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October 8, 2025 78 mins
4:38 pm: Susie Moore, Deputy Managing Editor for RedState, joins the program to discuss her recent piece about deconstructing the narrative of the resistance judiciary.

6:05 pm: Utah Congressman Burgess Owens joins Rod and Greg for a conversation about the latest on the government shutdown.

6:38 pm: Jason Richwine, Resident Scholar at the Center for Immigration Studies, joins the show to discuss his piece for the New York Post in which he outlines the hidden costs of the Democrat’s benefits for migrants.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
We've got a great show lined up today and we'll
tell you about it here in just a second. But
I want to start off greg. If Donald Trump pulls
off this Ganza seats fire, and it looks like they
are very very close, that is a major achievement for
his administration.

Speaker 2 (00:13):
It will be And you know, because the Democrats only position,
they have no position on any public policy issued their
only position as they opposed Donald Trump. It'll be interesting
to see how they oppose peace in the Middle least.
It'll be an amazing expression that we'll watch play out
in real time. With the regime Democrats, elitist leftist regime media,
they will too.

Speaker 1 (00:33):
Yeah, and thanks for moving very very quickly. As a
matter of fact, the President was holding a roundtable meeting
at the White House today. They were talking about Antifa
and Marco Rubio came into the meeting, handed him a note,
whispered something into his ear, and he basically said, it
looks like we're very very close and he may be
going to the Mid East this weekend to finalize the deal.
That would be absolutely amazing.

Speaker 2 (00:54):
And how time urgent is that. And he has to
come in and tell him why he's having this round
table with these people that have been trying to cover
the Antifa riots and they've been harmed themselves or going
through all that, they've got Cash Betel's FBI director there,
but he whispers to them, I think we're gonna we're
gonna very quick.

Speaker 3 (01:09):
That means that, yeah, that the.

Speaker 2 (01:11):
Actions live and the time is of the essence, which
you know, we we haven't seen really any serious progress
made in that region of the world for a long
long time.

Speaker 1 (01:20):
Do you think he calls air Force one said start
fueling it up?

Speaker 2 (01:22):
Guys may absolutely, Yeah, I think it's I think it's on.
I'm thinking right, it's it's carbon footprint so huge right now?
Is it's just roaring waiting to go.

Speaker 1 (01:32):
Get us ready. Well, we, as Greg mentioned, we've got
a lot to talk about today. We'll talk about how
to deconstruct the resistance judiciary. Donald Trump has been running
into bad judges ever since he's been in office. We'll
talk about that. Congress Congressman Burgess Owens we'll join us
a little bit later on, and we'll talk about the
cost of the benefits that the Democrats are trying to

(01:52):
get for migrants in this country today. So we've got
a lot to get to today, we invite you to
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(02:14):
on our talk back line. All Right, you being a public.

Speaker 3 (02:18):
Figure, yeah, okay, I'm a recovering.

Speaker 1 (02:20):
Recovering public figures. But have you ever done an interview
like the one Katie Porter, the gubernatorial candidate out in California,
did last night? I mean, have you ever walked away
from an interview and say to yourself, well, that was
a bad one.

Speaker 2 (02:34):
Well, I've had I've had frustrating moments in the with interviews,
Absolutely I have. But she is so like she's been
off my radars for some weird reason because there's so
much there's so much out there that she said that
is absolutely insane, It's ridiculously We have some examples of that.
But they are so soft in California, these Democrats, they've
never known a hard day. They are asked a simple
question that this poor journalist is asking every candidate running

(02:58):
for governor of the state of California, and she is
so entitled and so important that she is personally offended
that she would be asked such a question. And it's
not a hard question. I mean, my goodness, the stuff
that used to frustrate me was like the battle axe
being swung at my head. This is actually a softball,
and she can't answer it. Well, she's mad she's even
being asked.

Speaker 1 (03:17):
Yeah, because the simple question was do you need Trump
supporters to win?

Speaker 2 (03:22):
Yes, that's all the questions, folks. Here's why that's important.
They do what they call a jungle primary. There were
the two top vote getters in the primary, if even
if they're of the same party, advanced to the general election,
So you can have two Democrats be in the November race.
So the question that the journalist is asking is if
you alienate forty percent of voters that are that voted

(03:42):
for Trump, they weren't Republicans, but they voted for Trump,
does that make it harder for you competing against the
other Democrats who many of the people that are going
to vote for the Democrat candidates could vote for one
of them or her because she's supporting that let's get
Trump out of here redistrict all the Republicans congressional seats.
There's a ballot measure, she's endorsed it. So it's a

(04:05):
good question to ask those cans for a governor that
by doing that, you alienate any Californian who voted for Trump.
And it's not a small number, not enough to get
a majority. But are you all ready to abandon that
voting block? She is absolutely beside herself that such a
question would be asked.

Speaker 3 (04:19):
She just went off.

Speaker 1 (04:20):
Listen to her response and how she tries to get
out of this.

Speaker 4 (04:23):
I represented Orange County. I represented a purple area. I
have stood on my own two feet and one Republican
votes before. That's not something every candidate and this race
can say. If you're from a deep blue area, if
you're from LA or you're from Oakland, you don't have
an experience.

Speaker 5 (04:37):
Is that you don't need those Trump voters. So you
asked me if I need them to win?

Speaker 4 (04:41):
You don't feel like this is unnecessarily argumentative?

Speaker 3 (04:44):
What is your question?

Speaker 6 (04:45):
The question is the same thing I asked everybody that
this is being called the empowering voters to stop Trump's
power graph. Every other candidate has answered this question. This
is not I said, I support it. So and the
question is what you say to the forty percent of
voters who voted for Trump?

Speaker 4 (05:03):
Oh, I'm happy to say that. It's the do you
need them to win? Part that I don't understand. I'm
happy to answer the question. Answer the questions you haven't written,
and I'll answer.

Speaker 6 (05:10):
And we've also asked the other candidates do you think
you need any of those forty percent of California voters
to win? And you're saying no, you don't.

Speaker 4 (05:16):
No, I'm saying I'm going to try to win every
vote I can. And what I'm saying to you is.

Speaker 6 (05:20):
That, well to those voters, okay, so you I don't
want to keep doing this.

Speaker 3 (05:25):
I'm going to call it.

Speaker 7 (05:26):
Thank you.

Speaker 1 (05:27):
And she walked these storms off. She has one with
What was so difficult about that question?

Speaker 2 (05:33):
No, it's a it's actually a really appropriate question, and
it's actually not even a controversial. It's not even supposed
to raise anyone's ire because it is just campaign elections.

Speaker 3 (05:41):
One on one.

Speaker 2 (05:42):
How in a game of addition where you need the
most votes, how do you appeal to the broadest audience,
and if you're supporting a ballot measure that kicks off
every Republican and redistricts them all out of existence, and
in Congress, that might upset people that vote for Trump.
Are you worried about that she's she? I don't I
honestly wonder how she I don't think she understands a question.

Speaker 3 (06:04):
Well, this is the first time.

Speaker 1 (06:05):
This is not, I should say, the first time she's
kind of gone cocoa for coco puffs or what coke? Yeah,
they I mean there are reports out there. She once
alleged to have dumped steaming mashed potatoes on her then
husband's head that was recorded trying to pull the plug
on the interview. So this isn't the first time she's

(06:25):
acted very irrational, and she said some really bizarre shows.

Speaker 2 (06:28):
She has a sixty five percent turnover in her office,
and anyone that survived or quit her office and ran
for their lives will tell you in their their dieinga
OL Democrats that she is nuts and she's she's combative
and the prima donna, and it's a very hostile work environment.
But for us out here in Utah, this is why
we this is This should scare us that someone like
this could even be a serious candidate for the largest

(06:51):
state in our country at California. Listen to how she
describes of all things pedophilia.

Speaker 3 (06:57):
Yeah, okay, dude, that's the allegation of grumor.

Speaker 4 (07:00):
It is alleging that a person is criminal somehow and
engaged in criminal acts merely because of their identity.

Speaker 8 (07:09):
There's sexual orientation there.

Speaker 3 (07:11):
So if you're a pedophile, you're not You're not criminal?
Is that says groomers?

Speaker 2 (07:15):
Those that target children pedophiles, that is a sexual orientation.
You should not be judging that person on no. I
call that a child predator, a criminal, a degenerator.

Speaker 3 (07:27):
That needs to go to jail.

Speaker 2 (07:29):
She is actually defending, uh, pedophilia as just a sexual preference.
But you know, it gets even crazier than that. Let's
talk about She was asked this question on NBC about
or MSNBC rather about it. This goes back to the
Biden administration when the Dodds the issue, a Supreme Court
issue came out and there Biden was battling that inflation

(07:51):
that he created. So she has asked about which issue
do you think is more important or what's on the
front of everyone's mind. Is it inflation or is it
imported abortion? Listen to her answer.

Speaker 9 (08:03):
How does inflation compare to this newly important in the
sense of the Supreme Court decision pending abortion issue.

Speaker 3 (08:12):
How do those two issues compare?

Speaker 10 (08:15):
Well?

Speaker 4 (08:15):
I don't think they compare. I think they actually reinforce
each other. So the fact that things like inflation can
happen and it can become more expensive to feed your
kids in to fuel your car is exactly why people
need to be able to be in charge of how
many emails they're going to have to feed.

Speaker 1 (08:33):
In other words, they have to be in charge by
being able to abort a boy. If they can't afford
groceries or pay for gas.

Speaker 2 (08:38):
You see inflation in the household income higher, you better
be able to abort more children. I mean, she conflates
the two and does it not accidentally. She's actually doing
it purposefully. So I just think that for her to
be a so called front runner to replace Gavin Newsom,
you have got to.

Speaker 3 (08:56):
Be kiding he is a loon. She's a loon's loon.

Speaker 2 (08:59):
I mean, I I think loans are mad that I'm
comparing her to alone, because crazy people don't want to
have anything to do with her.

Speaker 1 (09:06):
Not that woman, and she is the leading candidate in
the California guber diatorial race. All right, We've got a
lot to get to mar The Rotten Gregg Show coming
your way on This wing Man Wednesday and Talk Radio
one O five to nine. Okay, Annas, We started the
show off a few moments ago talking about Donald Trump
and what he may pull off when it comes to
Gaza and a peace plan in Gaza. He held a

(09:28):
roundtable discussion today on Antifa, and while that meeting was
going on, the Secretary of State walked in to the meeting,
leaned over to him, whispered something in his ear, and
gave him a note. And the note basically said, they
are very very close greg to a agreement on ending
the war going on between Israel and Gosla right now,

(09:49):
and what an achievement that would be if, in fact
that happens. A matter of fact, he indicated after getting
that note. Receiving the note, he basically said, Nah, I
may be headed to the Mid East this weekend.

Speaker 3 (10:00):
Where are these negotiations happening in Egypt?

Speaker 8 (10:01):
Is that right?

Speaker 1 (10:02):
H Yeah, it's a middle ground site. Okay, guitar was involved,
but Egypt is now involved and apparently today Hamas showed
up at the meeting.

Speaker 3 (10:11):
Well that's what I was going to say, is just
to have the sit down.

Speaker 2 (10:13):
Yeah, in Egypt, it's it's really Most people, just even
six months ago would tell you that that is an
impossible scenario to even believe that you would get to
that stage, because first off, Israel is not inclined to
even let Hamas sit at the ped of table, and
there's good reasons why that would be the case, or
they're terrorists. But to get you know, to get complete

(10:35):
control and to get and the madness in Gaza right now,
you've got to get these You've got to get something
hammered out. And I'll tell you what I think. Absent
President Trump's leadership, there is no way on earth but
Benjamin and Yahoo would be even entertaining a discussion. Haas
would not be coming to a third party location to
have a discussion. And ultimately, I think what you're going
to see here is what you said. I think you

(10:56):
can see peace in the Middle East like we've never
seen before. And I think all that stems around economic
opportunity and all these I would call them animals that
are just terrorists, born, born and bred. They just need
to go and disappear. If you're lucky, we're going to
you can go and disappear into the end of the war.

Speaker 3 (11:12):
Would work. Don't come out again.

Speaker 2 (11:13):
We're going to move We're moving forward, and I think
that's the best deal they're going to get.

Speaker 11 (11:17):
Well.

Speaker 1 (11:17):
Part of the deal now, apparently is that Hamas has
agreed or apparently has agreed to releasing all the hostages
in exchange. Israel would release some Palestinians who are currently
held in Israeli jails. That would be part of the exchange.
But there are other issues as well. But for the
president to say I may be heading there this weekend
to sign a deal, wow, he said they're very very

(11:38):
close down. Speaking of the President Donald Trump, a lot
of people are saying, Okay, he's been in office what
ten months now? Yes, ten months for the second time, right.
He promised the American people he do a lot of things,
and I think if you look at the list of
things he's done, he's done, it's pretty impressive, right, it is,
it really is. So how do Americans feel about what

(11:59):
he has done so far? And do they like it
Harry Enton, our good old friend at CNN New pull
out today talking about Trump ratings and what the American
public are saying about him.

Speaker 12 (12:09):
It's Trump doing what he promised in the twenty twenty
four campaign. Yes, fifty two percent, the majority of Americans
say that Donald Trump is doing what he promised, compared
to forty eight percent who said no. So what essentially
is going on here is the voters expected all of
this from Donald Trump. The majority did, and that is
why his favorite ratings simply has not really moved all
that much compared to where it was a year ago.

(12:32):
Trump is basically doing what the American people thought that
he was going to do. Indeed, if you look at
the numbers, Trump has basically the steadiest favbule rating this
much through a presidency of any president on record, and
it's basically where he was a year ago, good enough
to get him reelected.

Speaker 1 (12:49):
What a novel idea, a politician doing exactly what he
told voters he would do if they elected him. It
is what a novel idea.

Speaker 2 (12:55):
And that he's been able to put a team around
him in his administration to actually accomplish it, because as
we've seen the swamp is stubborn. The swamp doesn't want change.
They like to protect the status quo they've been. There
has been mission creep like you can't believe for so
long under our noses, we didn't know anything about it.
And to reverse that in ten months to the degree
he has. It's not all cleaned up, but it is

(13:16):
at least we know how bad it is, more so
than we ever did before. And you're seeing progress made
on that front, which again doesn't happen very often.

Speaker 1 (13:25):
And there's a new Harvest Harris pull out today about
a couple of very important issues. Listen to this, Greg,
seventy one percent of American support using US military to
kill drug traffickers in Latin America. Yeah, and although notheless
they need due process, No, they don't.

Speaker 2 (13:42):
And for those that say, well that might have been
a fisherman, okay, hey stop fishing right now. I don't
think I don't think it's a high. You know, it's
not your highest and best use of your time to
be speeding. If you've seen the speed of those boats,
what are they trying to catch?

Speaker 3 (13:54):
Going there?

Speaker 8 (13:55):
I mean?

Speaker 3 (13:55):
Or where are they going? If they're going to fishing?

Speaker 2 (13:57):
I would get a rowboat and start fishing if that's
what you want to, because if you're doing in a
high powered speedboat, I think you're going to be a memory.
So yeah, I have no sympathy for them.

Speaker 1 (14:09):
We're just talking about the mid eag Seventy five percent
of Americans support Israel over Palestinians. Yeah, there's another issue,
and I love this one. Fifty five percent of Americans
now believe that Democrats Democrats folks are playing games by
keeping the government shut down, and they are that that's
exactly what they're doing.

Speaker 2 (14:27):
We have spent so much time as Republicans frustrated when
we've seen Republicans go with those continuing resolutions that keeps
the status quo, which is the kind of spending that
we can't sustain. All of that going on, This is
a Biden budget. Outside of the big beautiful bill policy
changes that were made in August or in July, this
would be the same exact thing that Democrats have argued

(14:49):
forever should be continued as negotiations go on, and they
have shut them down themselves, And it is a complete
one hundred and eighty degree change in rhetoric or discussion,
which were Republicans are usually on the wrong side of
We're the ones wanting to hold it up because we
can't keep doing it. This is just keep the status
quot tall. We negotiate more further and they can't do it.

(15:10):
And I'm telling you, I did feel like the American
people are understanding that they're shutting down this government. The
Democrats are more so this time than where it's usually
the regime media and the leftists are all blaming Republicans
for it. I think the truth is getting out finally.

Speaker 8 (15:24):
Well.

Speaker 1 (15:24):
What the public needs to understand is what the Republicans
are saying, in all those subsidies on Obamacare before COVID
are not going to be touched. It's what happened afterwards
the enhancement, Like what if you make if you're five
hundred percent above the poverty level, which would put you
at about one hundred and fifty thousand dollars, you'd be
eligible for the benefits. And the Republicans are saying, no,

(15:45):
we aren't going to do that. But that story's got
to be told, so hopefully they'll be able to tell it.
But the American people, I think are starting to see
what the Democrats are doing.

Speaker 3 (15:53):
Yeah, they're only it's always about to spend more.

Speaker 1 (15:55):
Yep, all right, more coming up on the Roddy and
Greg Show, wing Man Wednesday on Talk Radio one five
nine an ars. It's an easy topic to talk about, Greg,
the rogue judges out there across America that are doing
everything they can to stop anything Donald Trump wants to do.

Speaker 3 (16:12):
We get our own version of that here, and yeah,
we do too.

Speaker 2 (16:14):
We got a bit of a rogue judiciary in the
state telling the legislature how to redistrict maps.

Speaker 3 (16:20):
It's just unbelievable to yeah, yeah, Well, how do you
deal with this?

Speaker 1 (16:23):
What's the best way to kind of deconstruct it if
that's at all possible. Joining us on our newsmaker line
to talk about it right now is Susie Moore. Susie
is the deputy managing editor at Red State. Always great
to have Susie on the show. Susie, how are you
welcome to the Rotting Greg Show. Thanks for joining us.

Speaker 5 (16:39):
I'm great, Thanks for having me.

Speaker 3 (16:40):
All Right, how do we do this?

Speaker 1 (16:41):
What do you recommend that we deconstruct the judiciary, the
resistance judiciary?

Speaker 13 (16:47):
Well, obviously, you know, as individuals, we don't necessarily have
the ability to remove judges from the bench that sort
of thing. There are procedures for that, but it's not
an easy thing. But what we can do is point
out when they're reasoning and the things that they're stating
to the world are flawed. And that's what I tried
to do with that article about the open letter that

(17:09):
forty two retired judges wrote basically in response to the
indictment of James Comy.

Speaker 2 (17:16):
So the frustrating part is I think the Supreme Court
has had to step in because some of these rulings
have just been so bizarre. I mean, I don't think
anyone that receive federal funds are required to receive them
without the executive branch wanting to work with them. I
think it's one of the deals you make if you
take federal funds. But judges thought otherwise. I mean, even
the role of the National Guard and our president, some

(17:36):
of these are just there's precedent behind what's going on,
but they don't see that it's the same way. Is
it going to just get worse? I mean, they seem
to be just trying to play a delay game. Is
this judiciary or at least the resistance portion of it.
Are they going to just get worse and try to
keep roadblocking this president.

Speaker 13 (17:55):
So I think we're kind of almost at a tipping point. First,
I just want to point out that the judge that
I wrote that article about or alreadytired judges, so none
of them are still actually making decisions. But that ties
in with so many of the you know, district court
judges and the rulings that we're seeing out of them
in some of the appellate courts. I did about a
week or two ago, I did basically a scorecard in

(18:15):
terms of the cases that have actually made it up
to the Supreme Court already with regard to the Trump administration,
and so far the Trump administration is nineteen and one
in front of the Supreme Court.

Speaker 5 (18:26):
So that tells you now the problem.

Speaker 13 (18:28):
This is why people hate lawyers.

Speaker 5 (18:31):
There's so much process.

Speaker 13 (18:32):
Involved in this, and we're in the middle of the process.
We're not at the beginning. We've actually moved up to
the middle of the process. So I think what we're
going to start seeing before too long is it's starting
to kind of swing back the other way. As the
Supreme Court you know issues it stays and grant search
to take up cases on the merits.

Speaker 5 (18:51):
We're going to start seeing more of that.

Speaker 13 (18:53):
The Court has been very it has not been shy
about letting the lower courts know, hey, you're not staying
in your lane.

Speaker 5 (19:00):
Yeah, and we.

Speaker 13 (19:02):
Just unfortunately it's hard to be patient and let the
process play out. But I have to complement the administration,
whoever is strategizing all of these, you know, how to
defend all these lawsuits, has kind of gamed it out
and recognizes that if they do kind of stay the course,
it's going to pay off in the long run for
the administration. They're going to win the majority of these

(19:23):
cases when all is said and done.

Speaker 1 (19:24):
Susie, how frustrating do you think it is for the
Supreme Court? You mentioned this, you know, the Trump administration
is nineteen and one. I mean, they've just got to
be running around the halls of the Supreme Court. Oh,
we got another one we got to deal with. It's
got to be frustrating for the nation's highest court.

Speaker 5 (19:38):
I would think.

Speaker 8 (19:39):
So.

Speaker 5 (19:39):
I wouldn't you love to be a fly on the
wall there.

Speaker 13 (19:41):
I cannot imagine that there aren't times that they just
like throw their hands up and just wondering.

Speaker 5 (19:46):
Now, of course they disagree.

Speaker 13 (19:47):
I mean a lot of those decisions have been six'
three have been along the ideological. Divide so the liberals
on the court may be cheering it all, on but,
NO i have to feel, that particularly in some of
the cases there's one or well there might.

Speaker 5 (19:59):
Be two or three cases where it's actually.

Speaker 13 (20:01):
Gone back up to them twice already and they have
they had to, say, no we really meant what we
said the first, Time like you need to listen up.
HERE i can only imagine what it's like at the judicial,
conferences because you, know judges all get, together they talk
behind the, scenes they see each other at parties and
other social, events SO i can only imagine what some
of the conversations are.

Speaker 2 (20:20):
Like so so what's interesting is and going back to
this forty two retired judges that condemned the indictment Of
James comy uh IN msnbc, today they had a reporter
outside the courtroom and they, said what is This what
is this case about Against James? Comy and the reporter literally,
said it's hard to, know it's hard to. UNDERSTAND i

(20:43):
think the indictment is about as crystal clear as you.
Get he lied To congress under, oath AND i, mean
and they even say what he did there's you can
take the sentence that he said that and that he's
been indicted. Over but when they when THE msnbc says
it's hard to know what this indictment's, about and and
they're in they're viewing, audience, however small are left to
think that this whole. Thing if you got forty two

(21:04):
retired judges saying there's no merit, here you have a reporter,
saying we don't even understand what the indictment's even. About
how influential is that with The american? PEOPLE i, mean
you have PEOPLE i think that are just flat out
misrepresenting this and lying about the merit of the, case
but or that there is there should be a. Case
is is it? Effective do you think with the with
the general? PUBLIC susi to a certain.

Speaker 13 (21:26):
Extent so obviously there's the tried and, true you, know
the diehards that are going to believe that no matter,
what because The orange man is, bad, Right and then
you've got the persuadable, middle the people that maybe don't
dial in all the, time they don't spend their line their,
lives you, know dialed into the news that sort of,
thing and they may they're just going to see, headlines
they're just going to see. Snippets so that's why you
have an MS nbc shaping things by sort of.

Speaker 5 (21:46):
Going, well, yeah you, know, SHRUG i don't. Know it's
it's a two page.

Speaker 13 (21:49):
Indictment it's spelled out the specific as you pointed out
the specific comment and what it. Is but, oh who.
Knows but what's really maddening to. ME i, mean that's that's.
Media That's i'm used to that these are these are retired,
judges these are experienced, jurists and they're the whole premise
of their letter is that this is somehow a violation

(22:09):
of The First.

Speaker 5 (22:10):
Amendment this has nothing to do with The First.

Speaker 13 (22:14):
Amendment you, know they're trying to intimate that that he's
being prosecuted for being critical of the. President he's being
prosecuted from lying Before, congress and that isn't protected speech and.

Speaker 5 (22:24):
They know, that so they're being deliberately.

Speaker 13 (22:27):
Misleading and to, me as a recovering, attorney it is
just maddening to see.

Speaker 1 (22:32):
That So i'm surrounded by a recovering attorney and a
recovering public FAC i can't win on this. Case, susie
thank you very, much appreciate your.

Speaker 5 (22:43):
Time thank you, guys have a great, evening all.

Speaker 1 (22:46):
Right Susie, moore she has deputy managing editor for a red,
state great website to check it out each and every.
Day talking about the deconstruction of the resistance, judiciary.

Speaker 2 (22:57):
It's a real. Problem and say this is a free.
Speech he's just going after his political. Opponents it's a
lot deeper than. That that's what, you, guys that's. Transference
that's what you did Against President, trump and you created
laws that he somehow violated out of thin. Air this
isn't it's. About it's so easy to see that they.

Speaker 1 (23:13):
Lied more to come on The Rotten Greg show And
Talk radio ONE o five nine k N r S Mark,
zandi who's a bit of a liberal economists, right says
THE us is close to a damaging economic. Contraction and
he said there twenty two states are now in a.
Recession we are not one of.

Speaker 3 (23:32):
Them by the, way we wouldn't be because we don't
spend out of our.

Speaker 1 (23:35):
Minds the states of let's, Say, Arizona, utah And idaho
are considered expansion, states not states in a.

Speaker 2 (23:44):
Recession go look at who controls their legislative branch and executive.
Branch it would Be. No, Actually arizona has A, Democrat
hobbes is their, governor but their legislature is still.

Speaker 3 (23:56):
Conservatives she's kind of goofy oh big.

Speaker 2 (23:58):
Time, yeah but they're, like and that's who writes the,
budgets that's who's controlling the. Game their their Conservative.

Speaker 1 (24:04):
Yeah he predicts. That, uh let's, see it'd Be, Montana,
Wyoming Washington, state And oregon here out west or states
that are already in a.

Speaker 2 (24:12):
Recession, yeah and they Have democrats run on the. Show,
yeah there's a link. THERE i think there's a causality to. It,
YES i, DO i.

Speaker 8 (24:21):
DO i know you.

Speaker 1 (24:22):
Do, Okay halloween is coming. Up guess what the number
one candy is on The halloween take a. Guess thanks
FOR m.

Speaker 3 (24:29):
And M's No pieces Or Reese's paintbar. Cup it is
for two. Years they think it'll be number three this.

Speaker 8 (24:36):
Year.

Speaker 3 (24:36):
AGAIN i like. THOSE i like.

Speaker 1 (24:38):
Cups others Include EMINEM'S i just, Said Hershey's, milk Chocolate, Bars, Snickers, Skittles,
nerds Sour Patch, Kids, twigs Kit, cats And airheads of that.

Speaker 3 (24:49):
GROUP i like THE i like The hershey's bar and
the kit kats of that. GROUP i like all of.
Them kittle sticks in your. Teeth why do you think
we send out grandkids To? Halloween, yeah OH i. DO
i used to raise and then go through the. Bags oh,
yeah that was those were the.

Speaker 8 (25:05):
Days.

Speaker 3 (25:06):
YEAH i like that peanut butter, cout, YEAH m and M's.
Yeah i'm. Good all, Right we've got a lot more
to get.

Speaker 1 (25:15):
To a lot going on in the world, today and
we'll keep you up to date as you work your
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Speaker 3 (25:32):
Get in the. Van, yeah get in the.

Speaker 1 (25:34):
Van ask me the, copperhead ask the, copperhead and let's
get gold and.

Speaker 3 (25:38):
Right that's right.

Speaker 1 (25:39):
NOW a lot of discussion in the. State, now Even
politico picked up on this. Story there's been some national
stories on this On utah's redistricting. Plan Now politico claims
that there are now, two not, one but Two utah congressional.
Districts that may be in play for The democrats in
twenty twenty six thanks to the.

Speaker 2 (26:00):
Plan that's, right AND i this is why when that
thing passed in twenty, eighteen it passed by fifty point
three four percent of the, vote so just. Barely and
that's without an organized campaign against the ballot. Measure there
was no, money there was no campaign against the ballot,
measure and still the people could smell something was. Wrong,
well we don't have to think or guess about or

(26:21):
wonder anymore whether that was, wrong because all that that
whole effort amounted to Was democrats getting an unfair. Advantage
they have thirteen percent registered voters in the, state and
they have now taken two of our four congressional districts
and unfairly made them more competitive for them as a
micro minority. Party you're not changing the legislative districts in

(26:44):
terms of the State senate and The. House they're you,
know sixty three out of seventy Five house seats Are.
Republican where is this disproportionate representations coming Where you're they're
actually gerrymandering are congressional districts with More democrats than they should,
have and they're doing it at like they're saying that
this was done to be. Fair there's nothing fair about.

(27:05):
IT i see four, districts, okay congressional districts that were
drawn as per the State constitution by our legislative. Branch
that a, judge, now we don't even know she's going
to accept the work they. Did she might want to
use The Better boundaries, map.

Speaker 3 (27:17):
Or she could come up with her own. Plans she
and it.

Speaker 2 (27:20):
Is, That and it's again the judiciary was never meant
to draw our maps like, this or even choose which
one she liked the. Most this is all diminishing our
separate and equal powers of the legislative. Branch but what
drives me crazy IS i look at those four districts,
now and you Have Blake moore's district up in the.
North it's now More republican, first and more A. Republican

(27:41):
the district in the south More. Republican Blake moore was
on the board Of Better. Boundaries he comes out today
and says or in The Desert news article, TODAY i
want to thank the legislature for their hard work for
what you, know, Really i'm sure you are because you
just thought yourself a Bigger republican district and you don't,
Anyway and if all the, districts if it would have

(28:02):
been just, desserts it would have been given you were The.
Democrats by the, way The Democrat National committee has announced
that they are going to target these these seats at
least one of the. Two you've Got ben McAdams who's
already declared his candidacy for one of these. Districts they
are just. Chomping The democrats are celebrating and chomping at
the bit to get to. This and this happened because
the judiciary has, absolutely i, think reduced the legislative branch

(28:27):
and has separate and equal. Powers But Blake moore's districts
better off when he was on This Better boundary. Board
and by the, Way Better boundaries has another. Map they're
asking the judge because this isn't good enough for. Them
they actually want to pack all The democrats they possibly
can From Salt Lake, County Salt Lake, city In Park,
city In Summit county into one, indestructible solid blue district

(28:51):
in a state Like utah that's a red. State how
on earth is any of that? Fair how on earth
is any of? That the, people the ballot. Measures the people,
wanted they got sold a bill of goods a B
it was a bill by ballot. Measure it's the same
as if the legislature passes a bill that should be
treated like a law that you can, amend that you can. Change,
now the State Supreme court gave it the effect of

(29:12):
a constitutional amendment that nobody can touch. It you can't touch.
It i'm just, WELL i think it's such a raw.

Speaker 1 (29:18):
Deal well you've got you've got a judge who we
would agree has stuck her nose into an issue that
she has no right getting. Into she has no, right
this is none of her. Business she could have easily
said this is a legislative. Issue the constitution clearly states
that is the legislature that will design these. Districts so

(29:38):
she stuck her nose into an area that she should not.
Have and my question, Is, greig, whoever let's say two
of these four districts become more competitive and you've Got,
democrats maybe A ben, mccadams or not even.

Speaker 2 (29:51):
Competitives you, know tip somemb on the scale For democrats
Or democrats that didn't deserve.

Speaker 1 (29:56):
It Ask ben, McAdam can you will live with a
Modern democratic party, Today, ben BECAUSE i think most people
would look at my accountem, say, yeah it's kind of a.
Moderate yeah he is a he is A. Democrat but, Matter,
ben can you live with what this party is?

Speaker 8 (30:09):
Doing?

Speaker 1 (30:10):
Now can you live WITH? Aoc can you live with
a guy who's going to be the mayor Of New
york here in a few? Weeks can you live with?

Speaker 11 (30:16):
That?

Speaker 1 (30:16):
Ben BECAUSE i just THINK i think The National Democratic,
party where it stands today and where it's, going it's
going to look at This utah, seat if A democrat
picks it, up we'll, go, yeah, Lout, democrat just vote
for us and shut. Up and that's what's going to.
Happen and The democrats in this, state Like Brian king
and others are, going, oh we're going to have a
voice In.

Speaker 3 (30:36):
Washington are you kidding? Me there's no such.

Speaker 2 (30:39):
Thing and let me just tell you what will be
his challenge IF i, MEAN i don't even want to
think like hypothetically he wins that. Seat but why he
was a one term member Of congress was because they
wanted to Impeach. Trump he represents a district In. Utah
this is before redistricting, Anyway this is pre twenty, twenty
he votes to impeach him and he doesn't get. Reelected,

(31:00):
Okay so they demanded fidelity as a, party that every
member of The house vote the way they want them to.
Vote he did, it and he alienated the state and
those that he. Represented do you think that got easier
in the last six, years eight? YEARS i mean it is.
Worse they are absolutely crazier now than they were when
he had a hard time following you, know the sheet

(31:21):
music he was handed By speaker Than Speaker. Pelosi it
is an even harder terrain to navigate for Any republican,
now or any Any Utah Democratic. Republican you can't even
survive in that atmosphere Of democrats IN dc right now
the way they, are and if it's that narrow of a,
majority they're going to need his vote on every stupid
idea and every crazy thing they want to. Do he'll

(31:43):
be a one termer. Again if he could do. IT
i don't think he, will by the, WAY i think
that The republicans will still. Vote you can't reward this
bad behavior that's gone on with this judge and rewriting
our redrawing our districts. Away they do you look at
that map and it breaks my heart to see that
they that this thing has been completely done away with
on the way that The Utah legislature redistricted. This, yeah,

(32:06):
ANYWAY i just it's a it's a, scam and.

Speaker 1 (32:11):
But let me let me really legislate it. All in Some,
utahs they're of the, Mindset greg, that, oh you, know
we do need fair. Representation so maybe we do need
A democrat In congress to fairly represent The democrats in this.
State we think both. Sides there are people out there
who think like, That, greg had they looked at the.
Numbers thirteen, Percent that's WHAT i was just going to.

(32:32):
Say thirteen percent of registered voters in this state Are.
Democrats thirteen, Percent, yeah thirteen. Percent SO i guess we
need to be.

Speaker 2 (32:40):
Fair twenty five percent of our. Representation we get four
seats in the. State we don't have a, lot we're
not a big. State we get four. Seats they're going
to get twenty five when thirteen percent of the registered
voters In utah are Registered democrat and you're going to
give them a twenty five percent of our. Representation just
hand it over to. Them, Hey i'll tell you. This
we still don't know if the judge takes the maps

(33:02):
that they. Did they just put in the stupid prop
and without you, know and it came out the way it.
Did but The Better boundaries has a district that just
packs a solid blue, district and she might pick that.
One she might not even like the ones that have
been done now that have me beside, MYSELF i think
there's such a disgrace and they she.

Speaker 11 (33:21):
Might not like.

Speaker 2 (33:21):
That she might want the one that's absolutely packed and
guaranteed for The. Democrats. SORRY i know that we get
frustrated With republicans in this. State sometimes they don't vote Like,
republicans or they don't talk like. Them SOMETIMES i get all.
That but The acquiescent handover to a party that has
thirteen percent of our registered voters that will claim them
as their party and give them an entire congressional. SEAT

(33:42):
i just think that it is not the will of the.
PEOPLE i don't think anybody who even voted for, that
unless you were A democrat one of those thirteen. PERCENT
i don't think that's what she signed up.

Speaker 1 (33:53):
For whoever, RUNS i wonder if they'll Ask Jasmine crockett
to come out and campaign for. Him Kamala harris to
come out and campaign for.

Speaker 3 (33:59):
Him, YEAH i get.

Speaker 1 (34:00):
THAT aoc to come out And Kim Bernie sanders come
out and campare the layers of the.

Speaker 3 (34:04):
Party go ahead from, mom, Mom donnie? Done have him come.
Out that'd be.

Speaker 1 (34:09):
Interesting all, Right your calls are, coming so on this
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(34:30):
Out we're talking about the latest redistricting. Plan apparently a
judge thinks she has more power than The Utah constitution
and she's going to impose her will on to make
sure that The democrats get their little old seed in
The house Of.

Speaker 3 (34:42):
Representatives we still don't.

Speaker 2 (34:44):
Know we have to go to, this to this To
Judge Diana, Gibson utah's Third District. Court go to her
courtroom and on bended, nee asks this judge if she
approves of The legislative branch's work in redistricting the state
Of utah and it's congressional. Districts, uh let's hear what
you have to, say, Folks let's go To, uh let's
go To ben And. Harriman who's been, Waiting, Ben welcome

(35:06):
to The rod And Greg.

Speaker 11 (35:06):
Show, Yeah, hi, Guys, hey can you say her name
every single? Time don't just say, hey it's a, judge
just stay you get, it but say it every, time
Say Diana gibson and drive it into our brain so
that we know who to vote.

Speaker 8 (35:23):
Against.

Speaker 2 (35:24):
Ben it is such a great, idea such good. Input thank,
you you know. What thank You ben for mentioning, that
because you're exactly. Right we have these retention elections that
are the most insulting election cycle you'll ever have to
participate in because you get zero information on these judges
you're supposed to vote to retain or. Not so if
we could do, anything we can say Judge Diana gibson

(35:44):
about one hundred times a.

Speaker 3 (35:45):
Day if we can be, Yes Diana, Gibson Judge Diana.

Speaker 2 (35:49):
Gibson is it like is it Like Sam? Man if
you say three times in the, mirror you might get
haunted or.

Speaker 3 (35:55):
SOMETHING i don't KNOW i didn't know.

Speaker 2 (35:57):
That let's go back to the. Phones let's go To
kurt And. Clearfield, kirk welcome to The Running Greg. Show, hey,
HEY i know this.

Speaker 1 (36:04):
Current, YEAH i THINK i think we recognize that, name
and now we recognize the.

Speaker 2 (36:09):
Colleague and current friend, CURRENT i, said former, colleague current.

Speaker 11 (36:14):
Friend.

Speaker 2 (36:14):
RIGHT i know you don't want to you don't want
to claim that. Way, yes, sir what's? That what do
you think about all? This you've been a?

Speaker 11 (36:22):
Lawmaker, well.

Speaker 14 (36:27):
When you said thirteen percent Are democrats and twenty five percent,
REPRESENTATION i had to chuckle because the other twelve percent
are Registered.

Speaker 2 (36:38):
Republicans you know they did they did switch, over didn't
they to try and get involved in, Primaries republican primaries
because they didn't think that The democrat had a.

Speaker 8 (36:49):
Chance and.

Speaker 15 (36:51):
You AND i served for some of.

Speaker 3 (36:52):
Them, yes, YEP i.

Speaker 14 (36:55):
KNOW i mean that that's that's how it.

Speaker 8 (36:57):
Goes go.

Speaker 2 (36:59):
AHEAD i was just going to say that sometimes when
you look at the, district you know that being A
democrat isn't going to carry the day in an. Election
but you are A. Democrat so what you do is
you try to be our republican so that you can
and then You millie mouth the, issues so it sounds
like you're you mean what you, say and then there you.

Speaker 14 (37:14):
Go, well and and let's face that the The Fair
boundaries people are basically those that were Supposedly republican are Not.

Speaker 11 (37:27):
Republican, yeah you know that tells you a.

Speaker 1 (37:30):
Lot right, there it, Does, kurt thank. You and one
of the members of that committee was A republican Named Blake.
Moore just wanted to bring that. Up, yeah, yeah he
was crazy plan it's really fair.

Speaker 2 (37:42):
And, amazingly the former board member Of Better boundaries isn't
impacted at, all not at all by, this by the
maps that the legislative branch will come in on bended
need for or The Better boundaries are going to go
with the same judges, say you can pick our map
if you'd.

Speaker 1 (37:55):
Like judge H by the, way what was the name
of that judge, again it is Judge Judge Diana.

Speaker 3 (38:01):
Gibbs, yes that is remember That Judge Diana.

Speaker 2 (38:03):
Gibson let's go to the back to the. Phones let's
go To, mark who's been waiting From West.

Speaker 8 (38:08):
Point.

Speaker 3 (38:08):
Mark welcome to The Running Greg.

Speaker 8 (38:09):
Show good, afternoon. Gentlemen i'm going to show my.

Speaker 15 (38:14):
Ignorance a little. Bit but to, me my question to you,
is so take take your. Plan if she says, no go,
back bring it same plan back to. Her let her say,
no and then bring the same plan back to her
and let her say. No is there a time limit
that they have to have a plan that she approves
or can they just do that on?

Speaker 2 (38:36):
Infinitum you know the answer to, That, Mark i'm glad
you asked this. Question it is there is a time
because you gotta get bows, prepared you got to have.

Speaker 3 (38:43):
Campaigns there's a lot that has to.

Speaker 2 (38:45):
Happen she sat on this case for nine months without a,
decision and then when there's no when the time is,
short because you've got a lot that the clerks have
to do and everything. Else she then foisted this, judgment
her ruling onto the legislative. Branch she has the ability
to re jeck the legislative branches maps and accept The
Better Boundary organization's. Map they're they're going to go into

(39:07):
court with their own, map and this, Judge Diana, gibson
can pick their map if of the of the four,
districts if she so. Chooses that's how that's how upside
down this whole thing IS.

Speaker 15 (39:20):
I would make sure that that law is immediately taken.

Speaker 1 (39:23):
Out, well they're trying to do that right. NOW i
think there are a couple of initiatives up there that
are trying to Do what was that judge's name, again
it's Judged Diana Judge Diana. Gibson we just, yeah we
just want to make sure that people remember that that
that suggestion from one of our great. Listeners just say
that name over and over, again. Folks so when you
see her name on the, ballot if she should be,

(39:44):
retained you'll know what to say.

Speaker 2 (39:46):
Exactly AND i do take that that has such good
advice because it is the it is the worst election
cycle when you see all these judges that they and
they only get retained what every four?

Speaker 3 (39:55):
Years and, uh and you.

Speaker 2 (39:58):
Don't know one you're PROBABLY i design you don't know
anything about these judges to make a. Decision so what
does that retention even? Mean it's an insult to the.
Voters but they're given names to either keep or reject
with no information. Attached and if someone, says, well there
there's a judicial council that has a first, off that's
the attorneys that appear before them and who. Knows good

(40:18):
luck finding. That that's not a well publicized. Rating and
by the, way they like almost every judge you've ever, seen.

Speaker 3 (40:24):
So, big big news coming out Of.

Speaker 1 (40:25):
Washington The president has just announced there is a deal
now Between hamas And, israel phase one of a possible
peach plan for The godzlas. Trip this is just a,
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president's sending that out. Now he may be headed to
The Mid east this weekend to sign a. Deal, Well,
abby you'll have more details on that coming up right
here on The rodd And Greg show And talk radio

(40:46):
one oh five nine k N. Rs if he's a
bad bunny or his ears weird or WHAT i mean
is that way where he got the? Name, well he
showed up at The yankees game last night In New, york,
right and he's ticked off a lot of people yet.
Again now usually at the bottom of the seventh, inning
all The yankee fans, stand they bring a veteran out
on the, field and the honor a veteran and they

(41:07):
Sing God Bless. America he, Sat you're, Kidding he did
not get.

Speaker 8 (41:12):
Up he.

Speaker 2 (41:13):
Sat what is THE nfl going to? Do about that
they can't have the halftime. Show that's because they got
JAY z running. It and that's about the absolute complete
tone deaf to the sentiments of this country and their
love of. Football add that to my list of.

Speaker 1 (41:30):
Frustrations, well what do you say the other, Day you've
ever encouraging All americans to Learn spanish so they can
understand him his music when he shows.

Speaker 3 (41:38):
Up it's about. Him give me a? Break, yeah him into,
that all?

Speaker 1 (41:41):
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Speaker 2 (41:52):
App let's go to our talkback. COMMENTS i love. These
these are usually pretty. Good we have a few that
are in the. Queue let's let's have a.

Speaker 10 (42:01):
Listen why does this not decision by the judge be
appealed and sent to The State Supreme court so the
state constitution is upheld and our legislators that we voted
for actually get to.

Speaker 2 (42:18):
Decide it's a great, question AND i hate to be
the bearer of bad. News so this twenty eighteen ballot
measure that was supposed to be for fair by The
democrats definition of a redistricting process that couldn't take any you,
Know democrat Or republican voters into consideration. Anyway it was

(42:39):
amended because when a ballot, measure folks from a ballot,
measure becomes, law it becomes a law like a law
that was passing a General so.

Speaker 3 (42:45):
Ye it's a.

Speaker 2 (42:46):
Law it's not a constitutional amendment that's. Bulletproof it's a.
Law if laws have unintended, consequences or you want to
amend a, law you. Can you can do that as
a legislative. Body what happened after twenty eighteen and me,
AGAIN i will emphasize that bill was to state, money
passed statewide by only fifty point three four, percent, okay
with no money opposing that bill because legislature doesn't raise,

(43:09):
money they can't use state money to make their. Case
with no, opposition it received forty nine point six six.
Percent so this bill barely, passes but it is. AMENDED
i think in the nineteen session after it's become, law
that this is an advisory that this better boundary is
this so called independent commission with Miraculously democrats on, it
that it is that it is an advisory committe and

(43:31):
they can present their map for. Consideration so that did
go to The State Supreme, court and The State Supreme
court created a new. Interpretation this is this. Year this
happened a new or maybe it was in twenty five
Twenty it was twenty four to twenty five that THEY
i think it might have been in four.

Speaker 3 (43:50):
In twenty, five, yeah NOW i think it was. Earlier this.

Speaker 2 (43:53):
Year they ruled that a ballot measure had had the
strength of a constitutional miendment that the legislature can't. Touch
they're never allowed to they're not allowed to amend. It,
well that would be a different type of law that
we've never seen that's passed by a legislative body or
by a citizen ballot. Measure by the, way WHEN i
was in the, legislature a citizen ballot measure was not

(44:14):
something to take. Lightly you did not want to be
on the wrong side of the state and its, voters
so you take it very.

Speaker 3 (44:20):
SERIOUSLY i. Did but it's still a law like any other.

Speaker 2 (44:24):
Law so it's already gone to The Supreme court in
terms of That. Prop eighteen and this scammed up redistricting,
process of which our State Supreme court thank, You Gary,
herbert and in the rest of our, governors and they they,
said this is this is a this is the new
way to interpret ballot. Measures it has never been interpreted
this way. Before SO i don't, know maybe there'll be

(44:44):
a maybe the legislature gives the citizens Of utah some
other options on how they would like their legislature to represent.
Them and they're separate and equal powers because they've lost
them as of Are State Supreme. Court and This Judge Diana,
gibson Third district Name Diana.

Speaker 3 (45:00):
Gibbson thank. You let's go back to the talk back.

Speaker 8 (45:03):
Line, hey Rodding. Greg so here's my.

Speaker 16 (45:06):
Thought If Judge Diana gibson approves this and is having
her way and overriding the, legislature do we replace her
profile picture on the state's website with the auto pen
asking for a.

Speaker 3 (45:25):
FRIEND i appreciate, it asking for a.

Speaker 2 (45:29):
Friend, Yes, hey you, know we certainly don't want to
get on the wrong side of the. Judiciary they got
a lot of power, nowadays or you, know they're just taking,
everyone's every branch's. Power uh, Yeah so you, KNOW i
might be getting myself in trouble talking About Judge Diana
gibson because she could you, know they got they got.

Speaker 3 (45:44):
A lot of.

Speaker 1 (45:45):
Swat what was their first name, Again, diana last Name.
GIBSON i just, Wondered all, right back to the. Phones
let's talk With kent In Pleasant grove tonight on The
rod And Greg. Show, kent how are you thanks for joining?

Speaker 3 (45:54):
Us, okay, THANKS i appreciate.

Speaker 17 (45:58):
It maybe it's Just dan this, already but why didn't
we Appealed Judge gibson's decision and go? Overhead is that
What greg was just talking about with The State Supreme.

Speaker 2 (46:10):
Court they took two bites at the, Apple, kent great.
Question this is ruling About prop eight Or prop four
that was passing twenty, eighteen was considered by The State
Supreme court earlier this. Year then when she rejected the
maps and said you have twenty minutes, VIRTUALLY i mean
just gave them weeks to apps to draw new, ones
which he takes way longer if you're doing it right

(46:31):
and having. Hearings they went back to The Supreme court
to ask them to overturn, her and they declined to do.
It so they this is twice they've they've they've taken
a bite at that apple with our State Supreme. COURT
i think they're going to try A Us Supreme. Court
but the nexus really is a. State it's a state.

Speaker 3 (46:47):
Issue it's a state, issue all.

Speaker 1 (46:49):
Right more coming up more your comments eight eight eight
five seven eight zero one, zero or on our talk
back line download The iHeartRadio app and you can leave
us some message as. Well more coming up on the
Wing man edition Of The Rotten. Greg we've been meaning
to talk about this for quite some, Time, greg BECAUSE
i think it's the concern we have about the. State
someone is called someone called back well two three weeks

(47:10):
ago and Said utah is becoming the bluest of red,
states you. Know and we've discussed the fact THAT i
wish people would wake up here and realize that this
effort to be fair and inclusive is leading us down a.
PATH i don't think we want to, go AND i
don't think this state wants to.

Speaker 2 (47:29):
GO i think it's a MORAL i think THERE'S i
think it's a it's virtue, signaling and it's a false
moral value to say that if inclusiveness Means i'm going
to throw my arms around people that hate me to
test my, values want to take them. Away don't agree with.
Them they don't want your, Acceptance they want to. Prevail,

(47:51):
yes that that is what you're that's what you're accepting
and bringing. In it Is it is MORE i think,
moral to be, honest to be to be, respectful to
share with people your worldview or how what your values
are and where they. Differ you can agree to, disagree
and you can still love people for who they are
without hating them for not agreeing with. You but what

(48:14):
we're what we get confused with in this this STATE i,
believe is we're not we think it's argumentative to. Disagree,
yes so we think it's we think it's, actually, uh
it's it's.

Speaker 1 (48:24):
Contention that word that floats around so. MUCH i get
sick and tired of hearing.

Speaker 2 (48:28):
It and it is not contention to have an honest
disagreement with. Someone and we should be. Respectful AND i
think that people they're afraid to have an uncomfortable, conversation
and they confuse their discomfort for an uncomfortable conversation as.
Well that's wrong to disagree with, them because Then i'm being.
Contentious you don't have to be contentious to, Disagree, no you.

(48:48):
CAN i mean you AND i have family members that
we don't see eye to eye with in terms of our.

Speaker 3 (48:54):
Politics so we know how that, works.

Speaker 2 (48:56):
We know how, that we know that how that so as,
youns we have to be a Peculiar in my, mind
we have to be a peculiar people and make no
apologies for our.

Speaker 3 (49:05):
Values and that's What that's what drives me, Nuts.

Speaker 1 (49:07):
Greg it's, like we have to make, apologies we're, Sorry,
well why can't we just stand up and be?

Speaker 3 (49:12):
Bold why don't we just say, okay.

Speaker 1 (49:14):
We, understand but, no we aren't going to allow that
in our, state or in our, community and or in
our schools or in our. Whatever but we're afraid to
say that because we want to be. Fair we want
to be loving and. Kind And i'm not saying let's
be all, hateful but let's stand up for what we.

Speaker 2 (49:29):
Will, well if it means that we have to have a,
disagreement if we have to agree to. Disagree if someone
has confused that as that in and of itself is,
contention that in and of itself is, argumentative it is.
Not you know who makes it argumentative the other? Side,
yeah they generally who makes it contentious the other? Side
i'm telling you this is not a both sides. Issue
there is one side right now In america that's deploying

(49:50):
violence to compel to, fement fear to and. Hate AND
i see no equivalency on the right to what we
see going going on right now on the. Left but
what we what we can't do is just accept it
or believe in our minds at accepting people that disagree
with us and not having the courage to explain why

(50:11):
we disagree or that we, disagree that there's something compassionate about.
That that's that to, me is.

Speaker 1 (50:16):
Dishonest do not be afraid to be, bold and do
not be afraid, parents learn this right off the.

Speaker 3 (50:21):
Top just say. No that's. Right all we have to say?

Speaker 10 (50:24):
No all.

Speaker 1 (50:25):
Right Congressman Burgess owens is scheduled to join us next
stay with us on The rod And Gregg.

Speaker 2 (50:30):
Show joining us on the program one of my. Faves good,
guys really Citizens Soldier Congressman Burgess owens joining us on the. Program,
congressman welcome to The rod and Greg show on Wing Men.

Speaker 15 (50:44):
Wednesday once again excited talking talking to you, guys a
lot to talk about.

Speaker 8 (50:49):
And being up to date for.

Speaker 2 (50:50):
Sure Fortly, okay we need an. UPDATE i know The
senence the one holding it. Up it's The house Of,
lords the old and, slow that's The. Senate but what's
your take out there about this government up? Down do
you see any daylight at the end of the?

Speaker 15 (51:01):
Tunnel, well not until there's enough pressure on The democrats
that are, using abusing their own.

Speaker 8 (51:09):
People is not going to work for.

Speaker 15 (51:10):
Them AND i say that because what The democrats, do
it's the. Collectives, uh they stit together and at the
end of the, day they only look for. Power so
just look at what's happening right. Now, Now i'm gonna
go through a few things that's happening With. Utah this
is some Here's utah gonna if it's last a, month
it's five Minds johnson to lose here In. Utah this
now program is gonna be impacted thirty. Days THE wick

(51:33):
programs is gonna run out pretty quickly within a. Week
but here's the, Deal, uh Cousin trump is taking to
TEAR us two hundred out of two hundred, billion going
to add that to THE wick so that those folks are.

Speaker 8 (51:42):
Not are not. Heard guess who's against? That The.

Speaker 15 (51:45):
Democrats so we have we have a party that lives
and thrives on. Pain they want. Power, uh so they're
gonna do as much they. Can and as the key
is that they have enough time because we have come,
together we've done our, part as The house is really
on the on the sentence to make it all. Happen
if they can keep this to the very end of the.
Year they want, insurance The obambacare subsidies to go, up

(52:07):
so Every american feels the pain of.

Speaker 8 (52:09):
That we.

Speaker 15 (52:10):
Have we're looking at together a bill in which we're
going to push that out for another. Year it takes
that off the. Plate they're against that, Also so just
understand it's we're dealing with some very bad people who
want pain and misery for their constituents and the federal federal. Employees,
unfortunately they will feel that if this doesn't work, out
because not only are they going to be let, go
but As trump has, said they're not many of them

(52:32):
ever come.

Speaker 8 (52:32):
Back and it is sad to see this is, happening
but this is.

Speaker 15 (52:35):
What's going on again with the party that do not
care about their.

Speaker 1 (52:39):
Constituents congress Mon. Owens from WHAT i understand on, this
continuing the resolution is all you're trying to do In
washington right now is take en hands to bombacare subsidies
and take them back BEFORE covid. Nineteen not you, know
because The biden administration really loaded up THE covid nineteen,
enhancements and all The republicans are trying to do is

(52:59):
take it back to where it was BEFORE covid.

Speaker 3 (53:01):
Nineteen is that? Correct, well here's the.

Speaker 8 (53:04):
Thing, see that doesn't really happen until The. December end Of.

Speaker 15 (53:06):
December the conversation they're, trying they're kind of complating the.
Two that's what we're talking. About we're staying right now
for this as. Substate we're going to push that out
when The tower us we have enough time to talk about. It,
well we're talking about right now is how do we
keep the government running so you your proporations and they
they don't know what that happens because they want, pain
they want to there's some kind of we blame The

(53:27):
republicans for what they're, doing and it's not going to.

Speaker 8 (53:29):
Work it's just not working right.

Speaker 2 (53:30):
Now SO i want to just, ART i just want
to repeat back so THAT i hear this. Correctly even
those issues That rogers brought up are our negotiations for
a future, day you're looking for a continuing resolution that's
really A biden era budget with the only changes being
the policy changes from the big beautiful bill that was
passed In. July so really the continued resolution is just

(53:52):
the status quality that they don't that they don't want to.

Speaker 3 (53:55):
Maintain is that?

Speaker 8 (53:55):
Right you just nailed.

Speaker 15 (53:58):
It and here's the, thing this is WHY i have
sex or step for the conference now that we. Have
this is not something that many of our my colleagues
wanted because we're going with The biden, numbers which is
still very.

Speaker 8 (54:08):
High we're not happy with.

Speaker 15 (54:09):
That but here's the thing that we're working as the
team realized That president understands he's.

Speaker 8 (54:13):
Doing he's a great.

Speaker 15 (54:13):
Negotiator he's looking for The american people's best. Interests so
we're willing to, say, okay we're going to give up
certain things we don't agree, with and with a two
to three seat, margin say, okay we're going to pass
a clean.

Speaker 8 (54:26):
Continued, resolutions no, gimmicks nothing.

Speaker 15 (54:28):
Else has added exactly what they've voted for for thirteen
times at this, point a binding, number and we're saying
we're going to just let that go until we have
another seven weeks to work out the rest of, it
and then by the, way we'll work that out the
negropreations get it done the right right, way and then
by the end Of december.

Speaker 8 (54:43):
We just start really making sure to take care of
This obomba's subsidy. Deal that's happening, later not.

Speaker 15 (54:48):
Now they're trying to complete the two because they want
to bring as much pain as they can and and
of course they use that as the levers to make that.

Speaker 1 (54:57):
Happen we're talking With Utah congress And burgess Own. Burgess
as you well, know for many years people were talking
About Nancy pelosi and her control of The, house and
you didn't dare to step out of. Line we haven't
heard or seen Any republicans step out of line in The.
House is that because of the leadership Of Mike? Johnson oh,
boy what a good.

Speaker 15 (55:17):
Question first of, all the reason why they do it
is because of the. Collectives they live and drive on,
pain AS i mentioned, before and if anybody steps down
line or A Democratic, party they.

Speaker 8 (55:26):
Will destroy, you. Period so live on here on.

Speaker 15 (55:28):
Outside we have, entrepreneurs we have folks that they're going
to fight for their. District they have different ways of
looking at, it and so this point we've never been
able to come together because we do have these. Issues
what's happening right now is What i've experienced back in
over Abd Al David Day's you have folks all different
personalities coming put the foot in the, field all about the.
Team and we now have enough respect for our president

(55:49):
in for our speaker that say take the, lead continued
to let us go to this, process continue to have a.
Strategy and as you, see the strategy that we're coming
together is winning Because american people realizing it's not The
Republican party The democrats who want to bring this pain
of a of a shut down.

Speaker 2 (56:06):
Government you, know it brings up a really interesting point
because it had been in the past that you would
have some conservatives in The house that wouldn't want to
vote for the status. Quo and we've said for a long,
time get out of the, way get get you, know get,
unified and let The democrats show their true. Colors they're
showing their true colors right. Now you pointed out that the,
wick which is the, women infants and, children this is

(56:26):
that helps, women women and, infants single parents and their,
kids their babies with The trump's using or wants to
use the tariffs that they've collected two hundred billion unspoken,
for and the tariffs that they've collected to keep that
program working and functioning even while the government shut. Down
democrats oppose. It my question, is are do you believe
The american people are tracking that this really is A

(56:48):
democrat created problem and it's at the expense of The american.
People we know that's, true but do you Think americans
every Day americans know that that's.

Speaker 8 (56:55):
True, well and this is why we have an issue
to get the word. OUT i Think.

Speaker 15 (56:59):
America people are going to know, it and they're going
to feel because they've been more, AWARE i think more.
Engaged who ever have been the upside of A november
twenty twenty four is it shows That american people are
now paying. Attention they don't laf with ourselves for the
four years of fire. Before they don't like what happened
in THE covid and so all of a, sudden we're
geting more engaged and we're looking for. Truth and here's
the thing that happened to me forty years. Ago i'm

(57:21):
found out that The Democratic party was lying to.

Speaker 8 (57:23):
Me and ONCE i find.

Speaker 15 (57:24):
Out it's not, fastening it's not looking, mistake it's a
blatant lie on. PURPOSE i left and would never go.
Back that's what's happening right now across this, country and
every minority can think. Of they're realizing that the hope
is with The Republican. Party if you want to be,
depressed you want to be, angry you wanted to divide,
it then you lean in hard with The. Democrats so
we're looking At continued to let people know that we're

(57:47):
working for. Them the great thing is that we're able
to get out of The house The Continue, resolution which
is a, miracle two vote, margin three vot vote, margins a.

Speaker 8 (57:55):
Miracle so we've got that done and it truly is
on The.

Speaker 15 (57:58):
Senate democrats else can take blame for, this but we
NEED i think six or seven seven, total and if
we can't get that From, democrats they're going to take
the blame.

Speaker 8 (58:07):
Because all of us on the other side of voting
to make this to make this go.

Speaker 1 (58:11):
Through Congressman, owens there was a pull out today AND
i think it showed fifty two percent of The american
people Say Donald trump is doing what exactly he said
he would, do and they they you, know he said
he'd do this and he's doing. It there is late
word tonight that we looks like we may have a
deal On gaza and there may be a deal on
the first phase of a. Seafire another big accomplishment For Donald,

(58:33):
trump wouldn't you, Say.

Speaker 8 (58:35):
I'll tell you AND i grew up With Ronald.

Speaker 15 (58:38):
REAGAN i never thought in my last, Time i'll say
that there's a president there's been more, effective more needed
at this.

Speaker 8 (58:44):
Time there are A ragan and we do have. It
we Have it's Called Donald Dondrey.

Speaker 15 (58:47):
Trump AND i THINK i think the most important thing
that we all witness together when he stood up from
the him shot and thoughts At Fight Fight, fight he
commanded respect from, everyone even those who don't like, him
particularly around the world And, willie this is a whole
different person here that we're dealing, with and so we
have respect to the. Nation and he's just continued because they.
Respect people come to him and, say, well what do

(59:09):
you think we can do to work this? Out and
both sides are coming you. CALL i think it was
seven different deals haven't work out with different. Countries this
is a big. One and you imagine that the team
he's put together to make this. Work the country that's
coming to help him out with. This So i'm just
thankful that we all can experience and see this this
Way america should work strength of, power through strength and

(59:31):
respect to. Strength and we're going to continue to move
this and again we only within what the first nine
months of this this uh his, Administration so just watch.

Speaker 8 (59:38):
Out we've got some great things.

Speaker 3 (59:39):
Coming keep it.

Speaker 1 (59:40):
Going That's Congress. Owes always great chatting with. You Thanks
ben for your. Time we'll talk to you. Again thank,
You thank, you. Everybody all, right you Talk congressman For Just,
owens Representing utah's fourth congressional. District always a positive.

Speaker 2 (59:55):
Guy the guy Is the guy is great and you
know he he has traveled the country this this year
helping Other republicans. Wins you got that small. Margin you
can think a guy Like Burgess, owens he wasn't just
looking his own. District he was helping Other republicans win
in tough. Seats and so he's a. Leader he's a
leader In, congress AND i appreciate him calling in and
spending time with.

Speaker 1 (01:00:15):
US i wanted to ask him if he'd like to
play a little wager on a Bet cowboys are playing
The raiders in a couple of.

Speaker 8 (01:00:21):
Weeks down In.

Speaker 1 (01:00:21):
Vegas he's A, raider Super Bowl. Champion i'll be down
to that. Game see if you want a wager just
to see he's A. Raider if he shows off that
Super bowl, ring he'll look, yep, Yeah i've put it.

Speaker 3 (01:00:33):
On and you have to have to a picture. Taken
that's a big.

Speaker 8 (01:00:36):
Old ring it.

Speaker 3 (01:00:36):
Is that's a Genuine Super Bowl champion.

Speaker 1 (01:00:39):
Ring sure is curious bar coming. Up it is The
rod And Greg show On Talk radio one o five nine.
Knrs breaking news. Today it sounds, like or it looks
like The president announcing a short time, ago That hamas
has reached an agreement With israel a ceasefire in In
godza to release the hostage hostages in exchange for Some

(01:01:01):
palestinians who were held behind. Bars BUT i want to
read You, greg and you pointed this out a second.
Ago the contrast into how the media is covering this
announcement right, now right this is the headline ON cnn right.
Now you're ready for this. One it's been two years
Since israel launched its war In, gaza and the life
in the enclave has never been.

Speaker 8 (01:01:23):
Harder that's.

Speaker 1 (01:01:24):
One that's. One hang on one. Second then you Have Fox.
News hamas has agreed to, peace a deal pushed By
President trump to end the war In gaza and return
the hostages two years after the terrorist network Attacked israel
On october seventh of twenty twenty. Three which of those
two statements is?

Speaker 2 (01:01:44):
CORRECT i would answer it in a historical. Perspective if
you thought That america Attacked japan After Pearl, harbor and
you thought that the headline Was america Attacks, japan then
CNN's headline would be. Correct if you think that When
japan Bombed Pearl harbor and we responded to, that that

(01:02:04):
it would Be japan attacks The United states and we,
respond then The Fox news headline would be the accurate.

Speaker 3 (01:02:12):
One AND i JUST i can't even.

Speaker 2 (01:02:14):
BELIEVE i actually, said how is the mere regime media
and the left is going to frame?

Speaker 8 (01:02:19):
This oh this?

Speaker 2 (01:02:20):
Win how are they going to frame? IT i can't
wait to hear how while we're getting it on the
air in real? Time this is this was a war
That israel somehow started when we know for fact that
that's not how the whole thing, Again.

Speaker 1 (01:02:33):
Yeah And Jake tapper already tonight FROM cnn being raked
over the coals because he wanted everybody to, understand this isn't.

Speaker 3 (01:02:40):
Peace this isn't a peace. PLAN i don't Want, yeah the,
DIFFERENT i don't.

Speaker 2 (01:02:44):
Want to put a, negative but we're not talking about
an actual peace, deal, Right we're just talking about a cease.
Fire this Isn't he really didn't do. Anything The trump
didn't really do, this did. HE i, mean that's what
he's trying to, say because they're just the grimace on his,
face the look of, pain And jake Pat tapper's. Faces
he has to digest the fact that this president is
leading this world finding, peace finding, solutions finding you, know

(01:03:08):
finding a ceasefire Between israel And, hamas which most people
would tell you you can't.

Speaker 3 (01:03:14):
Do they cannot admit.

Speaker 2 (01:03:16):
It they have to be on the side against, peace
against the. Ceasefire they have to because they can never
Be there's not a day in their, life for a
second in their, life that they could ever be on
the same side As.

Speaker 3 (01:03:27):
Trump they.

Speaker 1 (01:03:27):
Can't, yeah they can't be Greg they're so hypocritical because you,
know If Joe biden he couldn't have done. It Maybe
Barack obama could have done, It there'd be twenty four
hour news coverage on this right. Now they'd be going
all over the world getting, reaction, parade they'd be holding
parades and. Praising they just. Cannot it is just not

(01:03:48):
in the fiber of their being to Give Donald Trump
trump credit for anything now that he does he may
have achieved. Something, well he already has in The Mid
east with The abraham records, right already done. That now
if he moves in this, direction how are they going
to criticize that? Yet, WELL i know, WHY i know, How,
Greg i've got it. Already, well it's just a cease.

(01:04:10):
Fire you, know it's not a peace, plan it's not
a piece.

Speaker 2 (01:04:12):
Path this is far From don't let, him don't Let
trump oversell. This he's over selling. It this is this isn't. Anything,
oh you don't think it's. Anything ask the families for
over two years now that have been. Suffering, waity even
if it's the remains that you, know you need. Closure
there's just this, horrific horrific thing, happened and you need
those hostages that are alive returned to their. Families and

(01:04:34):
that's going to happen. Now and that IS i think
that there is no understating. THAT i think that is a, major,
major a victory and an important thing that needed to
happen out. There and you, know, LOOK I i don't
know How trump pulled it, off because even me as
far away from it AS i, AM i look at
a moss AND i just think they're animals in terms
of how they, how how they, act how they're just

(01:04:55):
born and bred to to want to kill all all
always and push them into the ocean from the you,
know river to the. Sea Even jordan won't Take palestinians
into their own country because they know they're just they're
they're born and bred and pure hate, hate and yet
they're finding a way. Forward it's it's it's really surprising to.
ME i, mean Maybe i'm just too. Jaded i'm sure

(01:05:16):
at this Point.

Speaker 3 (01:05:16):
I'm shocked that he's been able to pull this. Off, yeah,
well and talk about.

Speaker 1 (01:05:20):
Tough it's one THING i always, said you'll never see
piece in The Mid. East we may be closer to it.

Speaker 8 (01:05:24):
Today.

Speaker 2 (01:05:25):
YEP i think this is a Big this is not
a small step that's taking place right, now and it's
a good. One it needs to happen.

Speaker 1 (01:05:30):
Another half hour The rod And Greg show coming your
way On This Wingman wednesday And Talk radio one oh five.

Speaker 3 (01:05:36):
Nine, okay n r s talking.

Speaker 2 (01:05:37):
About you, know we spoke With Congressman Burgess owns at
the top of the six o'clock. Hour we were talking
about the. Shutdown we're talking about the negotiations going on
with the you, know continued. Resolution actually no, negotiations they
just need to vote for. It but one of the
big controversies really is on the benefits That medicaid benefits
and should illegal aliens get them and do they get?

(01:05:59):
Them The democrats and the leftists and the regime media
are just saying that's just not.

Speaker 3 (01:06:03):
True, yeah and it is.

Speaker 2 (01:06:04):
TRUE i mean you can see it in the language
of their. Legislation you can see it in the states
who are providing it on their. Websites it's not it's
not even a debatable issue for for anyone that takes
the time to.

Speaker 1 (01:06:14):
Look so with that, said, well by the, way one other,
note they voted it down for a sixth time.

Speaker 3 (01:06:20):
Today, yeah six. Times now there you.

Speaker 1 (01:06:22):
Go SO i think there was an, attempt of course
to introduce The democratic proposal that got voted down as.

Speaker 3 (01:06:28):
Well that's not a big.

Speaker 1 (01:06:29):
Surprise but we're now in our we're past the first,
week we're now in the start of the second week
a government.

Speaker 2 (01:06:36):
Shutdown it's, amazing and it's amazing that the regime media
makes it the either don't mention it or it's A
republican caused.

Speaker 3 (01:06:46):
Crisis they don't.

Speaker 8 (01:06:47):
Care just.

Speaker 2 (01:06:48):
Ridiculous so, anyway let's, uh let's let's go back to
this medicaid issue or costs to the illegal?

Speaker 3 (01:06:55):
Immigrants is it?

Speaker 8 (01:06:56):
Real is it?

Speaker 2 (01:06:57):
Not joining us on the, Show Jason, richwine he is
a resident scholar for The center For Immigration, studies had
a great article out costs Of democrat benefits for.

Speaker 3 (01:07:06):
Migrants, Jason welcome to the.

Speaker 1 (01:07:08):
Program, jason and thank you for joining. Us what are
two issues or two of the expenses that you think
The american people should be aware.

Speaker 3 (01:07:15):
Of, well there are really two things going on.

Speaker 7 (01:07:17):
Here one is this. Question is it true As republicans
alleged that The democrats alternative budget would expand public health
benefits for illegal? Aliens that part is. True the reason
why it's disputed is that what The Republican Big Beautiful
bill did was it eliminated certain benefits for people who

(01:07:40):
have a kind of limited protection even though they're. Illegal
they have temporary protected status or deferred. Action in the,
way these are illegal. Immigrants these are not legal, immigrants
and so that's the reason Why republicans are correct about.
That but the second, point and this is really the
more important, point is that regardless of how this budget

(01:08:03):
debate turns, out it's already the case that illegal aliens
can access programs Like medicaid through other. Mechanisms one of
them is through. States several, states Including, California New, York,
illinois have programs that give healthcare benefits directly to illegal. Aliens,

(01:08:25):
now supposedly that's not federal, money, Right supposedly it's just state.
Money but as we, know because the federal government has
a role In medicaid and funding, it money is, fungible
and so ultimately you, know the federal taxpayer is going
to be involved. Here the other way in which illegals
can receive health benefits Like medicaid is through their. Children,

(01:08:48):
remember if you come to the country as an immigrant
illegally and then you have a, child that child is
considered A us citizen and the child Get, Medicaid so
you know, again if you think about, it you, know
as a, parent you, KNOW i have three kids, Myself
i'm obligated legally to provide healthcare to my. Kids IF
i don't do it and the government steps into do

(01:09:09):
it for, me well it's a benefit to me NOW
i don't have to pay. That so clearly illegal immigrants
benefit from putting their children on these.

Speaker 2 (01:09:16):
Programs so how pervasive is? It because they they're so
a matter of fact about it's a. Lie and and
to your, POINT i used to serve on a state,
legislature SO i know that if you have a medicaid
program and you're you're going to fund through your and
you can see it on their websites as you point Out, California, Washington,
Oregon New, york other states that you if you your documented,

(01:09:38):
status you don't have to have documented status to Receive.
Medicaid they're going there's no other. Way they, can you,
know steal From peter to Pay. Paul but that money
is fungible that it wouldn't happen if they didn't have
the federal portion that they're receiving to be able to,
afford you, know as a state, alone to be able
to do.

Speaker 3 (01:09:53):
It that's HOW i see.

Speaker 8 (01:09:55):
It AM i?

Speaker 3 (01:09:56):
Wrong is?

Speaker 11 (01:09:57):
That?

Speaker 2 (01:09:57):
Is there is there something That i'm missing here BECAUSE
i JUST i just don't understand why the receipts clearly
show that the illegal aliens are receiving health care, Benefits medicaid,
benefits but they just say, no they just say, no they're.
Not it seems like it's pretty cut and dry to.

Speaker 8 (01:10:11):
ME i agree with.

Speaker 7 (01:10:13):
You and, actually The Big Beautiful, bill The house version of,
it had a provision that would penalize states for providing
aliens with public health. Benefits in other, words they would
get less federal money if they gave some state, money you,
know so called state money to illegal. Aliens that provision
did not make it through the. Sentence that was not

(01:10:34):
part of The Big Beautiful. Bill that's one way in
which we could crack down on this a little. Bit but,
ultimately you, know AS i, said especially with the pathway
through their, children there's not really much we can do
about that except do exactly what The trump administration is,
doing which is actually cracked down on illegal immigration. Itself

(01:10:55):
the less we have of, that then the less we're
going to have illegal immigrants using welfare.

Speaker 1 (01:10:59):
Program and that's the ultimate solution is, then and it
appears from the numbers we're starting to see, now is
that the president's efforts down on the border are in
fact working and are in fact reducing the illegal population
in this.

Speaker 3 (01:11:11):
Country is that, Right?

Speaker 8 (01:11:12):
Jason?

Speaker 10 (01:11:13):
Oh.

Speaker 7 (01:11:14):
Absolutely you, know during The biden, administration we heard over
and over again that immigration was impossible to, solve that
the border could not be. Controlled, YEAH i MEAN i,
REMEMBER i remember A New York times op ed that,
says the title was something, like you, Know biden can't control,
immigration therefore he should just embrace.

Speaker 8 (01:11:30):
It you, know it's like it's just. Inevitable we have
to accept. It and like that was.

Speaker 7 (01:11:35):
PROVEN i, mean it was already dubious when they said,
it but it's proven without a doubt. False now you
can control the, border you can reduce the foreign born population.
Overall so my Organization center For Immigration studies has estimated
that the illegal alien population is down probably by a
million or so, already and that's true just the first

(01:11:57):
six or seven months of this, year and so's a
lot of work to. Go the trub administration is definitely
in the, wrong i'm, sorry the right, track and it's
proven that other claims about being impossible to inform are.

Speaker 3 (01:12:10):
Wrong here here's a QUESTION i.

Speaker 2 (01:12:12):
Have it's intuitive to me that if you had an automobile,
accident you're rushing people to an emergency. Room there's not,
time nor would it be appropriate to check someone's immigration,
status and so you would deliver that emergency care right.
Away that seems perfectly acceptable to. Me BUT i think
that the word emergency has been has been, thwarded or

(01:12:32):
just just absolutely changed in terms of what care is
emergency care in an emergency? Room are we seeing healthcare
being delivered under the banner of emergency that simply is
not an emergency to illegal.

Speaker 7 (01:12:43):
Immigrants this is a fairly common thing that illegal aliens
who cannot receive programs Like medicaid, directly not even at
the state, level will sometimes use emergency rooms as effectively
a regular doctor.

Speaker 3 (01:12:57):
Office you, know they have an issue that go.

Speaker 8 (01:12:59):
There it's not an.

Speaker 7 (01:12:59):
Emergent they're willing to wait like twelve or thirteen, hours you,
know in the waiting. Room eventually they get around to,
them they get the, treatment and they don't, pay and
so the government ends up.

Speaker 3 (01:13:08):
Paying so, yes that's a major.

Speaker 7 (01:13:10):
Problem but, again you, know even the genuine, cases the true,
emergencies where we all agree that people with emergencies are
going to get treated no matter their economic condition or
their immigration. Status the fact, is, again how do we address.
That we address that by reducing the legal immigrant.

Speaker 1 (01:13:27):
Population chasing the Rich wine joining us on Our newsmaker.
Line Rich wine talking about the cost of the democratic
benefits and what it is costing The american. People sooner or, Later,
greg we just got to quit. SPENDING i don't know

(01:13:48):
what it's going to take in this, country a financial. Collapse,
well will someone wake? Up they just, spend, spend.

Speaker 2 (01:13:54):
Spend, yeah every new baseline for The obamacare, becomes even
if it was temporary or for it becomes the, norm
and they just keep growing This AND i think it
was by. DESIGN i think we talked about this earlier
a couple of days ago when The walt when The
Washington post actually admitted that this thing is never really.
WORKS i think they've been wanting to just kind of
absorb the healthcare industry bit by. Bit this, way just

(01:14:17):
get the government to keep paying. More insurance companies get
the bill as much as they, want the hospitals get
to charge what they, want and taxpayers continue to pay through,
deficit spending endless amounts of money that you, know if
it was real, dollars you would never spend this. Way
and SO i just think it's it was designed to
do what it's. Doing our premiums have gone up eighty
percent Since obamacare. Passed nothing about it is. Affordable this

(01:14:40):
is not an affordable care. Act this is A, yeah
it's a, disaster and we're in. Everyday people that pay
their insurance are the ones that have to. Suffer it's it's.
ANYWAY i think THAT i hope that all of uton's
In americas are so fatigued with. This you, know we
have to look out for those, that you, know for,
illegals and for these all these people who don't pay

(01:15:02):
any of, this and the taxpayers whose burden just grows and, grows,
grows and they finally look around and they can't afford. Anything,
yeah they're looking at the people on the welfare states,
saying you're getting far better care and you don't pay a.

Speaker 3 (01:15:12):
DIAMOND i can't afford. It it can't keep going that,
way it really.

Speaker 1 (01:15:17):
Can't so more people getting coverage lower prices didn't quite
work out that. Way more coming up The rod And
Greg show And Talk radio one oh five nine.

Speaker 2 (01:15:26):
KNAS i am still Citizen hughes On, Wednesdays i'm.

Speaker 3 (01:15:31):
Goose, yeah you're math and this is our this is
our our. Jet.

Speaker 1 (01:15:37):
Yeah by the, way Mother nature is breathing a sigh
of relief. Tonight do you know THAT i did not
know That california can no longer blame climate change and
mother nature for The firs Last?

Speaker 3 (01:15:49):
January?

Speaker 2 (01:15:50):
Yeah, yeah they got an arsonist found on his CHAT
gpt that he was looking at pictures of a burning,
city like so this is this worked out as he had?
Planned AND i heard The Governor Gavin newsom out Of
california today as they have arrested this, arsenist, say we
have an arsonist that destroyed the city and. Palisades where

(01:16:10):
is the accountability with The trump? Administration why can't why
is he not helping these? PEOPLE i, Kettle i'm, hot you're.

Speaker 3 (01:16:18):
BLACK i don't know what you're.

Speaker 2 (01:16:19):
Saying because you're the governor and that's your state that
people can't get building permits to, rebuild they can't get anything.
Done you start up a fundrate of some nonprofit to
help people that you pocket. It, yeah you know your
wife started and no one can find the. Money what
do you mean is that The Trump trump administration hasn't
helped enough yet they.

Speaker 1 (01:16:36):
Accountability AS i, RECALL i don't think the president controls
building permits in that.

Speaker 3 (01:16:40):
Area doesn't.

Speaker 1 (01:16:41):
Know he's very, powerful isn't that, Something BUT i don't
think he controls the building. Permits So Gavin, newsom maybe
you should start approving more of those building permits because
LAST i heard like ten or twelve houses are being,
rebuilt and that's hits so. Far and you, KNOW i
may be wrong on that, number but it's very, low
whatever it.

Speaker 2 (01:16:56):
Is and IF i could ever imagine a president that
would love to be in charge of, building it would
Be president to the. Governor you might not want to
talk like that BECAUSE i think he'd he'd love to
bring THE feds in and at least his administration and
start rebuilding for the people that lost their. Homes and, so, uh,
yeah he is just a bizarre. Guy he the transference
that he uses every day where he accuses people what

(01:17:17):
he's guilty. Of it's it's just it's so repetitive it
should be, comical but people still take him.

Speaker 1 (01:17:22):
Seriously, oh by the, way one final note saw this
article today was In utah. Business apparently the hot business
now is cold plunges or you JUST i have a.
Friend you have a friend who's done. That, yes and
he've never done wonders for. Him BUT i BUT i
think you would do. IT i think it would be cold,
enough that's the. Idea, Yeah i'm not interested in. It

(01:17:43):
i'm not interested in. Cold WHEN i go Into Bear,
lake which is cold In, august and it's so, cold
my lungs don't want to they don't want to. BREATHE
i can't. BREATHE i get so.

Speaker 3 (01:17:52):
COLD a cold plug, Heavens, NO i try. It i'd
like to try.

Speaker 2 (01:17:56):
It they say, it they say it helps with. Inflammation
you don't have any. Inflammation it really, does does. Wonder
BUT i THINK i would be, cold AND i. DON'T
i hate being. Cold i'd rather be.

Speaker 3 (01:18:05):
Hot i'm with. You i'd rather be. HOT i don't
want to be.

Speaker 1 (01:18:08):
Cold i'm hot blooded me. Too All, right that does
it for. Us, tonight head, up shoulders. Back May god
bless you and your family and that's great country of.
Ours thanks for joining us. Tonight we'll be back at
four with a brand new edition of the Rotten Greg,
show enjoy the evening

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