The Rod and Greg Show: Conservative Women Scare Dems; Biden's Shadow Presidency

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
We will not be slowed down. We will not be stopped.
Rod can enjoy enjoy his time. He needs to get better.
We miss him. I know you miss him, and but
when he gets back, he'll have a lot to catch
up on because we're going over a lot of things
and today is no different, folks. We've got a powerpack show.
We're gonna have some great interviews today, some that I

(00:21):
when we did our pre show call and Iray put
out some of the opportunities that we have to introduce
or interview some people. I was excited about this show
today because we have joining us Fox News contributor Liz Peak.
I don't know if you remember she's she's a contributor
on our show too. I think she should be first
contributor to the Rod and Greg Show, also a contributor

(00:42):
on Fox News. Liz Peak's going to join us. She's
got a great column that she's put out saying and
making the case that conservative women they're just scaring the
daylights out of the Democrats. Democrats like Hillary Clinton. We're
going to jump into that issue in this hour. We're
gonna speak with Liz Peak and then all also in
the show, we're going to be speaking with Guy Sharaki.

(01:03):
Guy Shiaki is a person from my past. When I
got involved in GOP politics back in nineteen eighty eight
in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. Guy Sheraki was a big deal. He's
running things. He's still in the arena, still working hard.
Wrote a great column today about Marco Rubio specifically and
how he has been the great connector between MAGA make

(01:25):
America great again, people that love Trump, support him his agenda,
but maybe not been involved in politics, and the traditional
conservatives in the Republican Party, and how he has himself
changed about how he's able to draw that strike that
perfect balance and really explain Trump's agenda. President Trump's agenda
so well, and I would concur with that. So we're

(01:45):
going to dive into those issues and really discuss not
only just Secretary of State Mark or Rubio, but what
he's doing and what it means and maybe some of
the cues that are Republican members of Congress and in
the Senate should be taken because they are being such
great success. We're going to go over a lot of
there's still a lot of talk about this book. I

(02:06):
know we've been talking about it for a couple of weeks.
But you know you got this Jake Tapper, he is
on the Humility Tour, and we're going to go over
how humble he is. I don't know if you know
this about Jake Tapper, but you know, writing this book
has been there's been a lot of humility that he
has felt through this exercise and through this exchange and
hopefully in his mind, profiting mightily from it. But he's

(02:28):
got a lot to say about how how it is
he's feeling a lot of humility.

Speaker 2 (02:32):
So we're going to talk about the book.

Speaker 1 (02:33):
We're going to talk about the the uh, just some
of the One of our guests today later in the
program is also going to be we cannot we cannot
take lightly what is revealed in this book, and that
is that the people that were and we played this
clip for you yesterday, the people that were upset about
Donald Trump hated Donald Trump with such a passion. We're

(02:55):
completely willing, by their own admission, to do undemocratic things
to prevent Donald Trump from harming democracy. It sounds outrageous,
it sounds insane, and we're going to talk about that
in the show later on. I do have some clips
I want to play and share with you also on
some of these topics. We're also the Democrats. You know,

(03:18):
I don't know if you feel this way, but I
feel that that party is just in absolute shambles. They
don't know what to do, they don't know they're so confused.
They're going to Al Salvador talking about constituents who actually
aren't their constituents. They're not even they're not legal residents
of America, let alone their congressional district. And they're outside
these Al Salvadorian jails or prisons wanting to talk to
their so called constituents. It's how confused the Democrats have become. Well,

(03:43):
the Democrats in Utah. They're going to have a big
state convention this weekend and their keynote speaker is none
other than Illinois Governor J. D.

Speaker 2 (03:53):
Pritzker.

Speaker 1 (03:53):
And I'm going to go over a little bit of
that because we need to ask, as Utahan's do we
want the JD. Pritzker model of governance? Is that what
we're missing here in Utah is that what we should
be seeing as a leader. And I say that in
air quotes a leader like JB.

Speaker 2 (04:10):
Pritsker. We're going to go over this.

Speaker 1 (04:11):
Uh, this this governor's record in Illinois, and see if
this is what Utah is missing. This, this is the
missing key for the Democrats. It's rally around J. D.
Pritsker and it's all. It's all you know. Aces from there,
we'll go over that. I know I just mentioned this
right now, but I think I'm just I'm in the
mood to play at folks. Let's see, Yeah, we got
some time. I want I want you to hear Jake

(04:34):
Tapper in this little clip because this is this is
what he's doing. He uh, I'll explain after you listen.

Speaker 2 (04:40):
To have a listen.

Speaker 3 (04:41):
I look back at my coverage during the Biden years,
and I did cover some of these issues, but not enough.
I look back on it with humility, and look, knowing
what I know now, obviously I feel tremendous humility about
my coverage. That's correct, I didn't and like I said,
I feel humility about my coverage. But yeah, I mean,

(05:04):
of course I've said I look back at my coverage
with humility. But it's impossible, knowing knowing then what I
know now to not feel humility when I look back
at my coverage.

Speaker 2 (05:15):
There's a lot of regret. There's a lot of humility.

Speaker 3 (05:17):
And looking back on that interview, which I feel tremendous
humility about our reporting suggests that she was correct. So
I feel humility.

Speaker 1 (05:28):
He feels I don't know if you caught this in
those clips, that montage, but he feels humility, humility. It's
a they're talking points. He Ray's right, he was as
we're listening to that, these are just Democrat talking points.
They just hand them out, these memos at the beginning
of the day and they say, use this word a lot, humility, humility, humility.
So there was a an interview with Laura Trump. Uh,

(05:51):
she is that?

Speaker 4 (05:52):
Is that?

Speaker 2 (05:53):
Who it is?

Speaker 1 (05:53):
Is it Laura? I think it's Laura Trump? Yeah, Laura Trump.
She was She was asked about have you ever heard
from this Jake Tapper. I mean, you know, he's it's
such a it's such an egregious thing for him to
write a book about how there was this mental decline
by Biden after he had gone after Laura Trump in
an interview in an exchange where he was just outraged

(06:16):
that she would suggest such a thing as he is
in a mental decline and we're seeing a present that's
not really, he's not doesn't have his wits about him,
who's really in charge. She's asking these questions and Jake
Tapper just takes her to task and accuses her of
just mocking his childhood's stuttering problem, which is a contrived
issue I'd never even heard of before Jake Tapper, you know,

(06:39):
pulled it out of thin air. But you know, Laura
Trump was on Laura Ingram's program and she said that,
did Jake Tapper actually reach out to you at all before,
you know, before his book came out, because that interview
keeps coming up as the hypocrisy of Jake Tapper. And
she said, yeah, he did call me, and he said
that he was the book was going to come out
and that much of what I had said in our

(07:01):
interview turned out to be correct, and when it became public,
he would address it, and he would address that she
was right. Does that strike you as a weird way
of saying I'm sorry. I don't even think it is.
I'm sorry. I don't think he called her to say
you and I want to apologize for the way I
treated you. I want to apologize because you were what

(07:24):
you were saying was right, and I was clearly clearly
in the wrong, and I want to say, Laura, I'm
sorry he didn't say that to her. I don't even
think what he said to her about the book coming
out and he'll be admitting that she's right and he's wrong.
I don't think there was an apology anywhere found in
that communication by Jake Tapper. So as much as it's

(07:46):
all that humility that you're hearing him keep repeating over
and over in every interview he can, he wasn't humble
enough to say he was sorry. Now was He never
did tell laurad Trump, you know what, I'm genuinely sorry
for the way I treated you. You know why I
didn't because he's not sorry. Because these people will admit,
and what they admitted in this book actually shows is

(08:08):
that they will do anything to stop right of center,
Republican conservative, any political agenda policy that they don't agree with.
There's there's really nothing that's going to stop them from
thwarting that and supporting those who whose worldview they subscribe to.
That's just that's just who they are. I mean, they're

(08:30):
not going to change. That's not going to change. This
book isn't. Uh. We've learned from our errors and we're
going to change our ways. It's it's just it's just
going to be more of the more of the same,
that's what we're going to see.

Speaker 2 (08:42):
So look, we're gonna go to a break right now.

Speaker 1 (08:43):
When we come back, I'm going to jump into this
keynote speaker for the Democrats, Governor J. B. Pritzker. It's
going to be such a wonder. I'm sure it's going
to be a great speech. He's he's he's doing a circuit.
This guy wants to run for president. This is one
of his stops. He's been in New Hampshire, he's been
all over. We're gonna dissect a little bit of the
performance of Governor Pritzker when we come back after the break.

Speaker 2 (09:05):
So you don't want to miss it.

Speaker 1 (09:06):
You're listening to the Wingman Wednesday edition of the Rotten
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Ken r s back after the break. So you just
have Goose, you have me on Wingman Wednesday. But I'm
happy to take the helm. I'm happy to be at
this NASA like board. I'm getting to know it's so
much better. Not that it's going to be perfect, but
I know what a lot of these buttons do nowadays.

Speaker 2 (09:27):
It's amazing.

Speaker 1 (09:29):
Anyway, thanks for listening, folks, thanks for joining me on
the program today. We're going to go to you in
the second hour because I've got After we do the
Liz Peak interview, I want to go to the ladies,
the women of our audience, and I have a specific
question for them based on our interview and discussion with
Liz Peak. I have some questions for our female audience,

(09:50):
and I want them to inform the rest of us
what's what. So that's coming up in the five o'clock hour.
But look, let's right now talk about the Utah Democrat
Party's keynote speak for their state convention this weekend. Now,
if you look at the Democrat Party nationally, I see,
I just see a party that's in shambles. They are
sitting in these five star hotels and you know, these

(10:13):
rich elitists and they're sitting around and they're talking about men,
working class adults, you know, young, middle age whatever. Like
they're at a zoo looking at animals. I feel like
it's almost like a Jane Goodall documentary, Like look at them,
look at the primate as it walks across there and
look how they did. It just sounds bizarre to me
that they have to have a twenty million dollar study

(10:36):
to understand guys. And what they're doing is they're not
looking at their policies. They're not saying, do we have
policies that alien eight men? Is that our problem? No,
it's what words can we use? What slogans? Well, how
can we dress? How can we basically trick them into
voting or supporting our party? There's no there's no self

(10:57):
awareness in any of this. It's all about, Uh, it's performative.
It's pageantry. It's not about the policies that they promote.
It's about how do we dress like a like a bro,
how do we talk and speak in ways that the
men will like us? It's that bad. So you've got that,
you've got policies again, So that's the that's the performative side.

(11:19):
They don't They still don't get it that their policies
are so wrong. That's why everybody's retreating that they're a
party of subtraction. But then you get to the Democrats.
Here in Utah, we are Republicans a super majority, and
I would argue, look, I've I served I think some
people are probably more moderate, maybe in a different state
would even think they're a Democrat. But it's hard to
get elected as a Democrat in Utah, so they get

(11:41):
so they run as a Republican. But the Democrats are
looking to party build obviously that's what you're convention's for,
so they picked a I'm surprised that they picked JB. Pritzker,
Governor of Illinois, as their keynote speaker, because if you
look at the record of JB. Pritsker as governor of Illinois,
I don't know what part of this keynote speaker they

(12:01):
want to bring from Illinois to our state here in Utah.
It's not that bad of a state to live in.
You look at tax burd you look at regulatory climate,
where we rank very high on the different people that
measure in grade states in terms of their productivity, their
tax burden, and things like that. On the contrary, Illinois

(12:22):
does not rank very well. Even since JD. Pritzker took office.
This guy has raised taxes or fees forty nine times
since he's taken office. He's raised taxes and some fees
eighty billion dollars or more since he's taken office. Okay,
his proposed budget this year of fifty five billion dollars,
it's sixteen point seven billion dollars more year over year.

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If you want to look at states that have economic growth,
you look at their GDP. There, you know, the gross
state productor gsp I. Guess get growth in state state
gross domestic products, so GDP. They rank forty fourth out
of fifty states. Now they weren't always that bad. They
have really dropped like a rock seven places since he

(13:06):
became the governor. Here's an interesting stat right here, Illinois.
People are running for the hills in Illinois. They're getting
out of that state as fast as they humanly can.
They have the fourth largest population loss of any state
in America. Now fourth isn't the worst. California, New York.
They're worst in terms of how many people are fleeing.

(13:28):
But here's the interesting part.

Speaker 2 (13:30):
You hear JB.

Speaker 1 (13:30):
Prisker Herald, the fact they are a sanctuary state. They
are a sanctuary state. They want all the illegals to
come to their state, and they're not going to work
with Ice, and they're not going to work with this
president his administration to deport and remove those that are
here illegally at all. Well, this might be why they
welcomed two hundred and ninety eight thousand new people immigrants.

(13:54):
Their international immigration efforts have brought in two hundred ninety
eight thousand people while over half a million people from Illinois.
Five hundred and thirty one thousand people from Illinois have
got out the U haul truck and they've gotten out
of that state as fast as they can. So absent
they them being a sanctuary state there, they'd probably be

(14:15):
one of the number one states in terms of the
exodus out of that state. Businesses, people running for their lives,
trying to get out of this their oppressive state. That
sounds like a great keynote speaker to me. Job growth,
it's it's slow. They have at they have what the
seventh highest unemployment rate in the nation. It's gone up

(14:36):
since he's been there. You surprised. Here's the scary thing
about job creation there twenty six thousand, three hundred new
private sector jobs. But just like like a Biden administration,
he's added which, by the way, when you have a
private sector job, what do they do? They drive the economy,
they pay taxes. But he's also created thirty four thousand,
seven hundred government jobs.

Speaker 2 (14:58):
So let's use the math.

Speaker 1 (14:59):
Twenty six thousand private sector jobs, thirty four thousand government jobs.
What are government jobs paid with their taxes?

Speaker 2 (15:06):
Over there?

Speaker 1 (15:07):
This sounds I don't know why he hasn't been running
Utah alone. I don't know why the Democrats don't just
chant Jabi Pritzker all over the place. I think this
guy is the perfect poster child for the Democrats nationally
and apparently here in Utah. They see no daylight between
the national party and the state party here. They love
this guy. The reason Jamie Pritzker would even slum it

(15:28):
and come to a flyover state like Utah. So even
the Democrats in Utah, don't you know, pat yourself on
the back that Jab Pritzker wants to come to your state.
You know, Jamie Pritsker has been to New Hampshire. He's
been on CNN. He goes on CNN a lot. He's
been on the View, Jimmy Kimmel Live. These are all programs.
I'm sure Utahn's love CNN and the View and Jimmy Kimmel.

(15:48):
He's on all this. Newsweek did a big article about him.
All of this is for a prospective run for president
in twenty twenty eight. So he's going to talk in platitudes.
He's going to talk about about emotional things. He's going
to want to, you know, pull on the heartstrings of
the people in Utah. And in that convention. None of

(16:08):
it's going to be specific. None of it's going to
have the kind of policies that he's been advancing in
Illinois that Utahon's would outright reject if they heard, if
they got a whiff of any of it. But he'll
have a lot to say this weekend, and and none
of it, by the way, will be meaningful. None of
it will be real leadership. None of it will be
specific as to how he would do it differently and

(16:28):
better than what we see President Trump doing or what's
happening in our state of Utah compared to the state
of Illinois. But that's the state of the Democrats right now.
They don't know who they are. They just don't know,
and they're so confused they think that that Governor Pritzker
is some big catch for a keynote speaker. So there
you go. The regrets we hear as a Republican, I

(16:50):
think that should be good news. For us that the
you know, we circle the wagons as Republicans, they love
to circle the drain. It looks like to me, that's
what I'm thinking. Okay, when we come back, we're going
to have Liz Peak from Fox News on the program
with us. She had a great column. We're going to
get into it when we get back after the break.
You're listening to Utah's Talk Radio one oh five to nine.

(17:10):
Canterus Liz Peak from Fox News. She's a columnist, she's
a contributor on Fox News, but most importantly she's a
contributor here on the Roden greg Show. Liz, thank you
for joining us. The headline in your column says conservative
women scared Democrats for good reason. Liz, what are those reasons?

Speaker 5 (17:31):
Well, first of all, conservative women are generally speaking, pretty
tough and pretty knowledgeable, which is why they have broken
from the herd, I would say, and willing to make
their case. But what's really frightening for Democrats is since
they have lost traction with black voters and Hispanic voters

(17:53):
and young people, which is sort of three parts of
the four legis tool, if you will, what remains is
liberal white women. That's really the backbone and black women
of the Democratic Party at this point. So if you
have women moving away from Democrats, that is terrifying because

(18:16):
that's kind of their last stronghold. And I think what's
interesting is that the attacks you've seen on GOP women
from Hillary Clinton, but you know, others in the Democratic
Party of late, have really sort of voiced that fear
that they may be losing ground, that that may be

(18:37):
the next group to go elsewhere. And here's something that
I find very interesting. I am happily in touch with
a lot of young families and they are very much
buying into the MAHA message, if you will, not so
much MAGA, but MAHA meaning make America healthy again RFK

(18:59):
Junior's broadside about getting food dyes out of food and
microplastics and all this kind of stuff. I got to
tell you something, young moms are really into this, and
I think they are very approachable on the subject of
just what happened yesterday, the whole issue about vaccines pregnant women.

(19:23):
You know, there are a lot of young people saying, well,
wait a minute, what kind of testing did the COVID
vaccine actually have? How are we sure that babies should
be getting not only that vaccine, but some of the
other ones that RFK Junior has raised questions about, not
Measles moms, the ones that we've all had for decades,

(19:46):
but some of the newer ones, including COVID, which maybe
haven't been tested quite so rigorously. So I do think
there's an opening here for the Propaga party to start
talking to young families. Uh and and then particularly on

(20:06):
this health issue and that you know, that's what women
right now, young women care about.

Speaker 1 (20:11):
You know, I was waiting to ask you about this
part of your column later, but since you brought it up,
it is probably the loudest bell that rang in my
mind when I read your column about young mothers really
gravitating to Robert F. Kennedy Junior's MAHA initiative. We're no
spring chickens. Myself, my wife, I call her Queen Bee.

(20:31):
But I got to tell you, my wife's been listening
to Russia. She listened to the RUSHLINGBA every single day.
She is a consumer of conservative talk radio. She's she's
she was a stay at home mom, incredibly intelligent, street smart,
everything you can imagine. She told me when when John F.
Kennedy Junior was running trying to run as a Democrat
that she was going to support. She sent him money,
Liz out of my out of the huge household. She

(20:54):
was supportive of Robert F. Kennedy, and it was all
about he kept talking about why are our children so
sick in this year? Why are our kids fatter? They're
less healthy? The allergies, all the things that are happening
to children and society. These are questions that resonated so
well with my wife, and I think you're right. I

(21:17):
think you struck on something in terms of this Maha initiative,
and particularly women that are not dumb, and they're not
You're not going to go and tell them something that's
not true. They believe their eyes, they believe what they're seeing.
They're worried about their children. So pointing that out and
thank you for doing it in your article. You contrast
that with at the same time that you had someone

(21:37):
like a voice like Rfkjun You're talking about why is
our nation so sick? Why are kids so sick? Why
did we have so much? You also had at the
same time people that wanted to make abortion the biggest issue,
and they would tell you that if you were worried
about the prices of your groceries. If nine percent inflation
was troubling you, if you were worried about our public safety,

(21:58):
then there was something wrong with you. Is this this
disconnect from female Democrats with I think female voters in America?
Does that? Does that continue? Do the Democrats ever realize
that they went awry? Or are they just doubling down
on some of the same rhetor because that's all I
hear from Hillary.

Speaker 5 (22:16):
Well, I think, uh, you know, I am the last
person that should try and figure out what Democrats are thinking,
because it seems to me that they're really nuts and
they are doubling down and tripling down on policies that
nobody likes. I mean, you know, this whole thing about
standing up for gang members being deported, I mean, that's

(22:38):
just really not.

Speaker 2 (22:39):
A very popular issue.

Speaker 5 (22:41):
Or biological men competing in women's sports. This is an
unbelievably stupid thing for Democrats to pursue. And sometime there's
going to be a Democrat who comes along and says,
wait a minute, this really doesn't make sense. We are
really flying in the face. You know, Gavin Newsom Previn's
Sakes did a turnaround on that issue because he wreckoned
that it was so unpopular. I do think another thing

(23:05):
that could attract I mean, clearly you're right that inflation
last year was the number one issue to.

Speaker 6 (23:12):
Men, women, young, old, you name it.

Speaker 5 (23:14):
Everybody was alarmed that the cost of living was going
up and it was outpacing the wages that they were receiving.
And certainly for women that was just as much of
an issue as it was for men. Another thing that
I think hasn't gotten nearly as much attention, again going
to young women, the housing issue is a big problem.

(23:36):
I mean, housing is more unaffordable than it has ever been.
So if you're getting married and you want to have
kids and start your financial journey with your husband, you know,
guess what they were priced out of the housing market.
And I don't know what's going to fix this. Certainly
lower mortgage rates would be a very big plus. There

(23:58):
doesn't seem seem to be any inclination on the part
of the FED to reduce mortgage interest rates, and then
mortgage rates will follow. But there again, you have an
issue that's really problematical for young people starting out. This
was something we talked about last year a fair amount,
but it really never became a big campaign issue because

(24:19):
it doesn't have There is no simple answer. I can
make suggestions to legislators about easing permits and making it
easier to build, et cetera, et cetera. But the reality
is this is something too that you know people that
they are getting dissatisfied. In California for example, where I'm

(24:39):
sure you're aware of the controversy about how many new
homes of being built in that fire ravaged area around
LA it's really slow. Well why is that? Because that's California,
It's impossible to build, and so you have a constricted
supply of new homes and the house price goes through
the roof. That's part of the p Anyway, I'm not

(25:01):
sure voters are ready to connect those dots, but that too,
is an issue that could be a winning one for Republicans.

Speaker 1 (25:07):
Yes, and I think it's growing. Final question, and I
love this you talk about the women that are maybe
trending more to the right or voting for Trump, they
don't need the safety net of DEI, even if they
have two X chromosomes.

Speaker 2 (25:20):
I love the.

Speaker 1 (25:21):
Comment is DEI and this transgender issue, is that going
to alienate women with the Democrat Party going forward.

Speaker 5 (25:27):
Do you think, well, I think, you know, I think
they're too camps. Some people think that that's really helpful
to women. I've never liked the idea. I believe in meritocracy.
I'd rather think that if I achieve something that I'm
trying to achieve, is because I've done a good job,
not because I'm checking a box. And you know, hopefully

(25:49):
that has I was on Wall Street where believe me,
yes there are DEI practices and hiring, but I but
it's also a culture where if you don't perform, you
don't do well. And I think that was a very
reassuring kind of culture to be in. You know, I
think the transgender thing is different. That just is an

(26:10):
offense to women. And if women liberal women are too
foolish to stand up against it, shame on them because
if they ever had daughters who train and want to
compete in sports and some biological manage just comes on
the field and basically walks away with all the honors, No,
that's just unacceptable to obviously stupid. So I think, look,

(26:36):
you know, I would really like to see more women
begin to question the old thing about you know, what
was what was Trump's line, what have you got to lose?
If you're a woman living in New York and you're California,
are other cities where you're afraid for your personal safety
and your kids aren't getting a good education, and so

(26:57):
you should look at this running those cities and those
and say I want better, I want to change, and
maybe I should talk to you know, I should listen
to the Republicans.

Speaker 2 (27:06):
There you have it.

Speaker 1 (27:07):
Thank you Liz Peak for joining us a frequent contributor
on the Rodd and Greg Show, and I guess Fox
News as well and calumni, thank you for your time
and bringing up this issue.

Speaker 2 (27:17):
Folks.

Speaker 1 (27:18):
I went long on this interview. So I'm going to
go to a break right now and we come back.
I want to talk a little bit about this, and
we're going to go to the calls. I'd like to
hear from our women listeners about what Liz Peak's talking about.
Are conservative women scaring the daylights out of Democrats? And
if so, why We'll get your calls and comments when
we come back. You're listening to Utah's Talk Radio one
five nine Canterus Ladies in the audience, I want to

(27:38):
know if, as Liz Peak has described conservative women scare
Democrats for good reason. One of the things we weren't
able to get through on the in the interview is
that she shared one of these, you know, arrogant New
York Times fashion gurus that had a column and was
answering a question, can I wear a sheath dress without
looking like a maga woman? And she just completely rips

(28:02):
on mag of women. I had to call Queen beer
Texter and say, what's a sheath dress? I don't even
know what a sheath dress is, so she sent me
some pictures of them. They just look at normal dresses
to me, I don't know what the difference is. But
this is why I'm coming to you. Eight eight eight
five seven zero eight zero one zero. I would like
to hear from you. Do you feel because I don't
know if it's just conserved women. I think women are
gravitating to common sense, protecting our kids, protecting our health,

(28:24):
wanting public safety, wanting groceries and not costs an arm
and a leg, be able to pay for rent or
for mortgages. I think all these things are just bringing
people together. With the Trump administration, with Republicans leaving the
Democrats and their elitism behind. But what say you eight
eight eight five seven zero eight zero one zero. I
am only looking for the ladies and our audience, and

(28:46):
I know you're out there.

Speaker 2 (28:47):
I hear you.

Speaker 1 (28:47):
You send us emails and texts. I want to hear
what you think about this movement? Are women women? Generally,
the gender gap is usually in favor of Democrat candidates,
especially for president. That gender gap has shrunk and it
is not what it used to be. And as Liz
Peak has pointed out, there seems to be a movement,

(29:08):
a strong movement towards common sense, towards Donald Trump, and
towards the Republican Party. So I want to know if
you're spotting it, if you're seeing it. I want to
know about the sheath dress. What's up with that? I
don't even know. I don't understand why that's a Republican
thing or that's gear for women that support Trump. This
is all news to me. I don't know anything about it.

(29:29):
I just learned what. I never even heard of a
sheath dress till today. I'm looking at pictures of them
and I just they look like normal dresses. I don't
even know what the point is. So, but if that's
a maga dress. Then I think you're identifying all women
are maga women because I see that dress a lot folks.
All right, your calls comments. When we come back on
the Ron and Greg Show, you're listening to talk radio

(29:51):
one oh five nine knrs. Kind of continuing the conversation
that we were having. We had a great guest, Liz Peek,
a contributor on Fox News, wrote a great column conservative
women's women's scare democrats, Democrats like Hillary Clinton. We spoke

(30:12):
about that with her. I want to go to you
the callers, Uh, you know, the ladies that listen to
the Roden Gregg Show. Uh, do you feel that there's
been a change? Maybe a shift?

Speaker 2 (30:24):
Right?

Speaker 1 (30:25):
The reason this has become topical is that somebody asked
h Hillary Clinton what advice would she give to someone
who'd be the first woman to become president of the
United States, And she immediately became vitriolic about it. She said, well,
first thing, I wouldn't be as a handmaiden to the patriarchy,
which eliminates every woman on the other side of the
aisle she wants to She's basically saying that Democrat women

(30:48):
they're just powerful and they just don't. They don't bow
to these men at all. And the women, Republican women,
they're just handmaidens. They're just weak. They bear children, you know,
they want to they want to serve. I don't know
the time, toxic man, whatever, whatever her point was, do
you subscribe? Do you hear her say that? Do you
think that there's people that buy into that. If they do,

(31:08):
why where do you see things going?

Speaker 7 (31:11):
Uh?

Speaker 2 (31:12):
For women?

Speaker 1 (31:12):
Are they coming to the Republican Party? Do they support Trump?
Do they support make America healthy again? I want to
know these things. And what's up with the sheath dresses?
I mean, they're saying this is a this is Magaware
saying it's some it's like some combination of a cross
between a Fox newscaster and a Miss Universe. So anyway,
I want to go to your so I want to
hear from you. Let's go to a Christa and Draper. Christa,

(31:37):
Welcome to the Rodd and Greg Show. Ope, that's me.
Hold on, Christa, Welcome to the Rod and Greg Show.

Speaker 8 (31:47):
Hi Greg, longtime listener, first time caller, folks.

Speaker 1 (31:54):
I'm just going to let you know this is Queen Bee.
This is Queen Bee calling into the show.

Speaker 2 (31:57):
Thank you.

Speaker 1 (31:58):
Thank you for calling. This is about this segment is
about you. You've been in front of mind as I've
been talking about this issue.

Speaker 2 (32:04):
So what do you got to say?

Speaker 8 (32:05):
Well, I really enjoyed Liz Peak's column. I enjoyed the interview.
And something that has stuck out to me recently as
I've listened to I don't listen to Michelle Obama's podcast,
but I listened to Megan Kelly play clips and talk
about it, and also Hillary Clinton recently. They the difference

(32:27):
between I think, uh Maga women, Maha women, and Democrat
women to me is happiness light, you know, thinking in
the future, you know, rather than you know, all the drudgery.

Speaker 2 (32:46):
Of the past.

Speaker 8 (32:47):
And the way they those women, those two specifically recently
been talking about motherhood. They talk about it in the
most draconian terms. It's drudgery, it's you know, it's it's
just hard, and they speak about it so negatively. And
I always think, what must their daughters, I mean, they
both have daughters. What must their daughters think of what

(33:10):
their view of motherhood and how it affected their life.
And also just you know, they're you know, looking into
the future and what you know, the future holds for women,
and I just think the contrast between two you know,
you look at Magawa and Maha women, they are they're
very you know, they're excited about the future. They want

(33:30):
to build a better world for their kids, and they
you know, they they don't want their children to be sick.
They don't want any children to be sick. And you know,
they're successful, they have children, they love their children. They
never speak about it the way I just think Democrat
women in general just very negative, just gower, very just

(33:51):
you know, I don't know nothing positive coming, not a
positive message coming from them.

Speaker 1 (33:56):
So true, Queenne, thank you for your take, Queen Bee.
That is I hope that people realize now who's in
charge of the Hughes home.

Speaker 2 (34:04):
Thank you, Queen b that So.

Speaker 1 (34:05):
I think she brings up a really good point because
my wife, she listens to a lot of these podcasts.
She listens to, you know, women that are leaders are conserved,
like a Megan Kelly. She'll listen to just the overall narrative.
And I think she's right. I think if you look
at the Democrats, know how, it's a party of angry
women and weak men. As Tucker Carlson once said, I'd

(34:27):
like to hear from more of our audience. Women, if
you've if you feel like that the Democrats don't represent you,
or they used to and they don't anymore, or you're
proud of the life you're living and you think that
it's not a negative or dark existence. I'd love to
hear from you at eight eight eight five seven zero
eight zero one zero is the number to call again.

(34:48):
I go back to what Christal was just saying. They
want to they want to demonize or shame women who
decided they want to be moms or they've tried to.
They want to be optimistic, or they're concerned about the
health of their kids and in this country. And but
none of it's in this accusatory finger wagging, you know,

(35:08):
angry way. It's they want a better future. They're excited
for their children, for for all of us to have
a better future than the ones, uh, than what we've had.

Speaker 2 (35:17):
We all want that.

Speaker 1 (35:17):
I'm living a better life than what my mother, as
a single mom, she lived and she raised me in
and you see that in America. You see that upward mobility,
and you know that's what That's what I hear from
people like Liz Peak in Queen Bee in terms of
where women are going, uh with the party and with
and with the you know what their priorities are like,

(35:39):
you know, even Mark Cuban, I mean, in her article
she also points out, you know, not only do you
have Hillary Clinton just condescending women and saying there will
be no Republican female president that isn't bowing to the patriarchy,
and and you know, just doing it in some weak way.
I guess she never knew who Margaret Thatcher was. Maybe
she never heard of her as a as a leader

(35:59):
of an a nation. But wouldn't call Margaret Thatcher weak
in any way. But Mark Cuban said on the view,
I think it was last year to those loans, he
said that Donald Trump doesn't like to surround himself around
strong and intelligent women. Really have you seen the people
that he puts around him?

Speaker 2 (36:19):
Have you seen?

Speaker 1 (36:21):
You know, even when they said, well, look he doesn't
like Nicki Haley, he can't handle him. Nicki Haley was
in his cabinet. Nicki Haley was a representative of the
UN in his first term. Of course, he brought Nicki
Haley in. He has Susie Wiles now as his chief
of staff. Have you seen Susie Wiles?

Speaker 2 (36:36):
Have you heard?

Speaker 1 (36:37):
Have you seen her by? Do you know anything about
Susie Wills by reputation? She is a phenomenal leader. She
is running that White House, keeping the president humming like
we haven't seen a chief of staff do for the
president in his first term. I think he's doing so
much better now, and I would I would give so
much credit to Susie Wiles on that. You have Kelly
Anne Conway, first female to run a national president campaign, unbelievable,

(37:02):
Pam Bondy Attorney General right now. I would love for
Mark Cuban, I'd love I'd love to see a matchup
between Hillary Clinton and Pam Bondy or Susie Wilds or
any of these women with with Hillary Clinton. See that,
let's have them have it. Let's all eavesdrop on their
conversations or their discussions and see who's going to come

(37:24):
out on top. I put my money on Trump's circle
inner circle of leaders, female leaders, by the way, So
I think I think that that they can keep doing
what they're doing. They can keep trying to tell you
what you see isn't true. Women are weak, that are
that like Trump, you should be embarrassed if you're a
MAGA woman. You know they the way they treated First

(37:46):
Lady Milania, but Trump is just horrific. I mean, you
haven't seen a first lady treated as as poorly as
you've seen First Lady Miloennia Trump treated. And I'm when
I say treated, I'm talking about this elitist regime Media
New York Times. You know that that class, they're the
ones that don't have any uh, They're the ones that
treat women so poorly while they cry about Republicans doing

(38:10):
the same. Let's go to the calls. Let's go to
the to the phones right now. Let's go to Billy
at this ooh, at the Salt Lake City Airport. Billy,
thank you for calling. You're at the airport. You must
be walking. I always complain I airport so long to walk.
Are you okay? Are you winded?

Speaker 9 (38:27):
No, I'm good, I'm good.

Speaker 4 (38:29):
No.

Speaker 9 (38:30):
I was telling him that I'm actually from California.

Speaker 2 (38:33):
Oh.

Speaker 9 (38:34):
And the point I wanted to make is I always
try to I travel a lot, and I talk to
people a lot, and I just want people to know
out there, they always think that we're the minority. You know,
the Maga movement.

Speaker 2 (38:47):
Yes, not true.

Speaker 9 (38:50):
Not true. They try to make us think that, oh,
you know, you're so bad. You know, like two out
of one hundred people think the way the media says,
you know, everybody else. So we have to stay strong
and believe in our country and our everyone. You know,
everybody wants what's good for our country.

Speaker 2 (39:09):
And you say that from California.

Speaker 1 (39:10):
You know, if we live we live here in Utah,
we look at the left coast over there and we
think that there's not a Republican to be found. But Billy,
you're you're here to tell.

Speaker 9 (39:18):
Us, oh, there are lots of us. We can't stand
what do you call them? Newsolini, Yeah, you know that.

Speaker 2 (39:32):
Is great.

Speaker 1 (39:32):
Well, hey, I I appreciate the perspective. I would not
have predicted that from California. I think that's you. You're
in the belly of the beast out there. You keep up,
you keep up the fight. I'm so glad that you
called on and that you're and that you're you're you're
not shying away from any of it, and you're telling
us that we're not in the minority, and our and
women that that support Donald Trump are not in the minority.

Speaker 9 (39:54):
I love Donald Trump. He loves our country and we
need strong people. I pray to keep them safe. Thank
because there's lunatics out there.

Speaker 1 (40:02):
They're sure, Billy, Thank you for your call. Thanks for
she's in commute. I'm glad she's listening to the show.
Very very smart. You know you can tell. That's why
I knew. If we open the phones to you, our
female listeners, we get some great calls. Eight eight eight
five seven zero eight zero one zero is the number
to call. We'll get more of your calls and comments
when we come back from the break. You're listening to

(40:24):
Utah's Talk Radio one oh five nine CANNERUS. We've been
talking about this article by Liz Peek. We interviewed her
in the first hour of the show. Conservative women are
really scaring the Democrats, and for good reason. We've rolled
out a bunch of reasons. We've had some good comments.

Speaker 10 (40:37):
Now.

Speaker 1 (40:37):
I got some grief over the commercial break from some
guys saying I'm being a little sexist by saying I
only want to hear from the female listening audience because
I want their take on what they're seeing as women
with the Democrat Party and with Trump, and how they
feel about all of this. So men, you're welcome to
call in and opine. I'd love it. I'd love to
hear your take as well. But if does call, if

(41:00):
a female caller calls in, you're going on the front
of the line, just gonna know. I'm just going to
lay down the law right now. We're going to hear
from those women that are calling, because I think this
is all about this gender gap and this issue that
we've had where the Democrats felt like they've owned this
demographic female voters. They try to shame women into not
voting for Republicans. That's starting to change. The attitudes are changing.

(41:22):
So let's go to the phones now. If you want
to call, eight eight eight five seven zero eight zero
one zero is the number to call. Let's go to
the phones, and let's go to Maren and Orum. Maren,
thank you for calling and welcome to the Rodden Gregg Show.

Speaker 6 (41:36):
Hi, thanks for so much for hearing me out.

Speaker 1 (41:38):
Yes, I'm looking forward to it. What do you think
about all this? Are the Are the Democrats shaming you
into staying with them as a party.

Speaker 6 (41:48):
No, no they're not. But the little background I grew
up in Northern California in the eighties and I had
the chance to do a kind of a teen study
thing where I came to Washington, d C. And the
big thing, the big push is, oh, Reagan's so awful.

Speaker 9 (42:07):
Look at the debt.

Speaker 6 (42:08):
He's putting us into. And all I've seen since at
the time, I was liberal, and I thought, this is
horrible that Ronald Reagan is putting you know, all the
deficit spending. Well, all I've seen since then is the
Democrats go crazy with it and the Republicans, you know,
they're keeping that they're doing a lot of it too.

Speaker 9 (42:26):
I get that.

Speaker 6 (42:27):
But once I saw that, I was like, this isn't right.
And so I got to college and I actually actually
went from liberal to conservative when I came to college
and came to college in Utah, and of just since
then been small government and a small government freedom. Remember
hearing once someone on the radio saying, why would people

(42:50):
like the Republicans? What did the Republicans ever do for them?
And I realized the difference between a liberal and a
conservative is the liberals want to know that the government
can do for them, and the conservatives are worried about
what the government could do to them.

Speaker 1 (43:05):
Well said, well said, So let me ask you this question. So, yes, yeah,
I'm very curious. So right now in night sign just
right now. It's been happening since about nineteen ninety six,
the gender gap in terms of women have voted for
more Democrat cans for president than men have. But you're
seeing that the Democrat as a party, they're losing the

(43:27):
men as a voting block. They're trying to figure out
how to make that up to the women. Their message is,
you don't want to bow to this toxic masculinity, and
in their verbiage and in their message to women, they're
attacking men.

Speaker 2 (43:41):
Do you find any of that?

Speaker 1 (43:42):
Do you find it in this political world we're in
that men are the enemy when the Democrats are talking,
or when they're trying to appeal to you or make
abortion your number one issue without regard to any other
issue in your life that's supposed to be the number
one issue, without consideration of anything else. Do you find
any of those messages around you in your life as

(44:02):
you since the eighties till now.

Speaker 6 (44:05):
Yeah, I think it's I think it's really societal in
terms of telling women the lie that you will get
your most fulfillment out of your career, and there is
someone who's had a career, a long career, and someone
who has many kids, like there's no career, there's no
career that can match that family, even though they're struggles.

(44:31):
And I've also seen I have been blessed to be
around really good men. Not you know, not every man
is a really good man, but there is there is
safety and sacrifice for the women in their lives when
there's a really good man around. And I also want

(44:55):
to put one plug in for Moms for America. I've
been participating in Moms for America and and you don't
have to be a mom, you'd be a grandma. You
could be someone who wants to be a mom.

Speaker 9 (45:06):
Anybody.

Speaker 6 (45:06):
Men can come to I've had men come to meetings
and just look at Moms from America and find a
chapter to you. And it's great for supporting us in
teaching the next generation.

Speaker 1 (45:17):
I agree, Maren, thank you for the call, and she's right.
So Rod and I when we covered the Republican National
Convention in Milwaukee, there's a big bus. It was Moms
for America and we met some of the people there
that had a great and very strong presence at the
nash Republican National Convention in Milwaukee, and just phenomenal people,

(45:37):
moms that just genuinely care about this country. And you
know we're in the middle of that was back in
July of last year, where the outcome of the election
wasn't known, and boy were they motivated to be in
as Maren mentioned, chapters organizations in every state working very
very hard to for common sense and for things that
protect women, motherhood, all of that. And I think Marin

(46:01):
really framed that, well, we're going to go to a
break right now again. Eight eight eight five seven zero
eight eight eight eight eight five seven zero eight zero
one zero is the number to call if you have
any comments. We can talk about this, We can we
can veer from this if you'd like, if we can
talk about some of the issues. I've got a couple
of clips too, I want to play. I think we

(46:21):
got an endorsement for President Trump from the most unlikely
source you'll ever hear. I have that clip for you
waiting also later in this hour, So lots to go
over still when we get back, So stay tuned. You're
listening to Talk Radio one oh five nine n RS
down time. Look, this just came by the wire just now.

(46:41):
During the commercial break and just boils my blood. I'm
just gonna announce it. The Federal Trade Court as just
announced and in this the glee. This is reported by
AP and Politico and everyone. They're just so excited. A
Federal Trade court on Wednesday has blocked President Trump's Trump
from imposing his tariffs on imports under an emergency powers law.

(47:04):
The ruling from the three Fudge three judge panel came
after lawsuits arguing that Trump has succeeded his authority and
has create unleashed economic chaos. Do you feel chaos? Does
it feel like chaos to you right now? Tariffs must
usually be approved by Trump, but Trump says that he

(47:25):
is the power to act because the country's trade deficits
amount to a national emergency. He imposed tariffs on most
countries in the world at one point, sending markets reeling. Well,
here's what's happened. And the reason why the timing of
this is now is you just had earlier this week,
the European Union announced that because what Trump was willing
to pause the tariffs, the fifty percent tariff on European Union,

(47:48):
that they're coming to the table. They're making a deal.
You've seen Treasury Secretary descent. He has done a phenomenal
job in such a short amount of time, such a
short runway wash continu usually takes years to work these
deals out. He's been putting together deals with countries with
reciprocal tariffs that have been fair, fair to the American people.

(48:10):
It has driven trillions. I thought it was eight trillion.
I hear it's more than eight trillion dollars of five
to six years, eight trillion or more of on shoring
economic activity in this country to avoid tariffs, but also
seeing that we can lower tariffs or have tariffs that
we send things over there, but accessing markets around the
world as American industries should be able to do them

(48:33):
coming in and having barriers that would either be the
same or lowered.

Speaker 2 (48:37):
Together.

Speaker 1 (48:38):
The President has done a great job with this and
it's seeing its success. You've seen the markets that recoiled
it first normalize. You've seen his process of how he's
if you don't want to work together, it's going to
be it's going to be a high tariff. If we
work together, you see those adjustments. Even China has come
to the table in a fair way and we're seeing
their teriffs appropriately. They didn't have any tariffs into this country.

(49:00):
We were buying all of their stuff. They were they
were blocking anything that the United States could ever send
to them. They have three hundred million in their middle
class buying power alone in China, of which we are
in our companies, our manufacturing could never access. Trump has
worked that out because it's working, and only because it's working.
Do the judges now, does this court now intervene and say, well,

(49:24):
this was chaos, This was complete chaos. If you're one
of these countries now and you have this American court
that just stopped the President from forcing you to the
table to actually have a fair trade agreement, what are
you going to do now, Well, you're going to want
to go back to the status quo, the status quo
where we were buying the world's everything and we could
sell nothing to the rest of the world. This was

(49:44):
never free trade under what I thought free trade would be.
This was never fair trade. And the President now I'm worried.
Unless this is appealed quickly, this takes away his negotiating power,
the power that has already borne fruit, the power that
is already seen a much more fair trade agreement with
other countries. Allies as well as those countries like China

(50:07):
that we've been at odds with this. This federal court
has now intervened. This man is not allowed. President Trump
has not been allowed to act as president make the
decisions of presidents. You know, Reagan, he raised tariffs on
steel are in the eighties.

Speaker 2 (50:21):
He did this.

Speaker 1 (50:22):
He did it on motorcycles to protect Harley Davidson when
they were getting undercut and they were sending Japan was
sending my motorcycles in as a loss leader to try
and drive out these American made companies and so that
they can't stay in business. Ronald Reagan responded to that
this president's just not allowed to. Obama deported removed over

(50:43):
three million illegal aliens, criminals without all this so called
due process when they came in illegally, they removed them.
And you know, just they're not These courts are not
going to allow these judges and the Democrats are not
going to allow President Trump to do what he's doing,
what he's been able to do and do effectively. And
it's a bit fresh reading to me to watch this happen. Uh,

(51:03):
let's get I promised you a clip that I wanted
to play for you, and I want you to hear this.
This is I think this is just classic. This is
the most unique endorsement of President Trump you're ever going
to hear, coming from the words of a just released
hostage of Hamas.

Speaker 2 (51:23):
Let's have a listen.

Speaker 4 (51:25):
Very scared of him. Yeah, they wanted two terrorists.

Speaker 10 (51:29):
We're afraid of Trump.

Speaker 2 (51:30):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (51:30):
They wanted Kamala to to be chosen. You talked to
politics with them, yeah, yeah, yeah, they wanted Kamala to
be elected. When Trump came into became president, Yeah, the
way they treated us changed for me personally, this is
what I think.

Speaker 10 (51:50):
Because they anticipated that a deal would come soon.

Speaker 2 (51:53):
Yeah, and that's when I started giving you more.

Speaker 4 (51:55):
Food exactly, more food, treated me better, you know, stopped
caressing me, stop speeding me, speeding on me.

Speaker 2 (52:02):
Did you hear that? Can you believe that?

Speaker 7 (52:05):
Now?

Speaker 1 (52:05):
This is a CNN interview. She's just like, she's just
horrified that he's admitting this, And she says, because there'll
be a deal. No, no, no, you know why they stopped
swearing at him. You want to know why they stopped
spitting on him because they knew they knew a reckoning
was coming. They knew that Donald Trump was not going
to put up with what Hamas is getting away with
with with Biden. He was not going to handle it

(52:28):
the same way that America had handled it up to
that point. And when that's why they wanted and he
said they were Hamas. The terrorists were hoping that Kamaia
Harris would win. And when Donald Trump won, the terrorists
were terrified and they started treating him better. They started
talking to him nicer. They they did not want him

(52:48):
to tell on them. They wanted him to be say, hey,
can you get put a good word in for us
with the big guy?

Speaker 4 (52:54):
Please?

Speaker 2 (52:54):
Would you? Would you be willing to do that?

Speaker 1 (52:56):
Does that not tell you the leadership in the strength
of a Donald Trump versus Biden or these Democrats? Does
it tell you why Democrats can't attract men to their
party anymore? Does it tell you why the Democrats are
the party of subtraction? Literally hamas As terrorists who only
operate in the world of terror are terrified themselves of

(53:18):
Donald Trump. If that doesn't tell you that we got
the right guy for the job, I don't know what will.

Speaker 2 (53:23):
I mean?

Speaker 1 (53:23):
That is an amazing and account and this guy he
has no he's talking to CNN. He has no you know,
dog in the fight. He's just telling you the truth.
When Trump became the president is the way they treated
him completely changed. And it was because they want to
Commoa to win when she didn't. They knew they're in
big trouble. And as you've seen, he's I think this
is the last terror at last hostage released. H They've

(53:46):
they've let all the hostages go. They want to when
they want to work it out. They want to work
something out because they don't want to be on the
wrong side of Trump any more than they already are.

Speaker 2 (53:55):
And there you have it.

Speaker 1 (53:57):
From this tart from this hostages own account, Hamas wants
to be nicer and does not want to feel the
wrath of Donald Trump. That's an endorsement as far as
I'm concerned, whether they meant it to be or not,
that's what it is.

Speaker 2 (54:11):
Okay, we're gonna get back.

Speaker 1 (54:13):
We're gonna come back, and a lot more to explore,
a lot more to discuss when we come back here
on this Wingman Wednesday edition of The Rodd and Greg
Show here on Utah's Talk Radio one oh five nine.
Can Arres I have to fit this in somewhere because
it's just again the lunacy of it all. If there's
one issue that I take exception with with President Trump,
one issue that I have to absolutely disagree with and

(54:36):
without apology, and I you know, I'm not infatuated with Trump.
There's plenty of things. If I don't agree, I'm going
to tell you I don't agree. I never, ever, ever, ever,
ever want Canada to be a state in the United States.

Speaker 2 (54:49):
I don't want them.

Speaker 1 (54:50):
I don't want them. I don't want their two senators.
I don't want their members of the US Congress. I
don't want there. They're crazy, they are crazy. They cannuct
can stay north. I do not want them as a state.
And I don't know why Trump talks about I know,
I think he's just trolling them and just freaking them out.
But I don't agree. And then I see this today
and this just buttresses my position. So King Charles is

(55:14):
going to Canada and he's going to be in their
parliament and he's going to really help, you know, give
him a little shot in the arm that you're in
the you're a country, you're not a state, You're you know,
you're part of our commonwealth or he used to be.
You know, there was a saying that the sun never
set on the British Empire. What that what that meant
was the British call you know, the Commonwealth, Commonwealth states

(55:35):
of of you know, of Great Britain or of the UK.
There is countries that the sun was always shining on globally,
so the sun never set. Well, fast forward to twenty
twenty five and King Charles is in the parliament at
in you know, in Canada, and well, how does he
start his address to UH, to the to the the

(55:57):
legislative branch, this once very proud country, you know again
with its UH, with it's lionhearts and it's you know,
Richard lionheart and all that. He starts with a land acknowledgment.
He wants everyone to know, and he acknowledges that they
they gather on unseeded territory of Native Americans, unseated territory,

(56:20):
that the British they were taking everything. Now this man
is sharing this line. Now here's my problem with it.
If you've been it's it's kind of you know, it's
graduation time. We're all going to graduations, be it you know,
universities or you know, the high schools. But I noticed
in my children's graduation and I went to another graduation ceremony.

(56:41):
It to you, they always do this land acknowledgment thing.
It's the craziest thing I've ever seen because it's kind
of a it's kind of a dig. I find nothing
respectful about it. I find nothing good about it. It
seems to me that it's like, you know what, we
acknowledge that this isn't our land and that we stole
it from you, and you know, we want you to

(57:03):
know we know, but we're not giving it back. We're
not we're not leaving, but we want you to know
that we know we took it from you. There was
a post where someone said that'd be like a burglar
who comes up to you and says, you know, I
took all your stuff while you were gone. But here
it is, I'm not giving it back, but I acknowledge, yeah,
I stole from you. Land acknowledgments to me don't make
any sense at all. It's the weakest thing, and I

(57:27):
think it's so again performative. There's no substance to it.
How you can acknowledge you or on unseated territory and
then move along. Now have your graduation. We're on unseated territory.
Now let's let's let me address your parliament. We're on
unseated territory. Let's have a graduation. What what? Anyway, I
know we have them in America. I know that's not

(57:48):
I know it's not just a Canadian thing. But to
have King Charles go there and give a land acknowledgment,
I mean, come on, they just need to stay Canada.
I'm all for Canada. Stay in Canada. And as far
as the Stanley Cup playoffs go, I hope these I
hope the the the who's the who's the Canadian team
that's left. I'm so happy I forgot Edmonton. Thank you

(58:11):
e Ray, Edmonton Oilers. You know they got McDavid. He's
a good player. They good team, good team. They're in
Western Conference finals last year. I hope Edmonton loses.

Speaker 2 (58:19):
I do.

Speaker 1 (58:20):
I hope that the that the Dallas Stars win that series.
But yeah, I don't.

Speaker 2 (58:24):
I don't. I don't want Canada.

Speaker 1 (58:26):
I don't want Canada win a Stanley Cup and I
certainly don't want Canada to be a state that's not
that's not in the game plan for me. I I
hope that's nothing but a troll. And then when you
hear what King Charles up there talking, I mean, it
just confirms it for me. They can all acknowledge all
day long. They can they can be whatever they want
to be.

Speaker 4 (58:43):
I don't, I don't.

Speaker 2 (58:43):
I just don't get it.

Speaker 1 (58:45):
But we come back, We're gonna speak with a gentleman's
name is Guy Shiraki. He is a political commentator. He
is uh, he's uh what's called a p a Uh,
it's a it's a thing tank. Oh, Commonwealth Foundation, the
Commonwealth Foundation. I happen to know Guy Shaki ran in
with the Republicans in the southwest Pennsylvania area when I

(59:06):
was just a young buck, know some common people. He
is still in the arena after all these years. Has
some great observations about Marco Rubio, Secretary of State. This
is going to be a great discussion. We're going to
dive into that and how Marco Rubio won, you know, senator,
former candidate in twenty sixteen for president, has really become

(59:27):
one of the strongest cabinet members for President Trump and
doing a hard job and doing it well. We're going
to talk to him when we come back after the break.
You're listening to Utah's Talk radio one oh five nine
can arrests. Yeah, No, I'm not gonna rent. I'm just
gonna go straight to the interview. Oh I'm so bugged
by this judge stopping this tariff work that the President's

(59:48):
been doing. But I won't go on that. I'm gonna
go to guy, Guy Sharaki a long time. I've known
him for a long time. Note we have mutual friends.
Guy Sharraki is a senior fellow at the Commonwealth Foundation,
also part of Real Clear Pennsylvania. Guy, welcome to the show.
You've got a great, excellent column called Marco Rubio Gets It. Guy,

(01:00:10):
What is it that Marco Rubio gets.

Speaker 10 (01:00:12):
I think he understands fundamentally that politics has changed in
the communicating his change, and that is you have to
speak forcefully and clearly, and that particularly Republicans. The days
of backing down, apologizing or speaking in sort of obtuscating
words it was ineffective. It was ineffective with dealing with
dictators around the world. It was ineffective in dealing with

(01:00:35):
the legacy media. It's ineffective in dealing with democrats. It's
time to speak clearly and forcefully. Of course facts matter,
of course, logic matters. But at the end of the day,
as he's been doing at the Senate hearing, you speak
confidently and clearly and don't back down in the face
of questions that at times can be off based and annoying,

(01:00:55):
and hold your ground. And he's been doing it very well.
He's been an articulate spokesperson for the United States and
an articulate spokesperson for the Trump president.

Speaker 1 (01:01:05):
You know, you point out that he's not the Marco
Rubio of twenty sixteen when he ran for president, and
admittedly I'm not either, and you point that out as well,
that then all of us the important issues values in
America is we've all changed over time since twenty sixteen
to today. What is it about Mark Rubio twenty sixteen
version that's different than the twenty twenty five Secretary of

(01:01:27):
State Marco Rubio?

Speaker 10 (01:01:31):
Well, I think twofold one is he has fully for
someone who had been a senator and actually before that
had actually been Florida Speaker of the House. He has
done an exceptional job of being a spokesperson for someone else.
And I think he's been he's absorbed that job so
well because I think he understands he's not speaking simply

(01:01:52):
for President Trump. He's speaking on behalf of the United States,
and therefore it's not about simply his personal feelings. He
is expected to be, you know, sort of stiffened and
hardened and speak forcially on beheaf of the United States
government when speaking around the world, and secondly, when speaking

(01:02:12):
in Congress, he is there to be the representative of
the Trump administration. And in many ways, as I write
in my column, the Trump administration, the Trump presidency is
really giving voice to the voice. Look, it's giving voice
to the people who for so long were ignored in
Washington or Hollywood or anywhere else. So what I think
has evolved in Marco Rubio is not simply that he

(01:02:33):
understands that he Secretary of State and not a senator,
but that he understands that on his shoulders represents around
the world the messaging of the United States. And when
sitting in Congress and when senators sort of lecture him
about the behavior of folks that we're deporting because they're criminals,
it's his job to thoughtfully and passionately but fortially push back.

(01:02:56):
He has taken on this role, of this new role
in a way, and his ability to speak with clarity
and forcefulness has been impressive, and I think coming from
someone who was part of Washington, his ability to do
that well and speak to the new Republicans that were
boarded by President Trump and speak their traditional Republicans so

(01:03:17):
effectively is what makes it so noteworthy.

Speaker 1 (01:03:20):
You know, back in twenty sixteen, my cousin in Pittsburgh,
we were talking about this race. This is back when
Marc Rubio was still in the primary. There's a crowded
field and my cousin made the observation that in at
the beer outlet he works at at mcti's on Route eight,
he said that the people that were most excited about
Trump were people that hated politics and politicians with all

(01:03:41):
their heart. They couldn't stand politicians, they don't trust politics,
but they saw something in Donald Trump that they could trust.
And it looks like Marco Rubio is threading that very needle.
He's speaking to the make America great, which might not
have ever identified themselves as Republicans before, but our conservative
are following and tracking and supporting the President's agenda. But

(01:04:01):
also some people that have been Republicans or Conservatives for
quite some time. He's connecting those dots in a way.
I think it's no different the message. But how is
he able to bring along the old school conservative and
maybe the new school uh Donald Trump MAGA supporter.

Speaker 10 (01:04:18):
Sure, I know.

Speaker 7 (01:04:19):
I look.

Speaker 10 (01:04:19):
I think Greg, you hit the nail on the head.
That's what that is what is so impressive. I mean
President Trump has his own speaking style and other members
of the cabinet, but I think the one who embodies married,
you know, marrying the Trump presidency, that message with traditional
Republicans is Ruvio and I think you see it in
his demeanor and his tone. He's doing all the Sunday

(01:04:40):
morning talk shows, but he sits at those Senate hearing
and and rather than like the old days where Republicans
as they sort of sat there like the dignata, the
Senator van Holland, the Senator Sanders, the Senator uh, you know,
Bloom and fall from from Connecticut pontificate. He lets them

(01:05:00):
get their time and then he steps in and he
zings them back. I mean to me, the exchange with
Van Holland, with the Senator from Maryland who literally flew
to El Salvador to meet with this guy that we evicted,
who was a MS thirteen gang member, who had been
who has two protection from reviewsholders from beating his own
American wife. That Rubio called him out on it. And again,

(01:05:23):
I think, with all due respect, I'm not sure eight
eight or nine years ago that Senator Rubio would have
challenged the Senate colleague by saying that the Secretary of
State Rubio not screaming, not losing his temper, not flailing,
but sat there, you know, sort of stiffened up the
shoulders and looked at him and said, I we deported

(01:05:43):
that guy because he's a gang banger. The guy knew
want to al Salvador to have a margarito with we
kicked out of this country. And so I think there
he fits, you know, if you will, in his Brooks
Brother suit, sitting at a Senate table and he and
he delivers that knockout punch without really breaking the sweat.
There's no hysteric, there's no vitriol, there's no exaggeration. But again,

(01:06:08):
that's sort of the marriage of President Trump being sort
of you know, his off handed comments of press conferences.
It's that, but combined with knowing that he's right, and
to your point, Greg, in essence, Rubo is not only
defending the president. When he's in the Senate speaking to
a committee going through hearing, he's knowledge defending, but he's

(01:06:30):
speaking for the rest of us. The rest of us
for years have watched those idiotic comments and this idiotic question,
and for the last months have watched these Democratic congressmen
why to al Salvador, tripping over each other to go
have their picture taken and fighting to go see a
guy that we deported because he is a convicted criminal

(01:06:52):
and probably involved in human trafficking. And there's Rubo, as
I said, sitting at the table, never losing his comp
but developed, but the delivering that knockout blow, the articulates policy,
but does it with a kick. And to me, that's
the best of both worlds. And that's why I think
he sort of speaks to both coalitions. And I think
other members of the Senate, his former colleagues, should be.

Speaker 1 (01:07:13):
Taking note, you know, and you're so exactly, and I
think you're right about pointing out Mark or Rubio, because
he is that blend. Because you remember in twenty sixteen
he was the big rip on him, was he was
too stiff. Every comment was canned. It sounded almost too perfect.
And the way he said it, he has really changed
in terms of his willingness now to kind of engage
and push back. So you see us fighting, and you

(01:07:34):
see we finally see in American people that see that
it's not just a conservative issue or liberal. Our institutions
are being destroyed right before our eyes, and America saw it,
as you point out in your article, before Washington d C.

Speaker 2 (01:07:45):
Saw it.

Speaker 1 (01:07:46):
My question is I think we're winning, and I think
the Democrats are doubling down on dumb as you just
pointed out with all you know, the man from Maryland
and all of that. They got some study trying to
spend twenty million to figure out how to appeal to men.
So I just think they're a party of subtraction. Do
you think you know Trump? President Trump has paved this
way for us to go. You see it's wildly successful.

(01:08:09):
But are we Are you convinced that our Republicans in
Congress are are running with this, Are they taking this lead,
are they seeing this and doing as much as they can,
or are they still kind of worried they're going to
offend the regime? Media and the you know, the ruling class.

Speaker 10 (01:08:25):
Yeah, I don't think it's taken hold yet. And that's
why I point to Rubio because my hope is in
pointing to Rubio that what I'm talking to is not
simply all of us. You know, you had the Trump lawnsign,
but the folks in Washington who may be privately smile
or cheer or fist pump when they hear President Trump
say something. Rubio is the guy now giving cover to

(01:08:47):
that group. Do the guys who've been in the Senate
for ten or fifteen years, the guys who've been in
the men and women's been in Congress. That's why I
point him and say, look, he's the road map. And again, Greg,
I point out, I don't expect I don't expect, you know,
a member of Congress from Utah any more than I
expect a Congress member of Congress in Pennsylvania who it's

(01:09:08):
not their style to stand up tomorrow and scream or
look at a reporter and make a snide comment, because
that's not who they are. I want them to have
the courage to be who they are, but I want
them to have the courage.

Speaker 7 (01:09:20):
To push back.

Speaker 10 (01:09:21):
And that's the the you know, I've seen too many
politicians last five years say, oh, I know what Trump is.
You know, you just curse and make off handed comments
and mock people. That's not what Trump's. Trump's about being Trump,
But most of U, it's about fighting and standing your ground.
So in your own tone, in your own style, and
the issues that matter to you, stand your ground right back. No,

(01:09:42):
it hasn't taken hold yet in Congress, which is why
the big beautiful bill is a little too big and
good looking, not beautiful, because they're not confident yet, right,
They're not. They're not confident to push back yet. And
I think that Rubio is is part of that. I
think JD. Vance does that for a young generation that
maybe feels angry and frustrated that they've been left behind,

(01:10:04):
that they're living with their parents or they're working three jobs.
And I think Vance is a bridge to our younger voters.
I think there's been a few of them that do that.
And look, I think DeSantis has done it so well
in Florida. He has grown the party, grown their population,
grown the economy, and again in his own way. You know,
some said, well he was a little stiffy. Yeah, maybe fine,

(01:10:25):
but you know, in his way. Here's what I know.
The state of Florida is growing in its population, it's
growing its economy, and he took on school choice, tacked cuts,
wrote DEI, there's a way to fight the Democrats on
their issue, and we should be looking to the Desantus,
the JD. Vans, the Marco Ruby is the folks who've
been able to blend that, and I think they're each representative.

(01:10:48):
The Santa shows you how to be a governor. Glenn
Youngton shows you how to be a governor in a
more fulksy way. They are fosts that are leading, that
are taking on the tough issues. And I just think
Rubio is the example for Washington to work. But I
get it, Okay, this is how you know. Yeah, I've
been in Congress by terms and I've always been hesitant
to talk about these things. This is a way I
can do it. It's not to become Donald Trumpets, to become

(01:11:11):
who you are who you are, but not afraid, guys.

Speaker 2 (01:11:18):
Shiraki again, great, great mind. Uh part of that.

Speaker 1 (01:11:23):
He's a fellow at the Commonwealth Foundation and I'm also
part of Real Clear Pennsylvania. Thank you for the interview.
I don't know if you heard it, because it was
the very end, but what he said is that there
is a way, but it's not being democrat like and
that and I think that he articulated that really well.
Thank you for joining us guy on the show. We're
gonna go to a break. When we come back, we're
gonna go back to this story. We have a great author,

(01:11:45):
great columnist. Later in this hour, we're gonna talk about
Biden's shadow presidency. We're going to go back to that
issue because there's I think this is framed very well.
I want you to hear it, so we'll do We're
gonna do that when we come back after the break.
You're listening to Utah's Talk Radio one O five nine
Canteras And I think that right now, as I'm just
watching this, the headlines in the in the regime media

(01:12:06):
is just giddy that this federal court has shut down
Trump's tariff policies.

Speaker 8 (01:12:11):
UH.

Speaker 1 (01:12:11):
This really does obviously changed the negotiation, UH situation and
what they're able to negotiate. And honestly, I hope the
American people understand that that if we don't see fair
trade and we don't see what we were seeing by
way of improvement. You can blame this this court shopping
liberal left judiciary that's doing this with the Democrats to

(01:12:33):
stop the progress. There's no financial chaos going on right now.
Things have stabilized and good work's been done. What I
want to know is when is a judge you're going
to do something about You know, we have a president, okay,
President Biden, who imposed some of the most extreme domestic
policy on us as the American people through his departments
and his agencies and executive orders executives with an auto

(01:12:56):
pen that he's not even in the room when all
this is going on. How come we have come a judge.
There's no I want to see a judge you deal
with this, this, this, this somehow this president was able
to do whatever he wanted, whenever he wanted. He didn't
even have to be in the room to do it.
That was allowed to go on interrupted. And then this
president he's deporting illegal aliens, criminal illegal aliens, but the
courts say no, he's creating strong and fair trade agreements

(01:13:21):
with these other with these countries around the world. Courts say,
oh no, you can't do that as a president. Uh,
but they're just the the dichotomy here. They allow that
President Biden and every other president to do whatever they
wanted and ever say I worked, and now every this
man can't move. President Trump can't move a muscle without
some judge emerging and halting all the good work he's doing.

(01:13:43):
And we know it's good work. We've watched it. We've
seen the border, we've seen it stop without new laws,
as was said, was the excuse we were given. We
saw all this. Uh let me give you, let me
just give you there. There isn't a lot of people.

Speaker 2 (01:13:55):
Stephen A.

Speaker 1 (01:13:56):
Smith is a sports uh you know, commentator. He does
a lot on ESPNB. He's got into politics a little bit.
He's no Trump fan, so you know he's a Democrat,
but he's pretty mad and he's being pretty fair about
the Democrats. And it's this kind of these kind of
stunts that we're living through right now today. You're seeing
this is the kind of stuff that he's talking about.

Speaker 2 (01:14:16):
Stephen A. Smith, let's let's have a listen to this.

Speaker 11 (01:14:19):
It makes Trump look right because that hatred for him,
that led people to compromise their own professional principles just
to ensure that he didn't win the presidency. Well, if
you were willing to do that, then all of a sudden,

(01:14:40):
does it not buffer his arguments about law fair being
exercised against them? Does it not buffer his arguments about.

Speaker 2 (01:14:48):
Fake news, fake news, fake news?

Speaker 11 (01:14:50):
Does it not buffer the credibility that comes to his
arguments that it was a witch hunt. Does it not
in some way buffer the notion that somebody might have
cheated him in twenty twenty.

Speaker 2 (01:15:05):
Yeah, you better believe it.

Speaker 1 (01:15:06):
And so I think every time they think they have
some little win in courts with these liberal judges, when
they able to stop them, when they commit law fair,
when they do these things, the American people are keeping
track of this, I hope very much so that we
see the progress that was made through these terriff agreements
for fair trade, through President Trump's efforts, and then how
that's going to change now that the judges have cut

(01:15:30):
this presidency's, this administration's legs out from under him. I
don't know if this is the end of the story
or if we just have to get through another appeal.
I don't know where that goes, but it is frustrating,
and again would love to see a single day of
accountability for the Biden administration and the stuff that they've
been through or what they did. We come back from
the break, we're going to dive into what they did
and what they were willing to do in the last

(01:15:53):
administration and even in the reelection. When we come back
after the break. You're listening to Utah's Talk Radio one
oh five nine canteress. Joining us on the program right
now is Matt Margolis. He is an author calumnist from
PJ Media. Matt, Welcome to the program. I gotta tell you, Matt,
that you know the cognitive decline in the in the
cover up.

Speaker 2 (01:16:11):
It wasn't a very good cover up.

Speaker 1 (01:16:13):
We all saw it in real time, but you wrote
an article that really I think captures the gravity of this.
What was the worst revelation about this cover up? I
think that you you hit the mark so well.

Speaker 2 (01:16:24):
What is it?

Speaker 8 (01:16:27):
Well?

Speaker 7 (01:16:27):
In simple terms, the Biden's White House aide basically knew
that he would he couldn't hack it in a second term.
And we're planning if he were to win the election
that they would just kind of stick him in the
background and they would just run the show, and occasionally
they would bring him out just to just for a

(01:16:48):
little proof of life, just so that people would be
convinced that he was actually still alive and that's how
they were going to run the country. And it's it's
it's really a shocking revelation because you know, we were
being told by everybody from the White House, from his campaign,
the Democratic Party, this guy was okay, that he was
fit to serve, but they all knew it was a

(01:17:11):
lie and they were trying to pull a fast on
all of us.

Speaker 1 (01:17:14):
You know, it's it is I am just shocked that
that Jake Tapper and uh and uh, who's the other
fellow that was with the axios Alex Thompson. Alex Thompson.
It's shocking how open the Biden administration was in what
they were doing at the time, in that first administration,
what they were willing to do. Uh, if he were

(01:17:34):
to win a second term. This term, uh, pull up bureau.
This is a term that you would use with the
USSR Soviet Union, use it with China, Chinese Communist government.
It was actually a term they used in this first
term with a very limited and small, close knit group
of President Biden's aides, unelected, not approved by a Senate,

(01:17:55):
who were really running the country. Do you think how
bad do you think that was. Let's forget for just
a second, if he had won reelection, how bad was
it in real time with this auto pen and all
the things that he was able to do through his
departments and agencies and executive orders.

Speaker 7 (01:18:11):
Well, you know, I think we're just about to find
out how bad it was. I just wrote an article
today that there's this watchdog group that found that figured
out that there was at least eight different executive orders
that he never spoke about publicly, which kind of gives
previous to the idea that he had no idea about

(01:18:31):
them at all. I think we're going to see more
and more evidence that Joe Biden just had no idea
what was going on as an administration. And this really
connects to this other story because you know, they're talking
about the second term and what they might do, but
they were really already doing it. I mean, it's I
think it's clear to anybody who's paying attention that Joe
Biden wasn't running the show and that they were doing

(01:18:53):
things without his knowledge because they could get away with it,
and for the most part, the media was just turned
turning a blind eye to it. And it's really sad
because you know, those of us in conservative media, we
were talking about it, We were pointing it out almost
every day, and they kept saying, no, this has me
taken out of context, those that these are cheap chief fakes.
And you know, in the end, we are right all

(01:19:14):
along and they're only now just submitting it.

Speaker 1 (01:19:17):
So that we played a clip on the show yesterday
that they were willing saying that, you know, we thought
Trump was such a threat to democracy that we were
willing to do undemocratic things, which is a mind blowing
or at least that's the account that they were that
the authors were sharing with the with Shannon Breem, and
we played the clip. But what does this do? Do
Democrats want to scream democracy, democracy every time they see

(01:19:39):
something that Donald Trump doesn't like?

Speaker 5 (01:19:41):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (01:19:41):
With what we know now and what we're going to learn,
as you point out, is that is that mantra done?

Speaker 2 (01:19:47):
Are we done with it with them?

Speaker 7 (01:19:48):
Could?

Speaker 1 (01:19:48):
Because they've shown they have only care about power, have
a complete disregard for our processes in our democracy. So
will we finally be done hearing this from the democrats? Democracy?

Speaker 7 (01:19:58):
Well really really should be done with it, because you know,
these guys preach so much about democracy and about and
about norms. You know, Donald Trump is the one who's
just breaking all these norms. Yeah, well he wasn't the
one that was running a campaigns and then saying well,
well somebody else is gonna run the country instead. I mean,
come on, I mean this is I mean, you couldn't
get any more undemocratic than than a party that's saying

(01:20:21):
we're gonna we're just gonna run this guy to win
and then just have unelected people aides just running the show.
I mean, this, this, this is absolutely scandalous, and I
would say this is perhaps this is, without a doubt,
the biggest presidential scandal in history. This beats anything. I mean,
you want people talk about Watergate still with with Richard Nixon.

(01:20:44):
This is this goes way beyond Watergate. This this is
absolutely the worst scandal I have ever seen.

Speaker 2 (01:20:51):
So let me ask you this.

Speaker 1 (01:20:52):
They showed signs of having a complete disregard for any
of the norms or for democracy or democratic Republican. They
have not had an open primary since two thousand and eight.
They get this kid, and then if you fast forward
to now, they get this young guy, David Hogg elected,
who's supposed to be young. He's supposed to be bringing
in the young men into the party, or whatever the

(01:21:12):
motive was. They don't like what he's saying. They just
boot him. They say, you know what, we had an
election that actually was flawed, so we're just going to
kick him out. Is this party just moving to this
way where they just want absolute power? They want it
as few people as to have it as possible. They
don't want to have the America and citizens participate in
their process. Has this been a long time coming? If

(01:21:35):
they've been building to this moment where we had basically
a shadow Paula Bureau running the country.

Speaker 7 (01:21:42):
Well, you know, I think the situation tells us that
there's no election that they are too. They are not
willing to rig. They will rig anything to get what
they want, whether it's a presidential election or a party election.
That they all they want is to achieve their own ends.
And they didn't like what David Hogg was saying and
what he was doing, and they just got rid of them.

(01:22:04):
And you know, it's like they'll do it to their
own and they'll do it to their enemies. And these
people are ruthless, and we have to understand that this
is how they play the game. And you know, it's
kind of scary because these are the people that are
so often claiming this moral high ground on democracy, and
yet when it comes down to it, their core values

(01:22:25):
are completely anti democratic.

Speaker 1 (01:22:27):
You know, I think about my orcas is impeached in
the House, first time in Senate history. Unless the person
had passed away that the Senate doesn't take up the hearing.

Speaker 2 (01:22:36):
They just did nothing.

Speaker 1 (01:22:37):
You look at these judges just came out today during
the program that they've shut down Trump's tariffs and his
negotiations by saying that he's not allowed to actually do
this and have the put these tariffs in place or
these negotiations. So you're seeing that these judges are stopping
President Trump. You're seeing that the process didn't work when
it came to impeachment of Biden's cabinet member. Is there

(01:23:01):
any chance that because I agree with you, this is
one of the most scan this has to be one
of the most scandalous, disturbing things we've ever heard in
terms of who is running really running this country, and
who was not, Will there be any real accountability?

Speaker 2 (01:23:15):
In your mind?

Speaker 1 (01:23:15):
Just do you think that we're gonna see something here?
Because it seems like the Democrats are never accountable.

Speaker 7 (01:23:21):
Well, you know, I think the answer to that is
going to come down to the Supreme Court because you
know that President Trump is trying to do his job
and this peace constantly being told no, you can't do that.
And it's these low level district court judges that are
being shopped around by these you know, liberal groups to

(01:23:42):
get the ends that they want. And we can't run
a country like this, you know, regardless of who's empowered,
you can't be expected to have any random judge that's
that's picked, that's picked by some groups to make a
decision that that has such far and wide consequences. And
this is not how the country is meant to be run.

(01:24:03):
And it seems like the only people that ever exploit
this situation are the Democrats and Republicans really don't have
much of a backbone here. And it is a sadly
going to come down to the Supreme Court saying no,
this is not how the country's supposed to run. District
courts are not supposed to be able to make nationwide
injunctions left and right like this. This is not the

(01:24:23):
way that the government was set up, and it's time
to put a stop to it.

Speaker 1 (01:24:27):
Matt Margolis, as usual, thank you very much for your column,
for your commentary.

Speaker 2 (01:24:31):
We appreciate it.

Speaker 1 (01:24:32):
Matt Margolis, PJ Media, Thank you sir for joining us
on the program.

Speaker 7 (01:24:36):
Thanks for having me.

Speaker 2 (01:24:38):
So when we come.

Speaker 1 (01:24:39):
Back, I have a few closing thoughts about this and
just even some comments about this administration. They're showing zero remorse,
as Jake Tapper is talking about today, those that talk
about the things they've done, they don't they don't think
anything they did is wrong at all. We'll talk about
that when we come back. After the break. You're listening
to Utah's Talk Radio one oh five to nine Canteris.

(01:25:00):
You know, we don't slow down. We just keep going.
It's been a great show this Thank you for listening
to the program. If you missed any portion of it,
we have it as a podcast. It's downloaded as a
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you haven't heard it live, you can always go back
and listen to the portions that you've missed.

Speaker 8 (01:25:20):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:25:20):
You know, we just finished an interview, a discussion with
Matt Margolisi with PJ Media, and he is not wrong,
and it is not hyperbole to point out that this
is the most scandalous, at least in modern history, a
moment for the for the presidency, for the for the
executive branch of our federal government, to have a president
that is not running this country, to have it a

(01:25:42):
pull up bureau of five people that included his you know,
his degenerate son, Hunter Biden, and his wife Joe Biden,
and then his close allies. These aren't even these aren't
cabinet members. They kept him away from cabinet members. They
made this auto pen. It is absolutely up in the
air whether he even knew the Paul that were his
signature was attached to it. It's pretty scary when people

(01:26:06):
who history will never know, and they didn't expect a
book like this to out a lot of them, can
make such extreme decisions that would impact so many Americans,
and they would never suffer a legacy issue, a reputational
issue for it, any kind of consequence for what they're doing,
which allows them to be as cavalier and as dangerous

(01:26:27):
as can be. And it was pointed out in the
book that some of the decisions they were making, they
had no area of expertise, They had no touch on
those public policy issues like the departments would otherwise, you know,
whether it's Health and Human Services or Department Defense, whatever
it may be. The decisions about Ukraine were really political
decisions made from a small select group that had no

(01:26:49):
touch on really the America's role in that conflict. And
you certainly didn't see a president who was engaging. As
President Trump is trying to find peace in a ceasefire
and learning along the way as he's trying to deal
with Putin in Russia and Zelensky and Ukraine hasn't been
an easy He inherited that mess, and I think he's
doing as good of a job as anyone could. And

(01:27:11):
then when you contrast that with this little closed group
that we're making these decisions and zero effort by President Biden,
it is scandalous. What's shocking to me is that you
have both Jake Tapper and Alex Thompson, they were being interviewed.
I played a clip from Stephen A. Smith on his show,
and it was really saying that all these things, all

(01:27:34):
the behavior here really bolsters President Trump's argument of fake
news and lawfare and all, just the way he's been
treated by the left and the way the journalists look
the other way through it all. In their interview Jake
Tapper and Alex Thompson with Stephen A. Smith, this is
something that they said, I'm going to read it to you,

(01:27:55):
but and I think it's just disturbing. Jake Tapper says
that there were none, none of their sources who covered
up Biden's decline showed any remorse whatsoever.

Speaker 2 (01:28:09):
Quote.

Speaker 1 (01:28:09):
We never got somebody that said we should have never
done this. I can't believe we did it in retrospect
it was a mistake. They never had anyone say that.
In fact, I think the reason why the book is
so revealing is that these people thought it's fine. We
hate Trump so much. Everything we do is justified. There's
no there's there's nothing that they should stand in our way.

(01:28:30):
And they weren't embarrassed. They weren't They didn't think they
were admitting to anything that was incriminating. They were fine
to explain what they did and why they did it.
And I just hope, I you know, I just see
I see this president he gets you know, he gets
halted by these these federal judges when he's succeeding. He's

(01:28:50):
succeeding on the border. He's succeeding in removals and deportations
of dangerous illegal aliens that are criminals and those are
just illegal. He's successful at it. And what do judges do?
They stop them or do their level best to stop them.
He had this te reciprocal trade tariff agreement, trade agreement

(01:29:11):
where you're you're going to it's a two way street.
You're going to you're going to treat the United States
and it's in it's trade and it's teriffs the same
way you want to be treated. And they we have
seen the UK with a great agreement. We've seen other
countries come online. We're seeing a progress with the European
Union with China. All of that because of this Federal
Court today is now at risk. Because they said no,

(01:29:34):
you don't have to do it, every single one of
these countries will go. Well, then we want back to
our no tariffs or our three percent terriffs, and we're
going to keep you at your one hundred percent tariff
because your own courts now tell you that's what you
have to do. I really hope that we're good enough
and we're paying attention close enough that we can.

Speaker 8 (01:29:50):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:29:50):
The American people are tracking this, and they're watching who's
doing this, who's stopping a president, who's effective, who's working
on behalf of the people like we have seen before, Uh,
and who's trying to stop that. And when you talk
about this big beautiful bill, understand this, it'd be one
of the biggest tax hikes if nothing is done, because
our current tax rate doesn't stay the same, it will

(01:30:12):
go up. It'll be a massive, massive tax increase for everyone,
a trillion dollar tax increase if it were to be
if it were not to be replaced by this big
beautiful bill. Those tax this are tax rates were never
meant to go back up. They were meant to stay permanent.
And Uh, if every Democrat's going to vote to keep
our coke with our taxes hide, they're going to vote

(01:30:32):
against this, which means they are voting to raise your
taxes in historic ways, we better pay attention to it.
I just think these are these are the times we
are in. We are in the event right now in
terms of uh, people that you know, a president and
a and the Republicans that are on our side and
those that are really still trying to keep the deep
state in the swamp alive. Well, it's a continuing story, folks.

(01:30:55):
We're gonna keep talking about it. I want you to,
you know, keep your hands up, chin down, eyes for it.
Answer the bell and we'll talk tomorrow at four pm.
Thanks for joining me.

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