The Rod and Greg Show: Utah's New AG Derek Brown and Senator Mike Lee React to Election Outcome

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You didn't see this. This is this is late breaking news.
Greg we as Abby just reported late breaking news that
Susan Wilds has been named President Trump's chief of staff. Yes,
when he becomes what, I've got even more late breaking news.
You're ready for this?

Speaker 2 (00:13):
Yes?

Speaker 1 (00:14):
Trump has resigned from what. Trump has resigned.

Speaker 2 (00:19):
He's resigned to a winning resign.

Speaker 1 (00:21):
Let me let me read you his letter of resignation.
Are you ready for this?

Speaker 2 (00:24):
Yes?

Speaker 1 (00:25):
Please accept this letter as formal notice of my resignation
from my position at McDonald's, effective January twentieth, twenty five.
I got you, didn't.

Speaker 2 (00:36):
I well, you're coating past the man, did you know?
I wasn't sure where that was going.

Speaker 1 (00:41):
But it was a funny, funny.

Speaker 2 (00:43):
It's a necessary resignation letter because there were a lot
of as we're as now America is signaling detached elitists
down leftists who really wanted to let America's. You know,
he doesn't work there. You know, he's really not there.
You know it is he's not wearing a hairnet, and
that is a that is a health code violation. He
is he is just he's that isn't even have a

(01:04):
stage to everyone. I don't know if you know that,
but Donald Trump does not work there. That is a
staged event. Yeah yeah, well here, so he had to, like,
he had to clarify that for the detached, confused leftists
that were, you know, saying what they were saying.

Speaker 1 (01:16):
Here's a little bit of his letter. I love this,
he writes to the CEO, says, during my tenure here,
I've enjoyed the opportunity to serve our customers and contribute
to the fast paced environment of this establishment. From flipping burgers,
making fries and managing the drive through, I've learned a
lot both about the restaurant business and the value of
hard work. Can he answer this way saying thank you

(01:39):
for everything. I look forward to my next adventure. But
I leave with fond mem brees all my time and McDonald's.
I just love that the way.

Speaker 2 (01:47):
He wrote that he went into his filing cabinet and
found the resignation letters from from past employees, just coffee them.

Speaker 1 (01:55):
So breaking news tonight, Donald Trumps resigned from his position.

Speaker 2 (02:01):
Oh, I mean it was probably a pretty good gig.
I mean, the man loves if you just gave him
a gift certificate. If his work was just sweat equity.
He gets all the McDonald's he wants, he wins that.
That's like, that's a half a million dollars in year
job if he gets all the McDonald's he wants. He
told me in twenty seventeen. December twenty seventeen, I love
he likes Beau order in bulk. I know they won't.

(02:24):
They don't know who's who's ordering it, so I don't
know one's spitting in my food.

Speaker 1 (02:29):
We have got so much to get to today, and
let me tell you what. The left is melting down.
It is unbelievable what we're seeing around the country. The
late night talk show host last night, they just couldn't
handle it. We're getting a sorry libs of TikTok has
story after story and video after video. Will play some
of those for you as well. We've got a great

(02:50):
show lined up today and we have a very interesting
story coming out of none other than BYU. And no,
we are not talking about the upcoming Holy War this weekend.
There is a certain professor down there at BYU who
has decided to condemn voters who voted for a certain candidate.

(03:10):
Guess who that is.

Speaker 2 (03:11):
Yeah, and he's got all the scriptural reference to back
up this, this destruction and condemnation of those that voted
for Trump.

Speaker 1 (03:19):
This is a professor at BYU votes despite the fact
that the LDS Church the other day, the Church of
Jesus Christ of Latter day Saints, took time to congratulate
Donald Trump on his victory to become President of the
United States for a second time. But apparently a BYU
professor doesn't agree with that. Stand will read you this
letter he posted on his door and then get your

(03:40):
reaction to it a little bit later on in the show,
so you'll want to stay tuned for that. Now. As
I mentioned, we've got a great show lined up today.
Utah Senator Mike Lee, who I would think is a
pretty happy fellow right now, which which which question?

Speaker 2 (03:54):
Yes, sir, he's a pretty happy guy. I told you
you're scraping me off the ceiling. I'm so excited. I'm
so happy and and and he yes, he's gay. We
just heard that they're finally, they're they're giving a They're
they're they're calling the race for Senate in Pennsylvania for McCormick.
I would have told you after looking at what counties
were left. Philadelphia with votes to account that they would

(04:16):
have found the votes necessary to make up the gap
for Democrat incumbent uh case Bob Casey Junior. He wins it,
and I'm telling you that is just magical. I mean,
it's magical that at Cormick won it. And that is
just giving them a stronger majority in the in the Senate,
which frankly they need. Yeah, because you got like you
got Collins and you've got Markowski in there, and you know,

(04:38):
they can't decide every single day they wake up whether
the Republican or a Democrat. You need some rock ribbed,
common sense conservatives who just went through this this election.
So it's going to be fun.

Speaker 3 (04:48):
You know.

Speaker 1 (04:49):
Before the election, Greg and leading up, I mean for
the past several weeks, they've been talking about, well, it's
most likely the Republicans will gain control of the Senate.
They'll flip two seats, all right, And they thought that
too those two seats. Actually they flipped four, came real
close to flipping six. Correct. May still there may be
another rout there battle we maybe will have to move.

Speaker 2 (05:10):
I thought that the incumbent Democrat senator would have already
taken over Brown in that race, but he's still hanging
on to a slim, slim lead. But you got Clark
County in the county in Reno the count and they're
pretty well and Renos they're both blue. But Brown did
very very well in the county in Reno. I mean
he's very close.

Speaker 1 (05:29):
Yeah, he did very well. So we'll talk about that
with Mike Lee. Dave Owens will join us. Derek Brown,
who's about to become the new Attorney General for the
state of Utah, he'll join us a little bit later on,
and then it is amazing if you look at the
numbers of the Catholic vote, especially I think it was
in the area of Detroit. People were amazed that Donald
Trump did so well with the Catholic vote during this election.

(05:53):
And I wondered, Greg, did this have anything to do
with his decision to go to the Al Smith dinner
And she said.

Speaker 2 (05:59):
No, it had to inform that decision. Yeah, I think
it had some role, but yes.

Speaker 1 (06:05):
Yeah, you've been pouring over all kinds of numbers. Got
feel those numbers today as we start the show. But
we're on dig into a lot of this throughout the
day today right here on The Rodden Greg Show. But
you've got a few you want to share it, well,
I will.

Speaker 2 (06:18):
Hold off some of the exit polling. And when I
say exit polling, we're talking over one hundred and twenty
thousand voters that were asked questions after they cast their ballots.
It came from top Fox News. I went through those
exit poll questions. I've got that about those of faith
and membership of those identify as a member of a
particular faith, and if they chose Harris or Trump. Very

(06:41):
interesting breakdown there that we're going to share, and I
want to do it in the second hour when we
talk about the BYU story and then but right now
what I want to talk about. I see how much
time do we have? Okay, it's this young vote, yes
that I got to tell you right now, ladies and gentlemen.
This is something you don't see. Winston Church said, if

(07:02):
you're young and you're not a liberal, you don't have
a heart. If you're older and you're not a conservative,
you don't have a brain. I'm going to tell you
right now, are young people they have hearts and brains.

Speaker 1 (07:10):
All of a sudden, Where'd that come from?

Speaker 4 (07:11):
Did you remember?

Speaker 2 (07:12):
On election Day we had Maddie from provo. She called
used she was a young voter, first time voter, and
she talked about her experience as a high school student
during COVID and how that informed her opinion about self
determination and liberty and what the government was doing with
such a heavy hand. And she really laid out this
case of why we could expect young people like herself,
and she said her friends and others were going to

(07:34):
come out everything. If we could go back to her
as a caller, everything she said has come true. Yes,
I am telling you that we are seeing numbers that
you've never seen before in terms of the number of
our youth vote that came out in strong support for
Donald Trump. And usually the young people A either don't vote,
they're very liberal, or they're liberal. In West exit exit

(07:55):
polls in Wisconsin had fifty two percent of the eighteen
to twenty four year olds voting for Trump over Harris
fifty two to forty five percent. In Michigan fifty two
eighteen to twenty nine year olds fifty two percent Trump
forty six percent Harris. Now in those two states that
young people A voting and B voting in those kind

(08:16):
of numbers for Donald Trump and voting Republican You just
don't usually see it. A great clip of Auburn University
when Donald Trump was announced the winner in the wee
hours of the morning, and you had in their student
square section spontaneously all these students came out and they
sang the national anthem and USA, USA. You show me,
especially with these professors, these this academia that we got

(08:39):
to endure, show me where young people are that engaged.
And I want to go back to the North Carolina
incident where these young people saw the American flag being
trounced on and they just said boys, frat boys. Yeah,
the frat boys. They're like, you know what, We're not
going to put up with this. And they went and
they protected that flag and they stood around it, and
it became I'm telling you, courage is contagious. Yes, And

(09:01):
I really believe that that really showed young people that
they don't have to just cast a blind eye. They
can actually stand up for the things they believe in.
And you kind of saw this thing build momentum from there.
Then you go to the long form podcast, You go
to the comedians that had been censored by Saturday Night
Live and everybody else, and they just push back, and

(09:22):
they push back in an amazing way. I can honestly
tell you that our young voters might be the big
difference maker in this election, and especially when you look
at how close Wisconsin and Michigan were. I think the
young people, which you've never seen before a come out
and then be come out for the Republican candidate, and
this time Donald Trump. Young people are making their voices
heard in a big, big way, and I think that's

(09:42):
worth noting and pointing out and celebrating.

Speaker 1 (09:45):
Great for the country as well. All Right, Like I said,
we have got a lot to get to today. When
we come back. Utah Senator Mike Lee will join us
a little bit later on political consultants, trying to just
Dave Owens, we'll check in and give us his take
on what's going on with this election. Again, big news today,
Susan Wilds has been named the chief of staff. It's
a first for the incoming president President ELECD Donald Trump.

(10:07):
So we've got a lot to get to today. What
a big election this has been for the Republican Party
and when it comes to the Utah at the US Senate,
it is absolutely amazing. That's why we wanted to bring
on our next guest and talk about it. Utah Senator
Mike Lee. Mike, how are you welcome to the Rod
and Greg Show?

Speaker 5 (10:22):
Doing great good to be WIT's on the Rod and
Greg Show today.

Speaker 1 (10:25):
As always, Mike, what I tell you what? Before the
election everyone was talking about just flipped two seats. The
Republicans have now flipped four, maybe a fifth, and came
close to flipping two others. What a night for the
Republicans in the Senate.

Speaker 6 (10:39):
What happened, Mike, the big night for the Republicans.

Speaker 5 (10:43):
Look, the American people caught win. They caught wind to
the fact that there's Democrats have jumped at the shark.
They've gone way too far. They've crammed this socialism thing
down our throats for too long. It's inflated our currency.
Every dollar we now earned by less, and they're tired
of it. They're ready for something new. They also saw

(11:03):
that the law Fair was offensive to the American sensibilities
that we've developed over the left two and a half
centuries and had enough. And they rewarded Donald Trump with
the presidency, and they rewarded Republican Senate candidates with seats.
And it's going to make a big difference. I can't
wait to swear in the new con Congress and to

(11:26):
see President Trump inaugurated as America's forty seventh president.

Speaker 2 (11:31):
Senior Senator from Utah, Mike Lee. Thanks, Look, this is
what I This is what I want to ask you.
Well before even that's that you're running from Majority leader.
How's it looking? Yeah, I'm not even asking if you're
righting for a joy leader. I demand that you run
for Majority leader of the US Senate, and I just
want to know how is that effort going.

Speaker 5 (11:52):
Well. I can tell you this, Greg, I am hosting
an event next week, next Tuesday, in the evening, just
before the day before everybody's votes, hosting at events for
everybody running for leader. At this point, we've got only
three candidates, and I want to make sure that our
Republican Senators have every opportunity to ask every question they

(12:15):
want involve the candidates. And I'm confident that some good
is going to come out of it. What I'm looking for,
first and foremost is somebody who's going to offer up
their vision, their vision for how they will advance the
Republican policy agenda and also how they're going to handle
things procedurally within our conference so as to make every
Republican senator matter, every senator matter. We've had a Senate that,

(12:37):
for too long, under Chuck Schumer and Mitch McConnell, has
been locked down. The ability to offer up improvements to
bills in the form of amendments has been curtailed, and
that's got to stop. And I'm confident that our next
leader is going to be one who has a vision
for that and look forward to figuring out who that's.

Speaker 6 (12:54):
Going to be.

Speaker 1 (12:55):
Like there were a lot of us who felt when
Donald Trump was elected we did have control of both
the Senate in the House, but Mitch McConnell and Paul Ryan,
we're not really trying to help Donald Trump with his
agenda and getting things done. Do you get in a
sense it may feel a little bit different this time,
especially on the Senate side.

Speaker 7 (13:12):
Yes.

Speaker 5 (13:13):
First of all, we've added a number of senators since
Sam Senators who are much more in line for the
most part, with President Trump's vision. Secondly, we've seen several
election cycles in which we've seen that our voters really
want us to do something different. We've got a government
that's too big, it's too expensive, it's doing too many

(13:33):
things it was never intended to do, and they expect
real change this time around. We cannot afford to take
things slowly as we did in twenty seventeen, and as
we saw in twenty seventeen, you can't count on there
being more than that two year increment in which you
can work. Really a lot of this is going to
come down to the first one hundred days of the
Trump presidency. And that's another thing we're going to be

(13:55):
looking for in our next leader is who can offer
a provision for what that crucial hundred days looks like.

Speaker 2 (14:02):
So I just think we're in such an amazing moment.
I think there's a realignment in politics and the electorate
happening in real time. We're in the event still Trump.
In his election victory, you saw a plus a two
percent of women by of demographic, a plus three percent
increase of support with men, plus six percent increase by

(14:25):
from non college educated voters. Hispanic voters were, plus six
black voters, plus seven young voters. Is what I just
talked about in the samement before you came on, which
I'm so excited about. Plus ten Senator of young people
that are getting involved voting, which they typically don't, and
then voting for Trump. So here's my and then if
you go to rural America, it's he's up. He's up

(14:47):
in suburban America. He's cut the deficit in half in
urban America. This is not really an election based on
party as I see it, there is a movement happening
across this country. Here's what I want to know. I
don't know when it happened where big business and big
government merged, but that is the social engineering that I
think people have recoiled against. Whether it's DEI, whether it's

(15:07):
you know, Disney or others trying to push what the
education content ought to look like, or even have an opinion.
You're seeing all of that. You're seeing our food chain
and costs of groceries. Everything's going up, inflation's going where,
it's really making people suffer. Do your colleagues in the
Senate understand how Donald Trump got elected? Meaning this is

(15:29):
the everyday American? Now, this is everybody? Are they are
you going to govern as us? When you ask for
a future majority? Leader questions instead of having a Mitch
McConnell who doesn't help Ted crue a Senator Cruz or
a Senator Scott in Florida because he's not on the
you know, go along to get along the processes isn't
available to every senator. Do they understand that the American

(15:50):
people didn't necessarily pick Republican senators they are supporting Donald
Trump and those that sound like Donald Trump. Is that
message going to get across in the Senate? You know
my house guys, So I just worry about the House
of Lords? Is it going to are they? Are they
aware of that?

Speaker 7 (16:07):
Yes?

Speaker 5 (16:08):
Look, they're aware of it because they've seen it now
for multiple election cycles, and they've certainly seen it this
time around. Even those who were doubtful as to whether
don Trump would win this time they've now seen it.
They've seen it again and again, and they've seen that.
Our voters are fed up seeing that. When Mitch McConnell
came out a few weeks ago, it was trash talking

(16:29):
Republicans in the middle of the most important election cycle
probably of our lifetime as the sitting Republican leader. They're
disgusted by that, and they want something different, and I
think they're going to demand that when we reconvene next week.
I think that can be one of the questions that
these candidates get asked. Those wanting to serve as the

(16:50):
Republican leader, I think need to be asked, what do
you think about this our outgoing Senate Republican leader, trash
talking our GOP nominee as the sitting Senate Republican leader,
along with trash talking a number of incumbent Republicans.

Speaker 6 (17:08):
That's not cool.

Speaker 1 (17:10):
No, it certainly is not cool. Well, Mike, I know
you're busy, by the way, if this Senate thing doesn't
work out and you're looking for work, there is an
opening now at McDonald's because Donald Trump has just resigned
so from McDonald's, So there's an opening there, Mike, if
you're looking for one.

Speaker 8 (17:24):
Well, look, ro I can't begin to claim that I
could do so with the pizzazz, with the attention to
detail the general j Trump showed. But he's given us
a playbook now on how to do it and do
it well, so I will keep that apart.

Speaker 1 (17:38):
There you get, all right, Mike Lee, Mike, thank you
for joining us. Have a good day. Thanks Mike, thank
you all right? As you just Senator Mike Lee and
his lessons to what's going on hosting a big event
the night before the vit Senate. That's really interesting. All right,
We've got a whole lot more to get to here
on the Thursday edition of The Rod and Greg Show
and Talk Radio one oh five nine kN rs.

Speaker 2 (18:00):
So joining us to talk about this election, it's aftermath,
maybe some of the lessons learned. Is my friend and
uh the probably one of the strongest and smartest. I
hate saying this way he's listening. Uh, one of the
best political consultants and strategists that we have here in
the state of Utah. I've watched him set trigger the
liberal left in academia on fire. As a kid, I

(18:21):
watched him do it. It was beautiful. The one and only
Davo and Dave Joint thank you for joining us on
the Rodd and Greg Show.

Speaker 9 (18:30):
Implying that I'm older than you, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (18:32):
You're yeah, You're like You're like Rod, You guys in
dirt have a lot of have seen a lot of
the same things in life. Wow, you know, but I
will say that watching a BYU professor whip his ear
ear piece out on the Rod Deckers Take two and
just storm off of the set because you kept pushing
him and making him answer hard questions that that had

(18:53):
an impression on me as a young man. I just
admired the daylights out of that. So so I hope
it contribute good or bad it has. But look, look
at this election we just had. I mean, would what
would be the great Dave Owens takeaway from the election?
Popular vote? The popular vote with California is what's going

(19:15):
on here?

Speaker 1 (19:16):
I didn't see that Covin.

Speaker 9 (19:17):
Yeah, I knew it would be close, but I didn't
I didn't see that coming. Let me say this, and
I've texted to a bunch of friends over the past
few days. Roosevelt thirty two, in thirty two, Reagan in
eighty eighty four was bigger, but the but the thing
started in eighty Trump twenty four and what's more, those
are all seminal elections in the last.

Speaker 10 (19:39):
Hundred years in America.

Speaker 9 (19:40):
And what's more, Trump twenty four is bigger than what
Trump twenty would have been.

Speaker 11 (19:46):
Do you agree with that?

Speaker 6 (19:47):
I do, I absolutely, You see what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (19:51):
Yeah, and David, I think you're good. No, No, you well,
I think the reason is you almost had to let
the American public seat. If you let these Democrats they
had the Senate in the House for those first two years.
You let them do what they want to do and
run their agenda. It runs this country into the ground,
and they had to own it. You would have never
seen that in a second term with President Trump.

Speaker 6 (20:13):
No.

Speaker 9 (20:14):
But here's the beauty of it. It's actually going to
be a stronger contrast now because we know if Trump
would have been president in twenty the natural momentum of
things is that in the next time around the country
would have voted for a Democrat. And I'm hoping that
this will break their back. I've been saying for a
long time. I'm sure you've heard me say it. There

(20:35):
are tectonic shifts taking place in the elector right now,
and they really did come to bear on Tuesday night.
If you don't mind, I've got a few thoughts I
want to just kind.

Speaker 1 (20:46):
Of throw out there too.

Speaker 9 (20:49):
And this is a little bit of credit to RFK Junior,
but because it's where I first heard the stat in
twenty twenty, twenty twenty was a fifty.

Speaker 1 (20:57):
To fifty election.

Speaker 9 (20:58):
You know, you can debate who came out on all
that kind of stuff, but it was it was a
split election nationally, and RFK Junior pointed out that the
fifty percent that voted for Joe Biden holds seventy percent
of the wealth in this country, which left thirty percent
for the fifty percent that voted for Donald Trump. And

(21:21):
that's fascinating. So where did the seventy percent or the
fifty percent that have the seventy percent come from. Well,
they're the billionaires and the tech moguls and the hedge funds, and.

Speaker 1 (21:31):
These guys are richer.

Speaker 9 (21:32):
They make Rockefeller, JP Morgan, all those guys look like pikers.
And so there's a tremendous amount of money in the
elites that are funding the Democrat Party. And then the
rest of it is the fully dependent on government and
there are a couple of different levels of that. One
is welfare, of course, you know that's kind of it.

(21:53):
But the other one is all the government employees, all
the contractors, all the foundations that are basically funded.

Speaker 6 (22:02):
By the gun.

Speaker 9 (22:03):
You know this, Greg You know how big and deep
that is. And it's the reason five of the richest
counties in America surround Washington, d C.

Speaker 1 (22:11):
It's not because they make anything.

Speaker 12 (22:14):
Yeah, So.

Speaker 9 (22:17):
Here's the way I look at the last four years.
If you were if you were in that half that
holds seventy percent, you did okay, because basically after COVID
there was some growth there when Biden took off a
little bit of growth, and then they threw all that
money on top of it. And this year at least,
all growth that they've attributed to the economy has been

(22:38):
government spending. So if you're dependent on the government, you
think it's pretty good deal last four years. But if
you're in that other half, you are plumbers and contractors
and farmers and ranchers and radio folks, and you know,
all those kinds of people, and it hasn't been so great.
And so one of the things I really love is,

(23:00):
I do you know the Republican Party. I've said it
literally for decades. If there if the Republican Party is
not the party of the working class, it has no
other reason to exist. And it's taken a long time
for this too. But you look at the coalition that
Trump put together, and he completely shattered the coalition that
the Democrats thought they had.

Speaker 1 (23:21):
Welly, he sure did. Dave is always great chatting with you.
Appreciate a few minutes of your time, Dave. It's going
to be fun to see what happens in the coming
weeks and months. Thanks Dave, I was my pleasure. Bye bye.
All right, that's Dave Owen. He is a political strategyist,
a real good thinker on all of this, and interesting
statistic he brought up on what happened in twenty twenty.
You and I have got to debate this a little
bit later on. We're trying to figure out where twenty

(23:43):
million Democratic votes went this year. Yeah, they were around
in twenty twenty sixteen, but yeah, where'd they go?

Speaker 2 (23:49):
Biden got eighty one million votes, She got sixty five million,
And they're saying, well, and the bigger question is Trump.
They're saying, is his turnout is is historic and unprecedented.
It's less than what he got in twenty It's like,
I think I'm still down to you, Yes, by a
two million votes.

Speaker 1 (24:04):
Yeah, you are all right? More coming up here on
the Rod and Greg Joe in Utah's Talk Radio one
oh five nine K and R. I asked, always ready
to be with you? All right? Greg? Boys, have they
been I don't know how else to describe this. They
have been melting down all around the country today. Greg,
with this Trump victory on Tuesday.

Speaker 2 (24:22):
So it's just it has. I mean, I logged in
the wee hours of Wednesday morning mid night twelve thirty
to probably four am CNN. I've never watched so much
CNN in all my life. But I did it for
the comedy. I did it for watching them weep and
well knowing that the outcome has been determined. I usually
can't watch because I'm afraid people will believe them, and
it frustrates me, so I yell at the screen. But man,

(24:44):
I'm telling you, there's nothing funner than watching diluted leftists
lose their minds and just start turning on each other
and turn it on. I mean, they're just it's everyone's
fault but their own.

Speaker 1 (24:54):
Well, yesterday we were waiting to see, first of all,
what the view would say, and they all wore black
symbolic of a few. Well we know what they had
to say. Late night talk show host last night, all right,
I want to hear. Let you listen. This is Jimmy
Kimmel and how he responded to the Trump victory on Tuesday.

Speaker 4 (25:10):
Let's be honest, it was a terrible night last night.
It was a terrible night for women, for children, for
the hundreds of thousands of hard working immigrants who make
this country go for healthcare, for our climate, for science,
for journalism, for.

Speaker 1 (25:30):
Justice, or free speech.

Speaker 4 (25:32):
It was a terrible night for poor people, for the
middle class, for seniors who rely on social security, for
our allies in Ukraine, for NATO, for the truth and
democracy and decency. And it was a terrible night for
everyone who voted against him. And guess what, it was
a bad night for everyone who voted for him too.

(25:53):
You just don't realize it yet. Wow, is that ridiculous
or what?

Speaker 2 (25:57):
Yeah, he's just I mean again, they just live in
their own world. They got bubble, and you're not invited,
by the way into that bubble. I'm not either.

Speaker 1 (26:03):
The people want he just wanted to give me.

Speaker 2 (26:06):
We just had. He's convinced that he's got this. He
and his cronies have their socially engineered world down pat
and there is no freedom of self determination or liberty,
no equal outcome or they want equal outcome, not equal opportunity.
And that was all interrupted last night. That's why he's crying.
He had it all worked out for everyone, you know. Oh,
by the way, there are a lot of people You've

(26:26):
got a list to this one. We've got time for this, Yeah,
we do. This is a someone on libs of TikTok
threatening to move.

Speaker 6 (26:34):
Okay, so since Trump won the election, we're cooked up.

Speaker 1 (26:39):
I'm going to be leaving the US and I'm going
to be moving to Hawaii. So we'll see how it goes.

Speaker 2 (26:45):
Yeah, let's see how that jos kid.

Speaker 7 (26:49):
Hawaii.

Speaker 2 (26:50):
That's it, I would argue by that might feel like
a different you know, there's so heavily democrat there. It
might not feel like America, but it is still part.

Speaker 1 (26:57):
Of the Someone tell them were they the forty ninth
or fifty of state. I'm trying to remember. I can't
remember that. But Hawaii, by the way, kiddo, is a
part of the United States of America.

Speaker 2 (27:07):
And sorely disappointed way he lands.

Speaker 1 (27:09):
Yeah, well, when we come back, we'll talk to our
new attorney general. Laughs. Coming up, and then this by you, professor,
what he posted on his door, and get your reaction
to it. Hang on for this one, folks, is coming up.
You're up all night. You just soaked all this in
matt You never.

Speaker 2 (27:26):
Watched so much CNN and MSNBC in my life.

Speaker 1 (27:28):
Then how better?

Speaker 8 (27:29):
Now?

Speaker 1 (27:29):
One do you feel more well rounded, better educated?

Speaker 2 (27:33):
I feel entertained. I laughed even at four in the
morning by myself. I was laughing out loud. But but no,
I got a good night, trust And I'm now I
was doing this yesterday. I was ready to do this yesterday.
But I've been really staring at the at the cross
tabs and the numbers and the breakdown of demographics that
voted in this presidential election, and I'm so excited now.

(27:54):
I'm just so.

Speaker 1 (27:55):
Excited interesting information. Well, coming up, we've got a story
about a BYU professor or I think that we'll wake
a lot of people up about what's going down, what's
going on down at b YU. That's coming up in
a few minutes. But we're going to have a new
attorney General this year. Name that is familiar to many
of you. We're talking about Derek Brown, who is going
to replace Jean Reyes through a campaign did very well

(28:16):
in the election on Tuesday, and he's going to be
he's joining us right now. Derek. How why are you?
Congratulations to you, Derek.

Speaker 8 (28:23):
I appreciate that. And for Greg, I mean Tuesday and
Wednesday kind of melded together for me. It was Tuesday, Wednesday,
and today, so I haven't got a good night's sleep yet.
Well it's begins the Well, yeah, I think there's also
a caffeine uh, you know, detalks program I'm going to start,
but tomorrow, not today.

Speaker 12 (28:44):
Of course.

Speaker 2 (28:46):
I love it.

Speaker 8 (28:47):
Part of running a statewide campaign, a campaign.

Speaker 2 (28:49):
You know that, Rill, I sure do. Uh, Derek, we're
former colleagues. I saw your good work in the house.
You're a hard working public servant. I know that from experience.
Just give our listeners a little idea of what was
this campaign, Like, what did you hear and what's on
the to do list? Did you take over as Utah's
attorney general.

Speaker 8 (29:10):
Well, it was. It was a whirlwind of I mean,
going to about every county, every major city. The legislature
unfortunately moved up the filing deadline to January, so that
the campaign really did start, you know, the first week
of January and has been going through you know, the first.

Speaker 13 (29:27):
Week of November.

Speaker 8 (29:29):
So it's been exhausting, but just an amazing experience. And
everywhere I've gone, I mean, we have a lot of
the same themes that we hear over and over. I mean,
one of them, quite frankly, is just the the federal
government overreach. And it doesn't matter whether I talk to
corporations or legislators, or county commissioners, or people in rural
areas or I mean, everyone is concerned about the degree

(29:50):
to which the federal government has just on its own,
without authorization in many respects, just taking over. And so
that's one of the reasons that I'm thrilled to see,
you know, the election turn out the way it did,
because I think there's a lot that we can accomplish
as a state and as the attorney general. There's a
lot of opportunity out there now.

Speaker 1 (30:11):
Derek, of course, the offensive attorney general over the last
several years has had this share of controversy and its
share of dings, without a doubt, how do you change that?
Is it a culture change, a procedure change, a policy change.
How do you plan on addressing that?

Speaker 8 (30:26):
Derek, Well, I think it's a little bit of everything.
But one of the things that I think is important is,
and this is something that actually Greg and I worked
on in the legislature, is the idea of transparency. You really,
I think a lot of the concerns people have deal
with just not knowing and wondering if you're doing what
you say you're doing, and sometimes it's hard as an

(30:47):
elected official. And I know Greg and I work on
a number of bills that involves opening up the government
so that it's more transparent, more open, more accessible. And
I think that's just that's one of the things that
I'll do as Attorney General is create a series of
a transparency so the people know what I'm doing, and

(31:08):
when they know what you're doing, and when they see
success in the job that you're doing, I think trust
is it's just an outgrowth of that.

Speaker 2 (31:19):
So Derek, let me ask you this. This is an
issue that's near and dear to my heart that we
worked very hard on in terms of the legislature, lands,
public lands, and then our state's ability to manage our
lands and our communities. We had President Trump, after exhaustive process,
he sent then Interior Secretary Ryan Zinke to Utah touring

(31:40):
the area that Obama had made in National Monument Bears
Ears and so much work went into that, and they
reduced that significantly inappropriately and with a swoop of the pen.
When Biden got an office, he erased all of that work.
That President Trump came in December of twenty seventeen and
really signed that executive order shrinking that on the overall
issue of lands in Utah and our relationship with this

(32:03):
federal government and then specifically to Bears Eers. Do you
do you, as our attorney general have are you privy
to a plan? Is there something that you're looking at
to maybe restore the work that President Trump is done
in his first term. He called into the show by
the way on Caucaus night, he said he'd fix all
this once he got back. So I'm gonna I would
like to hold him to that, So you know, I will.

Speaker 8 (32:23):
I'll help you hold it to him. I help them
hold hold that line as well, because the reality is
there there are two things that can be done. One
obviously is litigation, because I believe I mean in instances,
I mean like with the Bears Eers monuments. While there
is obviously federal authority to protect certain things, there's also

(32:44):
a requirement in that federal law that says you you
draw a line around whatever it is to be protected
that's reasonable. Instead, you know, they drew a line that
was the equivalent of about you know the size of
the state of Delaware. Yes, right in the middle of Utah,
and so so I believe that the litigation is one
strategy where you can interpret what's called the Antiquities Act

(33:04):
in the way that you say that they have gone
outside their Congression authorization. But importantly, with President Trump now
in the White House, we know where he stands. And
one of the most important things, I mean in some
respects almost more important than who's in the White House
is who gets to appoint the individuals at all of
these agencies. There's about six thousand presidential appointments that are made,

(33:29):
and so many of them have to do with exactly
what you're talking about, Greg, because the individuals they got
appointed by President Biden and previously by President Obama didn't
listen to us. We said, hey, we can do this,
this is how we're going to do it, and they
basically said, thank you for your input, and we don't care.
The Trump appointments are going to be very different kinds
of individuals, and so I believe we can work with them,

(33:51):
and so litigation won't be our primary tool.

Speaker 1 (33:54):
Derek, again, congratulations to you. I know you've got a
lot of work in front of you. You have worked
very hard throughout the state. We appreciate you taking a
few minutes. I know we'll be talking more often down
the road. Thanks Derek, I look forward to it.

Speaker 8 (34:06):
Thanks for rovings.

Speaker 2 (34:07):
Greg, Hey, thank you all right.

Speaker 1 (34:08):
Derek Brown. He is an attorney general elect here in
the state of Utah and taking office in January. And
we'll be talking more to Derek in the coming weeks
and months, that is for sure. We have had quite
a show already today. Mike Lee joined us. Derek Brown.
We just talked to Derek. Dave Owen joined us.

Speaker 4 (34:26):
Now.

Speaker 1 (34:26):
We want to hear from you about this story coming
out of BYU and you shared this with me today. Greg.
We have a professor. He's a mathematics professor. His name
is David Cardon posted the following message outside his door.
If you supported Donald Trump in the recent election, then
this scripture is for you. And he quotes from the
book of Morman Mosiah twenty nine, twenty six and twenty seven.

(34:48):
I don't know if I'll take the time to read that,
but you know, if you want to look it up
right now, you can see what it has to say.
But basically what he says, and he ended his and
this was something he posted on his door by almost
all objective standards, Donald Trump is an evil man. Now
that you've made your choice, you should expect this prophecy

(35:10):
to be fulfilled.

Speaker 2 (35:12):
I mean, let me ask you a question, because you've
got to be pretty smart to go to BYU. That
it's getting harder and hard to get.

Speaker 1 (35:17):
In that school. It's very hard to get in their their.

Speaker 2 (35:20):
Admissions office is pretty tough, certainly tougher than when I went.
I got it, and I think I slid in. I
think it was literally the door shut right behind me
when I got in. But that play, that's a hard
school to go to. And I know that a lot
of people of the church, members of the Church Yes
Christ a laterday Saints, when their kids, if they live
around the country, they really think this is a moment
for them to go. They don't have to go to

(35:41):
the local state school where you have liberal professors. They're
not they're not of our faith. But then they get
to BYU and these this guy is not alone, He's
not an outlier in terms of professors at b YU.
They are leftists at that school. And I'm I'm I'm
BYU lum, but I'm also BYU fan for football. But
this makes it hard to see this guy write something.

(36:02):
It is it's it's it's like he's a child. If
you don't subscribe to his worldview, and then then you
you're not intellectually smart, You're you're you're morally you're a
moral failure. You deserve to be condemned and destroyed by God.
I mean, what is this guy doing? I mean, who
wants to send their kids in front of this guy? Yeah,
I mean it's it's just an absolute disaster. And it's

(36:24):
part and parcel with this whole higher ed in this country.
Uh are filled with people like this guy.

Speaker 1 (36:30):
Yeah. This was found by the Cougar Chronicle. Now, the
Cougar Chronicle is an independent student or a newspaper, is
not affiliated with the university or with the Church of
Jesus Christ of Latter day Saints, which owns and operates
the university. But they go after the professor Greg And
here's what they said. I guess, either in a story
or an editorial comment, they say, indeed, using scripture to

(36:53):
publicly condemn one's political enemies does little to soothe tensions
after a competitive election season. Accusing potential students of triggering
the judgments of God, placing the moral responsibility of the
resulting destruction on their shoulders is inappropriate, no matter the victor.

Speaker 2 (37:14):
And here's another little wrinkle to this. As I'm looking
at the comments from libs of TikTok everything else, this
really puts the church and our scripture into the crosshairs
as well, because some of the comments from evangelical Christians
is that the Book of Mormon scripture he is using
they do not recognize as the Word of God. And
it gives some space to say this guy in words

(37:35):
like this, this isn't the word of God. And this
guy needs to re actually read the Bible and learn
some Christianity about him. And how sad we're going to
have this because this deranged professor wants to take scripture
in his own worldview and then just condemn every student
that may have supported or family supports Donald Trump.

Speaker 1 (37:56):
It's insane. Yeah, well, here's what's interesting about it as well.
Greg the owner of BYU, the Church of Jesus Christ
of Latter day Saints, issued this statement after the election
on Tuesday night. Here's what they said. We congratulate President
of like Donald Trump on his election as the forty
seventh president of the United States. We invite all to
pray for him. Other elected officials and leaders of nations

(38:18):
around the world. Yeah, you have a professor down there
at BYU, and let me give you his name again.
He's a mathematics professor, Professor David Cardon, basically condemning any
student who will face quote, the judgment of God if
they voted for Donald Trump. What is up with that?

Speaker 2 (38:36):
And now here's again one more interesting wrinkle. Fox News
did exit polls. Kay, So I'm looking at a sample
of one hundred, nineteen five and eighty eight respondents, people
that voted and as they walked out of the voting
poll or voted the online, however they did this or
combination of or asked specific questions. And there's a ton
of questions. Here's the interesting one, what is your present

(38:59):
religion if any and people would identify a faith that
they that they would identify with. And then they said,
who'd you vote for? Protestants by sixty one percent voted
for Donald Trump, Catholics by fifty four percent, other Christian
face sixty one percent. Mormon, as it's described here, they
say Mormon sixty three percent. Folks, that's the highest. So Protestant, Catholic,

(39:22):
Other Christian Faith, Mormon, the LD members of the church
she has Christ the Latter day Saints by exit poll
at sixty three percent support Trump. And this is this
is nationwide. Okay. What is the disconnect in Salt Lake
City with some of the news media that would would
you would think would reflect the majority faith in this

(39:43):
in this state and particularly BYU professors, that they are
the polar opposite in terms of where membership of this
church is looking at candidates and making albeit moral choices.
They're making their choices logical, moral, They're making the choice
that's in their art that they think is right. And
they're not alone. They're with the other Christian faith making
the same vote for for president and then this university

(40:05):
president and some of the narratives we hear in this
state particularly are so anti trade.

Speaker 1 (40:11):
Yeah yeah, and if you voted for Trump, Trump, you'll
face the judgments of God.

Speaker 2 (40:15):
Yeah. It's an immoral decision. It is out of line
even with the membership of this faith.

Speaker 1 (40:22):
All right owns this university. We want to get your
reaction to all of this today. Eight eight eight five
seven O eight zero one Zerod triple eight five seven
o eight zero one zero. We'll get to your calls
and comments coming up right here on the Rodden Greg
Show in Utah's Talk Radio one oh five nine k NRS.

Speaker 2 (40:37):
Let's go to the call phones right now and go
to James and Lehigh. James, welcome to the Rodd and
Greg Show. What do you think of all this?

Speaker 14 (40:46):
Well, I don't want to condemn this, professor, but what
he did was really inappropriate. I believe I'm also a
professor at b YU, and I didn't vote for Trump
in twenty sixteen. I did in two money because I
was very impressed with what he did. I leaned on
Matthew seven twenty from the Bible that says by their

(41:09):
fruits you shall know them. When I look at the
fruits of what Donald Trump has done, I'm very impressed.
He kept his promises. He did a lot of great
things for America. And so you know there's by U
is a very diverse community politically, and so I just

(41:30):
wanted to let people know that not everyone has to
save you as.

Speaker 7 (41:34):
This as a professor.

Speaker 2 (41:35):
James, thank you so much for calling, because I love
hearing the true professor. I did not think you'd be there.
If anything I just think you still must be outgunned
and outnumbered. But I'm so happy, James. We're all happy there, James.

Speaker 1 (41:47):
We're all supporters of free speech, and we believe in
free speech. But was this the appropriate avenue for him
to express his opinion?

Speaker 14 (41:55):
I don't think so. And if you go back to
what is it an Oaks has taught, he talked about
how there are issues that are varied and this might
mean that we we will vote for someone whose other
positions we cannot approve of. I admit that Trump doesn't
come across as the nicest guy sometimes, but he is

(42:18):
doing the work of the people in ways that I
think are unprecedented in my lifetime. And so, yeah, that
wasn't probably the best avenue to make his views known.
But we all make mistakes, so I'll give him a pass.
But I just want everyone to know there are people
that are very supportive at BAU of President Trump.

Speaker 1 (42:39):
All right, James, thank you.

Speaker 2 (42:41):
You know what, I really appreciate that call, because I
was ready to broadbrush that whole school from side to side.

Speaker 1 (42:46):
No, No, don't do that.

Speaker 2 (42:47):
You know that's so good to hear.

Speaker 1 (42:49):
Let's go to Deane and Codwood Heights tonight here on
the Roden Greg Show, Dan, how are you thanks for
joining us?

Speaker 15 (42:55):
Good? How are you good?

Speaker 1 (42:56):
Thank you?

Speaker 15 (42:59):
I have a different opinion. I've been a single mom,
not currently going to church the LDS Faith, but I've
encountered people other people, other religions, particularly the LDS Faith.
People are narrow minded. I was trying to tell a

(43:21):
couple of women at work, you cannot vote Trump by
all what you see on the exterior. You've got to
separate the man from what he has done. And they
just don't get it. Their eyes glaze over. They can't.
They can't make that transition.

Speaker 1 (43:37):
I will let me ask you if you, Dan, let
me ask you. You can't make that transition to not
to vote for Donald Trump. Is that what you're saying?

Speaker 15 (43:48):
They could not because of what what his personal life was,
how he tweeted mean things about people. That's what their
whole thing was. They couldn't get beyond that. Secondly, I
want to make a statement. Back in the mid eighties,
I worked at a technology firm as a computer programmer.

(44:08):
I was two one out of two women out of
fifty fifty. The other forty eight employees were all return missionaries.
From BYU. I have a real problem with BYU because
they just kind of think they're and this is the

(44:28):
religion in general. You can't work with them. You're kind
of demonized. And then when you're living out in the communities,
the people that go to church don't want nothing to
do with you unless you go to church.

Speaker 1 (44:43):
I'm not going to get Dan, Dan, I'm not going
to let you get away with that. That's a generalization
that I don't I don't think is fair to the
people of the LDS faith. I don't think it is.

Speaker 15 (44:53):
Well, I'm sorry, but that's how I've been treated.

Speaker 1 (44:56):
So all right, my Dan, thank you. Let's go back
to the bones the generalization. Am I going to go
along with?

Speaker 2 (45:02):
Well, let's go to Dave in Cash County. Dave, thank
you for holding and thank you for joining us on
the Ron and Greg show.

Speaker 3 (45:09):
Yeah, thank you for taking my call and looking at this.
This professor Cardon, he quotes that scripture and I thought
I'd like to counter with another scripture from the Book
of Mormon. And it's an omniverse too, And I've struggled
with this. I didn't vote for Trump the first time,

(45:29):
but I saw what he did in his first administration,
and I liked what the results were. But in omniverse
too it says where for in my days, I would
that you should know that I fought much with the
sword to pervert to preserve my people, the Nephites, from
falling into the hands of their enemies, the Lamanites. But behold,
I of myself am a wicked man, and I have

(45:52):
not kept the statutes and the commandments of the Lord
as I ought to have done. And quite often, or
maybe not quite often. But there have been other examples,
such as Samson, who was a great champion of the people,
but wasn't It wasn't terribly upright before the Lord. But
with David Cardon's statement, by almost all objective standards, Donald J.

(46:12):
Trump is an evil man. Now that you've made your choice,
you should expect this prophecy to be fulfilled. Couldn't you
also plug in Kamala Harris's name considering both of.

Speaker 1 (46:23):
Their past Oh, yeah, and.

Speaker 3 (46:25):
I wonder, and I wonder, I wonder if this guy
voted for Clinton the second time around.

Speaker 2 (46:31):
Yeah, And you know, and beyond the moral what we
know or don't know about any of these given candidates,
what about the policies that they support. I mean, you know,
she these the policies of the Harris that she was
that you could get or at least see what she's
supported in the past. This you know, women, more women
care about buying eggs and milk than they care about

(46:51):
having abortions, not according to her. But I'm telling you
in reality and why Trump won is because that that
that narrative that the abortion was the issue. Women buy
more eggs and milk than they have abortions, And I'm
telling you that it was the cost of living and
how they're feeding their family and what they're feeling inside
those grocery stores. That is not I'm not. I do
not believe that the Kalamala Harris campaign had the moral

(47:14):
high ground in this campaign on the issues that they
were trying to promote.

Speaker 1 (47:18):
She did not, that's for sure. All Right, We've got
a lot of people want to weigh in on this,
so will take a break and get back to more
of your phone calls right here on the Rod and
Greg Show in Utah's Talk Radio one O five nine
Knrs Paul.

Speaker 2 (47:30):
Well, thank you for holding and welcome to the Rod
and Greg Show.

Speaker 16 (47:35):
Thank you, Hey, just really quick anecdote. My cousin graduated
from BYU last year. Beautiful conservative young women. When she
entered BYU about three four years ago, and she came
out of that school and she is a total woke activist. Interestingly,
she is a temple attending active in her ward. But

(47:59):
she has DLM Pride Progress flags. And this does not
surprise me one bit. This has been a pattern at
UYU for years. I and many others have raised concerns
about what's going on at UYU and nothing is ever done.
And I'm honestly frustrated that tithing funds go to the school,

(48:21):
and I just I know this is not going to
be popular, But where is Russell Nelson, Where is Dalen Oaks?
Where are the men who are supposed to stand for truth?
Because I have Christian friends and they are just so
disappointed with what is going on in Utah the LDS Church.
I mean, we saw the data come out yesterday that
Utah is moving to the left. And I feel like

(48:42):
BYU is the canary in the coal mine for what
is going to becoming cultural culturally to the state, because
that's where our most talented young people go. And it's
super woke.

Speaker 1 (48:53):
Now Yeah, you're right, all good points.

Speaker 2 (48:55):
It scares the daylight said of me, because you've got
a mix of student body from all over the country,
even the world world, and it is out of line
with the voting of people of the church's christilarry scenes
across the country. They're voting sixty three highest percentage of
people identifying Christian faith voting for Trump and for Republicans.
But this state and this school, it is I've heard.

(49:18):
I've heard the same thing about this, about the liberalism
and the leftists. Let's go to agenda.

Speaker 1 (49:23):
Yeah, let's go to read in Salt Lake City tonight
read Welcome to the Rod and Greg Show. What are
your thoughts?

Speaker 12 (49:29):
Hi?

Speaker 17 (49:29):
Rodin Greg.

Speaker 13 (49:30):
This guy sounds to me like he's got a little
bit of an apostate being going on here. It's interesting
to me that if you hear President all, he contradicted
exactly everything he said in his little palls. And I
was an apprect it meeting not too long ago. There's
an elder ior of the seventy and I hold bunch
of seventy now, so I didn't know he was until

(49:51):
he introduced himself. But he made the comment he told
us very great, He says, I don't care whether you're
a Republican or a Democrat if you do or say
things like this professor did. He told us, he said,
you will be held accountable before God. You do not
use religion to go after people in the faith, and

(50:12):
you do not do anything like this guy did. So
that's something to keep in mind.

Speaker 1 (50:17):
That's wise counsel to read, very wise counsel. Thank you
for your thoughts on that. Let's go back to the phones.

Speaker 2 (50:22):
Back to phones, I Chris in Spanish for Chris, Welcome
to the Rod and Greg Show.

Speaker 12 (50:28):
Hey, guys, thanks for taking my call. So, a couple
of things. So Greg, just to draw from a boxing metaphor,
I'm going to do so he threw a jab, I'm
going to do an uppercut and.

Speaker 2 (50:39):
Tu hooks nice the combination.

Speaker 12 (50:42):
The scriptures that I would cite, yes about so speaking
to combinations, secret combinations. So doctor n in Covenants thirty
eight twenty nine and either eight twenty to twenty five.
If you look at what has happened to Donald Trump
and the way he's been treated the last ten years,
he has drawn out and help us easily see how

(51:04):
this super combination works globally against him. And so for
this professor to try to lionize Harris and make her
be the one that is virtuous and morally excellent, it's pathetic.
I would suggest that I hope that Shane Reese is
hearing this that he asks Professor Cardon to actually do
it devotional on secret combinations the marriage, that's what needs

(51:31):
to happen. If he needs to do research on media,
on entertainment, on corporate America, and also on higher ed
and let's see, let's see what he comes up with.

Speaker 1 (51:43):
All right, Chris, thank you of course, President of b
yu's right, get one more call in, Randy and Lehigh.
You've got about forty seconds. Go ahead, Randy.

Speaker 18 (51:55):
Yeah, I just I'm not too much of a into
the Mormon religion, but I just want to know what
does the church think of this?

Speaker 1 (52:02):
Well, yeah, they issued us statement. Thank you very much
Randy for that. Let me tell you what they weighed
in by congratulating the president President elect Trump on his
victory and they you know, they invite all to pray
for him and other elected leaders. So the church is
praising Donald Trump for his election or congratulating him, not praising,
but congratulating him for it.

Speaker 2 (52:24):
But I gotta think. I know we're coming to the heartbreak.
But if this had been a conservative message using the scripture,
I think you would already see apologies from the university.
You see ksls or I shouldn't say, but media stories
about it. You're not seeing any of that that I
can find.

Speaker 1 (52:38):
All Right, We've got a lot more to get to
here on our number three of the Rodin Greg Show,
and stay with us. It's coming right up.

Speaker 2 (52:45):
There is a strong vote on Tuesday of people of
faith and that and by the exit polls, I see
Christian faiths of all kinds. I voted in large majority
for Donald Trump.

Speaker 1 (52:57):
Yeah, you know, a key role that was played. And
I I heard someone say this, I'm not sure if
this is right, Greg, during the coverage and everything going on,
that one of the biggest swing vote sectors in any election,
it's the Catholic vote. Yes, And I'm not sure if
that's true. But I also heard a report coming out
of Detroit as the numbers were coming in that Donald

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Trump was really doing well among Catholic voters in the
Detroit area and I just found that fascinating. Now let's
find let's dig into this a little bit more. Joining
us on our newsmaker light right now is Tim Head.
Tim as executive director of the Faith and Freedom Coalition. Tim,
how are you welcome to the Rod and Greg Thorau Show.
Thanks for joining us tonight, Tim Ya.

Speaker 19 (53:39):
Thanks so much for having me and for spending a
little time talking about this. I think this is an
area that to many people overlook and kind of underestimate
going into political races these days.

Speaker 1 (53:51):
Tim, what do you think happened with a Catholic vote
in this election that was held on Tuesday? What are
the numbers telling you?

Speaker 19 (53:59):
Yeah, so, you know, I think there's we'll give the
numbers first and then we'll talk about the wise. But the
Trump actually the Trump advance ticket wound up pulling in
about one a boy about sixteen or seventeen points. And
that is a huge number. Frankly, it's the largest number
I've seen on record, probably in forty years of this

(54:21):
stuff being recorded more carefully. And when you couple you know,
them winning by sixteen or seventeen points on the Catholic
side and then on the Evangelical side, Evangelicals went about
eighty one to seventeen. I mean, this starts to really
kind of the numbers start to add up pretty quickly,

(54:42):
while you see not only did he win electoral college,
but even the popular roupe here.

Speaker 2 (54:47):
So I love I'm a big believer in religious freedom.
I don't see the Tea Party as the moment of
this country. I see Plymouth Rock as that moment for
this country, and it's founding. And I think our Catholic
face they have sold you. Guys have soldiers. They fight
for religious freedom and liberty all the time, and they're
not afraid to call out abortion issues or other issues.

(55:09):
Talk to me about that in this election and how
you know we're becoming a more secular nation. People seem
to be, by survey going to church a little less.
But I'll tell you the exit polls say that if
you go to church at any frequency at all, you
were voting more for Trump than you were for Kamala
Harris in this last election. Tell me about what's going
on with our faith in America? And you're very active

(55:30):
in these issues and not shying away from it. Do
you see us making ground? You where's the role of
our faith in American politics but in American society?

Speaker 19 (55:40):
Well, you know the funny thing, you know, I've been
with Faith in Free and Coalition for a decade now,
the executive director we've been around about fifteen years, but
as an organization. But you know, we get questions or
conversations about this. It's almost kind of like on a
rinse and repeat cycle from the media. Usually in the
spring of an of a of a federal or presidential

(56:02):
election year, we start seeing a bunch of like US
News and World Report, you know that are a few
reports coming out about church attendance is down, and you know,
people identifying with as as as as religious nuns and
you know in in O n e s, not in
U n s. And and you know, so we kind
of we we see them kind of start to kind

(56:22):
of like tap the brakes and kind of chill a
little bit. Hey, there's less of you out there than
there used to be, so be careful. But in every
invariably at least the last five election cycles, the wrong
number of Christians and then the percentage of that wrong
number voting for the pro life, profaith, profaith, privilegious liberty

(56:45):
candidate continue to grow each and every time. So so
there does seem to be some non sequitor out there
that the kind of the sociological trends or saying one thing,
but the political numbers are actually saying another.

Speaker 1 (56:59):
Tim had, executive director of the Faith and Freedom Coalition,
joining us on the Rod and Greg Show tonight. Tim,
I want to talk to you about Donald Trump's moral character.
Of course, a lot of questions have been raised about
his moral character. You know, none of us are perfect.
He certainly is not. None of us are. But in
twenty sixteen that was an important issue for a lot

(57:21):
of people. How about in twenty twenty four especially among
Catholic voters and Christian voters. Has that changed and why
did it change?

Speaker 19 (57:29):
Do you think, Tim, Well, you know a good question.
It is certainly a fair question I think about about
Trump himself. But I think it's also Yeah, I think
savvy political either voters or kind of onlookers, recognize that
every political election, presidential or otherwise a city council, there's
a positive negative charge. Not only is somebody voting for

(57:50):
a candidate, but they're also voting against the other candidate.
And so's who is the candidate for the Republicans matters?
And who is the candidate for the Democrats matters?

Speaker 20 (58:01):
Uh?

Speaker 19 (58:01):
In this situation, you know, Biden was probably you know,
his policies probably are compromised in certain ways, but he
was still kind of perceived by a lot of Catholics
as still being you know, a pretty devout Catholic. And
so when you compared that to Donald Trump, more Catholics
were felt comfortable going with Biden. But with that same
kind of analysis, when they looked at Kamala Harris, there

(58:25):
was kind of no even pretense of of of kind
of any kind of religious uh affiliation or practice. Compared
to Trump, those same Catholic voters and evangelicals for that matter,
felt much more comfortable going with Trump. So so you know,
both sides of the ledger really do kind of play
a factor in in in in this pretty elaborate, pretty

(58:49):
fascinating decision kind of tree that that voters make each
election cycle.

Speaker 2 (58:54):
So I love what you said. Over five election cycles,
as we see the polls come out in the spring
of these, even the election years or presidential years, they say, look,
no one's going to church anymore. And then you're seeing
as the results come in a larger voting block of
Christian faith voters who identify with the Christian faith and
describe who they vote for and it being a Republican candidate.

(59:14):
If that's growing, and I love that it is, what
do I have to do, what our listeners, what should
we do to continue that growth? Because I really do
I feel very strongly that these are the voters that
are going to help decide the future and keep our
country strong. What do we have to do to continue
those increases that you're seeing over those election cycles?

Speaker 19 (59:33):
Well, great question, And you know, first of all, I
have to say, you know, we at Faith in Freedom,
we were very active. This is probably most more active
than ever in registering new voters, and you'd be surprised.
It's not just enormous numbers, but there definitely still are
millions of people of faith that are not registered and
not voting still, And so I would say, you know

(59:53):
that that can be certainly a very practical thing that
I think that all of us can be aware of
in our own communities, making sure that they're kind of
like voter registration drives going on pretty regularly, not just
kind of you know, in the last fifteen minutes leading
up to a presidential election. And then you know, I
think the other pieces is just not being misled or

(01:00:15):
intimidated basically by these kinds of reports. Just be informed,
you know, certainly be principled in your own beliefs. But
I'll just just know. I mean, there's going to in
February of twenty twenty eight, there is going to be
an article by Newsweek that's going to talk about nobody
goes to church anymore.

Speaker 3 (01:00:32):
It's going to happen.

Speaker 1 (01:00:33):
Yeah, yeah, Tim, great conversation. Thanks for a few minutes
of your time, and I know we'll be talking to
you again down the road. Thank you, Tim, Love it
all right, appreciate it.

Speaker 2 (01:00:42):
Thanks so much.

Speaker 1 (01:00:42):
Tim Head, executive director of the Faith and Freedom Coalition
here on the Rotting Greg Show, and he brought up
a point Greg, and I've been I've wanted to bring
this up for a couple of days since the election gues.
Donald Trump has won. Yes, it looks like we're going
to control the Senate and the House. Now is not
the time for voters to dis age. In my opinion,
you know, maybe not go as far as you have

(01:01:03):
been leading up to this election, but stay in the know,
know where you are, know your position. I think that
is so critical as we move forward with a reorienting
of the American people a change in philosophy.

Speaker 2 (01:01:16):
Well, what I liked about what Tim had just had
to say was that maybe we've been maybe this is
one of those this is another narrative, a leftist narrative
that we've been told so many times. We start to
just absorb and think, well, that's the way the world
looks like, and that's where we are. I guess the
border is open. I guess that you know that by
you know, gender is of choice, and and no one

(01:01:37):
goes to church. Maybe all these things, maybe we're just
getting duped on all fronts. And I'm going to go
sign up right now for Faith and Freedom Coalition to
get their news lay or whatever they do, because I
think this is an incredibly obviously a very incredibly important
voting block, and I'd like to leave it in our hands, frankly,
of those that have some faith in the man upstairs,

(01:01:59):
and now we vote more.

Speaker 1 (01:02:00):
Coming up, Rod and Greg with you on this Thursday
in Utah's Talk Radio one oh five nine k NRS.
You got the.

Speaker 2 (01:02:06):
Catholic schools, you got all the you know, the scars
on your knuckles from those nuns rulers. So you have
to write a passage after that.

Speaker 1 (01:02:14):
But you're going to the University of Notre Dame. Notre
Dame Plane, Florida State.

Speaker 2 (01:02:17):
Florida State. Yeah, And I'm a kind of a wantabe.
I've always wanted to cheer for Notre Dame and I
love Notre Dame. But I don't have any connection to
the school, so I never felt I don't like the
bandwagon people. But I got a friend that used to
work in the house offices when I was there, and
he's a Notre Dame alum, and he's invited me. And
so now I feel being invited by a Notre Dame alum.

(01:02:39):
I'm being welcomed into the good for you, to the
you know, into the club, so it's for you.

Speaker 1 (01:02:44):
Well, we rarely do this on the show, but we
had such a huge response people want to weigh in
on this, we thought we'd go back and visit it
and get to more of your phone calls if you'd
like to join in on the conversation. The discussion was
about a BYU professor quoting scripture using it posting on
his office door there at BYU condemning Trump voters. This

(01:03:05):
story that came to light today as a result of
an article in the Cougar Chronicle now, which by the way,
is not affiliated with the university or the Church of
Jesus Christ of Latter day Saints, a private publication that
they do down there, But it was story about a
BYU mathematics professor. His name is David Cardon posted a
message on his door and it basically said, if you

(01:03:28):
supported Donald Trump in the recent election, then this scripture
is for you, and I'm not going to read the scripture.
You can dig it out yourself. Is from the Book
of Mormonist Mosiah twenty nine, twenty six through twenty seven.
You read that, and at the end he says, by
almost all objective standards, Donald Trump is an evil man.
Now that you've made your choice, you should expect this

(01:03:51):
prophecy to be fulfilled. And in the prophecy it warns
people to get ready to face the judgments of God.

Speaker 2 (01:03:59):
Yeah, yes, yeah, well you know what I'm just I
just can't disagree more. And I don't think that that
professor's sentiments are reflected in the faith or the voters
who've voted and those that were pulled. At least, this

(01:04:21):
isn't a new stat either. This isn't new Members of
the Turgyst Christ of latterday Saints have more dependently voted
for Republicans. And look, I'm not trying to mix the two,
but I certainly am not going to accept a professor's
premise that you cannot be a member of the FACER
or you're going to face the condemnation, wrath, maybe even
destruction from the man upstairs if you happen to vote

(01:04:41):
for Donald Trump. It's it is completely disconnected from the
realities of the times that we're living in right now
and the way people are voting. I mean, you cannot
look at this map of this country and decide with
one broad brush. You've just now condemned seventy three million people.
And this is ninety seven percent Hispanic Border County in
Texas flipping first time in one hundred and twenty eight

(01:05:03):
years and voting for Trump. And so those ninety seven
percent Hispanic voters are all meeting their fate yep, from
the man upstairs because of this guy and what he
think his worldview is and what his view of politics is.
Give me a break. It's just so wrong on so
many fronts.

Speaker 1 (01:05:19):
And what is so interesting about this, You know he
works at BYU he's a professor there. We all know
that BYU I think most people know is owned by
the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter day Saints. And
after the results of what took place on Tuesday night
with the election of President Donald Trump, the LDS Church
issued a statement congratulating Donald Trump on his election as

(01:05:41):
the forty seven the president and invited all to pray
for him. But now you have this professor down there
calling on students who voted for him that they better
be ready to face the judgments of God, and apparently
to this professor, it won't be pretty. So we want
to get your reaction to this. We got a lot
of calls in before where we talked with Tim Head,
who is the executive director of the Faith and Freedom Coalition,

(01:06:04):
but the response was so strong. We want to get
more of your calls in on this. Eight eight eight
five seven eight zero one zero, triple eight five seven
eight zero one zero, or on your cell phone dial
pound two fifty and say hey Rod and Greg and
I I think Greg would agree with me on this.
We are crusaders of free speech. People have a right
to express their opinions. Sometime the avenue may not be

(01:06:25):
the appropriate way to do so, and I think the
avenue of posting this on the door on his office
door at BYU may not be the perfect avenue. Let's
go to the phones and we get more of your
calls on this tonight. Let's go to a Dane who's
in Roy tonight on the Rod and Greg Show. Dane,
how are you thanks for joining us?

Speaker 18 (01:06:45):
Hey, I'm good. U. I'm so waity for that pick
a ball game.

Speaker 1 (01:06:49):
But you'll get it, Dane. I've got your information. I'll
get to you. Man, Go ahead, Dane.

Speaker 18 (01:06:58):
So look, yeah, I haven't heard a ton of the
comments going on. I've been getting pieces of they get
in my car and drive and go to another job.
And you know, but I so, I don't know what
other people have already said, but I do have a
problem with somebody using one tidbit or a cherry picked

(01:07:20):
scripture to then turn around and judge both me and
you know, the rest of the world. For one thing,
if you're gonna judge, then obviously you've you've missed something
in the in the gospel already.

Speaker 7 (01:07:34):
Yeah, that's for starters.

Speaker 18 (01:07:37):
And then my second thing is, you know there's been
we've had six or six thousand years of history of
people of scripture where people have had to choose the
best they.

Speaker 6 (01:07:52):
Have for the moment.

Speaker 18 (01:07:55):
So should we just all, you know, lay down and
die because we we don't have, you know, Moroni as
a choice for president. That just doesn't make sense to me.
I just think that's totally up to and lacking and understanding.
I mean, I could see why he's a mathematics teacher.

(01:08:15):
He doesn't understand philosophy.

Speaker 21 (01:08:17):
Probably very well.

Speaker 2 (01:08:19):
This is why we have to go back to the
phones I find our list. Thank you so much for
your comments, and I agree one hundred percent. Thank you.
This is why we need to talk about this, and
I want to.

Speaker 1 (01:08:28):
We want to.

Speaker 2 (01:08:29):
I want to bring some attention to this now. Cohogar
Chronicles said, look, we don't want you to go after
the president or this professor personally, but he does say
you can they give the email address for the president
of BYU, as well as the department head and everyone else.
I do think that there ought to be some reaction,
at least to the school. Let's hear what you have
to say. Let's go to Tracy and Ogden. Tracy, Welcome

(01:08:51):
to the Rodd and Greg Show.

Speaker 22 (01:08:54):
Hi, as far as this conversation goes in Mosiah chapter
twenty three, verse fifteen, almost teaching the people that every
man should love his neighbor as himself, that there should
be no contention among him, that includes politically And we
were taught that during conference, and Elder Holland even went

(01:09:17):
to BYU several years ago and called a lot of
the teachers to repentance because they were teaching things that
were more politically motivated and more contentious and more liberal.
And we need to be aware of those things that
you know, there's going to be a sifting and there
will be a time that we will all be judged.

(01:09:39):
The main thing that we should be aware of is
loving one another, including those that have faults and differences.
Instead of condemning each other, we should be trying to
love each other and teach and set a good example
and always follow with the scriptures, teach.

Speaker 1 (01:09:56):
Ye you're right, set a good example, and seek to
understand each other. I think that's the message that we've
heard from LDS church leaders for a number of years. Now.
Now we've got a lot of calls coming in, we
need to take a break and we'll get back to
more of your phone calls right here on the Roden
greg Show and Utah's Talk Radio one O five nine knrs, Hey.

Speaker 2 (01:10:14):
It's citizen use here, whether you're saving to.

Speaker 1 (01:10:17):
Fund your what is the professor now saying?

Speaker 2 (01:10:20):
So in real time, this is happening, this is breaking
as we're on the show. He's doubled down this anti Trump.
Professor A. Byu has doubled down on his letter to
his students that he posted on his door. The questions
that the Kugar Chronicle clerk posed were what was the
purpose of posting that you're posting? And then it pointed
out that Byu maintains a policy of neutrality faculty or

(01:10:42):
given the liberty of free speech, but do you think
a message like this could alienate any of your conservative students?
His response, first, first of all, there is no question
that Trump is a wicked man. The list of his
crimes is very long. And then he says the word
endorsement does not apply. I didn't say to vote for
Trump or not to vote for Trump. But then he

(01:11:02):
says being neutral is not the same as being ignorant
and naive. And then the final point he likes to
make is that the idea that the last paragraph comes
straight out of the book? Is the idea from the
last paragraph comes straight out of the Book of Mormon.
If it offends you, then then you should also be
offended by the Book of Mormon. If it offends you,
you probably don't believe in the Book of Mormon. So uh,

(01:11:29):
I would I'm looking for guys with those butterfly nets
to go find this guy. I think he's crazy.

Speaker 20 (01:11:35):
I do.

Speaker 2 (01:11:35):
I think this guy is crazy? What is the listener?

Speaker 1 (01:11:40):
Let's go to Carrie, who's in pro vote tonight? Carry
How are you welcome to the Rod and Gregg show?

Speaker 17 (01:11:46):
Doing great?

Speaker 6 (01:11:47):
Thanks? Letting me have a few minutes talk to you.

Speaker 1 (01:11:49):
You're welcome, go ahead.

Speaker 6 (01:11:52):
I think his idea that Trump is wicked is absolutely insane.
I'm lds into the church faithful and I look at
Trump and he was the president who was pro life.
In fact, he put three Supreme Court justices on the
Supreme Court who overturned Roby Wade. If that's not Christian
or guys like, what is.

Speaker 12 (01:12:13):
With pro Israel?

Speaker 6 (01:12:14):
He they had three peace accords in Israel when he
was the president.

Speaker 2 (01:12:21):
The Abraham Court.

Speaker 6 (01:12:23):
Taxes, yeah, energy independence, I mean, people off of foods.
I mean he just just so much that is absolutely
in a line with the gospel teaching. I think this
professor is out of his mind.

Speaker 2 (01:12:34):
I couldn't agree more like he's the first president ever
attend the big annual Washington d C Pro life rally.
He attended. It is bizarre to me that these Trump
if he's talking, if the rest is talking about the
law fair and all the charges they put up against
him to try and prohibit him or keep him from
running for reelection, those aren't I mean, I don't. I

(01:12:54):
don't believe that the as he says, it's the list
of the Trump is a wicked man in the list
of his crimes are very long. Yeah, so let's go.
Let's go back to the phones. Ted and Genola, Welcome
to the Rod and Greg Show.

Speaker 11 (01:13:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 17 (01:13:11):
I was listening to this on the Professor and I
heard some people yesterday commenting on why they didn't vote
for Trump. Two of his bad ideas are bad things
that he's done.

Speaker 11 (01:13:23):
Well.

Speaker 17 (01:13:24):
First of all, this is the problem of why we're
losing so many LDS youngsters, is because we're so free
and we have so many strong minded people that want
to judge everybody. There's only one judger and he don't
live here no more, but he is the person that
judges us.

Speaker 1 (01:13:43):
That's right, that's right, You're absolutely right. Appreciate your phone call.
Let's go to Chris in Springville. Chris, how are you
welcome to the Roddin Gregg Show. Go ahead, Chris.

Speaker 12 (01:13:54):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:13:55):
So, I actually agree with the professor. In fact, I
wrote some documentation that effect, I think Donald Trump is
a wicked man, but not only that. And I'm a conservative,
by the way, and I would no longer, I would
no sooner vote for Kamala Harrison. I went for Donald Trump,
and I don't understand where the disconnect is. He is
a wicked man.

Speaker 6 (01:14:13):
We've got how do you say that?

Speaker 20 (01:14:15):
Right?

Speaker 1 (01:14:15):
Why do you say?

Speaker 11 (01:14:17):
Tell me what that is?

Speaker 2 (01:14:18):
Tell me it?

Speaker 13 (01:14:18):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (01:14:18):
Hens, So give us a list once three biggest, the.

Speaker 3 (01:14:23):
Biggest cheats on his wife and admits it and and
racks up eight trillion dollars worth of debt during his
four year first presidential firm, so that I couldn't even
try to stop Congress from trying to do that. That's
money that we have to pay back you and I
I take that personal hate.

Speaker 1 (01:14:42):
Yeah, but let me ask you this.

Speaker 3 (01:14:44):
He violated our free agency? How many?

Speaker 1 (01:14:49):
How many presidents before this racked up the debt that
you're claiming? Donald Trump did.

Speaker 14 (01:14:57):
My point exactly.

Speaker 15 (01:14:58):
Thank you.

Speaker 3 (01:14:59):
So you're actually agreeing with me than the other president.

Speaker 2 (01:15:03):
I'm sure Chris is basically just checking out of all
of civic duty and participation. And I think that's going
to go wonderfully. And I actually listening to Chris support
his premise that he needs to stay right away from
that ballot box. Stay right away, Chris, It's not made
for you.

Speaker 14 (01:15:18):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (01:15:19):
These people that just don't make your moral code, I
don't know who survives you.

Speaker 8 (01:15:24):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (01:15:24):
I'm sure you got plenty of rocks to throw at
a lot of people.

Speaker 1 (01:15:27):
All Right, we've got more of your calls and comments
coming up here on the Rotting Greg Show and Talk
Radio one oh five nine knrs. And let's go back
to the phones, right.

Speaker 2 (01:15:35):
Okay, let's go to Quentin and Tremont and Quentin, Welcome
to the Rotting Greg Show.

Speaker 21 (01:15:41):
Hey, how you guys doing tonight?

Speaker 1 (01:15:43):
Doing well? Thank you?

Speaker 21 (01:15:46):
You know everybody, a lot of I was a delegate.
I've been a delegate for twenty years or so, and
in caucus, you know a lot of people were saying,
I can't, I can't vote for Trump because oh, he's
a convicted criminal and we wanted to keep our car short.
Our savior Jesus Christ was a convicted criminal, was it. Yeah,

(01:16:06):
I don't put them in the same category.

Speaker 2 (01:16:08):
Yeah, you know, no, But I think I think your point,
Your point is well taken. It's the context in which
those those convictions happen, and there is plenty of context
behind the lawfare that President Trump has endured over the
last few years.

Speaker 1 (01:16:22):
Back to the phones we go. Let's go to Tawilla
and hear what Diane has to say tonight here on
the Rod and Greg Show.

Speaker 20 (01:16:27):
Hi Diane, Hi, I'm hearing all of these people being
very condemning.

Speaker 15 (01:16:34):
Uh.

Speaker 20 (01:16:35):
I know that we all have to judge who we
want to associate with and everything of that, But who
among us doesn't change as we experience life, and uh,
we all are asking for mercy. That's if it weren't
for that, none of us would be worthy of anything

(01:16:55):
to that.

Speaker 1 (01:16:56):
And we all have changed over the years, that's for sure.
Let's go back to the phones.

Speaker 2 (01:17:00):
In Salt Lake City. Welcome to the program.

Speaker 11 (01:17:03):
Hey, thanks for taking my call. So I think Obviously
it was the wrong venue for him to express his
political opinion. But certainly the thing he got wrong is
it should be Kamala Harris. He's using that yardstick of
justice for not Donald Trump. It reminds me of the
commandment about lying, thou shalt not bear false witness against
thin neighbor. Literally every policy position she bore false witness on.

(01:17:23):
You don't all of a sudden one eighty on all
of your policies just before, you know, sixty days before
the election.

Speaker 1 (01:17:29):
I mean, here, Mark, he needs to be all right, Aaron,
thank you. Let's go to Doug in Taylorsville tonight. You're
on the Rodin Greig show. Go ahead, Doug.

Speaker 7 (01:17:40):
Yeah. In my opinion, this is why there should be
a complete separation of church and state. No church or
any religion should have any sway in who you vote
for or how you vote.

Speaker 8 (01:17:53):
Here here, I.

Speaker 1 (01:17:57):
People should be allowed, if they're faithful, you know, depending
on what religion, they still should be allowed to participate
in politics.

Speaker 2 (01:18:03):
Right faith to absolutely engage.

Speaker 7 (01:18:05):
And I yes, but that's not what I'm saying. Your
church or your religion should not sway you in how
you vote.

Speaker 1 (01:18:13):
Okay, all right, Dougan.

Speaker 2 (01:18:15):
I'm with him. Let's go to Roger on I fifteen. Roger,
welcome to the Rod and Greg Show.

Speaker 6 (01:18:21):
Hey, thank you.

Speaker 14 (01:18:23):
Hey.

Speaker 10 (01:18:23):
So, anybody who voted for let's say, another man other
than Trump, aren't we all evil in the eyes of God?
Isn't that why Jesus died for our sins?

Speaker 1 (01:18:37):
That's a good point, Roger, you're right on that one.

Speaker 2 (01:18:39):
Well, look the Mosaic law the stone adulterers, kay, and
the Savior comes and says you without sin, cast the
first stone. That means that the conversation's over. We all
have sin. You're not allowed to throw the stones. So
if you want to go call out who you think
the adulterers are, your your Pharisee, your sadducey, as far
as I'm concerned.

Speaker 1 (01:18:57):
All right, that does it for us tonight. Greg, you'll
be in Chicago tomorrow. I guess we call this our
Midwest Command Post.

Speaker 2 (01:19:05):
This will be the Midwest Command Post. Hopefully get joining you.

Speaker 1 (01:19:07):
You can figure out all this technology, all right, head up,
shoulders back. May God bless you and your family and
that it's great country of ours. Thanks for joining us tonight.
We're back tomorrow at for have a good Thursday,

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