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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I think forty six days the election.

Speaker 2 (00:03):
Would you like it precise measurement.

Speaker 1 (00:06):
If you would like to provide one that can do that,
that would be just fine. I have the power, You
have the power.

Speaker 2 (00:11):
It's forty three days, eight hours, fifty five minutes and
ten seconds.

Speaker 1 (00:15):
Okay, forty three days, forty three.

Speaker 2 (00:17):
Days, eight hours, fifty five minutes.

Speaker 1 (00:19):
Yeah, all right, Well we're getting closer and closer.

Speaker 2 (00:22):
Oh my and my markets. Trump's coming back up. He's
getting a little closer. He can fell down. They have
a pretty wide margin here over the weekend, and it's
ticking me off. But he's starting to come back. Like
I said, okay, this thing doesn't work, and now it's
coming back. Maybe it does work after all. We'll find out.

Speaker 1 (00:39):
Well, we've got a lot to get to today. Great
to be with you here on the Rod on Greg Show.

Speaker 2 (00:43):
I'm Rod Arquette, I'm citizen Greg Hughes, and.

Speaker 1 (00:46):
It greats to be with you, and we invite you
to be a part of the program throughout the day.
Coming up today, of course, of course the latest on
the election. I'm looking forward to this interview that we're
going to be doing at five o'clock. Greg. We're going
to have a psychiatrist who is also a body language expert,
and we're going to get to the bottom of Kamlo's cackle.

Speaker 2 (01:08):
Yeah, we're getting this is going.

Speaker 1 (01:10):
For mannerisms and where do you think it's going. I
just want to help educate people as to why she cackles.

Speaker 2 (01:17):
Well, sometimes people suffer from phobias. She has no phobia.
She has she is self aware. Okay, okay, yeah, and
so she doesn't she cackles. It's a nervous laugh. But
she has every right to be nervous because she's not
up for the job. That is not a phobia. That
is not deceiving yourself that you're not up for the job.

(01:37):
She truly is not. That's why she drinks wine. I'm convinced.

Speaker 1 (01:41):
I'm convinced she's a three glass a day.

Speaker 2 (01:43):
Yeah, I I really am. And I maybe that's rude
to say, but I think one of the reasons her
words outs go in circles the way they do. She's
had a few.

Speaker 1 (01:50):
Yeah, and see, I'm thinking she averages three a day.
That'd be my guess. Yeah, I'm just have no knowledge,
but speculating, we.

Speaker 2 (01:59):
Get to our observation.

Speaker 1 (02:00):
Yeah, we have a radio show. We'll also be talking
about her flailing campaign. Finally, someone who has done a
very good study on the cost of immigration to the
illegal immigration I should say, Greg to the American taxpayer
and we'll talk with the author of that study later on,
because you know, the numbers are staggering. It's running into
the trillions of dollars.

Speaker 2 (02:21):
I I am really looking forward to. This is probably
one of the smarter and more analytical studies of the
cost or benefit of immigration, both legal and illegal, and
what that does. And I think I'm really looking forward
to that.

Speaker 1 (02:36):
Yeah, a lot to get to today. And as I mentioned,
we invite you to be a part of the program
here on the Rod and Greg Show eight eight eight
five seven eight zero one zero, triple eight five seven
eight zero one zero, or on your cell phone. All
you do is have dial pound two fifty and say, hey, Rod,
what would the Trump advanced campaign be without little Timmy.

Speaker 2 (02:58):
Ay Walls, Little Timmy Walls.

Speaker 1 (03:02):
He's he did it again over the weekend, and he
probably didn't even realize he did it.

Speaker 2 (03:08):
When when is when do we get to actually call
him an official bust of a of a nominee because
they you know, they're hiding him.

Speaker 3 (03:14):
Oh you can't.

Speaker 2 (03:16):
If he was on a milk cart and you'd see
him more than you see him in this campaign. He's gone.
He is out of sight, out of mind, like he
just did not resonate with the people. So they're just
sending him into liberal land where we're not. So we
just don't see hydemer harribhim until.

Speaker 1 (03:31):
Until you know, over the weekend he said something like this,
and everyone is you know this. Uh, this clip has
been all over the place today, but here's Timmy at
a rally over the weekend.

Speaker 4 (03:42):
We can't afford we can't afford four.

Speaker 2 (03:48):
More years of this, Uh sir. The four years have
been under the administration of what you are on the ticket. Yes,
that would be that four years. We can't take another
four years of this. Yeah, I agree with you. I'm
with you.

Speaker 1 (04:03):
I'm waiting to see the Trump ad featuring Timmy there.
We can't have another four years.

Speaker 2 (04:10):
I said this so before the show started. But when
in nineteen eighty eight I got to work on the
presidential campaign in Pennsylvania. Bush Quail eighty eight. Dan Quayle,
he was a senator, the US Senator Dan Quayle Young
early forties Indiana senator. He wasn't all that good on
his feet. He was actually getting them. The media might
have been picking on him, But what his job was
during the presidential campaign, especially when he swung through Pennsylvania,

(04:33):
was to go to high school football games on Friday night.
That's it. That is it. That was the beginning, middle,
and end of his job. We'll send you to all
the swing states, all the targeted states, and you go
to the football games. Yeah, that's it.

Speaker 1 (04:46):
That was before the potato spelling fiasco.

Speaker 2 (04:49):
He was vice president. Wife Marilyn Quail, she was pretty
good on her feet. I was part of a fundraiser
for her Eurie Pennsylvania, and she was pretty good. But
Dan center Quail, he was relegated to the football game.
High school football games. Yeah, well, I don't even know
if Walls is. I don't know if coach Walls.

Speaker 1 (05:08):
Is football game. Well, here's Timmy again, just in case
you missed it. We can't afford.

Speaker 4 (05:15):
We can't afford four more years of this.

Speaker 1 (05:18):
No, we cannot afford.

Speaker 2 (05:20):
I'm with you all. We cannot afford four more years.

Speaker 1 (05:24):
All right. The debate that's going on during this campaign
right now, Greg is all about where's Kamala. She hasn't
he the news conference yet, She's done softball interviews, no
hard hitting interviews as of yet. Well what amazes me
is there are people in the on the journalistic side
of things, Greg, where you think they would be demanding
that she sit down and talk to people and answer questions.

(05:45):
They're actually defending her, Greg, And I just don't get that.
Why are they defending Kamala Harris. It's inexcusable, it really is.
And I'll tell you why.

Speaker 2 (05:55):
I think. I think this is hit this afternoon. But
the Associated Press is reported, uh this is about I
don't know, earlier today around one o'clock, but it says
that the Associated Press is saying that the US will
send additional troops to the Middle East amid escalation between
Israel and Hesbela and Lebanon. The Pentagon says, I've got
a few questions. One, okay, it says they will send

(06:16):
additional troops. We heard in the debate there was not
a single one. David Muir forgot the fact check that one.
But who is making that decision to send troops into
the Middle East? Is that Jill? Because they held they
held a yeah, they held a cabinet meeting, and she
kind of ran the show.

Speaker 1 (06:33):
She ran the show. He introduced her and shut up.

Speaker 2 (06:35):
But can the can the media at least ask this
presidential nominee part of this ticket, the one who used
to say she was the last one in the room
with Joe Biden? Did you were you part of this
decision to deploy troops in the Middle East from America?
Are are you okay with it? Are you supportive of it?
Bet your life? They'd ask, The Republican can't If it
was a Republican president and this was happening on his watch,

(06:56):
they would ask, And I'm good with asking. I think
the media should ask that question of any president without
regard to party. The problem we have right now is
it's only regard with regard to party. Do they even
ask a tough question or an appointed question? And that's
where she should really have to answer for deploying US
troops in the Middle East. That is not a great
day for us. That's not a great day, and it's

(07:17):
actually one that would be worthy of maybe a national
address from a president when you've made a decision like that.
You're getting none of it.

Speaker 1 (07:25):
In this in this administration. Matter of fact, he speaks
to the UN tomorrow. Will be interesting to see what
he says about both Ukraine and the Middle East right now,
because we are this close, I think Greg do an
all out war there. Yeah, I mean, what's going on
living ony time. It is a very scary time. A
little bit later on, we'll let you hear a SoundBite
from a couple of journalists arguing over why they are

(07:47):
not demanding that Kamala Harris asked some questions. That's coming
up on the Rod and Gregg Show. Great to be
with you on this Monday afternoon, forty three days to
go until the election on November fifth, The countdown is on.
Kamala calling for another debate today, Donald Trump says not interested? Aready?

Speaker 2 (08:06):
Oh? Come more people. Here's the deal. When you got
rid of that Presidential Commission, which was at least trying
to give some fairness to the whole thing. All the
networks could cover it. That's gone. So you got CNN
and you got ABC, and he doesn't get a Fox,
and he doesn't get who he wants. And then you're
going to go back to CNN and go, hey, you
want to do another one. Of course, he doesn't want

(08:26):
to go back to your home cooking. Okay, that's home.
I mean he gets out of the three, can he
have one venue? No voting has already started. I think
it's such a ploy. By the way, she'd never ask
for that debate if she was winning. It's just like
she won't answer a question. She would never put herself
on that stage to have them not ask her questions
unless she wasn't ahead. I promise you she's not. Her

(08:49):
campaign is not doing as well as they would like
you to think.

Speaker 1 (08:52):
Well, it's not getting any help from a running mate
Jimmy Yeau over the weekend. We played this earlier.

Speaker 2 (08:58):
But we can't take him anywhere. You just can't can't
take anyway.

Speaker 1 (09:02):
We can't afford.

Speaker 4 (09:05):
We can't afford four more years of this.

Speaker 1 (09:09):
We can't afford. He's right, you know, and you know
we all agree with what he was.

Speaker 2 (09:13):
I would tell us that I meant the four years
for before this. Four years. That's what I really meant. Yeah,
but that's not what you said.

Speaker 1 (09:19):
No, that's what he's joining us on our Newsmaker line
right now to talk more about this is David Devil.
David is a contributor at the imaginative conservative. David, how
are you welcome back to the Roden Greg.

Speaker 5 (09:30):
Joe, Hey, thanks for having me.

Speaker 1 (09:33):
He couldn't have said it any better, could he? Could he?

Speaker 5 (09:36):
David, I'm sorry, could you say that again?

Speaker 1 (09:40):
Yeah, he couldn't have said it any better. Timmy Walls
over the weekend. You know, we can't stand another four
years of this.

Speaker 5 (09:48):
I'm sorry, I'm getting some static here. Let me see
it again. The four more years you're.

Speaker 2 (09:56):
Talking about, right, Wall said we can't live through more years,
and I'm sure he meant through Trump, but he's really
the way he said it, he sounds like he's referring
to the four years we're living through currently.

Speaker 1 (10:07):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (10:10):
Yeah, it's it's a pretty embarrassing thing that they that
they're starting to sound as if they're running against themselves.
I'm hoping that the Republicans will be able to take
advantage of this and convince more of these independents, and
it looks like that's actually happening with many of the
poles in the RCP average showing that Trump is ahead

(10:31):
in those battleground states in most of the polls. So
I think people are understanding that they are they are
not they are not actually providing what they're saying they're providing,
And in fact, they're much more like like Tim Walls
is saying, they're they're thinking, we can't afford another four years.

Speaker 1 (10:48):
David, the question comes up, and Greg and I have
talked about this on the show. When people are voting anymore,
they're looking for authenticity. Are they getting authenticity out of
Kamala Harris or Tim Walls at all?

Speaker 5 (11:01):
I don't think there's anything authentic about her. Uh And
in fact, you know, even one of my kids tonight said,
did you hear her speaking? She she kind of mimics
the accent of everybody she talks to. There's there's nothing
authentic about that. And there's nothing authentic about, you know,
her claiming that she's going to shoot somebody, as she
said in this Oprah interview, when nobody knows what kind

(11:23):
of gun she supposedly has, and when when her aids
are asked about this supposed gun, they can't they can't
say anything either. Nobody seems to know it's it's a
mythical gun. But almost everything she says is like this.
You you peel away a layer and you find out
that there's nothing there. Oh, I worked at McDonald's. Oh
I have a gun with this kind of an accent.
It's it's all phony baloney.

Speaker 2 (11:45):
So again this is I mean, this is I we
believe this is her solid strategy. She cannot afford he
she has a very low ceiling of support. She can't
afford to alienate any of her of her voting base,
and a lot of her voting base fundamentally don't agree
with each other. So you've got you can't be too
bullish about fracking and oil and gas and extraction or

(12:06):
your environmentalists, will you know, recoil she goes through this
whole thing, can't be too pro Israel or the pro
terrorist pro Hamas wing of the party gets angry. So
I guess my question is can she continue to just
avoid any kind of real position. Even that gun story

(12:27):
ended up, they said, oh, that's just a joke that
she didn't mean it. Well, what's funny about it? It's
not actually a joke. I mean, you either said what
you meant or not. So I just where does all
this go? Is this just whack them all, just hide
until we get to the end. Do they run the
clock out?

Speaker 5 (12:43):
Yeah? I don't think she can this is the problem. Right,
She's she's not provided anything in terms of policy, and
then when she says she will provide them, they are
these things that she already says that she doesn't she
doesn't hold to. So I don't really see how this
can go on. I mean, I keep wondering if this
whole thing is going to collapse from the weight of

(13:04):
its own absurd contradictions. But it's getting worse because the
desperation is in the air. You may have talked about
this with your listeners already, but she's now having you know,
Vladimir Zelenski flying around the country campaigning against Trump. My
understanding was that, you know, this was a this was
a hard line that you cannot talk to foreign leaders

(13:28):
about anything to do with our elections and have them intervene. Right,
is this her policy?

Speaker 6 (13:33):
Now?

Speaker 5 (13:33):
That is this the Biden policy? What is this exactly?
The whole thing is getting getting crazy, and I think
people are starting to see that, particularly in those battleground states.

Speaker 1 (13:44):
We can only hope. David is always great to have
you on the show. Thanks for joining us since afternoon.

Speaker 5 (13:50):
Hey, thank you very much, glad to be with you.

Speaker 2 (13:52):
Thank you so much.

Speaker 1 (13:53):
All that is David Devil. David is with The Imaginative Conservative,
also writing for AMC talk about this and Greg, you're right,
I mean, and we'll talk about this a little bit
later on the show. But you know, a lot of
people are saying she does hold the news conference. She
hasn't done a sit down interview, even though apparently there
are negotiations with CBS News to do a segment for

(14:15):
sixty minutes, which is traditional anymore. With sixty minutes they
always talk to the sitting in, the incumbent and the
challenger on their broadcast right before the vote. So she
may or she may not. But what amights me? And well,
we'll get into this because we've got some sound bites
on this that the medium is almost defending her. There
are some in the media who are defending her Greg

(14:37):
for not doing interviews, for not holding news conferences. They're
basically saying, why do we need to know her position?
Because we already know what Donald Trump believes, so why
do we need to know her position?

Speaker 2 (14:47):
And that right there it all is, Yeah, it does.
It says that I don't have to have a possession
position on anything. I just can't be Donald Trump. All
they're doing is running on fear or hate that they
put push out and try to create fear. Now it's
funny because they mirror it, you know, mirroring where they
just say, no, you are what you say is what
you are. I mean, they're trying to say that that

(15:09):
that Trump's all about fear. I'm telling you they don't.
They don't need to know any position she has. All
they need to know is she's not Donald Trump. If
that is how you feel as a so called journalist,
then the only thing that this campaign is about is
hatred towards Trump and fear of what he would do.
And that's the only thing you have to talk about.
That's actually a more universal theme than trying to get

(15:31):
down on border issues or fracking or anything else. Attacks
as you name it, so that that will have some
people on either side. They're just hoping to universally tell
everyone please hate Trump and be afraid of them. Indian
summer they call it when I was growing up, You know,
when it gets you see the high seventies, maybe the eighties.

Speaker 1 (15:49):
Can we say that anymore?

Speaker 2 (15:50):
I don't see I said it, and I'm like, twenty
twenty four. Do we even have it in summers?

Speaker 1 (15:55):
Anymore, we dare say, but did you see and I've
got this story somewhere that the family of the Native
American who is on the helmet, so the Washington Redskins
or used to be right, they want it back on.

Speaker 2 (16:08):
Good for them.

Speaker 1 (16:09):
Yeah, they're saying, enough, man, this was an honor to
have our forefather be a part of this organization, in
this team, and we want it back on.

Speaker 2 (16:18):
Yeah. I went to Cleveland Indians back. I want to
Washington Redskins back. I mean, all these commanders and what
warriors what do they call them, the.

Speaker 1 (16:25):
Warriors commander something like.

Speaker 2 (16:28):
That, guardians. Yeah, it's just so, it's just.

Speaker 1 (16:32):
Makes no sense to all right. There are two movies
out there that a lot of people are enjoying. One
of them, of course, is Ronald Reagan. Yes, have you
seen it with Dennis Waid. I have not seen it.

Speaker 2 (16:41):
No, it's still on my list, Yeah you see it.

Speaker 1 (16:43):
And the other one is Matt Walsh's Am I Racist?
And we talked to his director the other day and
I'm told this is a hilarious movie.

Speaker 2 (16:53):
It I think that I think the script just wrote itself.
I think they just had to get the right people.
We thought it was a serious deal. Yeah, do the
comedic act of this topic. Yeah, well we've got two
tickets to that right now too. Run of Engagement passes
to see Matt Walsh's Am I Racist? It's in theaters
now and let's see we will take call her what

(17:13):
number five E ray will five work out eight eight
eight five seven eight zero one zero eight eight eight
five seven eight zero one zero. Call her number five
to see Am I Racist? The new Matt Walsh film
in theaters right now. Call her number five eight eight
eight five seven zero one zero. I think run of Engagement.
Run of Engagement just means Wallace in.

Speaker 1 (17:32):
Tiah Wilson theaters. Yeah, you can pick any day you want.
It's Wallace in theaters if you want to go see it.
All right. We have been talking about this greag for
quite some time. As to Kamala Harris and her refusal
to answer questions from the media, I think it is
sixty four days now that she's not held a news conference.
She's only done a couple of very softball sit down interviews.
But you know what, it is amazing the number of

(17:54):
people out there in the journalistic opinion area who seem
to be fine with that, and I wouldn't you want
to know where a person you may vote for president
of the United States, where she stands on certain issues.
You don't want to know.

Speaker 2 (18:08):
You know why? Why Because the people you're hearing that
from would vote for a crash test dummy instead of Trump.
And if you can, if you would vote for a
crash test dummy to have the nuclear codes and the
football and everything else, then you really don't need to
hear from the crash test dummy, do you know? Because
it's just not Trump and that's the only thing that's
motivating you. And what these journalists don't understand is that's

(18:29):
not enough for a lot of people. Okay, that's not
going to carry the day for a lot of thoughtful
people that are concerned about the issues confronting them in
their lives, in their community, in the country.

Speaker 1 (18:38):
It's amazing the number of journalists or opinionators in this
country who don't want to know where she stands. I'm
going to let you listen to an exchange. It was
on Bill Maher on Friday night. Brad Stevens, who is
a New York Times columnist, Okay, considered I guess a
conservative and Stephanie Rule who worked for MSNBC, and he
talked about this and said, I think we have a
right to get some answers to our questions.

Speaker 7 (19:00):
It's not too much to ask Kamala say, are you
for a Palestinian state if Hamas is going to run
that state?

Speaker 5 (19:06):
Okay?

Speaker 8 (19:07):
Yes or no?

Speaker 9 (19:07):
And let's say you don't like her answer.

Speaker 10 (19:09):
Are you going to vote for Donald Trump?

Speaker 7 (19:12):
No, I'm not.

Speaker 2 (19:13):
I'm not going to vote.

Speaker 10 (19:14):
Not running for perfect, she's running against Trump. We have
two choices, and so there are some things you might
not know her answer to. And in twenty twenty four
onlike twenty sixteen, for a lot of the American people,
we know exactly what Trump will do, who he is,
and the kind of threat he is to democracy.

Speaker 11 (19:34):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (19:34):
It's uncleared me cold.

Speaker 7 (19:38):
And the problem that a lot of people have with
Kamala is we don't know her answer to anything.

Speaker 10 (19:45):
Okay, you know, answer to everything.

Speaker 7 (19:48):
And that's why I would never vote for him, and
people should vote for him. But people also are expected
to have some idea of what the program is of
the person you're supposed to vote for. You're just not
supposed to say, well, you have to vote for why
because X is this, that and the other. Let's find
out a little bit more. And I don't think it's
a lot to ask her to sit down for a
real interview as opposed to a puff piece in which

(20:10):
she describes like her her feelings are growing up and
opening the nice laws.

Speaker 1 (20:16):
The justification of not knowing from Stephanie rule is absolutely ridiculous.

Speaker 3 (20:19):
You know.

Speaker 2 (20:20):
Stephanie rule is the is the rule on the Nightmare
of Hubris. Yeah, combined with ignorance okay, because she thinks
it's like the country of Australia, where you're by law
obligated to vote, You're not okay if you don't have
a candidate. If she thinks it's just good enough to
not be Donald Trump and that everything else, there's nothing
to even ask because you just know it's not him.

(20:40):
That is not a very good get out the vote effort.
That doesn't bring people to the polls and make them
want to vote, or to the ballot box and make
them want to vote, You will have a chilling effect
on your voter turnout if the only thing you have
is that Descott. You don't want this guy, but I
will just play hide the ball and never tell you
one thing about what I'm going to do if when
I'm in office, that is not going to energize any

(21:02):
kind of voting base for her. But Stephanie Will doesn't
know that. She just thinks way, He's not Trump. What
do you have to ask?

Speaker 8 (21:06):
Now?

Speaker 2 (21:07):
Why is there even another question?

Speaker 1 (21:08):
All I would say to that put the shoe on
the other foot.

Speaker 2 (21:10):
What a giant?

Speaker 1 (21:11):
What if Donald Trump refused to sit down.

Speaker 3 (21:13):
And do it?

Speaker 2 (21:14):
Yeah, exactly, it would be It would.

Speaker 1 (21:16):
Be crazy out there right now. All right, more coming up,
Rod and Greg with you on this uh Monday afternoon.
I hope you had a great weekend everybody.

Speaker 2 (21:24):
We got we got baseball playoffs, we got college football going,
NFL going, it's in the exhibition games for NHL are
starting up, so everything it's as sports extravaganza is now.
It's just going to get colder every day and light
light earlier earlier every day. Baseball playoffs started October fifth.
Yeh where your pirates, don't worry about it. Who asked you?

Speaker 1 (21:46):
I'm heyes, as you know, we got a picture's pretty good.
He'll be he'll be a Yankee in a few years.

Speaker 2 (21:54):
I know you guys are going try to steal, and
that's what you need to buy all your teams. All right,
let's salary cap and base Springfield.

Speaker 1 (22:00):
Ohio for a minute. Much has been made about Springfield o'higo.

Speaker 2 (22:03):
Yeah, they eat cats and dogs eat Springfield and that position,
you know, and.

Speaker 1 (22:08):
There are a lot of people who are critical of JD.
Van's and the president saying that. Well, Marco Rubil was
on what was it, It was CBS, okay over the weekend, right,
and he said, Okay, let's set aside the dogs and
cats and geese stories for a minute, but let's talk
about the real issue facing the poor people in Springfield

(22:29):
and other places around the country.

Speaker 12 (22:30):
What shouldn't be a distraction, because at a minimum, it
shouldn't keep us from, for example, saying, okay, well, maybe
I don't believe the dogs and the cats staying, but
there are literally people moving in by the thousands and
the cats of Springfield, Charleroy and Pennsylvania. You know, that's
a four thousand person city that has twenty five hundred migrants.
And I think one of the problems here is that
somehow Americans who are not intolerant, they're not bigots, they're not,

(22:52):
but they are troubled by the fact that their.

Speaker 2 (22:54):
City is being flooded.

Speaker 12 (22:55):
In Springfield, you see reports, These are legitimate reports of
huge increases in traffic accidents, leading to slower the police
response time, overcrowded schools. I mean the strain this puts
on a community. And if you complain about it, somehow,
you're a big at, You're a racist, you're a hater.
That is the story here that everyday Americans are being
made to feel like they're haters because they're complaining about
something all any of us would complain. If any of us,

(23:16):
I don't care who we are, live in a city
of four thousand people and you bring in twenty five
hundred migrants overnight into one place.

Speaker 2 (23:21):
There are going to be problems and people are going
to complain.

Speaker 12 (23:23):
That doesn't make you a biggot.

Speaker 1 (23:24):
Yeah, I'd love Marco Rubio's responsor. He says, you know,
don't be distracted by the cats and dogs and geese stories. Okay,
true or not, whatever the case may be. Look at
the bigger picture here, Greg and how Americans are being
painted as racist because they're saying, wait a minute, we
live in a town of four thousand people and you're
putting twenty five hundred migrants in our town. How do
you expect us to react? How would we react in

(23:47):
a Smolton?

Speaker 2 (23:47):
There are two things that that impacts in a way
that changes your life. Housing, housing availability, housing costs and jobs. Yes,
okay those if you can't work and if you can't
afford a place or you can't find a place to live.
I don't care what ethnicity, I don't care if it's

(24:08):
that those two variables in your life. You wake up
one day and it's very quick and you can't find
housing or afford it, and you can't get a job.
That's that is something worthy to be upset about, especially
when it's created by the federal government artificially doing it
to that community.

Speaker 1 (24:24):
Can I add one other element to then? I think crime,
absolutely right. I think if you grow up in a
country where or live in a country where there's no
spec for, no respect for law, or you're desperate, you're
looking for food to feed your family, you know you
need something and you have no money, you become desperate,
and then criminal activity.

Speaker 2 (24:45):
Let's go back to the color last week who said
that of the thousands of immigrants that have come to Harriman, city.
He says that Venezuelans in that apartment complex, that massive
apartment apartment of complex, the police are there, he said,
every angle night. Now, I haven't seen it, but that's
that's what one of our colors shared with us. I

(25:05):
don't he doesn't have any reason to lie that. I
know every single night that just the cost of public
safety has not even been realized by the City of
Harriman or its taxpayers when that's happening in real time.
They haven't. They haven't. They haven't budgeted the overtime. They
haven't budgeted the weight of calls that frequently happening, and
the shifts that are going to be required to accommodate

(25:25):
something like that. That is all happening in real time,
and it's going to come by way of tax increases
and financial impact in addition to whatever housing and jobs
and everything else that's going on. Because we heard that
in our callers yesterday or last week too, that the
jobs are being taken.

Speaker 1 (25:41):
Another element I'll just throw into this, traffic safety.

Speaker 2 (25:44):
Yeah, they do deal with it. They're not getting there.
They're having automobile accidents that people are being killed. They
turned a bus over, for Heaven's safe and a young man,
Pat died and twenty four other students were injured. Because
so it's fun to odyssey anyvan went sideways into a
van talk.

Speaker 1 (26:02):
About the dogs, the cats, but really talk about the impact.
And I'm glad Mark or Rubio brought that up. All right,
what is it about the cackle? A body language expert
will join us next on The Roden Greg Show and
stay with us. How would you say this, Greg, A
little common sense to the daily conversation? Common sense to
the daily conversation.

Speaker 2 (26:23):
Well, and it's sad that you have to have a
show that identifies common sense that used to be common
Yeah that's the term, but not really now. I mean
you you really have to argue why twenty thousand Haitians
in a community of sixty is problematic. You have to
have that conversation. You have to, I mean, the things

(26:44):
we have to debate or discuss or apologize because it's
actually not a moral or intellectual failing, but it is just,
you know, it's the world we live in. I guess.

Speaker 3 (26:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (26:55):
Well a lot has been made, of course about a
number of things during this campaign. But one of the
issues that Greg and I I don't want to we
laugh at should we laugh at this? And you know
we make fun of Kamala.

Speaker 2 (27:06):
Yes, well, yeah, it's a it's a type of laugh.

Speaker 1 (27:09):
It's a cackling thing does and the way she answered
questions in the body language and the dancing in the streets.

Speaker 2 (27:17):
I can't figure it all laughing when it's not funny.
There's not even anything that's been said as humorous and
there's a laugh that goes on.

Speaker 1 (27:24):
Yeah. Well, uh, that's why we wanted to bring on
our next guest, because we've had Caroline on the show
or Caroline the show before, and it's always great to
have her. She is a psychiatrist and a body language expert.
Her name is Carol Lieberman, and she's here to talk
to us about Kamala Harris and her various mannerisms. Doctor Lieberman,
how are you welcome back to the Rod and Greg Show.

Speaker 11 (27:44):
Yes, it's fine, thank you.

Speaker 1 (27:46):
How would you how would you explain? Well, first of all,
the one that drives me nuts is the cackle? Can
you explain the cackle? Doctor Lieberman?

Speaker 13 (27:54):
Can?

Speaker 11 (27:55):
Yes, I can? You know, I know, I know it's
not right to to uh to laugh about her because
because I mean forgot if by some unfortunate circumstance she
actually becomes our next president. It's not really going to
be something to laugh about.

Speaker 2 (28:17):
That's a technical term, doctor, and I love it.

Speaker 11 (28:19):
Yeah, No, I can explain it. I First of all,
I have to say I've never met Kamela. I don't
want to meet her, so you know, I haven't personally
diagnosed her, I mean diagnosed her in person, examined her. However,
from my professional knowledge, I say that she has imposter syndrome.

(28:43):
That impost syndrome is when someone is in a position
that they don't really feel that that they are capable
of doing the job of you know that that they
when they know that they're not really qualified. And so Kamala,
you know, she basically slept her way up in California,

(29:06):
and then she was picked by Biden or the Democrats
to in general, to be vice president, not because of
any brilliance that she has, you know, or any special
uh political acumen, but because she was a woman and
a woman of color, and they thought that that would
get more votes. So she knows that she knows that
it wasn't because of her intelligence or anything else. So

(29:29):
when she's in public, her cackle is a nervous laughter
because she's always worried that she's going to be found out,
that people are going to realize that she isn't qualified
to be vice president, no less president.

Speaker 2 (29:45):
Doctor I always thought that that imposter syndrome was a
phobia that it didn't know. It meant that, you know
that people have these insecurities and they and they question themselves.
But in the case of Vice President Kamala Harris, she's right.
She is a impostor. This is a very accurate self,
you know, assessment she has made. So this isn't a phobia.

Speaker 11 (30:07):
Well, it's not really a fool I mean, there's anxiety,
you know, there's always anxiety being afraid of being found out,
but it's not exactly a phobia. Okay, but but yes,
I mean, so that's what the cackle is. That's where
all of her hand movements are. You know, she's always
swirling her hands around like now you see it, now
you don't. She's just she's just all over the place,

(30:31):
trying to to hide that she doesn't know what she's doing.

Speaker 1 (30:36):
Doctor Lieberman, are knowing this about her or your assessment
of her? Are you surprised that she doesn't want to
do a news conference that she does not want to
sit down with a journalist who she may not trust,
she may not know, who could ask some very hard questions.
Is this part of this imposter syndrome that she's dealing with.

Speaker 11 (30:56):
Yes, absolutely, you know she doesn't want the more. The
more she doesn't really know how much that person likes her,
what she can get away with, whether they're going to
ask piercing questions that she really doesn't have answers for.
You know that that just she she doesn't want to

(31:17):
do that, and the Democrats are trying to hide her.
It's kind of like when they hid Biden in the
basement the first go around. You know, that was they
were hiding him then because they knew he had maybe
they didn't know to call it dementia, but they well
some of his family did. But but but they you know,
I mean was supposedly because of COVID, but it was

(31:38):
really because they didn't want the American people to get
to know him too well or to see him, you know,
to see all his cognitive difficulties.

Speaker 2 (31:46):
So I have a question on Labor Day, and this
is just one small example. There were two Labor Day
events that Vice President Kamala Harris attended. One was in Detroit,
the other one in Pittsburgh. When they did the when
she spoke at the Detroit Union rally, her voice sounded
very different. She had quite an accent that would maybe

(32:09):
mirror the audience in which she was speaking. And when
she came to Pittsburgh just hours later, the audience did
not look exactly the same. It was a different audience,
but they were union members, and her cadence and her
voice completely changed. So what's that about? I mean, why
is why is someone changing so obviously and not subtly

(32:29):
the way they speak to people? What's going on there?

Speaker 11 (32:32):
Well, you know, it's interesting because it's interesting how she
doesn't realize that it's so obvious. You know that people
are gonna are gonna realize it themselves. You know that
that there are all these differences. But it's kind of
like being a people pleaser. She tries, she takes on
the persona of whoever she thinks will please her audience most,

(32:56):
you know, whether it's because of the accent or what
she talks about, or you know, she's trying to get
them to like her.

Speaker 2 (33:03):
Yeah, she's like Sally Fields winning an oscar Okay, I'm
picking up what you're putting down. I got it, doctor,
I got it.

Speaker 1 (33:14):
Will you know, for voters out there who listening to
you talk about her right now, how do they use
this in making a final decision as to who they're
going to vote for?

Speaker 5 (33:25):
Run?

Speaker 1 (33:25):
I mean, what would you suggest.

Speaker 11 (33:31):
Not to not to think too much about it and
just vote.

Speaker 2 (33:33):
Frum doctor Carol, and you are my hero.

Speaker 7 (33:41):
People don't have to.

Speaker 11 (33:43):
To spend too much time thinking about I mean, here's
the thing though, that's really you know, like I have
some friends, believe it or not. I have some friends
and some of them are planning on voting for Kabala.
And these are like smart people and relatively stiicated people,
you know, knowledgeable people. And when I ask them, why

(34:06):
are you voting for Kamala, they don't really have anything
to say other than well Trump is this and Trump that.
So people aren't really voting for Kamala, just like they
didn't really vote for Biden. They voted against Trump. Now,
that is the that is the biggest mistake, because you know,
some people don't like his personality. They think he's too cocky.

(34:28):
He's like a bull in a china shop. Okay, but
he's also the best one to run this country and
to bring it back to some semblance of America.

Speaker 1 (34:36):
All right, final question for you, doctor, And to be fair,
now we've asked you to analyze Kamala for a minute.
Do you want to give us your quick analysis of
one Donald Trump.

Speaker 11 (34:48):
Well, I'll say, you know, he's not perfect, but but
he's the best one to count on, as I was saying,
to bring this country back. And I think with all
that he has been through in this last these last months,
you know, all the law fare, all the two attempts
to kill him, I mean, it is amazing that this

(35:10):
man is standing. Nola's going around and an incredible schedule
to make these campaign stops. So when people try to say,
you know that, oh maybe he's maybe he has dementia
two or or you know whatever they say, I'd like
to see them go, you know, try to fight for

(35:30):
their freedom in court and also try not and pretend
that they don't care that you know that they almost
that someone almost shot him.

Speaker 9 (35:38):
In the head.

Speaker 1 (35:39):
Amazing, doctor Lieberman. Always great to have you on the show.
Thank you for your insight.

Speaker 2 (35:43):
Ye appreciate you so much for joining us.

Speaker 11 (35:45):
You're very welcome.

Speaker 1 (35:46):
All right on our Newsmaker line. That's so psychiatrist body
language expert doctor Carol Lieberman giving us some insight into
the cackle which you know, imposter syndrome. Is that what
it's called?

Speaker 2 (35:57):
Yes, which you can actually I've learned it's not just
a phobia. You can be an impostor and have imposters syndrome.
It's just you know, it's good self, you know inventory.

Speaker 1 (36:06):
Yeah, thank you, all right, Bore coming up with Rod
and Greg right here on Utah's Talk Radi'll one oh
five nine K and R.

Speaker 2 (36:14):
I have no imposter syndrome. I am. I'm too legit
to quit.

Speaker 1 (36:19):
You sure we are faking trying to be talk shoos.

Speaker 2 (36:21):
If I am. It's not dawned on me. I have
never thought that. I think, I'm I think I'm well.

Speaker 1 (36:27):
You you don't have opinions.

Speaker 2 (36:28):
You're just right correct.

Speaker 1 (36:31):
You just remind people that luxury to have opinion luxury.

Speaker 2 (36:35):
I do not have that luxury. I just you just
know it's an opinion. You just know heavy as the crown.

Speaker 6 (36:42):
I just know.

Speaker 14 (36:44):
I just know.

Speaker 1 (36:45):
That's why I love working with you. You're just humble.

Speaker 2 (36:48):
Yeah, just ask me. I'm telling you. I will tell you,
I will tell you the humility oozes. But no, I
just know, I just don't. I wish I just had opinions,
because then it wouldn't be, it wouldn't feel.

Speaker 1 (36:58):
But you just don't you know something.

Speaker 2 (37:01):
I just have the responsibility to let you know which
really going on? All right, I know I don't think.

Speaker 1 (37:06):
All right, I'm going to ask you this. Do you
know we have two tickets to see the Trans Siberian Orchestra.

Speaker 2 (37:11):
I totally knew that.

Speaker 1 (37:12):
You know that because it's steering right in front right,
It's on a sheet of paper in front of you. Well,
we have two tickets right now to the Trans Siberian Orchestra.
The Lost Christmas Eve Tour is coming up on November twentieth,
three pm at the Delta Center, and we've got a
pair of tickets to give away. We'll make you work
a little bit. Shall we take caller number ten? I'll

(37:34):
like call her number ten. Yeah, you go along with that.

Speaker 3 (37:36):
I like that.

Speaker 1 (37:36):
Well, thank you. Eight eight eight five seven eight zero
one zero eight eight eight five seven o eight zero
one zero. If you are caller number ten, you will
win a pair of tickets to the Trans Siberian Orchestra
of the Lost Christmas Eve Tour coming up on November
twentiees caller number ten right now eight eight eight five
seven eight zero one zero. Now one of my favorite people.

(37:58):
There are several people in the sports world greg that
I that I really like, and this is one of them.
Tony Dungee, Yes, I have been I have. I've heard
him speak, I've watched his interviews, I've read some of
the things that he has written. Wrote a fantastic book
boy several years ago. But I love that he's willing
to take on Kamala Harris when it comes to the

(38:20):
issue of abortion.

Speaker 2 (38:21):
You forgot in his bio he was a Pittsburgh Steeler.
He met his wife in Pittsburgh. Okay, so anyway, but yes,
he is not afraid. This man is not afraid. He
is fearless when it comes to doing what is right
or speaking up for what is right.

Speaker 1 (38:34):
Yeah. Yeah, Well he is challenging now Harris on her
pro abortion talking points, and that's what he said. He said, Well, basically,
she came out and routinely argues that people do not
have to abandon their faith. That's what she says to
support abortion. Exactly what faith are you talking about when

(38:54):
you say you don't have to abandon it to support it?
That's the question that Tony Dungee asking. He writes, the
justification used to support their argument is that self autonomy
and self actualization are the chief goods in society. Defending
defenseless unborn children. Well, now Tony has come out. Tony

(39:16):
Dungeon said, wait a minute, here, you know this what
he said about her stand on abortion and the fact
that you don't have to abandon your faith to support abortion.
Here's what he wrote. He said, Dear VP Harris, I
hear you make this statement all the time. Exactly what
faith are you talking about when you say you don't
have to abandon it to support abortion? Dungee asked. He

(39:38):
went on to say, are you talking about the Christian
faith that says all babies are born in the image
of God Genesis one twenty six, that God places them
in the womb Jeremiah one five, and that we should
not take any life unjustly? Luke eighteen twenty Are you
talking about that faith or some nebulous general faith that

(40:01):
says you're good enough and smart enough to make your
own decisions? What faith. Are you talking about Zinger Zinger Zinger? Greg,
He just got after and I you know, very night
the way Tony Dungee does you know it's not personally
just asked these questions and are you talking about this?
He's a very Christian man quoting scripture.

Speaker 2 (40:20):
What I really like too is that he can be
that pointed. And he doesn't on social media, but but
he's you know, he's on NBC's Sunday Night Football. Yeah,
and he's able to still. I mean, usually you get
canceled for having such opinions, such a Christian faith.

Speaker 1 (40:33):
I'm surprised he hasn't been.

Speaker 2 (40:35):
I know, and I love it. I love and he
you know, and I think it's because you can tell
by his demeanor he's a man of faith, and he's
humble and he's just he's you know, he smiles. He
just doesn't have this like overbearing personality and I and look,
he's just sticking up for what he what he believes
is right, what we know is right, and a and
a woke company like NBC doesn't leesn't cancel him. I

(40:57):
love that.

Speaker 1 (40:57):
Yeah, Yeah, Well good for Tony Dungee. That's why I
wish more people would speak out against the issue of abortion.
All Right, more to come here on The Roden Gregg
Show in Utah's Talk Radio one oh five nine K
and R as Kay and Arrest and The Roden Gregg
Show with you today.

Speaker 2 (41:13):
Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, Coy.

Speaker 14 (41:17):
That's it.

Speaker 2 (41:18):
That's all I got. That's all I got.

Speaker 1 (41:19):
All Right, We're done, see you tomorrow.

Speaker 2 (41:20):
Well, no, so I got a stack of stuff. But
I don't know if you want to go to college,
if you had a question, you want to ask, any
comments on what we've talked about so far?

Speaker 1 (41:28):
A bit Well, bring up, bring up the the NFL
vote thing. Okay, So a lot of us watch football yesterday, right,
we saw ads telling us to vote.

Speaker 2 (41:36):
Yeah, and so I'm watching those ads and they're saying
they got these NFL players and they're saying, hey, just
get out there and vote. And it seems very it's
very you know, I don't sense any partisanship to it,
and I like it. I'm like, yeah, great, these they're
role models. We all love sports. These NFL guys are
telling you to vote. And then I read an article
this morning that that is all being funded by these

(41:57):
left of center get out the vote organizations that are nonprofit,
and I'm thinking to myself, Okay, if they're nonprofit, what
makes them left of center? And are there any right
of center nonprofit get out the Votes And if so,
what do they say that this one didn't? So I
watched that commercial the whole time. My only worry, Rod
is that if it is a left of center organization

(42:19):
they said rock the votes, the biggest uh you know,
is the oldest one of the of the list of
groups that fund.

Speaker 1 (42:25):
Those NFL commercial is very liberal organization.

Speaker 2 (42:28):
Well, then what what typically happens in a liberal, left
of center so called nonprofit get out the vote is
where they target those messings. They try to find the
most predominantly Democrat, left leaning likely Democrat vote regions to
really push those uh those commercials. And so I would
hope that the NFL would be a little more careful

(42:50):
about who they would align themselves with and not Yeah,
I mean if they're just if they're just pushing those
commercials not universally, but specifically in areas that are that
are democrat, uh you have a propensity to vote Democrat,
I would be very disappointed in the NFL. And then
Roger Goodell, I would be. That is not what we

(43:10):
need in an NFL.

Speaker 1 (43:11):
Well, remember this is the league who refused to take
a stand of people kneeling during the national anthem. So
what do you expect?

Speaker 2 (43:18):
Yeah, that's true. They didn't make a stand there, Jerry Jones,
did your your cowboys did?

Speaker 1 (43:23):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (43:23):
All right?

Speaker 1 (43:24):
Interesting article today in the Tribune asking a question what
would happen to elections if you tossed up sending ballots
by mail to It'd be awesome.

Speaker 2 (43:34):
I would be happy, people would dance in the streets.
What else do you want?

Speaker 1 (43:39):
Because the article obviously it's slanted towards look at these
people who live in very rural parts of the state
that they probably wouldn't vote, and that's why we need
vote by mail. It's wrong and it's wrong. I mean,
how long what ten years we had nailing something like balloting?
What ten years something like that? But before that, Greg

(44:03):
would before the.

Speaker 2 (44:04):
Vote on election day, imagine that. Imagine that. So we
are only we've had vote by mail in Utah for
so long, and we are learning. And I'm telling you
I'm not I'm pretty involved in campaigns and elections. I
used to be a candidate, so we kind of pay
attention to this stuff. I would tell you that people
do not realize that if you're talking about a rural
community in the state of Utah that is from Beaver

(44:26):
County and south, that if you go to mail, you
receive a ballot in the mail and then you fill
it out and you put it in the mailbox, whether
it's a home or you go to the you go
to post office in your town, whatever wherever you go,
that that ballot goes to Las Vegas, Nevada, to be
processed and then driven back. So let's say you just
you live in Beaver County and you just want to

(44:47):
mail it to the Beaver County clerk. It goes to
lay Las Vegas and comes.

Speaker 1 (44:52):
Back driven Vegas.

Speaker 2 (44:53):
Yes, drive, And the number of days that that takes
and the number of votes in the last primary election
that we're answered because of that lag of time and
didn't make it in time. Or they had two stamps
over top of each other because it was stamped because
it was a ballot in you know, in the place
of origin, but then Las Vegas stamped over top of it.
It was allowed el what would you say. They couldn't

(45:14):
see it, they couldn't tell what it was, so they
threw it out. Someone's vote of conscience was thrown out
because of this nonsense where you're asking the US Postal
Service to conduct and administer your elections as a state.
Forget it. For just stop. We needn't to just stop that.

Speaker 1 (45:28):
Go back to the way we used to do it.
You know we did just find you know, I just
allow people to go back. I'm of the opinion you
just have a national voting day. Yes Day holiday should
be on a Sunday, and everybody can go vote on
a Sunday. The law do this in Europe and the
turnout is very, very strong. I don't understand why we

(45:49):
can't do it here.

Speaker 2 (45:50):
You know, the lawmaker and me wants to find a compromise,
and so the only one I can even think of
is mail the ballot out. I guess okay, give it
time to read all the questions.

Speaker 1 (45:59):
You said you're against, Malee.

Speaker 2 (46:00):
Well, I am against mailing. But if you mail your no,
I'm saying minimally you could mail it out because you
have It's not like when you turn it in there's
this cutoff date. You could if it takes you longer
to get it. As long as they mail them out
early enough, but you have to drop off that ballot
with an election clerk, even if they're standing by the
drop box, and just scan the ID, the driver's license.

(46:21):
And you can't take all your families and take it
and just scan your ID. You're still that is a
chain of custody that you can follow from the moment
you scan that ID. Right now, they're studying. They got
software to study signatures. You've got kids that sign it
when they're young. They got elderly people. The signators don't match,
or they lower the sensitivity so anyone can sign. It's
all chaos. Make it so that the ballot being returned

(46:43):
has to have a chain of custody, and just make
that process very, very transparent. That's my Again, I don't
have an opinion on this. I just know, Yeah, well
that's it. I just that's just that's that's that's my
cross I think.

Speaker 1 (46:55):
But the article today featured there's a man by the
name of Michael Moore who you know neighbors are several
miles away, right, and but let me ask you this,
where did they go to get their groceries?

Speaker 13 (47:07):
Right?

Speaker 1 (47:07):
I mean, they make an effort to go somewhere to
get their groceries. Couldn't they also take a ballot with
them and vote at that time there? Or cast a ballot?
I mean, plan your grocery shopping on election day? Would
that be that hard?

Speaker 2 (47:18):
You remember the Tom Hanks movie where he stranded on
the island castaway, Yeah, castaway, and they named the ball Wilson.

Speaker 3 (47:23):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (47:24):
They're acting like this voter's wills castaway, Like he has
no chance to see human any human being in his life.
And if he can't mail that in, then I guess
he never gets his vote, never gets counted.

Speaker 1 (47:33):
Come on, where do you get your grocery?

Speaker 2 (47:35):
You gotta go somewhere.

Speaker 1 (47:36):
I got to go somewhere, So why not go there?
All right? You know, I'd like to get our listener's
opinion on this as they're heading home tonight. What would
happen in this state if we did a way of
mail in balloting eight eight eight five seven oh eight
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is have to dial pound two fifty and say, hey, Rod,
let's go to the phones. If you want to join

(47:56):
in on our conversation tonight about early voting other issues
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one zero eight eight eight five seven o eight zero
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two to fifty and say hey, Rod, it's.

Speaker 2 (48:09):
My favorite part of the show when we get to
hear from our listeners, the greatest listeners in all the land.
Let's go to Carrie in Tuwilla. Carrie, thank you for
calling into the Rodd and Greg Show.

Speaker 6 (48:20):
Hello.

Speaker 9 (48:20):
Sorry, in the background, you're going to hear my grandson's
playing soccer.

Speaker 2 (48:23):
Well, that's perfect, Colleen, I was calling.

Speaker 9 (48:27):
I heard earlier when you were talking about Coach Dungee
about voting with your conscience being Christian and difficulties with that.
And I don't know if you're aware. Lest I don't
know if it was Friday or Saturday, but KSL put
out a story about members of the Church of Jesus
Christ of Lardy Saints in Arizona that they're really trying

(48:51):
that Kanala Harris is really trying to get to vote
for her, and that just completely goes against everything that
my church, our church stamps work. And I didn't know
if you were aware of that, and it's just find
it kind of disheartening for me to see, you know,

(49:11):
KSM put out a news story like that.

Speaker 2 (49:14):
Kerry, thank you for your call, and I hope you're
able to listen even though you're watching your grandson's soccer game.
I'm on totally.

Speaker 11 (49:21):
I'm doing both.

Speaker 2 (49:24):
I want you to know I saw this and it's
even the photo of Kamala Harris in this in this
KSL story looks like a glam shot. It's not a
it's a It really feels like a fluff piece. So
I've I've actually reached out and said, where is the
companion minimum, Where is the companion piece where the Trump
campaign is also pursuing people from the Church of UIs Christ,

(49:46):
lottery Saints voters to earn their support. Where is at
least the companion story. Because I find that this story
is so oddly placed in our media market and from
the source of KSL. I don't understand it myself, Carrie.
I'm told there's a story that should come out that's similar,
similar to this about the other about Trump's campaign. But
I'm with you. I am shocked by when I read

(50:09):
that and I look at it, I don't get it.

Speaker 13 (50:11):
Really, Carrie.

Speaker 1 (50:12):
Let me ask you before we let you go carry
that story that you saw. What bothered you most about
the story? Did you feel it was kind of like
pro kamala.

Speaker 11 (50:22):
Very much?

Speaker 8 (50:23):
That ends it.

Speaker 9 (50:24):
I mean they're seeing there talking about you don't have
to be a Republican and blah blah blah blah blah,
and it's like, are you kidding? She stands for abortion,
which is killing babies, killing babies. Yes, I know that
Trump does it for the early part of the pregnancy.
I know it's really hard. I would love to see
it across the board, except for the life of the

(50:46):
mother or under you know, certain circumstances. But at least
Trump has an end point for her. If she gets
in there, there's going to be no end point. And
the thing that they're doing with our youth, I mean
they're literally destroying the future of our youth. And I

(51:07):
just I just was shocked. I just kept thinking, I
don't understand this. Where is the other site?

Speaker 1 (51:13):
Yeah, you're right, car so much. By the way, Carrie,
Oh thank you for doing that. I want to know, Carrie,
is your is your grandson winning?

Speaker 9 (51:25):
They are just warning up right now. When he said
hold on, I'll see you talk to you.

Speaker 2 (51:29):
And thank you for calling. Yeah, we're easy to talk
to you.

Speaker 1 (51:39):
I mean, if people are reluctant to call us, we
aren't these big bullies.

Speaker 2 (51:42):
No, and and then their observations are gold. I'm telling
you right now, if you take what Tony Donee said
calling out in his social media page Kamala Harris and
saying that she is a person of faith, but then
her support of pregnant you know, abortion at any stage,
he really articulates it from a place of uh, biblical,
from scripture, from belief, and there's really no room. There's

(52:04):
no moral ambiguity there. And so I really do have
an issue, as Carrie does and others probably do, where
you would find any acceptance in someone who advocates for
and and is okay with with abortion well to the
latest stage.

Speaker 1 (52:19):
And for her to say you aren't abandoning your your
faith if you support abortion, really, I mean, what what
commandment is?

Speaker 7 (52:26):
It?

Speaker 5 (52:27):
Is?

Speaker 14 (52:27):
It?

Speaker 1 (52:27):
Five? Six? It is all right?

Speaker 5 (52:31):
Now.

Speaker 1 (52:31):
We do have some callers. We want to get to
your thoughts on the mail in voting. We need to
take a news update. If you'd like to hang on,
we'll get to your call. Please hang on back or
calls back after a news update with that or coming
up right here on the Rotten Grape Show here on

(52:52):
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Speaker 2 (53:07):
Do we have more collars? Cause that's when it gets
really really.

Speaker 1 (53:09):
Good on this. Let's go back to the phones. Let's
talk with uh. Let's go to Terry in West Valley
tonight here on the Roden Greg Show. Terry, how are you?
Thanks for joining us tonight.

Speaker 13 (53:21):
This is Terry and Saul Lake.

Speaker 1 (53:23):
Right, go ahead, go ahead.

Speaker 13 (53:27):
Okay, Hey, you know you were talking about rural people
not wanting to travel the fifteen twenty thirty miles to
go in to vote once a year. These are the
same rural people who travel that fifteen twenty thirty miles
to go to church every week, travel the same fifteen
twenty thirty miles to take their kids to and from

(53:49):
activities at school five times a week. Those are the
same committed people that you're saying aren't going to vote
once a year.

Speaker 1 (53:58):
Yeah, well that's what's some people are saying.

Speaker 13 (54:01):
These are these are dedicated people. They're some of the
most loyal some of the most honorable people are rural
people because they live a completely different kind of life.

Speaker 1 (54:14):
They're going to vote, they are sure. Thank you, Terry.
All right, let's go to Bountiful and talk with Kyle today.
You're on the rod In great show. Hi Kyle, how
are you.

Speaker 11 (54:27):
I'm doing well.

Speaker 15 (54:27):
Thanks for taking my call, Greg and Rod. Just a
few things I want to say, my uh so, this
kind of struck a nerve with me, this last caller
you had, I mean before the break, and that was
regarding this article in Ksel about the uh this movement

(54:48):
or supposed movement in Arizona for members of the church. Well,
my brother lives in Arizona. He has uh he has
TVs pretty pretty bad. He will not be voting for
do Trump. However, he will not be voting for Kamala.
But I talked to I had a conversation with somebody

(55:10):
who is a very strong active member of the Latter
you know, the member of the Church of Just Christlarity Saints.
And I will say this my and this is kind
of one of the I guess the foundational principles for
me personally and my wife is we my wife was adopted,

(55:31):
and we have very strong feelings about killing unborn children. Yeah,
it's just you got to draw the line somewhere. And
my wife would not be alive if if the attitude
was such that, you know, this was okay. And her

(55:51):
mother she has a relationship with her birth mother now,
but it was you know, it was very difficult. But
she she went through the process and she gave my
my wife up for adoption so she can have a
wonderful life. And she was raised in a really wonderful,

(56:12):
very healthy family. And I just want to say that
I do not understand members of the church that will
actually compromise and say it's okay that abortion is actually
okay against the teachings of the church, because the teachings
of the church as abortion is not okay, you know,

(56:35):
other except for the life and the mother of so forth.
And this person that I spoke to that's a strong
member of the church said she was voting for Kamala Harris,
and I about I cannot believe it. I cannot believe.
I do not understand it where this is coming from.

(56:55):
But I will say this one last thing PARTY said
before I leave if Ronald ray In was campaigning today
that landslide victory that he had, if we if he
had the same corrupt news media that we have today.

Speaker 6 (57:11):
He would not have won. Yeah, because.

Speaker 15 (57:15):
I honestly believe this corrupt news media. It's a propaganda
that is that is pushing people are believing it, and
it's hard for me to understand because they're too lazy
to do their own research and they do not. They
just look at what's on the news. They read these
articles on Cassie out. They believe this garbage.

Speaker 1 (57:36):
Yeah, you're you're right.

Speaker 2 (57:37):
Now, you're right.

Speaker 1 (57:38):
I gotta get some other colors, but you're right. I
don't know what happened to the media, Greg, I've been
part of the media for fifty fifty years now, you know.
I don't know what happened to the media.

Speaker 2 (57:48):
I really, these are the standards that you were you
that you were pursuing. Are they No?

Speaker 1 (57:53):
I knew a lot of journalists. They were liberal, you know,
is pretty obvious, but they didn't allow that to affect
their their story. Their stories were usually pretty straightforwardes. I
thought they did a good job. But has changed, and
I don't know. I don't know if it was Trump
that changed it. If their love of Barack Obama changed
it because a lot of them thought he was the savior.
I don't know what changed with him, but it really

(58:14):
does it bothers me.

Speaker 2 (58:15):
One journalists told me that they thought that social media
at Twitter, where journalists began to share their opinions and
social media platforms, is.

Speaker 1 (58:23):
Where it should never be allowed to where they where
the fork in the road happened. We know of one
journalist who did that and lost his job, and he
should have That shouldn't be allowed me, you know, and
I know well freedom of speech, but in this case, folks,
if you want to be a journalist, straight down the
line journalist and do the best you can, you may
have some liberal leadings, you may have conservative leadings, but
if you realize as a journalist you are there to

(58:45):
tell the facts, not way in. Now you can weigh
in with words if you watch some times, I can
show you stories where a word gives you an indication
as to where they're coming from. Right, But you just
need to be aware that I don't know what change.
I don't know what happened to him. Insane is an
ogden to night here on the road in great show, Isaain.

Speaker 3 (59:02):
How are you good?

Speaker 6 (59:05):
Are you?

Speaker 15 (59:05):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (59:06):
Well? Thank you?

Speaker 6 (59:08):
Hey?

Speaker 2 (59:08):
So yeah.

Speaker 6 (59:09):
I like the idea of a national election holiday, thank you,
but I feel like too many people would use it
just to kind of have a day off work. I
think a better way of going about it would be
to make I feel like the real issue with not
having mail in ballots is the time availability of when

(59:32):
you can vote. So I think there should be a
week from like a Sunday to Sunday, where there are
locations available for you to go twenty four to seven.
Because there are people who work night shifts, there are
people who work off schedules, people who aren't around for
twelve hours, fourteen hours during their workday. So I think

(59:54):
if we had a full week of twenty four to
seven availability and no mail in ballots, it would be
a much better system.

Speaker 1 (01:00:02):
I didn't even think about what do you think about
the idea of a full week.

Speaker 2 (01:00:06):
I like it for a week. I don't know if
you're gonna mail it, if you're gonna vote in person,
how do you do it twenty four hours? I do
think you have to have some hours. I I like,
I like his idea a lot. I would I think
you can open up those voting days and make make
it a few more uh to vote in person. I
still don't think that if you had the box, you
had the election clerk at the box, so you didn't

(01:00:27):
have to get out of your car. If that's the
big problem, okay, but you go and you get your
license scanned as they do in bars. They do it
at you know, they do it at the pharmacy, they
do it at the I mean, you name it. They
are doing it everywhere. I think that I think that
chain of custody is absolutely essential. And I am done,
and I'm telling you folks, we have to be done
with the United States Postal Service and their union running

(01:00:50):
our elections. It's it was, it's it's it's they're not
doing it. Well, I can just tell you they're not.

Speaker 1 (01:00:56):
Did you see today the union that represents I R
S agent says.

Speaker 2 (01:01:00):
Did anyone know that the I R S had a union?
I did not know this news. You know those unions
are not Republican. Okay, and now the I R S
has got unions and they're all excited about Kamala. That's
a that's an audit waiting to happen.

Speaker 1 (01:01:15):
Let's go to Tony in Salt Lake City wants to
weigh in on this tonight. Tony and welcome to the
Rod and Grid Show.

Speaker 3 (01:01:21):
Hey, thanks for having me on tonight.

Speaker 1 (01:01:23):
I welcome.

Speaker 3 (01:01:24):
My question is my question is if Harris gets elected,
where's our constitution going to go? She's trying to take
our free speech, our guns, freedom of press, and everything
else away from us. Is this going to be a
new democratic constitution? Where is our constitution going to go?

Speaker 1 (01:01:48):
Yeah? That I don't want to even think about it,
to be all right, I hate Let me tell you
what you're spot on. Where does the constitution go? This
is an organization the Democrats. We've talked about this a
couple of weeks ago. Look at the headlines.

Speaker 2 (01:02:03):
I was going to say, they're planning the seeds.

Speaker 1 (01:02:05):
They're planning the seeds to change the constitution. Yes, and
she'll lead the chart if they have White House support.
No telling what Good New.

Speaker 2 (01:02:12):
York Times says. The Constitution is dangerous. It's a dangerous document.
They want a pure democracy because they want the nine
million in Los Angeles County to dwarf our opinion or
our state on our interests and our sovereignty is a state.
They want that erased, and they would stack the court.
They would add more senators from Puerto Rico and from Washington,

(01:02:33):
d C. They would give themselves four more senators if
they could. They will change this country drastically if given
that chance.

Speaker 1 (01:02:41):
And there'll be no slowing down that train.

Speaker 2 (01:02:43):
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Sure you downloaded today. You can do it so very
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Speaker 2 (01:02:50):
And you know what I mean. You need to get that.
You need to get the podcast because if you missed
any of the segments of this show, you know they're
a little condensed. It's not as long as the three
hour show, but it's got We've discussed some very important
issues today, very important.

Speaker 1 (01:03:03):
Well, we've got a couple more to talk about. Of course.
One of the key issues in this campaign, along with
the economy, has been what do we do about illegal
immigration and the impact is having on this country. And
I've never up until this new study, I've never seen
a number attached to the cost of illegal immigration and
what is costing US taxpayers. And that's why I wanted

(01:03:24):
to bring our next guest on. He is with a
Manhattan Institute and his study found that the mass deportation
of unskilled criminal aliens would greatly reduce America's national deficit. Boy,
do we need that Greg. His name is Daniel Martinez
di Martino. He is an immigrant himself to the US,
joining us on our Newsmaker line. Daniel, thank you very much.

(01:03:45):
Tell us about this survey and what you found out.

Speaker 8 (01:03:47):
Daniel, Well, the thing that motivated me was that we
had seen a terrible border crisis for the last few years,
and you had seen a lot of numbers thrown around
with the cost of this, or you know, they pay
taxes and what did they pay taxes? And nobody had
done something that was comprehensive at the federal level, at
the cost or under benefits at the federal level all

(01:04:09):
different types of immigration. Right. There had been one study
many years ago that showed it, but they had some
assumptions that I thought were wrong.

Speaker 5 (01:04:17):
And then the.

Speaker 8 (01:04:18):
CEO recently released this report saying that actually the wader
crisis was good for the federal budget. And I checked
their assumptions and they didn't seem as credible, and so
I undertook my own study, you.

Speaker 2 (01:04:30):
Know, Daniel, I for many years I would come across.
When I was in college, I came across people that had,
through a student visa, through legal means or ways, had
been here in our country. I would need that student visa,
and if they'd like to stay longer, there was a
process and they would work very hard. It's a very
arduous process. I think, too arduous. But I've always been

(01:04:53):
supportive of those that come, as you've described in your article,
that actually are a benefit and bring this value. I've
heard recently that that there's this narrative that if people
that come here, even through a work visa, stay for
some prolonged time, they're displacing even those that would work
in those higher placed jobs or higher compensating jobs. Tell

(01:05:15):
me why that that is or isn't the case.

Speaker 8 (01:05:20):
Will if I'm understanding, well, you're saying that it may
not be as good if they come on a work visa.

Speaker 2 (01:05:27):
Yeah, just because, well your premise is that those that
come and they're educated, and they and they're they're contribute
to the workforce, and they're they're well common said, they
were using less, they're taking less public benefits, they're they're
contributing to the economy. There are good things happening But
then I hear this other narrative out there that there
is still a net drag on our economy because American
workers have less options or they're displacing their jobs.

Speaker 13 (01:05:51):
Is that true?

Speaker 2 (01:05:51):
Is that a wives tale?

Speaker 8 (01:05:52):
You know, if if more people meant fewer jobs, the
United States, who still have a few hundred thousand jobs
like it did in seventeen seventy six. So right, like
the fact that the population grows doesn't mean a bad thing,
or you know, otherwise the declining fertility would have been
the best thing for the labor market, right, And it

(01:06:15):
really isn't at the end, immigrants or people just like
new people born here. The question that does matter sometimes
on the labor market issues is the relative impact. That is,
if you get suddenly a huge influx of cooks, right,
obviously the price of cooking or really restaurant services is

(01:06:35):
going to fall relative to the rest of services on
the economy, and so the people in that sector will
be hurt, but the people in the other sectors will benefit.
Net is not much change when we think about high
skilled immigration. It's not on just one specific sector, is
on several. But you could say that lower skilled Americans
actually benefit from high skilled immigration, because there's more engineers

(01:06:57):
that require homes, that require restaurant services, that require hotels,
and the ones that are hurt are really high income
Americans from that type of thing. But then there are
secondary effects from high school immigration that are more positive
and that are not usually accounted for and certainly not
on my study, which is the productivity. Right, when you
get people like Elo Musque, they create new things, that

(01:07:21):
create new industries, they start new businesses, they make things
cheaper and are more efficient, and that's the kind of
thing that we want, not just you know, any country
really wants, right, because there are countries like Singapore that
allowed a lot of really high school people to come
and now they're one of the most rich countries in
the world. So that's the kind of thing. That's how

(01:07:44):
at least economies think about high school immigration generally.

Speaker 1 (01:07:47):
Daniel, you're an immigrant in yourself from well on, aronstand
but you took issue with the CBO report and you
said it is flawed. What's wrong with that report? What
doesn't it take into account?

Speaker 8 (01:07:57):
Daniel, Well, they are. Number one thing is because Congress
only cares about the next ten years and not the
next one hundred years. The report only focuses on the
impact over the next ten years. And over the next
ten years usually most people are really positive for the budget,
right because when a thirty year old immigrant gets here

(01:08:19):
across the border, they're going to keep working until they're
forty at least, right, But if you take into account
that that person may stay until they're eighty and die here,
they're going to end up getting Social Security, Medicare, other
medical services, they're going to get other types of welfare.
States are going to help them, and so it's very

(01:08:39):
important to include the retirement period in any of these studies,
otherwise they're going to be biased towards the positive side.
Then they also didn't take into account what is usually
referred to as public goods. So more people also means
more cars on the road. It also means potentially more
people needing food obviously, and so more farmers getting farms.

(01:08:59):
Obsid on these kinds of secondary effects.

Speaker 2 (01:09:03):
You know, I'm so I'm very bullish on legal immigration,
I really am, and I appreciate your analysis and how
you're pointing out the obvious benefits of a country like
America with it that is a melting pot, and our
legal immigration let me just ask you this though, as
I've gotten to know some people who've struggled to be
able to stay in this country legally and to get

(01:09:24):
if they were a student and they want to stay
here and get a work visa, I've always felt like
the process could be so hard it almost lends itself
to illegal immigration. I'm all for a fence or a wall,
but with a wide gate. Do you think that our
current immigration system and the process it takes for someone
to legally reside in the United States is prohibitive and

(01:09:46):
actually doesn't work or does it work well in your mind?

Speaker 6 (01:09:51):
I totally agree.

Speaker 8 (01:09:52):
Look, I've been going in that process myself, and it's
taken a very long time. It's been very costly, very complex,
very arduous. I came to America eight years ago, also
a student from Venezuela. I'm completing my PhD in economics,
and it's very difficult. And I'll say I think that's
kind of what I proposed to my report, is that

(01:10:15):
imagine if.

Speaker 6 (01:10:16):
I had been from India.

Speaker 8 (01:10:17):
I'm not from Venezuela. If you were born in India
and you applied to obtain a green cart today through
any skilled category, even if you got the Nobel Price,
you will not be allowed to stay in America. That's
how messed up the US immigration system is. And that
is unacceptable. Right If you are the Nobel Prize winner
in chemistry and you happen to have been born in India,
you should be wandered in the United States. And so

(01:10:40):
that's what I'm proposing to reform. And one of the
ways I do it is say that everybody with a
STEMP graduate degree from the US College should be accepted
from visa caps. That would increase immigration annually by about
fifteen thousand people, which is really less than two of
border crossings at this point. Yeah, yeah, yeah, but it

(01:11:07):
would have a huge impact. Right, We're talking about billions
and billions of tax revenue.

Speaker 1 (01:11:11):
Yeah. Final question for you, Daniel, what happens in your
opinion if we don't do anything, if we leave the
system the way it is, no attempts are made to
reform it, to change it. What happens if we don't
do anything, Daniel?

Speaker 8 (01:11:23):
In your opinion, I think the US is going to
find itself in a few decades with a lot more
illegal immigration. People who are going to be here and
are going to be crossing the governmental lot. When they retire,
the budget situation is going to get much worse, and
we're going to see that other countries are going to
begin to overtake America in the innovation race. There are

(01:11:45):
companies like Google and an Apple that have open headquarters
across the border in Canada and Vancouver across from Seattle,
so that everybody who can't come here who is high skilled,
they just send them to Canada, and Canada is in
a free lunch. And I think that it's just again's
the interest of the United States.

Speaker 1 (01:12:02):
Long run on our newsmaker line. That's Daniel D. Martino.
He is a PhD candidate in economics at Columbia, also
a University graduate Fellow at the Manhattan Institution.

Speaker 2 (01:12:12):
Welcome back to the Rod and Greg Show on Talk
Radio one oh five nine.

Speaker 1 (01:12:15):
Kenrs, Well, the Republicans did it again? What not standing
up to the Washington establishment. They had an opportunity with
a continuing Resolution to place a minor issue in that bill, Greg,
which says, if you want to vote in a federal election,
you have to prove you're a citizen of the United States.

Speaker 2 (01:12:35):
They cad, wouldn't it be nice to have the Democrats
say they can't live with that shut down the government.
I can't live with foreigners not voting in this election.
So it had been a good moment.

Speaker 1 (01:12:44):
Well. Joining us on our Newsmaker line to talk more
about that now is Joey Chester. Joey is the communications
manager for FAIR, that is, the Federation for American Immigration Reform.
All right, Joey, explain to us what on earth happened?

Speaker 14 (01:13:00):
Man, Well, it's like groundhog Day. It's like every chance
we get this is the same thing that happens every
single time. So if you remember, the Save Act, which
is to prevent illegal aliens from influencing our elections, actually
passed the House already with bipartisan support, but Chuck Schumer
refused to take it up in the Senate. But then
we had this great opportunity coming up where the government

(01:13:23):
is going to shut down at the end of September
unless some sort of spending bill is passed, and so
Speaker Mike Johnson came up with a great plan to
force Schumer's hand by deciding to do a continuing resolution,
so keeping the government funding level at what it is,
but attaching the Save Act to that. Because Schumer, in

(01:13:45):
his interest needs to keep the government open, and so
it would actually, for the first time, be some leverage
over Chuck Schumer that Speaker Johnson really hasn't used yet.
But what happened was we had a certain number of
Republicans that decided either that they weren't happy with just
keeping the current funding levels or they wanted more funding

(01:14:07):
in certain areas. But even some Democrats voted for this,
the CR plus the Save Act, but these Republicans, there
was some opposition, and we just couldn't get it through.
And what infuriates me the most, and I think, and
this is part of why I don't understand these Republicans.
The Speaker Johnson is now going to pass a continuing
resolution without the Save Act, and so this is what

(01:14:29):
was going to happen anyways. So I don't know why
those those members of the Republican Party didn't just decide,
you know what, we're going to suck it up. This
is what's going to happen anyways. Let's take a win
and force Schumer's hand for once.

Speaker 13 (01:14:41):
You know.

Speaker 2 (01:14:41):
So, I'm a recovering public servant. I served on our
state House. I served as the majority whip and the
Speaker of the House, and with that majority, there was
I don't even think it was a pronounced or written rule,
but the unsaid rule was that we, as the majority,
will make the decisions. The day that we have to
go to the Democrats who are in the minority to

(01:15:01):
have them decide how business will be conducted in the
House would be a day that we didn't deserve to
be a majority. So my question is, with that mindset
that I have, did these Republicans, who I understand are
do not If you're in a hole, you got to
quit digging at some point, and deficit spending is not
our future. Did they think somehow that if they refused

(01:15:22):
to support this continuing resolution that had the Save Act
in it, that there wouldn't be the votes to pass
a continuing resolution? Or were they Were they doing it
so that they could feel good about themselves but leave
the decision making and the negotiations for the Democrats to
decide what this would look like.

Speaker 14 (01:15:40):
Yeah, that's a great question. And look on a personal level,
I understand where they're coming from for the reasons that
you just said, but I think they know that this
is going to happen anyways, and they just are are
saying these are my beliefs, this is my conviction. I
can't bring my help to do this. And so the

(01:16:02):
vote to KNOW on the CR with the Save Act,
and they're going to vote KNOW again. And it's not
like rocket science. We know from history that Speaker Johnson
has relied on the Democrats before to pass a continuing resolution,
So it's not like it was going to be a
surprise to them when this failed that Johnson would go
to a clean CR and use the Democrats help to

(01:16:23):
get it through. And so I just wish we could
take to take in the win and force Schumer's hand.
It is really frustrating for me because I think it
was one last chance to actually force a Senate Democrats
to do something related to you know, it's not quite
border security, but it deals with illegal immigration.

Speaker 1 (01:16:43):
We're talking right now with Joey Chester. Joey is the
communications manager with the Federation for American Immigration Reform. Joey
the argument from the Democrats has been, well, we really
don't need it. There's not that much fraud taking place
in our elections. But every day we're starting to see
more and more stories people who are either being kicked
off the voter rolls because they aren't legal residents of

(01:17:05):
this country, or there's other fraud involved. What do you
make of this argument that we don't need it.

Speaker 14 (01:17:11):
Well, I think it's a horrible argument. Look, you know
the speed limit is fifty five miles an hour. People
are going to drive sixty five. Just because something is
the law doesn't mean that people are going to violate that.
You have to have other safeguards in place and do
everything possible. And the other thing too, is there's never
been a large scale investigation to figure out just how

(01:17:31):
many non citizens are registered to vote across the country. Now,
some states have taken steps to investigate that. Virginia found
thousands of non citizens. I know Ohio has found people.
I think Alabama found people. I just saw a story
I think was from Iowa today the attorney general was
prosecuting a non citizen for voter fraud. Oregon from an

(01:17:51):
audit just admitted that the DMB registered at least three
hundred non citizens to vote. And so we know that
non citizens are registering to vote. There's thousands of them
across the country and right now, and this is what's
so infuriating. The only thing really standing in the way
of any legal or a non citizen. Registering to vote

(01:18:15):
is a checkbox, basically a test saying yes, I'm a citizen,
you know, let me register to vote. And so we
need more safeguards in place. And then the other key
with it is purging those non citizens from the voter rules.
That's the other key part of the Save Act is
it will force every state to look and see who
the non citizens are that they're registered and get them

(01:18:37):
off because look, we know in a lot of states
congressional races, he the presidential the last two presidential elections
states were decided in the thousands of votes, and so
if you have thousands of non citizens registered to vote
in certain places, you could be looking at election altering
levels of voting. And so, you know, I don't think
it should be controversial to just want to cure elections,

(01:19:00):
and I think it's incredibly popular with the American people.

Speaker 2 (01:19:04):
So, just to recap, there was an opportunity in the House, okay,
where we could have where the Republicans and a thin
razors thin majority could have sent a continuing resolution spending
bill to prevent the government from shutting down right before
by September thirty th right before the election, and in
doing that, it would have been Chuck Schumer and the
Democrats that would have risked shutting down the federal government

(01:19:27):
if they had to accept the Save Act, which prohibits
foreigners from voting in our elections. I can't imagine worse optics,
better optics for Republicans, a better way to out the
Democrats that they actually do want to cheat, because if
it didn't matter, then just it'd be the easiest bill
to vote for if it didn't have any effect at all.
It must have an effect if you're ready to draw
that bright line. We can't get the Republicans in the

(01:19:50):
House to send over a bill to create that dilemma
for those for Schumer and the Democrats. So this is
my bit labored question. After I said all that, why
would any American vote to kee the Republicans and the
majority in the House. Why?

Speaker 14 (01:20:03):
Good?

Speaker 2 (01:20:04):
I don't I don't even know what they're going to
campaign on. What we like to give the Democrats the
cr budget to craft because we can't agree amongst ourselves.
What is the argument to keep the majority for Republicans
in this election?

Speaker 14 (01:20:18):
Well, look, I will say Fair is a non partisan
nonprofit We don't get involved in elections. But just from
reading and listening to what people are saying, there are
many Americans asking that same question and who feel very
frustrated because they feel that Republicans, by winning the House

(01:20:39):
in twenty twenty two, were given a mandate and one
of the things they wanted to see done was border
security and immigration reform. And there had been other times
where they have had leverage and they have squandered each
and every opportunity. And I'm now, I'm not saying it's
all speaker Johnathon's fall. Individual members fall for their reasons

(01:21:00):
for not getting things done. But I think what you're
saying is something that's going to be on a lot
of Americans minds when they could have vote this.

Speaker 1 (01:21:08):
November and let me Joey, thank you. Joey Chestnut, he is.

Speaker 2 (01:21:11):
With the not Jerry Chestnut. I got that in your job.
Georg Chester Chester, Sorry, Joey, Sorry. Joey Chestnut is the
champion hot dog eater from the Cony Park, Coney Island,
you know, hot dog eating contest.

Speaker 1 (01:21:22):
Joey Chester needs to change his name because always George Chester.
All right, more coming up The Roddy and Gregg Show,
right here on Utah's Talk Radio one oh five nine
k n R S Taylor Swift, Travis Kelsey.

Speaker 2 (01:21:33):
Yeah, Swift, I'm telling you you she has just she's
alienated a lot of fans.

Speaker 1 (01:21:39):
Well, Mahomes has come on and said, uh, Travis isn't
getting the ball simply because of defenses against him this year.

Speaker 2 (01:21:48):
Now your argument, yeah, I translate that, yes, please do
oh his wife is supporting Mahomes wife is supporting Trump.
She is so mad and Pat Holmes, Patrick, Mahomes is
not going to go home to an angry wife. So Kelsey,
while he's date her, he's never seen the ball. It's over.

Speaker 1 (01:22:03):
Did you see him sitting on the bench last night?

Speaker 2 (01:22:05):
Was he moping?

Speaker 1 (01:22:05):
You know, he's moping. You know why? I think she's
dumping him.

Speaker 2 (01:22:08):
No, I think he's not getting the ball because he's dating.
I think I think Taylor Swift has ruined it. She's
ruined it all. So I think he's trouble in paradise.

Speaker 1 (01:22:19):
He is about to dump that Guyckred, you get that haircut.

Speaker 2 (01:22:23):
I've never thrown you the ball. As long as you're
dating that Taylor Swift pal, that's all you have to know.

Speaker 1 (01:22:29):
That does it for us tonight, head out, shoulders back made.
God bless you and your family in this great country
of hours. We're back tomorrow at four with The Rod
and Greg Show.

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