Rod Arquette Show - Sen Lee on Congress; Dem Fraud and Deception; Joe Biden..Not a Decent Man

Rod Arquette Show Daily Rundown – Tuesday, July 9, 2024 

4:20 pm: Senator Mike Lee joins Rod for their regular conversation about what’s happening in Washington, D.C., and today they’ll discuss the push from some on the left for Joe Biden to step down as the Democratic candidate for President, plus the possibilities for Donald Trump’s vice-presidential running mate.

4:38 pm: Tom Basile, Host of “America Right Now” on Newsmax TV and a columnist at the Washington Times joins the show for a conversation about the dangerous fraud and deception of Democrats.

6:05 pm: Jonathan Tobin, Editor-in-Chief for the Jewish News Syndicate joins the program to discuss his piece for The Federalist in which he writes Joe Biden is not a decent man.

6:20 pm: Kevin McCullough, a nationally syndicated radio host and contributor to Townhall.com joins Rod for a conversation about his piece in which he says the race for President doesn’t change regardless of who the Democratic nominee might be.6:38 pm: Scott Morefield, Columnist for Townhall.com, joins Rod to discuss how removing Joe Biden from the presidential race would only stand to improve the Democrat’s chances of winning the White House.

Episode Transcript

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Welcome to the rod ARCATCHO on thisTuesday afternoon. Great to be with you
here on Utah's Talk Radio one ohfive nine k rs, live everywhere on
the iHeartRadio app. Is there enoughgoing on for you right now? I
mean every you know, you can'tget away from the huge, the wave
of news and information that is comingupon us each end, every day.

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We've got a president who just afew moments ago wrapped up a speech to
a NATO meeting celebrating the seventy fifthanniversary of NATO in Washington. He looked
better, and he sounded better today, and apparently this whole effort to have
him drop out of the race haslost a lot of momentum. We'll be
talking with Utah sender Mike Lee aboutthat. But we had, you know,

(00:42):
some members of the House today,Jerry Natler for one of them,
who's kind of backtracking. Remember heand four others, three others I think
over the weekend we're calling for Buydento step down. Well, today he's
backing down a little bit, andhe's basically saying, you know, maybe
it was a mistake, Maybe weshould take our time and see what happens.
And you've got more members of Congressstepping up to support Joe Biden.

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And I think you know what happensbetween now and let's say the convention,
which I think happens mid August forthe Democrats, or the election, and
there's another bad performance by Joe Biden. I mean, what do they do
in that case? We'll talk aboutthat and get your reaction to that.
Also, what is going on withmail in voting here in the state of
Utah. The Iron County Commissioners Iunderstand, are holding an emergency meeting now

(01:29):
to discuss if they can certify thevote in the second Congressional district here in
the state of Utah. Apparently whathas happened. What happened was that some
of the mail in ballots were shippedto Las Vegas in the processing center there,
and by the time they got back, they were not accepted because the
postmark date was not June twenty fifth, which was the day of the primary

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election. It was the day afterVegas apparently had received the ballots and didn't
pay attention to him, I guessuntil after midnight. Therefore, they were
marked a day late and a dollarshort. And there are some people down
there I think there are about fourhundred ballots down there of people or notified
by the way, you got yourmail in ballot into late. Therefore we're

(02:16):
going to discard it. And peopleare going, what wait a minute here,
I got money in on time,but now I'm being told it's too
late, raising questions again about mailin voting here in the state of Utah.
And we'll getting into that. Iwant to talk to you about that
in the five o'clock cover, Butas I mentioned, we've got a jam
packed show today. Utah Senator MikeLee will be joining us. We'll also

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talk about the deception, in thedeceit of the Democratic Party in covering up
all these years for Joe Biden.A little bit later on, we'll talk
about Joe Biden. You know,a lot of people during the twenty twenty
campaign, because they hated Orange ManBad and I'm talking about Donald Trump kept
on telling the American people Joe Bidenis just a decent, upstanding American.

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No he's not. And we'll diginto that as well. And a little
bit later on we'll talk about howthe race has changed or has it changed,
in the run for the White House. So, like I said,
a lot to get to today.We always invite you to be a part
of our conversation, and don't forget, we do have another pair of Kenny
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(03:27):
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Coming out of one of our commercialbreaks, you'll hear a Kenny Chesney
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win those tickets. So we've gota lot to get to. As I
mentioned today, I want to talkabout first Wall as we start off the

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show today. And you know I'vetalked about this over the years. If
you've listened to the show people whoare involved and whose families are involved in
first response in law enforcement. Youknow they never know. I mean,
this can happen to all of us, but the probability of them being injured

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is higher because of the field inwhich they work in. We're talking about
police and fire, highway patrolmen,and it takes, in my opinion,
a lot of guts to put yourlife on the line to protect the public
from harm. And we had asituation this morning. This was up in

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Summit County where a Summit County detectiveor deputy I'm sorry, was taken to
the hospital with a minor injury afterbringing a wrong way driver to a stop
on State Route forty, very busyhighway up there. Officials say the driver
of the wrong way vehicle was apparentlyexperiencing a diabetic episode with low blood sugar.

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Now. The highway patrol, accordingto this story, said the driver
of the report of the pickup truckwas traveling westbound in the eastbound lanes.
Multiple agencies responded They tried to stopthe vehicle just before seven o'clock yesterday morning,
but Park City officials were able toslow down traffic in the area.

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While officials tried to bring the carto a stop. Eventually, a Summit
County deputy used his vehicle to anear stop and collided with the wrong way
pickup truck headed on UHP, headedon the highway, according to the High
Patrol. Can you imagine that?I mean, and for some reason,

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over the year, last couple ofyears, we have had an increasing number
of drivers simply going the wrong way, and there is incident after incident.
Let's see, I think I've gotthis somewhere where I can count four or
five incidents, some here in SaltLake County, some up in Davis County,
where law enforcement police officers have puttheir own lives on the line to

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stop a vehicle going the wrong way, and they're trained how to do this.
Apparently, I don't know what thetraining involved involves, but they are
now trained how to use their vehicleat their own peril to stop a vehicle
that's going in the wrong direction.Talk about guts, folks in Kudos to

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that officer up there in Summit County, a deputy up there, Thank you
very much for that. You justnever know what could happen in a situation
like this. But there are fouror five, six six incidents over the
past several months where officers have hadto step in and stop a vehicle using
their own vehicle to protect the public. And that's that's why you need to

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say simply thank you for doing that, because that is just that's a tough
decision for a police officer to makeout on the highway as to what he
needs to do to protect people goingthe wrong way. And you had an
officer again using their own vehicle tostop a wrong way driver and possibly save
lives on the highway. Kudos tothem and thank you very much for that.

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All Right, more coming up,great show lined up for you today.
We'll be talking with Utah Senator MikeLee. He'll be joining us.
We'll also talk about America right now, Deception and deceit. That's all coming
up right here on Utah's Talk Radioone oh five nine k n RS.
Speaking of the presidential race, itappears at this time now that some Democrats

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are starting to back away from callsover the weekend for Joe Biden to step
down. But again the end today, the New York Times editorialized that Joe
Biden should step away and bow outof the race for the Democratic nomination and
possible re election to a second term. They indicated that he is no longer
able because of the challenges he facesboth mentally and physically to carry out the

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challenges that to carry out the challenges, and to carry on the message about
his policy. Well, joining uson our Newsmaker line to talk more about
this as Utah Senator Mike Lee.Mike, always great to have you on
the show. Mike, let meask you, it appears to me the
calls for Joe Biden kind of losinga little bit of steam. What's your
take in Washington. Well, look, if somebody had told me even a

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few months or even a few weeksago that the New York Times and a
bunch of members of Congress and awhole lot of political commentators across the spectrum
on the left would be calling forhim to step down, I would have
thought that he would be gone bynow. That would be at least announcing

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that he wasn't going to run,if not leaving office altogether. But as
you've note, the momentum to ousthim from the ticket seems to be twinling.
It's definitely losing the steam that ithad, in part because I don't
think much as we didn't anticipate allof this. I think they didn't anticipate

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the extent to which he and hisfamily would push back, and that's having
an impact. And so as ofright now, look, I go back
and forth on this every couple ofhours later today, and I might reach
a different conclusion. But as ofright now, I think the odds are
slightly in Joe Biden's favor that hestays on the ticket and stays in office

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and then gets fat badly in November. If there was a better choice than
Kamala Harris to replace him, wouldit be different Mike? It could be
depending on who that person was.Many have speculated that if Michelle Obama suddenly
appeared at the top of the ticket, she'd be hard to defeat, and

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I think that's true. I thinkshe would be hard to defeat. But
that doesn't mean Michelle Obama is willing, ready and eager to step into those
shoes, nor does it mean thatJioe Biden is ready to step aside for
her. And so we have toanswer those questions kind of in context,
in the context of what's possible andwhat's likely. Right now, there's not

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any option that I'm aware of ofsomeone who's available and able to step in
with Joe Biden not being willing toleave, Mike, I want to stay
on politics for just a minute,and then we'll talk about what's going on
with NATO, because I know you'vegot a couple of measures you'll be introducing
as far as NATO is concerned.But let's talk about Donald Trump. He's
got a rally tonight in Florida.Marco Rubio has been invited to speak there,

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and he'll be speaking there. Thereare three senators who names constantly come
up as far as v pigs,Marco Rubio, jd Vance, and Tim
Scott. What's your overall assessment ofthese various men who served in the Senate
and work with you right now inthe Senate. I know him all well
and I really like eachypt. MarcoRubio and I were elected to the Senate

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at the same time in twenty ten. You and I have been from He's
actually got connections to the state ofUtah. He have relatives in Utah for
a long time when he and hisfamily lived in Nevada when he was growing
up. He and his wife,Jeannett are have been dear friends of mine
and my wife Sharon's. Jadie Vanceis a more recent addition to the Senate

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from Ohio. I've got to knowhim years ago after reading his book Hill
Billy Elgy and I ran into himat a conference and have stayed in touch
with him ever since then and havereally enjoyed working with him in the Senate.
Tim Scott came to the House ofRepresentatives at the same time that Rubio
and I were elected to the Senatein twenty ten, and then joined us
in the Senate two years later afterformer Senator of Jim the Ment left to

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run the Heritage Foundation and then GovernorNikki Haley of South Carolina appointed Tim Scott,
then Representative Congressman Scott to become SenatorScott and really enjoyed working with him
on a lot of issues. Anyone of them would be terrific, and
as far as I know, they'reall still very significant possibilities in the Beach
Takes All. Right, let's talkabout a couple of legislative issues that I

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know you're concerned about. First ofall, this move in the House to
require people to show their citizenship beforethey vote in federal elections. We're talking
about the Save Act. What isyour opinion on this and why is the
Biden administration opposing this? Mike?But the Save Act is absolutely essential because
it would prevent non citizens, nonAmerican citizens from illegally voting, protecting the

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votes of American citizens, and protectingall of us from disenfranchisement. Now,
in my view, the only reasonto oppose it would be if you are
comfortable with non citizens voting voting illegally. It's already against the law to vote
if you are a non citizen ina federal election. Now, Oddly enough,

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as I pointed out yesterday on myon X and my base Mike Lee
account, it's odd that the President'sprimary justification for opposing it is basically that
it's already illegal for non citizens tovote. But that's a really weird thing
to say. It's a little bitlike saying it's already illegal to sell liquor

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to minors, and therefore we don'tneed ID laws. We don't need laws
requiring a photo ID showing that you'reold enough to buy alcohol. That's the
kind of very flawed reasoning that theWhite House is using and opposing this,
which is exactly why I come tothe conclusion that the White House is far

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too comfortable with and perhaps happy about, the idea of non citizens voting.
Look, we've got an estimated thirtymillion non citizens in the country, and
about ten million of those have comejust in the last three and a half
years since Biden has been in office. He's played a big role in the
number of non citizens coming into theUnited States, and most of those who

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have come in under his watch havebeen coming in illegally. So he's got
a special duty, an extra dutybeyond what any president would have to take
care of this, and the factthat he's pushing in the opposite direction against
the Save Act is indefensible. Butthe House representatives will be voting this week,
I believe, most likely tomorrow onthe Save Act, and my hope

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is that we can get that passin the House, and as soon as
it gets passed in the House,I'm going to start working on ways to
get it teed up for a votein the Senate. NATO leaders, of
course, our media in Washington abig anniversary for NATO. I think it's
seventy five years now. Mike,you've introduced some legislation dealing with in the
summit taking place. What is thatlegislation all about. Well, look,

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I've got a resolution that condemns theBiden Administration's recent ten year bilateral security agreement
with Ukraine. It asserts that theagreement has no legal force without Senate ratification,
because of course it doesn't. TheConstitution makes that pretty clear. You've

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got to have Senate ratification for atreaty, and that takes two thirds of
the Senate to do that. Andit also rejects or rejects that agreement as
something of a bridge to NATO's welcomingor to Ukraine's entry into NATO. There'd

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be a big problem. It amendthe Mutual Security Act is nineteen fifty four
to provide that initiating an accession processfor Ukraine to NATO would be grounds for
immediate US withdrawal from NATO. Keepin mind, Rod, if we brought
Ukraine into NATO, think about whatthat would mean. Because we have an

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Article five obligation to defend a NATOmember in time of war, they're already
at war with Russia. That wouldbe tantamount to our declaring war against Russia,
something we should really not be eagerto do. Utah under Mike Lee,
joining us on our any our Newsmakerline. You're on Utah's talk radio
one oh five nine kayan Teres.This year it seems to be taking on

(16:33):
I think more intensity because we talkabout the election and how important this election
is compared to previous elections. Overthe years, You've heard people say,
well, this next election is reallyimportant, but I don't know what it
is. But there is something differentabout this year's election. And joining us
on our newsmaker line to talk moreabout that is Tom Basili. He is
host of America Right Now on newsmaxsTV, also a columnist with The Washington

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Times. Tom, how are youwelcome to the rod Arkitchew. Thanks for
joining us, Ron, Thank youso much, appreciate the opportunity, and
thank you for what you do everyday to help keep America free. Well
let me ask you this, Tom, Why is this election and they say
it all the time, the mostimportant election ever? Why is this one
so different? Do you think?Tom? Well, look the hoax that

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was and the fraud that was perpetratedon the people of this country in twenty
twenty, which manifested itself in theperson of Joe Biden right was a way
for the far left in this countryto fully come out of the closet.
And when you see how you know, we talked, we've talked for years
about how the left wanted to reallyand Marxism monthly to march through our institutions.

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It has really had full force andeffect over we've seen over the last
three three plus years. And soyou know, we have to be able
to pull that, to pull thatback, uh and and prevent you know,
the further erosion of our institutions,of our constitutional freedoms, and and

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of of the trust and the environmentthat that has made this country, you
know what it is. So soI I know it does sound cliche.
I've I've said it myself, youknow, on on my on my program
and when I was a radio hostyears ago. We always talk about the
important election. But now I thinkpeople are also rod seeing as more people

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are waking up to the fact thatthey that there was a fraud that was
perpetrated on this country and it wasvery deliberate to install a president who was
not the person that you know,the people who told who he that he
was, who was not capable ofdoing the job, who is now not
capable of serving another four years.They they're rightfully now asking themselves, Wow,

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is this isn't a conspiracy theory anymore? We're seeing real erosion of our
rights in our republic and our democracy. Tom, do you get a sense
that there are people in America todaywho are scared about what the future may
look like if we don't do somethingabout it now? Absolutely, And if
you look at the Pew research studiesthat came out late last year, people

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are exhausted. They are very pessimisticabout the future of this country. They
lack confidence in our institutions. Andlet me be very clear, those are
all objectives of the American left.Those are all objectives of the Democrats,
socialists, and of the Marxists thathave an enormous amount of power and influence

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over our schools, over the careerservice, within our government, over our
higher education, over our media,over our social media, and even over
some of our corporations. And so, you know, people who are scared
and people who are concerned. Theyhave every right to be, and they're
feeling it more. But Rob,that's I think one of the reasons why

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we are also starting to feel apushback. People are people are waking up,
and and I think that we're goingto see the pendulum swing back toward
our constitution and and our and ourand our freedom here over these next few
months. Tom, How are they? How are those on the left able
to pull this off? I mean, as you right, you know,

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they made Joe Biden, they madehim strong, stable, season moderate,
but we all knew that was notthe case. But how were they able
to pull this off? Tom?Well, you and I knew, but
the media, the operatives, thesocial media companies, they you know,
people like Mark Zuckerberg and Jack Dorsey, they were all in on it,

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and they all promoted it. Sothey were all part of this massive psychological
operation. And and and frankly,you know, Rod, I hate to
say it, but conservatives sometimes don'thave the guts to stand up and push
back hard enough. And uh,you know, I've been talking about this
for four years. It was theyears four years ago this weekend that the

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Biden Standers Unity Task Force Recommendations,which essentially became the National Socialist Manifesto for
today's Democratic Party, was released,and I was pounding away on this,
how how this is? Bernie Sanderswrote the agenda and Joe Biden, who

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was sitting in the basement, wasgoing to basically be a puppet of the
far left, and you know,and people like you and I who said
that we were called conspiracy. Youknow, we have to have much louder,
a much louder voice. Tom,great chatting with you. Appreciate a
few minutes of your time today.Look forward to having you back on those
Thanks Tom, Thank you so much. Bro. Take care all right on

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our newsmaker line, Tom Basilli.He is with Newsmax's TV. Also a
contributor to The Washington Times. Allright, more coming up on the Rod
Arkent' show, The Debate What OnJune twenty seventh, we had the follow
up interview on ABC with Joe Biden. Over the weekend, the you know,
people basically said, you know,you keep on hearing people say he's

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done, he can't go on,and most people thought that the pressure would
mount on Joe Biden and he wouldstep down. Well over the weekend,
of course, him and his familycame out very strong that he is not
going anywhere. He is not goingto bow out of the race, and
he's going to remain in it untilthe end because he honestly believes that he's

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beaten Donald Trump once before in thetwenty twenty election, he can do it
again. And that's why it appearsthat Joe Biden is staying in the race.
And remember over the weekend you hadDemocratic members of the House, some
Democratic senators who are saying to themselves, you know what he's got to go.

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Isn't it funny in a matter ofdays, how all of a sudden
this has changed, And what changedabout it? I mean, Joe Biden
didn't get any younger. The interviewhe did with Stephanopoulos on Friday was not
a great interview. He made somemistakes, again claiming things just are not
true. But why do you thinkit changed? I mean, think about

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this a couple of days ago,and I've gone back and forth. I
first said he's gone, then Isaid, no, he's going to stay,
and I go back and forth.Mike Lee was on with us in
the last hour, and Mike saidthe same thing. You know, one
hour, you think he's going,the next hour, you think he's going
to stay. He just gave aspeech to a meeting of NATO celebrating the
seventy fifth anniversary of NATO and whathappened there. Of course, he looked

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fine. I don't think he madeany missteps, not that I could see.
And you know, there are peoplenow saying, you know, we're
backing down from what we said earlier. We think he should stay in the
race. It's kind of funny howthings go nowadays. All right, now,
let's talk about an election here inUtah, an election that is still

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not settled. We're talking about therace between Celeste Molloy and Kolby Jenkins in
Utah's second Congressional district. There isan emergency meeting, according to this article
that I saw in the Salt LakeTribune today, with the commissioners of the
Iron County Commission that is down therein southern Utah, Cedar City, I
believe, and whether or not theyare going to certify the ballots for the

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election that was held, the primaryelection that was held on June twenty fifth.
There is a slight problem and someninety eight hundred Southern Utah ballots are
in limbo amid a mail in ballotdispute there in Utah County. Remember,
people are always talking here in thestate of Utah about how great the mail

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in system is in this state,you know, and whenever you raise questions
about it, you have the LieutenantGovernor, Dietra Henderson, who overs as
her role of the as lieutenant governor, she oversees elections. You have the
election staff, and anytime you raisequestions, all of a sudden, you're
being called the conspirator, a conspiracytheorist, right because you may have some

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questions about what's going on with mailin balloting around the country. Utah has
received praise first mail in balloting process, which we've been doing what for about
ten or twelve years, I believe. Now, Well, but you have
this story out of Iron County tonightin a very close election. I think
at this point the separation between CelesteMolloy and Kolby Jenkins is only about three

(25:52):
hundred and fourteen votes. Okay,it is that close. Well, apparently
the story coming out of Iron Countyis that hundreds of ballots were not counted
in Iron County because they were postmarkedafter the deadline. Even though there people
are saying, wait a minute,I got this all in before the deadline,

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and now you're telling me that myvote does not count. Well,
here's what happened. According to theIron County clerk, his name is John
Whittaker. He said, after theballots were mailed, ballots went to Las
Vegas, where it's postal service stuff. So the ballats went to Las Vegas
for processing, and several added tothe mail on the twenty fourth were not

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stamped until the following day because theyarrived in Nevada after midnight. You got
the ballot in on time. Butbecause they arrived after midnight in Vegas,
which is what several hours away fromGeorge and really you know, maybe two

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two and a half hours away fromCedar City, they were sent there.
And because they arrived after midnight,they were not postmarked. That allowed them
to be counted. That makes senseto you. Here's what the story said.
There was a meeting apparently yesterday inIron County. Here's what the county

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clerk said. Because of their threehundred and forty mile journey all mail must
take to the Vegas Sorts Center andback, they were likely stamped after midnight
even though they entered the mail streamon the twenty fourth. If they were
postmarked on the twenty fifth, apparentlythey didn't count. He said, this

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is maddening. This is a countyclerk again, and he spot on with
this. I feel that over fourhundred voices were silenced for no good reason.
Our mail in system works really wellin this state. Really. I
mean, here's one person, oneperson who showed up at the commission meeting

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yesterday said this. He said,this is a big deal. If we
can't trust the post Office, whyare we using them? I think we
have to back off this universal mailin voting. It is broken now.
As I mentioned, the county commissionershave scheduled an emergency meeting for this afternoon.

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I think it started at four o'clock. I haven't been able to see
any new information coming out of hereas of yet as to what's going on
and what the commissioners decided to do. Today is the day they have to
certify the votes. Now, whathappens if Iron County doesn't certify its votes?
They're what ninety eight hundred ballots inIron County, which is in the

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second congressional district, and they aren'tyou know, they aren't certified. How
does that change the race? Imean, think about that. So I
want to open up the phones toyou tonight and I want to get your
thoughts on this because you hear peopleall the time praising mail in voting here
in the state of Utah. GregHughes, who's very passionate about this,

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will be on the show tomorrow.We'll talk more about this as well.
But you know, whenever you raisequestions about it, you are quickly called
into question as to you know,what are you doing? You know,
blah blah blah, you're a conspiratorand you don't don't trust elections anymore?
Do you blame people when they seestories that ninety eight hundred ballots in Iron

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County, which is the Cedar Cityarea, could be tossed out because they
can't certify because of issues with aboutfour hundred ballots that somehow were mailed in
on time. At least those whowere sent who sent in the ballots felt
they were on time. Come tofind out they get a message back from

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the county saying, man, yourvote doesn't count, folks, because it
was not postmark correctly. It's notthat person's fault. It's not the voter's
fault this time, it's the postalservice. And what on earth are we
doing? And maybe this is acommon practice, I don't know, but
what on Earth. How are webalanced here in Utah? To vote on

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a Utah election, are going througha Las Vegas sort center. Someone explained
that one to me as well,because it simply does not make any sense
that we're putting our votes in thehands of people in Vegas and trust that
they'll make sure they get marked ontime and those votes will be counted.

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What do you think about all this? Can we put trust in the mail
in voting now in this state?Eight eight eight five seven eight zero one
zero eight eight eight five seven eightzero one zero on your cell phone?
All you do is have to dialpound two fifty and say, hey,
Rod, we'd love you to inon the conversation. This afternoon. Iron
County is holding an emergency meeting todayto discuss certification of those ballots. Apparently

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about four hundred of them. Althoughthey were postmarked or they were turned in
on schedule, they were postmarked ata date later than the vote and therefore
they do not count. Upset somepeople and county commissioners are very concerned about
this as well. It's all aboutmail in voting, and I know Utah

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receives pats on the back all thetime about how great our system is,
and it may be. But here'san example of questions being raised about this.
Apparently the ballots were sent to asort center in Las Vegas and postmarked
the wrong time because they arrived aftermidnight, and that's not the way it
should be. So we're getting yourreaction to this. I mean, if

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in fact this is the case,and if in fact, over the past
several years ballasts in that part ofthe state are somehow sent to Vegas for
a sort center, what are wedoing sending ballots outside of the state to
be certified and then sent back tous or postmarked? Is that the way
to go? Eight eight eight fiveseven oh eight zero one zero on your
cell phone al pound two to fifteen, say hey, Rod, let's go

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to the phones. We begin withSpencer in Ogden tonight. Here on the
rod, I catcho Hi, Spencer, how are you hey? I'm good?
Are you out now? I'm doingwell? Thank you, Spencer.
So a while back, Sean Hannitysaid we should make voting days a holiday.
No more mail in ballots, nomore anything. You go to the

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ballot box in person, you vote, and you go home. And I
couldn't agree more. I have noidea why we are still so heavily like
pushing mail in ballots. It's Imean, it's a mess everywhere if you
look at their's discrepancies everywhere. Sowhy are we still doing it and pushing

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it? Well? Convenience. TheAmerican people want things, you know,
how we are in America. Wewant everything to be easy and convenient.
I agree with you. I kindof like a national holiday, you vote
on that day. If you don't, tough luck, you missed the date.
That's how I feel about it.Yeah, I feel about that.
And doesn't Europe do holiday voting?I think they do in most Europe a

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day. I'm yeah, I'm notsure. All I know is I actually
enjoyed going to the ballot box andtalking with people. You know you're in
line. It's a fun thing todo. I don't understand the you know,
the convenience of mailing it in.It's again, these people that mailed
it in. Did they think,oh, my vote's not going to get
counted because of a discrepancy. No, I think they mailed them in.

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I think they mailed them in wellahead of the deadline. As a matter
of fact, Spencer, and theythought good, I've got my ballot in.
Then they find out later my ballotdidn't count it because it was postmark
wrong. What gives with that?Yeah, I just don't see the convenience
in that. I think more ofa mess. But you know, I'm
that's just me. Oh, you'resuch a conspiracy theorist. Shame on your

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spencer. All right, let's goto the phones. Let's go to Camille
in Gransville tonight here on the rodArk Kent Show. Hi, Camiale,
how are you? Go ahead?Oh? I'm fine, go ahead.
I just can't say that anybody botherto talk with the post office. I
don't know enough about the investigation andwhat they're looking into, but I would

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think someone would be checking with thembecause I used to work at the facility.
And it's not like at midnight wechanged the dates. Anything that comes
in that day gets the date ofwhich the mail comes in. It's not
like, oh, at midnight everythingchanges. No. The only reason would
change the date is if it camein after all the machines have been down

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and it's now the next day's mail. Could that have happen? They dropped
after the step, That's what I'msaying. Yeah, they dropped it after
the box got picked up, thenthey wouldn't it would be the next day.
Did they bother to ask the postoffice? Did the people get it
in before the box got pulled?I mean there's more to it than just

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at midnight the post office changes it. And the post office has been handling
the mail for southern Utah for yearsin Las Vegas. Okay, so this
isn't anything new. I wondered aboutthat, Camille, Thank you. Let's
go to Joey and Ogden get histhoughts on this tonight. Joey, how
are you welcome to the rod Arcuatshow. Yeah, I'm doing great.

(35:34):
Thanks. So I just have aquick comment. I think it's easy to
concede the point that there's some vulnerabilitieswith the mail in voting, right.
I think the larger issue is theidea that, you know, we're trying
to make voting as convenient as possiblefor everyone in the name of rocking the
vote or having more people participate,and I think that we've got it wrong.

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I mean, we're having a lotof people, oh, who have
done no research, don't understand theissues, don't even know who the candidates
are. They're falling for propaganda thatthey see on the TV or the mailers
that they get. They're just checkingboxes. Yeah. Do we want a
more informed citizenry to vote or dowe just simply want anybody with a pulse?
Good point. I prefer the moreinformed citizenry, if you want my

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opinion, Joe, all right,more coming up here on the Radar Cat
Show eight eight eight five seven eightzero one zero, or on your cell
phone dial pound two fifteen, sayhey rod More coming up on the Rodar
Cat Show right now. We're talkingabout mail in voting here in the state
of Utah. County commissioners in IronCounty were scheduled to hold a meeting an
emergency meeting today at four o'clock todiscuss some ballots that weren't counted. As

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a matter of fact, a memberof the county commissioner's name is Paul Cousins
wrote on social media that hundreds ofballots were not counted because they were postmarked
after the deadline. He said this, and it's posting today. I've learned
that hundreds of ballots in southern Utahhave not been counted because the Postal Service
marked many of them late. Byseveral days. As a county commissioner,

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I'm expected to certify the election results. I cannot, in good conscience vote
to do so while hundreds of votersfollow state laws and their votes will not
be counted. Raises questions about mailand voting here in the state of Utah.
Back to the phones to get yourreaction to this developing story tonight,
here's Russell and Syracuse. Hi Russell, Welcome to the show. Hey Rob,

(37:30):
thanks for taking my call. Ihave two points about this. The
county commissioner, I don't know ifhe can do this, but he should
just certify all the ones that wereprocessed and the ones that weren't anything coming
from Las Vegas, you knows,tainted, and I probably if it's coming
from Iron County, then it's probablymore of the conservative vote. So I

(37:52):
would have the Iron County Party chairgo after the county clerk and try and
figure what the heck's going on downthere, because that's absolutely ridiculous that you
know, and then this brings upMy other point is just like France got
rid of their mail in ballot becauseof this problem, and I don't understand

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why we can't be good neighbors withFrance and take their example. I mean,
it's absolutely ridiculous what our country isgoing on. Yeah, they all
I have to say, yeah,good day. All right, Russell,
thank you, and you're right.France, by the way, they do
not do mail in voting. Theydo not do electronic voting. I believe
it's all voting by paper and thevotes are counted fairly quickly and they have
the results. Now, we're amuch larger country than France, but why

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can't we do the same in thiscountry by paper ballot. They're a problem
with that. Let's go to Jodyand Or I'm and let her weigh in
on this tonight. Jody, howare you welcome to the Rod Arcuat show.
Hey, thanks. I've got twopoints that I want to make.
Number one, I wish more peopleunderstood that the primary party is your Democrat
versus your Republican, and a lotof voters don't understand that. Just like

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the previous callers stated, we haveun educated people just marking bubbles. So
that's my point number one. Mypoint number two, some counties have two
to three weeks by the time theyget their mail in ballot. Why are
we waiting till the thirteenth power tosend in our ballots. That's a good
point, Jody, You're absolutely right. You know why in fact are they
waiting anymore? These votes should comein. They should be counted so we

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know the winner. You know whatare we now two weeks past the primary?
We still don't have a winner inthe second congressional district. What on
earth is taking so long here inthe state of Utah. It's not fair
to the candidates and certainly not fairto the voters. Dave in Salt Lake
City has something to say about thistonight, Dave, how are you welcome

(39:42):
to the show? Its good?Earlier someone mentioned that mail in ballot is
for convenience, and so if youuse that logic, then you apply it
to other topics. We could say, well, it's a lot more if
we didn't have to have locks onthe doors of our house, or it'd
be more convenient, if we didn'thave speed limits, or it'd be more

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convenient. So that logic just doesn'thold any weight, especially when you're dealing
with the issue as critical as thevoting system. The other comment I wanted
to make is that if we requirepeople to reregister, even that every other
year, it would clean up thevoter rolls, which is another serious problem.

(40:30):
For example, my daughter moved outof state and we still got her
ballot for three more years, soit's that's a big mess. Anyway,
thank you, Yeah, I appreciateyour comments there, Dave. I'm not
sure how often you need to reregister. Maybe every two years is the way
to do it. Maybe if youjust isn't in the state, if you

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keep on voting, you don't haveto register again and you don't move.
Is that the rule. I believethat exists, So if you vote and
you aren't moving, you don't haveto reregis But I'm with Dave. I
always have questions about the voter rolls, and I have a similar story.
I had a son and his wifelived with us for a short time.
They moved out and for quite sometime, I'm not sure for how long

(41:12):
we kept on getting their ballats atour house. Would have been very easy
for us to cast ballots, wouldhave been very easy to break the law.
We didn't do it, but that'swhy we need a constant review of
the voter rolls. Back to thephones we go. Let's talk with Kay
in South Jordan tonight. On therod Ark kentcho How are you kay,
Thanks for joining us. I'm doinggreat. Thank you for taking my call.

(41:35):
So here's the thing that also reallybothers me is you know, you
can go online and it says,yeah, we received your ballot. Your
ballot was counted, but you can'tsee if it was recorded properly, like
it doesn't you don't. You can'tsay, okay, yeah, it looks
like I'd cast my ballot for thisperson or that person. And that to
me is just open for fraud.I mean, you know. And then
I went down to the audit andthat is just a joke. It's like

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it they do. Just do itfor transparency, they say, But they're
the one Viidre Henderson's office sends oversome boxes. They already know what's in
and they already know how they are. And then they pay people to sit
there and do a telly. Andthey've got the sheet that shows them what
the tellies are, and then theyjust sit there and do a telly.
It's not accomplishing anything. Nobody's actuallylooking at a ballot. It's just,

(42:21):
you know, it's just really tome, they just do these things to
make everybody feel like it's oh,this is safe and secure, when I
don't believe that it is. Andwhat they're what's going on with this whole
Kolbe Jenkins thing is outrageous because thereare these outstanding ballots, you know,
outstanding ballots that have not been counted, and that race is so close,
so close, and this is alife changing thing. This isn't just like,

(42:42):
oh, yeah, we'll give itto her this time, maybe better
luck for him. This is alife changing thing, you know, and
every vote should count, Yeah,they should. And they're separated by three
hundred and fourteen votes right now.It's an amazingly tight race. All right,
Kay, thank you very much.All Right, more of your calls
coming up right here on the rodArk Kent Show and Utah's Talk Radio one
oh five nine, Kay, andare as right now we're taking your calls
about this controversy surrounding mail in ballotingin Iron County. Apparently one of the

(43:07):
county commissioners learned, I think heposted on social media last week that some
four hundred ballots had not been countedin that county simply because there was a
mix up on the postmark dates.Apparently it went through Las Vegas, the
Sorts Center there and somehow it gotmarked on a day that made four hundred
of those ballots not to be ableto be used in the election, the

(43:30):
primary election. We're getting your reactionto that, and what's going Let's go
on, Let's go to the phones. Okay, I understand we have Paul
Cousins in Cedar City joining us onour newsmaker line to talk about this.
Paul, how are you welcome tothe rod Arquet Show? Hi? Ron,
how are you good? Paul?You brought this up and to raise
some questions, can you give usthe latest on what has happened here.

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We just had a special commission meetingor canvassing board meeting four o'clock and it
was a two to one vote.I voted against certifying election. I still
think that we've disenfranchised about four hundredand fifteen voters in Iron County. They
did I believe, I believe allof those ballots should count based on some

(44:15):
anecdotal evidence. I tried to getthe Attorney General's office, or not Attorney
general, but Lieutenant Ever's office,to extend the deadline so that we could
investigate this a little further. Andthat was that was shot down. But
it's just unfortunate we got We've gotvoters in Iron County that did everything we're
supposed to do. They took theirballots in some of them the twenty first,

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a lot of them took them intwenty second, twenty third, twenty
even some one the twenty fourth.So they hand delivered them inside the post
office, you know, all daylong. And none of those were counted.
And our mail was shipped to LasVegas. Our mail was shipped to
Las Vegas and returned and I believethey missed up. And Paul, that's

(45:02):
very sad. I mean, you'vegot one about four hundred and five people.
That race down there is very close. I mean, it could make
a real difference in this race,couldn't it, Paul? It could.
And that's not why I'm doing this. I'm not doing this for political reasons.
I just want I'm getting a lotof feedback from my constituents. They
want to vote to count. Wehad a woman in our meeting yes well

(45:22):
yesterday in our commission meeting, ourCanvassy meeting, in our commission meeting that
was sobbing because she's voted for eighteenyears straight and they've taken that away from
her, and that's not okay.Yeah, but at this point, the
vote has been certified. There's reallynothing more that could be done about it.
Is that right, Paul? No, that's my understanding. Wow,

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Paul, thanks for calling in andgiving us an update on this. Hopefully
you'll get straightened out or this won'thappen again. I hope. So.
I hope the legislature changes. Ihope they go into in person voting and
opt in if you need a ballot. Yeah, all right, all right,
Paul. Paul Cousins, he's thecounty commissioner. They're in Iron County,
called into the show, heard ustalking about this, and they voted

(46:06):
two to one today to certify thevotes. Even though it's Paul mentioned,
they're about four hundred and five votersout there who thought everything was okay,
who put their ballot in and nowthey're being told their vote will not count
because they were not the postmark onthem was not correct. Those ballots went
through Las Vegas, and we aren'tblaming the postal service down there. But
my question again is maybe lawmakers willchange this. Why are we sending mail

(46:30):
to other states if it's involved inan election into what has really turned out
to be a busy Tuesday afternoon.I'm just looking at President Trump, former
President Trump. He is speaking toa rally there in Durrel, Florida.
I think Marco Rubio is there todayand he's expected to speak. He's one
of the several contenders being mentioned tobe Donald Trump's running mate. Trump telling

(46:55):
the audience right now that the RepublicanParty is stronger than ever. There is
some devastating news tonight polling information forthe Trump canpaign. Before I go to
my next guest, and I wantto bring that up. Electoral College ratings
in six states have now shifted towardRepublicans in former President Donald Trump's favor.

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As the fate of Joe Biden's politicalfuture as the Democratic nominee remains on shifting
sands right now, I think theCook Political Report shifted three states Arizona,
Georgia, and Nevada from toss upto lean Republican and shifted two other states,
Minnesota and New Hampshire, from likelyto lean Democratic. Spokesman for the

(47:37):
Cook Report, Dave Wasserman, isquoted as saying today Donald Trump has a
clear advantage over Biden and a muchmore plausible path to two hundred and seventy
electoral votes. All right, let'stalk about Joe Biden for a little bit.
A lot has been said about JoeBiden over the last couple of weeks
following the debate with Trump on Junetwenty seven. People over the years have

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talked about Joe Biden, that he'sa decent, honest man. He has
spent what forty seven years in theSenate before he became the vice presidential choice
for Barack Obama. But is hein fact that decent of a man?
Well. Joining us on our Newsmakerline to talk more about that is Joe
Tobin. Jonathan, I'm sorry,Jonathan Tobin. He's editor in chief of

(48:22):
the Jewish News Syndicate and he wroteabout Joe Biden the decent man. Jonathan.
How are you welcome back to theRod Arcuat show. Well, thanks
very much, Ron, thanks forhaving me on. Jonathan. You know,
everybody talks about how decent a guyJoe Biden is. In fact,
is he that decent of a man? Well? I think the aftermath of

(48:44):
that disastrous debate, Democrats are dividedabout whether he can serve whether he can
win for them. But they're allrepeating the same line about how great a
president he is, you know,even as there's you know, and how
nice a guy he is, evenas they're gonna slipping the knife between his
shoulders. But I think we haveto take a step back from that and

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examine the career of this lifetime politician, and it is full of really not
very decent acts, lies, anda lot of really nasty stuff. So
I think, you know, they'retrying to contrast Biden. He's a good
guy. Trump is a terrible person. And you know, there are plenty

(49:27):
of things to be said about DonaldTrump's you know, private life. He
doesn't you know, we all knowthat. In fact myself, when he
first started to run, I thoughtnobody who spent the last thirty years living
on the gossip pages of the NewYork tabloids could possibly be elected president.
Obviously, you know, you know, But obviously that was as much as

(49:47):
I knew. But so sure,there's you know, but Donald Trump has
never pretended to be a saint.He revels in his bad boy reputation.
I think a lot of voters likehim because he's so open about that.
Well, the fact. They likedthe fact that he trolls his opponents and
drives them crazy, and they enjoythat. But if you look through Biden's

(50:07):
record, it's a lot of reallyunpleasant things. Even those things that are
most tragic, that are associated withhim where he's most sympathetic, there's something
in there that's really not very nice. His wife, his first wife,
and one of his children was killedin a terrible traffic accident right after he

(50:28):
was first elected to the Senate innineteen seventy two, fifty two years ago.
I meant, you know, thehorrible thing, unimaginable. But he
then spent the next thirty years sayingthat the other driver in that accident was
drunk and that he basically murdered hiswife and child. Now, the facts
of that case were quite the contrary. Nobody was drunk, and in fact,

(50:51):
his late wife tragically drove into thepath of the guy driving the truck,
and that guy had to labor underthe the lies you know that Joe
Biden told about him because it madehim, you know, more simple.
You know, why did he doit? Did it make a better story,
did it make him more sympathetic?And you know he lived, you

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know, he died about twenty yearsago, and his daughter, the other
driver, asked Biden to apologize,and he never apologized publicly, even though
he had repeatedly said things that weren'ttrue. He didn't intervene in other things
where his brother, you know,nearly killed someone in a in a another
traffic accident which he was clearly atfault and defaulted on the payment to the

(51:39):
family of the victim. And theyappealed to Senator Biden, who had become
a fairly wealthy man in public service, which is another aspect of his bad
record, and he didn't lift afinger. He didn't even reply to them
personally. And then we get intohis history of life, saying about his

(52:00):
own life, his plagiarism in lawschool and in his presidential campaign in nineteen
eighty eight when he was driven fromthe campaign. He still insists that it
was all not true, even thoughwe all know it was true. It
is true, Jonathan, What abouthis meanness when it comes to his political
life and how he treats maybe evenhis colleagues, but his opponents when it

(52:22):
comes to politics. What can youshed light down in that regard? You
know, this dates back to whenhe was chairman of the Judiciary Committee in
the nineteen eighties, and he assistedin the slander of Robert Bork, who
was, you know, a distinguished, a conservative federal judge, whom Joe

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Biden had already said was highly qualifiedand would be confirmed if he was nominated.
Yet when the rest of the DemocraticParty decided they wanted to sort of
make Bork a sacrifice, turn hisname into a verb. As a matter
of fact, you know, toborch someone means to unfair really, you
know, slander them in public,as Ted Kennedy did, and as Joe

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Biden did, and he destroyed thecharacter of that really great jurist on just
for purely partisan matters. He assistedin the slandering of Clarence Thomas. Oh
yeah, during that confirmation hearing let'sface it. Also, he is the
master of accusing his opponents of theworst possible things. Can we forget back

(53:25):
in twenty twelve when he said thatMitt Romney, not not you know,
Mitt Romney of all people, wasgoing to put black people in change if
he was elected president, I mean, can you top that? And you
know, and when we're not evengetting to the fact that he he treats
all of Donald Trump's supporters as ifyou know, they're fascists and that their

(53:51):
enemies of democracy. And you know, he lied about his sons, his
son's laptop. You know, thelies never stopped. That's the whole thing
they keep saying. Well, Trump, you know, Biden may be non
compassmentus, but Trump lies. Well, whether he's got it all together or
not, Biden is always lying.He is, you know, as bad

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an example of a politician who's willingto say anything about his opponent. Now
you know this, this doesn't evengo to the questions that we're now debating.
You know, quite frankly, ifhe can't debate, if you can't,
if he can't be a viable candidate, how you know who's in charge
in the White House. You knowthe excuse that the White House gives us
that he's only at his best fromten to four. Ten in the morning,

(54:35):
four in the afternoon. Wouldn't weall like those hours? It was
just you know, unfortunately, he'slike remember Hillary Clinton saying that she was
ready for the three am bone call. Well, there better not be any
crises at three am while Joe Bidenis president. You know what what is
it about Biden, Jonathan that asyou mentioned, you know, Trump can
come out and say, look,I'm not perfect. You know, my

(54:57):
life has not been a sterling life. I've made mistakes here. I don't
know if I've ever heard Joe Bidenadmit that. Have you ever heard anything
like that coming out of Joe Biden? Never, let me tell you I
have. You know, when hewas in the Senate, I met him,
I spoke to him, you know, and he could be very charming
when he wants to be. Buthe's also a little bit like if I

(55:19):
wanted to describe him, at leastBiden as he was then when he had
no stutter and you know, hadno trouble you know, putting sentences together.
You know, he had the theIrish would say, you know,
kiss the Blarney stone. You know, he was like the character in the
old sitcom Cheers Cliff the Mailman,you know, the guy who sit at
the end of the bar and hasan opinion about everything even though he doesn't

(55:42):
really know much about anything. Thatwas that. That was Joe Biden when
he had his marbles. Why didhe get away with it? Because he
is brazen, because he is youknow, a Democrat and the and the
you know, the mainstream forward mediais willing to lie about him. They

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love him because, you know,he was the opponent to Donald Trump.
He beat Donald Trump in twenty twenty, makes them, you know that they
think he should be on Mount rushmore. No matter how disastrous his presidency has
been on every level, he getsaway with it because he is brazen,
because he poses as a as acaring man. You know, he talks

(56:24):
constantly about his own tragedies, andhe has He's had more than his share
of tragedies in his life, andwe should all feel sympathy for him about
you know, the accident that killedhis wife and infant child, and his
son's death by cancer. No,he did not die in Iraq, as
Joe Biden continually says, But it'salways about him. That's the narrative.

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That's always how it's been about his, his greatness, his sorrow. He
never you know, as a journalist, you know, I know that everybody
you meet when you interview them,they're all the heroes of their own novels,
but maybe nobody more than Joe.You know, he has the sheer
willingness to fabricate stories, even themost incredible stories about his own life,

(57:09):
his background, you know, beingarrested as a civil rights protester when he
never did anything like that. Youknow, it's just endless. It's hard
to keep track of all the lies, and yet the media keeps telling us
that Trump's the liar. Trump iscertainly cavalier with the truth when he wants
to be. And you know,the thing is a lot of the time

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he's clearly doing it just to geta rise at it, which I'm not
defending that. But Joe Biden believeshis lies. He told them so many
times. You know, he's likethat fellow who just keeps telling a false
story and by the end, youknow, after a while, he just
thinks it's true. Yeah, Jonathan, I love the Cheers comparison because it

(57:52):
is so spot on when you're thinkingabout Joe Biden. You're right, that's
a great comparison. Jonathan. Alwaysgreat to have you on the show.
Thanks for joining us tonight. Thankyou for having me all right on our
Newsmaker line here on the rod ArKenthow that's Jonathan Tobin. He is with
the Jewish News Syndicate talking about thefact that Joe Biden is not, I
repeat, not a decent man hereon Utah's Talk Radio one oh five nine

(58:15):
K and R as well, thereis a very subtle invitation being expended or
extended, I should say, tothose who are paying attention to the twenty
twenty four race to become president ofthe United States, there is a desire
by progressives, Democratic operatives, partybosses, their lapdogs, in my opinion,

(58:35):
to suddenly forget all the stressors thatwe're going through in life in America
today, like the economy, illegalimmigration, and crime, and instead to
focus on Joe Biden and his mentaland physical health. It's a distraction,
but the race doesn't change one thing. It doesn't change the sum three hundred
government three thousand, I should say, government operatives that really dictate what goes

(59:00):
on in this country, the bureaucracy, the deep state that Donald Trump is
always talking about, Well, let'slearn more about that. Joining us on
our Newsmaker Line right now is Kevinand McCullough, nationally syndicated host and podcaster.
Kevin, You're right about the factthat the race doesn't change how you
know, how do we deal withthe three thousand democratic or bureaucratic operatives because

(59:23):
they really control life in America.How do we change that or can we
even change at Kevin Well, that'sa that's a good question. And I
think that one of the dangers thatthat we have the ability to kind of
be seduced into, kind of lulledinto right now is that the Democrats are
wanting to have a food fight,and they're part of the cafeteria, and

(59:45):
we need to like not have anypart of it. What we need to
be doing while they're while they're havingtheir spitball match over off in the corner
about who's gonna run and who's notgoing to run, and you know,
all the all the rationale behind allof that argument. It's very fast and
eating. It is very interesting.But meanwhile, the American worker is still
paying five dollars a gallon for gasin the cheapest places, seven eight dollars

(01:00:07):
for gas in the most expensive places. They're still trying to buy milk for
you know, six to nine dollarsa gallon. They're still trying to buy
eggs for about eight dollars a carton. And at the end of the day,
the crime in our neighborhood from illegalimmigration and the push to defund our
police is making us less safe.The insistence upon these these price increases,

(01:00:32):
which is what they insist upon.When they don't let us get our own
energy out of the ground, theydon't let us do the thing. They
try to tack small businesses, regulateus to death. They're increasing the inflation
and the cost of everything in ourlives when they're attacking our safety, when
they're attacking our money, and whenthey're attacking our children by letting, you

(01:00:52):
know, boys play on the girls'sports teams and be in their locker rooms
and be in their showers. There'sno private safe spots for women anymore.
When they're attacking our safety, attackingour money, and attacking our families.
We have to make sure that theAmerican people don't get distracted by the spitball
match that's going on over there.And yes, it's a three thousand member

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administration that we're electing, not justthe guy at the top of the ticket.
Although the guy at the top ofthe ticket's important because he sets the
tone. He says, I'm goingto stop illegal immigration, I'm going to
back the blue I'm going to makesure that we regulate small businesses in such
a way that they're not burdened bythe regulations. I'm going to make sure
that your kids are safe. Thatguy at the top of the ticket matters.

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But what we have to do ifwe don't want Joe Biden and the
group that's in control there now,we can't get involved in their spitball fight
and they're part of the cafeteria.We have to stay on message, and
we've got to talk to the votersbecause at the end of the day,
the voters are looking for what's goingto impact them. They couldn't care less
about who's president either. What theywant is lower gas prices. They want
to stafer country, and they wanttheir kids left alone. Kevin, I

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would assume may be incorrect in thisassumption that the three thousand government personnel that
you're talking about are mostly democratic.So when you have a Republican at the
head, you know, a presidentwho is a Republican at the time,
do they respond to what he wantsor do they just kind of slowing things
down so that a lot of changesaren't made. No, that's the beauty

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of an election and changing parties inour country, is that when you send
Joe Biden home and the three thousandpeople that he's appointed on his watch.
You get to replace all those people. So Donald Trump gets to bring in
three thousand people that view the worldthe way he does and will do what
he asks them to do. That'sthe beauty of how American democracy works.

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Let's talk about the distraction that theDemocratic Party is working on right now with
the focus on Biden and the constantfocus on Biden right now. Do you
foresee that changing anytime between now andthe election. I think Biden wants it
to be stopped because I think he'she's This is the really funny part of
it that the entire government apparatus isnot of this administration's making for this president.

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And what I mean by that isnormally the administration does the will of
the guy that is the president.But in this case, it was the
Obama apparatus that propped up Joe Bidento become president. And he's played his
part this whole time, with theexception of the last two weeks and when
he said no, I'm not goingto step aside, I am going to

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stay in the race, then thisis the one time that he's exercised independence
from that apparatus that was put inplace around him. He wants that debate
to go away because he doesn't wantto leave the race, and he wants
it to quiet down so that hecan get back to what he thinks he
needs to do, which is attackingDonald Trump. At the end of the
day, they have a real problembecause the people that are actually running the

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country making the actual decisions, arenot the same person who people are going
to be voting for. And they'regonna have a rough convention. They're gonna
have a rough path here. They'regonna have to come up. And even
if they could get him to agreeto step aside, ballot access in states
across the country, in large measurehas already passed. Deadlines have already gone

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by, and you can't just goback and go, well, our guy
doesn't want to be on the ballotanymore, we want to put somebody else
on there. There's rules about howthat goes state to state. In addition
to that, you've also got theprinciple of alienating your voters who said this
is the guy that they want torepresent them going forward, and you're gonna
deal with goodwill with your own constituencies. The Democrats are not in a good
spot Republicans are in a great spotbecause they just need to go out and

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say, give us a chance tohave a shot at fixing these problems,
and we will do it like wedid it in the first Trump administration.
We'll get to work on day oneand we won't rest until they're fixed.
Can the operatives, though, Kevin, do you think who are not of
Joe Biden's camp, The operatives ofObama's camp and maybe even the Clinton camp
somehow put enough pressure on Biden nowto get him out. Or is he

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just going to say I'm not goinganywhere, which he had said the last
couple of days. I thought thatthey were going to be able to pressure
him to get out. But thatletter to Congress last night was defiant.
And what you have seen is actuallythe opposite. You've seen congressional members that
had gone out on the record nowbacktracking their statements. Jerry Nadler being foremost

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among them. He came out todayand said I was wrong. Joe Biden
is our nominee. AOC has alreadycome out and said he's her nominee.
These AOC is a power player ofthe New Democratic Party. Jerry Nadler is
an elder member of the old DemocraticParty. You've got leaders kind of both
wings that are now saying we're goingto stick with Biden. I think it's

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going to be hard for the Clintonor Obama team to remove him at this
point. Syndicated podcaster Kevin McCullough joiningus on The Rod Or Can't Show and
Utah's Talk Radio one O five tonine. Ken rs got more Field.
Scott, of course, is acolumnist at town Hall, writing about a
nightmare scenario for Republicans if Joe Bidenbacked out of the rates and Scott is
Joe Us on our newsmaker line,Scott, I want to get your opinion,

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first of all, during all thisdust storm that has been created by
Joe Biden and questions about his mentaland physical health, what is the GOP
doing right now? Are they doingsomething right? Well? What the Repoking
Party should be doing is nothing atall to help them replace Boden. They
are in a pickle, they knowit. I expect them to be successful,

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though I hope that they're not successful. I'm hoping that maybe it's too
late really to get something going,but technically it's not. And I'm just
afraid they're going to be able tomake it happen, but now we should
do nothing to help them. Anda lot of people are saying, oh,
it's for the good of the country. We can't be run by a

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walking corpse. But we've never he'sbeen. Yeah, he's worse, Okay,
but he's been this way the wholetime. Yeah, everybody knows that
Biden's not running things. There's peoplerunning things. I think we'll be okay
for a few more months and seeif we can pull this off with Biden,
because if we don't, then that'swhere you get into the night mere

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scenarios. Well, let's talk aboutthose nightmare scenarios that you're right about,
Scott. If Biden does get out, what is you know, let's take
Michelle Obama out of the mix,because she's indicated, at least to this
point, she's not interested. Ifshe's not in the mixed mixed, what
is the biggest nightmare for Donald Trumpand the Republican Party with another candidate?
Who would that be? Okay,yeah, great question. The biggest Kno.

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Mayor, and I mentioned this inthe column, I would say,
is somebody in the vein of MarylandGovernor Wes Moore or an Andy Basheer.
So he doesn't mean check the diversityboxes this year, doesn't. But some
reasonably moderate governor that doesn't come offas a complete leftist nut job like somebody

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like that could really do some damageand they would be a breath of fresh
air to the middle America voters rightnow. And I think what you've got
is you've got a percentage of voterswho are going to vote for Trump no
matter what. But you have thereason Trump's leading in the polls is you
have this five to ten percent ofindependence in middle of the road voters who
are especially their support for Trump becauseof Biden, because Biden is so historically

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bad. And that's what I mean. I knew he would be bad.
I don't think I knew he wouldbe this bad. And I've always said,
you know, I've written before thatI didn't think Trump had a shot.
I do think Trump has a shotagainst Biden. But you bring in
something like a Wes Moore or somebodylike and to share somebody that's just reasonbly
moderate, not crazy, that isarticulate young. I mean, the first

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party, the change from the octogenariantrain, is going to win this thing.
In general, that would be thenightmare scenario. Now you might come
to your next question, it maybe like, what's the likely scenario?
And I would say that the Lacklesscenario is Kamala Harris and we have a
shot there, but it's not asbig a shot, I think, as

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we do against Biden Scott. Ifyou if you put in a moderate like
Handy Basher or Wes Moore, whoyou've been talking about, what would the
progressive wing of the Democratic Party,which I think is running the party now
accept somebody who's kind of center left. Yeah, that that's the question they

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might to win. It's interesting theleft, as you saw in France.
We saw this in France, likethe left uh has this uncanny tendency to
uh our ability to unite just todefeat the right. So if they're faced
with the specter of a possible Trumpwin, which they are now, I
think they would do it. Butyeah with more Now, if you look

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at Wes Mora, most of hisphysicians are pretty left wing. He's just
he's more of a corporate you know, democrat, So he's he's not gonna
I don't think it's complete socialist,you know, but he has all the
leftist positions that they can look atand say, yeah, you know,
he's one of us. But likeI said, he's just articulating. He

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doesn't come across as a complete nutjob like you know, like most of
them, like Kevin News or something. You made an interesting point like in
Friends you you talked about the factthat the left all of a sudden was
able to unite and regain control ofthe French government. Here in the US,
the left can do the same thingas well. Why can't people on
the right unite and defeat somebody likeJoe Biden. What's wrong with the right?

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That's a that's a really really goodquestion. I think it's maybe just
our tendency toward individualism, and wehave this it's like every faction of the
right thinks that every issue we we'repuurists in a lot of sense. I
think it's it takes a lot toget out of that, even like on
an issue lack abortion. You know, there's a lot of friends that were

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fellow the Santis supporters. They're justabsolutist on abortion, you know, and
they just they're not going to unitewith anybody who's not absolutely pro lives.
And it's like and they were soupset about it not being in the platform,
you know, the publican party platform, but you know it's a losing
issue politically, and we just can't. It's like there we just I think
we're too principled as a as agroup and it's and we believe that our

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principles are correct and it's not worthuniting and we're just not pragmatic like they're
pragmatic. And that's the thing aboutThat's what what makes them an effective political
force is they're just really really goodat that, and we're not good at
that at all. We're just soidealistic almost, and it's it's unrealistic and
it's going to cost us power andthen it's going to cost us freedom.

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Final question for you, Scott.You know it's been said you cannot unsee
what you've seen. The American peoplesaw Joe Biden on that debate and maybe
on that interview with ABC on Friday. Can they unsee what they saw with
Joe Biden and his performance and you'reseeing a man who is losing both his
cognitive and physical abilities. Can theAmerican people unsee that as they head to

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the polls? I don't think theycan. No, I don't think they
can either. I still think it'sgonna be close. I do, because
if they get stuck with him,they're gonna they're gonna move mountains and living
in the dead are gonna vote forthis guy, right Like it's like everybody's
gonna they're they're gonna do what theyhave to do or try to do what
they have to do. But butyeah, I think I think that Trump

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has a more than fifty percent shotnow winning if it's Biden, and that's
what they're so scared about, andthat's why I do think they'll remove him
or get him or convince him tobe removed. Uh, And I think
it'll probably be Harris, and that'llbe an interesting race if that ends up
being the case. I think wedon't need to underestimate their ability to galvanize

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around somebody and then you regardless,even if it's Harris, it's unlickable issue
is you remove the Octagearian complete walkingcorpse factor, and I think they can
galvinas around Harrison pull it off too. I think Trump's shot drops down to
maybe you know, thirty thirty fivepercent if it's Harris. I mean,
he still has a shot, butit's going to be tough. It's going

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to be tougher than the MAGA influencerson Twitter think it's going to be because
they tend to be super unrealistic.On our newsmaker line, Scott Morefield from
town Hall More coming up here onthe rod Arcuat Show. Jesse Kelly is
coming your way. Don't forget wingMan Wednesday with citizen Greg Hughes joining me
tomorrow at four right here on therod Arcat Show in Utah's Talk Radio one

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oh five nine k n rs.Sorry, that does it for us tonight,
Head up, shoulders back. MayGod bless you and your family in
this great country of ours. Enjoyyour Tuesday evening trend. Stay cool if
you can. We'll be back tomorrowat four