Rod Arquette Show: NEW ERA OF THE SHOW ON THE WAY; New Media Lies about Kamala Harris

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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How are you everybody? Hello, Utah. It is great to

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be with you on this Thank Rod is Friday in
Utah's Talk Radio one oh five nine K and our ass.
We've got a lot to get to today. A lot
of our time is going to be spent talking about
Kamala Harris. I'm not sure what it is going to
take to convince the American voter that she would be
the worst president this country has ever had. But we

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need to be able to do that, and we're going
to explore more facets of her life. You know what
she did in California. We'll talk about how the media
is protecting her with a round of lives. So we've
got a lot to get to today. Of course, our
big announcement coming your way in the five o'clock hour,
and we'll get to some calls as well today. Boy,
I tell you, what, are we starting to hear the

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R word when it comes to the economy recession? Maybe?
I mean today the jobs report came out. They were
expecting that what about one hundred and seventy five thousand
new jobs would be created. Well, in fact, only one
hundred and fourteen thousand were created. The Dow today just
had a horrible day, down more than six hundred points.

(01:52):
Sorry about your investment plan, but it just, you know,
it kind of tanked today and there is concern out
there about the possible a recession that is not something
now It is kind of funny today, I mean, I
don't know how they get away with this. No one's
going to call her on the carpet on this today.
But Kamala Harris is out there today blaming on the

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bad job report on Donald Trump. Donald Trump has not
been in the White House since January twentieth of twenty
and ten. He's up been in the White House, So
what on earth, what on earth does he have to
do with that bad job reports today? But boy, the
Democrats are going to try and pin it on him

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as best as they possibly can, and that's the direction.
But they've got they got some explaining to do, as
they used to say, about what's going on with the economy,
and there is fear now of the economy slowing down
and a possible recession. All right, if you want to
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we'll give you another chance to pick up the tickets. Now,
years and years ago, it's a long time ago. Folks.

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When I first got into radio, you know, there used
to be what they called a radio format of top
forty radio. Now top forty radio would they did a
lot of research almost daily, if not weekly, on the
top songs that people wanted to hear, and the playlist

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of songs that you had anywhere range from eighty songs
to one hundred songs, and you especially and certain songs
were listed as the ones that you play often. Certain
songs were okay. Then you get kind of some of
the older songs that are kind of fading, but people
wanted to hear them. But you would generally play the
hits of the day, and you would hear slogans that

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radio stations would use all hits all the time, or
the hits just keep on coming, and you'd play those
songs just over and over again. That's why I did
that for about a year, maybe two years, and then
I couldn't take it anymore. I was a journalist and
I wanted to do journalism. But they're you know, and
people that still play those songs today, more power to them,

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and they just got boring to me, that's my opinion.
So I got thinking about that today when it comes
to Kamala Harris, because there is no doubt. As we
dig more and more and more into her background, the
hits just keep on coming. Case in point, what you're
about to hear is classic Kamala Harris. Now, we played

(04:49):
this yesterday, but it was late in the show and
many of you may not have heard it. But when
she was a US senator. This is back in twenty seventeen.
This was what a year before she embarrassed herself in
a hatchet job against then Supreme korma Supreme Court nominee
Bret Kavadam, and almost exactly two years before her twenty

(05:13):
twenty presidential campaign that died on the you know the calendar,
before he even got to an election. You're going to hear
her rail against Americans who are in joined the Christmas
season while illegal immigrant status remains in flux. Listen to
what she had to say as she talked about Christmas

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and illegal aliens.

Speaker 3 (05:36):
And when we all sing happy tunes and sing Merry
Christmas and wish each other merry Christmas, these children are
not going to have a merry Christmas. How dare we
speak merry Christmas? How dare we.

Speaker 1 (05:51):
Well, there's another thing that we found out that Kamala
Hera Harris doesn't like she doesn't like police U, she
likes the illegal aliens, she doesn't like people who are
trying to close the border. And now apparently she doesn't
like Christmas. So if you're around somebody who is hard
pressed having a difficult time during the holiday season, apparently

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you cannot say Mary Christmas. How dare we, as she said,
say Marry Christmas to people who are facing a tough time.
I mean, come on, this is phony. It's obnoxiously hectoring
something in her political brain. I don't know where it
is said to her. It's time to get indignant on

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behalf of these dreamers. So basically what you hear doing
is start yelling about how it's somehow shameful for Americans
to speak Merry Christmas. Well, a class of illegal immigrants
are struggling and their status remains unresolved. I mean, this
is just this is an indication as to who this

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woman is. And she not only does this to Americans
in general, but she does this to her staff. There
are reports, and more and more reports are coming out
that many many of her staffers quit her various offices
throughout the year. She apparently has an extraordinary turnover rate.

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What ninety two percent of the original staff she had
when she went in as Vice president has now quit.
There are stories about how she beerates and belittles aides,
always blaming everyone else for any failure, very much including
her own. So the reputation is starting to catch up
with her. Kevin McCarthy, the former Speaker of the House,

(07:37):
was on the Jesse Waters Show last night and Jesse
Waters decided to ask Kevin McCarthy for his opinion as
to what it was like for members of the House,
both Republicans and Democrats, to work with Kamala Harris when
she was a US senator. Listen to what he had
to say.

Speaker 4 (07:56):
You know, when I would sit with Democrat members from California,
they didn't like her, and they said she didn't work
with them, right because she was the senator. They I said, well,
do you work with your senator? She doesn't work with me,
Feinstein would back in the day, but no, she didn't
work with them either. It didn't seem that the White
House would ever be interested in what she had to

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say or what position she had to take. And you know,
even when it came down to the fourth of July.
She only got invited up to the Truman Balcony this
year when he's about to put back out, So it's.

Speaker 5 (08:28):
Very that's a big honor when you get invited to
the Truman balcony. Yeah, everybody sees you. Well, Hunter always there.

Speaker 6 (08:35):
Obviously he's rubbing, but he's always always there with that.

Speaker 1 (08:39):
The Truman Balcony, by the way, is on the second
floor of the White House and it overlooked the Washington Monument.
And when you're invited up there, it's really a status symbol.
Especially when you're invited up there, that's the balcony President's Wave.
But when you're invited up there to view the fireworks
on July fourth, that is considered quite an honor. But
you can hear Kevin McCarthy say it. Kevin McCarthy is

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there saying she was very difficult to work with. No
one wanted to work with Kamala Harris, you know, and
you know, so that side of Kamala Harris needs to
come out. But let me caution and I know Greg
has said this before, let me caution you that if
we focus too much on her character flaws, we'll let

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the media and her campaign, we're doing exactly what they want.
They don't want voters in America to look at her record.
They don't want to see what she, along with Joe Biden,
has done for the past four years. Because if Americans
look at that and they compare four years of Donald
Trump with four years of Kamala Harris and Joe Biden,

(09:44):
their choice as to who to vote for will be
relatively easy. But if we don't bring that up, if
we continue to focus that she is a a number
one B word, okay, and she belittles her staff, she
is not a very nice person. The cackle is still there.
We are missing the point. We have got to focus

(10:05):
on the issues because if we don't, I think we're
playing right into their hands. All right, when we come back,
we'll talk about Kamala Harris in California and what would
happen if her thinking and the thinking of many liberals
in California came over the Sierra Nevadas and spread to
the rest of the country. It could be dangerous. We'll
talk about that coming up right here on the Rod

(10:26):
our Ken Show and Utah's Talk Radio one O five
to nine K and R. As think about California, I
mean out of California. Of course, we had the one
and only Ronald Draagan, the great communicator. In California used
to be considered a moderate to Republican state. I mean,
you know, it gave us Ronald Reagan. But ever since

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Reagan stepped aside, this state has become extremely progressive. And
you know, many people are worried that if elected, Kamala
Harris will lead to the Californication of American Joining us
on our Newsmaker line to talk about that right now,
as Ed ring Ed is a senior fellow at the
Center for American Great miss Ed. Always great to have
you on the show. Ed, Let's talk about Kamala Harris

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in California. What do you think we should know about
her time in California and what she did well.

Speaker 7 (11:16):
She's been a very successful politician in California, and California's
voters are probably the most heavily progressive, liberal leaning voters
in the country. So she's built her political success on
issues that are simply not compatible with most of America.

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And more to the point, the consequences of these policies
have really made things difficult for Californians.

Speaker 1 (11:47):
What is Kamala Harris all about in your opinion.

Speaker 7 (11:49):
Ed, that's a really good question. You know, can we
get into her mind and figure out what truly motivates her?
I mean, politics drives out people that don't want the
the mud slinging, the dirty tricks, the corruption. It's it's unusual.

(12:12):
I guess it's just a little harder to have any politician,
to find any politician that's really looking out for the
interests of the rest of the country, or or if
they are, they're they're kind of have some kind of
ideological fanaticism that's really not productive for the whole country,
you know, So she's at least part of that. You know,

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she's a politician, she's she's a she's somebody that again
she built her political career on things that are just
so harmful. She's she's going to destroy our energy industry.
I mean, that is not exaggeration when former President Trump
talks about that. She's opposed to fracking and offshore drilling,

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but she supports off floating, offshore wind. You know, these
are these are terrible policies that are going to continue
to make things unaffordable in the country. She's against border security,
she supports the Green New Deal. She you know, she
she wants to defund the police. She raised bail for
rioters and looters in the twenty twenty riots. She encouraged

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them to keep on rioting. This is a This is
a radical and whether she's doing it, you know, because
she wants to be politically successful and thinks that's the
pathway to political success or truly believes all of this
stuff in some respects is irrelevant because she's not going
to change.

Speaker 1 (13:38):
And do you're write about this fact that California is
ruled by a rather interesting coalition of various groups. Who
make up that coalition? And how powerful is it?

Speaker 7 (13:50):
Well, you know, it's it's a machine, and it's it's
It includes extreme environmentalists, a lot of opportunistic business interests,
the renewables lobby, which is extremely powerful. This is a
multi multi billion dollar industry at this point, hundreds of
billions of dollars in that industry. And then the so
called homeless industrial complex, the people that are spent collecting,

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you know, taxpayer funds. They're collecting twenty thirty billion dollars
in California, probably over thirty billion dollars by now building
apartments for homeless people that are costing, you know, five
hundred eight hundred thousand dollars each. You'll never house more
than a fraction of them. There's no conditions on their behavior.

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They actually measure the success of these homeless apartments if
they don't evict people, so they don't know if somebody's
been committing vandalism or really getting out of control with
drugs or even violence. They let them keep living there.
These things are disasters. They're worse than the projects of
the nineteen sixties ever were. That's the homeless industrial complex.

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The people that are making all the money don't want
the homeless problem to get solved. It's also the diversity,
equity and inclusion industrial complex, if you want to call
it that. Public sector unions, including the Teachers' Union, Hollywood,
all of these tech billionaires, they're all on the on
this agenda. They're they're all in on it. So that's

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a very difficult coalition to stop. And that's why you
have to stop it at the Sierra Nevada Mountains, and
you can't let it spill over into the rest of
this country.

Speaker 1 (15:26):
Is was this coalition alive and well during Reagan's years
and if so, how was he able to cut through this?

Speaker 7 (15:33):
It wasn't alive. And well, during the Reagan years in California,
you know, he was Ronald Reagan was a governor that
took on the protesters, the Vietnam War protesters, and we can,
you know, dissect that all day long. But California was
a more conservative state in general back then. The demographics

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of California have changed and the the entire political landscape
has changed. The Republicans made a couple of they made
a couple of mistakes in the course of trying to
hang on to certain they were hanging on to the legislature.
They had a couple of governors. Schwarzenegger was sort of
a Republican. But the problem was they lost the ability

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to relate to the electorate because they were successfully accused
by the Democrats of being racist, which is not true.
And they were successfully accused of being against women's rights,
and they were successfully accused of being against environmental protection.
And those stigmas have really hurt California. And again, when

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you have a coalition that powerful, that has all of
that money, you know, just the public sector unions in
California collect and spend about a billion dollars a year.

Speaker 2 (16:52):
They put about a.

Speaker 7 (16:53):
Third of that into politics explicitly, and maybe another third
into so called information campaigns. Election cycle, you've got over
a billion dollars just a public sector union money going
in to manipulate public sentiment, so you know, and then
you've got guys like Mark Zuckerberg, who spent half a
billion dollars nearly all by himself in the last election

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cycle nationally, So these people, you know. Then you've got Hollywood,
You've got social media, and it's all here. This is
the center of all of that power. So you know,
you'd have to have an electorate that would be even
more conservative than usual in order to resist all of
that propaganda. And I think people are a little bit
unfair to Californians in that regard because we are absolutely

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saturated with progressive propaganda and it's hard to ignore unless
you really do your homework.

Speaker 1 (17:43):
And final question for you, what would your warning be
to the American voters who are looking at these very
progressive policies and Kamala Harris, if in fact they do
come over this year and Nevada's and spread to the
rest of the country, what would your warning.

Speaker 2 (17:57):
Be ed.

Speaker 1 (18:00):
Them.

Speaker 7 (18:00):
You know, a lot of people are reluctant to vote
for Republicans. They're reluctant to vote for MAGA Republicans, They're
reluctant to vote for Trump because they have some criticisms.
Some of the criticisms are legitimate. But if you think
that what you're going to get with Republicans and the
MAGA and Trump is going to be worse than what
you're going to get with these Democrats, you're not paying attention.

(18:23):
They talk about the threat to democracy, they talk about fascism.
The business model of progressive Democrats is fascism. These are
big businesses in California, these big social media companies, these
big tech companies, entertainment media. These are big, powerful corporations
that are bent on more control, more centralization of wealth.

(18:45):
This is not a you know, Joe finding looking out
for the common worker. These are elites in California that
want more power and more control. They're the ones that
are the threat to democracy. So if you don't like
Donald Trump, vote for him anyway, because the people that
are going to come in if he doesn't get in

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there are much.

Speaker 1 (19:07):
Worse, much worse. You're right, ed rang of course, Ed
is a senior fellow at the Center for American Great
miss talking about Kamala's californication of America. It could happen
votes if she is elected president of the United States. Now,
much more to come here on the rod Arquecho, including
our big announcement coming your way at the top of
the hour five o'clock. Tell all your friends, your family,

(19:30):
Let everybody know they'll want to tune in to find
out what's going to happen that's coming up here in
just about a half hour on Utah's Talk Radio one
oh five nine knrs. Now, let's talk more about Kamala Harris.
You know, there isn't I think this is fair to
say a single thing normal about the campaign for the
White House since Joe Biden decided to drop out and

(19:52):
Kamala Harris was anointed as the replacement for him, even
though really none of the delegates have been given a
chance to vote. You've got a sitting president who is
up for reelection, announced in a very terse letter that
he was abandoning his campaign just a little over one
hundred days before the election. He supposedly was sick for

(20:14):
the second time after what happened in Las Vegas. Then
you have Kamala Harris stepping in, You've got an assassination
attempt on their challenger, Donald Trump. So it has been
just crazy. Well, the media has done, i think to
this point, a fantastic job in covering up for in
protecting her. She has held a news conference as rarely,

(20:34):
if at all, from what I can see, taking questions
from the media asking her about her various flip flops.
That's probably never going to happen. So why is the
media media being so protective? Joining us on our newsmaker
line right now is Eddie Scary. Eddie is a DC
columnist at The Federalist. Eddie, thank you very much for
joining us tonight. You know, I've seen the power of

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the media in the past, but what a cell job
this has become, Eddie.

Speaker 8 (21:00):
Oh yeah, this is a this is a makeover like
I've never really seen before, other than maybe for Michelle Obama.
But it's it's really stunning what they've tried to do,
which is turn Kamala Harris into something that she's not,
which is a competent, charismatic figure, the exact opposite of
everything everyone, even on the left knew and said about her,

(21:23):
and and we're afraid to admit about her in public
when they were if you were a Democrat, you didn't
want to talk about it. But there were leaks all
over the place in the New York Times, in Politico,
the Washington Post, CNN, just.

Speaker 9 (21:37):
About what a nightmare.

Speaker 8 (21:39):
It was to work for her, why she couldn't get
a grasp on on doing the job.

Speaker 2 (21:44):
And yet now.

Speaker 8 (21:44):
Suddenly what she's she's uh, she's Miss America. She's the
most beautiful person in the world. She's the smartest person
you've ever met.

Speaker 1 (21:51):
And the whole thing is just fake. It's fake Eddie.
She couldn't even get votes in the primary several years ago.
I mean, how on earth does they expect the American
people to take this all in? Are the American people
or some American people that gullible?

Speaker 9 (22:08):
You know, that's a that's a.

Speaker 8 (22:09):
Really good question, and it's something that it really defies belief, honestly,
if you're going to tell me that overnight, you know,
there's a poll that just came out the Politico ran
in this morning showing that Harris is now ahead by
three points in Pennsylvania. She's neck, She's either neck and
neck like absolutely tied direct tie or she's.

Speaker 9 (22:30):
Ahead, and basically every swing state. Now, if you're going.

Speaker 8 (22:33):
To tell me that Kamala Harris became popular overnight, then
I don't.

Speaker 9 (22:39):
Know what there is. You won't tell me what, you
won't expect me to believe.

Speaker 8 (22:42):
But I mean, I'm sure there are some people out
there who are simply just so believed that Joe Biden
is no longer going to be the nominee that they're
they're just taking a giant you know, they're exhaling a
giant exhale and saying, I will vote for this person.

Speaker 9 (22:56):
Finally I can do this.

Speaker 8 (22:58):
But the idea that all these independents came and said, yep,
I'm voting for Harris.

Speaker 9 (23:03):
Now, this is my woman.

Speaker 8 (23:05):
It's it's just again, if you can tell me not
expecting to believe it, there's nothing you won't tell me.

Speaker 1 (23:09):
You have got to Already, we've had several you've got
to be kidding me moments in this campaign. The one
that stood out to me so far has been the
Barack and Michelle endorsement of Kamala Harris. That was you've
got to be kidding me moment. Oh, that was nothing.

Speaker 9 (23:25):
Sort of a scandal.

Speaker 8 (23:26):
If we have an honest media, they would call it
a scandal because it was dude, you it was done
on videos, so obviously stage you didn't get the full
phone call of what you saw in the video.

Speaker 9 (23:36):
But if you listen, or if you read the transcript that.

Speaker 8 (23:39):
Was that was released of the phone call, there's a
quote in there that from Obama saying, I guess or
he says, apparently a lot of people feel that.

Speaker 9 (23:47):
You need to be the nominee.

Speaker 8 (23:49):
I mean, that is a stunning lack of enthusiasm. This
should have been you know, Barack Obama showing up to
this mega campaign event where he nights you know, the
next nominee, the next somewhat black nominee to be president,
and yet we get this absolutely lackluster board.

Speaker 9 (24:07):
I think we're reluctant, truly announcement.

Speaker 8 (24:09):
And if if Obama, who's as good a politician as
really there ever.

Speaker 9 (24:13):
Was, if he's not excited about this, I don't.

Speaker 8 (24:15):
See what this this whole thing the media is trying
to do with with turn Kamala Harris into a sex
symbol and get everyone believing that, oh, this is completely
normal and yeah, it's the whole race is now dead heat.

Speaker 9 (24:26):
I just don't buy it, Eddie.

Speaker 1 (24:27):
What is it going to take to call her out
on the flip flop her very progressive stand on several issues.
What is it going to take to call this woman out?

Speaker 8 (24:36):
Well, you call her out and you're called the racist.
The media doing it every single time. You identify the
fact that that she was hired to be to be
Biden's running me because she was a woman, and then
in the year of George Floyd, there was no doubt
it was going to be a black woman.

Speaker 2 (24:51):
You call that.

Speaker 8 (24:52):
Out, you call the racist, You call out that she was.
You know, she was called the borders are because the
Biden administration, Joe Biden himself made a big show about
naming her the point person on fixing the border.

Speaker 9 (25:05):
You say that, they call you a liar. Oh, by
the way, you're a racist.

Speaker 10 (25:08):
Uh.

Speaker 9 (25:08):
There were other things.

Speaker 8 (25:10):
She was also supposed to be, at one point the
point person on voting rights and you know, expanding voting rights.
You'd never hear about that anymore because.

Speaker 9 (25:17):
She did nothing.

Speaker 8 (25:18):
There was no progress on anything. There was nothing, no,
no substantive changes. In fact, anything she touched got worse.
But the records there and once those ads really start
rolling out from the Trump campaign, once they do have
a debate, which I do believe they will, that it's
going to be not as bad for Democrats as it
was for Joe Biden because Kamala Harris isn't stupid. She's

(25:40):
not She's obviously not in mental decline like like the
president is. But I think you're once again going to
be a very see a very start contract. You're gonna
see Trump raising her record that nobody can deny. She
can't run away from it. In fact, she will embrace
it while saying, well, it wasn't perfect, but you know,
we're gonna we're gonna do better next time. But people
are going to see the there and I think that's

(26:01):
when that's when people really will see, you know, this
isn't you know she's she's she's an attractive woman, but.

Speaker 9 (26:05):
This still isn't it look?

Speaker 1 (26:07):
Final question for you, Eddie. At this point, she has
had any news conferences. Do you think she will before
election day?

Speaker 10 (26:15):
Uh?

Speaker 9 (26:15):
I'm sure she probably will have one. But Democrats wager
that they don't need it. That's the that's the beauty
of being a Democrat.

Speaker 8 (26:22):
You don't need to do that because the media is
gonna protect you anyway.

Speaker 2 (26:26):
There.

Speaker 8 (26:27):
The media is in on there's they've got a stake
in Democrats winning because they share.

Speaker 9 (26:32):
The same goal as Democrats.

Speaker 8 (26:34):
So you're not gonna see much complaining about there not
being any any press conferences or media availability, especially because
they they then know they have to give that same
opportunity to Donald Trump. And they do not want Donald
Trump in front of people. They don't want him on TV,
they don't want him.

Speaker 9 (26:51):
Having an audience.

Speaker 8 (26:52):
That's why they say we don't want audiences at the debate.
They don't like when he has an audience. So you know,
is there gonna be much complaining about that? I don't
think so, but she'll probably have at least one before
election day.

Speaker 1 (27:02):
Well, we'll see. Eddie Scary. Eddie is with the Washington Examiner,
I'm sorry, with the Federalist. He is their DC columnist
talking about how the media right now is protecting Kamala
Harris and they really are. I mean, she's in what
day thirteen now since Joe Biden dropped out and she
became the anointed one, has not taken a question from
the media, and there are there's a list of questions

(27:24):
I mean I played for you earlier and talked about
how you know the hits just keep on coming when
it comes to Kamala Harris. We've got that SoundBite where
with her yelling at people. This was back in twenty seventeen,
yelling at the American people for wishing illegal immigrants Marry
Christmas and saying, how dare you say Merry Christmas to

(27:45):
these poor people. I mean, she's a whack job, folks,
and the media is going to protect her. The uninformed
voter will think she's the greatest thing next to slice bread,
and the media will create And you just have to
be aware and as you talk to people, as you
run into people, and you get into a conversation, point

(28:06):
out some of the challenges that will face with Kamala Harris.
I heard Kelly Shackelford. He is with First Liberty, This
an organization that is fighting to maintain our liberties on
with Glenn Beck this morning, and he was talking about
if Kamala Harris is elected president and the Demoncrats control
both the House and Senate, hang onto your hats because

(28:27):
the first thing they're going to go after is certainly
reform of the US Supreme Court. They will try and
stack the court. They will try and do everything they
can to overturn what the court has done since Donald
Trump was able to put three conservative judges on that court.
And that's one of the targets that they'll have. So
get ready, folks, explain to your people and the people

(28:48):
you associate with why it is important that she not
become president of the United States. All right, We've got
a lot to get to on this Thank Roderick Friday.
Our big announcement coming your way at the top of
the or so. We invite you to stay with us
right here on Utah's Talk Radio one oh five nine knrs.
A couple other stories I want to share with you today.
You know, we have flown several times as a family,

(29:13):
and we've got a large family now, I mean fifteen
of us with eight adults and seven children in that
plane anymore. And you know, it is almost impossible to
get enough seats for the family to sit together. I
mean the last time we did, I mean we had
a book the tickets out about eighteen months before we
are going to fly. But we are able to do it.

Speaker 2 (29:32):
Well.

Speaker 1 (29:32):
It looks like now that the Department of Transportation is
looking at a way for families to sit together on
flights for free. I'm not sure exactly what that means,
but right now, domestic airlines to eat traveling families differently.
American airlines they guarantee that parents can sit next to
their children, but on other flights and other airlines, parents

(29:54):
are left to pay for more expensive assigned seeds or
to bank on the good will of many of the passengers.
You know, I'm trying to remember if I've ever been
asked to move and change a seat so somebody could
sit next to somebody else. I think I have, and
you know I don't care. I'm willing to do so
for the most part, so they don't have to sit
in that middle seat. We don't like the middle seats,

(30:17):
but apparently under this proposal, it would be free for
children aged thirteen and under, so sit next to at
least one parent or an accompany. An adult next too
means in the same row when available. When adjacent seats
in the same row are available, airlines will be required
the seat parents next to their children within forty eight

(30:38):
hours of booking. If that is impossible, children could be
placed across the aisle or directly in front or behind
a parent or an accompanying adults. So they are looking
at doing that and traveling with family, especially this time
of year. I mean we you know, I set the
airport a couple of weeks ago, coming back from the
Republican National Convention with Greg. Tell what it was. It

(31:01):
was busy, it was crowded and people and that was
the day they had the computer problems. But people, you know,
it is nice to fly with your family. I've flown
when I'm separated from my wife. Are my sons, and
you know, we're adults and that's okay. But with little kids,
it's so much better on them. They feel more secure.
For some who have never flown, it's a bit frightening anymore,

(31:21):
all right. More and more is now being made as
to what happened in the Olympic boxing ring a couple
of days ago when the fighter from Italy basically said, look,
I'm not fighting this guy because I believe he's a man.
I've never been hit so hard in all my life.
I believe one of the punches broke her nose. She

(31:42):
was only in the ring for about forty five seconds
and decide to call it quit. So the debate there
continues to go on and on, and you know you've
got what was an article today, I think it was
Gordon Mounsen in the in the Tribune writing that, you know,
the the the boxer from Algeria, I believe it was

(32:03):
was in fact a woman and was not a transgender
man who thinks he's a woman. That was the argument
that Gordon Monson was making today. And he talks about
several studies which are indicating that this boxer was raised
as a female, has always thought of herself as a female,
so to target the boxer saying this is wrong for
a transgender man. And Monson reports that she wasn't transgender,

(32:27):
she was in fact a woman, But that doesn't lower
the debate over all of this. And I have yet
to hear the White House or Kamala Harris say anything
about this right now. I don't know if I I've
heard anybody say anything about this right now.

Speaker 2 (32:46):
Now.

Speaker 1 (32:47):
Speaking of that, this story coming out of the state
of Massachusetts, where apparently the state Senate there in the
what is it debate? State, excuse me, I had to
sneeze pass to bill that would basically remove gendered language
from births of tic fits, erasing traditional family roles and

(33:10):
language from the document. What this all means, basically, it
would eliminate mother and father from birth certificates anymore. It
is Bill forty seven to fifty. It is being described
by its sponsor as an act to ensure legal parentage equality,
and it changes language concerning paternity children born out of

(33:32):
wedlock as well as mothers and fathers, and rather than
referencing the child's mother, the bill would swap out the
word for the phrasing person who gave birth. So apparently
mothers are no longer important in Massachusetts. They're no longer
called mothers, but they are going to be called persons
who gave birth. I mean this language it is. It's

(33:57):
pretty amazing what the left is doing to this country today.
Eliminate gender, eliminate the role of parents, eliminate the family.
It's all part of the giant plan that Marxians have
had since the very beginning. Karl Marx and everything else
here is a total change of the family. And it's
interesting to note that in this election right now between

(34:22):
Donald Trump and Kamala Harris shall be the nominee. Convention
coming up in a couple of weeks. That's really it's
really not Trump versus Harris. You know, someone wrote today,
it's Trump versus cultural institutions, institutions like the media, institutions
like you know, the Union, various institutions. So it's not

(34:42):
Donald Trump versus Kamala Harris. It's the institutions that he
is taking on a change in our society, a change
in our way of life, and they want to take
us radically left. And I think that's where people are
very concerned. But when you've got the left in the
media on your side, it's gonna it's gonna take a

(35:05):
It is a huge hill to climb for Donald Trump
and his supporters. Can they do it? I believe they can.
But as Greg was saying a couple of days ago,
you have to focus on the Biden Harris administration, not
all all these quirky things she does, like that cackle
that drives me nuts. But focus on the issues. Compare

(35:26):
the two together, and if you can do that makes
your vote very very easy. That's what we have to
do in this in this upcoming campaign and stay focused
on that. And the Trump campaign needs to be very
disciplined in that regard. You know, this is something that
I've been thinking about for probably the last eighteen months,
you know, And I've been doing this for a very

(35:47):
very long time. I've been in radio and television. It's
been enjoyable. It's always been a lot of fun. For
the last what fourteen years during the Rodar kentcho every
afternoon from four to seven here on Talk Radio one
oh five, dian K and rs have been able to
talk over the years to a lot of very interesting people,
but most importantly to talk to you listeners. I have

(36:08):
people come up to me all the time and they'll
hear my voice, and this happens with radio people all
the time. They hear your voice and they come up
and they go are you are you? And you say yes,
and they're always very gracious and love your input into
the show. But over the last eighteen months, like I said,
I've been thinking a lot about this as to where
we go in the future and what do we do now.

(36:28):
So what we've done today is at seven o'clock tonight,
we will pack up the rod Ar Qut Show. We
will put it in a box and send it to
I think Rush used to call it the Center for
Broadcast Excellence, and we will send it there and it
will be in an archive and rest there. And that's
what's going to happen to the rod Arket Show. So

(36:49):
that's the big announcement today, is that the rod ar
kencho as of seven o'clock tonight, will no longer exist.
But we don't stop there. There is a new chapter
being written in this show, and we've decided to make
some changes and I think these are changes that I
know you will enjoy. And we've gotten a lot of
positive feedback on this as well. For about the last

(37:11):
eighteen months, maybe two years, I've had the opportunity, don't
know how to describe the opportunity to work with a
guy by the name of Greg Hughes. Now Greg Hughes,
many of you know he would Speaker of the House.
He was a state lawmaker, he ran for governor, he
ran for Congress. But he's been a part of the show.

Speaker 2 (37:29):
You know.

Speaker 1 (37:29):
It started out as one segment. We expanded it to two,
and then we said, you know, let's do a show
a week and we called it Wingman Wednesday, and it
just seemed to click and we have such a good
time and the feedback we get on this show is
so positive. So I'm announcing that as of Monday, it
will no longer be the Rod r Kin Show, even

(37:51):
though we'll probably slip up and call it that sometime.
It will become the Rod and Greg Show. And I'm
excited about it, and I think Greg Hughes you're excit.
I did about it as well.

Speaker 5 (38:01):
Yes, I think that's an understatement.

Speaker 6 (38:03):
Rod.

Speaker 5 (38:04):
I have been wingman. I've been I've been your goose
Pete Maverick and I have absolutely loved it. You've you're
a friend, you're a mentor, and you've been very kind
to let me be part of this incredible show for
so many years. And I just I'm pinching myself. I
think it's going to be fun. You've done so much.
I don't know if that probably your radio audience knows,

(38:24):
but you've been in front of the camera on TV yep,
You've been behind the microphone. You've been you've produced news.
You've actually built teams and other markets radio teams. You've
done so much. You are you are, in my opinion,
the king of media, certainly here in Salt Lake City.
If not, you know all the link and so to
be able to do the show with you, my friend

(38:44):
I am just I am just raring to go, and
I'm excited, and I really love that we get to
talk to this audience and I can day and you
let me come in here and we could do this
every day. This is the smartest audience in all the land.

Speaker 1 (38:57):
Well, this is this is a trend that you've happening
around the country. If you go to talk radio stations,
some very successful programs, our teams. I mean I worked
with a great team up in Seattle, Ron and Don.
They were on Afternoon Drive. Great team. You and I
big fans of John and Ken at KFI down in
Los Angeles. Ken has since retired, so John is doing
the show by himself. But even on the nationally syndicated

(39:20):
shows like with Glenn, you know, the days of the
single host are kind of going away. I mean Rush
and Sean. Even though you know Rush rarely, you rarely
hear from heard from his producer. Rush was that great
of a talent that he could do this on his own.
But you look at Glenn, he had Stuber, Gear and
Pat who contribute. You have Clay and Buck, Sean Hannity,

(39:43):
his producer Lynda is always involved. And I've been looking
for quite some time for someone to find that we
may not always agree, and we do disagree sometimes, especially
when it comes to music and journey sports, you know,
stuff like that. But we agree on a lot of things.
But the one thing we have in common is we

(40:04):
think that's my opinion. I'll let you weigh in on
this as well. It is so important that our audience
really gets to the heart of the issues each and
every day and understands what is going on. Like like
we've said, we look for common sense, we look for
fair mindedness, and we want to do it in a
very informative yet entertaining way. And I know we're starting

(40:27):
to achieve that and that's why I want to see
this show grow.

Speaker 5 (40:30):
Well, if you don't laugh, you'll cry, and so we're
here to make you laugh. But we're gonna we do.
I really think that the times that we're living in
are historic. They're incredibly important. But I think the role
for thought leaders, and you see them on the nationally
syndicated shows are wildly popular around the country and here
on can RS. But you have been Rod the loan

(40:51):
can I believe the lone conservative voice in this market
in Utah. And I just think that being a part
this with you. We are going to start talking to
people about the common sense, the deciphering of all the
information the regime media and how they're throwing it at
the at the public. And in this year of twenty
twenty four, there couldn't be a more important time to

(41:13):
have a place. And it's my goal that this is
the gatekeep, this is the place you come to kind
of hear what's the take, Like I used to do
with Rush when Rush was alive, and I couldn't wait
to hear his next show because he would kind of
decipher it for me, give me his take. I enjoyed
that guy from nineteen ninety one on until he passed away.
He was kind of that he held that place for me,

(41:34):
I think, And I'm going to work my guts out
to be part of a conduit of communication where we
laugh instead of cry, but we really get down to
the heart of it. We tell the truth, so when
people are bombarded with the lies that are that are
growing out there, we give them. We give them the
relevant information.

Speaker 2 (41:50):
You know.

Speaker 1 (41:50):
And I think our goal on the show is and
you mentioned Rush. The years that Rush was on, if
there was a big story that happened during the day,
you always wondered what Rush would say about it. The
next day you're going to I wonder what he's going
to say, because he had that unique ability to look
at a story and come at it from an angle
that nobody thought about, nobody really understood, and you go, wow,

(42:14):
I didn't think of that. That's I think it is
our goal. Our goal is to find that nugget that
people really didn't think about and get them thinking about,
like you say, a thought leader.

Speaker 5 (42:24):
And you know what, we need this in Utah. I
thought in yesterday's program that you shared the observations that
Tucker Carlson had with Senator Mike Lee.

Speaker 1 (42:33):
I guess something to say about center Lee here in
just a second.

Speaker 5 (42:35):
And he was. And Tucker Carlson was worried that Utah
might be too nice and they might let go by
some of the scary leftist agenda that took a state
like California and destroyed it. And he said out loud
that he was concerned that Utah, because it's nice and
it wants to accept everyone and love everyone and hug
it out, this state could go that way. Well, we're
the firewall. We're not. I'm not that nice. I'm not

(42:58):
letting those leftists come here and earn this state upside down.
And I think that the two of us together, I
think that, to Tucker Carlson's point, we will be the
firewall for that.

Speaker 1 (43:07):
Well, here's where I'm met at sunder Lee. If you
heard that exchange yesterday, at the beginning of it, sender
Lee said, you know, the print media and the digital
media and the media in general, and in Utah has
become you know, very liberal, you know, very left.

Speaker 5 (43:20):
He didn't mention us, No, he did for that.

Speaker 1 (43:24):
I mean, he could have said except for one radio
at one place, one place where conservatives can go to
get the truth. And I heard that. I said, you
ain't coming on this show anymore. You are, you are banned.

Speaker 5 (43:35):
I think play of time to come around on that.
But honestly, folks, I I wasn't looking in this season
of my life. I'm a recovering public servant. I'm you know,
I like, yeah, my kids are becoming adults. I am
grateful for this opportunity, not because I need to make
a mortgage. I want to be here because I think

(43:57):
these issues. I care about these as much as I
ever have. I think the times are tougher now, and
I think the stakes are higher, and I see a
scenario where if we don't if we're not informed and
we're not engaged, if we're not thoughtful, we could lose.
My children won't have the same country where I came
from a very different circumstance with a single mom and
a grandmother and was able to do something in a

(44:18):
country where there is upward mobility that you are self
determination does play a factory. I worry that my kids
and our kids might not have, our grandchildren might not
have that same country. I really, it really weighs on me.
And so if I can be a part of and
if we can have a discussion to get the audience
aware and excited, not depressed. Not everything's doing in gloom,

(44:41):
but oh we we're gonna lean in and we're gonna
tell the truth, and we're gonna tell you how to
laugh instead of crying.

Speaker 1 (44:47):
Yeah, and you know in this what we talked about
yesterday that night, angle you can share an opinion Greg
and still be nice. Yeah, I mean people are afraid, Well,
if I share my opinion, people will be offended by
it and they won't talk to me anymore. And I'll
lose friends. No, no, no, If you lose friends because
you shared an opinion, then you got bad friends. In
my opinion, friends allow you to share your opigion. And

(45:09):
I look at this show. It's two guys in a
bar just talking about life in general every day. Well,
now the bar is probably like an ice cream bar
because neither one of us drink at least.

Speaker 2 (45:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (45:19):
No, I don't know about you, but I don't.

Speaker 5 (45:21):
Don't be chuggy, can't be looking at me like that. No,
I don't. But you know this, swigs, it's a lot.
We are sitting at the swig.

Speaker 1 (45:28):
Yeah, we're sitting at the Swig and we're having one
of those lemon flavored dirty diet cokes, which I normally get, by.

Speaker 5 (45:33):
The way, So we when we were in Milwaukee for
the week for the national convention. I have received so
much positive feedback in terms of, uh, the interviews we're
able to have and have people sit down and talk
about the convention and maybe open it up more than
what maybe the television broadcast we're showing. Just a ton
of positive feedback. One of the things I heard about you,
Rod is that our working together us co hosting together,

(45:57):
people learn a little bit more about Rod Arquette. You're
you are a very selfless radio host where you really
focus on guests on issues, and you really don't left
to your own devices. You might not delve into your
own experiences, but when we speak, when we talk, people
get to know the rod Our kit, the real rod
Our kit. And they I've heard that over and over
again that it's been fun to get to know Rod

(46:20):
through the through Wingman Wednesday, just because we do have
these conversations.

Speaker 1 (46:23):
That's because you make me so mad. I have to
protect myself.

Speaker 5 (46:27):
You know, anybody that doesn't like journeys there has.

Speaker 1 (46:30):
To be Now let me tell you, what, are you
good to sit for an hour? I sure, am, yeah, yeah,
We'll do an hour of this, all right, because I
want to. I want to get people's phone calls, but
I don't if you're setting in on a focus group,
I have not. Focus groups are fascinating and I've done it, broadcaster.
You used to do them all the time. So what
a focus groups does does if you've never been involved

(46:52):
in one, is they select ten or fifteen people from
a cross section of their listening audience. They sit them
down with a moderator and sitting behind behind in a
mirrored glass window are people who are involved in the product,
you know, doing the radio station. So you ask people
about how they listen to the station, what they like,
and what they don't like. And I've sat in one,

(47:13):
I've sad in several of these, and your name comes
up and the monero say, well, what do you think
of rod arkat? And you have to sit there and
just I had not see this in the scope of work.

Speaker 5 (47:24):
Now is just coming my way out.

Speaker 2 (47:28):
Now.

Speaker 1 (47:28):
I sat in one one day and I was in
a focus group and my boss said, whispered into the
moderator's ear, ask him about rod Ark all right, So
they did, and you know what the guy said, His
ties too tight. His tie is too tight, That's what
he said. So we're going to do a focus group

(47:49):
on the Rotten Gregg Show, even though we haven't kicked
it off as of yet, but one here and see
in the coming weeks and months and years of the
Rotten Gregg Show. Are you ready? I gotta have a
tough skin for this man.

Speaker 5 (48:02):
Okay, I got I got leather skin. Okay, again, I've
been in the arena, I got I got, I got
political scars all over my body. I'm ready to go
number eight eight eight five seven zero eight zero one
zero eight eight eight five seven zero eight zero one
zero And tell us what you you're you're a focus group.

Speaker 1 (48:21):
Yeah, you're focused.

Speaker 5 (48:22):
Feel comfortable with that. I love this audience. Hey, this
kid's gonna like me.

Speaker 1 (48:25):
I could talk all right. Eight eight eight five seven
o eight zero one zero. Arou on your cell phone
just ale pound two fifty and say hey, rod We
announced today that the rodarketch always going bye bye. As
of today seven o'clock tonight, it will be done and
starting on Monday.

Speaker 5 (48:40):
Fourteen years.

Speaker 1 (48:41):
Yeah, fourteen years.

Speaker 5 (48:42):
That's a long time.

Speaker 1 (48:43):
Do you know how long I've been? No, I'm not
going to say I've been in this business a long time.
But uh, we thought we'd do a focus group today,
an on air focus group about what you think about
this idea and what we need to address and talk
about for you to enjoy each and every day.

Speaker 5 (48:58):
Yes, and I'm ready to take copious you. I am
ready to go. I have the paper and pen in
front of me.

Speaker 1 (49:04):
You know, I'm afraid to do this because, man, the
calls are coming in and I know they may not
like short. What if they all say we hate this idea,
I know that's it's a little intimidated. It is awesome
to me. All right, let's go to the phones. We
begin in Murray with Mike on Thank Rod and Greg.
It's Friday. How are you and Mike? Thanks for joining us?

Speaker 11 (49:22):
Good Hey Rod, I just want to say you're a
great captain of the ship so many years. I really
appreciated your show and stuff, and I hope in the
new contract you have a clause for at least fifty
the airplane because we know Greg.

Speaker 9 (49:38):
Oh, hey, you guys are.

Speaker 11 (49:39):
Going to do great much like going forward.

Speaker 1 (49:42):
Appreciate it, all right, Mike, thank you. You know he's right.
I do not have that in my contract. But mikey
gave me an idea.

Speaker 5 (49:47):
This might know my wife Queen Bee, because I think
Queen Bee Chris has said the same thing to me.
She's like, you know what you just very you know
pace yourself?

Speaker 1 (49:55):
Shut up. Well, Mike is you've got like six red
bulls in front of.

Speaker 5 (49:58):
You right now, one's mine. I brought you you want?

Speaker 1 (50:00):
Yeah, thank you? Thank you. All right, Back to the phones,
we go, uh here on the uh soon to be
Rod and Greg show, Let's go to Tom and Pleasant
Grove tonight. Tom, how are you? Thanks you? Thanks so
much for joining us tonight.

Speaker 12 (50:12):
Hey boys, Hey boys. I love the idea, but I
think it needs to be our Cat and Hughes to
reflect the powerhouse duo.

Speaker 9 (50:22):
That you'll be.

Speaker 12 (50:25):
And also Rod, I just remind you, you know, this
is how Kamala took Joe out.

Speaker 5 (50:30):
So that is Tom.

Speaker 1 (50:35):
You know, Tom, thanks for that warning. I didn't even
think about that. You know, he may push me out
thinking I'm old and can't remember anything anymore. Yeah, you're removed.

Speaker 5 (50:43):
He's leaving now now Tom is just totally Tom is
taking a playbook and just throw it right out there
for public.

Speaker 1 (50:50):
Den Now, now I know what you're up to. What
about ur Ka and Hughes like our Kit and Hughes
sounds like a law firm.

Speaker 5 (50:58):
Yeah, we don't want to be known as low you'r's
doing boring all right?

Speaker 1 (51:04):
And back to the pond. Now this is somebody you know,
so he's probably got some dirt on you. But what
we want to welcome Mike Noel Farmer, lawmaker from KNAB,
wants to weigh in on this new Rod and Greg show.
Mike how are you welcome to the show, Mike.

Speaker 2 (51:18):
Hey, I'm doing great. Rod. It's I just wanted to
give the Southern Utah perspective here. When Greg was running
for speaker, I got him down here to kind of
help him go a little farming with me. And basically
he's an idiot. He doesn't know anything about farming.

Speaker 5 (51:38):
He ye, I learned a little bit, former representive might Noel? Yeah,
I mean, are you talking to me how to be
a rancher a little bit?

Speaker 2 (51:44):
At least?

Speaker 5 (51:45):
I like the four wheeler?

Speaker 2 (51:46):
Yeah yeah, yeah. But Rod, since you tied in with
him the ranch and the cows and case of zombie apocalypse, today,
you guys can come down here and we'll have beef
for you. I beat morning. You have to break the
ice up trots in the morning at four am.

Speaker 1 (52:03):
But we can do than that.

Speaker 2 (52:05):
You'll be safe, was Mike.

Speaker 1 (52:07):
Was he a good farmer? Did he learn anything?

Speaker 2 (52:09):
Mike? He?

Speaker 5 (52:10):
Actually, I caught those cows that broke into your hay
and were eating it and they weren't allowed. Remember I
caught them. I caught them. I chased them right out
of there. They were totally being fat and everything.

Speaker 2 (52:22):
He was. He was a really good sport and he
won the rural boat. In fact, he won the real
boat when he when he ran against uh Spencer Cox.
He did really well. But hey, I'm excited for this.
This is what we need here. You talked about my
old buddy Rush Limbaugh. I loved that guy. I missed
him still, but you guys have really filled in a

(52:42):
spot that we need in Utah. So good luck to
both of you. And Greg is actually my adopted son,
so you know, he called me Pops, and he just
really good. He's just a really good man. I love
him and love his wife and his family, and thanks
a lot for tying in with him. He just keep
an eye on him.

Speaker 1 (53:00):
Oh, I will, Mike, I will. I'm not letting him
get away with anything. Mike. Mike Doell, former state lawmaker
from Canab All right, this focus group has gone fairly
well so far, wouldn't you think, I mean, people are
very complimentary, excited about what we're doing.

Speaker 5 (53:13):
I thought, I thought, Mike's I thought all the observations
have been been powerful and I but I hadn't really
put the whole kamala, the Biden kamala.

Speaker 1 (53:22):
You're you're trying to take me it wasn't, but you
know I'm suspicious. Now all right, let's go to your line,
dog face, pony soldiers, Let's go to Jay and Corin
tonight here on talk radio one oh five nine canter Rest.
We got a fa Yeah, I guess we could call
it Thank Rod and Greg Is Friday. We can get
away with that, all right, Jay, how are you? Thanks
for joining us?

Speaker 2 (53:42):
Good?

Speaker 1 (53:43):
How are you tonight?

Speaker 2 (53:43):
Well?

Speaker 1 (53:44):
Thank you?

Speaker 13 (53:45):
You know when you when you said you were retiring,
I kind of got choked up a little bit.

Speaker 2 (53:50):
I'm grown man.

Speaker 14 (53:52):
Hi.

Speaker 5 (53:54):
Yeah, me too.

Speaker 2 (53:56):
Man, you're telling me you're retiring.

Speaker 1 (53:59):
No, I'm hanging around.

Speaker 2 (54:02):
Why didn't you.

Speaker 13 (54:03):
Call it wing nut Wednesday?

Speaker 2 (54:05):
Oh?

Speaker 5 (54:06):
Jay, Jay? Because I'm supposed to be goose. I'm supposed
to be a fighter pilot.

Speaker 1 (54:13):
You know, Jay, you gave me an I Yeah, you know, Jay,
you gave me an idea. We may have to come
up with a segment for him, and we'll just call
it wing nut Greg No, and let him a territory minutes,
just to just to prove to all of us that
he just started.

Speaker 5 (54:27):
Jay j J had a larger point, didn't he did he?

Speaker 2 (54:31):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (54:31):
He wanted to get away from that didn't he.

Speaker 1 (54:33):
No, he didn't have a larger point. All right, Jay, thank you.
All right, let's get to another call before we break.
Let's go to Zaane in Ogden tonight here on the
Rod Our Cat Show soon to be The Rod and
Greg Show. Hi, Zane, how are you?

Speaker 15 (54:46):
I'm doing good?

Speaker 9 (54:46):
You guys are you well?

Speaker 1 (54:47):
Thank you?

Speaker 2 (54:50):
Awesome?

Speaker 16 (54:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 15 (54:50):
I've been listening to can r s for about two
years now, and Monday, Tuesday, Thursday, Friday. My favorite show
has always been Clay and Buck, but Wednesdays the Wingman Wednesday.
I love the two of you, the duo you guys
are so I'm super excited for it. It might take
a little time away from my wife, so not sure
how she'll feel about that, but you know it's it's

(55:12):
worth it. You guys are awesome.

Speaker 1 (55:13):
Well, let me tell you what, Zane. Flowers and candy
always work. Shall we send them to your wife and
just say, you know what do you think?

Speaker 10 (55:21):
Oh?

Speaker 15 (55:22):
Yeah, yeah, definitely if you guys send her, especially candy flowers.
She likes flowers on occasion, but candy that's the way
to her heart. So yeah, sendersy candy.

Speaker 2 (55:30):
All right.

Speaker 1 (55:31):
See that's very kind.

Speaker 5 (55:32):
Sane. Thank you. That's hey, look he loves he loves
the clam Buck Show, so do why But on Wingman
Wednesday's it's been a it's been a highlight. So that's
that's a high praise. Thank you, Zaane.

Speaker 1 (55:41):
All Right, more coming up on the focus group on
the Rodd and Greg Show, premiering Monday here on Talk
Radio one oh five nine k n RS.

Speaker 5 (55:48):
I noticed that E Ray is prepared for this because
loaded up. I love my Joe Pesci.

Speaker 1 (55:53):
Well, you know why we do the Joe Pesci things.

Speaker 5 (55:55):
Because because you think I sound like Joe Peschie.

Speaker 1 (55:57):
You do sound like Joe Pesci.

Speaker 5 (55:59):
I you know, I don't. Maybe we'll take it.

Speaker 1 (56:04):
Is he Joe Pesci or is he Kermit the Frog?

Speaker 5 (56:07):
This has gone the wrong way. By the way, none
of this is coming from our focus group. This is
all coming from you.

Speaker 1 (56:11):
Yeah, that's true. All right, let's go to our focus group.
Like I said, we're doing an on air focus group
on Monday. We'll introduce the Rotten Greg Show, three hours
a day of common sense, fair minded radio, ready to
solve the nation's problems, and we want to get your
feedback on it. What do we need to do? What
are your thoughts on this. So far, it's been positive.
We haven't run into a negative yet, but you know

(56:32):
they're coming. There's got to be somebody out there who's
gonna let us have it. We won't let them on
the air. Eight eight seven zero one zero. Let's go
back to the phone. We have a name that's very
familiar to this show, and we both know them well. Yes,
Clark Composion is joining us on. Thank Rod and Greg.
It's Friday. Clark, how are you welcome to the show.

Speaker 13 (56:54):
Well, I'm fantastic sitting in the parking lot with ac
on and I got a I got a couple of
questions for yet. First off, well one, I think it'll
be a great idea because every time one of you
messes up, then you can cover for the other one.
And because because Rod I got to tell you called
Burgess Owen Burgess Meredith.

Speaker 2 (57:12):
I know Clark.

Speaker 5 (57:15):
I caught him on that one too. I got that
we're uncommented.

Speaker 1 (57:23):
Clark, Clark. We're looking for positive things that you'd say,
not the negative.

Speaker 13 (57:28):
Here, Well, this is this is this is neither here
nor there. Then who is it going to be a
co equal relationship or is there going to be a
senior partner.

Speaker 2 (57:37):
Well.

Speaker 13 (57:39):
And the way to tell that is the.

Speaker 14 (57:40):
Way to tell that is right now.

Speaker 13 (57:42):
If this is the first day, Greg, are you sitting
where you can see the monitors? Or is Rod sitting
where he can see the monitors?

Speaker 5 (57:49):
Clark? These are very good questions. And he is seeing
he can see the monitors, and he is he is
in the captain's chair. And I and I would expect
as much when you've been in media, uh for one
one hundred and three years. I think it is before.
I mean, I don't even know how they're broadcasting when
Rod started, but a year just hearing the stripes, I'm
just here to learn. I'm just you know, he's the master.
I'll give it to him.

Speaker 13 (58:10):
Funny because because because on our show on Bill Patterson
knows the board way better than I do out and
how to do all those buttons in that.

Speaker 1 (58:18):
But I still don't let him sit there, Clark, what
do you got coming up on the show tomorrow while
we've got you here?

Speaker 5 (58:25):
Yeah, what's what's tomorrows show about?

Speaker 17 (58:27):
Hey?

Speaker 9 (58:28):
We have New York Times.

Speaker 13 (58:30):
You know him New York Times Number one New York
Times bestseller. Brad Thorpe on Wow, book Shadow of Doubt,
and uh yeah, then a number twenty four in the
number two Trump.

Speaker 5 (58:42):
Now, he didn't like Trump for a while ago, but
I hopefully he's come around on Trump.

Speaker 10 (58:45):
You know.

Speaker 13 (58:45):
It's true. That's true, that's true. Written hows just finally
got on board with Trump as well too. So anyway, yeah,
that's the big eie, that's the big eie.

Speaker 1 (58:56):
All right, Clark, Well, thanks for sharing, hey, sharing your
insight and yes, yeah, all right, all right, clerk, thank you.
And I did call Burgess once Burgess Meredith.

Speaker 5 (59:06):
Yeah, did I did I bring it up on the air?
I know I did not?

Speaker 1 (59:13):
I was did No, you brought it up on the air?

Speaker 5 (59:15):
I did not?

Speaker 1 (59:16):
You did too? Maybe I did, yes, But Burgess has
never said anything.

Speaker 5 (59:23):
Yeah, he's too nice.

Speaker 1 (59:23):
Burgess is a nice man.

Speaker 5 (59:25):
See, we're not. We can't be we can't be that nice.
We have to be a little We have to. It's
tough love over here.

Speaker 1 (59:30):
To love. Yeah, you gotta have thick skin to walk
into this room.

Speaker 5 (59:33):
It's true.

Speaker 1 (59:34):
And that's that's a warning to any guests that we
may have in the future. Have a thick skin, yep.

Speaker 5 (59:39):
And we don't suffer fools lightly. But we don't. Yeah,
we don't have to deal with that much. We haven't
had too many problems. Our listeners are all super insightful.
In fact, if we don't have enough listeners on, I have,
like I say, Queen Bee Christa, she's she knows her
her commentary and she'll say, you know you need a listener.
Could listeners add so much to the program?

Speaker 1 (59:56):
Eight eight eight five seven eight zero one zero on
your cell phone, I'll pound two fifty and say, hey, Rod,
back to the phones we go. Let's go to uh
Clinton and talk with Robert tonight here on thank Rod
and Greg gets Friday. Hi, Robert, how are you.

Speaker 2 (01:00:11):
Good?

Speaker 18 (01:00:12):
I just wanted to call and say At first, I
when I heard there was going to be some news Rod,
I was a little worried, a little worried you were
going to retire, but happy to hear about the news show.
And I gotta say about citizen Hughes. Now, I think
the jury was out a little bit, mister hughes on
you until you said that we were the smartest listening

(01:00:34):
audience in all the country. Yes, so welcome, Welcome to
the audience family, mister Hughes, happy to be here.

Speaker 5 (01:00:41):
Robert thank you, thank you.

Speaker 2 (01:00:43):
Thanks.

Speaker 1 (01:00:43):
He's kissing up to you.

Speaker 5 (01:00:45):
No, he's nice.

Speaker 1 (01:00:45):
Tell me true, he's kissing up.

Speaker 5 (01:00:46):
He said the jury was out, but I'm telling you
it is the smartest listening audience. There was a Jeopardy
show that took that they'd win, that would put the
radio audiences against Jerry. Oh yeah, our audience would win
all of it.

Speaker 1 (01:00:58):
They'd win all right. Back to the phones we go.
Let's go to uh Dion, who is in provo tonight?
Here on? Thank Rod and Greg. It's Friday, Hi Deon,
how are you?

Speaker 2 (01:01:09):
I'm good?

Speaker 16 (01:01:10):
Thanks, It's been a little while since according to the
show there Rod, but this is my first time calling
in with uh. With Greg being then, I just want
to say that man, I'm really excited to have the
new Rowdy Rod and Heavy Team radio show. What do
you think of that?

Speaker 1 (01:01:25):
I like that Rowdy Rod and what was the other
part of it?

Speaker 2 (01:01:29):
Dion?

Speaker 16 (01:01:30):
Heavy G heavy heavy G?

Speaker 5 (01:01:34):
Yeah? Is that Australian accent? I here Dion?

Speaker 16 (01:01:38):
Now it's the New Zealand next and now I meet
you uh, Greg and London back in twenty twenty. Yeah,
may at what is it? Vineyard by the Cinema? Picked
say when we had a big.

Speaker 5 (01:01:51):
Huge Oh yeah, that was the that was the first. Yeah,
that was supporting businesses after COVID. I remember that. Yeah,
it's good to hear for you.

Speaker 1 (01:01:58):
Deon's nice guy. Doesn't sound like he's from these parts.
Maybe he is.

Speaker 5 (01:02:02):
No, I love that rowdy Rod like that heavy?

Speaker 1 (01:02:07):
Alright, you like that, don't you? Mike in Salt Lake
City tonight on thank Rod and greg Is Friday. Hi, Mike,
how are you.

Speaker 10 (01:02:15):
Hi.

Speaker 2 (01:02:15):
I'm very disappointed in the two of you.

Speaker 19 (01:02:17):
Oh, No, very disappointed.

Speaker 2 (01:02:20):
I was always looked forward to wing Man Wednesday. Now
there's nothing to look forward to. It's just going to
be the same.

Speaker 5 (01:02:27):
It's times. It was one, now it's it's five five times.

Speaker 1 (01:02:31):
Yiing it five days a week. I don't know if
you can handle it, but.

Speaker 2 (01:02:34):
That's what's going nothing nothing to look forward to day.

Speaker 1 (01:02:40):
Oh, that's one way to look at it. That's Mike's disappointed.
You know what that means. We're gonna have to deliver
every day.

Speaker 5 (01:02:48):
Oh I'm I'm I'm ready to go.

Speaker 1 (01:02:50):
We're gonna have to deliver every day.

Speaker 2 (01:02:51):
Man.

Speaker 5 (01:02:52):
So even starting the show and I'm sitting here, red
bull in hand, ready to go, right, now Friday, I'm
ready here, I'm here.

Speaker 1 (01:02:58):
You're wound up, all right. More of your calls coming
up on Thank Rodding greg Is Friday.

Speaker 5 (01:03:02):
The focus group eighty audience Focus.

Speaker 1 (01:03:04):
Group eight eight eight five seven eight zero one zero
eight eight eight five seven eight zero one zero or
on your cell phone just Ale Pound two fifteen. We'll
get to more of your called.

Speaker 5 (01:03:13):
And you saw you saw Beastie Boys come out and
aped a little bit of rock with a little bit
of rap. But I thought that that that Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:03:21):
Who who Steve Tyler?

Speaker 5 (01:03:23):
No, the group are aerostrass. Okay, just how you just
had a Biden you just started moment. I had a
Biden moment.

Speaker 1 (01:03:29):
Will you record that Aero Smith will now on that
he does not be on this show when he had
a Biden moment?

Speaker 5 (01:03:34):
Yeah, I want to know they're not very often, Okay,
but I be careful about Biden.

Speaker 1 (01:03:39):
You are getting older.

Speaker 5 (01:03:40):
But for because run DMC had had quite a following
in the in the wrap side, but for them to
cross over like that, that was that was new music.

Speaker 2 (01:03:48):
Man.

Speaker 5 (01:03:48):
That was really good.

Speaker 1 (01:03:49):
It was It was interesting. All right, we're doing as
we announced today. Uh the rod Arqutcher as of seven
o'clock tonight will be sent to the Center for Broadcast Excellence. Yes,
we packed it up rightly, go in the archives and
starting on Monday, I'm not going anywhere, but I'm going
to have a cohost.

Speaker 10 (01:04:06):
You.

Speaker 1 (01:04:07):
I know, you say, that's how long it took us
to figure out this contract for you. I take you.
You are a tough customer.

Speaker 5 (01:04:15):
You know what this was. This has been long in
the making. But I'm so excited.

Speaker 1 (01:04:19):
You know, you want a fresh chef in here every afternoon.

Speaker 5 (01:04:22):
I just want to know when does the driver come
and pick you up in the morning.

Speaker 1 (01:04:25):
Up in the morning. You'll be there by.

Speaker 5 (01:04:27):
But I like red Eminem's. Yeah, I'm Republicans. I like
only red Eminem's.

Speaker 1 (01:04:31):
We're going to have a big tank in here with
nothing but red bull.

Speaker 2 (01:04:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 17 (01:04:34):
Well we shouldn't have to put up with this kind
of stuffy.

Speaker 5 (01:04:37):
So yes, we need it. Probably like it. Yes, those
are things I'm sure that my Once you're the talent,
there's like a list of things that you get to demand, right,
isn't that how it works?

Speaker 1 (01:04:48):
Try it. Let's go back to the phones, because we're
doing a focus group, but because it is Thank Rod
is Friday, and we'll add Greg to that mix as well.
We talk about issues as well. So let's go to
the phones. Let's start with Michael im provo tonight. Michael,
how are you welcome to the show.

Speaker 2 (01:05:06):
I'm good, Rod, thanks for taking the car.

Speaker 17 (01:05:07):
I got a question for you guys that you might
not want to answer, but I'll ask it anyway. Let's say,
because it has to do with men and women's sports,
which is kind of a topic that the Olympics going
on and controversy there. Let's say take the winner of
the WNBA championship. All right, okay, best women's basketball team

(01:05:29):
in the country, and then you put together an all
star team of high school boys from the state of California.
You got the whole state of California to choose from.
You pick a team of about ten or twelve kids,
and they practice for about a month and a half.

(01:05:50):
They use the women's ball, which is a little bit
smaller than the men's ball, and then they play best
of three. Who's going to win?

Speaker 1 (01:05:57):
I had the boys?

Speaker 5 (01:05:58):
Do I actually think that w n b A they're
out of college. I think that the age I think
they would win. But I think that's but I think
that's the point. They would. They would beat high school kids, yea,
even all stars out of Cali. I would still. I mean,
if you think they'd win, that's about the only scenario
that I think they could beat a team.

Speaker 1 (01:06:14):
You had that example in soccer where the US women's
soccer team played a boy a team of boys from
Dallas and and the boys cleaned their clock?

Speaker 5 (01:06:21):
Did they really? You didn't hear that, Michael, you might
do this show.

Speaker 1 (01:06:25):
You got to be better than four.

Speaker 5 (01:06:26):
Well, you know, I don't follow soccer like you. I'm
not a euro guy. I don't want to follow the
whole soccer deal. But honestly, the w NBA champs, I mean,
have you ever heard was it Serena Williams that said
There's no way I could play against the guys.

Speaker 1 (01:06:40):
Wronger and faster? Michael, good point. Let's go to Tim,
who's been waiting very patiently in provo tonight. Tim, how
are you welcome to the show.

Speaker 14 (01:06:49):
Thank you?

Speaker 20 (01:06:50):
I'm doing great good And yes I have seen Aarrol
Smith a few times. Nice, Well, I'm.

Speaker 14 (01:06:57):
An eighty three Pellets and.

Speaker 20 (01:06:59):
Then a few years later in Bakersfield, California, and I
think you guys getting together is a great idea because
I had a feeling this was going to happen. And
in today's economy, it's nice to know that citizen and
Jews has a full time job.

Speaker 13 (01:07:16):
You know what.

Speaker 5 (01:07:16):
I thank you for the observation. I've had other people say, Look,
you're gamefully employed.

Speaker 1 (01:07:20):
Can first time in your life, isn't it.

Speaker 5 (01:07:23):
Yeah, I'm working for the man. That's what I'm doing now.

Speaker 2 (01:07:27):
All right.

Speaker 20 (01:07:28):
Well, I'm glad you're both there because I wanted to
just tell you about my experience at the Trump rally
in Pennsylvania.

Speaker 1 (01:07:35):
Where the assassination attempt took place. Wow, tell us please
in County.

Speaker 20 (01:07:40):
Oh yeah, I worked there. I was there when the
shooting happened. I was right up front, and when the
shooting started, I was sentricked out.

Speaker 9 (01:07:46):
I yelled, nicky.

Speaker 20 (01:07:48):
Nice when what I meant to say was Donald Duck.

Speaker 5 (01:07:56):
You had me going there.

Speaker 1 (01:07:57):
You know that that bad joke made ban you from
this show. Just want to let you know that.

Speaker 20 (01:08:02):
Well you said part of the show with laughter. I
thought it would make somebody.

Speaker 5 (01:08:09):
I was a little slow on the uptake, but I was, Yeah,
that's that's a good one.

Speaker 1 (01:08:12):
It's our age. We're getting slow on the uptate.

Speaker 5 (01:08:14):
I'm just going to go back to the yous I R.
Smith Live in eighty three. I think that's that's some
serious bragging rights right there. I don't I I didn't,
but I but I love Aerosmith.

Speaker 1 (01:08:24):
Yeah, best concert you ever saw? Real quick?

Speaker 17 (01:08:26):
Uh?

Speaker 5 (01:08:27):
The best concert? Oh, I don't know about best.

Speaker 1 (01:08:32):
Or one of the top.

Speaker 5 (01:08:33):
Well, heart is easy top and who you listen to news?

Speaker 1 (01:08:37):
Okay?

Speaker 5 (01:08:38):
I mean, does that is that a chilt of the
eighties or what I saw?

Speaker 1 (01:08:40):
Springsteen in Vegas put on a great show?

Speaker 5 (01:08:42):
Oh, there you go.

Speaker 1 (01:08:43):
After after nine eleven he came up with that great
album and he was in Vegas and it was it
was a great concert.

Speaker 5 (01:08:49):
Yeah, so see, I like that.

Speaker 1 (01:08:52):
You know, we can't agree on much, but and certainly
not on music and definitely not on sports teams. Let's
get in one more.

Speaker 5 (01:09:00):
You're a Steeler fan, Okay.

Speaker 1 (01:09:02):
All right, all right, Jim. We've only got about thirty seconds, Jim,
so go ahead with your comment.

Speaker 19 (01:09:09):
Yeah, the boys high school team would clean the clock
of the women's w NBA All Star team. When the
when the woman, when the woman set the record in
high school or the the world record there were I

(01:09:29):
think fifteen kids in high school that ran faster than
what she did.

Speaker 1 (01:09:35):
Wow, I didn't know that. It's gonna be interesting to
see what I like.

Speaker 5 (01:09:38):
I like Jim's perspective there because I had no idea,
but that because I would. I would say that the
w NBA Champs, the best they would do in terms
of playing boys would be high school kids. But even then,
I think Jim brings up a good point about record
and everything else.

Speaker 1 (01:09:51):
The twenty twenty four election is now less than what
ninety seven ninety eight lost count of the days, but
it's getting closer each and every day, a lot of
questions being aged about what is going to happen. Twenty
twenty was just a crazy election year. There were questions
about the voting regulations, questions about the vote county itself,
what was going on around the country before the election.

(01:10:12):
You had the Hunter Biden's story which came up and
the media didn't pay attention to it. Well, guess who's
added again? It looks like the FBI is added again.
Joining us on our news make alignment with the latest
on that is Brianna Lyman. She is the elections correspondent
for the Federalist, Brianna, thank you very much for joining
us tonight. Your story today in The Federalist says, FBI

(01:10:34):
ramps up censorship efforts ahead of the twenty twenty four election. Brand,
exactly what is the FBI up to this time?

Speaker 10 (01:10:41):
Yeah, they're trying to do a repeat of their twenty
twenty efforts. So basically, this memo came out and it
says that the FBI is going to be working as
big tech to keep an eye off for quote, foreign
malign influence. They're probably like, what does that mean? Well,
if this was twenty twenty, that might mean Hunter Biden's
very real laptop that wasn't foreign election interference. But we

(01:11:01):
were told by the FBI, which is now supposed to
be trusted four years later to tell us what is
actually foreign the line interference. That would be a good example.

Speaker 1 (01:11:11):
Brandon, could almost anything be classified as FMI.

Speaker 10 (01:11:14):
Yeah, as long as you have you know, fifty one
intelligence officials who know their stuff, and you know, sign
on to a our official letter, then anything works.

Speaker 1 (01:11:21):
What exactly did the FBI do on the Hunter laptop story?
Refresh people's memory if you would.

Speaker 10 (01:11:27):
Yeah, So the FBI they had authenticated this laptop. They
knew about it as early as I think it was
November of twenty nineteen. That's a full year. And then
what happened is the New York Post breaks the story,
and the FBI moments or not moments, but you know,
days weeks before this story drops, goes around to Facebook, Twitter,
other social media companies and says, hey, there's going to

(01:11:48):
be a dump of foreign election material. And so when
this Hunter Biden story dropped, in conjunction with that, you know,
fifty one intelligence officials letter, you had people like Mark
Zuckerberg later admit that he immediately began throttling the reach
of the story because he thought that it was the
foreign interference that the FBI had warned him about.

Speaker 1 (01:12:07):
Brandon, Now I understand the has the Supreme Court now
stepped in and said it's okay for the FBI to
work with big tech and in censoring some of this material,
as the Supreme Court said it's okay.

Speaker 10 (01:12:19):
Essentially yeah, and this is the Murchy versus Missouri decision
back in June is one of the most egregious decisions
to come out of the Supreme Court because it isn't
upfront to the first Amendment and Amy Cony Barrett authored
the decision, and she argued that the plaintiffs, who was Missouri, Louisiana,
and there were other people who signed on, they said
they didn't have any standings. But I would argue that

(01:12:41):
everyone has standing when the government was working in cahous
with big text to censor entirely true and protective First
Amendment speech, and so now with this ruling, they essentially
have the green light to continue their efforts unfettered. Was
just weeks to go before the election.

Speaker 1 (01:12:58):
Branda give us a scenario in which they could step
in again claiming this is FMI information and how it
could impact the twenty twenty four election. What do you
What kind of dangerous doors does this open?

Speaker 2 (01:13:11):
Now?

Speaker 10 (01:13:12):
Oh God, there is literally an endless amount of possibilities
for news that could be entirely true. Let's say, for instance,
there was something I came out about whether or not
the Biden administration struck a shady deal with Iran to
unfreeze all of their money. And let's say it was
entirely true. Well, you won't really know that because the
FBI could possibly label it as you know, foreign align influence,

(01:13:34):
and people would then be essentially taught to look at
that kind of report with a skeptical eye. And when
you're skeptical of something from the get go, you never
I don't think you ever could come to the point
where you believe it, even if the person themselves said no,
this is true, like I did it. And so that's
the risk we run. And this goes hand in hand
with other government censorship operations. So there's SIZA, which is

(01:13:55):
the nerve center of government censorship, and they're also doing
their own work to try and censor any information that
they deem to be harmful to elections or you know,
mis or disinformation.

Speaker 1 (01:14:06):
With the current power structure set up the way it
is and the Democrats and the Biden administration controlling government,
they can work with the FBI. Could the Trump campaign
work with the FBI if they something, if they see
something they're concerned about at all? I mean? Or is
this strictly up to the party that's in power.

Speaker 10 (01:14:23):
From my understanding, it's just the party that's in power.
And this is also the same FBI that's conveniently led
in assassin and nearly murdered Donald Trump. So I highly
doubt they would take anything the Trump campaign says with
you know, more than a grain of salt. That being said,
the FBI and the social media companies and other government
agencies aside from just the Hunter byde laptop, Remember, they

(01:14:45):
were censoring true information or information that they disliked about COVID,
right about vaccine narratives, about lockdown policies. And the White
House is working with these companies to take those types
of posts down.

Speaker 1 (01:14:58):
Brandon, how will the voter and the general republic know
this is going on? Is there any way in which
we'll be able to find this information out if in
fact it does take place?

Speaker 10 (01:15:06):
Well, I think it's a matter of one. Obviously, don't
go to you know, mainstream media.

Speaker 21 (01:15:12):
You know, the Federalist is the great site.

Speaker 10 (01:15:14):
Your radio station's a great site because we're willing to
call out, you know what's happening. And I think, should
we see another Hunter Biden esque effort, you know in
the week's leading f the election. Americans should just have
that incumbency to think back and say, hmm, what's that?
I think when the Hunter Biden laptop dropped, and then think, well, actually,
the FBI now entered the Hunter Bydon laptop as evidence

(01:15:36):
against Hunter Biden, so like they clearly lie to me.
So I shouldn't trust the FBI more than I trust
or distrust the report that has come out.

Speaker 1 (01:15:43):
On our Newsmaker line, Brianda Lyman, the elections correspondent with
the Federalist, talking about what the FBI is up to
as we get closer and closer to the twenty twenty
four election. More coming up right here on the Rod
Arc Can't Show and Utah's Talk Radio one oh five
nine knrs. You know, the conventional wisdom of the American
political system holds that Republicans represent the rich. Democrats, by contrast,

(01:16:08):
are said to represent the little guy, including blue collar
workers and low income minorities. Now, the most interesting thing
about this is that Donald Trump has now kind of
turned that around. So maybe this is a good time
to ask that question. Why do people vote the way
they do well? Joining us on our Newsmaker line from
town Hall is John Goodman. John's always great to have

(01:16:28):
on the show. John, you wrote about this. Let me
ask you this one question, Why do people vote, John
the way they do well?

Speaker 6 (01:16:35):
I was most interested in why it is that high income,
highly educated people vote for liberal Democrats for office, because
that would seem to be against their own interests. But
about half of high income people do vote for liberal politicians.

Speaker 1 (01:16:52):
And why is that, John, I mean, liberal politicians could
impact their monthly budget. Why do they do that?

Speaker 6 (01:17:00):
We know when I lived in California, I had a
friend in Marion County who lived around a lot of
rich people, and I said, why do they vote for Democrats?
And he said, well, they feel guilty. And I've heard
that explanation many times through the years. But they begin
to look into it more carefully, I realized, no, no,
they don't feel guilty. Well, they may feel guilty, but
that's not the reason. The real reason. The real reason

(01:17:23):
is that it's in their self interest to vote for
liberal politicians.

Speaker 1 (01:17:27):
How so, how is it in their self injuriest John, Well, if.

Speaker 6 (01:17:31):
You think about most large cities, you have a liberal
Democrat mayor liberal Democrat city council. Let's say, the top
ten percent in terms of income are heavily outnumbered nine
to one when it comes to voting, and yet they
give money to the mayor the city council.

Speaker 1 (01:17:51):
And what are the results.

Speaker 6 (01:17:53):
Well, those folks have a really nice deal in the city.
Their kids go to segregated schoolols mostly white.

Speaker 17 (01:18:01):
Uh.

Speaker 6 (01:18:02):
Their neighborhood is uh, the trash is picked up, it's
police is no no, no safety problem.

Speaker 2 (01:18:08):
Uh.

Speaker 6 (01:18:08):
And they enjoy the that there's no pollution, no, no
air pollution, water pollution. So all the typical problems that
you think of that the current cities are not in
their neighborhood.

Speaker 1 (01:18:22):
John, what about the as you talk about the low
income minority families who live in these large cities which
are governed by uh liberal Democrats, how do they feel
or why do they vote and how do they vote?

Speaker 20 (01:18:35):
Well?

Speaker 6 (01:18:35):
Uh, here it's where I think they pay too much
attention to the rhetoric because the people they vote for
are constantly saying the rich don't pay enough in taxes
and we need to do more for the poor. But
in fact, what happens in just about every large city
you look at, uh the poor families are trapped in
largely segregated schools and uh they're there. They tend to

(01:18:56):
be MINORTI children, children of color, and they don't have
the opportunity to go to better schools. They're trapped because
of housing regulations in their neighborhoods. The city services are
pretty poor. Sometimes their trash isn't picked up, they don't
get the same police services, so their neighborhoods are often unsafe.

(01:19:17):
And that's the way the cities are run all across
the country.

Speaker 1 (01:19:22):
And you call the intersection of these two groups the
liberal plantation. What exactly is that, John.

Speaker 6 (01:19:30):
Welling evoking the image of the old plantation of Sere
one hundred years ago. You have a white elite, mainly white,
and they're getting the best of all worlds, and you
have the great bulk of people who do not have
access to the same benefits.

Speaker 1 (01:19:51):
What about conservatives in the way they vote, John, any
feel for that?

Speaker 2 (01:19:56):
Well?

Speaker 6 (01:19:56):
I think conservatives often do vote in their self enteres.
But there you have the melding of what's in their
self interest but also what fits into their ideological view.

Speaker 2 (01:20:09):
Of the world.

Speaker 1 (01:20:11):
Conservatives, do, you write, John, vote to help fight poverty
by giving people money. You say, Liberals prefer to give
them services. Why the distinction, do you think?

Speaker 6 (01:20:21):
Well, if you think about the Great Society, the War
on poverty, which started in nineteen sixty four under Lyndon Johnson.
Since then, we've spent more than twenty trillion dollars on welfare, poverty, programs,
but almost none of that money actually went to poor people.
The healthcare money, Medicaid money goes to doctors, hospitals, and

(01:20:42):
people in the healthcare industry. The education funds go to
the education establishment. Housing funds go to developers, and so
somebody who's not poor is getting most of the money.
The poor are supposed to benefiting from the services. But
if you look at a pro like Medicaid and you
ask the people what's it worth to them, it's forty

(01:21:06):
cents on the dollar or less, which means if you
said to someone on Medicaid, I'll give you of what
this program really costs in cash, they take the cash
and give up their health insurance, so that these programs
have marshall benefit for poor people, but the actual money
is going to people who are not poor.

Speaker 1 (01:21:27):
Final question for you, John, So I get a sense,
and I hope I'm reading this right, John, that liberal
Democrats tend to vote in the way that makes them
feel good, not so much of the policies. Am I
reading that right? If they feel good, they'll vote in
this direction. If it makes them feel good, makes them
feel less guilty, then they're going to vote in that direction.
Is that fair to say.

Speaker 6 (01:21:48):
Well, the point I'm trying to make, it's close. The
point I'm trying to make is that they're really voting
in their own interests that at the end of the
day of the policies benefit them.

Speaker 2 (01:21:58):
But they like to know that.

Speaker 6 (01:22:00):
They're voting for politicians who say the racharn't pay and
f and tax as, we need to do more for
the poor, and that makes them feel better, so they
can voting their self interest and feel like they're voting
altruistically at the same time.

Speaker 1 (01:22:12):
John Goodman, president of the Goodman Institute, joining us on
our newsmaker line this afternoon talking about how and why
people vote the way they do. Our listen back Friday
segment's coming up next right here on the rod Ar
Kent Show in Utah's Talk radio one oh five nine KNRS.
The Senate has advanced a bill called the Kids Online
Safety Act, Utah sendor Mitt Romney voting in favor of it.

(01:22:36):
Utah Senator Mike Lee voted against it.

Speaker 2 (01:22:38):
Well.

Speaker 1 (01:22:39):
Earlier this week, we had a chance to talk with
Hannah Clark. She is president and co founder of Based Politics,
and I asked Hannah as we began our conversation what
concern she had about the Kids Online Safety Act.

Speaker 10 (01:22:51):
Well, I think, as I've said for many years, Americans
need to pay close attention to the names of bills
and then assume that they do the exact opposite of
whatever that name suggest. So in this case, KOSA is
the Kids Online Safety Act, and as you mentioned, many
senators claim this is something that will make kids more
safe online, but I and many child activist or child

(01:23:11):
welfare activists argue it actually would do the exact opposite
for a number of reasons. First and foremost, one of
the major issues with the bill is that it basically
insists that all social media companies and even companies like
Netflix or others that have user accounts, will be like
data on every single individual that uses them in order

(01:23:33):
to ensure that that individual is of age and or
has parental permission in order to use that app or
that website. But to do that, that means that you
have to hand over a lot of personal data to
these companies and then risk it being hacked by people
who would very much like to get their hands on
the information. What many people are not aware of is

(01:23:54):
that children are actually the number one target for identity
theft in the country as it already stands, and that's
because there's not a lot of oversight. You know, there's
not a lot of people who are checking on those
kids' social numbers or looking to see if any accounts
are being opened in their names. And so what we
find is happening is that kids turn eighteen, they go
to open their first credit card or try to get
a student loan, and all of a sudden they find

(01:24:15):
out their identity has been hacked. There's already been a
lot of pretty serious breaches when it comes to privacy
information on private websites in recent years. We've had a
number of ordeals already. This would just amplify those threats.
So I think that's the person concern that they will
have about this, and I think it's very valid. You know,
there's there's serious privacy issues with that. And then secondarily,

(01:24:36):
and what I think is the far greater concern with
this piece of legislation is it basically gives unelected bureaucrat
in the STC, which is currently run by a very
far left leaning individual, Lena con Carte Blanche, permission to
come in and tell various companies what content they can
have up and which ones they cannot, and if you've
been paying attention to the activities of the FTC and

(01:24:58):
just Congress in general and also the House in recent years,
this is part of an overall push. There's a number
of bills they've been seeking to get passed that would
essentially give the government power over the Internet. And they
have a very vested interest in doing that because they
no longer have the ability to control the narrative as
they used to. You know, when we had two or
three TV channels that people got their information from, got

(01:25:20):
their news from, it was very, very easy for them
to ensure that the reporters and journalists were running the
narratives that they wanted to have run. The Internet ability
for Americans to share information to push back on the
official narrative, as we saw happen, thank god, during the
COVID pandemic, many Americans were able to forcefully push back

(01:25:41):
against many of the edicts that were coming down and
the false information that was coming out during that time period.
That is very inconvenient for people in government. That's why
we saw the Buiden administration behind the scenes working to
pressure platforms like Twitter or Facebook to remove various posts
or users that they didn't want out there. This bill
basically gives the STC the power to do that, you know.

(01:26:02):
And while the Biden administration sort of got away with that,
they were found out, they were sued over that, and
there were some obstacles in place that would prevent them
from doing that again.

Speaker 21 (01:26:12):
This still would essentially get rid of those obstacles because
it has such broad language that it basically says anything
that people at the STC determine could cause anxiety or
health issues for children, they can come.

Speaker 10 (01:26:25):
In and tell them to take down. So that could
be anything from you know, discussions on gun rights, does
that make kids anxious? Discussions on war, could that make
kids anxious? Discussions on any number of issues you know,
that could be politically weaponized in order to insist that
that political speech comes down. So I think it's a
very big attack on the First Amendment. I think that's

(01:26:46):
why you see groups from across the political spectrum, civil
rights activists across you know, both political parties speaking out
against this.

Speaker 5 (01:26:53):
So, Hanna, I have a question because I think that
we're seeing just culturally a sexualization of children of minors
that's so disturbed, and so what does this bill, and
I think I know the answer. What does this do?
What does this build this COASTA bill do to attack
the proliferation of pornography online, pornography being exposed to children.
How does it lock that down? Pornography and children being

(01:27:15):
able to see it.

Speaker 10 (01:27:15):
Yeah, I can't really say that it would, you know.
I think that's one of the trojan horses about this.
I think right now there's very valid concerns people have
about the Internet, and I think parents are right to
pay attention to this.

Speaker 14 (01:27:27):
Certainly, a lot can.

Speaker 10 (01:27:30):
Come upon on these websites, but I think at the
end of the day, parents have not only a responsibility,
but the right to determine what their kids have access to,
what their kids can see, and to be very involved
in those activities. Fortunately, thanks to public pressure, we've seen
a lot of really great tools come on the marketplace,
both that are coming from various websites and apps and

(01:27:50):
also that are coming from third parties that parents can
use in order to have greater supervision. I think the
problem that you would see with this piece of legislation,
the way it's written again and it being so broad,
is that under Saya Biden or Herit's administration, you could
have them using it to take down content from Americans
who are speaking out against some of the issues you

(01:28:11):
mentioned right, who are saying that they are concerned about
identity issues. And then if you had a more concernedive presidency,
perhaps it would go in the other direction. But I
think this is the problem. When you give the government
the power to basically come in and moderate free speech
according to what you want, it's always going to be
weaponized against you as soon as your enemy. Than his
criticisms of this, which I'm glad you pointed out, your

(01:28:33):
Senator Mike Lee and Ran Paul and Senator Ron Wyden
were the three loan senators to vote against this, And
I've said for some time when you see those three
team up, you usually know there's an attack on the
constitution going down, because they're pretty principled on the issues
of free speech and on civil rights in general. And
he pointed out, you know, this doesn't mean that kids
can't get access to any of the harms that we

(01:28:54):
could come up with, whether it be porn, whether it
be drugs, whether it be you know, gambling. They can
turn on TV, they could still access this kind of
information on a multitude of front, and so that's why
I think this bill is very disingenuous. But I really
think we should see happen if we want to ensure
kids are safer online, and I think most people genuinely
do when we're talking about the grass roots, but we

(01:29:15):
should be asking why there's not greater enforcement of crimes online.
We already have many of these things that are criminal.
It's criminal to show children form. Why are these things
when they happen. Why are we not seeing police use
their resources to more effectively go after those kinds of
predators and actually enforce those kinds of penalties. I think
that's something that we absolutely need to be concerned with

(01:29:37):
and just put more attention on. But the solution is
not to again part blanched, to have unelected bureaucrats control
over free speech online, or to insist that all Americans
hand over their data privacy and put themselves at risk
for hackers.

Speaker 1 (01:29:50):
As part of our Listen Back Friday segments, Hannah Cox,
president and co founder of Based Politics, talking about the
effects of the Kids Online Safety Act. More of our
Friday segment's coming up right here on Utah's Talk Radio
one oh five nine. kN Ars Joe Biden a big
announcement coming up on. I believe it was Tuesday of
this week where Biden introduced his so called reforms to

(01:30:11):
the US Supreme Court. The Supreme Court is a target
of Democrats and the Biden administration. They are not happy
recently with many of the rulings coming down from the
Conservative Court. So if they can't get things the way
they want, they're going to try and reform the Supreme Court.
Good luck to them, but it is a threat, and
it could be a stronger thread if Kamala Harris is

(01:30:32):
elected president and the Democrats control both the House and
the US Senate. Earlier this week, after the President announced
his proposed reforms to the Supreme Court, we had a
chance to talk with Ilia Shapiro, director of Constitutional Studies
at the Manhattan Institute, about these proposals and asked him
why he's so concerned about what Joe Biden wants to
do with the US Supreme Court.

Speaker 14 (01:30:53):
I think that's right. I mean, for one thing, these
proposals are dead in arrival in Congress. For another, the
one that kind of has the most bipartisan support, the
most support among the American people, term limits would require
a constitutional amendment, and there's complications and how you would
work it out. So it's you know, the current justices

(01:31:16):
are grandfathered in or I don't know what, it's a
solution overall in search of a problem. The justices adopted
their own new ethics code earlier this year, and you know,
there's no credible allegation of quid pro coc corruption or
anything else. So this is, you know, they're trying to

(01:31:37):
make a play ahead of the election.

Speaker 1 (01:31:38):
I think yeah, of all the proposal that he's making
today is the term limits maybe the most popular that
may have a bit of a chance.

Speaker 14 (01:31:46):
It is the most popular. And and the fact that
it would increase popular confidence in the court to avoid
kind of random vacancies or morbid health watches over octagenary injustices,
these sort of things, that's the strongest argument for it.
It wouldn't actually change the operation of the courty. To
kind of play reverse game theory, and imagine if we'd

(01:32:10):
had term limits for the last fifty years, the ideological
balance of the court wouldn't be all that difference.

Speaker 2 (01:32:16):
Nor would it.

Speaker 14 (01:32:17):
Lower necessarily the average age of the justices, because all
of a sudden, people in their sixties would be considered again,
but yeah, that's the most popular one. It would take
a constitutional amendment though, because the Constitution says that federal judges,
including the justices, serve in times of good behavior, meaning
unless they're impeached, they can't be downgraded. And you can't

(01:32:38):
just you know, say okay, we'll keep paying your salary,
but you're not going to have the same job. That
doesn't work.

Speaker 1 (01:32:44):
What is the thinking you're behind the fact that justices
there are no term limits on the Supreme Court right now.
They serve until they die or they decide to quit.
I mean, what is the thinking behind that? What value
does that bring to the court to have people serve
until you know they're done.

Speaker 14 (01:33:01):
It's independence, judicial independence, so they're not beholden to finding
whatever their next job might be, whether it's with a
law firm or who knows where after their service. It's
making sure that you know they they can only be
removed if they commit an impeachable offense. And some federal

(01:33:23):
judges in our history have been impeached. No justices. There's
one chase that came close in the Andrew Johnson years.
I think he was one vote away from being convicted
and removed by the Senate. But judicial independence is the
idea just so they're not you know, they have a
lifetime appointment and they should be free from political or

(01:33:45):
business pressure.

Speaker 1 (01:33:46):
What changed with Joe Biden, Because for years he was
an advocate against any changes on the court. What changed
to you, thank Illia.

Speaker 14 (01:33:53):
Well, it's a little more nuanced than that. He's been
against court packing, meaning changing the side eyes of the court,
adding justices for political motives. Ironically, he and Bernie Sanders
were the only candidates on the Democratic side in the
twenty twenty primaries that that we're against court packing, possibly

(01:34:15):
the only thing on which I agree with Senator Standers.
But you know this, he's trying to characterize a something
other than than packing or expanding the court, which I
think is right, Although it depends on how exactly the
termal limits would work. If the termal limits went into
effect today, would that mean that, you know, the two
oldest justices who happened to be Thomas and Alito, would

(01:34:36):
they have to retire right away? I don't know how
the legislative package would be would be formed, but assuming
it's not so brazen, assuming it's just what would apply
going forward, you know, it's it's it's it's more nuanced,
but at the end of the day, it's it's trying
to play on this narrative that a lot of left

(01:34:57):
wing activists had, that the that the court is not
normal and it's doing things that are improper, when really,
I think this all comes down to those on the
left understandably not being happy with the direction of the Court,
including major decisions in recent years on abortion and affirmative
action and guns and now presidential immunity.

Speaker 1 (01:35:17):
And so this is this just another example of the
Democrats saying, look at if we go if we don't
get our way on the court, either we're going to
take our ball and go home or change the rules.
Is that a class This is just another classic example
of that, isn't Idelia?

Speaker 14 (01:35:32):
I think so? I mean when you when you if
you want to put it down to brass tacks, the uh,
it's it's a it's a threat, you know, like uh,
like Chuck Schumer, the Majority leader UH said ahead of
an abortion case a few years ago, threatened Kavanaugh and
Gorsich with the you know, if they don't rule the
right way, they're going to reap the whirlwind. That sort

(01:35:53):
of thing. And then of course after the draft of
the Dobbs opinion that overturned Row leaked, there was someone
who went out and wanted to kill Justice Kavanaughs. So
these are these are certainly dangerous things. That's along the
line of, you know, showing concern ring hand ringing over
the legitimacy of the Supreme Court when it's attacks from

(01:36:15):
the same people on the Court that are that are
clouding the Court's reputation in the first place.

Speaker 1 (01:36:20):
On say Biden got everything he wanted right now he
gets what he wants, how would that change the court,
do you think, Illia, Well, again.

Speaker 14 (01:36:26):
It would depend on how the term limit provision would
actually go into effect. If if the next term the
president gets to appoint someone in their first and third year,
you know, whether that's Harris or or Trump, that means
they would, I suppose, get to replace either the oldest
justices or you know, wave the court would would temporarily

(01:36:48):
expand until the current members retire and it settles down
into a nine justice court. The it would mean that
every every presidential le would be a guarantee that that
the winner of it would get to a point two
justices who would each serve for eighteen years in staggered fashion.

Speaker 2 (01:37:09):
That way, as far.

Speaker 14 (01:37:10):
As the Ethics Code is concerned, this is also unconstitutional
in the sense that you would have lower court judges
sitting in judgment quite literally over Supreme Court justices who
are supposed to be there superiors, and mandating recusals in
certain cases potentially or I don't know, issuing fines I
don't know. Again, the specifics of the code are in doubt.

(01:37:31):
It's unclear what such a code would add that the
current prohibition on all sorts of things and disclosure requirements,
what that wouldn't do. And then the reversal of the
presidential immunity. I mean, this is proposals to change the
Constitution because of particular the outcome of one particular case

(01:37:54):
someone doesn't like. That happens from time to time, that
happened to citizens United, That's happened to many cases and
in our history. Again, I don't think that's going anywhere.
But the thing is even the most popular of these,
the term limits. If you could figure out how the
transition would work, you know, past your grandfather in the
current justices or however that would work, it would take

(01:38:16):
a constitutional amendment and if we had a supermajority in
Congress by partisan by definition supermajority that supported that sort
of thing, then probably wouldn't have a Supreme Court wrapped
in controversy in the first place. So it's kind of
a chicken in the egg situation.

Speaker 1 (01:38:34):
On our Listen Back Friday segment, Ilia Shapiro, director of
Constitutional Studies there at the Manhattan Institute, talking about Joe
Biden's proposals to reform the US Supreme Court just or
another reminder. Greg Hughes joins me as the Rod Arcut
Show becomes the Rod and Greg Show starting Monday at four.
We invite you to listen in. We should have a good,
good time each and every day, and we hope that

(01:38:56):
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