and dogs thinking pictures.

Speaker 3 (21:06):
On the color thing though, even though you can't see,
can you still take in frequency though, because you know
color is like a frequency, so whether you can still
absorb that frequency, But then you wouldn't have any frame
of reference because you know, it's more like this Britannicas
we're looking at. You'd say it's sort of a maroon red.

(21:28):
We agree, even though we might see that color differently,
we agree that's that frequency is what we all sort
of are calling a maroon red color.

Speaker 1 (21:37):
Well, there's something I was reading the other day and
some people would dispute this, but that they didn't have
a word for blue for the longest time, and lots
of cultures don't have blue. They just think it's shades
of black. They just think it's shades of night.

Speaker 3 (21:49):
So wrong.

Speaker 1 (21:51):
Yeah, well they're wrong idiots.

Speaker 3 (21:54):
I mean from Greek.

Speaker 7 (21:58):
That blue is definitely a shade of black, don't you.

Speaker 1 (22:00):
Yeah, so they just think blue is black. And interestingly,
like you know, when we talk about the seven colors,
we look at that's just because Newton was like I
want seven because because it was because he was a
religious number in seven's heavenly number. So a lot of these,
a lot of these things that we perceive around color
of just being imprinted upon us.

Speaker 3 (22:21):
This has been a real take some mushrooms at a UNI.

Speaker 1 (22:29):
This is what people tune into the Daily Bespoke podcast for.

Speaker 3 (22:34):
I learned you learn a lot right from nicotine, yeah,
through to do blind people see colors. I don't think
we're going to.

Speaker 1 (22:40):
Do what sex, like if you're blind, like, have you've
always been blind? Do you like a set of moves
as much as we do? Is it the looking at
them or the feel of them that we like?

Speaker 3 (22:53):
Wouldn't it be the whole seven Indian masters feeling up
an elephant situation?

Speaker 4 (22:59):
You like, touch'd all over. I suspect that as a
blind person we're talking blind sex here. Yeah, I suspect
as a blind person that the sensation of touch and smell.

Speaker 3 (23:14):
Would be intense and.

Speaker 4 (23:16):
You'd be able to You'd be able to smell a
whole lot more things than you would be able to
if you couldn't. But I think touch would be a
big one because because you're essentially feeling out shapes and
the and the sensation of a shape would would then
draw pictures in your mind.

Speaker 1 (23:30):
Sexual activity is better. You know, there's a problem in
society now where, particularly for men, sexuality is becoming way
more visual because of pornography and stuff, so that they're
getting their cues from from visual more than them touch
and touch seems used to be example, Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 3 (23:50):
Coma a bit of coma bit of like jasmine essential
oil through you downstairs and bring back because then you
know then you're bringing back sort of different senses.

Speaker 1 (24:01):
I'm still using brill cream and like sort of combing
it to one side. Yeah, just a little sophisticated. A
couple of sprigs of lavender.

Speaker 3 (24:11):
Maybe, yeah, yeah, don't no, you don't want to go rosemary.
You don't want to go sort of color may savory.

Speaker 1 (24:19):
Do you know what some is good? Do you know
what's talking about this conversation? As my mum's name was rosemary,
and then she decided she didn't like it, so she
changed the name to lavender. So both those things that
you're cutting off and putting down your downstairs made me
feel uncomfortable.

Speaker 3 (24:33):
Bold move, because I would have gone, you don't like
the name rosemary because it's maybe sort of a spice
or a scent. But then you're just see what len
it's a master stroke. Well you should never bring to
the bedroom, which I think everyone does in the failed
attempt in their late teens early twenties. Is food. You know,

(24:53):
you think I'll be so sexy they have some chocolate strawberries,
or paint some chocolate on you. It's a horrendous idea.

Speaker 4 (25:04):
Using you're telling about there's a dipping well for strawberry
with putting some chocolate in it and it rise up.

Speaker 5 (25:12):
Every Body shot is so sexy though, you know that
the idea of drinking off someone's stomach, the idea of
that really gets me going. And do you ever find yourself
actually in a situation where a body shots happening? You going, what.

Speaker 3 (25:23):
Cruiser?

Speaker 7 (25:24):
And yeah, I mean, have you ever mesh, I mean,
to be fair, you you poo poo.

Speaker 4 (25:29):
The idea, But have you ever opened your mouth, live
face up, open your mouth and taken a drink of
bourbon off someone's butt? Crack as it goes down as
they're in the all force position and you're underneath them,
they down.

Speaker 5 (25:46):
Oddly specific, But no, I haven't done that.

Speaker 1 (25:48):
Three days radio you're thinking about I'll tell you what's
interesting about the male memory, Like so you got to
talk about you can't remember anything, and and eyewitnesses a
terrible all that kind of stuff. But there was a
woman that just walked past and I just caught her
out of the corner of my eye, walk past down
that alleyway, not her, and I bet I could describe

(26:11):
everything not her. I bet I could describe everything about it,
like what the black sweater she was wearing imprinted into
my memory. So if she commits a murder, then I'd
know exactly everything she did. Surprising that women don't get
busted for more murders because you.

Speaker 8 (26:28):
Know, maybe that's my hot woman murderer, because there'd be
four hundred guys that knew exactly their movements, or would
be like CCTV footage around the town, they know exactly.

Speaker 1 (26:39):
Where they were. Anyway. Yeah, see, bloody busy, thanks so
much for coming in.

Speaker 3 (26:45):
It's an absolute pleasure. And just you stay safe on
that vape that feels like a gateway. You're going to
be full bulking horns. Surely, I'll tell you what.

Speaker 1 (26:55):
Since you guys brought it up, it's actually cured in
my diction. Have you noticed that I haven't touched it
since then?

Speaker 2 (26:59):
Yes?

Speaker 1 (27:00):
Nice? Yeah, So I'm off it now. I'll just I'm
gonna go off.

Speaker 5 (27:03):
It played the Saturday I fent on Spotify two and
a half thousand players.

Speaker 1 (27:11):
What I'm meeting. Congrats me just.

Speaker 6 (27:13):
Be you, but one day will breach breach breach.

Speaker 1 (27:24):
I'm going to bridge you deep.

Speaker 6 (27:27):
I'm a five fan. I'll be your guy man. Yeah,
we'll bridge breach breach. I'm going to breach you deep.
Come on, John Line, I'm going to jab you. Fine,
then I'll run. I'm fucking post shop.

Speaker 1 (27:55):
We were deep in the COVID situation. Now, I was trying.
I was trying to run a six yual Mida four there.

Speaker 3 (28:01):
Yeah, there was a real there's a real stalking in
the Parkine, Well, you're covering so many.

Speaker 1 (28:10):
That was at the time where you were allowed to
be within three meters of someone. So I was writing
a song about wearing a mask and following someone that
you fancied three meters behind.

Speaker 4 (28:20):
Breaching and the breach. I haven't heard that word for
a bloody long time.

Speaker 3 (28:24):
Breaches and the birth and World War two is what
I think of the word breach.

Speaker 7 (28:31):
Hey, thanks for coming in.

Speaker 4 (28:39):
I just started with a terrible piece of well finished
with another terrible piece of ED three.

Speaker 1 (28:45):
Now there you go. I've kept trying to call it
the Life of Die, but it's called Let Die three
Documentary three.

Speaker 3 (28:53):
Now stream your face off.

Speaker 1 (28:54):
Yeah, I got there. I love your mate. Got the
album one stuff. Hello, I'm Matt Heath. You have been
listening to the Matt and Jerry Daily Bespoke podcast Right
now you can listen to our Radio Highlights podcast, which
you will absolutely get barred up about anyway. Set to download, like, subscribe, write, review,

(29:14):
all those great things. It really helps myself and Jerry
and to a lesser extent, Mash and Ruder. If you
want to discuss anything raised in this pod, check out
the Conclave, a Matt and Jerry Facebook discussion group. And
while I'm plugging stuff, my book, A Lifeless Punishing Thirteen
Ways to Love the Life You've Got is out now
get it wherever you get your books, or just google
the bastard. Anyway you seem busy, I'll let you go.

(29:36):
Bless Blessed, blessed. Give them a taste of keyw from me.
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