The Rod and Greg Show: Dems Tell Us Who They Are; Tax Cuts in the BBB; Trumps Stands up to Dems Violence

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I am manning the NASA like board all by myself.
We have again just another show, Iray and I will
Rod's away, the mice will play. We thought we had
and worked out a show, a great show, but breaking news.
We've got a lot happening right now. Internationally, We've got
a lot happening with Iran, and we're going to get

(00:22):
into some of the talk about Iran and about America's
role in President Trump's role and how he decides how
to proceed. There's been a lot of debate, especially amongst
conservatives or Republicans or Make America Great advocates who have
supported the President, that people are falling on this issue

(00:43):
of Israel and Iran differently, and we're going to go
through those different takes and what ought to be done.
And there's no I'm going to tell you when it
comes to foreign policy, and I'll get into this later
in the show. I can point to one decision being
seen as obviously the bad decision because consequences were one way,
and then time plays out and the other approach is

(01:04):
taken and it fails as well. And I just don't
think that when it comes to foreign policy, there's a
there's there are simple answers, but we're going to dive
into that a little bit on the program. Also, good
economic news coming out. Secretary UH Treasury Secretary Scott Besvestent
has come out with some extraordinary news for the everyday
hardworking American. We've seen, uh, we've seen growth in real wages.

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And I was shocked when I saw the stats. But
for the first time and nearly sixty years, two percent
doesn't sound like a whole lot, but we haven't even
seen anything close to two percent in almost sixty years
of real growth for wages, hourly wages. This is for uh,
you know, the the everyday people. We're gonna we're gonna
talk about that.

Speaker 2 (01:50):
What's what?

Speaker 1 (01:50):
Why is that the case? I'm going to tell you
right now, I'm going to connect some dots. You can't
you can't escape the fact that there is zero uh well,
there's apprehensions at the border, but there is no catch
and release happening at our border any longer. Those coming
across you can count on two hands basically in areas
where they were coming over by the thousands and thousands

(02:11):
a day. I think that the self deportations of over
a million self deportations that have occurred, have also improved
job opportunities for everyday Americans, and we haven't seen the
inflation grow. We've seen trade agreements where we're emphasizing industry
and manufacturing here in the United States. I think all

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of this is playing a big part. And so we're
going to talk about some of the things happening domestically,
and I will tell you I think there is a
giant overlap between our economic condition and especially for every
day Americans, and what the President Trump is doing in
regards to illegal immigrants and having the deportations continue, even
though the left is throwing the largest fit in the world.

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And what you're finding is we're seeing the fruits. You
hear it on this program where we'll tell you what
the good fruits are of this hard work that President
Trump's doing that he was elected to do. Frankly, but
what you see is as it doesn't matter how successful
he is, it doesn't matter whether we're seeing inflation not
become the problem it used to be. We're seeing the

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job growth, we're seeing wage growth. We're seeing a lot
of good things that we should all be excited about.
But the left cannot be excited about anything that this
Trump administration would do, or that the Republicans who support
President Trump would do. And so they are if you
have an eighty percent twenty percent issue, seventy percent thirty
percent issue, the Democrats are with the most radical wing

(03:41):
of their party and they cannot break away, and I
think it boils down. So they can't do anything that
would remotely look like they are supporting the policies of
President Trump. And that is forcing them because President Trump
is going right after these extreme positions, and he's taking
a drawing a bright line opposed to open borders, absolutely
you know, committed to deporting illegal immigrants, all of those things, transgender,

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not allowing boys to play in girls' sports, the DEI,
all these things. If he takes that bright line in
that stance, as we heard from our interviews yesterday, it
forces anyone who's a Democrat to have to be to
the left of him, which is all trapping them in
that far left category. And then you have a guy
like Fetterman, a Senator Fetterman, who's not taking the bait

(04:28):
on that. And really, Pennsylvania, while it's a you know,
Trump won the state this time, and he won it
in twenty sixteen, I got to tell you, I know Pittsburgh.
I know Pennsylvania that is probably a more dependably blue
state than red. I don't think it's purple. I would
argue that Pennsylvania is more blue, at least in its
statewide elections. But he is, he's common sense and he's

(04:53):
been calling it out and all the Senators. He's the
last guy I thought would be bucking the what the
Democrat have really painted themselves in a corner in defending.
So later on this program, actually in this hour, we're
going to speak to Guy Shirakis. He is from Pennsylvania,
lives there, is a political commentator and has I think

(05:13):
a phenomenal article that was just out. I asked him
to come on the show and explain what he's written.
And what he's talking about is that the that the left,
they are just trapped in these twenty percent side of
issues and it's just not where the American people are.
And we'll have a great discussion with him about four
thirty five about the bomb of the hour. Of this
first hour, we'll speak with Guy.

Speaker 2 (05:36):
You can't ignore.

Speaker 1 (05:37):
By the way, I don't know if you heard Abby's
news report, but there had been reports that Secretary Homeland
Security Secretary Christy Nome was transported by hospital by ambulance
to the hospital. If that's all the information you get,
you think, Oh, I hope it's not something violent. I
hope it's I hope it you know, I hope it's
not too bad. It's an allergic reaction. And in an
abundance of caution. They have transported Secretary Nome to a

(05:59):
hospital by an ambulance. So that one, I hope is
just again an abundance of caution and not a sad
story or a concerning story by itself. But we also
had nose right before the show started that President Trump
will be addressing the nation tonight. I've seen that. I
haven't I don't have a time confirmed, but we would
break to that live address, national address by President Trump

(06:22):
if that is to occur during the program. So if
you be ready for that, if it comes, we're going
to We're monitoring right now to make sure we're ready
if he does break in and want to speak to
the nation. This issue about Iran and Israel. I have
had so many discussions, and I've been privy to so

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many debates about where the president should be, where we
should be and some people are shocked. They think President
Trump has maybe reneged on his campaign promises of not
being an interventionalist, not getting involved in you know, foreign wars,
not being you know, always at war, and they're they're
disappointed to see that that President Trump is engaging, uh,

(07:07):
supporting Iran, Israel, protecting Israel, but maybe even possibly becoming
more on the offense with Israel. And this is this
hasn't been good news. There's people that are very disappointed
by that. On the other side of that coin, there
are people that say, look, if President Trump, of all people,
is ready to step up the game for America to
protect America from the prospect of Iran getting a nuclear weapon, Uh,

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then of all the people we can trust that this
isn't military industrial complex. This is something going on. President
Trump has done enough to earn that trust. I'm probably
more in that camp, and I have reasons for that.
I mean, you have a first term where we never
saw any foreign engagement, and he was tough on North Korea.
He was he was tough on Syria with a sad

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he was tough. He was withdrawing from Afghanistan in a
sane way, not the insane way that Biden did it
to try and fit a September eleventh, twentieth anniversary press
conference that he wanted to have no a real and
smart withdrawal that would not have included the airstrip in Kabal,
which I think I think is in Cabal. I can't

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remember what place in Afghanistan, but we had a significant
facility in Afghanistan that was not going to be part
of it, and they were going to withdraw in February,
in the middle of the winter. So the Taliban couldn't,
you know, go over the mountains to get to the
capital city there and give the new government some time
to get their feet under their legs under themselves. But anyway,

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my point is that he has a track record. Look
at Putin, he invades Ukraine. During Obama's time in office,
he took CRIMEA. Then you have Trump, he doesn't do anything.
Then you get Biden, and what's he do? He invades
Ukraine again, Look at Biden. Obama's said what how much
was it? It was like one point seven billion dollars

(08:55):
on pallets of cash on palletts deliver to Iran during
Obama's time when Hillary Clinton was Secretary of State, What
does you know you don't see you see you see
the president Trump withdraws from that peace agreement, so called
peace agreement that Obama signed. Get out of that, knowing

(09:16):
that that was going to just empower Iran in a
way that they were not shouldn't be empowered. He withdrew
from that. When Biden got in office, what did he do.
He unfroze the trade embargoes for oil. Then you know,
Iran was back in business again, making fifty plus billion
they estimate, and money for their economy, for their country,

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and making them frankly more powerful. So you have Trump
today inheriting the the you know, the the decisions of
an Obama administration, the decisions of a Biden administration. You
have in that one term he served in between the two,
a clear path of strength through peace, through strength, where
he did not engage in a war, he did not try.

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But now you you have a situation with Iran where
you're seeing that we may be in conflict. I gotta
trust the man, I've gotta I gotta believe that of
all the presidents we've had, uh, this is the one
that would that would be least likely. And you would
have to show him something pretty compelling for him to
protect America. America first, as the President has articulated through

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social media and through other statements, is not America is
all by itself. It is that we protect America first
and foremost, and whatever that takes. And he has not
been shy about the fact that Iran cannot have nuclear weapons.
They can't have it, they can't have a nuclear bomb.
That's that's just a deal killer. So folks, I want
to hear from you, because, look I can. I could

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make probably both sides of this argument very clearly, the
don't intervene, don't get involved, don't let the Israel do
whateverwhere Israel wants to do. But I could also argue
the point that if it, if it takes American might,
and and it's Trump's eyes looking at it, I can
live with that too. But what say you, I would
love to hear from you. We're in the event right now.
There's no right or wrong answer to this. We don't know.

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The number eight eight eight five seven zero eight zero
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eight zero one zero if you have a comment about

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America's involvement in the Iran Israel conflict.

Speaker 2 (11:31):
Would love to hear from you.

Speaker 1 (11:32):
When we come back, we take more of your calls
and talk about this a little bit further. Again, a
lot to discuss today here on the Rotten Greg Show
on Utah's Talk Radio one oh five nine. Can Terres,
I want to get your take because this is an
issue that good, good friends of mine, those that support
President Trump, those that are conservative, have different takes on this.
I know I do even different than Queen be It's

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our anniversary and we see this totally different. It's a
so maybe it's good I'm here with you, the listeners.
But let's go to the let's go to the calls.
Let's go to Okay Russell from Syracuse, welcome to the show.
How are you, sir?

Speaker 3 (12:06):
I agree?

Speaker 4 (12:07):
Hey, thanks so much for taking my call. Appreciate your
guys to show you do a great job.

Speaker 2 (12:12):
Thank you.

Speaker 4 (12:13):
One thing I disagree with this war. I feel like
it's going to be an Iraq two point zero I
just can't believe that Tulsa Gabbard and the entire NSA
completely you know, disagrees with the intelligence of the presidents
getting from Israel and Susie Wilds is She's saying that
there's no nuclear weapon. How does that fly in the

(12:36):
face of what Israel's good. I think Israel jumped at
this put President Trump in a bad situation.

Speaker 1 (12:42):
You know, it's a great observer. I'm glad you brought this,
sub Russell, thank you for the call. I I let
me let me read what I think what came out
just a little bit ago about Telsea Gabbert, because I
thought the same thing. I was pretty certain that what
my my recollection was that she was downplaying or saying
that this isn't the what the warhawks want, that the
neo cons wanted this, that they weren't on the verge

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of a nuclear capability. But what I'm reading today is
that is that Telsea Gabbert confirmed she and President Trump
are on the same page when it comes to Iran's
nuclear timeline. Her quote and speaking with CNN was President
Trump was saying the same thing that I that I
said in my annual threat assessment back in March. Unfortunately,
too many people in the media don't care to actually

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read what I said. So it sounds like she's not
at odds with the president in terms of what's going
on in real time. But I had the same thoughts
that you did. Russell. Let's go now to Jared in Ogden. Jared,
welcome to the show.

Speaker 2 (13:41):
Hey, how you doing good? What's what do you think
about this?

Speaker 3 (13:45):
Hey?

Speaker 5 (13:47):
Well, first of all, you know background, twenty years in
the military I Raq, Afghanistan. I was actually in Iraq
when Iran was actually placing a lot of the CFP
well prection because that IDs that were penetrating much of
our armor.

Speaker 6 (14:04):
All right, So.

Speaker 5 (14:05):
People who are calling this a war, all right, this
is not a war. This is this prolonged conflict that
things going on for decades. You get the marine barracks
that were hit now as Iran and Lebanon. You had
the Air Force Parish insaide Arabia Iran, okay, and they
had two thousand plus service members that were merged in
Iraq with the id that they are providing insurgency. Okay.

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So people have got to stop this announcements of war.

Speaker 7 (14:31):
This is strategic.

Speaker 5 (14:32):
Bombings to prevent a nation that can't step to America.
Death of Israel and who's coming up with a nuclear bomb? Okay,
it's not about waiting. If we wait till they get
into their bomb, then they're thirty too late. You have
to defeat it now before they have an actual working
nuclear warhead that they can put on one of their

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missiles that have been shooting at Israel. So don't your
callers understand the difference there. And remember all the American
serf mawers have been murdered by Iran up to this point,
so this is not just something out of the blue
that just popped out of nowhere.

Speaker 1 (15:07):
You yeah, Jared, thank you for your call. Thank you
for your service, Sir. I appreciate it, and I think
that's that is good. Look, I I struggle with this
whole thing, but I I and again we're coming too
close to a break for me to walk through it.
But our foreign policy, you have to have good information
drives good decisions. And I think what's been said here,
the bombing of our marines back in Lebanon, all this

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is a this is a prolonged conflict that's been going on.
This is strategic bombing. I would I would pray that
we aren't looking at boots on the ground. And I
have no interest, and I don't I would be shocked
if President Trump would even entertain We're not going to
install a government. We're not going to install you know,
a new regime. We we don't need the nation build

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none of this. But I think when President Trump toward
the Middle East and he was encouraging other Arab nation
to sign the Abraham Accords, he was resolute and he
was absolutely lying in the sand or lying in the
ground saying bright line, saying Iran cannot have a nuclear bomb.
This is just this is non negotiable. And he reached

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the I remember one speech when he was in the
Middleast saying, I want the Iranian people to be happy.
I want them to be a prosperous nation. This isn't
about the people. All I want to see is a
good deal and an agreement made and peace found that
would not harm the people of Iran. But you can't
have a nuclear your government can't have a nuclear bomb.
Which I think all those things are true. It's why

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I am I don't think this is a Lindsay Graham,
although he's so giddy it disgusts me. He's a warhawk.
This guy, he doesn't have kids, he doesn't have grandkids.
He's not thinking about anything else. He for some reason,
this just this just I think, you know, is gasoline
to his engine.

Speaker 2 (16:54):
He loves it.

Speaker 1 (16:55):
It's the it's the worst part about it. But I
don't think this is a Lindsay Graham neo con conflict.
I think President Trump has tried mightily to find a
peaceful solution, and I think he had history of doing
this in the past with North Korea. Remember he called
what's his name jung ung Kim Jong ung, He called
him rocketman. He said, you keep testing those rockets. We're

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going to bring down hell and fury on you like
you have never imagined. What was the result of that.
He wanted to come, Kim Jong Run wanted to come
and shake Trump's hand in the de militarized zone and say, hey,
we're good.

Speaker 2 (17:29):
Good.

Speaker 1 (17:30):
I mean that conflict calmed down very quickly, and it
wasn't from being weak. He was very strong in his tone,
just like he was with Iran. So I think you
have a he has a track record of trying to
find peace your strength anyway, I like the calls. I'd
like you to continue to reach out to us eight
eight eight five seven zero eight zero one zero, share

(17:52):
your take. They're always great and they're always insightful, and
right now, while we're in the middle of all this,
it's good to talk about what we think should or
shuldn't happen. So your calls when we come back, will
continue to talk about this. You're listening to Utah's Talk
radio one oh five nine, okayn ARUs. We're going to
use the number to call eight eight eight five seven
zero eight zero one zero for your comment. There is

(18:13):
no right or wrong answer on this. We did not
elect a president to get into another war.

Speaker 2 (18:19):
Is this a war? What do you think?

Speaker 1 (18:20):
Folks? I want to hear from you. What's your take.
Let's go right now to Casey from West Valley, who's
been patiently waiting. Casey, thank you for holding and welcome
to the Rod and Greg Show.

Speaker 8 (18:31):
Thanks Greg. I think if there's ever been a time
where Trump meets the pull and fuel up those B
fifty two's and go rolling thunder over Iran, it's right now.
I mean, he wants an unconditional surrender. But these guys
have no clue, really, how powerful the US is, and
you keep them in the air, you keep them fueled

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and ready to drop until that surrender is signed. I
don't want the war. I don't want my kids to
go to wars. They can't have a new We're clear
on that. Yes, let's make sure that we get that
unconditional surrender.

Speaker 2 (19:05):
Thank you.

Speaker 1 (19:06):
I think that's true. And I'll tell you I'm looking
at A sponse said, what are you looking for here?
Reporter asked President Trump, while he looks like he's on
Air Force one. He says, an end, a real end,
not a ceasefire and end. So it looks like he's
pretty resolute on an unconditional surrender, not a ceasefire. Let's
go to Mike in provo. Mike, thank you for holding,
and welcome to the Rod and Greg Show. What do

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you make of this.

Speaker 8 (19:28):
Hey, Greg?

Speaker 9 (19:29):
Well, Greg, I'm in the same ballpark as case he is,
except I think you need to take it to the
next level. You know, the United States is always reactive.
We've got to be proactive. You've got three of the
biggest bullies on the block right now, Russia and China,
North Korea and now the Iranians, I mean the Chinese

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are knocking on the door of taking over to Taiwan.
So you know, don't send a man where you can
send a bullet, and don't send a B fifty two
where you can't send a strategy nuclear weapon. If Trump
wants an unconditional surrender, you've got to punch them in
the no so hard they're never going to forget it.
Turn that entire country into a glass parking lot. That's

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how you're going to get an unconditional surrender. Do it once,
and do it right.

Speaker 2 (20:16):
Well, said Mike. I'll tell you that.

Speaker 1 (20:17):
I think sometimes the problem with winning a war is
if you don't win outright. I mean, after World War Two,
is there any any mystery any guests as to who
won that war and how was it?

Speaker 8 (20:27):
It was?

Speaker 1 (20:27):
It was decisive, it was irrefutable. I do think if
this com when this conflict goes with Israel, United States participation,
whatever it may be, it has to be decisive. Given
the state that we're in right now. Let's now go
to Mark and ogden Mark, Welcome to the Rod and
Greg Show.

Speaker 2 (20:44):
What do you make of all this?

Speaker 10 (20:46):
Thanks to me, it's very simple. I don't want to
hear anybody say he started it. It started when one
point two billion dollars arrived in Tehran on US military
aircraft that started war. This is ending the war. And
I agree with you one hundred percent. As the next
military individual, I don't want a fair fight. I want

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to go in. I want to get it over with
and I want to leave. And they have nothing left.

Speaker 6 (21:13):
And you can.

Speaker 10 (21:14):
Tell Russia is not saying a word. All of the
Gulf states that are Iran excuse me, Egypt, you know
the you.

Speaker 7 (21:22):
Know the list I do, They're just standing there.

Speaker 11 (21:25):
Watching it is.

Speaker 10 (21:25):
Let's just complete this, get it over with fast, and
they're toothless. We are completing what Obama started here.

Speaker 1 (21:35):
Here, Mark, thank you first, thank you for your service.
Thank you for your comments. Look, it is absolutely true.
They put pallets of cash, over a billion dollars of
cash there. The agreement was garbage broker by Hillary Clinton.
Trump got into office. He wiped all that Clinton. He
wasn't going to do it. I knew that that was
just making them stronger by the day. What it is
that Obama negotiate I use air quotes and negotiating, and

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then when he's out of office, Biden just picks up
the baton from Obama and then really, you know, unfreezes
all the oil embargoes and everything else so they can
continue to now be a profitable nation. To what to
our demise or to the to I think the region's demise.
Mark brought up something very interesting. I don't hear a
lot out of out of Russia or China right now.

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I'm not hearing from the Arab States like you would
think if things had gotten up to this level, you
would hear. I don't think that bodes well for Iran.
I think there's a I think Trump's leadership is being
felt even from adversaries right now. But again I think
that I think what we all look for in this
is a swift action, a decisive victory. There is no

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I mean, he said I'll give you sixty days. Back
when his Middle Least tour, he was telling Iran in
sixty days, come to an agreement, just come to an agreement.
He's not talking that way any longer. It's now, you
know they waited sixty one days. That's too late. He's
now saying it's time to surrender. And I'm I mean
the language that Trump is using, and again he's not
one that's a nation builder. He was one of the

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first to really criticize the Trump the Bush administration for
their their endless war in Afghan Iraq and Afghanistan. But
he has to be privy to things that are where.
He believes that these nuclear weapons are on the cusp
of being owned and operated by the Iran and he

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can't let it happen. And that is a consistent sentiment
that he has always had. He's talking how about this,
have you heard? I mean he put out on social media,
people of Tehran evacuate. I mean that wasn't state It
wasn't Iranian state television or radio that sent that message
out to Tehran residence. It was a social media post.

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And I don't know how they're getting him in Iran.
I don't know how the communication works. But that city's
empty today. I saw images of it. I saw the
traffic last night, the app Bumper to bumper, people just
fleeing that sea as soon as President Trump put that
notice out that they needed get out. I'm telling you
that's leadership in terms of who the Iranians are listening

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to and who they're paying attention to and taking seriously.
So we've got we've got all that happening in real time.
We'll continue to cover this. We're gonna keep talking about it.
Eight eight eight five seven zero eight zero one zero
is the number to call. What is your take again?
I can I hear plenty from people. Let's say we
this just feels like another quagmire, another endless war. We've

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been through this, We've seen this movie. I've heard it.
There's some part of me that sympathizes with that. But
I actually trust as president and think we got it.
If we're if it's he's saying it's time to engage,
I think he's seeing something. So we'll come back. We'll
come back to your calls when we come back. After
the break. You're listening to Utah's Talk Radio one oh
five nine Cannoras. Things are gonna get tougher unless there's
an unconditional surrender. What do you think about all this?

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Let's go to Travis, who's been waiting from Brigham City. Actually, yeah,
let's go to Travis. Travis, welcome to the program, right,
How are you good? What say you about all this?

Speaker 12 (25:04):
Well, we've been in a lot of conflicts for a
lot of years, and it seems like over and over again,
we constantly give back the territory after granting the freedom
instead of adopting them into the fold of freedom of
the United States. I think we should keep Iran if
we go in there.

Speaker 1 (25:22):
Thank you, Travis, thanks for the call. Do we try
something not exactly like that, but I think Iraq that
we tried to, you know, help them along the way,
and it just seemed to go horribly bad. The Middle
East a different place. But you know, again, we should
at least get oil or something to pay us back
for the costs they incur. What they're costing everybody. Let's
go to Troy and Sandy. Troy, thank you for holding.

(25:45):
Welcome to the Rod and Greg show. What do you
think about all this?

Speaker 3 (25:50):
Hey, So, I know that it's very clear that the
government of Iran particularly has been facilitating terrorist groups all
over the Middle East for a long time, and it's
apparent that they and their military apparatus has to go
as far as their leadership. But we know for sure

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that trying to go in there and lease regime change
by putting boots on the ground is not going to
be feasible. You could do limited strikes with like GBU
fifty fours and gut their nuclear capacity and gut their
air force. But remember just in the sixties and seventies,
Iran was a prosperous, secular place and the people of
Iran have been horribly persecuted by their governments. So for

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us to just go in there and glass this place
and just murder everybody there because the leadership, but total
war has not been something that we've been allowed to
do since World War Two. That was the last, Well, Korea,
that was the last. Those were the last conflicts where
the concept of total war was actually feasible. You saw
in Vietnam. We couldn't even go into North Vietnam and

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do business. Because the world is different. You're not going
to be able to go into Iran and glass the
whole country without having rebellion inside the United States, And
I mean cities will burn over break. That's one for two.
It's also wrong and these people have been horribly persecuted. Persia, Persia.

(27:17):
Think about the history of Persia. I mean, I understand
that it's that's a fundamental estate. But we can't just
wipe Persia off the map, you know, surgically destroy it.
I have the nuclear facilities.

Speaker 1 (27:32):
I'm coming on a break, But I want to ask
you a question because I hear what you're saying. I
I and just real quickly though, there's been talk that
the royal family of Iran that they got out there
in seventy nine when the when the Shaw fell and
Iatola Committee took over, which is where that used to
be a prosperous nation. Looked like Manhattan actually New York City.
I mean, it was very modern, a very prosperous nation.

(27:53):
Then it went into the Stone Age. Do you think
the people will return to maybe a you know, their
royal family that ruled prior to the Ayatola. Do you
think there's that desire amongst the people Iran? I know
you don't know, but what do you think.

Speaker 3 (28:08):
I think if they're empowered, they're trained, and they're armed
by maybe ohd eight teams mareene berets specifically, they could
accomplish that. But I mean, you're gonna have to find
a place to hide hundreds of thousands of fighters from
the IRGC, and the only way you're gonna be able
to accomplish that is with a massive ground invasion like

(28:29):
the entire Marine Corps. Yea, we know that's not the
samlgo so if you could ship in five hundred thousand
rifles and ten billion rounds of ammunition and Stinger missiles
and all sorts of stuff and get some OD eight
teams in Oh.

Speaker 1 (28:46):
I shoot, sorry, Troy, I did not mean to hit
that button. We're hitting a brake right now, but I
was just getting the cursor over it to get ready.
But you're right, I don't I think the boots on
the ground scenario is a is a deal breaker. I
don't think we ever want to repeat what we even tempted,
even in a smaller measure than what Troy described in Iraq,
which was a disaster.

Speaker 2 (29:05):
We don't want to do that.

Speaker 1 (29:06):
But I look, if the people, the people do need
to rise up against that regime. And if you know,
if you see what Iran and Tehran looked, tarn looked
like prior to the Iatola taking over and deposing the
Shaw of Iran, it is shocking to see what that
country used to be and its place in the in
the Middle East versus where it is today, very very

(29:28):
different and not in the positive. So a lot has
to happen there, But I would want the people themselves
to deal with it. And look, I think Israel's got
a job on its own to do.

Speaker 2 (29:36):
They need to do it.

Speaker 1 (29:37):
I think they look very different than Ukraine looks against Russia.
I know different circumstances there, but I think Israel's big
enough to take care of themselves in many many ways.
Want to see that happen. That's their fight. Look more
to come when we come back after this hour. You're
listening to Utah's Talk Radio one oh five nine can Arrests.
We've actually asked guys Shaki to hold off a little

(29:59):
bit on the inner because we wanted to get over.
We wanted to talk about what's going on in Iran,
in Israel, and the United States role and all of that.
And of course I knew it would be the case
that your take your opinions from veterans from just just
so knowledgeable, and I loved hearing the assessment that you're
sharing with our listeners and with me, so wanted to

(30:22):
keep going. So we pushed this off. But joining us
right now, Guy Shiraki, he is he's a commentator. He's
from the Keystone state of Pennsylvania. He sees a lot
and contributes a lot. Has a great article today. Them's
tell us who they are so guy, welcome to the show.
Look you right that people people define themselves by what

(30:44):
they say and what they what they do, and that's
how you know who they are. Well, who are these
Democrats in twenty twenty five?

Speaker 13 (30:52):
Well, unfortunately, you know, Democratic elected officials have spent the
best part of twenty twenty five doing everything humanly possible
to stop President Trump from succeeding, and they have turned
down every opportunity to work with them. So you know,
you look at the state of the parties and look,
Republicans aren't perfect, right, that's not news. Republicans aren't perfect,

(31:15):
and we're not always right. But the Democratic Party is
going off the cliff. And when you look and see
the last several weeks of them flying to l Salvador
to meet with an illegal immigrant gang member, when you
see them getting arrested, rushing cabinet secretaries at press conference,

(31:36):
rushing ice detention facilities, when you see them obstructing go
to court to force President Trump to rehire people that
are fired, to spend money he's trying to save. You
have to step back right and say, this is the
twenty twenty five Democratic Party. It's a party that believes
in open borders, illegal immigrants, wasting money, riots in cities,

(31:59):
and the police officers and secret service agents are taking
literally taking their lives in their hands because one of
the two major parties doesn't have their back. So I
thought I'd step back and look at all that's happening
and say, this is who the modern Democratic Party has become.
And I'm hoping desperately for the sake of the Republic
that somebody in the Democratic Party steps forward and says

(32:21):
their party's going off the rails and needs to come
back and be about the serious business this country needs.

Speaker 5 (32:27):
Guy.

Speaker 1 (32:27):
We've been exploring this concept, this eighty twenty percent. Why
are the Democrats just doubling and tripling down on the
twenty percent side of this? Against it common sense everyday Americans.
We've been exploring it with different guests. What would you say,
where is the pivot? Why are we not seeing at
least for Machavelian reasons? You show me where the people
are going so I can lead them there type of saying,

(32:48):
why are Democrats, other than maybe your own John Fetterman,
why are they not pivoting to common sense?

Speaker 13 (32:55):
Yeah, you point out a good thing, right, Greg with
Senator Fetterman of this. With all the members in Congress,
with all the Democratic members in the Senate, there's one
person who's noticeable because he says things that folks in
Salt Lake City or Philadelphia you would think walking into,
you know, a sandwich shop, would say.

Speaker 5 (33:16):
Which is you know?

Speaker 13 (33:18):
If you're here illegally and break the rules, we should
probably send you back. If you hold a rally on
campus and burn the American flag or spew saying from Hitler,
you probably aren't doing things that we want and we
ought to keep an eye on you. If Moss wants
to take innocent children hostage, they should release them. That

(33:39):
they expect the war to end, and unfortunately Greg those
statements are known by people not only in Pennsylvania but
in Utah because they stand alone. Why is he the
only voice? Because I think their objective is to dvance
an agenda. It's not to govern, it's not to get
them done. They are all running for awful so that

(34:01):
they can give speeches and make Instagram posts. They're preaching,
I say, respectfully, it's become sort of like the cult
they're preaching and they're looking for an audience, and I
think they're going to keep doing it until we remove
them to oblivion or someone other than John Fetterman, other
than Center Fediment's that's all.

Speaker 11 (34:21):
I think.

Speaker 13 (34:21):
It's because they truly believe this and they can't keep
it up because it's become almost an article of faith,
and they're going to keep using social media to promote this,
this philosophy, this cult like approach to governing, which is
something we've never seen before. You know, Democrats and Republicans
both used to say we're going to steal the border.

(34:42):
They just disagreed on how. They both said that people
that commit murders should be arrested. We debated the murders
of the Vent tunnel that everybody thought they should be
in jail. We thought that if you said a cop
car on fire, you should be arrested. The other party
has withdrawn from all those things we used to agree.
And the only conclusion you going to have is they
don't care about winning or losing. They care about advancing

(35:04):
the cause, which is a shame because we have real
problems in this country and we could use both parties
focused on solving them.

Speaker 1 (35:11):
So you said that we've never seen this before, because
what I'm about to ask, I probably have never asked
before this year, and that is it seems to me
the way you're describing it, and I would agree, they're
throwing away seventy seven million people that vote for Trump.
They do not care. They have actually cast aside the
American voter nationally, and it looks like they just want
to reset, maybe change who voters are, maybe bring in voters.

(35:32):
Maybe they don't care who votes, just who counts. It
looks like the way forward is not to capture the
hearts and minds of American voters, but to maybe what
find new voters that currently don't exist.

Speaker 13 (35:45):
Is this a strategy, Well, you know, it's interesting. I
don't know whether it's a strategy, but it certainly you know,
when you go back and look at the pieces, I
think you're right. They're not interested in talking to you
or me. They're not interested in talk of people they're
voted for Donald Trump, many of whom were first time voters,
of people that had dropped out of the system and

(36:07):
decided they had given up on politics that Donald Trump
for us them back. They're not interested in talking to them. So, yes,
I think we're now seeing as Democratic politicians fly to
El Salvador to meet with people that have been deported
as they go to court to block future criminal the

(36:28):
legal immigrants from being deported. And then when they talk
about giving them free licenses or you know, drivers licenses
California and New York City, talking about allowing them to
vote in local elections, you get this sneaking suspicion, not
because of something you know you're read on a third
rate website, but because of what they're saying out loud.

(36:50):
But they're trying to bring new people into this country
and rush them into the system through drivers licenses and
voting in local elections, because apparently they think these people
who come here burn American flag, wave their own flags
and tell us America is wrong and American some cases
the devil. They think those should be the new American.

(37:12):
I think all of us and you're listenings, you know,
we may have some disagreements about how legal immigration should
be done, but we believe in re emmigration.

Speaker 7 (37:20):
Should I joke.

Speaker 13 (37:22):
My name is Hiaki, my relatives literally, my wife's a Compoland.
We didn't come over on the Mayflower, but I can
tell you I was taught that to be in America
was a blessing and that it was our job to
contribute to it and to participate in it. There are
no records, there are no pictures in shoe boxes of
my family burning American flags or yelling at American politicians

(37:45):
or shoving American cops around. It's a very different approach
of look. As a Republican, it's great that the Democratic
Party doesn't want a government because we're going to win election.
As an American, it's dangerous that forty or forty five
percent of his he is being led in a direction.
It's not only different because they're not conservative, but they
truly are looking to destroy the fiber of this and

(38:08):
that's why to write it particularly. You know, this is
a message to the so called Republicans that don't like
Donald Trump. This is a message to independent We need
your help because the other party doesn't want to solve
problems in government. So whatever disagreements we have over policy,
they pale in comparison to the people who want to
actually farm America. So this is a call to the

(38:31):
folks that perhaps are in the middle or unsure about
President Trump. You don't have to love President Trump. You
have to love American recicize the other side is trying
to stare it apart and we need your help and
maybe that will wake the other side up.

Speaker 1 (38:45):
Thank you guy, Guys Schrocky political commentator. He's doing a
lot of good work putting out a lot of good
content there from Pennsylvania. Thank you for joining the program.

Speaker 2 (38:56):
Folks.

Speaker 1 (38:56):
I think Pennsylvania is kind of a It's an interesting
state because you got Pittsburgh on one side, you got
Philadelphia on the other side, both highly liberal Democrat cities,
metropolitan aias. The middle is where you see the maybe
like in the United States, the flyover counties, but they're
more conservative. But what we're seeing happening in Pennsylvania. Why

(39:16):
I think you see a Senator John Fetterman making the
comments he is really appealing to common sense, is that
there are a lot of people in Pennsylvania and a
lot of people in America who were not card carrying
Republicans who did not if they were ever asked, say
I'm right of center, self identified. But boy, they can't.
They cannot subscribe to what the Democrats are pushing right now.

(39:36):
They do not agree with this party, they do not
agree with what they're doing to this country. They love
our country, and I think that there is no math
to winning an election without numbers and without people, and
that includes those that are independent or don't necessarily think
they affiliate with a party. I think Donald Trump is
leading America, not just Republicans, not just Maga as the
Democrats like to demean and say. I think that this

(40:00):
presidents leading the men and women, the hardworking Americans in
this country in an important way. And so I look
forward to the midterms. I think I think Congress has
to do their bit, but I think we've got good
days coming with this president.

Speaker 2 (40:12):
But we're going to get into this.

Speaker 1 (40:13):
I want to talk a little bit about immigration and
some of these issues that have really become polarizing for
the extreme left and how they're trying to drag us
along with those I when I go into that, when
we come back after the break, you're listening to Utah's
Talk Radio one oh five to nine can Arrests. It's
my anniversary day, wedding anniversary, Happy anniversary, Queen Bee thirty
one years but probably today is most remembered. Thirty one

(40:36):
years ago was the O. J. Simpson's White Slow Bronco chase.

Speaker 2 (40:40):
You Ray.

Speaker 1 (40:40):
It happened thirty one years ago. Today that's the day
I got married. Was when they had that Bronco chase.

Speaker 14 (40:45):
I'll never forget that night because I know exactly where
I was when that was going on.

Speaker 2 (40:49):
Can you share?

Speaker 14 (40:50):
I care you. I was in a car with four
of my buddies on our way to Vegas to see
the Eagles Hell Freezes Over Tour Wow at Sam Boyd Stadium.

Speaker 1 (40:59):
See, I think everyone can remember where they were the
day I got married.

Speaker 2 (41:02):
I don't think you're alone in this.

Speaker 1 (41:04):
I think everyone knows where they were the day that
Queen Bee and I got married. We had to have
that as a question on the show. Or were you
on June seventeenth, nineteen ninety four. That would be a
good question. So look, but what we're really talking about
is our past interview with Guy Shrockey. He's talking about, Look,
the Democrats are in this twenty percent area and they

(41:25):
cannot get out. They are boxed in there, and it
so much of it has to do with their absolute
contempt for President Trump. If you take the interview we
had yesterday and you continue it on to the discussion
with Guy today, what it looks like is happening in
America is as soon as Trump comes out and speaks
common sense and says boys shouldn't play girls sports. Borders

(41:47):
should have be enforced and not be open. Illegal immigrants,
particularly criminals, need to be all need to be deported now.
Even though you know the more moderate Democrats they can't
join President Trump in these positions or he's considered a sellout.
They have such bad Trump derangement syndrome. Nobody, including their donors,

(42:09):
which are as leftist as you get, these new billionaire donors.
They want to destroy the our foundational institutions of this
country and socially engineer this country because they don't trust
self determination, liberty and you know, freedom of self determination.
They don't trust us to do that.

Speaker 2 (42:27):
Anyway.

Speaker 1 (42:28):
It is put the Democrats, I think, in such an
untenable place, and I think that it reveals itself most
strongly in this issue of illegal immigration, where when Biden
had four years of doing whatever he wanted to do,
is impact he created. Every state feels like a border state,
and it was by design. By the way, these NGOs,
which we now know are federally funded, were bussing and

(42:51):
flying people that they were allowing crossing the border without
being vetted. All over this country. People are feeling it,
but particularly legal immigrants in their and their communities have
felt it negatively. And it's why the poll numbers have
shifted like thirty points to a plus six plus eight
support President Trump and his efforts to deport illegal immigrants

(43:12):
from legal immigrants. As that being the polling the people
asked the poll that is an astounding poll result. And
I certainly don't think the Democrats dependent on that. I
think they thought the opposite would be the true. But
you know, on the View, which we don't watch that
I don't watch the View, but every once in a
while there's just a clip that shows up that we
have to share with you. Because they think that they

(43:34):
have just people that are going to repeat back, regurgitate
back what they believe in the everything their worldview. So
they had Arnold Schwarzenegger, former governor California, action hero, not
really all that conservative, but an immigrant to the United States,
and they asked him, you're an immigrant, what do you
think of all this? Expecting fully expecting Arnold Schwarzenegger to

(43:54):
be just parroting back everything that they've been saying and
spewing on their show. Let's have a listen to what
Arnold Schwarzenegger had to say to the question of being
an immigrant in America, you're an.

Speaker 11 (44:05):
Immigrant country, did you have a visceral reaction to.

Speaker 2 (44:09):
What they're doing? What ISA is doing when you see
the videos of it.

Speaker 15 (44:13):
I just think the world of the great kind of
a history that we have with immigrants in America. But
the key thing also is at the same time that
you got to do things legal. That is the important thing,
you know, So you got to do things legal. And
those people that are doing illegal things in America, and
they're the foreigners, they are not smart because when you

(44:34):
come to America, you're a guest and you have to
behave like a guest. Like when I go to someone's
house and I'm a guest, then that will do everything
I can, keep things clean and to make my path
and to do everything that is the right thing to do,
rather than committing a crime or being abusive or something

(44:54):
like that. So that doesn't really work in this country.
So I think the important thing is when you become
an immigrants to think about, Okay, I go to America
because I want to use America for the great opportunities
that America has in education, in jobs, creating a family,
all of those kind of things, then you have to
think about, Okay, if I get all of those things

(45:16):
from America, then I have to give something back.

Speaker 12 (45:19):
You have a.

Speaker 15 (45:19):
Responsibility as an immigrant to give back to America and
to pay back to America, and to go and do
something for your community for no money whatsoever. Give something
back to after school program, especially Olympics or whatever it is.

Speaker 1 (45:33):
Make this county of blaamscher joy Bar. She just but
she could not stand that was just killing them that
he said that. Now, I want to contrast what you
just heard from from Arnold Schwarzeneger. I don't know how
any of us would argue otherwise. I think he has
made perfect, crystal clear sense in terms of being a
guest in this country and taking full opportunity of the

(45:54):
freedoms that are granted. Let's contrast that with Ilmar what's
your name? Ilid Omar, the congresswoman from Somalia. She's an immigrant.
Let's hear about the America she thinks she's living in.
And sadly, this is a public servant.

Speaker 16 (46:09):
To be coming out of our country. I mean, I
grew up in a dictatorship and I don't even remember
ever witnessing anything like that, to have a democracy, a
peacan of hope for the world to now be turned
into one of the you know, one of the worst countries,

(46:32):
where where the military are in our streets without any
regard for people's constitutional rights, while our president is spending
millions of dollars prompting himself up like a failed dictator
with a military parade. It is really shocking and it
should be a wake up call for all Americans to say,

(46:54):
this is not the country we were born in, is
not the country we believe in, This is not the
country our founding fathers imagined, and this is not the
country that is supported by our constitution, our ideals, our values,
and we should all collectively be out in the streets
rejecting what is taking place this week.

Speaker 1 (47:18):
There you go, two immigrants with two completely different takes
on this country, one appreciative and loving this country and
all the opportunities and freedoms they have, the other calling
it the worst country, like a failed dictatorship. What a contrast.
Where do you find common ground when you hear two
commentaries that way? I think the United States every day
people will agree with Arnold Schwarzenegger not with Congresswoman Omar. Okay,

(47:41):
we're going to go to a break. When we come back,
we're going to go we have more to discuss. We're
going to dabble back into the Irani Israel thing. I
got to quote a great clip from Senator Fetterman, and
we're going to go back to also the issues that
are confronting us domestically here. There's a lot still going on.
We're going to talk about that as well. You're listening
to Utah's Talk Radio one oh five nine. Canteris going

(48:04):
back to the show and what we've talked we just
I just shared with you in the last last segment.
Just two compolar opposite assessments of from immigrants. One Arnold Schwarzenegger.
One Congresswoman Omar. One is grateful for this country, loves
this country, thinks that immigrants should not break the law
and should understand their guests in this country and do

(48:25):
all they can to enjoy the benefits and liberties of
being in the United States.

Speaker 2 (48:29):
And then you have.

Speaker 1 (48:31):
Some immigrant from Somalia, a Congresswoman Omar who says that
this country is the worst country and is worse than
a failed dictatorship and has nothing but venomin contempt to
share about what she thinks the state of this nation is.
And I think that that's a Again, it's a it's
a good example of where the left is right now
and how lost areon why I don't think people in

(48:53):
America actually agree with them. And another example this would
be this was this happened today. Oh, by the way,
I announced at the being of the show that it
looked like there might be an address by President Trump
to the nation tonight. That is not going to happen,
That he's not going to be seen at all tonight.
They said that there's a lid on the president, so
he'll be making no appearance. So there's no national address

(49:16):
to the nation tonight, but I mentioned that there could be.
But that's I just want to clarify that more information
has since come. There was an arrest in New York City.
Brad Lander, he's a New York City comptroller who's also
running for mayor. He was arrested today by federal agents
at an immigration courthouse in Lower Manhattan.

Speaker 2 (49:38):
And I don't know if you know this.

Speaker 1 (49:40):
I'm looking at the Homeland Security Post and they're saying
that New York City Comptroller Brad Ladner was arrested for
assaulting law enforcement and impeding a federal officer. Now the
way the New York Times describes that crime, They've got
a new definition of a crime of assaulting a law
enforcement officer and impeding a federal officer.

Speaker 2 (50:01):
They call it. Are you ready for this?

Speaker 1 (50:03):
He was arrested Tuesday and an immigration courthouse as he
tried to escort a migrant whom agents were seeking to arrest.
That doesn't sound so harsh, does it. He tried to
escort a migrant whom agents were seeking to arrest. That
sounds a little soft shoot to me. It doesn't sound
like as much of a crime the way the New

(50:24):
York Times would like to frame it. No, that is
a crime. And the irony with this clown is that
there are there are posts from this this Brad Ladner
where he says no one is above the law, No
one is above the law. This used to be the
Democrat's favorite, saying no one is above the law. And
he said it plenty, this guy, But you know he
I guess, I guess. They asked the governor Hokeel about

(50:47):
this and what she thought, and she's outraged. How dare
anyone arrest the comptroller of New York City, how dare
they is if they have this status where they are
they are actually above the law. How dare you arrest
someone who's who's assaulted a law enforcement officer and impeded
a federal officer from doing their job.

Speaker 2 (51:07):
How dare you?

Speaker 1 (51:08):
I just think that they can keep saying it, they
can keep talking this way. I just don't think anyone's
gonna pick up what they're putting down. I think it's
a you know, another mistake, another mistake that's been made.
Federal judge just now while we've been on this program,
has blocked the Secretary of State, Marco Rubio from requiring
people to use their actual sex on their passport. This

(51:28):
federal judge has decided that all of America, not the
Secretary of State, or the federal government or the executive
branch of our federal government, should create the qualifications for that.
But this judge thinks there should be M for male,
F for female, and X for whatever I want it
to be. Really wants it to be an ex if
they chose to be. And now has has issued a

(51:50):
court order that blocks the Secretary of State from changing
that rule. And requiring people to list their biological sex
on their passport. Don't know that that will stand, but
again it's what the judiciary does. And what has yet
another signal to everyday Americans that you know this this
extreme left, they they are elitists. They just aren't tracking.

(52:14):
They're not They're not with us. One of the one
of the rare people in Washington who and I got
to play this real quick, who is a Democrat and
is the last guy on planet Earth? And guys Shrock
you mentioned this as well when we spoke earlier this hour.
Who we would not have expected to be a purveyor
of common sense is democrat. US Senator John Fetterman asked

(52:37):
about Israel. Uh he he just gave his simple take
and it's uh, and it's controversial for some, but he's
he I think he's tracking common sense more than and most.
Let's have it here what he has to say.

Speaker 17 (52:48):
Of course, I'm always going to stand with Israel through this. Now,
if I'm an outlier and democratic, I mean, I guess
perhaps I'm unapologetically very pro Israel. And now here it's
what's true is that Iran has nuclear ambitions one hundred
percent and now we can't ever allow them to acquire
a bomb. And now what they's also true is that

(53:11):
they have created the proxies, they have Hamas and Zbolah,
you know. So now let's hold them accountable for this.
And again we absolutely magnificent what Israel has done since
since Saturday when this launched as well, done with such
precision and lethality, and we want to support that.

Speaker 8 (53:29):
Now.

Speaker 17 (53:29):
I think we absolutely got to follow him into this
and take out the nuclear facilities because it might not
even a true, true path for real peace in the
reason now because now taking out Iran at this point,
that's necessary if you ever have a chance to have
any real peace in the Middle East.

Speaker 2 (53:48):
Now you might not be pro Israel. I'm i'm.

Speaker 1 (53:50):
I think Israel needs to deal with its own business.
I think the United States needs to get involved. That
there's a nuclear bomb. But what you hear out of
this Democrat center is he is getting crushed by the
Democrat Party because he has broken ranks. He is saying
things that he genuinely feels, that is his conviction, that
is what he feels is the case. And the Democrats
they have no room for that. They have a worldview

(54:11):
and extreme worldview, and you are there's a sheet of
music of wich you're supposed to sing from, and Fetterman
has found himself singing off a different sheet of music
and he's getting attacked from his own party for it.
And again, I think that when Americans hear people, they
might not agree one hundred percent with someone, but they
do know it's America and that we should be able
to have our own take. Okay, folks, when we come back,
we're going to talk more about this, talk about some
foreign policy again. We're going to just keep going into

(54:34):
this issue as it is an ongoing issue here on
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guys that this is my anniversary, my wedding anniversary with
Queen Bee thirty one years also the White Bronco Chase.
But a listener, a very conscientious listener and lover of
history also let me know that it's also the two
hundred and fiftieth anniversary of the Battle of Bunker Hill. No,

(54:58):
Queen Bee and I getting married is not the Battle
of Bunker Hill. No, that's not it. This is actually
the real battle, you know, back in two hundred fifty
years ago, the Battle of where more British soldiers got
lost were lost than in any other battle in the
entire war. Doctor Joseph Warren, I know a lot about
this guy, and he sacrificed a lot, had a lot
of kids. Leader of the Sons of Liberty. Although an officer,

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fought in the front lines with his men and was
shot in the forehead and killed instantly, he gave the
ultimate sacrifice, as so many others did. That's from a
listener about another anniversary that takes place today. So Battle
of Bunker Hill.

Speaker 2 (55:33):
I've been there.

Speaker 1 (55:34):
There's a monument there. Anyway, if you're in Boston, you
have to check it out. That's worth seeing. So anyway,
we're talking about we're talking about a lot of things.
We're talking about what's going on domestically, what's going on
in foreign policy. Joining us on the program, we have
got to talk I know we haven't talked about yet
on the show, but we've got a lot going on.

(55:56):
With the recision of package that the President has sent
nine something billion dollars worth of cuts. You've got the
big beautiful bill that has you got a pass or
we've got trillions and tax increases coming our way, plus
a lot of hopefully good cuts things of the Senate's
still working on it, but I want to know what
the status of all this is. So we're going to

(56:16):
Brandon Arnold. He is the executive vice president of the
National Taxpayers Union, and Brandon, I want to thank you
for joining us on the show.

Speaker 2 (56:24):
Let me ask you this.

Speaker 1 (56:25):
I need your assessment on the fate of both the
big beautiful Bill and the Recision Package.

Speaker 2 (56:32):
What say you? What's going to happen with these both
of these bills.

Speaker 6 (56:36):
Well, I'm pretty optimistic on both fronts, and there's a
lot of work to be done. But you know, both
of those pieces of legislation have already cleared the House
of Representatives, which has an extraordinarily thin margin of error there.
And you know, you talk about the Recisions Package, it's
nine point four trillion dollars nine or four billion dollars
with a bee. That's a lot of money for you

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and me.

Speaker 7 (56:58):
That's not a.

Speaker 6 (56:59):
Lot of money the federal government. It's a rounding error.
So if we can't start to cut even in these
small increments that's about one point i'm sorry, zero point
one four percent of the federal budget. If we can't
start taking some steps in this direction. It's very, very
concerning about the fiscal health of our nation. And in
terms of the tax build. Yeah, you're absolutely right. We're
talking about a four plus trillion dollar tax sit if

(57:22):
Congress can't get this right. So I think something will pass.
I'm not sure exactly how it'll look. It's going through
the legislative ringer right now, but I think we'll get
a good bill. In the end. It averts this massive
economy crushing tax increase that'll take place at the end
of the year.

Speaker 1 (57:37):
So, Brandon, here's my take. I'm a recovering public servant.
I served in our state house, the Senate. You hear
a lot from Senator Lee, our senator and you Tall,
You hear from rand Paul, You hear from Wisconsin Senator
Johnson about wanting to see more cuts. But there's a
part of me that says McConnell, whether Susan Collins or Murkowski,
seems like there's some spending people in there. Is what

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will the bill that comes out of the Senate look like?
We know, nobody rubber stamps and other houses bill so
that we know they're going to have their own bill.
Who's behind the scenes, do you think carrying the day.
Is there going to be more cuts coming out of
the Senate or is it going to be even more
lean than what the House sent them.

Speaker 6 (58:16):
Yeah, that's need to describe the push and pull that's
taking place very nicely, and I associate myself a lot
more with the Mike Lee's and Ron Johnson's other world.
I think we do need to make some pretty significant
cuts to the federal budget. Right now, we're spending two
trillion dollars more than we take in each and every year.
That's unsustainable. So I think this bill will likely move

(58:37):
in a positive direction. And maybe that's me being overly optimistic,
but I think we talk about some intelligent reforms to medicaid.
You know, the left goes bananas if you cut a
nickel from medicaid, But if you actually talk to people
about the kinds of reforms that we're making, they're just
common sense reforms. People that have the ability to work
should work or be looking for work. If they're going

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to collect taxpayer funded benefits, that's pretty straightforward. If somebody's
in this country illegally, they should not be receiving government benefits.
That's pretty common sense. So we talked about these types
of reforms, let alone all the money laundering that California
and other Blue states did. I think there's a lot
of savings to be achieved, and I'm hoping that the
messaging delivered by folks like you to your listeners, but

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people like Ron Johnson and Rick Scott and Rand Paul
to the constituents. I'm hoping that that'll prevail in this
situation and people will realize that there's so much fat,
there's so much waste for aud abuse within the federal government,
and just squeezing that out will improve our fiscal out tremendously.

Speaker 1 (59:37):
Brandon, what would you say to our listeners who are
frustrated with the lack This should be a lot bigger.
Doge found at least one hundred and seventy billion. Those
are with receipts. You have a lot out there, as
you've already pointed out. So we have listeners and I
share this sentiment that we would love to see more.
We think there's receipts for more spending cuts and we
need to make them. What would you say to the

(59:57):
listeners who think that the Recision Bill or the Big
Beautiful Bill aren't worthy of passage without much steeper cuts.

Speaker 2 (01:00:05):
How do you balance that?

Speaker 6 (01:00:09):
Yeah, I mean I very much sympathize with that viewpoint,
first of all.

Speaker 7 (01:00:13):
Second of all, this is the old.

Speaker 6 (01:00:15):
Aircraft carrier analogy here. You can't turn an aircraft carrier
around on a diying. It takes time, it takes effort,
It takes a lot of patience here, and unfortunately, we're
going to have to deal with that scenario where we're
making some modest reforms. Initially, that nine point four billion
dollar back it gets pretty tiny. But I think members

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of Congress need to see that they can cut spending
and that the sky will not fall, that there will
not be children dying in the streets of America, that
we're going to be Okay. All we're trying to do
here is get back to say twenty nineteen levels of spending,
where twenty twenty levels of spending, because what's taken place
over the past few years is this ratchet effect. Spending

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went up during the pandemic, and even though the pandemic
didn't go just the pandemic went away and kept going
up and up, we didn't revert back to where we
used to be, And that's all we need to do.
We were a pretty strong nation. Back in twenty nineteen,
we didn't have cataclysmic effects because we didn't spend enough
government money. So I think getting back to that point

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is pretty reasonable, pretty common sense economics.

Speaker 1 (01:01:20):
So if I'm an optimist, is this muscle memory? Are
they learning how to cut? Is this recision package of
nine point four billion and the big beautiful bill this
is getting their muscle memory. They're learning how to do it,
and we'll see more cuts. We'll see more recision packages
coming from the White House. We'll see budgets that might
actually have real cuts in them. Or is this a
one time shot in a moment where we have a

(01:01:43):
unique majority in the Congress in with President Trump.

Speaker 6 (01:01:47):
I think it's the muscle memory. I think that's what
we're developing now. I know the folks at omb Russ
has a great team over there. They're working on it,
additional recisions package to bring to Congress. First of all,
I think that's the right way to do things. We
need both Congress and the President to buy into these
spending cuts and go through that traditional statutory process here.

(01:02:08):
We can't just allow the executive branch to do things,
you know. Latterly, because I do think that creates legal
challenges and reduces the durability of making some of these texts.
I'm sorry spending cuts, but I do think they're already
in the process of teeing up more recisions packages. I
think they are excited to get these bills done, get
these bills of the President's desk, and move on to

(01:02:29):
the next five. So that is my hope. Again, I
don't intend to be polyannis year, but I do think,
you know, it does take many, many pieces of legislation
and many efforts to get back to where we need
to be fisically speaking.

Speaker 1 (01:02:42):
I guess my last question is, and it's maybe a
nice to have, not a half to have. We've heard
the center Thune majority leaders say that he thinks around
fourth of July we could see something finally done, maybe
sent to the President's desk. I kind of think that
it might be when they're staring at their August recess
and they're not going to have it if they don't
get it done. So I'm looking at closer to August.

(01:03:05):
What do you see when do you think that the
Senate and the House will come together both on the
big beautiful bill and the recisions package.

Speaker 6 (01:03:14):
Yeah, I mean, the tricky thing is so much of
these conversations is happening behind closed doors. So they are
talking right now as they try to get the necessary
fifty one votes in the Senate. Here they are simultaneously
talking to their counterparts in the House of Representatives, and
the Speaker is very much involved in this conversation Jason

(01:03:34):
Smith on the Ways and Means Committee, All of the
key players on the House side are being involved in
the Senate conversations. With the idea that once they get
this bill past to the Senate, and they are aiming
to do that, probably in a week and a half
or so, ambitious, but that's what they're aiming for, then
they could move it very very quickly over to the
House side and kick off the fourth of July holiday

(01:03:59):
with some serious fireworks. I think that's plausible. Then again,
it doesn't take much to throw things off track here,
and just a hub one or two bumps in the
road to be pushing us back to August recess as
you suggest.

Speaker 2 (01:04:14):
Thank you, Brandon.

Speaker 1 (01:04:15):
That's Brandon Arnold with executive vice president of the National
Taxpayers Union. I hope you're right. I like it if
you're HEARDing his voice he's bullish. I want to be
bullish to Look, we don't have a single Democrat in Congress,
okay that is going to vote for any of this,
And there's not any less heat coming to Republicans for
whatever they vote for. They could cut twice what they're

(01:04:36):
cutting and deliver the tax cuts and preserve our tax rate.
And Democrats are gonna yell just as loud, just they're
going to be just as opposed. So what are we
arguing about? I don't know what the kind of work
that's been done to show, not some vague percentage of
what's cut so that Democrats can assign some draconian, you know,

(01:04:57):
consequence to the cut, but actual we don't want to
pay social security to people that are one hundred and
twenty years of age and order because they don't exist
in real life.

Speaker 2 (01:05:04):
There's so much out there. I don't know what the
what the hold up is?

Speaker 1 (01:05:08):
They need to get going and they're never getting a
the Democrats, not only are they not going to vote
for it, tell me who their national leader is is
at AOC, is a Bernie? They don't have a national
voice right now, so time is ripe. I hope they act.
Hope they act quick. Hope July is historic in nature.
More to come when we come back from the break,
We're going to continue to talk about Iran Israel, but

(01:05:31):
we're going to talk about some domestic policy as well.
Got a lot going on in this country, and we're
going to break it all down here for you. Here
on the Rod and Gregg Show. You're listening to Utah's
Talk Radio one oh five nine. Canterus joining the high life,
vacationing toes up somewhere, probably enjoying scenery and you know,
all all the good stuff. He deserves it. He deserves it.

(01:05:51):
He's the father of this show. He's allowed me to
be his wingman, his co host, the goose to his Maverick.
Happy to be with you, folks. I again, we've just
had too important a week. How could we not have
this show? How could we How could I not be
here while all the things that are happening in the
United States and even in Utah are happening right now.

(01:06:13):
There's I still have it. I always get to this point.
We got a little more than thirty minutes left in
the show, and there's just other points that I prepared
for the show, and I'm behind the curve and I
haven't got out, and we've got a great interview coming up,
not this segment right now, but in the next Chris Tremolia.
He is a smart right. We have him on the
show a lot. He's he's a writer for the Washington Examiner,

(01:06:35):
and he has a great article called There's a new
Sheriff in town and his name is Donald Trump, and
he talks about how the left has used violence, riots,
fear to compel human behavior and to get their way
in America for a very, very, very long time. And
Trump is just built differently and we're seeing something different
from this president. So we're going to dive into that later,

(01:06:56):
but before we get there, I just want to touch
on this foreign policy before we get to that interview,
and just from my own experience, Okay, this is just
this is this is nothing I read in an article.
This isn't someone reminding me of history. This is my life.
And as I've seen, you know, conflicts, foreign conflicts play out,

(01:07:17):
and the narratives that have happened after those conflicts, and
what it means to me and what I would warn
all of us. I would be very careful that we
don't create these hard and fast rules about what we're
going to do by way of foreign policy without considering
what facts may come to bear, what what information may
be out there, because it is a high probability in

(01:07:38):
my mind that some of these issues that come up internationally,
there isn't a right answer there. You can try both.
I'll give you an example. During the remember Desert Shield,
when Iraq went into into Kuwait. Desert Shield turned into
the Desert Storm, and you remember bad Dad Bob was
telling you how the Iraqi soldiers winning at all while

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you know, while they were losing uh And and our
allied troops under George Herbert Walker Bush stopped short of
Baghdad and they signed a peace agreement with Saddam Hussein.
And in that peace agreement was the fact or he
signed that he had weapons of mass destruction. And back

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then it could be the muster gas, it could be poisonous.
There was a lot of ways. It wasn't nuclear war.
It was mass weapons of mass destruction. And one of
the ways that he was able to strike a piece
deal with the ally the United States and its allies
which included Israel but Arab states as part of this
frail coalition, was that he would have UN peacekeepers come

(01:08:42):
through and watch him and monitor, have video cameras on,
not turned off, and he was going to destroy the
Iraqi government military was going to destroy all these weapons
of mass destruction in the presence of UN inspectors. It
was called full and unfettered access. That's what we're going
to get. So the peace treaty assigned. And as time

(01:09:04):
wears on, you find out that Saddam Hussein and Iraq
starts turning off the cameras for the UN inspectors. They
start not allowing the UN inspectors into these areas where
they're supposed to see and witness and document the destruction
of weaponry that they agreed if they could sign that
peace agreement that they would destroy. So you got to
a point where there was a defiance. The conditions of

(01:09:28):
this treaty were not fulfilled. And everybody I knew from
nineteen ninety one and through probably the rest of the
nineties would say Bush should have finished the job. He
got to Bagdad, he should have finished the job. It's
crazy that he stopped short. He should have finished the job.
He should have taken a Saddam Hussein out. And that's
all I heard. I heard it all the time, and

(01:09:49):
it was with absolute conviction because the peace treaty wasn't
being followed. Un inspectors are getting kicked out, they can't
watch them destroy their weapons of mass destruction, and all
anyone could say is you should have finished the job. Well,
two thousand and one comes along and for you know,
the nine to eleven, the horrific attack of nine to eleven.

(01:10:10):
But it President has fought his son, George W. Bush
decides he is going to finish the job. They've just
heard a decade's worth of you know, George Herbert Walker
Bush didn't finish the job, but he thinks there's a connection.
He's going to finish the job. Peacekeepers or kicked out.
They violated the peace treaty, so he's going to finish
the job. So ten years of you should have finished

(01:10:32):
the job, and then we had twenty years of trying
to finish the job, of which we never did.

Speaker 11 (01:10:37):
That.

Speaker 1 (01:10:38):
This even hits locally where a mayor of our own
in one of our own communities here in Utah was
in a National Guard and was killed.

Speaker 2 (01:10:46):
What was he doing?

Speaker 1 (01:10:46):
He was training iraqis to be you know, to be
self sufficient, to have a new government, and he was
terribly with someone who was supposed to be an ally
was he was killed. And it just didn't work. This
finishing the job and trying to install a new government
in Iraq. It didn't work. So you got all the

(01:11:07):
criticism for not finishing the job. Then you'd try to
finish the job, and that's an abject failure. If I
go back earlier, I remember when the Olympics were canceled
because the USSR had invaded Afghanistan. And what you found
was that by nineteen eighty eight, just like our experience
in Afghanistan, USSR withdrew. They couldn't win in Afghanistan. So

(01:11:32):
in May of nineteen eighty eight they are leaving and
I think by February early of eighty nine they're completely
out of Afghanistan. Well emerged a book called Charlie Wilson's War.
It was about a congressman, a Democrat congressman from Texas,
and he had gone on a humanitarian trip to Afghanistan
and he met the Mujahdeen and these are these these

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are the same people that are our enemies today. But
the mujia Hadeen were fighting the USSR and Charlie Wilson
is a congressman. He started to marshal money and appropriations
all on his own to get these the mouja Hadeen,
these anti aircraft missiles or weapons or whatever they were.
And he started marshaling and working with CIA and working
with intelligence and getting the move Jahadeen to be able

(01:12:17):
to defend themselves in Afghanistan against the Soviets. Well, so
they made a movie out of that. I think Tom
Hanks played in the movie. But I read the book.
But the big lesson learned at the end of that
book was we the United States helped the Mujahadeen in Afghanistan,
and then when they repelled the USSR and they were gone,

(01:12:39):
the United States withdrew completely. And when they withdrew completely,
they had had resources, money, weapons that the America was
supplying them to help them defend themselves against the USSR.
But when the USSR was repelled, America pulled out and
didn't give anything. And so the end of the book
it says, look, we should have helped them build schools,
We should have helped them, We should have continued to

(01:13:00):
stay there and help these people, not abandon them. They
think that there's there's there was conventional wisdom at the
time that that power vacuum of us leaving is what
uh uh uh Osama bin Laden was able to take
advantage of and fill that vacuum and see his power grow. Well,

(01:13:21):
I will tell you that if you look at Charlie
Wilson's war, if the message was if you're gonna help
a nation like Afghanistan, don't just help them fight their enemy,
help them with resources so they can sustain themselves and
grow their society. Well, that's the Iraq War all over again.
How did that? How did that work for us? I
go again, go back to Iraq. So so again there's

(01:13:45):
two ways to do something, and I would argue that
neither way worked. It's the Middle East. So that's that's
that's the challenge, folks. A lot of these things look
like it's one or the other, but there's a lot
of complexity in how we deal with these these issues
and these threats. I think President Trump has it right.
It's got to be a threat to US, the America,
to the United States of America. And I would put

(01:14:05):
a nuclear warhead right up there as a threat to
the United States if that is in case, If that
is in fact the case. Okay, we're gonna go to
a break and we come back. We're gonna speak with
Chris Tremolia from the Washington Examiner. You're listening to Utah's
Talk radio one oh five nine canterests with the help
of Denny. He raised with us, but now Denny's helping
me too. Maybe they have to tag team with me

(01:14:26):
when I'm doing this all by myself. But Rod's vacation.
He'll be back next week. But you know, times don't
stop just when Rod goes on vacation, So we have
to keep going. We got to keep keep you informed,
keep the information flowing. To do that, we've invited Chris
Tremolia to join us. He is he's a columnist with
the Washington Examiner. Mister Tremoia, thank you for joining us

(01:14:49):
on the Rodd and Greg Show.

Speaker 7 (01:14:51):
No problem, Thank you for having me.

Speaker 1 (01:14:53):
Okay, love the headline, love the story. Been waiting for
this interview. Love it so much. There's a new shrif
in town and his name is Donald Trump. Maybe you
can elaborate to our listeners what is this about?

Speaker 11 (01:15:06):
Sure, so I think everyone probably is familiar with what
is saying.

Speaker 7 (01:15:10):
There's a new sheriff in Town. I actually got when.

Speaker 11 (01:15:13):
I was watching in an old movie in nineteen eighties,
we with Eddie Murphy forty hours and another forty hours,
which she said prominly, and it just kind of clicked in.

Speaker 7 (01:15:22):
My head and I was like, Wow, how pertinent is
that to?

Speaker 15 (01:15:25):
You know?

Speaker 7 (01:15:26):
What he said then to what's going on now?

Speaker 11 (01:15:28):
And this is kind of like a silly thing I
had in mind, But then I just began to think
of it, and.

Speaker 7 (01:15:32):
I was like, well, you know what, it is kind of.

Speaker 11 (01:15:34):
Valid because what's going on now has Trump has kind
of been putting.

Speaker 7 (01:15:38):
All these policies they're.

Speaker 11 (01:15:40):
No longer tolerate the left has been doing as far
as like they're bullying tactics or intimidation tactics through protests
and riots and looting it and all the things that
have been courring throughout the country. It has made the
left apoplectic. They have kind of resisted that. They've criticized Trump.
They have attacked him for basically upholding law and order,
and I just kind of thought, like, you know, trying

(01:16:02):
to be somewhat humorous in the whole thing, even though
they can community take up with the whole New Sharf
in Town. But I mean, if you think about it,
it's really true. He's doing things that presidents in the past,
Republican and Democrat politicians in the past, Republican and Democrats,
have not done. They've let these rioters go unchecked, do
whatever they want. They just they chalked it all up

(01:16:24):
to being an example of free speech and the rights
to protest. And as an American under the Constitution, you
don't have a right to, you know, write and destroy
and assault people and harm innocent people, and destroy communities
and burn buildings down. There's no right or or law
that says that they have a right to peaceably, peaceably protest.

(01:16:45):
And that's what the left likes to admit. And that's
what Donald Trump is doing as far as like, you know,
we're sawing law and order.

Speaker 1 (01:16:52):
You know, you're so right in your article you go
over the list of this is this, this is the
arrow in their quiver. It's the chaos, it's the crime,
it's the it's the riots you pointed out, uh for
during the Iraq War, uh, the Occupy Now demonstrations, Black
Lives Matter, Michael Brown, Trayvon Martin.

Speaker 2 (01:17:10):
It goes on and on.

Speaker 1 (01:17:11):
It seems to be what they've always done to create
fear amongst the American public. And the way the fear
is supposed to go away, where you're supposed to feel
safe again, is if you'll just comply. If you comply
with what they're doing, they will pause and if you
get back to it, they'll start it up again. But
if you behave then we will we will stop the
chaos and the destruction.

Speaker 2 (01:17:32):
Am I?

Speaker 1 (01:17:32):
Am I overplaying it? Or is that has that been
kind of the uh, you know, their their op modus operendi.

Speaker 11 (01:17:39):
No, I mean, you hit the nail on the head.

Speaker 7 (01:17:41):
That's exactly what it is.

Speaker 11 (01:17:42):
It's complying and it's forcing uh submission to comply with
they want.

Speaker 7 (01:17:47):
Now you know what the.

Speaker 11 (01:17:48):
Interesting it's what the left ones and what the liberals
and Democrats want, and they use these like foot soldiers
so to speak, to go out and you know, bully
and intimidate and calls violence and.

Speaker 7 (01:17:58):
Chaos and destruction and try to put instilled fear in
people to.

Speaker 11 (01:18:03):
Initiate that compliance, I mean, and then put in the
article going back.

Speaker 7 (01:18:07):
I mean, it's kind of.

Speaker 11 (01:18:08):
Amazing how long they've been getting away with this, just
in the twenty first century. I mean, you have the
part where I brought up going back to the first
Bush administration that they were kind of doing this and
protesting and quality home.

Speaker 7 (01:18:21):
But you could go.

Speaker 11 (01:18:21):
Back into the late sixties and the early seventies. It
had the radical left wing weather underground organizations that were
going around causing destruction. There was in the early eighties
someone tried to bomb Congress. You know, everyone talks about
January sixth now day, but what about the left radical
leftist who went into bomb Congress in the eighties, And
they always overlook and sweep under the rug this long

(01:18:44):
history of leftist violence that goes throughout the world. Mine
you're not just the US, it's this global left wing
network of violence, but particularly in this country to what's
going on.

Speaker 7 (01:18:54):
Today, it's the US, but.

Speaker 11 (01:18:57):
That this has been going on for years and for
whatever reason, people have been too afraid to deal with
it head on.

Speaker 7 (01:19:04):
They've they've been like hiding.

Speaker 11 (01:19:06):
Behind the constitutions, the First Amendment saying they have a
right to protest, which they do, but they've never can
they've kind of like you know, come up short when
they're enforcing the laws on this this rioting and there's
loving which there is no right for that.

Speaker 7 (01:19:21):
That's breaking all that's against the wall, you.

Speaker 11 (01:19:23):
Know, the Founding Fathers where I'm building around saying oh yeah,
you could have the right to peace, of the assemble
and protest, as long as you go out and destroy
the country.

Speaker 7 (01:19:31):
I mean, we've been pushed.

Speaker 11 (01:19:32):
Down riots and rebellions. I mean the Whiskey rebellion.

Speaker 7 (01:19:36):
I think was in the seventeen eighties, seventeen nineties. So
you know, this has always been a part of our
country to.

Speaker 11 (01:19:41):
Not allow this to happen. And yet, for whatever reason,
politicisms have been like cowering and fear to do anything
about it until we have President Trump's come a law.

Speaker 1 (01:19:50):
So we're speaking with Chris Tramolie with the Washington Examiner.
So let me give you an example. So in nineteen
ninety two, when we had the La riots, you had
Governor Pete Wilson, you had Mayor Bill Bradley. The riots
have gotten out of hand, public safety is at risk.
Then George Herbert Walker Bush calls in the National Guard,
he calls in the Army as well as the Marines,

(01:20:11):
and they all coordinate under then Colon I think he
was joined chiefs of Staff Colin Powell. Okay, there was
no complaint. I don't ever remember there being some complaint
that that George Herbert Walker Bush had overreached in nineteen
ninety two when this when this riot broke out. Now
my question is this now when they bring in four

(01:20:34):
when Trump brings in four thousand troops, because for twenty
four to thirty six hours depending on who's counting, the
rioting and the violence went uninterrupted. Okay, Trump calls in
four thousand National Guards, seven hundred Marines really to protect
federal ice facilities, also federal agents so they can do
their job. Are they getting more violent because Trump's not

(01:20:56):
letting him get away with what they're doing? Is it
because He's pushing back that they are getting this extreme?
Because you point out in the article they they are
so fanatical now they choose crime and chaos over law
and order. They would they don't want to protect the people.

Speaker 11 (01:21:11):
No, absolutely, Then I would even argue that they never
had any intention intention of doing that. And as far
as when Trump coming, I would you see that there
has not been the level of violence, intimidation protests that
have been going on. It's kind of gone under control.

Speaker 7 (01:21:30):
Just shocker.

Speaker 11 (01:21:31):
Right, when you have law and order and you have
people law, look what happens. You know, who could have
thought that? So the fact that this went on for
so long that people were so afraid to do this,
And I don't know if it was like they were
worried about the optics or or or just political pushback
on it for some reason, as if you know, encouraging violence,

(01:21:52):
rioting and destruction is a positive thing for some.

Speaker 7 (01:21:56):
I don't know. That never made any sense to me.

Speaker 11 (01:21:58):
But you know, Trump seems to be the only one
not seeing He's the only one who's had enough to
political courage and courage in general to say enough's enough.
You know, this isn't right. They want to protest, They
could protest, you know, they just don't do it without
riding with destroying communities or burning down buildings or you know,
a salty people. So good for him cor actually having
enough gusts to stand up and prevent this from happening.

Speaker 1 (01:22:21):
Chris, thank you for thank you for the article, Thanks
for your observations. Thank you for the good work you're doing.
Keep up the good work. Keep this up because people
need to see it. Because I think the American people
are completely behind the present in terms of law and
order and beating back these riots and this violence. So
thank you for joining us on the.

Speaker 7 (01:22:37):
Show, No problem, thanks for having me.

Speaker 11 (01:22:39):
Take care.

Speaker 1 (01:22:40):
That was Christopher Tremolia with the Washington Examiner. There's a
new sheriff in town and his name is Donald Trump.
Well put okay, folks, when we come back, final segment
of the Rod and Greg Show on this Tuesday, on
my anniversary, June seventeenth, you're listening to stalk radio one
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everywhere here, but they come up. And I have had
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though I should have been hotter on this talkback message,
and it's just a quick message, but this is in
response to that congresswoman after we heard Arnold Schwarzenegger talk
about how grateful he is to have been an immigrant

(01:23:43):
to the to America and all the opportunities that it
brought him, and how sincerely grateful he is, and why
he is opposed to immigrants that would come here and
seek to break the law in any way and it's
not right. You're a guest if you're an immigrant. And
then you hear this congresswoman, Omar Ilid Omar, whatever her
name is. She's from Somalia, and she likens this country

(01:24:05):
to a dictatorship. She says it's the worst country. And
we had a listener who heard that, and I'll just
I'll just play it.

Speaker 2 (01:24:16):
This woman is a public servant. She's wrong, terribly wrong
on the stance that she takes. And to her, I say, ug.

Speaker 1 (01:24:26):
And I agree, Ugg is right. You listen to that.
That might be the best retort of all. Very very brief,
but very descriptive. And I got to tell you it.
It does track back to our last interview with Chris Tremolia,
the Washington Examiner columnist, you have for the first time,

(01:24:47):
I think it's the first time at least of modern
history where you have a politician or I wouldn't even say,
I'd say public servant, But you have a president who,
without regard to party, is not going to put up
with lawlessiness, is not going to let people be put
in danger, is not going to allow Democrats to selectively,
you know, use selective logic and a selective outrage, and

(01:25:10):
embrace political violence when it is furthering their worldview and
their cause, and then condemn political violence if it's something
that they don't approve of. I personally just I have
an easier route. I just don't support political violence. That's it.
I just don't support it. It's a pretty easy take,
and it's pretty consistent. But the left is different. They
have benefited mightily. I think I didn't bring this up

(01:25:33):
with Chris, but I think they benefited from this kind
of violence with poor Elon Musk. This man has sacrificed
for this country. He has done things to restore freedom
of speech. If we didn't have X right now, we
wouldn't even know the version of freedom of speech and
communication that we have, and they he bought that for
the twenty something billy. Whatever he spent, it wasn't worth

(01:25:54):
it near that and he knew it when he did it.
But he wanted to break this censorship that was going on.
And then he came into the presidential help President Trump
get elected. And then he induaged went in there and
found receipts and found so much incredible way stuff we
didn't even know, these NGOs that are getting federally funded,
and just the Treasury Department without purchase orders, without receipts

(01:26:15):
where they're sending the money. There was so much. And
what did the left do? They went to their playbook.
They went to violence, They went to destroying his dealerships.
And he's not there right now, so I think it
might have won. Look hands up, chinned down, eyes forward.
I want you to answer the bell and join me
next tomorrow at four pm here on the Rod and
Greg Show.

Speaker 2 (01:26:35):
Have a good night,

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