The Rod and Greg Show: Congressman Mike Kennedy; Tyler O'Neil of the Daily Signal

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
So I don't know if I'm everick and you're now goose.
I don't know how any of this is going to work,
but it's not sure. All I do know is for fact,
it is wing Man Wednesday. So welcome, folks. We have
a great powerpack show for you today. Great we have
great guests. We have our very own Congressman Mike Kennedy.
I don't know if you paid attention, but he came
on our program, and you as listeners, were the first
to hear about him going down to the Salvador, going

(00:22):
through the prison there, telling us what he saw, what
was going on. And then the Tribune did this store
a local newspaper. I think the brass have told me
I can't keep calling out our locals by their name.
A local fish rap said that Senator or Congressman Kennedy
went to the Al Salvador, but he won't say whether

(00:43):
he went to the prison or not. And that was
after he had said quite a bit on this program,
and Abby bar Bonnell, our news director, had reported dutifully
and quoted him. And it came down to one of
those things where if the if this fishrap paper, if
they don't hear the true you fall. Did it fall?
Apparently they don't think it did, but it did, and
so they issued it a retraction or you know, a

(01:06):
correction a couple of days later that yes, there's a
number of media outlet's it covered Mike Kennedy's center, a
congressman Kennedy's trip down there. They got it wrong. But
you know, hopefully they they said they didn't have his
email address. Right, there's the thing, high level of professional just.

Speaker 2 (01:22):
Me just start listening to this show and then they
would know what the real news is.

Speaker 1 (01:26):
Yeah, but truth hurts. Guess it's too painful for him.

Speaker 2 (01:29):
It would be painful for them.

Speaker 3 (01:31):
You know.

Speaker 1 (01:31):
But what we're going to do is that we're going
to have the congressman on the show today this hour,
and we're going to ask him about a lot of things. Boy,
we have it. We talked about the one hundred days
of Trump's first hundred days of his administration, and a
lot of our callers pointed out and we spoke about
how Congress, a Republican controlled Congress and Senate are now
on the clock. There's a lot that has to happen.

(01:51):
It's a reconciliation bill that's in their possession right now,
a big beautiful bill, a big beautiful reconciliation bill.

Speaker 2 (01:58):
It actually is though, yes.

Speaker 1 (02:01):
But they only have a four member majority, so they
you know, perfect can't be the enemy of good and
an effort like this. And you've got the Democrats that
are all automatic nos no matter what. They've done their
best to try and stop some of the tax cuts
on tips and on overtime. But we're going to talk
to the congressman about where he thinks that effort is
going and how good that is.

Speaker 4 (02:21):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (02:21):
We see reports today that Minority Leader King Jefferies he
wants his colleagues and the Democrats to stop going down
to Al Salvador there. He's starting to see poll numbers
back that it might not be the strongest take for
them to be more passionate and more protective of gang
member wife beating, human trafficking, uh aliens, Yeah, than their

(02:43):
own constituents. It's really not going over as they had hoped,
and so that there was a bulwark which is a
total liberal rag. But they they they reported that he's
saying for they had a source that was a member
of Congress. They had some aids saying he's saying, stop
going he's now trying to say, oh no, no, still we
still care about it, really, but I think he sees
the writing on the wall, so he's trying to tamp

(03:04):
that down. That'll come as a disappointment, I think for
Congressman Kennedy, because I think it was. I think you know,
when someone's in a hole and they keep just keep digging,
just keep going, just keep digging down that hole. So
we get that we've got we talked about this a
little bit yesterday, some crazy legislation from California about children,
and they're not looking to protect children. They're harming children
with the legislation they're running. Well, it's not just California.

(03:26):
We've got two guests that are going to come on
our program later today. One we're going to speak about
a bill, a terrible bill. I'm gonna just say it's
a terrible bill that it just infringes upon parental rights
in ways that you wouldn't even think again is it's
certainly not common sense. But it's worse than that. It's
an affront to parents taking away parental rights. Uh over
the issue of transgender so called rights. And that's in Colorado.

(03:49):
And then we're going to speak with uh the managing
editor of Independent Women's Journal, Andrea and Mu talking about
Washington State and what they did to a counselor who
was trying to counsel a young person. The state went
after this person terribly, but she fought back. She's she
did everything that she's taught as a therapist to do,
and I think she carried the day. So we're gonna

(04:11):
have a good story there out of Washington State. But
so I so we got a lot of you gotta
want to hang on to the show because we've got
a lot of that coming on. And then we got
some great clips. We got some We had a do
you remember when Biden was holding his cabinet meetings? Well
you wouldn't because you never saw one, Okay, so no
one would have any recollection of that. But then old Jill,

(04:32):
doctor Jill but came up and she started she held
one like towards the end of twenty four. Well, I
don't know how many we've seen of this president, but
on day one to oh one, he had a cabinet
meeting and he let's everybody come in, he lets everybody talk,
And so we've got some clips from that cabinet meeting.
I think you'll want to hear and you'll be interested in.

Speaker 2 (04:52):
So you know what, though, Greg, I think that our
theme for this show needs to be something that President
Trump said, yeah yesterday, my favorite thing from his irally
everything that he had this this first hundred days, and
I'd like to see it be the remaining days of
his presidency are a revolution of common sense.

Speaker 1 (05:14):
Right you're here.

Speaker 2 (05:15):
All of this is just a fight of common sense
against absolute nonsensical, destructive ideology.

Speaker 1 (05:23):
And what I love about that, at Carolyn, is that
common sense used to not be partisan. It was just
common sense. It was street smarts, it's you know, you can,
you know, call a spade a spade. It was people
American people without regard to political affiliation, could really come
together on a lot of just normal issues and so
and we would call that common sense. That is actually

(05:45):
I think helped the Republican Party be a party of addition,
and it is really created within the Democrat Party a
party of subtraction because common sense is nowhere to be found.
And we're gonna we throughout this show, if this is
a revolution of common senses Trump has called it going
to We're going to show you We're going to take
it to the revolution. We're going to take you to
this revolution of common sense. And I want to play

(06:06):
two clips before this first segments over where it started.
So he had a big rally yesterday Trump, President Trump did,
and then he sat down with ABC's Terry Moran, who,
by the way, Trump didn't know who Terry morn is.
I happen to know who Terry Moren is. But ABC
wanted to interview the President right there in the Oval office.
It was an exclusive ABC News interview. And I think

(06:32):
this is when you hear just the I just have
a couple of clips. They're not long, but I think
President Trump is very quick to call out that what
he thinks is completely inaccurate or the falsehoods or the
shaping of questions, and I think he thinks are so manipulative.
And again, if you have any common sense and you
hear what he says, you know it will ring true. Now,

(06:53):
brutal honesty, some people don't like it. I personally love
brutal honesty. So this President's immediately honest. I think desperately,
let's hear let's hear a President Trump. They're talking about uh,
they're talking about Pete Heggsath who turns out the reports
show gets one hundred percent negative media coverage, not even
ninety nine percent negative coverage. So Terry Moran asked the

(07:15):
President about his confidence in his secretary of Defense. Up,
very good.

Speaker 5 (07:21):
Defense, hopefully a great defense secretary, but it'll be a
very good defense secretory.

Speaker 1 (07:25):
You have one hundred percent confidence, and you'd have now
one hundred.

Speaker 5 (07:28):
Percent confidence in anything? Okay, anything? Do I have one
hundred percent? It's a stupid question. Look, it's pretty important
because you have no. No, you don't have one hundred percent.
Only a liar would say I have one hundred percent confidence.
I don't have one hundred percent confidence that we're going
to finish this interview.

Speaker 1 (07:47):
Very so that do you have one hundred percent conference?
I don't have a one hundred percent confidence in anyone.
I don't have a one hundred percent confidence that we're
going to finish this interview. So, uh, very good, very blunt.
A little bit more from that, when we come back
from the break, we're going to we're going to listen
a little bit more of common sense. I think that

(08:08):
we have a lot of examples of it. Yeah, ah,
but we'll do it. We'll do it when we come
back after the break. But after we speak to the
good congressman. He's gonna call when we come back after
the break. You're not gonna want to miss this interview.
I got a lot more. I have even told you
what I'm gonna ask about because I can't wait to
get him on the phone. We're gonna talk. He's a
good friend, he's a good, good public servant. So you
want to hang on to listen to that. You're listening
to Utah's Talk Radio one oh five nine, Kay and arrests.

Speaker 2 (08:32):
Hey, I don't care about that. I just hope he
calls it the Carolyn and Greg show as well, and
then I'm good.

Speaker 1 (08:36):
Nobody wants to be cross with you. So I think
you've just absolutely pressured for Mike Kennedy into saying that
a congressman. Welcome to the show, sir, thanks for having
me on.

Speaker 6 (08:45):
I think we should call it wing Woman Wednesday.

Speaker 1 (08:48):
You know, leave it to you to come up with
a great wing woman Wednesday. There you go. See, that's beautiful.
Speaking of beautiful that you have, I think you have
a reconciliation bill over there in the house, a big
and beautiful bill as it's been described by the President.
You kind of only got a four member majority. You
and I served together in the state House. This is

(09:09):
going to be a tough I think it's a heavy lift.
How are you feeling about this reconciliation bill? You got
a tax hike coming. If you don't get the votes,
you don't get a passed. There's a lot of other
things inside that bill. Congressman, how do you feel about
things right now amongst your colleagues and getting this big
beautiful bill passed.

Speaker 6 (09:28):
Yeah, Republicans are independent minded and it's hard to get
them to unite. But President Trump has driven a United
Republican Party into some very good territory on multiple levels.
So as precedents for that, we've passed our budget resolution
and then we're able to kind of get to this
big beautiful bill. So the reality is, and we prevented

(09:48):
a government shutdown with a continued resolution, which you and
I both know. I do not want continued resolutions. I
want regular or budgets. But in this case we had
to do that. We stuck it on Chuck Schumer. He
was left for the government shutdown. So the Republicans have united,
They've been united and that's going to be the name
of winning if we are able to continue to be united.

(10:10):
So what's happening right now is that each committee that's
been challenged to find savings and also promote various budget
aspects that they're all working that through the process Transportation, infrastructure.
We just did that today. It estimated ten billion dollars
in savings that we can promote with that. So actually

(10:30):
we're heading in the right direction. Greg and Carolyn and
I feel good about it because we're under the leadership
of good, strong personalities that are actually helping us.

Speaker 4 (10:38):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (10:38):
I think that probably has a lot to do with
the unity right that we're finally seeing among Republicans is
so strong.

Speaker 6 (10:47):
Hard thing because we all want perfect, but don't let
the perfect be the enemy of the good, is what
Greg always said on a new speaker And I just
think that's a really important part for us to focus on.
Is inside this reconciliation package, which we can pass with
fifty one senators. We don't need we can we don't
need sixty senators to do this, so we can we

(11:08):
can actually do this and get a good package forward
that's going to prevent a huge tax increase that are
going to come and also promote the economy of our country,
which is going to be a big win for.

Speaker 4 (11:19):
All of us.

Speaker 2 (11:20):
Right, So I have a question for you about that
very thing. We are watching President Trump realign international interests,
the I think the whole world economy with some of
the moves that he's making and the people he's bringing
to the table for negotiation. And I think the American
people have proven that they want leadership, they want strong leadership.

(11:43):
He has proven that this is the time for that. So,
you know, beyond this reconciliation bill, what are your thoughts
as far as what we've seen in Congress. I think,
for my entire lifetime or most of it, is a
whole lot of people going back there and going along
with the status quo, not seeing this kind of leadership.
So give me yourself.

Speaker 6 (12:04):
Yeah, that's an excellent point, because I did. I took
this strip to Brazil and Panama El Salvador. I was
in that prison. As you know, the Salt Fake Tribune
ended up plishing that. I was trying to hide that
out talking to you folks right after I got back
from that trip. And by the way, yeah, thank you
for that, because they were throwing into the busy. I'm

(12:27):
happy to tell everybody about this, but the reality is
China's on the march in Central and South America. And
one thing, as soon as the election happened on the
Panama Canal, all of a sudden we found out that
China has a port on one side of the Panama
Canal and a port on the other side of.

Speaker 7 (12:44):
The Panama Canal.

Speaker 6 (12:45):
And when I was in Panama, the Interior Minister was
telling us, for twenty five years, we've been calling the
United States and nobody picks up the phone. And as
a country that struggles, as many of these Central and
South American countries struggle financially, if China is going to
blandish roads and bridges and Huawei five G networks on

(13:06):
these countries and in this case, Chinese ports on either
side of the Panama Canal, you know, we didn't find
that out until after the election. Why because President Trump
cares about our national security, cares about the United States
having access to the canal that it built many years
ago at great cost human life and treasure. And now
we have black Rock, which you know, you can think

(13:27):
what you want of them, but the idea that great
those Chinese ports are going to be sold to Blackrock,
and we're going to be more secure as the nation
as a result because President Trump is on the watch.
That's a really big win for the United States.

Speaker 1 (13:39):
Yeah, So, Congressman, some of our callers when we talked
about tell us about the president's first hundred days. Some
of our callers said, look, it's good so far, or
a B or an A or something that gave them
a worse grade. But they were really staring at Congress saying,
if this majority and albeit slim majority in the House
and the majority in the Senate are not able to

(14:00):
implement budgets with the findings of DOGE and the savings
that are there, if if we don't see out of Congress,
a Republican Congress, the things that that President Trump's talking about,
then we don't think that this president is as successful
as we thought he would be. So you're kind of
the domestic You're you're the ones that can really bolster

(14:21):
this agenda that he has here in the country. But
Carolyn just mentioned it, But tell me about DOGE. Tell
me its relationship in terms of how there was so
much money it appears that was outside of Congressional oversight
and your control or you're even understanding of how much
of that money was going out to these groups, and
how much of that are you going to be able

(14:41):
to get your arms around and pull back and maybe
shrink this budget? Thirty six trillion in debt, two trillion
a year growing in debt. How much of that can
you pull back? Given what we know the Trump administration
has been working on.

Speaker 6 (14:54):
Rescission of funds is a massive part of what we're
focusing on. The ev mandates and all the Green New
Deal energy ridiculousness that was blandished by the Biden administration
on various industries that don't even have proof of capacity
to do those things. So we're working on those things,
as you both know, through the congressional process, the legislative process.
It takes us time to do these things. But in

(15:15):
that period of time, I'll point to Congress's passage of
the Lake and Riley Act, which actually was any illegal
alien in this country it's committing heinous, violent crimes, they
will be immediately deported. And in the case of that
Lincoln Riley, a great nursing student was murdered by an
illegal alien, that would have saved her because this individual
that murdered her was actually he committed violent crimes at

(15:39):
least twice prior to his act against her. We've also
passed a No Rogue Rulings Act, which, as Congress looks
to these judges that one judge can pass a law
for the whole country as to prisident Trump's executives and
agenda too far. And so we passed that. But the
other part you both know and your listeners know is
that the Senate has to do those things as well

(16:00):
as the president's signature. And what the Senate has been
doing for the past eight weeks is confirming they've been
putting together the president's administration. So the Senate is behind
on some of these things. The President is eager, so
Congress is eager to do those things. And I'll finish
just by saying Congress, for ages has been giving the
executive branch way too much authority, and I think it's

(16:22):
a lack of responsibility on Congress's part, and I'm interested
in taking those powers back. But even more important to me,
making Utah big and making Washington, DC small, I think
most of these things should be done on the state side.
We do way too much here. In Washington, d C.
And I'm committed to making this place as small as
possible in the period of time that I can serve

(16:43):
you good people.

Speaker 1 (16:43):
Love it, love it. Congressman Mike Kennedy, thank you so
much for your public service, all the good work you're doing.
I have so much confidence, more confidence with you on
the clock. By the way, make sure your colleagues know
when you guys gave that to Schumer to have to
deal with that man's at seventeen percent approval rating, the
lowest member of Congress in the history. They've been kept
measuring because he's the one that had to either shut
down the government or get it through. And you guys

(17:06):
did a heck of a job. So good job. Keep
up the good work, and thanks for joining us.

Speaker 8 (17:10):
We'll do thank you, Thank you, Congressman.

Speaker 1 (17:13):
Mike Kennedy, giving us a real deal. What's happening out
there with that reconciliation, big beautiful bill that the president's
looking for. We have a lot more to go over
as we continue on this Wingman Wednesday, on Utah's Talk
Radio one oh five nine can Arrests, we were just
speaking with the Congressman about the big beautiful bill reconciliation
bill they have in front of him. You know, look,

(17:33):
he said I took from that interviews that they're ready
to go. He says the Senate saying, look, we did
a lot of confirmation hearings we had to vote on
on you know, Trump's cabinet. He thinks they're they're a
little bit further behind the curve, but that they're coming along.
He and he does point out, and I think accurately so,
that the President is taking what was a pretty fractured

(17:54):
house of Republicans in the House and has brought him
even with the you know, when they did the bill
that they prevented the government from shutting down, That's something
that Speaker Johnson wasn't able to accomplish prior to Trump's election. So,
you know, I think I do see some good signs
coming out of that place. So I want to go
on this. I want to just continue the revolution of

(18:14):
common sense that Trump said that his first hundred days
and probably the rest hopefully the rest of this of
this administration will be. And I have to go back,
and I know I played at the beginning one of
the exchanges between the President and ABC's Terry Moran. ABC
news is Terry Moran in the Oval office. There's a
lot of common sense he was sharing with him there
where he says, you know, do you believe you do?

(18:37):
You have one hundred percent confidence? And your secretary of
Defense he says, I don't have one hundred percent comments
to anyone, anyone to tell you that you're lying. I
don't even have one hundred percent comments. We're going to
finish this interview, which was a beautiful, I think, retort.
So now let's hear Terry Moran asks the president some
other questions. Let's hear the response from the president, because
I think it just exudes common sense what he says.

(18:58):
Even if it's true, it might hurt a little bit.
So let's have a listen.

Speaker 5 (19:02):
Do you think the reputation in the United States has
gone down under your presidence? No, I think it's gone
way up. But I think we're respected country again. We
were left at all over the world. We had a
president that couldn't walk up a flight of stairs, couldn't
walk down a flight of stairs, couldn't walk across the
stage without falling. We had a president that was grossly incompetent.

(19:24):
You knew it. I knew it. And everybody knew it,
but you guys didn't want to write it because you're
fake news.

Speaker 8 (19:28):
All right.

Speaker 3 (19:29):
Thank you.

Speaker 1 (19:30):
By the way, ABC is one of the worst.

Speaker 5 (19:32):
I have to be honest.

Speaker 1 (19:33):
Okay, thank you.

Speaker 4 (19:35):
I hear.

Speaker 1 (19:35):
I hear. Terry murmais is your fake news. You're one
of the worst. Thank you, he said, thank you. You
know again, that might sound a little rough, but I'm
telling you, this is a rough and tumble game. And
this guy is they have I mean, he is pushing back,
I think appropriately, and he's saying Biden couldn't walk across
the street, he couldn't walk upstairs down. You never reported it,
That's what he's calling him out appropriately.

Speaker 2 (19:57):
And I think that's one of the biggest issues here
right now. That was so evident for every single American
and leader around the world to recognize that we had
a president who was not functioning, and we had media
that refused for four years to cover that.

Speaker 1 (20:13):
That's right, and accusing the Republicans of the worst motives
for suggesting that that might be the case. I mean,
you even had that Joe Scarborough right before, you know,
before he dropped out. He's as sharp as I've ever
seen him. We've known him for three years. If you
don't like it, then you can hit the row because
he's never been better, He's never been sharper. I don't
know how that guy still has a show he can
say what he does. And then the most laughable part

(20:34):
about all that for me at Carolyn is that this
media now they're writing books looking to profit. The book
about what the media missed is if they're reporting on themselves. Now,
look what we didn't cover, Look what we didn't do.
So you absolutely knew it was the case. You didn't
want to help you. You hit it because you didn't
want it to help Trump at all. You had a

(20:54):
horse in the race. You want your horse to win
because you hate Trump. And then once you get caught,
once America and people said this is an absolute farce,
you now want to write a book and make money
from that book saying, look, look what the media didn't do.

Speaker 2 (21:08):
Oh what, but they are a member of that's right,
and you want all of us to patch you on
the back and celebrate the fact that you are the
brave voice speaking words of truth. I'm grateful that Trump
is putting us to a place of sanity, common sense
and truth speaking again, some of these stories we're going

(21:29):
to talk about and interviews that we'll do later on
in the show, make it evident that truth speaking is
not what has been driving much of what's been going
on in this country the past few years. Right, But
don't stand up now when it's easy and try to
take credit as a hero.

Speaker 5 (21:46):
I know.

Speaker 1 (21:47):
And here's the thing. Some people regret when something happens.
Some people hate it when they get caught. I think
all you're hearing from the media is that they've been
caught red handed. They know it. That's why this election
was That's why their poll numbers are so down. Before
we go to the break, can we play a real
quick clip. This is Chuck Schumer. This is why he
has the lowest approval rating of any member of Congress ever.

(22:07):
The whole purpose of this press conference is for him
to herald, or to least tell the American people that
Trump after one hundred days, is the least popular president
after one hundred day administration since they've been polling for
eighty years. But then someone asked him about his own polling.
You got to hear this pivot that this guy makes
and why he has no credibility Americans are noticing.

Speaker 9 (22:27):
The polls this week show Trump has the lowest one
hundred day approval rating since they started polling eighty years ago,
the lowest even worse. Seventy two percent of Americans think
it's likely that Trump's handling of the economy will will
walk us directly into a recession. Can people who hate

(22:50):
what Trump is proposing?

Speaker 4 (22:52):
Yes, yes, here's a call.

Speaker 2 (22:55):
Out sday that has your approval ratings.

Speaker 4 (22:57):
Lower a any younger congressional leader.

Speaker 8 (23:00):
Team For a second, are you concerned.

Speaker 2 (23:01):
That he maybe a liability for your polls?

Speaker 1 (23:04):
Come and go, our party as united we're poles, Come
and go. I'm here to tell you that the polls
say that Trump is bad. Your numbers are seventeen percent
lowest of any member of Congress. And as a leader,
a congressional leader, are you concerned you're dragging your party down?
Polls come and go, It comes, don't mean anything. Yeah,
so you know you can't even And that was in
the same press call from the same conference. That was

(23:26):
just a no consistency. No, that wasn't They grabbed him,
grabbed him at a later event. You still talk, It's
the same press conference. It's just a minute or two later,
and he just can't even hold the narrative throughout the
whole uh press conference. It's that bad. Okay, folks. When
we come back, we're gonna keep talking about these issues again.
It is the revolution of common sense that Trump has

(23:47):
started in one hundred days, and as we go forward,
we're going to keep talking about this revolution of common
sense when we come back here on the Rowden greg Show,
special guest Carolyn Fippen here on Talk Radio one oh
five nine. Okay, and arrests.

Speaker 2 (23:59):
Looks like that minerals deal was finally signed between the
US and Ukraine.

Speaker 1 (24:04):
That's a big deal.

Speaker 2 (24:05):
It's a big deal. Not a lot of details are
out on it yet, but I would guess that it
probably isn't as good for Ukraine as it might have
been thirty forty five days ago.

Speaker 1 (24:14):
You mean, when he came to the White House and
the start. Yeah, you know it is. I think this
is for everyone that thought that Trump was on the
you know, in the bag for poodle exactly. Mitaila says
here in the United States and Ukraine have sign an
agreement to establish a Ukraine United States Ukraine Reconstruction Investment Fund.
This is going to ensure an economic partnership which positions

(24:35):
both countries to work collaboratively together and invest together to
ensure that their mutual interests, talents, and capabilities can accelerate
Ukraine's economic recovery.

Speaker 2 (24:45):
Think about that. And by the way, I don't know
if you guys talked about this on the show at all,
but there is a lot of I think, very informed
speculation that a deal like this will go a long
way in protecting Ukraine against Russia because Russia doesn't want
to go to war with US.

Speaker 1 (25:02):
Yes, as soon as these are American interests, you're not
trying to interrupt. Now it's a whole different ballgame, and
this is where Trump has tried to get from the start.
I think this agreement is going to be incredibly significant,
and it does slow the role of Putin and what
he wanted to do or thought he could do. And again,
you just got to let this president cook. Okay, just
let him let him get out there, let him do

(25:22):
this job, let him do what he's trying to do.
I think that that's a very I think that agreement
coming across the newswires right now, a lot of people
should be happy because a lot of people thought that
something like that wouldn't happen. And I do think you're
going to see the posture from Russia change here dramatically,
and they're going to look for a piece deal. They're
going to look for a way to get out of there.

(25:43):
You know, whatever Obama gave away by way of CRIMEA,
you know, ten years ago. I don't know that that's
part of this new deal. I don't know that they
can reverse that. They should have worked on that ten years,
ten years, I think if that's what they were worried about.
But I do think what's happened over the last three years,
I think you're going to see some great progress made
and you're gonna see Ukraine reconstructed, back, recover. And that's

(26:04):
what we actually, frankly have to see, and a whole
lot of live safd yes. And we didn't go to
work like you did. Never saw the Bidy administration even
interested in something like this where American interest would be
part of hand and glove what Ukraine was going through,
because that would give America a much stronger position and
back them off. Okay, when we come back, folks, we're
coming to a break. There was breaking news today about

(26:25):
bad economic news. CNN was very happy about this. We're
gonna break this down. We're gonna play it for you,
translate it for you when we come back after the break.
So calen, you know, and ladies and gentlemen. I don't
know if you were listening to the news this morning,
but it sounded pretty dire. CNN broke into normal programming
because they had a big, big announcement to make. This

(26:46):
was some stunning breaking news. I had the video, I
got breaking news on the screen just scrolling past it
and big big font. Let's have a listen to what
in the world was making such a big fuss this morning.
We'll have breaking news.

Speaker 10 (27:01):
GDP numbers, basically economic growth for the first quarter of
this year, our first chance to get a glimpse of
how the Trump economic agenda is affecting the economy. And
if I'm reading them correctly, GDP came in at minus
point three percent, which would be the first quarterly contraction

(27:23):
I believe since twenty twenty two.

Speaker 1 (27:26):
With this, now we're looking to have CNA point three three.
I'm writing this down point three three. That is a contraction.
It's true, it is, it's true. So breaking news. That's
breaking news. It sounds pretty dire, sounds pretty serious, sounds
like the economy is just plummeting at this point three percent. Now,

(27:47):
let me ask you the last quarter of the year
in twenty twenty four, last three months of that year,
you saw a GDP grow. What would cause a point
three percent decrease?

Speaker 2 (27:58):
Huh? That we all want to see?

Speaker 4 (28:01):
Right?

Speaker 2 (28:02):
We had an economy where twenty five percent of it
was driven by federal spending. Our GDP twenty five percent,
twenty four percent federal spending, by the way, government spending
overall thirty six percent of GDP. So when we see
government cutting out the waste and fraud and abuse like

(28:23):
we are hopefully starting to see and will continue to see,
of course there's going to be a contraction. And I
can tell you want to say so.

Speaker 1 (28:31):
No, I'm listening to you. I'm just laughing because all
I can think of is when when Biden had his
job growth numbers, there were government jobs. When you when
you saw the growth, when they were printing money and
sending it to all these bureaucracies, they were counting that
as growth.

Speaker 2 (28:46):
They were counting that as growth. We saw in the
Biden administration the last two years of his administration, we
were losing six thousand manufacturing jobs a month, a month
in the first hundred days of Trump, We've seen an
increase of nine thousand manufacturing jobs in one hundred days,

(29:07):
complete reverse.

Speaker 1 (29:08):
So if we take the federal so we heard all
the we've heard since he's taken off as all the cutting,
all the waste going on in the federal government. I
didn't I didn't even know about it. I was pretty
cynical going in, and I cannot believe. I've been completely
flabbergasted by the amount of waste, even fraud of federal money,
even outside of Congress's purview, not them not even knowing

(29:30):
how much in the billions of dollars anyway. So it
would stand to reason that as you're finding that and
stopping that, if they were counting that on the plus side,
which they shouldn't because you got to print money to
even do that, right, that that you would see that retraction.
But on the private sector side, you're the comment you
made about this manufacturing how much it's grown since just
in the first hundred days of Trump's administration. It's significant.

(29:52):
And when CNN was interviewing a White House official this morning,
you know, because of the pearl clutching news of the
economy recoiling. Let's hear what the White House had to
say about about this news book.

Speaker 11 (30:05):
You know, I don't think that this morning's GDP print
is consistent with an economy that's under any sort of stress.
If you look at it, investment grew twenty two percent.
Is surge in private investment twenty two percent in the
last quarter. That's not what firms do when they're concerned
about the economic Look, that's not what firms do when
the economy is shrinking as a whole. That's what firms
do when they believe in the future and that they're
reshoring activity and they're bringing production activity back to the

(30:26):
United States, which is exactly what the President said would
happen and is exactly what's happening.

Speaker 1 (30:31):
So yeah, that's what I mean. To your point, private
investment up twenty two percent.

Speaker 2 (30:38):
Do you know how much consumer spending was up? It
was up two percent. So he talks about investors having
confidence in the future of this country. An increase in
consumer spending tells me that not only do investors have confidence,
but regular people have confidence in the growth that is
taking place in this economy and that will continue.

Speaker 1 (31:00):
Well, you know to that point, the Dow didn't close down.
The Dow closed up, SMP five hundred closed up, closed
up big time. Yes, that doesn't sound like that that
they you know, they're the most finicky people in the world.
They're the people that have a time horizon of twenty minutes.
They're the ones that always, you know, are overreacting. They're
not even overreacting to the news that the CNN is

(31:21):
trying to frame as there's some kind of calamity going on.
But here's an interesting one. I like this, uh this morning,
they interviewed the CEO of Ford. So we know that
the tariff. You know, we have these trade agreements going on.
We want to incentivize that, you know, more manufacturing here
in the United States. Some of the parts, some of
the ways that you would accomplish that you don't have
the manufacturers for the parts that you would otherwise need.

(31:43):
Some of the things to build completely in America are
not there. So what Trump said is on the automakers,
We're going to give a runway of that tariff to
come to help some of these other manufacturers that that
you know, these automakers use to build their cars, that
they will have the time to be able to do it.
So he put on the pause. Well, they asked the
Ford CEO this morning about the overall agenda of the

(32:04):
president in terms of his trade you know it's trade agenda,
and then about specifically about the automobile industry, and how
does Ford feel about what the President's doing. Let's have
a listen to what the Ford CEO had to say.

Speaker 7 (32:16):
Well, first of all, Ford is really different. We make
eighty percent in the US, more than any other manufacturer.
In fact, we made four hundred thousand more vehicles than
our next competitor, and that would fill up the entire
island in Manhattan. That's how big of a gap we've made.
So look, we think this is really great for the country.
We really support the President's initiative. We never left the

(32:39):
America on car production, and so this moderation is reasonable.
I think for mostly our competitors they need more time.
But at Ford, we're in good shape and this is
the right thing to do. We really appreciate the dialogue
we've had with the President, but we have a lot
more work to do with him and the team.

Speaker 4 (33:00):
Go.

Speaker 1 (33:00):
I mean, that's again they've been making most of their
cars in the United States. Anyway, it helps probably their competitors,
but they're not afraid of that. They just think, again,
the rising tide's gonna lift all ships.

Speaker 8 (33:09):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (33:09):
And I find this interesting as well because a lot
of the chattering class, and by the way, the lobbying class,
many of whom I know, have had and have expressed
to me, massive concerns about these tariffs and the things
that the President is doing, this realignment that we all know,
if it plays out the way it should, will benefit

(33:31):
the United States in the long run. All of them
are freaking out every step of the way. And here
you have Ford acknowledging how it benefits them and benefits
their competitors, and how it will be a good thing
for the American people in the long run. And they
are not concerned.

Speaker 1 (33:47):
No, they're not. And you know, when we come back
from the break, here's a couple more clips I want
to play because I want to put this in perspective.
You've got a lot of you have a lot of
people that are still wanting the everyday Americans to worry
about the stock marketer, want them to worry about these
trade partnerships. I don't know where that where. I don't
even know where the basis for this comes from. Because
even from the New York Times when they create the

(34:08):
list of those countries that want to sit down with
the United States and redo the deal, have a reciprocal
trade agreement, look at on shoring manufacturing on our country,
looking at lowering tariffs for exports of the United States
into their country, looking to draw maybe imports that come
in there. I'd love to see China have less in
the textiles and the shoes, like some of those things.

(34:30):
See that maybe in Vietnam or Malaysias, maybe they're stronger
trade relationships that can happen there. I think this isn't
one or the other one thing, just like I do
think there's a multi prong attack going on here when
we come back from the break. I just think that
there are some good voices out there that are framing
this the right way about the American people got left
behind in all of these conversations, all of these conversations,

(34:53):
all of these trade you know, the trade and tariffs
and if it's if it's right, is there certainty, does
it cost more? You didn't hear any of this during
the Biden administration. You didn't hear any of this.

Speaker 2 (35:03):
We have never heard any of this my entire lifetime.
These discussions President Trump is bringing to all of us,
these conversations that have really been hidden from the American
people for at least a generation.

Speaker 1 (35:17):
Our economy has been measurably impacted in the negative over
the last thirty years. At least last thirty years. We're
going to get when we come back from the break.
We're going to share with you some of the details
of what it really means for everyday Americans use our listeners, me,
my family, Carolyn, you, you, your family? What does this
economy mean? Where are we going from here? It's not
where CNN it says we're going, that's for sure. So
you want to hang on through the break. You're listening

(35:39):
to the Rotten Greg Show here on Talk radio one
oh five nine annerus. We're talking about the breaking news
from CNN that it's recoiling. It's true, the GDP is
down point three percent. Not really mentioning how much of
government spending is slowing down or not being spent because
we have, you know, Trump administration in charge now, and

(36:00):
they are finding a ton of waste you're seeing that happen.
That's that stuff was actually called economic growth. Is they
printed money to do it right and Biden administration and others.
So you're seeing some of that. But then you've heard
the twenty two percent you know, invest private investment increase,
and you and the Statue gave on the increase in
manufacturing jobs that have just taken place recently. And there's

(36:22):
commitments over five years of so many companies that are
coming on shore and actually recommitting to build here or
manufacture here in the United States. So all of these
are good signs. So so it leads it begs the question,
so then what what can you actually believe? Because you know,
there's there's economists out there that are telling you that
this is all bad. This is a that the GDP

(36:42):
going down even point three percent as a retraction of
this economy. But this is a person who I'm hearing
a lot from lately, who's a Democrat, but she is
fully supportive of Trump because he is for the everyday people,
the everyday man and woman, the you know, the revolution
of common sense includes your everyday American. And she is
holy and it has always been holly for and on

(37:03):
behalf of defending the working class and the middle class
of America. So she's trying to explain to these elitists,
why you know that point three percent and you're slowing
down of government spending doesn't really impact the everyday American
people the way you think it does. And she gives
them good examples. Let's have a listen.

Speaker 12 (37:24):
Well, you know, people keep saying the working class is
going to bear the brunt of the price hikes, that
the tires are inflationary. That's not what inflation is. Okay,
it's not inflation. When an iPhone, which is a luxury good,
starts to cost more for the elites who can afford
to have a new iPhone every year, that's not the

(37:46):
same as when gas and groceries become unaffordable. When we
think about working class Americans bearing the brunt of something,
you have to ask yourself, what are these people consuming
that they have to consume that are not a luxury item,
and that stuff is actually getting cheaper. Gas is getting cheaper,
and food is getting cheaper. So like the idea that
all price hikes are the same as the inflation that

(38:10):
we just got through with Biden is just total nonsense.
And I have heard Barry from so many She.

Speaker 1 (38:16):
Goes on, but I'm just going to tell you right there,
it's the essentials. It's the things that you have to
pay your rent, your mortgage, You got to pay fuel
for your you got to fill up your gas tank
in your car. The food that comes to the grocery
stores came in trucks that have to pay fuel for
their deliveries. There's so there's all of that inflationary impact
and the cost of fuel. You know, they didn't even
add the cost of fuel in your inflation when they

(38:37):
measure it because it's so volatile, they say, and so,
and they don't actually include energy in that inflation number.
So those are the things that we were really really
being impacted by in a negative way during the Biden administration,
of which all these talking heads on these in the
regime media didn't have a single thing. They wouldn't even
they wouldn't even acknowledge its existence.

Speaker 2 (38:58):
No, yeah, no. And the fact that they're now calling
some of the impacts of tariffs right which are real
for the time being, I think some of them will
be real over the long term, but calling that inflation,
and to her point, on items that are luxury goods

(39:19):
that are not things that people need to survive after
they were crushed by inflation under the Obama I mean
the Biden years, and these guys had nothing to say
about it. I mean when we were in here earlier,
you made the point, Greg you were celebrating the price
of eggs.

Speaker 1 (39:34):
Right, it's dropped finally in Utah. I've been waiting for this.
Everyone keeps saying nationally, the deads are going down. Eighteen
eggs costs US four thirty four forty two, four thirty
nine or no, I'm sorry, seven forty two, seven dollars
and thirty nine cents, and it went down to seven
twenty five. Finally, Queen Bee just sent me a text
today while we were five dollars eighty two cents or

(39:54):
eighteen eggs. We're finally feeling it here in Utah. We're
seeing the prices come down.

Speaker 2 (39:59):
I know. And my chickens have they to me? They
charged me so much more than that, just survived so
much more. But I know that was a really big concern.
Eggs is something that you can it's it's a basic
It's used in lots of things that we make. It
gives you a lot of good protein, and the prices

(40:20):
had spiked so much. It's something that everybody purchases, so
people noticed it, right, It was easy to track that
spending as an indicator or that pricing as an indicator
of what was going on in the economy. And uh yeah,
finally dropping and and.

Speaker 1 (40:36):
I want to leave right before we go to the break,
I want to leave with this with this. Uh So,
we had a we had a cabinet meeting today, like
we've had many of them so far in the first
hundred hundred and one day. Yes, and so you get
to hear from these cabinet secretaries and they're very open
with the media gets to come in and they're very transparent.
You never saw this before with Biden, and you know,
so you're seeing you're getting some very frank conversation. Secretary

(40:58):
of State Rubio had a lot to say, but it
goes to this point of he's going to protect just
as you heard, the everyday American worker and every day
American that makes up the greatness of this country have
been long forgotten and not with this president and even
with his secretary of State. I love how my Secretary
Marco Rubio describes his job description as it's been given

(41:20):
to him by President Trump. Let's let's have a listen.

Speaker 13 (41:23):
We have this president inherited thirty years of foreign policy
that was built around what was good.

Speaker 3 (41:28):
For the world.

Speaker 13 (41:29):
In essence, the decisions we made as a government in
trade and foreign policy was basically, is it good for
the world? Is it good for the global community? And
under President Trump, we're making a foreign policy. Now that's
what was it good for America? I was appointed by
you and confirmed by the Senate to be the head
of the United States Department of State, not the World

(41:51):
Department of State, not the Global Department of State, the
United States Department of State. Now what that means is
our foreign policy is guided by three things. Does it
make America stronger? Does America make America safer? It doesn't
make America Richard. If something doesn't do one of those
three things, and hopefully all three of those things, we're
not doing it.

Speaker 1 (42:08):
Now, there you go. That says it all. We got
to go to a break right now, we come back.
We're gonna shift gears a little bit. We got a
great guest coming on, Tyler and Neil. We're gonna talk
about this nightmare trans custody bill that is going through
their legislative process in Colorado. Important that we bring some
attention to it. It's a pretty frightening concept. So we'll

(42:29):
talk to Tyler when we get back from this break.
You're listening to Talk Radio one O five nine Canras.
Joining me is my guest host for the week, Carolyn Fippen. Carolyn,
thank you for joining us on the show. This is
our wing Well Congressman Kennedy called it wing Woman Wednesday.
You're here, but it's a wing Man Wednesday edition. Let's
just jump to our color because this is an issue

(42:49):
that we've been talking about the economy. We've been talking
about a lot of things, but this is a pretty
scary story coming out of Colorado right now. The Colorado
Legislature has a bill that I think attack PAS parental
rights in a way that I just don't know. If
there's a if there's a poll out there that says
a parent is good with this bill, I think they
ought to be maybe their kids ought to be dating,

(43:10):
because I don't know how it can work. Joining us
on the program is is Tyler O'Neill, Managing editor of
The Daily Signal. Tyler, thank you for joining us on
the program, maybe you could share with our listeners what
this bill and it's in the it's a house bill
and the Colorado State legislature, but it's in the state Senate,
which means it's past the House. What would this bill do?

Speaker 4 (43:32):
Yeah, No, I mean, excellent question, Greg, thanks again for
having me. So this bill would define as coercive control
any sort of ideological violation of the gender ideology movement.
So essentially, what it says is when there are situations

(43:53):
the custody battle between a mother and a father about
their you know, where where their child should go, if
they have committed what's called misgendering or dead naming, that
would be considered coercive control and would be a key
thing the judge has to consider when determining custody. And

(44:14):
what this means is if you disagree with gender ideology,
with the idea that your so called internal sense of
gender overrides your biology, then you could face the loss
of custody of your children in the state. You know,
in the state that I grew up in and you know,
the beautiful Centennial state. The fact that this has passed

(44:37):
the Colorado House already, Yeah, is moving forward in the
Colorado Senate is just terrifying and chilling for parental rights
in that really important state.

Speaker 2 (44:48):
Yeah, so, Tyler, this has to be we keep hearing
about these eighty twenty issues. This has got to be
one of those eighty twenty issues. And the fact is,
right now we have a president bringing sanity back to
this conversation about realities of biological sex. We're all noticing
some shifts taking place nationally federally, but yet things like

(45:11):
this are still going on. So what do you suggest
as a strategy for the eighty percent of saying people
in this country who need to push back against this
kind of really dangerous legislation.

Speaker 4 (45:27):
Well, I think making your voice known is the key thing.
And you know, this is where I can have some
positive news on this issue because today, you know, you
had the first hearing on this bill in the Colorado
State Senate and the you know, the line to testify
was crazy long. There was an extra you know, they

(45:50):
had an extra room marked for the testimony for everybody
that wanted to testify. Yeah, and you know, I think
it's really important. It sends a very important message and
even those you know LGBT activist groups that we're pushing
this bill are starting to say, wait a second, we
need to reconsider this. And you know, naturally I don't

(46:13):
trust them as far as I can throw them. But
these groups, you know, the fact that they sense that
the political wins are against them, I think that's a
very important spot. Ultimately, we're going to see where this goes.
There's a lot of uh, there's a lot of dissension
in the Colorado Democratic Party right now where people are

(46:34):
accusing each other of betrayal. That's that's a good sign
that the bill is radioactive. I hope that you know.
And unfortunately, you know, this isn't the only bill that's
going through the Colorado House and Senate right now that
that should bother us. Yesterday I wrote about another bill

(46:55):
regarding illegal aliens, and this is a situation. Colorado is
a sanctuary state. And I don't think most people know this,
but Colorado passed multiple laws that say that if you
are you know, a law enforcement official, you can't report
people's immigration status to ICE. And they're recently passing another

(47:16):
bill that says, and get this, because I think you're
going to fall out of your seats on this one,
you can in Colorado if you're an illegal alien, you
can apply for driver's licenses and in state tuition, you
have to say that you are already you know, you're
in the process of applying for legal status. That's a

(47:38):
requirement right now. This new bill that is also being
advocated in the Colorado House would say that you don't
have to say that you're even trying for legal status
in order to gain these state benefits. And so they
have welcoming they have special money laid aside to welcome

(48:00):
aliens to the country to Colorado. It's it's insane. I mean,
if you look at the way they're immigration. There a
sanctuary state as well, but there's also a gender so
called gender affirm and care. I mean, it's the most
Awellian term out there if you ask na. Yeah, because
these interventions would make you, you know, they undermine your

(48:22):
body's ability to do one of the fundamental things. If
you've studied biology, one of the fundamental things that we
do as as biological beings is reproduce. And if you,
in the name of gender ideology, essentially castrate yourself. This
is something they want to define as essential healthcare and

(48:43):
want to mandate all sorts of healthcare coverage cover. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (48:48):
Yeah, I was gonna say that's that's chemical castration or
physical castration. That gender affirming care is what they're trying
to do. Let me, we're coming up on a breakback.
I just want to ask you this because I because
you're saying that there is a great turnout and this
is doesn't it? You know, if President Trump says we're
in a revolution of common sense, which he described a
one hundred days and maybe going forward, it has got

(49:10):
to be common sense to our parents, without regard to
political affiliation whatsoever, that they if they have to give
permission for a field trip, if they have to give
permission for their child to take aspirin at the nurse's office,
that knowing or being able to exercise raising their children
as they see as parents, it's their right. It's it's
something that you can't take away from them. The rhetoric

(49:30):
has gotten so bad, and I would hope that there
would be a political consequence because it was only twenty
years ago that the Republicans had a pretty strong hold
on the state of Colorado. You have a Democrat state
representative who has likened parental groups to the klu klux Klan.
Now I I honestly, Tyler, if you're a parent and
you see these parental groups that are out there fighting

(49:51):
for parental rights, how could you ever vote for a
party that would liken a parental group as the klu
klux Klan. I mean, how is that going over in Colorado?

Speaker 4 (50:01):
That's that's an excellent question. I don't think it's going
to go over well. And that's one of the main
reasons why we're talking about this issue nationally is because
that Democrat in Colorado decided. And by the way, this
is not just a one off. You know, comparing parental
rights groups to the ku Kluxlan is something that the
Southern Poverty Law Center has been doing for years. And

(50:24):
this is an organization I wrote a book about them
in twenty twenty called Making Hate Pay the corruption the
Southern Poverty Law Center. My recent book, The Woke to
Pus the Dark Bundy Cabal Manipulating the Federal government is
all about how the SPLC and other left radical left
wing groups infiltrated and advised the Biden administration, pushing woke

(50:45):
ideology through the administrative state. And I think these issues,
you know that this ideological control that the left has
gotten on our elites, on our bureaucratic class. It's everywhere,
and it's it's a terrifying phenomenon. And I think the
SPLC is exhibit a of why the American people should

(51:07):
be frustrated about it and should be speaking out against it.

Speaker 1 (51:10):
Tyler O'Neil, managing editor of Daily Signal, also authored look
up these books, Well woke to Puss? Is that is
that what it's called again? The book you just authored, it's.

Speaker 4 (51:20):
The dark money cabal manipulating the federal government.

Speaker 1 (51:22):
Folks. Check it out. Tyler, thank you for joining us
on the program. We appreciate the updu like and update
actually to make sure this bill is beater than Fried Chicken.
I hope it dies in that Senate committee. Thank you
for joining us on the program. Folks. We're going coming
to a break. When we come back, we will have
our final segment of the hour. We're going to talk
continue to talk about this issue and many more. You're
listening to Talk Radio one oh five nine can Arrests.
What a sobering interview we had just now about the

(51:45):
state of affairs in Colorado, and really, I think parent
parental rights are being assaulted. They're at risk with the
bill that's going on there. But we're not done. When
we come back from the break, we're going to have
another issue that's about protecting kids and what the less
trying to do.

Speaker 2 (52:01):
Yeah, there was one point that we did not have
time to make in that last interview, and I think
it's a big deal when you brought up this about
the reference to the ku Klux Klan. The thing that
was said by this legislator was that when she was
asked a question about if parental groups were a part
of forming that bill, and she said, if anybody who

(52:21):
was not in the lgbt parental group place, you know
the area. And her response was, well, know, like, would
you invite the ku Klux Klan to legislation to talk
about legislation dealing with civil rights? So this is crazy.
She only invited people who are LGBTQ activists to discuss
that bill, and we have it not only from people

(52:42):
who we elect, but from people who are employed by
the state. And we'll see more of that in that
next story that we're going to cover.

Speaker 1 (52:48):
So folks, hang on over the break because we're going
to shift to the state of Washington and a story
about a counselor who was dealing with a child who
was having some gender or not gender, some identific identity
issues and how that counts was trying to help that
child and in what that poor counselor went through, I'm
telling you the left is going after these kids in
a way that I mean. It used to be that

(53:08):
criminals had a code about you don't hurt kids in
jail in prison. The left doesn't have that no longer. Okay, folks,
hang on. When we come back, we're going to talk
more about how we protect our kids from this agenda
on talk radio one oh five nine can arrests. So
last hour we had we had a discussion about Bill
in Colorado that it's the left going after these children,

(53:30):
absolutely going after our parents and their rights on how
they raise their children. Our next guest is here to
talk about maybe have a good story the left's attack
maybe on people trying to help children, and but what
the rest of the story may be. Joining us on
the program, Andrea mu she is managing editor iw Features,
which is the Independent Women's Forum, talking about a story

(53:53):
about a therapist's she's a social worker and she didn't
see herself as a whistle blow or anything. But she
had a child that she's trying to help and she
ran into a brick wall and I think it ended
up in her termination. I think she tried to manage
it and then she ended up in some crazy Washington
State investigation. Joining us Andrea help our listeners make sense

(54:15):
of what happened to this woman, this therapist, and what
did she do about it and what's the status today.

Speaker 8 (54:23):
Well, thank you for having me on, Greg and Carolyn.
Two years ago, Tamra Pitsky, a social worker in Washington State,
had unexpectedly discovered gender ideology. Prior to this time, she
really didn't know much about transgenderism, non binary genders, but

(54:44):
she had a client who came to her identifying as
a wounded mail dog, and she started to question this
with her colleagues, and people did not like that she
was questioning it. She eventually left that job and she
found a new place of employment, but at the same time,

(55:06):
she spoke out to the free press about how she
was concerned with what's going on in the world of therapy. Well,
she was fired from that job and after that she
started her own practice that is gender critical and she
had had a lot of support from people online. However,
her own state essentially retaliated against her. They opened up

(55:29):
an investigation and put her in limbo for almost an
entire year, fearing that she would have her license taken
away from her. But after the year, they quietly dropped
on all of the investigations.

Speaker 1 (55:43):
Can I clarify just one second for our listeners. Would
you say that she had questions? So she had a
young person that came to her identifying as a wounded
mail dog. And when you say questioning, it was that
she was not assuming that her patient was a wounded
male dog. Was at the questioning that she was doing correct.

Speaker 8 (56:03):
She was wondering, you know, why are other people unquestioningly
affirming clients' delusions? And her colleagues actually came back and
told her, well, you know, if these people know who
they are, then that's fantastic.

Speaker 2 (56:17):
Yeah, we have entered. Well I think we're exiting, I
hope exiting this state of lunacy that we've been in
for the last few years. I have a question for
you about this investigation though, because so the investigation by
the state was quietly dropped. Is what your article says,
I what information has TAMRA received with regard to this investigation,

(56:42):
and does she have concerns that if the winds shift again,
they might just pick it up, Like where does she
sit with the state right now.

Speaker 8 (56:52):
Well, when she was notified of the investigation, they really
didn't give her much information. But it also came at
the time that she received decease and desist from her
former employer, Multi Care. They wanted her to provide documentation.
They accused her of sharing private information about her patients

(57:14):
with the media. However, she didn't do any of that.
She's always been very careful about what she said about
clients because she understands, you know, basic medical ethics. So
she and her lawyer had sent them a full response
and that's when they left her in limbo, not really
understanding if she was about to lose her career or

(57:36):
her license. However, you know, they've closed the reports. They
didn't actually undergo an investigation or provide any disciplinary action.
They said there was no violation of the law, which
is an absolute win for those of us who are
critical of gender ideology.

Speaker 1 (57:54):
So, Andrea the Mike, my questions along lines kind of
what Carolyn said, So what the status today, because I
think that them trying to stop her from having any employment.
And I know she didn't want to be a whistleblower
and she wasn't looking to be a hero. But I
think that this is one again, one of the eighty
percent to twenty percent issues. I don't think this falls

(58:15):
on political lines. I think parents or people are going
to hear this story and naturally gravitate to this therapist approach,
and so I think that it's a twenty percent issue
of those that would go after her. Is there something
because we wanted to know this in Colorado? Is there
a groundswell? Are there parents? Are there people that see
that she what she went through is wrong and they

(58:36):
want her to be someone that is a leader and
maybe a voice in helping kids, children that are going
through a difficult time get the kind of therapy or
the help they need.

Speaker 4 (58:46):
Right.

Speaker 1 (58:46):
Is her stock rising? Tell me it is.

Speaker 8 (58:49):
You've heard a lot of positive feedback about her story
and particularly of gender critical therapy. Pittski is still working today,
and she's working with a group an organization as well
called Therapy First, which is a whole coalition of other
gender critical therapists, Which is just prove to me that

(59:11):
you know, there is a market for reality based medicine.
And it's not something that is unpopular with the left.
It is just unpopular with a small segment of the left,
and those are the people that are making the decisions
in states like Washington or my own state in California

(59:32):
that are absolutely captured by gender ideology.

Speaker 5 (59:36):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (59:36):
So the thing that really concerns me is I think,
you know, we've been talking on the show today that
Trump mentioned yesterday that his first hundred days has been
a revolution of common sense. That's exactly what this is, right,
So many discussions that we are having now and policy
changes that are being made as a result of his
leadership are bringing us back to a place of common sense.

(59:59):
But I I really have concerns about how seemingly quickly
and easily we slipped into a place where government would
persecute and in some cases even prosecute people for their
beliefs around really wacky ideologies like this.

Speaker 9 (01:00:19):
So what.

Speaker 2 (01:00:22):
Do you see our steps that we ought to be
taking in order to kind of build a hedge around
that threat in the future.

Speaker 8 (01:00:32):
We need to focus on education. We need to make
sure that the American youth are being educated in common
sense and biological truth. Need to get the divisive ideology
out of curricula that is taking away from things like
math and reading. We know that in certain places test

(01:00:53):
scores are going down, performance is going down in schools,
and the people that we are raising today are going
to be the ones leading our country in the future.
And you know, we need to counter mass indoctrination. It's
going to take a lot of people like tam Rapitsky.
It's going to take the d transitioners that we speak

(01:01:13):
to and feature at IW features in our documentary series
Identity Crisis, and the mothers that are coming forward now
who regret that they allowed their children to undergo surgeries
and hormonal therapies, and especially the lawsuits that are coming forward.
There's going to be a lot of progress, and the

(01:01:34):
Trump administration is setting the stage for us to be
able to make that progress by changing the narrative that
we had been receiving over the past four years.

Speaker 1 (01:01:45):
Andrea, I'm sorry, Andrea mu thank you so much for
joining us. I think your case. I think what you're
doing right now bringing attention to this issue is so critical.
I think we have an emerging generation, a sad situation
coming that's we're going to feel more and more as
years go on of what has happened already. But thankfully
for reporting like yours and the work of Tamra. I

(01:02:06):
think that I think we're on the right side. I
think the pendulum swinging our way. So thank you for
joining us on the program today.

Speaker 8 (01:02:12):
Thank you for having me, Dray, and thank you Carolyn.

Speaker 14 (01:02:15):
Thank you.

Speaker 1 (01:02:16):
That is on Andrea, you I think I said, I
think I called her Andrea.

Speaker 2 (01:02:20):
I think most of the time you said it right, Yeah,
you did well.

Speaker 1 (01:02:24):
Can I make I'm glad she did this story because
I just think it's so sad that that therapist went
you know, went through that one.

Speaker 2 (01:02:30):
Went through this. She was a mother raising three young children,
her job was threatened. This investigation. Well it sounds like
the investigation didn't occur, but she was notified of one,
and she didn't know how this was going to happen.
And here's what just kills me. You know how we
talked yesterday about some members of Congress calling judges breaking

(01:02:51):
the law in order to subvert justice to assist illegal aliens.
That was called by was it David Brooks who said
that heroic, heroic, heroic, you want to talk about heroes, right,
this Tamar of Pitske standing up against an entire state
apparatus and these the industry that would not even allow

(01:03:15):
her to ask questions as she was seeking the best
care for her patients.

Speaker 1 (01:03:20):
As she was trained. By the way, there's nothing in
her training. If you read the article where silence is
what you engage in, hostility is what you can engage in.
Everything is about you. They get together and they really
free flow in terms of their discussions and trying to
understand things. This is something you weren't allowed to speak
out loud about. This is something that and they point out,

(01:03:41):
you're either trying to hide or protect something if you
can't have an open discussion. And that's what she went through.
And that's what I imagine. This isn't the only case.
This is one we're talking about now. Okay, when we
come back from the break, we're going to get more
into these issues a lot more. I've got some clips.
I got a great clip from the from the from
Trump's cabinet meeting that I just can't let alone and
I have to be these cabinet meetings are going to

(01:04:01):
become epic. They are epic. They're going to continue to
be and we're going to always let you hear like
you're a fly on the wall, some of the great
things that are said in meetings like that. So hang
on over the break, we have a lot more to
share here on Utah's Talk Radio one oh five nine Canteras.
I'm your host, Citizen Greg Hughes and joining.

Speaker 2 (01:04:19):
Me Carolyn Fippin.

Speaker 1 (01:04:21):
She is our guest host because Rod is on vacation.
Rod is just you know, toes in the sand. He's
you know, he'd cruel. He sent me some picks. Is
that he is an Actually I can confirm, folks, he
is in paradise. It's up to him where he wants
to share where he's been when he gets back. If
he gets back, yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:04:37):
He might not come home. He may be enjoying himself
that much.

Speaker 4 (01:04:41):
You know.

Speaker 1 (01:04:41):
I golfed with Rod before he left for his vacation.
We like the golf. I'm not any good, but I
like the golf anyway. He's golfing out there too, So
I don't know. I'm hoping that he doesn't decide to
just you know, hang it up and go.

Speaker 2 (01:04:53):
So you're hoping that you don't get stuck with me.
I think that's what you're saying. I'm just kidding. I'm
just I'm here for five days.

Speaker 1 (01:05:02):
But you know what it's been. We're having a great time.
We honored some good things here and but no, I
want to see this him. I can't teach you about
being old. I can't. I can tease him all the
time about being old. It's so much fun. Well, I'm
in my grade right, Yes, we're the same. You're younger
than me by a lot, by millions of years. That's
what I've been taught to say. I would never say
anything otherwise, of course, duh. So we've been talking about

(01:05:25):
this revolution of common sense. I got to play a
clip for you folks at this great Cabinet meeting, Treasury
Secretary of a sense giving the President an update on
a upgrade. There was a software upgrade that had to happen,
so it got a young gun from Doge to come
and just kind of see what its status was and

(01:05:45):
how it's going. Let's listen to the Treasury Secretary give
his update to the president.

Speaker 8 (01:05:53):
The young man sent over by Doge.

Speaker 13 (01:05:55):
The it update that began in nineteen ninety, which is which.

Speaker 11 (01:06:01):
Was begun before he was born, is going to be
finished during your term, so trade you couldn't make it up.

Speaker 1 (01:06:11):
So an it update that started in the year nineteen
ninety ninety, and that would be prior to the it
young gun that's going to get it all finished for
the present in his term. He was not even born
when this this upgrade or was started.

Speaker 2 (01:06:27):
Here's the thing too, I watched an interview a while
back where they talked about this, and they said that
this upgrade was supposed to take five years, and every
year since they've been saying they're five years off. It
is billions of dollars over budget, and like, thirty what
year are we Yeah, thirty years late.

Speaker 1 (01:06:50):
So I guess we could say, if we are in
a revolution of common sense, it would be common sense
that if you're gonna have an upgrade, it takes less
than thirty five years to complete. Yeah, yeah, you would
think is that common sense to say that thirty It
doesn't take thirty five years to upgrade something.

Speaker 2 (01:07:04):
It could have something to do with the fact that
they are so slow and technology is moving at a
very quick pace. You know, maybe let's give them the
benefit of the doubt.

Speaker 1 (01:07:14):
So in that vein, let's stay at the Cabinet meeting,
and let's go back to Secretary of State Marco Rubio,
who has a funny comment about Health and Human Services
Secretary rfk Junior, but also talks about kind of what
we're talking about. What's the pace that's expected out of
this out of this administration to.

Speaker 13 (01:07:35):
Some at some level, and because of Secretary Kennedy, I'm
afraid to eat anything so in front of its rolls
are okay in moderation. But it's a great team. And
here's the second And I tell us to people all
the time, this is incredibly rewarding service. And you hear

(01:07:55):
it in everyone's voices. Traditionally in the past, and it's
one of the problems we got in as a country
as presidents would say, Okay, let's go do something, and
then they would have to do a study, and then
a study on the study, and then a long internal
deliberative process and by the time you got to it, it
was too late or somebody had forgotten it. In this administration,
it's moving, you know the direction, because you know why
you were elected.

Speaker 1 (01:08:16):
Does that sound like a nineteen ninety upgrade software upgrade
that has a study on top of a study on
top of a study, or they just keep spending money
and nothing ever happens, and then the president moves on,
or they forget it. Somebody forgets about it, I think
without intending to do that. The Secretary of State Mark
Rubio described the galacial pace of government. It does nothing.

(01:08:38):
And to see the kind of speed and to see
the common sense inserted, and by common sense what I
mean is timely, expeditiously. I mean you can't. I mean,
it's a big you know, government is already too big.
But if you want to see some profound change, if
you need to course correct, and we absolutely do, you
can't take generations for that course correction to happen. No

(01:09:00):
between wall Street's twenty minutes time horizon, which is unreasonable,
or his critics one week end of business day of
the last day of the week, you know timeline where
they declare it a failure if it hasn't happened in
five days. But somewhere between there and you know, three
presidents from now, Yeah, something happening, I think is I
think his his pace has been one of change common sense,

(01:09:24):
which you can argue is real change.

Speaker 2 (01:09:26):
Right, And here's the thing, like, none of us want
government moving too quickly. Right, there's a process put in
place when it comes to the legislative process, changing laws,
you know, debating and then of course voting and being
held to account. But we have at this point, especially

(01:09:47):
at the federal level, a Congress that basically is inapt.

Speaker 5 (01:09:52):
Right.

Speaker 2 (01:09:52):
It's been years since we've had a budget passed. There
isn't any of the debating, There isn't any of the
the real contemplation that we expect out of people we elect.
So you can't even use that as an excuse.

Speaker 1 (01:10:07):
You can't, and I'm going to tell you that is
the Democrats keep pursuing the twenty percent side of the
eighty twenty issues. You're gonna see this party, the Republican Party,
be the party of common sense as revolution of common sense,
and it's going to be a party of addition. And
I predict that the Democrats will continue to be a
party of subtraction. Got a great well. When we come
back from this break, we're going to talk to Ron
from Georgia. We're not gonna talk to him. We're gonna

(01:10:28):
play a clip of Run from Georgia, who did not
vote for Prisident Trump but has some opinions, right, now
about maybe he should have or we'll find out. We'll
find out what Ron had to say in Georgia when
we come back after the break. So you want to
hang on. You're listening to Utah's talk radio one O
five nine can arrests. So far, so good, right, Yeah,
it's been great.

Speaker 2 (01:10:46):
Uh huh.

Speaker 1 (01:10:47):
It's like a gatling gun of facts truth. We just
throw the truth out there. We just you know, we
do a lot of you know, it's all fast paced, Carol.
I don't know if you can tell.

Speaker 2 (01:10:55):
I don't know if you noticed, is I served with you.
I didn't serve with you. I worked for you when
you were speaker. And let me tell you, I remember
like the last day of the legislative session every year.
I know, fast paced, my friends.

Speaker 1 (01:11:09):
It's actually hush my mouth. You sure do you do
remember all that? And I thought we made a great team,
and I think it was good. It was a good time.
We take good things. Okay. So we've been talking this whole,
this whole. The theme of this show, probably on this
Wing Woman Wednesday, has been revolution of common sense that
Trump called his first hundred days and his desire moving
forward to just be all about common sense. And we've

(01:11:31):
we've shown you where the left has none of it.
We've shown you where their accusations only apply to Trump
but not to Schumer. When you talk about polling, we've
talked about what they're doing to children, sadly, and how
they're attacking prontal rights or attacking even those that have
been trained as counselors to help children, and how they've
been the left has tried to stifle them and erase

(01:11:52):
common sense and not allow them to ask questions and
silence them and actually get them fired and even have
state investigations launched on those that don't comply. It's a
scary time out there. Yeah, so we've talked about that.
I've got we're going to talk. I wanted to play
a clip that was on this must have killed Senna
or CBS News to have to play this. They had

(01:12:12):
two individuals that they were interviewing, a male and a
female in Georgia and Ron who's from Georgia. One had
actually voted for Trump in the last election and had
left California for her life because she was living in
a leftist state and she didn't want to live in
the People's Republic of California. Anymore, and she shares that
with the CBS. But then Ron, I had not voted

(01:12:34):
for the president, but he had. He had some interesting
takes just within the first hundred days of that decision
to have not supported the president or vote for the
president in the last election. Let's have a quick listen
to how that interview took place. Is this I think
he's amazing.

Speaker 14 (01:12:51):
Neighbors Catherine Destel and Ron Dundor now bond over there
shared love for Trump. Ron didn't vote for him in
the last election, but now he wishes he had. I've
been very pleasantly surprised with what he's doing with the country.

Speaker 1 (01:13:08):
I think he's got a really good cab in the side.

Speaker 3 (01:13:11):
Being from California and Arizona, I dealt with the immigration
crisis and saw how it affected our daily lives. I
believe he's a man of his word, and I really
like that because I had given up on politics.

Speaker 1 (01:13:29):
So, you know, for the left to hear that that
woman thinks that that Trump is a man of his word,
it must kill them because they've spent ten years trying
to say that he lies, he doesn't tell the truth.

Speaker 2 (01:13:40):
And even worse, when you have this clip even worse
for them, better for us. We have been We've seen
headline after headline I have, anyway in the past few
weeks or months talking about how people regret their vote
for Donald Trump. I don't know a soul who regrets
the vote for Donald Trump. And here you have a
guy who says he didn't vote for him. And again

(01:14:03):
this is not like a friendly news station. No, he
didn't vote for Trump, but he supports him and.

Speaker 1 (01:14:09):
Wishes he had. Yeah, And why he says he trusts him,
And why those two are both saying they do. I
think it's really because of the transparency. First, you've got
Trump having learned from that first set term that he
served where he could really easily be undermined internally by
his own cabinet or by his own appointees, his own
chief counsel, I mean, you name it. Remember his Attorney

(01:14:29):
general recused himself. Sessions recused himself from all the Russia
stuff from day one. There was no His appointed attorney
general was never on the job on the direct attack
of President Trump in his first term. And so I
think he realizes mad dog madis for Secretary of Defense
and all of it. He just he had a bunch

(01:14:49):
of bureaucrats who didn't want to see the budget for
the Department Defense go down at all, so they undermined
the things that he wanted to do. So this time around,
having learned as much as he had, you see a
cabinet and by the way, it's like a record to
get as many of your nominees confirmed by the Senate
without having to redo or resubmit a new name that

(01:15:10):
had not been seen. I think Matt Gates is the
only one that was rejected, and that was early early on.
After that he batted a thousand, which you don't see
often with any president in terms of their getting through it,
you know, through the through the Senate. So I think
that I just think that he has he's so equipped
to move that quickly. And I think the key to

(01:15:31):
this administration is what we've played for you, ladies and
gentlemen on the show of their cabinet meeting. You're hearing
just very genuine, very honest assessments. You're hearing them talk
like they would privately publicly in front of other nations,
in front of businesses, in front of anyone. What they're
saying is very consistent, and I think that you just don't.

(01:15:54):
I don't recall seeing cabinet meetings like this before. I
don't know. I just don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:16:00):
And I don't think we can recall discussions like we've
already talked about this these during this show tonight tonight,
but these discussions being brought to the attention of the
public about things that are being disrupted right now, and
people are realizing that there are changes that do need
to be made and there is a greater I believe,

(01:16:22):
appreciation for his willingness to take these risks and lead.

Speaker 1 (01:16:27):
That's right. Well, if everyone believes that that we were
on an unsustainable trajectory and we have been, then what
does it take. It takes some leadership where you're not
going to be rattled by the media. Is after all
of they can do. We have some stats that show
how much because the media, the public's basically deaf listening
to them, you know, call Trump a Nazi and a

(01:16:49):
fascist and everything that they've said for ten years. So
now they've put their crosshairs and they're aiming at Secretary
of Defense heg Seth Elon Musk, you know, our CA junior.
They're just trying to and they're trying to dismantle or negative,
negative report on them to try and undermine this present.
So we have So that's you heard the common sense

(01:17:09):
Ron coming to his sense of saying, I wish I
had voted for him, But we still have this judiciary,
and we did have an announcement today from the judiciary.
We're going to go over that clip when we come
back from this break, because again it's another law fair,
it's another way to try and stop the president from
doing what the people elected him to do. We're going
to get into that announcement of what that judicial ruling
was and some commentary around it when we come back

(01:17:30):
after this break. You're listening to Utah's talk radio one
oh five nine Cannorus. Feel you've not done this. I
have your dad jar it's not your gig right.

Speaker 2 (01:17:39):
No, I've never I've done a ton of interviews where
I'm being interviewed. Yes, I've never ever done this before.
I've had a great time.

Speaker 1 (01:17:47):
It's been fun, hasn't it.

Speaker 2 (01:17:48):
Yes?

Speaker 1 (01:17:48):
It has. So we're we're winding down, but we never
got to this, and I have to get to this,
and I in you you will know the answer to this.
So we have another judge, a US district judge from California,
of course nominated employed by Biden in California. Now banning
this district judge is banning Border Patrol from arresting any

(01:18:09):
illegal aliens in the United States unless they have a warrant.
Now that is problematic. I'm going to play this real quickly.
This is a Fox News update on this judge. Let's
have a listen, real quick push.

Speaker 15 (01:18:21):
Back against President Trump's immigration crackdown. This comes after dozens
were arrested in January during Border Patrol's Operation Return to Sender,
where agents rounded up people determined to have entered then
who were determined to determined to have entered the country illegally. Yesterday,
California District Judge Jennifer Thurston demanded CBP agents cannot arrest

(01:18:43):
suspected illegal migrants without a warrant or reason to believe
the person is a flight risk before they can get one.

Speaker 1 (01:18:50):
Well, so she's saying they're gonna need a warrant. Do
you need a warrant?

Speaker 5 (01:18:55):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:18:56):
No, Apparently you do not need a warrant. There is
a spacific law eight USC. Thirteen fifty seven which expressly
authorizes Border Patrol to make warrantless arrests for immigration violations.
And this has been going on forever. And I have
a question too. If you need a warrant because you're

(01:19:17):
concerned about the person being a flight risk, you go
and seek the warrant. If they're a flight risk, don't
you think you have a pretty significant chance of them fleeing?

Speaker 1 (01:19:27):
Yes, it clearly creates a loophole. And this is what
these judges are trying to do. They're trying to stop
they are only on the side of these illegal aliens.
They're only on the side of these criminals. This creates
a loophole because if you have to get a warrant
where you don't really need one, this bureaucratic delay allows
them to do what to escape.

Speaker 4 (01:19:46):
Right.

Speaker 1 (01:19:47):
So yeah, it's just I think it's as bad as
the woman who ushered them out the side of the
Wisconsin jailhouse.

Speaker 2 (01:19:54):
Oh, this may be worse because the impact is much broader. Right,
And by the way, does a judge have the ability
to create new law in violation of current law? Like,
I do not think that's their role. Somebody please explain
to me what this separation of powers thing is.

Speaker 1 (01:20:15):
Again, honestly, I don't think there's attorneys out there that,
since she's ruled this way, are just dying to hear
on an appeal, Like, what will be the legal ground
for you to say that they need a warrant when
the law expressly says that they don't. If they know
this person's here illegally, they have probably cause they know
their hero illegally, they don't need a warrant to go

(01:20:36):
get them to get them out. And that's kind of
you think about the practical nature of that, right, I mean,
how many hearings, how many warrants, how many judges would
you need when millions upon millions have been let in
here and you're going to get one because you think
there are a flight risk there by their very nature
is what they are. Okay, So folks, I don't know
how long that's going to last. But remember on his
first one hundred days, he had what two hundred and

(01:20:57):
forty judicial rulings, uh, holding back his ability to do
what he's been elected to do. It looks like that
pace is continuing with the most recent ruling today. But
I gotta imagine the Supreme Court's got to get involved
in this. They got to weigh in and stop this madness,
and district judges shouldn't have the ability to rule for
the entire tha.

Speaker 2 (01:21:17):
No, No, this is outrageous, and I don't think this
is the system any of us want to live under.

Speaker 1 (01:21:23):
No, and again, remember they were so for democracy. Everything
about democracy is their political agenda. Anything that we would
wander as common sense is a threat to democracy. That's
just how they see the world. That's how they do
it exactly. Hey, thanks for being here. Look, we're you're
gonna come back tomorrow.

Speaker 2 (01:21:39):
I'm coming back.

Speaker 1 (01:21:40):
Okay, all right, you heard it, folks, the show continues.
Keep your hands up, keep your chin down, eyes for it,
always answer the bell, and we will see you tomorrow.
Here on the Running Greg Show on Talk radio one
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