The Rod and Greg Show: California Dems block Trafficking bill; Trumps 100 Days; Is the NFL Racist?

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Your host, citizen Greg Hughes Rod is on vacation this week.
Joining me on the program is a guest host, Carolyn Phippen. Carolyn,
welcome again, here we go. We're still going through the week.
You all right, I am doing great. Thanks, I'm having
fun with you. Greg.

Speaker 2 (00:16):
Has anyone ever said that before? No, I think that
might be the first time. I think we're having a moment.
We're having a moment. That's true. That's it's amazing. Yeah,
you'd be the first. I'm gonna actually use you as
a quote. You know what Carolyn Fippen said, it's fun
hanging with Hughes. Okay, Yeah, welcome to the show, folks.
We've got a powerpack show for you, as you would expect.
You know, we've been talking this week because when we

(00:36):
hit day one hundred of President Trump's you know, presidency,
first one hundred days of his administration, he called it
at his rally the revolution of common sense, the last
hundred days and going forward, the revolution of common sense.
Well within that revolution of common sense, Carolyn pointed out,
there's a pretty big battle of the narrative, the regime media,

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the leftists, the democrat it's the narrative versus reality. It
ties into everything, right, every discussion that we have had,
I think, in the past few years, and the things
that are being undone in Trump's first one hundred days
and hopefully will continue being undone at which the courts
are fighting mightily to keep from being undone, are a
part of this battle.

Speaker 3 (01:19):
Right.

Speaker 2 (01:19):
It is narrative versus reality. And a lot of the
things that we're going to talk about today tie into
this explicitly. Do we believe what we're being told or
do we believe what we see and what we experience?
And it's so true, and so your eyes, your ears.
We're going to give you example after example after example
of narrative versus reality. We're going to do it with

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the guests that we invite on the program today. They're
going to tell you the truth and it will not
sound like what the left and what the what the
regime media is trying to tell you.

Speaker 1 (01:50):
But we know this. I mean, we were also going
to point out because there's posters out there like this.
Frank lon Sky is kind of a character, but he
he is just he's he can't believe it. He says,
I've never seen anything like it. The people support them,
even though we've all told them that they're not supposed to.
They still do. And he's just he's beside himself. He
doesn't he just doesn't understand what this could all be about.

(02:13):
We do, We understand, Yeah, and we're going to We're
going to make sure that you understand as well. We're
going to tell you the truth. So we're going to talk.
We're going to talk about you know, we've been touching
yesterday and even the day before on some of these
scary child safety issues that are coming up with the
state legislatures in California. Yesterday we spoke about Colorado and

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the state of Washington, yea, and how trying to protect
kids is becoming harder and harder, and how the left,
for some reason, they are targeting these kids in insidious ways.

Speaker 2 (02:42):
Well we know the reason, by the way, what is
what is? Yeah, there would be no other reason to
loosen laws that allow predation on children except for to
permit more predatory behavior toward children. There's no other reason.
And in fact, this first guest we're going to talk

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to today, there's a discussion in an article that we'll
be discussing at that time that this is exactly what
happened in California. Right as you loosen laws and lessen
penalties for bad behavior, you get more bad behavior because
some of us may be guided by an internal moral compass,

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but some require the law to guide their decisions.

Speaker 1 (03:29):
And if you have you know, you have George Soros
type prosecutors, County prosecutors das that have been elected, they
create the havoc, the catch and release, They allow for
shoplifting up to one thousand dollars. And that's just I mean,
they've wiped out industry, they've wiped out communities, lawlessness reigns,
and you're seeing those das, those prosecutors lose their next elections,

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but in California, as California does, they still have holdovers
and so they have some real, real issues still going
on in the state of California. So we're going to
talk about that. Beyond that, we're going to talk to
one of my favorite guests, Kurt Schlichter. Now, folks, if
you remember we played a clip for you Rod and
I did where he was on one of these British

(04:11):
political shows, and Carolyn, you would love this is some
pompous you know, just knows everything and he's and he
wants to censor everyone that doesn't subscribe to his worldview.
And as you'll hear today in our interview Kirk Schlichter,
he does not pull punches and he's very, very blunt,
to the point where this British host of this television

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show yelled during the middle of the show as Kirk
was trying to make his point. Kurt was that get
him off the program, never let him back on ever again.
He is banned from this program forever. That is a
badge of honor. I would love for some British snooty
political host to ban me from his show. And let
me make a point.

Speaker 2 (04:51):
This banning of speech is the very essence of the
battle we're talking about, right, narrative versus reality, because people
recognize real if they are allowed to have information and
be exposed to that information. The only way you control
people through narrative is by limiting information and shutting down
those things that you don't appreciate. We've seen that, Like all,

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everyone who listens to this show probably understands this point.

Speaker 1 (05:17):
Yes, we it's us. It's the people we all have
to deal with on a daily basis. And when you
look at some scary stuff going on across upon in
terms of some of the social media posts that someone
may even just like or repost, there's there's some criminal
penalties that are coming with the kind of a speech
that people are participating in. And some of it's not like,

(05:37):
you know, harming people or advocating for violence, it's just
subscribing to a belief that we shouldn't maybe chemically castraight kids,
or you know, that you should be able to be
as proud of the of your country as people are
of their of Islam or something else. You know, just
it is just a scary place the world is becoming.

(05:59):
And we saw that really happening through social media here,
and I think guys like Elon Musker really the ones
that really gave us our freedom of speech back and
started allowing us to speak openly. And there needs to
be that diversity of thought, not just the dei that
the left wants to talk about. So when we come

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back from when we get to the break, we'll come back,
we're going to talk about that scary bill in California.
But again, Kirk Schlickter is on one of our guests,
another one, Christian Toto, how is Hollywood digesting all this
and this one's just like sport for me. I just
want to I don't really care about Hollywood. They are
modern day court gesters, Carolyn. That's all they all do.

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They are meant to prove their whole existence, and the
career path they have chosen is to amuse me, to
make me laugh, to make me smile to maybe they don't.
They don't think of the words they say. They read
them off a script. They are just entertainers. But society
kind of gave them a little bit of an elevator status,
and boy are they miss right now, which I like

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is because I think they think too much of themselves.
I kind of like watching their reactions.

Speaker 2 (07:06):
And I think society has reduced the respect that they
may have once had for a lot of these people,
and that would impact like that would make me feel
kind of bad if society applauded and loved me and
suddenly they seem to have maybe kind of turned on me.
I don't think society turned on them necessarily. I think
that members of the public are just able to express

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themselves a little more freely now and they're seeing the
repercussions of that, and by the way, their movies have
not been doing so well lately.

Speaker 1 (07:36):
You talk about there's just no commercial success for taking
your political beliefs and trying to inject it into the
entertainment world. All of those like the Marvel movies, the
Marvel Universe, where it was such a franchise of successful movies.
They'd probably made twenty something movies that were just box
office smashes, and then they just started getting left of
center and they just started getting woken. I don't know

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one over the last three that have been released, I
don't know that they've done very well at all. And
I think it's because they are they decided to inject
politics into everything, even the Star Wars stuff. Carolyn my Son,
I'm actually I like Star Wars too. My Son loves
all these Star Treks on Disney Channel. They get these
new series coming out, you get some of these entertainers

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that are playing some of these key roles, and then
they start just opening about their political beliefs and they
ruin it before I've even seen the first episode of
the series coming out. I'm just not even interested, not interested.

Speaker 2 (08:32):
And by the way, I've never understood why we would
give any credence to the thoughts of people whose entire career,
as you mentioned earlier, is built around pretending to be
something they're not. Yet, Why would they be leaders in
any sense of the word politically when.

Speaker 1 (08:47):
You see them, when I would see them testifying in
Congress in their role as a modern day court jester.
I've always wondered, from the youngest age, why do they
sit there, like, what do they have to bring to
the conversation?

Speaker 3 (08:59):
Really not?

Speaker 1 (09:00):
Let me answer that, nothing at all? And then not
only whatever they're saying doesn't make any sense. They want
to make their even their entertainment about whatever their worldview is,
and however they got it, and then you find out
all the underbelly stuff going on. They're not very good players.
You know, a lot of ribbons on their shirts, on
their tuxedos and dresses at their award sinners where they

(09:22):
congratulate each other. But doesn't sound like the place is that.

Speaker 2 (09:27):
The virtue signaling was important, because it turns out that's
all they had ever.

Speaker 1 (09:32):
Yeah, they weren't. They weren't behaving very well. Okay, folks,
when we come back after the break, we're going to
speak with doctor Carol Lieberman. She is a psychiatrist about
California Democrats trying to block a trafficking bill that would
make it a felony to traffic to purchase minor children
with a straight face. That's what the California Assembly is
trying to do. We're gonna talk to Carol Liberman, doctor

(09:54):
Carroll Liberman when we get back from the break. You're
listening to Utah's Talk Radio one O five to nine. Okay,
arrests out of town. He's enjoying a little little surf,
a little sand, little sunshine. Joining me this week is
Carolyn Fippen as the guest host. Thank you, Carolyn for
being here. Thanks so much so. Folks, we've been talking
about Trump set the tone you said, his last hundred days,

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and this term is going to be the revolution of
common sense. Carolyn, you pointed out that in that revolution,
you've got a battle going on in real time of
the narrative versus reality. And I don't think there's any
or greater example of a narrative versus reality than what
we're going to speak with our guest right now, doctor
Carol Lieberman. The California State Legislature, it's and right specifically

(10:42):
their state Assembly. They don't want to make the purchasing
of minor children a felony. They got a problem with us.
So joining us on the program is Carol Lieberman, Doctor
Carol Liberman, to speak about this issue. Doctor, thank you
for joining us on the program. There's a narrative that
I guess somebody's selling in California that this is not

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a bill worth passing to make it a felony for
seventeen year olds that are miners to be sold to
people for purposes of human trafficking. I guess there's a
narrative out there that would make that compelling. But there's
there's a very clear reality of why we should be
protecting these kids. Can you sort this out for us?

Speaker 4 (11:22):
Yes, don't come to California.

Speaker 1 (11:25):
Yeah, I'm writing that down number one. Hey, got it.

Speaker 4 (11:31):
Oh, some of the people out here make unfortunately in
the state Assembly, are you know it goes against common sense?

Speaker 1 (11:40):
Of course.

Speaker 4 (11:41):
Well, first of all, there was a bill that did
get past that was for I mean, it got passed
a sort of a compromise that it would make sex
trafficking with children less than sixteen a felony. But the compromise,
you know, the people in the in the State Assembly,
who you know, begrudgingly didn't want to do this, that

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they held on to the sixteen and seventeen year old.
So in other words, you can traffic a sixteen or
seventeen year old, but not fifteen. I mean, it is absurd.
You shouldn't be able to be trafficking any mine or
anyone under eighteen. And it goes along with the whole
idea of social justice and putting people in jail or

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giving them the punishments. The verdicts are not really verdicts
in these cases, but the punishments that they need that
they're supposed that they should get.

Speaker 2 (12:33):
Of course, Yeah, it's more of the elevating the criminal
over the victim of their crimes that we keep seeing
out of the left. So I have a question, because
as somebody who has dealt I would think on a
very personal level with some of the victims of these
awful types of crimes. We know that California has lessened

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penalties in a number of different ways that has led
to more broken lives a victims. What does the process
look like from your perspective to help these kids get
to a better place and repair their lives.

Speaker 4 (13:08):
Well, the real answer is to help families, help parents,
you know, learn how to take care of their kids better.
I mean, in other words, the the a lot of
the kids who are who end up on the street
being trafficked and so on, have been sexually abused already
at home, either by a parent or an uncle or

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somebody stranger. So the way to start it is to
work on developing such a close relationship with your child
that they feel very welcome to come and talk with
you about questions and their feelings and all of that.
But as far as as far as you know, yes,

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I'm besides being a clinical psychiatrist, I'm also a forensic psychiatrist.
I testify at different trials, So you know, the the
answer to that is, I mean, of course, first of all,
of course it should be made a felony. That's not
a question, but you know it is. Well, there is

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some positive news in California, like, for example, in Los Angeles,
the DA was Gascone and he's the one who you know,
you're sure you probably have seen him on television talking
about why we should let out the Menendez brothers and
all of that, and and and he was a sorrows
plant and and we did manage to get rid of

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him to vote in a hawkman who is who is
more sane. And so there are and apparently in other
areas in California too, there have been changes where these
these uh you know, das who believe in not there's
not a crime that needs to be punished kind of philosophy,

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they are getting replaced so little by little. I think
of moving in that positive direction, but that isn't really
helping the sixteen and seventeen year olds that are now
still going to be able to be trafficked.

Speaker 1 (15:13):
So doctor, let me just ask you this final question
real quickly, and we're speaking with doctor Karl Lieberman, psychiatrist.
You actually deal with issues like even terrorism and how
it may impact families and children that you're so prolific
on so many issues helping children. This eighty or seventy
eight thirty eighty twenty cent positions where Democrats are embracing

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a position that every day Americans may twenty percent of
America or thirty percent of America may agree with. It
seems that the billionaire donors like the Soros, and that
their type seem to be on that small percentage side
of these issues against the American people. My question is, like,
eskn do we have Do you think there's momentum where
this flies in the face of common sense? Even criminals

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had a code about pedophiles and people that harm children
and they didn't treat them more. Well, is there are
we going to see a shift? Are these billionaires going
to continue to get these types of prosecutors elected, or
are we going to see some common sense even in
California in terms of criminal justice.

Speaker 4 (16:13):
Well, I certainly hope, and it's going to be taking
a little longer than I hoped, and a lot of
people hoped for Trump's policies, which are these common sense
policies to be enacted all over I mean, he is
being fought every which way about not being allowed to
return some immigrants illegal immigrants, and you know the problems

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with the college campuses and all of that. There's law
there going on all over the place, and so it
is a it is delaying things, and it is unfortunate.
There are a lot of people who are going to
be hurt by that. But I do believe that we
will we will get we will get there eventually.

Speaker 1 (16:54):
Doctor Carroll Lieberman joining us talking about this crazy bill
in California, where they don't want it to be a
felony for sixteen seventeen year olds to be purchased for
purposes of sex sex trafficking. Thank you for bringing this
to our attention, thank you for being a stalwart on
this issue, and thanks for joining us on the show.

Speaker 4 (17:11):
You're very welcome.

Speaker 1 (17:13):
Hey, folks. When we come back, we're gonna talk more
about this. We're gonna drill down into some of these
narratives like the one we just kind of shattered just now,
that are really deceiving the people are trying to and
we get the truth right here on Utah's Talk Radio
one oh five nine can arrest back after the break.
What would you put as your third preset, Carolyn, Oh gosh,
what music genre would you pick?

Speaker 2 (17:34):
Here's the problem. This is a mystery to everybody who
knows me. I one time when I was on a
trip with somebody, when I was working for Senator Lee,
I was traveling, you know, with one of my co workers,
and he literally spent we were driving around Utah. Yes,
he spent many hours just playing songs and saying how

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about this one?

Speaker 1 (17:56):
How about this one?

Speaker 2 (17:57):
So that he could formulate a playlist for me because
because I have no particular genre, I have no particular
time period. I don't even like specific bands or singers.
I like individual songs. It's and I have. I have
a family who like loves every kind of music. And no,

(18:18):
I'm like super picky.

Speaker 1 (18:19):
Is it because you dislike most music? Yes, that's all music,
and you can't land on the.

Speaker 2 (18:25):
I dislike most things. Yeah, not things songs, but everything eighties.
You gotta love everything eighties.

Speaker 1 (18:31):
I hate, I hate Away from me, get the hens,
I what are you even talking about? That is my favorite?
And live in the eighties, Live in the aies. You
must not watch Miamivice. I watched The Reasons all the time.
It's like a It's like a time machine for you.

Speaker 2 (18:49):
And my husband and my boys all disagree with me.
But you guys are all wrong.

Speaker 1 (18:54):
Well, I don't know. I'm I love my ages. It's
my happy place. Okay, let's get back to business here.
I don't know, folks. The reason it's important to listen
to this show is you're getting off of work, or
it's in the evening whatever, you're getting ready to do
this four to seven block. You usually get a lot
of breaking news that it's happening out through the day.
Every time we start our show prep at eight thirty

(19:14):
in the morning. By the time we start this program,
a lot has happened that takes all that prep out
of it, just throws it out the window. You know,
we spoke yesterday about a judge saying you need to
just you need a warrant from a judge to be
able to deport someone. This is what this district judge
was saying. And Senator Mike Lee pointed out that that's
actually not the way the law reads, and a warrant

(19:36):
because you're afraid of flight is just inherent with someone
who's come over this border illegally and they don't need it.
And so he's working on that. But before he can
even get working on that, we have another judge two day,
which probably is around three o'clock today five o'clock Eastern,
it was reported that a judge blocks Trump from deport
from deporting Venezuelan gang members from South Texas using the

(19:59):
Alien and Ties Act. This federal judge on Thursday today
has prevented the trumpdministration from deporting alleged Venezuelan gang members
now using the Alien Enemies Act. He says that the
court that they're not an armed force, they're not an
armed country, and you can't use it.

Speaker 5 (20:16):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (20:17):
Right. The problem with this, again, another district court judge
making a decision for this country inserting themselves into this
immigration policy that amazingly worked without two hundred and forty
plus judicial rulings that this president has had to deal
with on all fronts, but especially on this immigration front,
is that this cartel, and we're going to get in

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the show about how their claws are into this country
and ras even into the crude oil coming into this country.
These cartels and their supply chain of human beings and
drugs fentanyl and now we're learning fuel and oil and
all kinds of things. They are such a powerful presence
and they are hand in glove with many countries. Now
in terms of the countries and these gangs that are

(21:01):
coming over, it is twenty twenty five's Enemy Act. Okay,
this may be an old law, but it applies is
if there ever was a foreign enemy invading this country.

Speaker 2 (21:11):
And you know, I think it's rather foolish to say
that it can't be used because we define an enemy
force as only one thing, as though the world hasn't changed.
There are these organizations.

Speaker 3 (21:26):
You know.

Speaker 2 (21:27):
We talked the other day about how I was down
at the border a couple of years ago, and one
of the things that we were told by border agents
is that there had been so much money flowing to
these cartels that they had built private.

Speaker 1 (21:40):
Armies all along the southern border.

Speaker 2 (21:42):
So they are functioning, and other organizations are as well,
we know in the Middle East, as complete adversaries without
being official countries.

Speaker 1 (21:52):
So Centator Lee's got a bill he's worked he's working
on before this lat latest ruling, but these are going
to keep coming if we don't do something about it.
Looks like he's trying to do something about it.

Speaker 2 (22:01):
Yeah, he's trying to put together or his bill would
put together a three judge panel so that when these
injunctions are issued nationwide by one judge, that that can
be immediately against the executive branch, that that can be
immediately appealed to this three judge panel, and that those
orders become automatically appealable to the Supreme Court. And the

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Supreme Court has to take the case. They have no
choice when it comes to that. We need something like this,
We need some kind of expedited process to allow the
executive branch to actually do their job.

Speaker 1 (22:35):
And I'm not sure because because I'm as the way
I understand the Senate, you need that sixty votes to
defeat a filibuster. I don't know if you can put
that into a budget bill where you only need fifty
one votes. I don't know how you practically get this
bill passed. But what I will tell you is this
judge knows nothing about national security. It's not his job
to know anything exact security. He doesn't know more than
the Secretary of Defense. He doesn't know anything more than

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the people that are actually charged with protecting this nation
that would be found within the executive branch. He's trying
to make a definition of what an alien enemy would
be from what movies, from what he read in history books.
He has no idea, and yet he's now going to
set the standards. It has been out of control already,
but we do need to have this reigned in, and
the Supreme Court is really going to have to insert

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itself very quickly. Whether it's through Center Lee's built or not,
it needs to be addressed asap. When we come back
after the break, we're gonna get a little bit more
into this and into some of these decisions. This is
the big battle and our revolution of common sense, the
battle of the narrative versus reality. And we got a
lot more reality to share with you folks when we
come back. So stay tuned, stick with us here on

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Utah's Talk Radio one oh five nine Canaus. I am
Citizen Hughes, your host and my guest host this week
has rowed. Is on vacation? Is Carolyn Fippen?

Speaker 2 (23:49):
I know I kind of want to be on vacation,
but I'm enjoying it anyway.

Speaker 1 (23:53):
This isn't vacation. This is kind of vacation, isn't it?
Isn't it just just like being on vacation being Yeah,
it's just like it. Okay, So we're talking about this
this crazy judge, that's my words. Crazy. But he's decided
he wants to define the the aliens enemies act in
a way that he can. He doesn't think these, uh,

(24:13):
these enemies are fitting the what his idea of a
of a of a country's invading army to look like.
So he's going to throw the whole thing out. It
sounds like it goes to a circuit court or an
appeals court that out of New Orleans. It's the fifth
Circuit Court of Appeals, which is one of the more
conservative ones. So I think it's again, we just got

(24:35):
to play this waiting game, and they're trying to run
the clock. These leftists are in terms of trying to
delay everything he can do. They're going to they're going
to try and delay if they can't win outright win.
So we're gonna do this. We're gonna play this dance still.
But we were talking before the break about Senator Lee.
He's got a couple of ideas, he's got a couple
of bills he's working on. Maybe you can give some

(24:55):
deeper perspective this.

Speaker 2 (24:56):
Yeah, I wanted to give this other one that. Yeah,
he just up some information out on a couple of
days ago. And it again you have these judges trying
to take over the executive branch and their duties and
trying to insert their own judgments for that of the
president and his people. And the other legislation Senator Lee

(25:18):
is working on, there's no bill that's been released on
it yet, but it would really strip the ability of
these courts to even deal with illegal immigrants. If you
are an illegal immigrant in this country and there's something
there's a case dealing with either apprehension or removal, it
can only go through immigration courts. Right If you're here legally,

(25:39):
that's a different process and you have the right to
go to these federal courts for that, but not illegal immigrants.
We have courts specifically for them, and this legislation would
say that's the only place you can go on these issues.

Speaker 1 (25:55):
And I think that's the kind of thing that needs
to be done well. It is because it's not a
random approach to a judge not knowing anything about this
judge where they get to rule as a district court
judge on these issues. They are shopping. The left is
shopping judge for judges that they know are going to
give them the ruling. They are seeking again to either
carry the day or to delay one of the two

(26:16):
right issues.

Speaker 2 (26:17):
And I think that's a big part of the strategy.
There's not as of course they would like these holding
or these rulings to hold. I think they know in
many cases they won't.

Speaker 1 (26:26):
But that's not the point, right, It's not because when
you spent four years allowing people to were you ignored
all due process, all laws, you let people walk across.
It was never the case that you could say the
word asylum and then three to five years get your
court date. And we have a million or more of
them of people that went that route, but those that
came across undetected. But if you do that and you

(26:49):
don't have what was normally the way you would deport people,
as Obama did it, I mean, nobody's hitting Obama's numbers yet,
and I know he kind of put his thumb on
the scale a little bit by counting in those numbers
people that they turned away at the border. But even then,
we're seeing the left stop and slow down President Trump's
efforts down to a pace that's slower than what Obama
was able to do, which is pathetic. But they want

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to change politics in the United States, and they don't
want to do it with the people that voted in
the last election. They're not interested in anybody that voted
for President Trump. So if you have them, you know
we've won the popular vote in addition to the electoral college.
Every single one of those individuals, Democrats don't care about them.
Who they care about are the millions of people that
they had that they brought over who they are going

(27:32):
to seek to first have be counted in the census,
to draw districts for Congress to wait the districts and
to a Democrat advantage, and then they're going to use
amnesty or something to give voting rights to the people
they've allowed in. And that's the trade. So all they're
trying to do is keep who they allowed in for
four years illegally so that they can legitimize them eventually,

(27:55):
they and and they've they've given for they've given up
for dead. The American people here in terms of the
issues that we care about, the common sense that we
abide by, they're not interested in it.

Speaker 2 (28:05):
Well, and I would take issue a little bit with
what you said about they don't care about you know,
Trump voters. They care about these illegal aliens. They don't
care about anybody but themselves in their own power.

Speaker 1 (28:18):
That is actually more true that they are just they're
just a tool or a vehicle for them absolutely perpetuate themselves.
That's what it is. And you know, even things like.

Speaker 2 (28:29):
Voting by illegal immigrants, we know that's going on in
our own state. We know what's going on. We have
members of legislative leadership who have proof of it. They
know what's happening. And do you know if you have voted.
A lot of this is encouraged and facilitated by the left.
If you have ever voted in the United States as

(28:49):
an illegal alien, you can never become a citizen. I
just found this out. So again they're harming the people
they claim to be helping, but it helps them, so
apparently they don't care.

Speaker 1 (29:00):
And remember, how do we know this. Some of this
information came from Doge in terms of people the one
guy he's like, they were just looking at social security numbers.
Found out that those that were declaring asylum were just
mailed social Security numbers. They weren't even going to offices
to apply. And these social security numbers are being attached
and people were using that as a form of identification
to illegally vote. Whether they thought they were allowed to

(29:22):
or not, it doesn't matter. It's it is going on
and it's by plan. I don't think that the Democrats
on an honest day would tell you any different. They
they are just trying to slow the ability too. They
on honest day, they they they're not going to tell
you that. If they would tell you what they'll do
that's exactly what they're gonna do. Okay, when we come back,
we're going to talk to him one of my favorite calumnist,

(29:44):
Kurt kirk schlicker He's tells it as it is. We're
going to talk about reality versus the narrative when we
come back after the break. Don't miss joining me this
week because Rod is on vacation. The great and lovely
Carolyn Fippin.

Speaker 2 (29:59):
You know, this has really been the privilege of my life, Greg,
which is yeah, to join you on the show this week.

Speaker 1 (30:06):
I'm duh, yeah, no kidding. And it's like you won
the lottery. I know, I know, I've seen the pep
in your step, I've seen how giddy you are. This
is true. Okay, folks, my favorite guest in the whole
universe coming on. What I love about our next guest,
Kirk Schlickter, is that if you are a stuffy leftist
and you have a political program around the world, Kurt

(30:27):
is not the person you want to invite on. And
we played we won't play on the show now, but
when Rod and I had him on last we played
how he was kicked off in real time. One of
these shows from across the pond and told never to
come back again. Joining us is kurk Schlickter again the
nemesist of the stuffy leftist. Welcome to the show, kirk Oh,

(30:50):
hang on, as I say, welcome to the show, you
got me, I don't believe me. Stick with me.

Speaker 6 (30:58):
Look, if i'm your fait gas, that tells me two things.
That tells me Either either you've never had any other guests.
That's not true, or you live a sad, sad life,
and I'm sad for you.

Speaker 1 (31:12):
We have some great guests. They are all really they'd
be sad to hear me say that. But you, I'm
telling you, you are. You are the best when you
can get people as angry as you do, when you
can come up with terms of these sissy Fredo cons
of Republicans, the Fredo's like your godfather, the Fredo cons.
I love it.

Speaker 3 (31:32):
Smart, not tomb like everybody smart. And I'm a congressman
from East Dakota.

Speaker 1 (31:38):
I know the sissy Republican fre Fredo cons. I love
the term. I'm gonna use it forever. Look, we've been
talking on.

Speaker 3 (31:46):
A progressation of free and stupidity.

Speaker 6 (31:50):
I know it's all wrapped up in one pathetic little package.

Speaker 3 (31:53):
There's talking about Tom Tiller's.

Speaker 1 (31:56):
There you go.

Speaker 6 (31:57):
Anybody that that guy who's not Mike Lee from Utah,
we could be talking about.

Speaker 1 (32:02):
Him, yes here here who I ran against it.

Speaker 3 (32:05):
With any softer he'd literally be tofu.

Speaker 2 (32:09):
So I have decided, just in about thirty seconds of
talking to Kurt that he is the opposite of dark woke. Yes,
we were talking about that earlier. I do think he
is the polar opposite. I'm liking.

Speaker 1 (32:26):
Exactly like the sun you're shining. Hey, now look I'm
a quasar super nova. Listen. So our theme today because
you know President Trump said, hey, my hundred days it
was a revolution of common sense. And again we're gonna
keep the revolution going. We're gonna We're gonna be a
revolution of common sense. We've been talking today about the

(32:47):
battle between the leftist narrative versus the reality. And this
is why I love having you on the program. You
wrote an incredible article, don't believe the anti Trump propaganda,
and you break down for people quite well. Well, uh,
some of the with the regime media is trying trying
to sell us with the leftists are trying to sell
us with the sissy Republican fredocons are trying to sell us,

(33:09):
and you kind of bring some truth to the table.
Maybe you could share with our listeners. Is is Trump underwater?
Does everybody regret voting for him? Is it all so bad?
As they try to tell us?

Speaker 6 (33:20):
Well, look, you have a wide variety of friends, because
of course I'm your favorite guest. Right if you met
a single human being who came up to you and said,
you know, I voted for Trump because I didn't like
communism and sub meeting to America's enemies and open borders
and cast trating young boys because they claims to the

(33:41):
direction of a Barbie doll and their mother has Munchaus
and sin by proxy and also is on Startney and
ms cocktail, And I vote for Trump, but he's been
you know, I don't know. My four oh one k
seems a little uh.

Speaker 3 (33:56):
A little unsteady at the moment.

Speaker 6 (33:58):
So I'm gonna throw all that way and regret voting
for Donald Trump. The guy who stopped they would ever
come up and said anything remotely like that.

Speaker 3 (34:08):
Now, Look, I'm a lawyer.

Speaker 6 (34:10):
I was a trial wader, Okay, I handle evidence, and
anecdotes are not evidence of anything except anecdotes. But they
do kind of they do kind of resonate like cliches.

Speaker 3 (34:22):
There's always a grain of truth in them.

Speaker 6 (34:24):
Right, I have not met anyone who did that. And
I live in communists Los Angeles.

Speaker 3 (34:29):
Wow, you guys live in gods.

Speaker 1 (34:32):
I've not met them, but I'll tell you what I
have met. And you actually you point this out on
your article. I've met some some of our callers have
said it's not going fast enough. I want more. I
want more, I want the files, I want people. I
want people thrown in a clink.

Speaker 3 (34:46):
Excellent. I love to hear that. Now, look, I look, I.

Speaker 6 (34:51):
I've worked in big, ugly, ineffective institutions.

Speaker 3 (34:54):
But enough about the army. I understand that.

Speaker 6 (34:57):
I understand that things move at a certain pace, things
move slow, and maybe people have higher expectations than are
practically possible. That being said, keep the heat on people,
this is true.

Speaker 3 (35:12):
Let up, don't let up. Get more, more and more.

Speaker 6 (35:15):
I want more, well, I mean, be Scrooge McDuck.

Speaker 3 (35:20):
Okay, we want more.

Speaker 2 (35:22):
I think we have to overwhelm the false narrative. Right,
We've been talking this afternoon about we really are in
a battle of narrative.

Speaker 1 (35:31):
Versus reality.

Speaker 2 (35:32):
And we know during Trump's first term a lot of
these leftist propaganda efforts were very successful among the public,
and I think even among some people who voted for him.
So what do you think has changed? What is different
this time? Because it is different this time.

Speaker 6 (35:49):
In June, it's going to be ten years since he
came down the elevator. And you know, there are various
ways that people learn. Some people learn from experience, people
learn from other people's experience.

Speaker 3 (36:02):
Some people only learn through pain, and we had ten
years of pain.

Speaker 6 (36:06):
Even the dumbest Republican is start starting to say, you.

Speaker 3 (36:10):
Know, perhaps the regime media is not playing straight with.

Speaker 6 (36:13):
Us, all right, I mean you know, I mean you know,
I mean Mitt Romney's like, well.

Speaker 3 (36:19):
I don't know, they might be a little off.

Speaker 1 (36:24):
So Kurt, Kurt, let me ask you this. I'm seeing
these polls, like just like the one you mentioned, like, oh,
there's all this buyer's remorse with Trump, who we've never seen.
These are like, you know, this is like bigfoot run around.
We don't know who where they're at. But how about
but how about the polling data that they're using right
now that says that it's the least popular a president

(36:44):
has ever been. After one hundred days, you're seeing some
of these plots. Now, how what's what's the track record
of these posters? I mean we had them in sixteen
and twenty twenty four. I mean, do you think they
got better over time?

Speaker 3 (36:56):
All these all these poles better. Yeah, in the last
four months. Suddenly they figured it out.

Speaker 6 (37:02):
Suddenly they're like, you know, I've messed with you for
ten years, man, twenty years.

Speaker 3 (37:07):
Yeah, I've been wrong every single time. But this time,
me and my whiteboard, we've got it.

Speaker 1 (37:13):
We're getting it exactly.

Speaker 6 (37:15):
You know, Frank Launce, the guy with a little creature
living in where his hair should.

Speaker 3 (37:18):
Be, I.

Speaker 1 (37:21):
Think it is.

Speaker 3 (37:21):
Yeah, Oh he was, he was.

Speaker 6 (37:24):
He was a jerk to me in the green room
months and I don't forget waiting for you. You know,
Crodo Baggins looks at you and goes, hey, you're a
little short.

Speaker 1 (37:33):
But you know what that's I call that positive social proofing.
You're on those side of angel.

Speaker 3 (37:39):
Well.

Speaker 6 (37:39):
But but he's just I mean, he's just so hacked
and he's like, I'm still don't understand. Republicans are standing
by Donald Trump, even though there are four to one.

Speaker 3 (37:48):
Case have gone down.

Speaker 7 (37:49):
Now.

Speaker 3 (37:49):
Look, I am a prosperous Los Angeles lawyer.

Speaker 6 (37:52):
I did fairly well, and I have taken hits. And
you know what, Okay, I mean if I could live,
really put my booty on the line for my country,
you know, as a chemical warfare office or a desert
storm for God's sake. Wow, I think I could take
my four oh one k doing the Grand Cyclone roller
coaster for a little while now, so that the rest

(38:16):
of America who who, Yeah, I'm in Blue California, you know,
live by the beach.

Speaker 3 (38:23):
I'm feeling. I'm doing fine.

Speaker 6 (38:25):
They're a lot, but you go five miles inland from
where I am and there are people who are hurting bad.
They can't get jobs, they're disrespected, their kids can't get educated.

Speaker 3 (38:35):
Oh, all our rich lives around here with their there's
hate in this house now, humans and a crappy Oakie
Chardonnay are are are? You know? Are living this life?
And I live there too.

Speaker 6 (38:49):
But you know what I'm wanting to look, I'll take
a hit on my four oh one K so that people,
my fellow Americans, can have a chance.

Speaker 3 (38:57):
And I think I think most.

Speaker 6 (39:00):
Trump folks, you know, many of whom have been doing well,
but they want everybody to do well. It's not just Look,
I know you're not used to it from a Los
Angeles lawyer.

Speaker 3 (39:11):
It's not just about me.

Speaker 2 (39:14):
We're not used to it from anyone from anywhere, from
the left coast.

Speaker 1 (39:18):
It's just disoriented. I don't get it. Look at the
end of your column. It's like a call to arms.
I love it. You just so our listeners. We've got
the smartest listening audience and all the land. They'd win
any Jeopardy show if they were on it against any
other radio.

Speaker 3 (39:30):
Number one in education, right.

Speaker 1 (39:32):
Well, we're number one everything. I mean, go look at
the rich states of Fars States.

Speaker 3 (39:36):
You know.

Speaker 1 (39:36):
One of our guests is Stephen Moore. He I mean,
he's you know, he's a big hitter and and you
know he loves Utah. And we're always we're always ranking
eighteen years in a row, Utah's rank number one. Great
audience listening to you right now? What is the call
the arms? When we talk about the fake narrative that's
out there, you're really explaining it bluntly, the truth of it.
What would you say to our listeners as we move forward?

(39:56):
In this administration with Trump.

Speaker 3 (39:59):
Don't believe the hype. Stay the course.

Speaker 6 (40:03):
Your gut instinct has told you that Donald Trump's on
the right path. Bring it a fix and a fix
in our trade system. Were you organizing the government throwing
out illegal aliens, strengthening our military.

Speaker 3 (40:18):
Your gut will tell you you.

Speaker 6 (40:21):
God made you with common sense. God made you with
an idea of right and wrong. You have the sense
inside yourself. And you're feeling you know, I'm being told
left and right by people with an interest in Trump failing.

Speaker 3 (40:34):
The Trump's failing. What a coincidence. But it doesn't feel
like that. It feels like we're moving ahead. Are we moving?
Are we hitting some obstacles? Yeah?

Speaker 6 (40:44):
Are some people you know, screwing up in the administration,
not hugely. I mean they're blown it way out of proportion.
But no human endeavor is perfect. Your gut is correct,
We're winning.

Speaker 3 (40:57):
Stick with it.

Speaker 6 (40:58):
Do not let them demoralize you, Do not let them
take you off task, Do not let them.

Speaker 3 (41:06):
Turn you into Frenchman and throw down your arms and
throw your hands.

Speaker 1 (41:09):
Up and SA, there you go. That's it. Side of
Angel's brother, I thank you so much for joining us
on the program, Keep up the good work. That's Kurt
Schellicht from He's a senior columnist at town Hall. The
article is don't believe anti Trump Propaganda. You want to
go look it up on town Hall. It's a great article.
You can tell from the interview. Man knows what he's
talking about. Uh, well, we have a lot more to

(41:29):
discuss when we come back after this break. It's talk
Radio one oh five nine can Arrest. Can you listen
to the show all the time, so you've probably heard
Kurt on our show, Kurt Schelickter before. You probably heard
him all the time, so he was very familiar to you,
I know. But is that a fun interview or what? Yeah,
that was awesome. I knew that was going to be good.
I've read his stuff. Yes, he is. And I'm telling
you that again when I see him on television. He

(41:50):
said that Frank once uh was treated him rudely. You
know in the green folks. He's on all the talking
head shows. I mean, if there's a show a cable
news or you know, a news network show, you you'll
see Kurt on there. He's on quite a bit on
Fox News and you name it. And so I could
just see Frank Lunz treat you know, not liking him,

(42:12):
or give him the cold shoulder, and I can just
see that he wouldn't even know how to begin the
handle Kurt. It'd be I would just love to be
a fly.

Speaker 2 (42:19):
I can't believe he's really very easy to handle. I mean,
I'm gonna be honest about this.

Speaker 1 (42:25):
Well, think about it. I you know, I mean if
you saw in the in the interview where he got
kicked off the show, it was an absolute riot because
you know, he was being the guy was asking him
a pretty dumb question, but he went right after him,
and the guy just couldn't handle it anymore. You his
producer get him off the show. You know, I want
to play, can I you have an important point that

(42:45):
was made by one of our great listeners while we
were on on the break. I want to go into
that comment that was made before we do. I want
to just while it's still fresh. I want to play
for our listeners. The the Frank Lunz he quoted him
because he was on uh CNBC and and Franklinz can't
get his head around why or how people still support
Donald Trump. You know, he's only done everything he's campaigned on.

(43:07):
He's only and he's just so surprised that because they're
telling you that the that the that the dows down,
which it's not, that you should somehow be now finally
clutching your pearls. When inflation didn't matter, when gas prices
didn't matter, when mortgage rates were sky hide, none of
that needed to matter. But now you should be really
upset with Trump, and they're not. And this polster Franklinz

(43:29):
doesn't know how to how to digest that. Let's have
a listen about what's confusing him.

Speaker 3 (43:34):
For them to.

Speaker 8 (43:35):
Get a readjustment of the relationship between the US and China,
a readjustment of the relationship between the US and the
rest of the world, they'll take personal pain to get
that readjustment. And Andrew, I've never seen this before because
usually when you're hurt economically, that changes your perspective and

(43:55):
your politics.

Speaker 3 (43:57):
Now I'm with these people in staying.

Speaker 1 (44:00):
But what he doesn't get is that we're not hurt
like that. We've been harmed when Biden was president. We
felt that pain, which they didn't.

Speaker 2 (44:07):
That's right, that's right, and we have we lived through
I believe four years of the most difficult times that
our country has faced in my lifetime for a number
of different reasons. And we know that it came as
a direct result of a president that wasn't functioning and

(44:29):
a media that was lying to us about absolutely everything.
And those policies that were coming out of that White
House were killing Americans.

Speaker 1 (44:38):
Absolutely, absolutely they were. We felt it, Yeah, we did.

Speaker 3 (44:42):
So.

Speaker 2 (44:42):
You can't tell me a little bit of pain. A
three tenths of a percent drop in the GDP one
quarter when we know that this realignment is necessary to
fix some of the big problems is something I should
be crying about.

Speaker 1 (44:56):
And part of that shrink is actually the government spending
going down as we're seeing private investment increase. All those
things are you know, the people can feel it when
it really hurts and when it doesn't. Frank Lenz doesn't
understand it, but the everyday American people do. Hey, we
got to go to a break right now. When we
come back, we're gonna have Christian Toto, editor of Hollywood
and Toto dot com. He also has a podcast. We're

(45:18):
going to talk about how Hollywood is reacting to President
Trump in this first hundred days. This should be, this
should be epic. I'm excited to talk to Christian when
we get back from the break. So you're not gonna
want to miss it. You're listening to Talk Radio one
oh five nine, can Arrests rolling right along here on

(45:57):
the Ronin Greg Show, on Youtah Talk Radio one oh
five nine k nrs, everywhere on the iHeartRadio app. We've
had a power pack show. So far we have been
talking about this battle. Okay, if if Trump is saying
his first hundred days is the revolution of common sense
as he goes forward, the battle of our day is
the narrative of the regime, media, the leftists, everybody else

(46:19):
versus reality. What our senses of sight, smell, taste, you
know everything. What are our senses are telling us? Who's
telling the truth? I think reality is what's fighting to
carry the day against a false narrative. When we talk
about that, Carolyn, could Hollywood be a greater example of
a narrative and not the real in terms of it's

(46:40):
the whole industry is really based on fiction and entertainment
and everything like that. But then these these Hollywood stars
they get kind of popular, they get they get successful financially,
and then all of a sudden. They get a lot
of opinions politically, and they've been pretty tough on our
president for you know, not just now, but for a while.
Joining us on the program is someone that going to
sort it all out for us and tell us how

(47:02):
Hollywood's doing, how are they surviving? Christian Toto is joining
us on the program. Christian has a great podcast, Hollywood
in Toto, No the Hollywood in Toto. Christian, hang on,
I did it again. I did it again, folks. I'm
handling the NASA like board today. I am bringing in
Christian Toto. Christian, thank you for joining us on the program.

Speaker 5 (47:25):
Oh my pleasure.

Speaker 1 (47:27):
So you might have heard in the beginning Hollywood is
supposed to be a place where we're supposed to escape
into I don't know, Marvel movie or I like Star Wars,
I like this stuff. But then they just ruin it all.
But because they got all these harsh political opinions, I'd
just rather than stay out of it completely, but they
never have. But how are things today? I know Rosie's
out there in Ireland somewhere. She didn't want to be here,

(47:49):
she's mad. But how's what's Hollywood? How's Hollywood handling the
first hundred days of Donald Trump's administration.

Speaker 5 (47:57):
Well, I think initially after the election, they were stunned,
stunned the silence, and even some of the major and
came out. That's like Hollywood Reporter and Variety. We're thinking, well,
where's the resistance? We need these starts more than that. Well,
they are speaking at you know, they're just the usual
podiums where it could be an award show stage, it
could be late night TV, it could be social media,

(48:19):
and you know, listen, it's mostly unhinged and listen. The
stars have every right to say what they want to say.
They can weigh in on things. I certainly think it's
a risk if they want to alienate potentially half the country,
and I think we've seen that in real time with
Rachel Zegler and snow Whitegate. But I think what's so
frustrating for me is that they just don't get their
facts straight. You know, I'm just tune into the view

(48:40):
on any given day, and it's really unhinged. Conspiracy theories
about an ounce of reality based in them, but they
spout it and other stars do as well. And you know,
Neil Young's worried about not being let back into the
country if he leaves, and other people like Nikki Glazer,
who's a very funny comedian, she said something very similar recently.
And so listen, they're drinking the kool laid and it's

(49:03):
a shame. Listen. President Trump has his flaws. Nothing goes perfectly.
You can critique them on many different levels. It's perfectly fine,
it's the American way, right, But when they go to
the crazy level, then it really just makes them look
foolish and even more detached from the public at large,
which is who they want to connect with to sell
their product and get people to the movies.

Speaker 2 (49:23):
Yeah, that's a good point, and I think it really
does go to the point that we've been talking about today.

Speaker 1 (49:28):
This battle of narrative versus reality.

Speaker 2 (49:30):
Right, when you surround yourself with only like minded people,
it's really easy to get sucked into the propaganda. So
I have a question for you, because you know, you
wrote in this article about the fact that we saw
such really bold protestations out of Hollywood last time around
in twenty sixteen when Trump was elected. That's not what
we're seeing this time, but you did acknowledge that we

(49:54):
might see more that might change. So give me your
thoughts about how this plays out over the next four
year with regard to Hollywood.

Speaker 5 (50:02):
Well, I think late night TV will be late night TV.
I think they haven't changed in Iota in the last
eight or nine years, so I think that will be
full steam ahead. I wonder about the movies and TV
shows and documentaries that we'll see over the next four years.
I suspect they may not go directly at the President.
They may kind of nibble around the edges. And one

(50:22):
potential example of that is something called Mountainhead. It's coming
at the end of May on Max or HBO. I
get that brand, and.

Speaker 3 (50:31):
I work in the industry.

Speaker 1 (50:32):
What's going on?

Speaker 5 (50:33):
But it's about four billionaires who are out at a
ski resort and then as they're out gallivanting, something happens
international crisis. And you get the sense, based on the trailer,
based on the teaser, based on the people behind the scenes,
that this is going to be sort of an anti
Elon Musk anti Oligaric affair. We'll have to wait and see.
But they really rushed it into production. I think it

(50:54):
took almost five days I've read one report to actually
shoot the film, which is very, very very limited. I
think they want to get it out now, and that
makes me a little suspicious, so maybe they want to
enter the zeitgeist. But yeah, I think we'll see more
of that. Maybe just around the edge is not a
direct attack, but sort of you know, hitting certain issues.
You know, maybe TV shows will go very pro open

(51:16):
borders or attacking ice things like that. So I think
I think you'll say more nibbling as opposed to direct attacks.

Speaker 1 (51:22):
Hey, let me ask you were cought up on a
break bit real quickly. I think the area of Hollywood
or entertainment that that really is kind of shifting is comedy.
I think Shane Gillis, I think some that had been
canceled by the lefts can almost intolerance to anything that
was actually funny or sarcastic or brutally honest. It really
started to see a pushback. Do you sense any of that.

(51:44):
Do you think some of the comedians that have really
driven a lot of entertainment movies or TV shows, is
that going to come along? I know there's the Bill
Burr out there, but I'm thinking kind of like the
you know, like the Shane Gillis or even like the
Bill Maher, who's again I thought was chill out a
little bit by having that dinner with the President Trump.
Do you see any movement with our comedians and entertainment.

Speaker 5 (52:06):
Absolutely, and I think they have been at the forefront
of what we're seeing from a cultural perspective. It's not
Jake Shane Gillis, it's Ryan Long, it's Christy Mayer, it's
Tyler Fisher, it's Tim Dillon, it's Joe Rogan. I think
they really have been pushing the envelope and saying, Hey,
we want to be able to tell jokes again. Can
we just do that. We need the free speech, we
need the room to room, and we're not bad people,

(52:27):
and we're not mean, and we're not trying to hurt anybody.
We just want to tell outrageous jokes and our audiences
trust us. So that's what we've been seeing over the
last few months. That's why the whole podcast revolution was
so important to the election, because a guy like Tony Hinchcliff,
who does to kill Tony show he's not political. Joe
Rogan is not political. But they looked at the landscape
and thought, wow, free speech is legitimately under attack, Our

(52:48):
jobs are under attack. We're going to go a certain way.
At this point, we have no other choice, so I
think that's been really interesting. The next step is R
rated comedies like we used to see. That may come,
I know, Theo Vonn and David stage or just wrapped
up a movie production, so we'll have to wait and see,
but I am cautiously optimistic that that may return as well.

Speaker 1 (53:07):
We'll see a pushback. Hey, Christian, thank you for joining
us on the program. Appreciate your take, and I like
I do. I think I think there's something good coming
our way with entertainment, especially with our comedians. Thank you
for joining us on the program.

Speaker 5 (53:19):
Oh my pleasure.

Speaker 1 (53:20):
That was Christian Toto talking about Hollywood in total. He's
got a podcast you're gonna want to check out when
we come back. We've got a little to wrap up
in this hour. We're going to talk more about this
reality versus the narrative. The narrative is strong, but we're
just breaking it down piece by piece as this show
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Speaker 1 (54:42):
Hey, we didn't talk about this, but this was actually
woke up and it was all the drama, yes, hey,
And it was like, uh oh, Mike Waltz, who's National
Security advisor, caught fired and the media was trying to
make it sound like, you know, he got walked out
of the building and all of his YA staff and
it was all big time drama. Later in the day

(55:04):
Donald Trump, President Trump puts out an announcement that says
he's pleased to announce that he's nominating Mike walt Mike
Waltz to be the next United States Ambassador to the
United Nations, which is no small gig. That's the important
position and requires Senate confirmation. That's going to be a
big deal. A yeah, but but what do you think
is going on there? I mean, why, why do you

(55:25):
think he's I know, he was part of that whole
signal gate and he had actually accidentally put the that
journalist on the on the thread where they were talking
about the hohoy.

Speaker 2 (55:36):
I honestly don't know that we really know who did that, right,
because there was some speculation that it was wasn't it
his deputy who was in charge of that or I
don't know what.

Speaker 1 (55:46):
His deputy and they did the forensics. I think the
story of that ended up being that sometimes your phone
will give you recommended when you like updates on your context,
and they clicked on updating the contact and it added
a number to a name that wasn't part of that.
So anyway, Yeah, but I don't know if it seemed
like it was under adverse situations or conditions he got,

(56:09):
he was let go, but then when you saw him
elevate to a high position in the administration, it left
a lot of people wondering.

Speaker 2 (56:16):
A very high and influential position. By the way, representing
US as the UN ambassador, I would think that person
is going to have to have a lot of guts.
With Trump as president, right, there's going to be they
will be pushing back against the UN, hopefully defunding it
at the same time, pushing back against the efforts that
the UN has been making that have impacted Americans very negatively.

Speaker 1 (56:39):
And how about Secretary of State Mark or Rubio handling
the duties of National Security Advisor. He's like a utility knife,
Like I didn't know this before today, But he's also
in charge of the archiving, you know that the archives
of what they keep and what the administration can He's
doing that. He's got a couple other areas that he's
overseeing right now.

Speaker 2 (56:59):
And I think it's interesting because a lot of us
when Rubio's name first came up, I think there were
in this administration back at the beginning, a lot of
us kind of are, yes, sure, Marco Rubio is a
little establishment right, yes, and he has just done a
stellar job. And obviously Trump agrees with that.

Speaker 1 (57:17):
Well I do. I think he's one of the shining
uh members of this cabinet. And and it's it's amazing
because even in that dust up at the in the
Oval office with Zelensky, when when Vice President Vance and
Trump are really really taken aback by what Zelensky was saying,
you look on that couch at Secretary of Marco Ruby.
He's a stone faced. He's got not one thing to say.
He knows in his mind they had worked so hard

(57:40):
to get to this moment. They had there had been
so much you know, you don't just start negotiating when
the cameras go live. There is so much backward. Everything's
been signed, everything's been great, every you are. It's a
ceremonial moment. And he is sitting there and you know,
in his mind he's thinking, this guy is unwinding everything
we've been working with. That's rights. Yeah, and it's just

(58:02):
his face right there. Anyway, I'm impressed with him. I
think he's doing a great job.

Speaker 2 (58:06):
And by the way, after all of that, there was
that deal sign that we talked about. Was it yesterday
yesterday before, right, So success came out of those interactions
despite all of the efforts of the left and Zelensky
to upend it all.

Speaker 1 (58:20):
Well, he got Zelenski, I think I sold a bill
of goods. He was told, hey, you push back on him,
and you know, cameras are on. You know, you're gonna
get them to cave or whatever. And then he got
all that praise from all those European countries, and then
when he went to talk to him, they're like, you know,
actually we actually need their Russian oil. Sorry. I think, yeah,
we'll give you money, but we give actually Russia more
money because we need their gas and oil. So yeah,

(58:43):
good luck, buddy. We're gonna we're gonna put emojis and
thumbs up on the social media and we'll put your
flag on our on our profile page. But yeah, we're
gonna go keep buying all that oil and gas from
Russia because we want to stay warm and we need
to move around and we don't produce any energy ourselves anymore.
So so Europe justly left him out there by himself.
And now, I think you do have aligned interest with

(59:04):
the United States and Ukraine, and I think that with
that economic partnership. You're going to see that mutual interest
now repel Putin and Russia away from those what they
absolutely what they came in and took three years ago. Again,
I don't think you, uh, crimea is part of it.
But look, folks, when we come back, we're going to
talk about and this is one that Rod and I

(59:26):
would have talked about before the NFL Draft. Sure Jurors
Sanders did he go to the fifth round because the
racism in the NFL. We're going to sort it all
out when we get back after this break on talk
Radio one oh five nine knrs. It's been a wild ride.
Now we Rod and I would have jumped into this
issue folks on Monday. It might have been it might

(59:48):
have led the show on Monday, and we're talking about
the NFL Draft. But I have spared you, Carolyn, any
of this sports talk because you know, I know that
while you have athletes that you is it are great athletes.
They can take a skateboard off of a building. Apparently
I saw the video, uh, and and our great or
great athletes. You yourself, this isn't what you live and

(01:00:10):
die with now as does but this is a critical
issue and joining us on the program. Someone's gonna help
sort it out with us? Is Chris or Christopher Tremulia. Christopher,
Look this idea we're talking about Shuder Sanders Deon Sanders.

Speaker 11 (01:00:28):
Soon.

Speaker 1 (01:00:29):
Many people thought he was going to be a first
round draft pick for quarterback, maybe a top five pick.
People thought, worst case scenario, he's second round. He dropped
to the fifth round. And when he did, you had
some people like a talentless Skip Bayless. This, uh, this
sports guy that I think he's I think he says
dumb things just to get clickbait. It's like clickbait. But

(01:00:51):
he just said the whole thing stunk of racism. He
thinks the whole NFL is racist. Maybe you could share
with our listeners. Is there racism? Is there systemic racism
in the NFL? And this is this why Shoulder Sanders,
son of Dion Sanders, fell to the lowly fifth round
when he thought and many thought he was going to
be a first round pick.

Speaker 11 (01:01:11):
Yeah, who would have ever Thanks for having me on,
By the way, who would have ever thought that an
NFL draft would all of a sudden become a civil
rights issue with falling for in a draft stock And
it's just the reaction to this has been so absurd,

(01:01:32):
and Skip Beles has comments even more absurd than that
that did anyone would make this a race issue, And
this is how how dumb making a race issue is.
I mean, there's no other words to use that besides dumb,
possibly stupid, but just the number one draft pick in
the NFL draft this year was a black quarterback Campboard

(01:01:56):
from the University of Miami. The number one draft pick
last year in the NFL draft was a black quarterback,
Jade and Daniels from LSU. It's it's impossible to find
where the racism is.

Speaker 3 (01:02:15):
In the in the.

Speaker 11 (01:02:16):
NFL draft, where black quarterbacks are drafted number one back
to back years. The majority of the people drafted in
the NIFL draft are black, I mean, where it's just
I want to say that, yeah, maybe Skip Bayles does
things for clicks, but I just literally think this is
a lot of how left wingers and especially in the

(01:02:37):
media think a lot of times anytime there's like a
adversity or agreements, they automatically just have to jump to racism,
as if this is just this underlying theme this system.
It's just like it's so frustrating and aggravating that it
doesn't make any sense, and it's just I think it
was actually just if it wasn't just for click, it

(01:03:01):
just kind of shows shines of light on the whole
like foolishness that behind a lot of these racism claims
today in twenty twenty five in the United States.

Speaker 2 (01:03:12):
Yeah, and we have been talking this whole afternoon about
this idea of the battle of narrative versus reality. This
is one more of those. And I love the point
that you made about how this shines a light on
really the absurdity of a lot of these claims of racism. So,
but we've had a lot of this coming out of
the NFL right in the past few years. We saw

(01:03:32):
it with Kaepernick, We've seen I think a lot since then.
And last year we had end racism in the end Zone.
So tell me, do you think that that messaging actually
changed what was going on in Hunt?

Speaker 1 (01:03:46):
If we had end racism in the end zone?

Speaker 11 (01:03:48):
What like that? That's what makes it even more. It's
like you and this is like a bad Saturday and
Late Life skit where you would come up with this
or some poor like comedy sketch. Because the Skip Bayless
made the comment that there there are there too many
white people in charge of the NFL. I mean these
these are the same white people who you know, provide,

(01:04:12):
you know, have teams that they spend billions that are
worth billions of dollars, that they give black athletes predominant nfls,
predominant black leave millions of dollars. But then forget that
part for a minute. They've supported and embraced this pivot
towards like the social justice left programs. The NFL has
done this after the George fly Floyd rides. I think,

(01:04:35):
if I have the facts correctly, if they signed like
a ten year commitment for like two hundred and fifty
million dollars where they would put push all these like
left wing social justice initiatives, which is why you see
the end racism in the end zone, and like the
the the messages that are on the back of helmets
and all the other like ridiculous stuff that they do.

(01:04:56):
That that's just all these social justice programs. So it's
it's almost possible to see where's all this racism occurring
when they're doing nearly everything you could possibly want out
of a progressive's heart is going into the NFL here,
and for people to even jump to this, it just
kind of shows I think the you know, claims now

(01:05:17):
racism people should just like not take seriously for a
lot of times, especially in instances like this, because they're
just I don't know if it's just they're trying to
rile people up or they're just so far fanatical that
they believe these types of things. Yeah, it's just but
it it gets ridiculous at this time, and there's no
other words for it. It's just absurd.

Speaker 2 (01:05:39):
And I think it's just become very reflexive right from
the left and absolutely so, I think what you're telling
us is that virtue signaling from professional sports organizations does
not make us better people.

Speaker 1 (01:05:51):
Is that what you're trying to say.

Speaker 11 (01:05:52):
It might make us worse, or at least certain people worse.
I mean, it's just kind of jump into those things where,
like I said, you have Shood or Sanders for whatever reason,
he dropped he's this million the son of a Deion
Sanders so and I think he had like a million
dollar nil so, I mean he was like a well off,
you know, already a millionaire. And now and another thing

(01:06:16):
is that after I wrote that and now more factor
kind of coming to light here was just that it
was probably his poor attitude and interviews, his lack of
preparation interviews, his dismissive attitude, and then the fact that
he was his college football performers wasn't really the greatest
production on record. He had a mediocre record as a

(01:06:36):
starting quarterback, he didn't show up to NFL drant or
he refused to participate in NFL Draft combine. So there
were things that he was responsible for. But in this
world just automatically lets just jump to racism and you know,
anti white comedy. I mean, how could you just go
from football to just automatically jump into like this anti
white stuff as like the first thing. It's just it's

(01:06:58):
really sad commentary of where we are as a society.

Speaker 1 (01:07:03):
And you and you nailed it. You said that it
makes us worse. I blame Roger Goodell. I think Roger Goodell.
I've never been a fan of this guy as our
NFL commissioner, and I think he has played so I mean,
it even even influences how our NFL half to our
super Bowl halftime shows are produced and who produces them.
And I'm just telling you he has so bowed to this,

(01:07:25):
this movement of end racism or this you know, just
politically correct or woke mentality that he I think you
reput you so and I think he leaves himself open
to this criticism. Here's a here's a concept, and you've
touched on it. But I want to know if you
if it sounds like it could be reasonable. Shadur Sanders
did not participate in the NFL Combine. That's where every

(01:07:46):
athlete who wants to be drafted, first round, second round,
any round, they're invited and then their their their performance,
they're forty, their bench press, all these is compared from
player to player. He didn't go. He would not interview
with every team except for the top five that or
the top five picks in a draft. Don't you think
somewhere along the line, these owners thought to themselves, if

(01:08:07):
we let a guy who completely ignores our combine, doesn't
want to interview with all the teams, get a first
round pick and get rich, do you think we'll get
more of that? Do you think any first round prospect
will ever come to a combine again, if you don't
have to come, I mean, don't you think he can?
I think he made his own bed truly.

Speaker 11 (01:08:24):
Well, absolutely, and there is definitely a point that we
made on that. But here's the other thing too. When
you're being drafted number one and being a quarterback and
a prize quarterback prospect, you're basically being handed the keys
that are franchised. You want some person who has those
keys to be a productive, good player. You don't want
to give them to someone that's not going to do well.

(01:08:44):
So there was an investment involved too in this from
an NFL owner's perspective, that are we going to be
investing in the right person, And they have every right,
every decision choice to make that they want to do
it to the right person. Here's the other caveat though,
just because Shadora Sanders was picked in the fifth round
doesn't necessarily mean his NFL career is going to be

(01:09:06):
a bad NFL career. The greatest quarterback of all time,
Tom Brady, everyone, I think those as you know that
they probably didn't, they probably heard a thousand times at
the draft, was you know picked as the sixth round
draft pick? Uh Kurt Warner, who's in a Hall of
Famer quarterback who took two NFL franchises to Super Bowls.
Wasn't even drafted. Tony Romo, who was a famous Dallas

(01:09:29):
Cowboys quarterback, one of the best in their franchise history,
wasn't drafted.

Speaker 1 (01:09:33):
So was the last guy drafted.

Speaker 11 (01:09:35):
Mister exactly brought to took a team to a Super Bowl.
So there's just because you were drafted in the fifth round.
Isn't like this, you know, sign of oppression somewhere, the
size that you're you're just it's just this uh you know,
uh civil rights mishapper slight or it's just it's so absurd.

(01:09:56):
It's just it kind of I one day you we
eventually get past this whole thing and started going back
to assessing things in reality and not just like this
virtuously knowing outrage culture and hysterics that we have now.

Speaker 1 (01:10:10):
Christopher Tremolia, thank you so much for joining us on
the program. You're one hundred percent right, and I think
it's moments like this and what's going to happen next
in terms of all this that really exposes this racism
narrative to be a false narrative. It's not reality. Thank
you for your piece. I love the piece, and thanks
for joining us on the program.

Speaker 11 (01:10:26):
No problem. Thanks for having me take care.

Speaker 1 (01:10:28):
Thanks for Tremoia from the Washington Examiner talking about whether
or not the NFL was in fact racist when it
did not picture dors Sanders high in the draft. He
was a fifth round draft pick of the Cleveland Browns. Okay, folks,
we got a lot more to discuss when we come
back here on the Rodd and Greg Show. So you
want to hang on. You're listening to Talk Radio one

(01:10:48):
oh five nine. Cannais Rod's on vacation. Joining me is
Carolyn Fippin and joining us be guest host. We're having
a great show. I think we're flying right along so much.
It's the battle of the narrative versus reality. We've been
talking about this all day. It's amazing how when you
kind of get a swing thought in your head on

(01:11:08):
what you want to show to be about everything that
we're tracking today that's happening in breaking news, whatever it is.
It is a battle against a leftist regime, media narrative
or the left trying to make a case versus the reality.
The reality, and so I'm going to play for a
clip to your point. We're going to get into some
polling which is very telling in terms of its accuracy

(01:11:32):
or not. But before we do that, there's a well, actually,
let me do it this way. Harry Anton, who we
all love them. I mean, if the Rod and Gregg
Show loves Harry Enton on CNN and he gets so
excited giving the people on CNN bad news, I mean,
the looks on the host's face is Harry Anton shows
them the polling that they're doing, and I remember, I'm

(01:11:54):
not saying that that polling is dead accurate. I'm saying
that even when they underpoll Republicans, even when they underpoll
likely voters and try to wait those polls to show
a different outcome, they still can't do it because it's
just not going their way. And there's nobody that that
breaks the bad news to the to the left better

(01:12:15):
than Harry Enton does. So the clip I'm about to
share with you is one where they said, Okay, everyone's
complaining about Trump's approval rating, or they're pointing out the
Democrats are Chuck Schumer did yesterday. Everyone's saying, look, he
has the lowest approval rating of any president after one
hundred days that they've ever seen. And then what Harry
Enton did at the beginning of this clip which we're

(01:12:36):
not going to play. We're going to play the second part.
But He's like, Okay, if it was at if it
was at what what they were saying, Ye, who is Trump?
Who's his opponent? Well, it'd be the Democrats in Congress.
Well where are they? Thirty two percent? He's eight percent
higher than what America's alternative to Trump would be, which
would be the Democrats in Congress.

Speaker 2 (01:12:57):
And we are being told that this forty percent devastating, right, devastating,
unheard of? They have thirty two percent Democrats in Congress
who actually have the media on their side.

Speaker 1 (01:13:10):
Can you imagine that? So you get it. You've seen
HeiG Seth, Secretary of Defense, heggs Seth hundred percent negative coverage.
Everyone else is in the high nineties. Trumps still getting
ninety two percent negative coverage. All the media can do
is foll over themselves to try and find some silver
lining with the Democrats in Congress or whatever they're doing,
and yet they're not pulling higher even with the media

(01:13:30):
trying to help them. The part I love the most
is once you get past the approval ratings of Trump
at forty percent, Democrats in Congress at thirty two he
went a level deeper and he said, okay, on the
two issues that that Trump president Trump or republic rather Republicans.
The GOP as a party national party is being judged

(01:13:51):
on the economy as well as immigration. How are the
American people? What's their opinion of the GOP and the
Democrats on immigration and economy. Let's hear what Harry Enton
has to say here.

Speaker 12 (01:14:05):
Well, look here which party has a better plan? And
this is the margin among registered voters. Look at this
on immigration, the GOP crushes the Democrats.

Speaker 1 (01:14:14):
Look at that.

Speaker 12 (01:14:14):
That's a nineteen point edge. Mike, Good discritions. You really
ever see leads like that in politics these days? How
about on the economy, where Donald Trump's numbers have been
struggling a little bit, but even their Republicans hold a
nine point lead. If Democrats think that at this particular point,
just because Donald Trump is unpopular, that they're going to
run away with it like a Heisman Trophy winner, that

(01:14:34):
is not necessarily the case. These numbers should be a
major wake up role for Democrats.

Speaker 1 (01:14:41):
Should be so you know, again they keep talking about
the forty percent low approval rating. He's underwater, He's underwater.
People have lost confidence in our interviews, you know, they
talk about people that regret voting for him, that nobody
can find once you say, okay, what's the alternative? Right,
in those same numbers, there same polls where they're coming

(01:15:02):
up with the forty percent, they're pointing out that he's
that the GOP's nineteen points ahead in terms of confidence
on handling immigration, which would be I'm surprised it's just
nineteen because I'm sure handling of it's day and night better.
I mean, it's just verifiably measurably better. And then it's
a pup plus nine at the you know, over there
with the economy, with US realigning, with Trump realigning our

(01:15:23):
our partnerships, our trade partners, think about this.

Speaker 2 (01:15:26):
This is in the middle of that realignment taking place.
When it comes to the economy, right and the gloom
and doom that we keep hearing out of CNN. People
are understanding what they're facing and what they're experiencing in
their own lives, and they're weighing that against what we're
being told. And when it comes to immigration, this again
is what we're what we're seeing and hearing from our president,

(01:15:47):
what we're watching happen in real time at the same
time that many of the Democrats who oppose this are
only listening to, you know, the fact that we are
abusing and throwing American citizens out of the country without
any due process right. That's almost as bad as the
narrative is getting. And he's still up nine and up nineteen.

Speaker 1 (01:16:09):
So look, I we're gonna come. We're gonna go to
a break. But when we come back, the Democrats have
one tool.

Speaker 3 (01:16:14):
It's fear.

Speaker 1 (01:16:15):
They only know how to create fair whether it was
a Tesla takedown or we're going to play a clip
from a minority leader in the House, Akeem Jeffries. They
only have one card to play, and that is to
terrify you, the American people, And we're gonna show We're
gonna let him play it. We're gonna play the clip,
and then we're going to tell you the truth about
you know, the narrative versus the reality. So you're gonna

(01:16:35):
want to hear this and a lot more when we
come back. You're listening to talk Radio one oh five
nine Canterus.

Speaker 2 (01:16:41):
So I've noticed ever since I gave you a hard
time about the mice, will play comment because you called
me a mouse you have not used that Rod.

Speaker 1 (01:16:52):
The mice us. That's both of us. We're both haven't
you seen Tom? And well that's Tom and Jerry. But
I'm talking like looney to a lot of mice. Can
there's mice, there's plural. You and I are in the
same club. We are, but I haven't said it. But anyway, no,
but we're I'm having fun. I love I mean the
NASA like board. You know, there's a lot going on here.
I like when I sit where you sit usually we're

(01:17:14):
when Rod's here, I say where you're sitting. And I
get to be like the John Madden like the color commentary.
I get to the color commentary here. I got to
like control them the segments. And it's never, folks, that
we don't have enough to fill a three hour show.
It's actually right now, it's that we have to. We
have to cram it all in or at least give

(01:17:34):
it to you and and and you know, digestible bites.
And that's there's just so much to go over. That's
the hard part. It's not trying to find someone talk
about it. It's actually trying to frame it, uh in
a way that you know makes sense, because right we
could be a gatling gun here. We could just go out.
We I've got a stack of stuff here that we're
going to carry some of this stuff over to tomorrow
because it's an ongoing story. So we're going to carry that.

(01:17:55):
We talked about it over the break, We're going to
talk about tomorrow when we when we right before we
left the break, and throughout this entire show, if the
narrative has been if this is a battle of narrative
versus reality. The Democrats, with as much as they want
to convince the American people that that Trump is failing
and that his poll numbers are low, as soon as
you take those same polls and say, well, what do

(01:18:16):
you think about the Democrat whatever whatever you know, measurement
they're using for Trump, they're getting less, they're getting less support,
there's less confidence for anything that they're doing.

Speaker 2 (01:18:25):
And we had this yesterday too. Remember, right, Trump's doing awful.
Well what are your poll numbers?

Speaker 1 (01:18:31):
Seventeen? Yeah? Right? Which and then what did the Senate
Minority leader Check Schmer say, well, you know, polls come
and go, come and go. Just after he just finished
saying the poll mattered Trump, it was now polls come
and go if you're talking about me, I got seventeen percent,
he's at forty. You're at seventeen. Oh, that's that's nothing.
We're fine.

Speaker 2 (01:18:50):
And hasn't he been around like eighty years in Washington
he should know what the people want by now.

Speaker 1 (01:18:55):
You know what? And you know what's so funny is
that he says when they said that, he said, polls
come and go, but we're united. So somebody asked Bernie
Sanders recently about uh minory leader Chuck Schumer says that
you as Democrats in the center, you're you're united, And
Bernie Sanders said, united around what? That's what he honestly said,
were united around what? He didn't even know. So they

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don't nobody know. And it's this is why they're united
around what they can't talk about. And the only thing
that they are united around is fear. They have. They
have to create fear, they have to make you afraid.
The Tesla takedown was about how do we marginalize Elon
Musk So he stops digging, so he stops showing, So
he stops showing the side hustle and the shadow government

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of NGOs that are outside of congressional purview and and
have to don't have to follow a single federal law
because we've shoveled so much money outside of our processes.
He's found this, he is showing this. They got to
get him out of that role as fast as they can.
So what do they do. They start attacking the dealerships,
people that own Tesla's, and then the American people are

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supposed to be leave. It's Elon Musk's fault that that's happening.
So we talk about how much fraud, waste, abuse he's
found in Medicaid or Medicare or Social Security. Let's listen
to what minority leader in the House, Hakeem Jeffries wants you,
the American people to believe about that fraud, waste and

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abuse that's been found. What is going to be the
consequence of finding this and maybe not spending money for
one hundred and twenty year olds getting Social Security checks?
What's going to happen? According to the Democrats.

Speaker 13 (01:20:30):
Hurrican history, they will hurt families, hurt children, hurt seniors,
hurt women, hurt veterans, and hurt disabled Americans. Hospitals will close,
nursing homes will shut down, and people will die.

Speaker 1 (01:20:50):
Wow, and people will die. Well, they don't have a plan.
They don't know how they're going to make social security
sustainable over any amount of time. They don't have a
reformed plan to show you. But if you touch any
of it, if you rattle any of their streams of
money flow, there's money flow. That's what people are going
to die. That's exactly right. And I want to make

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two points. One of them. This is the party.

Speaker 2 (01:21:14):
They were joined by some people on our side as well,
but this is the party that said that people were
going to die alone, would have to die alone in hospitals.
During COVID, you were not allowed to be with your
mother or your grandmother. They do not care. He says,
this is going to hurt family, seniors, children, disabled veterans.
They hurt every one of those subgroups through policies like

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those during COVID and through policies that have been implemented
thanks to Obamacare that have absolutely completely destroyed our medical system.
We can't get into the hospital, we can't get into
a doctor's appointment, and by the way, when we do,
we pay an arm and a leg in. So none
of this is accessible to us right now anyway. And seriously,

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this fear mongering, that where we've gone with all of
this is just a place that it's all it is
fear mongering. Because if there were even one person who
had lost their benefits because of DOGE, that person would
be showing up on every single news station, a radio
station across this entire country and we would know their name.

Speaker 1 (01:22:21):
Apps one hundred percent. You know, if anyone ever tells
you that that the work to find fraud, waste and
abuse in social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, if anyone ever says
that to you, ask them to produce a single, single person,
one person who's lost even a penny from Medicare, Medicaid,
social Security because of and directly because of the Trump administration.

(01:22:42):
They don't exist. And you know how we know they
don't exist because they're not up there. They're out there
supporting a wife beating human trafficking gangbanger Garcia in a
Now Salvador prison. If they had someone who's Social Security
or Medicare Medicaid had been cut, we'd see them. But
they talk in this vague macro because again they're just
trying to inspire fear. So again that's a that is

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all they've got. Folks that is that is the truth.
They just want you to be afraid of anything other
than the status quop, of which they've been running quite
successfully for some time. Okay, when we come back, we're
going to go to our final segment of this Thursday show. Here,
you're gonna want to hang with us because we still
have a lot to discuss, but we got more truth
bombs to drop here in the final segment. When we

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come back, you're listening to Talk Radio one oh five
nine can Orus. I'm citizen Greg Hughes joining me, Carolyn Fippin.
Thank you for joining me this week. So thrilled to
be here. It's been a lot of fun. Yeah, So
I'm going to take you back. You and I we
worked together from let's see what the twenty sixteen sessions,
So the sixteen, seventeen, eighteen, No, fifteen, I'm sorry, it

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started in twenty fifteen, so January of twenty fifteen. So
we had four sessions, so fifteen, sixteen, seventeen, and eighteen
those years general sessions and the years you know, the
in RUMs in between, so we worked in that time.
I'm going to read you a headline and then I'm
going to ask you an easy question. I'm gonna ask
you a question. So the state Maine's state Speaker of

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the House. So I used to be speakers, so we
worked together. I had this gig. Okay, this main speaker
has banned a state representative Republican from speaking and voting
unless she recants her views about Maine allowing biological males
to participate in female sports. She's not removed, she's not

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been impeached by her colleagues, she's not been censured. But
the main Speaker of the House has a Republican member
duly elected, represents a district that so many people, and
the speaker has decided unilaterally that that representative isn't going
to be able to participate as a house member in
the state House with the views that she holds that

(01:24:56):
are different than the speaker's views. Now, my question is,
in the those four years that we worked together, was
there any Democrat? I said, guess what, King's X. You
don't exist anymore. You don't get to vote, you don't
get to speak on an issue, you get to do
nothing because you don't agree with me.

Speaker 2 (01:25:11):
That could have been kind of fun, but I have
to tell you, Yeah, do you remember there was one
time there was a Democrat and I'm not going to
name him, but he was.

Speaker 1 (01:25:24):
Very annoying.

Speaker 2 (01:25:25):
You got along with everybody, would I would oftentimes walk
away from these conversations, not when they were having them
with me, but if they were having them with you,
And I just thought, this is full on absurdity. And
I remember one time there was one conversation and afterward.

Speaker 1 (01:25:40):
I said, Greg, how do you do this?

Speaker 3 (01:25:43):
Like?

Speaker 2 (01:25:44):
You have a straight face, and you are kind. You
were you know, you were the speaker, so you do.
You're the speaker not just for the Republicans but for
the Republicans and the Democrats. But you I watched you
be very respectful and take serobiously something that was actually
extremely ridiculous. And I saw that out of you over

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and over again. And there were a number of things
that you did in order to ensure better cooperation. And
we had some talks about this better cooperation between the
Democrats and the Republicans in the House so that they
could still feel like they were a part and accomplishing
some things, things that were not violative of the principles

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that you held, but allowed them to still do the
work within reason for their constituents.

Speaker 1 (01:26:36):
And for me to give some context to that. That
doesn't mean that you, like you said that you would
just you know, give up your principles or go along
with what they're saying. Are your colleagues when there, when
you're in the legislature, they become your friends. I mean,
you don't agree on every issue. In fact, you find
that even in the same party, with as many issues
as you have going across, nobody is one hundred percent

(01:26:58):
agreeing with everybody one hundred percent of the time. I
think what I heard after I was done serving from
my friends or Democrats that I served with, is that
they actually appreciated the the blunt, you know, the truth
that that this is a bill that's going nowhere. This
bill will not it's not going to pass. It's it's you.
You've filed this bill every year. We have a lot
of bills and only limited committee time. You're gonna have

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to do some work and let me know that there's
some committee members even want to that you even have
a shot at this bill. And I didn't want to.
I didn't yell it. I didn't I didn't mean but
it was a very very frank, honest discussion, and it
wasn't uncomfortable to have. But what I have learned is
that some of our you know, it's a we're a
super majority of Republicans at least by party uh in Utah.

(01:27:43):
But well, I sometimes I appreciate the Democrats will wor
because at least if they're going to stab me, they
stabbed me in a chest, not the past, right, right,
So at least I saw coming. At least they were
honest about their position. But no, I think that the
one thing that I liked from that process of what
you see none of here in Maine. This speaker, by
the way, is one of the youngest speakers elected. I

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think this kid's this young man's he's over his pay grade.
There is and I'm surprised they've actually filed I guess
the the the the main some attorneys have gone to
the Supreme Court, US Supreme Court for relief that this
As a presiding officer of the House, I can tell
you what you do is that the body decides Mason

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rules of order. Unless they have a specific rule it
says this speaker can make unilateral decisions above everyone else.
The body ultimately decides what the speaker can and can't do.

Speaker 2 (01:28:35):
But here I'm seeing this in a lot of different areas. Frankly,
I'm seeing it in our own women's club, the republic
Women's Republican Club of Salt Lake, that we won an
election in December, and we see some of this. We
saw this prior to me winning that election. You see
this at all levels that those who think you made

(01:28:56):
a really good point that those who don't understand that
it is the boss that governs, not leadership. There are
many they tend to be on the left, whether they
are Republicans or Democrats, but they tend to believe that,
not just tend, they almost always believe that that position
of authority gives them the ability to rule over others.

Speaker 1 (01:29:17):
And that is not how these bodies function. Now this
speakers would be ashamed. They have no business doing that
in Maine. Hopefully that gets sorted out. I think the
body themselves could sort that out in Maine without going
to a Supreme Court for a quick decision there. But
it's not that's not how it works. And they would
have to have a House rule that specifically gives that
kind of unilateral power. And I wouldn't know what body

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in the world would pass a rule. A rule which
also requires the majority of the body to do. Okay,
that's the end of the show. We've got so much more.
Friday is the last day, so it's thank Rodd and
Greg and Carolyn. It's Friday. Ads up, chinned down, eyes forward,
always answer the bell and we will see you tomorrow
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