The Rod and Greg Show: Factors for Minnesota Fraud; Reaction to Special Session; Trump hands the GOP Talking Points

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
I'm citizen Greg Hughes also known as Goose on Wednesday,
and I actually propose maybe a best of shows so
you and I could see it up this afternoon. But uh,
you know boss man here said.

Speaker 2 (00:10):
No, well, and the way you golf, I mean, we
couldn't do it in an hour and a half. You know,
you know, golf under three hours.

Speaker 1 (00:16):
It is true. I'm not calas I do like to play.

Speaker 3 (00:20):
Yeah, I know you do.

Speaker 2 (00:21):
Yeah, you're good. Well, how are you? Everybody? What a
day it is today. We've got a lot to talk
about today. The FED has chucked the interest rate down
again a quarter point should go deeper. Waited too long
in my opinion. You know, someone said something today Greg
and analyzing what the FED did today. The problem with
the Fed right now is they aren't looking forward. What's
going on? What do we see coming up? Usually Fed's

(00:43):
will do that, but they aren't looking forward right now.

Speaker 1 (00:46):
Here's another issue I have. It's called interest rate harvesting. Yes,
so we had a caller once, a realtor that called
and said, you know, the interest rates on mortgage is
actually they actually move on the on the rumor, not
the actual news. So if you know there's a rate.
I mean, you can see interest rates for home thirty
year mortgages move without the FED having to cut a rate,

(01:07):
But for credit cards and auto loans and a lot
of other types of loans, it does take that that
FED cut. I don't see commensurate interest rate cuts coming
for auto loans or the type of loans that you
would see when the FED cuts. I'm a lot of
some people are saying the banks are harvesting those lower

(01:28):
rates every time the FED raises a rate. Bet your life.
Your credit card interest rate goes up with it. Bet
your life, it goes from twenty to twenty one percent.
You know, it goes from some crazy number. But I
don't I worry that it's it's being seen credit cards
and all these things are being seen as revenue sources
instead of empowering consumers to be able to purchase more.
And so I mean, I have full faith and Treasury

(01:52):
Secretary Bessant, who's also a rock star, as a court
to last night's a rally in Pennsylvania, and I think
he if that's happening, he will he will see it
and he will address it. But there's a lot of
talk about that.

Speaker 2 (02:03):
Yeah, there is there's a lot going on. Well, we've
got a lot going on on the show today. We've
got we'll talk about the some of the factors that
played into the Minnesota fraud scandal. How did they get
away with this? And for so long? We'll talk about that.
Representative Ken Ivory will join us coming up later on session.
Yesterday they passed a big resolution saying we don't like
that map and we don't like you. Did they mention

(02:26):
dirty Diana. I did not hear it.

Speaker 1 (02:29):
I was in and out listening, but I didn't hear
the accurate, you know term of dirty Diana the judge,
you know, Diana Gibson. But I but I did think
that they had a number of bills. But I do
think there were some important statements made on the floor,
I and I and we're lucky to have I think
represent Ken Ivory on. I think he made some very
salient points and some important See these things, folks, they

(02:51):
get spread upon the pages of the House Journal. This
will go into a bound book, and this becomes history.
And this becomes history that if you're inn court case,
or if you want to understand what's happening at any
given year with the legislature when they're in session or
special session, you will have a verbatim account of what
happened in that special session. And I think these are

(03:12):
words and observations that deserve to be a historical and
unpreserved Yes.

Speaker 2 (03:18):
Noted in the record for sure. Well, speaking of that
turning point, action and a group associated with Charlie Kirk
and his team are going to step up and help
Utah Republicans get enough signatures to get the Prop four ballot,
the repeal of Prop four in the ballot. We'll talk
with Tyler Boden coming up on Boyer. I'm sorry, Tyler Boyer,
coming up on that a little bit later on in

(03:39):
the show. And Chase Jennings will join us. Love to
have Chase on the show. He's a political strategist based
in Louisiana. He'll give us his assessment of the first
stage of the Trump affordability to our last night your
rallies the troops like nobody I can sure does. Yeah,
he does well. A couple of things we want to
start off with the show today. If it gets a
little crazy, should we explain this. You don't know where

(04:00):
I'm going with this to you. You have to say
yes or no.

Speaker 1 (04:06):
I can't just give a head nod because I do
not know where you're going.

Speaker 3 (04:09):
We love Denny.

Speaker 2 (04:10):
Denny is our board up may He's the guy who
punches all the buttons, all the shots. He raised off today.
So Denny does that. I walked in to give him
the show sheet and say, here's what we're doing today.
He's got two giant cans of monster and all boys. Yeah,
these are these are the serious stuff.

Speaker 1 (04:25):
I am these. He is the white ones man, those
white monsters. They are good.

Speaker 2 (04:30):
So he may be punching buttons and we don't ask
him to punch today.

Speaker 4 (04:33):
He may be.

Speaker 1 (04:34):
You call into the show if you thought you reached
out an auctioneer. Hello, No, it's not an auctioneer. It's Denny.
He's he is uh enjoying those monster drinks. But hey,
I'm jealous. I love those those are good. He shows
he has good taste.

Speaker 2 (04:49):
Just be aware if he answers the phone you want
to get on the show, and he sounds like he's
talking a little fast, that's because he is. He's got
a lot of energy in him today. The other note today,
so I'm taking a break for lunch. My wife gives
me a call, right. She says, you wouldn't believe it,
And I said, what she says, gasoline at Costco is
below three dollars a gallon? Yes, pronto, I think it

(05:11):
was like two ninety three is what she paid for
it today.

Speaker 1 (05:14):
You should at Costco, you should be paying less than that.

Speaker 5 (05:16):
Oh.

Speaker 3 (05:17):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (05:17):
Are you saying for premium or are you talking premo
oh for premiums ninety three? Yeah, because premium is about
fifty at least fifty cents more gallon than eighty five octane,
So ninety one is less than three bucks. That's that's
what she said.

Speaker 2 (05:30):
I filled up the car for a little over thirty
dollars thirty five thirty six dollars.

Speaker 1 (05:35):
Yeah, I paid last night. I paid three thirty two
for premium.

Speaker 2 (05:40):
And she knows that you and I have been griping
about this, so she thought she'd give us good news.

Speaker 1 (05:43):
No, that is great.

Speaker 2 (05:44):
I'm going to spoil it because I want you to
listen to this television report coming out to Denver yesterday
about the price of gasoline.

Speaker 6 (05:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (05:51):
We opened the Fox thirty one video hall today to
find that story.

Speaker 3 (05:54):
This was June of two thousand and one.

Speaker 7 (05:56):
Drivers complaining about gas prices at the time, hovering around
a dollar seventy or eighty a gallon. Tonight, we're finding
that again. Our crew spotted one gas station, this one
near Evans in Quebec, advertising a dollar sixty nine a gallon,
and this time drivers are not complaining at all. Fox
thirty one and a coon with what's behind it?

Speaker 8 (06:15):
Gas is a dollar sixty nine a gallon right now
at the quick Trip on the corner of East Evans
and South Monaco Street. That's the cheapest price you'll find
across the state, according to gas Buddy, and also one
of the cheapest in the entire country. There was a
long wait line at a Denver shell station this afternoon
on the corner of East Evans and South Quebec Street.

Speaker 1 (06:37):
It's surprising to see the lines. I've never seen this
line before.

Speaker 8 (06:41):
All those drivers looking to fill up the tank at
just a dollar sixty nine a gallon.

Speaker 9 (06:46):
Since I've learned to drive, I don't know if I've
ever seen prices that low.

Speaker 2 (06:50):
A buck sixty nine a gallon, lines of cars lining
up Greg for this, I haven't seen that since the war,
you know, the gas price war and the oil and
bargo Beck in this seventies a dollar sixty nine a
gallon at one station in Colorado today.

Speaker 1 (07:04):
Yeah, and I think all over Colorado they're a little
over a dollar less per gallon than we are. And
you ta, and so I think it's relative. I'm very,
very happy to see the gas the average prices. I'm
looking at gas Buddy right now and around the station here,
we're looking anywhere from two seventy one to two seventy nine.
I'm looking at a holiday that's close by the station here.
You're regular, you're eighty five octanes two seventy five. Your

(07:25):
premium is three twenty five. So again there's that fifty
cent differential. And Rodeo Queen got it for under three
bucks for the premium. For the premium, that's a screaming.

Speaker 2 (07:35):
And at the same time, Greg and Queen Bee, you've
mentioned this before with Queen Bee. So I asked the
Rodeo Queen. I said, what about grocery prices? Are they
coming down? She goes absolutely not.

Speaker 10 (07:45):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (07:45):
See, I'm so glad you asked, because I'm afraid to
ask that question because I always get yelled at when
I keep saying I think this economy's turn around. And
I get told otherwise.

Speaker 3 (07:53):
Qanbe says, no, huh, she thinks it's.

Speaker 1 (07:55):
Very expensive at the grocery store. Still she's not she
doesn't see it, but she does acknowledge. At the gasoline
prices are starting to combat and some.

Speaker 2 (08:01):
Prices like egg prices are down. There are a few prices,
but like bacon prices, which I totally love. I love
the bacon, not the prices are up there. But it'll
be a while. It's going to take some time.

Speaker 1 (08:10):
You know what I've explained to my friends that are
still serving the legislature. President Trump is very committed to
the American people and affordability, and he knows that and
he always has been. But he sees this issue being
used as he's trying to dig out of the of
the Biden years being used against Tim. So he is
going to show you and he's going to work very
hard to make sure the American people feel the benefits.

(08:31):
And I think in tax time we will. The problem
that we have is that when Trump and all of
his social media efforts Harald's gasoline in Colorado. I saw
this from a from a Trump website. It was at
a buck sixty in sixty in Colorado and it was
that story you shared. He keeps pushing out this information

(08:52):
and Utahn's look at this on x or on social
media and says, wait a minute, gasole in Utah is
way more than what the President's saying. And so I
keep trying to tell them, you gotta find lower the
gas pump prices. Quit doing this. The gas that we're sending,
we refine and send the Colorado that's a bucket gallon cheaper.
Why is that tax exempt? Yeah? They should be. They

(09:14):
should be taxing that and taxing the motorists here in
Utah less.

Speaker 3 (09:17):
Yeah, I think they may be working on that January.

Speaker 1 (09:20):
So i've I would encourage and I am. I will
applaud that effort. If and when it happens, well we'll see.
All Right, We've got a lot to get to today.
So great to be with you on this Wingman Wednesday
edition of the Rotting Greg Show right here on Utah's
Talk Radio one O five to nine k nrs.

Speaker 3 (09:35):
Go away.

Speaker 2 (09:36):
The news cycle happens so fast anymore. But I'm worried
about this story. And we're talking about the fraud in
Minnesota involving several not the entire community, but several members
of that community in bilking the American people for what
could be eight billion dollars. That's where the b folks.
The Center for Immigration Studies has this story out today

(09:57):
and basically what it says, Greg is that seventy three
percent of Somalley households have at least one member on
Medicaid and fifty four percent received food stamps.

Speaker 1 (10:07):
Yes, it's a it's a it's a bit of a
it's a bit of a scam. I'm going to tell you,
I was unaware that they could access public funds and
you know, public assistance as easily as they're doing. And
I think you're right. We had a caller say that
when when you get into the billions, it's hard, it's
hard to measure, and when you hear, you know, crisis
after crisis, it's hard to it's hard to make feel

(10:29):
that something as urgent or as important as it is.
This is one of those moments. This is one we
cannot ignore. We have to understand how why where there's
a lot of different whether it's immigration, whether it's I
dentity politics. I mean you, there's a bunch of things
that we have to learn from. What's happened here?

Speaker 2 (10:44):
Well, what factors played into this massive Minnesota fraud scheme?
Joining us on our newsmaker line right now is Simon Hankinson.
Simon is a research senior Research Fellow and security at
the Heritage Foundation. Simon, thanks for joining us. What are
the some of the key factors that you realized pointing
to how they were able to get away with this fraud?

Speaker 9 (11:04):
Well, I guess the risk factors were that you had
incredibly low hanging fruit in the form of welfare benefits
that had low barriers to entry, They're easy to apply for,
and they had very few safeguards. And then you combine
that with a large population of people who come from

(11:24):
or whose parents came from the second most corrupt country
on Earth. So you know, I want to say an
accident waiting to happen, but it was definitely a combination
of risk factors and what resulted was a series of
scams from housing to child healthcare, autism in particular, and

(11:50):
other welfare benefits. Feeding the Future was one where a
group of scammers and many accomplices because they needed a
lot of people to facilitated, took hundreds of billions of
dollars I'm pretty sure it's going to go well north
of a billion dollars by the time all said and done.

Speaker 1 (12:08):
So I'm going to go backstream a little bit or
upstream rather so. I understood that if you wanted to
legally immigrate to this country, you had to have a sponsor,
and that sponsor had to say that they had and
they had to show the financial wherewithal to be able
to cover your medical your healthcare coverage, or your housing
jobs something to show some financial stability. But you see

(12:28):
these immigrants that are coming over, is that the asylum
status that gives them immediate access to public services and
welfare that under normal immigration standards, there has to be
some sponsor that assumes those financial costs.

Speaker 9 (12:43):
Well, I'm about to disappoint you in a number of ways.
You're right that for a normal immigrant coming from I
don't know, Belgium or Botswana, a family member, well unless
they're employment based, but let's say it's a family member
petitioning for a relative. Yes, you have to sign an
affidavit of support the Americans saying I will support them

(13:05):
if for whatever reason, you know, they can't get a
job or whatever. But the fact is those affidavits are pointless.
They're worthless pieces of paper because the government has never
ever sued on the basis of one. So you could
come over and you know, day two, get a car
accident or you know, have a kidney failure and then
be a lifelong drain on social services, medical services, whatever,

(13:28):
and your relative who signed that affidavit is never going
to be asked for a dime. So that's the best case.
But in the case of the Somalis, most of them
came in as refugees. So when you come in as
a refugee, you get some assistance from the state department
to try to get settled, get a job. Sometimes you
get medical assistance. Depending on the population, we're extremely generous.

(13:50):
For example, with the Afghan they got legal aid and
a bunch of other things. But no, you're not required
to be self sufficient. You're not supposed to be able
to tap been to federal benefits right away either, but
there's lots of ways to get around that. For example,
you have an American citizen kid, right away, you're eligible
for those benefits, which is why about sixty percent of

(14:11):
households headed by illegal immigrants in this country are on
at least one federal welfare program.

Speaker 2 (14:16):
Simon you right as well? Or you talked about the
question of assimilation, and I've seen a number of articles
over the last several days about assimilation. Basically, assimilation in
America is now dead. I mean, how much did the
lack of assimilation play into all of this?

Speaker 9 (14:34):
Yeah, I would argue that the assimilation is practically dead.
It's a two way street. It relies on individuals wanting
to be part of the society and paying into it, volunteering,
learning the language, learning our customs, and contributing. And it
also requires the society to put some pressure on people
so that they do that. And those two forces I

(14:55):
think have worked pretty well so far with populations you know,
ranging from I don't know, Scandinavians in Minnesota to Vietnamese
and Los Angeles. You know, it's been a pretty universally
effective formula. But I think it has broken down in
recent years due to one the very large number of
people coming in to the essentially open borders under Biden

(15:17):
that brought in, you know, millions of people with just
basically no screening whatsoever. And three just a general societal
breakdown where people are much more willing to claim benefits
and kind of live off the government than they used
to be. Twenty five percent of men with a high
school diploma of working age are now out of the workforce,
whereas fifty years ago it was only like five percent.

Speaker 1 (15:38):
Simon, I'm having trouble with the selective logic and selective
outrage of the regime, media and the left and a
lot of other people. A seven hundred percent increase in
funding for children with autism within the Smalley community is
a joke. It's it screams with neon lights. There's fraud.
It's a six billion dollar program that turns into one

(15:59):
hundred plus million or six million dollar program turning into
one hundred million plus dollar program. I understand that there
were state Minnesota state employees who saw that seven hundred
percent and knew for a fact that that was fraud.
But when they would attempt to whistle blow or to
bring attention to it, they were called racist. They were
used all the identity politics was used against them. They

(16:19):
were reassigned, or they were they were silenced. I feel
like the media does that today as we try to
hold anyone accountable through this fraud. Tell me, can this
penetrate the minds of the American people. The kind of
fraud you're talking about that gets north of a billion dollars,
I've never heard of this before. This sounds as bad
as it gets. Are we ever, Are we going to

(16:39):
take it seriously as a country? Are we just going
to play an identity politics game throughout.

Speaker 9 (16:46):
Well both, I think I think half the country is
going to take it seriously and half it's going to
play identity politics. It's just a fact that for for
white liberal Americans, racism accusations or kryptonite. You know, it's
like across to a vampire. They just you know, cover
their face and run away. No one wants to be
called a racist. It's not a good thing to be
called a racist. I don't actually think there are that
many in the United States. But if you arrest somebody

(17:07):
for committing a crime, it doesn't really matter what they
look like. If they committed that crime, they got to
do the time. And that's you know, as a society,
we have to move past that and stop worrying about
whether we're arresting the right percentage of each sex and
each race. It just so happens that men commit most
violent crime. It's like ninety eight percent of the violent

(17:28):
criminals in jail are men. Why because men commit more crime,
and you could go down various types of crime. Young
men commit more crime than old men. You know, it's
just a fact. And so if we're going to have
law enforcement, we're going to go after people who commit fraud.
We got to stop worrying about people playing the race
card and just let justice be done.

Speaker 2 (17:45):
Simon, final question for you, where do you see this
going now? I mean in the news cycle? How long
is this going to stay in the news cycle? Will
it slowly fade away and die out and Americans will
never know what's going to happen with us? Where do
you see this going right now?

Speaker 9 (18:00):
I'm a lot more traction than I thought it would.
I mean, it came out some weeks ago, months ago,
even in fact, to Feed the Future, that's.

Speaker 3 (18:07):
Many months old.

Speaker 9 (18:09):
But it's gotten national attention, I think because of the
sheer scale of it. And you know, people should be
upset because this is a billion dollars of taxpayer money.
And it's not just people in Minnesota who are getting shafted.
It's people from all the other states. Because the federal dollars,
like you know, anywhere from one to nine to one
match with you know, the state dollar. So I think

(18:29):
this case also is not over if you look at
the scale of it, I don't think we're anywhere near
the end of it now. I don't think it's just
going to be eighty six people to go to jail
for this. I think you're going to find some politicians
implicated by association, if nothing else, or campaign donations.

Speaker 11 (18:45):
And I do think that the.

Speaker 2 (18:45):
Attention is going to stay focused on us for a
while from the Heritage Foundation, Simon Hankinson joining us on
the Rod and Greg Show in This wing Man Wednesday
doc Radio one All five nine ken us. Of course,
they had to wait till six o'clock last night when
we were almost off the air. I know, likely afraid
we were going to tell people what they were doing.

Speaker 1 (19:02):
No, I think they hope we tell me what they're doing.
But you know, they have other stuff they had to
do attend to for during the day. So, and folks,
I have to tell you that as I served as
a lawmaker in the House, I had a colleague and
a friend who was really in tune to the role
between states and states rights and how it's articulated in
our US Constitution and those rights that states have and

(19:24):
those that are reserved for states versus the federal government.
And so in that debate last night, talking about the
I think the blatant unconstitutionality of a judge and a
left of center group privately drawing maps and having the
effect of law. Many many lawmakers stood up in objection
to this. But I thought that the points that our
next guest, Representative Ken Ivory made on the floor of

(19:45):
the House was worth visiting or revisiting for him and
visiting for US representative. Welcome to the Rodd and Greg show.

Speaker 10 (19:53):
How you doing, brother, Good to be with you.

Speaker 1 (19:56):
You know, I knew when you were going to when
you stood up to speak, that it would be important.
Those are comments that are spread upon the pages of
our House journal. It's historical. Maybe you could share with
our listeners what is it that was discussed last night
in regards to this redistricting process and the legislature's role
or lack of What is it that you shared on

(20:17):
the floor last night?

Speaker 6 (20:20):
Sure?

Speaker 10 (20:20):
Greg, you know I wasn't planning to speak last night,
but I had some colleagues on the other side of
the aisle bringing up the Federalist papers and deferring to
the judiciary and judicial independence. And we said, you know,
that's fine, and yes, we have three branches of government,
but they're not three equal branches of government. Madison made

(20:42):
very clear in Federals fifty one, he said in a
Republic that we are legislative power necessarily predominates, he says,
because we're the closest to the people. If they don't
like what we do. We stand for election every two
years in the House, every four years in the Senate.
Who voted for Judge Gibson, who can hold her accountable

(21:04):
or not by a vote doesn't happen. And so that's
why Supreme Court law, the Constitution, both the US and
the state Constitution says that the district shall be prescribed
by the state legislatures. And this judge just blatantly ignored that.

(21:25):
In fact, grig last week, the US Supreme Court last week,
reviewing the Texas case, said district court should not improperly
insert themselves into an active primary campaign because they cause confusion,
They upset delicate balance of powers. And that's what we're
seeing here.

Speaker 2 (21:45):
You sure are representatives tell us about the overall mood
within that the chamber last night as you were debating
this bill, how would you describe the overall mood of
some lawmakers who I would think are pretty upset with.

Speaker 9 (22:02):
You know.

Speaker 10 (22:03):
I mean, it's a great question, Rod, And as Greg knows,
we're very upset constitutionally about what's happened. We feel like
the judge just completely overstepped her role and completely circumvented
our ability to fulfill our duty under the US and

(22:24):
the Utah Constitution. But I want to make clear that
even with all of that, the relationships, it's very collegial
at the state level. We know we have a job
to do to represent the people. And you know, after
I made my comments to representive Owens and some of
the other went over and gave him a hug. You know,
I love you, but we've got to get this right.

(22:47):
And this is how we feel about this, and this
really is important roduct. You know, we feel very much
like we've got many in the judiciary that don't reflect
Utah and what Utah has put in statewide offices, in
the legislature, in members of Congress, and we've got a

(23:10):
judge that's disappointed by that. And Rod, she imposed an
out of state partisan group, the most partisan map we've
ever seen in the history of Utah. In the last
presidential election, the presidential primary that district, Bernie Sanders garnered
forty percent of the vote and Elizabeth Warren twenty percent

(23:33):
of the vote. That doesn't reflect any part of Utah.

Speaker 1 (23:36):
No, you're does so representative? Does the resolution that you
spoke to and that was voted on? I assume that
was a super majority, it got over two thirds. It
would it be like if you had the map in
front of you. Let's say you were in a redistricting
time and you were going to pass a map, but
it were to fail. Was that resolution akin to a
map being resoundingly by two thirds majority voted against. Is

(23:58):
that how your alleged attorney see it? Is that? Is
that what happened?

Speaker 10 (24:03):
I'm not sure I understand. I mean, did we reject
what the judge did? Absolutely and constitutionally. We wanted we
wanted to make it known our fingerprints are nowhere on
that map that that draws the most partisan not only Democrat,
but Republican. It drew hyper partisan Republican districts in addition

(24:26):
to a very very hyper partisan progressive district rather than
having four competitive districts that Ben McAdams was going to
run anyway before any of this happened, because we drew
the districts in a way that someone reasonable and reflective
of Utah from either party could win and have one
in the past.

Speaker 2 (24:46):
Have you failed us on one part? I think I
was hoping you'd call the resolution the dirty Diana. Judge,
we don't like you resolution. Yeah, that's what I call
it that, because you just did call her dirty Diana.

Speaker 1 (24:56):
We were using that Michael Jackson song a lot around
here here.

Speaker 2 (25:00):
We're really mad for joining us.

Speaker 10 (25:05):
You guys run with that ball and then we'll stick
to quot Appreciate what you guys do.

Speaker 2 (25:11):
All right, Representatives, Thank you. See I think called it
the dirty Diana.

Speaker 1 (25:15):
We don't like your We know where, we know where
you should put that map. We're going to say it
on this Family Value show. Yeah, him quoting the US
Supreme Court and it's you know it, admonishing the lower
courts for getting involved. I just wish there was a
federal nexus to get this issue that we're dealing with

(25:36):
here in Utah in front of that Supreme Court. The
Texas one was because of the federal discrimination laws or
racial discrimination. There are federal laws, we don't I don't
believe there are any federal laws that you can tether
this too. But boy, if you could get in front
of the US Supreme Court, they would kill that dirty
Diana Judge Gibson map in eight seconds or less. Yeah,

(25:59):
I just wish we could.

Speaker 2 (26:00):
All right more coming up the Rod and Gregg Show
Talk Radio one oh five nine knrs, Jasmine Crockett is
going to run for the US Senate in the great
state of Texas.

Speaker 1 (26:09):
Now, yeah, you know, good luck with that. I look,
they the Libs in the left, they just want Texas
so bad. They put so much money into the Beato
or Rourke, and they put so much money into these
candidates hoping to turn red Texas blue. But you know,
Texas usually comes through at the end of the.

Speaker 3 (26:27):
End, they do well.

Speaker 2 (26:29):
On CNN today, Rocana, Democrat out of California, was asked
if he's going to endorse Jasmine crock Is she the.

Speaker 7 (26:34):
Kind of candidate that the party should get behind and
take back the Senate?

Speaker 5 (26:38):
Sure, she's new.

Speaker 4 (26:39):
You know what we don't need. We don't need nineteen
nineties or two thousand folks leading us into the future.
We need a new generation. Do we need the old
guard to step aside? We need a new generation who
understand modern technology, who understand the issues of the base.
And Jasmine is certainly one of those people.

Speaker 3 (27:00):
Are going to do very well. You know, support her.

Speaker 4 (27:02):
I support her, I've worked with her. I support her,
but I also I mean, I respect that. Tell Rico
it should be an open, competitive primary. But I like
Jasmine and I'm supporting her now.

Speaker 2 (27:11):
As soon as I heard him say that, Greg, I
instantly thought of one Ben mccadams in this new congressional district,
the old guard of the nineteen nineties, two thousands. We
don't want the old guard. So does Ben mccadams represent
the old guard when it comes to the Democratic Party,
especially in this new so called district. The dirty, dirty

(27:32):
at Diana created.

Speaker 1 (27:35):
The worst thing that ever happened to him was that
she drew or allowed a leftist group to draw such
a blatantly and over the top leftist blue district. He's
so he has modeled himself as the pragmatist Democrat. Pragmatist
and his pivot to the left to try and win
that seat, and that convention and in that primary it's

(27:57):
it's too hard. You have too many young, really radical
almost socialist, if not socialist communist candidates in that district.
With that Bernie Sanders supports in that state Senator in
Nate blowing And I'm telling you he has no record.
He's never been able to pass the single bill. Ben
mccadams pass bills. That's a problem. Yeah, if you passed
a bill, it's not going to be everything the leftist
wanted because it came out of the Utah legislature. So

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he's never passed anything. Everything he's ever wanted to do,
it's failed. But that's the new guard of the Democrat Party.
It's performative, it's not substance. And I know, in a
private moment, I don't know. I suspect, knowing the way
I've worked with Bennett McAdams in the past, that he
is quietly an inside, just gritting his teeth, that this

(28:41):
district was drawn this way because he had the straight path.
Every member of the Salt Lake City Council had endorsed him,
and then when they drew the district, they said King
Zax were just kidding, and they all pulled back all.

Speaker 2 (28:52):
Right, Turning Point Action going to get involved in Utah's
ree elections. We'll talk about that coming.

Speaker 1 (28:58):
Up next Ready for the next hour, We.

Speaker 2 (29:01):
Are ready to roll this hour. Well, the Utah Republican
Party has just got a big, big boost. I think
Greg did'st effort to overturn prop forwards. They take it
to voters. We've seen some surveys out already showing that
most people feel it should be lawmakers, not judges like
Dirty Diana who decide the congressional district.

Speaker 1 (29:19):
That's right, and it's the polls are so high. And
what they're saying is I think the state, our state
constitution applies.

Speaker 3 (29:26):
Yeah, I think it really.

Speaker 1 (29:28):
I think it's we're supposed to do what it says
in there, and it's not really vague about that part.
Joining us on the program is someone who's participation in
this issue in Utah. I was so happy to hear about,
Tyler Boyer. He is the chief operating officer of Turning
Point USA. Tyler, thank you for joining us on the
Rod and Greg Show.

Speaker 11 (29:47):
I'm happy to be here, happy to join you.

Speaker 1 (29:49):
Now listen just real quickly. I'm so glad this caught
your I know you do a lot of good work
in Arizona all over the country and I and President
Trump has often pointed to you and Charlie Kirk as
being one of the biggest reasons he was elected in
twenty twenty four. How did you know about this? And
tell tell our listeners how you plan to participate in

(30:12):
getting the signatures to have voters have maybe a reconsider
of reconsideration of their actions in terms of Prop four
in this redistricting nightmare we're in the middle of.

Speaker 11 (30:22):
Well, yeah, I mean, it's no question that the radical
and radical as left has taken to the maps for
decades now, and it's not enough for them to do
it once every ten years. Now they're wanting to do
it all the time. And we've seen this with what's
happened in California and everything else. They cannot stand another

(30:44):
two years of a Republican controlled Congress and so they
want to take they want to mix it up as
much as they possibly can across the country and cause chaos,
which is what the Democrats are best at doing. And
so this isn't just a Utai issue, this is.

Speaker 3 (30:59):
A national issue.

Speaker 11 (31:01):
Right now, we're working in Indiana with the President's team
to try to counteract what Newsom has done in California.
And you know, Utah I tell everybody all the time,
Utah is the frontier for fighting the left and this
is this is just the tip of the sphere.

Speaker 2 (31:18):
Tyler, what kind of force do you hope to bring
to Utah in an effort to get enough signature is
to get this thing over the line and get it
before voters here in Utah. What kind of force are
you going to bring?

Speaker 11 (31:29):
Well, we've been great, great friends and great allies with
the Republican Party that's there in Utah. They're doing a
great job. Chairman rob Accent is doing an incredible job.
And uh, you know, they have been all over this
since day one. And so we have, you know, this
unique ability to attract a lot of people. We have
a lot of notoriety as an organization, a lot of

(31:52):
great people who have stepped up, particularly since the assassination
of Charlie. Today's the three months uh you know, you
know anniversary since that fateful day, and uh, there's just
been so many great Utahs have stepped up and said,
you know, I've had enough of what's happening around me.

Speaker 3 (32:09):
I want to get involved.

Speaker 11 (32:10):
And so we're going to be putting together what we
call super Chase events. They're kind of like Super Saturdays,
except for any day of the week where we go
out talk to people, knockdoors and be able to help
petition gather. And we did this, We've done this in
many places across the country, super successful with our technology
and our people.

Speaker 1 (32:28):
So help our help our listeners understand if if they
if they meet someone that's looking for signatures, how, how
what what is asked of them?

Speaker 5 (32:37):
What?

Speaker 1 (32:37):
How does this process work? I mean, we just want
to make sure people know I recognize your your volunteers,
your people that are helping to get these signatures, where
they would be and what they'd be asking them to do.

Speaker 11 (32:49):
Well, we're going to be going door to door here soon.
So it hasn't been it hasn't been announced yet quite
yet what the what the program is going to be.

Speaker 1 (32:57):
But your secret you'd have to kill me if you've
told I get it. I hear you, Tyler. I won't
ask again.

Speaker 11 (33:03):
We will be coming out with a very short and
short form here of how to get involved, but you'll
be seeing a lot of messages because again we've been
blessed for people kind of know the Turning Point brand.
They obviously know Charlie, so we'll be able to make
sure the word gets out so that when people are
as people are coming door to door to get their signatures,
they're already aware and they know that it's an organization

(33:27):
they can trust. And that's the big thing right now
is there's just so much out there that people just
can't trust. You know, a lot of people are being
lied to about supporting the bad maps in Utah, and
we want to make sure people know they can trust
us to work through this and return the power back
to the legislature where it belongs.

Speaker 2 (33:46):
We're talking right now with Tyler. Tyler Boyer, he is
the chief operating officer a Turning Point Action. Tyler, as
you just mentioned in moment ago, it's been ninety days
since the assassination of Charlie Kirk, describe the mood of
the organization. I mean, you see these rallies around the country,
a huge turnout, young people stepping up and say we
want to get involved. What's your take ninety days after
the assassination of Charlie.

Speaker 11 (34:09):
You know, I wake up every day just still not
and not believing it. Told this belief you know, being
from Arizona, not too far away from little Utah, Mesa,
I've had a a real struggle with you know what,
what has occurred, and that our friend isn't going to
be with us finding the good fight on Earth any longer.

(34:32):
But you know, there where we really felt the prayers.
Erica who you know, Charlie just had his book release
that he was so proud of they'd finished before, about
the Sabbath, and you know, she's she's torn around the
country talking about her husband and his final word here
on Earth. We're just we're just so uplifted by the

(34:54):
prayers and the support that everyone's given, and that's energy
that's energizing a lot of young people to get in
and do a lot more than they've ever done before.
And that includes us at headquarters. So we're going to
keep on doing that. And it's things like this projects
like in Utah, where it's like we've got to stop
the radicals from taking over this country, from totally up

(35:15):
into the constitution and taking advantage of regular American citizens.

Speaker 1 (35:20):
Just I'm just curious. In Arizona, it's it's an important state,
used to be solidly read. We've seen democrats make inroads,
your governor and others that are there or Democrats. And
my question is, and I know that's your wheelhouse in Arizona.
I get the sense up here in Utah that you're
doing some very powerful work down there. Andy Biggs should

(35:41):
be successful, I think in his run for I think
what for governor? How do you how do you assess Arizona,
because that's when you're involved. You can tell us about
that one. You might not be able to tell us
about Utah yet, but you can tell us about Arizona.

Speaker 11 (35:52):
Right Well, you know, whatever happens in Arizona first is
coming to Utah next.

Speaker 3 (35:58):
So we've had.

Speaker 11 (36:00):
So you know, it really matters a whole lot to
pay attention. But yeah, no, we're really excited. You know,
having great candidates serve in office is really important. You
guys have a great one in Mike Lee. Andy Biggs
has been one of the leaders in Congress just holding
the line. There's not very many guys you can you
can point to that you can say are holding the

(36:21):
line in Congress and actually representing you in a way
that you're you can be somewhat excited about. And Andy
has been one of the few that's done that, so
getting him to run for Congress or for governor excuse me,
is moving the over to windows significantly. One of the
things I've said to people is, you know, DeSantis has
been really impactful because he's chased the left out of

(36:42):
his state, which is dramatic, dramatically shift to Florida.

Speaker 3 (36:45):
We need to make Arizona, the Florida the West do the.

Speaker 11 (36:48):
Same thing so we can continue to take ground and
and fight back and Nevada and Utah and other places
the left ones to attack.

Speaker 1 (36:56):
Well, after you've done with Arizona, we're sending a U
haul truck for you checket up here into Utah. You
need to come up here. We need your help, Tyler.

Speaker 2 (37:03):
Great, great having me on the show. Good luck with
your effort, and let us know if there's anything we
can do to help it out. Thanks Tyler.

Speaker 11 (37:09):
Well, we may seek around permanently in Utah.

Speaker 3 (37:12):
For this whole thing.

Speaker 2 (37:12):
So we need you. We'll we need you, sir, We'll
take you. Thanks, Tyler, have a good day, Tyler boy.
You're joining us on our Newsmaker line. Tyler of course
CEO of Turning Point Action and they are going to
get involved in Utah. They have got an army and
they get that army out look out.

Speaker 1 (37:29):
You know. And I have to tell I'm sure the
our listeners. Through a mutual friend, I was able to
speak with Tyler as they were prepared. Was right after
Charlie Kirk was so horribly assassinated. They were getting ready
for the memorial service that they were having, so a
lot going on. Yeah, and you know, you have the
president that's attending and all the people that are and
it was the Friday night before that memorial service, and
I could just speaking with him about things that were

(37:51):
happening in Utah, but just just generally what was going on.
And I just wanted him to know the sentiment in Utah,
how devastated we were as a state and everything else.
He the guy's got endless energy. I mean, you could
hear the fatigue in his voice, but he was absolutely
resolute in all the work that they did to put
off put on that memorial that was historical in such

(38:12):
a short time. He's he's just an incredibly capable and
skilled and principled human being. And I'm and I'm so
glad to hear that that Tyler is involved in what
we're doing here in Utah.

Speaker 2 (38:23):
You know, I saw an article today. Time Magazine will
put out it's person of the Year here in the
next week or two. Charlie Kirk, in my opinion, should
be the person of the year.

Speaker 1 (38:32):
Oh yeah, easily, he's you know, it's Time magazine, so
who knows, but you.

Speaker 3 (38:36):
Know, probably go from Donnie salti.

Speaker 1 (38:38):
Commune made me Utah of the Year once and I
think the guy, I think the editor got fired after
he did it, so he didn't have the job along after.

Speaker 2 (38:45):
He did it, after naming person of the Year in Utah.
All right, we've got a lot to get to. More
coming up right here on the Wingman Wednesday edition of
the Roden Gregg showing no issues on I fifteen or
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Speaker 1 (39:02):
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Speaker 11 (39:04):
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Speaker 2 (39:08):
All right, we want to open up the phones this
hour because there's been a question that came up and
I heard Claim Buck debate this a little bit earlier today,
but it does raise a very good question. A while ago,
we had Simon Hankinson with the Heritage Foundation on the
show talking about factors that played into this Minnesota fraud.
He brought a couple of things up. Greg He said,
first of all, many of these programs they got involved

(39:29):
in and allegedly were able to build American taxpayers out
of millions, if not billions of dollars. There was low
hanging fruit. No one really paid much attention to these programs.
And point number two, Greg, he brought up assimilation. You know,
we would hope You've talked about the naturalization.

Speaker 1 (39:45):
Ceremonies that I've spoken at and yeah attended.

Speaker 2 (39:48):
Where people are so proud to be Americans, to be
considered citizens of this great country of ours.

Speaker 3 (39:54):
It's been one of the.

Speaker 1 (39:54):
Most joyous meetings I've ever been to, let alone in
the road time of the Capitol. And it doesn't just
end with the speeches. After it's over, everybody wants a selfie.
They got a little American flags and they want They
just swarm and they just want to take pictures together.
And they're not hiding in the shadows. They don't hate
this country. There's not a single person rod that I've
ever met. And the multiple naturalization ceremonies that I was

(40:16):
invited to as Speaker of the House to attend to
speak that I thought, all these people hate America. Oh
they're going to they don't want to assimulate. They're gonna
want to go out their own way. No, they were
coming to they they wanted to talk to me, they
wanted to take pictures together, they wanted us to we
were tea. I don't know. Yeah, I'm just saying that
if you do it the right way, and there is
a right way, I don't think you have the same

(40:39):
problem that we're seeing with these refugees and these people
that come in and we're seeing now the problems in
the fraud that's happened to Minnesota. We're seeing like a
blueprint it's happening in Maine. Yeah, that's the same thing.
It's like the memo got out well.

Speaker 2 (40:52):
Well, the President I don't know if he answered this
question at the big rally last night, but the question
is being circulated around this country, and I think a
lot of Americans feel this way. And I'd love to
hear from our great listeners as well about this. Greg
is why do we allow people from as a president
described him, I can't state it on the air, lose
their livecense countries like this. And my question is, Greg,
the numbers are showing I think, what is it, sixty

(41:13):
seventy eighty percent of the Somali refugees in Minnesota are
on welfare of some sort. They're using one or two. Yeah,
it's huge, right, So the question is why should we
allow immigrants who come into this country to immediately get
on the welfare roles. I mean, maybe a grace period
for a month or two to help them out, maybe
none of that, But why do we even allow them

(41:34):
in the country if they cannot support themselves?

Speaker 1 (41:37):
And it's even it was a sobering interview to be
at the first hour to speak with the person that
we were talking about this assignmon talking about the Somali
issue that even even if you do it the way
where you have a sponsor from the United States and
they sign the Affidavid he gave it. He shared the
sad news that they're no one's enforcing those after airs. Yeah, no,
one doesn't, nobody, so it doesn't really have an effect.

(41:58):
Yeah yeah, I mean might be an honor system, or
there might be people that are unaware they can get
away with it. But it's just it's just it's it's sad,
and I and I'm and I'm all for a tall
wall or fence, but with a gate. But someone has
to give me the number. I have to we have
to know what number it is that that you can
take that doesn't actually harm you, know, your emerging workforce,

(42:21):
your country, what you're doing here. I think there's a
there's a lot of conversations that have to be had.
But how but when people you can't even talk about
the fraud, the rampant fraud amongst the community that that
really does express its hatred towards America. I mean, I
I have a video, yeah, clip from a state representative
from Maine. She's from Somala. She came over from I

(42:42):
think Kenya when she was little, and she lived in
Kansas and just has nothing good to say or where
she lived and how cold it was, how terrible it
all was, and and so there's this animosity, and yet
we can't talk about this, this widespread fraud and Somali
children having autism, those funds, those programs going up seven
hundred and three years, which isn't real. If you want

(43:05):
to call that out and arrest people for fraud, there's democrats,
leftists out there that will call you a racist. Yeah,
and so the identity, the identity politics has over it
just overrides everything.

Speaker 2 (43:18):
Well, my question would be I don't know how we
do this, what sort of system we would use, But
I think our question should be to people. Should we
allow immigrants who come into this country who will immediately
go on welfare right off the bat.

Speaker 1 (43:31):
You know, and not not even including welfare as soon
as they enter your public schools and they can't speak
a word of English. Where's already an additional burden that
comes to your system the you name it from that? So, yeah,
should you receive public assistance upon arrival?

Speaker 3 (43:43):
Yeah, I should go. I'd say no.

Speaker 1 (43:46):
My vote is no.

Speaker 3 (43:47):
No, Yeah, I'm with you on that one. All right.

Speaker 2 (43:48):
We want to get to your phone calls on this
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Speaker 3 (44:02):
Let's go to the phones.

Speaker 2 (44:03):
We've all already got a caller coming in tonight wanting
to talk to the Rod and Greg show. Scott is
here in Salt Lake City. Scott how are you. Thanks
so much for joining us.

Speaker 5 (44:13):
Good evening, gentlemen. I didn't want to talk about immigrants,
but you mentioned Ben mccadams earlier as the moderate Democrat
in the House of Representatives race for the new District one,
and I actually think he has a path to victory
in the new District one. And what he needs is
he needs Republicans to do what Democrats in that district

(44:34):
have been doing for years, and that is crossover. He
needs Republicans to vote for the moderate Democrat in the primary,
and they don't even have to change their voter registration
to do so.

Speaker 1 (44:48):
That is true. The Democrats elect card carring Republicans vote
in their Democrat primary. They did it. Yeah, yeah, you're right,
you on good turn deserves another. They came into our
primaries to moderate Republican candidates.

Speaker 3 (45:01):
Play the exact same game.

Speaker 1 (45:03):
God's looking for a little two way street here.

Speaker 2 (45:04):
I think, all right, your calls, your comments, your talk
about comments, all right, Scott, thank you coming up right
here on the Rowden Greg Show and Talk Radio one
oh five nine kN rs.

Speaker 1 (45:13):
I wanted to work that way.

Speaker 2 (45:14):
Hate to tell you that, all right, if you're just
joining us, we're taking your calls, getting your reaction to
what is ever going on in the news today. But
our topic, one of the issues we want to talk
about is the president, of course, went after refugees, those
who come to this country to seek refuge but also
do not want to assimilate immediately go on welfare. And
the question we have is should immigrants who come to

(45:35):
this country immediately be allowed to go on welfare. They
used to have to go through sponsors, but they've worked
themselves around that, and now they're costing the American people
a heck of a lot of money. Case in Point
Minnesota and the fraud scandals there. Sorry, I got distracted. Sorry,
let's go to the fun timeliness. That's the disability. I

(45:56):
need accommodations. Oh yeah, thank you, I'm disabled. Let's go
to he's pentatially waiting. He's in Ogden. I should have
come to you, like, I don't know, ten seconds earlier,
zaying welcome to the Rodding Greg show.

Speaker 5 (46:09):
That's all good.

Speaker 12 (46:11):
Yeah. I think that we need to require anybody who
is immigrating here to take, first of all, take their
citizenship test in English so that they can speak the language,
our native language. Any other country would require that, and
then our welfare and that should be set up to

(46:32):
assist citizens of the country who have paid into that
through taxes and stuff like that. So I think you
need to have at least five years of citizenship before
you can qualify for any welfare programs or anything like that.

Speaker 1 (46:48):
Yep, sounds good to me.

Speaker 3 (46:50):
I agree with them.

Speaker 2 (46:51):
I would say, you know, if you come in you're
in desperate need, maybe about three months to help you
get on your feet.

Speaker 3 (46:58):
But after that done.

Speaker 1 (46:59):
Man, I'm sitting here fifty six years. I haven't got
any the welfare, so you know, five years is an
easy one.

Speaker 2 (47:05):
Yeah, that's yeah, all right, Zane, thank you. Back to
the phone they go, Let's go to Gransville. Here Tom
has to say Tonight on the rod In Greg Show,
Hi Tom, how are you.

Speaker 6 (47:15):
Great? I just want to say, I've work with a
lot of immigrants and stuff in construction, and most of
them are really great to work with. And I don't
understand why we can't just give them a work visa
for five years, and you know, if they keep their
nose clean and they prove that they want to live
here and.

Speaker 11 (47:35):
That they're good citizens, give them citizenship.

Speaker 1 (47:40):
Tom, do you worry if you do that after the fact.
I think the border is secure now so that that
plan could probably work better. But if you if you
incentivize people to not go through the legal process that's
prescribed right now and takes a while to go through.
But they came across legally, but then did what you
said where they worked here for five years, kept their
nose clean. Wouldn't it incentivize people to not go through

(48:01):
the legal process and just try to get here illegally
so they could take advantage of that, be here for
five years and and then be h with a work
you know, be given of work visa after the after
the fact.

Speaker 6 (48:14):
No, no, sir, I'm saying that give them the opportunity,
give them a work is come here, everything's good. Offer
him citizenship.

Speaker 1 (48:26):
I got you, Tom good idea, good idea. Look, I again,
I have no problem with with us having a legal
process that people respect. All I know, my only experience
in any of this naturalization ceremonies anything, is the people
that come through and and it's a it's an actually
arduous process. But if they do it, they usually are
very proud and excited to be considered American citizens. And

(48:47):
they are I think the assimilation works better, and so
I I don't think there's anything wrong with Tom's I
like Tom's idea.

Speaker 2 (48:54):
That's good idea as well. Back to the Hoons we go.
Let's go to Ogden and hear what Tom has to
say to Night here on the rodden Greg, show high Tom.

Speaker 3 (49:00):
How are you good? How is everything? We're doing well?
Thank you? Tom? What are your thoughts on this?

Speaker 1 (49:09):
Yeah?

Speaker 13 (49:10):
Sorry, I just wanted to throw in the money side
of this. You know, it's not a cultural thing, it's
not anything. But when you're doing business with the government,
it's perfectly reasonable to say it's going to be done
in one language and one language only because it costs
too much money to the taxpayer to produce documents and
multiple languages. It could be something other than English, but

(49:30):
in this case, English is our history. So for now
it's going to English because the taxpayers are not going
to be on the hook at any level of government
to produce government forms and products on the Internet or
otherwise in person to pay for that service.

Speaker 3 (49:47):
It's not right.

Speaker 1 (49:49):
You're here. I agree, and I think it's a I
don't think you can really enjoy all of the American dream,
have all the not equal outcome, but equal opportunities. If
you don't speak English, I think it's I think it
handicaps anybody immediately if they are not learning. And how
many times have you heard and I've heard this of
friends of immigrant families where their grandparents would not let

(50:12):
them speak their native town. They wanted them speak in
English because they knew that their grandchildren or children, whatever
it may be, needed to have full access to this
country and all the benefits that are herein And the
way you do that is you get to talk to you,
you communicate, you get to be part of the workforce.
All of that requires knowing English.

Speaker 2 (50:32):
Well, that was the rule for all the immigrants and
probably your family was involved in this coming in from
Ireland in the late eighteen hundreds early nineteen hundreds, is
that you speak English in the home. We don't speak
our native language anymore. And I am a big proponent.
I don't know what has ever held this up making
English the official language of the United States of America.

(50:53):
I don't understand what has ever held that up.

Speaker 1 (50:56):
It is so self defeating to not do that. And look,
let's let's not someone's going to say, oh, there's xenophobes,
you know, or whatever. If I go to a different
country and they speak completely if I go to Mexico,
if I went to any country in the world and
they did not speak English, I would just kind of
know I would be at a disadvantage in that country
until I started understanding what the people around me are saying.

(51:17):
That is that there's nothing you can't attach a moral
failure to that fact that if you don't know what
the people in the country are saying, you're not going
to have the same opportunities as if you did know
exactly what they were saying and could communicate effectively. That's
all we're talking about. It's not a racist thing, it's
not a xenophobic thing. It's a practical life skill, that's it.

Speaker 2 (51:40):
Well, you asked teachers out there, and you've heard from
teachers before, Greg, We're saying, they come to class, they
can't speak a word of English. Now, how are we
supposed to communicate with them? And it's not.

Speaker 1 (51:49):
One or two or three languages. We're talking hundreds of
different languages that these schools are confronted with. They have
software that's tried, you know, where the kids spend time,
where they have software, they can speak the language that
their native tongue. But I am telling you it is
absolutely one hundred percent impossible for these for these teachers
with as many kids where English as a second language,
where they might not know any English at all, but

(52:11):
the languages they speak are so diverse. There's no teacher
ready for that in any class. And when we look
at our literacy rates that are dropping so much, can
we do? We wonder why if we're not seeing English
embraced and taught and expected to be spoken anywhere in
our country. It's the way it should be.

Speaker 2 (52:30):
I remember go someone told me they had fourteen languages
in an elementary school. Yes, fourteen ye.

Speaker 1 (52:37):
I didn't realize that until I dove into one of
these schools that had you know, where there were so
many different people from different nationalities, and I could not
believe the number of languages was. It was north of fourteen.
It was more. It's it's more than we think, and
it's it's impossible for any teacher to be able to
navigate that a class with that many languages being spoken
by the students.

Speaker 2 (52:55):
More your calls and comments coming up. It is the
Rod and Greg Show right here on Utah's Talk Radio
one oh five nine kN rs. President Trump took a
show on the road yesterday, the Affordability tour. He was
in Pennsylvania. We'll get reaction to that coming up and
in the six o'clock over right now, we're talking about
this question before you tonight and Greg and I have

(53:17):
been debating this about should immigrants who come into this
country be allowed to immediately get on welfare? Costing the
American taxpayer billions of dollars each and every year eight
eight eight five seven eight zero one zero on your
cell phone dial pound two fifty and simply say, hey,
rod or Leavin's comment on our talkback line, and let's
go to some of those comments right now. Here's one

(53:38):
of our listeners weighing in on this topic. Tonight, Hey,
Rod and Greg.

Speaker 14 (53:42):
Remember Rush Limbaugh was a popular radio host a few
years back. Oh yeah, he played a segment where he
listed his requirements for a immigrant to move to the country.
And then after you listed off all these things, you
had to have money, you had to have education, stuff
like that. He told us that this was actually the
immigration requirements for I believe it was Mexico.

Speaker 1 (54:05):
That's right. I remember that you remember. I remember this clip.
He said, here's what I think we should do, and
he went down the list, and it was it was
pretty thorough. And they said, and by the way, I
didn't make up that list. That is what it takes
to be a citizen, to immigrate and be a citizen
in Mexico.

Speaker 3 (54:22):
And it was real.

Speaker 1 (54:23):
It's quite the list. Yes, and to be in Mexico,
not to move to Mexico and be a CITs you
had to do all those things. And it was a
really strong point. And I just think that there is
so much by way of public policy that if we
treated everyone and everything like a two way street, if
you just do it, just give as good as you get, boy,
we'd sort out a lot of problems. So I'd look

(54:45):
at the surrounding countries, see what their standards are, and hey,
if they have a high standard in a high bar,
let's just let's just meet.

Speaker 2 (54:52):
Let's let's mimic that one. Yes, can't be wrong. All right,
here's another call on our talk back line.

Speaker 14 (54:58):
Even Teddy Roosevelt, and if you're going to come to
our country, the least you can do is speak our language.

Speaker 1 (55:05):
Seems pretty practical.

Speaker 2 (55:08):
Yeah, it sure does. Seems pretty practical, and even Teddy Roosevelt.
I just don't understand Greg why this argument has never
gotten through to the American people or to the politician. Yeah,
speak the language. Is that too much to ask?

Speaker 1 (55:22):
And it's not. And I know the leftists want to
say that this is xenophobic, and it's it's racist, and
it's they got all these moral failings attached to saying
English only. I'm just going to tell you that again
on this two way street, kind of like what rush
Limbaugh did on standards of citizenship that Mexico has. If
you go to some other part of this world and
you expect to have any kind of life, you would

(55:43):
need to understand the language, the native tongue of wherever
it is that you live. Period. Yeah, that's it. I
don't have to live there to know that. That would
be the rule, or my best shot would be to
do that. And so to expect that or to want that,
it's not there's no there is no moral failing to that.
That's just reality. It's just reality. And one of our
colors brought up a good point. All the cost of

(56:05):
trying to put everything, all the directions and everything in
different languages, stop. They need people need to know English
to really thrive in this country. And if we want
the best for people, give them the best shot.

Speaker 2 (56:16):
Well some point, how about these uh, these truck drivers
who cannot speak English, but they get their CDL license,
can't read a traffic sign on the highway because they
don't speak the language, do something they don't shouldn't be
doing and kill somebody.

Speaker 3 (56:30):
Yes, is that it?

Speaker 2 (56:31):
I mean, that's that's a classic case of a reason
why we all need to speak English easily.

Speaker 6 (56:37):
Yep.

Speaker 1 (56:38):
I mean, it's so it's so obvious. Again, I feel
like we've actually we just common sense is now it's
like right of center common sense. It's it's not it's
not just a common There's things that are said now
that used to not have any politics to it. There
were it was just common sense. Fetterman's doing this. He

(56:58):
keeps saying things like common sense. He condemned the people
that attacked Erica Kirk, Charlie Kirk's wife and said, leave
this woman. She's a widower, so they have kids. It
was common sense.

Speaker 3 (57:08):
Crazy.

Speaker 2 (57:09):
President Trump back on the road with his affordability tour.
We'll get a take on that coming up next time.
As we roll along on this day Man Wednesday Show.

Speaker 1 (57:20):
Our next guest is it's going to be an interesting discussion.
I think. I think there is a magic to President
Trump and his rallies so that we have not seen
before he arrived on the political scene, and I don't
think we'll see again. And I'm surprised that his Pennsylvania
rally last night, I forgot a little about how how

(57:41):
compelling he can be because I thought that that he
brought the house down and did a great job. And
I think that the Republicans in Congress they need him.
It's sad they need him as much as they do.
But if you want to see good midterms, you're gonna
need to get You're gonna need to get the President
out there like he was in Pennsylvania last.

Speaker 2 (57:58):
Yeah, he charges people upgrade and I all want I
watched a portion of that last night, and it's almost
for for Trump supporters, the Magga crowd out there, going
to a Trump rally is like almost a therapy session
because they come away saying, that's our guy.

Speaker 3 (58:14):
Man, we love that guy.

Speaker 2 (58:15):
We love what he says, even though he is off sometimes,
you know, on some tangents. We saw that we saw then,
but it's almosto a therapy session for people. They just
love it. They're entertained. He's funny. Oftentimes he just speaks
off the cuff and it just makes it so entertaining.

Speaker 1 (58:33):
Yeah, just so you know the did detail the why,
Rod and I know exactly when he went off script?
Is it where we were sitting on the stage, we
could actually see his teleprompter. Yeah, we could, so when
he started talking, we saw the teleprompter stop in its
tracks and it was not moving because he wasn't reading
a thing on it. And it was so long that
I texted Queen Bea, who was at home, and said,

(58:53):
until you hear this sentence. He's just he's just freelancing
right now. He's just he's just on a he's on
his own.

Speaker 2 (58:59):
He's on I tell you what, that teleprompter operator better
be good cause he's got to pick it up where
Trump left off.

Speaker 3 (59:06):
And you don't know where he's going to go with
this now.

Speaker 2 (59:08):
Well, you know, Ronald Reagan has forever been called the
great communicator. Well, our next guest joining us on our
news Maker line is Chase Jennings. He is a founder
of Jennings' Strategy Group that's a political group. He calls
Donald Trump the master messenger. Yes, kind of like that
little great Jase's joining us now, Chase, thanks for joining us.
Donald Trump back on the road last night. What'd you

(59:29):
make of it?

Speaker 15 (59:29):
Yeah, well I did this. You know, I put out
an article this morning that just talked about how you
know he's the master messenger. I mean, the GOP in
twenty twenty six. You look at what we were able to
accomplish this year in Congress that got the one big
beautiful bill pass. Now it's like, okay, as we moved
to twenty twenty six, obviously the election is midterms is
the big deal. So they got to really figure out, Okay,

(59:50):
what's the winning message that's going to take us over
the top that we're gonna be able to win these midterms.
And President Trump last night, in my opinion, said here
you go, guys, here's the exactly what you need to
entry across the mid terms. He talked about apportability, He
talks about prices coming down. He talked about Obamacare, how
he wants to give money straight from the insurance companies
because I know you guys know this, but these Obamacare

(01:00:13):
subsidies because Obamacare is so expensive, it goes straight to
the healthcare to the insurance company, right, I mean, it's
it's comic, you know. So and so he wants to
go straight to the American people. But of course that's
the way it should be, and that should have been
something that we thought about already. But again, that's how
diverse President Trump's that's the way he handles things, you know.

(01:00:34):
And so when he handled the he also discussed last
night in Pennsylvania the immigration and it's not just okay,
the border is secure, Yes, we know that now, which
is miraculous frankly what he's been able to do already
just by executive authority. Of course the one by beautiful
bill plus the ICE and so that was helpful. But
even okay, now you got to switch to within the

(01:00:56):
border walls. Okay, what's our problem here? Of course, ICE
is departing, folks, But it's the job. It's the American
jobs that have been lost to illegal four workers. And
so Trent President Trump hil on that last night. That's
something I think the GOP in twenty twenty six has
got to go after. And I think when you look
at the broad brush of everything, President Trump hit on.
He literally said, crystal clear, Hey, GOP Republicans, this is

(01:01:18):
the message. Take it and run with it.

Speaker 1 (01:01:20):
You know, as an electric crowd in Pennsylvania. Last night,
I hear that JD. Van's Vice President's going to go
to Allen I think Allentown next week, So they're going
to go back to Pennsylvania. But it reminded me. I
didn't think I had forgotten, but it reminded me of
the kind of enthusiasm that President Trump can create at
his rallies and the way he does share the narrative
of what they've done or what he's going to do.

(01:01:42):
My question is does he have to do this for Congress?
For the GOP in Congress, do they work half as
hard as this man? Is it the message that's missing
from the Republicans in Congress or is it the actions
and the work ethic that you see out of Trump
and his administration? What is it? Does he just have
to shape it for people? Can Congress do some of
this work with the American people?

Speaker 15 (01:02:04):
I think it's a great question. I think right now
when fun unfortunately, I think it's both. We've got to
get the right message, which I think the President Trump
just game Congress last night, but they got to get
things done again. What when when when President Trump is
not on the ballot, And we've discussed this before, how
do you get GOP republishing conservative voters to the polls?
And so and you mentioned this too, And it's actually
interesting you said that because I thought about it this

(01:02:25):
morning as well. The energy that he brings and is
able to capture in a crowd is just unbelievable. I
almost forgot how you know, during how how well he
campaigns when he's on the road and he's energized when
people are fired up, Like you said, JD. Vans is
going to go by Bfvans are going to go back
to Pennsylvania next week from what I've heard as well.
And so you've got you got him trying to put

(01:02:46):
all these cars together. I believe Susie Wilds even I
think it was last week she was talking about Chief
of SATH Susie wils was talking about that we're going
to get him on the road and President Trump is
going to be campaigning all across the country is as
much as he possibly can. And to your point, the
man is that just he's just a worker. He's a worker, man.
I mean, the guy is constantly going. I mean, it's

(01:03:08):
amazing how much he can go. And then you hear
all these funny stories about the meat he's trying to act, like,
even trying to put him in the ballpark where Joe
Biden is and was, and it's just laughable because it's
the president. He's traveled the globe for crowd out at.

Speaker 11 (01:03:24):
Chan.

Speaker 2 (01:03:24):
I wanted to ask you follow up on what points
that you and Greg have made. What kind of magic
dust does this guy have where he can go in
front of a rally, sprinkles the dust on the rally,
and I don't know what happens. I mean, he can
go off script, he can say some things he had
just shake your head out, but they just seem to
eat it up. I mean, what kind of magic dust
does Donald Trump have?

Speaker 15 (01:03:45):
Yeah, it's a good question. I think honestly, it's just
a gift. I mean, uh, you know, we talked about
Ronald Reagan. You talk about a guy that's just a
gifted communicator. Something. When President Trump gets in front of
a crowd, and he does this to a certain extent
in the Oval office, right when he's taken the questions
from reporters, he's in his chair, he's behind the resolute desk,
he's taking questions and he's answering them. He does that regularly, right,

(01:04:07):
but forgetting and remembering when he's in front of a crowd,
like you said, there is just something to it that
when he gets a crowd going, and again, he believes
this stuff, and his team believes this stuff. And so
when you have a president that we have right now,
which we have wanted forever, as someone who's really going
to support the American people and the American economy and

(01:04:30):
bringing jobs back and stopping the flow of illegal efforts
and stopping drugs. I mean even I didn't even mention
this earlier, but he mentioned the drug boats last night.
A lot of members of Congress are probably struggling with lunk. Oh,
we're you know, we're blowing up these drug boats. But
he put it basically to where, hey, guys, just go
ahead and say that the twenty five every boat thing

(01:04:51):
gets destroyed, it's twenty five thousand American lines. That's the
way you got to look at.

Speaker 1 (01:04:57):
You know, Mike tell for how energetic and and really
how effective he is at communicating, is that he had
Treasury Secretary Scott bessent with him last night. Scott Besson
brought down the House. When does a Treasury secretary bring
down a house of any administration in the history of
for presidential administrations. When has a secretary, and especially you

(01:05:19):
know Scott Beston, isn't it You know, I would even
call him an extrovert really, but they crazy about this
guy and so it even even I think it even
splashes on his cabinet where you know who they are,
you know what they're working on, even people that might
not be as connected to politics. There has to be
something to that.

Speaker 15 (01:05:38):
Absolutely, his team is just special. To your point, he's
got a special team. You look at like you your
point about Scott Besston, You're like, where is this guy being?
You got to start wondering, like was he around last time?
I know he wasn't born yesterday.

Speaker 1 (01:05:52):
Yeah.

Speaker 15 (01:05:52):
The way he goes out, he calms the markets. He
says exactly what needs to be said. And it's because
to any embarrassed pundits and outlets that are trying to
go at him, because he understands the policy so well,
he's been in it so long, and like you said,
he's not some you know Donald Trump, Ronald Reagan out
there type guy. But he just is so good at knowing,

(01:06:15):
knowing his role and playing that role really well. And
I know President Trump loved him. In the country is
starting to really get to know him and love him
as well.

Speaker 2 (01:06:21):
Chase, thank you very much for joining us, Chase Jennings.
He's a political strategy. Just talking about the President's affordability
to her last night and y or so on. Scott
Bessen is a is a Treasury secretary, is e comist.

Speaker 3 (01:06:33):
He's just stiff as he.

Speaker 1 (01:06:34):
More buttoned up. He's he's just got this like very
calm way, and even because even when he gets a
little excited, he just kind of has a slight stutter bab.
He'll talk to you and then he'll just just slam
them with data and facts and just and he and
he really does push back on those in the talking
heads in a very persuasive way. But you know, usually

(01:06:56):
no one knows who the Treasury secretary is. You can
put it in on a Jeopardy show and everybody would lose.
But everybody knows Scott Besson and everyone respects him and
loves him. And I'm telling I'm talking from the you know,
the important people down to the average Joe and Jane.
We love Scott Besson.

Speaker 2 (01:07:11):
And he knows how to put down the media. Oh
he's very good.

Speaker 1 (01:07:14):
Yeah, and I think he's I think he's right. Two
chases right there. It's just a special cabinet. I think
we could go down the list and talk about each
member of that cabinet and in a unique way that
you don't get to usually talk about a president's cabinet.

Speaker 2 (01:07:26):
Now, before we break, how embarrassing would this be? Donald
Trump's on air force one. Oh yeah, in the hallway, right,
so taking questions from reporters like he normally does. You'll see, Well,
he's leaning against the door. Apparently that door is the toilet, yes, right,
and someone's in there and they try to come out

(01:07:46):
and bump the president when he's answering a question.

Speaker 1 (01:07:49):
So he looks over at the door. He's like, whoa,
what hell, there's someone in there, And the door starts
to open, and then whoever was in there wisely thought, no,
there's cameras on right now, I am not coming out
of this bathroom. Will the media is all around this bathroom?
Smart come out, No, No, I'm not coming. We'll be

(01:08:11):
staying in here till this plane lands. I will that
there's not a seatbelt on here, I'll hit the ceiling.
I'm not coming out.

Speaker 3 (01:08:16):
I'm not coming out.

Speaker 2 (01:08:16):
Funny moment today, All right, Mary coming to Kamala Harris
back in the news for something she said yesterday.

Speaker 1 (01:08:22):
Oh, I'm sure it's very enlightened, profound.

Speaker 3 (01:08:25):
She is so spot on with this.

Speaker 2 (01:08:27):
We'll talk about that coming up next on The Rotten
Greg Show and Utah's Talk Radio one O five dine
k n r S Time with You. Well, Kamala Harris
is up to her old habits again again.

Speaker 1 (01:08:39):
The only habit I know that she has that's quite
frequent is a cackle, Actually a couple a cackle and
something said that you can't understand the words out.

Speaker 3 (01:08:50):
I have a third one, okay, losing.

Speaker 1 (01:08:53):
Oh yeah, she does that too. She's good at that.

Speaker 2 (01:08:57):
Well, apparently she sat down and did an interview at
the New York Times talking about her book. Did not
answer any questions about twenty years.

Speaker 1 (01:09:05):
How old is this book? This is the longest book
tour in the history of books.

Speaker 2 (01:09:08):
But here's what she said. She said, there will be
a marble bust of me in Congress I am an
historic figure. Just ask me, man, that's what she said.
She said, and historic figure.

Speaker 1 (01:09:27):
Well, look, she's what she was, first female vice president.
I think by by, I think that does make her
historic so as much so that's that's true. But yeah,
I mean, if that's her way of saying that she's history,
because you know, a bust is what history. You're looking
at history. If that's her her signal that she's history,

(01:09:47):
then I'll accept that. I'm going to horror to it. Actually, yeah,
what are you still talking for. You've got a bust coming.
You have nothing to say. You're a You're a historic figure,
not irrelevant current figure.

Speaker 2 (01:10:00):
Speaking speaking of political figures, there is now a real
split in the Democratic Party in the state of Texas
thanks to one Jasmin Crockett, who announced yesterday she's running
for the US Senate. A lot of Democrats are very nervous.
I want you to listen to Greg how she kicked
off her campaign yesterday with a rap artist making the announcement.

Speaker 16 (01:10:20):
She ain't never scared of, she ain't never been who
was willing to go toe to toe against the president.
I can't wrap my head around someone who votes Republicans.
She advocate for feeding kids, they protect the most, touching
them Trump and baden his own country with our army.

Speaker 11 (01:10:35):
What a show.

Speaker 16 (01:10:36):
We remember Pearl Harper by illegill bombing boats, which I
thought we wasn't gonna do nothing, buddy, think again. They
only trying to scare out her running because they think
she'll win. Listen, thought I told y'all win, never scared.

Speaker 5 (01:10:48):
Now.

Speaker 16 (01:10:48):
Look who name on the docket got two words for
every race is biggot Jasmine Crockett.

Speaker 2 (01:10:53):
Everyone he forgets the words history are words and I
lay blue.

Speaker 1 (01:11:00):
He doesn't remember the words.

Speaker 16 (01:11:01):
I hope my money goes decided. Isn't trying to say
up for the bids. I hope she's stand on business,
off and tost Texas so don't need no mold, bad built,
bleached BLD, butsh bodies moving forward.

Speaker 2 (01:11:14):
So she uses a rap artist to sing in her
announcement and he forgot the lyrics.

Speaker 1 (01:11:20):
Yeah, that's that's that's clear about the campaign. It does
well that. Plus I think she likened the Hispanic vote
in Texas to slaves, to having a slave mentality. That's
gonna go gangbusters in Texas. I'm sure. I'm sure that
if you're a Democrat running against Jasmine Crockett. I'm just
gonna go ahead and give you a little free advice.

(01:11:40):
Use that, Okay, just just put on, you know, repeat that.
She takes that. The Hispanic vote that voted for Trump
just have a slave mentality. I'm sure they love being
spoken down to like that.

Speaker 2 (01:11:54):
Yeah, slave mentality. But she's right. And by the way,
uh Elon Musk says Those was somewhat successful, but he
wouldn't do it again.

Speaker 1 (01:12:04):
Yeah, Well, I'm sad because I think if it isn't successful,
it's because the people spending that money are getting away
with it, and he wasn't able to stop him. I
do think his work exposed the NGOs in a way
that we would have never understood before, even his work
on the social security side of it, where people over
one hundred years old were still on rolls and people
are being paid that we know don't exist. I think

(01:12:26):
that those did some really important things. And I had
to hear him say he wouldn't do it again because
I think what they did accomplish was worthwhile. I think
they have saved the taxpayers a lot of money.

Speaker 2 (01:12:36):
Well, and he runs into the state, I mean the
the bureaucratic state, Greg I mean, and the President is
trying to defeat that. Now thanks to what this case
before the US Supreme Court. If the president has a
right to fire these agency heads who were never elected
but created this agency because of the actions of Congress,
I just think the day, just think what he could

(01:12:57):
have done well the deep state and gotten in here.

Speaker 1 (01:13:00):
Well, it's that, plus it's these leftist, elitist regi media
that the Tesla takedown, they were just trying to They
were actively trying to destroy the man's businesses and the
multiple businesses on fire. Yeah, and people who owned teslas
were having them vandalized. They were they were using violence
intimidation to get him to stop looking, to stop doing
what he was doing, because he was treating it like

(01:13:21):
when he when he bought it. He would just camp
out and sleep on the factory floor or at Twitter.
He'd sleep there and he'd never stop working to bring
the smartest young people around. They would just keep digging
and finding. And they were doing that. The bureaucrats couldn't
believe they were going to stay overnight over the weekend.
They wanted to go home at five actually on Friday
at four and these guys are ordering pizza, They're going

(01:13:42):
to stay over the weekend. It was freaking them out.

Speaker 3 (01:13:44):
Yeah, they hated it.

Speaker 1 (01:13:45):
I wish he could have kept going.

Speaker 2 (01:13:46):
I too. I'm with you on that one. All right,
more coming up. It is the Rod and Greg Show
on Utah's Talk Radio one O five nine d NRS
rap song that Jasmin Crockett used to introducer campaign yesterday. Yeah,
he was just laughing he was having so much fun.

Speaker 1 (01:14:00):
He also is predicting that Pam Bondi might not be
Attorney General for a long something that.

Speaker 3 (01:14:06):
Glenn Beck has expressed concern about Pam.

Speaker 1 (01:14:08):
Bondy and and he said that his sources say, just
watch what the president says. If it's not true, you'll
see him warm up to the person and tell the
media they're wrong. And if he doesn't, then you can
take from that what you want. But but you know,
I so, I guess he puts some posts out there
were I don't know if they were critical of Pam Bondi,
but they were his making his case very publicly about

(01:14:30):
what he was hoping Pam Bondi would do. I've also
heard though that Christy know the homeless it might go
but I haven't. I don't.

Speaker 3 (01:14:41):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:14:42):
If you're the president, would you be a little ticked
off they bring a case against Letitia James, and James
call me and they have already been tossed out. Yeah,
some of that, they didn't have that nailed down.

Speaker 1 (01:14:53):
But they're judges too, they're they're they're they're playing behind
the eight ball when it comes to these rotten judges,
especially in Virginia.

Speaker 2 (01:15:00):
You was in the state of Presidents, but apparently we
can't get a good one out of there anymore anymore.
I've got to follow up on that story in Seattle
and the World Cup soccer match.

Speaker 1 (01:15:13):
Remember the story, Oh yeah, yeah, thereams that the last
teams on Earth that would want to be part of
their gay pride celebration.

Speaker 3 (01:15:22):
Yeah, is it?

Speaker 1 (01:15:24):
Is it still full seam ahead?

Speaker 2 (01:15:26):
Well, we'll see, we'll bring up to speed on this.
Seattle has decided to host what they're calling a pride
match on June twenty sixth as part of the World
Cup twenty twenty six World Cup competition. Right, Well, apparently
the two teams involved in this match, Egypt and Iran.
I think homosexuality is illegal.

Speaker 1 (01:15:49):
So basically you're sending them into a prison yard to
play soccer, which they don't like.

Speaker 2 (01:15:54):
Well, Egypt has got on the attack against FIFA and
on the attack against Seattle, saying you staged this event,
we ain't playing there.

Speaker 6 (01:16:03):
You go.

Speaker 1 (01:16:05):
You know, you wondered how this was going to play out,
and it didn't. It never seemed like it was going
to be a good combination at it.

Speaker 2 (01:16:12):
Yeah, Well, here's what they said. The Egyptian Football Association,
that's what they called Soccer around the World explained in
the letter that while FIFA is committed to enduring a
respectful and welcoming the environment for all fans, and in
order to maintain the spirit of unity in peace, it
is necessary to avoid including activities that could provoke cultural

(01:16:33):
and religious sensitivities.

Speaker 1 (01:16:35):
Well, how come I just for them? I mean a
lot of my sensitivities are offended. No one seems to care.

Speaker 11 (01:16:42):
Es.

Speaker 2 (01:16:43):
Yeah, they yeah, they will see what happens and if
they changed the day. But you know, someone obviously did
not check who was going to play and what their
position was on a home on site.

Speaker 1 (01:16:55):
So right, because the Democrats are just so they're just
so shallow and they don't really I mean, they just
have such a skewed world view. They think everyone thinks
the way they do. They just they can't imagine that
anyone wouldn't and so it shocks them when there's any
pushback on any level. They can't believe it.

Speaker 2 (01:17:11):
Yeah, these countries, these countries Egypt and around are not
afraid to say eh, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:17:16):
They got a track record for just saying okay, I
mean it's a it's sometimes it's a violent one. They
should be careful.

Speaker 2 (01:17:22):
Here's how we treat homosexuals in our country. Throw them
off the roof.

Speaker 1 (01:17:25):
How about the gay pride for Palestine group people. Isn't
that the funniest thing in the world. People that they
gay pride in the trans people for you know, free Palestine.
Who would absolutely throw them off of a you know,
a building if they could. It just shows an absolute
ignorance to the world they live in.

Speaker 2 (01:17:43):
Yeah, storry. Today in the Wall Street Journal, potheads are
heading to the emergency room Greg some surprising news a
referendum campaign gaining support in Massachusetts, of all places, to
reverse the state's twenty sixteen legalization of recreational pot Doctors
at mass General Brigham Hospital found the share of adolescents

(01:18:04):
with psychiatric emergencies who tested positive for THHC jump nearly
four fold after the drug was legalized. Surprise, surprise.

Speaker 1 (01:18:14):
So while the Democrats have been getting rid of Joe
Cammell and they've been trying to stop kids from smoking tobacco,
and they've been all in on this, the Democrats have
they wanted marijuana, gummies, joints, you name it, to be recreational.
I mean, they're just they just can't get it right.
Of course they want to ban it.

Speaker 2 (01:18:32):
Okay, Well, this is a warning for you and Denny tonight. Okay,
you ready for.

Speaker 1 (01:18:36):
This, Denny, don't believe it. I know what it's about.

Speaker 3 (01:18:38):
Already ready for this, Denny.

Speaker 1 (01:18:40):
Fake news? It's fake news.

Speaker 2 (01:18:42):
Fit man nearly killed by his energy drink habit. What
happened when his body finally crashed.

Speaker 1 (01:18:48):
Well, he obviously wasn't smart about his consumption, like Denny
and I are. We don't take you.

Speaker 3 (01:18:53):
Got these two huge monster drinks.

Speaker 1 (01:18:55):
Yeah, as he should. And I'm telling you you got
to know the show is Yes, you gotta know how
much your body can take by way of caffeine content
you had today? I just uh two when you when
you stop and count I have, I have ice started.
I gotta start morning. I gotta I got afrigerator in
the garage, and I have a morning ritual, go right

(01:19:17):
down there and get a nice can every morning. That's
my kickstart. And then at some point the day before
I get to the station, or as I get to
the station, I have another, a smaller one because I'm
I'm sensible that way, A smaller one. It's my it's
my chaser, it's my afternoon chaser. I get a.

Speaker 7 (01:19:32):
Little you know.

Speaker 1 (01:19:32):
Another little.

Speaker 3 (01:19:35):
Up for the show is er energy drink.

Speaker 1 (01:19:37):
Yeah, I love them. Some people think I don't need them,
but I probably don't, but I do like them.

Speaker 2 (01:19:43):
I would be in that camp knowing you have you
worked with you for now almost a year and a half.

Speaker 1 (01:19:48):
Every day it's been blissing.

Speaker 9 (01:19:50):
You know it.

Speaker 1 (01:19:51):
You've loved it. You've absolutely loved it.

Speaker 3 (01:19:53):
The the speech.

Speaker 2 (01:19:55):
See Denny hasn't spoken yet today and you know why
because he probably like that.

Speaker 1 (01:20:00):
Yeah, anyone who called the station and called and spoke
to Danny did are you able to understand what he
was saying? Was he was he clear in his speech?

Speaker 3 (01:20:09):
Show you guys who drink the energy jans I.

Speaker 1 (01:20:12):
Guarantee of that. Jim guy drank way too much. Well
he doesn't say, I mean, of course, like normal, because
they're fearmongers. They just want you to think to drink
itself is bad.

Speaker 2 (01:20:21):
It's not treated for extremely high blood pressure and a stroke.

Speaker 1 (01:20:25):
You know, I have low blood pressure? I do?

Speaker 3 (01:20:28):
You do?

Speaker 1 (01:20:28):
I have low blood pressure?

Speaker 6 (01:20:29):
You?

Speaker 1 (01:20:30):
Yes? My doctor thinks I have the blood pressure of
a twenty three year old. Quote. I don't know what
it is. I don't follow the numbers. I'm just telling
you I heard the assessment after I have low blood pressure. Wow,
and that's what my drinks everything.

Speaker 3 (01:20:44):
I have a low heart rate, which is good.

Speaker 1 (01:20:46):
Yeah, that's good.

Speaker 3 (01:20:46):
Yeah, very very low resting heart rate.

Speaker 1 (01:20:49):
Yep. I so I I am unphased by these energy
drinks in terms of blood pressure. I laugh at it.

Speaker 3 (01:20:57):
Do you think any of our listeners found this interesting?

Speaker 1 (01:21:00):
Well? Yeah, we we took your warning about energy drinks
and we threw that out the window as fake.

Speaker 2 (01:21:06):
You and Denny, there he is again, he's drinking another
one to Wow. All right, We've got more to come.
Final segment of the Rod and Greg Show right here
on Utah's Talk Radio one O five. Dine kN r s.

Speaker 1 (01:21:18):
Years and it's very frustrating that class, and you're very oppressive.

Speaker 3 (01:21:22):
How do we get on that topic.

Speaker 1 (01:21:25):
I don't know time, I don't know, it's that time.
I'm time blind.

Speaker 3 (01:21:28):
Yeah, oh, don't use that again.

Speaker 1 (01:21:30):
Yeah it was. I had a professor. It was very
very punitive about my lateness.

Speaker 3 (01:21:36):
Well he should be.

Speaker 1 (01:21:37):
It's colling. You shouldn't even care.

Speaker 3 (01:21:39):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:21:40):
Well, a couple of things I want to I got
a great email, Greg, I'll share with our audience right now.
It was about our discussion about English being the official
language in the US, and you know what's going on
with the Somali refugees, Daniel wrote. Send us to this email.
He said, twenty five years ago, I read an article
about a woman of Mexican descent who had risen to

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very high ranks in her career. I think in the
medical field. She had six or seven siblings, several of
whom had achieved success and notoriety in their fields. The
author of the article had interviewed her father. He said
something along these lines. In school during the day, they
teach them in Spanish so they can be janitors or

(01:22:23):
bus boys. At night, I taught them English so they
could be doctors and lawyers. Does any more need to
be said than this? When it comes from a Mexican immigrant,
so Spanish to get at home at night, he teaches
them English because he wants them to become doctors and lawyers.

Speaker 1 (01:22:42):
Yeah, I think. I think having a culture, having a
language barrier does keep you obviously would keep people down.
And if you're supporting that, then you are supporting the
oppression of and holding down people for cheap labor.

Speaker 3 (01:22:53):
Mm HM's it.

Speaker 2 (01:22:54):
Yeah, cell phones. Cell phones are now banned in schools
here in Utah, are they not?

Speaker 3 (01:23:00):
I thought they.

Speaker 1 (01:23:01):
Let the districts work out how they like to implement that,
But that is the law.

Speaker 2 (01:23:06):
Well, there are now twenty two states that have laws
on regulating local public school districts to ban or limit
cell phones. The law appears to be having a positive
effect researcher. Researchers from the University of Rochester and the
RAND Corporation found that in the first full year that
Florida's in school cell phone ban was an effect, student

(01:23:26):
test scores increased by as much as ten percent. So
maybe it's working.

Speaker 1 (01:23:31):
I I hope.

Speaker 3 (01:23:36):
You'd find a way around it.

Speaker 1 (01:23:37):
Oh, I would this era we live in now. I
would have had I would have been the every teacher
and administrator would have like a nose ring on their
nose and a two chain link chain. I would guide
them around the school as a student, because I would
just rule these stupid rules they've created. I would say

(01:23:57):
I'm a woman. I would lock in every ladies room
and I would They would all screech and cry, and
I would just say, oh, yeah, I'm gender fluid. What
do you want to do about it.

Speaker 3 (01:24:04):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:24:04):
I would have taken COVID and said I can't taste
or smell, I'm leaving. I would have taken every one
of these dumb rules, and I would have.

Speaker 3 (01:24:11):
Utilized them to your advantage.

Speaker 1 (01:24:13):
Yeah, I didn't like going to school.

Speaker 3 (01:24:15):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:24:15):
Study found that at the beginning, and I imagine it's
happened here. There was an increase in suspensions because kids
weren't following the rules. Yeah, I'm staring right at you.
But that has declined out, and they say test scores
are going up, so we'll have to see if it works.

Speaker 3 (01:24:30):
I hope it does.

Speaker 1 (01:24:31):
Yeah, I after saying all that, I said, I do
think that you know, I was an outlier. You can't
have what I would the way I was, I was
a feral child. You can't have that is your normal,
your normal class. And I think it's gotten that way.
I think that absenteeism is off through the roof. I
think I think there's a lot of challenges going on.

Speaker 2 (01:24:50):
You know, I just got thinking we should start every show,
every day with a parental advisory to parents, parents throughout
this great community of ours, not to allow their children
to listen to this show because the bad habits you
would teach them.

Speaker 1 (01:25:08):
No, I you know what, I I'm a lesson. What
do they call it a caution a lesson of caution
or what a cautionary tale? I'm a cautionary tale, That's
what I am.

Speaker 2 (01:25:17):
Yeah, but we should put up a rental advice advisory.
Mom and dad, please do not let your children listen
to the Greg qes on this show, because.

Speaker 1 (01:25:27):
Yeah, you know, and you know what. I'm only coming
clean because my kids are adults now too. I wouldn't
be I wouldn't be talking like that if I still
these kids to raise.

Speaker 3 (01:25:35):
That's true.

Speaker 2 (01:25:35):
I wouldn't never never tell your children about the bad
times or the dangerous times.

Speaker 1 (01:25:42):
And I'll give you this paranorlel advice. If your kid
asked you a question, say, I just won't answer it
because if I say yes and I answered, you'll think
that that's permission to do it. If I say no,
you'll think I'm too stiff and I don't understand. Or
there's no correct answer. Yeah, there's no correct answers, So
don't ask.

Speaker 11 (01:26:00):
You know.

Speaker 1 (01:26:00):
I'm the I'm the boss. They're the kid that's I'm
running things, not them. Yeah, that's why it works.

Speaker 3 (01:26:04):
That's why it works in the huge household.

Speaker 1 (01:26:06):
Yeah, it's not a democracy, of course.

Speaker 3 (01:26:08):
It should never be.

Speaker 9 (01:26:09):
No.

Speaker 3 (01:26:09):
Yeah, Mom and dad learned to say.

Speaker 1 (01:26:11):
Those kids wild turn on me so fast. As a democracy,
i'd be I'd be sleeping out all you're outside.

Speaker 3 (01:26:15):
Your kids love you.

Speaker 1 (01:26:16):
Yeah, but they they're bossy.

Speaker 3 (01:26:18):
Yeah. Yeah, I wonder where they know that from.

Speaker 2 (01:26:21):
By the way, Australia became the first country to ban
social media for users younger than sixteen, blocking access to
ten platforms. The world is watching to see how this is.

Speaker 1 (01:26:31):
I am so much demotion because Australia is so heavy handed.
They make China look like land of liberty. So I
really am really not impressed with with what Australia has become.
But on this one sixteen and under man, you gotta
wonder if there isn't some value to that, how do
they how do they block that? It's interesting. They must
be daylight of everybody's device is to know who's sixteen

(01:26:55):
and who's not. I don't know, I.

Speaker 3 (01:26:56):
Don't know how they do this. Wow. Interesting.

Speaker 2 (01:26:58):
Yeah, Jesse Kelly coming your way at the top of
the hour, mister Hughes, You're headed to oversee the mammoth.

Speaker 1 (01:27:03):
Yes, I'm going to see him play defending Stanley Cup
champion Florida Panthers to have fun. You're kind of a creepy,
creepy I'll be pounding on that plexiglass for him, all right.

Speaker 11 (01:27:15):
That does it?

Speaker 2 (01:27:16):
Thrust tonight, head up, shoulders back, man, God bless you
and your family, this great country of ours.

Speaker 3 (01:27:20):
We'll talk to you tomorrow.