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Rod and Greg Show Daily Rundown - Wednesday, September 4, 2024

4:38 pm: Jim Robb, Vice President of Alliances and Activism for Numbers USA, joins the program for a conversation about his piece for Newsweek on how there is no free market for labor in America.

5:20 pm: Matty Altmyer, a Pennsylvania resident and drive-thru beer store operator, who also happens to be Greg’s cousin, joins Rod and Greg for a conversation about how residents of the state are talking about the presidential candidates.

6:20 pm: Curtis Rowley, a cherry farmer at Cherry Hill Farms, joins the program to discuss a proposed U.S. Food and Drug Administration rule that would change the classification of tart cherries because the added sugar is deemed “unhealthy.”
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
We are going to talk about this tragic shooting down
in Georgia out of school down there. We'll give the
latest details on that here in a minute. Apparently the
Russians are interfering with our elections again, Greg, we need
to be aware of that.

Speaker 2 (00:11):
Yes, the DOJ announced today that there is Russian interference
with Eve and Iran. And amazingly, it's anything that would
be disparaging Harris and promoting Trump. Isn't that something? It's
amazing smoking guns. You know, when Jim Acosta from CNN
is the one you show up with the exclusive, you
know that the fix is in.

Speaker 1 (00:32):
Yeah, the fix is in. We also are going to
talk with our special Pennsylvania election correspondent.

Speaker 2 (00:40):
That's right, ladies and gentlemen. The Rowden Gregg Show has
set up an important focus group in the Keystone State
in southwest Pennsylvania, where Pennsylvania is deemed the state that
will decide this election. We have people on the ground
and we are going to hear from gather knowledgeable source

(01:01):
on the ground in southwest Pennsylvania to tell us what
the people themselves are saying, now what the media is
telling us they're saying, not what the Russians are telling
us that they're saying, but what.

Speaker 1 (01:11):
The people are saying and every model that you look at,
greg Pennsylvania is the key if if if Kamala Harris
or Donald Trump do not win Pennsylvania, they will not
become president of the United States.

Speaker 2 (01:26):
It's starting to look that way. It looks like you
can lose Wisconsin, you can lose Michigan, you can lose
those states. If you win Pennsylvania, boy, and you keep
Georgia and you keep North Carolina, which are I think
are going to be read. Yeah, things look pretty good
and he looks good. Look, you know, I look at
the betting lines more than the polls because I think
people's hard cold cash is more of a statement than

(01:48):
what they would tell a polster. Even Arizona looks strong
for Trump right now.

Speaker 1 (01:53):
Yeah, and we'll get into that. Plus, Oh, let's see,
we have this event coming up on Saturday at Center.
There's a guy by the name of is it Tucker,
Tucker Carlson and Glenn Beck who will be together Saturday
night at Delta Center. Now we've we've made a couple
of arrangements. One we cannot tell you about it today,

(02:14):
but it is very unique. You will absolutely love it.
But the one we can tell you about is that
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I are going to take you to dinner and you're
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Speaker 2 (02:29):
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I will give you a little little inside. You want
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Speaker 1 (02:42):
We can't tell you what it is yet. It all
came together today and I tell you what, We're crossing
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We'll do that sometime during the show. Today. You'll get
dinner with Greg and I and are lovely spouses by
the way. We'll be there, I think they will be
and at Huckleberry Grill, which is just delicious food. And

(03:05):
then we'll take you to the Delta Center and we're
going to have some fun at the Delta Center. So
it's gonna be a great nice to win today, chance
to win today. All right, let's take a first segment
and talk about this. The shooting in Georgia today, as
Abby has been reporting, the shooters believed to be a
fourteen year old boy. Authorities have now confirmed that four
people are dead, two adults and two students. Thirty other

(03:28):
people were injured. Of those, thirty nine have been hospitalized.
They believe most of them were injured in just trying
to get out of the building, but nine people apparently
were hit by bullets and they're in the hospital right now.
We do not know their condition. As a matter of fact,
one student is quoted saying this is just frightening to read.
Greg A student named Sergio Caldera said that after being

(03:50):
made aware of the active shooting, someone banged on the
door of the classroom he was in and began yelling
open up, open up, open up, right now. He yelled
atselfveral times.

Speaker 3 (04:00):
Well.

Speaker 1 (04:01):
Caldero said when the knocking stopped, he heard more gunshots
screaming from outside the classroom he was huddled in his
chemistry class. I mean, can you imagine being a student
knowing there's an active shooting in the building and not
knowing what to do.

Speaker 2 (04:15):
Yeah, Yeah, it's it's disturbing. And I and I and
I will tell you that what we just instinctively would
resist is to try and politicize any of this.

Speaker 1 (04:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (04:26):
Sadly, the Democrats will go after these things as quickly
and as frequently as they can if they think they
can benefit from it, if they think that the that
the assailant is left of center, then they will keep
it all on the down low and and not say
a word. But look, we know our state legislatures trust
is attempting and is trying its level best to deal

(04:47):
with school safety because of moments like this. These are random,
senseless acts of violence that you can't predict when and where.
But boy, when they happen, you know, you sit back
and you wonder what could we do do? What can
you do to try and prevent it?

Speaker 1 (05:02):
Yeah, I'm talking about politicizing. The Advice President Kamala Harris
on the Campaign for All Today in New Hampshire that
it's outrageous that every day in our country parents have
to send their children to school worried about whether or
not their child will come home alive. She added, we
have to end this epidemic of gun violence in our
country once and for all. It doesn't have to be
this way. And you and I were talking about this

(05:24):
before the show started. You know, she wants to confiscate guns.
How many guns are there? Clark Composion told us three
hundred million, three hundred million guns in this country. What
are they going to do there?

Speaker 3 (05:33):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (05:34):
How's that going to We always skip over that little
inconvenient truth in details that there's three hundred million guns.
What kind of government would you like to go and
find and confiscate three hundred million guns in the United
States of America?

Speaker 1 (05:46):
Good luck?

Speaker 2 (05:46):
Humty? Yeah, they don't even want you to talk about
the fourteen million illegal aliens that have come across They
don't want you to ever touch them. But you're going
to come after three hundred million guns in this country. Yeah,
it doesn't make sense.

Speaker 1 (05:56):
And you know what Greg was sad about all of
this is there are there are kids in this country
of ours, and I really think around the world who
you know, are troubled. You know, they're sick, their minds
are sick. I mean, I don't know if you had
a chance to read any of the manifesto from the
shooter in Nashville, and they released it yesterday. This was

(06:17):
a very sick mind.

Speaker 2 (06:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (06:20):
I mean, you know, some of the things that she
wrote in this manifesto absolutely unbelievable. And probably the same
thing the student who is involved in the shooting, who,
by the way, surrendered to police. He's fourteen years old.
Can you imagine that fourteen years old student by the
name of Cold Gray, But you can't. These are sick
minds that I don't know how this country addresses that issue. Yeah,

(06:42):
because like you said, you know, Utah lawmakers are doing
everything they can to make our school safe. But I
don't know if you'll ever make them completely safe. Greg,
with as many schools if we've got, and how much
money it would cost to make them air to, I
don't know if you can anymore.

Speaker 2 (06:56):
Well, and there's different there's different threats. I mean, if
you're talking elementary schools and younger or elementary and middle school,
junior high some of those threats, certainly in the elementary
schools are coming from outside the school coming in. When
you get to high school, these threats are coming from
within the student body many times, at least statistically, and
so it's a different type of threat, and how do

(07:17):
you protect against that type of threat in a high
school versus saying an elementary school. It's not the one
size fits all approach. Yeah, that's what makes it hard. Yeah,
And there are all kinds of ideas out there. I
think every one of them are good ideas. But will
they work? Greg, I don't know. I mean, what do
you do? Yeah, it's it's it's probably hard.

Speaker 1 (07:34):
And lawmakers hearing Utah, like you said, are attempting to
do it. But is it the perfect plan? It's not.
There's no perfect plan, I don't think, because this is
going to happen.

Speaker 2 (07:44):
It is. But I'll tell you and I'm not there's
no moral equivalency here. But when you hear Kamala Harris
talk about that, we talked, we spoke yesterday about you know,
seventeen people shot and in Chicago over the weekend, the
weekend three people killed there. Why why not the outrage
on that level of gun violence that's going on. Some

(08:05):
of these inner cities are like war zones, all run
by the same people, cut from the same political cloth.
Mind you, and I never hear that this doesn't have
to be this way. But this doesn't have to continue
that people shouldn't be afraid. Yeah, go talk to the
inner city Chicago, how they ought to feel?

Speaker 1 (08:20):
Well, what was the number we heard yesterday? Seventy two
percent of the crimes now committed in Lower Manhattan are
being committed by illegal aliens? Where's the outrage there? And
the people of New York.

Speaker 2 (08:31):
And those stats aren't easy to come by. They're not
handing those out easily. You have to really dig to
get to that. And so when you see those numbers,
there's a story to be told there that you're not
really hearing, are you.

Speaker 1 (08:41):
That's true, that's true. All right, We've got a lot
to get to today. We'll have more on this to
say a little bit later on in the show. But
let me tell you what, folks, we want to remind you.
Of course, a chance for you to see Tucker Carlson,
Glenn Beck and have dinner with Greg and I this
Saturday night will give you a chance to win a
little bit later on in the show. Matter of fact,
we have two pair of tickets that we'll be giving
you way throughout the show today, So we invite you

(09:02):
to stay with us. Why you're laughing over.

Speaker 2 (09:04):
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I know how how old.

Speaker 1 (09:08):
Especially with what we've added to these tickets. You will you.

Speaker 3 (09:12):
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Speaker 1 (09:13):
Tell you don't go any tickets, don't go anywhere. Great
to be with you. It is the Rod and Greg
Show here on Utah's Talk Radio one oh five nine,
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the Justice Department today told us something that we most
Americans already know. The Russians want to interfere in our
election pride surprise, right, you know.

Speaker 2 (09:35):
I At first it's so vague, you don't know, you know,
because they remember how they said that they caught Russia
hacking into the Trump campaigns. Uh, you know, their their
emails and their system and so you know, and and
there these are enemies of the state. I would chine,
I wouldn't look at any of these as friends or friendly.
So yeah, that that's a real concern. But when Jim
Acosta from CNN is the guy who knows more than

(09:55):
everybody else ahead of time, that's when it starts. That's
when my job, this eye appears, Okay, and sure enough
it looks like it happens to be all the hallmarks,
as once said, of Russian disinformation or collusion or interference
with right of center independent media. So it's it looks

(10:19):
like that's where all of this is coming from. And
none of it is on the left. It's just all
squarely on the side of people that would support Donald
or Donald Trump or Republicans. That's where that's where all
the skullduggery is being found.

Speaker 1 (10:33):
Well, this is this is all Greg you and I know,
this is all just a distraction right now, you know.
And it's a way for them to say, if Donald
Trump wins on November, what is the November fifth, I
think sixty sixty seven days away, the Democrats will one
of the excuses, what well the Russians interfered.

Speaker 2 (10:49):
Well, remember they shut down the Real News, Yeah, the
oldest newspaper in America and deep platform them in October
over the Hunter Biden laptop, which included financial arrangements with
foreign countries with the Big Guy, his then vice president
father and all that. None of that was able to
be disseminated amongst American people. And that is election interference,

(11:11):
whether in hindsight or not. But here we go. I mean,
I just think that that is just of course it's
all from one side, of course, yeah, I mean that's
it wouldn't be uniformly just a chaos theory that you're
trying to mess around with both sides and create unrest.
Now it's just all one side.

Speaker 1 (11:30):
Well, what do they do? I mean, how do they interfere?
Greg I hear this, you know, whether they're interfering? Do
they cook the books, do they mess with the machines,
do they send out disinformation or what?

Speaker 4 (11:40):
What?

Speaker 1 (11:41):
What is the Justice Department saying they're already doing so.

Speaker 2 (11:45):
According to what I'm reading here, this is on x uh.
The the indictments are money that was from Russia was
sent to a media company m HM, that that that
that host Benny Johnson, Timpoole, Dave Rubin, some of these
conservative and independent voices. And it's their money that's been
found to being sent to those media groups. And so

(12:09):
you know, that's how they're they're that's what they're saying.
So I we'll see, we'll see how far this goes.
I again, even throughout the you know what, minimally two
years of President Trump's administration, but more than that, Russia
was all anyone wanted to talk about then. And so
now is I've shown you on the best the betting

(12:29):
lines or showing this this gap starting to grow where
Trump's taking the lead. This comes out and I'm just
you know, I just wish that we didn't have lawfair.
I wish we didn't see the DJ actively indicting and
going after the candidate for president President Trump, because it
does create the suspicion, it creates the cynicism that people

(12:51):
are going to have, and you'd want to you'd want
to hear this information and know that there's something wrong
that's happening that they're trying to correct or stop. But
it's just I don't. I don't have that kind of face.

Speaker 1 (13:01):
So they're alleging today the money from Russia went to
shows like Benny Johnson, Dave Rubin who works for the Blades,
and others. Right, yep, to influence him.

Speaker 2 (13:11):
Yep.

Speaker 1 (13:11):
I haven't checked my bank account. Did you get anne
from Russia? I was wondering, Yeah, money from Russia?

Speaker 2 (13:18):
Yeah? Come on, I mean, if we're going to say
it anyway, why don't you throw it? No, Honestly, it's
an amazing thing that I'm always on the outside of
these grand conspiracies. I'm never part of them. It almost
be worth to be part of it if you could
get all this, all the money they seem to be thrown.

Speaker 1 (13:31):
Around around money, sure, why not get it. I just
think it's a distractionus. A matter of fact, I saw
this story today. There's a columnist and let me see
if I can find where this came from, this little
bit of information that's just surfacing today. A New York
Times columnists published a story today and they're basically David Brooks,
of all people, David Brooks, well known columnists at the

(13:54):
New York Times, detailed the column published today how former
President Trump could win the twenty twenty four election, and
it scares the daylights out of everybody.

Speaker 2 (14:05):
I can't read this whole thing on the air, But
wouldn't it be funny not funny, haha, bit funny sad
if you know the Russian disinformation or the Russian influence
is talking about inflation, talking about the border being open,
talking about rising energy costs rising, And I mean, wouldn't
that be something if those were the things that you
have to now not talk about because they are foreign influence?

Speaker 1 (14:27):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, well. In this column today, Brooks listed
five reasons in ways that Trump could be victorious. One way,
he wrote was if voters chose the red model, which
he wrote, gives you low housing costs, lower taxes, and
business vitality. And if Donald Trump gives that to the
American people, David Burks thinks he will win the race

(14:48):
for the president. No fooling, yeah, no fulling. I mean,
I mean, would you want lower housing cost yes? Would
you like lower taxes yes? Would you like business to
be I mean, you know, just vitality of business right now? Yes?
And if that's what Donald Trump is promising the American people,
what does Kamala have to offer?

Speaker 2 (15:07):
Nothing is more of the same, the same. Yeah, there
are no changes. There is absolutely not one change from
this Biden administration to Harris taking over. It's it's all
more of the same. Whatever you've got, you know, you're
just going to get more of what you've received by now,
there's not there's not a change. If there's an change
in position, it's out of a response in these polls
that we're seeing that a she didn't get a bump

(15:28):
out of the Democrat convention, and now she had a
bad Labor Day weekend. Yes, and the numbers are growing
for Trump, so they are. You know, we'll see, we'll
see how all this pans out. But anyway, I I
just shake my head at this DOJ thing today.

Speaker 1 (15:44):
I just you know, this question, that's all it is.
All right, We've still got a lot to get to.
Two top issues for many voters this year, immigration and
the economy. We'll talk about immigration numbers when we come
back here on the Rod and Greg Show in Utah's
Talk radio one oh five nine. Can all right, let's
talk about more about the election. There's no doubt Greg
that the two key issues here I think for the

(16:06):
American voters that they head to the polls on November
fifth is going to be the economy and is going
to be illegal immigration because, as you pointed out yesterday,
and I think rightfully so, illegal immigration is now starting
to touch every day average Americans. Like we talked about
seventy two percent of the crimes being committed in Lower
Manhattan or being committed by illegal aliens. You had the

(16:29):
story of the young girl who was stabbed in the
arm by an illegal alien. You had another story along
those lines. It's starting to affect every day Americans. You know,
I keep hearing and it's not true that they say.
You know, Republicans they use statistics. You know, you got
to quit talking about the interest rates and the inflation
rate and you need to talk. You need to share
the issues and story form. There are so many There

(16:52):
are plenty of stories. If you saw the Republican National Committee,
you saw or convention, you saw many people get up
average everyday Americans share their story. So this is there
are so many stories that are coming from people that
are apolitical or not. You know, they didn't wake up
siding I'm going to be for a certain candidate, but
their lives have been altered by the bad policies that
they've lived through over the last three and a half.

(17:13):
And joining us on our newsmaker line to talk more
about this is Jim Robb. He is vice president of
Alliances and Activism with Numbers USA. Jim, thanks for joining
us this afternoon. Let's talk about first of all, your
overall assessment of immigration as an issue in this upcoming
campaign and what you see concerns you have If Kamala
Harrison is in fact that I did president of the
United States.

Speaker 4 (17:35):
Well she doesn't seem to be concerned what happens to
the American working people from her policies. So the border
has been a leaky sieve right since she and Biden
have been in. Millions have come in, somewhere between nine
and twelve million. And these people are getting jobs here.

(17:57):
The vast majority of the people who've come in and
are employed already. Now, those jobs didn't spring up from
the ground. The jobs have to be taken from other people.
I don't mean you fire an American and hire a
foreign person. Jobs change over. They turn over all the time.
So I'm afraid that the out of control illegal immigration

(18:18):
is causing great hardship, especially to America's least educated people.

Speaker 2 (18:22):
So, Jim, you had a great comparison where you talked
about maybe states or regions of America where immigrant labor
has supplanted or taken over jobs like housekeeping, and then
you pointed to a state like West Virginia where you're
not seeing that region experiencing that as much. And then
you compared kind of salaries and different things like that.

(18:42):
We just got through Labor Day. I just watched a
rally in Detroit and one in Pittsburgh where the working
class and the labor unions are saying that everything is
great with this with Harris, that they're doing very well.
Where is the disconnect? Do you think these union leaders
are speaking for members of unions or just everyday Americans?
And you know at our working class.

Speaker 4 (19:03):
Well, only six percent of America's private workforce is covered
by a union. So if you're one of the lucky
six percent, you may have it pretty good. I mean,
not all union jobs are highly paid, but a lot
of them are, and there's more security, it is more healthcare,
so maybe those folks do have a better experience of

(19:25):
the economy. But the ninety four percent of privately employed
people who don't have union coverage, well it's a different
story for them. Now, if you don't have a four
year college degree, things get worse because your job, you've
got less job security. Your pay has been flat forever.

(19:47):
In fact, when you look at pay for people who
are have less than a four year college degree over
the last fifty years, after you account for inflation, it's flat.
There's been no raises for fifty years on average for
working people. But college educated people their pace got up, up, up,
So we have this divided economy. The people who have

(20:11):
union coverage or union representation. There's sort of an in
between they've got even if you don't have a college degree,
you kind of get paid like you had one, and
so you know, maybe they do feel more satisfied, although
of course, many many union people are now voting Republicans,
so obviously not everyone's buying that.

Speaker 1 (20:33):
Yeah, yeah, Jim. In light of everything that's gone on
since you know, Biden and Kamala took over the border
back in twenty twenty one, is it fair to say
now that we really do have a free market for
labor in America, even though it is not good for
this country. But exactly one does exist nowadays because of
the policies of this administration.

Speaker 4 (20:56):
Well, it's kind of like a one way free market.
That's the point of my article in Newsweek, right, so
you know, and here's how it works. I decided to
look at one particular job that had a lot of
foreign well mostly foreign people doing it. Now, that's hotel maids. Now,

(21:17):
hotel maids is a is a big profession that there
are millions involved. And in Mexico, a hotel maid earns
two dollars and seventy five cents an hour on average.
And that's about fifty five hundred dollars a year. Pretty low.
Now in America, hotel maid earns on average fifteen dollars

(21:39):
and forty one cents an hour. Well, that's about thirty
two thousand dollars. And that's not fancy money, but it
looks like fancy money to someone coming up from Mexico
doing the exact same job. So, and here's the here's
where it gets crazy. So, on average, Mexican immigrants to America,
legal or illegal, who work on the job, work at

(22:00):
a job here in America, since seventeen percentages back home. Right,
So the seventeen percent of a maid's pay at hotel
maids pay would be about fifty five hundred dollars. So
here's the crazy thing. The hotel maid leaves her work
in Mexico, comes up to America, gets a job, since
seventeen percent of her pay home, and she's sitting back

(22:24):
essentially the same salary she would have been making had
she stayed in Mexico. Plus she's starting on new life here.
Plus she's got free and excellent school, she's got if
she's poor enough, she's got free medical care. She's got
reliable police protection. Who don't ask for brides. I mean,
who wouldn't want to come. It's great that The problem
is it only goes one way. How is an American

(22:47):
supposed to go to Mexico and get a job earning
two dollars in seventy five cents an hour? How much
money can the person send home from that pay to
help grandma back in the States. It's, of course, it's doable.
No one does it. There are only six million Americans
who live elsewhere in the world as opposed to fifty
one million foreign born persons who live in the United

(23:09):
States right now. It's one way, you know, Jim, America
is the end of the line for labor.

Speaker 2 (23:14):
Yeah. I look, I grew up in Pittsburgh and we're
the way I was raised. There's dignity and work and
that is that is what's important. There's there's no errors.
It's just there's it's important to work, work hard. But
I keep hearing and have heard a lot. You know,
there's just jobs that Americans won't do anymore. Do you
do you subscribe to that?

Speaker 4 (23:34):
Well, it's an absurd argument.

Speaker 5 (23:35):
I know.

Speaker 4 (23:36):
People keep saying it. Yeah, but go to a place,
go to a state like West Virginia where there are
only two percent immigrants, and you find that hotel maids
are West Virginians. You find that people on the roofs
doing roofing and construction, they're Americans. You find that people
doing the gardening are Americans because that's who lives there,
and those aren't. There's not like roofs that are un roofed, right,

(23:59):
there's not like houses that have everything but a roof.

Speaker 2 (24:02):
Yeah, imagine that.

Speaker 4 (24:03):
Americans just don't like Americans just won't do roof in
the Yes, Well, it's absurd. Americans did every one of
those jobs. Someone came in who had worked cheaper and
worse working conditions. And you can't outbid someone who's coming
from a starvation wage economy. They're always going to bid
a quarter cheaper than you, right, and they're gonna they
they they don't care if there's work rules enforced. They

(24:27):
know they they don't feel like they're in a position
to bargain. And so it's not me so much blaming them,
it's just this is the way it is. So Americans
are losing out and have lost ho vocations to people
who are coming in who are desperate and will work
for any amount of money. It's not fair to Americans.

Speaker 1 (24:48):
On our newsmaker line, Jim Robb. He is with Numbers
USA talking about the impact of immigration on the job
market here in the US.

Speaker 2 (24:56):
Mary Trump didn't like Donald Trump.

Speaker 1 (25:00):
Everybody.

Speaker 2 (25:00):
I had to talk about that forever. When Carrie Kennedy
went after you know, our junior. Oh, that was all
the rage, all the news. I don't think this big
family reunion with everybody you know, gumbing it up to
the camera saying we don't want our family member to
be the vice president.

Speaker 1 (25:15):
It's something what Thanksgiving dinner will be like.

Speaker 2 (25:19):
We count one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight
eight members of his family.

Speaker 1 (25:23):
All wearing Trump t shirts.

Speaker 2 (25:24):
At they say walls for Nebraska, walls is for Trump. Okay,
this is like there, He's from Nebraska originally, and his
family is all in for Trump and not for their
family member.

Speaker 1 (25:37):
Kind of crazy all about the election. And will take
you to Pennsylvania for a conversation with our special the
elections correspondent in Pennsylvania coming out to stay with US.

Speaker 2 (25:51):
Breaking news for news tonight. I just saw it.

Speaker 3 (25:53):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (25:53):
New York Times sends the story out to the Washington Post.
Liz Cheney has announced that she is going to support
Kamala Harris.

Speaker 2 (26:00):
Did you see this coming? Did you see it? I
am blindsided by this.

Speaker 1 (26:06):
I could swear she was going to vote for Donald.

Speaker 2 (26:08):
I thought so too. She says that he is such
a he's so scary that she's not only not voting
for him, she's voting for Kamala Harrison.

Speaker 1 (26:15):
Yeah. Yeah, that's big breaking news tonight. I don'll be
a shock to all our listeners.

Speaker 2 (26:21):
You know, for how rotten the Democrats were to her dad.
You know, to think that they're just jumping over there.
It's just I don't know, isn't it. It is. It's
just a machine that Washington d C. It's an it's
a uniparty.

Speaker 4 (26:34):
It is.

Speaker 2 (26:35):
It's a It's just a machine. And you got two
parts of it. You got a Democrat machine over here
and a Republican machine over here. Republican machine doesn't like
Trump either. No, I mean, I got an article I
clipped today that said that members of Congress are quietly
saying they hope that he loses. Those members, you know
what they are, They're the machine. They're part of that machine.
They're not the new ones that got elected. Recently. That's
the that's the machine side.

Speaker 1 (26:55):
We're all talk about that a little bit later on
the show today because it's an article written by Jonathan
Martin and political and a lot of and the article
is there are some Republicans who are hoping it would
be better for the GOP if Kamala Harris wins, of course,
because the machine rid of the Trump people and they
can start fresh four years from now. That's what they're all.

Speaker 2 (27:18):
Start fresh, Start, start old, start swampy, start, keep the
swamp alive is what they want to do.

Speaker 1 (27:24):
I want to talk for just a minute about this
story today and the story about Timmy, little Timmy Timmy Walls,
who wants to be the vice President of the United States. Walls, Yeah,
Timmy Walls. Apparently his family doesn't go along with the idea.

Speaker 6 (27:39):
You know, but.

Speaker 2 (27:43):
It's like a grandpa, what happened? Yeah, it's the entire family.
It's a family reunion photo, folks, this is not just
one or two. So you had Carrie cast Kennedy who
ripped on her brother, and then they had all the
other siblings sign it, and all the media just wanted
to run with that how bad it was. And then
you had you know that Mary Trump ripping on that story.

Speaker 1 (28:02):
I mean, he dominated It was like for a couple
of days, she was being interviewed by everybody, as anybody
talked to Timmy's relatives about why they don't like Timmy.

Speaker 2 (28:11):
And then this isn't his brother's not even in this
photo and his brothers he's now trying to walk it back.
He's not walking back his opinion. He just said I
was I was just asked if I had the same
political philosophies as my brother, and I thought I was
just taught communicating to friends that no way I do,
not says, and Facebook just wasn't the right place to

(28:32):
make that statement. And he says, so he goes, but
I still stand by it. I don't. I don't agree
with the thing my brother does politically, so you know,
but anyway, that that's what's the older brother, this whole
family and Nebraska boy, they are they're they're going to
the mat. They're like, no, we cannot have him.

Speaker 1 (28:49):
Where are going along with with uncle or cousin or whatever.
Brother Timmy. It's just not gonna fly for us. There
are more and more there's more and more polling information
than coming out right now. The show's Uh. First of all,
Kamala did not get the bump out of the convention
zero buck that they thought they were predicting. What five
to seven point bump? She didn't get that, and they're

(29:11):
now saying she's starting to lose a little bit of
the mojo. She's gone into debate camp. What are you doing?
Debate camp?

Speaker 2 (29:20):
Yeah, what do you do? She's gonna go She's gonna.

Speaker 1 (29:22):
Going into debate camp to get ready for the debate
next week. By the way, we need to mention we
will be carrying that debate live next week. You're on
talk radio one oh five nine kN rs. So if
you're looking, you know, maybe you're driving around, want to
stay in with the debate, stay tuned to us because
we'll have it for you next week.

Speaker 2 (29:38):
Yeah. Yeah, it'll be a lot of Hey, can we
cut in and like interrupt it and say to and go, hey,
that's that's fiction what she just said or she didn't.

Speaker 1 (29:47):
Nothing stops us. Nothing stops us. We do our own
play by play. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah. I wonder how
Trump will do against her.

Speaker 2 (29:57):
Man. I just hope, like I said, I I love
that they're going to turn the the MIC's off because
that is her. I'm still speaking things she wanted to
be able to say that she's not going to be
able to. But I just think there's so much there.
And by the way, his quips are not bad, they're
actually funny. Okay, he's actually funny. But just he didn't
he didn't in twenty twenty have a strong debate with Biden.

(30:19):
He didn't let Biden talk. And you should just let Biden.
He should have let him do it like he did
in this debate this time in last June. I just
hope that that debate comes out the way I think
it should. He's good, I mean, he is good. He
just has to, you know, pull it in.

Speaker 1 (30:34):
Keep it focused.

Speaker 2 (30:35):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (30:35):
Well, there are a lot of people out there who
are now saying that Trump is back. He's gaining momentum again.
Kamala has lost a little bit of her mojo. As
a matter of fact, even Nate Silver, well, a lot
of people look to is the quote, you know, elections
or projections, Guru, it's tossing out predictions like this. I'm
gonna listen to this Greg from Late the Late is
from Nate Silver. Chance of winning Trump fifty six point

(30:58):
seven percent. That is the highest since July thirty first,
Kamala Harris forty three percent. And in swing states chances
of winning Trump Pennsylvania fifty seven percent. We'll be going
to Pennsylvania here very shortly. Georgia sixty four percent chance
of winning, Arizona Trump sixty seven percent chance of winning.

(31:20):
North Carolina Trump seventy percent chance of winning. So, boy
are they are the odds starting to change?

Speaker 3 (31:27):
Greg?

Speaker 1 (31:27):
I mean, I think the momentum is back behind Trump.
He just needs to keep on rolling. I think if
he has a very very good debate next week, it's
going to be tough for to catch up.

Speaker 2 (31:39):
So you know, I follow this this betting line, right,
you know, it's my think. Yeah, I wondered if this
DOJ press conference where everything Trump is Russian, you know,
disinformation and all that, if it would impact the betting
markets from yesterday today, Trump's up to Kamala is down
to and this is these are real time number. I

(31:59):
just looked just now. The numbers are still fifty fifty three,
forty six, fifty three Trump forty six Kamala. So that
it is, it hasn't really moved the people rate as
part with their dough On who's going to win?

Speaker 3 (32:12):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (32:13):
Well, the thing I find interesting about all of this,
as I mentioned she was in New Hampshire today. Why
is she in New Hampshire? Greg, Yeah, I mean think
about that. I mean I can't tell is she Are
they a little nervous that they may in fact lose
New Hampshire? No, I mean no, Look, what is she doing?
Is she going to camp out overnight to get ready
for a debate?

Speaker 2 (32:33):
Camp Look, it's comfort food. What this is is it's
the same reason she picked Tim Walls. He's so leftist,
it's just comfortable for her. She needs to go to
a place where she hopes people when they see her
on the street wave and don't yell. I mean there's
not a lot of places where she's not going where
there's not some Trump supporters rdy to give her some brief.
I think she's trying to get her head in a

(32:54):
happy place, and so she's trying to find some haven
the happy say yes, because you know, I think that
this is why she clears out the diners. Like when
she went to Primanny Brothers in Pittsburgh, they removed all
the patrons. They brought in van actors to pretend to
be patrons because she didn't trust that if she came
in spontaneously, the people wouldn't be like, what are you

(33:14):
doing in here?

Speaker 3 (33:15):
This?

Speaker 2 (33:15):
This whole place costs more because of you. So I
don't feel like she's she feels very If she's not
comfortable with Dana Bash or anyone from san how is
she comfortable with the general public. She's trying to find
safe havens to practice the debate.

Speaker 1 (33:29):
Have they announced as of yet the moderators for next
week's debate? It's on ABC.

Speaker 2 (33:33):
Who David Muir?

Speaker 1 (33:34):
David Muir, okay, one of her he's one of the
ABC News at night.

Speaker 2 (33:38):
Yeah, they're not going to be Stephan Oppen. I can't
remember who the other one is, but I do remember Muir.
He could be fair.

Speaker 1 (33:47):
Well, well relatively remember Tapper and Bash surprised us a
little bit in the debate, but I had to fixure that.

Speaker 3 (33:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (33:56):
But then but then when she sat down with Kamala,
that was give me a break.

Speaker 2 (34:01):
Yeah. I think they were given the high sign, Hey
it's time to boot this guy, and then they went
after him. And I don't think they'll get that high
sign on this debate.

Speaker 1 (34:08):
By the way, we were talking about underdogs. Steve Krnacky,
who I think does a pretty good job of analyzing
the numbers, over to MSNBC. I can't believe I'm saying
there's something good on MSNBC. But he was talking about
the national polls and the national polls right now. National
And I don't know why we paid so much attention
to nationaleh, because it's not national legs, which is fifty
separate elections that we're paying attention to it we should be.

(34:31):
But the poll shows that Kamala has a little bit
of an edge right now on Donald Trump. Right well,
Karnacky explained to the people on MSNBC, that's right where
Donald Trump likes.

Speaker 5 (34:41):
This is not unfamiliar territory for Donald Trump. Take a
look here at the last two elections twenty twenty, twenty sixteen,
the polling at this point coming out of Labor Day
beginning the fall rush in twenty sixteen, Hillary Clinton laid
on average by five points. Of course, Donald Trump won
in twenty sixteen, and Joe Biden had an even bigger
lead on average Labor Day twenty twenty. Donald Trump didn't

(35:04):
win that election, but certainly in the electoral college, he
came this close to doing so on a So Trump
has run from behind before.

Speaker 1 (35:11):
Certainly. All right, you've been in political races, Greg, do
most politicians kind of like being a little bit behind
going into an election.

Speaker 2 (35:18):
Well, it was always good for me because it cut me.
The only way to beat me was to give a place.

Speaker 1 (35:24):
What does it do for candidate?

Speaker 2 (35:25):
Yeah, you want to you It just keeps your your
your volunteers fired up, It keeps your your everybody everybody
is fighting because they feel like they're losing. And the
saying for those that have been public servants and candidates
is you're losing until you win. Yeah, and you want
that mindset. You want to never stop. And sometimes if
if the polls are saying you've got this maide in
the shade, people take their foot off the gas. Even you're,

(35:48):
like I said, your volunteers or others. And what Trump
wants and what he feeds off of is this, we're
going to go do this. It's everyone against us, it's
the world against us. And that's actually a that's a
good place to be, I think mentally in terms of
the execution of a campaign.

Speaker 1 (36:04):
All Right, coming up on The Rod and Gregg Show,
Vivek Ramoswami takes down CNN wait to hear what he
had to say about the Kamala Harris campaign coming up
right here on The Rod and Gregg Show and Utah's
Talk Radio one oh five nine. K and r Ass
taking center stage today on The Rod and Gregg Show.
Every analyst, every electoral map, you see, it's all coming

(36:25):
down to Pennsylvania. If Donald Trump and Kamala Harris want
to be the president, they're going to have to win Pennsylvania. Well,
in light of the importance of the Keystone Stage, I
bet you didn't know that. I knew it was called
the Keithstone Stead very impressives like that, We have now
brought in a special elections correspondent to give us a
take as to what's going on in Pennsylvany.

Speaker 2 (36:46):
This is the Greg and Rod Show focus group. This
is this is we are on the ground for you.
This is exclusive, exclusive information from our show to you,
our favorite listeners. So let me just put this way.
The Pennsylvania is a big state. There's a lot of places.
You know, you don't have a chance in Philadelphia, Trump,

(37:07):
you just don't have Pennsylvania. Pittsburgh, Southwest Pennsylvania. Oh you
got a chance there, okay, And that is where if
you just get fifty five percent of if by only
Harrisoning gets fifty five percent of the vote there, uh,
Trump probably wins Pennsylvania. So it's a huge, huge place.
So from Pittsburgh, from the north part of Pittsburgh off
of Route eight, from mcti's Discount Beer outlet and mcti's

(37:30):
Flower and Garden Market which has a lot of everyday
Pennsylvanian's coming through. We have my cousin Matti oltmindeh joining
us on the show.

Speaker 1 (37:39):
Cousin Maddie, our special elections correspondent. You're ready to take
on that responsibility, Maddie?

Speaker 2 (37:48):
Are you there?

Speaker 1 (37:49):
We lost your Yeah, you're ready to take on that responsibility, Maddie.

Speaker 3 (37:53):
Yeah, yeah, I'm ready.

Speaker 4 (37:55):
Now.

Speaker 2 (37:56):
You got to know my cousin. I got one cousin,
just one, you know, that's one every and Utah has
like eighty eight. I have one. Well, he is he
knows everything. It's like everybody knows him and he's been
there forever. So when people come and they drive through,
and they when they go to this place, which is
very popular, he gets to talk. They shoot, they shoot
the bull, they get to talk. So, Matt, what are

(38:18):
you hearing from everyday voters? I mean they you know,
beer has no partisan divide, Okay, it's you could be republican, Democrat,
doesn't independent, You can be any it doesn't. Everyone loves
what it is that you have to sell, so you
get a lot of different people. They get to come
through your shop. Can you share with our listeners what
you're hearing on the ground in Pittsburgh, just outside of

(38:40):
Pittsburgh regarding this race.

Speaker 3 (38:43):
Early in the year, we weren't hearing really anything.

Speaker 7 (38:46):
People were just tuning out on purpose to avoid all
the same old, same old. They're like Trump Biden, I
just I don't even want to think about it anymore.
And then we've seen the big shift with all the
different news that's come through the past two months or so,
and people are starting to panic.

Speaker 3 (39:04):
I think they got there. They got there.

Speaker 7 (39:07):
Yeah, they got their school taxes in the mail. They
they started getting their school calendars. They start seeing that
date when all the kids are off because it's election day,
and they see how face it's coming up, and they
started thinking about their money. And yeah, they're getting very vocal.
I think the people that are going to vote for Kamala.
They're quiet, and I asked them, Hey, what do you
think is going on? They're like, oh, I don't even

(39:28):
really want to talk about I'm probably not.

Speaker 3 (39:29):
Even gonna go out and vote.

Speaker 7 (39:31):
And then you get the other people that are going
to go out and vote that are pro Trump, and
they could they'll they'll talk to you until the next
car comes in.

Speaker 1 (39:39):
Yeah, well let their worries.

Speaker 5 (39:42):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (39:43):
Yeah, well it sounds like, Maddie, the the Trump supporters,
would you say they're more vocal this year than say,
back in twenty twenty.

Speaker 7 (39:51):
Yeah, they're like as vocal as they wear back in
twenty sixteen. And that just happened recently where they're starting
to come out and really start talking. I'm just like,
oh God, we got to do something here now like this.
They had no clue that the numbers would be that close.
Right after that botch.

Speaker 3 (40:07):
Debate by Biden. You know what I mean, people are like,
this is in a bag.

Speaker 7 (40:11):
Then Kamala pops in, they start reporting numbers are close,
and now they're like, oh, they're in a panic.

Speaker 3 (40:16):
You know what I mean, we got to do something.

Speaker 2 (40:18):
So so Matt, you you shared with me just as
we were talking, you have small business owners. They come
in and you get to talk to people who are
also running businesses trying to make a living that are
being impacted by this economy. And it seems like that's
a driving issue in your discussions with them being passionate
about voting for Trump, and is it did I am
I reading that right?

Speaker 1 (40:40):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (40:40):
I have a lot of customers that are like that,
and they.

Speaker 7 (40:44):
All the same concern that the cost of doing business
has gone way up. The employees are expected to get
paid more, the quality of the products that they're paying
more for is down. Their customers are complaining about the
quality of food mostly like all my restaurant owners, pizza
shop owners, they're they're there, they're a loss. They don't
really know what to do. And that's what that's where

(41:04):
the Panti's coming from. Is they're like, we think it
could possibly get worse, and we can't really fathom that
as long as they've been in business, like it's worse
than all the other recessions that they've been through and
everything else that they're.

Speaker 3 (41:15):
Like, this could be way worse, Maddie.

Speaker 1 (41:18):
As I mentioned, going in, there's no you know, Kamala
or Trump cannot win the presidency without Pennsylvania. They've got
to win Pennsylvania. Do you get a sense that voters
there in Pennsylvania take a certain amount of pride in
the fact that they could be the ones deciding who's
going to be the next president of the United States.

Speaker 3 (41:36):
Yeah, I think they do.

Speaker 7 (41:38):
They now that they're getting It's funny here because there
are no Trump ads compared to the Kamala Kamala is
totally just taking over every airway. And you're sitting there
listening to radio. You're hearing the.

Speaker 3 (41:52):
Same ad over and over and over again.

Speaker 7 (41:55):
And they're hearing it and they're saying, this person isn't
saying anything at all. The one guy I said to
me today it was funny. I like the comment. He goes,
this is like me saying that I want to be
a CEO of a major company, and all I'm telling
the company is I want to make more money.

Speaker 3 (42:12):
I want to keep the customers we already have.

Speaker 7 (42:15):
I want to bring in new customers, and I want
to spend less to run our business and bring in
more money. And he was like, and that's all you're saying.
You're not going into any detail about how it gets done,
and they're respecting people to believe that, and the roma
is insulted to this point of the messaging that they're getting.
And Trump really isn't running any ads. He's just letting
them take that in. And I think it's worked.

Speaker 2 (42:37):
You know, back in twenty sixteen when Utah, this is
back in the primaries of sixteen in March, and Utah
had Ted Cruz and Donald Trump and Kasik left in
the race, and you and I had that discussion.

Speaker 3 (42:53):
Matt.

Speaker 2 (42:53):
You told me that the customer. You said, I will
tell you Pennsylvania cannot be won by Ted Cruz or
a case, the then governor of Ohio, Ohio. But you
said you were hearing very strongly that if it's Trump,
they're voting for Trump. But if it's not Trump, they're
gonna go They're gonna hold their nose, They're gonna go
with Hillary. It played out in sixteen, he won Pennsylvania.

(43:16):
As we fast forward now we're sitting here in September,
post Labor Day. Are you you were pretty it felt
like you had a pretty good feel of what was
going on back then. Do you have that similar feeling now?
I mean, are you feeling that same momentum that you
felt in sixteen.

Speaker 1 (43:31):
Yeah, it's almost identical.

Speaker 7 (43:33):
And at the time when that was going on too,
Hillary did the same thing that Kamalagist did were they
had a video I.

Speaker 3 (43:39):
Think it was she was at a Baptist church and
she was changing the way.

Speaker 1 (43:42):
She was talking about No.

Speaker 3 (43:46):
People were like, man, how fake is this person? You know?

Speaker 7 (43:48):
So, I don't think the excitement for Trump has gone up,
but the excitement for the Democratic Party has gone down
because of the Canada they have.

Speaker 3 (43:59):
The more that they get to see.

Speaker 1 (44:00):
Her, well that's amazing.

Speaker 3 (44:02):
More they get to see.

Speaker 7 (44:03):
Her speak, the more they hear her ads, the less
excited they are.

Speaker 3 (44:07):
They're just saying they're not going to come out.

Speaker 1 (44:09):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (44:09):
So like some people you said, I'm coming outside against Trump.
People are just like, I don't even want to be involved.
And a lot of people were saying that today as
that news came in the DJ when the Attorney General
was talking about like Arian and Rushie getting involved in
the elections, a.

Speaker 3 (44:23):
Lot of that were just saying, what's what's the point.
I can't even keep tracking what's going on anymore?

Speaker 1 (44:27):
Pretty amazing, Well, cousin, Mattie, we appreciate uh you checking
in with this. You are now our official Pennsylvania election correspondent.
We'll be checking with you over the next several weeks. Thanks, Maddie.

Speaker 3 (44:37):
Yeah, I'm gonna keep talking to people. Thanks for having me.

Speaker 1 (44:39):
All right. He's as good as any correspondent I've ever seen.

Speaker 2 (44:43):
Look, I'm telling you interview what's going on out there.
He really does. And he gets people at their most
candid moments. I mean, they're not they're not, they're not.
They don't have a microphone in front of them, but
they're they're sharing how they feel. I found it interesting
that they're that that it's a chilling She's having a
chilling effect on Democrats. It's not so much that you're
seeing this mushroom cloud. There's a strong Trump sentiment out there,

(45:05):
but you're seeing a lot less excitement for her, which
they thought they would change after they got rid of Biden.
It doesn't sound like it's translating.

Speaker 1 (45:11):
All right, We've got a lot more to come on
the Rod and Greg Show right here on Utah's Talk
Radio one oh five nine k NRS. And I know
you played a bit of the boy George song how
many years ago? Was that eighties eight three. Well, there
is a now parody song out there using boy George
and having a little fun with the Vice president about yourself.

Speaker 2 (45:32):
Sir, how do you found this? I don't know. This
is genius.

Speaker 1 (45:36):
Yeah, I love this. We'll get into this in a
little bit now. You know the interesting thing? And I
brought this up and you kind of went e. But
Jonathan Martin at Politico has a story out today apparently
making a lot of waves. Here's the headline you're writing
for this, it's just don't throw water on this before
you get to it. Well, apparently the headline is the

(46:00):
GOP is actually better off if Kamala Harris wins.

Speaker 2 (46:07):
Did you hear that?

Speaker 1 (46:08):
Yeah, yeah, hear that.

Speaker 2 (46:10):
That was me and every listener at the same time.

Speaker 1 (46:13):
This is an inside the beltwagh story, correct, right, Because
what Jonathan Martin is reporting there are some Republicans who
are quietly saying, we hope Donald Trump loses because if
he loses, it will rid the Republican Party of mega.

Speaker 2 (46:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (46:29):
Well, hey, that's that's what this whole story is based on.

Speaker 2 (46:33):
You know, they had a pretty good cottage industry going
there for a while. They had it, They had it
they were, they were printing the money, they were spending.
They're doing it pretty good. And then you know people
wanted to tip the apple cart a bit, maybe four
and on behalf of the people. And that's a that's
a bad prospect for if you got to if you
got your your system down over there, and they certainly
do so, I can see why they wouldn't want Donald Trump.

(46:55):
But I'll tell you this to me, Kamala Harris is
the exactly who you would want if you're the Democrat machine.
You know, her positions have changed, but really it's what
they want is what she'll be. Yeah, and so I
no matter what she says in a debate, no matter
what she does, what you have seen out of this
administration is exactly what you would get more of if

(47:16):
she stays Yeah. I mean, there's no point in changing
any of it. Yeah, she would be the same exact person. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (47:21):
Now, well here's what Martin says. He writes, Harris is
effectively an emergency nominee. Greg has few policy proposals. Boy
do we know that scant governing history in Washington and
a history of churning through staff. Oh and she would
be the first Democrat to enter the presidency since eighteen
eighty four without majorities in both the chambers. Should the

(47:42):
Republicans flip the Senate. So they're saying, she's not going
to get a whole lot done in four years if
the Republicans controlled the Senate and the House. So they
aren't too worried about that. And he's saying quietly, there
are Republicans inside the Beltway and the power structure that
still exists in a part of the Republican Party that
they if a if Donald Trump is defeated, the MAGA

(48:03):
crowd goes away. That's that's that's just what are he's saying.

Speaker 2 (48:08):
Look, I I've seen some of those bills that came
out of the House last year, the FISA renewal and
some of those spending bills, and so I I I
don't think and I think it's pretty ambitious to think
we're going to hold that narrow margin in the House.
I hope we do. I think we're we certainly look
stronger in the Senate. But I I I just think
I I think that if you if she gets elected,

(48:31):
you're just going to get more of exactly what we've had.
You're going to see you're going to see the higher
taxes because she's already announced that she wants to raise
taxes everywhere, even on unrealized profits she wants to take.

Speaker 1 (48:41):
But it's not going to be as high as Joe
Biden wants on capital games, she's going to cut that
in half. For she's also backing off on EV's Yeah,
and we're talking about that tomorrow. But let's see frackingaun
control regulation goes down or to go up, it goes up.

Speaker 2 (48:58):
Do you think food prices she wants to put price
controls on food? Is that gonna make food go up
or down?

Speaker 1 (49:03):
That'll go up?

Speaker 2 (49:03):
Yeah? Yeah? Four bucks a gallon? Ye just paid, Yeah,
there'll be five. So that's that's kind of what you've got.
But I just think that it would be good for
Donald Trump and the upcoming debate to just really I
wouldn't even give her the the I would not give
her the credit of having a position. I would say

(49:23):
she's really just part of that Democrat machine that's been
doing what they've been up till now, and it's really
she's always defended it until she's needed to say something different.
She's willing to say something different, but you're gonna get
more of the same.

Speaker 1 (49:35):
We'll see all right, more coming up here with Rod
and Greg and Utah's Talk Radi'll want oh five nine
K and R answer. There is controversy surrounding the tart
cherry industry in this state.

Speaker 2 (49:46):
And before you just you know, roll your eyes at
tart cherry's, folks. Turns out Utah's the second largest state
in tart cherry.

Speaker 1 (49:55):
They grow a lot of them down in Senequin.

Speaker 2 (49:57):
I'm telling you that this was I thought I knew
kind of the state of play here in Governor one time.

Speaker 6 (50:02):
You should.

Speaker 2 (50:03):
I thought I knew. But this this is all brand
new news. And of course the Biden Harris administration is
coming down.

Speaker 1 (50:09):
On them cherry. It's unreal, it's actually surreal. We'll talk
with a cherry grower coming up. And yes, boy George
is ready to unleash his Kamala parody song. That's all
coming up. Stay with us. And oh, by the way,
we learned today that we will provide live coverage of
the presidential debate next week.

Speaker 2 (50:30):
Yes, stupid CNN wouldn't let us, but.

Speaker 1 (50:32):
Yeah, it was ABC before. That's right, CNN wouldn't let us,
but ABC because apparently iHeartMedia and twenty four to seven
News is part of the White House pool. Guess what,
we have access to them, so we'll care. I'm still
debating if we shouldn't do play by play.

Speaker 2 (50:49):
I know I'd like to jump in say, folks, that
was just a lie. That was why she just lied.

Speaker 1 (50:55):
We'll get we'll get like a line meter. Yeah, every
time she lies.

Speaker 8 (50:58):
Bang.

Speaker 2 (50:59):
We are checkers.

Speaker 1 (51:00):
Yeah, you know.

Speaker 2 (51:01):
I know that CNN has to hire them and they
have to be uncomfortable with the hosts. They hate what
they have to say. But we we we fact check
every day.

Speaker 1 (51:07):
So that's coming up. What is the next Tuesday, Wednesday?
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (51:11):
Yeah, it's all blurned together together.

Speaker 1 (51:13):
You're right, all right, uh Ramaswami, I'm not. Would you
like to see him have some sort of role in
a Trump administer?

Speaker 2 (51:21):
Absolutely absolutely, because you're a big fan.

Speaker 1 (51:24):
You're a big fan.

Speaker 2 (51:25):
Look, it's the American dream. His parents immigrate over here
to America and and he grows up in some you know,
suburban and suburban Ohio, and he does phenomenal things. And
he was doing phenomenal things before he ever, you know,
ever ran for president. He did well in business and
he wrote Woke Inc. The book really calling out some
of this insane leftist stuff happening to our country. Uh.

(51:47):
And and he's just so articulate and and so I
just think that the way he can describe in frame
issues and his smarts, we'd be lucky to have a
guy like him in charge of draining the swamp.

Speaker 1 (52:00):
Well you were speaking of, of course, the uh the
uh Woke Inc. A book that he wrote. And then
there was some story today. You know, more and more
companies around the country have abandoned their diversity, equity and
inclusion plans, you know, and we saw what trouble that
caused with bud Light. We didn't ask Maddie, bud Light
sales r going. But apparently Molson Cores is the latest

(52:23):
American company to walk away from its diversity initiatives, joining
a growing list of iconic American companies that are thinking
twice about their adoption of all this progressive race and
gender politics.

Speaker 2 (52:35):
Yeah, well, I look at what took them so long.
I mean, as soon as you saw it having a
bud Light, I'd be running for the hell there in
a minute.

Speaker 1 (52:41):
Yeah, yeah, Well, apparently Molson Core has been working since
March to move away from DEI. They're all starting. And
this is the list of companies and colleges and uh
businesses around the country which are just getting away from
DEI is growing by leaps and bounds every day.

Speaker 2 (52:58):
I watched that even in Utah. I know that. Speaking
discussing this with Speaker Mike Schultzer for last session, he said,
our state institutions, we're getting out of this too. And
he's really resolute, and you've seen a lot of.

Speaker 1 (53:10):
States for getting away from this. Well, I want to
go back to Vived because he was on a CNN
today and he basically tore them apart when it.

Speaker 2 (53:19):
Comes to questions about he's never getting booked back.

Speaker 1 (53:23):
He coming back on this. Yeah, well I tell you that.
But let's what he said in defending or in attacking
Kamala Harris.

Speaker 9 (53:33):
You brought up some claims about Kamala Harris. I want
to finish that discussion. She said she didn't favor a
ban on fracking. Now, the reality is she was one
of the strongest proponents of that band, so much so
that when she was in California, she sued the Obama
administration over granting fracking permits. She didn't just favor the
abolition of private health insurance. She was a co sponsor

(53:53):
of the bill with Bernie Sanders as a US Senator
for Medicare for All for Americans. The reality is, when
you think about the New Deal, she was the chief proponent,
not just as a co sponsor of the legislation, but
going further and saying she would end the filibuster in
the Senate to ram that through. So the reality is
she can say what she wants to say. Now those
are actions she has taken. Is someone allowed to evolve?

Speaker 3 (54:16):
Of course they are.

Speaker 9 (54:17):
But she deserves to explain exactly why she's changed those positions,
Exactly what her position is. If it's not a ban
on fracking, what exactly is it? What exactly is her
healthcare plan? If she no longer favors abolishing private health insurance,
which just four short years ago when she ran for president,
she did.

Speaker 8 (54:32):
And that's the kind of scrutiny.

Speaker 3 (54:34):
That's been missing.

Speaker 9 (54:35):
I think Donald Trump has received plenty of scrutiny, and
I give credit to him for sitting for hostile interviews
that Kamala Harris has not.

Speaker 1 (54:41):
Boy I tell you what, greg he sure does lay
out the cages against Kamala Harris. I mean right to
the point. In one minute, he explained what she is
all about. And it's not good.

Speaker 2 (54:51):
Yeah. This isn't just some verbal admission or some you
know hat the tip to being against fracking heavy lifting.
It was work. It was even going after the bye
of the Obama administration, back when she was the Attorney
general in California. So there's a lot of level of
effort on her part to be against fracking and having

(55:13):
a staffer, staff assistant whispered to the media somewhere she's
now for it is not going to be good enough.

Speaker 1 (55:20):
Yeah, well, it's interesting with Kama. Of course, the name Kamala,
her changing of positions. She's obviously been now identified as
a chameleon because you never know where she's going to
come out. Right, Well, we've been waiting for this and
the song with boy George from many many years ago. Well,
there is a new parody. I'm not sure who the
artist is behind this, but there is a new parody

(55:40):
song out there about Kamala the Chameleon. Now we cannot
play the whole thing, it's about five minutes long, but
here's a flavor of this new hit parody. Song about
Kamala the Chameleon. We are all in this.

Speaker 8 (56:03):
Undered in by what has been heard. You say, are
you miss understood or just great?

Speaker 1 (56:12):
Great?

Speaker 8 (56:14):
Keep him in jails. Your prescription that he.

Speaker 10 (56:22):
Doesn't know your uncle West, it's my prediction.

Speaker 8 (56:29):
You came with Joe, You got coming coming camel at Kamalacham.
You came with Joe, You got go. Your mother's always
in there. Your dad is a dance all time. What

(56:50):
you see not putting a crown woman.

Speaker 10 (56:55):
Tell me your salad words every day.

Speaker 8 (57:01):
And the words a telephon for help you stay.

Speaker 5 (57:06):
Them.

Speaker 8 (57:06):
I shall way to the morn. We'll call you. Jake,
come give them a voucher.

Speaker 1 (57:21):
Ten sho go and show do not come coming coming.

Speaker 8 (57:28):
Came with Kamal comy.

Speaker 10 (57:31):
Co cockame with Joe, celebrating covering there was easy to
keep covering on the true Red Riding Blue.

Speaker 8 (57:45):
Lady, Food on Anni Street, Free Space. You're a repato,
You're a wandering come.

Speaker 4 (57:59):
Tempular.

Speaker 1 (58:11):
You know for parody songs. That's why the lyrics in
that song are pretty darn good. He came with Joe,
you gotta go.

Speaker 2 (58:18):
I love that you came with Joe.

Speaker 1 (58:20):
Joe, you gotta go.

Speaker 2 (58:21):
You gotta cribb CRAI cray. I love. Actually that made
me think about when you hear Trump the full communism.
I hope he says that in the debate. I hope
he just says it's gone full communism.

Speaker 1 (58:32):
I Yeah, that's that's pretty good.

Speaker 2 (58:34):
That's a little parody new Avian flu.

Speaker 1 (58:37):
Yeah you like that. Yeah, yeah. He came in with
Joe you gotta go. All right, that's the theme. All right, Mary,
Coming up, we're all talk about Tark Cherry's. They can't
be too sweet apparently, or maybe they're too sweet now,
who knows. We'll talk about that coming up right here
on the Roden, Greg, Joe and Utah's Talk Radio one
oh five nine k n R S. And then of
course next week we will be providing you with live

(59:00):
ridge of the presidential debate. She is did you see
the story today? Can't find the details on it, but
apparently she is bringing over some socialist candidates from Europe?
What to help her with her debate prep?

Speaker 2 (59:15):
Why doesn't she want to not come off as a socialist?

Speaker 1 (59:19):
Isn't that kind of the barely the story is that
they're bringing over some socialist candidates from Europe to help
her prepare for the debate. What you're h about, Well,
I find that.

Speaker 2 (59:33):
Very odd too, you know what, it's just that double
down on what you're doing. I mean, she's not trying
to hide it. I mean they did try to hide
it by chanting USA when you know they they don't, don't, ye,
they're trying to flay had the Camo hats? They were
trying that out for a while. Yeah, but none of
it was authentic. But maybe she just because she is
such a devout socialist did she wants to see if
anyone has a way to describe it, you know, trick us?

Speaker 10 (59:56):
You know?

Speaker 1 (59:56):
Now, you know, the one thing that I've always admired
and I don't admire a lot about this guy is
Bernie Sanders because he'll come straight out and say who
he is and what he believes.

Speaker 4 (01:00:07):
He will.

Speaker 1 (01:00:07):
You have to admire that, yep, because Kama is of
the same milk, but she'll never say it.

Speaker 2 (01:00:13):
Even when he ran for president, does he was? He
wasn't in a general election, so you know, who knows
what he would have sounded like if he ever made
it to a general election, because in a primary, he
was very much Bernie but I would say, Bernie likes
to stab you in the chest, not the back. So uh,
you know, she Kama shows stabby in the back, She'll
she'll whatever you it's where are the people going? So

(01:00:35):
I can lead him there. But what you have to
know at the end of the day is whatever she says,
it is absolutely irrelevant everything that we've lived through, everything
that's been the Biden Harris administration, because we will we
full well know that Biden is not running this country.
Whatever this Democrat machine is that once more regulation, higher taxes,

(01:00:56):
no border, all of this weaker military. That's to run
the show with her. And that's why they don't That's
why she doesn't have to say it. They don't care
about her position. They actually don't want her to mess
it up by trying to even attempt.

Speaker 1 (01:01:09):
To have a position. That's true, that's true. Well, Greg
and I learned something today and I thought he would
know this, being kind of for governor one time. You
didn't know this, did you didn't? Yeah? Utah is number
two in the nation for the volume of tart cherry production,
falling behind only Michigan in this country. I mean we export,
we grow thirty three million pounds of tart cherries every year.

(01:01:32):
I had a lot of cherries.

Speaker 2 (01:01:34):
All I can say is who knew? I didn't know.
Now now the federal government has their crossairs right on
this this industry. The FDA Local Farm has.

Speaker 1 (01:01:43):
Some new proposed sweeping changes that that really could impact
Utah's tart cherry industry. And it's just it's a ridiculous
Apparently you can't add sugar, or if you add sugar,
there's something wrong with But I'm not sure what the
debate is. But joining us on our newsmaker line talk
more about that is Curtis Rally. Curtis is a cherry
farmer with Cherry Hill Farms down there in Santaquin area.

(01:02:06):
He's also chairman of the Cherry Industry Administrative Board. Joining
us on our any hour newsmaker line right now, Curtis,
thanks for joining us tonight. What is going on? I mean,
to me, this is one of the most ridiculous stories
out there, Curtis. But what is going on when it
comes to tart cherryes in the FDA?

Speaker 6 (01:02:21):
Well, the this all come about with the idea of
trying to lower the use of sugar. It's a I mean,
it's a good idea. We probably all take too much sugar,
But at the same time, what is that right level?
I don't know, and there's a lot of people who
want to tell us all what those levels should be.

(01:02:44):
And that's kind of where the ridiculous part is. It
kind of takes away our own agency of what we
want to take in ourselves. As far as the fruit
side of things, the tart cherries, that's what I know.
I don't know a lot about cranberries, but as tart cherries,
we add sugar into our process to help take the

(01:03:06):
tartness so it becomes palatable for people to be able
to actually consume the product. And then when we get
all done, what's really interesting that might be interesting to
you is we did the studies. We looked at what
the sugar could levels were in the product, and we

(01:03:28):
compared it to a whole bunch of other products out there.
And this is where it just kind of gets us.

Speaker 3 (01:03:35):
All on edge.

Speaker 6 (01:03:36):
Is when you look at grapes, they have natural sugar,
and it shows how much sugar goes into grapes that
are called natural and we're actually they've seen the amount
of sugar in a cherry as there is in a grape,
but they still keep feeding grapes to everybody without having

(01:03:57):
any problems. You know, correct, you know it's.

Speaker 3 (01:04:02):
Well.

Speaker 2 (01:04:03):
My question is I was just going to say the
fun the part that is confusing for just a consumer.
I'm not a farmer. I don't know anything about this area.
But you bring a good point up about some naturally
occurring sugars and grapes versus your tart cherries and what
you add to make them more palatable and everything else.
But you're not alone in this. What I found astounding
about the story is while the Food and Drug Administration

(01:04:23):
is trying to pass these new rules that will impact
your industry, the US Department of Agriculture has a completely
different notion of what this is, and they actually identify
the sugar that you add to to help nutrient dense
foods be preserved, the browning and the texture and anyway,
it seems like you've got two competing federal agencies, regulatory agencies,

(01:04:46):
who are looking at this completely different. Am I reading
that wrong?

Speaker 6 (01:04:50):
No, that's exactly right. I don't want to knock on anybody,
but I think this whole sugar thing came about with
the Obama administration and their desire to get healthier in
the schools. And this is one way of let's just
look at sugar and do away with this big picture.

(01:05:14):
And so do you have this well FDA saying we're
going to do this, and you've got USDA the agriculture
side of it, saying no, we have to do it
this way.

Speaker 1 (01:05:24):
And so that's why you're competing.

Speaker 2 (01:05:26):
Churtis. I'm just curious. I think our food are, the
food chain, the food supply is being is under scrutiny nowadays.
People are wondering what's in our food? What kind of
chemicals may you might find in them that you might
not be aware of. How does the rest of the
world or Europe or other places that are not the
United States, how are they regulating tart cherries? I mean,

(01:05:49):
is it is it? Is it similar? Is it different?

Speaker 6 (01:05:54):
You know, we don't explort a whole lot of tart
cherries out of this country, but cherries that go out
sugar isn't discussed at all. It's they're looking more at
the pesticide usages. And if we stay in the rules
and regulations of pesticide usages, they don't look at anything else.

(01:06:17):
Everything just works just fine in those exporting markets.

Speaker 1 (01:06:21):
Yeah, Curtis, If the FDA is allowed to go ahead
with all of this and make these these sweeping changes,
how do you see that impacting your ability to you know,
grow tart cherries and grow cranberries around the country and
know tart cherries here in the state of Utah. How's
that going to impact your operation?

Speaker 6 (01:06:37):
Curtis, Well, it becomes a huge marketing disadvantage, is what
it is, because you can all of a sudden start
sending out negative connotations on anything tarcherries because they use sugar. Well,
and you pointed out earlier, we're the sugar, whether it's

(01:06:59):
added sugar or naturally occurring sugar. Sugar is sugar in
your body. It doesn't care if it's added or natural.
And so everybody who's a raisin is going to love
this because now they don't have to compete against any
of these other markets or products that are putting added

(01:07:19):
sugar in. They can just say, you know what, we
don't have to worry about them. They're out of our
way now, and so it becomes a real marketing issue.
And then you know, over time, we sell a lot
to USDA and into the kids programs, and things like that,
and they're going to be the first ones to have
to stop using our product and so that becomes a

(01:07:42):
real detriment to us.

Speaker 1 (01:07:44):
Curtis, final question for you is this fight just beginning
or is it about over and you're going to have
to deal with these new rules and regulations. Where does
the stand, Curtis, So.

Speaker 6 (01:07:54):
We've been fighting this now for a year and a half.
The first of this started November almost two years two
years ago is when this person came out, and we've
been on an uphill battle and they're making the final
rule pretty quick here, and at that point, I don't
know that we can go backwards. The only way we

(01:08:15):
can go backwards is if we get our representatives really
jumping up and down and screaming for us, because FDA
is really they don't answer to too many people.

Speaker 1 (01:08:29):
You know, it's not the most ridiculous thing in the world,
the FDA saint eh, you tart cherry guys, you aren't.
You aren't doing what you should be doing. And you
know the tart cherry you were? Who was it Margaret
Dayton who just texted you and said, I didn't realize this.

Speaker 2 (01:08:42):
No, she's yeah, she informed me that the cherry is
the official fruit of the state of Utility. Yeah, she
voted for the bill when she was probably when she
was in the House, because when she was in the House,
she was in you know, we're in the arena together.
We served in the arena. Then she went to the
House of Lords.

Speaker 1 (01:08:57):
Why why would a Utah senator even talk to you?

Speaker 2 (01:09:01):
Because they'd be lucky because because they're living, right, that's why.

Speaker 1 (01:09:05):
But you always make fun of them.

Speaker 2 (01:09:07):
Well, it's the House of Lords.

Speaker 1 (01:09:08):
It's it's And Stuart Adams treated us to that fantastic
dinner in Milwaukee.

Speaker 2 (01:09:13):
Yeah, that was You're always making salami wrapped cheese at
us at a.

Speaker 1 (01:09:19):
Store speedway convenience. That wasn't We're hungry, nothing was open.

Speaker 2 (01:09:24):
I was starving. That wasn't very swanky.

Speaker 1 (01:09:26):
The goodness of his heart treated us to a fantastic
dinner at the speedway.

Speaker 3 (01:09:31):
It was.

Speaker 2 (01:09:31):
It was good. But you know, I like individual centers,
but that body is just it's the old and slow.
It's the it's the House of Lords. You know, I've
been on a trip with them. I've traveled overseas. You know,
like these delegations your overseas, they're party animals. No, it
is all I feel like I'm doing is seeing as
much as I can between bathroom breaks. That's we just

(01:09:52):
started the bathroom and then we just hurry up and
see some things before we go back to a bathroom.
That's all you do. If you travel with the Senate,
just on a you're on a tour of bathrooms, they
will where you go, they will never talk to you again.
We'd like to get him on this show, but you
are making I love Margaret Dayton. I loved her as
a senator Bay she was. She was the Margaret Thatcher

(01:10:14):
of the House. Really the praise people said up the legislature,
but I like to say say of the House.

Speaker 1 (01:10:20):
All right, more coming up, Rod and Greg. You're on
Utah's Talk radio one oh five nine k n R
S a new political news I want to share with
you tonight. Greg, just coming across the wires. First fall
Donald Trump. This was several hours ago, but he tweeted
out on AX whatever you call that thing, a picture
of him meeting the entire family of Tim.

Speaker 2 (01:10:38):
Walls, that Nebraska family.

Speaker 1 (01:10:42):
He's that great picture of him. He's right in the
middle of the family. All the families got their Walls
for Trump t shirts on, and he says, just love
these people. They love me and seem to despise Tim Walls,
thank you for the amazing endorsement Walls for Trump.

Speaker 2 (01:10:57):
Just so, every time they want to trot out someone
like a Mary Trump that doesn't like Trump, or someone
that doesn't like Kennedy, who's a Kennedy, why don't you
just bring out the family reunion of the Walls family
that doesn't like him likes Trump.

Speaker 1 (01:11:10):
Yeah. Another story breaking tonight, Harrison Trump story out an
NBC tonight. They have now agreed all the rules are
set for the debate next week.

Speaker 2 (01:11:20):
Well, I thought that was already the case.

Speaker 1 (01:11:22):
No, she was still arguing for the open mics, and
Trump said, no, we're gonna play the rules that we
set during the Biden debate. And they've agreed, so it
will the event September tenth, Philadelphia used the same rules
as the Jewne debate between Donald Trump and Joe Biden. Good.

Speaker 4 (01:11:39):
I like it.

Speaker 2 (01:11:40):
I love the format I did. Hey, I just saw
on X two that you know Frank lens he's the polster, right,
he does a ton of focus groups everything else. I
find this irrelevant. Another day, another no comment on policy
questions from the Kamala Harris champaign. Sure, this is not
a good way to elucidate your position to un decided voters.

(01:12:01):
So they yeah, so they're just still no comment.

Speaker 1 (01:12:06):
Well, and we were talking when we were at the
RNC in Milwaukee back in mid July. It was Mark
Halprin who broke the story about the process that would
take place with Joe Biden resigning from office. Remember that.
Matter of fact, we saw him in the lobby, obviously
working on a story, but he kind of laid out
and he was pretty close Greg, as I recall, as

(01:12:26):
to the steps that would be taken for Joe Biden
to leave office. And you know, he was a day
or two early. He said it would happen on the weekend.
It happened Sunday, but then the real announcement came on Tuesday.
So a little bit. Now he's out tonight with another story.
He's saying there are some Democratic strategist tonight, Greg, who
were saying Kamala Harrison is not going to win Pennsylvania.

Speaker 2 (01:12:48):
Yeah, wow, you know this, That's what I'm saying. I'm seeing,
I'm seeing, I'm seeing those signals, those tellsh we heard
it from our exclusive Rotten Greg Show focus group on
the ground exclusively for our listeners of what's happening on
the ground in Pittsburgh and southwest Pennsylvania, and sounds mightily
similar to what Halpern's saying.

Speaker 1 (01:13:10):
Yeah, well, apparently he did a story today on the
media platform called two Way, and basically he's arguing now
that Harris may not win the essential battleground state of
Pennsylvania and that could cost her the election. We've been
talking about they need Pennsylvania. That's what he is quoted
as saying. I've been asking people two questions in the
state national strategists to the campaigns. One is who is

(01:13:32):
currently head in the race? And where does Pennsylvania rank
in terms of one to seven of the states that
Harris most likely will win? Alpern said during the interview, none,
none of the strategists that Halperton's Halpern spoke to ranked
Pennsylvania as the most likely battle ground state that Harris
will win.

Speaker 2 (01:13:52):
I couldn't agree more. And here's I want to take
an inventory at this moment right now, here's what I love.
We had a debate, the two of us, but we've
talked about this, and it seemed very logical that she
never land on a single issue. Why just make it,
make it, make it joy, make it all those you know,
just platitudes, never never get drilled down on an issue,

(01:14:12):
and maybe the people will never notice, make they won't tell. Well,
I think that that silence is having an accumulative effect
where she's losing ground. It's what Frank Lunch was talking about. Well,
remember you reported that she's walking back her electric vehicle mandate.

Speaker 1 (01:14:27):
Yeah, well that tomorrow.

Speaker 2 (01:14:29):
We tried to talk to her about it. They said, hey,
does that mean they so A reporter asked if that
meant she would veto or sign the bill she co
sponsored in twenty nineteen that had those kind of mandates
for manufacturers. Campaign declined comment. Okay, so they will. They
try to change it, they try to shift a position. No, no, no,
I'm not for ev mandates. Okay, tell us what that means,

(01:14:50):
no comment. Yeah, oh yeah, that's gonna I really do
think because these issues aren't cerebral, they're not they're not
luxury issues. They are kitchen table issues. I think she's
not going to get away with this. I think she's
gonna have to be specific, and I don't think she
can be.

Speaker 1 (01:15:06):
Yeah, well, I think the media has a responsibility here, Greg,
And I don't know if they're going to hold up
their responsibility because they need to start asking those questions again. Today.
Here's another change. You know, Joe Biden wants a forty
four percent tax on capitol games. In trying to distance
herself today, she said, oh, we'll work with half of that,
all right, So she attacked increase. Yeah, yeah, it's still

(01:15:28):
a tax increase. You're right, it'd be about twenty four
percent tax increase. So this flip flopping sooner or later,
it's got to catch up to her.

Speaker 3 (01:15:37):
It does.

Speaker 2 (01:15:38):
And I was of the opinion I still am that
she has such a frail count of voters that support her.
She can't afford to lose any alienate any of them.
So if she alienates any of them, just like was
said by by Matt my cousin, it doesn't make them
vote for Trump. It makes them not want to go
out to vote. They just don't. They're just not excited.

(01:15:59):
It takes away the motivation. And so you have the
pro terrorist Thomas crowd. She can't offend. You got the
pro Israel side. She can't offend. You get the she
has nowhere to go. She cannot get specific because she's
going to alienate some of this base that is not
even strong enough to win, I don't think right now.
But what highlights that is that she can't afford to

(01:16:21):
really take a position well, and.

Speaker 1 (01:16:22):
The coalition that god Joe Biden into office. She has
not gained back the Latino men, she is not gatting
back the black man. She has not gained back some
of that coalition, which she needs to win, and right
now Trump is holding on to him.

Speaker 2 (01:16:36):
Yeah, you're even seeing not since Eisenhower has a Republican
candidate for president received as much of the minority vote
in the past, and you're seeing those numbers, I think
are even growing in this election, as you know, as
you look at the polls.

Speaker 1 (01:16:48):
More coming up on the Roden greg Show in Utah's
Talk Radio one oh five nine gann are at. We
will be back tomorrow and we need to mention as well.
On Friday, we'reth the Greek Fest.

Speaker 2 (01:16:57):
Oh live all that good food, food, music, fun, fun, and.

Speaker 1 (01:17:02):
We'll be there. Oh that's coming up on Friday until
we invite you to join us. Friday as we broadcast
live from the Greek Festival in downtown Salt Lake City,
a tradition, kind of the end of summer event, I think, right.

Speaker 2 (01:17:17):
Yep, at the Greek Festival Friday, we're going to be
with our friends at the Huckleberry Grill and then to
the touch of Carlson and going back concert Saturday.

Speaker 1 (01:17:25):
Busy coming, all right. Thanks head up, Childerns back. May
God bless you and your family in this great country
of ours. Thanks for joining us tonight. We're back tomorrow
and forward. We'll talk to you event

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