The Rod and Greg Show: Footlong Felony in D.C.; California Residents Bailing in Record Numbers

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
We've got our friend Stephen Moore, who's you know, he's
come back home. You know you got was it the
White House and uses this week ago president a week ago,
But he's with us today.

Speaker 2 (00:08):
This is our John Solomon is also joining it a
little bit later. Yet more revelations coming out about the
Russian hopes, and now we got we have the involvement
of Hillary Rodham Clinton in all of this.

Speaker 1 (00:20):
If you thought the emails, that was like the thing
we were all talking about back in sixteen, but there
was always an underlying discussion about the Clinton Foundation. Well,
John Solomon this morning broke uh more information about that. Yeah,
more incriminating information about that, and you got to anyway,
we're pretty lucky to have John Solomon on our program.
I think the guy only does nationally syndicated programs for

(00:40):
just the News. He's I think he's one of the
last investigative journalists, real ones out there. So it'll be
fun to have him on the program.

Speaker 2 (00:47):
Yeah, we'll talk to John about the latest revelation which
is just coming out today and one earlier this week
in which Adam Schiff was involved in assumption and again,
so we'll get into that as well. So We've got
a lot to get to today, and as always, we
invite you to be a part of the program. Eight
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So a lot to get to today, and let's get
right to it. I think the story of the day.

Speaker 1 (01:28):
I actually don't know what you're gonna say next, because
there's a there's it's a cornucopia story today.

Speaker 2 (01:32):
My opinion, what is the story of the day. The
story of the day is the guy who threw a
sub at a police officer in Washington, d C.

Speaker 1 (01:38):
The subway sandwich assault.

Speaker 2 (01:40):
The assault. Now they've come up with names for the
guy so far. I've heard too, the HOGI hustler okay, okay,
and the subway slinger.

Speaker 1 (01:51):
Subway slingers come up.

Speaker 2 (01:54):
We gotta go to our audio. We need a name
for this guy.

Speaker 1 (01:57):
I know we do.

Speaker 2 (01:58):
By the way, he's been identified. It has been fired
as he should.

Speaker 1 (02:01):
He said, he works for this story. I saw this.
I actually saw it before I knew who the person was.
I saw him screaming his lungs out inches from the
you know, the federal law enforcement officer's face. Uh, just
screaming and screaming and finally taking his subway sandwich and
a very close range, just throwing it, throw it, and
then he turns around and books it starts running. They

(02:22):
I don't know if he thought they were gonna chase him,
but they did and they got him. I thought that
by itself, I commented that. You know, last time I checked,
you can't scream your lungs out at members of law enforcement,
federal or local. And you certainly can't throw things at him.
I don't care if you threw a pillow at him.
You can't throw things at members of law forces.

Speaker 2 (02:40):
At least.

Speaker 1 (02:41):
I don't think they take it well. I think they
have a way to react. It's not gonna go well.
What was in this guy's mind? Then I find out
today he is a he's part he's an employee or
was of the Department of Justice and an attorney, an
officer of the Court representing the United States of America
in cases four and on behalf of our country. That man,
of all people, knew exactly what he was doing was

(03:02):
illegal and did it anyway, And therein lies the deep state.
In my mind, it's an unbelievable story.

Speaker 2 (03:08):
Now, the real issue here today is that we had
heard earlier and not sure if this officially yet, but
he is going to be charged with a felony. Yes, Now,
he threw a subway sandwich at a police officer, all right,
Is that to the level that you would be charged
with a felony?

Speaker 1 (03:22):
Yes, I think it's a no brainer because you're talking
I think one of the reasons is you're talking about
a federal law enforcement member. So that's the their jurisdiction
is federally, and they're the way he's the one you're
doing that too. But but like I said, if you
threw a pillow in their chester or face from that range,
you would be you would be arrested for that, and

(03:42):
I think that you would be charged appropriately, and I
think they would put a federal charge on that. But
given his position as a DOJ attorney, as a Department
of Justice attorney, I think that that is that the
weight even goes more towards a felony because he should
have known better, more so than the average citizen. If
you gave me a younger person who's been watching all

(04:04):
the nonsense in the circus and the chaos where people
throw things, he might be some young person might be
under the misunderstanding that you're allowed to do that. This guy,
of all people, knew well that you're not. That's not legal.

Speaker 2 (04:16):
Yeah, yeah, well. He's been identified as thirty seven year
old Charles Sean Dunn, who worked for the Department of Justice.
A police affi David on the on the incident says
a Dun told the officer or he was jumping up
to if you haven't seen the video yet, go look
for it. But he was jumping up and down in
front of a group of police officers and looked at

(04:38):
one and started dropping the f bombs. If you you're
a fascist, why are you here? I don't want you
in my city. And then apparently he just took a sandwich,
what you know, I don't know how much you pay
for a sandwich anymore, but they aren't cheap and threw
it at one of the officers and then he took off.
Now there are cops everywhere right now in Washington, d C.

(05:02):
And you know, you know Greg because you work with
the Sheriff's office. There's a family there. They bond together,
and when someone attacks one of them, he's attacking all
of them and they all took off running after him,
and they caught him.

Speaker 1 (05:15):
Yeah, you had two of them that were right behind him.
High talent, it right behind him. Then you could hear
the sirens. You had people in the cars coming up
on the other side. He wasn't going to get far. Yeah,
and he shouldn't get far. That's it is. It's I
think Trump said this a little while ago when he
saw the violence against the members of the of ICE
as well as a National Guard in Los Angeles, that
if you spit, we hit.

Speaker 2 (05:36):
Yeah, you nobody hit.

Speaker 1 (05:37):
Nobody hit. But they were going to hold him accountable
for his behavior. And I think that's what has to
happen more or you're going to get more of the
clown show that this guy tried to pull off last night.

Speaker 2 (05:46):
Well, listen to what Janine Piro, who's the new law
enforcement boss there in the nation's capital, had to say
about this incident. She posted it online, and.

Speaker 3 (05:54):
The President's message to the criminals was, if you spit,
we hit. Well, we didn't quite do that the other
night when an individual went up to one of the
federal law enforcement officers and started jumping up and down,
screaming at him, berating him, yelling at him, and then
he took a subway sandwich about this big and took

(06:16):
it and threw it at the officer.

Speaker 2 (06:19):
He thought it was funny.

Speaker 3 (06:20):
Well, he doesn't think it's funny today because we charged
it with a felony assault on a police officer and
we're going to back the police to the hilt. So there,
stick your subway sandwich somewhere around.

Speaker 2 (06:33):
I'd like her. I think she's a lot of now.
Era asked a very good question. Was it a six
inch or a foot long?

Speaker 1 (06:39):
I think I think it's a foot long. I've seen
I've watched the video. I've actually seen two videos of
this now from different angles. I do think this was
a twelve inch sub Yeah, it's very expensive to be
hurling at someone like that. What is it about subway?

Speaker 4 (06:53):
You know?

Speaker 1 (06:53):
Jesse Smolet was coming out of a subway at like
one am. He was coming out of a subway place
at one am or two am in Chicago with where
it was like four degrees outside, and then tried to
stage his own attack where he said Maga was roaming
the streets of downtown Chicago near where he was getting
a subway sandwich looking for him or something and found
out all that wasn't true, but subway was in. It

(07:15):
was a foundational part of his story. And now we
have the subway sandwich being a part of this story.

Speaker 2 (07:22):
Here my prediction, you watch subway sandwich tossing will become
part of the protest in the Nation's capital. I you
know it will be at their own demise, at their
own demise.

Speaker 1 (07:33):
Go ahead and try, but it's not you you started
hurling those first off, as he pointed out that sandwich
isn't cheap. You want to go get expensive things.

Speaker 2 (07:41):
To throw about fourteen nouadates. They're a lot, probably more
than that in the Nation's capital.

Speaker 1 (07:47):
They're expensive. And I'm telling you that if they people
do it, they're gonna I think you'll get the more
you'll get a consistency of enforcement of the law, which
you should. And I still can't get over the fact
this guy was an attorney for the Department of Justice.
I supposed to represent this administration, this the the Department,
but really it's taking on cases in court four and

(08:08):
on behalf of the United States. That man knows exactly
what he's he of all people, and it just shows
you a window into his soul. They in Washington that
work in the Deep State, these laws never apply to them.
They can charge people, they can go after them.

Speaker 2 (08:22):
It will.

Speaker 1 (08:23):
They think they are above all of it.

Speaker 2 (08:25):
Well, I want you to listen to the sounds of
the protests last night in the nation's capitol where they
set up a checkpoint I think it was around fourteenth Street, Okay,
and protesters gathered and told people to stay away.

Speaker 5 (08:43):
You're trying to arrest it in people, what's your preference,
what's your.

Speaker 1 (08:47):
Goal, what's the motive? Why want you to show your.

Speaker 2 (08:51):
Brave Mike like you look her up with the mirror.

Speaker 6 (08:54):
I think I did a.

Speaker 3 (08:55):
Good job today.

Speaker 2 (09:02):
Now those are street poster protesters yelling at the checkpoint.
Greg and then some went down the street and we're
telling people to turn left earlier so they wouldn't have
to go through the checkpoint. That's what's going on now.
The interesting part of this Okay, real quick. The interesting
part of this, the you know, Washington, d C. For
the most part, is a heavily black community. Would you

(09:23):
say that. I mean, you can see that there wasn't
one black protester in that crowd last night. You know,
I wonder how many of them were paid.

Speaker 1 (09:31):
Yeah, it might have been a rent of protester. Because
I'll tell you this. I had a clip and I
had it yesterday too, where someone a reporter and I'm
sure it's probably from a conservative online news you know group,
But she was asking what do you what's your opinion
about But she wasn't I mean, she wasn't trying to
bias the question what's your opinion of Trump? You know,

(09:52):
getting involved, And she was actually appreciative of it. And
she said a lot of people go and she goes,
where can I meet more people like you? I can
eating the politician and the people that want to say
that it's fine. Where can I go to talk to
have a conversation like we're having. And she gave her
the poorer parts of the city where you might get
some really uh you know, I think candid answers. But

(10:12):
she was saying that no, this has been so bad
for so long with any help, we appreciate it. And
she works down there. She grew up in DC area.
But anyway, I do think that when the areas that
are the worst are not all you know, they're not
all the high rent district, so to speak. And so
and I think what's weird, Rod, is that what ninety

(10:33):
four percent are pulling that there's that they have a
crime problem. But then you had some large percentage that
didn't want Trump to do it.

Speaker 2 (10:39):
Help it's Trump, because it's Trump. That's it, all right.
When we come back, you see him on Fox News,
you hear them on a lot of the syndicated shows,
and you'll hear them on this show. Coming up next
we'll talk about we'll talk to John Solomon. That's next
right here on Utah's Talk Radio one oh five nine
kN RS. I tell you what John Solomon, who was
a reporter at one time for the Washington Post. I
also think he worked also think he worked for the

(11:01):
Wall Street Journal. I got sick and tired of the
Washington Post, decided to set up his own thing. And
he's created this website called Just the News, and it's
been around for several years now. And he has been
doing a lot of great work in this past week
as more and more of this documentation is being released
as to the Russian hoaes and what went on.

Speaker 1 (11:19):
Greg he has he has been one of the investigative
journalists that have been really leading uncovering the things that
others haven't done, and we haven't seen investigative journalism do
in a long long time. We got to meet him
at the National Convention. Yeah, we did been able to
unlucky enough to be able to get him on the program.
So I think he teased that on Glenn Beck's show

(11:40):
yesterday that there was a major announcement coming out this morning,
and it came out, so.

Speaker 2 (11:44):
Yeah, and it was, and John's joining us on our
newsmaker line. John, thanks for joining us, great work. A
new name has surfaced, Hillary Rodham Clinton.

Speaker 7 (11:53):
Yeah. Let's go back to the summer of twenty sixteen
when we knew Hillary Clinton was dealing with a classified
email scandal her private server and the misuse of classified
emails on that server. But it turns out she was
facing an even more serious criminal threat. It turns out
the FBI had three, not one, but three criminal investigations predicated,

(12:14):
meaning they had bonified evidence into whether she was engaged
in a pay to play screen as Secretary of State,
trading favors in decisions in the government for large donations
to foreign donors or from foreign donors to her family foundation,
the Clinton Foundation. And what we're learning is that Donald
Trump was out there saying lock her up, remember the

(12:36):
chant locker up on the campaign trail. It turns out
the FBI actually was starting to develop the evidence that
might have led to that, except for one thing. They
ran into a steel curtain. The steel curtain was the
Obama Justice Department, which yelled back at the agents quote
shut it down. They were ordered to shut these investigations down.
They were thwarted at every step in the twenty sixteen election.

(13:00):
And we know this because the FBI committed it all
to paper. They created a timeline identifiing each political hurdle,
each obstruction, each order to stand down in the face
of criminal evidence and not pursue it. The top people
that were putting the roadblocks in the way where the
Deputy Attorney General for Barack Obama, Sallyates, and the deputy

(13:22):
FBI director under James Comy, and those two together when
they were working together basically everything came to a halt.
They would go to prosecutor's office saying, we need your help.
This is what FBI agent does every day. We need
your help. We want to get their grand jury and
start beginning. Sorry, you're on your own. We won't help you.

(13:43):
They were everywhere they went, they were turned down. It
was a complete stone mall. And today, with that new
document just found by the new FBI director Cash Bettel,
there are now pretty serious questions about whether this rises
to the level of obstruction of justice.

Speaker 2 (13:58):
Yeah, sure it does.

Speaker 1 (14:00):
John, So I got to tell you you were just
on the front. You're on the cutting edge of when
these documents being declassified, knowing what to look for. You
teased this yesterday the big news was coming this morning.
Here's my question. I thank you for all that you're doing.
My challenge is staying in front of it. There is
so much transparency and declassification of documents, and this web

(14:24):
is so complicated. Can you share with our listeners what
should we keep front of mind? What should we be
staring at because there's just so much and I like it.
I'm not complaining, but you know, I know John Solomon knows,
so tell us what we should be watching for right now.

Speaker 7 (14:40):
I think what we need to do for the American
public is boil this down to a simple elevator speech
or bar talk explanation what really happened at the end
of the day. What we're now beginning to prove is
that the extraordinary resources of the FBI and the US
intelligence community we're turned against the American people to carry

(15:02):
out a political dirty trick for Hillary Clinton. The goal
of that trick was to erase legal liabilities for Democrats
people like Hillary Clinton, Hunter Biden, Joe Biden by thwarting
investigations and then projecting some form of fake scandal or
overstated scandal against Donald Trump and his followers. And it

(15:25):
basically is a wash Rinse Pete, wash rints repeat cycle.
Hillary Clinton has a foundation corruption problem and a email problem.
We're going to create a fake rush of scandal for
Donald Trump when I'm under criminal investigation. Hunter Biden has
a Ukraine corruption problem, with Joe Biden in a tax
problem too, We're going to create Ukraine impeachment hunt. Do

(15:47):
we find Joe Biden finds classified documents in his garage
in his old U Penn office, We're going to rate
Donald Trump and find classified documents there and charge him
first the same cycle of obstructing criminal investigation of Democrats
and then creating a fake process like fake punishment for
the Republicans, and in so doing, the potential crimes are

(16:09):
obstruction of justice. That's the easy part on protecting Democrats.
On the Republican side, it is the violation of civil
rights under the color of authority. They use the government
to put people through processes that violated their rights. People
who were spied on by the Fiser court, Donald Trump
forced to defend himself in court. And what you'll basically

(16:32):
be seeing the laws used at the very laws that
were used against off police officers in the fifties and
sixties during the racism and Jim Cow era. They're going
to be turned around. They're going to be applied against
the Feds. The Obama Feds, Obama intelligence officers are going
to be accused of depriving people of their civil liberties
under the color of law. That's what we've now uncovered,

(16:53):
and that's every one of these stories fits somewhere into
that conspiracy to violate Republicans or conservatives civil liberties to
protect democrats.

Speaker 2 (17:03):
John another name popped up this week and you're reporting,
and that's our good friend Adam Schiff and what he
did on the leaking of documents. Give us a background
on that, John, what these documents are telling us about
good old Adam Schiff.

Speaker 7 (17:16):
So, Adam Schiffs been on our radar for a few
months now. It was last October that we wrote the
story that race that showed that he was claiming two
houses as his principal mortgage at the same time, which
violates mortgage all. We had FBI agents saying that's a violation.
That caught the attention of the regulators at Fannie May
and the Federal Housing Finance Administration. They agreed with our

(17:40):
story and they have now referred in for criminal prosecution
at the Justice Department. And while that was playing out
over the last couple of weeks, we obtained a set
of documents that show that a whistleblower, a Democrat staffer
on the House Intelligence Committee where Adam Schiff was serving
back during Russia Gate, came forward not once, not twice,
not three times, but four times to the FBI between

(18:02):
twenty seventeen and twenty twenty three, according to this summary
memo to report that Adam Scheff had instructed his staffers,
the whistleblower included, to leak classified information to dirty up
Donald Trump on Russia Gate, and the staffer says he
was told, don't worry, you won't get caught. You won't
get prosecuted for violating the law, because Adam Schiff will

(18:24):
simply claim you're protected by the Speech and Debate clause,
the independent the separation of powers clause in the Constitution.
And this officer was this intelligence staffer who was a
career US intelligence officers, so trained in how to protect
our national secrets. He believed that this information, that what
he had witnessed was criminal, that's his word, or excuse me, illegal,

(18:48):
unethical in treasons. Those are the three words he told
the FBI of what he witnessed. The FBI was not
allowed to pursue that any further. The Obamba Justice Department
and the Trump Justice Department, Trump one not Trump two,
decided not to pursue it any further, and it died,
even though we now know national secrets may have been
compromised by what happened there.

Speaker 2 (19:09):
From just the news. John Solomon with more information on
the Russian hopes, all right, more coming up on The
Rodden Greg Show and Talk Radio one oh five nine
k nrs.

Speaker 1 (19:18):
Why by California, last one out turned the lights off?
You know, be nice, just save us some electricity.

Speaker 2 (19:24):
I mean, it's a it's a big state. But into
the last year, nearly seven hundred thousand people have left
that state.

Speaker 1 (19:32):
Hey, yeah, that's you know, first date like Utah where
we've seen those the growth numbers that are going to complete.
Opposite way, that's that's almost dizzying to think that many
people are fleeing at any given state.

Speaker 2 (19:43):
Well, let's talk more about. Joining us on our any
hour newsmaker line right now is Larry sand We've had
Larry on the show before. Great guy. He's the president
of the California Teacher's Empowerment Network. Larry, how are you,
and welcome to the Rodd and Greg Show. Thanks for
joining us, Larry.

Speaker 8 (19:57):
Thank you, Rodin Greg. Yeah, I'm fine. How are you?

Speaker 2 (20:00):
We're doing well. Seven hundred thousand people in one year
have left that state. Larry, what do you make of
all this?

Speaker 8 (20:08):
Well, obviously there's a reason for it, or there are reasons,
I should say. And then this state is I mean,
it's beautiful, the oceans are beautiful, The mountains are beautiful,
the weather's beautiful, but the political atmosphere and the schools
are somewhat less than beautiful. And people are leaving, and

(20:29):
it's people of all ages. Most I know so many
people who have left. I mean, I'm an older person,
so I'm not going to go anywhere. But most of
the people I know are conservatives, and this state has
got a liberal super majority and they're just screwing it up.
And the other way to.

Speaker 1 (20:47):
Put it, you know, I spend a little bit of
time in San Diego, and one of the things that
shocked me is on an issue that I thought the
left would at least be united on, and that's the
environment or good stewardship of the earth. We've got to
tea y Wanna River that's been spewing out raw sewage
and getting so polluted that it's going up north. It's
actually taken the Navy seals and they're training on Coronado

(21:09):
Island off out of that area. You can't they shut
down those beaches for extended periods of time, and really
throughout the Biden administration, we saw no real positive work
towards mitigating that problem. Does that is that something that
should like transcend our politics and just make it unlivable.

(21:30):
If you can't even get into the beach in the
area that you.

Speaker 8 (21:33):
Live, Yeah, you would think.

Speaker 3 (21:35):
So.

Speaker 8 (21:36):
I'm not really familiar with the problem as you describe it,
but yeah, I mean that's typical of what's going on.
There are just so many things wrong. I mean, I
was talking about the politics, but I mean the businesses
are leaving. Is Chevron, SpaceX, Charles schwabeball left California, And
as I wrote, the four hundred and forty one business
of left the state since twenty eighteen, and that has

(22:01):
probably grown since we started the conversation because it's just
on and on and on. It's a continuing problem.

Speaker 2 (22:08):
Larry. One of your focuses, of course, is on education.
What impact is this having on schools?

Speaker 8 (22:15):
Well, the California Policy Center points out that forty five
out of California's fifty eight counties have experienced a decline
over the last decade, and over the last ten years,
the state wide enrollment has decreased by more than six
hundred and twelve thousand, But as they add, it increased

(22:36):
because they started to trading a pre K pre kindergarten
or transitional kindergarten or whatever fancy names are giving for that.
I mean, if you take that increase into account, then
more than seven hundred and sixty two thousand have left
in the last ten years. I should say, seven hundred

(22:56):
and sixty two thousand fewer students in the schools. And
part of the reason is because people are leaving the state,
people are having fewer children, and that more people are homeschooling,
and more people are sadding the kids to private school.
If they never had a school choice program here, which
they probably never will, that number would decrease even more radically.

Speaker 1 (23:18):
So you know, first time, I think in California state
history in twenty twenty, you saw there was a decrease
in their population. They had been a growing state up
until that point. You've noted that they've there's a great
exodus going on right now? Does that ever reverse? Does
Is there anything there that would get people to stay
and not leave and maybe even people be drawn to

(23:39):
the state of California Or is this a trend we're
going to see for a generation or two.

Speaker 8 (23:45):
That's a great question, and I have no answer for it. Obviously,
I would think it would reverse, if the state starts
to do things more sanely and stop the laws and
stop the policies that foisting on people, which is causing
people to leave. And you know, people are going to
more going to freer states like Arizona and especially Texas

(24:09):
which have much saner a government. So I don't see
anything happening in the near future because so many people
leaving conservatives, So the liberals are just going to keep
voting for lefties in office. And I you know, I mean,
I'm seventy seven years old. As they said earlier, I'm
not going to go anywhere, so yeah, and you know,

(24:29):
I won't be around forever. So you know, we old
are not going to be here forever. So it's going
to be even fewer people in the near and probably
long term future. That's what I would predict.

Speaker 2 (24:41):
Well, hang in there, Larry, it's a great state. Just
hang in there. Thanks Larry, Okay, thank you all right
on our newsmaker line, Larry sand President California Teacher Empowerment
Network here on Utah's Talk Radio one oh five nine
can Orus. One other story that is somewhat related to this. Greg.
We talked the other day with Victor Jakes. He is

(25:02):
a columnist with the Las Vegas Review down in Vegas,
of course, and we asked him about Vegas. It is struggling,
And I see this story today for closures have rocketed
in Las Vegas really because of the tourist slump. In
Clark County, two hundred default notices were filed in just
June alone. That's an increase of thirty two percent over

(25:23):
the last month. Homeowners they can't afford to live there. Well,
you you brought up something that someone sent you a
note that what is it a cocktail in Las vegass
forty bucks for a cocktail.

Speaker 1 (25:33):
They are just I mean, they have gone. They've jumped
the shark on the on the prices of things. They've
made it so that that that I promise you, Las
Vegas is no barometer on whether there's a recession coming
or not. They have that Sea has priced itself out
out of the everyday Americans budget. They can't they can't
do it. I don't know what who they're trying to

(25:53):
appeal to. But the prices there are shocking for food,
for parking, for you name it. It's beyond anyone's budget.

Speaker 2 (26:01):
Well, they've catered to the rich and famous, and obviously
the rich and famous right now aren't spending a whole
lot of money and it's really having an impact.

Speaker 1 (26:08):
You know what, I guess too, I'll bet I'll bet
you anything, Rode that a lot of those homes that
were purchased were done for airbnbs or rbos where they thought, oh,
we'll have a lot of people that want to rent
these as an investment property. That's that's not going to
happen when when Vegas is no longer an attractive place
to you know, to vacation.

Speaker 2 (26:24):
Yeah, that's for sure. All right, We've got a whole
lot more to come your way as you work your
way home. On this Thursday afternoon, the Rod and Greg
Show on Talk Radio one oh five nine k NRS.
I want to hear from the listeners tonight about the
subway slinger.

Speaker 1 (26:38):
Yes, what do you think of this guy?

Speaker 2 (26:40):
You know, well, you know, uh, Jandeine Piero said they're
going to charge him with a felony if he hasn't
already been charged and is throwing a subway sandwich at
a police officer a felonious offense.

Speaker 1 (26:55):
I mean we're talking cold cuts, Yeah, you know, we're
talking about long.

Speaker 2 (27:00):
We're talking let us singe one made a difference.

Speaker 1 (27:03):
Would you get a reduced sentence for a six inch
sub versus a twelve inch sub It's you know, these
are the questions that weigh on our minds.

Speaker 2 (27:11):
Yeah, this is the number one question in the country
right now.

Speaker 1 (27:13):
I think this guy deserves I know, every every consequence
that the law contemplates for violating it.

Speaker 4 (27:22):
I am.

Speaker 1 (27:22):
I am.

Speaker 2 (27:23):
A debate on this, you'll win.

Speaker 1 (27:25):
You always do if you you don't want to be
on the wrong side of this one.

Speaker 2 (27:29):
This guy does this. Of all people, you deserve a felony.

Speaker 1 (27:33):
He is. He works for the Department of Justice.

Speaker 2 (27:36):
He is an attall he worked for. Does that matter?
It does?

Speaker 1 (27:39):
His knowledge of the law, him trying people, I mean,
you know, they don't go there to help, They go
there to hold people accountable to the law, the federal law.
He knows the law. He knows the law better than
most people that are walking around that night, and he's
going to break the law that way.

Speaker 2 (27:54):
We're get into it now. Before we get to that,
we have a must listen to moment with their good
friend Senator John Kennedy from the Great State of Louisiana.

Speaker 1 (28:04):
There's always a good quote for.

Speaker 2 (28:05):
He was on Handedy last night talking about the Democrats
and where they are and the Democrats being led down
a road by some really radical leftists. Well, he had
a suggestion for John Sean Hannity last.

Speaker 9 (28:17):
Night, Chuck and Hakeem need to go to Amazon, buy
some testicles and stand up to the moon wind of
their party and unchil they're.

Speaker 2 (28:28):
Willing to do that.

Speaker 9 (28:32):
I haven't heard Senator Schumer say anything bad about Mondamie.
I mean the guys like socialists, he won't they want shop, Yeah,
but they were afraid of the whack shop.

Speaker 2 (28:45):
Can you explain something to me?

Speaker 7 (28:46):
I didn't know that I was, Senator.

Speaker 2 (28:49):
I appreciate you.

Speaker 9 (28:50):
I appreciate you educating our audience about that.

Speaker 1 (28:52):
I had no idea they sold that.

Speaker 10 (28:55):
Sure, you guess anything for sale these days, they're very cheap.

Speaker 9 (29:00):
You can buy You can buy anything on Amazon.

Speaker 1 (29:02):
Sean, It's true you can't.

Speaker 2 (29:05):
Can you buy what he was talking about on Amazon?
Have you ever looked?

Speaker 1 (29:09):
I haven't looked, but I I'm with I'm with the
senator here. I think that well, let's put it this way,
it's the Democrats only hope that they can buy because
they certainly don't have anything. They don't you know, fortitude
to do the right thing here.

Speaker 2 (29:21):
Yeah, how about this deal real quick. You're a big
baseball fan.

Speaker 1 (29:24):
I like baseball.

Speaker 2 (29:26):
You know the Milwaukee Brewers in Major League Baseball are
red hot. Yes, they've won twelve in a row. That's
pretty good streak.

Speaker 1 (29:33):
I have a friend who's a huge Brewers fan, so yes,
I'm well aware.

Speaker 2 (29:37):
Well, apparently if they keep on winning, everybody in Wisconsin
will get a free hamburger.

Speaker 1 (29:44):
Okay, that's great.

Speaker 2 (29:47):
You know they in Milwaukee they give you a free beer.
But apparently you can't do that.

Speaker 1 (29:50):
If my Pittsburgh Pirates would win, we we'd all donate
a hamburger to someone.

Speaker 2 (29:55):
We give it.

Speaker 1 (29:55):
We give the Pirates the whole, the whole Southwest Pennsylvania
would give the pirate It's a hamburger if they could
just win, get a winning record.

Speaker 2 (30:02):
Well, speaking of Pittsburgh, there is a new drink in
Pittsburgh this summer. Have you heard about this? No, Heines
is now offering a Ketchup smoothie.

Speaker 1 (30:11):
Ew And now I love Heines Ketchup too, but you
just crossed the line with me. I can't even think
of that.

Speaker 2 (30:17):
They're apparently doing something offering a ketchup smoothie that's well,
maybe had sorbet, apple juice, strawberries, raspberries along with Heines ketchup.

Speaker 1 (30:28):
Maybe maybe I was a little too quick to try it.
It might be better than a V eight you know VS.

Speaker 2 (30:33):
You know, I would think it tastes something like a
tomato juice. Yeah, do you like tomato juice? I know, No,
I like it. I like it.

Speaker 1 (30:42):
It's Higan sodium if you care. No, but no, That's
why I was always my excuse to not to drink
tomato juice because I don't like it. But I'd say, oh,
it's Hian sodium. Somebody say it's sweet and fruity. I
try it. I send my initial reaction and say, you
know what, if Heines makes it, I'm well.

Speaker 11 (30:59):
To try it.

Speaker 12 (31:00):
Okay, when we come back to debate over the subway
slinger or the hoy Huckster, Yes, coming up, we need
your opinion coming up.

Speaker 1 (31:12):
Slingerling has been properly charged with AsSalt federal felony because
of his conduct, uh berating, screaming, and this isn't actually
they actually were letting that slide, the screaming, braiding, the profane,
you know, just you accusations, all that they didn't they

(31:33):
didn't move a muscle. Then he took his sandway subway
sandwich and he was pretty close and he just hurled
it at him, hit the guy in the upper chest
and that's when they went.

Speaker 2 (31:40):
After and it was what kind it was, but it
was a foot long.

Speaker 1 (31:44):
Now, yes, we know that this thing was packed with
cold cuts, just so you know. And whether it was turkey,
whether it was you know, with ham, whether it was
the steak, could have been a meatball, could have been
a meatball anything. I'm telling you that you throw a
pillow at a at a member of law enforcement, I
think you're on the wrong side.

Speaker 7 (32:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (32:01):
Yeah, we're watching the video right now on the foot
long fellony, so to speak. The guy took off. Now
we learned later of the guy's name. His name is
Charles Sean Duffy. He's thirty seven years done. I'm sorry,
he's thirty seven years old. Works hit the Department of Justice.
Not sure what his role there, if he's an attorney
or what he attney.

Speaker 13 (32:24):
Is it?

Speaker 2 (32:25):
So he knows the law absolutely, so here he is
he's jumping up and down in front of these guys,
you know, dropping f bombs in front of him, and
then gets to the point they have had a few
beers that night, or a few drinks, but gets to
the point where he's frustrated and he throws a subway
sandwich at the officers in front of him, hitting one
of them in the chest. Yep, and then he takes

(32:48):
off and he goes on does it? He goes running
down the street. Okay, now he has already lost his job.
Pam Bondi said, you're out of here. The question that
we have, well, let me let you hear what Janeine Piro,
who's the new US District Attorney for DC, said about

(33:08):
this incident as she explained.

Speaker 3 (33:09):
It, and the president's message to the criminals was, if
you spit, we hit. Well, we didn't quite do that.
The other night when an individual went up to one
of the federal law enforcement officers and started jumping up
and down, screaming at him, berating him, yelling at him,
and then he took a subway sandwich about this big

(33:32):
and took it and threw it at the officer.

Speaker 2 (33:35):
He thought it was funny.

Speaker 3 (33:36):
Well, he doesn't think it's funny today because we charged
it with a felony assault on a police officer, and
we're going to back.

Speaker 2 (33:42):
The police to the hilt.

Speaker 3 (33:44):
So there, stick your subway sandwich somewhere else.

Speaker 2 (33:50):
Janeane Piro on that. Now, the question is a felony?
Is that the appropriate charge to go after the subway tosser?

Speaker 1 (33:59):
In other words, would you like the death penalty? So
I just want to is this a capital punishment we
should be? Are we going too soft on the felony?

Speaker 2 (34:06):
I'm going to argue this is too harsh. A misdemeanor, Yes,
it's wrong. He shouldn't have done it. You say a
felony is appropriate charge? Why?

Speaker 1 (34:14):
A number of reasons?

Speaker 2 (34:15):
I think. I think that.

Speaker 1 (34:17):
I think especially given that he has passed the bar.
He's he's an attorney, he's passed the bar. He is
an officer of the court. He works for and on
behalf of the United States of America for the Department
of Justice. He will hold people accountable to the federal
laws of the land. That's his job. That's what he
wakes up every day to do. If there's anyone you

(34:38):
would say that would be involved in any kind of violence,
any kind of aggression towards any kind of law enforcement officer,
you know, state, local, or federal. This individual should know
better than all of them. Given his job, in his
scope of work, he is accountable. He knows the law
and what it says. If he does not receive what
is what is the They're not just contrived.

Speaker 2 (35:00):
He fits the.

Speaker 1 (35:02):
Felony. I mean his actions fit the crime. All felonies,
first degree, second degree, third degree felonies, assault, they all
have definitions to him, and they and they, and so
you have to read the you know, the penalty to
see if if what they did matches, and I am
absolutely positive that they've charged him with a felony, then
it satisfies that it's it's a felony. Now he could

(35:25):
try to plea it or whatever I would for me
knowing his background. If you talked about a young person
who might see a lot of other people behaving badly,
throwing water bottles or whatever, not understanding how far outside
the law they are, you might want to plead that
this individual is a member of the deep state, someone
who you can tell the way he's acting, has no
interest in supporting the President of the United States and

(35:46):
the administration which he works for. This guy is showing
he does not care about the law because he doesn't
think he's subject to the law. I would, I would
pursue the highest legal offense that he qualifies.

Speaker 2 (35:58):
I think it's a sandwich. I think it's just a
missed that's my opinion. It's a sandwich. You see, it's
a sandwich. Now you're saying because of who he is,
being an attorney who shouldn't know better, that he deserves
the felony because of who he is, not necessarily of
what he did, but because of who he is. That's
what you're saying.

Speaker 1 (36:18):
I'm saying that that that's why I would be unwilling
to plee it down. I think anyone that does it.
The weight of what you throw at point blank range
at an off federal officer should be immaterial.

Speaker 2 (36:28):
So if I should a cutton ball at him, I'd
still be charged with a felony.

Speaker 1 (36:33):
Okay, cotton ball is a logical extreme. I'm saying if
it's a pillow. If it was a pillow, let's say
it's a place pillar from your couch, all right, you
whip that.

Speaker 2 (36:41):
That's that's a charge. That's a fella.

Speaker 1 (36:43):
You realize that every other day, everyday Americans. If they
don't comply, if they're told to do something and they
refuse to do it, they can find themselves in handcuffs.
These are not this is not the way anyone behaves. No,
it's never dawned on anyone that you can sit nose
to nose and f bomb members of law enforce, of
which they didn't react to. They let him get away
with that. Yeah, it's only when he actually hit them

(37:05):
with something, and the threat to hit is illegal. Hitting
them was something if you want to get into. Well,
subway sandwiches are fine, but what's the weight. What is
it that that you could throw that would cross that
line for you?

Speaker 2 (37:17):
What is it that you would throw, well, baseball, I
mean now baseball that can cause injury?

Speaker 1 (37:23):
Okay, okay, what your definition is It would have to cause.

Speaker 2 (37:27):
It would have to cause an injury to the police officer.
Now you could argue a subway sandwich maybe directed at
the eye.

Speaker 1 (37:34):
Could I think the aggression towards the law enforcement officer
is where the line was crossed right there as soon
as they threw something.

Speaker 2 (37:42):
Okay, let me ask you this question. Now, he was
dropping f bombs all over the place right on this guy.
He was calling them every name in the book. Ye,
I have always heard that if you flip off a
police officer, you could be arrested. Is that true?

Speaker 7 (37:56):
You know what?

Speaker 1 (37:57):
It sounds logical to me. I don't know if it's
true or not, but it's I just know this, I
I know from various life journeys. I will just say
that that if you are not compliant, If you are
not if you're not working with the law enforcement officer
who's trying to get his head around whatever it is,
whether it's a speeding ticket, whether it's a whatever it is,

(38:18):
if you are hostile towards them, you are on the
wrong path. There are there there is a consequence to that.

Speaker 14 (38:25):
Now.

Speaker 1 (38:26):
I got to tell you, throw it something at those
guys point, I would have told you that the way
he was screaming at them is not acceptable. Oh, I
just don't even think that's I think that's the thing. I
can't believes put up with that. But it is free speech.
And and and where they're going to draw the line,
I guess is if they get touched. If they get touched,
then they're going to do something.

Speaker 2 (38:44):
He didn't touch them. He throws a sandwich out I
touched them, that touched their body. He didn't personally touch them.

Speaker 1 (38:49):
You throw anything at him and it hits them. Now
they're being hit with something instead of being yelled at.
I think that's where they drawn the line. If they
don't charge for that, they're going to get more of it.
They'll just get more of it. Whatever they tolerate more.

Speaker 2 (39:00):
To you, they will get more of it.

Speaker 1 (39:02):
With what they always cost too much.

Speaker 2 (39:05):
I think you're going to see protesters start throwing Instead
of throwing bricks, they're going to throw a subway sandwiches.

Speaker 1 (39:10):
Oh, I think that's a win win. I think you
still arrest them and we don't have the damage that
a brick would.

Speaker 2 (39:15):
So I actually hope they do that. I want to
see where audience falls on this. I know they're going
to agree with you.

Speaker 1 (39:20):
I well, you know, I don't know. I can't believe
that you're not the highest level of penalty.

Speaker 2 (39:27):
Police with a lot of crap. Yes, I can't believe
they put up with it. But is a subway sandwich
to the level of being a felony?

Speaker 1 (39:36):
What you're so, what you're saying is you should be
able to scream yell and throw anything so.

Speaker 2 (39:41):
Long it doth it doesn't harm them. I'm saying anything
as long as it doesn't harm Well, what else would
you throw that wouldn't harm them?

Speaker 1 (39:48):
A place pillow?

Speaker 2 (39:50):
And you think they would be charged with a felony
if they throw a pillow at the police.

Speaker 1 (39:54):
I think if you whip that pillow at them at
that distance, yeah, you it's an aggressive act. Yeah, I
think it's I think it's way over the top.

Speaker 2 (40:01):
Let's get in a quick call on this. Let's go
to Ray and Farmington. Let him weigh in on this. Ray,
how are you welcome to the Rod and Gregg Show.

Speaker 6 (40:09):
Hey, well, it's good to talk to you, guys. Rod.
I think you're out in left field on this one.
But just think for a minute about what was in
that subway sandwich. If they'd pete in it, if they'd
done something else in it, would that be worse? What
about a slurpee? What if instead of a slurpee was
a cup of year in What if the ice bottle

(40:30):
wasn't water it was frozen water. I mean, there's just
no limit to how far you could take this. You've
either got to be absolutely you cannot throw anything or
you're going to lose all control and police officers, who
already have an incredibly difficult time, it's just going to

(40:50):
be so much worse. I mean, even any mention of
the fact that it should be mitigated to any degree
because whatever was thrown didn't do any harm, is just
going to make this thing blow up.

Speaker 2 (41:05):
So ray are they setting an example to the rest
of the protesters. You throw anything at a police officer
in Washington during these very tense times, you are going
to be arrested in charge with a felony. Do you
think that's part of it? Right?

Speaker 6 (41:16):
I hope so, yes, I hope so, because if you
don't do that, it's just gonna get worse. It's like
all of this crap going on with what they did
to elected officials by putting up false flags and saying
things that weren't true. If those people aren't prosecuted, this

(41:36):
will never stop.

Speaker 2 (41:37):
That's right, all right, right? Thank you.

Speaker 1 (41:39):
Raise analogy is an interesting one because he says if
you throw a slurpy at him, it wouldn't harm them,
but it would be it would be a giant mess,
which is is that is that serious enough for it?
Because it didn't harm them.

Speaker 2 (41:49):
No, the felony level is what you know. I mean
the difference here. And you can argue he's an attorney,
he knows better, But does that warrant charge the law?

Speaker 11 (42:02):
Zero?

Speaker 2 (42:02):
One zero more of your calls and comments coming up
on the Rowden Gregg Show.

Speaker 15 (42:05):
You are one incorrect. I can yell and scream anything
I want at a public servant. It's called the First Amendment.
If you don't understand that, I'm as an elected official,
I have some concerns.

Speaker 1 (42:26):
You know, I'm gonna help this guy out. Okay, you're not,
but I'm gonna help him out.

Speaker 2 (42:30):
I want him to.

Speaker 1 (42:31):
I want him to take the Pepsi challenge on this one.
I want him to go up to a Memorial officer
and I want him to drop those F bombs and say,
F you fascist. And I want him to take that
video and at the top of his lungs like this
guy was hopping around inches from his face. I want
him to try that. For the First Amendment. I want
him to see if there is any if there is

(42:53):
any feeling of threat that is beyond speech, that that
person will feel. I want him to if I'm wrong,
I want him to do it and show me, and
I will be happy to apologize as long as the day.

Speaker 2 (43:05):
Will you pay his legal fees. He will have no.

Speaker 1 (43:08):
Legal fees because he won't be charged. He won't be charged.
He if the freedom of speech allows you to go
nose to nose with a member of law enforcement screaming
obscenities and telling them and do all the things we
saw in that video and hopping around doing it. If
he thinks that's as legal as the day is long,
I invite him to do it. Have someone record it
for me, and I am going to apologize forever for it.

Speaker 2 (43:29):
It's a sandwich. Let's go to the phones, Craig, and
Brigham said he wants to weigh in on this tonight. Craig,
how are you welcome to the Rod and Gregg Show.

Speaker 16 (43:39):
Have you ever heard of the broken glass theory charge?

Speaker 1 (43:42):
I sure have.

Speaker 16 (43:43):
Yes, we have acute somebody. Okay, well, if you're it
was kind of surprising to hear that you wanted to
go soft on crime.

Speaker 2 (43:54):
I'm not going soft on crime. I just think the charge.
I think the charge is a little, uh little stiff.

Speaker 7 (44:02):
I'm totally.

Speaker 11 (44:05):
It's what it is.

Speaker 16 (44:07):
The charge is what it is. The law is what
it is. If you want to change the law down
the down to be stopped on crime, you're gonna let
this guy slide on, slide on throwing a sandwich at
a guy. The next time I saw a rock at somebody,
then I don't get to get charged either.

Speaker 2 (44:27):
No, I'm sorry, Craig. There's a difference between throwing a
rock at somebody and throwing a sub boy sandwich.

Speaker 1 (44:34):
I I don't know that. I don't know that. I
don't think there's a lot of time when something's hurled
at someone to really take the weight take to the
I think when you get something thrown at you and
you hit an officer, you're on the wrong side of
the lawn immediately.

Speaker 2 (44:47):
Randy and Ogden wants to weigh in on this tonight. Randy,
how are you welcome to the show?

Speaker 14 (44:53):
Good guys, thanks taking my call. So I have a
couple of quick points here, as others are pointed out. Unfortunately,
I don't like There are plenty of other guys that
don't like it. I think it's low life. However, even
up to throwing up the middle finger to a law
enforcement officer is protected free speech under the First Amendment.
I think your low life is to do it, but

(45:13):
it is protected cussing, middle finger, whatever that be. Now,
when you start threatening any kind of violence, whether it
be throwing a sandwich, throwing a rock, anything like that,
then it becomes thread on a police officer. Then they
can start taking action and you can be arrested for that.
And then even yes, you can be charged with only

(45:33):
a misdemeanor. But it is up to the courts and
the prosecution to decide whether it's a misdemeanor or a felony.
If you throw a sandwich, rock, whatever it is, but
it is a crime to throw anything at a police officer.
It is then assault on a po.

Speaker 2 (45:51):
Okay, so it's a felony in your opinion, Randy, that's
what the law says.

Speaker 14 (45:56):
It can be prosecuted either way. Don't necessarily think they
should have taken felony, but it is most certainly up
on the table.

Speaker 1 (46:04):
All right, all right, Randy, And he brings up a
good point that screaming and everything he says is fine
until that happens. I will say though, that that not
on a felony level, but disorderly conic if you are
if you are screaming, where in a normal course. The
way you're doing it is people do become afraid. It
is beyond the pale. I do think there's disorderly conduct.
It looks it's engaging in violent behavior that that is actionable.

Speaker 2 (46:29):
Let me let me just say this because people may say, Rod,
you don't respect law enforcement. Yes I do. I know,
I do. I love law enforcement. This one is a
question of whether or not it should be a felony
or not. Back to the phones we go. I know
you're going to argue it it should be. Carl is
in pro votes and i'd hear on the Rod in
Greg show. Carl, how are you welcome?

Speaker 17 (46:50):
Hey?

Speaker 11 (46:50):
Doing good Rod? First of all, I like your terminology
put long felony. That's very good.

Speaker 2 (46:56):
I like that.

Speaker 11 (46:56):
Okay, second second question, Greg, you didn't answer the most
pertinent questions. Yes, we wasn't asked, didn't have onions, And
I got to know.

Speaker 1 (47:09):
Thank you, Carl, thank you. That is the crux of
this because you know that'll burn the eyes if that
those Philipanios get in your eyes.

Speaker 11 (47:17):
Somewhere between settle me and misdemeanor. Now, was he tossing
it to the cop to say here, have a bite.

Speaker 1 (47:24):
Yeah, No, I saw the video. Yeah he was. This
was not an act of generosity. I could tell you.
I've seen the video. He was not being nice in
that moment.

Speaker 2 (47:32):
He was not doing that girl. He was not tossing it.
He was throwing it, giving you his best shot. By
the way, he's got a poor throwing style. You see
see him throwing it. Yeah, guy's a clown. Yeah. All right,
we've got a lot of calls and a lot of
talk back. I wh this out. Yeah, we'll get to
your calls and comments. You're on the Rotten Greg Show
and Talk Radio one five nine k n R S.

Speaker 1 (47:54):
Yeah, and look, I'm I draw a distinction between I don't,
I do think it's disorderly conduct. I think in a
post to day you're gonna free if you if your
conduct has the effect of making people feel threatened or
that something's wrong, that something's going to happen, You're not
You're not able to do that. There is no freedom
of speech to just act as out of control as
humanly possible towards law enforcement anyone really where it causes that,

(48:17):
it is disorderly conduct. So I but that isn't a felony.
But as soon as you throw something soon as you
hit someone that's a law enforcement officer. Over that, I
think you've just gone to the next level. Let's go
to our phones, and let's go to Bill and Alpine.
Thank you for holding. Welcome to the writing Greg show.

Speaker 13 (48:33):
Bill.

Speaker 1 (48:34):
What do you have to say about this?

Speaker 17 (48:37):
Yeah, I would I was actually on a jury. It
was in Denver, Colorado, and which is not a bastion
of conservatism, and had involved a person who had spit
on a police officer, and they actually had a video
of it. So it seemed like a pretty cut and
dry case, and it was a class three felony just

(48:59):
for it matter if you spit in a space or
spit on his shoe. If by definition, spitting on a
police officer was a cat a class three felony at
least there and so I would agree that it depends
on the statute. If the statute says throwing something at
an officer is a felony, then you should be charged
with felony.

Speaker 1 (49:18):
Thank you. Billy brings up a good point. I mean,
you have to look at how the the law is written.
I don't know that you. I looked up quickly over
the break out. The third degree felony is you have
to you have to at least cause bodily harm, which
was the qualifier you made, that you have to cause
bodily harm or attempt something that would have the potential
that might not cause bodily harm, but was aggressive enough

(49:40):
that it could. That would be in.

Speaker 2 (49:41):
That sandwich, cause that's.

Speaker 1 (49:46):
Under Utah law. That would that would be debatable. That
would be honest, it would be debatable on sandwich. Yeah,
but I'm telling you the federal standard for it, just
like Bill said, what a third degree felony was in Colorado?

Speaker 7 (50:00):
That is no.

Speaker 1 (50:02):
I mean Colorado said spitting on officer amounted to a
third degree fellnty. So that's a third degree fellalty. I
don't know what the federal code says about a third
degree felling, but it would have to have the language
that it would fit. And so anyway, all right.

Speaker 2 (50:14):
Back to the phones. Let's go to Nick in Springville tonight.
Nick wants to weigh on him this Nick, thanks for
joining us, what say you.

Speaker 14 (50:21):
Born?

Speaker 11 (50:22):
One thing I haven't heard anybody mention is the fact
that him being an officer of the court isn't a
special position.

Speaker 16 (50:27):
A special position bumps up.

Speaker 4 (50:29):
The charge just like just like parents, teachers, you know.

Speaker 7 (50:35):
City officials.

Speaker 4 (50:37):
Well, if you have special position, it automatically bumps a
second degree felony.

Speaker 1 (50:41):
Up to a first All right, so this is I
did you know we did talk about a little bit
that that that his you know, his job, his knowledge
of the law, what he does every day for a living.
There is that is a special charge. That is a
consideration that should be factored in as well because he
and I think he knew. I think he knew exactly
what he's doing, and he just thought, like all the

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deep state guys there in DC, that he's above it all.
It doesn't apply to him.

Speaker 2 (51:06):
Let's hear some of the comments coming in on our
talk back line in.

Speaker 5 (51:09):
Regards to the guy who threw the sandwich at the
police officer. Now, was it a tuna subway sandwich? I
could see throwing a tuna subway sandwich? Or was it
a sweet onion chicken karaokee sandwich or a Philly cheese
steak sandwich? Now that would be just uncalled for.

Speaker 1 (51:30):
I can't eat tuna. I can't eat ta tuna. You
know they do at the drives through, they always get
you the drive through.

Speaker 2 (51:37):
We have got some smart butt listeners. Do you know that?

Speaker 4 (51:39):
All? Right?

Speaker 2 (51:40):
Back to the comments.

Speaker 18 (51:41):
Greg Rock, Now, I think wen nickname for this clown
would be what long fella? I think you knew evacuate
he was. He's an attorney for the Department of Justice.
He thought he was gonna get away with this little
slap of the wrists, but I ain't. Those days are
now the guest. Slap of the wrist doesn't mean to

(52:03):
take a charge. I take a couple of snacks across
the ass. You know what I'm talking about, right, you guys, keep.

Speaker 7 (52:09):
It up right.

Speaker 2 (52:11):
Here's another one. What a waste of a sandwich?

Speaker 19 (52:15):
Not to mention the story when you get into jail,
Oh why are you in?

Speaker 2 (52:20):
I threw my.

Speaker 1 (52:21):
Sandwich at a police officer.

Speaker 20 (52:24):
Yeah, he'll be the the next target of all the
guys in prison.

Speaker 2 (52:28):
Yeah, he sure will be yours. One more?

Speaker 5 (52:31):
Did you hear today that Subway is rebranding their meatball sandwich.
They're calling it the meatball Missile.

Speaker 1 (52:39):
That's why I love our listeners so much. There, this
is this is great. You throw a terry sweet karaokey,
you know, chicken some that's that is such a waste
of a good sandwich or.

Speaker 2 (52:51):
Do you not like tuna?

Speaker 1 (52:52):
I can't eat tuna. Can't eat tuna. You know, I'm
looking for to hear my quote here.

Speaker 2 (52:57):
He's not kidding it, Yeah, he's like getting all right,
all right, back on the phones. Let's go to Mark
in West Point tonight on the Roden Gregg Show. Hey Mark,
how are you.

Speaker 7 (53:05):
Hello?

Speaker 4 (53:06):
Gentlemen again, this one kind of is a little bit
touches home.

Speaker 7 (53:12):
We have it.

Speaker 4 (53:14):
Let's go back to war in urban environments where people
kick down doors and then all of a sudden, you've
got somebody that grabs something, does something, and somebody, a
soldier does something all of a sudden, people sitting back
home want to go ahead and evaluate, Well, it was
just a blank. You only have less than a second.

(53:37):
But somebody throws something at you throw evaluate that's dangerous
or nothing. So my point is, you know, we hold soldiers,
in my opinion, to a two standards that you and
I having had somebody that we loved gone because they

(54:00):
aid so I don't have any sympathy for somebody that
throws something that could have something inside of it.

Speaker 2 (54:09):
And he had to react, Yeah, he did have to react.
All right, Back to the phones.

Speaker 1 (54:13):
I think it's an escalation for sure. Let's go to
Rob and Sandy. Rob, thank you for holding. Welcome to
the Rod and Greg Show.

Speaker 21 (54:21):
Hey, how you doing today?

Speaker 6 (54:24):
Hey?

Speaker 21 (54:26):
I just got to think back to during the pandemic,
if you spit on somebody, it was more than a felony.
It could have been considered attempted murder if you had
the virus. There were numerous cases where people, you know,
they banned spitting at baseball games, they banned spitting everywhere.

Speaker 2 (54:47):
Yeah, that's true, that's true.

Speaker 1 (54:50):
It's all in context. But I got to tell you
that I think that the that where they have what
happened in LA. I think what they're trying to do
now is actually the law enforcement, the local play d are.
I think they're signaling that they appreciate the resources and
the help. They've the one to do these jobs for
a long time. You've got these all white, you know curds,
you know DOJ employees, Department of Justice attorneys somehow who

(55:13):
are trying to interrupt it and cause chaos. I think
that if they allow this, they're going to get more
of it. They have got to nip this at the
in the bud. And I think that the charges are appropriate,
and especially when you consider the position that this guy has.
It's depressing to me than an attorney, an officer of
the court who represents the United States of America and

(55:34):
issue on in cases where they're accusing some citizen of
breaking law, our US code. He's breaking the law and
knowing full well he's doing it and does not expect
to have any consequence whatsoever.

Speaker 2 (55:45):
Doesn't surprise me at all. The deep state, what is
it ninety four percent of people working in the deep
state in Washington or Democrats, He doesn't me at all.

Speaker 1 (55:57):
They's just I guess they were better at hiding it before.
It's just it's just it's it is so offensive.

Speaker 2 (56:02):
Yeah, all right, more your calls, more your talkback line
comments coming up. It is the Rod and Gregg Show
on Utah's talk radio one oh five, Dying can or
I we don't know if it was Meet paul A,
Veggie Sandwich.

Speaker 1 (56:14):
Or some of the other good names. I don't know anyway, Yeah,
this is a but we're talking about whether this Rod
for some reason thinks this guy should be thanked for
I don't even know where he's coming, No way, I said,
he said, Hug.

Speaker 2 (56:28):
You are a typical Democrat.

Speaker 1 (56:30):
You want to hug this man for showing a subway
sandwich at a federal officer trying to do their job.
I don't even know where, I don't even know you.

Speaker 2 (56:36):
He doesn't need a hug, he doesn't need to be
charged with a felt.

Speaker 1 (56:38):
I don't even I don't recognize you anymore. Let's go
to Hector. I I bet you Hector for MOREAM has
some truth bombs to share with us. Hector, Welcome to
the Rod and Gregg Show.

Speaker 13 (56:48):
Hi Ron, Hi Greg.

Speaker 22 (56:50):
Yeah, I think regarding the statute criteria with the potential
to cause bodily harm, I used to work at a
subway and I actually got the pertinage juice in my
eye and that burns so bad.

Speaker 14 (57:03):
Yeah.

Speaker 22 (57:04):
So I think there's definitely potential for bodily injury there,
and this guy needs to be charged with assault with
a delicious weapons.

Speaker 2 (57:15):
Are on. They are on today. I love it.

Speaker 1 (57:19):
By the way, I looked it up a little bit again.
I'm trying to get my You know, there are felonies
for just assaulting, resisting, impeding a federal officer employee while
they are engaged in official duties. That is a that
is a a felony, and so assaulting, resisting, or impeding
a federal officer or employee while they are engaged in
their official duties. You're getting into that, uh, that felony

(57:41):
range D just right there, whipping the whipping the the
subway sandwich at his chest. I honestly think when you
touched the officer, you've just crossed the line. I mean,
they were doing nothing if disturbing the peace, causing unrest
by the profanity and the swearing, and they were not
moving them on that, and there are there are misdemeanors

(58:02):
where I think they were that that you would you
would be violating, you'd be committing a misdemeanor if you
were doing some of those things. They were not looking
to do anything about that. It's when he got hit
with the sandwich.

Speaker 23 (58:13):
All right, let's get a couple of our talk about comments. Hey, Rodin, Greg,
this is down. I have a question on the current
topic about police officer assaults. And the question is is
is there ever a time where it is appropriate to
do so, Like, for instance, if there's a police officer
who is obviously breaking the law or doing something that

(58:36):
he shouldn't be doing, or using excessive force, just just
an open question.

Speaker 2 (58:40):
That's an interesting question. I mean, what if, in fact,
a police officer is going a little too far in
a certain situation.

Speaker 1 (58:47):
Here's the here's the here's the trap you walk into.
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I would
I think any defense attorney would would advise that you
comply with police officers and you you keep it calm
and you don't get argumentative. And if you stay professional
or calm and you do that, you're not going to
find yourself in harm's way. But if you decide on

(59:07):
your own that you you think what's happening? And he
said obviously, but even in the what would and I
don't know what obvious would mean. But let's just say
there is some obvious thing we see when you, as
a citizen engaged, you don't know what's going to happen next.
It heightens the risk for all involved.

Speaker 2 (59:23):
I think, all right, let's go back to a talk
back coming.

Speaker 19 (59:26):
I agree with Greg one thousand percent. He's an officer
of the court, he's held to a hired standard. And
if you're assaulting a police officer and you get away
with it, scott free, all that invites is more assaults
on a police officer, doesn't matter the implement used. The
officer was assaulted, the guy was a member of the court,

(59:47):
he should be tried and give it a felony.

Speaker 1 (59:50):
Well, I agree, that's what you said. You know, the
problem is in DC. Good luck in a jury. Yeah,
a pare minded jury that would ever look at the law,
look at All they have to know is who you're
throwing the subway sandwich at, and that'll decide if it was.
If it was at a Democrat, then they would say
guilty as charged Republican, they're going to say innocent.

Speaker 2 (01:00:09):
Here's one more comment, So, rud, what if the police
officer is allergic to peanuts and the guy threw a
peanut butter sandwich, would it be different?

Speaker 13 (01:00:19):
Then?

Speaker 2 (01:00:19):
How would you know?

Speaker 1 (01:00:20):
How would you know that because you're being reckless, you're
doing things you shouldn't be doing and you don't know what.

Speaker 2 (01:00:25):
But there you know if you know the guys.

Speaker 1 (01:00:28):
I just again, I'm surprised that it's were debate. I
just want if anyone thinks that throwing a sandwich at
a police officer is fine, try it out, call us
up and tell us how that went.

Speaker 2 (01:00:40):
For I want to read the level of charges against
him are a little wits all I'm saying. Yeah, a
little bit later on Steve Moore will join us, But
right now, let's talk about the playbook for the uh,
the Democrats in twenty twenty six. Here it is curse more,
obey less, protect criminals and illy immigrants at old cost.

(01:01:02):
That's their platform.

Speaker 1 (01:01:03):
Yeah, it's a it's a pretty weak one as far
as platforms go.

Speaker 2 (01:01:08):
I think you think how I see it? Yeah. Well,
joining us on our newsbager line to talk more about
that is Andrew Styles, senior writer of the Washington Free Beacon,
wrote about this today. That's a hack of a platform,
Andrew to run on curse moore, obey last, protect criminals
and the illegal immigrants at all times.

Speaker 1 (01:01:25):
Very aspirational.

Speaker 13 (01:01:28):
Yeah, it's as far as I can tell, it's the
only thing that I really all the Democrats seem to
agree on right now. And I think if that's what
they want to run on, good luck, because it doesn't
seem like they're really relating to the voters that have
been fleeing the party in recent years with that platform.

Speaker 1 (01:01:52):
So look, I'm not an angel. I might I might
have used some swears in my life, maybe even didn't
appreciate time and place appropriately. I might have been guilty
of that. But what I didn't do, and what I'm
watching a Beto O'Rourke do, is I didn't do it
in a performative way. I wasn't on a platform or
a pedestal, you know, dropping the F bombs and trying

(01:02:12):
I did this all come from some focus group that
said you got to look like you got to sound
tougher and look tougher, so you gotta start swearing more.
Is it down to that.

Speaker 13 (01:02:22):
Yeah, you know, it could be. There's nothing democrats love
more than putting a focus group together, forming a committee
and coming up with suggestions like, you know, use the
F words two and a half times per spege or something.
I mean, I guess what they what I imagine is
going on, is they see someone like Trump, who is

(01:02:43):
not your typical politician, who's crude in crafts sometimes and
they see Trumps success and they think, oh, well, why
don't we just do that? But like you said, the
problem is that it's so inauthentic and performative and theatrical
that it's just it gives the opposite message like we're like,

(01:03:04):
this is performative. We don't this is not who we
really are. We're playing a role. And I think voters
can see through that.

Speaker 14 (01:03:11):
You know.

Speaker 2 (01:03:11):
You know, Andrew I saw the other day and you know,
Betto was out there dropping f bombs all over the place,
but apparently entered the stage riding a skateboard. And when
they crossed the stage on a skateboard, I guess skateboard
enthusiasts like this. Is that his idea? Andrew apparent?

Speaker 13 (01:03:29):
So he yeah, he was a bit of a punk
rocker back in the day, I guess, and so he
I mean, this guy will do anything for attention. It
seems like I mean, I thought we were rid of
him after he lost his third consecutive election, and he
just won't go away. He loves the spotlight, and you know,
right now, since there's no leader in the Democratic Party

(01:03:52):
to speak of, he's grabbing the spotlight. And I imagine
that if you're a Democrat and you care about winning elections,
you're probably not too happy about that.

Speaker 1 (01:04:02):
You know, going back to past races, when you especially
national races where you saw the Republican Canada Democrat candidate lose,
there is some looking at you know, self searching what
what what happened? And I think about Bill Clinton and
his different campaign versus of Michael Ducocus, how he shifted.
It doesn't sound like the Democrats right now want to

(01:04:22):
shift anything. It sounds like, if anything, their base wants
them to be more socialist. So is it just going
to be the F word dot dot dot as their platform?
I mean, is that going forward or are they going
to pivot anywhere in terms of a common sense platform
for the American people?

Speaker 13 (01:04:38):
In your in your opinion, well, I mean I think
if you you read some reporting on what Democrats are
actually hearing from their constituents, they're they're angry, and they
want uh not then not necessarily want violence, but they
want Democrats willing to get arrested and get got at

(01:05:01):
and just make a scene. They're very radical right now.
So I think Democrats are doing this partly in a
response to the anger they feel from Democratic voters at
town halls. I mean, of course, there's nothing really they
can do, not being in the minority right now except
throw performative temper tantrums. So that's what you have right now.

(01:05:25):
And they're heading into the selection agreeing on basically nothing
except we oppose Trump, and right now Trump is deporting
illegal immigrants and cracking down on crimes, so naturally they
have to be opposed to those things, and they're playing
right into Trump's hence his two strongest issues by kind

(01:05:49):
of having a tantrum about he's being too hard on
criminals and illegal immigrants. And I think, you know, it's
not really a great message. Maybe it's a good message
for of the Democratic primary voters, but in general election,
I'm not so sure.

Speaker 2 (01:06:04):
And Andrew, you talked about the anger that runs through
the Democratic Party. Is it running through all age cells
within the party? Is it the younger wing of the party,
the more radical wing of the party, or is it
the more established Democrats who are older. I mean, is
the anger running through the entire Democratic Party right now?
Do you know?

Speaker 13 (01:06:24):
It's I would imagine it's all over the place. I
mean some of you. You have the MSNBC viewers, which
are you know, mostly nursing home patients in the older
crowd that are very angry. Obviously they watch MSNBC all
day or their bedridden and they don't have a choice.
And then the younger ones on Collis Campus campuses. You know,

(01:06:47):
they're not as I don't think they're as engaged. They're
not the sort of people that vote in midterm elections,
but at least when school gets back in session, they'll
be performatively angry on campus about uh something Israel or whatnot.
So there, I think, yeah, I think the entire party,
and look, I think this is kind of similar to

(01:07:10):
what Republicans went through when Obama was president. There was
the Tea Party and kind of a general anger and
they're they're they were looking for someone not part of
the party. They felt like the party had let them down.
And I think Democrats probably feel that way now, which
is why you're seeing people like Zorn Mdani and all

(01:07:32):
sorts of characters start to win Democratic primaries, and you're
probably going to see more of it.

Speaker 1 (01:07:38):
So we live here in Utah, we were you know,
we we know what we know. But when we look nationally,
we think we see we see characters like Zulander, the
guy running from here in New York, Beto, who I've had,
I've had Texans tell me that the Texans think he's weird.
I mean, if there's a reason he's lost three consecutive races,
and then you have Jasmine Crockett elected. She's she's certainly

(01:07:59):
taken has taken that extreme. You know, she's going to
drop f bombs and she's going to be as abrasive
as possible. You put those three I just mentioned, and
you put AOC and Bernie in the mix. Is the
Is the party just gonna have to appeal to a
very small base, a thirty percent base? Is it larger?
Am I in Utah? I just don't know how wildly
popular these characters I just mentioned. Are what's going to

(01:08:22):
happen in a primary? Or are these the leaders were
just identifying right now? Beto, Zoolander and Crockett. Is that
is that the future of the Democrat Party?

Speaker 13 (01:08:33):
It certainly seems that way right now. They're the ones
getting attention. And say what you will about Zoolander. I
love the name. He actually won an election recently. Beto's
one nothing, I guess Crockett.

Speaker 7 (01:08:49):
Has one.

Speaker 13 (01:08:50):
But they're you know right now, she's just kind of
not concerned with politics rather than just kind of getting
attention and going viral. And it's we live in a
media environment that you know, we're people rise by getting
attention and making a scene Beto's proven he's good at

(01:09:11):
doing that. He's a couple of years ago I think
he would he showed up, had some uh local town
meetings after a school shooting and shouting about gun control
and getting kicked out, and he knows how.

Speaker 2 (01:09:26):
To make a scene.

Speaker 13 (01:09:26):
And I think that Democrats now see it a power vacuum.
There's no clear leader, and whoever gets the most attention,
you know, and appears the angriest, is going to appeal
to their angry base. I think, man, this twenty twenty
eight Democratic parmer is going to.

Speaker 2 (01:09:45):
Be wild looking for all Right, Andrew, thank you. Andrew Styles,
senior writer of the Washington Free Beacons, thanks for joining
us tonight. Andrew you thanks guy. All Right, and Andrew
said it best. I think great in the Demo Ccratic
Party right now, and in politics today, I think more
so on the Democratic side. It's all about it's all

(01:10:06):
about performance. Heck with policy, it's all about performance.

Speaker 1 (01:10:10):
They won't move an inch. They're not budging at all
on any issues. In fact, they with a straight face.
Somebody has to tell them you cannot keep arguing against
public safety. This is just not going to fly. But
there's no one saying that they are going to fight
fighting crime. They're going to be against law for lawlessness,
against public safeties. So long as there's any Republican touch

(01:10:31):
or Trump's touch to it, they're going to be opposed
to it. And I don't know how they think that
is going to be aspirational or gain them votes with
the American people.

Speaker 2 (01:10:40):
Scott Jennings on cn THEN last night said it best
about the Democratic Party and they're protests right now.

Speaker 20 (01:10:45):
I don't know what's authoritarian about putting some extra eyes
and ears on the street, getting criminals off the street,
to keep people from being murdered in carjacked.

Speaker 2 (01:10:53):
Nobody in their right mind believes.

Speaker 20 (01:10:55):
Washington, DC is safe and to say the president is
trying to help us keep people from getting murdered in
cars jack and we have to stop this authoritarian push
and it's just sort of ridiculous rhetoric. These Democrats don't
know what to do with themselves. Every time Donald Trump
tries to do something, they reflexively feel the need to
oppose it without thinking through the political implications for themselves.

Speaker 2 (01:11:13):
You think Democrats are taking the bait.

Speaker 20 (01:11:15):
Well, I think they're acting like idiots here. The city
is crime ridden. I saw a guy get murdered in
Union Station in February at four in the afternoon. I
saw the body hit the floor at the bottom of
the escalator on the second floor. And so everybody who
visits there, everybody who lives there, knows it's a serious problem.
You have extra eyes and ears, they've arrested criminals, they're

(01:11:36):
getting illegal guns off the street.

Speaker 2 (01:11:37):
People feel safe, for tourists feel safer. What is the problem? Yeah, Yeah,
Scott Jennings makes a very good point. Greg, I got
a few more thoughts on this when we come back.
Came to me today and I want to talk to
you about that as well. So we'll continue with the
Rod and Greg Joe right here on Utah's Talk Radio
one oh five nine KNRT.

Speaker 1 (01:11:54):
I'm citizen Greg Hughes.

Speaker 2 (01:11:56):
And I'm brought our kied. Great to be with you
again on this Thursday. Always enjoy your company. We hope
you We keep you company as you headed home tonight.
We had a lively discussion last hour about the subway slinger.

Speaker 1 (01:12:09):
Foot long felon.

Speaker 2 (01:12:10):
The foot long felaon, so to speak. You know the
thing about that that bothers me more than anything, Greg
about what's going on in the nation's capitol right now.
I fully support what the president is trying to do.
And you hear democrats all the time, Greg say, we aren't.
You know, what we need to do is address the
root problems of what's going on in washing it. But

(01:12:32):
have you ever heard a democrat, Greg offer a solution?

Speaker 14 (01:12:36):
Never?

Speaker 2 (01:12:37):
Never? What are the root causes of crime? And why
aren't democrats offering solutions?

Speaker 1 (01:12:44):
Well, you know, and you know what, that sounds poetic,
that sounds nice. Let's look at the root causes. Let's
not talk about the crime. That's the that's the symptom,
what's the or that, Yeah, what's the the what's what's
the what's the root? Cause they don't have any idea
is because what they really want to do is they
want to create fear and they want to create misery.

(01:13:05):
And you don't do that by bringing out ideas. Ideas
are aspirational, plans are aspirational. They don't ever get votes
that way. They get votes by criticizing Republicans, ripping on them,
telling you that the planet's boiling, that the border, you know,
is fine, and if you don't like, if you don't
if you have a problem with it, it's you have
the problem. The border doesn't everything. Everything they put a narrative,

(01:13:27):
they do to create fear and to raise the misery index,
and none of that affords them the chance to be
aspirational and bring you some good ideas.

Speaker 2 (01:13:36):
Yeah, I mean speaking of ideas, I mean less address
what I think are some of the real issues here
my opinion, and it begins with number one. I think
it's the breakdown of the family. Easily, easily the breakdown
of the family. Yeah, the stats just don't lie.

Speaker 1 (01:13:50):
It doesn't matter your your race, color, creed, it doesn't
matter even your socioeconomic status. If you have two parents
in the home, and it may have different it changes
the trajectory of that child's life. And look, I mean
I've lived in both. I've had a single I was
raised by a single mother. My grandmother, unfortunately for different circumstances,
was a single mother raising her my mom and my

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aunts and my uncle. But I've been married for thirty
something years and we had a two parent home, very
different than the way I grew up. Yeah, and I'm
going to tell you I fundamentally know the difference. I've
seen it with my own eyes. I've lived it. I
know what the difference is. And it doesn't take a
certain household income to have a family, to have a family,
to have children, to watch after those kids. And the
fact in America is so great that if you graduate

(01:14:34):
from high school, just high school, and then you get
a full time job out of high school, and then
you get married, yeah, the three step apro then you
have kids, you're your four step proprotes.

Speaker 2 (01:14:44):
That four step.

Speaker 1 (01:14:44):
Approach in the chronological order I just described it put
you at a ninety plus percent chance of living above
the poverty line in America. If you did those four
things and those aren't, I would argue, that's not college.
I'm saying high school, full time job, marriage, and then kids.

Speaker 2 (01:14:59):
And I told I agree with you. Why are Democrats
are really and really, why are Republicans so afraid to
talk about this? Republicans, you'd never hear them talk about it,
do you know?

Speaker 1 (01:15:09):
Democrats don't talk about it because it's not part of
their misery and fear mongering playbook. Republicans don't talk about
it because they buy in to what the Democrats say.
Look at you know, your Republican pannikins have said, oh,
Texas can't redistrict because that don't mean that the Democrats
the Blue states will do it. They already did it.
They've already done it. Now we have lawsuits for redistricting

(01:15:30):
depending in our state. They went after them in Texas
and the Santa's vetoed it. But it's a concerted effort
from the same people. They've been attacking this country and
its people for so long, and when you have a
president and a Republican party that wants to do something
about it, you get these panic and Republicans saying no, no, no, no,
you're going to.

Speaker 2 (01:15:46):
Make it worse.

Speaker 1 (01:15:47):
Why because they bought into the fear, and they bought
into the misery and they don't want any more of it.
They're making decisions out of fear. And that's so that
never lends itself rod to talking about the family and
how important that is to our society and how the
society can prosper.

Speaker 2 (01:16:02):
Would it be wise if Donald Trump and the Republicans, Okay,
let's say they do the best they can and they
reduce crime in the nation's capital, which is their goal, right.
They want everyone to be safe. I mean he talks
about everybody's safety, not just a few people being safe,
because that's what the Democrats believe in right now. Yes,
but what if he gets that and then he's ready

(01:16:23):
to address some of these problems family, education, jobs, that's
what he's got to talk about. But you can't do that,
greg until until the crime level is brought down to
a manageable level. If you can call it.

Speaker 1 (01:16:36):
Lawlessness doesn't lend itself to a prospering society. Your schools,
you can't walk to school that, your businesses, you name it.
There's none of that that's going to happen. Well, if
you have lawlessness, you have to have a civilized society.
You have to have a society of law and order,
and public safety is integral to all of it. Look,

(01:16:56):
he's going to be successful, and the Democrats are never
given him a single second about it to find some
way to frame it. We were all ready to go
in this way. It was already gonna happen. He's trying
to distract from other things. They're going to find some
negative spin to put on it. No matter how successful
he is, or especially when he's successful, they'll find a
way to tear it down. That's all they do, is
they tear down full time.

Speaker 2 (01:17:16):
All right, when we come back, economist Steve Moore will
join us. We'll talk about his visit to the White
House last week. Told us we're second rate, you know, we.

Speaker 1 (01:17:25):
Visit the White House instead of regular Thursday run us
of bouse.

Speaker 2 (01:17:29):
Yep's there's some new economic numbers out today. We'll explore
those with Steve Moore coming up right here on the
Roden greg Show and Talk Radio one O five nine
k n r S. But last week something happened.

Speaker 1 (01:17:41):
That's right. We are trying to call.

Speaker 13 (01:17:42):
We come.

Speaker 1 (01:17:43):
We call it our regular time. It's before the show, folks.
We we do this before. This is when we have
to he's Eastern time. We have to get this movefore
the show. We're calling, calling, and we can't. He's not
he's not picking up. And this has happened before every
once in a while. But we're like, man, you know,
And so all of a sudden, we his voice. Yeah,
and I turn around because the big studio, the big

(01:18:05):
TV with the Fox News is behind me. I look
over my right shoulder and there he is in real time.

Speaker 2 (01:18:10):
Yeah, he's in the White House with the President.

Speaker 1 (01:18:12):
Yes, he's there. I bet you anything. His phone is
buzzing in his pocket as he's talking to him. So,
you know, I don't know how I feel about that.

Speaker 2 (01:18:21):
Yeah, well Steve will explain this. He's joining us on
our Newsbaker line right now. All right, Steve, what gibbs
the President over the Rotten Greg Show? What's that all about?

Speaker 10 (01:18:29):
I'm still kind of pinching myself over that whole meeting.
Was it kind of like an out of body experience
where you know, I had got in a call to
go over and meet with the President about a couple
of things, and we had a nice discussion, and I
showed him. I came with these big, you know, huge
poster graphs, you know, on a big cardboard thing, because
Trump loves to look at pictures, you know. So I

(01:18:51):
have these four or five graphs on these posters about
how well the economy is doing it under him versus
behinden et cetera, et cetera.

Speaker 13 (01:18:58):
And he loves me.

Speaker 10 (01:18:58):
He goes, He turns to Natalie, who's his assistant, said
let's have a press conference.

Speaker 2 (01:19:03):
And I'm a all of a sudden.

Speaker 10 (01:19:05):
The lest thing I know, he opens the doors to
the to the Oval office and like thirty reporters come
in fifteen cameras were surrounded, and Trump does, Okay, you
stand on the side, and I'll stand on the side,
and he says, we have an important announcements to make.
See I've taken away come.

Speaker 2 (01:19:24):
No no butterflies at all, right, Steve, No butterflies at all.
When that happened, oh my god.

Speaker 10 (01:19:30):
And then you know, I remember, like when I was
the whole thing lasted about a half hour, and I
remember when I walked out of there and out of
the Oval Office and out of the White House in
down Pennsylvania Avenue.

Speaker 7 (01:19:40):
I was like, did that really just happen?

Speaker 2 (01:19:44):
You know it?

Speaker 10 (01:19:45):
But it went viral and everywhere every I mean everybody, I.

Speaker 2 (01:19:47):
Know, every girls I dated in high school, we're calling me.

Speaker 1 (01:19:50):
I'm telling you it was a big because you know,
it was so fun about it. As you would show
the poster boards, he goes, oh, I like that one.

Speaker 7 (01:19:56):
Oh.

Speaker 1 (01:19:56):
I like, yeah, that's a good one.

Speaker 2 (01:19:58):
I like that.

Speaker 1 (01:19:58):
He was like, my van I was, I just did't hear, Steven.
I did not hear you say. But miss President, I've
got to talk to the Roden Gregg Show. So we
got you know, press, all.

Speaker 2 (01:20:16):
Right, Steve, let's talk some serious cp I was out.
A couple of the gos PPI out today. What do
you make of the numbers coming in?

Speaker 10 (01:20:24):
Well, they pointed an opposite direction, so that the consumer
price index was very good number, very low increase in
prices other than like coffee and beef, which are the
two things that are up. I don't know in Salt
Lake that's the case, but around the country coffee is
more expensive and and a steak is more expensive, but
almost everything else is pretty steady in price. But then
we got this producer price Index, which is sort of

(01:20:46):
the wholesalers and so on. In those prices, that number
was up a bit. So I still think we've got
pretty tame inflation. I think we're in the two to
three percent range.

Speaker 2 (01:20:55):
Now i'd like it a little little older than that.
I want it down, you.

Speaker 10 (01:20:59):
Know, to two percent. But it's much better than we
had under Biden when the inflationment was six and remember
reached nine percent. So we're nowhere near there. And it's
because we're increasing the output of goods and services, and
when that happens, prices go down. And so I feel
pretty good about that, and I feel pretty good about
all this investment. And one of the things that doesn't

(01:21:19):
was telling me when I met with them was he said, like,
we're bringing hundreds of billions of dollars in investment dollars
into the United States. In other words, instead of leaving
the United States, the investment's coming in, you know, build
factories and plans and research facilities, and so that's really
good news for the US economy as well. And then
you know, you've got a lot of the deregulation efforts

(01:21:40):
and all of these things I think are very pro business,
pro worker, and pro America. So I'm I'm pretty feeling
pretty good about the US economy right now.

Speaker 1 (01:21:49):
You know you are, You're a pace center. I'm not
kissing up. I'm just saying this morning, I saw you
on one of the business news channels and you were
announcing and showing that the average income for the middle
class every day of the working was up six thousand
dollars and you said that it's actually is outpacing if
you put Obama and Biden combined. Maybe sure, with our listeners,

(01:22:09):
what's the good news on that front.

Speaker 10 (01:22:12):
Well, so we have access to this data that we
put together, this model, and it's it's within a three
percent merger Maryer. So it's pretty accurate. And so we
have the numbers for what happened obviously on the Trump's
first term and then through Biden's term which edited in December.
And so in Biden's term in office, he median family

(01:22:35):
income the people in the middle went up five hundred
dollars in four years. Under Trump it went up six
thousand dollars, So a ten times bigger gain for the
middle class. That's a big deal, and it's you know,
it shows that Trump really is the working class president.

Speaker 2 (01:22:49):
It sure does. Steve another topic, someone we've had on
the air before, I know, a colleague of yours at
the Heritage Foundation, e j Antonio, now nominated to be
the head of the Bureau Labor Statistics. How big of
a job does he have in making sure the numbers
come out the way they should?

Speaker 10 (01:23:07):
Well, first of all, Heja is a really good friend
of mine. He's a Steve Moore protege. He's a fantastic economist,
he learned well.

Speaker 2 (01:23:14):
No, but he's a really good guy regulars too.

Speaker 1 (01:23:17):
He's leaving us agular.

Speaker 10 (01:23:19):
Yeah, I'm a big fan of his. And now he's
getting beaten up by the press. You know, but the
fact is that he'd be excellent. And here's the thing,
I don't know, if you're a liberal, conservative, Democrat, Republican,
no matter what your political philosophy is, we should all agree.
I would think, gentlemen, that we want honest numbers and
accurate numbers, right, and we're just not getting those from

(01:23:40):
That's one of the things I said in that press
conference with Trump. I said, look at these numbers. They're
all over the place. It's almost like a blind man,
you know, throwing a dart at a dart port. And
so when you get those hurky jerky numbers where we
just don't know if we can trust the you know,
the most important barometer we get each month on the
economy is the job's number, right, Yep, that's right. The

(01:24:01):
numbers are not trusted. So we need someone like EJ.
He's the perfect person to come in there and not
to slat the numbers one way or another. Just give
us the honest number, give us accuracy, because we don't
have it right now. And that's really bad for business.
It's bad for the you know a lot of government
benefits are attached to these numbers, and they are you know,

(01:24:23):
they are completely out of date.

Speaker 1 (01:24:25):
So, you know, we're seeing with all the other news
that's going on in the deep stay, you're seeing this
that there's just some you know, even on the crime scene,
you're seeing a guy that was a Justice Department of
Justice attorney that was assaulting a ice and for you know,
federal law enforcement official and you find out he works
for the Department of Justice, and it just gives you
this haunting feeling that the people that work inside Washington

(01:24:47):
are really just not on our side and they don't
think that the laws applied to them does. So when
we talk about, you know, people that we want to
see in these important spots and we want good information,
we want unbiased information. Yeah, does this turn Does this
administration have a shot at really getting past the deep
state and really get us to that point? Are you
optimistic that we can get to real data, real information

(01:25:09):
so that we know what we have.

Speaker 10 (01:25:12):
That's a really good question. By the way, we could
probably talk for about a half an hour about that.
It's a really important question because the deep state is real.
It's not a sigment of your imagination. I mean, the
State Department, the Justice Department, the FDI, the irs, even
a lot of the EPA, they've been stocked with left
wing ideologues and they are out to get us. And

(01:25:33):
we know that from what happened under Biden, where they
were all weaponized, and so even the banking oversight people
are weaponized the whole dew banking issue. So Trump is
making the first real wholesale effort to try to.

Speaker 7 (01:25:48):
Do exactly what you're talking about.

Speaker 10 (01:25:49):
Clean out the ideologues and let's just get competent people
in these agencies. One of the most important things Donald
Trump did, if you want to talk the most left wing, crazy,
lunatic people at all of government, they're the people who
run the foreign aid programs.

Speaker 2 (01:26:03):
Well, guess what.

Speaker 10 (01:26:03):
Trump is shutting those down and that's why you're hearing
howls or protests by the left. But those foreign aid
programs don't help poor countries. They've just created a what
I call a foreign aid industrial complex. The money doesn't
even leave Washington, DC, you know, it just builds up
all these people. So Trump's doing the best he can
whether he can win this fight against you know, look,
it's a three million person bureaucracy.

Speaker 2 (01:26:25):
Yeah it is. Steve. Thanks for joining us. Always good
to have Steve Back, but he makes some very good points.
Donald Trump is doing the best he can. Will he
solve the problems of the deep state? We don't know,
but we can. We have to try. And that's exactly
what he's doing. That's what the American people asked him
to do.

Speaker 1 (01:26:42):
And here's if it's not him, it's not getting solved.
I just don't know anyone who has such a bias
towards action, who's going to continue to be just just
you know, I'm just merciless in their attempt to get
something better than what they have and four and on
behalf of the American people. He is really creating a
pace we've never seen in Washington and a change we
haven't seen before.

Speaker 2 (01:27:01):
All right, more coming up. It is the Rod and
Greg Show on Utah's Talk Radio one oh five nine canters.

Speaker 1 (01:27:06):
It was an epic discussion in the five o'clock hour.

Speaker 2 (01:27:09):
I love the name. Someone came up with the meat
ball sand which is now the meatball missile.

Speaker 1 (01:27:14):
That's right, you got to be careful. You have a
little more weight to it.

Speaker 2 (01:27:18):
That's pretty good. All right. A couple of final notes
I don't want to bring up to you, mister hughes.
You know, sometimes you have to wonder where did the
progressives come up with these ideas? Right, you hear things,
you go, where did that come from? Okay? Yes, well,
now the Associated Press says that your dog is causing
climate change.

Speaker 1 (01:27:40):
Well, they're trying to get rid of all the farmers,
saying that the cows were you know, the flatuation, yeah,
of cows was causing climate change. Now it's our dogs.
Now they've gone that's a that's a bridge too far.
Mess with people's dogs and see what you get.

Speaker 2 (01:27:54):
Yeah, yeah, why do dogs cause climate change? According to
the story, dogs are big meat eaters, and meat is
a significant contributor to climate change. That is because many
of the farm mantles which will be food, release methane gas,
a greenhouse gas that contributes to climate change. How do
you tell cows to stop farting? No, they just want

(01:28:14):
to get rid of all the cows. They want to,
They really want to. They just want bioengineered food. They
want to get rid of the farms. And I really
don't think it has anything to do with good stewardship
of this planet. It's about control. It's about they're going
to make stuff that we're gonna have to eat and
not have farms.

Speaker 1 (01:28:29):
Farmers.

Speaker 14 (01:28:30):
You know.

Speaker 2 (01:28:31):
Now here's something interesting. Greg Gallup Survey. Fewer Americans are
reporting that they drink alcohol, amid a growing belief that
even moderate alcohol consumption is a health risk.

Speaker 1 (01:28:43):
They didn't get that memoum in Pittsburgh. I'm just gonna
in fact, there's a there was. It's a it's a
drinking town with a football.

Speaker 2 (01:28:51):
That's what it is.

Speaker 1 (01:28:52):
By the way, yesterday on their local affiliate there, I
know we have run out of time. Five of their
their firefighters were charged for being showing up to the
fire drunk. It's a true story. And it's Shylor Tright,
where my cousin lives too. Same they came charted, I
think you might, you know, I hope they didn't go
to much ties.

Speaker 2 (01:29:10):
To do with that. Yeah, you just never don't all right,
one other one? How long has it been since you've
been to a movie? Oh?

Speaker 1 (01:29:17):
Just I just really I went to f one. I
went and saw that.

Speaker 2 (01:29:19):
I saw too. I think I've been to three movies
this year.

Speaker 1 (01:29:23):
No, I take that back. I saw Fantastic Four after that, so.

Speaker 2 (01:29:27):
Yeah, yeah, I've been to maybe three.

Speaker 13 (01:29:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:29:29):
Well, that was good. Yeah, mission impossible and uh, what's
the other one? F one?

Speaker 1 (01:29:36):
Yeah, so I I saw Maverick at the movie theater too,
But I can name on one hand at the movies
when I used to go every single weekend dinner in
a movie, dinner in a movie. We do it because
every Friday there would be some great movie.

Speaker 2 (01:29:46):
That is new. Survey shows that the COVID lockdowns are
killing the movie theater industry.

Speaker 1 (01:29:51):
Well, it's also that the movies aren't any good anymore,
the whole there's not or they're just you know, they're
just lecturing you.

Speaker 2 (01:30:00):
They're just not the same, nothing creative anymore, not at all.
All Right, that does it for us Tonight tomorrow, don't
forget it is Thank rodin Greg, It's Friday. Glenn Beck
may be a guest on the show. We'll see drink
and join us tomorrow. That'll happen. Head up, shoulders back.
May God bless you and your family. Talk to you tomorrow.

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