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June 2, 2025 90 mins
The Rod and Greg Show Daily Rundown – Monday, June 2, 2025

4:20 pm: Daniel Turner, Executive Director of Power the Future, joins the show for a conversation about why the group is calling into question whether President Joe Biden was cognizant of the climate change executive orders that occurred during his administration.

4:38 pm: Beth Brelje, Elections Correspondent for The Federalist, joins the program to discuss her op-ed piece urging people not to support companies pushing the gay pride agenda.

6:05 pm: Leslie Eastman of Legal Insurrection joins the program to discuss her report on the Trump administration's fast-tracking of the approval process for a uranium mine in Utah.

6:38 pm: Carrie Sheffield, Senior Policy Analyst at the Independent Women’s Forum, joins the program to discuss her piece in the Daily Signal about how the Left still has a thirst for political violence
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Unfortunately, your pirates lost the game that you took in
this one.

Speaker 2 (00:03):
I went to two and they won one, lost one,
and then they lost the game. I watched until I
got my Yeah.

Speaker 1 (00:09):
So yeah, gets your time screwed up?

Speaker 2 (00:11):
Yeah, so, but I went down. I get to see
the Pirates play in San Diego, which I quite enjoyed.

Speaker 1 (00:16):
And you're not a ballpark down there.

Speaker 2 (00:18):
It is. It is an baseball is a game that
you love for reasons beyond the score. Clearly if you're
a Pirates fan. If you're a Pirates fan, yeah, I
was raised on it. I my grandmother used to take
me to the games all the time, and I do
love to watch baseball.

Speaker 1 (00:33):
It's great to be with you today. We invite you
to be a part of the program. Eight eight eight
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two fifty and say, Rod, we have got so much
to talk about today. We're going to talk about I mean,
we're all talking. This is Pride month. Yeah. I don't
see your rainbow colors or your rainbow colors. This is

(00:54):
Pride month. It is the Utah Yas. Unfortunately, the Utah Mammoth.
Others have joined in on this. You have a theory
as to why they do it. Now, we'll get into
that a little bit later on in the show. We'll
talk about the thirst for political violence, and let's talk
about political violence in this country. Why is it greg
when it is as plain as the nose on your face.

(01:17):
The media in this country is unwilling to identify anything
as a terrorist attack. Yeah, why are they so afraid?

Speaker 2 (01:25):
Because they're activists, because they have a they have a
worldview of which they push. And this is coming at
a time where you have Jake Tapper, Alex Thompson, you
have you have these guys that are trying to say,
you know, the Democrats and Biden's administration really tricked us.
We're so sorry everybody. For four years we weren't You
could see things going on and we acted like it
didn't exist. But it's their fault, not ours. And in that,

(01:46):
in that climate, you have this weekend's terrorist attack in Colorado,
in Colorado and Bolder Colorado that is without a doubt
because the man clearly says why he's doing it. It's
free Palestine and he's attacking Jewish people with maltofcock. I
think he's killed. How many people is he killed?

Speaker 1 (02:02):
I don't have there be any fatalities. I haven't seen
any yet.

Speaker 2 (02:05):
So it is it's a it's a gruesome attack, and
the media can't report it as a terrorist attack, and
they won't do it. I'm sitting here looking if it's
a if it's a mass, if it's if it's Palestine
sending CNN, you know what they think Israel's done to
attack them, They'll they'll report that as if it were news,
as if they saw it themselves, truly. But if it's uh,

(02:26):
but if it's this terrorist attack and against these Jewish people,
uh that they're just saying FBI is investigating an incident
in Boulder, Colorado. Anyway, that shows you that they just
all you have to do is flip the script. If
you saw molotov cocktails hurled into it, since it's June,
the gay Pride.

Speaker 1 (02:44):
Parade, oh man, it would be a hate.

Speaker 2 (02:46):
Crime and it would be Trump's fault. Within thirty seconds
of the of the news breaking on CNN or any
other news outlets.

Speaker 1 (02:53):
Pretty much you know what what's really sad about, Well,
there are a lot of sad things about this, But
you had a group of people. The young greg was
fifty five, the oldest was like eighty two, a Holocaust survivor. Okay,
marching in support of hostages still being held in Gaza
by Hamas right. So there show their solidarity and support

(03:16):
and they're attacked by a man who planned this for
a year, who waited until his daughter graduated, who is
in this country illegally, couldn't get a gun. Can you
can you imagine what have happened if he would have
had a gun, but he couldn't get it because he's
here illegally.

Speaker 2 (03:31):
That Jamie Raskin said we need more gun control. So
that's what that democrat said. First thing, he said, gun
control worked on this, by the way, Jamie. And then
he attacks these people using a makeshift molotah or flamethrower
and molotov cocktails and burns them and we can't call
it a terrorist attack. No. NBC News, Rod and ladies
and gentlemen, as this happened. As this rolled out, their

(03:54):
headline said, multiple Gaza Hostage Awareness marchers yea injured in
attack and boulder. I mean, what what kind of wordsmithing
is that Multiple Gaza Hostage Awareness marchers. How about Jewish people?
How about Jewish people? I mean, I I'm going to

(04:15):
tell you that that the way the media cannot, cannot,
you know, admit that this was a terrorist attack, as
blatant and as obvious as it is, just give it.
It's a it's you know, it's a tell. I'm gonna
I'm gonna tell you this is exactly who they are.
I don't care what they say about the Biden administration
and them not getting it right for the same reasons

(04:37):
they didn't get that right, is the same reason they
can't report this ethically and acts and fairly.

Speaker 1 (04:42):
Well. I mean, you think about this, Greg, I mean,
as I mentioned, plain is the nose on your face.
You've got a group of Jewish people marching a man
in this country illegally. He's a Egyptian yelling free Palestine,
Free Palestine. And I want you to listen for right away,
I mean Cash betel And and Bunging, head of the FBI,
knew right away what this was. They called it a

(05:03):
terrorist attack. They didn't wait for someone to determine that.
But listen to this. And analyst who is critical of
both Patel and Bunging.

Speaker 3 (05:12):
The chief comes out and says, we don't have two
plus two equaling four yet. In other words, this is obviously
an antisemitic attack, and the victims were obviously part of
that group. Therefore we're not calling it terrorism.

Speaker 4 (05:25):
It adds a lot of.

Speaker 3 (05:27):
It's not good for the community, it's not good for
the potentially targeted community. It makes law enforcement look disorganized,
and it makes the FBI look so juvenile, like, why
are you getting ahead of the police chief who who says,
I don't know what this is. It sounds maybe it
is what we all think it is, but maybe it's not,

(05:50):
and he has no incentive to get it wrong. So
we're going to take a step back, not be responsive
to tweets by two heads of the FBI who don't
have a long history in local law enforcement. And we
will wait and it isn't what we all worry it is,

(06:11):
and if it is, then there'll be an investigation. But
that was That's like nothing I'd ever seen before.

Speaker 1 (06:16):
I wonder if there's Nitwick greg is going to come
back today and say I guess it was a terrorist attack.

Speaker 2 (06:21):
Well, she might even still argue that they should have waited.

Speaker 1 (06:24):
Way.

Speaker 2 (06:24):
Dan Mangino has had a long long history and law
enforced eye so he secret service. She's inaccurate there. But again,
if you just flip the script and you were to
say that the same thing happened at a gay gay
pride parade with Molotov cocktails and having someone say the
equivalent of free Palestine, so I don't know what you'd
say and scream at the attendees of that parade. But

(06:45):
if all those things were the case, there isn't anyone,
whether it was the chief of police a Boulder, whether
it's the FBI, whether it was the media, everyone would
be calling it for exactly what it was, and that'd
be a hate crime against gay people at a gay
pride parade parade, ye pride parade. We wouldn't even be
debating it. I wouldn't be I wouldn't be like, well,
you jumped to conclusions. You just you just you just

(07:06):
got out there on a thin limb. No, you actually didn't.
Actually Okay, I think the thin limb is trying to
avoid calling it what it is, because again they Reuters
tried to say that you know this, this whole being
angry at Israel has nothing to do with Jewish people
here will They're attacking the Jewish people here, So I
think it does have When you say free Palestine and

(07:27):
you attack these people, I think it does actually have
something to do with them.

Speaker 1 (07:31):
Yeah, nobody has said this yet, but you known't who
owns this great, this whole thing, the Biden administration.

Speaker 2 (07:37):
Yea.

Speaker 1 (07:37):
How many people are in this country illegally? You know
there their visas have checked out, but no one has
kept track of them. And how many more people like
this guy are running around this country? And who's to blame?

Speaker 2 (07:51):
The Biden administration and for all the one for the
millions upon millions that have come in. This man came
in during the Biden administration. He over is b one.

Speaker 1 (08:00):
Boy did he visa? He was to checked on, checked
on him.

Speaker 2 (08:04):
He applied for that fake asylum thing you can do online,
got himself even though he'd overstayed and was there illegally,
got to stay till March of twenty five, which was
last you know, two months ago, and he overstayed that.
So he came here during Biden's administration, He got the
scam asylum deal for two more years and he was

(08:26):
still here illegally. And that's just one. You can't tell
me that's the only problematic one we have. He'd been
planning this too. I mean, the information that's coming out
today is this was all premeditated, This was highly for
a year, waited for a long time to do it.
And how many more of those are coming? Sadly? I mean,
I hope I'm wrong, but I can't imagine this was
the one guy out of the millions that came across

(08:46):
that want to commit violence.

Speaker 1 (08:48):
Well, this is the third anti Semitic act in this
country over the just last couple of weeks. Remember the
young couple killed out side the Israeli embassy in Washington, and.

Speaker 2 (08:57):
People want to gloss over that. At some point there
has to be accountability.

Speaker 1 (09:00):
Donald Trump told the American people get ready for this.
There's going to be crime on the streets. And that's
what we're facing, Eachend every day, sad, sad story. We'll
have more on this coming up a little bit later
on in the show. Great to be with you on
this Monday afternoon. It is the Rotten Gregg Show right
here on Utah's Talk Radio one oh five nine. Ken
are at all right? Let's talk about Joe Biden. Always
a fun subject to talk about. I am forcing myself

(09:23):
to get through that book. Career that going for you.
It is the same story over and over again. Someone
he talked to he's different today, he's not the same
as he used to be. But we aren't going to
say anything. That's all it is. It's the same chapter
after chapter after chapter. It's all it is.

Speaker 2 (09:42):
And I found that it was interesting that they take
the worst occasions like the Afghanistan uh withdrawal, and they
underplay that. They give it a pair and then they
and then they take the the special investigator here, Robert,
you give it.

Speaker 1 (09:54):
And I got through this last night, five pages of
George Clooney.

Speaker 2 (09:57):
There you go. So they're not gonna so even and
they're they're you know, they're throwing softball. They don't want
to they don't want to play it too tough. If
they had something to do with national security though, the
gloss over that.

Speaker 1 (10:07):
Well, let's go to our next guest on The Routing
Gregg Show and any our Newsmaker line, Daniel Turner. Daniel
is founder executive director of Power the Future, and he
says they have some questions being raised about what Joe
Biden did when it came to energy police Daniel. Great
to have you on this show. Thanks for joining us tonight, Daniel.

Speaker 5 (10:26):
Thanks to be back with you. And let me just
start by saying, I don't think George CUNY's own mother
wants to read five pages about George.

Speaker 4 (10:33):
So good for you.

Speaker 2 (10:35):
Yeah, Daniel, truth the power there. That is a truth
bomb if I ever heard one. You're exactly right, Daniel.

Speaker 1 (10:41):
You're raising some questions about if Joe Biden even knew
what was going on when he issued all these executives'
orders on energy. What what? What? What are you thinking? Daniel?

Speaker 5 (10:51):
Yeah, So, the the auto pin scandal has definitely blown up,
and President Trump has talked quite a bit about it.
We went back and we looked at some of the
larger environmental executive orders that President Biden made, really big
sweeping decisions, for example, banning the export of liquid natural
gas a state that definitely cost him pencil costs the

(11:14):
Democrats Pennsylvania in the twenty twenty four election, but a
decision that really hurt Pennsylvania, hurt New Mexico, at hurt Texas.
We looked at decisions like that and tried to find
any instance of Joe Biden talking about it in his
own voice in first person. Now, not every president makes
the big, grandiose gestures that President Trump does. Right, he

(11:36):
signs an order, he has cameras, he holds it up
for everyone to see. But we couldn't find any instance
at all that Joe Biden ever said, Hey, here's what
I did, here's the reason why I did it. And
so we're asking for an investigation. Just say, can you
confirm to us that Joe Biden himself actually made these decisions?

(11:56):
We know from the book, even after five pages of
George Clooney, you know, most of the staffers were making
a lot of those decisions. How do we know that
they weren't making these environmental decisions too?

Speaker 2 (12:08):
How much more dangerous is it for a faceless, nameless,
anonymous staffer with control of an auto pen to put
domestic policy in place and not have a president who
would own it, who has a legacy, who the American
people elected. I mean, how much more dangerous is that
for the American people? This scenario that you had these

(12:28):
staffers that could have that kind of power.

Speaker 5 (12:31):
Yeah, it's horrifying because it sets up a really dangerous precedent.
Why don't we just elect the electable person and then
tell them to always spend the weekends in Delaware and
we'll just take care of everything for you. Missed the president, right,
And that is how a lot of rogue regimes work.
You've got the polit bureau, You've got you know, if
this were a monarchy, you've got you've got the pretty Council, etc. Well,

(12:55):
they make the decisions for you. You just sit there
on the chair and will take care of the rest.
But that's not exactly how the American presidency is going
to go. And when it comes to some of these
decisions again, I mentioned the liquid natural gas ban, how
about the ban of offshore oil and gas drilling, right like,
that's that's a consequence. That's a decision that bankrupted families,

(13:16):
like small businesses, and that contributed greatly to the Ukraine
Russia war. Right when we stopped exporting natural gas, for example,
the Europeans just bought it from the Russians visa Vian
intermediary so to bypass the sanctions. So they exacerbated the
war because of that. I mean, these are really really

(13:37):
big decisions, and Joe Biden never once talked about them.
I find that hard to believe.

Speaker 1 (13:42):
Yeah, I'm with you on that one. We're talking with
Daniel Turner, founder executive director of Power of the Future.
You touched it on these briefly, but in your opinion,
how damaging have all these energy eos done to this
country and the security of the country and our energy
drive for energy independence. How much damage has been daall.

Speaker 5 (14:00):
I mean, just look at the last four years of
making energy expensive. And you know they will give you
the caveat that, well, we were tackling the climate crisis,
or we were trying to address global climate change. But
for the average American all it meant was a huge
increase in the cost of living. We saw record high inflation,

(14:20):
we saw record high gas prices, utility prices, food prices.
When you make energy expensive, you make life expensive because
everything around you, everything you can touch, was transported, was manufactured,
was was irrigated, was was brought to you somehow with
energy expensive, energy is expensive life. And so that's what

(14:43):
all these executive orders did. They made life really, really
damn expensive for the American people. And again there's no
evidence that Joe Biden himself directed it, authorized it, even
knew it was happening.

Speaker 2 (14:56):
So look, even in the book they used a quote
from a staffer, if we won, we just had to
show proof of life every once in a while, and
then we would just run. We would just run it
from there. That's a polit of bureau Paul Bureau, if
there ever was one. My question is this, we have
caught the Biden's hand in the cookie jars, administration's hand
in the cookie jar. I don't know how many times
even the stuff he was even might have been aware of.

(15:17):
What kind of justice? What kind? I think there's a
lot of people frustrated that they don't see what the
consequence for this kind of egregious and unprecedented behavior really is.
Is there going to be any kind of justice for
what has been discovered? It's irrefutable now.

Speaker 5 (15:33):
I think there has to be, and I was very
happy to see our report get a lot of media attention.
Jim Comber, who is the head of the Congressional Oversight
Committee in the House, was asked about it, what's going
to happen? Just because well, this is my hunch what's
going to happen. The Biden staffers are going to hide
behind presidential immunity, right, and I don't want every presidential

(15:57):
administration to persecute the previous So I want justice to
be served. But we are in a really bad situation
here where normally chiefs of staff, staff secretaries, white House
personnel don't appear before Congress because it weaponizes the Congress
against the White House. Well, you don't normally have criminal activity,

(16:19):
and when you're impersonating the president, this is criminal activity.
And when it comes to even the auto pen machine,
this is something under lock and key. When you're signing
something with the president's name, when you're forging his signature
on documents, there are lots of decisions involved, lots of
people knew. So I do think you need to have
a thorough investigation, and I don't think the Biden team

(16:43):
can say Nope, not going to appear before Congress congressional immunity. Sadly,
in this sense, guys, the Biden administration also set the president.
Remember they wanted to have Peter Navarro testify and he
said nope, congressional presidential immunity. They stopped him at Reagan
Airport and they pulled him out in shackles with camera
cruise recording. So they set the precedent of what we

(17:05):
will do. And by golly, I think now we have
to follow suit and go after the criminals.

Speaker 1 (17:10):
We do. Daniel as always, great to have me on
the show, and good luck with this effort. We support
you in this. Thank you, Daniel. Thanks guys, Thanks all
right on our news. Make your line. Daniel Turner with
power to the future. All right, more coming up right
here on the Rotten Greg Show. Great to be with you.
I'm brod ar keat.

Speaker 2 (17:26):
Citizen Greg Hughes.

Speaker 1 (17:27):
If you want to be a part of the program
today eight eight eight five seven eight zero one zero. Well, Greg,
we have now officially entered Pride Month. Here we are, Yeah,
here we are.

Speaker 2 (17:36):
You know I had a Pride you know a comedian
who I find very funny. He says that the Black
History Month got absolutely ripped off. They got they got
the shortest month in Chapelle. They they got twenty eight
days for a month. They got the shortest month of
the year. And it's always dark and cold, and it's
not it's not a fun month. Yeah, And he's wondering,

(17:57):
you know, do we have to just wear a little
shorter shorts or what ever to get a better month.
I don't know, he's just it. I'm just saying that
this is what Dave Chappelle, the comedian's saying. You know,
that's what comedians do. They talk about the uncomfortable stuff
and satire and it's funny. But yeah, here we are.
It's Gay Pride month, and uh, I don't know. I
think the blooms off the rose a little bit. I'm
not feeling it as uh as strong and as loud

(18:20):
as proud as I've seen it in the past.

Speaker 1 (18:22):
I love what Chappelle calls gay people. What the alphabet people?

Speaker 2 (18:26):
Yeah, well there are there's there's a lot of letters people. Yeah,
I'm the old school LGBT. I just leave it at LGBT.
I never go the QQ.

Speaker 1 (18:35):
I don't take it to the Q.

Speaker 2 (18:36):
No, I stopped at T.

Speaker 1 (18:38):
Well, remember you used to you you were criticized if
you use the word queer, they like it.

Speaker 2 (18:44):
But you see, if you say every letter up till
the Q, I can see who they're talking about once
you get the Q. So yeah, I don't understand that one. Yeah, okay,
as being by transgender, I thank you.

Speaker 1 (18:58):
Thank you. Uh speaking of that. In the city of Boisee,
who has a mayor who's she's out there right, they
had to cancel a big June sixth affair about Pride
season kickoff, nobody showed up. Yes, they were getting no
response on this, so they response no cancel crickets. Yeah, yeah,

(19:20):
I do.

Speaker 2 (19:21):
I think I think that you know, there's a there's
a point where people wanted to be. Now, look, we
don't want to hate anyone, we don't even want to
feel bad. Sure, you want to be Okay, here's here's
our here's our day, Okay, a month, whatever, and then
they just went so over the top where they made
it so unbelievably. I mean when they started going after
the kids come on, and that's that's where it.

Speaker 1 (19:41):
Just and that's what you've got going on. And joining
us on our Newsmaker line to talk more about this
is our good friend Beth Brella. She is an elections
correspondent as a matter of fact with a federalist, but
wrote about shopping during Pride month and why she maybe
should stay home. Thank you very much for joining us, Beth.
What about this? Why do you say that?

Speaker 6 (20:00):
Well, you know, if you don't want to see it,
you can't get away from it. But it's everywhere, even
at the checkout counters at mom and pop shops. There's
like little kickers and stuff. So if you don't want
to see it, you know, that's fine, but you can
always look the other way, I suppose. But the thing is,
in a lot of cases, this is the month where

(20:20):
they're selling special items and giving money to LGBT related nonprofits. So,
for example, Caribou Coffee is going to donate five thousand
dollars to Rainbow Wardrobe to help people be themselves with

(20:40):
clothing that is quote gender affirming, you know, And if
you don't want to support that, then if you buy
coffee there this month, especially if you buy their tumbler
that they're selling, they have a special LGBT tumblr, then
you're going to be donating into their cause. And if

(21:02):
you don't want to support that stuff, you can't shop
there right now, you know, Beth.

Speaker 2 (21:06):
I saw a meme or something that said, you know,
they took away Joe Camill because they didn't want kids
to be persuaded into smoking. What does Pride Month mean
If you're showing all this to kids and you have
all this happening, and it's the case, it's absolutely the case.
I mean, if they think that there's images out there
that would appeal to or normalize certain things that would
be harmful for kids. Then it's the truth. And they're

(21:30):
still doing this with the Pride Month as prominent as
it is. I guess my question is, with that said,
do you see it toning down a little bit this
year with Trump having been elected? Do you see it
slowing down or do you think it's the same as
it's been or is it getting worse.

Speaker 6 (21:46):
No, there's been a lot of reviews the LGBT community
has been doing, like online reviews of the products that
have come out for the year, and they're complaining that
things are muted this year, and you know, some of
them believe it's because of Trump. Trump, you know, trumping

(22:07):
in office and things are not as friendly. But I submit,
maybe it's not that things aren't friendly, it's just that
we're not really looking in that direction anymore. Whereas in
the previous administration, you know, money and and a lot
of conversation and hiring was very much based on that.

Speaker 2 (22:24):
It was a very.

Speaker 6 (22:25):
Trendy business thing to do. But now I think businesses
are saying, well, maybe we should pull back a little bit,
because from from the top down in our country, this
is you know, falling out of favor, So, for example,
a target. Instead of the bright, crazy colors that are
so much fun, they're doing a lot of pan and

(22:49):
the rainbows are like pin stripes instead of the broad
stripes that we're used to seeing. You know, when you
think about a rainbow flag, there's kind of a certain
whiss of of stripes that you're used to seeing. Well,
now it's like just pin stripes down maybe the side
of a pan jogging pant or something, so it's a
lot more muted. And my favorite is the theme this

(23:14):
year at multiple retailers is to be your authentic self,
which is a great message when you might find it's
church the Eurothentic self, and it's a great message if
you're not spending your lifetime using hormone altering drugs to
lie about your gender.

Speaker 1 (23:36):
Beth, I noticed today I saw a list what I'm
amazed at the number of sports teams, be it basketball, hockey, baseball,
are all now jumping on this parade with all kinds
of pride colors and showing their support for the pride community.
How do you think their fans react.

Speaker 6 (23:53):
To this, Beth, Well, I think that really buys into
the men and women's sports A little bit. And the
thing is, I think a lot of this is pandering
and marketing. I think things like pride months separate us
as humans, and I don't think the LGBT community wants
to be separated, you know, on a one on one basis.

(24:17):
You know, everybody probably knows some owner is related to
someone in that community, and we're friends and we love
each other and when we don't want to be enemies.
But when we separate a group and say you know,
you're different, you're special, that kind of it's a separation
that I think a lot of people, even in their

(24:37):
own community, don't want. I think it's a lot of
marketing and some money maker, just like Christmas is. You know,
in the Christian community, there's testament gum. You can get
e speariment flavored gum. I don't know if they make
it anymore, but it used to be there's like a
long list of Jesus junk I used to keep. Well,
there's like minty flavored gum with a Bible verse on it.

(24:58):
There was a great money made Testaments. But you don't
need those to be a Christian and you don't need
a rainbow T shirt to be part of that community.
If you want to say I'm different than you, put
on the T shirt. If you want to line the
pockets of these companies, buy the crap. You know, there's
Target is selling Bingo cards with every square is a

(25:22):
I don't know if you had Bingo cards on your
Bingo card this year, but you know it's all that's
really geared toward kids. You know, when pardon they have
a lot of party favors and such, which is very
much a kid thing.

Speaker 2 (25:36):
So you know, Beth, I've always believed that all these
corporations that they engage in any of this, this was
all virtue signaling of this most shallow level. I think
they wanted to check a box, they want to get
a good social credit score. They didn't really care. You're
now seeing economists that are coming out without any hint
of politics saying cautioning retailers that if you get into
this Pride month and you get two out far out there,

(25:58):
you run the risk of offend your patrons and it
may impact and will impact your bottom line. So my
question is, with those sentiments being expressed, are we seeing
the downward trend of this? Is this or is this
a blip? I mean, is this. Are we in a
time where we're recoiling, but the pendulum will swing back

(26:18):
and we'll get We'll get it like it was before.
Or is this a fad that is seen, it's last,
its best days behind it.

Speaker 6 (26:25):
I think it kind of depends on how sales are
this year and going forward. Sales really plummet this year. Maybe.
I think the retailers have come out with some really
extra junkie things this year because they're trying to scraddle
the line of appeasing the LGBT community with the rainbow

(26:47):
things they imagine they want and the themes they imagine
they want in their shirts and such, while not offending
people who don't want to support that kind of thing.
I don't think you can do both, and so because
of that, the stuff they're offering to their target audience
is not appealing to their target audience. So if they

(27:09):
keep doing that, it's just gonna flop.

Speaker 1 (27:11):
Beth, thank you very much for joining us as Beth
brilliant she is with the Federalists talking about you know,
don't shop during Gay Pride Month. Now, Greg, when we
come back, you've got a list of events that are
losing a lot of money during this month. It's pretty amazing.

Speaker 2 (27:25):
It is, and I think there's a trend. I think
it's I don't actually, I don't even think it's a trend.
I think it's moved. The pendulum is moving, thankfully away
from how extreme it has gotten and out of control
it has gotten. And I think it's it's overdue.

Speaker 1 (27:37):
This list of events that are losing money pretty impressive,
and we'll talk about it coming up next right here
on the Rotting Greg showing Utah's Talk Radio one oh
five nine kN rs. Before the break, we were talking
about gay Pride and Pride Month, and apparently the shine
has gone off a little bit. You've got a list
of events around the country that are losing money and
losing big money.

Speaker 2 (27:59):
So yeah, these pride events, which are big annual events
all over the country. You see San Francisco's Pride event
is lost two hundred thousand dollars or is in the
back and the Red two hundred thousand. Idaho, as you
mentioned earlier in the programs, Idaho's a Pride event lost
four hundred thousand. The New York City Pride Festival, which

(28:19):
is America's largest festival, two point five million people attended,
last year, they saw corporate sponsorships of MasterCard, Pepsi, Nissan,
City Bank, Price, Waterhouse all withdraw their support. Others other
corporate sponsors are scaling back significantly. They've lost about twenty
five percent of their of their sponsorships. And then Virginia's

(28:43):
biggest Pride fest lost two major sponsors. In Columbus, Ohio,
it's one hundred and twenty five thousand in the whole.
Looks like Pride is going broke.

Speaker 1 (28:53):
Interesting. Interesting, all right, Yet here are sports teams not
only in this state but around the country ready's showing
their support for Pride Month and they're they're getting a
lot of heat for doing this on social media today.

Speaker 2 (29:04):
Greg, Well, look, the problem with it all is that
is when they start going after the kids and advertising
to the kids. It's why you don't. It's like I
said in the interviews. Why you know they took Joe
Cammel away and said, look, tobacco, you're marketing to kids.
This whole thing started moving and started being talked about
in our schools, going after our kids. And that's where
America has just recoiled and recoiled solid.

Speaker 1 (29:24):
Yeah enough enough, all right, we'll talk more about that
and get to your phone calls and a number of issues.
That's all coming up right here, our number two of
the Rody greg Show on his way to stay with us.

Speaker 2 (29:40):
I don't know why our local sports team owner doesn't
get the memo. He's a little behind the curve, I think.
But you know, I woke up today to mammoth, you know,
rainbow colored.

Speaker 1 (29:51):
M colored mammoth. Yeah, the Jazz note. What else was there?
They're all all of them out there too. Yeah, there
are a lot, you know, I'm prized a couple of things.
Major League Baseball getting behind this. I mean that surprised
me a little bit. But there and some NFL teams.
But there are a list of what I read off

(30:11):
about eight or nine teams in the NFL that don't
get behind gay pride. One of them is your Steelers.

Speaker 2 (30:17):
Well it's my whole AFC North. Yeah, I think all AFC.
Norse said, no, thanks for staying out this year.

Speaker 1 (30:22):
Yeah, my Cowboys don't get beside you. Jerry Jones said,
what last year or two years ago? Nope, we don't
get involved.

Speaker 2 (30:27):
They play you know, they played football, Yeah, play sports entertainment.
We just need you to you know, stay out of
all the politics right left center, just stay out of it.
Play sports, Yeah, and that brings us together as Americans,
and we don't do the whole you know, virtue signaling thing,
identity politics thing, that's not sports. His role, that's not
the role of sports. That's the actual that's the great
unifier of all of us. That's what it should be

(30:48):
at least. And you know, I just think I think
these guys are crazy like a fox. I think that
some of this gay pride, it's real good when your
team's not playing right now to get out to you
to go check that.

Speaker 1 (30:59):
That's your theory, right, give us your theory of what
Ryan Smith is doing. Yes, so doing this now for
a reason. Yes, especially when you look at the NHL.
The NHL National Hockey League ran to some problems as
of late. Is they were just on that whole virtue
signaling train. They were doing it all. They're gonna have
their gay pride game and they're gonna do so. They
had these warm up jerseys that were all rainbowed out

(31:20):
that every player is supposed to wear for their warm
ups before the game started. And you've got a lot
of NHL players and a lot of European NHL players.

Speaker 2 (31:27):
You said, uh, I'm not wearing that. I will not
do it, and you can't force me. And all of
a sudden, all the this is the Islanders, it's the Flyers,
it's a lot of these teams. Instead of it being
their big virtue signaling check box box they checked. All
the negative attention was all these players that refused to
wear these jerseys and they were it was like it

(31:48):
was worse than if they had never engaged at all
in it. So the NHL said, you know what, We're
going to back away from this a little bit. Uh,
They're not going to force these players to wear these
warm up jerseys. They kind of lowered the tone. And
I think that Ryan Smith, if he's smart about the Mammoth,
he's he's gonna, you know, we're all gonna wake up
to a rainbow mammoth this morning in June. Yeah, and

(32:09):
come season starts in october Na.

Speaker 1 (32:12):
But you were you were telling me you and your
wife went to one of the games last year, yes, right,
and there were the teen yeah Utah Hockey Club hanging around.

Speaker 2 (32:25):
I think they they they were calling it the Pride
Game or whatever. Earlier in the season, as the season
rolled out, as politics was starting to change underneath people's feet.
I saw a few splashes of rainbows here and there,
kind of in the arbitron, you know the thing. I
saw it along the kind of the you know, along
the side where their advertising. Yeah, they just splashed it

(32:48):
a little bit here, a little bit there. Certainly no jerseys,
warm up jerseys, no uh, no big moment, no giving
the puck a rainbow puck to somebody in the center
ice or anything like that. So it's I think it's uh,
it's dreaming it is.

Speaker 1 (33:01):
And so if it was in January February, yeah, I
agree with that. I don't think Ryan Smith would be
doing it.

Speaker 2 (33:07):
I don't think we'd see these logos all decorated up
like you saw today if it was during the season.

Speaker 1 (33:12):
But if it's June, Jad certainly aren't in the player.

Speaker 2 (33:16):
They're Virtue. They're checking the Virtue signal box. But even
that I think is going to be short lived. I
think people are done. I do. I think it's I
just think it's he gets credit for doing it, you know,
Silicon slopes. I think the tech world still super liberals.
I don't know that they'll ever.

Speaker 1 (33:31):
Not I'll never give it up. But here's what I
don't understand, Greg, Why do they need a month like this?
You asked yourself that that question? Why?

Speaker 4 (33:40):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (33:41):
I mean remember we talked to was it the mayor
of Midvale or Murray? And he wrote this op ed
p op ed peach in the Salt Lake Midvale thank you?
He right, and talked about you know, it validates who
we are by hanging a gay pride flag in your
city building or in classroom.

Speaker 7 (33:58):
Right.

Speaker 1 (33:59):
I don't understand that. I mean, if you need validation
as to hear who you are just being a good
human being.

Speaker 2 (34:06):
Yeah, there's a lot of ways that we wear different
hats in life.

Speaker 1 (34:08):
Yeah, different to do it.

Speaker 2 (34:11):
Yeah, And I don't know that why that one would
be the sole way you would want to identify yourself
as a human being?

Speaker 1 (34:17):
Is you know?

Speaker 2 (34:19):
Is that by itself? I just find that odd. I mean, again,
we all wear different hats, we have different roles in life,
and I think that we're we are defined by things
far greater than our sexual preference.

Speaker 1 (34:31):
And isn't it the way we treat each other, the
way we support our community? I mean, isn't that isn't
that important?

Speaker 4 (34:37):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (34:37):
And I showed you a video during the there was
an ex post here where they had a pride, a
gay pride awareness at a preschool, Like they had these
little kids lined up and they're even yes, And I mean,
I'm going this is not It's I wouldn't want to
have a Playboy bunny heterosexual awareness pride for these little kids.
I mean, it's just it isn't appropriate. And they've gone

(34:59):
so far far that I just think that common sense
Americans have recoiled to an extent that look, MasterCard, Pepsi, Nissan, City,
City Bank, these are major corporations and they are withdrawing,
not just saying we're going to lower or scale back
these These companies I just mentioned withdrew from the largest

(35:20):
America's largest gay pride festival.

Speaker 1 (35:22):
What do you think would happen? Greg? And you you
touched on this, But if Playboy are they still around?
I don't know, I don't know, you know, but if
they were invited to a school with some of the
bunnies yes okay, dressed up in the bunny attire, yes,
and gave kids little bunny ears to wear and march
them around school, what do you think would happen?

Speaker 2 (35:41):
I think it'd be highly inappropriate and every parent would
be upset that that that was going on in the school,
and you'd want to check these principals and teachers for
check their heads, see what they're thinking. Why because we
don't we don't want to celebrate, you know that. Yeah,
even though it would probably be anonymous with heterosexuality or whatever,

(36:02):
you know, I or what your sexual preference is. I
don't think sexual preference in children are two things that
ought to be combined. I don't. I just it is
the craziest thing. And then that's one part of it,
sexualizing minors. But then you talk about wanting to change
the gender of a minor, yes, I mean chemically castrate.

Speaker 1 (36:22):
Yeah, not change. I mean you're talking about mutilation.

Speaker 2 (36:25):
Yes, I mean it is. And this is now something
that's socially acceptable. It is not socially acceptable. There's nothing
about this. Let children be children, and they don't. They
don't want they they they there's no limits to this.
And you know, this is how they catch you. They say, well,
be tolerant, you know, and then and then be accepting
and then be embraced. I mean they just keep pushing, pushing, push.

Speaker 1 (36:48):
You know, It's interesting, Greg, the whole trans thing has
been absorbed in this, this whole movement that we have
in this country today. Remember what was it one or
two years ago when we started, you know, the first
story about a trans athlete came up and people were
raised and what were those who were defending this? They
were saying, it doesn't happen very often. Don't worry about
it will only be one or two incidents. You don't
have to worry about boys you're bullying. You see what

(37:11):
happened this weekend at high school events around the country,
track meets California. Guy took first and second in a
couple events Oregon, there were several states. So you know,
I don't worry about It's not going to happen very much.
Guess what is happening all the time. As a matter
of fact, I love this. The Trump administration today decided
to give Pride Month a little competition. Good So. Linda McMahon,

(37:34):
Education Secretary, announced today that June is now being recognized
as title nine Months Good by the Trump administration. No
longer Pride Month protecting Girls. It will be honored all
title nine Months Good Good. I think that's great, you know,
that argument about well it's only a few people.

Speaker 2 (37:54):
I know when I heard it, it didn't make any sense.
So I said, well, if it's if it's more people
that you're going to ban, you somehow feel like that's better.
So if it was thousands of kids that one of
the boys that wanted to play girl sports, then you'd
be okay with with banning it. It never made any sense.
They tried to argue that this was just rare. You'll
never decimal dust of statistics. It's in our Olympics, then

(38:17):
it's in our NCAA finals, then it's in our high schools,
track meets it. It's it, and the number of students
that boys that want to play girl sports was never relevant.
The fact is boys should not play real sports, and
look the sport I love boxing. They went into a deep,
deep dive into this and they have concluded okay, And

(38:37):
they actually came into this open minded. The American Boxing Council,
which actually helped states in their boxing commissions. Once a
child has entered puberty is coming out of puberty. It
doesn't The blockers don't matter anymore. There's nothing to matter.
There's nothing you're going to do to take a male,
even after after they've been through puberty. That's going to
make them competitive with women. They'll have an advantage over

(39:00):
women in recovery time, in oxygen and take everything over
over females and you. It's just not a fair level
playing field. It's so it's they tried, they went.

Speaker 1 (39:11):
Through every look at it, They looked at.

Speaker 2 (39:13):
Everything, and it's not in as fundamentally it is not
is not fair.

Speaker 1 (39:17):
All right, when we come back, what the Jazz did
and Ryan Smith did with a hockey team and the
basketball team. Social media is having a field day with
it today. I'd like to know what our what our
listeners think when the teams do that. I mean, it's
their team, they knew whatever they want, but they're also
part of our community.

Speaker 2 (39:34):
Well, and they do depend on fans.

Speaker 1 (39:36):
Do depend on fans, and that's how the Bills get
get your thoughts. Yeah, eight eight eight five seven o
eight zero one zero eight eight eight five seven o
eights or a one zero. When we come back, we'll
talk about what a couple of girls did when it
comes to competing against a boy in a girls sport.
We'll tell you that and get your phone calls on
all of this. Eight eight eight five seven o eight
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(39:57):
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Hey Rod, we'll get to your calls and comments coming
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Speaker 2 (40:03):
They're hoping that everybody forgets about October when the season
starts for NBA and for the NBA.

Speaker 1 (40:08):
By the way, Nahl, hey sent me a note. Send
us a note while we were during the break. The
Texas Rangers the only Major League Baseball team that will
not have a Pride Night this year.

Speaker 2 (40:19):
That will not.

Speaker 1 (40:20):
That will not.

Speaker 2 (40:21):
Everybody else will.

Speaker 1 (40:22):
Everybody else will, including your pirates and my game.

Speaker 2 (40:27):
I actually heard you wrong. I thought they were the
only team that were going on.

Speaker 1 (40:30):
Oh, they're the only ones not going to have it.
All right, we're getting your reaction. Lines are open to you.
Eight eight eight five seven oh eight zero one zero
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go to the phones. Here's Adam and Orum tonight. Adam,
how are you welcome to the Rodding Gregg Show.

Speaker 5 (40:47):
Good?

Speaker 8 (40:48):
Yeah, you know, I just wanted to comment with Ryan Smith,
and he sure seems to want quite an input of
the fans for picking the logo for the the Mommoth
the hockey team.

Speaker 5 (41:00):
But yeah, I think.

Speaker 8 (41:01):
He'd be surprised to see what the fans think about,
you know, the jazz of the man of celebrating Pride month.
You know, I think he'd probably be surprised the amount
of people that would disagree with that.

Speaker 2 (41:13):
I agree at him, I really do. I think I
think you're right. He does always go to the people
for you know, the different surveys, everything else he did
that they did. It was a Utah jazz. But Ryan
Smith spearheaded a scholarship program for black Yes he did.
And it bothered me so much because it really should
be based on the color of your skin, this this scholarship.
It should really be kids that are poor, that don't

(41:36):
have a chance to get to school.

Speaker 1 (41:37):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (41:38):
Uh. And I saw a comedian who made this joke
that said, you know, when your powers turned off, what
difference does it make what color of your skin? When
you're when your power's been shut off because no one
can afford to pay it the bills, and and it
should be those those individuals, those young people who are
who are live in poverty and don't have a lot
of opportunities that scholarships ought to be prioritized for not

(42:00):
someone who's happens to be black, unless he unless Ryan
Smith is suggesting every black person in Utah is poor
and has their power getting turned off and isn't eaten
or going to school hungry every day. Maybe he thinks
they're just all black people, but it's not true. People
of different different colors of skin actually do face a
lot of financial challenges and should be eligible for scholarships

(42:22):
like that, not just black people.

Speaker 1 (42:23):
You know, it was what about a month ago that
they introduced the logo, the new name and the logo
for the Mammoth. Yeah right, great logo. I love it
now it's in Pride colors, any kind of I saw it.
Just just just leave it alone, please.

Speaker 2 (42:39):
You know, I'm telling you that that sports is the
great unifier. It is what brings us all together. We
love it. You know, I have a family. This isn't
for just guys. I mean, are my family of you know,
Queen Bee, my daughter Sophie, my our whole family. And
then my grandmother took me to all these baseball games
as I was growing up. My aunt Patty, we all
love football. We all loved all of our home teams.
We've loved them all baseball, without regard to gender, without

(43:02):
regard anything. That is what sports is in America. And
when people start to play this identity politics with our sports, man,
you're ruining our sports. Leave it alone, stay away from it.
Find ways for all of us to cheer and high
five each other and embrace the same common goal of winning.

Speaker 1 (43:22):
You know, that's it. I was just thinking, do they
feel greg that because we love our sports teams, that
those teams can get away with almost anything and fans
will still show up? Well, because they do. I mean,
it's sad, but it's true.

Speaker 2 (43:40):
Well, yeah, no, it is true.

Speaker 1 (43:42):
Let's look at the Jazz this year. Okay, a horrible team,
worst record, I think ever, I think for the Jazzy
e Ray would know that for sure, but the fans
still showed up. That's loyalty. But when they do something
like this, which is a very divisive issue, but fans
still show up, and I go, Okay, maybe we're just
fine with.

Speaker 2 (44:03):
I had not on this topic of Pride month, but
on topic of just lousy baseball. I had this conversation
with my wife. She's like, so you went to San
Diego to see those that lousy team play. You just
complained to me for a half hour about how bad
they are, but yet you went to put watch them. Well,
the Pirates, they enjoy a fan base that doesn't really
have anything to do with the score, because you grew

(44:25):
up with it. It's part of your family life, it's
part of your what you I mean, it's just so, Yeah,
there is a there is a degree of fan base
that comes with some of these teams that where they
can pretty much do anything because you want your kids
to experience it like you experienced it when you were young,
and you just you grow up with the sounds of summer,
like baseball, whatever it may be. I'm just telling you that, yeah,

(44:45):
that's true, but you can abuse it. I'm telling you
that you you can ride that for a long time.
But at some point, you know, teams have come and
teams have gone, and they can they can they can
play it too far, go too far.

Speaker 1 (44:58):
But I'm wondering if if someone like Ryan Smith, okay,
owner of the Jazz and owner of the Mammoth, is thinking, well,
look how much joy I'm bringing to this this this city,
and I can basically get away with anything, even if
I offend a few people. I'm not worried about it
because there'll be fans out there to replace them.

Speaker 2 (45:15):
Yeah. No, I look, I mean Ryan Smith's in a
little different relationship because a lot of a lot of
the Jazz it's it was Larry H. Miller, it was
Gail Miller, the Miller's, you know, they they brought this
team here. Remember they were split in half the season
here and half of it in Vegas. I mean it
was a wing and a prayer. And so I think
a lot of Utahns grew up really supporting Larry H. Miller,

(45:36):
supporting Jazz with Ryan Smith as the owner, and really
bringing this new because I don't think you would have
seen any of this with Larry H. Miller, these Pride
Knights and everything else.

Speaker 1 (45:45):
Now, I had always heard Greg I'm not sure if
this is true, but the Miller, you know, Gail Miller
made the decision to sell the Jazz because she didn't
like the direction the league was taken. Yeah, and maybe
that was one of the reasons she said I'm walking away.

Speaker 2 (45:58):
Yeah, I'm telling you that I think that he could
lose more of a fan base than other teams have,
franchises have. If you take a storied family that owned him,
like the Millery, they leave. Ryan Smith comes in here
and if he gets I mean, if you can do
this for so long, but it looks like again, if MasterCard, Pepsi,

(46:18):
Nissan City Bank are all getting out of this game.
He got to be staring at that point. What do
they know that I don't?

Speaker 1 (46:24):
Yeah eight eight eight five seven o eight zero one
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Rod and Greg show. What was the kid's name, Abe,
Garci or Gonzalez, something like that. I have got that
story up in front of me. But apparently now you
have what is this great a co champion?

Speaker 2 (46:45):
Now they're going to share. They're going to share their
ship California. They they I'm looking at it. The podium.
They'll they'll put two. They'll put the boy that wins
the girl sport and then the girl who won the
girl sport. They'll put them stay on the podium together
as co champions. That yes, the boy that won was
ab Hernandez and he won the he won the track

(47:09):
and field competitions, won titles and a couple events, and
he got the stand on I'm looking at the picture.
He had to stand on the number one you know
that one, two and three. Yeah, and he got to
stand on the number one column with the co champion
other people that want so and acting very feminine. He's
more feminine the girls in that picture. It's just I
think he's really trying hard to earn his spot on

(47:31):
that number one you know stage there. But yeah, I
I just once, it's just I think it's bizarre world,
and I think that this is the stuff where common
common sense Americans are just looking at this going, yeah,
this does none of this makes any sense. And the
Democrats don't know how to unwind from any of that.
They don't they They can keep talking about we need
to attract more men into our party. Well, this is

(47:52):
one of your problems is that you you want your
men to play girls sports. Okay, that's not what guys
want to do, and that's in this When this becomes
your clarion call as a political party, you're losing a
lot of a lot of just common sense people. And
then guys nobody wants to who want?

Speaker 4 (48:09):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (48:10):
I don't know anyone who would look at that co
champion arrangement there and think that that makes any sense
at all. It makes no because if you were going
to let them play and compete and they win, then
they would win. But now you're saying, Okay, you're gonna
be a winner. We're gonna have another winner too. It's
actually going to be the female in the sport too.
Both of you are going to be winners. Now, come on,

(48:32):
it's just getting more bizarre.

Speaker 1 (48:33):
The creative way now is to allow a trans woman,
trans girl into the competition, and if he wins, he's
not really the champion. He's a co champion. Yeah, that's
the way they work around it.

Speaker 2 (48:47):
Yeah, and I think President Trump's had it. I think
he's and look.

Speaker 1 (48:51):
I think the American people event and just.

Speaker 2 (48:52):
So you know, this isn't something new that that Trump invented.
When I was when I was in the legislature, and
you know, I was there when when Jorane W. Bush
was president. I was there when Obama was president and
with h and with Trump, with both with both George W.
Bush and Obama. When it came to education, you were
you're there fed the federal funds they sent to the

(49:13):
state of Utah for whatever they want to do, No
child left behind, race to the top. Those are the
two education you know, objectives of those two administrations, Bush
and Obama. You would get You would have the threat
of that money being withheld if you didn't comply with
the federal rules. So when Trump says to California, there
are federal rules about boys don't play girls sports, you're

(49:35):
violating them. You do run risk of your federal education funds.
And that wouldn't be new again. Other presidents have done it,
and Trump's doing.

Speaker 1 (49:43):
Would you support Do you support that even though other people,
other athletes in the system would be hurt by the
loss of federal funds, not just the trans athletes, the
other athletes.

Speaker 2 (49:53):
No, the federal funds are worse than that. Rather, they're
scarier than that. They're for Title one, they're for free
and reduced lunch. Yeah, they're for specialized education.

Speaker 1 (50:00):
So if he yanked the money, yes, I mean yes,
a lot of kids would be nothing to do with sports.

Speaker 2 (50:06):
Or getting hurt. So, and what it's meant to do
is to compel the state if you're taking their federal money. Okay,
and if you take the money, this is where this is.
This is the deal with the devil. Yep, this is
the deal with the devil. You make if you take
the money and you don't do what they say, you
can lose that money. And that money impacts your free
and reduced lunch, your Title one kids, free and reduced
lunch kids, and your special ed. So usually schools in

(50:29):
every state sober up and they and they do what
they're asked, or they don't get the federal funds. For years,
we've always talked about how does the state of Utah
wean itself off those federal funds that percentage wise it
might sound like a small amount, it still represents hundreds
of millions of dollars. I think that the way Trump suggested,
where you get rid of the Department of Education entirely,

(50:51):
so there are no strings, and then that money is
block granted. The federal dollars you pay that they would
otherwise use for education for your state, those dollars are
block granted back to the state Board of Education of
your respective state, and they prioritize those dollars.

Speaker 1 (51:08):
Am I wrong in this one? Greg? As? I see
these stories coming out, I asked myself, where are the dads? Yeah, yeah,
and now we and maybe they're speaking out in places
like California and in Oregon and other and now in
the state of Washington. But where are the fathers Because
I've always felt the fathers have a very special relationship

(51:31):
with their daughters. Yep, you do, I do, absolutely, yes,
I you have ever and fathers have a various and
to see their young girls go to these practices, be
a dance, be a track and veiled but I don't
care whatever, and being there support them. And then they
get to the end where they're the possibility of being
a champion, and they've worked their butts off, yes, to

(51:53):
get there. Where are the fathers saying this is enough?

Speaker 9 (51:58):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (51:58):
I don't. I I could not sit. I've seen my
daughter injured. I've seen her she had her coller broke,
her collarbone broke in a collision playing high school soccer.
And these are two girls. If if that had been
a guy playing and my daughter's collarbone was broken, there's

(52:18):
just there's just my the reaction for me would would
I I It wouldn't have been a choice. But it's
it's I don't to your point. I don't know how
a father could watch their their daughter compete against a boy,
be harmed or injured or even beaten by a boy,
and be okay with that and the emotional toll it
takes on, and it's it's it's so fundamentally unfair for
these girls. Look, there's so many roster spots. If there's

(52:40):
a guy on that team, know that there's a girl
that didn't make that team. Okay, that's just the reality
of of of sports. There's so many roster spots. And
if you're playing, if you're if there's a guy on
that field, there's a girl that was taking that opportunity
was taken from her to be on that that girl's team.

Speaker 1 (52:56):
So now, so far, we've we've seen stories like this,
circuit surface and track and field, swimming, volleyball, yes, basketball,
I haven't seen any of basketball or soccer. And it'll
be interesting to see boxing or well boxing, yeah yeah, wrestling,
it has has it. I think it has wrong.

Speaker 2 (53:17):
On that boxing in the Olympics, that poor girl got
her nose broken by the guy.

Speaker 1 (53:21):
Yeah yeah, crazy, yeah, But there were you know, I'm
looking at this story today. There were two girls in
Oregon who were on there was a transgender issue, they
were on the podium, they turned their back on them.

Speaker 2 (53:33):
Good good for them, and hats off to the to
the Utah State girls who who in the same we
are in participating and other schools joined them. Yeah, and
that was important. I thought that was an important statement,
and I think it's helped. I think it's helped this
recoil that's happening in the United States. And it had
to happen. I mean, we were either going to go

(53:54):
into off the cliff and into oblivion or we were
going to try to be normalized. And I think we
are normalizing.

Speaker 7 (54:01):
I do.

Speaker 2 (54:01):
I think it's we're not there yet.

Speaker 1 (54:03):
I would hope. I would hope right now Greg that
as of tomorrow, the the Trump administration says to California
or your money's gone bye.

Speaker 2 (54:10):
I think he actually sent Old Newsent a letter Gruesome
Newsom and said you're gonna You're gonna lose your education funds.
You keep playing this game.

Speaker 1 (54:18):
All right? More coming up it is the Rod and
Greg Show with you on this Monday afternoon right here
on Utah's Talk Radio one oh five nine k NRS.

Speaker 2 (54:26):
I'm citizen Greg Hughes.

Speaker 1 (54:27):
And I brought our kid great to be with you
on this Monday afternoon. We're talking about Gay Pride Month,
what our sports teams have been doing here in the
state of Utah. The issue with the transgender athletes, this
this really doesn't do this effort a lot of good.
Greg a transgender athlete, told her booing critics after dominating
the girls Washington State track high school championship for a

(54:50):
second year in a row, to quote, get a life.
That's gonna help that cause? Yeah, yeah, yeah, I will.
Seventeen year old Veronica Garcia won the last to a
four hundred meter dash by nearly a second, a year
after becoming the state's first trans athlete to win a
stite state title. The Ease Valley High School athlete has

(55:11):
been heckled throughout the day and faced open criticism from
attendees and competitors. Got booed at the awards ceremony, and
he looked at people and said, folks, get a life.

Speaker 2 (55:22):
Yeah, well that's I think the invitation should be extended
to that gentleman.

Speaker 1 (55:26):
That young man as well.

Speaker 2 (55:28):
Yep, yeah, yeah, no, it's it's I just think, just
to land on this topic, I just think that The
good news for me is that you have an administration
that is going to hold these states accountable that are
allowing this competition that's fundamentally unfair and harming women. You've
got Linda McMahon who's saying that this is title nine
a month and they're making it, you know, girls and sports,

(55:50):
girls having equal opportunities in our schools, be it, you know,
K through twelve and higher ed. I think there's I
think there's a lot of good things happening on this
front that just couple of years ago, it just looked
like he was getting worse every single year. I mean, yeah,
you know, you just hadd just some of the clothes
that Target and some of these other big retailers were
offering the children were just so yeah over sent.

Speaker 1 (56:13):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (56:14):
So I think we're I think we're I think we're
we're self correcting here.

Speaker 1 (56:17):
Ope, so hope. So, staying on the topic of sports,
how would you like to be the number one draft
pick in the NBA and have to take a pay cut?
Is there a story?

Speaker 2 (56:29):
Is it? I guess Cooper Flag okay.

Speaker 1 (56:32):
Considered you know, a generational athlete from Duke University likely
to be the number one pick for the Dallas Mavericks.
When when I think the draft is in a month
or two, I think something like that, you know, and
he'll be the number one draft pick, right. And there's
a cap I think in the NBA on how much? Yeah,
their salary cap. Well, he apparently does need it. There's

(56:53):
a story out today saying he reportedly made are you
ready for this? Twenty eight million? That's with an m
million dollars in nil money in one season at.

Speaker 9 (57:05):
Duke at one in one season, one season at Duke. Wow,
twenty eight million dollars. Yeah, there's gonna this. There's something
you're gonna have to think about. How again, that pendulum
you you had?

Speaker 2 (57:18):
You had? You had? Ohio State was prohibited from playing
in bowl games because their students got free haircuts and
tattoos and they signed jerseys and helmets and footballs to
get a free to get a free haircut. And they
were suspended from playing in in bowl games or being
ranked because of the haircut for signature, the haircut scandal.

(57:41):
And now you got kids making twenty plus million a year.
Come on, Wow, it's just it's just ridiculous. Wow, nobody
knows how to just chill? Can anyone do anything normal.
We just need something normal, like give the get let
the kid not starve while he's a student. Give me
some run around money, you know, the little money. Pay
for his parents to come see the game for him

(58:02):
and say twenty millions come on twenty days.

Speaker 1 (58:06):
So out of it is just out of way, and
it isn't Trump looking at this, I mean, as he
looked at who am I thinking of Nick Saban? Maybe
to head up a commission and exploit I think that's
one of the reasons. And Saban had said this why
he left college coaching. He didn't want to have to
deal with this and il money anymore. Well, coaching, he
probably did under the table for a long long time.

Speaker 2 (58:26):
But people say that, but I'll tell you this, there
is no accountability that the student athletes will have to
live with. If they're making millions, they can go to
another school and get that money. And if a coach
is hard ar them or doesn't start them, they'll go
somewhere else.

Speaker 1 (58:41):
Yeah, they sure will. They just pack up and leave,
all right. More coming up our number three of the
Robbin Regg Show, a uranium mine in Utah could be happening.
We'll talk about it next day with us. Right now, Greg,
you've talked about this before. I don't think people realize

(59:05):
how mineral rich the state of Utah is, but we
can't touch it. Yeah. One of the sad things is
we can't do anything about it.

Speaker 2 (59:13):
Ninety six percent of the earth rare minerals are extracted
processed in China, of all places, and the irony being
that here in the state of Utah we are those
rare minerals are in abundance. We have it. We've had
an industry in the past, and we need one desperately now.

Speaker 1 (59:29):
Yeah. Yeah, Well, President Trump signed an executive order to
support mining critical minerals and that could lead to the
opening of the uranium mind here in the state of Utah.
I'll let Leslie Eastman joining us. She is a writer
with Legal Insurrection. She wrote about this. Leslie, how are
you welcome to the Rod and Greg Show.

Speaker 4 (59:48):
A great talking to you two gentlemen. Love your intro music.

Speaker 1 (59:55):
Well, we try and get too charged up if we can, Leslie. Leslie,
tell us about what the President is done and how
that may benefit Utah when it comes to the mining
of very important minerals.

Speaker 4 (01:00:06):
Well, it's very exciting development.

Speaker 10 (01:00:08):
It's for Utah and for California, which is my home state,
but let's focus on Utah because that's where you guys live.
He really he focused in and got the Department of Interior,
headed by of course Doug Burgham, to expedite the approval
for the velvet Wood uranium and vanadium mine in southeastern

(01:00:30):
Utah to be reopened. I did not know this, but
apparently he had had been opened for a while and
produced a good quantity of both uranium oxide and vanadium oxide.
And then in the nineteen eighties eighty four to be specific,
it was shuttered down, and so they expedited the opening

(01:00:53):
of it. And it's going to be opened reopened by
a Canadian company called Anfield Energy, who is really it's
really interesting. They take the minerals and then they are
going to go ahead and try and develop our nuclear industry.

Speaker 4 (01:01:10):
The other words is nuclear energy.

Speaker 10 (01:01:12):
So it is an exciting development for Utah and for
the rest of the country, and I am super excited
about it.

Speaker 2 (01:01:18):
So Leslie, it seems like a convergence of a few
issues that are coming together I think for very good things.
One the left in all of the energy or all
their excitement against power generation, and I've always been against
all of it. Once they found out that AI and
some of the technology required so much energy, all nuclear
is fine, especially these modular units that are smaller, they

(01:01:40):
became very bullish about all energy generation. Then you have
you have this uranium and rare minerals that we are
dangerously you know, dependent on China and other countries for.
And now you have a Biden ministry or a Trump
administration that's undoing the Biden and past administrative large s
that never got these things approved, and you're seeing it

(01:02:01):
done in record time. That perfect storm. Tell me what
America looks like, what Utah looks like in the future,
given the appetite for energy, the rare minerals here, and
an administration that wants to get going.

Speaker 10 (01:02:13):
Now, well, I'm hoping it's good. The trend lines seem positive.
But we do have to of course undo the we'll
say the Earth in our nuclear energy development program because
of the fair generated by through Nine Island and the
press generated hysteria. But I think the trend lines are

(01:02:37):
very good. In fact, I went and developed another.

Speaker 11 (01:02:41):
Sister piece to the Peace on Uranium, dealing with other
rare earths and minerals because California has a large lithium
deposit that finally is being processed and developed.

Speaker 4 (01:02:55):
Additionally, it's probably.

Speaker 10 (01:02:57):
Not widely known, but the Trump's order also included delving
into getting these minerals from outer water sources. And there
is a Clarion Clipperdon zone in the Pacific Ocean rich
in deep sea nodules that have quite a bit of
rares and critical minerals, so I believe they're targeting that.

Speaker 4 (01:03:21):
And then what is even more.

Speaker 10 (01:03:23):
Exciting is that part of the component to all of
this is processing it because China owns a lot of
the processing capabilities.

Speaker 4 (01:03:31):
Well, one of the.

Speaker 10 (01:03:34):
Anty minerals that is working on the mountain Pine Past
nine in California partnered with Saudi Rabia to a complex
project that includes processing such minerals.

Speaker 4 (01:03:46):
So we're going to have.

Speaker 10 (01:03:49):
Sources outside of China now mining and processing. And I
think the trends are to continue robustly developing it as
long as we have sensible leadership in place in Washington,
DC and we are not hindered by environmental policy.

Speaker 1 (01:04:07):
That's a key point. Effective leadership would be very, very
valuable at this point. Leslie Leslie. This Velvet would mine
near Utah's Lisbon Valley, which I mean, do we have
any idea the impact on the economy this could have
for that area of the state, because there are some
rural areas here in the state that they're just starving
for an economy. Greg speaks about this all the time.

(01:04:29):
You know, a lot of it happens along the Wasatatch
Front here in Salt Lake City north and south, but
some of these rural areas don't see that development. I
would imagine this is going to pump some money into
that community.

Speaker 10 (01:04:40):
I would imagine quite a bit, and especially if the
nuclear energy programs start robustly developing. And again, if we
want to compete with China regarding AI, we have to
have sources of energy to support the AI. And you
got two choices when it comes to civilization worth the energy.

(01:05:01):
You got nuclear and you got fossil fuels because the
others just can't, as we've seen in Europe, really can't
sustain you know, civilization quantities of energy production. So uh,
you choose your choose your poison nuclear or or fossil fuels.

Speaker 4 (01:05:19):
But it's not poison.

Speaker 10 (01:05:20):
But you get what you say. You have to make
a decision that's sensible based on efficiency, based on on
energy efficiency and how it's generated and how much you
put into it.

Speaker 4 (01:05:30):
And nuclear is robustly efficient.

Speaker 10 (01:05:33):
It is if you can really develop it and safely.

Speaker 4 (01:05:37):
And I think they've come a long way.

Speaker 10 (01:05:40):
We should really be taking advantage of it, especially with
you know, building up Utah, building using our resources wise
and we now have the tools to really take the minds,
take the resources and leave it as good, if not
better then we found it. So a lot of good
stuff can happen if we're allowed.

Speaker 4 (01:05:58):
To do it.

Speaker 2 (01:05:58):
So this is so, and tell me you talk about
having finally having the tools. We have other parts of
our state, rural Utah, Grand County, for instance, it used
to have a strong mining industry. We have rare minerals
in that county. It's in the Moab area of our state.
Can we can we draw conclusions from the permitting of
this mine in eastern Utah, south central eastern Utah to

(01:06:23):
Grand County. Is there a process? Do you think that
an environment where the permitting for extraction of rare minerals
could happen in other parts of Utah, not just this,
It's not just this one area, this one mine.

Speaker 10 (01:06:35):
Yes, I believe so because of again Donald Trump invoking
the Defense Production Act and also just shall we say,
there's reasons our defense industry should be receiving a priority.
And I think we look no farther than what happened
this weekend between Ukraine and Russia that maybe it's a

(01:06:55):
good idea to really build up our resource versus an
ability to produce our own materials and support.

Speaker 11 (01:07:05):
Our military with what we can build and take.

Speaker 1 (01:07:10):
So yeah, very important. Amen to that, Leslie. Leslie is
always great to having me on the show. I know
we'll have you back soon. Thank you very much for
joining us tonight.

Speaker 10 (01:07:18):
Thank you guys for all you do, really appreciate.

Speaker 9 (01:07:21):
Thank you.

Speaker 1 (01:07:21):
That's Leslie Eastman. She is a writer at Legal Insurrection.
Big deal, Greg, If he fast tracks a lot of
this stuff, you watch this, this country's going to take
off when it comes to the end.

Speaker 2 (01:07:30):
So funny. I was asked this question a little about
a month ago. What was what I thought the prospects
were for permitting the extraction of rare minerals or processing
the rooms. I don't know, even with Trump, it's got
to be years. I can't see I can't see. And
then this one came I think within four eighteen was
it seventeen days?

Speaker 1 (01:07:49):
It was eleven days?

Speaker 2 (01:07:49):
Eleven days. So look, if we are that serious and
we can get some of these things done, there is
America has a lot of energy independence, a natural rare minerals.
But boy does Utah have quite yeah, uh yeah, an opportunity.

Speaker 1 (01:08:06):
I think what is so exciting it's the emphasis here
in the state taking a look at nuclear power. Yes,
I'm I never heard it. You're aware of some things
going on out there, but it's very exciting.

Speaker 2 (01:08:16):
I can think of three independent efforts that are that
are all in and they're significant and looking at again
power generation. Uh with these modul nuclear modular uh came.

Speaker 1 (01:08:28):
These aren't the big plants. I mean we need to
have Maybe we'll get someone on someday and explain what
they're talking about, these nuclear modular plants and what they
could do.

Speaker 2 (01:08:35):
And they'll be afraid of those big ones though, because
Microsoft just bought three Mile Islands, so they're not you know, Oh,
Bill Gates isn't worried about it anymore. So I'm telling
you that nuclear was always getting a bad rap. But
there's there are more efficient ways to do it now
and we need it, so yeah, let's go all right.

Speaker 1 (01:08:51):
Coming up next on the Rod and Greg Show on
this Monday evening, some Democratic polls are out and it
shows the party excuse me, is in the toilet. We'll
talk about that.

Speaker 2 (01:09:03):
It is the Rotten Gregg Show, well timed here on
Utah's Talk radio one oh five nine. Can r s folks,
Rod if you heard us. Right before the break, he
went into a coughing fit I quickly, so you know when,
and I grabbed it. I had I had peanuts and
and almonds for him, and I said, here your coffee here,
eat some peanuts, eat some walnuts. You'll feel better. He

(01:09:25):
didn't take them. Yeah, you turn, you wonder why, Yeah,
I'm sure they would.

Speaker 1 (01:09:29):
Eat peanuts when you're on the air. Anything nuts. No,
you should not eat coffee fit.

Speaker 2 (01:09:34):
I would imagine that the almonds and peanuts would just
help your cough.

Speaker 1 (01:09:37):
The worst thing for you. You're trying to choke me
even more.

Speaker 2 (01:09:43):
Why you know some people offer water. I offer you peanuts. Yeah, yeah, thanks, Yeah,
we're here for you.

Speaker 1 (01:09:49):
Well, the the Democrats say they're going to make an
all out effort. It's matter of fact, him walls over
the weekend, little tampon, Timmy.

Speaker 2 (01:09:56):
Uh, it's gonna be meaner.

Speaker 1 (01:09:57):
We're gonna be we need to be meaner.

Speaker 2 (01:09:59):
Yeah, got to be meaner. Okay, yeah, okay, Timmy, with
your hand weaves with your with your little happy hands.
Why don't you get a little meaner. Yeah, that's what
we need.

Speaker 1 (01:10:07):
Happy hands.

Speaker 2 (01:10:08):
Yeah, just say he is a little happy hands. Her
down on the stage. He's got his happy hands waving.

Speaker 1 (01:10:13):
Well. There was a poll release by CNN, and it
shows that the Democratic Party will they're kind of in
the toilet, I mean, on a number of fronts. First,
don't tell them, we don't mind them there, I don't mind.
We don't swear we don't mind this at all. But
apparently a vast majority of Americans don't see the Democratic
Party as a party with strong leaders. Now, Americans sort

(01:10:36):
of see the parties.

Speaker 12 (01:10:37):
Which party is better described as the party with strong leaders?

Speaker 2 (01:10:41):
Look at this?

Speaker 12 (01:10:41):
Wow, Sixty percent of Americans say Democrats. Forty percent say
that of the Republican Party.

Speaker 11 (01:10:46):
No.

Speaker 2 (01:10:47):
Overall, no party's doing great.

Speaker 12 (01:10:48):
Lots of Americans say neither of these qualities apply to
either party.

Speaker 1 (01:10:52):
But look at how much worse off. The Democrats are a.

Speaker 4 (01:10:54):
Party that gets things done.

Speaker 12 (01:10:55):
Only nineteen percent of Americans say that about the Democrats.
Thirty six percent say it about the Republicans. In fact,
the only place that the Democrats are numerically had party
of the middle classes is basically a tie. Though thirty
four percent say that of Democrats, thirty two percent say
that of Republicans.

Speaker 1 (01:11:09):
Well, hey, here's a question I have, Greg. So you're
the party out there who says we're going to address
all the critical issues facing this country, but most people
look at the Democratic Party as a party they can't
get things done.

Speaker 2 (01:11:21):
Yeah, no, yeah, I look, I think I just don't
want to interrupt them. Like I said, We've been saying
this actually since the election. When you're in a whole
and they keep digging, why would we want to interrupt that?
Let them keep digging. I think they're they don't want
to change what they're saying or what their policies are.
They think they can wrap it and frame it and

(01:11:42):
create political pageantry to make it more palatable for people.
But that's that's that's a dead end road they're heading down.

Speaker 1 (01:11:49):
A telling sign of this survey was how do people
within your own party feel about your leadership.

Speaker 12 (01:11:55):
But this I think is the most fascinating. How do
parts talk about their own party?

Speaker 9 (01:12:02):
Right?

Speaker 12 (01:12:02):
So, among Democrats and Democratic leaners leaners, thirty two percent
say Democrats are the party with strong leaders I.

Speaker 4 (01:12:10):
Mean of their own kind, right.

Speaker 12 (01:12:12):
Eighty two percent of Republican Republican leaders say that about
the GOP. Only forty one percent of Democrats say they
get they're the party that gets things done of their
own kind. And I will just say fifty one percent monu.
A majority of Democratic and Democratic leaners say neither party
gets the party that gets things done. Attribute imagine that
is the whole, that's the project that Democrats are working.

Speaker 1 (01:12:34):
So when your own supporters say that you do not
have strong leaders and you do not get things done,
greg doesn't the kind of tell you something.

Speaker 2 (01:12:42):
Yeah, I would think thirty two percent of the Democrats,
only thirty two percent of those self identified as Democrat
think that Democrats are are the party they can get
things done. That's a that's that's a that is again
the act of subtraction, that is a party of traction.
Their numbers continue to go down because they just do

(01:13:03):
not speak to the issues that Americans.

Speaker 1 (01:13:05):
Confront strong leaders, lack of strong leaders, lack of getting
things done. And then comes along our good old friend
Harry Enton CNN.

Speaker 2 (01:13:14):
I don't know how he still has a job on CNNA,
I really don't, but apparently he had. I'm happy he does.

Speaker 1 (01:13:18):
He had news today that will not please the Democratic
Party when it comes to the economy, after.

Speaker 13 (01:13:24):
All of the waves Cape Paul, When after the last
few months, the first five months of the Donald Trump presidency,
right of the first four months of the Donald Trump presidency,
that you expect that Democrats are at this massive lead
on the economy.

Speaker 1 (01:13:35):
It ain't so.

Speaker 13 (01:13:36):
It ain't so the party that is closest to your
economic views. And November of twenty twenty three, it was
the Republicans by eleven points. Now it's still within that range,
still within that margin of er plus eight point advantage
for the Republican Party. How is that possible, Democrats?

Speaker 2 (01:13:50):
How is that possible after all the.

Speaker 13 (01:13:51):
Recession, Because after the stock market's been doing all of this,
after all the terrists that Americans are against, and Republicans
still hold an eight point lead on the economy, Are
you kidding me?

Speaker 1 (01:14:01):
Well, they aren't kidding you. Harry. And by the way,
there are a lot of people saying, well, that's just
a c and N poll, But as Harry points out,
not so.

Speaker 13 (01:14:07):
If it was just the one CNN Paul, that would
be one thing. But take a look at Reuter's ipsos.
What do we see here, Party with a Better Economic Plan? Well,
it may have twenty twenty four, just before Donald Trump
was reelected president, Republicans had a nine point advantage. Look
at where we are now and may have twenty twenty five,
the advantage actually went up by three points. Now Republicans

(01:14:28):
have a twelve point advantage when it comes to the
Party with a Better Economic Plan. And again, this is
after months of supposed economic uncertainty, in which the stock
market's been going bonkers, in which the tariff wors that
Americans or against have been going on.

Speaker 1 (01:14:41):
And yet despite all of that.

Speaker 13 (01:14:43):
The Democrats are down by twelve points on the economy.
This speaks the Democratic problems on the economy better than
basically anything that you could.

Speaker 1 (01:14:51):
Possibly look at.

Speaker 13 (01:14:51):
The Republicans still hold an advantage on the all important
key issue of the day.

Speaker 1 (01:14:57):
Wow, now those are pretty amazing numbers.

Speaker 2 (01:15:00):
And I want you to think about this, that folks
that these numbers, these poll numbers are coming where you
had a regime media who every single thing that that
Biden did, biden Omics did, they reported as a positive.
And when you felt the economic hardship, you were told
you're just not sophisticated enough to know how good you

(01:15:20):
have it. You were told you you had you had
money dysphoria. You didn't understand this. Now that that Trump's
in every single minute of every single day, the regime
media is saying how everything is chaotic, everything is falling
off a clip, everything is bad, but it doesn't it
doesn't translate into real life. So the people are it's
it's it's not following the narrative at all. It's it's

(01:15:43):
really going the opposite of And so that's pretty powerful,
especially for how much energy they've put in and how
bold of strokes President Trump is taking with this economy,
renegotiating every trade agreement with every country he's he's he
is working very very hard, and he's doing some things
that a lot of I think people that were present
wouldn't have the guests to do.

Speaker 7 (01:16:03):
So.

Speaker 1 (01:16:03):
The Democrats want to spend twenty million dollars on how
to reach young men. Maybe they should spend twenty million
on finding leaders and doing something about.

Speaker 2 (01:16:12):
The you know, I give you, I mean give us.
We'll walk you through it.

Speaker 1 (01:16:17):
Yeah, we'll tell you all about that. More coming up
on the Rod and Greg Show just yesterday and Boulder, Colorado.
Even though the media refused to call it a terrorist.

Speaker 2 (01:16:25):
Attack, Yeah, you know it's no. I'm telling you that.
I'm really excited about this guest that we're about to
have on because she's calling the shot here and she's
saying that there's a des desensitization. I don't know if
I slaughtered that word on being desensitized. Bye bye. The

(01:16:45):
frequent violence political violence from the left and the underreporting
or downplaying of it and joining us on the show
to talk about this, Carrie Sheffield, senior policy analysts and
the Independent Women's Forum, the less thirst for political violence.
When I read your column, Sherry or Kerrie, I was
struck by the examples that you gave, and I've actually

(01:17:07):
kind of been a little bit numb to it myself.
I didn't see all these pieces that you've put together.
Maybe you can share with our listeners describe this thirst
that the left has for political violence.

Speaker 7 (01:17:21):
Hey, there thanks for having me. Yeah, it's really disturbing.
And the columns I wrote it for the Daily Signal,
and it looked at both anecdotal stories that have happened
recently with violence happening from the left or targeting people
who support President Trump, and then I also talked about

(01:17:42):
a new study that came out that also looked at
it systemically, and when you piece it all together, what
the study found was that people who identify as left
leaning are forty one percent more likely to say that
it's okay to murder or commit violence in the name
of Polo. And so it's really disturbing. But I talked

(01:18:04):
about some of the specific things, everything from the United
Healthcare CEO being murdered and being treated as somewhat of
a folk hero by people.

Speaker 4 (01:18:13):
On the left.

Speaker 7 (01:18:15):
Then you've got two assassination attempts on President Trump, including
one that hit the president and also that killed somebody
who was at the rally. Then you've got other examples.
I mean, you mentioned that anti Semitic violence, which the
left appears that they want to justify it far more
common than anybody on the right.

Speaker 1 (01:18:36):
You know, Carrie, what surprised me, and I don't think
This poll got enough coverage when it came out in
April by this network Contagion Research Insta due to reporting
that among the left leading respondents, fifty five percent felt
it would be at least somewhat justified to kill Donald Trump.
Forty eight percent said the same thing about Elon Musk.
What the hell's the matter with us, Carrie?

Speaker 7 (01:18:59):
Yeah, And they also found that fifty eight percent of
left leaning respondents said that it would be okay to
vandalize a Tesla vehicle or dealership. So it's, you know,
it is Trump's arrangement syndrome to some degree. But I
think that when people I think maybe perhaps technology is

(01:19:20):
part of this, because people can operate in a bubble,
and if you get whipped up in a frenzy in
a bubble, then anything's possible. And I will say, dosoi
ask you the Russian writer He said, if that does
not exist, then all things are possible, which he was
implying all things of terror and horror and violence. And
if you look at examples in history, you know you've

(01:19:43):
got one hundred million people almost murdered by the Soviet regime,
the Communist Chinese regime. These were regimes that did not
allow for belief in God. It was mandated atheism. And
that's what we see more common here in the left,
that it is far more common for people in the
left who not believe in God. And if you don't

(01:20:04):
believe in God, then you don't believe in the brotherhood
of If you don't believe in a soul, you don't
believe in people as your brothers and sisters, and you
are much more okay to dehumanize and then murder them.

Speaker 2 (01:20:15):
So who's getting sicker here is the media, the regime media,
who absolutely refuses to accurately report a horrific terrorist attack. Yesterday.
They underreported it, they downplayed it, they didn't want to
say who, what the motivation was. When right of center
attacks or things that are attached to being right of center,
you would have if, in other words, if there have

(01:20:36):
been a Malo tov cocktail in a gay Pride parade,
you would have heard the commentary very stark, very different
than what you heard yesterday from this media. Are they
becoming more and more deranged or are we as an
American people who hear them downplay it, underreport it, are
we even catching that they're doing that? And if we're not.
Are we becoming a sicker society by maybe tolerating them?

Speaker 7 (01:21:01):
Well, you know, Virginia media. I love that phrase. I
might borrow it from but you know, I think what's
very fascinating is that there is a new sheriff in
town when it comes to the media. I think what
Trump illustrated that the regime media can be basically ignored
or bypassed. And you can see that's basically part of

(01:21:23):
why Trump won was that he went around to the
new media, whether that's on X or truth Social but
also a numerous network of podcasts. So I think as
much as you're right that the regime or the legacy
media try to downplay this, there are enough platforms out there.
Thankfully they're seeking the truth and so that's what's been

(01:21:46):
I think the silver line of all this, Kerry.

Speaker 1 (01:21:48):
Can this all be traced back to the death of
George Floyd or was it going on long before that?

Speaker 5 (01:21:54):
Oh?

Speaker 7 (01:21:54):
I mean certainly long before, but I used the five
year anniversary of George Floyd as kind of a kickoff
just to say more recently. But if you look like
I said, I mean dating back in history, the Soviet
regime and the communist Chinese regime. I mean this is
it has more to do with an ideology of dehumanization

(01:22:16):
and playing God where you believe that your ego and
putting yourself as the center of the universe instead of
putting God above everything. And that's that's what America was
founded on, was founded on. In God we trust, and
that's what is so unique compared to other regimes, whether
it's even in the long arc of history, we trusted

(01:22:37):
in a king. You know, there is a divine right
of kings that the king on earth or in Soviet
regime or in communist Chinese regime where the state is
above everything. So that's the long term play. But I'm
just talking here specifically, and in the recent history too.
I mean, but it's all tied in and you know
that the Bible says there's nothing doing at the tun.

Speaker 2 (01:22:55):
So James Comy, you mentioned him in your article. I
mean he posts this eighty six fortyn eighty six means
take him out. You can you can find any the
most the most passive interpretation of eighty six is take
it out or cancel it. So but you know he
downplays this and it literally scoffs at the notion that
anyone would take him posting eighty six forty seven as

(01:23:16):
being anything violent or or threatening towards a president that's
been you know where there's been two assassination attempts. Is
he going to face and do you think that he's
going to face any consequences for what he's doing or
is he just is he just benefiting from people not
taking a violence political violence as seriously as we should.

Speaker 7 (01:23:38):
Yeah, I mean it's laughable that he tries to gaslate
it basically say oh, I had no idea what this meant, Like, Okay,
then how the heck where you are? FBI director?

Speaker 1 (01:23:47):
That so right?

Speaker 7 (01:23:51):
So I don't believe it for a second. I actually
think what's pretty gross about it is that he was
just doing this for a publicity stum, because he's got
a new book coming out and he wanted attention and
he thought he could be provocative. But it's just it's
really sick.

Speaker 1 (01:24:05):
It is sick. Carrie has always great conversation. Thanks for
joining us tonight.

Speaker 7 (01:24:10):
Of course I wouldn't say no, being that I lived
in Sandy as a kid. I'm gonna b why you
graduate Terry having me?

Speaker 1 (01:24:17):
Wow, we didn't know the Utah connection held.

Speaker 2 (01:24:20):
Back on us. I didn't know we should have started
the show with that.

Speaker 7 (01:24:23):
Oh, I've told you guys that before. In fact, I
have a biography that came out last year. It's I'm like,
if people go to my ex profile, I got a
link to it. There a lot of it takes place
in Utah.

Speaker 2 (01:24:32):
I'm going to wake up. I'm writing that down. I'm
not going to forget that again. Carrie, thank you. We'll
talk to you again.

Speaker 1 (01:24:37):
Thanks Garry, Thanks guys, take care. All right. Kerrie Sheffield
joining us on our Newsmaker line, talking about the political
violence from the left, and that's right. When she said,
I go, that's right, Carrie grew up here.

Speaker 2 (01:24:50):
I went right over my head.

Speaker 11 (01:24:51):
I don't.

Speaker 2 (01:24:51):
I have no recollection of that.

Speaker 1 (01:24:53):
Well that could. You weren't here probably the last time
we talked to her, So I don't blame.

Speaker 2 (01:24:56):
Goodness, thank you, thanks for this was all news to me.

Speaker 1 (01:25:00):
Error in thinking, which is fairly common anymore.

Speaker 2 (01:25:03):
All right, Well, I don't that's not true. You know
it's not true. I don't have opinions.

Speaker 1 (01:25:08):
You know this, yes, I know, you just know. All right.
More coming up on the Rotten Greg Show in Utah's
Talk Radio one O five nine kN rres interesting story, Greg,
as we wrap up tonight, a couple interesting story. Scientists
now say that humans are pansies compared to prehistoric Yellowstone people.

Speaker 2 (01:25:28):
Well, yeah, I lived outside. I didn't have we have
a lot of creature comforts. Now we are a little softer,
I would say, as a species for sure. Well, and
I'm not even ashamed to say that, Thank goodness, because
I don't want to live outside. I hate camping. I
don't even like the camp. I'm not a big camper either,
but people really do get into it.

Speaker 4 (01:25:48):
It's crazy.

Speaker 1 (01:25:49):
I've always wondered about this. All Right, you camp, right, yes,
you go camp. You you may have an RV, right,
set up the r V, sit down and eat, and
then what do you do? People enjoy it, and.

Speaker 2 (01:26:01):
Some people like to hike. You know what you doing?
You hike? You know what I do? When I hike?
I have to stare at the ground because I don't
want to trip over anything. So I just stare at
the ground for hours. I don't even get it. Was like,
oh it's so beautiful. Wouldn't know because I keep having
to see where my foot's gonna step. Because I'm not
I'm not walking on a sidewalk, so I had a
look at my feet.

Speaker 1 (01:26:19):
Hunts, he fishes, he goes out and does this stuff.
Kind of jealous because he enjoys the earth.

Speaker 2 (01:26:25):
I'm not jealous. I just think you know he's he's
he's more of a ruffian. I'll admit it. He is.
He's tough for me. I don't I don't want to.
I don't want to live like that. Yeah, yeah, he's
got his man card.

Speaker 1 (01:26:35):
All do we have like a partial man card?

Speaker 4 (01:26:38):
Man.

Speaker 2 (01:26:38):
I don't care what my card is. I'm just telling you.
I like beds. I like a c in the summer
and the heat in the winter.

Speaker 1 (01:26:45):
And I like them pond Yes, swimming.

Speaker 2 (01:26:48):
Swimming pool is nice. Nice Beverly Hillbillies reference there.

Speaker 1 (01:26:51):
Get him in that studios laughing at this.

Speaker 2 (01:26:53):
I'm telling you, I don't care. I'll own it. I'll
own it. I'll tell you right now. I like you
know what. I remember we go on these rural tours
as legislators, and we'd being these tour buses and we
got back into town. I'd say, look, structured parking. Look
there's a valet, there's a restaurant with a valet. Helljah,
I'm back. I'm back baby, all right. Now, one other story.
The weirdest thing that you have ever seen on an

(01:27:17):
airline flight? I I because.

Speaker 1 (01:27:21):
You've flown a lot, I've never seen anything crazy.

Speaker 2 (01:27:25):
No, I haven't seen anything too crazy. I've I've Yeah, No,
I I had a guy who wanted who who wanted
to me to him not put my seat back because
he wanted to eat or something. He made me want
me to put my seat straight up. I see, I
can go back to the tray moves back. But that
was just we just had a little we had some words.
That's it. But that's not Yeah, that's not okay.

Speaker 1 (01:27:46):
How about this story out of the British Airways, which
I'm told is one of the best airlines in the
cut in the world, says Abby. Yeah, Well, apparently a
flight attendant for b A was found naked and dancing
in a business class bathroom mid flight on a super
jumbo jet. Apparently the colleagues accused him of going on

(01:28:10):
a drug fueled bender.

Speaker 2 (01:28:13):
Oh so this is a guy doing this, This is
a guy. Yeah, that would be that would be herrific.
That's kind of weird, that's that's beyond weird.

Speaker 1 (01:28:19):
That's horrible. Yeah. The in flight fiasco, according to this story,
unfolded when the unidentified male cabin crew member was nowhere
to be found during meal time on a flight from
San Francisco to London. The flight attendant was eventually found
naked and booging in the Club World cabin bathroom by
an in flight crew boss. What a surprise that was

(01:28:40):
when they opened the door.

Speaker 2 (01:28:42):
Yeah, yeah, that would be weird. That'd be very weird.
I'd be I'd be be very awkward.

Speaker 4 (01:28:49):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:28:49):
Ira thinks this might be his month, you know what
I mean? It might be it might be his special month. Yeah,
June anyway, Yeah, no, it's hey. By the way, I
think this stat right here? Can I share a stat
work with your quick?

Speaker 1 (01:29:00):
Okay?

Speaker 2 (01:29:02):
Nate Silver pointed this out. He said he'd seen this before,
but he hadn't seen it in such stark terms. He
says that among voters who report poor mental health, liberals
those who identify themselves as left of center, outnumber conservatives
those that identify writer center. So poor mental health liberals
outnumber conservatives forty five percent to nineteen percent. Among those

(01:29:26):
who report excellent mental health, conservatives outnumber liberals fifty one
percent to twenty percent. Think about that, Ye, those that
think that have poor mental health forty five percent out liberals.
If yeah, liberals are forty five percent say they have
poor mental health. Only nineteen percent those who think they're

(01:29:47):
doing well have excellental health fifty one percent of conservatives
only twenty percent of you think liberals.

Speaker 1 (01:29:54):
Do you think Brian King has the job in front
of them? By the way, say Brian, he's the new
state party chair. I assume he's white, he's male, and
he's Mormon. High in the world's party hates. There You go,
all right, that doesn't for us to light head up,
shoulders back. May God bless you and your family in
this great country of ours.

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