Rod and Greg Show: Voucher Law Ruled Un-constitutional; Global Engagement Center Shuttered; Larry Gelwix Joins the Show

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
How many eggs did you put out?

Speaker 2 (00:01):
Four hundred and sixty?

Speaker 1 (00:02):
Now I have to qualify that those aren't actual No,
they colored, you know, they boiled and colored, because that
would be four and sixty thousand dollars I did.

Speaker 2 (00:11):
I helped the Easter bunny. You helped the Easter bunny.
We distributed about four hundred and.

Speaker 1 (00:16):
Sixty eight plastic, gave it a little something inside.

Speaker 2 (00:18):
Yeah, but they have little giftsons cash, little cash hole,
little cashole, big cash hole.

Speaker 1 (00:23):
There you go, that Easter bunny.

Speaker 2 (00:25):
There, that Easter bunny. But I had to come to
the Have you ever tried to distribute four hundred and
sixty two eggs? How many?

Speaker 3 (00:32):
How many?

Speaker 1 (00:33):
Craig did?

Speaker 2 (00:33):
You have seven grandchildren and my wife believes each and
every one of them should get at least sixty eggs.

Speaker 1 (00:40):
Oh my, yeah, that's like you said.

Speaker 2 (00:43):
I mean, if they were real eggs, I'd be broke today.

Speaker 1 (00:45):
You would be serious.

Speaker 2 (00:48):
Yeah, but well it's Easter. It's a tradition at our
home and the kids absolutely love it. So me and
the Easter bunny we did the jole.

Speaker 1 (00:56):
You can't hide that many eggs, You're just we drain
them all over the lestl Yeah, that's not hiding. I
used to put them under the trampoline. I used to
put them behind But these are you know, two of
these are real little ones, like they're four and three.

Speaker 2 (01:10):
You can't expect them to find things.

Speaker 1 (01:12):
Yeah, but the older kids are going to get them
before the three or four year old.

Speaker 2 (01:14):
That's okay, that's okay, that's okay. I want to know.
We got a lot to talk about today, Greg, but
I want to know them. I have we have a
NERD demonstration at the capital over the weekend, right about
Do these people have nothing to do?

Speaker 1 (01:30):
Yeah, they don't have lives. Can we geotract those phones
and see what they've been to every probably every Loser
convention in Utah and probably the Western United States?

Speaker 2 (01:39):
Yeah? Probably probably. Boy, we've got a lot to get to.
Is we started another great week of excellence in broadcasting
here on the Rod and Greg Joe here in a minute,
we'll talk about these judges, both nationally and here in
the state, who are controlling everything that either Donald Trump
wants to do or we want done in this state.
It's pretty amazing the power of these judges.

Speaker 1 (01:57):
Well, I'll tell you what if a judge could just
look at every single bill our state legislature passes, maybe
every bill they've ever passed, because they're batt in a thousand.
Every time they get some in front of them, they somehow.

Speaker 2 (02:08):
Rule this way could be tossed out.

Speaker 1 (02:09):
How does the legislature survive without the judiciary?

Speaker 2 (02:12):
Well, never know. Now we'll talk about that. We'll also
talk about the Harvard is now suing the Trump administration
over their cuts. We'll get into that. That's so the
driving force behind school choice in Utah is going to
join us get a reaction. This happened as we are
getting off the heir on Friday. A judge ruled the
Utah Fits All scholarship program is unconstitutional.

Speaker 1 (02:34):
Yeah, I can't.

Speaker 2 (02:35):
I don't get around. I don't get that. Now, we'll
get into that. We've got a lot of things to
get to today as well. So we invite you to
be a part of the program. Eight eight eight five
seven eight zero one zero or on your cell phone,
all you do is have to dial pound two fifty
and say hey, Rod. All right. First of all, the
federal judge ruling on the deportation of Benzo Whalenskay, it
happened Friday. There was a two or three busloads carrying

(02:58):
these Venza whalens to an air court in Texas to
send them down to El Salvador, and a judge No,
the Supreme Court stepped in, even without a fair hearing,
stepped in, said you can't do that.

Speaker 1 (03:09):
Yeah, you had about one hundred and thirty three minutes,
if I read correctly the descent from Judge Alito, one
hundred and thirty three minutes from start to the Supreme
Court acting. He questions why they would act in the
middle of the night, Why that you wouldn't go to
an appeals court, You wouldn't let the government actually make
its case all the things that happened there. Man, if

(03:31):
we I mean, there's been similar cases, but maybe not
from the left of center lane that have never seen
the Roberts Court for a hearing period, let alone with
note within one hundred and thirty three minutes in the
middle of the night. And so it's just frustrating to watch,
what do we say, thirty injunctions over a few hundred

(03:51):
thousand deportations you've had prior presence with millions of demail
no injunctions, zero injunctions.

Speaker 2 (03:57):
Pretty amazing.

Speaker 1 (03:58):
We're in a different climate.

Speaker 2 (04:00):
Amazing. Well, there were a couple of audio somebodies. I
want you here. First of all, Tom Holman. I don't
know why. Tom. He's the borders are showed up on
Morning Joe.

Speaker 1 (04:09):
He's not afraid of anyone.

Speaker 2 (04:10):
He's not afraid of anybody. Tom Holman met him, he's
been on this show before, A great, great guy. But
he kind of laid it out to Joe and kind
of explained, why is it that we didn't vent ten
and a half million coming into the country, but we're
vetting everybody who's trying to leave.

Speaker 4 (04:25):
What he had to say, we're found the law, unlike
the last administration who ignored the law, who actually violated
the law of bringing one hundred thousand people giving him
pro status, a misuse of the pro statue. As you're
well aware, there wasn't a case by case analysis of
the hundreds of thousands they prode in this country legally.
But now all of a sudden they want a vetting
process for deportation. There's no vetting process for the hundreds

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of thousands, actually millions of people they've released in the country,
no vetting process at all. But now they expect a
vetting process, who those whom seen in Immigration Judge been
order removed and all of a sudden they wanted even
a mor of a vetting process for which reported it's
it's it's just it's ridiculous. How the how the the
left has changed the story from the from releasing mains

(05:07):
in the United States to now now they got a
quarter to deport them. Now we got cue do after
except give them an actor vetting them, betting they didn't
get when it came in.

Speaker 2 (05:15):
It's it's just ridiculous. It's ridiculous.

Speaker 1 (05:18):
And here's the big here's the big trick. You want
to know why there was zero vetting where they're saying, okay,
you said the word asylum, you don't have to say
anything else, and here's your court date in three to
five years from now. Everybody come in if you can
say that word, and three to five years you'll have
a court date. The reason that they didn't vet in
real time is they knew that that would mean that
you wouldn't have a lot of people coming across because

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you would have to vet them. What they what the
left is trying to do now they have millions that
are here. If they can gum it up and have
this protracted process. They know there's not enough quurts, there's
not enough hours in the day, there's not enough years
to ever go through that process for those that they
haven't vetted coming in for the reason that you wouldn't
have let there wouldn't be that any in if they

(06:00):
had done it, to let them out that way, you'd
be thirty years into that process to get through the
ones that Obama or Biden let through in four years.
It's it's just a way to stop Trump and his
tracks because these are actual people that they intend to
vote someday. Do you absolutely expect them to be voters?

Speaker 2 (06:17):
Another group of lawmakers went down. Four members of the
House from Democrats were down in else over the day.
This is pretty pretty interesting. But do you notice, Greg,
have you picked up on this how the Democrats have
now pivoted slightly on their message.

Speaker 1 (06:31):
Well, they're not pro im thirteen gang members and wife
beaters and human traffickers.

Speaker 2 (06:36):
What they're saying, we aren't defending the man, we're defending
the process. Yeah, and how they turned that around.

Speaker 1 (06:43):
That man has had two hearings, he's had he's had
I mean, you talk about a person that's had a
lot of due process. And this one person we're talking about,
I think he's had his face, he's had to FaceTime
with this court that many haven't. He's had a lot
of due process. But here's the thing. They can get
us to stare at one person this long. That's what

(07:03):
slows everything down. That's what brings it all to a
screeching hall, which is why. But they're trading their credibility
for people. Oh they are across Republican Democrats, Independence, It's
like up to seventy percent want these people that were
unvetted that came across. That's made every state feel like
a border state to leave because they came illegally.

Speaker 2 (07:21):
Well, the sound bite of the weekend came from MSNBC
anchor Simone Sanders right over the weekend. Yes, she was
talking about deporting people. She said, Okay, they're deporting VENs
of whalens now, but guess who's coming next.

Speaker 1 (07:34):
Because if they could.

Speaker 5 (07:35):
Do it to them, if they could snatch students.

Speaker 6 (07:37):
Off the street without any pushback or recourse, they will
do it to any of us.

Speaker 7 (07:42):
It's to be very clear, it's gonna be the people
of color and vulnerable communities that are next to.

Speaker 2 (07:47):
Them on See, they've discovered the plan. First of all,
we're going to deport all the VENs of Whalens who
are in this country illegally. Then we're going after the blacks. See,
that's what we're doing. Two hearings that said the person
the illegally here. Both hearings they had to be deported
with the only difference of opinion being the country of
origin versus a different country. But deportation orders have been

(08:09):
submitted for this person. They are a known gang member.
The wife put two different requests for protection against him
because he was a serial wife beatery, so she said
in her written statement. She has pictures and everything else.
And they go from that slippery slope to it could
be anything. American, black, any.

Speaker 1 (08:26):
Minority walking on the street can be treated like this
individual here.

Speaker 2 (08:29):
Black American citizens their next.

Speaker 1 (08:31):
Yeah right, it's a little bit of a little bit
of a stretch, Yeah, just a bit.

Speaker 2 (08:34):
All right. We've got a lot to get to today.
As always, great to have you on the show and
great to be with you if you want to be
a part of the program. Eight eight eight five seven
eight zero one zero when we come back. Harvard sues
the Trump administration over the threats of cutting funding. That's
coming up on The Roden Greg Show and Talk Radio
one O five to nine K and R as well.
This just broke before we came on the air this afternoon. Harvard,

(08:57):
the world's wealthiest university, is now soon the Trump administration
on Monday, fighting back against its threats to slash billions
of dollars from the school's research funding as part of
a crusade against the nation's top colleges. Joining us on
our Newsmaker Line to talk more about that is Jonathan Tobin.
Jonathan is editor in chief of Jewish News Service, Joining

(09:17):
us on our Newsmaker Line right now. Jonathan, how are
you welcome back to the Rodin Greg Show.

Speaker 6 (09:22):
Great to be with you.

Speaker 2 (09:23):
Thank you. What do you make of this latest news
that Harvard is going after the Trump administration for the
funding cuts.

Speaker 6 (09:30):
Well, the countersuit is, you know, an inevitable part of
this controversy. They're using every legal and political tool in
at their disposal to try to send this off. But
I think the main takeaway is, you know that they're
talking points about defending democracy or that Trump interfering illegally

(09:51):
and their private in their academic freedom. Trying to destroy
science and education is just complete nonsense. It's gasl What
they're doing is defending their right to carry on as
they have been the last several years, but especially since
October seventh, twenty twenty three, which is basically tolerating and

(10:15):
encouraging anti semitism on their campuses by not enforcing their
own rules and quite frankly violating the terms of the
funding they get from the federal government, which under Title
six of the nineteen sixty four Civil Rights Act, compel
them to not engage in discrimination or to tolerate discrimination.

(10:36):
That is exactly what they're doing. They're fighting for the
right to tolerate anti semitism. But let me just say
one more thing. This isn't only about anti semitism, and
that's part of the reason why some people who are
worried about antisemitism but are politically liberal are saying no,
Trump is still wrong, because this is more than antisemitism.

(10:56):
The antisemitism that we've been seeing on campuses, especially since
i've since the October seventh atrocities, it's just a symptom
of a larger leftist war on Western civilization and the
values of the American Republic that are part of the
left long progressive, long march through our institutions. The anti
Semitism is just a symptom. It's a sidebar of what

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they've been doing and their effort to basically destroy our
entire civilizational foundation. And that's why Trump is not only
in the right, it's absolutely necessary that we carry on
with this effort to reform education.

Speaker 1 (11:33):
So there's been a basic premise as I've understood the
relationship between states, states rights, and the federal government, and
I have often complained that states are too dependent on
federal money for this reason that if you want the
federal money, there's a certain rules, certain rules you have
to follow, certain things you have to do, and so
you lose your sovereignty because you're basically taking orders from
the government to get their money. What I've never ever

(11:54):
heard is we want none of your rules and we
want your money and we're going to court to get it.
Is there, I just I don't even understand it. I
don't even know how that were that is or precedent
for that. Is there an example where you can say,
not only am I not going to follow what this
administration wants or what the federal dollars are attached to
by way of what our suppose. We don't want to

(12:16):
do any of it, and you should give us all
that money. Anyway. Where when has this happened before.

Speaker 6 (12:21):
Well, it hasn't, And you're absolutely right. The truth is,
you know, contrary to the arguments we're hearing from Harvard
and some of these other schools, but federal government has
been in the business of these schools. And you know,
basically all the colleges and universities around the country, all
of which almost all of which takes federal money. It's
part of the model of higher education since World War Two,

(12:43):
and you know, and especially since the nineteen sixty four
Civil Rights Act and those schools that weren't willing to
abide by its terms, whether they were at some sort
of conservative Christian schools that were a conservative institution like
Killsdale College, you know, they didn't want the affirmed of
Action and all the other things that seem to go

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with it as the courts interpreted the Civil Rights Act.
They just didn't take the money. You know, Hillsdale doesn't
take any money from the federal government. They therefore they
can do whatever they want. And the federal government can't
do anything about it, and you know that's fine. You know,
Harvard wants its cake, you know, and once its cake
and wants to eat it too. It says we want

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all your money. In fact, we think we're entitled to
all of your money. But we also won't comply because
we just don't want to. Now, the thing is, Harvard is,
as well as to many schools, in completely in a
position to do whatever it wants and to not take
federal money. They have an endowment worth fifty three billion

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dollars that's billion with a B, which is more than
the gross domestic product of over one hundred countries on
this planet. They can afford not to take the money.
Many schools can't if they want to continue. But their
argument that Trump is just detroying science, well, if they
don't want to destroy science, they have two choices. You know,
if they want to continue funding you know, their various

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medical departments and research institutes, which I'm not arguing you
know that they shouldn't, they can do one of two things.
They can either pay for it themselves, which certainly Harvard can,
or they can comply. They're willing to sacrifice, you know,
they're holding their research institutes, you know, and all the
various things that they fund, you know, hostage to the

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fact that they are, you know, will not violate the
sort of woke ideology by agreeing to give up DEI
and anti Semitism.

Speaker 2 (14:38):
Yeah, why do I get a sense they aren't going
to give in Jonathan? I just have the sense right now.
Jonathan has always great having you on the show. Thanks
for a few minutes of your time today. Thank you
all right. Joining us on our news maker line here
on the Rotting Greg Show is Jonathan Tobin. He is
a editor in chief of the Jewish News Services. They're
suing the administration of the threats of funding and they,

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as Jonathan just mentioned, they have this huge endowment. They
could live without this money, but they aren't going to
do it. This is amazing.

Speaker 1 (15:08):
The entitlement and arrogance of these elitists is just it's
just it's unbelievable to me. It's been the they made
everyone drive fifty five miles an hour. When I say we,
I mean the federal government. Everyone go fit if you
want a federal transportation mine. The whole country's going fifty
five miles an hour for some period of time, because
that was a federal requirement to get federal money for freeways. Well,
how in the world does Harvard say, I want, we

(15:29):
want to do anything, we want, whatever we want, and
you should send that money anyway? Who are they? When
did this become a rule the elites?

Speaker 2 (15:37):
Mike, we say more, all right, more coming up here
on the Rod and Greg Show on this Monday afternoon
and Utah's Talk radio one oh five nine k n RS. Well,
the state of Utah got a bit of a gift.
I guess we would call it. Right late Friday, as
Greg and I were leaving this show, a Utah judge
rules the Utah Fits All Scholarship program, which basically is

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school choice, was unconstantitutional. Greg, What in the world is
that judge thinking?

Speaker 1 (16:02):
And it's in. What's really wrong about it is this
is a program that's full fledged being implemented. You have families,
you have students that are using the scholarship to for
their education, delivering education. And our state constitution says that
every child will be afforded a education. It doesn't say
in a school district, you know, a traditional school district.

(16:25):
It's an education, and this scholarship was a beautiful way
to empower to do that these kids with their families,
because delivery of education can be a lot different today
than it was a long time ago. It's already underway.
You're going to take this away from all of these
kids with this judge's ruling. But we'd on the street,
my contacts believe that were they're going to see an
appeal to the State Supreme Court, and it's a pretty

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solid law. There's there's not a lot to argue against here.

Speaker 2 (16:50):
So well, let's find out more about the judges rolling.
Joining us on our newsmaker line at State Representative Candice Perucci,
the driving force behind this effort over the last several years.
Representative things for joining us. Where were you and what
were you doing when you heard the judges rolling on
Friday night?

Speaker 8 (17:05):
We listen, I was boiling eggs so that we could
paint Easter eggs Friday evening and kind of blew up
my evening. I'm not gonna lie it. I was flatbergasted,
quite frankly one because it was a surprise. We'd been
monitoring this and waiting, obviously for a decision to come,
but didn't think there was going to be one for
a bit and then ed dropped on a Friday, right

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as people are leaving to go home from work. And
so anyways, yeah, really disappointed and absolutely we'll be appealing this.
And just over the weekend now, I've been filding emails, calls,
and texts from the families, the thousands of students their
parents who are on this program, trying to get clarity

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on where they go from here.

Speaker 1 (17:49):
Representative, because the program is, it's operational, we have families
that this will impact it's up and running. It does
have effect of impacting and interrupting that educational the scholarship.
So my question is I've heard a lot of confidence
that upon appeal in the State Supreme Court that they

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believe that it will carry the day. But are there
legislative fixes and other words, is it just a matter
of if or how you get this this scholar all
this scholarship in place so parents and their kids' education
is not interrupted, or does it really run the risk
of being discontinued.

Speaker 8 (18:29):
You know, I am not an attorney, although I've been
seeing a lot of time chatting with attorneys over this weekend,
so I don't feel like I can give a full
legal answer on that. But absolutely we're considering all the options.
I would hope that our Utah Supreme Court would review
this and actually rule in favor of the fits all
Scholarship program. Of course, we're exploring all legislative options available

(18:50):
to make changes. But I will just point out though,
that this decision impacts far more than the fits all program,
because based off the reasoning that this judge used, you
pull in all sorts of education programs that have been
in operation much longer than the fits all program. Like
an example, this would be the Carson Smith Scholarship that's

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emerged in the Opportunity Scholarship. This provides an opportunity for
families with children with disabilities to have their kids attend
a private school. So, based off of this judge's logic,
you're saying that zero tax period dollars can ever go
to a non traditional public entity, which is incredibly limiting

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and I would argue damaging for the children are state
and in my opinion, this decision prioritizes the system over students,
and the system was built to serve students. So we're
looking at all options available. You know, an appeal could
take up to a year, so timeline wise, though, we
would like to. My hope would be that it's stayed right,

(19:53):
that there's our quest to stay this decision because families
are directly impacted. It goes beyond just the of the families.
The initial legislation that I ran, it was a compromise,
and so the teacher pay increase is tied to the
program being an effect. That this program's done in effect,
then also the six thousand dollars compensation increase goes way

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as well.

Speaker 2 (20:14):
Representative, I know you. You know you've been working on
this for a number of years now, and one of
the issues that always came up, Representative was while you're
taking money away from education, you can't do that. But
you worked on a plan that education would not be
hindered by this, It would just be an addition and
give parents an option. I mean, how frustrating is that
that you worked with the teachers, you worked with education,

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trying to ensure them everything would be okay. Yet they
now come back and say, ah, guess what, we think
it's unconstitutional and the judge head has agreed with us.

Speaker 8 (20:44):
To me, this just shows that the union does not
actually care about students, and quite frankly, they don't actually
care about their teachers because they are jeopardizing one of
the largest pay increases in the history of Utah. So
it's incredibly frustrating. I also think, you know, this lawsuit
demonstrates the epitome of a scarcity mentality. And we have shown,

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especially since we've passed this law and put this program
in place, that we have made significant and historic investments
in education across our state, despite the fact that enrollment
is in decline in traditional education. And so I just think, again,
this is incredibly frustrating. I chair education, and we have
been exploring a lot of innovative options to try and

(21:27):
give parents more tools to customize their kids learning experience,
and this just sets this decision to me. I don't
think it is final, and again we are pilling it.
But the logic used here I think is very limiting
in what the state can do for education.

Speaker 1 (21:43):
You know, you're a lawmaker. For me, that makes you
puts you higher on the food chain than the lawyer
they practice law. Representative, you draft and pass law, so
you're higher on the food chain. Don't let those lawyers
tell you otherwise. Let me ask you this. Can you
This might be too wonkish, but can you take general
fund money for this scholarship and not use the income
tax dollars, if that's where this judge is staring at.

Speaker 8 (22:05):
So that was so if you look at yes, and
it's a sixty page decision, right, But initially that was
the thought of, okay, do we just need to shift
it to the general fund. However, the judge goes further
and says that, oh, by the way, you can only
have public dollars go towards public education. And that is
where it is incredibly limited because then you really cannot

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And again I will point out this money goes it
was awarded to parents and they choose where to direct
those funds. The state is never and has never been
a position of directly setting that money to a private institution, right,
and other states to have done this around the country.
Having that distinction in place has been critical. But I
would agree with you except for the second part on

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public dollars can only go to public education and public entities.
That would limit us significantly, and then it wouldn't matter
whether it was income or general fund money.

Speaker 2 (22:58):
Final question, what's the next step? Presentative? Where are you
right now on this?

Speaker 8 (23:03):
So right now, again, we're working to there was no
path forward on Friday. There wasn't any specific directions, and
the program is operational and in fact there in the
middle of the application process for the next academic year.
So you know, that's a lot of that has been
thrown up in the air and people are wondering what

(23:24):
does this mean. We're hoping to get more clarity on
Wednesday as the judges excuse me, the judge, we'll meet
with the attorneys in the case and I are not
a path forward, and also we'll be working on appealing
this decision, of course, so stay tuned. Hopefully by the
end of Wednesday, we'll have more clarity on what this means,

(23:46):
specifically for the families and the immediate impacts moving forward.

Speaker 2 (23:51):
To say, Representative Candice Peruchi's joining us on our newsmaker
line talking about the school scholarship program school choice here
in the state of Utah being ruled unction by unconstitutional
I should say, by a state judge late Friday night.

Speaker 1 (24:04):
We come back, I who we had a break. When
we come back, I want to explain something that's probably
unique this country in terms of funding education public education
in the state of Utah. It is unique to our
state alone, which makes this decision even stranger when you
think about it.

Speaker 2 (24:17):
We'll talk about that coming up next right here on
the Rod and Greg Show on this Monday afternoon in
Utah's Talk Radio one O five to nine K and
R as.

Speaker 1 (24:24):
Okay, I know we're coming up to the top of
the hour I just want to share this with our
listeners very quickly. Utah as a state has one of
the most unique public education funding systems you will ever find.
I don't think there's an equivalent found in the other
forty nine states, and it is this. We have seminary
buildings of us up of a particular faith in our
high schools where you can, during your school day, as

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part of your schedule, you leave campus and you go
into a classroom. That teacher, that instructor is not paid
with public with public school money at all. That classroom
is not public school money at all. Buildingness, if we
woke up tomorrow and there were no more seminary buildings
and there were no more seminary students, and all of
those students who would leave the high school to attend
seminary now have to stay at school. You need another classroom,

(25:08):
You need classrooms, you need teachers In other words, there
is a significant portion of dollars that a faith uses
to educate students during a school day that is a
benefit to the public school system. So to this judge,
I would ask, if strictly public school money or public
money can only be used a school to fund public schools,

(25:29):
is that just a one way street, because you have
you have private money that goes in and helps fund
our schools, all of our schools, because again, it is
a relief on population student population to have those classes
and to have that part of your school day. I
don't know any other states. And when they say you
got to separate church and state or you can't do this,
we don't have that. We have been working together with
the predominant faith of our with our public schools for

(25:52):
a long time. So the idea that you would then
have a scholarship and Heaven forbid, go to instead of
going to the public school, use that scholarship to empower
you an opportunity somewhere else in another school or homeschool.
It's all in the same spirit of getting these kids
educated in different ways. And this judge apparently doesn't see.

Speaker 6 (26:11):
Any of that.

Speaker 2 (26:11):
No, well, she's in the Union's pocket. All right, more
to come our number two of the Rod and Greg
Show on this Monday Day with us.

Speaker 1 (26:23):
To hear the regime media just lament and hand ring
and clutch their pearls at the horrific things that Donald
Trump's doing, and they are so detached that as they
go through their list, Rod, I'm celebrating, I'm like, yesh, yes, yes,
and they think it's they think these are a list
of indictments and I'm going Bravo, like it's he's only

(26:46):
been in prison for three months and he's just on
a pace we've not seen before, and they think it's
terrible and that I just think that there's more of
us than them. I don't know about the swamp and
the regime and media and the leftist might I hate it,
but I think American in general is pretty happy.

Speaker 2 (27:02):
Well, here's what we're talking about. I saw two articles
over the weekend, one from the Telegraph and one from
the Guardian. Both I think UK papers right very liberal. Yes, okay,
I want you to I want to read the first
line or two from the from the Guardian story. The
headline on the Guardian story was this, why do Trump
voters have no regrets? Because the people they hate are

(27:25):
getting hurt more. I disagree with that headline. We don't
want to you know, we may dislike democrats, we may
dislike progressives, we don't want them to hurt. I don't
think we do do it. I don't want to hurt.
That's not the way, that's not the way we set
it up. But list of this, the stock market is plunging,
prices are rising, Federal workers are getting laid off, Students

(27:48):
are being snatched off the street by immigration agents. The
US is many things at the moment, but stable is
not one of them. So amid all this turmoil, how
are all the Donald Trump voters feeling as buyers were
more set in Now. We played for you last week
some audio from Harry Enton, who is an analystep and

(28:11):
I think two percent two percent of the people said
yes they have regrets one. I mean, it's no way. So,
you know, the media cannot figure this out.

Speaker 5 (28:21):
Greg.

Speaker 2 (28:22):
They think we're doing this just because we want to
get back at people who supported Donald, you know, Joe Biden.
I don't believe that's the case. I think we're thinking
about America.

Speaker 1 (28:32):
We are and where they're calling it chaos or not stable?
We were on a very stable path to oblivion. Okay,
we're on a stable path right off a cliff, okay,
with the elites being well protected from whatever calamity was coming.
But for the rest of US Americans, and we were
not that trajectory. Change they think is a change is unstable.

(28:53):
We think it's actually getting us back to a place
where the United States will America will be great again.
It will be a place that manift things that it's
self sustaining. It's a it's you know. And you can
bring in ten million people and make every state of
border state deporting them so that we're not every state
of border state is not chaos to us. It's actually

(29:13):
trying to find that assemblance of normalcy that we had
prior to this last administration.

Speaker 2 (29:17):
Now, another story, this one this time in the Telegraph
did the same thing, right, talking about Trump's faithful right.
It went to McDowell County in West Virginia. McDowell County
is probably the poorest county in all the country. Yes,
average median income there is under thirty thousand dollars a year. Okay,
And they asked about Donald Trump. They all voted for Trump.

(29:38):
He carried the county by I think eighty percent. Back
in the election, they asked him about higher prices and
tariffs and everything else, and they said, well, will you
know you can't hurt us anymore. We're already poor, but
we understand what he's trying to do, so we support him.
Do you regret voting for him? Absolutely not. The media
just cannot They don't understand the loyalty that people have

(30:02):
to Donald Trump and what he's trying to do for
the American For the American people, well.

Speaker 1 (30:06):
Look, if you're retiring in the next week or so,
then then the doll the stock market is a concern.
But after that, eighty eight percent of those stocks are
owned by the elite or by large hedge funds, you
name it is. It is not the bell weather for
the everyday American people. And when they say prices are
going up, eggs are coming down, although not fast enough.

(30:27):
Here in Utah. We're a little bit behind the curve
on how fast eggs are coming down nationally. But we're
seeing prices come down. We're not seeing the sky falling
like the Democrats have said. Wouldn't it be nice for
them to have paid half the amount of attention to
prices and things when Biden was in charge, as they
cry and go crazy about, while Trump's in charge trying
to realign these trade agreements, which is going to take

(30:49):
more than a calendar like a day.

Speaker 2 (30:50):
Yeah, well they want to have done in a day. Now.
I love this. Here's CNN's Abbie Phillips. Okay, she rattled
off a long list of fights that Donald Trump has
taken on in just ninety days, a little bit more
than ninety days in office. I want you to listen
to this long list of fights the president has launched
and see if you disagree with any of them.

Speaker 7 (31:09):
The president who promised a fight and he's delivering multiple
main card matchups in the first ninety days in office.
The Trump White House has gone toe to toe with
DEI tariffs law firms. He is tearing through the Department
of Education, and everything from early start programs to the
IVY leagues judges in the court system are fueling his

(31:29):
ire Greenland, Canada, the Panama Canal, South Africa, and the
United Nations. The media red dye number three, Fluoride, USAID,
the Kennedy Center, former officials from the Biden administration, officials
from his own first term, auto pen military base names, pennies, pronouns,
FEMA flags, water pressure, national parks, paper straws, research programs, vaccines,

(31:55):
President Zelensky, US Agency Buildings, Governor Hockel, FED Chairman Jerome Powell,
the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau, food Safety Inspections.

Speaker 9 (32:06):
That's just to.

Speaker 5 (32:06):
Name a few.

Speaker 2 (32:07):
And can I say, Greg on top of that, that
is one hell of a list. I mean, everybody out there.
And we'll play that again for you if you just
want to listen to it, maybe a little bit later
on this hour as we talk about this, but that
how many did you? Did you?

Speaker 6 (32:21):
Six?

Speaker 1 (32:22):
Yes, zero, no. I was going to check off the
ones I didn't like next to the ones I do
like I'm at five, ten, fifteen, twenty, thirty, thirty, six,
thirty six things she rottled off or all yes is
on my on my card too, on my scorecard, those
are all wins, Okay, I have zero on the l's
the loss.

Speaker 2 (32:40):
See and the media has to list They say, look
what he's done. He's fighting with everybody. I think that's
what we wanted him to do. Well, everybody transform this gum.
The attack is really against progressives and the Deep States.
What it's against Yeah, and that's not everybody. Everybody's on
our side. We're on the thirty six scorecard of yes,

(33:01):
thank you. It's about time. She and the rest of them,
they're on the other side of that. And that's that's
the very swamp. If we ever thought that that whole
saying we're going to rain the swamp is ever gonna happen.
It's that clip you heard right there is your tell
that it's that we're doing something that were over the target,
because that's those are the very institutions and very things
that have really detached us, the everyday people, from our government,

(33:24):
or our country, or our opportunity. Yes, and she describes
it as a fight. I don't consider it a fight.
I consider it change. And there is a difference between
exactly she's bringing it. You know, he is bringing about change.
They see it as a fight. The American people say,
this is the change we wanted. So don't call it
a fight. Don't call it a fight, call it change.

(33:45):
That's what we want in government. Is he a bull
in a china shop? Damn straight.

Speaker 1 (33:49):
I don't know how you attack any other way.

Speaker 2 (33:54):
Shake it up there?

Speaker 1 (33:55):
Did we have all the buyer's remorris regret I voted
for Biden's stories the day do I mean I have
to go google that and see about all those stories
of people wishing they didn't vote for that guy. Oh
they didn't. They didn't cover that, did they? No, all right,
they're protecting Joe, just trying to keep just trying to say,
you know.

Speaker 2 (34:15):
We want to open up the phones to you when
you heard that list, when you see these stories about
why do Trump voters have no regrets? Why don't you
eight eight eight five seven o eight zero one zero
eight eight eight five seven o eight zero one zero
on your cell phone dial pound two fifty and say, hey, Rod,
we'll get to your calls and comments coming up here
on the rod In great show. Let's see he secured
the border. He's working on making the American economy stronger. Yes,

(34:39):
the tariffs is going to take some time. He is
challenging almost every every norm out there. He's saying it's
time to make some changes. In the media can't figure
out Greg why the American people aren't saying, darn, I
wish I wouldn't have voted for that guy.

Speaker 1 (34:53):
Yeah, it's almost like you know, you know, we know
that he won to make America great again. We knew
that there had to be big changes. And they're saying,
you know, he's changing things.

Speaker 2 (35:02):
Did you know?

Speaker 1 (35:03):
Did you? I just he is, He's changed.

Speaker 2 (35:06):
I didn't know that.

Speaker 1 (35:06):
Why are you still for him?

Speaker 2 (35:08):
Wow?

Speaker 1 (35:08):
Well, because if you listened during the campaign, we didn't
want more of what we were getting. We wanted we
want to change it. We need Washington to not, you know,
drive us off a cliff and the.

Speaker 2 (35:19):
Roll our lives all right, your calls eight eight eight
five seven o eight zero one zero. We want to
know why you don't have any regrets in your vote
for Donald Trump as of now? Eight eight eight five
seven oh eight zero one zero. Let's go to the phones.
We begin in South Jordan tonight with Ron on the
Rod and Greg Show. How are you Ron? Thanks for joining.

Speaker 5 (35:35):
Us, Thanks Rod and Greg. A couple of quick things.
My half my family is from another country in Central America,
and I have and they're prominent. They do work for
the Agriculture Department and everything. And this will blow your mind.
About three and a half years ago, I just got
back from there. But about three and a half years
ago I was in the country and one of them

(35:56):
said he went to the American embassy with another prominent
business person, and everybody at the US embassy was of
a nationality that there's none of them in that country,
every single one, and every single one of them was
of a certain sexual persuasion. And I'm going, what, I said, what,

(36:19):
but I believe this person, I didn't understand it. Then
I find out what USAID's been doing. Ye, and I'm going, oh,
my gosh. And then also the new president in this country.
I wanted to do a nonprofit and they said, don't
wait for the next president because the new president, this candidate,
nobody knew who he was. He just popped up George Solace.

(36:42):
Money becomes the president totally corrupt, and he says, this
family member has some airplane business that has to do
with planes. He says, there's a hole, you know, in
the road, and it's a two thousand dollars job. They
pass one hundred and fifty thousand dollars and they, you know,
just steal the money. Look what's been happening in our country.

(37:05):
And so if you have any family from other countries
around the world's if Harris.

Speaker 6 (37:10):
Were won, o, holy smoke.

Speaker 5 (37:13):
There was so much corruption and the other countries will
tell you. There's an African lady who is an ambassador
to her country. I saw it on YouTube. She was
so grateful that USAID was closed because they were instilling
instability in their countries.

Speaker 2 (37:28):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, Ron, thank you very much for sharing
that story right in a story front.

Speaker 1 (37:32):
Row seed and perspective that Ron's provided. And I'm telling
you that while I didn't know that, those are the
kind of the nightmare scenarios that have been shared broadly
about USAID, how they're undermining countries and what those countries
are trying, those government leaders are trying to do. And
then you hear about this embassy that is pushing or
promoting an agenda and a social agenda that wouldn't reflect

(37:54):
an American town in this country. If you, if you
were paid to find it, you'd never find it. That's
that's pretty that's pretty shocking. I think that that if
you talk about the leftists, if you talk about whether
you want to call them communists, have called whatever you
want to call them, I the elitist, the social engineers,
the people too smart for you. They know everything, you
know nothing. They think that everyone should love government's heavy

(38:17):
hand because it's not heavy, it's actually guiding. It's going
to take care of you because you're not really ready
to do it yourself. You don't want to make decisions
for yourself. We're going to do it for you. We're
going to give you the security. We're going to do
all that. And they can't figure out why everyone's just
not like sheeple following along.

Speaker 2 (38:31):
Why don't you want this? You'll be taking care of you. You
don't have to worry about anything.

Speaker 1 (38:36):
Anything, you know, from cradle to grave, we're going to
take care of it all. We're because we're that benevolent,
we're that uh, we just we're gonna we're that smart.
We're smarter than you. We're going to take care of you.
And we're going, no, we don't. We don't see government
and a government that's that involved in our lives. We
actually see that as oppression. Thank you. And they don't
get it, they don't they anyway.

Speaker 2 (38:58):
He mentioned real fast, and then we'll get back to
our calls. He mentioned Kamala Harris, did you see the
story over the weekend about Lebron James. Lebron James and
his production company were given fifty thousand dollars by the
Kamala Harris campaign two days before he endorsed her. Oh okay,

(39:21):
and another actress, Jennifer Garner okay. She was also given
fifty thousand dollars to her production company two days before
she endorsed Kamala Harris. Talk about buying it.

Speaker 1 (39:32):
With Oprah, They did it with all these others, and
now you're with them. Yeah, I thought you were gonna say. I.
I saw John Stockton Lebron's stat of how many how
many years they've been They've played thirteen season, how many
games each one of them played in Stockton's beating them
in all oh category?

Speaker 2 (39:45):
That wasn't surprised me. All right, let's go back to
the phones. Eight eight eight five seven eight zero one
zero triple eight five seven o eight zero one zero.
Let's hear from Casey tonight in West Valley. Casey, how
are you welcome to the Rod and Greg Show?

Speaker 5 (39:57):
Doing well?

Speaker 3 (39:58):
Thanks for having me, Rod and Greg. I do not
have buyer's remorse when it comes to Donald Trump at all,
because when you find mold in a wall at your house,
you don't stop it, just taking care of that one
little mold spot. And sometimes when you dig into it,
you're going to find a lot more destruction, a lot
more damage that needs to be ripped out and fixed.

(40:20):
And that's how I equate what Donald Trump is doing
or what he's doing to our government. I also work
for a local Utah based chemical manufacturer, and as far
as the tariffs go, we have one product. We make
over two thousand products here in the state. We have
one product that has received a tariff, and we're getting

(40:41):
a lot more local companies converting to us, keeping money
circulating through our local economy because we were actually able
to drop prices this year.

Speaker 1 (40:50):
Yay, Casey. I love this call. Thank you for telling us,
you know. And he's so right, because if you find
that mold, yeah, you don't just stop there. You know,
there can be something bigger, something more pervasive, that's going
on behind those walls, and you got to go find it.
You got to work it out. It's a great analogy,
and I love that on whatever whatever they're making, whatever

(41:11):
they're doing, these tariffs. One thing, it's not killing them
like the media would have you believe. But it also
inspires local you know, consumers as well as those that
are suppliers. They're going to the American made stuff.

Speaker 2 (41:23):
Richard is Great Falls, Montana tonight listening to the Rod
and Greg Joe. Richard, how are you, Thanks so much
for listening and joining us. What are your thoughts on this?

Speaker 10 (41:30):
Richard, Well, I got to agree the tariffs are pretty good.
You know, the country is going to go back the
way it was because America. You know, everybody got to
have a dream. You got to have a dream the
right way when you come over here, you got to
do it the right way. And these tariffs are going
to be pretty good for now, you know, on what
the economy is going to look like in the future.
And then I think Donald Trump's a good president as

(41:51):
well too, because everybody that does crime in other countries,
they don't want to take care of their what business
they got for those times they want to Eric could
take care of him because they want to come over here.

Speaker 8 (42:02):
You know.

Speaker 1 (42:02):
Yeah, you're right, Richard And Richard sure, you know he's
listening on the iHeart Radio app. That's how we get
Great Falls Montana. So thanks for listening on the app,
thanks for streaming the show. And he's exactly right. I mean,
don't you think there's a bit of a chilling effect
going on right now. When you see that Al Salvador
in prison there, and you know that's where if you're
committing crimes, you're a gang member, you're going right there.

Speaker 2 (42:24):
You're heating there.

Speaker 6 (42:24):
Man.

Speaker 1 (42:25):
I think it's I think it's about time.

Speaker 2 (42:27):
All right, more of your calls coming up. Do you
have any regrets whatsoever about voting for Donald Trump? And
we'll share with you the results of a new poll
on how Utahon's feel about the President that's coming up
on the Rodden Greg Show in Utah's talk radio, what
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Speaker 1 (42:43):
I was yes on every single one of them. I'm like,
you agree with I said yay thirty six straight time
yes when she rowed them off, and that was her
indictment of this man. Well, if he can, you believe
he's doing it?

Speaker 2 (42:53):
If she wouldn't have read him so fast we put it,
we would have put applause behind each one of them.

Speaker 1 (42:57):
I know, we can't even put special effects behind it
because it's like a gatling gun of accomplishments in draining
the swamp.

Speaker 2 (43:03):
Yeah. Well, what do Utah voters say about Donald Trump's
job performance? The dez red News did a survey. Yeah,
is the desrat News. Yeah, Desert Left News, but they
did it with a Ankley Institute of Politics. Here's what
they found. Despite being a red state. You know, I'm
kind of getting sick and tired of being called a
red state because I don't know we're as red as
people think we are.

Speaker 1 (43:22):
I think me. Look, I think our audience is a
reflection of this state. I think that I could, I
could elaborate and explain why. I think it's a reflection
of the state. But sometimes I think we have elected
officials who might not reflect the true values because of
and I would argue that sometimes those campaigns sound a
lot more conservative than what the product is when you
get them elected.

Speaker 2 (43:43):
That could be well. Despite that, Utah is divided. According
to this survey on Donald Trump's performance a slight majority.
Fifty four percent say they somewhat or strongly approve of
what Donald Trump has done so far, forty two percent disapprove,
five percent say they do not know. Yeah, yeah, really,

(44:04):
would you think the numbers higher?

Speaker 1 (44:07):
And it is higher. And I'll tell you why. Because
we we elect our especially statewide elections. We elect our
statewide elected officials in our primaries. There's not a Democrat.
That's going to so when you take a poll like
that where the Democrats are going to be like ninety
percent against, and that that statewide poll of likely voters,
you're talking about people's opinions that they're not even at
picking who the next governor, US Senator or attorney general

(44:32):
you name. It is even going to be so with
those who decide who our state elected officials are. That
is a much higher approval number than that that poll
right there.

Speaker 2 (44:40):
With Sam Yeah, well within his own party, of course,
he's very very popular. Of course, Yeah, I think there
what is eight and ten uh self identified you to
our Republicans vastly approved of the press.

Speaker 1 (44:51):
Someone who's not a Republican who loses a statewide race
in Utah November. So that's the that's the poll that counts.
Is the is the is the are the Republican and
the independence that identify as Republican devision in the primary.

Speaker 2 (45:03):
They're concerned about the tariffs, m I think we have
to take a wait and see attitude on that. I
understand what he's trying to do. It's risky, but I
understand what he's trying to do.

Speaker 1 (45:13):
Yeah, it's risk give it to nothing.

Speaker 2 (45:15):
Yeah, get yeah, I'm with you. Give it time to
kind of pan out. Let them the negotiations are going
on now. I would love to see over the next
couple of weeks if we can maybe an announcement on
a deal with one of these big trading partners that
we have. Yes, And I think that would turn things around.
And I think it's coming, I really do. I I
don't think it's a matter of if, it's just when.
And so let the man cook. Just let him do

(45:37):
his job, give him, give him a runway, let him
do it.

Speaker 1 (45:39):
You don't you don't. You don't pivot that hard. You
don't realign your global partnerships global around the world quickly.
It's going to take a little bit of time. But
he's even given himself a ninety day you know, timeline
to do it. And so let them. Let's just everybody
just takes time.

Speaker 2 (45:55):
It takes time.

Speaker 1 (45:56):
They think we are going to turn it all around?
Did they think it?

Speaker 6 (45:59):
Well?

Speaker 2 (45:59):
They wanted to have Well, the media wants it to happen,
doesn't want it happen. So if it doesn't happen right away,
the media safety didn't happen.

Speaker 1 (46:06):
And when it does happen, they're going to tell us
it didn't happen, and they will. They will never concede
a thing. Well, we got eight trillion dollars in a
committed investment of jobs and manufacturing in this country over
the next four years. You'll be hard pressed to find
anyone in that regime media that'll point that out. And
that's a big deal, you know what I mean?

Speaker 2 (46:23):
And I really think greg too much is made of
the stock market every day. It really is. The stock
market does not reflect, in my opinion, what the American
people are thinking. It doesn't have nervous investors, you know,
and very few you know we what is it? The
number is about sixty two percent of us have stock
some sort of investment in the stock market, But what

(46:45):
is it? Eighty percent handle about ninety five percent of
the investment.

Speaker 1 (46:51):
And are five percent of those everyday Americans that have
any investment in the stock market is it is mostly
usually a retirement fun So you have the asset of
some amount of time, well, of which nobody wants to
give this president. I mean, these day traders that their
time horizon is the next twenty minutes, So give him,
give him the time to get this ride, because on

(47:12):
the long view, you can't keep printing money the way
that this government was printing money. You can't see inflation
do what it was doing. You can't see interest rates
staying as sky high as they were. Let this guy
do what he's committed to do. Give him the time
to do it. I mean again, I think he's moving
faster than we've ever seen a present moving a first
hundred day. So everybody's chill out.

Speaker 2 (47:31):
Understand this globalism started after World War One, yep, and
it's taken this long to build it up. You can't
turn it around. It's like turning it around a battleship
and a bathtub. It takes a little time to be
able to do that.

Speaker 1 (47:42):
And we are the consumer of everybody's stuff. We have
to start making some stuff our old star country.

Speaker 2 (47:47):
All right, you're called eight eight eight five seven o
eight zero one zero triple eight five seven o eight
zero one zero on your cell phone. Give us a
call eighty eight eight five seven o eight zero one zero,
or all you do is have to dial pound two
fifteen and say, hey, Rod.

Speaker 11 (48:00):
Let's go to our Should we go to our Yeah,
let's go to our our Listeners, we're talking about regrets
voting for Donald Trump, if you have any if you're
a Trump supporter, We go to Midvale and hear from
James tonight here on the Rod on Greg Show.

Speaker 2 (48:11):
Hi James, good evening.

Speaker 8 (48:16):
Yeah.

Speaker 12 (48:16):
I have a regret because one of the things that
was on the campaign trailer is We're going to cut
off all this for and aid, and yet right out
of the gate he didn't cut it all off. He
gave exceptions, and I take a sick exception to that.
It doesn't matter who they are, cut it all off.

Speaker 1 (48:34):
James, you make a good point. I actually don't know
if I have a reasonable retort to that. I think
I think I have been more bullish on whether it's
the tariffs or the or the AID. I agree with you, James,
Thanks for the call. Let me ask you. I mean,
I have a regret about the Trump administration so far,
I'm not and I'm not, as you can tell on

(48:55):
the show. I'm not beside myself upset. But I would
like to see uh, Pam Bondy. I'd like to see
some action in terms of some of the illegality we
saw of government players sending you cannot send that, Stacy
Abrams billions whatever the amount of money she got put
into that account in December before Biden left with one

(49:15):
hundred dollars balance in there. There's something wrong. There's something
that smells highly illegal with the way they were running
money through to private enterprise, outside of government oversight, outside
of government anything. I would like to see the Attorney
General a little aggressive on the things that Doge is
finding that I think goes beyond mismanagement, goes beyond poorly

(49:38):
accounted for. I think it goes to fraud and graft,
and I think those things ought to be tried, and
I would like to see some of that which we
haven't seen yet. That's let me have being picky, but well,
I would like to see that.

Speaker 2 (49:49):
Let me ask you that is that revenge and is
that revenge going to get us anywhere?

Speaker 1 (49:53):
No?

Speaker 2 (49:53):
I don't find it a revenge. That's that question.

Speaker 1 (49:56):
I think that that certainly if Republicans had done this,
I think some in the swamp have. But if you had,
if you had a Democrat administration that was finding this
and it looked like the beneficiary where the Republicans, I
think you would see, much like you saw against Trump
and others, you'd see them come after him pretty hard.
I'm not saying two wrongs make it right. I'm saying,
stop weaponizing our government, stop sending money outside of the

(50:19):
purview of Congress, stop the fraud and graft of our
public dollars. And I would I and I hold that
same standard, whether you're a Republican Democrat, whether it was
whoever's receiving that money without regard to their party, they
should be there should be a consequence for it.

Speaker 2 (50:34):
But going after them, aren't you again weaponizing the government?
I mean, I agree with you, you know, I'd go
after some of these people. Anything done.

Speaker 1 (50:44):
I think government has been weaponized if if there is
a standard and we think it's been met, that crimes
of fraud of a I don't know, a graft or
whatever it is has happened, and we're casting a blind
eye for purposes of optics, that to me is politicizing
it not. I think the rule a lot of stick.
We ought to be able to go after those that

(51:05):
have committed crimes. And I and I it just when
you look at how much money they've been printing and
sending the NGOs and USAI. Something's wrong here and something
I think should be actionable because What you want to
have happened is it has a chilling effect that they
stop doing it. I don't want just the ones that
got caught to stop. I'd like the whole industry to

(51:25):
go to be stopped.

Speaker 2 (51:27):
What I would like to see happened, Greg is go
through every one of those NGOs and wipe them out
if they're not necessary, get rid of them for the
Democratic Party.

Speaker 1 (51:36):
And then they say, oh, you're going to stop research.
You're going to stop you know, clean water for kids
in Africa. They just find some extreme example. I think
you cut all that out and you charge people if
they've committed a crime stealing money.

Speaker 2 (51:50):
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the Rod and Greg Show right here on Utah's Talk
Radio one all five nine d stay with us on
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(52:13):
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Speaker 1 (52:17):
S and your number two is the podcast. Yeah, just
in case you missed a part of the show, YEP,
you can always revisit it.

Speaker 2 (52:23):
Hey, I got a quick idea for you? What are
you ready for this?

Speaker 1 (52:26):
Ready?

Speaker 2 (52:27):
How much money you got a little bit, a little bit?
Let's go buy a town?

Speaker 1 (52:33):
Well, nine, man, I'm not Daddy Warbucks sitting over here.

Speaker 2 (52:37):
There is an entire town just outside of a Yellowstone, Okay,
that is up for sale. How much let's see two
point six million? Okay, I'm gonna get it.

Speaker 1 (52:47):
I'm gonna give you an io you okay, and I'm
going to defer payments for a couple of years, and
let's go buy it.

Speaker 2 (52:54):
Yeah, the town of Prey in the heart of Paradise Valley?
Isn't that where you? Hello Stone was set in the
Paradise Valley.

Speaker 1 (53:02):
I don't know, but I have a better question. Is
it Prey p R E y or p R A
y ky Okay? Because they mean very different.

Speaker 2 (53:09):
Yeah, very different things, that's true.

Speaker 1 (53:11):
One is commuting with the man upstairs. The other is
you are you are about you are going to be
you know, you're being hunted. It's very different.

Speaker 2 (53:18):
It's up for sale.

Speaker 1 (53:20):
I mean, what's the population of that time?

Speaker 2 (53:22):
Not very many?

Speaker 1 (53:24):
What's their economy?

Speaker 2 (53:25):
Is it very much? But that's towns for sale?

Speaker 6 (53:29):
How you?

Speaker 2 (53:30):
I don't know, you just.

Speaker 1 (53:31):
Why is that government land?

Speaker 2 (53:33):
Just why it give them the check for two point
six million? And who gets that money? The residents? I
wonder they divide it up. I don't know, just an idea,
speaking of a weird, weird idea. The State Department has
now shut down in misinformation censorship agency. Marco Ruby has
gotten in there and looked at everything the State Department

(53:54):
has done.

Speaker 1 (53:55):
The New York Times has been a close is that
what you're saying? Or the Washington Post?

Speaker 2 (54:00):
It probably be the Washington Post. Yes, State Department, but
they've dug up. They basically have shut down this agency
and it's pretty amazing.

Speaker 1 (54:08):
That's good.

Speaker 2 (54:09):
Yeah, So what it was it called? It was called
now you're asking me, it was called the Global Engagement Center.
Just sounds global engagement. It just sounds fake. Of course,
thank you Secretary Rubio for doing that well. Joining us
on our Newsmaker Line to talk more about that and
what is going on as Luke Rosiac, investigative reporter with

(54:30):
the Daily Wire. Luke, always great to have you on
the show. All Right, it is called the Global Engagement
Center GEC, with several other names attached to it. Exactly
what is it and what do they do. Sure.

Speaker 13 (54:42):
So in twenty eleven, the State Department created something called
the Center for Strategic counter Terrorism Communications.

Speaker 2 (54:49):
It was supposed to US.

Speaker 13 (54:51):
Government communications aimed at countering foreign terrorists propaganda, particularly from
groups like ISIS and al Qaeda. So after twenty sixteen
it shifted to a pretty different mission. That's when people
started saying the election was determined through foreign propaganda from Russia,

(55:11):
and so disinformation was actually part of this anti terrorism campaign.
And so they started basically taking this State Department propaganda
outfit and turning it against Americans.

Speaker 1 (55:23):
So turning against Americans. So I think what the critical
detail there is that this became a domestic operation. FBI
agents would contact Twitter during the election saying that they
represented or they came from this agency.

Speaker 6 (55:36):
Here.

Speaker 1 (55:37):
The problem I'm seeing as the Trump administration's rolling out
is it looks like the deep state or whatever we're
calling it nowadays. They have put firewalls up everywhere. Can
you actually kill this beast or has it run to
some other corner or crevice and is hiding and is
still alive? And well, do we think that the Secretary
of Rubio has actually brought this thing to an end?

Speaker 13 (56:00):
Yeah, that's a great question, because after they did this
during the first Trump administration, obviously without his knowledge and
against his will, in last year, Congress killed it because
of the incredible scandals that it was part of. And
so what the Joe Biden administration did is exactly what
you indicated. They kept the same employees and put them

(56:21):
in a new unit with a different name that was
basically doing the same thing. And so what Secretary of
State Rubio did this week is initiate a layoff of
fifty people, so these employees will be gone.

Speaker 2 (56:32):
They won't be able to just keep doing the same
thing under a different name. What kind of tools did
they use to get out this disinformation? What did they
do exactly, Luke.

Speaker 13 (56:42):
Well, they set up an office in Silicon Valley so
they could contact the Twitter, Facebook, et cetera. And they
were used to operating on foreign soil, so they didn't
really have any concern about the First Amendment at all.
The other thing they did is subsidize for profit and
not nonprofit fact checkers and media credibility raiders. Who were the

(57:04):
people who were going around saying, you know, if you
say that the coronavirus might have leaked from a lab
that's a conspiracy theory and it needs to be deleted
from the Internet, and so they would give grants. They
gave grants to a group called the the Global Disinformation Index,
which said that the New York Post and the Daily
Wire and the Federalist and Reason magazine were all risky

(57:27):
to advertise on because they're disinformation. The New York Post is,
of course, one of the oldest newspapers in America, has
published the story about the Hunter Biden laptop, which was
true but which was censored, and then NewsGuard is basically
the same thing. What these groups do is generate lists
that advertisers use to say, well, we shouldn't advertise on

(57:48):
Breitbart because it's risky for our brand. And what they
really mean is like, you know, hey, if you're selling
say you're selling a you know, a widget, they say, oh,
you got a nice widget factory here.

Speaker 2 (57:59):
It would be a shame if than happened to it.

Speaker 13 (58:00):
You know, if you advertised on Tucker Crawlson's show and
then the left boycotted all of your products. And so
basically the goal, and some of these groups state that
goal explicitly. The goal is to bankrupt conservative media by
making sure that just random advertisers don't run ads against
that content. And so that's bad enough. But where it

(58:21):
got really bad is the State Department funding these groups,
and that's obviously a violation of the First Amendment. So
the DAILI wire and the federalists actually sued the State
Department saying they were using these fact checkers and there's
media credibility raiders and you know that are supposed to
be looking at for the brand integrity that they were
just basically an adjunct of the federal government in a

(58:44):
way that obscenely violated the First Amendment.

Speaker 1 (58:47):
Tell me with this hydra as I like to think
of it, with us multiple heads and it's all that
it's doing. Any evidence that, while its head's being chopped
off over there by Secretary of State Rubio, that it's
influencing content censoring anywhere in government. Now, do you see
any any, any, any evidence that they're still actively involved.

Speaker 13 (59:12):
Well, you know, this all happened this week, so it's
too new to see what's going on. But I think
the important thing is that the State Department should never
be operating domestically. That's illegal. Yes, and they did that
quite a bit during the Biden administration. For example, in Germany,
they have obviously no First Amendment, they have incredible suppression
of speech there, and so the State Department paid for

(59:33):
a conference if where German experts would lecture American teachers
about how to train their students to identify misinformation and
basically not reconservative media. And so they're technically the money
is going abroad, but it's a loophole. They're actually having
having German propagandists lecture Americans instead of the reverse. And

(59:57):
so one of the things that I think Rubio is
really it feels as important, is that an American value
is free speech. The State Department is supposed to be
broadcast into foreign countries what we stand for, and they
need to see that one of the American values is
free speech.

Speaker 2 (01:00:11):
Look, was this a Doge find or is this something
that Ruby stumbled on and his staff stumbled on as
they went through the entire State Department? Was this a
Doge find or a Rubio find?

Speaker 13 (01:00:21):
It's really a conservative media find. The Washington Examiner did
a great story a couple of years ago that kind
of lit lid off the fact that these ad buying
companies were being given these lists that said, you shouldn't
advertise with the Washington Examiner. They're an extreme right wing
rag and the Washington Examiner is actually pretty buttoned down.

(01:00:42):
It's not crazy. It doesn't print fake news. And so
they obtained some of these lists and basically traced it
back through you know, there's really only six ad buying
firms in the country, so when you at your if
you're a company that wants to run ads, you go
through these brokers, and these NGOs, some of which were
government funded, had basically infiltrated these as brokers to where
they were just blackballing and excluding this mystery list of

(01:01:05):
conservative news outlets. And so yeah, that's been going on
for a long time. Some people make money doing that,
basically rating all the media outlets. And it's pretty similar
to what we've seen with the fact checking, where you know,
some the whole thing obviously just doesn't make sense that
you could have some nonprofit or for profit company that
hires a dozen twenty five year olds and they'll be

(01:01:27):
able to determine the accuracy of breaking news as it develops,
because you can't be an expert in everything. And if
the New York Post gets a secret batch of documents,
you can't say whether that's real or not because you
haven't obtained them. So I think people are starting to
realize it's just not possible to, you know, make a
judgment about what's true or what's not. And obviously it's

(01:01:48):
not certainly not the government's role to do that.

Speaker 2 (01:01:50):
Luke Rozi are joining us on our Newsmaker line. I
tell you what, Greg, you know, a lot of people
are saying regrets, and do your regret voting for Donald Trump?
The more you listen to what has gone on in
this government for I don't know how long. This is
an enormous task that he is undertaken. It really is,
and I mean, I'm glad he's got some people. I

(01:02:12):
think most of the people on his team right now
are in there supporting him. Marco Rubio, Pete Hegseth, Pam Bondy.
You know, we wish she'd do a little bit more
right now, but this is an enormous task to transform
this government and really give it back to main Street.
And that's what he's trying to do.

Speaker 1 (01:02:29):
And I do believe that I have probably changed my worldview,
not changed, but I've understood it, and I think things
are changing under our feet over the last ten, fifteen
years or longer, that maybe I wasn't tracking as closely,
that I'm taking better inventory thanks to the leadership of
a candidate and President Trump, that really I feel like

(01:02:52):
things have changed, or that I'm seeing it more clearly now,
and I think that has happened for a lot of people.
I don't think I'm alone in that. I think a
lot of people. And that's why I think that the
Republicans really are seeing themselves as a party of the
everyday perst people or main street because the elitists are
all migrating just to themselves, which is a smaller minority

(01:03:13):
of this country, albeit powerful and rich. But they're just
not getting it. They are not there their empathy level,
they're understanding of everyday people. It doesn't exist. And that's
why there's I think such there's a disconnect, but it's
getting worse because they they look at the things we
celebrate and go, that's the worst thing I've ever heard.

Speaker 2 (01:03:31):
All I'm thinking about right now. Congress, get your act
together and get going on this tax plan.

Speaker 1 (01:03:36):
The Congress got to do. The House represents work nine
days in April, the Senate work ten days in April.
They'd had nine and ten days for the month of April,
and they recess in August for the rest of the
you know, for till when till the fall. So I'm
just telling you that that they got away, they got.

Speaker 2 (01:03:54):
To go better get going? All right? More coming up
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Speaker 1 (01:04:01):
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Speaker 2 (01:04:06):
You know what's so funny right now? Greg, is you
see what's going on with Donald Trump and now Joe Biden.
Did you see the Democrats They are asking Joe to.

Speaker 1 (01:04:13):
Stay away, Well they should, I don't even know.

Speaker 2 (01:04:15):
Well, first of all, he's not getting three hundred thousand
dollars for a speech, gig.

Speaker 1 (01:04:18):
I guess no. I think I think that's why we're interested.
He convinced them to let him give a speech so
he could show people what they're missing out on, and
then yeah, we're not missing that. Actually he did.

Speaker 2 (01:04:27):
Show people what they're missing out on, and people are
fine with that. They're apparently he's charging three hundred thousand
dollars for a speaking engagement. No one is taking up more.

Speaker 1 (01:04:37):
Yeah, I was just about to say one hundred percent
of nothing's nothing, so he can he can attach any
price tag he wants to that if no one's no
one's buying, then he's not getting three hundred thousand.

Speaker 2 (01:04:46):
First, Well, here's what's funny. You have all these journalists
who are now writing these books. You know you've got
there are a couple more coming out or than I.
But it's funny. I'm not I'm not sure if they're
trying to play both sides of the fence, if they're
trying to tell the Trump people that, you know, we
knew what was going on. Yeah, we made a mistake
and we probably should have I'm sure. But then you

(01:05:07):
have Chuck Todd, I know, for former host to Beat
the Press, good Old Rush used to call him f
Chuck Todd yep, But he was on a podcast over
the weekend and he basically said that you know, the
media in fact did make mistakes and tried to smother

(01:05:27):
Donald Trump was to this.

Speaker 9 (01:05:29):
You know, I think the biggest mistake and I did
not follow the pipe piper on this one, which was
this idea that would deplatform everybody post January sixth. He's
a democracy. This is a first Amendment. And I you know,
all of a sudden, now you've got law firms or
what's going on and all this stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:05:43):
It's like, look, that was a bad moment.

Speaker 9 (01:05:46):
That doesn't mean Look I understand the passion of that moment,
but my god, the whole point of the Constitution is
to protect minority rights, not majority rights.

Speaker 1 (01:05:54):
The whole damn thing.

Speaker 9 (01:05:56):
Was written to protect minority rights. And so yeah, you
may not like that speech, but speech of speech. And
the decision to deep platform bit mainstream media in the ass.
Why okay, Donald Trump started his own information ecosystem.

Speaker 2 (01:06:10):
How do you like them apples? Now? Yeah, how do
you like them apples?

Speaker 5 (01:06:13):
Now?

Speaker 2 (01:06:13):
Chuck, Well, you were one of those who was trying
to deep platform Donald Trump, and just saying it was
a mistake doesn't cut it. Someone's got to step up
and say we need to change our way, and they won't.

Speaker 1 (01:06:24):
They guys like him and Jake Tapper that act like
they're just like they're they're you know, they were never
for any of this, and you know now they're here
to inform and lecture everybody for what they did. These
guys were in it up to their ears up to
their eyeballs. They were as bad as any anybody in
the regime media. I I don't see any daylight between
any of these jokers and Chuck Todd or Jake Tapper,

(01:06:46):
and both those guys are acting like they're the Holy
rollers that didn't play along with any of this. Yeah
you did. I mean you know we could hear you. Okay,
we know we could see you. You weren't. You don't
hide trick anyone where you were on all this, and
you were absolutely in the camp of Biden the whole time.

Speaker 2 (01:07:05):
Yeah, And I go back, and I've said this before Greg,
on these books that are being written. First of all,
they lied to us about Joe Biden's condition, or they
didn't tell us, so now they write a book about it,
and we're supposed to believe everything they're right.

Speaker 1 (01:07:21):
Well, I still don't know how Joe Scarborough can ever
get over He's a sharper to attack and if you
don't like it, screw whatever he says. I've never known
him to be stronger. I've never know him to be sharper.
I've never known him to be more on his game.
I know you don't want to hear that, but he's
the greatest. He goes out of his way to say
that he's not as good, he's not as sharp, he's sharper,
he is better. That's what he said weeks before. They said,

(01:07:45):
you're drooling on yourself. We can't have you as a candidate.
There's no way you can win, there's no pathway. So
how Joe Scarborough can even be seen on television with
any credibility, I don't know how he got it in
the first place, but how he has it now after
making drawing that bright line, this is the line in
the sand, This is President Biden? Is this good now?

(01:08:06):
Actually he's not. And everybody on your side of the
camp knows that. And you still have a job. Don't understand.

Speaker 2 (01:08:13):
Well the other the other thing we mentioned that Biden
is offering three hundred thousand dollars for a speaking engagement.
Nobody's taking you that one.

Speaker 1 (01:08:20):
If he offered like you just said, he still wouldn't
get a speech. If he was giving the three hundred thousand,
he wouldn't get to speak, he wouldn't get the gig.

Speaker 2 (01:08:26):
Well, apparently they sneaked him into Harvard, or got him
into Harvard the other day to speak to a small group.
He dropped his ice cream.

Speaker 1 (01:08:33):
Of course he did. That's that all he did.

Speaker 2 (01:08:37):
He dropped his ice cream.

Speaker 1 (01:08:39):
Remember when he was riding a bike in Martha's innery,
just plops over. It's like there's a leader of the
free world.

Speaker 2 (01:08:45):
Great, great, all right, more coming up on the Roding
Greg Show and Utah's Talk Radio one oh five nine
kN RS The Rotting Greg Show with you on this
uh Monday evening in Utah's Talk Radio one oh five
nine k n R S. We haven't talking yet today
about the passing of Francis today.

Speaker 1 (01:09:03):
Well, that's right, yeah, did.

Speaker 2 (01:09:06):
You just just remember.

Speaker 1 (01:09:08):
A little callous the way? That's right?

Speaker 5 (01:09:11):
There?

Speaker 1 (01:09:11):
Are you croaked?

Speaker 6 (01:09:12):
No?

Speaker 1 (01:09:12):
I don't. I don't mean him so calos that's it.
You know, I think the world of reaction is Look,
it's the pope. I mean I it's it's we should
still respect the positions, shouldn't we even if we thought
this one was really.

Speaker 2 (01:09:25):
It was a leftist? Was he was a leftist? But
you know what I find interesting and maybe it's the
times we're in now. When a pope passed away, this
was avery, This was a huge news story. Yes, I
don't get that sense. It is anymore. Am I reading
this wrong or it well?

Speaker 1 (01:09:45):
All I know is that it happened when when it
hit this morning, I have all you know, I have
all these different alerts that start and it just started
to just d started rolling down and even like, look,
I have former colleagues I served with in the house
and there had been some trips to or whatever where
they were. They're on whatever missions, you know, trade missions
are on. But they got to meet the Pope and

(01:10:05):
it meant a really really yeow. A former colleague of
mine sent me a picture where he was able to
meet Pope and is a big deal. I mean not
not of not Catholic, but a really big deal. Hand
the warm, the warm interaction was one that that they
were my friends who'd had that opportunity to recall and
recall with fond memories. It's a fun memory. They felt
like the man was genuine. He was a very loving

(01:10:28):
and caring human being. Have you you would expect from
a pope?

Speaker 8 (01:10:31):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:10:31):
Yeah, have you been to Rome?

Speaker 1 (01:10:33):
I haven't.

Speaker 2 (01:10:33):
Yeah, I've never fascinated one of my favorite cities. How
I could live in Italy?

Speaker 1 (01:10:39):
He is dirty? Is it dirty?

Speaker 2 (01:10:42):
It's a big city? Yeah, but you walk around that street.
I mean, and you know I've been to all the
tourist traps. Yeah, you know the Colisseum the Vatican.

Speaker 1 (01:10:53):
Yeah, you got near the back hen you get in there,
did you?

Speaker 2 (01:10:56):
Well? I got Yeah, you get into that.

Speaker 1 (01:10:58):
I thought I had all all.

Speaker 2 (01:11:00):
No, no, no, yeah, yeah, you can get a ticket
and you go into the Vatican and you the Sistine Chapel, okay,
which is and Saint Peter's Basilica, which is fascinating to see. Yeah,
it's one of my favorite cities. I'd go back. My
wife said, we've been there enough. We've been there two
or three times. I'd go back some more.

Speaker 1 (01:11:20):
When I was in my twenties, before I got married,
I went to Paris, I went to France and I
went to that. Well, yeah, and they're arrogant. Is all gay?
They were arrogant ninth or ninety one or two three whatever.
I was there. Yeah, but the Louver is amazing. I
mean to see you know, Statue David, see Mona Lisa
see all that. It was amazing. And then Versailles.

Speaker 2 (01:11:40):
Were you were you disappointed in the Mona Lisa? No,
I really't. No, it's not very big.

Speaker 1 (01:11:46):
No, here's here's what happened. I know it's it's actually
a little underwhelming that way. But here's my problem. I
started the day in the louver like taking a lot
of time on every little piece. Well guess what, I'm
like running through rooms at the end because i know
I'm never going to see it again, so I'm just like, oh,
look it's that, you, David, Oh look there's that. I
was just like just trying to absorb as much as
I could as fast as I could, which wasn't really

(01:12:07):
you know, you need it. You need more than one
day there, and I was there just for a day.

Speaker 6 (01:12:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:12:11):
Well, in my opinion, uh, Paris is they're they're cool
cities around the country, around the world. You know, you
walk down the okay, you look at the Arc de Trient,
you go to the Eiffel Tower. You you you Notre Dame.
I'd love to go back to Paris and see the
new I.

Speaker 1 (01:12:31):
Saw back back in the early nineties. Yeah, but you know,
my mother was an artist and she was alive back then,
so I had some little street artists. It was paintings
like the Eifel Tower. Whatever I bought, I was like
really a little I'd play a water paint me or somebody.
I purchased it for my mother.

Speaker 2 (01:12:46):
One of the most enjoyable afternoons we ever had, my
wife and I. We were with some friends at this time.
We sat at one of those little French cafes. Yeah,
and I don't understand this, but all the chairs face outward. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
they So we sat there. We had some delicious French
onion soup. You don't like you don't like French.

Speaker 1 (01:13:07):
I'm laughing because I had the exact opposite. I had
a I thought I ordered what I thought was a
ham sandwich. What it was is this bread that was
if you if you bit into it, it just crumbled.
It was so it was so it was just like
it was like stale bread. It put one thin piece
of ham on there and lots of butter. And then
they gave me like a three inch tall almost like

(01:13:27):
a shot glass of Coca cola with no ice in it.
And it was like a ten dollars. It was like
some exorbitant amount of money for a college kid. That
was like, are you kidding me? Really, I can't even
eat this.

Speaker 2 (01:13:36):
It's so you don't know how to be French.

Speaker 1 (01:13:39):
No, I didn't, you know, I don't to be and
I would say hi to people and someone's like, don't
say hi, why it's bonore. Well when they come to America,
I don't know if they say hi. If they say
bonjour to me, I don't say, well, here ors you?
Or you didn't say hello, So why can't I say hi?

Speaker 2 (01:13:54):
Here's what I was instructed to do. Ask him in French?
Do you speak English?

Speaker 1 (01:14:01):
They should just know it.

Speaker 2 (01:14:02):
And and they respect that.

Speaker 1 (01:14:06):
And they would mess with me.

Speaker 2 (01:14:09):
If you around the.

Speaker 1 (01:14:11):
World must be I went to a restaurant and they
gave me a raw fish in a in a bowl
of broth. They're just hazing me in Paris somewhere. They
were just messing with me because they could and I couldn't.
I It's like, do you think I truly ordered this
fish in this broth and this bowl? You know you're
messing with me. I couldn't. I was having a hard There's.

Speaker 2 (01:14:30):
A name for that, and I can't think of it
right now. There is a name.

Speaker 1 (01:14:32):
You know what I'd end up doing. They did have
McDonald's in Paris, and I ended up eating McDonald's all
the time.

Speaker 2 (01:14:37):
Yeah, we tried our first time in Paris maybe the
second day in Paris. We were with our sons and
once they found out there was a hard rock cafe
in Paris, they went immediately there because they could get
a big old American hamburger with a big old drink.
You can't find that anywhere.

Speaker 1 (01:14:54):
Good luck find any ice in Europe generally you just
have to have. There's no ice.

Speaker 2 (01:14:58):
You ask for it, they give you three the ice.

Speaker 1 (01:15:00):
Cubes like they're like, you're generous. It's it's it's.

Speaker 2 (01:15:03):
Traveling with you internationally would like I said, must be
a treat.

Speaker 1 (01:15:07):
It's they they conspire against Americans. I'm just telling you now.

Speaker 2 (01:15:10):
All right, I've felt it. You travel log. We should
bring in Larry Gilwick some day, have it analog. Let
me tell you something, give us some tips.

Speaker 1 (01:15:20):
I'll give him tips. I'm telling you He's right. They
are they are. I've been there. I know, I know
what the score is, I know what they're doing. They're
conspiring against you when you land there. They want your money,
but they don't want to be nice to you because
you're American.

Speaker 2 (01:15:34):
I don't think.

Speaker 1 (01:15:34):
But by the way, that was in the early nineties,
that was before the whole place was a Muslim or
Middle Eastern. Now I think the whole place has changed. Now,
how about you? I wouldn't even recognize it.

Speaker 2 (01:15:42):
Could being all right? More coming up the Rodding Greg
Show on Talk Radio one O five nine k n
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Speaker 1 (01:15:47):
Last segment of the Rod and Greg Show. We have
a special guest.

Speaker 2 (01:15:50):
For we have such friends, right, and they listen to
the show occasionally, not very often, running our listeners. But
here you here, you are demeaning trips to your Yeah,
well they are out to get you. And who joins us? Now? That?

Speaker 6 (01:16:06):
All right?

Speaker 2 (01:16:07):
All right? Larry? Would you dare take him with you
on a form trip?

Speaker 14 (01:16:11):
Are you familiar with the expression fat chance?

Speaker 2 (01:16:14):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:16:16):
Larry, I'm telling you. Walk in the restaurant, I point
to something on that menu. They send me a bowl
accomplish with a head still on it and a and
a broth. What am I to do with that? I'm
being haze? Is what's happened?

Speaker 2 (01:16:29):
A bull of base down?

Speaker 1 (01:16:30):
And that sounds very fancy, but it is.

Speaker 14 (01:16:35):
That fish stew yish. By the way, Rome, you asked
if it was dirty. Yes, they have graffiti, yes, And
as far as the trash, I wouldn't call it dirty, right,
I'd love Rome.

Speaker 2 (01:16:48):
I love it.

Speaker 14 (01:16:50):
It's it's not Switzerland with the clean up of Japan.

Speaker 2 (01:16:54):
I'm going there. I'm going there in June.

Speaker 1 (01:16:55):
Yeah, Switzerland.

Speaker 6 (01:16:57):
You know.

Speaker 14 (01:16:57):
Rome is a city built on seven hills. There's no
like Union Square or a time Square to it. But
the food, Mama.

Speaker 2 (01:17:06):
Is so good. That's where.

Speaker 1 (01:17:13):
Are you saying I'd have a better experience with the
food then I have been excluded from any of the
travel gros.

Speaker 14 (01:17:21):
Yes, big trips. The French food is fantastic. But what
you say about it's just it's true. You get this
big piece of bread and it's it just goes into
and if you turn it sideways you can't see the ham.

Speaker 1 (01:17:35):
No, you can't turn it the I was just telling
I was telling Row at the commercial break, you can
see through it. You can you can see light through
the ham, thin translucent ham, and there's lots of butter.
And then the bread is so stale, it's stale. Whatever
you bite it and it crumbles. You have to crumble.
You have to respect the culture. And it was like
it was, don't make so much of my culture and respect.

(01:17:55):
The Coca cola was this tall and it was like
a zillion dollars.

Speaker 14 (01:17:58):
What what Greg the the neophyte traveler has to say
is true about soda other than the United States and
parts of Canada. They you order a coke and it's
room temperature. I mean, no, wonder they lost.

Speaker 2 (01:18:15):
The war exactly exactly.

Speaker 14 (01:18:19):
Oh you want ice PLoP one one here, We're going
to be really generous.

Speaker 1 (01:18:24):
Here's your one ice cube?

Speaker 2 (01:18:25):
Can you afford it?

Speaker 1 (01:18:26):
And it's yeah, I know, it's probably an up charge.
And it's like it's the pebble ice that you get
the one cube just for the pebble, not even.

Speaker 2 (01:18:36):
Yes, sir. What does the summer travel season look like
this year? And where are people headed? Canadians are not
coming to the good that's fine, Capital are being really good.
It does, it really does.

Speaker 14 (01:18:54):
Kind of the emerging spots, including those that are always there,
like the UK is the number one international destination transoceanic
really not Canada for Americans. For North Americans is Britain,
The UK, Italy and Portugal have really emerged.

Speaker 6 (01:19:17):
You know.

Speaker 14 (01:19:17):
The one that I regret and I love the Baltic
Scandinavia and a cruise in the Baltics is fantastic, but
it's lost its charm because no one's going to Saint
Petersburg the other the other. Japan is red hot right
now with interest Southeast Asia, Thailand, Cambodia, big for my

(01:19:40):
kids and grandkids. Kathy and I would live there, Australian
New Zealand. Those are kind of the hot spots.

Speaker 2 (01:19:46):
Could he could survive in Thailand?

Speaker 14 (01:19:48):
Oh yeah, yeah, I am anxious to hear about his
his food culinary journey that what's this?

Speaker 2 (01:19:58):
What's well, that's a dead frog.

Speaker 1 (01:20:01):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:20:02):
Well, we traveled a couple of years ago with Larry,
went on a marvelous trip to Israel. That's a life
changing trip. If you ever want a life changing trip,
go to Israel. And flights are.

Speaker 6 (01:20:15):
They are.

Speaker 14 (01:20:16):
There are flights going back to Tel Aviv. Not every
airline has coming, like Delta is code sharing with all
the Israeli out of JFK and other places. But the
Holy Land changes your heart. And you know, I'm hoping
that people will pull their heads out and things will

(01:20:38):
settle down in the Middle East so that we can
get back.

Speaker 1 (01:20:42):
You've named a lot of places this summer. What would
be what would be if someone hasn't been to any
of these places you've mentioned, what would what would be
the trip you think to start off or go to.

Speaker 14 (01:20:50):
That really depends on fifteen second time and budget. But
Europe Europe river cruise, visit to the UK, that would
be the top for the list.

Speaker 2 (01:21:00):
I've got to do a river cruise. Haven't done that yet.
I've been to London.

Speaker 1 (01:21:03):
I can help you with that.

Speaker 2 (01:21:04):
I understand you have you know what guy?

Speaker 1 (01:21:05):
You know a guy I know what, I know what?

Speaker 2 (01:21:08):
A radio show.

Speaker 1 (01:21:08):
Yeah, he knows.

Speaker 2 (01:21:10):
Connections, fabulous fabula.

Speaker 1 (01:21:13):
Everybody knows him.

Speaker 2 (01:21:14):
Well, we'll trying to. I don't know what we do
with him. Hey, I really don't. Sending him to Europe
scares me. Stop me onto the Okay.

Speaker 1 (01:21:23):
I know what they're up to.

Speaker 14 (01:21:24):
The shameless self moment here, the travel show every Saturday
right here, and Gloss Talk Radio eleven am to one here.

Speaker 2 (01:21:32):
All right, guys, shouldered, God bless you and your family.
Enjoy the evening. We're back tomorrow

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