The Rod and Greg Show: Dems Shift Zero Emission Goals; Trump's Migrant Worker Pass Proposal

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Last broadcast of the week is this day, so I
was probably thinking I probably had my Friday head on,
not my Wingman Wednesday head on.

Speaker 2 (00:08):
Are you sad that you aren't doing some of the
typical huge family July fourth traditions because you're going out
of town?

Speaker 1 (00:16):
Yes, I my my my favorite holiday was always the
fourth of July. I had so many unbelievably fun traditions.
They were all destroyed, all destroyed, well, not destroyed, the ruined, no,
just ruined. And and COVID did it too, I means,
just everything. As soon as you get out of the habit,
nobody wants to go back and do the old stuff
he used to do. Everyone gets older, they become adults.

(00:38):
The kids do they're too cool to do what you
want to do. So now I got it. I'm out
here trying to figure out some new traditions. But yeah,
I'm a little sad about it. I had I had
a pretty good gig going there for a while. But yeah,
but you know what, it's time, you know, different seasons
in life. I'm just going to put a brave face on.

Speaker 3 (00:55):
You know.

Speaker 2 (00:55):
We're just like you. I mean, are our adult kids
are all married, grandkids, they were going all over the place.
It's basically my wife and I on the fourth of July.

Speaker 1 (01:02):
Man, I just used to love going to the Freedom
Festival down in Profile. I used to love it. It
was just you know, it was my go to and
then you walk around the Freedom Festival see all the stuff,
and then you have anyway, not.

Speaker 2 (01:12):
Anymore when you're they're older and they have their life.

Speaker 1 (01:15):
We're doing something, We're gonna do some else, We're gonna
do some other things.

Speaker 2 (01:17):
We'll set up some new traditions. Well, it's great to
be with you. We've got a great show today. We're
all talk with Ned Ryan. We're we'll talk about jd
Vance and what's going on with the Big Beautiful Bill.
Also a little bit later on, we'll talk with Amanda Head,
White House correspondent for Just the News on something that
Trump is working on when it comes to immigration, and
Greg and I have a theory as to what's going

(01:39):
on with this as well. So we've got a lot
to get to today, and as always, we invite you
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(01:59):
Lw of response yesterday on that because we talked about I.

Speaker 1 (02:02):
Tell you what. I want to thank our listeners for
calling in and talking about Tippy because that conversation kept going.
I got people that were messaging me. I had people
talking to me about that. It really did peak a
lot of interest and discussion amongst the people I know.
And everyone seems to agree with the callers.

Speaker 2 (02:21):
But not you.

Speaker 1 (02:22):
You. We'll give a tip to anyone who just says
the worst. Yeah, handover suckers moorn every day and there
comes Rodarquet to hand his money over.

Speaker 2 (02:32):
Here we go, Here we go. I want to start
off the show today. Uh Utah is in trouble. Greg,
Do you know why?

Speaker 1 (02:37):
Why?

Speaker 2 (02:38):
Get ready for this. It's going to shock you. Of course.
Robert F. Kennedy Jr. Is out there promoting a healthier America. Yes,
and many companies over the last several weeks have stepped
up and said we'll make some changes.

Speaker 1 (02:51):
Yes.

Speaker 2 (02:51):
One of them is on food dice. Yeah, okay, we
were talking about that the other day. Guess what that
may impact? Think about it? Think about it. Yell green jello,
what Utah is famous for is in trouble because this
change and dies from. I think it's Kraft who has

(03:14):
an out. They are going to change or do something
about the dyes, maybe eliminated. There goes the radioactive green jello.
How are we going to do?

Speaker 1 (03:22):
You know that's been more myth than reality in my life.
I know that I know a lot of people love it.
Did you ever see the people that put mayonnaise on it?

Speaker 2 (03:29):
Mayonnaise are green jellow.

Speaker 1 (03:31):
Green jellow. That's a that's a tradition.

Speaker 2 (03:33):
Who did that?

Speaker 1 (03:34):
The old school I knew whiped cream on red jello
growing up. My grandmother loved the red yellow. Never had
a green until I got to Utah. But there are
people that put may a dollup of mayonnaise on a
green jello. Yes, I know, I know that's what I'm saying.
It was never really grabbing me. But you know, but

(03:54):
now that we know that dyes are kind of not
good for you, green seems to be scary by the
way of its color.

Speaker 2 (04:00):
Well, now do you know what Mike Lee used to do?
In his office back in Washington. What every Wednesday Wednesday afternoon,
Because I've been there a couple of times he's invited
me to come by. They did green yellow shooters. Remember
that he had the green jellow kids with some whipped

(04:20):
cream on the top of it. That's the point. But
you could go in there and take a quick shot
of green yellow with whipped cream on it. I wonder
what the senator is going to do.

Speaker 1 (04:30):
Yeah, that's a dilemma. But you know what, I'm I'm ready.
I'm ready for the change. I really I had no idea. Yeah,
because it's it's a package deal. You got to go
all in. You can't just pick and choose what you
want to be more healthy on. If he's if our
case saying it's not good for us, you're all in.
You got to do it. Yep, except for red Bull.
If he tells me that's not good for me, I'm
just gonna say that's fake. I'm the leading my energy drinker.

Speaker 2 (04:53):
WHI we got today? You got a pink color one today?
A summer Is it a summer thing?

Speaker 1 (04:59):
No? You look for the summer. I couldn't find it.
So I found the pink addition and it's wild berries,
wild berries. And you know, if you've looked gone to
the comedian stories, you'll find that these energy drink companies
are giving you a a plethora of flavors to choose from,
which is all well received by me. I love them all.
I don't have a favorite. They're like kids. I don't
have a favorite. I love them all.

Speaker 2 (05:18):
I couldn't believe it when we were in Switzerland a
week or two ago and we're going into convenience stories,
say very a couple of stories? Are there?

Speaker 4 (05:25):
Thing?

Speaker 5 (05:25):
One?

Speaker 2 (05:26):
You look at it and you'd want to say co op,
but they say coop. Do get that? There's another one?
But they have these big, big coolers right filled with
drinks like red Bull, all red Bull, and especially the
younger people coming in grabbing those like you wouldn't believe.

Speaker 1 (05:40):
I hope that I helped plant those seeds when I
was there, you know, think them to a little kid,
I here have one, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (05:47):
I thank you? You did?

Speaker 4 (05:49):
All right?

Speaker 2 (05:49):
A lot to talk to. I want to get your
thoughts though, real quick. Does anyone care about Sean Diddy?

Speaker 3 (05:53):
No?

Speaker 1 (05:54):
I saw that today and a big deal. I think
they are such degenerates. I mean everything in that case,
if it's not illegal, it's disgusting and it's not worthy
to speak about out loud. I hope that whole crew
disappears and crawls under a rock somewhere, never to be
seen again. I am so uninterested in that.

Speaker 2 (06:10):
He better serve time in jail. He won't, don't. You
don't think he will.

Speaker 1 (06:14):
All the big hit I think, all the ones that
were serious enough to earn jail time, he won't. They'll
give him time served because he's been in the clink
for a while. But you know what, that's what I'm saying, Like,
I don't even care. I just don't ever want to
talk about this guy. What they what they talked about
in that trial was disgusting. It's all done. I don't
want to talk about him.

Speaker 2 (06:32):
Yeah, yeah, Well, and then the other story today, uh
Colberger up there in Idaho in Boise, he pleading guilty
to killing four people to avoid the death sentence. So
that has got to be a tough one for families.

Speaker 1 (06:44):
You and I didn't talk about this being a calling topic,
but I am so interested in what our listeners think.
You've heard from these parents of these these poor kids
that were just so brutally murdered. And some of those
parents are saying, we thought this was pretty open and shut,
and we think this guy needs had to go to
be put to his death. Yes, and we weren't. We
didn't say that we were good with this, this this

(07:06):
plea deal. How would you digest that? Would you be
upset that that he was he took the plea deal?
I mean, he didn't take a life, four consecutive life sentences,
never see the light of day the rest of his
born days, because he's innocent. He didn't do that. So
he and they did have some pretty compelling evidence I thought,
where even as he drove back to New York, they

(07:28):
were able to find evidence he was trying to destroy
back in New York. So I don't I don't know.
It does save time, it does save even the slight
risk that he could have gotten off on some you know,
on some technicality or something like that. But if you
were a parent, what would you how would you be
feeling right now?

Speaker 2 (07:43):
Well, you've got a liberal prosecutor. Yeah, okay, was there something?
Was there something in their case that they were worried
about that said we, you know, we better get this
guy to plead because if this goes to trial and jury,
will there be something in there? There's a chance you
could lose that case, which I find hard to believe.

(08:04):
I think most people do, because, as you said, there's
a preponderance of evidence against this guy. But maybe there
was something in there that we didn't know. And this
this prosecutor went to the family and said, let me,
you know, we should this the deal we should present.

Speaker 1 (08:18):
To the judge or or or is it a liberal
prosecutor who has a philosophical opposition to the death penalty
and gave him the chance to get off get away
from it.

Speaker 2 (08:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (08:29):
Like I said, I don't know. But if I was
a parent right now, I don't know that.

Speaker 2 (08:33):
I'd be good with I don't think I would.

Speaker 1 (08:36):
Yeah, I don't know that.

Speaker 2 (08:37):
I how my child and all what four of those
were brutally murdered. And apparently one theory is he's a
criminology student or he was right and he was hoping
to stage the perfect crime where no one could find
out who did it. Yep, so.

Speaker 1 (08:55):
Lunatic at anyway. I I I don't know. I that is,
there's just I just think there's a lot to unpack there.
I wonder how our listeners feel about that, that decision
to give them four consecutive life sentences. And he said, guilty,
every one of them. And he did God read off
the charges for every every victim guilty.

Speaker 2 (09:14):
Abby said, yeah, sure, she heard that in her newscasts.
All right, a lot to get to today again, And
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(09:36):
one oh five nine. All Right, will they just get
to it, Greg, the big beautiful bill? Will they just
just give it?

Speaker 6 (09:44):
With this?

Speaker 1 (09:45):
I mean, let just get it competing social media posts
that they have. They don't have the votes, they have
the votes. We're just we're bouncing around, but we'll find out.
But I'll tell you what, there's just too much good
in that bill. It's not everything, it's not great. But
if every single Democrat in Congress and in America hates it,
there's your tell yeah, okay, these are things we got

(10:07):
to get done. We cannot see the taxes go up
like they want to. We just got to get this
thing done. And anybody that wants to throw a protest vote,
join and thinks they're Republican and join all the Democrats.
You're not reading the room, You're misreading your job.

Speaker 2 (10:19):
Well, when the margins are this close, you've got to compromise.
You gotta find this the way it works. This is
the sausage being made, and hopefully we could get a
vote tonight, most likely tomorrow morning, but we could get
one tonight. Joining us on our Any hour Newsmaker line
to talk more about this is Ned Ryan ned Its,
founder CEO of American Majority. Always great to have Ned
on the show. Nan, You've been around Washington for a

(10:41):
long long time. What's your take on the big beautiful Bill.

Speaker 7 (10:44):
Well, I'm a political realist. I think at some point
Republicans in Congress are going to realize we have to
pass this for our own self preservation. And I say
that because it revolves around one issue, the tax cuts.
If you do not make Trump's tax cuts permanent, you
get a sixty to sixty eight percent tax increase which

(11:06):
might trigger a recession per Russ vote, who runs O
and B going into the midterms, and there's only one
party that could be blamed for triggering those kinds of
tax heights in a recession, and that would be the
Republican Party. And so I keep on telling people there's
a lot of good things about this bill. You know,
it's not a perfect again politics. It's not the art

(11:27):
of perfection, it's the art of the possible. I think
there are a lot of really good things about this bill,
with the tax cuts, with the border security, one hundred
and seventy five billion for border security, seven hundred and
one miles of border wall, all these things, plus one
point six trillion in mandatory savings. So I think there's

(11:49):
a lot of reasons that Republicans are going to pass this.
But I think it just boils down to self preservation,
and I think they're going to realize that and they're
going to pass it, and Trump's can be able to
sign it, and then we can move on to other things.

Speaker 1 (12:01):
So I couldn't agree more. I just think I just
they cannot. It be the most worst self inflicted wouning
this party could ever do. I'm going against the president
that we've never seen such popularity and strong leadership. So
I I'm picking up what you're putting down. I believe me.

Speaker 4 (12:17):
Look at Tom Tillis.

Speaker 7 (12:18):
Tom Yeahs made it very clear that he was going
to oppose this, and then guess what happens. Yeah, Trump
went out of his way to announce I will be
interviewing potential primary opponents, and Tom Tillis almost immediately announced
his resignation from the US Senate.

Speaker 8 (12:33):
So let's be honest.

Speaker 7 (12:34):
Not only is this good for the Republicans, they're dealing
with a very popular president, but at the same time,
there is a stick that comes with if you do
not pass this bill, there will be pain involved. And
Tom Tillis has already seen that.

Speaker 6 (12:46):
You know.

Speaker 1 (12:47):
And again someone said to me, I like the saying
that the people that got us in this mess, or
the people sitting a lot of them are sitting in
there now, they're not the best candidates to get us
out of this mess. But we do have some good
patriots in there, and those that aren't that's when hopefully
you'll see like a Tom Tillis move on and we'll
see some stronger people step up.

Speaker 7 (13:06):
So that's right, that's right, and I think there are
some actually very good candidates potential candidates in North Carolina.
And I would also remind people if you look at
some of the dynamics that have changed in North Carolina.
In twenty sixteen, there were almost six hundred and fifty
thousand more registered Democrats. As of June of twenty five,
there's only nineteen thousand more. So a lot of the

(13:28):
dynamics in North Carolina have changed so much that even
in a state that was predominantly Democrat, Trump won three times,
Tom Tillis won by almost two points last time, and
again probably what was a three to four hundred thousand
Democrat partisan registration state. So a lot of these dynamics
have changed, and I think we're going to see some
good candidates that are going to be one of them

(13:48):
is going to be the strongest candidate for Republicans, and
I think we'll hold that Senate seat.

Speaker 2 (13:52):
Ned. Let's talk about your article on JD Vans. We
have been so impressed, I think a lot of people
have with Trump's cabinet choices this time. First is the
first time around. There's some great people down there, and
certainly JD. Vans. What are your impressions about JD Vans.

Speaker 7 (14:07):
Well, I've been an early advocate for JD.

Speaker 5 (14:10):
Vans.

Speaker 7 (14:11):
I've known him since he was citizen Vance. When he
decided he was going to run for the Senate in Ohio,
I was one of those voices speaking with Trump asking
him to endorse JD in the primary. So I've been
a fan of JD's for a very long time, but
even more so because just watching him a close understanding
some of the things, the dynamics of what it really

(14:32):
takes to elevate yourself. I mean, I've told him, you know,
first of all, I think you're a great communicator. He
has been put into a situation where he either rises
to the next level or collapses, and he has risen
to the next level, and I think it's actually been
extremely impressive. What he's been able to do is I
think being one of the strongest advocates for the America
First movement outside of President Trump. And I'm very bullish

(14:55):
on JD.

Speaker 1 (14:56):
I agree with you that whole the concept you just
shared rising to the next level, it's his whole story.
It's the circumstances he was born in and fast forward
till today. I've heard a lot of people that are
very articulate or great orators. They can really answer questions well,
frame issues. Well, there's something different about JD. Vance. I
don't know if it's his age, I don't know what
it is, empathy. I can't put my finger on it,

(15:17):
but there is something I sense that is very different
about the way he communicates. Do you have any idea
can you put your finger on what it is about JD.
Vance that does give him that kind of that X factor.

Speaker 7 (15:27):
I think he is a First of all, he's very scrappy.
I mean remember the Oval Office situation Zelenski where he
was more than had it again and Doslowinsky's grill. But
at the same time, JD's a very deep thinker. He's
very thoughtful, and I tell you what, I think one
of the best speeches I've seen this year. Of course,
Trump's given some great ones. JD's speech at the Munich

(15:49):
Security Conference in February, yes, in which for the for
about twenty minutes, he very thoughtfully and very forcefully laid
out to the people in the crowd, various European leaders
the concepts of freedom of speech and freedom of thought
and basic human rights. I thought it was a brilliant speech,
So you ask, I think it's a combination of him
being scrappy at the same time being thoughtful, and he

(16:10):
knows how to have a perfect combination of that. So
I love where I will say this. I think twenty eight,
twenty six is going to be a huge test for JD.
And the reason I say that they've made him the
R and C Finance Chair and he is going to
be in many ways. Obviously Trump is as well, but
JD's going to play a central role in how successful
he is in twenty six to helping Republicans keep the House.

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I think the Senate is going to be a much
easier fight. It's not guaranteed, but it'll be easier than
the House if JD can rise to dedication. I think
he's the odds on favorite to be the nominee in
twenty eight.

Speaker 2 (16:43):
Final question for you. I know your time is tight,
so we always appreciate it and are really grateful for
you coming on the show. Final question for you, I
get a sense that Donald Trump has a lot of
trust in JD. Evans fair to say.

Speaker 7 (16:55):
I think that's very fair to say, and I just
want to go back to your original point he his
cab this time around, has I think been incredible. I mean,
Scott Beston to me, just an incredible pick, and I
had doubts at the beginning, and I'm thinking, holy cal
that was probably one of his best cabinet picks. And
then you've got JD. And so you've got this incredible

(17:16):
team of real talent who are are good thinkers, deep thinkers,
who are very good communicators. I love what Trump has done.
So yeah, I mean I think JD continues to prove
himself to Donald Trump, which again I mean it's one
of those things he's going to have to continue to
do that. But I think in this whole Iran situation,

(17:36):
again that was the theme of my article, I think
he did an excellent job of communicating what I thought
was the right approach, approaching tone for America. First of like,
this is what we have to be doing. It's okay,
we're not talking about nation building, we're not talking about
Iraq or Afghanistan. But there is a certain point where
we have to be very realistic about how the world works.
So I think I definitely think he's got a huge

(17:58):
amount of capital with TU and I'm looking forward to
seeing where he goes again, twenty six is going to
be a huge test. If he passes that test, we
might be looking at, you know, potentially President number forty eight.

Speaker 2 (18:11):
Founder of Vance. Sorry JD. Sorry Ned, we're talking about JD.
Ned Ryan, founder and CEO of American Majority and Greg,
you and I I have been impressed. I know you
have as well. With Trump's cabinet, I mean, Bond Best
and Rubio, you name him. They've done a great job.

Speaker 1 (18:28):
And this Vice president I think, you know, for whatever
Pence was worth when in the first turn, Boy, if
we ever traded up getting JD. Vance right now, this
guy is he is made for this right now?

Speaker 2 (18:39):
All right? More coming up on the Rod and Greg
Show and wing Man Wednesday on Talk Radio one oh
five nine knrs. Just think about next year, two d
and fifty years old? Next year?

Speaker 1 (18:47):
Are we going to be live on location? Are we
going to be somewhere more?

Speaker 2 (18:50):
Do you want to be?

Speaker 1 (18:51):
I don't know, Philadelphia, DC? We should be somewhere of
celebrating America's birthday. I mean, it's what the show's all about.
I'm fighting for this great country of ours.

Speaker 2 (19:00):
All work, I'll work on it. How's that saying? I
talked to corporate. Well, we'll talk to corporate. Maybe it's
from the White House. Maybe maybe maybe the trumpeter will
swing by. You know what, I'd be busy.

Speaker 1 (19:10):
I've always wanted I've always wanted to broadcast from mar
A Lago, but I do it from Alligator Alcatraz.

Speaker 2 (19:15):
Oh, I know you.

Speaker 1 (19:15):
I'm so I'm so fast.

Speaker 2 (19:17):
That's pretty amazing. Utah's taking some major steps, Craig. You
know you have better handle on this than do I.
When it comes to nuclear energy, I mean, we're we're
settling up some things that could really benefit the state.

Speaker 1 (19:29):
Right we are. Yeah, when I say we the state
leaders have identified the need for power. But there's a
there's an emerging economy out there, and Utah's well poised
to uh degenerate that power.

Speaker 2 (19:41):
Well, what's so interesting now is that blue states like
California and New York are starting to realize, you know,
that wind and solar stuff it may not be enough
for us. And joining us on our newsmaker line right
now to talk more about it is Kevin Keelo. Kevin
is an energy reporter at Just the News. Kevin, thanks
for joining us. What is happening around the country with
these Blue states talking about nuclear power.

Speaker 8 (20:02):
Well, thanks again for having me, it's great to talk
to you. And what I'm seeing is, you know, basically,
these blue states set up these net zero goals, and
often they passed the laws and then they were like, well,
how are we going to make this work? Like New
York passed their Climate Act. A couple of years later,
they developed a scoping plan to figure out how to

(20:25):
make their Climate Act actually a success, which looks at
trying to reach emissions by eighty five percent below nineteen
ninety levels by twenty fifty. And the plan was going
to get rid of cole and shut down like some
twenty gigwatts of natural gas fired power plants, and then

(20:46):
they were going to replace it with what's called dispatchable
emissions free resources these and no one knew what these were.
They don't know what they are. They're entirely theoretical. It
seemed like they just kind of hoped the technology materialize somehow.
So so basically what's happened is, you know, they're looking
at this climate plan after just four years ago. You know,

(21:09):
they shut down the Indian Point Power nuclear power plant,
they dismantle it, and then their emissions go up, so
they're looking at, you know, without some kind of other
dispatchable emissions free resource, we're not going to reach our
climate goals. So you know, the political empetus between behind
shutting down Indian Point is still there. But Hopel is

(21:32):
in the position of, well, we're either going to fail
at climate or we're going to have to figure something
else out. And of course keeping natural gas plants open
is not politically tenable. But maybe I can float this
nuclear thing. So I think that's kind of what's going on.
She put out this announcement that she directed a state
agency to consider the feasibility to look at the feasibility

(21:55):
of building a nuclear power plant somewhere in upstate New York.
And similar thing kind of happened in California. They were
going to shut down their only nuclear power plant, Yablo
Canyon this year and back in twenty twenty they have
these rolling blackouts during the summer, and so California Governor

(22:17):
Gavin Newsom in twenty twenty two he works with the
state legislature to keep that plan open and it's now
going to be open for twenty years. But when he
announced the success of that negotiation with the legislature. He
didn't like say, now we've got this source of clean, affordable,
reliable energy so that we can meet our energy needs. Instead,

(22:37):
his announcement was, well, because of climate change, everybody's using
so much air conditioning.

Speaker 4 (22:42):
So you know, we got to do this nuclear thing.

Speaker 1 (22:47):
Kevin, Everything about environmentalist policy is a ready fire aim process.
As far as I'm concerned. It's never it's never sustainable,
it never works out. You end up getting worse with
anything you've implemented. Not a new concept, but this idea
that AI could could potentially need as much of the
energy grid we currently create right now just for AI

(23:09):
alone by twenty thirty, which isn't that far off. You've
got Microsoft that's acquired three Mile Island. All the arguments
against nuclear should still be the same. What do you
do with the waste? How do you safely address the
waste that's created? What have they done with those arguments?
The left in the climate control people that they used

(23:30):
to criticize a nuclear power for, what have they done
with that?

Speaker 8 (23:33):
Well, they haven't done much, you know, and that's going
to be a real point. That's going to be a
real point when you know this comes up like I said,
the impetus behind closing Indian Point, New York. It's still there.
So what is the climate lobby going to do? I'm sorry,
the nuclear anti nuclear lobby. What is it going to do?

(23:54):
You know, as efforts are made to try and place
more nuclear on the grid, and so you know, it's
going to put Newsome and Hopeful in the position there
already is of them trying to explain to them that
actually nuclear waste while you know, you know, it's not
a massive problem that they make it out to be.

(24:15):
It's actually you could store it to all the nuclear
waste produced by all the new nuclear power plants since
the industry was created on a football field and I
think it'd be like twenty feet high. And you know,
this is a problem that's manageable. And of course the
nuclear anticular people they'll say, Chernobyl, Chernobyl, Well, Chernobyl is

(24:37):
what happened to commis do nuclear energy? But you know, yeah,
they're going to have to actually start speaking against the
anti nuclear lobby. So the question is how well is
that going to go over with the public. That remains
to be seen.

Speaker 2 (24:51):
Yeah, sure does it Kevin? What about? I mean, this
is not going to happen overnight. We're looking long term,
are we not. I mean, we can't just turn to
nuclear power right away. We've got a ways to go
before this even starts putting some energy on the grid, right.

Speaker 8 (25:05):
Oh, that's the other issue is like, well, it's great
that they're you know, warming up to nuclear, but then
there's the timeline. So in California they have this long
interconnection to you where they have all these solar projects
they're trying to get on the grid, but they don't
have the transmission to support it. So Newsom might be
kind of thinking, well, hopefully over twenty years, we'll get
more of that on the grid and that will allow

(25:26):
us to shut down the Oblo Canyon. He'll be you know,
wherever he is by that point, hopefully not in the
White House, but Hoko. On the other hand, Yeah, you's
looking at twenty fifty. I mean, you know, at least
before that's on the grid. So what are they going
to do between now and then, Because the plan is
to shut down the natural gas plants well before that,
so they're going to have to come up against that,

(25:49):
even with good permitting reform. Of course, a lot of
the problem is that permitting takes so long. Even if
we have good permitting reform, it's still going to take
a long time to engineer and design and permit these plans.
You know, you're still looking at a good scenario fifteen
to twenty years, So that's going to be a problem
for sure.

Speaker 1 (26:06):
So this is this is what's amazing. In Europe, they
destroy all their ability to generate power. You see, as
you've described in New York and other places, they're destroying
their power generation, getting rid of coal fired power plants
and even natural gas, which is a very low emission.
So that's all going on. In Utah, they wanted us
to get rid of our power generation and the fundamental

(26:28):
question was asked, do we have its replacement ready to go?
And they said, well no, not yet. Well, then come
back to us when we have something that would that
can put out the energy if we're going to take
it down. That process hasn't been followed. You just described
a very long process for nuclear. Are they going to
have to are the left left is going to have
to come back to coal and to you know, to

(26:48):
fossil fuel energy generation out of necessity.

Speaker 8 (26:53):
Well, consider what's happening in California. You know, their refineries
are shutting down despite they were warned, hey, if you
pass the regulations, they're going to harm them. They're gonna
shut down. They're shutting down, and they're like oops, you know,
they're really oops. They're not reconsidering their their climate position.

(27:13):
So so the question is how far are they going
to go to harm their economies before they say, you know,
maybe we need to rethink this whole climate thing. Real
hard to predict how far they're going to push it,
but yeah, they're they're going to have to come to
terms with, well, we can either destroy our economy or
we can have fossil fuels. But the option to do both,

(27:34):
to keep fossil fuel, to get rid of fossil fuels
and keep our economy just isn't going to be there on.

Speaker 2 (27:39):
Our any our newsmaker line Kevin Keiloh, of course, he's
with just the news talking about nuclear energy here in
the States. All right, much more to come on the
Wingman Wednesday edition of The Rotting Greg Show. Now, this
is the story, Greg. Have you heard anybody report this
yet today? I mean, that's pretty amazing if you think
about it. The US has now collected more than one

(28:00):
hundred billion dollars in custom revenue since President Trump took office.
Why because of the tariffs.

Speaker 1 (28:07):
Tariffs. I have heard that.

Speaker 2 (28:09):
One hundred billion dollars.

Speaker 1 (28:11):
Nobody wants to admit it. I'm certainly not economists and
all the experts they don't want to talk about it.
But yeah, and these deals that he's making, even the
one with Vietnam today twenty percent tariff and there and
Vietnam is saying thank you.

Speaker 2 (28:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (28:22):
And by the way, you get America. You can send
anything you want over to Vietnam with a zero tariff.
If you'd like to enter into that market and produce
and find yourself some entrepreneurial opportunities, you can do that
as well.

Speaker 2 (28:34):
Eighty one and a half billion of that one hundred
billion comes from tariffs in post since January twentieth. He
said this would happen here. It is. But do you
hear anybody talking about it? No other than you and.

Speaker 1 (28:46):
I No, you don't. In fact, you know this this
goes kind of segues into maybe we'll talk about the
next hour this Jerome, you know Powell, I mean, the
President's had it. Yeah, he's got some choice words for
Jerome Powell.

Speaker 2 (28:59):
You sure to. We'll talk about that and we'll let
you hear what mister Trump had they say coming up next,
going the Rotten Great Show, stay with us. I feel
guilty when I do this, but I think I need
to share with the audience.

Speaker 1 (29:12):
Oh my goodness, don't.

Speaker 2 (29:13):
I think I need to share with the audience. Just
how weird you are?

Speaker 1 (29:17):
Well, how quiet it's going to get here during commercial breaks?
If you keep doing this to me.

Speaker 2 (29:21):
Well you're gonna tell me anything. I'm not gonna you
don't want me to share this story because it is
a great story. No, you know, because you brought up
on the air. Let me let me stuck here. Now
we have to do so. Let me put it this way.
You fit? Who is it? P. T. Barnum said there's
a sucker born every mine.

Speaker 1 (29:40):
I just said that about you, Tip, No, no trying you.

Speaker 2 (29:44):
You are one of those suckers that are born everything.
You are such a pulsive buyer.

Speaker 1 (29:48):
I am not a sucker.

Speaker 2 (29:49):
You are marketers. Dream There are.

Speaker 1 (29:51):
Things that intrigue me that I like that I see,
I think I like it, and then I go and
I buy it if I if I want to.

Speaker 2 (29:58):
I think we should ask the audience if they like
to know what the weird, weirdest thing you've just done?

Speaker 1 (30:02):
You are? Just you know this is I'm like, you
know what, I know what this is, folks. I know
I'm not talking to you. I'm talking to our listeners, folks.
You know in the Peanuts, you know Charlie Brown, you
know how Lucy keeps putting the football there and he
keeps thinking he's gonna kick it, and every every single
and she says, just kick the football. Every time he
goes to kick it, she moves it and he misses it. Yes, this,

(30:25):
I don't know how I even get into these conversations
with you and the commercial break because he wants to
knark me out on just this conversation. It's just just
small talks. It has nothing to do with that you
were talking about in the show.

Speaker 2 (30:38):
It just tells our audience how weird you are. At
times it's not weird, come on, admit it even has
said you're weird, So.

Speaker 1 (30:47):
You know what. Yeah, these just how we're talking now
is putting her in a panic. I hope she's not listening.
But like, what did you say now? She asked. She
said to me, you know he's not your priest. He's
not your ecclesiastical leader. Why do you just keep run
out all this details to him? I'm making small talk.
I don't even know how I got on the topic.

Speaker 2 (31:04):
Oh I know how you did. You just brought it
up because you told me about it.

Speaker 1 (31:11):
I know, but it doesn't give you. You're just labermount there.

Speaker 2 (31:15):
There are no there are no secrets in this room.

Speaker 1 (31:18):
You know, there are relief societies and women that can't
gossip as fast and as quick as UK. You are
more efficient than all the gossipy communication trees in every neighborhood.

Speaker 2 (31:29):
Yeah, okay, you're the worst. What do we want to
talk about this hour?

Speaker 4 (31:32):
Well?

Speaker 1 (31:33):
I think I had a great.

Speaker 2 (31:34):
Topic, but apparently you don't want me to talk about it,
so we'll move on to something more important.

Speaker 1 (31:39):
Yeah, that's that's not even a topic that just came up.
That's spontaneous, folks. I don't know if you heard, But
I don't know if you know about our president. But
he's not a big Jerome Powell fan. The chair.

Speaker 2 (31:52):
I would like to see him leave.

Speaker 1 (31:54):
I think he's going to fire him at some point
if he can. He was on he was a board
Air Force one earlier today, and he was asked about uh,
Jerome Powell, and I thought that he had some choice
words to express about him. Would you like to hear them?

Speaker 2 (32:10):
Sure?

Speaker 1 (32:10):
Are you ready?

Speaker 5 (32:10):
Yes?

Speaker 1 (32:11):
Okay? No, inflation, our country is strong.

Speaker 2 (32:15):
Our interest rate should be three points slower.

Speaker 3 (32:17):
If our interest rate was three points slow, that's almost
a trillion dollars in costs.

Speaker 2 (32:22):
And it's just by the.

Speaker 9 (32:23):
Signing of event.

Speaker 5 (32:24):
But we have a moron at the head of the
pet He's a moron.

Speaker 2 (32:27):
Speaking of his nickname, novelge, the tough that.

Speaker 5 (32:31):
I do I have?

Speaker 2 (32:32):
I have two a three top choices. Actually no, he
almost got me that.

Speaker 1 (32:39):
They asked him, who is who? Who? He has two
or three top choices?

Speaker 6 (32:42):
Who?

Speaker 1 (32:42):
Who is it?

Speaker 5 (32:43):
He is?

Speaker 10 (32:43):
Is it?

Speaker 5 (32:43):
Now?

Speaker 1 (32:43):
I want I'll tell you what got me there?

Speaker 2 (32:45):
I wonder what he thinks of Jerome Pewell. Apparently he
thinks he's a moron.

Speaker 1 (32:48):
Thinks he's a moron. I love it. I love it.
I what I love I don't you know. I don't
love it per se, but I love the candor because
this this, you know, Jerome Powell is fed chair. He
he lowered interest rates before the election when Obama, when
Biden was president. The economic indicators back then, I don't
think they looked remotely as healthy as they look now.

(33:11):
All of the doom and gloom that was promised to
arrive due to the negotiation of trade deals around the
world has not resulted in the inflation that they said
it would. You're seeing, like you pointed out in the
last segment, a hundred billion plus and revenue tariff the

(33:31):
daylights out of us. And we never applied any tariffs
on our side. It was never a two way street.
Streets getting to be two way now and anyway. So
there's a lot there you're hearing now from even financial
institutions and others that are now just shaking their heads
about chairman fed, chair Palgan. You know what, it is
actually not reasonable.

Speaker 2 (33:50):
And during Biden didn't he help Biden did?

Speaker 1 (33:54):
Course he did. And if you look at how many
nations and their financial you know that, however they said
their rates, these countries are all lowering their rates. We're
down at the very bottom of the four to five
last countries in the world, and the like we're the companies,
not bigger countries either, they're kind of small countries that
have not touched rates yet. Yeah, and it's just it's

(34:14):
at this point it doesn't feel like he's being conservative
or he's being careful. It sounds like he's he's being vindictive,
he's being political.

Speaker 2 (34:23):
Yeah, so well that's right because Trump has attacked him,
called him a moron.

Speaker 1 (34:27):
Yeah, well, he's just going to show him, isn't he
He will?

Speaker 2 (34:31):
All right, the House, we could get a vote tonight
on the one big beautiful bill. Not certain of it,
but we could get a vote tonight on the one
big beautiful bill. Now, a lot of people, you know,
you hear you hear the Democrats out there saying, you know,
millions are going to lose Medicaid and all these stories.
But there have been some list developments to what this contains. Greg,

(34:54):
and I want to go through this. We can go
through this as well, the Medicaid issue. Greg, Remember, wasn't
it Clinton along working with nude Gingridge, Yes, who said glad,
we're going to do that. So that's one of the requirements.
All it does is basically, say, a work requirement for
abled bodied Americans who receive tax payer funded benefits, you

(35:16):
have to try and work.

Speaker 1 (35:18):
And here's the here's the rub. It was already the case,
but they're going to enforce it. It was not being enforced.
There's a lot of things in the Medicaid expansion that
we're not being enforced. And now they're going to enforce
it and end the abuse. This isn't a new rule.
This is ending the abuse of the existing law, ending
that abuse because it was never intended for able bodied
adults that can work that just don't want to. So

(35:41):
getting that they don't, they're not they're not rightfully entitled
to this medical care. So they're cleaning that up, making
sure those rules stay strict. But there's a there's a
Wall Street Journal editorial by Phil Graham where he was,
you know, he was a Republican leader in Congress with
new King Rich and when Clinton was president and they

(36:03):
saw Bill Clinton signed into law a thirty hour work
requirement for TANAF which is the Temporary Assistance for Needy
Families program, thirty hours and if you had two able
bodied parents, you had to have thirty five hours. This
is twenty hours. This is just twenty hours. This is
this is you know, this is a week a week,
This is week. This is this is twenty hours. Is

(36:25):
not a draconian deal, and you these Democrats are saying
they're just gonna raw people of their health care work.
If you're an able bodied and if you're an illegal immigrant,
you weren't. You weren't entitled to it in the first place.
So they keep telling you the s guy's following, they're
telling you that everyone's health care is going to get
ripped away. You have to embrace fraud. To accept that
premise from the Democrats, you have to say that the

(36:47):
fraud is defensible. It's not. It isn't it with the
with the with the deficits we're running. If you want
those programs to stay real and doing what they're supposed
to do, you got to get the fraudsters out.

Speaker 2 (36:59):
Here's where I gets upset. Greig and we were talking
about this during one of the breaks. It always seems
like a discussion of Medicaid. The Democrats are right now
own the narrative. Would you agree? I think they own
the narrative. They are succeeding in scaring the American people
into this, and I believe this where the Republicans constantly fail.

(37:21):
They always seem to be on the defensive. And why
they aren't selling this as to why this should be done.
I do not understand because the Democrats are on the
on the offense on this. People are panicking, what's the number?
Eleven million, fourteen million people are going to lose Medicaid
coverage that is, and it may be, but they're all illegal,

(37:41):
or they're abusing the system, they're fraudts correct, and that's
what the story needs to be told by. The Republicans
just can't seem to tell it.

Speaker 1 (37:51):
No, they can't. And here's the thing. You take those
that are organized and there's a lot of organized leftist
groups out there that are just blowing up the phones
in Washington. They're trying to tell people that this is
going to harm people, that's going to rob them of
their health care, they're going to be they're going to die,
all of these things. And then you have the conservative
fiscal can so called fiscal conservatives, who join the chorus

(38:13):
of booze to say they don't like the bill either.
So you've got a two front war. You've got the
Tom Massey types that that perfect will always be the
enemy of good if it's not ever, this is a
guy who doesn't understand the math of a legislative body.
You need, you need numbers. It takes a certain number
to pass out of a committee, a certain number to

(38:34):
pass off the floor. If you think the status quo
is better than what you're trying to vote for, than
vote against it. But I don't know how in the
world anyone could tell me that, you know, not seeing
the largest tax increase in American history, in the trillions
on everybody, isn't worth voting to prevent. I don't know
how you don't vote for the tax on tips. No
tax on tips, no tax on overtime, no tax on

(38:56):
Social Security, no tax on made in America auto loans.
I didn't even know that one. There is so much
in this bill it is Is it cutting enough? Of
course it's not. But again you got to get to
the math. And Thomas Massey, he should just quick congress,
give speeches and write books, and you can be a
caucus of one when that's what you want to do.

Speaker 2 (39:16):
That's true. All right, We've got a lot more to
say on this. We get your phone calls on this
as well. Eight eight eight five seven O eight zero
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to be able to do that. More coming up. I

(39:37):
have not knarked you out yet. I'm not going to share.

Speaker 1 (39:40):
Now you get my phone buzzing.

Speaker 2 (39:42):
I'm not going to share another chapter in the I
Am Weird as Hell Greg Hughes book.

Speaker 1 (39:47):
I'm just it's such an overstatement to share that.

Speaker 2 (39:50):
All right, let's go to the phones. We talk about that.
Let's go to the phones here from Dave tonight and
late and Dave, how are you welcome to the show?

Speaker 9 (40:02):
Thank you, gentlemen. Hey, I just want to do calling
in and give my two cents on the big beautiful bill. Finally,
we have one of the greatest presidents in the history
of this country that has actually passed a bill that
will actually benefit us, we the people, and you've got
morons out there trying to go against it. This is

(40:24):
one of the most purest bills the Republican Party has
ever passed. That they need to pass it, and anybody
who can't get on board with it, they need to
get another line of work and get out of politics
or get in line with Trump.

Speaker 4 (40:38):
That's what I've got to say.

Speaker 2 (40:39):
Gentlemen, Oh, thank you.

Speaker 1 (40:40):
Javis on point. He's absolutely on point. This is the
taxes that would go up is just devastating if you
do not make the Trump tax cuts permanent, and then
you have tax cuts on top of that, no tax
on tips, on overtime, on social security. You have one
hundred and fifty billion dollars to secure the border and

(41:01):
the deported illegal aliens. You've got ten thousand new ice agents,
five thousand customer customs officers, three thousand Border patrol agents
in this bill. It funds the Golden Dome missile defense
system to confront you know, the threats that are coming.
You know, we're more worried about drones and different things
like that going into the future. It's looking to upgrade
those things.

Speaker 3 (41:22):
Ye.

Speaker 1 (41:24):
Anyway, I have a list in front of me, and
I could go on about all the things that this
does provide. But I but I, the caller, is exactly right.
This actually, this bill is on our side. This isn't
a green new deal. This isn't another giveaway in another
entitlement that the Democrats only know how to do. And
if it's not, it doesn't cut enough. I agree. We've

(41:45):
had members of our Utah delegation on that want to
cut more and are ready to do it if the
bill doesn't do it. Now you don't say no to
all the progress that that's in this thing.

Speaker 2 (41:54):
I just you know again, well you know Greg in
the House right now, in both the House and Center,
really the House right now, the margins are very slim.
I mean, what have we got three four vote advantage
in the US House right now? When the margins are thin.
You have to cut deals. You have to get what
you can get and be able to move on and
then say we're going to come back. We'll do something different.

(42:15):
But let's get this in place. And I think the
number one reason extending the tax plan. You've got to
extend that tax plan. But here are a few other
things it increases. I like this endowment tax on large universities.
The Senate version a rate of eight percent, a House
twenty one percent. I would have preferred the House. But
listen to that cancels Biden's illegal, unfair student loan bailouts. Yes, duh,

(42:41):
it does that require states to pay a higher match
for food stamps and strengthen work requirements. We're all in
favor of that ens requirement. That Venmo and PayPal and
others report transactions over six hundred dollars. That's done away
with increases timber sales on federal lands.

Speaker 1 (43:00):
I mean that would be a that'd be so good
for Utah.

Speaker 2 (43:02):
That'd be good for Utah. So all these people out
there who are complaining about this, yeah, I mean, none
of us love it. I don't I would like to
see deeper cuts. But let's take what we can get
right now and then and you made some good points.
We're getting your elect reelection time twenty twenty six. It's
just around the corner, believe it or not, and it

(43:23):
all be I think it begins in earnest in the
fall of this year.

Speaker 1 (43:27):
Yeah, well, the fundraisings happen, really ramp up.

Speaker 2 (43:31):
It will ramp up now. So get this done because
if we don't get it done now, and you know
the deadline, if it takes a day or two, but
wouldn't it be nice to give what the president wants?
And seventy seven million Americans gave this guy a chance
to get what he wants and give it to him
on the fourth of July.

Speaker 1 (43:47):
Hard not hard votes don't get easier the closer you
get to the midterms. Let me tell you that the
election cycle for midterms begins, money begins to be spent.
So raise what you can now because the midterm election
cycle begins January one pretty early, but that's when it begins.
When you get into that election cycle and you're into
the twenty twenty six year, you can forget about any

(44:07):
member of Congress from any party making votes of courage
at that point because now the fear seeps in. Now
they do want to hear okay, and then you're making
decisions out of fear. It's why you don't negotiate with terrorists,
and you certainly don't ask to pass a bill of
this kind of importance in an election cycle during the
mid terms because it won't happen. You think it's hard
to do. Now, get into that, get into twenty twenty

(44:28):
six and tell me how that feels. So you have
and you have the greatest caret It's a sad one.
I wish it wasn't the case. But when you have
Congress that's going to miss its Fourth of July holiday
for its parades and their districts and their families and
whatever they have planned, and then you have an August
entire month recess. Those two things in peril. These members
of Congress actually get a little more serious and pass

(44:49):
things that under normal circumstances, there's no sense of urgency
that the timing of that is also absolutely critical. And
again that's why Obamacare passed on Christmas Eve. They were
gonna they were they were going to hold them without
Christmas if they din't passed that thing all Democrat votes.
But on Christmas Eve they had to get Obamacare passed.
This is the July fourth holiday, and then you have

(45:10):
the August recess, and the word is that they're not
leaving Congress until they pass the bills.

Speaker 2 (45:16):
Right now, don't let them leave, yes, just don't let
them leave. All right. We've got more of your calls,
more your comments coming up on the Wingman Wednesday edition
of The Rod and Greg Show and Talk Radio one
O five nine k n RS. Some storms moving through
the valley right now. We just got dumped on a
lot of rain here in our studios out near the
Maverick Center. Question is great. I didn't even this was announced.

(45:37):
I think when I was on vacation a week or
two ago. What's going to happen to the Maverick Center
because the hockey team is going right, they're they're.

Speaker 1 (45:45):
Looking to leave. Yeah, well it's a great venue for
concerts and they have other you know, they have other
things there. They'll just keep running it out for those events.

Speaker 2 (45:54):
Okay. Yeah, and the Grizzlies kind of had to go.

Speaker 1 (45:57):
Well it wasn't yeah, it was now that you have
any hockey, it's just there's just not it's not a
product that you'd go see now if you can, you know,
if you're following the Yeah, it's like when I grew
up in Pittsburgh, we watched the Penguins and the Wilkesboro,
Pennsylvania had the Baby Pens. You would never go watch
the baby Pens, the Big Pens, the Penguins. So it's
just kind of it's you know, it's not their fault,

(46:18):
but you know it's uh, it's times of change.

Speaker 2 (46:21):
We're taking your calls right now on the Big Beautiful Bill.
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(46:41):
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all right. One of the issues Greg and I think
this is so important. Donald Trump, without any new laws,
just people who know what to do and how to

(47:01):
do it, has basically sealed up the border amazing. You know,
he has done an amazing job. And in the one big,
big beautiful bill is more money to finally complete the wall,
which we would like to see happen, plus more people
involved in making sure that our borders are safe. Now,
the impact that illegal immigration has had on this country,

(47:24):
the American people are fed up with it. Earlier today,
Kelly and Conway, she was on Fox News, I think
was on the Fox Near Focus, talked about the impact
and what the illegal immigration has done to this country.

Speaker 11 (47:36):
Let's what she said to the survey in New Jersey. Actually,
and I was really struck by the immigration question we asked,
you know what is the greatest harm from illegal immigration
in the state, and by far and above, it was
the resource question, Harris. And you're taken away from law enforcement,
from hospitals, from schools, from just everything. And so people

(47:58):
see that now they know that they are paying for
this on top of the odious nature of it all,
and now we're paying for it our kids. Classrooms are crowded,
people are there getting wellness visits while you're there with
two forms of insurance from you and your spouse, and
yet your kid is waiting four hours to be seen
for a broken bone. People feel it, and our law
enforcement locally are saying, wow, it's a depression of resources

(48:21):
in a way where we just can't sustain it. So
people know it.

Speaker 2 (48:26):
I mean, you know, she laid it out, and that's
what everybody in America has been saying, greg but no
one would listen to it. Impact on hospitals, on schools,
you can run down the list that Kelly and Conway
just spoke about the impact of illegal immigration in this country.
It's burden this country. The American people are very fair,
very giving people, but you can only push the American

(48:47):
people so far. And I think that's what Biden did,
and that's why I think Donald Trump was reelected.

Speaker 1 (48:51):
One of the reasons, you know, it started back when
when Roney lost the twenty twelve race to Obama, and
the Republicans want to do, you know, a post mortem
of why they lost the race, and they came up
with this insane conclusion that it was because they were
too opposed to illegal immigration, that they need to open
those borders and do all of these things. And then President,
then candidate Donald Trump came along and said no, no, no,

(49:13):
and he said out loud what everybody was feeling, what
was just expressed by Kelly and Conway, and that is
it is the resources that are taken. It is how
we are left to feel and the circumstances we find
ourselves in because there's lawlessness and because there's laws that
haven't been followed, and what the consequence of that is.
That's why he won, and it's also why when you

(49:34):
fast forward to this last election, he's winning a majority.
People could not even fathom that this could be the
case because he was mister racist and everything else. He
got a majority of Hispanic men votes. He has completely
closed the minority gap that Democrats used to enjoy double
digits thirty fifty sixty percent advantages against the Republican candidate.

(49:57):
He has closed those gaps and is now even winning
amongst Hispanic voters on an issue that the Democrats thought
were was going to be their issue and the issue,
and he just spoke the truth. He spoke to the
things that were just expressed. And I think that's the
common sense and just the we just want someone to
talk straight. And I think you've gotten it with Trump,
and that's why you're seeing the victory, the political wins

(50:20):
that you're seeing.

Speaker 2 (50:20):
All right, your calls and comments on the big beautiful
bill eight eight eight five seven eight zero one zero
on your cell phone al pound two to fifteen and
say hey Rod or on our talk line. Let's go
to Mark, who's listening in West Point tonight here on
the Rodden Gregg Show. Hi, Mark, how are you welcome?

Speaker 5 (50:36):
Thank you very much, good evening, Gill that tonight. The
problem is how many pages was that bill?

Speaker 2 (50:43):
I think it's about a little over nine hundred pages
from what I understand, arek okay, So.

Speaker 5 (50:48):
Nobody none of us, any of us spread it. So
each side is only giving the topics that support our side.
I guarantee that the guards are eyeing on their side,
but we're only giving the sides on the Republican side
that is benefit us. It's hard for us to have
an opinion on a bill that nobody's spreads.

Speaker 1 (51:11):
Yeah, I think AI helps with that a little bit more.
I think that you can actually get I think you
cat I agree with you in terms of you know,
Nancy Pelosi's you know, vote for it and then you'll
find out what's inside of it is anathema to us.
We can't have it. I think there are some critical
issues or points in here that you can disagree on
the points, and it is true that Republicans arena bring

(51:32):
up the points they like Democrats and points that they
don't like or that they are opposed to. But I
do think that in the absence of reading nine hundred pages,
of which he's right, we haven't done, you do need
to know specifically some of the important points that are
worth your support or your opposition. And I think that
there is especially in twenty twenty five where there's so

(51:53):
with AI and even all the people talking and social
media getting communication as high as it is on real issues.
I do think we have a better idea of what
this bill does and doesn't do then we have bills
in the past.

Speaker 2 (52:05):
If you're a lawmaker in the House or the Senate,
you get a bill like this, it's still fluid. I mean,
it's not set in stone yet. But as a lawmaker
with your staffer, you're saying, you read this section, you
read this section, you read this section, and then give
me the highlights, give me the talking points. Is that
the way you see it working, Greg, Because I don't
know how they would have time to read done under page.

Speaker 1 (52:25):
And I know that Cenator Lee is very strict about that.
He wants to be able to read the whole bill,
and he does it quickly. But I do think you'd
have to give staffers portions of it to really to
read and to be able to give you their take.
I think again, AI is now starting to help digest
that information very quickly and give you the points in
the bill that you know that are that are really

(52:45):
really relevant. Here's the thing. Even the House that passed,
even the version that passed the House, nobody knew there
was that ten year moratorium on any state having any
legislation dealing with AI. And that was something nobody knew
was even in that House bill, and that was thankfully
taking out in the Senate side. But I saw quotes
from House members saying, if I knew that was in there,

(53:05):
I would have really wanted to get that out. So
you can get things snuck in, you know, through the
you know, under the radar. But I do think that
there is all attention is on this bill right now,
and I think we are getting the salient facts or
the most important parts out there.

Speaker 2 (53:19):
Oh so, all right, more coming up new your calls
eighty eight eight five, seven oh eight zero one zero,
or on your cell phone, I'll pound two to fifty
and say, hey, Rod Moore coming up on the Rotten
Gregg Show. Sorry, let's go back to the phones talking
about whatever is on your mind. Tonight we begin and
logan with Dave. Dave, how are you welcome to the
Rod and Gregg Show. Thanks for joining us.

Speaker 10 (53:38):
I'm doing great, Rod, Thanks for taking my call. I
came in late to the conversation just a little while ago,
but I was wondering if I heard that Congressman Andrew
Clyde from Georgia is trying to reinsert the hearing protection Act,

(53:58):
which deals with sound suppressed on guns, and also the
Short Act, which has to do with short barreled rifles,
taking those off the National Firearms Act list that is taxed.
They've agreed to stop the tax, but they are still
continuing the registry and he wanted to reinsert that, and
it was the parliamentarian in the Senate that took it out,

(54:21):
and I'm just wondering if he has had any success
at doing that. I would really like to see those
things put back in it. I know it's like making sauces.
I don't know what's going to come out, but the
comment that I wanted to make was I am concerned
about the amount of spending that's going on. I understand
it's kind of like an airplane going into a stall.

(54:44):
You have to lose some altitude to get the air
speed back, but to get the economy moving, but eventually
you run out of altitude and hit the ground. So
I'm a little concerned about the amount of money that
they're putting out for who knows what well.

Speaker 2 (54:59):
I'm with you on that, David. And as far as
the other issues that you mentioned that were brought up
by the other the lawmaker trying to insert that I
haven't seen anything on that, have you, Greg, I have
seen anything on.

Speaker 1 (55:08):
It yet, I've not. Yeah, there's been talk of having
a conference committee, which is the way these things have
gone in the past. And but you got to have
the confidence when you get in that conference community, whatever
you're negotiating with the Senate, you're going to have the
votes behind you to make the negotiation. And I don't
know that the trust level with the Remebllican majority is
there to even get a conference committee that would matter.

Speaker 2 (55:28):
Let's go to Taylor's villain here from Walt tonight. Walt,
how are you welcome to the Rod and Gregg Show.

Speaker 6 (55:34):
But yeah, all of this is why wild friend, I
wanted to talk about that, the whole case.

Speaker 2 (55:40):
Yeah, rs real quick, Well you've got about one minute.
You've got about one minute.

Speaker 6 (55:45):
Okay. I knew Maureen Hunsaker who was killed violently in
eighty six, and that has not been resolved, and that's
been going on forty years. And if you can compair
to that with the Idaho with his four murders, how
long is that going to be taken care of to

(56:05):
get him to be executed? Probably forty years longer And
so I'm ambivalent about should he be shot up, should
he be taken care of, or should we just put
let the justice system go right now?

Speaker 5 (56:24):
You know?

Speaker 1 (56:24):
It's it's interesting, He's right. I mean, if he didn't
agree to this plea, and if they had had a
trial and they would have went through the whole process
and he was found guilty and he was given them
a death sentence, there would have been those pleas And
I don't know how long that could have taken all.
It might be right, it might be decades later you're
still messing around with it.

Speaker 2 (56:40):
Who knows that's true. And that's one of the issues
that we have. Would it comes to the death penalty
in this country? I have been all right, Mary coming
up Stack Show and our number three stay with us
on Utah's Talk Radio one five. Die Dan arsts Earth
to Greg Earth.

Speaker 1 (56:58):
Yeah, we're getting close to the.

Speaker 2 (57:01):
Get out of town kind I am.

Speaker 1 (57:04):
Kind of am. I wish they just passed the stupid
bill in the House so I could just, like, you know,
close the book on that so I can just get going.

Speaker 2 (57:10):
Let's move on.

Speaker 1 (57:11):
Come on, man, put a bow on it. This thing
is just it's not great. I think the caller that
called and said, look, you can only spend so far.
The trajectory is not sustainable. It's one hundred percent true.
But this is this is how but this is how
we get going. I mean, you've got to get this
agenda going and you've got to be able to do this.
And we've heard from our our representatives and members of

(57:32):
the Senate from Utah that they look forward to more
cuts and not this is well, this wasn't just a
one shot deal in and of itself. There's more to
do and they're ready to do it. But you know,
some of that is the scoring, Like, don't some of
that deficit that they say is money they count if
taxes went up. They said, well, you're gonna we're gonna
lose all of this money because you didn't pay trillions

(57:53):
more in taxes. That's that is some of the budget
gimmickry that goes on that that that's the Democrats at
least call that, you know, deficit spending when you lose
trillions because you didn't tax trillions. Yeah, I mean, I mean,
that's just doesn't make sense to normal people.

Speaker 2 (58:08):
Well, one of the issues in the Big Beautiful Bill
has to deal with energy the President. There are a
number of steps in there to continue to unleash America's
energy power, and there is a governor in Louisiana who's
doing all he can to get his state going. And
joining us on our Newsmaker line right now is Diana
firchaud Roth. She is with uh, let's see, she's with

(58:28):
a Heritage Foundation. Dana, thank you very much for joining us.
You're right about the Louisiana governor. What is he doing
in Louisiana to unleash that state's energy?

Speaker 3 (58:37):
Well, I think it's very important not just to talk
about what is happening and how we need to produce
more energy, but also do something about it. And the
bill that Governor Landry just signed into.

Speaker 12 (58:54):
Law would.

Speaker 3 (58:57):
Encourage Louisianians to produce more oil and natural gas discourage
them from using Chinese components. And Louisiana is an oil
rich state. It's very important that more oil and natural
gas be produced, and that is what Louisiana has actually

(59:18):
put in a bill.

Speaker 1 (59:20):
So specifically, how how does a state and its governor
incentivize the right right decisions regarding energy?

Speaker 5 (59:27):
How?

Speaker 1 (59:28):
What what is it that Louisiana is doing specifically.

Speaker 3 (59:33):
Well, I think what Louisiana is doing specifically is telling
utilities what energy to use. So I think that that's
important because utilities have to produce enough electricity so that
they have enough power on the hot days and enough
power on the very coldest days. And by telling the

(59:54):
utility what it has to use to produce this, uh,
it can lower the state, can lower electricity cust So
there are many states that tell their utility companies that
they have to use a certain share of renewables that's
called renewable portfolio standards, and this is doing the reverse.

(01:00:17):
This is telling them to stay away from Chinese technology,
Chinese components which are in wind and solar, and instead
to focus their energy that goes into their electricity production
on oil and natural gas and nuclear. And it also

(01:00:37):
declares nuclear and natural gas a clean fuel. So just
as some states say that their utility company should use renewables,
Louisiana is going the other direction and saying that their
utility should use our oil and natural gas and nuclear

(01:00:57):
power deg resources.

Speaker 2 (01:01:00):
Yeah, and you also write in your article about how
the bill would minimize encourages them to minimize their reliance
on foreign nations for their critical materials and their energy.
Is that correct.

Speaker 3 (01:01:13):
Right exactly? Because China produces about seventy percent of wind turbines,
solar panels, electric batteries, and a larger share of components
that go into those.

Speaker 1 (01:01:26):
So I have an interesting So, Diana, you look at
a state like California, which is basically doing the opposite
of everything you're writing about, or the opposite of anything
everything that Louisiana is doing. They're going to be dependent
on foreign oil coming in because the refineries are outdated
and they're not going to the companies aren't going to
upgrade them. They're trying to go solar. They're trying to
do these renewable energies. It's not going to work very well.

(01:01:47):
Do you believe that the longer view for California is
that they will have to reverse course because they just
won't have an energy grid that they can sustain their
population or are they going to run the clock on
this until the lights go out?

Speaker 3 (01:02:03):
So it's really it's a great question because it's really marketing.
It's marketing, it's green washing, it's packaging. Because California does
not have enough wind and solar to sustain itself. So
what does it do. It draws on power from other states,
as simple as that. If it needs more power, it
goes to Nevado, it goes to Wyoming, or it goes
to Idaho. So it draws from other states. It's a

(01:02:26):
little bit like Germany getting rid of its nuclear power plants.
I'm now going to France, which produces electricity with nuclear power,
to get energy when it doesn't have enough to sustain
its own population. So these are all it's all a
form of green washing. It's like hotels when they say

(01:02:46):
you're helping save the environment if you keep your dirty
towels instead of a scam.

Speaker 1 (01:02:52):
That is the worst. I agree with you.

Speaker 3 (01:02:57):
So it's the same way with California. They're not I mean,
they should brag that they can manage on wind and
solar alone, but they can't, and so they can't brag that.
What they do is they say that they only use
wind and solar, but then they draw power from other states.

Speaker 5 (01:03:18):
How you I mean?

Speaker 3 (01:03:19):
I mean, I mean the thing is just a big sham,
this wind and solar. It's just a big sham. And
electricity prices in twenty twenty four in California were about
thirty two cents pe kilar what are in Louisiana. They
were eleventh steps, so three times as much in California
as Louisiana. And you can look at residential electricity prices
in all fifty states. The Energy Information Administration publishes this

(01:03:43):
every month and these move around every month. But in
general you see that the high price states in terms
of electricity are those that require wind and solar. The
low price states are those that do not. And we
have these consortia. Yeah, we have these consortia of what
called regional transmission organizations. For example, there's MISO that goes

(01:04:04):
all the way from Michigan down to Louisiana, and MISO
provides power to different states. But that means that the
governor cannot of one of those states cannot instruct the
utility just to produce power with wind and solar because
it's part of this regional transmission organization. So what you

(01:04:24):
really need is you need to move back to the
model where you have utilities in each state and the
state governor can call the utility in and say, I
need you to produce as much power as you need
for the hottest days, as much power as you need
for the coldest days and you're not to have any
blackouts and just make that very clear. Yeah, one line
of responsibility.

Speaker 2 (01:04:44):
Yeah, final question for you, Diana. How energy rich is
the state of Louisiana. I mean, when we think of
energy producing country states, we don't often think of Louisiana.
Are they energy rich?

Speaker 3 (01:04:57):
Well, they have They suddenly have our oil natural gas
that they can be using. And it's also a question
of what they can get from other states, because you
can also get natural gas from other states. For example,

(01:05:19):
the Marcella Shell in Pennsylvania, the Atticochelle in Ohio applies
natural gas to a whole variety of states. You don't
just have to use natural gas from your own state.
And one of the main complaints that President Trump has
about New York is it is not allowing a pipeline
to allow the natural gas from the Marcella Shelle to

(01:05:40):
go up to New England, which is why New England
prices are so high and they have to depend on
oil that comes in in tankers in Boston.

Speaker 2 (01:05:49):
Hub And I thank you that Diana first got roth.
She is the director and the Center for Energy, Climate
and Environment at the Heritage Foundation. Talking about what Louisiana
is doing. And I love Greg the fact that Utah
is trying to get an early jump on the nuclear
wave and hopefully we can do that.

Speaker 1 (01:06:09):
And a lot of people don't know. The University of
Utah has a little mini nuclear reactor. There's ways to
do it, do it safely, and we need a lot
of power, so we always have. It's just been these
liberal enviros that've always told us we can't do it,
and we can't.

Speaker 2 (01:06:23):
Of course, we can get it done.

Speaker 1 (01:06:25):
Ye now that they see it the light, you know,
now we'll be able to get done faster.

Speaker 2 (01:06:29):
Yeah. All right, Donald Trump and immigration, We've got a
thought or two on that and we'll talk about it
with you coming up next right here on the Rod
and Greg Show and Utah's Talk Radio one oh five
nine k n rs. You know, Greg, in my years
of reporting television or radio, the group of people that
I always enjoyed talking to were farmers and ranchers. Oh yes,

(01:06:49):
just because they're down to earth, salt of the earth folks.
They'll tell you what's on their mind. They always have great,
great things to say about what's going on in their business,
and they don't shy away from it at all. They're always
enjoyable to talk to. But farmers right now and ranchers
in this country are struggling. One of the reasons is
finding labor. And the President is aware of that, and
he's now floating this idea of a mass deportation, possibly

(01:07:13):
temporary pass because these farmers and these ranchers need help.
In Joining us on our Newsmaker line to talk more
about that is Brian re Singer. He is an author,
a consultant, also grew up on a family farm in Wisconsin. Brian,
how are you welcome to the rodd In Great Show.
Thanks for joining us.

Speaker 4 (01:07:30):
Hey, I'm doing great. It's good to be with you.
Thanks for having me, Brian.

Speaker 2 (01:07:33):
How important is it, knowing the president's efforts on illegal
immigration to come up with a way to help the
farmers and ranchers who need some of these workers.

Speaker 4 (01:07:43):
Yeah, well, some kind of a solution is crucial. You know,
family farms all across the country are dealing with what
I call cross cutting political winds. On the one hand,
many of them support securing our border. May be one
of the reasons they support a President Trump, which is
a common thing in rural areas and farm communities. But
on the other and they do know that American agriculture
depends upon farm labor, some farms more than others, bigger farms,

(01:08:06):
on farms of handpicked produce, farms that milk cows, a
lot of these things that have that kind of labor
they required in about half of our farm labor is
immigrant labor. And so farmers want to be able to
support securing our border and other goals, they also need
to make sure they're going to have the labor they
need to feed our country. And that's really the situation
they find themselves. And I think that's why the discussion

(01:08:27):
about some sort of a solution is such a prominent
issue right now.

Speaker 1 (01:08:31):
And I don't think that the solution would be to
cast a blind eye to illegal behavior. I think it's
I think what's worth really exploring is how do you
find a legal way for people to be able to
enter this country and work if it's seasonal or if
it's in an agriculture what is and then go back
If you don't have that illegal process, doesn't it actually
promote illegal entry if you have no saying process to

(01:08:53):
come in and out?

Speaker 4 (01:08:55):
Well, it does. And you know in this country we've
proven that we have an ability I should say Washington,
the politicians in Washington having an inability to secure that
border so far. And it does end up encouraging, like,
you know, people are going to come over, this is
going to happen. There's an entire industry. I mean, part
of the solution is cracking down on the cartels that
traffic not just in drugs, but in people and bringing

(01:09:18):
them through. And so it's a real challenge, is a
real problem. And you know, farms, we're in a situation
where our farms have been struggling for decades. We've been
losing farmers at the rate of about forty five thousand
per year on average century. We got tight margins and
having that labor force is crucial.

Speaker 2 (01:09:34):
Brian, what kind of feedback do you think the farming
community and the ranching community is giving the president on
these ice raids. And you know, Stephen Miller and Tom
Holman are determined to do something about illegal immigrants in
this country. But are farmers and ranchers telling the president
hold on here, sir, give us a second, let's figure
out something, because we do need these workers. Are they

(01:09:57):
speaking out?

Speaker 4 (01:10:00):
I think they are, and I think one of the
reasons that it's effective is because there is so much
support in rural areas and farm communities for the president.
You know, whatever people think of politics or whoever they support,
there's a lot of support and rural areas for president
from And so when rural areas speak up, when farm
families speak up and say, hey, you know, we're with
you on this, but you've got to understand this part

(01:10:23):
of the agenda affects us. I think it's a really
effective voice. It's a crucial voice. We need more of it.
We need more of it on other issues related to farms.
We've needed it for decades. And having the ability for
the American farmer to help shape where our policy is
going from a government standpoint, we sold a lot of
problems in this country, and I'm glad that farmers are

(01:10:44):
being heard on some level on this issue. I hope
they keep it up so that we land in the
right spot.

Speaker 1 (01:10:48):
So let me ask you, hypothetically, if there is a
practical way for people to so for like for agriculture,
for people to come across and have visus be documented
coming into the country, being able to work go back. However,
that's going to work when it's all documented and so
it's not under the table type of labor. Do you
think my question has always been are there jobs that

(01:11:10):
Americans won't do? Or was it always an issue of
they wouldn't do it at an under the table under
market severely under market wage. When this becomes formalized or
if it's formalized, where does this fall. Are there jobs
that Americans won't do or enough Americans to do them
and so we need the visas or will you see
Americans that would be willing to do those jobs? How

(01:11:32):
do you think that how does that all balance out?
Do you think?

Speaker 4 (01:11:35):
You know, it's a great question. I do think that
there's a little bit of bolt And what I mean
by that is, I think there's a certain amount of
labor from immigration that is part of this and is
baked in, and there's a way to do this. Well,
we secure the border, and we have a larger number
of what's called H two A visus. These are farm
worker visas. We can have a higher number so you
can have a legal workforce it's supplied in a way

(01:11:57):
that is legal and compliant, and also have secured the border.
But I also think that there are a lot of
Americans that would work on farms. I know there's a
lot of young people that would continue to work on
farms and work in agriculture if they thought there was
a brighter future in it. What I mean by that
is we've been, as I mentioned, wiping on our farms.
We've had this relentless push in this country toward bigger

(01:12:18):
farms and cheaper labor. And if we had a situation
where more of our family farms were able to make
a living, we're able to grow the entrepreneur adventures. They
could support the family rather than the family work at
two three jobs. In my book land Ridge Cash Prore
we talk about that the way that farmers make ends
meet by working two three jobs in many cases. So
if we went from a relentless push toward bigger farms
and cheaper labor over to growing entrepreneurial small family farms

(01:12:41):
again in this country, I think you'd see rising wages,
rising economic opportunity. I think you see a lot of
Americans still those jobs too.

Speaker 2 (01:12:47):
Brian, final question, are you optimistic? Do you think something
will get done to try to at least address this issue.

Speaker 4 (01:12:55):
I am optimistic. I think that they're going to find
some kind of a balance, and I think the only
way they do that is that farmers keeps speaking up
so they can balance these different things, and we need
to make sure that they do that. I always try
to be optimistic, but one of the reasons I'm optimistic
as well, more broadly, is because the resilience of our
farm families. You know, we've got although we've wiped out
seventy percent of our farms, we've got nearly two million
farms left. This is amazing, as people sometimes ninety six

(01:13:17):
percent of our family operation. That means we've got nearly
two million farm families holding on even though we've deliberately
in many cases made the economics not work for them
in this country. Maagree what they could accomplish for us,
we've made the economics work again.

Speaker 2 (01:13:27):
It'd be amazing. Brian, Thank you very much. Enjoy the
fourth of July weekend. We'll talk again. Thank you, Brian.

Speaker 4 (01:13:34):
Thank Do you happy for us?

Speaker 2 (01:13:35):
No?

Speaker 1 (01:13:35):
Thank you?

Speaker 2 (01:13:35):
Brian ree Singer. He's an author. He brought I wrote
a book Land Rich, Cash Poor. I married a farmer's daughter.
I know what farmers go through. I mean, I know
you know. She has a nephew right now who's got
a very large farm operation. But it is a challenge
and we've got to support those farmers out there. I mean, yeah,
I mean I didn't realize, what do you say, forty
five thousand a year we're losing We still have two million,

(01:13:57):
which is a very large number. But wouldn't it be
nice to row those farms again?

Speaker 1 (01:14:00):
Absolutely, and in our agricultural economic sector in Utah is
incredibly important. Our number one export is our falfa, and
we have farmers and we have uh these are these
are we don't want to lose this. We cannot lose
our food supply. We cannot lose the ability to make
and grow our own food. And I think the consolidation
of multinational corporations consolidating all has not been a positive

(01:14:25):
for the workforce, for the economy for anything. So I like,
I like the talk of that, and I think the
big you know, canary in the coal mine is when
you formalize the way people can come into this country
and come out that H two visa he mentioned. I
like to think that there's a lot that Americans would
do where there where you need labor, great, But I
think that once this is formalized and you're not paying

(01:14:47):
under the table and it's not below market wages, then
we'll find out where that where the labor demands are.
And I think that's important. You can't you can't move
forward to you know.

Speaker 2 (01:14:57):
Yeah, all right. Another issue the President is trying to
address is removing non citizens from the census. We'll get
into that coming up on the Roden greg Show on
This Wingman Wednesday and Utah's Talk Radio one oh five
nine knrs.

Speaker 1 (01:15:10):
Happy Birthday, America. Just I'm happy to celebrate the birthday
with you.

Speaker 2 (01:15:14):
Yeah. Starting new traditions, yes you are, because the old
ones have gone out the window.

Speaker 1 (01:15:19):
You got to keep reminding me. I you know, yeah,
I'm just true.

Speaker 2 (01:15:22):
I know you're upset about this.

Speaker 6 (01:15:23):
I am.

Speaker 2 (01:15:23):
You came on Monday. I think it was kind of yeah,
down in the dumps.

Speaker 1 (01:15:28):
We're gonna get We're going to try to get some
new traditions. Because my kids get old and then they
turn on me.

Speaker 2 (01:15:34):
That's what happens. They do have their own lives.

Speaker 1 (01:15:38):
Yeah, you know, doing know that.

Speaker 2 (01:15:40):
I just want to make sure you know that.

Speaker 6 (01:15:42):
All right.

Speaker 2 (01:15:42):
One of the issues about this whole illegal immigration invasion
that we've had over the last several years has been
the Democrats want open borders because these illegals will come
into the country and eventually vote Democrat. The one thing
that people forgot. Even if they don't vote, they have
an impact on the election because non citizens are counted
in censor surveys and the census, and those are divvied

(01:16:07):
up to the various congressional Senate districts.

Speaker 1 (01:16:10):
Yeah, there are. If you took them out there are,
it would change that where these seats go and you'd
see the Republicans have a lot different landscapes than they
have right now.

Speaker 2 (01:16:19):
Yeah. Well, joining us on our any hour Dunsmaker line
to talk more about this is our good friend Amanda Head,
White House correspondent for Just the News. Amanda, how are
you welcome back to the Rod and Gregg Show.

Speaker 12 (01:16:29):
Well, thank you, thank you for having me and happy
early Force July.

Speaker 2 (01:16:33):
Same to you, Same to you.

Speaker 1 (01:16:34):
We're excited.

Speaker 2 (01:16:34):
Give us an update of what the president is trying
to do to keep these non citizens off voter roll registration.
What is he trying to do, Amanda?

Speaker 12 (01:16:42):
Yeah, so he's got a couple of different avenues. Stephen Miller,
who has become an absolute champion in many departments, but
particularly this one when it comes to a legal immigrants.
Stephen Miller is really really pressing hard to make this
a second term priority. Obviously, the priority right now is
getting ob three passed through Congress, because if that doesn't happen,

(01:17:05):
then you know, largest tax hike in history, and a
whole plethora of bad things, including lacking border security. But
this is going to be a major priority. And Stephen
Miller has also tapped Howard Lutnik, Commerce Secretary, to kind
of help him out with this, because Howard Ludnik is
very much in support of this, and as Commerce Secretary,

(01:17:27):
Howard Ludnik can request that a question be added to
the census. Now, the next censors to come obviously is
twenty thirty, and alterations, amendments, all of that stuff has
to be finalized by twenty twenty eight, so obviously it's
twenty twenty five right now. We've got about a two
and a half year window to actually make that happen.

(01:17:49):
But Lundnik just has to request that a census question
be added that distinguishes between you know, citizens, legal permanent residents,
unauthorized immigrants aka illegal aliens, and then they would those
people would still be included in the overall count, but
then he would direct the Census Bureau and Congress to

(01:18:12):
a portion appropriately based on the citizens and not on
illegal aliens or unauthorized citizens as it would be or
unauthorized residents as it would be stated on the census.
So that's one of the routes. The other route is
via Congress that there already there's already one bill that
has been proposed by Chuck Edwards, a Congressman from North Carolina,

(01:18:33):
in conjunction with Senator Bill Haggerty over on the Senate
side from Tennessee, so they can if their bill succeeds,
that would mandate a citizenship citizenship question on the census.
And you know, we've got a Republican controlled Congress right
now at least up until you know, January of twenty

(01:18:55):
twenty seven, if Republicans lose the majority in the House.
But for now, well, you know, that's got a much
easier route because back to when President Trump was trying
to accomplish this in twenty twenty, frankly, they should have
started a lot sooner, but they didn't. But it didn't
the Supreme Court turned it down because they said it
was prematurely there. It should have gone through the Circuit court.

(01:19:17):
But obviously this was an emergency appeal, and it was
it was a pressing issue for the census to be
conducted that year, so the Supreme Court could revisit it again.
I imagine, you know, they are going to be They're
going to be determining more and more of these issues
for the president. But it seems like, you know, I mean,
last week proof positive that the Supreme Court seems to

(01:19:41):
see things from a textool and originalist and constitutional point
of view, much like President Trump, because they continue to
predominantly rule in his favor.

Speaker 1 (01:19:52):
So, Amanda, you and you mentioned it. So in twenty twenty,
Trump tries to do this, he's a little behind the curve.
The Supreme Court says, say it's premature, we haven't vetted
this or we don't know, and so it wasn't included
on the census back then. We've learned a lot since
twenty twenty, and what we've seen is an open border
and we've seen ngngos that have delivered millions of people

(01:20:14):
all over this country that will absolutely if you don't
have that question included in the census, will impact appropriations
and census and how many legislative seats that every state
will get, how many electoral votes. So do you think
with this additional information of how the border was left
open and what the impact of undocumented illegal immigrants is

(01:20:35):
or could be to the country, do you dow where
would you handicap this? Is this a question that will
stay given what we've learned, or do you think the
ACLU and those will succeed in having that question dropped?

Speaker 12 (01:20:48):
I don't think they will succeed. You know, President Trump
and I was actually talking to someone and laughing about
this the other day. President Trump had four years to
scheme stealing the twenty twenty election or whatever you think happened.
Do you think President Trump lost whatever? Anyway, he wasn't
in the Oval Office on January twentieth of twenty twenty

(01:21:09):
or twenty twenty one, those four years.

Speaker 3 (01:21:13):
I mean Democrats.

Speaker 12 (01:21:15):
I think that it is regrettable for them that Donald
Trump had a break between his two presidencies, because I
guarantee you this is one of those things that President
Trump spent time with his entire legal team teaming on.

Speaker 3 (01:21:28):
How to get this done.

Speaker 12 (01:21:30):
I don't think they will be successful. And I agree
with you. I mean, you look at the ad nauseum
argument of Democrats every time new election laws come around,
and it's voter suppression, voter suppression. I can't think of
anything more suppressing to lawful, legal American citizen voters than

(01:21:51):
having their vote diluted by the votes of non citizens.
I can't think of anything more suppressing than that. So
you would think that Democrats would be on But then again,
when Georgia passed their election integrity bills a few years ago,
they called it Jim Crow two point zero and the
Major League All Star Game left Georgia over it. And
you know, it just seems like we are on two

(01:22:13):
very different sides of this issue. Democrats see it one way.
They see illegal immigrants as votes when they come into
this country. You know, I always think back to and
I'm in my forty, so I think back to the
cartoons of the eighties where you would have Roadrunner or somebody,
and they would they would see something that they wanted
to eat and their eyeballs would turn into t bones.

Speaker 1 (01:22:38):
I love cartoons.

Speaker 12 (01:22:41):
Yes, when Democrats see illegal aliens, they just see a
ballot box and they see a vote. They don't see
anything else. They don't see the plight of them, you
know landing in this country. You know over one hundred
thousand illegal miners that were lost into this country. None
of that stuff matters to them as long as they
were able to get the vote. So this this, frankly,
this is v day for them. They have to make

(01:23:02):
sure that if this ends up at the Supreme Court,
that they rule in their favor. But I mean, you
look at the makeup of the court and I really think,
you know, John Roberts can go whatever way he wants,
But I just I don't think that he would rule
with the Liberals on this. And even if he does,
we still win five four. So I am hopeful. But

(01:23:28):
it's got to happen sooner. And you know, it's proof
positive that this is happening. This is the ball is
getting rolling on this. Well technically it got the ball
started rolling on day one because President Trump signed an
executive order that stripped something an executive order that Joe
Biden signed on his first day in office, which was
basically reaffirming what the Constitution's definition of persons what he

(01:23:52):
perceived it to be, which was including non citizens. President
Trump came around and said no, sorry, that's not true.
Sign another executive order. So at this point is a
war of executive orders. But I think ultimately, if it
ends up at the Supreme Court, which I'm pretty confident
it will, it will rule in our Favorite's just got
to happen soon.

Speaker 2 (01:24:10):
It just just makes a whole lot of sense. Amanda
has always great to have you on the show and
enjoy the fourth of July.

Speaker 3 (01:24:16):
Thank you, same to you guys.

Speaker 12 (01:24:19):
Happy birthday to our beautiful country.

Speaker 1 (01:24:21):
And thanks for having me all right, Amanda, thank you
so much.

Speaker 2 (01:24:23):
Just the news is always a pleasure to have her
on the show and talk about this. Totally support this
effort and I hope is successful. I don't know how
the Democrats say he's not a non citizen, so we
should count as part of the population just to impact
congressional district.

Speaker 1 (01:24:37):
Yeah, they'll they'll keep too many Democrats seats if they
are allowed to count the people they let in for
four years and millions, and that they can't get away
with it. If that question isn't allowed in that census,
then what Biden did, for all the grief he's taken
will have succeeded. It will have succeeded.

Speaker 2 (01:24:51):
Yeah, all right, more coming up on the Rod and
Greg Show in Utah's Talk Radio one oh five nine
key nrs.

Speaker 1 (01:24:56):
Welcome back, folks, just sitting about that away from people. Now,
I didn't I didn't pull it off to no, you did. Well,
Welcome back to the final segment of The Rotten Greg Show.
Wingman Wednesday edition of The Rotten Greg Show. But it
feels like Friday.

Speaker 2 (01:25:09):
Yeah, well it is for us.

Speaker 1 (01:25:10):
Yes, and here on talk radio one of nine canas.
It's been a good week.

Speaker 2 (01:25:17):
Yeah, it's been a short week week, but good. A
couple of notes we didn't get to today. Paramant has
agreed to settle the Donald Trump lawsuit over sixty minutes.
What was he asking sixty million? He settled for sixteen.

Speaker 1 (01:25:29):
Yeah, they got to give to his They got to
go to his presidential library. They've got to there's all
kinds of things.

Speaker 2 (01:25:34):
To see, the stuff that.

Speaker 1 (01:25:35):
Well, he threw it's he threw it. There's a bunch
of stuff in there. In fact, it's probably twice the
amount that ABC had to pay, which is always fun.

Speaker 6 (01:25:43):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:25:43):
I guess the journalists at CBS are very very upset.

Speaker 1 (01:25:46):
Yeah, too bad. If they acted ethically, they wouldn't be
in the spot.

Speaker 2 (01:25:50):
Very very upset. Hey, guess what the Democrats are working
on for twenty twenty eight? What a project called Project
twenty twenty nine.

Speaker 1 (01:25:58):
I thought the Project twenty five was the was you know.
I thought that that when you have projects and you
have them by year, that it's it's like an evil
you know, manual. You're not supposed to do that. They
can do that now, people.

Speaker 2 (01:26:12):
People who are looking at this saying it's no different
from twenty twenty four.

Speaker 1 (01:26:16):
There you go perfect.

Speaker 2 (01:26:17):
I mean, well, the the Democratic ideas have not changed.
They're way out there and already they refuse to change
and come back to what normal Americans are looking for.

Speaker 1 (01:26:27):
Look, they got this young guy that's a declared socialist,
anti semi, they've got AOC, they've got Bernie Sanders. They're
they're ready, they're ready to go. The Party of subtraction
rages on.

Speaker 2 (01:26:40):
Yes, all right, this weekend, is there a patriotic movie
that you'll watch? Oh, you like to watch on a
weekend like this? Rocky four all day? Rocky four, Rocky four,
that's patriotic. Yeah, Rocky versus Drago and Russia. Yeah, USSR
See I love The Patriot with Mel Gibson.

Speaker 1 (01:26:57):
Good movie. I like that movie, but I like them.
Rocky For is my movie. And then and then, if
I can get convinced my kids, I do like uh oh,
the Patrick swayzey movie with with Red Dawn. I love Red.

Speaker 2 (01:27:10):
Don you know I never watched it.

Speaker 1 (01:27:14):
Oh my goodness. If we weren't finishing the show right now,
I know all the colors would tell you got to
go see what they did a redo of it. Don't
watch it.

Speaker 2 (01:27:22):
They the enemy, they took chine out. Yeah, I can't remember.

Speaker 1 (01:27:27):
No, I think they put you in anyway. Just go
see the original. It's got all the it's got great
actors that were you know, Patrick Swayze, wasn't it all? No,
it was actually they came in, they invaded the Cuba
came in. I mean it's a very good movie. It's
a very good movie.

Speaker 2 (01:27:45):
Those are your two choices.

Speaker 1 (01:27:46):
Yeah, I usually can't pull off both, So I picked
Rocky For. And then, by the way, there's a director's
cut of Rocky For that were Sylvester Sloan came in
and made it a little changed. It tweaked it a
little from the original, and it's actually better in my opinion.

Speaker 2 (01:27:59):
So you like Rocky four versus a Rocky one, the
original Rocky, I.

Speaker 1 (01:28:02):
Like all the Rockies. Rocky fourth, my fourth of July.

Speaker 2 (01:28:04):
Go to all enjoy your weekend.

Speaker 1 (01:28:07):
Thanks you and Queen.

Speaker 2 (01:28:10):
Everybody enjoy July fourth. Head up, shoulders back. May God
bless you and your family. Thanks for joining us. We'll
talk to you next Monday.

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