Rod and Greg Show: Disposing of National Parks; More Jobs than Let On; Utah Exporting Oil?

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Today. I know, I've had Carolyn Fippen as my guest host,
guest co host this whole week. She had some issues
that came up today. She was battling through them all
and she said she was going to be here, and
I just said, you're just going to bring bad mojo
to this whole program when you've got that much going
on in your life. You've got a lot of stuff happening.
And she, I said, don't send a dark cloud over

(00:21):
this station. You stay home, do do what you need
to do. So she had some things come up that
she needed her time and attention. So I am just
flying solo on this Friday. But you know what it is,
Thank Rod and Gregg. It's Friday edition of The Rotten
Greg Show. And Rod this is his last day on vacation.
I don't know. I'm assuming. I mean, he sent me

(00:43):
some picks from where he's at and I'm hoping he
comes back. But I would not blame him if he
wanted to stay in paradise a little longer. We'll ask
him when he gets back next week about what it
was like to, you know, hang out in such a
tropical paradise. And I think he was golfing too, so
he's had a good time. But he'll be back on Monday.
And until then, we're just gonna we're gonna glide this

(01:06):
plane to the end of the week here this afternoon,
and we're gonna have a great time doing it. There
is so much that continues to go on uninterrupted, so
you can't we can't take our foot off the gas
in this show, folks. We are going to be speaking
to Aaron Weisman, Aaron Weiss, excuse me, who's the WUT
director from the Center for Western Priorities then based out

(01:29):
of Colorado, U They looked at some of the things
at the White House. The White House proposed a wish
list of budget cuts that they would like Congress to
consider as they're looking at the budget Reconciliation Bill, the
budget bill this year or this week and moving forward.
And it's a great list if you want to see
cutting cuts in government. You're seeing a lot of what
Dog has found, a lot of what Doge has recommended

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in that wish list of things that they he would
like to see the President would like to see reflected
in the budget. Specific to Utah and specific to Utah
or Western states. There is some exciting budget cut proposals
that I would argue, and we speak with Aaron from
the Center for Western Priorities that I think in power states,

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Western states, and you know, we're sixty six percent of
our whole state is federally owned, controlled, managed land, and
we do have county rural counties where we have counties
and state land management plans that work really, really well,
and we'd love to get our hands on and be
able to have a little state sovereignty and be able
to manage the whole state. There's some recommendations in this

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bill or in this wish list from the White House
that would allow us to do that at even a
greater at a level at all, but even a greater
level than we thought possible. So we're going to have
a great discussion about that in the five o'clock hour later.
I haven't seen this widely reported. It's been touched on
a little bit, but of all places, maybe our public.

(02:58):
Maybe they're doing this because of public radios on a
chopping block with our president, so they're trying to make
up for lost time and maybe put some good articles
out there. But they are reporting, and I think this
is kue r so I hate to misrepresent who wrote this,
because I wrote I wrote it in a print version
where I can't see the fish rap organization that wrote it,

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but I know it came from a public radio station,
Local one. The headline is Utah is again an energy
exporter thanks to the UNNA base and crude oil. We're
going to speak to du Shane County Commissioner Greg Miles.
He has been I've known this gentleman for a long time.
He's a public servant. I worked with him when I
was on the clock as a public servant. And there

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is so much good and so much upward trajectory happening
in the oil and gas industry, especially with the Trump administration.
And I'll tell you that the state has always done
very well on oil and gas, making us a self
sustaining state. But we have been in the past a
net exporter coal, gas, crude, and we are in that

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status finally once again. And we're going to talk to
Commissioner Miles later in the program about what's happening in
the basin, what they're doing, what's the upside. A lot
of exciting things going on, and by the way, in
the way satch front, we probably aren't really tracking that
very closely, but we should be because it's a major
economic sector for the state of Utah. And again it

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goes back to being energy and independent, where we're not
asking Venezuela and Saudi Arabia Arabia for oil production or
anything like that. We have so much by way of
natural resources in the state, and we can also be
a profitable state as we export. We get everything we
need in the state and then we can export even excess.

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So we're going to talk to him about that also
in the show. You know, we've been hearing we've been
talking about the reality versus the leftist regime, media or
socialists or democrat you know, elected officials and Congress and
around the country, you know, just painting such a grim
picture of America and just trying to say that everything

(05:06):
is just going down the drain. It's a narrative that's
just not matching up and aligning well with reality. We're
going to continue that theme here on Friday about how
the economy is doing, how is this country doing compared
to what the what the headlines have been saying. A
jobs report came out today and it's just simply doesn't

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match the sky's falling pearl clutching doomsdayers on the left
and what they've been trying to convince American people are
happening with this economy. So we're going to get down
to the truth of that. So we have some clips,
we have some great information to share with you there.
And then also I'm going to play probably in this
segment here Trump was a president. Trump spoke at University

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of Alabama and he spoke at their commencement ceremony, and
there are some gems in that speech. And look, we'll
get into that in a second. But what the show
is also going to be about is it's going to
be about your calls. It's like an open line. It's
thank rodin Greg, it's Friday. You know when we had
our guest host Carolyn Fippen here. We've had some great discussions,
we had some callers, but I feel like I feel

(06:16):
like I didn't get to the phones enough. I don't
feel like you, the listener, participate in this show as
much as you usually do when Rod and I are
just running it. It's my fault. I'm new with this
NASA like board. I'm trying to do some things over here,
and so you have not been the voice that I
expect and I enjoy you to be on this show.

(06:36):
And so we're going to open up these lines starting
even in the four o'clock hour. We're going to talk
about some things, but want to hear from you as well.
It's been a very very busy week, a lot of
things happening, and I would love to have your take
on all of them. There's a lot to go over,
but let me just right now, let me just point.
Let me go to this commencement speech from President Trump.

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I think this was a very powerful speech. And again,
isn't it. It's just fun for me to see him
go to you know, when he was when he was
president in the first term, you know, everyone wanted to
act like it was such a bad thing, and there
just seemed to be a lot of negativity. I think
this country is really rallying around this president. I know

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the leftists in my life, the Democrats, they think it's
as bad as it's ever been. But I think America
really is identifying, recognizing the leadership of President Trump, and
I think he is getting more momentum. I think it's
a party of addition, an administration of addition. While the
Democrats continue to pursue the role of subtraction. So I

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love this beginning as he's beginning to address the students
of Alabama, let's let's have a let's have a listen.

Speaker 2 (07:50):
It is clear to see the next chapter of the
American story will not be written by the Harvard Crimson.
It will be written by you, the Crimson Tide.

Speaker 1 (08:08):
He kept going, and you know what I'm gonna do.
I'm gonna hold it. I'm gonna hold off on that
because it's a little bit longer. Look, it's about a minute,
but it's so worth it. And it's actually a it's
a compilation of the advice he had about ten He
had ten items. He wanted these students to know, Harvard Crimson,
you're not in charge anymore. The Crimson Tide. Those graduates,
those young excited kids that are graduating today, they're the

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future of this country. And the ten points he gave
of principles that we should live our lives by, they
aren't just reserved for these young graduates. It's it really
or from just this particular school. These are I think
points of to live by all of us. And so
I'm gonna play that when we come back from the
break because I think it's it's a little bit. It's

(08:51):
like I said, it's about a minute, but I think
it's worth listen. Well, listen to that when we come
back after the break, and then we're gonna get into
some of the economics. I want to get into this
job reports that came in today because again doesn't match up.
Narratives in reality are not matching up. Folks, from what
everything you've heard, everything they've said, they don't they don't
want to tell you what's really going on. I can
don't blame them. I don't think their narrative is all

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that strong anyway, and when the good news comes, it
just breaks their hearts. So we're gonna break their hearts
further when we come back. We're gonna go over with
the jobs reports all of that when we come back.
So hang on over the break. You're listening to Utah
Stalk Radio one oh five nine. Can us thank Rod
and Greg. It's Friday edition of the Rod and Greg Show.
Rod's not here. My guest co host, Carolyn Fippen is

(09:35):
not able to be here today, but she's in. She's
doing some important work. She had some things come up
today that I really thought we would be cursed if
she was here instead of doing what she needs to
be doing right now. So I said she was she
was ready to be a good soldier and get here.
But she's Carolyn's doing what she needs to do and
she's not gonna curse our show by being here instead.

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So I put a stop to that. Anyway, you just
got me. I'm just flying solo here today, but it
is on Friday. We love to hear from you on
all topics that we've gone over this week. Our phone
numbers here if you'd like to call comment. Eight eight
eight five seven zero eight zero one zero is the
number to call. We were talking right before the break,
and I didn't get it in that first break, but

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I wanted you to hear it. President Trump was invited
to speak at the commencement ceremony in Alabama University of Alabama,
and it was a great one he's and I love
that he said, now, the Harvard Crimson isn't going to,
you know, make America greater, isn't going to be making
isn't going to be forging our future. It's going to
be the Crimson tide. And so that was a great line.

(10:40):
The kids The students loved it, but he has a
I think his commencement speech for parts of it, the
parts I'm going to share with you right now. He's
really talking to Americans again, especially our young ones. I
think that you saw we've talked about it that the
Generation Z since they've been polling, since they've been identifying
these generations of India, so we're talking eighteen to twenty four,

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eighteen to twenty nine year olds, is what Generation Z.
He is. He's really talking to our youngest generation of adults,
saying that it's all upside. There is so much and
he's really and I think he genuinely means this. He
is very bullish about the future of America and with
our young people that are graduating right now and what
opportunities are going to have and what they're going to do.
But he had ten points that he wanted to share

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with it in his speech. But I think every one
of us are going to enjoy to hear what it
is that he thinks are what you need to keep
your eye on as you're moving forward in life and
looking to succeed in life.

Speaker 2 (11:38):
Here he goes, if you're here today and think that
you're too young to do something great.

Speaker 1 (11:46):
Let me tell you that you are wrong.

Speaker 2 (11:48):
You're not too young in America. With drive and ambition,
young people can do anything. I rarely see somebody that's
successful that doesn't love what he or she does.

Speaker 1 (11:58):
Think big.

Speaker 2 (11:58):
You're going to do something about as well. Think big,
work hard, never ever stop. Don't lose your momentum. Just
want to keep it going. And you have to know
if you are losing it. You have to know when
you're losing it, so maybe you stop and maybe it's
time to stop. If you want to change the world,
you have to have the courage to be an outsider.
In other words, you have to take certain risks and

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do things a little bit differently. Otherwise, if that weren't
the case, everybody would be successful. Trust your instincts, common sense.
You can go very far in life with common sense.
Think of yourself as a winner the power of positive thinking.
Don't consider yourself a victim, consider yourself a winner, and
be an original. The old time greats were people who

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had the confidence to be a little different. God only
created one of you.

Speaker 3 (12:46):
Remember that.

Speaker 2 (12:47):
And finally, and most importantly, never ever give up.

Speaker 4 (12:50):
Never give up.

Speaker 2 (12:51):
I think you have a chance to be the greatest
generation in the history of our country.

Speaker 5 (12:56):
You're there, You're the.

Speaker 1 (13:00):
I do. He says, he thinks they have a chance
to be the greatest generation in the history of our country. Well,
I say, bring it on. I would embrace, enjoy, love
that very much. And I think this again, I think
not what our young people have lived through, what they've
seen a heavy hand of government put them through, through
COVID and whatnot in their high school years. They see

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how dangerous it can get out there. So I love
the optimism. I love the points that he brought up,
and I think there are points we can all stand
to live by. So let's do this. Let's go to
our callers. Thank you for listening. I'm so glad we
already have callers. Let's go to Don and orum down.
Welcome to the Rotting Greg Show, satas In Hughes flying
solo here, Don, But thank you for calling.

Speaker 3 (13:43):
How are you today?

Speaker 1 (13:44):
Doing well?

Speaker 3 (13:46):
You know, I when Trump was approaching the one hundred
day mark, I just thought in my head, in my map,
isn't always the best in the world. But he has
fourteen more one hundred day segments to go. Yeah, that's
not slowing down. Anything, he's going to seed up, so
you know, hold on. It's going to be a wild ride.

(14:09):
And I'm a great supporter of Trump. I don't understand
what tariffs are very much, and never thought of him
in my life. I don't know whether Canada would want
to be the fifty first stake. Never thought of it
in my life. I don't know if paramaunt Canal is
run by the Chinese. Never brought it up in my life.
And you know what I but I do call the
Gulf of America the Gulf of America because it's a

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good idea.

Speaker 6 (14:31):
Amen.

Speaker 1 (14:31):
Brother, Hey, let me ask you real quick before you
jump off a grade for the hundred days. And I
agree with you. I don't think he's slowing down at all.
I think that one hundred days he's just ramping up.
I think you see things moving so quickly. And I'm
going to share with you and our listeners some economic
numbers that you're not going to hear from the regime media.
But what which kind of grade would you give our
president for so far?

Speaker 7 (14:50):
Well?

Speaker 3 (14:51):
Just an A plus? I mean, you know what else
can you give? But the saying is is that he's
just so far ahead of everybody. And you know, the Democrats,
I haven't heard a single thing coherence statements from them
at all. They're just rambling. And I mean, it's just
great to have someone in this that that is I

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believe is for America.

Speaker 1 (15:16):
Here here, don Thank you for calling in, thank you
for sharing yours observations, and I share those. And I'm
going to tell you that it is almost disorienting to
see how transparent, uh this and this isn't a box
you check where look we're gonna, we're gonna give you
a pageantry, We're gonna it's all. It's all performative. There
is something liberating and I will tell you that having
been a public servant, when your story never changes, because

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you don't change your story in front of whatever audience
you're in front of, you can always be consistent. You
can let anybody drop in and listen to your conversations.
If what you're saying you can say in front of
any audience that would be listening. And that's what you're
seeing from this presidency. I think there's a lot that
administrations do where they they hold it back, they might
not share everything they they've been This president is bringing

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America along for the ride and letting them see exactly
what's happening, good, bad, whatever it may be. But they
can always let you in and see it because their
story doesn't change. This is the president that ran for president,
and the things he's doing today are exactly the things
he campaigned on. It's been refreshing to see. I see.
We have a caller on the line. I want you
if you can hold over. We're going to a break

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right now, but want to get back to our calls.
I'm so glad to see that our listeners are joining
me on the show today, on this Friday as we
finish up our week. So hang on the line and
we will get back to you when we come back
from the break. You're listening to Utah's Talk Radio one
oh five nine. Okay, interests, Friday isn't the end of
a week. It's the end of the vacation. He's heading
home here Utah at some point. But while he's been

(16:42):
out enjoying you know, the sun and the sand, we've
been working hard. We've been we've been dropping truth bombs.
We've been talking about issues all week long. But what
I I is the you know, running this board, this
NASA like board, what I don't like about this week
looking backwards is I didn't get to hear enough from you,
our listeners, and so thankfully I've put the call out.
I've asked for listeners on you know, to because it

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is kind of like an open line Friday to call
and just give your take on what you're hearing, what
we've talked about. Love to have have our guests as
part of the show again. I want to be part
of the show. Eight eight eight five seven zero eight
zero one zero. So without delay, let's go to the
phones and let's talk to Charlie and Orum who's been
on hold. Charlie, thank you for calling in on this Friday.

(17:26):
What's on your mind? Sir?

Speaker 3 (17:28):
Sure? Greg?

Speaker 8 (17:29):
Thanks great job flying solo all week. Thanks the I
was I was listening to the to the Trump speech
that you were just playing a few minutes ago, and
I thought, there's some really interesting points you brought up.
First off, you know, God only made one of you,
so be comfortable in your skin and and and have
confidence and you know, be unique. The most important one though,

(17:52):
that I thought you mentioned was don't be a victim, right.
I mean, you look at this past generation and you
know everybody is whining, there's snowflakes, it's you know, they're
all playing the victim card. There's no ingenuity that comes
out of out of victimhood. So you know, I do
think that this generation does have a tremendous opportunity to

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influence the world, but they're not going to do it
by playing the victim card.

Speaker 1 (18:16):
Here here, Charlie and I couldn't agree more. And I'm
glad you brought those up, because those are some of
that advice you just don't hear or I've not heard
in the past presidents to talk about, you know, God
only made one of you. I mean, that is so true,
But yet I don't hear that often, I think, and
when you have public servants that speak in events like this,
But that victimhood is all about this identity politics that

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just took hold for so long and it's still out there.
But what it does is, I just think it is
weak as water. I think it is a weak place
to come from. It doesn't steal anyone's resolve to address
and overcome adversity. It's some kind of excuse, and it
almost once you get a culture of victimhood, you almost
aren't validated as a person, you don't have stand to

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have an opinion unless you can point to some victimization
that you were a part of, which I think would
just be kryptonite to this country, to the the American might,
to the American dream, everything that we that makes this
country I think a city on the hill. So I
absolutely love the take. Again, going back to that, I
think the President in that speech, he also says you

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got to be an outsider. Don't you love hearing a
guy say this. It's not about you know what what
you know, it's who you know. It's he says, You've
got to be an outsider. You've got to be willing
to say things that people you know are afraid to say.
You don't let fear get in the way. Take those
chances that never lose momentum. I just I don't know,
I just I just really appreciated those those points that

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he left with those students, and I think they applied
to every single one of us and I and to
the point about whether you know you're a victim or not,
who and who and who's grown up or who can
live a life and not look at something that is
unpleasant that's happened to you, and and it's just it's
your choice. Is it going to make you stronger if
it didn't kill you, did it make you stronger? Or

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is it going to own you? And is it going
to negatively impact the rest of your life? I think
we can all. I think I've never wanted to embrace
anything that's been negative in my life. At least I've
always wanted to see it as a way to overcome
and and try to learn from it or be stronger
from it. Let's go back to the phone calls. Let's
go to a Brad and provo. Brad, thank you for

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calling into the Rotting Greg Show on this Friday Open
Line Friday. What's on your mind?

Speaker 6 (20:31):
Hi, thanks for taking my call. I'd just like to
bring up something that my Democrat friends argue with me about,
and they say that Trump has has shut down the
immigration offices abroad and bottlenecked the immigration process. And I

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think that's something the Republicans need to look at. Is
let's scream line this process so that we can get
more here faster because we need him here for the jobs.
And Yeah, I just think that would be a good
a good point to bring up.

Speaker 1 (21:14):
Brad. I like the point and let me tell you,
I've always been for a very tall wall, but a
wide gate if you don't have a practical way. We
had a caller, a listener who called in who owns
a landscaping business and and he described the process. He
goes to legally have people that come from from Mexico
come from south of the border with the work visa
for the season of landscaping. They come and they work

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with for him, and then they go back and it's
a it's it follows a lot. Everything works right until
it doesn't. And there's been federal bureaucracy that has tied
that up. He's had workers he depended on to come
in the springtime that came late in the in the
in the season for landscaping in the summer. And so
you have a we have a caller that's a small
business owner doing his level best to follow the law strictly,

(21:59):
a lot that's supposed to be there for issues like
you described, Brad, and it's failing and you have to
have that process work well or else it's a perverse
incentive for people to break the law because the legal
way through is not working as it's been promised or
as it's been stated by law, and so I think
that you're exactly right. The way you keep the border safe,

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the way you keep the border protected, is that the
laws that you have on the books for how you
get bring people in legally, they have to be practical,
they have to work, and that's also going to contribute
to a safe border. So thank you for the comment
and the observation. I concur Now let's go to Diana
and Riverton. Diana, Welcome to the Roddy Gregg Show on

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this open Line Friday.

Speaker 3 (22:48):
Good to talk to you.

Speaker 9 (22:49):
I appreciate it, and I think you do a great job.
I just wanted to say that I.

Speaker 5 (22:53):
Read an article in the Desert News recently where a fellow,
a journalist, was saying that he really appreciates a lot
of the people. So many people that he's met who
have been immigrants and he's interviewed them and so forth.
And one that I really appreciated was the fellow who
said that when he came here, he just wanted to

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make some success for his family, and he was really
surprised when he got here and found that Americans worked
so hard.

Speaker 9 (23:27):
And I thought, boy, is that ever a lesson the
world needs to know. It's not that everything is just
so easy in America and money growth on trees. It's work.
It's just our culture and if you're honest and you
work hard, you can make it.

Speaker 1 (23:43):
Diane, You're so so right. And I will tell you that.
You know, I grew up in southwest Pennsylvania. I grew
up in that rust belt in Pittsburgh that they talk about,
and I saw manufacturing go away in my high school years.
I saw the steel industry really just go out of
business right in front of my eyes. But I will
tell you that I grew up in a community with
uncles and grandparents, grandmothers, grant all my family, all my friends,

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family members. There is dignity and work. It didn't matter
what your job was. What mattered is that you worked,
You supported yourself, you supported a family, and there was
great dignity in that. Nobody looked down at each other
for those things. People that were just living off the
dole or not working, or appearing to just live off
of the work of others. There wasn't a lot of

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patience for that. But all work has an incredible dignity
to it, and so I appreciate that observation. As well. Look, look,
please keep calling eight eight eight five seven zero eight
zero one zero. If you have a caller comment about
the things we've talked about, going to go to your
calls first. You'll be like the red telephone line when
if you call in, we'll come to your calls. If

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we don't have calls. We got some economic report as
well to share at some point during the show, some
economic news that I think is important to highlight and
to describe. So we got a lot on the show, folks,
a lot going on. So stay with us here on
the Rotting Gregg Show. You're listening to Talk Radio one
oh five nine. Canteris rod is on vacation. Last day
of his vacation. I'm sure he's heading back. Here's to

(25:08):
you time. One of these days he'll be back. We'll
be back the Rodding Gregg Show. Wrought will be back
here Monday. We'll both be here. And until then, we're
having fun on this Friday. It's a Friday, it's the
end of the week. Whatever you're doing to end your day.
Thank you for making us a part of it. We've
had some great calls. If you'd like to be part
of the program. Eight eight eight five seven zero eight
zero one zero is the number to call eight eight

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eight five seven zero eight zero one zero. Okay, folks,
let me tell you jobs report came in second or
Department of Labor put out the jobs for that were
gained or lost in the month of April. And I'm
going to tell you that the drum roll, please, do
you think we lost jobs with all that the regime

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media and the leftists and the Democrats have been saying,
or do you think we gain jobs? Well, I know
this audience isn't surprised, but contrary to what the popular
belief amongst the left is, we had a very robust
jobs report come in. One hundred and seventy seven thousand
jobs added to the economy in the month of May,

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excuse me, April, and that is higher the economists we're
expecting that increase. They were expecting an increase, but they
thought it'd be about one hundred and thirty thousand jobs.
It was one hundred and seventy seven thousand. Better news,
The strength of hiring is coming from the private sector,
unlike the past administration, where government jobs were really the

(26:31):
bulk of what you saw growing. Which makes no sense
to me that that's an economic indicator when government has
to print money to make it happen. Are the strength
of the job growth has been from private sector jobs.
Economists did not expect the private sector to add that
many jobs. They thought it'd be about one hundred and
twenty five thousand. It was one hundred and sixty seven thousand.

(26:51):
The participation rate of people that are employed has gone
up a little bit. We have about four hundred and
thirty thousand more people working now then we're last month.
That's a good sign hours of productivity. We're seeing more hours.
That means that demand for labor is growing, and we're
seeing that the average earnings are going up, not a ton,

(27:13):
but they're going up a little bit and a lot
more than what happened in March. April is seeing a
more than a percent increase in average earnings of those
jobs from month from March to April. Also construction sector
eleven thousand jobs, and a lot of those the specialty trades,
so the not the cheap labor. When we talk construction,

(27:33):
and everybody said that transportation and warehousing because of these
terrible tariffs, this was going to be the blowout. This
was going to be what sinks this economy was going
to be the big bad news, and the job report
it added twenty nine thousand jobs in the month of April,
which is the strongest growth we've seen this calendar year.

(27:55):
So also DOGE doing its job we've talked about, you know,
you're going to see some if you're counting a government
job as a positive. As you cut the bureaucracy and
the waste in the fraud and these jobs, you're going
to see that that number is going to at least
contract by way of government jobs. So in this same month,

(28:15):
you saw nine thousand less federal employment federal employee jobs,
so that's a contraction, and that number contributes to the
twenty six thousand federal payroll jobs that have contracted since
the beginning of the year. And as we've seen some
of the examples of how this federal government's been spending
money or what it's been employing people full time to do,

(28:36):
some of it has just been beyond I think a
lot of our comprehension in terms of those being jobs.
We want to see the fat, we want to see
the fraud, we want to see the things that government
shouldn't really be in the business of doing. We want
to really see that start to shrink and not take
the Democrats narrative that anything that's federal was an essential
service that needed to be done and if it's ever
taken away, you know, the sky starts to fall. That's

(28:58):
not that isn't what's going on. That's what's so that's
that's the good news. When we come back after this break,
actually after this top of the hour, we didn't have
Stephen Moore on. If you remember, Steven Moore is a
you know, he's a Trump economic policy advisor. He's on
all the all the TV shows on Fox News, on
Fox Business. I think he's even on CNBC sometimes. Anyway,

(29:19):
we didn't have him on the program yesterday. We usually
have him on on Thursday, but that doesn't stop him.
I have a clip of our our own I think
he's our guy, Steve Moore on UH on Fox Business
talking about these job numbers and what what we can
interpret from him. So we'll get into that when we
come back after the break, and again, folks would love
to hear your comments, your positions on the issues we've

(29:42):
been talking about. We're talking about immigration, talking about economy,
talking about uh uh, the tariffs, you name it, We've
we've spoken about it. I want to hear from you too.
So the number to call eight eight eight five seven
zero eight zero one zero, uh and uh, and feel
free to call. It's again Friday. We're going to make
it a little less less stressful and it can be

(30:05):
we can really talk about wherever you want. We talked
about Shudara Sanders don't want to talk to NFL draft,
talk about that too if you want. We're flexible here
on the show. Also, we'll get into remember that at
the five o'clock hour, we're going to talk about some
of these budget cuts that are on the wish list
for our president, things that he'd like to see Congress
cut from the butt federal budget. Some of those land

(30:26):
right here in Western states and particularly in Utah. Some
smart I think cuts being proposed or asked for by
the President that I hope Congress pays special attention to
that would actually allow our county leaders, our state leaders
to implement their land use plans, land use plans that
we have for the state, which is better than what

(30:47):
the Feds have ever done. So we'll get into that
also when we come back after the break. So hang
on There's more to come on Utah's Talk Radio one
oh five nine. Hey an arrest. Rod is not here.
He'll be back on Monday. He's been enjoying a vacation.
I'm flying solo. I've had a guest co host to
Carolyn Fippin with me, but she had some things to

(31:08):
work on today. Some things came up unexpected. Still willing
to be here for the program, but I thought it
would bring us bad bad juju, bad karma if she
were to come, because she's got important things she has
to tend to. But appreciate her willingness, but I can
handle it. Folks, with you, with you as our listeners
and calling in, we're talking about all the issues. We're

(31:29):
going to be just fine. We're going to finish this week,
this week, just right. So anyway, we've been talking about
a number of things, and I am going to play
for you a clip of our favorite guests are usually
regular guest Steven Moore. He is a White House Economic
policy advisor. He is an economist and does and he
is actually a talking head. You'll see him on a

(31:49):
lot of the news shows, different networks all the time
talking about the economy, its conditioned and also the agenda
that Trump is pursuing. Let's go to I want to
go to this clip real quickly. This was on Fox
Business talking about the newly released job reports that we
just went over before the last break. We went over

(32:10):
some of those numbers ourselves. But let's hear what Stephen
Moore had to say about the news that broke this morning.

Speaker 10 (32:16):
Four hundred and thirty six thousand increase in the number
of people who were employed. So this is an amazing report.
The number of people the labor force participation rate rose,
so this is a really strong number. I wanted to
mention one other quick thing.

Speaker 1 (32:33):
You know, about two.

Speaker 10 (32:35):
Weeks ago, every headline, Wall Street, Turtle, New York Times,
Washington Post, every was, oh, the stock market is crashing.
And since then the market has been up what like
two eight hundred points. Yeah, you don't see that head
I don't see headlines about that.

Speaker 4 (32:52):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (32:52):
Scott Besont made the same point today that, yeah, the
point is made from our side, which you never hear,
is that the other side I have yet to hear.
In fact, I'm gonna play for you later on CBS.
I'm gonna tell you they've gone on this complete propaganda
They are just telling you they here come the tariffs,
Here comes all the problems. They are just putting out
stories that aren't even stories. That's are we punishing China

(33:14):
for being good at being importers? Are you kidding me?
CBS is going to frame China as a victim. They
are doing that. They're gonna They're warning everyone all the
packages you get, they're all gonna go up. The sky
is literally falling. Well, let me just give you some
real data that's going on while they're telling you what's
gonna continue to come. SMP SMB five hundred is now
erased all of April's decline and is up over seven

(33:36):
hundred points. Uh and that is a record, uh since
the record low was hit a few weeks ago. Uh,
that's good news.

Speaker 6 (33:44):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (33:44):
We have also that Timu if you here's one of
those Chinese sites that you would expect to absolutely get
socked with a tariff because it's Chinese and it's a
lot of cheap stuff. I even I haven't signed up
for this. I'm afraid that app is just gonna like
I don't know, data mind me or something, So I
won't go on team. But people tell me there's really
good smoking deals on that app Temu. But they've just

(34:05):
announced today. Guess what they're going to do. They're going
to begin to source and ship products directly from the
United States instead of China to avoid those tariffs. Oh,
I guess that means warehousing transportation. I think if Teamu's
going to move those operations to the United States, isn't
that kind of what we were hoping would happen. Isn't

(34:25):
that one of the strategies in terms of realigning these
trade partnerships. Seeing more activity happening here in America, and
the company's announcing that they do not expect to raise
prices at all. Everyone's been using that Temu apps like
the poster child for how much more you're going to
end up paying. Apple is just confirmed that nearly all

(34:45):
their iPhones are going to be built outside of China.
This in addition to around nineteen billion dollars nineteen billion
chips are all set to be manufactured right here in
the United States. That was an information that hit today.
And again this is from Joe Contact, who I like.
He just said, he's it's just just his observation. It's

(35:06):
weird how people obsessed with the performance of the DOW
and SMP have gone radio silent. If the SMP goes
green today, we're looking at its longest streak in twenty
one years, and it did go into green today, so
we have that to brag about. We have a caller
on the line and it is open line Friday, so
let's go to Skip in Eagle Mountain. Skip. Thank you

(35:27):
for holding. Welcome to the Rod and Greg Show.

Speaker 4 (35:32):
Thank you, citizen huge and appreciate all you're talking about
and so on the economy. I'm hoping you can hear me.

Speaker 1 (35:39):
I can thank you for calling. I hear you a
lot of fun.

Speaker 4 (35:41):
Okay. I want to put a voice out there for
small town America where I grew up, and I'm sure
this story resonates with many was back when I was
growing up, they took what they have what you call
the free trade Agreement, so I'm sure you're familiar with that. Okay. Well,

(36:02):
they first they took your our forest from the environmentalist
causes and stuff like this. So our sawmill was sold
and shipped to China. Okay, so that went away. And
then they took away the oil, and then they took
away the uranium, and then they took away so then
they refused to open the one of the largest coal

(36:22):
reserves in the United States, and so among other things.
And then they told us then they declared the whole
place where we live as the National monument. Millions of acres,
but the perilans and so so now you couldn't turn
over a rock, you couldn't lease land, you couldn't They

(36:44):
took away the cattle business at that point, so they
took away all livelihood from everybody that lived there. And
it's not an easy place to live. My parents had
run five businesses. Well, they had thirteen children, so they
had run five businesses on order just feed our you know,
feed us. What I'm what I'm talking about is releasing,

(37:06):
leasing releases, changing that through the administration. Now that we
have the opportunity so that companies can come back. It's
really difficult to rebuild the sawmilk and scratch or a
uranium business. For scratch, it's really difficult to go out,
and it's not as difficult to go out and start

(37:28):
pumping capped off wells. However, the refinement the refined when
the refinery was shut down, because we took a lot
of our business from the Navajo Nation they pumped the
oil where we refined it, and it supplied our entire region.
But now, what my thought process was is if the

(37:50):
if the federal government would let the people, especially here
in the Western United States, access and use the resources
and stop over regulating us in the Western United States
would become like a bread basket of many of the
materials and the things that we need as a nation.

Speaker 1 (38:09):
Skip I could not agree with you more and I'd
ask you to hold on through this hour because we're
going to have an interview with thank you for the
call with us with the you know what's it called
the Center for Western Priorities. Now they're a little worried
about the changes that Trump is proposing in terms of
what you're talking about, and that is having our state
as it used to be, have a lot more control

(38:32):
or say over the management of land. And I've been
to some of these rusted out lumber yards that used
to thrive, used to thin out some of the public
lands so that if there was a lightning striker, there
was a wild fire, it didn't just it wasn't a
tinder box and destroyed millions of acres, and you had
an economy, you had a timber industry here uranium. If
ninety six percent of our rare minerals are extracted and

(38:55):
processed in China, there is no good scenario for that.
And with the irony being that in grants in our
mining industry here, just in Utah alone, forget about the
rest of the country, we have the ability to mine
rare minerals, process rare minerals. As you pointed out, there
are so many opportunities to get this going. We have
a present that's identifying it. He has a budget that's

(39:16):
looking at pulling back some of the things that the
federal government spends on that actually get in our way
that we can see Middle America, working America, rural America
come back and come back strong. So we're going to
talk about some of that. Some of that we're going
to talk about that actually in the in our when
we come back from let's see actually that's at five
p thirty five, we'll have that interview. But when we

(39:36):
come back, we're going to talk more about this economy,
more about the good things that are happening here and
in the United States here in Utah on Talk Radio
one oh five nine k n RS. I have a friend,
my dumb friend. D Hey, he said he's listening to
this show on some other radio app and it was
cutting in and out, just just and I tell him,

(39:57):
just get the iHeartRadio app. It's free. How do you
hate free? Just get the iHeartRadio app. So I'm sure
everybody else isn't going to some alternative radio app to
listen to the show, But if you are, I think
that your best bet is the iHeart Radio app. So
make sure you get that. We've been discussing the economy
and its condition and how it's kind of just flying

(40:21):
in the face of the pearl clutching doomsday saying leftists
that are telling you that everything's gone wrong. Everything's going wrong.
By the way, if you look at at CBS and
this is this is just unbelievable. Hang on, I'll never
mind my phone, so I will read you some of

(40:42):
the headlines coming out of CBS and you won't believe it.
But let me play for you right now. Our Labor
Secretary Secretary Lori Shove is a derrimer. She is a
Trump's labor secretary and she was on Fox Business today
talking about the economic numbers that the Department of of
Labor put out today about April in the economic condition.

(41:04):
Let's hear what she has to say about how she
interprets the stat they are the numbers, and how she
sees the United States and its economy moving forward.

Speaker 11 (41:13):
You know, here last month we said we blew it
out of the water, and we did. And with President
Trump at the helm, I'm telling you he mentioned to
the American people over and over again that the Golden
age was coming.

Speaker 10 (41:26):
I will tell you the.

Speaker 11 (41:26):
Golden ages here exactly right. Again, this is another great
jobs report, exactly what the market expected, better than expected.
And I couldn't be more honored to serve under the
President with these jobs numbers. And now as I continue
on the road, we're going to keep pounding the pavement
and these numbers are going to continue to grow go up,
you know.

Speaker 1 (41:47):
So there you go. Yeah, they should be bullish again.
One hundred and seventy seven thousand jobs added in April.
Unemployment held about the same, didn't move anywhere. Gains were
led in healthcare, transportation, warehousing. Federal jobs fell as we
would hope, Wages up three point eight percent year over year.
Labor force participation is up. It's not up ton, but

(42:10):
it's up it's growing anyway, it is. These are good
This is good news. These are numbers that if the
if it was the Biden administration, you would have ticker
tape parades. You'd have people just swinging from chandeliers telling
you that happy days are here again. It would be
the greatest news anyone's ever heard. A robust economy that
no one could ever imagine could arrive. It would be celebrated,

(42:32):
it would be herald It is the greatest thing. None
of that's the case. I'm staring at a CBS news
report that that ignores all of what you just heard,
so it can tell you cheaper goods from China are
set to become a lot more expensive for US consumers
with the May second expiration of a loophole that allowed
lower cost packages to enter the country duty free. Well

(42:55):
we should put some dunt dunt dun music behind that.
CBS isn't done another another headline. Are Trump's tariffs just
punishing China for being good at what it does? Are
we just punishing? Are we just punishing China? Is China
a victim in all of this trade partnership and scenarios
that we're talking about where they tariff the ever living

(43:16):
daylights out of anything. We'd like to send a three
hundred plus million people in a working middle class in
China that would that would be that would be profitable
if we could actually export into that country that they
stop and they don't let you do it. You have
to have your manufacturing there in their country to avoid
prohibitive tariffs that make it impossible. By the way, another
news came out quiet China's not bragging about this, but

(43:37):
they're lowering tariffs on some of the imports because it's
already hitting their job market, their job market because of
this that what Trump's doing is already impacting their jobs
in a negative way. And so they're trying to loosen
up some of that trade relationship. And they're not bragging
about it because they talk so big about it, but
it's it's actually what's going on. And so we're going

(43:58):
to continue to see this. We're we're going to have
to tell you when we see the good news coming
because you know, the regime media is not going to
explain any of it, and we're going to and we're
going to define or actually translate for you the stuff
that they try to tell you is the worst in
the world. By the way, Queen Bee showed me if
we were paying seven dollars and forty nine cents seven
dollars thirty nine cents for eighteen eggs, she sent me

(44:19):
a text that said, it's five dollars thirty two cents
for eighteen eggs. So finally we're starting to see some
of those some of those prices that we've heard nationally
are coming down, starting to make its way here to Utah.
Now I'm waiting for the gasoline we're going to I mean,
we should see, we should see our gas prices dropping
big time, and they haven't yet. And that's a little

(44:39):
under my skin. So I'm still going to be on
that one watching and waiting for our gas, our relief
at the gas station to come. All right, folks, when
we come back, we have a guest. We are going
to speak with Aaron from the Center for Western Priorities.
They're a little worried about the Trump cuts. We're going
to talk about that and talk about why we think
Utah is so well positioned to take some of this

(45:02):
responsibility and manage this state. As most states get to do,
Utah is ready to do it here. And we don't
need the FEDS from Washington, d C. To tell us
how to do the job. So we'll talk to Erin
when we come back after the break. You are listening
to Utah's Talk Radio one oh five nine. Cannais your
comments issues that we're speaking about today, even stuff that

(45:22):
we spoke about during the week. Eight eight eight five
seven zero eight zero one zero is the number to call.
But joining me right now is Aaron Weiss. He is
the ex deputy director of the Center for Western Priorities. Erin,
welcome to the program. Oh that's me, okay, Erin, here's
the deal Erin, here's the deal.

Speaker 4 (45:42):
Hey, Hey, there we go.

Speaker 1 (45:44):
Hey, hey, I am flying solo. My listeners have had
to endure this all week. I am flying solo in
this NASA like board of which I am operating is
usually my co host and veteran rod Arquit, and so
I've had to do it. So I've had a couple
of amateur moments like we just had now. But thank
you for joining us on the show.

Speaker 7 (46:01):
I'm glad you found the right button.

Speaker 1 (46:02):
I did, Okay, So now look, I just I read
your statement that came out from the Center for Western Priorities,
and I think I might, I think I put it
in my email. I might have a little bit of
a different take. But I know there's some concern about
some of the budget cuts that President Trump and the
Administration Department of Interior are recommending Congress consider. Maybe you
could share with our listeners some of the areas that

(46:23):
are of alarm or of concern that you put out
in your news release.

Speaker 7 (46:29):
Sure, I mean, we're looking at proposed five billion dollars
in cuts from America's parks, forests, and waters, as well
as from Native American tribes. Certainly, the most concerning proposal
here is posting cutting nine hundred million dollars from National
Park Service operations. And they propose giving away or selling

(46:52):
certain National park properties to the states, and they don't
spell out which ones they're looking at, selling off or
getting rid of national forests as well, they're looking to
undo national monument protections, cutting a half billion dollars from
USGS research. It's a pretty bleak vision for public lands

(47:16):
across the West.

Speaker 1 (47:17):
So I know this the Center for Western Priorities, that
you embrace the discussion and the debate and information and
good information drives good decisions. So let me ask you,
I just like you to consider just a couple of
different things, because here in the state of Utah, the
resources that the federal government would bring to bear for
a state like Utah, which is sixty six plus percent
federally owned and managed, becomes a hardship sometimes. I mean,

(47:40):
it's getting fiber across, it's getting utilities across federal lands.
It has penned us in in many ways in the
Wasatch Front Valley into certain areas of the state. When
it comes to say, even are the national monuments we
have found, whether it was President Clinton or President Obama,
they were already federal lands, They already had federal management.

(48:02):
But when they got that monument designation, it really alienated
some of those even rural communities that had greater access
to that land with the implication that they weren't very
good stewards of that land. And what we've seen in
the years since some of those national monuments have been
created is it becomes more crowded actually, and some of
the things that we would hope to preserve or Nazi
damage because they become they elevate to this monument status.

(48:25):
There's even more traffic, more search and rescue, things like that.
Is there any realm of possibility for you to consider
that maybe some of this ought to be right sized
where it's not a monument, it may stay's federal land,
or that these lands could be managed by land plans
of rural counties or the state. Is there any room
for that?

Speaker 7 (48:44):
Erin, Well, I got to tell you where you are
is at a step with where the rest of Utah is.
Colorado College asks about this every year. They have a
big poll called Conservation in the West across eleven states,
and they've asked this question sending every state over the years,
and in Utah this year, fifty seven percent of Utah

(49:06):
voters oppose giving state government control over national public lands,
including national monuments. There's a recognition that the state doesn't
have the resources to manage those lands. And what you're
suggesting here that if everyone just puts their figures in
their ears and pretends in the era of Instagram, visitors

(49:26):
won't discover these amazing public lands that Utah has.

Speaker 4 (49:30):
I think that's fantasy land.

Speaker 1 (49:32):
Well, I think that again, this is a discussion. There's
no This isn't one of those news shows at night
where people are just shouting, We're just having a good
conversation two of us. If these were long standing national
monuments where you don't remember at era or a time
prior to them receiving that designation, it may be worrisome
whether the whether they could be managed or how they

(49:53):
would be managed. Given that these are more recent, whether
it's I think the Clinton years are more recent Staircase
Escalon or the Bears Ears Monument. The world was working
pretty well. There was a good management happening. These lands
were not being abused at least for if you were
to talk to the people that were there. I think
when you look at it, I think when you look
at a poll. One of the tough parts about the
demographics of Utah is when so much of when you

(50:15):
get off this Watatch Front, we got four counties aaron
out of twenty nine counties where seventy five percent of
the population live. And that's who this audience is. But
when their perspective or their hands on experience of what
it looked like to have a land managed by the
county or it be federal land but not a monument,
it's more of a luxury belief for something that they

(50:35):
don't have hands on experience. It can again I'll go
back to it. Can it be possible for the state
to take some of this role and take the management
of this where they're closer to the people, closer to
the land, to be able to manage it responsibly.

Speaker 7 (50:51):
Well, what you're talking about is good discussions on the ground,
which is in fact, where good land management happens. That
is what the process of creating any land management plan,
for a national monument, for blm lands, for a forest service.
Those decisions are best formed and shaped by conversations on

(51:12):
the ground. And that's why it's so concerning what we've
seen the Trump administration do where they have taken all
of that authority and given it to one of Elon
Busk's Lackey's a guy named Tyler Hassen who works for DOGE,
and he now has complete control over the Interior Department's

(51:32):
organization and reorganization. And this budget proposal proposes even giving
Tyler all of the authority over wildfire.

Speaker 3 (51:41):
This is a guy who.

Speaker 7 (51:42):
Came out of some company in Texas, has no relevant
experience on public lands, certainly not on fighting wildfire. So
what you're talking about there having those conversations on the
ground to know how the land should be managed. You're
absolutely correct, and that should not be centralized with a
guy from DOSEE in Washington.

Speaker 1 (52:03):
Okay, we'll let you have the last word there because
we're coming up on a break. But Hey, Aaron, I
do appreciate you calling, and maybe we'll have all we
can continue this discussion as this budget process moves along.

Speaker 7 (52:13):
Happy to talk any time.

Speaker 1 (52:14):
Hey, thank you. That's Aaron Weissman from all Righty. Thank you,
Aaron Wiseman from the Center for Western Priorities. You could
tell that we're not seeing things exactly the same way,
but I'll tell you that those discussions have to happen
because it really is the case that we have some
disconnect in terms of what the federal government thinks is
good management of that land. We had a caller that

(52:35):
talked about timber. When you're able to thin out the
wilderness or the federal wilderness so that it doesn't become
a dead tinder box and destroy millions of acres through
lightning strikes, things like that. The state management plans, county
management plans address that, I think a lot more efficiently
than some of the destruction we've seen from wildfires in
the past. But it's good to have the conversation. Don't

(52:56):
you think, Okay, we're gonna come back. We're gonna go
to a break. When we come back, we're gonna talk
more about this budget and some of those recommendations that
are in that wish list from the President in his
administration for Congress to consider when we come back after
the break. You're listening to Utah's Talk Radio one oh
five nine. Can Rest has had a great holiday. He
send me pictures rubbing it in. It's been you know,
the weather's getting a little better today. But boy, really

(53:18):
good to a Rod's ben. So we'll get a full breakdown.
I'm going to make him explain all the good times
he had on that vacation, just because the pictures look unbelievable.
So he'll be Rod Away back on Monday for the
Rodding Greg Show. And until then, we're just having a
fun Friday. We're just going to kick back. We're going
to talk what say you. I'd love to hear what's
on your mind. We're talking about a lot of different issues.

(53:40):
Eight eight eight five seven zero eight zero one zero
is the number to call questions comments. This last interview
that we just held, I knew that this was going
to be a take that's not one that I share,
but it's good to hear what the other side's saying
in terms of they think that it's very dangerous for
the federal government to not have as strong overall in
the management of federal lands. Now, look, if you're talking

(54:00):
about some desert rocks that are in the middle of nowhere.
That's one thing I know. If you look at how
states in the United States became states, they went from
territories to states. When you're east of the Mississippi, it
was the case that that land got transferred over to
states and then they did whatever they did. You don't
have even large portion, you don't have a quarter of

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a state east of the Mississippi that's federally owned and
managed and controlled land. You have the states that have
control over their own states get west of the Mississippi.
And it was around the time, believe it or not,
of when the income tax came federal income tax. So
the federal government used to see resources or dollars if
they were transferring those lands with the states. But then

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once they got an income tax, they weren't so cash hungry,
so they wanted to start keeping in some of that
land well, in Utah, that amounts to sixty six plus
percent of the land area in the state of Utah
is federally owned and controlled, and there are some parts
I think that you don't need to whether it's federal land.
If it's BLM Bureau of Land Management land, it's fine,

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I guess. But what we've seen is as we've grown
as a population is we're now over three million people,
we are being penned in folks when you can only
grow because the four Wassatched Front counties are not a
majority of federal land. When you see that seventy five
percent of the state of Utah's population is in four

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counties in a valley, we talk about, you know, congestion,
We talk about the cost of living going up, the
quality of life going down. It's because we're building on
top of ourselves. We're very crammed into the state. Then
you get all the other state counties where the quality
of life is better, the cost of living is lower,
but our ability to grow economically and see those those

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communities grow are hindered by the control of federal government.
But that the federal government has over the land, we
can't get even infrastructure through there there's a better solution
than the one that we're seeing. And I would argue
that the Trump's approach on how the federal government is
going to you know, marshal its resources, it's what should
be finite resources in the state of Utah. You give

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the State of Utah a shot, and we're going to
be able to handle our business. When Obama shut down
the whole government, national parks were shutting down, and Utah said, hey,
we're going to leave it open. We got people that
came from all over the world to go to Zion
National Park. They're all lined up. You shut the gate.
We're going to go ahead and open that gate. State
of Utah is going to handle this while you guys
in Congress sorted out with Obama administration and the State

(56:31):
of Utah was able to do it. We're able to
manage that national park design national Park while the rest
of the national parks and Obama had shut down the government.
And so there's a capacity to do this. I've seen it.
I know that our county commissioners, I know our state
have land land planned management plans that can work. And
going back to the earlier caller, there was a good

(56:52):
robust lumber industry, timber industry here in the state of
Utah before Clinton banned the cutting down of these trees
and thinning out these trees in these Bureau of Land
Management federal lands, which was actually good conservation. It kept
those wildfires from getting away from us and helped create
an economy of lumber yards that were multi generational and
were pretty important to our economy. We lost that. We

(57:15):
lost that in spade when I ran for governor in
twenty twenty, touring some of those old abandoned lumber yards
was sad, and so there's a lot that we have
lost over time. NAFTA, some of the environmental movement on
federal lands and decisions made Bearsiers national monument. You talk
to the people on the ground in San Juan County,

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they were good stewards of the land, and to suggest
that they weren't as pretty offensive to the people that
live there. When Obama announced that from Hawaii at the
end of his presidency that that was now going to
be a national monument, he put a posted a picture
that wasn't even of the state of Utah. That's how
connected he was to that decision. Okay, folks, when we
come back, we're going to have more issues things to

(57:57):
talk about, So you want to hang on over the
break Listening to Talk Radio one to five nine Canteras
flying Solo this week, I want to thank my guest
co host Carolyn Fippen, who was with us Monday through Thursday.
She had something to come up today that was that
absolutely required her time. That if she would have come
and she was willing to, I think it would have
been bad karma. I think the show would have It

(58:19):
might have just I don't know. We just did. We
needed her to be where she's at right now, and
so appreciate her willingness to be here today. But I
think it's good that she's dealing with whatever whatever unexpected
came up today. So I want to but I want
to thank Carolyn for it was a fun time while
we were co hosting together. She's worked with me when
I was Speaker of the House as a house staffer,

(58:39):
and she worked as Senator Lee's a staffer, and she
ran for the US Senate last year. And she's just
a smart one. She knows her stuff and so it's
been fun to be on the show with her this week.
Monday is when Rod will be back and then he's
going to give us the lowdown on on what you know,
how the other half live. You know, they get to
go golfing and get to go in the beach and

(59:01):
everything else. So we're gonna hear from Rod when he
comes back, So the show gets back to normal. I
get away from this NASA like board. I man, I'm
telling you what I got post it notes on this
thing I've been trying to it's been you know, and
it's day five. I can get to it easier than
I could on Monday, and so I'll just get to
a point where the muscle memory's working. And then on

(59:21):
Monday I'm gonna go over the other chair and Rudd'll
take it back over again and I'll forget it all
and I'll have to relearn it again for the next time.
But look, if you want to call into the program,
we'd love to hear from you. It is the one
thing that I thought, in hindsight with the show this
week that I just felt a little lacking. I didn't
hear enough from our good listeners and your perspective, your take.

(59:44):
If you'd like to call the program, it's open line
on Friday. We can talk about whatever you'd like. Eight
eight eight five seven zero eight zero one zero is
the number to call. Eight eight eight five seven zero
eight zero one zero. I had a discussion last night
about immigration, and it was a it was a podcast
that I agreed to do, and I just was a

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little taken aback, taken back by some of my Democrat friends,
where when you're talking about illegal immigration, sometimes they're strongest retort.
And I guess I shouldn't be surprised by this, but
I because I hear it nationally, but I don't hear
it as often from those that I know and that
are Democrats. It's that when you go over the numbers

(01:00:26):
and you say, okay, look you there is undeniable that
what Biden was doing during his four years in office,
and the encounters and the millions of people that were
coming across, and the new definition of asylum which had
never been used before where you just say the word
and in three to five years you get a hearing
someday somewhere. Uh The way that the law was ignored,

(01:00:48):
the way that the law was not enforced, the mess
that we have where every state feels like a border state,
whether it's your public safety, whether it's your schools, whether
it's your jobs, whether it's the housing. All of these
things are being impacted measurably. We feel this, and having
that discussion with with my friends that I would think

(01:01:08):
would at least be able to concede some of these points,
they see none of it. None of what I just
said exists in real life to them, and they go
to the you hate brown people argument. I again, it's
just you can't have a thought in the space of
illegal immigration, what it's doing to our country. You have
to be accused of lacking, just failing, having a moral

(01:01:33):
failure that you just hate brown people. That's what you are.
You are hating brown people if you have an issue
with way immigration worked. The worst part about that is,
I said, all right, then defend what in the world
was going on for Biden during that time? You want
that to come back? And the answers, they don't answer
that question. They say, it's everybody's it's everybody's fault. It's everyone's,

(01:01:54):
it's every everyone's at fault. It's not. It's not it's
not anyone's. It's not Biden, and it's not Trump. But
Trump's certainly not doing it. Right, is what they say.
I'm gonna tell you what he's doing, right, Okay, I'm
going to tell you how Obama got the three million
plus deportations or removals. Okay, because the left never speaks

(01:02:15):
about this. You never hear the left talk about what
their last two term president. I know Biden was there
for four years and we but we know what he did.
But let's go and let's let's have a visit on
what it meant. If you were the Biden Obama administration,
how in the work something to myself? I don't even
know how you you would have to deport I'm not

(01:02:37):
kidding you. If you were in office for eight years,
for you to get over three million removals and deportations,
you have to have over twenty three hundred deportations a day,
assuming it's a Monday through Friday deal. I didn't count weekends.
But if court's open the way they want Trump to
do it right now, in court is open and Monday

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through Friday, you would have to have over two than
three hundred judicial deportations a day. And I'm not counting Christmas.
I'm not counting a haul, I'm not counting Thursday. That's Thanksgiving.
I'm just saying, so, you know, if there's fifty two weeks,
subtract one hundred and four days for the two days
on a weekend, and it would be that high. Well,

(01:03:19):
we full well know, at least this audience knows that
is that is a statistical impossibility. This process, this so
called due process, that doesn't exist in federal law, the
way that the Democrats in these handpicked shopped around for
federal judges have argued for it was not done this
way with any president of any party, the way they're

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trying to create the rules. Now, so what did what
did President Obama do? Well, it's amazing going through the numbers,
seventy five to eighty three percent of his deportations were
non judicial. I'm gonna say that again, seventy five to
eighty three percent of the deportation or removals of that

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three plus million were non judicial. Now, there's a number
floating out there that he deported five million. That five
million number, as I've researched, this is actually the people
they turned away at the border. So if they were
going to the port of entry, if they were trying
to get across, but they were just stopped before they
could even get across. The Obama administration started counting those

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as removals or deportations. If you count those, his administration
deported over five million individuals. So let's not count those.
Let's not count the ones that they got to the
border and sent back. Let's talk about the ones that
came over and once they were here, were deported and removed.
Seventy five to eighty three percent were non judicial. They

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bypassed any immigration court hearing, any judicial oversight, none of it.
These were expedited removals. It happened from two thousand and
eight till twenty sixteen. So when you hear people talk
about do rule of law, on and on, they are
being selective in their logic. They're being selective in their outrage.

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Now I'll tell you they're not dumb, these democrats. One
of the ways that they were able to do it
is if you're coming across illegally, and you are close
enough to the border, and you're in a border state
county state, getting them back from whence they came is
easier than if you have as Biden's administration had NGOs
ready to fly all of these people as far away

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from that border as possible throughout all the states of
the United States, and why it makes it harder to
deport them like Obama was able to do again seventy
five to eighty three percent. By the way, don't assume
that because seventy five to eighty three percent were removed
through a non judicial process, that that means the rest
were judicial. They were not. There was administrative removals, and

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especially and you'll love this, those that were convicted of crimes,
those that were known criminals. There was no pause, there
was no court case, there was nothing. They took dangerous
criminals and without apology and expedition, expeditiously remove them from
this country. That is that's not even in the eighty
seventy five to eighty three percent that I'm talking about.

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So why they're doing this is they know that if
they can bog this system down and make it everyone
has to have a court hearing everybody, you just slow
it down in a way that no other president has
ever had to confront. They can keep them here because
you just don't have enough days. Think about if you again,
if you did it, if you had the numbers of
three million deported or removed illegal aliens, that Obama had.

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You have to have two thousand, three hundred court cases
a day where the final verdict it's a one day case.
You're assuming it's one day that they would hear the
case and deport them and give deportation orders twenty three
over twenty three hundred a day. It's statistically impossible, and
they know it, So why do so? That's why they
want to slow it down. Why does it help them?

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A point was made by a listener yesterday, and we
didn't share this on the air, but a listener pointed
out that usually in a democratically elected republic, if you
don't like who's representing you, the people will choose a
new candidate. Well, if you're the Democrats, you don't care
about the populace, you don't care about the voters. You
don't want you're not even looking for those that support

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President Trump and the majority of the country that did
and the electoral college of the states that did support
President Trump. You're not trying to win them back, you're
not trying to change their mind. You're leaving them for dead.
If you're the Democrats, you just need new voters. So
while we pick new representatives, the Democrats pick new voters,
and so they use those new people that are living

(01:07:42):
in this country so they can redistrict and times and
during the census to redistrict stronger Democrat seats and more
Democrat seats in Congress. And they're doing it because they
fully expect one day for these people that are here
illegally to be able to vote. And there is a
voting block that if you have in the millions here
in this country, spread out a lot of critical states.
It just takes, as we've seen in past elections, one

(01:08:04):
hundred and fifty thousand and thirty thousand in a given
state that can swing an entire states electoral college from
one candidate to another. That's all they're after. That's all
they care about. So so I got to go. I'm
pass to you on a break. I see we have
a call. I'll ask you to hold over till over
the break because if you would like to talk about
this issue, I'm I'm loaded for bear on this one.

(01:08:25):
I'm just I think the fixes in on what they're
trying to do to stop this president from trying to
restore this country or bring it back to some semblance
of normalcy after what's happened, and it's not because we
suffer from a moral failing. That we care about this
and we want to see this done right. So hang
on if your calls if eighty eight five seven eight
five seven zero eight zero one zero is the number

(01:08:46):
to call. If you're on the line, hang on over
the break and we'll be back after this break. You're
listening to Talk Radio one oh five to nine canteris
the Rod and Greg Show. Will resume with your two
co hosts. But I'm flying solo today. I want to
thank Carolyn Been for joining me Monday through Thursday. It's
been a lot of fun. She was great to work
with when I was in the House a speaker, and
she was a great staffer for Senator Lee, and she's

(01:09:08):
a great candidate run for a Senate too, And anyway,
she's just an important opinion leader I think here in
our state, and it was fun to have her join
us on the program. Running solo today. I saw, folks,
the greatest article I saw an article about Utah. Finally,
we used to be this, I used. I was foolish

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enough to just assume this would always be the case,
and that is that Utah is a net exporter of energy,
whether it be you know, oil, gas, coal, that we
would conssume everything we need as a state, and then
after we were all done with everything we need, we
could see an economy, an economic lift because we could
then be exporters. Well around twenty twenty that changed and

(01:09:53):
we did we were no longer a net exporter of
energy when we were seeing coal being used less and less.
Uh So, today's article when I saw that again, the
headline is that Utah is again an energy exporter. Thanks
to that, you win a basin crude oil. Joining us
on the program is Dushane County County Commissioner Greg Miles, Commissioner.

(01:10:17):
Thank you for joining us on the Rodd and Greg show. Well,
I do this all the time. Listeners. By the way,
you know that I just don't hit that button in time, Commissioner,
I gotta use this NASA like board. I gotta hit
this button, and for some reason it's a mental block.
I'm just not hitting it like I'm supposed to. But
thank you for being patient. Thanks for joining us on
the show.

Speaker 12 (01:10:37):
Hey glad to be here. Thanks for thanks for the
opportunity of happy to talk.

Speaker 1 (01:10:43):
Well, I know that you're a busy man. You've always
been busy when I was on the clock. You've always
been a hard working public servant. You represent this this basin,
Dushane County, and they they have they have ups and
downs and they but you, guys, it seems like you're
always coming out on top as you go along. Tell
me a look, tell our listeners, maybe share with our

(01:11:04):
listeners what it means for oil, because I think we're
talking about the crew that's that is really that put
Utah over the top with being in that exporter of energy.
What's it look like down there? Is it a great economy?
Does it have room to grow? What's the state of
things in the un basin?

Speaker 12 (01:11:23):
Well, right now, things are, things are good. We've definitely,
I like in our economy to a roller coaster, and
we've definitely seen the highs, but we know the valleys
and over the years, as you mentioned, the last several
have been rough. And you know, I worked in the

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oil industry for about fifteen years as a crane operator
and then a safety advisor, and I saw time and
time again because of the area that we live, we're
an isolated empire, and because we're disconnected transportation wise, we
would see money at the end of the budget cycle

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go to a different field where it was it was
easier to move the oil. We've worked on the un
Abase the railway project, and you know, our hope is
that we take the valleys out of the roller coaster ride.
We know that that price will dictate the up and
down of the economy a little bit, but taking the
bottom so that you know, one we when we head

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down that we don't go so low. And the unabas
and the railway project would help solidify that.

Speaker 1 (01:12:35):
So there's two things I want to talk about, and
one is that you had this, You had a rail
project that was permitted, ready to go, and in the
Biden administration they threw a wrench in it and they
got they got it stopped and halted. I think it
was in twenty twenty three. I'd like you to tell
me how you feel your appeal and being able to
get the reason that rail line is so critical to
get crewed from the Una basin. And this is what

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I want to share with our listeners is they might
not realize it's a waxi crewed or a lot of
it is where it's hot coming out of the ground.
But it will turn into a thick solid wax as
it cools down. That makes it a hard crude oil
to transport. But the good news about waxy crude is
high burning, low low low carbon, meaning it's that it

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can be a blendstock. If you have oil that has
a high pollutant level, your unique oil waxy crued in
U in a basin can be blended in to lower emissions,
lower the carbon in the in the gas or in
the fuel as it's being or fined. So tell me
what is the prospects of the delivery of your crewed

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and you and a basin and that rail line getting
put back on track and happening. It's one of the
largest I think rail projects in America. Is that going
to happen?

Speaker 12 (01:13:48):
I do believe it. Well. I you know, I gave
an interview here a couple of years ago, and we
had a little less than good luck in DC Circuit Court.
We did appel to the full circuit and we're denied,
and so the only other stop for us was to
head to the Supreme Court. The Supreme Court granted cert

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and I feel like the case went well. I feel
like our council made good arguments on why we had
followed all the rules. We had dotted all the ice
and crossed all the teas, and so we're awaiting the
Supreme Court decision right now. I hope that it'll be

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favorable and that we can get this project back on
track for what it means for our economy, but our
citizens in all aspects and facets of their lives moving
goods in and out of the base, and it's difficult,
and especially in the winter months when we have you know, Daniels,
and we've got Wolf Creek, and we've got Indian Canyon.

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Those those are the main routes for us to get
to the lost that front, and if there's a major
accident on one or two of those were stuck. So
we need another way to get goods in and out
of the base. And for agriculture, for the oil industry.
You know, there's a myriad of goods that we could
move on that reil project that would benefit you in

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the base and residence.

Speaker 1 (01:15:14):
Commission on behind, I'm supposed to take a break, and
I promise you a quick interview because I know you
had to stop that you're so busy, had to stop
just to make sure you had good service, just so
we could speak. But I just had one quick question
just I don't know if this is this is possible
to be a quick answer, But of our listeners along
the watch front who really aren't don't live in the
base and don't really have much involvement or touch on

(01:15:35):
our extraction industries, our oil industry, what does it mean
to Utah's economy to tax base things like that, to
take the harnesses off you, to let that industry thrive.
What would it mean for this state? It's taxes, it's economy,
it's huge.

Speaker 12 (01:15:52):
Greg. In a study that we did associated to the
U Innovation Railway project, we were lucky if the state
did nothing at all. And if we don't get that
rail bill, it's an opportunity of three billion dollars per year.
So the state is going to miss out on if
we don't get that rail bill. And each year we've

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seen an increase. Obviously we've been able to move more
oil to the Gulf and that's helped. That's helped so
that we're not having to clutch wells so that we
can keep the oil moving. But just a couple of
years ago, the you and the base and Douchhane and
you Inna counties had pumped one hundred and thirty million
dollars just in severance tax alone to the state. And

(01:16:37):
now this year our twenty four numbers. Excuse me, we're
in the hundreds of millions of dollars that the base
and economy has pumped through severance tax and the state coffers,
and I think all of the other added benefits to
the economy. It's big. It's it's billions of dollars a year.

Speaker 1 (01:16:58):
To be sure, we have to break. Thank you so
much for taking the time to speak with us. Thanks
for all that you're doing. Thank you for your leadership.
I don't think these things would happen without individuals like yourself.
They're always on the job, always working hard. Thanks again
for all you do.

Speaker 12 (01:17:11):
Hey, Thanks good to be with you.

Speaker 1 (01:17:13):
Thanks k folks. We're really behind here. I'm going to
go straight to the break. When we come back, We've
got a lot to discuss. You're listening to Talk Radio
one oh five nine. Canteris Scott, Welcome to the show.
Thank you for holding Thanks Greg.

Speaker 13 (01:17:25):
I wanted to talk to the member of the House
of Representatives you had on from you Innovation because I
have a contention about the oil and gas bubble like
claim that we live in here in the state of Utah.
Let me make these points quickly and then you shoot
the holes where I'm not right. So if we're in NET,
if we're in you might know this answer as a
former member, you know, speak of the house. If we're

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a net exporter, that means we're not importing anything into
those four oil refineries in Nor Salt Lakes. So I
contend that one again, fix me where I'm wrong.

Speaker 1 (01:17:58):
I I oh know, Scott, I lost you and front
we lost you for a second. Yef, we lost you
for a second, though you said, I contend, and then
probably your your content.

Speaker 13 (01:18:09):
I contend that of the gas that we use on
the Watside trund is refined out of those four refineries
in North Salt Lake, and that x sporder that means
that we control all we were one hundred control. We
live in this bubble, So why do we fluctuate with
national gas prices? I don't get it, Yes, Scott running

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and then hallo national gas price.

Speaker 1 (01:18:34):
So, my friend, I'm so glad you called.

Speaker 12 (01:18:35):
Now.

Speaker 1 (01:18:35):
I want to be clear. Greg miles Is is a
Duchane County commissioner. He's not a state representative, but that
means he's actually closer to this. But do you but
you're tracking this exactly right. So they have to take
those trucks, and because it's hot, when it comes out
of the ground and they put in those trucks, it's
still liquefied, but if it gets through room temperature, it
turns into wax and it's you can't get out of
the truck. So those trucks run at a high rate

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up to those refineries. As you've said, and we were
find it. We are independent on our oil, okay. And
there is not one single reason. I had discussion with
a friend that's still in a public servant right now
saying that when huntsmen saw this way back when, when
we saw this disparity in national gasoline cop prices and
what we were paying in Utah, they had a Department

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of Commerce investigated because there's something wrong with it. You're
tracking this right. We should not be paying three dollars
and sixty cents, three dollars and seventy cents when a
cruit of a barrel of crude. Right now, I think
it went down to fifty nine dollars yesterday. We should
be seeing much lower gas prices because we are energy independent.
So Scott, good call could catch. You're exactly right, and

(01:19:38):
I do think there has to be something done about
it to understand why we're on that lag. That lag
is not defensible. If eggs are coming down finally, which
shouldn't take that long, we certainly shouldn't see our fuel
come down the way it has. Let me go, Denny,
do we have time for another call? Okay, let me
take another quick call. This is Gary called earlier. Gary,

(01:20:00):
thank you for calling back. Welcome to the Rod and
Greg Show. What's on your mind? Sir?

Speaker 14 (01:20:05):
So I wanted to talk about the immigration thing?

Speaker 1 (01:20:08):
Yes, sir, we're talking.

Speaker 14 (01:20:09):
About how how the Democrats they want.

Speaker 6 (01:20:14):
To bring all.

Speaker 14 (01:20:15):
These these people in because they're going to turn them
into Democrat voters. See how they've losen, they're losing their base.
They're trying to rebuild them with illegals.

Speaker 4 (01:20:24):
Yes, if that's.

Speaker 14 (01:20:26):
The case, why would Obama be checking out three million
illegal love it?

Speaker 1 (01:20:31):
It's a great question, Gary, And I'll tell you why,
because back then, when he was president, being tough on
crime was actually important to all voters. It wasn't just
a Republican issue. In fact, a lot of the very
tough on immigration laws that we have were in the
Clinton era. Thank you for the call. It's look, folks,

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there is in a scenario where somebody walks across the
border illegally and walks into the voting booth and votes.
But it is a hundred percent the fact that back
when Obama was president, and why he was tough on
crime and why you saw these deportation numbers as high
as they were, is it because it was it was
a high priority with voters generally, this did not fall
on political lines as much in between two thousand and

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eight and twenty sixteen, and certainly prior to two thousand
and eight, in the Clinton era, you had an incredible
amount of political pressure. I can play a Chuck Schumer
floor speech where he's saying, we have to have ID.
People have to have ID to work. It's easy to have.
Everybody has it. If they go on a plane or
they go to go to a bank, it's fraud. And

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he was arguing for ID, and he was arguing against
illegal immigration. And that was Chuck Schumer not that long ago.
So why did Obama do such a good job of
deporting three plus million people because back then we were
all pretty much in agreement of the common sense of
it all that you got to have laws of the
land and you got to protect the border. So great question. Gary,

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appreciate it, and it shows. It's a sad narrative of
how times have absolutely changed and not for the good
when it comes to the left. Anyway, we got We're
going to go to a break and we'll have our
final segment here on this Friday of the Rodd and
Greg Show. You're listening to Talk Radio one oh five
nine Canterus. I hope you have a great weekend, folks.
I hope this week has been good for you. I

(01:22:22):
hope the weekend. I hope you have good plans. Hey,
I want to give you an update. We spoke right
at the end of this probably this time yesterday. I
was talking about this Speaker of the House in Maine
who had decided it looked like unilaterally to not allow
a representative a House, a House member to speak or
vote on an issue because this representative, as a Republican,

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spoke out against transgender issues, and I called out specific
boys that were playing in girls sports in Maine, issues
that even Attorney General Pam Bondi had brought up specifically,
just really repeating back what she had brought up the
Attorney General had brought up, and the consequence appeared to
be that she was just unilaterally by the speaker not

(01:23:05):
allowed to participate. And I was saying yesterday that that's
there's no rules. You have to have a you'd have
to have a House rule that would specifically, specifically give
your speaker that kind of unilateral power, because you don't
have that power. It's not the way that works. The body,
the House body collectively makes those decisions, and that body
picks a speaker who then presides Today and it was

(01:23:26):
from the articles I was reading, but today I read
that she was censured by on a straight party line vote,
seventy six votes to censure, seventy votes against censorship. And
in that center vote, you do have the latitude to
prohibit a lawmaker, a House member from if the body
has decided that from voting or speaking to a bill.
It's a I'll tell you what it's a. It's like

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a death penalty in the legislature to be given that
censure where you're not allowed to participate, or that your
district that you represent does not. It doesn't have a
voice any longer because of that, And for it to
be on a partisan issue like this, where the difference
of opinion or her not repeating back the way they
want that issue spoken about to their satisfaction is just

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an abuse of power. So it looks like there was
at least a vote to century yesterday. At this time,
I didn't think there was even that, which then to
me was just there just wasn't any order to what
I was listening, what I was reading about. But that
central vote does make it, at least, I guess, on
its face, legitimate, But it's still and it's still wrong,
and we wouldn't have done that. We don't do that.

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You're not going to ever see your state House of
Representatives or your state legislature do anything like that. We
all value very much the voice that every representative had
is carrying with them with their district, and every state
senator as well. So I just want to be accurate
about that. I don't like if I shared that in
a way that wasn't accurate. I shared the information I

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had in front of me, But I read a little
bit more about that today, and I wanted to give
you that update also on the tariffs. As we see
the good economic news come, I just want to prepare
you that you're going to continue to hear how these
tariffs are just going to ruin your lives, are just
going to be the worst thing that's ever happened. Pay
attention to where the economic data is coming from, what's happening,

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Just see and also check your own pocketbook. I think
this is where the Biden administration was trying to tell
us things are absolutely fine, and we've never seen a
better economy when we could when we felt that it
was completely different than that. And so just just be
have a jaundice die when you hear the regime media
talk about the terrible tariffs. They'll even go this far.
I'm looking at an article from the Atlantic headline Hitler's

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Terrible Tariffs. By seeking deliberate Germans from the globalized world order,
the Nazi government sent the national economy careening backwards. So again,
using the always dependable Hitler analogy or accusation, the Atlantic
is now calling the tariffs Hitler's terrible tariffs. Again. That

(01:25:58):
should be every time we see Hitler mentioned, or Nazis
or fascists. We should just from that point, we should
just they've lost the argument. They don't have anything left.
They're just saying, you know, they're just attacking now in
a baseless way. But as far as those tariffs go,
just understand that that we are seeing eight trillion dollars

(01:26:19):
of on shoring investment coming to this country that was
not happening before President Trump declared that he was going
to re align these trade partnerships. You're seeing that eight
trillion includes even this week, one hundred and fifty billion
dollars of committed manufacturing or working IBM, bringing about one
hundred and fifty billion dollars over the next five years.

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So we're in the eight trillion dollar range. This is
building the United States economy. This is bringing jobs back.
You're even seeing, as I said earlier in the show,
this TEAMO, this Chinese app for things. They're going to
ship them and send them from the United States to
avoid the tariff. And so even their their poster shop
for why you should hate this is not is not

(01:27:03):
holding water. So I expect us and this you just
mark your calendar this time next Friday. Let's see if
the information or the news gets better. Gets worse. I
think there's some good things happening. Nothing in Washington moves fast,
but this president does. I think thered second one hundred
day phase that we're in right now, we are going
to continue to see the good news coming where we

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have good people on the ground, and that's why we're
always here to report it here on the Rotting greg Show.
So thanks again for listening, appreciate all of you. Hope
to see you or hear from you tomorrow next week
as Rod joins back the Rotting Gregg Show. So remember,
keep your chin down, your eyes up, your hands up,
answer the bell, and I'll see you on Monday.