The Rod and Greg Show: Chronic Absenteeism in Utah Schools; D.C. Police Accused of Covering Up Crime Stats

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I'm excited about today's show. We have some great interviews.
We've got some uh, I think information you'll want to hear.
Uh And really we're going to dissect some of the
tactics of the left. They're just playbook. They come every time.
So it's not really even original stuff we're hearing. We're
just seeing it wrapped in different Every issue they hate,
they just used the same thing. We're gonna we're gonna
show that. We're gonna show that.

Speaker 2 (00:21):
Yeah, we're gonna break that down for you. We've got
a lot. There's a there's a video out there that's
gone viral about how this father disciplined his son. Yeah,
and it you know, we I don't think we have
any objection to what he did, but why did he
have to put it on social media? This is this
is where I think you and I agree, right, Yes, why,
I mean, what's the reason behind that?

Speaker 1 (00:42):
Yeah, I think it's absolutely not only is it none necessary?
I think it's ridiculous to be filming a family moment
when you're trying to keep you know, you want your
of course, a father wants his kids to respect their mother.
Of course that needs to be the case. This is
not fodder for social media. This is I don't know
what that's in the minds of Americans, anybody who thinks

(01:03):
they have to put on video their whole lives, even
those moments. And so I don't A lot of it's
coming from the left. They don't like that he's disciplining
his son for being disrespectful to his mother.

Speaker 3 (01:12):
I've got no problem with that.

Speaker 1 (01:14):
I just have no clue why why before the mother
thought that was fodder for a social media post.

Speaker 2 (01:21):
Yeah, we'll get into that. Let you hear what happened. Plus,
we've got a lot of other things to get to. Also,
we have two more another pair of two pair of
tickets a matter of fact, giveaway to the Cindy Lauper
girls just want to have fun, farewell to her.

Speaker 4 (01:34):
Now.

Speaker 2 (01:34):
It's taking place tomorrow night. We're gonna give you a
chance to win early and we will email the tickets too.
If you're saying, well, I can't don't have time to
run in and get them, we'll give those away fairly
quickly on the show today so you can have them.

Speaker 3 (01:46):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:46):
I totally love contests where it's going to be right away,
right now. Every time there's like months out I just
you know, I like that it's coming tomorrow. Yeah, and
you could go.

Speaker 3 (01:54):
You might not know.

Speaker 1 (01:55):
You woke up today not knowing you could go, and
you're gonna go. You're gonna sleep tonight now, and you've
got two tickets.

Speaker 2 (02:00):
To see Cindy lauper a farewell tour. All right? Can
you come up with a list of names that Donald
Trump has been called over the years.

Speaker 1 (02:10):
Oh, it's not on. This is a family show, so
I really wouldn't be able to say them all. But
none of them have been all that kind.

Speaker 2 (02:18):
No, no, but the list is long, right, and growing
each every day. Matter of fact, it grew a little
bit last night on CNN, their newsnight program that Scott
Jennings is a regular on. It began last night when
the host, her name is Abbie Phillips, introduced the show like.

Speaker 5 (02:35):
This, let's get right to what America is talking about.
Donald Trump makes himself Batman and the nation's capital is
Gotham City. The President of the United States has declared
himself crime fighter in chief, and he's taking over Washington's
police force. It is a move that the DC mayor
is calling unsettling and unprecedented.

Speaker 2 (02:53):
Let's see he's been called the Nazi Gestapo Hitler.

Speaker 3 (02:56):
Now he's Batman. Yep, he's Batman. I'll take it. We'll
take it and run with it. I mean.

Speaker 1 (03:02):
And it's amazing that that's you know, she's saying that
is if that's not a good thing. I don't know
why she doesn't like Batman, what she got against Batman.
I but uh, but honestly, for them to say that
him trying to quell the violence and the and the lawlessness,
and then this is just you.

Speaker 3 (03:17):
Know, beyond the pale.

Speaker 1 (03:19):
It's it's I don't I think it's another ninety ten issue.

Speaker 2 (03:22):
Yeah, yeah, I do too. And this is how he
should be introduced from now on.

Speaker 6 (03:29):
You're you are, Yeah, I'm Batman.

Speaker 3 (03:36):
Yes, forget hal of the Chief. We want that.

Speaker 2 (03:39):
Yeah, we Wantman. We want Batman.

Speaker 3 (03:41):
I learned that man he is. I love that.

Speaker 1 (03:44):
Batman, by the way, my favorite superhero. And I used
to love comic books. I love comic books. I love
the comic movies.

Speaker 3 (03:49):
I love it.

Speaker 1 (03:50):
The reason I love Batman is he didn't. He didn't
wasn't born in Krypton. He wasn't bit by a spider.

Speaker 3 (03:55):
He doesn't. It wasn't hit by Gamma Rays. He's just
ticked off.

Speaker 1 (03:58):
Yeah, he killed his parents and now he's just out
for revenge and he's gonna be the vigilant he's gonna get.
He didn't have any superpowers other than his strength of will.

Speaker 3 (04:06):
That's why I love you.

Speaker 2 (04:07):
The outfit's pretty cool. The car is really cool.

Speaker 1 (04:10):
Yeah, the movies are all good. But I've always been
on the comic book sid I've always loved Batman.

Speaker 2 (04:15):
Have you loved Batman?

Speaker 3 (04:16):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (04:16):
Well, the left, of course, is going very crazy on
this on what Donald Trump is doing in Washington. Apparently
they like violence and murder.

Speaker 1 (04:24):
Yeah, they do. They're they're you know, they're yeah, you know,
it's uh again. I think it's gonna they're gonna protest
until you see the measurable difference, and then they're gonna
pivot and say, well, we always wanted lawlessness to be resolved.
That's where we are. I mean, we're the same place
he is.

Speaker 3 (04:40):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (04:40):
Yeah. Now I want you to listen to this guest,
this commentator on MSNBC. He was on with Morning Joe,
and listen to how wacko he gets in trying to
analyze what Donald Trump is doing.

Speaker 7 (04:52):
I think it's really important to be clear about what
is going on here, and a relatively small crime problem
is being used for specific authoritarian purposes that we know
and understand. So let's be clear about DC does have
a really one, really big crime problem, which was the
January sixth insurrection incited by the current president of the

(05:16):
United States, and his first act in coming back was
pardoning all the people who tried to overturn constitutional republic
order in Washington, DC. When I go to DC, I'm
not afraid of losing my wallet so much as I'm
afraid of losing my vote. I'm not afraid of losing
my wallet so much as I'm afraid that my children's

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freedom to breathe will be stolen in a world where
climate change policy is non existent. I'm afraid that the
future of middle class people will be stolen by the
very things you were talking about, cutting the safety net,
cutting Medicaid, cutting rurald hospital.

Speaker 8 (05:53):
Right, so there is.

Speaker 9 (05:58):
A card you got to worry about two things.

Speaker 2 (06:02):
All right, now, let me see, let me analyze this
a little bit, Greg and you help me out here.
Apparently one hundred and eighty seven people being murdered in
your city is a small crime.

Speaker 1 (06:12):
Problems in comparison to January six.

Speaker 2 (06:16):
And he's he's not afraid to go to Washington, d C.
But what he is afraid of is that his kid
will his kids will breathe there that is polluted and
die because of Donald Trump and the GOP and Conservatives
changing climate policy. That's what he's more afraid of.

Speaker 3 (06:31):
So I got a cheat code.

Speaker 1 (06:32):
Now we're gonna We're going to get into this with
a guest later in this hour, but I'm gonna I'm
going to point out some of the things that we
just heard.

Speaker 3 (06:38):
We heard in arrogance, Yeah, we sure did.

Speaker 1 (06:40):
We heard we heard their fear mongering, Okay, making everything
everything is about fear mongering, dishonesty, trying to say that
the crime rate and and and uh in DC is
not even small in comparison to the crime going on
on January sixth, and then misery. They have to make
you hate this time. You have to think you're choking

(07:01):
on the air. Every everything is going down the drain.
You're losing your country, You're losing everything. Those are those
are just you know, I just mentioned I think three
of the cheat codes that they use every time they
want to complain about Trump or Republicans.

Speaker 4 (07:15):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (07:15):
Yeah, Well, actually, now, Greg, someone on the left is
telling the truth and telling the left what they're doing wrong.
I'm talking about se cup who was on CNN last night.
Not a big fan of Donald Trump, but she says,
I tell you what, Democrats, you are making mistake when
you keep on pulling out charts about crime going.

Speaker 10 (07:33):
Down, and the numbers can be what they are, but
also people don't feel that way. And when it comes
to two things, crime in the economy, feelings don't really
care about your facts. And I can't tell you how
profoundly stupid it is for Democrats to get up with
their facts and their figures and their charts and their
graphs and.

Speaker 11 (07:49):
Say, look, you're safe. Can't you read this chart?

Speaker 10 (07:52):
Idiots, why are you complaining. I'm showing you right here
how safe you are, So shut up and move along.
I don't have to tell you for that is because
voters told you how profoundly stupid that was in twenty
twenty four.

Speaker 2 (08:05):
And I think they're telling democrats today. You can pull
out as many charts as you want showing that crime
is down the economy is bad, as much want. But
if Americans feel something. They don't believe these charts.

Speaker 1 (08:17):
ROGI you just said it. They tried to say this
about inflation. They try to say, you have it so good,
you just have money dysmorphia. You just don't know how
good you have it. You're not smart enough to know
what the economy's doing. They're trying to say this. You've
got suspended. You know, commissions or leaders in the DC
Police Department that have been put on suspension because they've
cooked the books. And I've said it over and over

(08:38):
the way to drop crime statistics in your town, don't
arrest anyone, don't charge them, and you'll see those statistics
drop like a lead balloon. Still means the crime's going on,
whether you're charge, arrest or charge, or the crime is
still there. And if they want to keep telling the
people that live in that area, but if telling America
that crime doesn't exist or that these numbers are somehow
valid with all that's going on, they're going to It's

(09:00):
just like they did everything else they said during the
Biden administration. What you're telling us is just patently false. Yeah,
I don't care what your what number.

Speaker 2 (09:06):
And by the way, we're gonna be talking with a
reporter a little bit later on in the show who's
dug into how police in d C have manipulated the
crime numbers. Yes, that's coming up a little bit later on.
Oh by bye, By the way, one other note, we've
seen a lot of protests in Washington since President Trump
announced what he wants to do with the nation's capital
on Monday.

Speaker 9 (09:27):
Right.

Speaker 2 (09:28):
Well, the organization that actually pays people to protest, okay,
and there are organizations out there that do that. They
have seen a four hundred percent increase in demand for protesters.

Speaker 1 (09:41):
The protester business is going wild. This is this is
this is this is an upstart. This might be one
of those business you want to get in while you
know the getting's good.

Speaker 2 (09:51):
Yeah, if you're unaware, there are companies out there that
hire people and pay people to go protest, and like
I said, they've seen a four hundred percent increase as
the President is trying to crack down on crime in
the Nation's cap.

Speaker 1 (10:03):
You know why, you got to rent them because there's
no one that's really willing to go out there and
do it on their own because they're not that mad.
But you got to create the perception of the fear
and the everything else.

Speaker 2 (10:12):
Hey, there are a lot of homeless people in DC.
They'll take the money and protest. Yeah, I don't know
what they're protests, the hand, protest anything. All Right, We've
got a lot to get to. Today's so good to
have you along for the ride on this Wingman Wednesday
and Utah's Talk Radio one oh five nine knrs. All right,
you brought this up. You were in Washington, d C.
A couple of weeks ago picking up your son after
his internship there in Congress, and you brought up the

(10:34):
fact that you you kind of left a little mad. Yes,
I did a little angry from what you saw, and
the president is trying to do something about that.

Speaker 3 (10:42):
I was so happy to read this.

Speaker 1 (10:43):
I came back and reported to you, and I think
with some of our listeners even called in and shared
the same experience that when you go to the Smithsonian,
there's different buildings that cover different parts of human history.
And my experience where I was disappointed was in the
American History building that you know, where if you didn't
know anything about American history, boy, it's not going to
really give you a good sense of things. You just

(11:04):
think we're a rotten country. It was announced today that
President Trump's going to has ordered a sweeping review of
the Smithsonian Museums to ensure their exhibitions lawed American exceptionalism
and remove divisive, race baiting or partisan narratives. Well, to
tell you, if you go to the American history part

(11:24):
and you're talking about this is like recent history. It
was going into the you know, I don't know age
of television and moving up. But they put two sports icons.
One is your Dallas Cowboys Roger Staubach and they have
his jersey and then right next to it they have
Muhammad Ali's his robe with a hood on it that
he was with robe we used when he was getting

(11:45):
when he's training to fight George Foreman. You would think
that jersey of Roger Staubach Heisman Trophy winner and then
Muhammad Ali world champion. So your thriller and Manila all
kinds of different things. You'd think what you would learn
about the those jerseys and those individuals are their achievements
in sports?

Speaker 3 (12:03):
Yes, no, no.

Speaker 1 (12:04):
All it does is it juxtaposes the two of them
and describes them as Muhammad Ali being opposed to the
Vietnam War and being stripped of his championship belts and
being banned for boxing for three years.

Speaker 2 (12:17):
Uh huh.

Speaker 1 (12:17):
And Roger Staubach winning the Heisman Trophy from the United
States Naval Academy and volunteering to serve and fight in
the Vietnam War. And it just puts those two right
up against each other as these two conflicting sports heroes
in America at one time. And I don't know anybody

(12:38):
who likes Roger Staubach or loves Muhammad Ali. See these
two no's to nose arguing with each other. Are you
know the country dividing with these two athletes over It
is all contrived? Yea, it is all contrived. Did they
play sports in seventy four and seventy three or whatever? Yeah,
but this isn't the way they're describing it. If you
didn't know these athletes, the only thing you're learning about

(12:59):
them is how they took stands. One supported the war
and one didn't, and one has a racial narrative and
a and a you know, you know, discrimination and the anyway,
it's just it's just sad.

Speaker 2 (13:12):
So they talk about their achievements on the football field, because,
as you mentioned, Roger won the Heisman also took the
Cowboys to several Super Bowls, served four years. Because he
was a graduate of the Naval Academy, he had a
four year commitment. The Cowboys were willing to wait to
bring him on. And then you hald Mohammad Ali, who
I think you're a boxing fan. I think most boxing

(13:33):
fans Ali the greatest boxer of all time.

Speaker 1 (13:36):
Yeah, he's he's easily one of the greatest has ever fought.
And we love him and he and he was he
had he was provocative. Roger Staubach really not. It was
such an odd pairing of the two next to each other,
the jersey in the road, next to each other with
this same description. They do mention the championships, belts and
the Heisman Trophy and things, but only asn't aside. What
was really discussed is how these two sports icons channeled

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the debate over the you know.

Speaker 2 (14:02):
The War of America, the Vietnam War. Yeah, you know,
it's said too. I mean, we're now counting down the
days and the clock to our two hundred and fiftieth
anniversary that will take place next to July. What the
president is doing is basically saying, can you review shouldn't
these museums, and there are a lot of them in
the nation's capital that if you haven't seen them, I

(14:24):
would urge you to go. They're really good museums. But
to celebrate America instead of we know we have mistakes,
we know we've had challenges. You know, America, really we're
not a perfect nation. We're working toward it, but we
are not a perfect nation. So why not celebrate the
goodness of America, the achievements of America, instead of saying, yeah,

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but we had this, and that's what these exhibits are doing.

Speaker 1 (14:48):
They do they all the accomplishments of this country. All
that has happened here is almost again secondary to the
moral failing yes to the to the things that we
didn't do right or get right. And I think it
misses the entire point. I mean they've got when you
get into other museums, they're talking. They're still talking climate change.

Speaker 3 (15:06):
Why is it? Why is it getting warmer?

Speaker 12 (15:09):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (15:09):
They want to talk about this. I love this one.
Aspects and assumptions of whiteness and white culture in the
United States. This is a this is a this is
this is something that is a sign. I came away
from Washington, see knowing this. If it's engraved in stone,
it's something in aspirational and inspirational. If it's a placard

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written by by people at Smithsonian, it's just telling you
how bad this country is. If it's in stone, read it.
If it's in a placard, you're probably best looking at
what you're seeing and you know, remembering what history told
you about it. Because Smithsonian is not going to have
anything good to say, we want to celebrate.

Speaker 2 (15:46):
We don't want to take it down, all right, A
lot to come here on the Rod and Greg show
on This wing Man Wednesday in Utah's Talk Radio one
O five nine k n rs. What are the seven
deadly sins? Gluttony I know is one of them?

Speaker 3 (15:59):
Why do we Why do we both go there?

Speaker 2 (16:00):
Because we eat?

Speaker 3 (16:01):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (16:01):
Because we like probably too much? We probably too much.

Speaker 9 (16:05):
Well.

Speaker 2 (16:05):
Our next guest and we love having guy on this show,
has come up with a list of the sudden seven
deadly sins of the left.

Speaker 3 (16:13):
Yes, and this is these are truth bombs here and.

Speaker 2 (16:17):
Guys joining us on our Newsmaker line to talk about it.

Speaker 13 (16:20):
A guy.

Speaker 2 (16:21):
Always great to have you on the show. Love this article.
What prompted you to write this guy.

Speaker 12 (16:25):
Sure, So, from time to time, in the midst of
the issues which seemed to break daily, if not hourly,
I try to step back from time to time and see,
you know, what's the bigger picture, beyond a discussion about
the border, or beyond a discussion about you know, the
big beautiful bill. What really prompted me was frankly, the theatrice,

(16:47):
which is just bad. Theatrics over this whole issue of
Texas drawing its congressional lines, with Democrats running away as
running to the safe confines of Chicago, Illinois. We're paulitics
is as pure as pure can be. And I just said, look,
it's time to you know, it's time to just let's
be honest that this has all become theater. But what's worse, guys,

(17:11):
what's worse is the Democrats. Is not that not that
we disagree on politics, we disagree on values, and they're
so passionate that they can lie or deceived directly looking
in our eyes. And what do I mean by that? Look,
the redistricting process is a political process, and it's actually
a process that the Democrats are much better at the Republicans.

(17:32):
I mean, folks in Newsah need to look nearby to California.
We're out of out of fifty two members of Congress,
only nine are Republicans. Over Here on the other side
of the nation, up in New England, there is literally
not one member of Congress that is Republican in New England.
So Democrats are much better at this. And the idea

(17:53):
that Democratic legislator can texts, you know, fled halfway across
the nation, made TikTok videos. It just caused me to say, look,
this is now what we're watching. Its theater and they're
very passionate about it. So I stepped back and said, look,
what do we notice about it? And that's where I
came up with characteristics which I decided to call sort

(18:13):
of the seven deadly sins of the left, you know,
beginning with arrogance and dishonesty, and the dishonesty and the
arrogance is seen on display for this whole theater around
redistricting in Texas.

Speaker 1 (18:27):
You know, guy, I would say that you are in
the epicenter of this movement amongst the Republican Party of
everyday Americans, common sense Americans gravitating to the Republican Party,
reading a book right now. Butler, that kind of really
makes that case pretty strongly. And I know that's the
stomping grounds for you. It used to be my stomping grounds.
So I really think you have the pulse of this
what I saw in this article, which I love and

(18:48):
I'm actually gonna make I'm going to take your seven
deadly sins of the Left and I'm going to make
a card out of it, because there isn't one thing
the left doesn't say that I couldn't put in one
of these categories. You had an article before talking about
it looks like that the bigots and or the fascists
fascists were Biden and you laid out what they did
on the wall on their clock while they were accusing
Republicans of doing that. Talk to me about transference. I

(19:10):
did not have a word for it. I did not
know how to explain that they are guilty of the
very things that they are accusing Republicans Trump. You name
it of as dependably as the best Swiss watch. Transference
is what they do share with our listeners. What what
is transference?

Speaker 4 (19:28):
Sure?

Speaker 12 (19:28):
Yeah, that I got my money's works from my college
degree at Sancho's University. That yeah, so so transference is
as a political it's a it's a strategy, it's an
argument strategy where when you know you've done something wrong
before the other side gets a chance to accue you
of it, you jump up and down, very very loudly,

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very very publicly, accuse the other side of doing it first,
so that when they come back at you, uh for
doing it, you get to try and argu you that
you know they did it first. And we see this
issue of transference in redistricting again, where you know, California
UH does what they do with the New England states
have done what they do, which are good friends. In

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Illinois seventeen members of Congress, three of whom are Republican.
And so rather than allow any of US conservatives or
anybody being fair to talk about the abuse of the
system in Illinois or California, they jump up and down
and say that the Texas Republicans are being political with

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the whole issue about free speech. They accuse President Trump
and Republicans of being fascist. When when President Trump's comes
comes into the White House for a second term and
says to universities, you know, you better allow debate and
you better allow all students to apply regardless of race.

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They jump up and down and talk about silencing speech.
You say, wait a second, you were just the guys
that were silencing speech. You did it during COVID, You
told this we couldn't talk about the problems with mass
and in terms of a race and gender. All the
President Trump is doing is trying to reinstate what is
the law of the land, which is to have students

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supply on the basis of themarts. Look we see it
now with this whole issue about the Smithsonian and displays.
And you know, I live in Philadelphia where we have
you know, the Liberty Bell and Independence Hall. And throughout
the Biden years they attempted to redo all the signs
to if you go to see anything about George Washington,

(21:38):
I mean, if you had landed here, if you had
landed here from Italy, you'd be hard pressed to know
that George Washington led the Continental you know, was a
general during the war. You'd be hard pressed to know
that he was the first president. You'd be hard pressed
to know that he voluntarily stepped down after two terms
and would not allow a third term so that we

(21:58):
could have a genuine dem or credit the public. Instead
you understand that he's a slaveholder neat things, and I think,
look good conservatives and honest people say, for all these things,
let's have debate. But the idea of the outrage so
transferrence really is it's a game. It's a political or
rhetorical game. I accuse you loudly and clearly so that

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everyone's drawing attention. And I accuse you of my worst sin,
so that when you attempt to push back on me
the listener. Just as potato potado, they both cheat, they
both steal, they both shut people down. Who cares? And
it's time we call an alan because it's part of
the arsenal and we watched it, you know, most especially
starting with COVID and now is recently with the Redistrict.

Speaker 2 (22:44):
I got a final question for you guy. You know,
when I think of the Democratic Party and my father
was a Democrat, I grew up in a Democratic Party family.
But I hearken beck and I'm not this old, by
the way, yes, to the days of FDR and the
Democrat Demo.

Speaker 12 (23:00):
He's a Democrat, he didn't say.

Speaker 2 (23:01):
Wi, yeah apparently, but yeah, I harken back to the
Democrats and that song happy Days Are Here. Again, right,
it was a song that it would do. What happened
to the Democratic Party being the Happy Days are Here
Again Party? What on earth happened to it? Because all
I see him is complaining in a moaning misery.

Speaker 12 (23:20):
Yeah, it's me. That's why I said. Look at the
at the end of the you know, the last character
is misery. And some of the other things I talk
about are envy and victimhood. Look, you're exactly right, right,
what think about the fights that they have today? It
is about you know, I believe California is up to
one hundred and forty seven different genders when you apply

(23:43):
for a state job that you can have. And so
if you're if you're offended for any one of those reasons,
the wrong pronouncers, you're a victim. You've been taking advantage
of this whole idea of you know, tax the rich,
tax the rich, the rich aren't pay enough is built
on envy. And I conclude by saying, look, they use envy,
they use anger, they create victims. And I say, in

(24:04):
the end, look in summation, you know, imagine our friends,
you know, nice people, but imagine our friends not as Democrats,
not like you're next to a Democrat, but these activists,
the angry progresses. If if if you genuinely believe the
planet is melting and no one's doing anything about it.
If you believe that America is bigoted and racist and misogynists.
If you believe that you're getting things you know stuck

(24:27):
to you because the rich are taking advantage of you.
If you believe that the rest of society doesn't understand
all the changes going on with gender. In other words,
if you believe that America is fundamentally flawed and the
world's going to hell, you'd be miserable. So think of
the last the two conventions. I mean the Republicans. I mean,
it's hard to believe, right, right, greg the Republicans was

(24:49):
the fund convention. I mean, we had Malkogan, we were singing,
we were laughing, petherident. Trump has it really you know,
over the top sense of humor. The Republican Party is
now the fun party that can relate to people sitting
down at a barbecue. The Democratic Party is a bunch
of people who have grievances. You know, it's festive us

(25:09):
every day for them. There's a new victim group that
needs to be aggrieved and taken care of. So they're upset,
and I think that's one of the reasons their approvals
at thirty percent. I think people are understanding a lot
of the outrageous theater, but I think people are also saying,
these guys are just so angry over the time. I
don't want to be a part of it.

Speaker 2 (25:28):
Festive us every day.

Speaker 3 (25:30):
Yes, it's just.

Speaker 2 (25:31):
Miserablane and misery. Now we have more to say about this.
We'll take a break and come back with more thoughts
right here on the Rotting and Greg Show and Talk
Radio one oh five nine knrs. Video that is out there,
gone viral and has had millions of looks already about
a stepdad punishing a boid's disrespect with some physical exercise. Now,

(25:52):
I think Greg and I agree that the punishment is fine,
but sharing it on social media. We'll get into that
and get your reaction to that coming up here on
the run in Greg Show. We before we talked to
Guy Sharaki a moment ago. We were trying to debate
and remember the seven Deadly sins. We don't come up
with gutty, Oh, we could come up with gluttony. You

(26:13):
went to Google and found out the other sins.

Speaker 3 (26:15):
Maybe we just feel a little guilty about our you know.

Speaker 1 (26:18):
Figure, here's here's the seven official seven deadly sins. They
are pride, greed, wrath, envy, lust, gluttony.

Speaker 3 (26:28):
And sloth.

Speaker 2 (26:29):
So we got one out of seven.

Speaker 1 (26:31):
Yeah, Now, guy Sharaki's seven deadly sins, rag anyone?

Speaker 3 (26:36):
Here he is Tuesday after the Tuesday Afternoon for rate. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (26:39):
Yeah, so, but guys Sharaki point out that the seven
deadly sins on the left, and these are brilliant because
you can dive into any one of these arrogance, violence, yes,
fear mongering, envy, dishonesty, transference which I really honed in on,
and misery. Those are the seven. That's the playbook. If
you see one protest or any of the protests from elitist,

(26:59):
the leftist, the regime media, you can find one of
those seven where they have locked and loaded that concept
into their narrative.

Speaker 2 (27:07):
One of those and that's and that's out without fail,
and that's that's their plan of attack each and every day.
It is each and every day. And that's been part
of the Democratic Party for maybe since Obama's years, or
has it been longer than.

Speaker 3 (27:21):
That, longer it's been longer.

Speaker 1 (27:23):
But the arrogance that they're always right, that there is
no space for an opinion other than their own, Their
ability to redefine any you know, moral issues, scientific fact,
whatever it is, that they can do it with a
day's notice, a week's notice, And how dare you question them?

Speaker 3 (27:36):
The fear mongering that they create.

Speaker 2 (27:38):
Well, we had that sound bite with the guy talking
about he doesn't fear crime in Washington. What he fears
more than anything is that his children will breathe dirty
air because the president is doing away with all these
stupid climate change laws. Yep, that's that's what. That's fear mongering.

Speaker 1 (27:54):
That's fear mongering, and it's it's supposed to make you
feel a misery. You're supposed to be afraid. They want
you to make decisions out of fear. They do, so
the misery index, they're always trying to push it up.
They're not aspirational. I have yet to see somebody on
the left push out an aspirational message that that's not
just bashing Trump or bashing every day Americans in some way.

(28:17):
They don't have anything that they want to switch lanes.
And here's the biggest problem they have is they're stuck.
Chuck Schumer just came out with the lowest polling approval
rating in New York State. I think since he's been
in Congress as or Senate, and it's because the most
of New York doesn't think he thinks he's too liberal,
and New York City doesn't think he's a socialist enough.

Speaker 3 (28:38):
And where's he going to go?

Speaker 4 (28:39):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (28:39):
Good question.

Speaker 2 (28:40):
All right, We've got a lot to talk about with
you in the coming hour on This Wingman Wednesday on
talk Radio one oh five nine. Can't rest stay with
us news. Thanks, It's going to be interesting. How where
I think? Because we want to hear from our listeners here,
from our great listeners out there. I want to ask you, Greg,

(29:00):
when you were a little guy, okay, not so long ago, uh,
and you did something wrong, what was your mother's favorite
tactic of punishment do you remember?

Speaker 12 (29:11):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (29:12):
Yeah, do you have scars?

Speaker 1 (29:15):
There's sometimes sometimes there was a I might get it,
I might get smacked. But I think the one that
was the worst for me is when I upset her
so much she just kind of broke down and cried.
I think that was the worst. Oh man, Yeah, that
would kill me. That would broke down and cried. Yeah,
I've got a stepdad that's been been tough on me
growing up that you know, my mother's married a couple

(29:37):
of times, and I had a step dad. It was
tough on me, and and he he took to you know,
being you know he it's called a biff.

Speaker 3 (29:45):
Give you a biff in the head, or you're out
of line.

Speaker 1 (29:49):
But my mother the one that would just absolutely just
kill me where I'd rather be. I would rather be
hit till I till I can't see anymore than have
her cry.

Speaker 3 (29:58):
And that's the one that was the one.

Speaker 2 (30:00):
And that would get you. Yeah, now, would you change.

Speaker 3 (30:04):
My behavior made hers? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (30:06):
It actually did work again, And I don't think she
did like I don't think it was a tactic with her.
I think she just was that disappointed. So I mean,
that's that that hurts well. My parents I had two
different tactics. My mom, if we were bad kids, did
something wrong, we would be sent to the corner, get
on our knees and face the wall.

Speaker 2 (30:27):
Yeah, that would that would and we'd stay there until
she decided to let us go. And the nuns use that.
At the Baro Kills School, I went to in the corner.
And if you were caught with gum in your mouth,
gum on the nose in the corner. Yeah yeah, Now,
my dad, his favorite tactic was the vulcan grip on

(30:49):
your your shoulder, you know what I'm talking about. Yeah,
he just grabbed me and pinched that for a few minutes.
Oh that would hurt ye. And he just look at
me and say, don't do it again.

Speaker 1 (30:58):
Yeah, I'd get the biff and then you got you
got the cuff yep. And then but in seventh grade,
I paddled three times out of public school, not even
a private school. I got paddled three times.

Speaker 2 (31:06):
Remember when they teachers were allowed to.

Speaker 1 (31:08):
Pack, they had to bring another teacher and his witness,
and then you got to hold onto a chair and
hang out for your wife. Yeah. Whack three times in
the seventh grade.

Speaker 2 (31:15):
Hard.

Speaker 14 (31:16):
Well.

Speaker 2 (31:16):
I want to bring that up because of this video
that is being talked around about around the country. It
is a a step dad who decided to punish a
boy's disrespect, not his son, a boy's disrespect when.

Speaker 3 (31:31):
It come to making.

Speaker 2 (31:32):
You know, told his mother he he smarted, you know,
it sounded off against his mother. He was critical a
bit against the boy's mother. He said, jeez, mom, Andi, yeah,
I told her to chill and dad, in punishing the boy,
said all right, I want you to do push ups
and I want you to do squats. So here's how
it played out on the video that's going on around

(31:53):
the country. You're being shared around the country. Here it is.

Speaker 9 (32:00):
Stop.

Speaker 12 (32:01):
I said, O, did you decide you want to come here?

Speaker 7 (32:11):
Pussy?

Speaker 15 (32:14):
Come three?

Speaker 2 (32:20):
Come tell them do squats?

Speaker 3 (32:23):
Yep, push ups? Now squats.

Speaker 4 (32:26):
So we tell them, mom, chill out.

Speaker 8 (32:29):
Absolutely not.

Speaker 7 (32:31):
I'd talk to me.

Speaker 2 (32:34):
Absolutely would I let anybody else talk to me like that?

Speaker 4 (32:38):
So you don't stop, okay.

Speaker 2 (32:41):
So they posted that on social media and it's gotten
I guess several million views already from people who are
debating this.

Speaker 12 (32:48):
Now.

Speaker 2 (32:49):
The the the dad uh deciding to go on social
media as well and defended what he was doing.

Speaker 16 (32:55):
So apparently me enforcing a physical consequence without like losing
it or like smacking my kids some hot commodity, and
that there's a bunch of questions about that, Like just
to be honest, like all I was doing was he
talked inappropriately to my girl, and like I wouldn't let
that slide for anybody. So I addressed it in a stern,

(33:20):
you know, immediate way, but like I don't need to
hit my kid for him to understand he messed up.

Speaker 2 (33:25):
Now, what do you think of this, mister Hughes, because
you had some thoughts. We were talking about this earlier,
you had I'm not opposed to the punishment. Punishment seemed
fine to me.

Speaker 1 (33:34):
But yeah, and he did hug him at the end,
Like he told the kid he brought it in. He
gave him a hug after he did his push ups
in his squads.

Speaker 3 (33:41):
Here.

Speaker 1 (33:41):
Here's here's the problems I see it. I mean, got
no problem if you have a family moment where you
feel like your child has spoken disrespectfully to their mother
and that because that is something that you don't want
to see out of a young man.

Speaker 3 (33:52):
There are any of your kids you don't want to
see it.

Speaker 1 (33:55):
The variable where it's a stepdad and not his dad,
there is a different dynamic with that as well. But
I could even handle this stepdad telling the kid, not
getting not flipping out, not threatening him, make him do
push ups and set ups, giving him a hug at
the end, saying you don't talk to your mother that way. Fine,
I can't get my head around how in the world
that moment gets finds its way on to social media.

(34:17):
It's completely inappropriate. There is no reason that I can
imagine that you need to take that family moment and
and and push it out on social media. It's insane
to me. It's insane the people crying about he was
too rough on him, or he was too cruel to him.
I don't buy into that. But there is something in
my mind bizarre about wanting to post that online. It's

(34:41):
it's you know, I mean, it's society is getting so
strange about this stuff. That's the part that I that
I think is I don't know what they were thinking.

Speaker 2 (34:51):
Yeah, and I'm with you, Greg, I mean, the punishment's fine.
I mean, it wasn't that hard. The kid did ten
push ups and had to do about five squads in
your right. In the video at the end, you see
the stepdad hugging his son and just saying, you know,
don't do that again. I don't want you to call
my girl, you know, and tell her to chill. I
don't like the way you treat your mother. But I

(35:11):
go back to you know, posting it on social media.
Who decided to take video of that, and who decided
to put it up on social media? What what do
you think they were hoping to achieve? What the things?
A good dad?

Speaker 1 (35:24):
I think the mom I'm so happy to have a
spouse that, you know, teaches my son, you know good,
you know, manage or whatever it might be. Again, none
of that, there is no I mean, we're we're like
some twenty four to seven reality show.

Speaker 3 (35:36):
Now.

Speaker 1 (35:37):
Everybody's got to put everything out there, and there's just
these moments and teaching moments that you might have with
your children, have them, but it's not it's nobody else
madness for social media. It's insane to me. It's yeah,
at least if someone sees it differently. I would love
to hear from our good smart listeners because they they
they figure it out often quicker than I do. I
don't know what.

Speaker 3 (35:59):
I don't know. I just don't. I don't.

Speaker 1 (36:01):
I don't condone it at all. But I'm not with
those that said, oh, he's too mean to him, and
I'm I just think that it's not uh, it's not
for public display.

Speaker 3 (36:10):
I find it.

Speaker 1 (36:10):
Actually, that's probably the cruelest part of it all is
that you're you're you're correcting him, and you're doing all
this so everybody in the world can watch it well.

Speaker 2 (36:18):
And he did the right things in this sense. Greg
The punishment I thought was fair, and in the end
he did hug him and he said, I I love you,
and I hope you understand. I hope you know this
is a lesson to be taught. But I'm with you again.

(36:39):
We are in this world today almost anything can be
posted on social media, and I don't know what people
are hoping to achieve in doing so.

Speaker 3 (36:47):
It's it's I think it's weird. I just don't get it.

Speaker 1 (36:50):
I think it's I think it's inappropriate, and it you
lose in those moments, the moment when it's being pushed out,
you know, for the world to see it.

Speaker 2 (37:00):
Is it wrong for a step dad to punish it's
step son.

Speaker 3 (37:04):
No, I think a stepfather. I look.

Speaker 1 (37:06):
I think there's probably different versions of step parents. You know,
there's probably some that are less attentive or less loving,
and there are some that treat their step children like
their own children. And so there's just different different people
that act differently. I think when you're in a you
have a parent, and even a step parent, the rules
that you have and how you treat your parents and
how you treat each other are lessons that you hope

(37:28):
are being taught inside. And I don't think that it
needs to be done. You can't hug everything out. There's
going to be moments when you have to be stern.
I just don't think any of it is fodder for social.

Speaker 2 (37:39):
Media social media. Yeah, yeah, we want to get your
thoughts on it. Did that dad go too far?

Speaker 17 (37:45):
You know?

Speaker 2 (37:45):
Before we break, let's take a quick call here from
Aaron in Santa Quin. Aaron, thanks for joining Nstein. What
do you think of this?

Speaker 14 (37:52):
Aaron?

Speaker 2 (37:52):
Was the punishment bad was posting it on social media
even worse. What are your thoughts on it?

Speaker 4 (37:59):
Yeah?

Speaker 18 (37:59):
I agree with us. You know, you can't hug everything out,
and lately there's so much of I want to be
my kids friends, not my kid's parents, and they need
to be told what is right and what is wrong.
And I think he handled it great by being stern
with him but not going over the edge. Yeah, everybody's

(38:23):
worried about feelings where it things need to be taking
care of it in the right way. So I think
it's a great example. Yes, social media has good and
bad out there, and there are some private things, yes,
but I think it got enough views to put it
across the people. Take care of your kids, treat them

(38:46):
the right way, to teach them the right way.

Speaker 2 (38:49):
Yeah, yeah, you make it good. So are you bothered
though that he put it on social media? I mean,
was that necessary in your opinion?

Speaker 3 (38:56):
Aron?

Speaker 18 (38:58):
You know, I kind of go this way because punishment
and getting after a child, I think that should be
a personal matter. But unfortunately there's a lot of people
out there that don't know. Yes, you can teach your
child the right way, and it's a great example, you know.

(39:19):
So it does go both ways.

Speaker 2 (39:21):
Yeah, yeah, all right, Aaron, thank you good comments on that.
It does go both ways. I don't know about you, Greg.
I don't think I would have wanted my mother to
post on social media of me kneeling in the corner
with my nose to the wall when I was being punished.

Speaker 1 (39:35):
And I think what I what I heard Aaron saying,
I'm and it's and that's why we want to go
to the phones and get your comments, is that he
thinks that there are so many parents that have been
potentially led astray by the by you know, by leftist
by this, by you know, the culture that we're in,
that you can't have those stern moments, of those teaching moments.
And so he's saying that this video might serve as
an example for that. Someone else can do that if

(39:58):
they want.

Speaker 14 (39:59):
I'm not.

Speaker 1 (39:59):
I go back to that woman, that Frankie woman that
was putting all those videos out, that she was being
tough on her kids, and there's a lot worse going
on when when the cameras weren't on, that's for sure. Anyway,
I just think I just don't think that's the that's
for a platform and for social media. But Aaron does
say that, and I think it's true. I think a
lot of parents might be confused about being a friend

(40:21):
versus being a parent.

Speaker 2 (40:22):
Good point. All right, your calls eight eight eight five
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calls and comments. Coming up on The Rod and Gregg Show,
there is a video that was posted on social media

(40:44):
about a step dad who was punishing his step son
who had mouthed off to his mother, telling her to chill.
And the father decided in punishing the child to make
him do some sit ups in a few squads, right,
and I'm Mary. And afterwards he gave the child the
hug and told him he loved him. The question Greg
and I have and it's not so much about the
punishment but about posting it on social media and was

(41:05):
that necessary?

Speaker 1 (41:06):
Yeah, And a lot of the commentary is about he
was too harsh and things, and we all agree or
at least round and I agree that we think the
punishment was appropriate and it was done. But is this
something that you put online? Let's go to our call.
Let's go to our listeners who are calling. Let's go
to Jeff from Kysville. Jeff, thank you for holding. Welcome
to the Rott and Greg Show.

Speaker 12 (41:25):
Hey you guys doing We're doing well.

Speaker 2 (41:27):
Thank you?

Speaker 1 (41:30):
So.

Speaker 13 (41:30):
Yeah, I think putting it on social media media is
an example, you know, one way or the other. It's
I don't think that part's too bad.

Speaker 3 (41:39):
It wasn't like horrible.

Speaker 13 (41:41):
I think using exercise as a punishment kind of stignifies exercise.

Speaker 3 (41:48):
You know, it.

Speaker 13 (41:48):
I think I'd rather see the news in the corner then,
you know.

Speaker 2 (41:53):
Yeah, So you're saying, Jeff, that my mother was justified
and making me kneel and going to the corner and
put myes in the corner with you. Do you think
that was justification? That was appropriate punishment?

Speaker 3 (42:02):
Jeff.

Speaker 13 (42:05):
You know, I don't know about the neil and park,
but in the corner, yeah, I had to do worse
than that.

Speaker 3 (42:11):
Yeah, Jeff, I'm with you. I don't think he was
there long enough.

Speaker 2 (42:15):
Yeah. Yeah, in the corner, that's for sure. We've had
to do words, that's for sure. Shall we go to
our talkbacks? We'll talk all right here the talkback lines.
Here are a few of our listeners weighing in on
this tonight. Here's one of the comments.

Speaker 9 (42:28):
Commenting on the father. Are you guys crazy? You missed
the entire point. He put it on social media so
that he could demonstrate to the general public how you're
supposed to handle a situation like he experienced. Are you crazy?

Speaker 8 (42:48):
Come on?

Speaker 3 (42:48):
This is a perfect.

Speaker 9 (42:49):
Example of how to deal with it.

Speaker 2 (42:52):
So so we need to look for to social media
to teach us how to discipline our children.

Speaker 1 (43:00):
I might be crazy because here's my deal. I go
to YouTube for a lot of instructional videos. Okay, I
love them, my kid's not one of them. Okay, I'm
not putting my kid on the YouTube how to video.
And if we have to go to how to videos,
if you want to take your own family moment and
throw it out there as a how to, I guess,
but that's not me. And I think the question we
ought to ask ourselves is if we think that's okay,

(43:21):
would you are you ready to post your own moment
with your kid and how you're gonna, you know, discipline.

Speaker 12 (43:30):
Are you?

Speaker 3 (43:30):
Are you yourselves willing to do that?

Speaker 1 (43:32):
And if you're, if you're hesitant at all, That's that's
the point I think I'm trying to make is I
don't Again, I I don't know, So that's that's I
don't have a problem with the punishment at all. I
just have a problem with somehow this is what we
do on social media.

Speaker 2 (43:45):
Now, all right, let's go back to another talk back listener.

Speaker 15 (43:48):
Hey, guys, this story kind of reminds me of back
when I was in basic training. Whenever we would get
in trouble, our military training instructor would tell us to
quote get.

Speaker 13 (43:59):
On our face.

Speaker 15 (44:01):
And during that he would also then tell us, now
say thank you for helping you with your PT stamina
and fitness levels and stuff. But overall, the punishment wasn't
that bad, and he's just helping his steps un realize.

Speaker 18 (44:16):
What he did.

Speaker 2 (44:18):
I we agree the punishment wasn't that bad. I mean,
what do you do ten push ups and five squads?
You know, the punishment's not that bad. Again, it goes
to why do you need to put that on social media?
And you, as a parent, mom or dad's out there,
you know, why would you think I think I'll record
this discipline I'm about to hand out to my son

(44:38):
or daughter and then post it. I mean, why do
we even look people even think that to begin with?

Speaker 1 (44:43):
And I get I think that that we're outliers in
this in the in the buzz about this video and
it's going viral. I think more of the of the
criticism of this video is coming from the conduct of
the of the step father towards the child and we
I don't have a problem with that.

Speaker 3 (44:57):
I don't have a problem with that part.

Speaker 1 (44:58):
I have a problem with why parents are even thinking
this is something I need to post online. I just
think those those are family moments where you teach him,
and I just it's not an instructional video for me.

Speaker 2 (45:08):
All Right, We've got email comments, we've got talkback comments
and more your phone calls coming up on the Rod
and Greg Show and Talk radio one oh five nine
kay nrs. For the child's disrespect to his mother, he
basically told her chill mom, you know, okay. He eats
mouthing off yep, and the stepdad says, I want you
to do ten push ups, some five squads, And afterwards

(45:30):
he hugs the boy and says, I love you. I'm
just trying to teach you something about yeah, yeah, yeah,
And he put down video okay, And it's got a
lot of views, created a lot of debate. Now, I
don't and I don't think Greg does. We don't have
a problem with the punishment. That seemed fine to us.
But the idea of posting it on social media is
where we're going. Why And if you were a parent,

(45:53):
all of a sudden, you, for some weird reason, decided
to take a video of you disciplining your child, would
you put it on social media?

Speaker 1 (46:03):
You know, the best way to approach this is if
you watch that you got to think to yourself. And
I actually used to try to apply this rule when
I was in If I was dealing with an issue,
I try to flip the issue around and say, would
my process look the same when I do it the
same way? Would you yourself take those moments and post
them on X on, on TikTok, or on Instagram or Facebook,
whatever it is? Would you or YouTube instruction videos? Would

(46:25):
you put how you're dealing with your child in a
teaching moment? Would you put that out there? And if
the answer would be no, then we got to think
about why would that be no?

Speaker 12 (46:35):
For me?

Speaker 1 (46:35):
It's no because I don't need my kids. The is
the object lesson on this. I agree with our callers
that there are parents out there that have confused the
concept of being a friend to your child and stead
a parent. And you and I both, I mean I
were different generations by a lot, but we had, we grew,
we were we had parents that knew how to be
parents and not just you know, they want to be

(46:57):
your buddy. But I see how society is changing, and
I can see why messaging or examples of a parent
being a parent is important. I just don't know why.
I mean find so I just wouldn't do it. I
wouldn't do it in my home.

Speaker 3 (47:10):
I wouldn't.

Speaker 1 (47:10):
I wouldn't bring a million plus eyes into my home
in that moment that I'm having with my child.

Speaker 2 (47:16):
Well, it raised an interesting question, Greg, is the discipline
that your parents handed out to you as you were
growing up as a child. Is that discipline from the
discipline you've used in disciplining your children today or younger parents?
What is your discipline like and in going after a

(47:36):
child who's been acted acting poorly?

Speaker 3 (47:39):
I have to admit I have not.

Speaker 1 (47:40):
I haven't been as tough on physically as tough on
my kids as I was I was treated. I hate
to say it, but I didn't have the heart to
do it. Like I don't have a heart to biff
my kid in the head.

Speaker 3 (47:50):
I didn't. I didn't.

Speaker 1 (47:51):
I have a daughter. She was just young and she'd
found her way. She's like three, but she'd found her
way into the home that was next door to ours.
It was under construction. It was just framed, and a
frame home, especially with stairs, is super dangerous. So I
smacked her hand very hard because I wanted her to
know that this is something I just never wanted to
go over there again.

Speaker 3 (48:09):
But man, when she cried, it just broke her heart
and her eyes at me.

Speaker 1 (48:13):
Oh, it killed me. It just absolutely layed me. You're
such a soft Oh. I just I believe spare the rod,
spoil the child. I believe it with all my heart.
I have a hard I have a hard time bringing
myself to, you know, to do it. But that said,
I think that I was serious enough, and I did.
We did have punishments, we did have consequences for behavior,
and I I got lucked out too. I mean a

(48:33):
lot of parents. I have a lot of friends that
go through a lot more with their kids than I did.
My kids, their heads are screwed on pretty straight. I
think it probably their mother. She's she can she can
get you know, chippy when she needs to.

Speaker 18 (48:44):
So.

Speaker 2 (48:44):
Yeah, and as I, as I grew older, you know,
me and my brothers grew older, we worked for my dad.
He owned grocery stores. And the worst punishment he ever
gave me he fired me. Really, I was late for work.
I'd been goofing around to school. Fridays are busy. Yeah,
I pulled in to go to work. The place was packed,
It was busy, right. I walked in. My father says,

(49:05):
where you've been? I told them. He said, good, you're fired.
Get out of here.

Speaker 3 (49:08):
Wow, and your dad. Everybody in town and your dad.

Speaker 1 (49:11):
So when they fired, when he fired, you, boy, it
was talk to the town.

Speaker 2 (49:15):
All right, let's go to our talkback line.

Speaker 12 (49:18):
Help.

Speaker 17 (49:19):
But think about all these young parents that are struggling
with kids that need discipline, and these videos could be
very helpful for new parents. Kids don't come with owners manuals.

Speaker 2 (49:35):
Yeah, kids don't come with owners' manuals. But do you
want to go to YouTube to learn how to discipline
your sense?

Speaker 1 (49:41):
From the calls and the talk back lives, we're just
old fogies here.

Speaker 3 (49:45):
It seemed to be a lot more.

Speaker 1 (49:46):
Comfortable with the putting on social media. They're teaching moments
with their kids. I'm I'm not, but maybe it maybe
it's uh, maybe it's a lot. It's it's a lot
more acceptable than I'm digesting.

Speaker 2 (49:58):
All right, moment, here are a few emails coming to us.
This a email from Dave. He says father had been
through s R e S Training whatever that is. I'm
not sure what that is. In the air force. He
used the abuse and training techniques used against him in
training as an Air Force officer and applied them to
me in elementary school. We'll never for forgive him cruel.

(50:21):
I can't say that word. Methyeah, yeah, cruel something no
social media back then. Here's another one. This is from Lisa.
She writes to the show says, for the question tonight
about the parent putting discipline action online. I always think
what will this do to the future CEO or when
he's trying to get into college or when someone googled

(50:43):
his name? Would you want to do that to your
child as they are adults?

Speaker 1 (50:49):
Yeah, and this kid handle it well. I mean he
took his pony, he did what he was asked to do.
Maybe that doesn't harm him. But again, you know, those
the actions live. You don't know how all that's going
to roll out, and what would the what would that
if it's a digital if it lives forever, and as
those kids get older, what does that impact their you know,
as the digital search as people do for employment and

(51:11):
everything else.

Speaker 3 (51:11):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (51:12):
I'm you know, maybe I'm just too old for all this,
but I I just wouldn't put my I wouldn't put
that on display.

Speaker 2 (51:18):
Here's another comment from one or our talkback listeners.

Speaker 14 (51:21):
You know, on this video being posted. I think it
was not appropriate on when you're disciplining the child, you
and then invite his friends over to discipline them right
in front of him, And that's what you do when
you're posted on social media. Yeah, he may have been
trying to show some example of how to do it,

(51:44):
but you know you can show an example another way
without disciplining your child.

Speaker 2 (51:50):
Good point. Good point putting it on social media. I
don't know if that works. All right, more of your
calls and comments coming up right here on the Rod
and Greg Show and Utah's Talk Radio one oh five. Okay,
all right, Gary is an Ogden tonight with some thoughts
on this story about a dad who posted his discipline
on social media. Gary, what do you think of this?

Speaker 4 (52:11):
I think it is fake and they recorded that. Like
Greg was asking, why did they record it and why
did they post it? It's to get a viral video,
get everybody talking about it and seeing it. People wouldn't
record that and post that. And you're right, it's just
not that it's not a great topic. I think we've
got great discussion. But if we think that that video

(52:32):
was something that wasn't set up in stage. We're misled.

Speaker 2 (52:36):
That's very I didn't even think about that anymore. You
almost can't trust anything anymore.

Speaker 3 (52:42):
You wonder.

Speaker 1 (52:42):
I mean, I think he brings up a point. Let's
go back to the phone. Let's go to Mindy and
Spanish fork. Mindy, thank you for holding. Welcome to the show.
What do you think about all this?

Speaker 19 (52:51):
I don't understand this whole Instagram like people posting things
with their kids trend. I think it's narcissistic, like what
makes them the authory? It's personal, Leave it between you
and your kid.

Speaker 1 (53:04):
You know what my mindy, if you heard Queen Bee,
this is her this is her theory that people are
just so narcissistic now they have to record everything about
themselves and their lives and push it out there for
one's approval. And then there's the question of that The
last caller said is when you do that, is it
actually even real what you're doing?

Speaker 3 (53:22):
And so and you don't really know, do you.

Speaker 1 (53:24):
But I do think that that it's it's out of
bounds for me. I've heard people say that these videos
and these examples could be can help parents understand the
difference between parenting and being a friend. I wouldn't put
my kids on display that way.

Speaker 3 (53:37):
I wouldn't do it. But you know that's me. Maybe
I'm old fashioned. I don't know.

Speaker 2 (53:41):
Well, were you telling me that they get money for clicks?

Speaker 3 (53:45):
Yeah? You do.

Speaker 1 (53:45):
There is mark You can monetize your sites by how
much traffic you can generate, and there's and there is
that as well.

Speaker 4 (53:52):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (53:52):
So wasn't Andy Warhol who said everyone will have fifteen
minutes of fame at some point in their life. Yeah,
I think it counts down to about five seconds of fame.
But people are getting it when they do things like this.
And and maybe, as Gary pointed out, maybe this was
all planned. I mean, who would set it? I mean,
this is something that it didn't happen instantaneously, right or
maybe it did. But who's taking the video? Did Dad

(54:15):
set up the camera and the video?

Speaker 1 (54:17):
I was thinking if I was trying, when I was
trying to get my head around thinking, well, maybe it's
one of those cameras that's like a security camera or
something and your house don't but but yeah, it could
be contrived, it could be real. But I just I'm again,
and if if they were if their point was that
they wanted people to click on it and make it

(54:37):
viral and pay a lot of attention to it. We're
paying attention to it. We're talking about it. Yeah, I
know it's been on different you know, news shows. I
think are different take than the ones I've heard, is
that people are just all about whether his punishment was
appropriate or not. Got no issue with that. I think
that I.

Speaker 3 (54:52):
Thought it was handled fine.

Speaker 1 (54:53):
Yeah, I'm more and I'm just thinking, I don't understand
why you would post it.

Speaker 2 (54:57):
Yeah, well that's the question we're asking. And some people say, Hey.

Speaker 1 (55:01):
The answers very very thoughtful. I don't disagree with what
we're hearing. I think they're all plausible.

Speaker 2 (55:07):
Yeah, yeah, all right, uh more, Coming up our number three,
we are going to talk with the new Superintendent of
Public Instruction here in the state of Utah.

Speaker 3 (55:15):
Greg.

Speaker 2 (55:16):
We are what a couple of days, a couple of
weeks for some away from school opening. Schools may already
have opened in some parts of the state, but the
state is now looking at an initiative to ban chronic absenteeism,
to battle it, to fight him. We'll find out what
they've got in the works and if they think it
will work, and why the absenteeism rate in all schools

(55:38):
has gone up over the since COVID has got in
them and it's never really come down.

Speaker 1 (55:42):
Man, Absenteeism was my wheelhouse. I loved absentism as a kid.
That was right, That was my ideal.

Speaker 2 (55:47):
Yeah, all right, we'll talk about that coming up. Our
number three on the Wigman Wednesday, This of the rotten
Greg Church. Stay with them your really favorite ad?

Speaker 1 (56:03):
I went back, I went back in time as a kid, Yeah,
I like to play hooky. Yeah, but as a parent
I wasn't, as you know, supportive of it.

Speaker 2 (56:11):
Did your kids cut class?

Speaker 3 (56:12):
Not that I know of, But that doesn't no parent.

Speaker 1 (56:15):
Yeah, I'm not going to say my kids were always
went because I don't. I'm not entirely sure.

Speaker 2 (56:20):
We are well aware that one of our sons spent
a lot of time at the Davis Lanees bowling out
during school.

Speaker 3 (56:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (56:28):
So, and how do we know that because we knew
people who worked there.

Speaker 3 (56:31):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (56:31):
I would just kind of everybody knew your dad in town.
You couldn't get away.

Speaker 2 (56:35):
Well, no, I couldn't. I couldn't get away with your kids. Well,
here in the state of Utah, the state board is
unveiling a new state initiative trying to battle chronic absenteesm
let's find out more about joining us on our any
Our newsmaker line is Molly Hart. She is the new
state Superintendent of Public Instruction. Superintendent Heart, how are you
and welcome to the Rodd and Greg Show. Congratulations on

(56:57):
your appointment and thanks for joining us.

Speaker 8 (57:00):
Well, glad to be here and thank you very much.

Speaker 1 (57:03):
So tell us chronic absenteeism. I can imagine with COVID
and how the school experience was interrupted for such a
prolonged amount of time getting back to it as you know,
how you do that, it would be, it would have
its challenges. Superintendent, how do you see school districts dealing
with this going forward?

Speaker 8 (57:24):
Well, in a variety of ways. And you know it's
it's a careful balance, right, So you don't want to
you want to get students back in class, in class,
you know, having the experience with the teacher face to
face is obviously the ideal. But students miss for a

(57:48):
variety of reasons, and and we try to do the
best in education we can do to help them keep
up and provide support and and provide makeup work and
work after school. So it's a it's a careful balance.
We'd sure like to see those kids in school every

(58:09):
day for for the one hundred and eighty days that
they they're scheduled to be in school. So, you know,
we we we try to educate parents, we try to
educate students. There's there's challenges and competitions and and just
making sure that school has activities and is welcoming to students.

(58:36):
Each community has has tried, you know, ways that are
unique to their communities, and we're just trying to lend
a hand statewide with some clear messaging, some common language,
and some opportunities to really just send home the message
that that we want students in our schools. We we

(58:59):
can't teach them if they're not there, and we just
want them there, Superintendent.

Speaker 2 (59:04):
I mean, I would think one of the issues here
is to convince parents, of course, to make sure their
children get to school. How do you how do you
get that message to mom and dad saying they need
to be here, it's important to do that. I mean,
how do you get that message to them?

Speaker 8 (59:18):
Well, you just keep keep sending it home and you
bring them into the school you show them what we're doing.
We are as transparent as possible about what's happening in
the classroom. You you show them what they're You know
what what happens when students miss instruction? Uh, you know,

(59:42):
it has long term effects. It's it when a student
falls behind, especially in the early grades, it is so
hard to catch them up. And and you know there's
a window for.

Speaker 1 (59:58):
That.

Speaker 8 (59:59):
It is still to teach students how to read and
basic numerical practices, and we really need to take advantage
of those early years. It gets so much harder. And
then in the high school years, we're helping students prepare

(01:00:19):
for the workforce. And let me tell you, our workforce
partners want graduates who show up to work and want
students who can work with people to solve problems. So
we try to connect it to the consequences. But at
the end of the day, you know, it's a parent's choice.

Speaker 1 (01:00:37):
You know, you speak of how critical it is early on.
I remember that if a child was not reading at
grade level by third grade, they'd spend the rest of
their time in special education with an individual education plan.
If they didn't get to that proficiency by third grade.
Let me ask you this not to every note of
all such family households look like mine. But my mother

(01:00:57):
was a single mother, so the supervision might have been
a lot less.

Speaker 3 (01:01:01):
Do you see.

Speaker 1 (01:01:02):
That absenteeism with students might be coming from the makeup
of a family where the supervision might not be as close,
or parents actually dismissing the importance of attending school. Is
there a percentage that we're talking about here with kids?

Speaker 8 (01:01:16):
I wish that it was easy to narrow that down.
We are at twenty three point eight percent of students
are chronically absent, and it runs the gamut of students that,
like you say, don't have the supervision all the way

(01:01:37):
to students are taking a trip to the southern hemisphere
where the weather is good during our school months. So
I wish it was targeted so that we could target
our resources and really just take care of the problem.

(01:01:58):
But there's many factors that go into this. We also,
you know, this rate has doubled since the pandemic, and
it's because we've made uh There's been a shift in society.
Work can be done from a lot of different locations,
and so it there's a lot of factors that play here.

Speaker 13 (01:02:19):
And but at the.

Speaker 8 (01:02:20):
End of the day, interactions between humans and something as
as unique and complex is as as teaching a student
something like reading skills or math skills or uh, the
ability to create, communicate and create clear arguments and those

(01:02:46):
types of things they require face to face human interaction.

Speaker 2 (01:02:51):
Do you see I did you did this trend? This trend,
this absenteesm trend begin before COVID, En did COVID just
throws some fuel on the fire.

Speaker 8 (01:03:05):
That's is so many things have changed, that's really hard
to say. What we do know is it doubled so
since COVID, so twelve point two before COVID. That that's
not good, of course, but it's not the worst thing

(01:03:28):
in the world. I really think it's not just the pandemic,
but it's the result of the result of the pandemic.

Speaker 9 (01:03:38):
Uh.

Speaker 8 (01:03:39):
You know, some laws were changed about what is considered
an absence, and you know you used to have to
justify absences, and that law was changed so you could
you could just say my child was absence. Yeah, you
didn't have to give any sort of justification, and so

(01:04:00):
that made it, you know, that chipped away at the
level of seriousness. I suppose, so I would say that
I would never say that it wasn't an issue before
the pandemic. We are always concerned about students that don't
show up to school, But to have twenty nearly twenty

(01:04:23):
four percent of our students and to have it cross
grade levels and cross differing economic statuses, that that is
pretty remarkable, not in a good way.

Speaker 1 (01:04:38):
Well, this all sounds daunting and tough. My last question,
superintendent and I and again, you've got enough on your plate.
It sounds like that I had thought I came across
some information that even teacher absenteeism is different today post
COVID than it might have been pre COVID. Are you,
as of superintendent public schools in Utah, are you experiencing
any of that absenteism among your educators as you're trying

(01:05:02):
to grapple with these other issues.

Speaker 8 (01:05:05):
Sure, the education, yes, we are seeing a trend that
mirrors the rest of the workforce where our adults are
are absent as well. We don't track that as as clearly.
The data is not as as clear. Like there are

(01:05:25):
teachers that are gone from schools on say they also
coach and they're accompanying the teams to a sporting event.
There's professional development. So when you talk about teacher absences,
there's a lot of reasons that a teacher is absent

(01:05:47):
from a classroom, So that requires more study. It did
come out in some when we were looking into absenteeism,
and it's something that we're that's getting a little closer,
but we don't you know, a teacher being a teacher
is going to be hard pressed, you know, to say

(01:06:10):
I'm not going to accompany the debate team to an
all day tournament at you know, and it be fair
to call that an absence from work.

Speaker 3 (01:06:21):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:06:21):
A final question from me, superintendent, how do you how
do you define chronic absenteeism? I mean, if you've got
a student skipping occasionally, is that chronic absenteeism? Is it
on a regular basis? How do you define it?

Speaker 8 (01:06:34):
Absolutely, it means missing ten percent or more of the
school year, which here in Utah is about eighteen days
or nearly a month of instruction for any reason, excused
or unexcused. So it's got a definition in It's not tarties.
We're talking about not showing up to school for the day.

Speaker 2 (01:06:58):
Superintendent, thank you for your time again, we appreciate it.
We hope to have you on again. Thank you, thank you.

Speaker 8 (01:07:03):
Thank you, absolutely thank you.

Speaker 4 (01:07:05):
All right.

Speaker 2 (01:07:05):
That is Molly hartch She is the state Superintendent of
Public Instruction. Eighteen days, a lot of dates.

Speaker 3 (01:07:11):
Nothing for me, Okay, I could I could.

Speaker 2 (01:07:14):
Beat Did you go for a record or something? Is
that what you're trying to do?

Speaker 3 (01:07:18):
Yeah, yeah, maybe I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:07:21):
Well, let me did you ever show up?

Speaker 3 (01:07:24):
I did show up. I was able to.

Speaker 1 (01:07:25):
I was able to somehow manage a graduating But yeah, no,
I did miss a lot of days.

Speaker 2 (01:07:31):
I missed a few here, you know.

Speaker 1 (01:07:32):
And I can tell you that you get out of
the thirteen of things and it is hard to catch
up when you do.

Speaker 3 (01:07:37):
But you know, I was willing to take that on.

Speaker 2 (01:07:40):
You did as a kid, and you you accepted the
challenge and succeeded.

Speaker 1 (01:07:44):
Yes, and I and I would never say any of
this out loud if my kids were still young, because
they actually were good students. I think, as far as
I know they were, they were great students and did well.

Speaker 2 (01:07:53):
All right, more coming up on the Rod and Greg
Show and Utah It's Talk Radio one oh five nine,
can us.

Speaker 1 (01:07:59):
Well it we for most of the show we were
at least one hundred. It's ninety nine.

Speaker 3 (01:08:03):
Oh, it's cool, We're cool.

Speaker 1 (01:08:04):
It's a it's a it's a cool ninety nine degrees
right now.

Speaker 2 (01:08:09):
We didn't, we didn't on the show, really get caught
up a whole lot on this whole uh uh Sydney
Sweeney gene.

Speaker 3 (01:08:16):
We didn't.

Speaker 2 (01:08:17):
It's kind of like, you know, okay, it's an ad.

Speaker 18 (01:08:20):
You know what.

Speaker 4 (01:08:21):
You know.

Speaker 1 (01:08:21):
What bothers me is that the Republican there's the leftists
are now saying Republicans and Maga obsessed with Sydney's Sweeney.
That's not how this started.

Speaker 3 (01:08:29):
Again.

Speaker 1 (01:08:30):
They like to pivot from their their lunacy and make
it somehow an US issue. We didn't have a word
to say. It was a genes commercial, water off a
duck's back. Didn't look anything to me. And then they
are the ones that said, oh, it's Nazism, it's it's uh,
you know, it's whatever. Anyway, they just went eugenics or whatever.
They they're the ones that said this is all code

(01:08:52):
for for you know, white supremacy in that in Nazism.
And then we all recalled and went, no, you're crazy,
and then we all mocked it. Then we have you
ever see the picture of President Trump with the gene
jacket and the jeans on. We all just walked the
daylights it. Now they're saying, well, look at maggot. They're
so obsessed with it.

Speaker 3 (01:09:10):
No, we're not well.

Speaker 2 (01:09:11):
New poll out basically says what you and I have
been saying. Only twelve percent of Americans were offended by
the ad. Yeah, it's like an eighty eight ship twelve issue.
Good job and found another he found another issue? Yeah, yeah,
I mean it's just funny.

Speaker 3 (01:09:30):
What was it?

Speaker 2 (01:09:31):
Yeah, it was twelve percent according to this new you
gov poll of Americans who were offended. I loved how
they described it as a sultry American Eagles had.

Speaker 1 (01:09:41):
Man, don't they remember the Calvin Klein ads of old
and all the other stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:09:44):
I mean said, nothing comes between me and my Calvin. Yeah,
it wasn't that it whatever Genes you was Africa. Now
American Eagle is laughing all the way to the bank.
Their stock is still way out. I asked my one
of my granddaughters the other day. I guess they went
into an American Eagles story. Can you find jeans, Grandpa?
There aren't a lot of them there. I mean, and

(01:10:07):
did you see what American Eagle did in Vegas, you
know the big sphere.

Speaker 3 (01:10:10):
Yes, they put the A on the sphere. Good for them.

Speaker 1 (01:10:16):
They're not backing down, nor should they. And I'm telling
you this is why did you know that Paramount signed
you know how they just had that big murder a
seven point seven billion dollar deal with Ultimate Fight Championship UFC. Yes,
seven point seven billion. This tells you that. And by
the way, those are the events those are that's the
combat sports that Trump goes to and the crowd goes nuts. Okay,

(01:10:40):
these are the everyday Americans. Seven point seven billion reasons
why Paramount feels like people are getting common sense and
they want to see some combat sports and they want
to see, you know, the rough and tumble of Americana.

Speaker 3 (01:10:53):
Yeah, that's what I say.

Speaker 2 (01:10:54):
Greg Guttfeld, Yes, had the courage or probably got a
little bit of extra money to show up on Jimmy
Fallon's show the other.

Speaker 3 (01:11:02):
Nightber I heard that was going to happen. How'd that go?

Speaker 2 (01:11:05):
Well? It went real well. Apparently Fallon had his highest
ratings in several years with the appearance of Greg Guttfeld
done this show. As a matter of fact, let's see,
the appearance threw one point seven million viewers. That's a
fifty seven percent increase over his highest numbers many years ago.

Speaker 3 (01:11:25):
Yeah, well, what did you learn and would you learn anything? Well?

Speaker 2 (01:11:30):
Got I thought my gifts is he'll be back. They'll
bring him back. With ratings like that, they had a
good time. It was. I didn't see this segment. I
saw a clip or two of the highlights, but apparently
people liked it.

Speaker 1 (01:11:43):
Jay Leno said, I don't understand the sense in offending
half of America. I don't see this sense of if
everyone can laugh at themselves and you're just equal opportunity. Sarcastic,
he says, that's better. That's exactly what we've played on
the show of Johnny Carson's approach of you know, not
getting overly political and h boy. But Jayleno took a
lot of grief from some of these late night people

(01:12:03):
that think that they're right in here.

Speaker 2 (01:12:05):
And all the of all the hosts, I think Fallon
is the least political. You may get a little political,
but it's not not the way I.

Speaker 1 (01:12:11):
Think that Johnny Carson and Jay Leno had to have
it right, had it right, and.

Speaker 2 (01:12:16):
Have it right, Yeah, they did.

Speaker 1 (01:12:17):
They did.

Speaker 3 (01:12:18):
Oh.

Speaker 2 (01:12:18):
By the way, i know you you're excited about this.
I've got swifty news.

Speaker 3 (01:12:22):
Oh g here we go.

Speaker 2 (01:12:23):
She's coming out with a new album.

Speaker 3 (01:12:25):
I just long to bring this up.

Speaker 2 (01:12:27):
I just realized I haven't been you've been giddy.

Speaker 1 (01:12:29):
I was wondering why you start skipping around the station today.

Speaker 3 (01:12:32):
This is it.

Speaker 1 (01:12:32):
She's coming out with a new album. Have you ever
seen rod skip? I mean, it's a it's a moment,
pretty discussed.

Speaker 2 (01:12:39):
Yeah, that's all right. More coming up on the Rodded
Greg Show and you John's Talk Radio one O five
nine o k n RS DC violence and crime story
broke with the President taking to getting in front of
the media on Monday and he says, you know, I'm
sick and tired of this. It's time to do something
about it. And boy, he has moved quickly. As a
matter of fact, you were showing, you know, we had

(01:13:01):
National Guard rolling into Washington last night, and then they're
saying today one hundred arrests were made last night, catching
you know, drug dealers, child abusers, arresting them.

Speaker 1 (01:13:12):
Today, people out on active warms that need to be apprehended.

Speaker 2 (01:13:15):
And the police chief there says, we don't have enough
people to be able to do what happened, and now
we do.

Speaker 1 (01:13:20):
Yes, And in fact, Cash Betel and his comment this
morning is that these police officers, the law enforcement officers,
want to do the right thing, and they want to
they do public resources, they need helps. So it looks
like they're getting some things done. But these statistics that
the regime media keeps pushing out there while there's a
cloud over these statistics, I'd like to get to the
bottom of. And that leads us to our guest.

Speaker 2 (01:13:42):
Yeah, we're going to do that right now. Joining us
on our any our newsmaker line is Andrew Kerr. Andrew
is an investigative reporter of the Washington Free Beacon. Been
taking a look at this. Andrew, How are you welcome
to the Rod and Greg show. I am doing great
things having me on, Andrew. You've been doing some digging.
What have you been able to find out?

Speaker 11 (01:14:00):
Yeah, So, after the president on Monday announced, you know,
he was deployed a national guard, the line from the
mainstream press and democratic politicians as well, this is unnecessary
because crime in Washington.

Speaker 2 (01:14:14):
D C.

Speaker 11 (01:14:15):
Is at an all time low, or a thirty year low,
and if you look on paper, you know, that's what
the numbers reflect, you know, drops of you know, twenty
percent and assaults and you're just across the board. But
there's been a long documented, well reported history, dating back
to twenty nineteen, of a practice in the DC Metropolitan

(01:14:37):
Police of misreporting instances of violent violent crime as misdemeanors
to to pad the numbers. There's a policeman that was
suspended just a few weeks ago in July due to
allegations that he's doing exactly that, and so that story

(01:15:01):
got a lot of play on Monday. But you know,
it turns out this has been happening for years. There's
a report back in the twenty twenty you know, for example,
a woman an unknown man came up and slashed her
in the face and neck with an unknown object outside
of the liquor store in August of twenty nineteen. She
was sent to the hospital, and the DC Police did

(01:15:22):
not report it as a felony assault.

Speaker 3 (01:15:24):
With a dangerous weapon, which is what it was.

Speaker 11 (01:15:26):
Wow, they classified as a simple assault, which is a
misdemeanor that the department does not count as a violent crime.
So this is not like a conspiracy theory or just
like conjecture like that actually happened. They're just not counting instance,
is a violent crime as a violent crime. And then
you know the mayor's going out there and be like, oh, well,
violent crime is at an all time low.

Speaker 2 (01:15:47):
Well like, oh, if your numbers are just wrong.

Speaker 1 (01:15:50):
So you know, I have said this. I'm a recovering
public servant and I've looked at data before, and I
pointed out that you know, you want to make your
crime rate drop like a lead balloon, don't arrest or
charge people. It will be amazing how fast that you
know your your violent crime goes down. Everything goes down
if you don't rest for it or you don't charge
for it. A superintendent, as an example, said, if you're

(01:16:13):
looking at graduation rates as a way to measure a school,
I can get you one hundred percent graduation rates. We
can just graduate every student without regard to proficiency. I
think that's what you're talking about. So do you think that, Andrew,
do you think that the media knows that these numbers
are baked, that they're not real, that these drops in
crime are just the way they're counting, not what's really
happening on the streets, or do you think that they

(01:16:34):
honestly live in a bubble where they think, oh, does
stats say this? And I think we're totally safe.

Speaker 11 (01:16:40):
I mean, when you have credible reports and it's a
pad of reports and from DC, you know, police officers,
whistleblowers that hey, you know, we have superiors that are
pressuring us to you misreport violent crimes as misdemeanors, to
pad the numbers. And you know, conservatives on on Twitter,
on x are very loudly calling attention to this, and

(01:17:01):
they just don't mention them, and they keep on repeating
this line, they like, oh, well, crimes at a thirty
year low, just look at the statistics, like I mean,
at some point you at the question whether they're deliberately
ignoring that, yeah, in their reporting. And it's and this
is also important to note, this is not just a
DC problem. New York City, Los Angeles, New Orleans, Columbus, Ohio,
all of those cities since twenty twelve, they're they have

(01:17:24):
admitted to doing exactly this by rigging crime stacks, by
crime stats, by misreporting violent families as misdemeters. They're this
is a this is a nationwide phenomenon and It just
makes sense that the police departments would do this because
you know, everyone you know, from the bottom of the
chain all the way up to the top to the
politicians that you know that have ownership over you know,

(01:17:47):
what happens on the street. They all have a clear
incentive to make things look better on paper than they
actually are. And that's what happens, and that's what is
happening in DC.

Speaker 2 (01:17:57):
We're talking right now with Andrew Kerr on the Rot
and Greg Show. Andrew is an investigative reporter with the
Washington Free Beacon. Andrew, I heard someone say today the
Democrats can roll chart after chart after chart out to
show people that crime is down, but the feeling among
people is that Washington is not a safe city. Is
that the general feeling you get as well.

Speaker 11 (01:18:19):
So I did a little thought experiment today and I
queried my office and I just like took account like
my personal experience. I think you'd be hard pressed to
find anyone that has lived or worked in Washington, DC
for more than three years that either a has not
fallen victim of the violent crime themselves or B doesn't
know anyone personally that has fallen victims of violent crime.

(01:18:41):
So I know someone, a former colleague who suffered a
really bad assault a few years ago, that she had
to move out of the city because of it. I
know another person who was attacked by juveniles just a
few weeks ago, and my editor he told me today
that he had to move out of the city in
part because he was set up with his cargeting. You

(01:19:02):
broken into every night. Wow, I'm assuming that's not the
case for the citizens of Salt Lake City. You know
that that's not normal. It's it's it's an outlier if
you're in Washington, d C. To not know anyone that
has fallen victim of violent crime. So, you know, when
you have so much anecdotal evidence, you know, everyone has

(01:19:24):
a story, then you know you really have to start
questioning whether like hey, you know, you're saying the crime
is going down on paper, but like, I mean, for
goodness takes a Democratic representative was carjacked at gunpoint less
than two years ago in the city.

Speaker 2 (01:19:38):
Like, the situation's out of control.

Speaker 12 (01:19:41):
You know.

Speaker 1 (01:19:41):
It just reminds me of when they were trying to
tell us that the inflation was transitory and not real.
The economy is doing famously well, you have money dysmorphia,
if you if you have any kind of if you
feel like you're doing poorly because you're not the stats
say otherwise there's no border problem. Is there going to
be a backlash Americans broadly, but even I know that

(01:20:02):
Washington DC voters don't like Trump. But is there some
backlash coming for saying that there's no crime or it's
perfectly safe in Washington, d C. When everybody knows that
that's just not the case.

Speaker 3 (01:20:13):
I think.

Speaker 11 (01:20:14):
So, I mean, you know, DC's a ninety percent democratic city,
so like you know, I mean, even if it's swings
like ten percent, it's still like an eighty percent Democratic stronghold.
So like, I don't I don't think like it will
change electoral outcomes. But I do think that what people
don't like being gas lit. And I think that people
don't like it when they know that they don't feel

(01:20:34):
safe in the city, and they know that everyone they
know also doesn't feel safe in the city, and they
know that Democratic politicians such as Eric Swalwell, who not
long ago was tweeting about how he had to to
like train his family on how to like react to
a carjacking, is now like going out there saying that, oh, there's.

Speaker 2 (01:20:52):
DC's a safe city.

Speaker 11 (01:20:54):
Chuck Schumer's out there saying that, oh, anyone who says
that DC is in a safe city is just you know,
you know, there just being dishonest when like his own
colleague Henry Koilar out of Texas was carjacked.

Speaker 3 (01:21:04):
The gunpoint, I.

Speaker 11 (01:21:05):
Mean, it's absurd, it's you know, the gas lady is unreal.
And I do think, you know, there's gonna be a
certain amount of people that get set up over it
and be like, hey, like stop lying to me.

Speaker 2 (01:21:18):
It's crazy, and they expect us to believe everything that
tell us, right, Andrew, Andrew, a great interview, Great job
on your on your reporting on this. Thank you. We'll
have you back on again. Thank you, Andrew, Yeah, thanks
so much. All Right, that's Andrew Kerr. He is an
investigative reporter at the Washington Free Beacon. And there it is, Greg.
I mean, you've got them saying, well, it's not a

(01:21:38):
it's just a simple assault. She was attacked with a
knife and her face was cut up, but it's just
a simple.

Speaker 1 (01:21:44):
You know, kids will be kids are gonna be kids
on these car jacksons.

Speaker 2 (01:21:49):
The juvenile crime and how they treat them in Washington
is another part of the story that nobody is really
focusing on. But they have unbelievably lacks laws when it
comes to you of no crime.

Speaker 1 (01:22:00):
Yes, I we on time for the clips, but everything
that my son has shared with us and has shared
with me about what's going on there, I have now
found clips of people's verbatim saying exactly what he said
is a problem from journalists.

Speaker 2 (01:22:13):
Yeah, yeah, all right, more coming up. It is the
Rodd and Greg Show on talk radio one oh five nine.
Canter s crime in the Nation's Capital. New survey I
was showing black and low income DC residents are significantly
more concerned about crime according to a poll. And this
poll was taken ahead of the President's announcement on Monday,
So even before this happened, the residents of this city

(01:22:35):
know what's going on here. For the Democrats to roll
out these charts and talk about, well, crime is actually
down and there is a small amount of crime being done,
the people live in that city no.

Speaker 1 (01:22:45):
Differently, Well, you mentioned Chuck Schumer now is saying if
people are say there, Republicans say people are scared to
walk around d C. Schumer says, I walk around DC
all the time. I feel perfectly safe. They're full of it, really,
are they full of it?

Speaker 3 (01:22:59):
Are you sure? Well?

Speaker 2 (01:23:01):
He also has bodyguards protect him. Of course he feels sack.

Speaker 1 (01:23:04):
You know this guy, this is the guy that pretends
he's grilling. He's putting cheese on some raw hamburger, you know,
meat on a grill that's not even lit, trying to
pretend he's, you know, grilling for the Fourth of July.
The guy is such a phony.

Speaker 2 (01:23:15):
Yea, he is.

Speaker 12 (01:23:15):
He is.

Speaker 1 (01:23:16):
So look we got so let's take what Schumer said, Oh,
I feel perfectly safe, okay with This is from ms
NBC from where ms d n C m s NBC,
and this is a one of their journalists who lives
in Washington, who wants to share his perspective of you know,
without without the political narrative of what he feels crime
is like in this in Washington, d C.

Speaker 6 (01:23:38):
And I live in Washington.

Speaker 3 (01:23:39):
This is personal for me.

Speaker 6 (01:23:41):
Many people are frustrated with crime that we see, particularly
committed by juveniles in the in the city of Washington.

Speaker 3 (01:23:51):
People are frustrated really.

Speaker 6 (01:23:53):
That they when they go to CBS to buy the
odorant that they have to get it from behind locked plexiglass.

Speaker 15 (01:24:01):
Right.

Speaker 6 (01:24:02):
But the response here and you know, let me say
this right, this is not These are not just random
andadotes what we see in Washington Post polling, among others,
is that roughly half of DC residents, mostly half of
DC rep view this as a serious problem or an
extremely serious problem.

Speaker 2 (01:24:22):
They know they have there.

Speaker 1 (01:24:24):
You know, and if you remember, I mean, I asked
just holding my boat, my son, I said. He said,
you can't go to see He literally said the same
place he did. He said, you can't go to CBS.
If you need dealdoring, detergent, whatever you need out of
a community store, you have to it's all behind playglass.
You have the supermarket there that did that is checking
your bag and strapping it, putting a band around it

(01:24:44):
so he can't open it, and searching it when you leave.
There's been a homicide blocks away from him.

Speaker 3 (01:24:49):
Where he's been.

Speaker 1 (01:24:50):
He has a half naked lady drunken or dazed with
drugs that he saw every morning as he walked around.
That was just out of her mind. No, the place
is is danger, my son. The things he described, we're
hearing from journalists now that live in the same city.
So they can keep saying it's it's a perfectly peaceful protest.
Is the building behind them burns, but we know different.

Speaker 2 (01:25:12):
What I can't understand is they put they put high
products that you need, deodorant, toothpaste, I know, behind a
lock and key.

Speaker 1 (01:25:23):
Just come on, Wow, there's on online. You've got a
guy who drove DC. He says, I drove a cabin
DC for I know every inch of the city to
over to see over the years of deterioration of public places.
I couldn't be more encouraged by the fact that there
are people now really that want to say let's stop,
let's let's make the place better. So yeah, I think

(01:25:44):
that I think it's going to be well received. Whether
they want to admit it or not, they know they're
in danger out there.

Speaker 2 (01:25:49):
Yeah. We mentioned a minute ago about what American Eagle
did with the Jenes ad that everybody was talking about.
They bought the sphear in Vegas and ran the ad there. Well,
do you know the hottest ticket in Vegas right now?
Can you guess what it is? I mean, they have
a lot of great shows down there. They have a
lot of very well known artists and residency down there.
Do you know what the hottest ticket is right now?

Speaker 3 (01:26:10):
Donny Osmond?

Speaker 2 (01:26:11):
No, what he does very well?

Speaker 3 (01:26:13):
But yeah he does, he kind of he does very
Wayne Newton.

Speaker 2 (01:26:16):
They have sold get this, one hundred and twenty thousand
tickets to see the Wizard of Oz in that big dome.

Speaker 3 (01:26:24):
Get out.

Speaker 2 (01:26:24):
No, I'm not lying to Yeah they they say this fear.
Uh you know, of course you two opened it up
that concert. But they have now sold one hundred and
twenty thousand tickets for the Wizard of Oz to be
seen at the Sphere.

Speaker 3 (01:26:40):
Wow, who knew?

Speaker 2 (01:26:42):
I haven't seen Wizard of You know what scared me
about Wizard of Oz? Wise kid? Those flying monkeys.

Speaker 3 (01:26:47):
Yeah, yeah, they are a little weird, the little creepy.

Speaker 2 (01:26:50):
I'm still kind of weird freaked out about flying money.

Speaker 1 (01:26:53):
And as a kid, the Whiz came out man Michael
Jackson was I think he was a scarecrow in that movie.

Speaker 3 (01:26:58):
I like that. Diana Ross, all right, that does.

Speaker 12 (01:27:01):
It for us.

Speaker 2 (01:27:01):
Tonight, head up, shoulders back, May God bless you and
your family and this great, great country of ours. Thanks
for being with us. We're back tomorrow with another edition
of The Rotten Great Children. It all starts at four

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