The Rod and Greg Show: Comparing Trump and Ronald Reagan; World Embracing Energy Abundance

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Well, it's great to be with you on this Wednesday afternoon.
It is the Rod and Greg Show. I'm Rod Arquette,
I'm Citizen Greg Hughes. We have got a lot to
get to today. We're going to talk about Ronald Rey.
In his announcement yesterday about the Golden Dome, President Trump
talked about Ronald Reagan. Remember the old Star Wars initiative. Yes,
that scared the living daylights out of the Soviet speci

(00:20):
shore did.

Speaker 2 (00:21):
Many people point to that as the part of the
arms race that bankrupted the Soviet Union when the Cold
War was trying to keep up with Trump with Reagan's
aggressive Star Wars issue.

Speaker 1 (00:32):
Yes, you're right. So we'll talk about that. We'll talk
about an executive order from the President that nobody is
paying attention to, but they probably should because it's very,
very important. Later on, Mike Lee will join us. We'll
talk about where this budget bill lies and I think
it I think you would agree with me, Greg. Neither
one of us are happy about this. I don't understand

(00:52):
why they can't make significant Christ.

Speaker 2 (00:54):
You know, they're still making the sausage. Let's hope it
comes out edible at some point. Right now, now the
stage of the sausage, I frankly got to see more cuts, more,
a lot more than what we're seeing right now. So
I believe it'll come. I'm not a negative guy. I
think it'll get there. But it looks like it's going
to take a lot more work. But it needs it.

(01:15):
It needs that work, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:16):
It does, it does. So we'll talk about that, but
we want to start off talking about the story right
now that everybody is talking about. The media in town
has picked up on this story that a BYU star quarterback,
Jake Rhetz Laugh apparently subject now of a lawsuit claiming
sexual assault. This an incident that reportedly took place back
in was it November of twenty three, so about a

(01:38):
year and a half ago. Andy woman has now filed
the lawsuit against him, claiming that the Cougar's quarterback raped
the woman and forced her to perform sexual acts against
her will. And that's dominating the discussion right now among
a lot of people as they hear the news. And
you know what, great I hate stories like this. This
is just one of those stories where you shake your head.

(01:58):
Two people are involved in this, you know, what do
you say about it? I mean, where do you go
with the story like this other than to report the
facts and hope that we get the truth somewhere down
the line.

Speaker 2 (02:09):
Yeah, no, it is, and it's I mean, there's you're
in a really awkward position. I am reporting this news
that there's this lawsuit. Everybody's innoc until proven guilty. But
the second you start getting into that conversation, it sounds
like you're already taking sides if you don't want to
take what's been accused and and take it with the

(02:29):
seriousness that it deserves and say, well, this must it's
just tough. It's it's tough. And this is where b
y u I think as a I think the culture
in Utah being predominantly Church of used vice Loarry Saints
members of And then when you get to a school
like bou, if you have athletes that are that are
outside the faith that come in, they may have very

(02:49):
similar values and morals, but they aren't the same. They're
just they're not the same. And so then where things
may go too far, there's a big risk out here.
And I think that these risks with students and college setting,
with student athletes and with the student body, it exists

(03:09):
across this country. We've heard these stories before at other universities,
but it's so it's just unfortunate. Jake ret Retsloft has
gotten so much attention for being Jewish and being the
first Jewish starring quarterback, certainly for BYU getting a lot
of positive attention. I thought he had a great season
last year. There's been a lot of positivity around the team,

(03:30):
and he is a quarterback and this certainly puts a
dark cloud over that, and maybe justifiably so. And this
is this is a crime. This is a civil suit though,
and I don't know, no criminal charges. There's nothing that
we're that's they detailed in here that wouldn't rise the
level of a crime. So I don't know why there's

(03:51):
it's not it's civil and not criminal. But again, I
don't want to be the one questioning any of it.
I don't want to be the guy that looks like
I'm trying to the indefensible. I don't know, I don't
know what happened.

Speaker 1 (04:03):
Well, yeah, well I want to You said something Greg,
just a second ago. No matter what we say, you
know about this story. If we say this or we
say that, will you know? People say, well, you're taking sides.
You're taking his side or you're taking her side. You
just don't know what you can and cannot say in
cases like this because you'll be accused of favoring one

(04:25):
side or the other.

Speaker 2 (04:26):
I'm telling you, I this is a stick to beat
yourself with. Really important this thing because because again, there's
not a political story that I'm not ready to dive
right headfirst into and tell you exactly might take you
get into this world here, it's a it's a little
more touchy, yeah, yeah, And you know the interesting party,
the interesting front.

Speaker 1 (04:46):
Yeah, well, the interesting part of the story. And this
is this information that I get from our news partner
ku TV and a story that they've got on their website. Apparently, she,
this woman identified as Jane Doe in this lawsuit, was
reluctant to share his name at first, but then she
did because Provo police wanted to talk to her about it.

(05:07):
And according to the lawsuit, Provo police then encouraged her
not to do anything because, as they claimed, and this
is pointed out in the lawsuit, sexual assault victims never
get justice. Now, you know, that's an indictment against the
Provo Police department, and you don't know whether or not
you believe it or not.

Speaker 3 (05:26):
Greg.

Speaker 1 (05:27):
I mean that's a point that is being made in
this lawsuit as well.

Speaker 2 (05:31):
And if you take the if you take I have
a daughter, and you know if I heard this, it
wouldn't be a civil suit. It might be something against
me as a father that would happen next because I
don't know that I would how I could handle it.
But I will say this, if this woman's been assaulted
is being claimed in this you need they it's it's terrible,

(05:52):
but you bear step up because you don't want to
happen again. You don't want someone else to be victimized.
And so I don't think I don't like this idea
that you don't come or because I just think if
it's if it's raised to the level of a crime,
we got to report crimes. We just have to. We
have to as people. We can't think past that and say, well,
will we be successful or not. The crime has been committed.

(06:14):
We need to report crimes well.

Speaker 1 (06:15):
And I think in today's world, Greg, different from many
years ago. I think things have changed. And if an
individual comes forward, you know they've got to be able
to come forward and share their story. And it's you know,
we aren't in their position, either one of them. And
it's very, very difficult to do, but you know, you've
got to come out with a story and the question
I would have Greg, it's a civil lawsuit, as you

(06:36):
pointed out, could criminal churches now be filed? Here? Are
we pass the point? Well, criminal churches could be I
don't know the laws.

Speaker 2 (06:43):
Make sure this story. I don't. I would not accept
anything but a criminal uh inquiry into that because it's lost.
This isn't a white collar crime somebody invested into a
business that you know they rob them of their money.
This is this is this civil suit describes a crime,
a crime of red. It's describing a crime, so it

(07:03):
ought to be treated as a crime if it's a crime. Yeah,
I don't see any I see no daylight between the two.

Speaker 1 (07:08):
No, the difficult story, and we'll stay on top of
it and keep you up to data on this here
on the Rod and Greg Show and Utah's Talk Radio
one zero five. Die knrs. All right, we've got a
lot to get to today. We do have. We've got
to mention the Keith Urban tickets today that will be
giving away as well.

Speaker 2 (07:21):
Well, Yeah, we got that, so you better hang on.
Like you know, we didn't talk we when we played
the bump when E played the bumper music, we kept
it on the down low. You you kind of teased
it earlier in the show, but then the screen went
up like at Christmas Tree, everybody knows they're Keith RP.

Speaker 1 (07:34):
Well here here's how we play it as well. When
you hear a Keith urban song coming out of one
of our commercial breaks, and if your caller fifteen E Ray,
I think we'll take color fifteen. We'll let you know
when that happens and give you an update on it.
But you could win those tickets right now. No, don't
call that very good point. All right, We've got a
lot to get to today. We invite you to be
a part of the show. Eight eight eight five seven

(07:54):
oh eight zero one zero. I can't keep up with
the executive orders that Donald Trump has signed. But he
signed a lot of yes, he has.

Speaker 2 (08:03):
Some of them are just reversing that bonehead ones that
Biden signed. You had to like undo all of that. Yeah,
that's all order by itself.

Speaker 1 (08:09):
Well, one that he has signed that is not getting
a lot of attention, but is extremely important let's find
out why. Joining us on our any our newsmaker line
right now is Terry Jones, Editor of Issues and Insight. Terry,
how are you welcome back to the rowden great show.
Great to be with you, Terry.

Speaker 4 (08:25):
Thanks, It's always great to be with you guys.

Speaker 1 (08:27):
All right, Terry, talk about this executive order and why
you think it is so important. Exactly what is the
president done well?

Speaker 4 (08:33):
This kind of this kind of snuck in, you know,
under all the flack for everything else he's doing. It's
unbelievable how how hyperactive he's been. It's it's like breathtaking
to watch all these orders flying around and things actually happening.
This was one that you know, and it's really uh

(08:54):
well overdue. Uh. He basically took the power of our
bureaucracy to make rules that become crimes and actually penalize
people under those crimes for those crimes. And so getting

(09:15):
rid of that is going to be a huge thing
because it's going to you know, the amount of regulation
we have right now is just staggering, and there is
something like on the order of three hundred thousand federal
crimes that were written into law by bureaucrats nobody voted
on them, and that have penalties attached. And it's frightening

(09:39):
when you think about it. This is the kind of
stuff you would imagine in a dystopic novel somewhere, But
this is real life, real world stuff coming out of Washington, DC.

Speaker 2 (09:51):
You know, as a recovering public servant myself Terry and
understanding the separate and equal powers of government and our
three branches. Having been a lawmaker, I only understand statutes, laws,
whether you break them or adhere to them, that they
are on the books, that a legislature would pass, the
idea that the executive branch could could create regulations and

(10:13):
then attach criminal penalties to those, and then, by their
own admission, sometimes enforce them, mostly not maybe send a message,
just make it arbitrary even in its existence as a
so called crime. Why didn't the Supreme why would Why
would it take an executive order? Why wouldn't it take
it just a clear headed judge to see that this
has violated the separation of powers.

Speaker 4 (10:36):
You know, it doesn't make any sense, does it. I mean,
it seems to me to be a straightforward violation of
Congress's ability to to forge law on our behalf and uh,
and yet it goes on and it's it's never been halted,
it's never been stopped. I you know, recent Supreme Court

(10:59):
issues or orders have come down that have basically mitigated
the power of the bureaucracy to make rules and laws
and whatnot, but not in the sense that it got
rid of of their ultimate power for doing this. And
we now have something like sixty to one regulatory laws

(11:24):
to every statutory law. It's ridiculous and nobody can possibly
know what these what these laws are, or what the
potential penalties for violating them are. We had in our
editorial we had the example of this poor guy named

(11:44):
Mikolino Cinceri, who was a professional mountain runner. He's not
some sort of flake, and he was running on a
trail that he later found out what was supposedly closed,
and because of that he could end up serving six
months in jail just for running on a closed trail.
Some of this stuff is just is you know, absurd, Yeah.

Speaker 5 (12:08):
It is.

Speaker 1 (12:09):
Terry, Terry, great example of that, and as always Terry,
we appreciate this. This executive order has a gun into effect,
already in effect and working his way through the system.
Terry do you know, I don't.

Speaker 4 (12:20):
Think it has fully gone into effect yet, but you know,
as soon as it does, I think, you know, we're
gonna we're going to see a lot of a lot
of these things changing. First, it puts the onus on
on the bureaucracies to to change things. They have to,
you know, they have to tell people what the time is,

(12:41):
tell people what they're going to be charged with if
they do have penalties for it, and they're going to
have to be much more transparent. They can't just you know,
shock you and surprise you by suddenly arresting you for
violating some obscure you know, your bureaucratic rule.

Speaker 2 (13:01):
Well, I got to warn our listeners thanks to your article. Folks.
Until this executive order is just concrete, whatever you do,
do not sell a toy marble, you know, the little marbles.
Do not let that marble go across state lines unless
it's marked that it is a warning with a warning
that says this toy is a marble. If you don't
do that, you're gonna get thrown in the clink. My goodness, some.

Speaker 4 (13:25):
Of this stuff is crazy. But the other example we
have it is it's a crime to submit a design
to the federal duck stamp contest. If you're just sign
does not primarily feature eligible water foul.

Speaker 1 (13:41):
H You gotta love it, Darry, you gotta love it.
Terry is always great to have me on the show.
Thank you. That's Terry Jones, Editor of Issues and Insight.
So I can't carry one marble from one. You take
that marble Cross State pal, you better have this. You
better have a disclaimer says this marble is a toy.

Speaker 2 (13:57):
I mean, yeah, you know, that's all that is front
of mind for everybody you know on the Family VAK.
They're not sell that marvel to the kid at the
campground or else. You're buying in.

Speaker 1 (14:07):
Trouble, you're going to jail, all right. More coming up
the wing Man Wednesday edition of The Rod and Greg
Show on Talk Radio one O five nine kan Ars.
Donald trump big announcement came yesterday. Or He talked about
the Golden Dome to protect the United States, and in
his remarks he brought up Ronald Reagan and Ronald Reagan
and remember the Star Wars initiative and what Reagan was

(14:29):
proposing at the time. And I found the comparison between
the two Greg very very interesting. When it came to
protecting the United States of America, there yes, one hundred percent.
So the Star Wars initiative, this Golden Dome, this is
all the same discussion, and it's I love to see
it come to fruition. They're very aggressive about their timeline,

(14:49):
but it did begin the discussion, and the President did
about the comparisons with Ronald Reagan, which I love to hear,
because all I've ever heard is that I'm a Ronald
Reagan look not a Trump or all I've ever heard
even the Chinese embassy wants to say, you know, Ronald
Reagan didn't like tariffs, and they even Chinese embassy wants
to draw a line between Trump and Reagan. I love

(15:10):
the idea that these two men, because I have always
felt this way, are very similar leaders. Well, let's find
out how much joining us on our Newsmaker line any
our Newsmaker line right now is Craig. Surely he's not
their historian Chairman of Citizens for the Republic. Great guy.
We've had Craig on the show on numerous occasions. Craig,
how are you welcome back to the Rod and Greg.

Speaker 5 (15:29):
Show, Good fellows? How are you no, We're.

Speaker 1 (15:32):
Doing very very well. Your article that you put into
Fox News talking about this. What prompted you to write
this again?

Speaker 5 (15:38):
Craig uh They asked me if I would if I
would consider writing I said sure, and I thought long,
hard about it. And you know, as I said, stylistically,
there were two different men. But sure, all men are different.
But no man is just the same as any other man,

(15:58):
not even fathers and sons. Right, you know, one could
be a prison and you know there could be you know,
the president, I.

Speaker 2 (16:05):
Stated that actually stands for co hosts of radio shows.
Two very different, very different people. Just so you know,
I think you're onto something here.

Speaker 5 (16:13):
I wasn't going to cast experison, but but ideologically they're
quite similar as far as their approach to federalism, as
as far as their approach to you know, the whole
concept of conservatism is based on the individual. That comes
from John Locke, right. We believe you and you fellows

(16:34):
and I and many of your listeners believe that the
individual is superior to the state. Reagan believed that and
brought that to the Republican Party, and Donald Trump is
now acting on there. But you know, the Republican Party
has changed many positions over the years since nineteen thirty two,
the Democratic Partisan thirty two has been generally the party

(16:55):
of government. The Republican Party has gone back and forth
to party being me too government, to being being yes
on trade, no on trade, yes on trade again, being
a war party, being a peace party. They've changed their
position on task cuts. There used to be the test
raising party in order to get a balanced budget. Now

(17:16):
cannon of the Republican Party is task cuts because they
believe what Reagan believed and what Trump now has a
don is that is that power belongs to the individual,
not to the state, and the best way to do
that is to transfer power and authority from the state
back to the individual and the form of task cuts.

(17:38):
And over the years, you know, government is regulated, you
know regulation and even speech regulations. So power has been
drifting from the states and individuals to the national government
until nineteen eighty when Reagan reversed the New Deal and
started bringing back new federalism, which to send power back
to the states. That reared it's ahead again with Obama

(18:01):
and with Joe Biden. So now Trump is doing the
same that undoing that Reagan did, which is to unravel
the mess that Obama and Biden have created. Even in
the half mentally acceptable state, he was still bad, you know,

(18:22):
and send power through the form of tax cuts and
closing down the Department Energy, closing down the Department of Education,
other actions, back to the states and back to the
individuals where the founders and framers wanted it to be.

Speaker 2 (18:37):
You know, Craig, what I really liked, loved about your
article is you pointed out a couple of things that
I probably remembered but I had forgotten, and that is
ron Reagan really did run go after the establishment we
call the establishment, maybe the swamp nowadays, but he did.
He ran against Gerald Ford, he ran against George Herbert
Walker Bush. He successfully won the second time around. He
nearly beat President Gerald Ford in nineteen seventy six. But

(19:00):
I grew up in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, and I remember in
the eighties the Reagan Democrats. I remember in my I worked,
I lived in a blue collar town. They were probably
most Democrats. But people, the people I knew, my grandparents,
my my uncles, everyone loved Ronald Reagan. They thought he
was for us, He's for the working man and woman.
And I see that with this it's not a coincidence

(19:22):
that Pennsylvania and where I grew up identified a Trump
that way and supported him. He seems to be very
popular with the everyday American.

Speaker 5 (19:32):
I bet a lot of those people you knew too
were ethnic voters, weren't they correct? They were, yes, yeah, yeah,
because they had come over, you know, from Serbia and
Yugoslavia and emigrated away from communism, and they didn't want
to go back to a form of collectivism under this
in this country. So they embraced the Party of Freedom,

(19:53):
the Republican Party, because they suffered under under sto and Hitler,
under under different forms of collectivism, but there were still
oppressive governments, and that's why they that's why they cherished America,
and they cherished the individuality of America.

Speaker 1 (20:10):
Yeah, Craig, when you when you hear the comment, we're
running out of time, but I wanted to get your
thoughts on this. When you hear people say, well, Donald
Trump is not Ronald Reagan. You know, he's not Ronald Reagan.
When you hear that, what's your response to it.

Speaker 5 (20:23):
Craig, Of course, he's not Ronald Reagan, but he's but
ideologically it's very similar. Look as I said. My piece,
And as you fellows know, is that everything Reagan did,
almost other thing he did, had to be judged in
the shadow of the Cold War. That's why he was
such a free trader. Was to strengthen the economic and

(20:44):
political and spiritual ties between the countries of the of
the of the Western Hemisphere, Caribban based Initiative and NATA
because he wanted to fend off commiss incursions and because
you wanted to restate the Monroe doctor and so. But
he used tariffs too. When Jeff zan was jumping cheap

(21:05):
motorcycles yep on on America and almost almost killed Harley Davison,
Reagan imposed tariffs on the cheap motorcycles from Japan to
help save Harley Davison, you know, the cherished American company.
And there are hundreds of jobs this day. So he
was he was free trader, but his feet weren't setting
stone on them.

Speaker 1 (21:24):
Yeah, Craig is always great chatting with you. We always
appreciate your insight. Enjoy the weekend. Thanks Craig, You two fellows,
thank you. Yeah, Craig surely. Author historian talking about the
comparisons between Ronald Reagan and Donald Trump always liked those.
He's He's written about six or seven books on Reagan,
so he really does normal stuff.

Speaker 2 (21:44):
And I'm telling you, I love hearing the comparisons because
all I ever hear is that they're not the same.
I'm a Reagan Republican. Well guess what, these two are
very similar in their purpose.

Speaker 1 (21:53):
And I wonder how many Trump Democrats are out there today?

Speaker 2 (21:57):
Yeah, no, they are.

Speaker 6 (21:58):
They are.

Speaker 2 (21:58):
That's how you don't win Pennsylvania without Trump from Democrats.
Can't win Pennsylvania without them.

Speaker 1 (22:02):
All right, A lot to get to. Still to come
today here on the Rod and Greg Show. Great to
be with you. If you want to be a part
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Speaker 2 (22:19):
Yes, we should like it really, but we hear, we
kind of hear our own, you know, yeah, segments. But
if you miss a segment, you want to come back
and hear something, you know. That's what the podcast.

Speaker 1 (22:28):
We were just talking with the guys from Colorging Water.

Speaker 2 (22:31):
Yes, right, and way to out me in front of it.
It's a little awkward to tell them that, you know,
kind of well, dial I think the dial would help the.

Speaker 1 (22:39):
Truth for crying out loud. All right, here's a question.
I don't know why people do this kind of study,
but they asked a question. Should you shower in the
morning or the evening?

Speaker 2 (22:48):
In the morning, it doesn't make any sense of shower
with you. No way, you're shower in the morning.

Speaker 1 (22:52):
They say the best time is the morning. You feel
cleaner and you feel refreshed.

Speaker 2 (22:57):
Yes, would I don't even I don't even know how
that's an issue. It's a no brainer.

Speaker 1 (23:01):
Well, there are people who shower at night before they
go to bed. It relaxes them.

Speaker 2 (23:05):
Then you got a shower in the morning. Again, you
did nothing in between. You know what. This is bad
to admit, But this is why I don't like brushing
my teeth at night and in the morning. I did
nothing in between. I brushed my teeth, I went to sleep,
I woke up, I brush my teeth again.

Speaker 1 (23:16):
Well that's what I do.

Speaker 2 (23:17):
I don't. I can only brush my teeth in the morning.

Speaker 1 (23:20):
You can't do it before you go to bed at night.

Speaker 2 (23:21):
No, because I didn't do anything in between you eight
throughout the day. No, but it's the night. If I
brush my teeth at night, I go to sleep, I
wake up and I brush my teeth again, it feels,
it feels redundant.

Speaker 1 (23:31):
Have you ever heard of bad breath?

Speaker 2 (23:34):
You're bad breath?

Speaker 1 (23:35):
No, thank you. I don't want to just see.

Speaker 2 (23:38):
I just see if I'm breastmells come here.

Speaker 1 (23:40):
No, no thing. No, we aren't doing this, folks. One
of the stories, and I love this play. The NFL
apparently was considering getting rid of the tush push.

Speaker 2 (23:50):
Yeah, yes, well, because the Eagles have like one hundred
percent success rate on getting about a yard.

Speaker 1 (23:55):
Or two they perfected it. Were itating, Yeah, they were considering.
Apparently the Green Bay Packers were the ones who are
trying to ban it, but the NFL decided today not
enough votes there, so the tush push remains in place.

Speaker 5 (24:08):
So good.

Speaker 2 (24:09):
There used to be a rule where you couldn't push
another player advanced the ball through pushing them, and then
the tush push came into everything. And they do have
such a high success rate, but I've watched other teams
attempt it and they are not as successful. So it's
it lends to the skill and the ability of the team.
I say, so leave it.

Speaker 1 (24:26):
They left it. I've always you don't see it stopped
very often. Yeah, I don't see it not very often.

Speaker 2 (24:33):
I don't see it called as a play very often
with all teams. Now there's Eagles, it's an automatic. If
you're a fourth and one, it's it's you. You know
it's coming and you can't stop it. Yeah, Or that's it.
That's their lineman, that's Jalen Hurts, that's everybody who just
knows how to get you know, three feet on one
on one down.

Speaker 1 (24:51):
Well, my son, who was an offensive lineman, I asked
him one time. He says, they just know how to
get really low and just drive the ball.

Speaker 2 (24:58):
I'm telling you, And there's no I mean, yeah, anyway,
I think that it's actually a play of skill. And
so I'm glad that the NFL said now we're keeping
The NFL has made so many rules that just make
the game just more sissified. Kickoff rule last year, and
that that kickoff ru is horrible and going away, I
don't know. I pray it does it's worth us.

Speaker 1 (25:16):
Yeah, it is all right, let's come nowur number two
of The Rotting Greg Show, The Wingman Wednesday edition, coming
up to stay with us. Great to be with you.
I'm rod Arkatt.

Speaker 2 (25:31):
I'm sitizing Greg Hughes.

Speaker 1 (25:32):
I had a fun show. In the first hour, we
learned about the tush push and why my co host
hates soft water.

Speaker 2 (25:40):
You know you're putting words in my mouth. I didn't
say Culligan dial. I'll try the dial maybe.

Speaker 1 (25:44):
I don't know. You say it makes you feel slack.

Speaker 2 (25:47):
These guys come in here again. You're gonna shame me again?

Speaker 1 (25:49):
Yeah, sure it will. That's my job, is it on it?

Speaker 3 (25:54):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (25:54):
Yeah, I got called pony boy too.

Speaker 1 (25:58):
You're my pony boy.

Speaker 2 (25:59):
Listen. I don't know. I don't even know what the references.
I thought it was from The Outsiders, and I thought
pony Boy was one of the protagonists in the novel
The Outsiders. I wasn't offended, all right.

Speaker 1 (26:10):
Donald Trump? Donald Trump had a guest come to the
White House today, Okay, And what we're learning about Donald
Trump is, you know, now, a lot of what happened
today in front of the cameras, Greg, would you agree
usually happens behind closed doors?

Speaker 2 (26:24):
Yes, yes, right, yep. I will tell you just like
this is a listening right. There are so many hours
of meetings, there's so many discussions, until before you get
into that oval office, before you get in front of
every camera in the media, you've sorted out a lot.
There's a lot that's been discussed. And even if that
goes awry, everybody still gums it up, smiles, even if

(26:46):
they're boil their blood's boiling, and as as they get
out of that room, they are like, are you nuts?
And then then the fireworks go. But not with this president.

Speaker 1 (26:54):
No surprise, surprise. Donald Trump likes to do diplomacy in transparency.

Speaker 2 (26:59):
It is his door. It has to be the most
historically open transparent presidency we've certainly that we've ever lived through,
but maybe in history.

Speaker 3 (27:07):
Now.

Speaker 1 (27:08):
Some people very upset when it happened with Zelensky a
couple of months ago.

Speaker 2 (27:12):
Yeah, I wasn't one of them.

Speaker 1 (27:14):
I enjoyed it. Well, he did it today again. The
President of South Africa, his name is Cyril Ramafosa. Okay,
and there are real issues there about white genocide, that
blacks are going after white farmers, right, and rama Fosa said, no,
it's not the case. Well, when he got to that point,

(27:34):
the president decided to do a little show and tell. Okay,
so he said, could you dim the lights a little bit,
and he rolled a video of what's going on in
South Africa right now when it comes to white farmers.
Here's what he showed.

Speaker 7 (27:52):
Verio sides over a thousand of white farmers and those
cars are find up to pay love on a Sunday morning.
Each one of those white things you see is across
and there's approximately a thousand of them. They're all white farmers.

(28:14):
The family of white farmers, and those guards aren't driving
this stop there to pay respects to their family member
who's killed. And it's a terrible sight. I've never seen
anything like it.

Speaker 1 (28:28):
He's never seen anything like it. I mean, for him
to here, you have the South African President and he's here,
of course to try and improve relations between the US
and South Africa, right and the president brings us up
and he flatly denies it. And then the president pulls
out this video and say, well, let's go to the
screens and see what's going on.

Speaker 2 (28:47):
Graves, a lot of graves, a lot of people, a
lot of well, the South African President didn't quite know
what to do, right, but then he tried to respond
and explained to the President, this doesn't happen in our country.

Speaker 8 (29:02):
Even in the parliament.

Speaker 9 (29:04):
And they're a small minority party which is allowed to
exist in terms of our constitution.

Speaker 2 (29:10):
But you do allow them to take land.

Speaker 7 (29:13):
No, no, no, no, do allow them to take land.

Speaker 8 (29:16):
Nobody can take.

Speaker 10 (29:17):
Where they take the land, they kill the white farmer.
And when they kill the white farmer, nothing happens to them.

Speaker 8 (29:24):
There is nothing happens. There is criminality in our country.

Speaker 11 (29:29):
People who do get killed, unfortunately through criminal activity are
not only white.

Speaker 9 (29:36):
Majority of them are plexed.

Speaker 10 (29:39):
And we are now farmers are like the farmers are
not black. I don't say that's good or bad, but
the farmers are not black. And the people that are
being killed in large numbers, and you see all those gravesites, and.

Speaker 7 (29:52):
Those are people that loved ones going.

Speaker 10 (29:54):
I guess on the Sunday morning they tell me to
pay respect to their loved ones that were killed, their
heads chopped off, they died violently.

Speaker 1 (30:06):
Trump is pointed out and saying, look, you guys, now,
even Peter Doucy and Peter Deucy, the White House correspondent
of Fox News, has I covered the President for a
long long time during his first time and now on
his second term. He was even a bit surprised with
what happened.

Speaker 11 (30:18):
Today, And it's worth pointing out that is definitely the
most awkward of all office meetings since Zelensky was here.
It ended a little bit better because I can see
the vehicle. It is not leaving that the South African
delegation is not leaving early. They will be sticking around
for lunch. But really, when you watch that, it seems
like the Trump foreign policy doctrine is a lot like

(30:41):
the old slogan for the MTV show The Real World,
where people stop being polite and start getting real.

Speaker 8 (30:47):
And that's what we just saw from President Trump.

Speaker 1 (30:50):
Trump's policy. Stop being polite and let's get real.

Speaker 2 (30:53):
And just think about his transparency. It is the real world.
I think it's a good analogy because you are really
seeing their administration's policy priorities play out in real time,
and they're not going to just disagree with you behind
closed doors. They're going to show not only in front
of each other heads of state, in front of each
other Trump and you know, the President of South Africa,

(31:14):
but to the nation. Yeah, no, no, you're saying there's none,
none of this is happening. Here's the video. Yeah, I mean,
I just think that's I love it. I absolutely love it.

Speaker 1 (31:22):
Well, I just spoke with a friend of mine who
just got back from a hunting trip in South Africa.
He's been what three or four years in a row.
He goes down and hunts every year in South Africa.
And he says, the racism right now in that country,
you can taste it. And he says, it's really the
blacks against the whites.

Speaker 8 (31:39):
I've heard this.

Speaker 2 (31:39):
I've heard that the penchemists right away. It's not a
safe place for people that are white to be living
in South Africa.

Speaker 1 (31:47):
And I'm with you, Greg, I love the openness of
Donald Trump. Let's expose these people so the American people
can see it as well.

Speaker 2 (31:54):
And what you get with that, the reason that kind
of transparency even exists is because there's no duplicity going
on here. What they're going to say behind closed doors
are going to say out loud, and they're going to
say to the American people. They don't have different messages
for different audiences like so many do. And I'm telling
you down to state politics, I mean, you'd be amazed
how many people have a different message for a different audience.

(32:14):
It's dizzying they do not. Their message stays the same
and it doesn't matter the audience. It stays the same.
And that's why they can be that transparent because they
don't have to change the message.

Speaker 1 (32:24):
Then they don't have to. All Right, We've got a
lot more to come here on the Rod and Greg
Show on This wing Man Wednesday. If you'd like to
be a part of our discussion today eight eight eight
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several stories today, and I know we've got some audio
that we want to report from one of the authors

(32:48):
of this book out there. But there's a story out
there today that Hunter Biden Okay told Jake Tapper to
go f himself.

Speaker 2 (32:56):
Well that's the most probably the most logical part of
any of the story so far that I've heard.

Speaker 1 (33:02):
It makes sense currently, He revealed he once angrily confronted
Tapper and told him to, you know, do that for
hounding him over his brother Bo's death. I remember Joe
Biden claimed for a long time that bo Biden died
in the war in Afghanistan, I know, which it wasn't true,
and Jake Tapper hounded the Biden family trying to get

(33:24):
the right answer, and apparently Hunter got so mad that
he told him to, you know, go after himself.

Speaker 2 (33:30):
He still defended him during the Biden administration. He said,
isn't it kind of untowards to kind of go after Hunter?
You know, and when his dad it's not his dad's
fault that he's, you know, this way, and it's just
kind of I mean, he did. He tried to. He
tried to emote sympathy for the family, for the Biden family,
including Hunter Biden when he when Biden was in office.

(33:52):
And now he'll tell you know, Katy Kurri Kirk or
anyone else he thinks that that Hunter Biden's a slam ball.

Speaker 1 (33:59):
Now there's another story out there today, Greg as well.
Apparently it's in this point I may have to read
this book. I've really debated if I'm spending money out there.

Speaker 2 (34:08):
I was never even think of I might too. I may,
because it's there's some the details that keep coming out
are just even worse than what we could see with
our own eyes. But I don't I hate giving Jake
Tapper money, but I think I do want to read
some of these details.

Speaker 1 (34:22):
Like that's when they came out today. Apparently the campaign
spent a million dollars or more setting up a town
hall meeting. Okay, they set up a town hall meeting.
They recorded it, Joe Biden was there. They couldn't use
it because Biden was too incoherent during the town hall
meeting to use They were afraid if they did use it,

(34:43):
you know, it would make him look heave. The idea
was to convince the American people that Joe Biden was fine.
So they spend all this money and they look at
and say, he's not there, we cannot use this.

Speaker 2 (34:57):
They looked at that and went, this is an in
kind contribution to the Trump campaign that we can't. We
cannot contribute to the Trump campaign. That's what this is.
This whole town hall just says why we should elect Trump.
And and look how the model of that kept going
because we found out that the that that Kamala Harris
when she when she took over and was running, everything
was staged. Yeah, all the all the endorsements weren't real endorsements,

(35:19):
they were paid people. They built stages for the podcast
because she didn't want to travel, so the popular podcast
they tried to get on, they rebuilt their their studio.
Everything was contrived. Everything was staged. Even the I know
this from in Pittsburgh. When they would go to a restaurant,
they cleaned out the restaurant. They kicked everybody out because
I had friends cousin. Matt's friends got kicked out. One

(35:41):
of his friend's wives worked there. They didn't even tip
when they brought in there. When they brought in their
cast of characters to pretend to be patrons and have
her come come rolling in. Uh, they all ate and
didn't even tip. Uh didn't tip well or didn't tip
at all. The staff worked at the restaurant.

Speaker 1 (35:57):
Another revelation, and you've got some audio in this, is
that the one of the co author of this book,
original sin Alec Thompson, who works for Axios, shared with
him that they even the White House was a bit
surprised that the media went along with everything they were
telling him about Biden's condition.

Speaker 2 (36:13):
This has to be one of the greatest moments because
this is the Democrats and the Biden administration openly saying
how stupid and easily manipulated the journalists were that the
media was. I mean, this is this is really uh,
you know, they're they're turning on each other. Rod, Let's
have a listen.

Speaker 3 (36:32):
When you were reporting this, did people in his inner circle,
to those that you talked to acknowledge that the media
were they surprised by how complicit the media was.

Speaker 8 (36:41):
It was interesting.

Speaker 12 (36:42):
I had one conversation with someone, this was after the
election while.

Speaker 8 (36:45):
We were reporting this book, and.

Speaker 12 (36:49):
This person said, listen, yes, we.

Speaker 8 (36:52):
Deserve blame for X y Z. We were hiding him.

Speaker 12 (36:55):
We were, But this person also started on my face
and they said, listen, the media deserves some blame too.

Speaker 8 (37:01):
Like we were.

Speaker 12 (37:03):
Sort of amazed at some of the stuff we were
able to spin.

Speaker 8 (37:07):
Went on in some way, like the bank Robert complaining safe. Yeah,
they're just like you guys. You guys should not have
believed us so easily.

Speaker 12 (37:15):
And I thought that was like a really interesting but
I also think that's true.

Speaker 8 (37:18):
I think I think the media.

Speaker 12 (37:21):
In a lot of ways just was not skeptical enough
and did not remember the lesson that they do it
to different degrees, but every White House lies.

Speaker 2 (37:31):
Wow and look, and I will tell you for all this,
you know, self flogging. They're all going through the media
and saying that they didn't know understand this. And we
can see it two ways. First off, the next Republican
nominee for president, whoever that may be, whether it's a
Rubio of van said DeSantis, whoever it is, this very

(37:52):
same media if any reporting of a Democrat candidate for
president would have the effect of diminishing that Democrat candidate
look in the eyes of a potential voter, and it
would potentially enhance the prospects of the Republican nominee, the
media will not cover it. They will continue exactly as
they have up until now. They will never ever report

(38:15):
a candidate in a negative light that's Democrat, leftist if
they think it has the chance of improving the prospects
of the Republican presidential nominee. So all this talk right here,
they're going to do the same exact thing when they
go when the next election comes. The second thing is,
if you hear I heard Don Lemon say yesterday, I
just heard it again on one of the Democrats here

(38:37):
on this said on this panel on Fox News. When
you hear a Democrats say it's time to move on,
and the views said this too, that's a talking point.
That's not real because there's too much detail to this.
There's too much that was concealed and too many lies
told to the American people that no serious person would say, well,
we just move on. We're just going to move on.

(38:58):
The reason they're saying to move on is that the
memo says to tell everybody to move on, because it's indefensible.
They don't have Chuck Schumer has to say I'm moving on.
He can't answer it because he's caught lying to the
people lying and he doesn't want to say it. So
they need to say move on because they have no
straight faced answer. That's not a very bad answer.

Speaker 1 (39:19):
How do they move on when the only thing they
have right down is to attack Donald Trump? Yeah, you know,
you move on to more attacks against Donald Trump? Doesn't
my whole lot of sense. You're already doing it. Your
credibility is different. No one believes it anymore one has.
He has a higher approval rating now than he had before.
I'll tell you this too. They this party, the Democrats
are taking longer to figure out why they lost an

(39:41):
election than we've ever seen. They still want to fight
with each other. They still don't know who they are
where they're going, which I don't mind, but but they
want to move on.

Speaker 2 (39:51):
Move on where exactly? What where would you like to
move on? Bernie Sanders just admitted that his party hasn't
had an open primary for presidents since two thousand and eight.
That they also are a part because he says the
Republicans are an enemy to democracy. He admitted to a
podcast Guy Shoals that they the Democrats are an enemy
to democracy too. They have not had an open primary
since eight.

Speaker 1 (40:11):
All right, more of this and more talk about the
Biden story coming up right here on the Rotten Gregg
Show in Utah's Talk radio one oh five nine k NRS.
During Woodworo Wilson's time when he was President of the
United States late nineteen you know, nineteen, you know, nineteen
nineteen eighteen twenty, suffered some sort of stroke and his

(40:31):
wife and chief of staff basically ran the country for
two years, but Americans were not aware of it. We
are aware of what's going on now.

Speaker 2 (40:38):
And I would argue that you know, whether it was
entering the United Nations or what they call it wasn't
United Nations back then, there was nations, nations not joining
whatever it is that they were doing. Nothing that they
did the wife and whoever chiefest that would have amounts
to the amount of destruction that that's happened to this
country under faceless people that were in charge that we

(41:00):
don't know who they are. And and we talked about
this during his presidency that the scary part about him
not being being having this cognitive decline and not being
there that that you know, if it's your name, you're
going to be worried about the decisions you make because
it's your legacy. When faceless people get to take risks

(41:21):
and be cavalier and without any consequence, it gets really
dangerous out there. And sure enough that with this book
and with what we're hearing, it's a it's probably worse
than I actually thought.

Speaker 1 (41:32):
I don't know, and I'd be surprised because historians tend
to be very liberal. But I don't know. Greg In
the end, how Joe Biden could not be named the
worst president in the history of the United States. Yes,
I have liberal historians won't put him there, but he
should go there.

Speaker 2 (41:50):
I think eventually he will too. I think, just just
as historians have been kinder to Richard Nixon overtime to
really put you know, him leavan Watergate into a broader
perspective where it wasn't the sky falling, I think that
this will be put into a much more stark perspective
where it was pretty scary.

Speaker 10 (42:09):
This is.

Speaker 1 (42:10):
But you are you confident historians will rank them at
the bottom, because I think that's where.

Speaker 2 (42:14):
He should be able to tell you because of guys
like Jake Tapper, who I think they miscalculated. I think
they wanted to come clean or just kind of preserve
their their reputation. I think it's going to take on
a life of its own with that book and with
the people that now are running for cover trying to say,
you know, just like the Democrats said, well, the media
there to blame because they shouldn't have believed us. We
couldn't believe they're buying what we were selling. You're getting.

(42:34):
I think it's getting worse out there. And then to
the point you made, if you go over some of
the decisions that were being made that Trump put this
on a true social post post. He said, look at
President Biden's record when he was in the Senate. He
was never an open borders guy. So many of the
things that his administration did don't align with his public
service up to that point, which then begs a question, Well,

(42:56):
then who was making those decisions. That's where you get
into these crazy things of surrendering the border, the vaccine passports,
all the executive boarders. I mean, you have a laundry y.

Speaker 1 (43:06):
Yeah, Well, I want to do two things Greg. First
of all, we played that audio sound Like Before the
Break with Alex Thompson, one of the co authors of
this book, where he said the White House was even
surprised the media went along with what they were telling him.

Speaker 2 (43:19):
Isn't that something?

Speaker 1 (43:20):
Yeah, So you know, they'd ask a question, well, is
Joe Biden Okay, yeah, he's just fine, So what would
the media report? Well, despite reports that he's not doing well,
Joe Biden is doing very, very well. That's how they reported.
The reason for that, in my opinion, was they did
not want Donald Trump back in the White House. No,
and no matter how bad Joe Biden was, they simply

(43:42):
could not fathom the idea of another four years of
Donald Trump.

Speaker 2 (43:45):
And I hate to say it. It's going to be
the same way the next presidential election we have. They're
not going to want the next Republican in there. You'll
find the narrative doesn't change a whole lot. It's gonna
sound just like it does with Trump. We think it's
Trump that brings all this out in people. It's going
to be Publicans. Remember remember what they used to say
about Romney, How you know, how mae misogynistic he was,

(44:06):
and how he had the binder of women, you know,
and and then.

Speaker 1 (44:09):
Even even the putting his dog on the roof and yeah,
and then.

Speaker 2 (44:12):
You go back and go back to John McCain who
used to be the straight talk express and the maverick
and every really loved him. And then when he ran
against Barack Obama, he was a terrible person too, and
they had nothing but vitriol for him. It's going to
be the same for the next Republican candidate. And that's
where this media just has zero credibility. They will not
call balls and strikes in the next election. I don't

(44:33):
care what they're saying about Biden. Now.

Speaker 1 (44:35):
Well, Van Jones, used to work for Obama, openly has
come out and said he absolutely loves Joe Biden, but
he even is admitting now it's going to take a
long time for the Democrats to recover from what's going on. Yeah, well, well,
I have to see the public has a very short memory,
in my opinion, and things could turn around, you know, maybe.

Speaker 2 (44:54):
Letting them forget. I'm not letting them forget about the
Afghanistan withdraw and leaving Taliban fifty billion dollars of weapons.
I'm not going to I'm not gonna let people forget
that that the government US government wanted to make domestic
terrorists out of devout Catholics and veterans and people that
are parents and parents that they literally did that.

Speaker 1 (45:11):
All right, more coming up, it is the Rod and
Greg Show right here on Utah's Talk Radio one O
five nine. K n R asked, if you want to
be a part of the discussion today eight eight eight
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say hey, Rod. The country itself really suffered the consequences
of disasters, right, and I think exacerbated by whoever was

(45:36):
in charge. Obviously Joe Biden was in charge or partially
he may have been there.

Speaker 2 (45:42):
We don't know, right well, we've never it's it's actually
grown in terms of we should demand to know. Yeah,
who was making these decisions?

Speaker 1 (45:51):
I want and I don't know if it does it
in this book, but I want the people who were
the inner circle, who knew you all Biden was not functioning,
and who decided to make decisions for this country. I
want them identified. I want them out at Let me
who these people are.

Speaker 3 (46:08):
Now.

Speaker 1 (46:09):
I don't know if they're in the book or if
you just kind of have to put this and this
and this and this together to figure it out, but
I want them identified.

Speaker 2 (46:16):
So here, this is this is food for thought to
that point. Okay, it was pretty evident that Alejandro Majorcis
was not was not fulfilling his constitutional duty of protecting
our borders. True, he was borned to do that and
as a cabinet member, and he was supposed to do this,
and this is why he was impeached in the House
the Senate, and the first time in American history, unless

(46:39):
the person they were impeaching had passed away before the
Senate hearing on the impeachment could take place, they just
decided to say, nah, we're not going to do it
with what we know now that that that impeachment was
not only was it appropriate, it might not have measured.
It might not have been the measure of the moment
in terms of how bad things were going on and
how bad America was at risk. That impeachment might have

(47:02):
been an understatement. How bad did the Democrats look that
they never that they broke president precedent, didn't have the
hearing for the impeachment. Where I to your question, is
Alejandro Maorcis responsible for abandoning the border the way they did?

Speaker 1 (47:17):
Good question? Good question, Well, Jordan Boyd at the Federalist putty,
is she kind of recamped today everything that Biden's unelected
handlers did to destroy the country here, Just think about
this list radical executive orders. The moment he became president.
All of a sudden, there was this florry of radical
executive orders, right the COVID nineteen vaccine passports. Look what

(47:40):
they did to the country during COVID nineteen. As you
just mentioned, greg surrendering the border, Alejandro Mayorcis got away
with whatever you wanted to do. Censored Americans. How many
Americans were told you dare not say anything.

Speaker 2 (47:54):
Or their social media accounts got just disappeared. Yeah, if
they had any kind of traction, if they got they
were just turned off. If they had any opinion about
what was going on with the vaccine, with the with
the pandemic, you name it. By the way, some of
those those executive words that you talked about, he went
straight for the gender issues, threatening funding, federal funding. If
they if they actually tried to enforce gender by chromosomes

(48:18):
they talked about. They canceled that cake Keystone pipeline, just
eliminating overnight thousands and.

Speaker 1 (48:23):
Thousands of jobs.

Speaker 2 (48:25):
I hate to go back, but I'm just telling you
those radical executive orders they were. They were just radical
in philosophy. They harmed people.

Speaker 1 (48:31):
They were in office only eight months, and what happens Afghanistan, yep.
Talk about an embarrassment.

Speaker 2 (48:38):
And that was they wanted to be out by September
eleventh so they could say in twenty years were out
and they and to do that they had the cost.

Speaker 1 (48:47):
Was unbelievable, bidnomics and inflation. We're still trying to deal
with that inflation. I remember that the threats against the
Supreme Court. Thank you, Chuck, Schumer ignored the disasters in Ohio, Hawaii,
and North Carolina did nothing about that.

Speaker 2 (49:04):
Nor Ohio with the Palestine with the chemical spill. Yeah,
and they didn't even bother to show up. No, when
their waters contaminated every they were pulling they were pulling
in Pittsburgh, uh, water and things off of shells that
had been in that area that could have been contaminated
so bad. You didn't even see a federal, serious federal
response there. Hawaii gets burned to the ground. North Carolina

(49:25):
they're judging FEMA applications if they have Trump signs in
their yards.

Speaker 5 (49:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (49:29):
I mean, those are the disasters that they treated that way. Unreal.

Speaker 1 (49:33):
And look at those poor people still in North Carolina
who are still asking for help. They're saying, we need
things done. And you know what I just got back
from Hawaiian. I'm told Maui in that area still hasn't recovered.

Speaker 4 (49:44):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (49:45):
You know it's Democrat controlled controlled.

Speaker 6 (49:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (49:48):
Not hold your breath, all right. When we come back
our number three of the Rout and Greg show on
this Wing Men Wednesday, Utah sentator Mike Lee is going
to join us, and we want to find out why
we aren't getting deeper cuts in this big deal bill. Yes,
the Republicans there, we need the answers. Yep, mich will
join us. Coming up next on the Rotten Great Show,
stay with us.

Speaker 2 (50:14):
We need Maverick, Pete, Maverick, Mitchell and Goose go up
to that capital. Get these get these members of Congress's
Republicans to act like Republicans and create a budget cutting
bill that Doge has done. All the work. They've done,
all the work.

Speaker 1 (50:28):
I came across top Gun, Maverick the other night.

Speaker 2 (50:30):
Did you watch it?

Speaker 1 (50:31):
I stopped and watched the rest of it to watch
it and catch the full thing. But yeah, it's still
a good movie. It's fun movie.

Speaker 2 (50:37):
When when during that fire or fight at the end,
I get book clumped. I do. I just I just
think of the young men and women that do that
in real life, and I just and that's so it's
such a crazy dog fight. I just it makes me emotional,
it does. It makes me emotional. I see it as
a father now. I don't see it as a kid
like well I want to do that. I see it
as a dad thinking those young people doing it. It's
just it may it because you know that stuff really

(50:59):
goes on. You know when I saw Iceman, Yeah, I
kind of gott Yeah, that was so that movie. It's
it's an emotional movie. It's it's one of the greatest
movies of all time ever, certainly one of the best sequels.

Speaker 1 (51:11):
I know it charges Yeah, it's pretty Is the sequel
better than the original?

Speaker 2 (51:14):
It can't be. But it's as close.

Speaker 1 (51:16):
It's close.

Speaker 2 (51:17):
But I'll tell you, nobody thought that the top guns,
especially how many years have passed that you could even
get remotely close and they did.

Speaker 1 (51:24):
Isn't a third one coming out?

Speaker 2 (51:27):
I hope not. I don't know that you lightning can
strike again. I think that I'll just leave it too.
But it's like Gladiator, didn't it wasn't it was okay,
It just wasn't like the first one.

Speaker 1 (51:37):
First one was first One's right, all right? You were
just mentioning the big beautiful bill the Republicans are trying
to do. Mike Johnson, Speaker of the House, said they
may have a vote on it tonight, but it is
certainly not what I think a lot of us were
hoping for.

Speaker 2 (51:52):
Well not yet. I'm holding out. I just if you
have a cut and you tell tell me that it's
going to take effect in twenty twenty nine. My immediate
question having been I know it's a smaller pool and
a state legislative body, but once you make the vote
to cut the budget, it doesn't actually matter whether it's

(52:13):
now we're in twenty twenty nine, other than for the
negative because the Democrats are going to rip you for
voting for it, and they're going to vote against it
no matter if it's started in twenty six or if
it started in twenty nine. You get the same backlash.
So what's the upside in punting any of these cuts?
And the cuts it's not a percentage. Usually the vagueness
of it is what makes you politically vulnerable. Doge has

(52:35):
given you the receipts, They've given you the line by
line path, the most egregious waste and fraud out there
that you can point to, and I don't understand why
this is even hard.

Speaker 1 (52:44):
Well joining us on our newsmaker line to talk about that,
as Utah sender Mike Lee sender Lee, thanks for joining
us tonight, Ari sender Lee. We've talked about the bill.
You've heard Greg and I kind of talk about it
as well. Are there meaningful cuts in this bill, let's
say you.

Speaker 3 (52:59):
Yeah, short answer your questions. As of right now, we
are fairly skimming the surface. And that's why I've been
working with my colleagues in the Senate or counterparts of
the House, with White House staffing, with President Trump to
identify other ways in which we can you know, fulfill
the mission of DOGE and continue this reform. We got

(53:21):
to remember spending. Federal spending just since the onset of
COVID has increased, according to some estimate, by fifty three percent.
Others put it closer to fifty eight percent. And this
bill is estimated to reduce federal spending by something like
one point three percent at the low end, one point

(53:44):
eight percent at the high end. That's that's not going
to cut it. Meanwhile, we get this thirty seven trillion
dollar a day. You don't get out of that, but
I can continuing to add to it at a rate
of about two trillion dollars a year. The bill and
it's most recent public form, would accumulate a total of

(54:04):
by some estimates backed up by CBO Congressional Budget Office,
it would add another twenty six trillion or so to
the national debt just over the next ten years alone.
So that's not good enough what we can get it there.
So the big beautiful bill is big, but it's not
beautiful yet. We're going to get there, and there's still.

Speaker 5 (54:25):
Time to fix it.

Speaker 2 (54:26):
You know, Senator, I struggle with this because I understand
having been in a much smaller pool a legislation involved
in the legislature, and and I've always operated under don't
let perfect be the enemy of good. But the word
good has to apply. It has to be at least good,
and has.

Speaker 5 (54:44):
To be at least good.

Speaker 3 (54:44):
And you also can't succumb to the the corollary, I mean,
you can't go with the corollary to Beth, which is
you can't let the easy be the enemy of the good.
You can't let what's easy and right in front of
you be mistaken for something that actually accomplishes good. My
family hates it when I use this grace. But there's

(55:05):
a term that appears in the Bible, but the dog
returning to which vomit. It does that not because it's
good for the dog or appealing, but because it's there.
Just because it's there, it doesn't mean it's good.

Speaker 2 (55:18):
So with that said, and you said it exactly right.
Here's my worry. And we you oftentimes in budgets we're
talking percentages, and so they get vague and they leave
us open to the Democrats, the leftist criticizing what that
percentage actually represents in real life. What you have with
the effort with DOGE are receipts, you have actual fraud,

(55:38):
you have spending. And sometimes people say, well, some of
those are so small it doesn't really matter on the deficit.
But my fear is this, senator, if you can't cut today,
not in twenty twenty nine, but today, the one hundred
million dollars that's being spent on unused phone lines that
DOGE is discovered. I saw one of their posts today.
If you can't identify the foreign aid that DOAGE has

(56:00):
identified as absolute waste, and I see a hand a
lot of Republican senators that don't want to cut that
foreign aid and have that reflected in the budget. I
don't think you ever get too serious. In other words,
if these this isn't low hanging fruit to me, this
is on the ground to pick up. If this is
not in the bill and it's not cut now twenty

(56:20):
twenty nine, the rest doesn't mean anything to me, because
you'll never have a more bulletproof way to cut the
budget than some of the things that Doge has found.
Please tell me that the work the Doge has done
will be reflected in this budget bill.

Speaker 3 (56:34):
Doing everything to make sure that it is right now
it's not. We need to get there. And Greg, it's
even worse than what you described. I agree with everything
you said, but just to emphasize the importance of what
you're saying, it's even worse than that. In other words,
there are a number of us who have been sounding
the warning cry for years about total spending, about the

(56:54):
waste rodden, abuse, about you know, what's happening to all
the foeur and eight where it goes, lack of accountability
and transparent attached to it. We've been warning about it,
voting against these big, bloated bills that nobody has a
chance to see that we don't have adequate opportunity when
it comes to oversight and lo and behold, not only
is an enormous some of it going to waste, fraud,

(57:14):
and abuse, but in many cases it's worse than that,
because in many cases it's being weaponized against the American people,
against the very taxpayers from whom this money is being
extracted and whose paychecks are being diluted by the inflationary
effect of two trillion dollar annual deficits. You look at

(57:38):
the fact that so much of this USAID money, for example,
was going into funding Soros backed radical leftist NGOs that
were then using that and weaponizing it against the American people.
That's tragic. This is what happens when government governments get
too big and too expensive and unaccountable.

Speaker 1 (58:01):
Sender, you mentioned just a moment ago that we aren't
there yet, but you're going to get there. How are
we going to get there? What is it going to take,
in your opinion, to get it to the point that
you'll be satisfied and others who are out there who
are raising questions about this will be satisfied. How do
you get there?

Speaker 3 (58:15):
All right, let me sum it up this way. We
have to remember that not everything the big Beautiful Bill
is run true on a procedure known as budget reconciliation.
The advantage of budget reconciliation is that it's able to
pass the Senate with a simple majority of only fifty
one votes to downside to reconciliation. They're not a downside

(58:40):
as so much as a limitation. You can't necessarily achieve
balance or even create the likely pathway to balance exclusively
on budget reconciliation because it doesn't touch all areas of spending.
In order to qualify for inclusion and budget reconciliation, it
has to be budgetary and its impact, which means that
it brings about changes to mandatory spending as opposed to

(59:04):
discretionary spending, mandatory spending or revenues, and has to do
so in a way that doesn't result in the budgetary
impact being merely incidental to broader policy changes. All of
this is to say there is a lot that we
can do here. We're not going to get the ballot
in year one, but the goal is to get the

(59:25):
balance in year two or three before the end of
this presidency. Certainly, in order to do that, we've got
to make meaningful progress here and then have a commitment
from the White House and from the two legislative chambers
about what we're going to do on subsequent appropriations bills
which deal with what we call the discretionary side of
the budget, and other non reconciliation eligible reforms. So some

(59:51):
of that is math and science. Some of this is
more arts than math and science. But together we can
get there. We've got a common commitment, you.

Speaker 1 (01:00:04):
Tell sunder Mike Lee joining us on our newsmaker line
talking about that big beautiful butt, Bill and Greg. I
don't know. To me, it sounded like sender Lee at
the end there was saying, well, let's get this passed
down and then we'll work on more later that well,
we're missing an opportunity here, and.

Speaker 2 (01:00:20):
Well, I see zero downside to getting that. Especially this
is why you're losing Elon Musk. Okay, you're gonna lose.
You're losing him. He's announced he's gonna shut it down.
Why he can't work this hard, take this much punishment,
give you the receipts, give you all that you need
to start making these cuts, and on the smallest ones
you don't have the political will to do it. He's
not putting himself through that so that you can run

(01:00:42):
away from the cuts that are the easiest to make out.

Speaker 1 (01:00:46):
Reminds us a little bit of Fredo, and we'll talk
about that coming up. Fredo Krats on the Rodd and
Greg Show and Talk Radio one O five nine k
n RS. But during the break walking watching John Steward
from Comedy Central just rip Jake Tapper about this new
book Original Sin.

Speaker 2 (01:01:03):
It's hilarious.

Speaker 8 (01:01:05):
I didn't.

Speaker 2 (01:01:05):
I don't watch CNN, so I don't know that. Every
word Jake Tappers, every sentence he begins, is with I
have a book coming out.

Speaker 1 (01:01:11):
I have a book coming down from two months, one.

Speaker 2 (01:01:13):
Month, three weeks, two weeks. And then John Stewart says,
and then they show the other other cast of characters
on CNN that are promoting his book too, and then
like do they all work on commission? Like what's going
on here?

Speaker 1 (01:01:26):
Well? I love I love the one where he has
Tapper saying breaking news. Oh, you'll find out what the
news is in this new book that is coming out,
and Steward goes, uh, breaking news. Doesn't that mean you
tell us right away and not tease us.

Speaker 2 (01:01:39):
If you call, it's like breaking news if you call
now and mention tap that, He says, yeah, it's it's
it's he's he's funny and he's mocking him, and he's
mocking him justifiably too.

Speaker 1 (01:01:53):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Now you want to talk about
the the the wonderful Republican lawmakers who are afraid to
do what the American people are asking them to do,
and that's to cut the size of government.

Speaker 2 (01:02:03):
You know, I did an I did a post on
X last night. I saw a list of eighteen Republican senators,
some of them which I respect and I've always admired
kind of their you know, what they've said publicly, how
they built like this Mark Wayne Mullen, he's a you know,
from Oklahoma. He owns a plumbing company, and he's just

(01:02:24):
he seems like a regular guy. He seems like the
guy that I could depend on to find this foreign
aid that's been you know, sent out their usaid all
this and would cut it in a budget. And he's
numbered among about eighteen Republicans who aren't going to do this,
and it with it all laying right out there for
them to do. And so in my post, I'm like,
this isn't this is if you can't do this is

(01:02:45):
the test if you don't have it, if you don't
have the ability to cut this budget with with doege
doing the extraordinary job that you never really get in
politics of finding specificity in those cuts of fraud, then
you're not going to cut anything. And it's just it's
we're in a moment and these guys are these Republicans
are failing. Well, you know, we've had Kurt Schlichter on
this show before, and he has he has created a

(01:03:07):
term for these types of Republicans that I personally love.
He calls them the GOP sissy Fredocons. Now it's a
play on neocons, you know, those neocons that love to
get into wars and everything. Fredocons are Fredo. If you're
Fredo is the brother, the middle brother of the Corleone

(01:03:28):
family of brothers, and who happens to be, as described,
the weak willed, indecisive, lack of strength to thrive in
the world that the Corleons operated. He's also so he
wants respect, but he doesn't do anything to receive it.
I mean, he's got a he's a pretty sad sap
in the movie Godfather and Godfather too. So Fredo, if

(01:03:51):
you're called Fredo, it's not a compliment. So I think
that the term for these Republicans that just can't get
it right and identify these cuts. Doge is just giving them,
you know, the receipts for They are the GOP cissy Fredocns.
And if and again, let me just this is, this
is Fredo. If you don't if if my description wasn't

(01:04:12):
adequate enough, maybe this can help.

Speaker 8 (01:04:15):
I did handle things.

Speaker 9 (01:04:16):
I'm smart like everybody says like dumb, I'm smart, and
I want to spect I did handle things.

Speaker 8 (01:04:24):
I'm smart. I'm smart.

Speaker 9 (01:04:27):
I'm smart like everybody says like dumb.

Speaker 8 (01:04:32):
I'm smart.

Speaker 2 (01:04:33):
There you go, there's Fredo. Okay, and these are sissy
Republican Fredocons, every single one of them. If they if
I don't see, if I don't see those cuts, they're
all Fredocons.

Speaker 1 (01:04:43):
To me, every member of the Senate could could repeat
what Fredo just said. I'm smart. I want respect. You
know how you're gonna get it. Do the leadership, do
the brave thing, have some courage, and do what the
American people are asking.

Speaker 2 (01:04:56):
Just what we discussed with Senator Mike Lee. It's not
don't it's not easy, and he didn't sign up for
an easy job. And the Democrats aren't going to take
it easy on you. I mean again, it breaks my
heart that Elon Musk has sacrificed quite a bit to
try and help this country and he's looking around going, boy,
if you guys can't act on this or I don't
know what I'm doing.

Speaker 1 (01:05:14):
Yeah, I'm done with it. All right, more coming up
on the Rod and Greg Show. It is the Rod
and Greg Show Wingman Wednesday edition right here on Talk
Radio one O five to nine k n RS. I'm
Rod Arquette, I'm Susan Greg Hughes. All right, I'm getting
sick and tired of hearing this. Greg. Here's another article today.
Where was this? This was in Breitbart. Promises made promises,
kept Memorial Day set for lowest gas prices in over

(01:05:36):
twenty years. And I'm looking at the price I paid
for gas two days ago, and I went, Okay, where
are the lower gas prices in Utah?

Speaker 2 (01:05:47):
You know where they're at? Where they're all in rural Utah? Right,
I am telling you. And this is why I wish
my friends in the legislature would take a closer look
at this. If you I'm looking, Fillmore has had gas
regular unleaded at two ninety five. Really, yes, wow, you
had three oh five in the most in the rural
areas of this day. As soon as you got to

(01:06:08):
the populated, so you got the iron stuck to it
went back up, so you got the Washington County, it
went right back up so Inasach front, and in the
populated Washington County you're at an average of I think
three still at three twenty maybe three nineteen or three
twenty four for regular unleaded it's two ninety five and
three oh five in the rural, remote place. And it's
not supposed to work like that because they don't have

(01:06:29):
the volume.

Speaker 1 (01:06:30):
No, they don't.

Speaker 2 (01:06:31):
In the rural areas, they're supposed to get a little
bit more of a margin. The places with the high
volume are supposed to be lower. We're getting the opposite
here in Utah.

Speaker 1 (01:06:38):
We sure are. Well, lett remember uh greg what six
seven years ago, that very annoying Swedish teenager? Her name is, Yeah,
I think Greta Thunberger Thuneberger?

Speaker 12 (01:06:52):
How are you?

Speaker 2 (01:06:53):
How dare you?

Speaker 1 (01:06:54):
How dare you do this to us? Well? Things are
starting to change because the world is moving away from
the green gospel of scarcity. Isn't that pleasant?

Speaker 2 (01:07:06):
I know?

Speaker 8 (01:07:06):
I love it.

Speaker 2 (01:07:07):
I am looking forward to this interview.

Speaker 1 (01:07:09):
Yeah. Well, joining us on our Newsmaker line to talk
about that he wrote about it today is Kevin Keiloh.
He's an energy reporter at just the news, Kevin, thanks
for joining us. All right, what has changed in the
six years since that annoying teenager made us all mad?

Speaker 8 (01:07:24):
Well?

Speaker 6 (01:07:24):
I think you know when net zero kind of came
on the scene and there was this whole kind of
fervor about it, about the idea of climate change being
this grand threat and that we could easily replace fossil fuels.
There was this kind of notion that wind and sellar
would accomplish that and that it would be driving down

(01:07:45):
energy cost. And as much as people will show support
for addressing climate change, like you can have a pole
thing do you think the government should do more for
climate change? You'll get an overwhelming positive response, But it's
kind of like asking do you think the government should
do more to help puppies.

Speaker 5 (01:08:05):
You know you're going to.

Speaker 6 (01:08:06):
Get a spont for that, But then you ask people,
you know, well, how do you rate it in comparison
to other things like Gallup polls, rates of voters' priorities
and at the economy and immigration are always at the top,
and climate change is way down to the bottom. Same thing.
If you ask people, you know, what do you think

(01:08:27):
how much would you spend to address climate change? You
asked a dollar, support drops, you get to one hundred
dollars a month, support just falls off the map. So
what had happened is over this past six years is
you have energy rates are going up. They're not going down,
despite promises Whenen Sullow would bring those down country that

(01:08:49):
are much further along than the US was, you know,
like Spain and Portugal and Germany, they're seeing nothing but
problems and much higher rates. And you know what it
came down to is people supported climate change until they
realized it was going to really addressing it. Trying to
reach Zarow by twenty fifty was going to be very
costly and it was not gonna you know, it's going

(01:09:11):
to result in unaffordable, unreliable energy. So the conversation is
kind of you know, it cracked that ice, and you
know they're starting to take a look at the very
real possibility that these plans were not well thought out.

Speaker 2 (01:09:26):
So this maybe I boil it down too simply, but
I'd like your thoughts. Uh, there's luxury issues, and there's
then there's kitchen table issues. And I think when the
elite thought we have enough power and we don't really
care if it's scarce otherwise, and it's actually a form
of control when the luxury issue. For those that are
in control, they realize they're in an artificial intelligence race,

(01:09:47):
which China, they realized data centers are part of the future.
When they realized that it was that this climate conversation
was no longer a luxury issue but their kitchen table
issue on how they're going to proceed, it seemed like
a convert happened overnight. You got Bill Gates wants to
go nuclear. Everybody loves nuclear now they didn't like it before.
Am I Is that too simplified or is it just
that the reality has hit these these people that like

(01:10:10):
to pat themselves on the back over a luxury issue
of energy or sustainable energy, but now that it's real
life for them like it is for everyday Americans. Oh,
now we have an abundance.

Speaker 6 (01:10:21):
Oh there's a lot of the truth to that, you know.
I mean a lot of these companies are on board
with ESG and it's the sustainability initiatives. And then they
started realizing that it was hurting their investments, and yeah,
that changed their tune real quick.

Speaker 3 (01:10:37):
Uh.

Speaker 6 (01:10:37):
They you know, these big tech companies from Microsoft and
on up, they were really on board with this. So
we're going to power our data centers with wind and
solars and then you know, with AI, those energy demands
got much much larger. And you know they're sitting there
in these meetings and saying, how are we going to
power our new data center? You know, yeah, you could

(01:10:59):
do it with when and solar. It's just going to
cost you billions and billions of dollars. You're going to need,
you know, thousands of acres of land and you're still
going to have a lot of risks for blackout or
you can use a guess for mind. So you know
that that began to change the tune real quick. When
you know, when when it was their investments, when it's
their money, it was no longer like you say, a luxury,

(01:11:20):
It was you know, hitting them. The reality was coming
to bear.

Speaker 1 (01:11:25):
Energy abundance is very important, as you point out, but
is the real challenge as well, Kevin, in a way
that we have to have reliable energy sources and do
we have them or are we working in that direction?

Speaker 6 (01:11:39):
We well, we do have them, I mean you know when,
so WHEN and solar. Of course they're intermittent, and you
know the problem is is that to make them constant,
to make them reliable energy, you have to spend a
lot of money on a lot of different projects to
make that work. So we do have weill, we do
have gas, we have we have new killer, and we

(01:12:01):
have hydroelectric and all of those are reliable. And you know,
it is important that an energy source be reliable. You
can have all the energy in the world, but it's
shut off randomly, What good is it. It's kind of
like a car that you know, it's a missions free
and it's super cheap, but what if it only gets
you halfway to the destination?

Speaker 2 (01:12:21):
You know, I had to laugh. In your article, you
point out that everybody wanted to be zero emissions by
twenty fifty, and now the same organizations are saying, boy,
this oil and gas thing, this is a good gig.
We got to have more of this. We need more
of everything. A term I'm hearing a lot now that
I didn't hear even a year two years ago. SMRs
they're the small modular reactors. They're the small nuclear reactors

(01:12:45):
that really generate a lot of power, very clean that
a lot of tech companies, I'm told, are looking to
identify their own source of power. Because while you use
all the all the types of sources for power, oil, gas,
clean coal, you name it, wind, solar, these these sm
SMRs are seemingly all the rage. Are you seeing that

(01:13:06):
at all in terms of it being a source for
a sustainable energy.

Speaker 6 (01:13:11):
I'm seeing a lot more support for its development. The
thing about articular is that it's development was very much strangled,
h you know, by the same movement that you know
wants us to address climate change now and so. But
they also realized, well, you know, it's really the only
potential source for carbon free, reliable energy because wind and

(01:13:34):
solar isn't working out. So so there's a lot more
openness to kind of looking at it and seeing what
its possibilities are. You know, it's not fully developed, we
don't know exactly what its potential is, but it's definitely there.
And the thing about small modular reactors is not only
can they generate electricity, but they can also provide direct heat.

(01:13:55):
So what you can do is, like say a steel plant,
potentially you could use the heat from a small modular
reactor to provide the heat you need for producing steel
for example. You know, and there's a lot of a
lot of energy loss when you create energy from steam
to create electricity and then use the electricity to create heat.

Speaker 5 (01:14:17):
So if you're providing direct heat, you got a much
more direct route there and a potential efficiency. So there's
a lot of potential there. If the government would get
out of the way and let these companies develop it,
then we can see what it can do.

Speaker 1 (01:14:31):
On our any our newsmaker line that is Kevin Keelo.
He is an energy reporter for Just the News, talking
about how the world is now embracing energy abundance. More
coming up on the Rodin Greg Show right here on
Utah's Talk Radio one oh five nine knrs. Great to
be with you on this Wingman Wednesday. We'll be back
tomorrow at four with three more exciting hours of excellence

(01:14:53):
and broadcasting. You look at me like really really really,
we were just we were just talking with Kevin Kilo
about the abundance of energy, right, and the debate over
climate warning goes on all the time. Well, there's more
truth coming out about climate warning. Roy Spencer, the name

(01:15:14):
sounds familiar. He's a University of Alabama Huntsville climate scientists.
Didn't rush used to depend on him? Does that name
ring a bell.

Speaker 2 (01:15:23):
It does.

Speaker 1 (01:15:23):
Rush used to talk about some climate scientists that would
always shoot straight with him about climate change, right. I
think it was him. I may be wrong, but he
had this interesting that he points out about the truth
about global warming. He has determined greg that sixty five
percent of US linear warming trend between eighteen ninety five

(01:15:44):
and twenty two twenty three was due to increasing population density.
Makes sense that we you know, we all gathered in
the large cities. They create a lot of heat, you know,
the buildings that cement everything you've got there, and basically
due to at the suburban in urban stations. Eight percent

(01:16:05):
of the warming was due to urbanization in rural stations,
so it was all concentrated in the major cities. Most
of that effect warming occurred before nineteen seventy as we
built these big cities up okay do so it makes sense.
In other words, man built what he calls heat sinks,

(01:16:25):
which skew the temperature data upward.

Speaker 4 (01:16:28):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:16:28):
And you know, I've heard that for years that some
of the monitoring of the temperature that where they placed
them lent itself to inaccurate readings or making it feel
hotter than it was because of where those temperature sensors
were located. Which were cities?

Speaker 1 (01:16:43):
Yeah, a lot of them, Yeah, a lot of cities.
I don't know if you cut this last night. I
didn't see it last night. I saw it on social
media as they posted on their web page today. I'm
talking about KUTV. They did a story about super speeders.

Speaker 2 (01:16:55):
You mentioned this to me earlier today. You are a
leadfoot yourself. You are a hazard. You are just a
crazy man when I've tried to follow you to an
event before, but you were shocked by the lead feet
of these speeders. So that must mean it's really fast.

Speaker 1 (01:17:11):
Yeah. According to the UHP, this story that Brian Schneid
did on Channel two last night, four six hundred and
sixty eight drivers were contacted by troopers for exceeding the
speed one hundred miles per hour. That it's yeah, and
it mostly happens in wural Utah. And I know you
travel occasionally down to Saint George. Do you see it

(01:17:31):
on your way to Saint George? Do you get zipped
by people? Sometimes?

Speaker 2 (01:17:34):
I get I get passed, but not over one hundred
miles an hour. So I hit, I hit. Once you
get south and you're heading into Washington County. You know
the speed limits eighty I think it's just eighty. I
think it's a high as eighty five. I go eighty three,
and I passed people quite a bit. People some people
may pass me. But for the most part eighties, there
was always this theory. I was in the legislature when

(01:17:56):
it was represented Jim Dunigan that kept working on the
speed limits and uh and everybody thought, you just automatically,
always go ten miles hour whatever the post limit was.
If it's fifty five, you go sixty five, sixty five,
you go seventy five. There's a ten, there is a bottom.
It changes, it starts slowing down. Once you hit eighty
people start going to that speed. I do eighty five,
you do ninety five.

Speaker 1 (01:18:17):
That does look for us tonight, head off, shoulders back.
May God bless you and your family in this great
country of ours. We'll talk to you tomorrow at four

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