The Rod and Greg Show: Glad American Overloads Getting Fired; Higher Ed Foundation Bankrolling Activists; Tarrifs

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Nice weekend, actually got out and got a chance to
swing the sticks.

Speaker 2 (00:05):
Nice. Yeah, you know, driving range. Just kind of loosen up, folks.
He hates wasting all the good shots on the driving range.
I do. And then he did dutifully texted me over
the weekend and say, yep, I still got it on it.

Speaker 1 (00:18):
So we're going to be playing on is it Thursday?
We're gonna be playing Thursday. So we've got to get
the game ready for a Thursday. That should be a
lot of fun. We've got a dynamite show today.

Speaker 2 (00:29):
You don't do you know what? I think?

Speaker 1 (00:30):
It's so funny, Greg. Here you have Donald Trump who
has survived two assassination attempts, and everybody thinks he's going
to back down on this tariff thing because the market
is going crazy and there's some economists out there who
are making these unbelievable predictions and even some conservatives panicking, Yeah,

(00:51):
who are panicking over this. You think Donald Trump's going
to back down after he was survived to assassination attempts.

Speaker 2 (00:57):
No, he's He's not going to what you call battle tested, Okay,
He's just gonna go ahead and do what he thinks
is right and he's moving at a pace you've never
seen happen in Washington, d C. Of all places. And
everyone wants to say, well, it's been twenty minutes. Why
hasn't the whole world changed. You want to restructure trade,
world trade with the United States, with every other country.
Why hasn't it happened already? Why can't Why is it

(01:19):
with that, with that unrealistic demand you're still seeing and
we have We'll show you there, We'll share for you
folks over the over the course of the show, fifty
sixty almost seventy countries are ready to say we're ready
to come to the table eliminate that that whole tarriff
thing that's been unequal. I don't know what the other
ones are thinking, but I'm here now. Benjamin Benjamin net

(01:42):
and Yahoo is was at the White House today. He says,
we are getting rid of our trade deficit. It's going
and I don't mean someday. I mean now. This guy
is hot to trot. So you've got him moving. And
then Jim Kramer that you know the mystery, Oh, the
Nasdaq was up, others are up? Went downladless than one
percent want less than yeah, less than one percent and

(02:03):
one about one percent. But but Kramer was wrong, that guy.
People joke that whatever he says, do the opposite and
you'll be right more than not. And I think there's
stats to show it, but you know, not even the markets.
The New York Times had to pivot from it's a
free fall to it's wild swings. It's wild, there are
wild swings.

Speaker 1 (02:22):
So and it's only been what Wendy announced it on Wednesday,
on five six days.

Speaker 2 (02:27):
And world days Wednesday, he did it later and Wednesday
so really Thursday, Fridayay, so we've had three business days
and he hasn't had this whole thing all buttoned up
and looking pretty yet Democrats all they want to do
is cry and yell and tear down and then and
this is gonna I have a feeling Rod and Folks
that this is going to be one of those weeping

(02:47):
and whaling moments that we can look back at that
it's not going to age very well, because I do
believe that he's going to be able to drive better
arrangements and trade agreements with other nations that put American
jobs in place and puts us in a much more
competitive economic environment going forward.

Speaker 1 (03:03):
Well, we're gonna be talking a lot about that today.
We're also, I can't believe it, Judge Roberts has stepped
up on this immigration issue, about this guy who is
apparently deported incorrectly. We'll get into that that's coming up.
We'll talk about the the the bureaucratic czars I guess
we could call them, and they're panicking over all these

(03:24):
changes that are taking place. We'll get into that. Well,
we've got a lot to get to today, so we
invite you to be a part of the program. Eight
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Now over the weekend, the big story, the hands off protest.
There there is irony in all of this, Craig, because

(03:47):
here you here, you have what they estimate the crowd
up with the state capitol about ten thousand.

Speaker 2 (03:53):
Now that'd be I'd say that's a lot lot.

Speaker 1 (03:58):
Yeah, there are a lot of people there. So here
we have protesters who are saying I want hands on
from the federal government. Yeah, it's not hands on what
I am at protesting. I want the government to be
a bigger part of my life. Control everything I do
in my life. Tell me what to eat, tell me
what to drive, tell me what to wear, because I

(04:20):
want the government to run my life.

Speaker 2 (04:23):
Hold on, Trump is going after fraud, waste abuse, and
the heavy hand of government. Hands off Trump and and doge.
We like the government having fraud, waste abuse, and socially
engineering our lives. It was a clown show. And there
is just some young patriot kid that went up there
to the Utah State Capitol in the midst of all
this went to the belly of the beast with his

(04:44):
tie shirt and tie on. I don't know who this
kid is, but man, I tell you I love him.
I thought over the weekend and I just chuckled.

Speaker 3 (04:49):
Bit.

Speaker 2 (04:50):
These lunatics are surrounding them. Yeah, they're even touching him,
and they're they would run into him and then scream
up he's touching me, Say they these are grown adults.

Speaker 1 (04:57):
Yeah you got to hear this, because the kid says,
look at got dressed up. I'm wearing a suit and
tie because I wanted to show respect for you people protesting.
Listen to what happened.

Speaker 4 (05:06):
To confronting these anti Trump and anti Elon must protesters.

Speaker 2 (05:10):
Seeing what they're protesting for. Let's see who we can
get up here. Wow, I just want to remind you
of a protest procedure.

Speaker 5 (05:17):
Don't film in this consent of anyone's faces, and we'd
ask if you are.

Speaker 2 (05:20):
On public property though, so we can film. Are you
part of the protest? Are you pours?

Speaker 6 (05:24):
I'm here?

Speaker 2 (05:25):
Easy, dude, you don't have our consent to do this.
Don't touch me. Don't touch me.

Speaker 4 (05:29):
Don't touch me.

Speaker 2 (05:30):
I didn't touch you for you touch me. Don't touch me?

Speaker 6 (05:33):
Got some money?

Speaker 2 (05:34):
He's touching.

Speaker 4 (05:38):
Almost easy?

Speaker 2 (05:45):
What get the police? What did I don't elbows around around?
Holy cow, don't let me go. What are you gonna do? Elbows? Elbows?
And we are peaceful? What the hell's going on? He
can't he can't keep running?

Speaker 7 (06:06):
Okay?

Speaker 2 (06:06):
What is going on? Heavy set? Dude? Just chasing him? Dude,
you touch me? Brof he's touching me. I don't know.

Speaker 1 (06:16):
Take his camera away, you know we I'd love to
find out who this kid is and get him on
this show. We got to find him because you're right, Greg,
he went into the belly of the beast and he
wanted to find out what they're protesting.

Speaker 2 (06:29):
Don't dual permission states and on public property. It's everything
the guy said was wrong. But the thing is he
was grabbing his camera. He was actually grabbing the kid
and then screaming, he's grabbing me. He's touching I mean,
and it's it's an adult. He's got a mask on.
He's just I'm telling you, it is a clown show
of the highest order. And when you do the geoe

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tracking of the phones, which technology can do, now, what
you find out is the most of these people are
rent to protesters. There are people that have been to
multiple rallies and really, I think you I don't know
if you get it, if we have time to tell
it first, you don't even they don't even know what
they're there. They don't they've been told Trump and they
just they have been going to enough rallies in life
since Trump showed up on the scene that all you

(07:11):
have to say is Trump, and they're there to protest Trump.
They don't even know what the specifics are. They just
don't like Trump.

Speaker 1 (07:16):
Well, David Marcos, who we've had on the show before,
he was at one of the rallies I think in
West Virginia, and he claims the average age of the
protester was seventy.

Speaker 2 (07:24):
Yeah, you know they're telling you.

Speaker 1 (07:27):
They're worried about their for one cage, right, But gen Z,
you didn't see too many gen Zers out there. Gen Z,
they know what's going on.

Speaker 2 (07:34):
Crew, we're not. We're we got a suspicious side to this.
But I'll tell you what. The boomers are the ones
that they're politicians when they were on the clock. They're
the ones that put US thirty trillion dollars in debt.
Thanks a lot. Now you're mad? Yeah, come on, list
of the clueless protesters.

Speaker 8 (07:47):
We protested today?

Speaker 9 (07:48):
Donald Trump?

Speaker 6 (07:49):
Well, what's Donald Trump doing that we're protesting?

Speaker 9 (07:51):
Well, he is not the American democracy right now and
trying to h kind of repeal a bunch in the Constitution,
like you know, rights and liberties.

Speaker 6 (08:02):
So is there anything in specific that is.

Speaker 9 (08:06):
I don't have all the information, but I hear, what
are you against?

Speaker 10 (08:11):
Personally?

Speaker 9 (08:12):
I'm against tyrants, I'm against tyranny.

Speaker 6 (08:14):
Social security.

Speaker 2 (08:15):
I also value Okay, what your social security wasn't cut right?

Speaker 7 (08:21):
Social Security wasn't cut right, being cut back right? What happened?

Speaker 5 (08:26):
So don't they want to get rid of the bureaucracy bureaucracy.

Speaker 11 (08:31):
Can you name one person in the United States who
want sole security benefits on dary Elon Musk what you
take it, I'm just.

Speaker 2 (08:37):
Getting your opinion.

Speaker 12 (08:38):
I'm getting your opinion to show solidarity with each other
for one thing, and make sure that we know that
other people feel the same way we do, to build
a movement and to let our voices be heard by
the people in power.

Speaker 1 (08:50):
You know what's so funny, Greg, with these comments from
these people, they are clueless about what's going on.

Speaker 2 (08:56):
In this I had no idea.

Speaker 1 (08:57):
They were sent to talking points, they were sent to
make signs, they were told what to put on those signs,
and they have no idea why they're protesting. But they
just show up.

Speaker 6 (09:07):
They are.

Speaker 2 (09:08):
I mean, it is pretty funny cause we understand, but
they don't. So look, our listeners are so great. We
asked we shall receive. Kid's name is Nick Shirley and
he's quite the influencer.

Speaker 6 (09:21):
Right.

Speaker 2 (09:21):
Oh, guy's got fifty three thousand ye on the show
to get him. He's he just I'm telling you, this
kid's got my full respect. You to see him there
what he did. Goodness, he is up there and he
is just out there to interview these people, and they
just come at him like it's just and I'll tell
you that it's good. I'm glad he did it, and

(09:43):
it's not to Actually, he was being respectful. He wanted
to hear what you just like a clip you just played,
tell me all about what you're so upset And people
don't really have a very strong answer back. But the
way they go after him and the way they yell
I'm being touched as they're running into him or trying
to grab his camera and then screaming that they're the
ones in any highway patrol try to come and separate him,

(10:05):
but he's like, I'm glad you're here. But the kids
got it all on video. So if they tried it,
whatever version of life they're trying to share with the
highway Utah Highway Patrol, he could show that they're clowns.
They're crazies. They are truly crazies. And I'm telling you
this is good for that kiss show me you know,
I'll show you where you go.

Speaker 1 (10:24):
Isn't it we didn't wasn't it the patron saint of
the Modern Democratic Party I'm talking about FDR. Didn't he
say the only thing we have to fear is fear itself.
And isn't that what these protesters are trying to create?

Speaker 2 (10:36):
Yep, is fear.

Speaker 1 (10:37):
All right, We've got a lot to get to today.
Great to be with you if you'd like to join
us in our conversation today eight eight eight five seven
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the Rod and Gregg Show coming up. Couldn't believe this
shaking as surprised a little bit. John Roberts today, Wow.
Justice John Roberts, chief Justice of the US Supreme Court,

(10:57):
today temporarily blocked a lower court order that would require
the Trump administration to return a Maryland manned who mistakenly
was deported to El Salvador or was he yes?

Speaker 2 (11:11):
So? And and there's another ruling today that's important in
terms of slowing down these rogue judges. But joining us
on the program right now is to talk about this
and really what's happening with this individual, this Maryland father.
You know this, this barbecuer in the backyard barbecue. D
you know that the evils government came and stole is
Bill di Augustino. He's a media editor a senior research

(11:33):
channelist from Media Research Center. Bill, thank you for joining us.
Welcome to the Rod and Greg Show.

Speaker 4 (11:39):
Absolutely thanks for having me on.

Speaker 2 (11:41):
Guys, So tell me where can you share with our listeners?
Where has the media gone wrong about this? Just this
family man who is just barbecuing in his backyard in
Maryland and then just all of a sudden, out of nowhere,
you know, ice came and just ripped him out of
his home and stuck him in El Salvador. What what
did the media get wrong in that report? Yeah, no,

(12:02):
I have no notes. That's dead accurate.

Speaker 4 (12:07):
Well, I mean, for starters, marilynd Man is a bit
of a tortured epithet for this guy, because he actually
emigrated from l Salvador here illegally in twenty eleven and
remained illegal for the entire time he was here. The
only time that he was given any relief by a
court was well, there was a long process. He first

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saw an immigration judge in twenty nineteen who determined that
he was, based on the evidence presented of the judge,
at least affiliated with MS thirteen, and that judge said,
now get him out of here. He gave him a
removal standing removal order. Then he appealed and a panel
upheld the first judge's decision. Then he got in front
of a second judge and pled an asylum claim because

(12:52):
all of his other options had been exhausted at that point,
and he was denied asylum, but given a withholding of removal.
It's called which is not the same as temporary protective status,
which says you can stay in the country for a
brief time. Withholding of removal just says we won't deport
you to this one specific country, and in his case
it was El Salvador. So the reporting is technically accurate

(13:16):
in that there was an error made. He was sent
back to the wrong country, right, so we shouldn't have
sent him to El Salvador, But any country that was
able to take him would have been perfectly valid. He's
not a legal resident, he was never a legal resident,
and he's certainly not a Maryland Well.

Speaker 1 (13:32):
As you point out in this study that you did, Bill,
CNN and MSNBC referred to Abrego Garcia, an l Salvador
and man illegal alien as a Maryland man or Maryland
father one hundred and twenty times, will identifying only well
only identifying him as an illegal alien seven times little slanted,

(13:52):
isn't it Bill?

Speaker 4 (13:55):
Yeah, And that doesn't even tell the whole story, believe
it or not. MSNBC was actually about that aspect of
it than CNM was. CNN ran thirty two different stories
about this guy, and only one of them mentioned that
he had come into the country illegally. So if you
were to take all of their coverage together, if you

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had somebody who got let's say, all of their news
from an MSNBC or CNN, that person would have a
very significant, way better than fifty to fifty chance of
believing that this was a naturalized American citizen who was
mistakenly deported, as in, he wasn't supposed to be removed
at all. That's very much not what happened.

Speaker 2 (14:36):
In fact.

Speaker 4 (14:37):
On MSNBC, the thing that they've been doing that is
really curdling my blood is they've been saying that he
was a legal resident. It started with some of the
anchors early on saying he has protected legal status, which
is not a that's not a real legal term. That's
just them kind of mealy mouthing around the withholding of

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removal and finding a term that like temporary protected status
which this guy didn't have. And I think that a
lot of their hosts started drinking their own kool aid
and kind of gaslighting each other, because by the end
of the week, we had found eleven different instances where
MSNBC hosts and guests had claimed that he was actually
legally here, that he was a legal resident, which is

(15:21):
entirely false. And I'm sure that retraction is coming post
a couple more minutes.

Speaker 3 (15:27):
Guys.

Speaker 2 (15:28):
Yeah, So the story with this guy is he's told,
you're here illegally, you have gang affiliations with a very violent,
vicious gang. MS certain, you need to go. He's got
an attorney that that doesn't like that answer, goes to
an appeals told he still has to go, goes to
that same attorney or an attorney says we're gonna keep
We're gonna give it one more bite at the apple,
and they say, fine, you have to go, but you

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don't have to go to El Salvador. You have to
go somewhere else. It sounds like the guy is guilty
of having a great attorney because the guy just kept
batting for him. But wouldn't it be Is it just
the case that he should be sent to Guantanamo or
somewhere else. I mean, I think Chief Justice Roberts put
a stay on this. You have to return him because
I don't think the United States had any plans to
return them. And then you have a bit of a standoff.

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But how do you see this resolving itself? Because I'm
a rule of la guy. You are too. If he's
not supposed to be an El Salvador, fair enough, but
he doesn't make it to come back here. So what
do you think will happen?

Speaker 4 (16:24):
Well, presumably we would, yeah, like you said, Guantanamo, or
we could just arrest him, or we could find somehow
some other country that's willing to take him. But I mean, obviously,
what makes this case particularly kind of awkward is that
El Salvador is the country that has been offering to
take a lot of our illegal aliens for US, and
that's the one country where this guy cannot be sent.

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But I mean, certainly, I think everybody was flabbergasted at
seeing a district judge mandating that a president enter into
some kind of negotiation with a foreign power, because that's
that's certainly.

Speaker 10 (17:02):
Not in her purview.

Speaker 4 (17:03):
And so of course, yeah, as you as you just
pointed out that that was obviously that kind of forced
Roberts's hand because he didn't he didn't want some kind
of constitutional crisis where the Trump administration says, we are
we're not going to obey this order because you literally
don't have the purview to issue it.

Speaker 1 (17:22):
Bill, great work on this story. Appreciate a few minutes
of your time, thanks for joining us, and enjoy the
rest of the day.

Speaker 4 (17:28):
Absolutely, thanks so much for having me on.

Speaker 1 (17:29):
Guys, thank you on our news maker line. That's billed THET.
Gstino from Media Research taking a look at this case
involving this Marilyn father, the barbecue man who mistaken Lee
was sent to El Salvador. More coming up on The
Rotten Greg Show and Utah's Talk Radio one oh five
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(17:52):
because many of them work here in Utah. Many of
them called the show. They're hard working people.

Speaker 2 (17:57):
I only like the ones that listen to The Rotten
Gregg Show. That's it, that's your test, that's my refiners fire. Okay,
if you are a listeners, then I know you're the
real deal, and I know that you're ready to take
the Pepsi challenge against any federal worker, whether they do
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to the show, you do your job. I already know it,
so you're okay with them? Yeahs, who don't listen to it,
you don't like I have a I have a jaundiced

(18:19):
I for the federal workers that are not listeners of
this program.

Speaker 1 (18:22):
Yes, well, the outrage from the federal workers is kind
of interesting, and there are some people out there, matter
of fact, are next in next guest rights that he's
glad that America's overlords are being fired. His name is
David Craig. He's joining us on our Newsmaker line. He's
from the Foundation for Government Accountability. David, Thanks for joining us.
Pretty harsh words, David, Why do you say that?

Speaker 5 (18:42):
Well, I mean, I think the bottom line is five
years ago when we were going through, uh, you know,
the COVID out break, and I was a state legislator
at the time in Wisconsin and was dealing with toundreds
of phone calls from constituents.

Speaker 6 (18:58):
You know, they're losing their.

Speaker 5 (18:58):
Businesses, they're being lockdown, uh and and there were no
there were no liberals standing up and saying, hey, like
we need to you know, to take people's uh economic.

Speaker 6 (19:07):
Security into consideration. There's civil rights into consideration. Fast forward to.

Speaker 5 (19:12):
Five years later where we are right now, and uh,
you know, the the great action that Doge is taking
care of it, the behalt of the Trump administration, the
work the President's doing, and in trying to make a
dent in right sizing the federal government that everyone knows
is bloated, that everyone knows is inefficient. Uh, now's the

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time to reflect on that and and and really show
whether or not the liberal policies of the past have
served America well or whether now is the time to
do a review of whether our bureaucracy is the right size.

Speaker 6 (19:47):
Clearly it's not.

Speaker 5 (19:48):
Uh, And to and to show that the president cares
about the economy. Uh, he cares about how the government
is performing and and the double standard that the left
has and not standing.

Speaker 6 (20:00):
Up for John Q.

Speaker 5 (20:02):
Citizen who's just trying to maybe go of it economically,
protect their protect their families, provide for them. And it's
it's this president and this Congress that are working to
make sure that we have responsible tax policy, responsible spending policy,
and have a responsive government.

Speaker 2 (20:20):
You know, I uh, I think a great example, different topic,
but just it just highlights the way that you're you're
accurately showing that the that the regime media will take
someone like this father from Maryland as if he's in
a backyard barbecue, uh and and talk about him in
ways that are supposed to draw sympathy. We have heard
the same from this media about the tariffs and the

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and the issues that President Trump has brought forward today.
I don't think the stock market closed down as I'm
looking at it right now, or if it's still open.
I mean we're looking at it being up a little
bit right now, I think from its opening score, but
it's been up and down. My point is this, these
tariffs haven't even touched the American people.

Speaker 8 (20:56):
Yet.

Speaker 2 (20:56):
We had nine percent inflation, we had we had interest
rates through the roof, we had printing money, and we
would hear the left in this media, the same media
you're talking about, talk say that, well you have money
dys morph he or you just don't know how good
you have it? If when are we going to have
a gut full of all this? But I asked this
question for a lot of our guests, where you point
out great examples, but when will we see or do

(21:19):
we see the American people seeing the straining at NATS
swallowing at Campbell's distortion of news and and and meant
to just further one side the leftist uh social agenda.

Speaker 5 (21:32):
Yeah, I mean, I think you know, My thought is
this will become self evident as the Trump As the
Trump Agenda moves into into action here, I think it
will demonstrate clearly that the hundreds of billions of dollars
in unnecessary Biden regulations, that that that.

Speaker 6 (21:53):
Really crippled the American economy.

Speaker 5 (21:55):
So the four years that he was in uh, not
only did the grow government, but you know, it's still
economic activity from the private sector and all the bad
things that overregulation does. And as the President and as
Doge are examining the federal government as it stands right now,
and they're doing this review and like I said, working
toward right sizing not only the size of government and

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its employees, but also very importantly the regulations, the type
of regulations, the severity of the regulations.

Speaker 6 (22:24):
These are all important things that at.

Speaker 5 (22:26):
The end of the day, will improve the American economy,
and that will become self evident as the president of
the gendn folds and in particular of a key I
think going forward is making sure that these changes that
the president's undergoing, that dog is undergoing, become permanent, that
Congress and acts reforms that actually put the Doge reforms

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into law, into permanency, so that another president can't come
in and undo all of this, you know, re employ
and reregulate all of the various leftist policies that this
president is tearing down.

Speaker 1 (23:01):
David, explain if you would, if you can, David, other
than those on the extreme left, I think it would
be very hard to find an American in this country
today who wouldn't say, yeah, there's waste in government, and
yeah it may be too big. But here here you
have the Democratic Party defending government in efficiency. How are
they getting away with that?

Speaker 13 (23:21):
David?

Speaker 5 (23:22):
Yeah, I mean, obviously, the the mainstream media or whatever
you want to call it, uh, formerly mainstream media as
it collapses upon itself because of the the you know,
the false pedaling that it's been doing over the last generation.
I mean, they're they're giving cover, obviously to the leftists
in Congress that are trying to be smirch. What the
president's doing what the White House is doing here. You know,

(23:45):
like I said, the facts show uh that that these
reforms are going to have a positive impact on the economy,
as Roll Reagan once said, and it's it's just so true.
As government expands, liberty contracts, and so if you take
the take the opposite of that, where government contracts, liberty
will expand, and that will help us not only from

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our personal family lives, but also importantly from an economic perspective.

Speaker 6 (24:11):
We're going to see those results and even the mainstream.

Speaker 5 (24:14):
Media, whatever you want to call it, won't be able
to deny those results.

Speaker 2 (24:18):
What's the media cycle for any of this? A man's
been in office for eleven twelve weeks. I don't know what,
but everyone doesn't. People are just wondering why everything hasn't
been fixed yet. Or I voted for him and it
hasn't happened. Even the cost of eggs were so high
when he got there, within ten minutes, it was his fault.
You're seeing that come down. You're not seeing a lot
of you know, acknowledgment of that. Give me, give me
a media cycle where this president, if he's trying to

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do hard things and break up the status quo, which
is not EASi or someone would have done it. What
kind of patience does the American people have in your mind?
Or how long of a media cycle do we have
to give this guy a runway to fulfill his campaign promises.
What do you think it looks like?

Speaker 5 (24:57):
I mean, I think the American people obviously, you know, liberals,
the media, you know, this will be a constant barrage,
you know, for the rest of the president's administration. But
the average American taxpayer fully understands the crushing debt that
our country has, the bloat that the federal government has,
the fact that we have millions about millions of federal

(25:17):
employees that that maintain their employment regardless of what happens
in the economy.

Speaker 6 (25:23):
It's a recession proof industry.

Speaker 5 (25:25):
And those individuals that are paying the bill the private sector,
they fully understand what the president needs to do. The
President continues to be very popular and what he's doing here,
and Congress is headed toward favorable policies to make sure
that the president's agenda is getting done. But again, at
the end of the day, I.

Speaker 6 (25:45):
Think the proof will be in the putting.

Speaker 5 (25:47):
We're going to see those positive results economically we already are,
and John Q Citizen fully understands that these decisions have
to be made. Our government is too big to afford
our personal freedoms and our economic freedoms have been crippled
by oversized government.

Speaker 2 (26:04):
By amen to that.

Speaker 1 (26:05):
David Craig joining us on our Newsmaker Line, Legal director
for the Foundation for Government Accountability. I don't know if
you've seen this poll over the weekend, but there's a
new poll out about what the American people think of
Donald Trump's tariffs. Kind of interesting results. We'll talk about
that coming up here on the Rod and Greg Show.
Like we said, what Greg has been four working days?

(26:25):
Is that right Wednesday?

Speaker 3 (26:26):
Third?

Speaker 6 (26:27):
Three?

Speaker 2 (26:27):
So Wednesday he announced it after the close, about.

Speaker 1 (26:30):
Three and a half working days, maybe three point Thursday, Friday,
quarter working days Monday, you know, and everybody is in panic.
At least the legacy media and some investors on Wall
Street are in panic over what's going on. I don't
think the American people are. As a matter of fact,
the Americans over the weekend delivered a shock verdict on

(26:50):
the President's tariffs and exclusive daily mail polls surveyed one
thousand registered voters. It was conducted from March thirty first
to April third, which would have been right during that time,
found that the Republican remains largely, very very popular. The
poll found that Trump's approval rating rose to fifty three percent,

(27:13):
a four percent increase over last week.

Speaker 2 (27:15):
Yes, there you go, because it's Main Street not Wall Street.
Folks like that. When when did occupy Wall Street where
the Democrats were all saying, you know, Wall Street's all
the money grubbers. When did the Democrats become you know,
Wall Street's you know, rented mule to, you know, just
take around and do their bidding and cry for them
instead of Main Street, which is where we'd like to

(27:36):
see things improve vastly.

Speaker 1 (27:38):
Well, the president, the president, there was a report out
I think it may have been yesterday or last night
that the administration was thinking about backing down from the
from the teriffs. Who is the the investor that we're
always talking about. Acman, Oh, Bill Ackman. Bill Ackman suggested
he take a ninety day pause. Donald Trump is not
going to pause on this. You keep the pressure on

(28:01):
and you get results. And I think that's what he's doing. Yes,
And he told Americans over the weekend just hang with me, folks,
I told you ahead of time there may be a
little bump in the road here, but hang with me,
because these are going to work. And what have we
seen greg country after country announcing that they're now willing
to sit down and talk to the President and his
team about going you know, nothing for nothing.

Speaker 2 (28:22):
Yeah, yeah, No, there's so much response, There's so many
there's clips we can play now, we can play them
later in the show. I'm going to tell you that
that this is You've got to give this guy some runway.
You've got to give him time. I mean, I mean,
you've got Secretary of Descent that says that fifty sixty
almost seventy countries are reached out to say, look, we
understand what you're saying. I have a clip here from

(28:42):
Benjamin mettan Yahoo talking about other issues. You want to
play that, want me to play that clip? Let me
get set go Okay, let me play this right here.
This is him talking about the trade. Devil said, this
is Israel right now. This is a this is a
pretty strong pivot. Let's listen. This was said today.

Speaker 8 (28:58):
I can tell you that I said to the president
of a very simple thing, we will eliminate the trade
deficit with the United States.

Speaker 6 (29:07):
We intend to do it very quickly.

Speaker 8 (29:09):
We think it's the right thing to do. And we're
able to also eliminate trade barriers, a variety of trade
barriers that have been put up unnecessarily, and I think
this will conserve as a model for many countries who
are to do the same. I recognize the position of
the United States. It says, you know, we allow other

(29:31):
countries to put tariffs on us, but we don't put
tariffs on them. And you know, I'm a free trade champion,
and free trade has to be fair trade. And I
think that's basically the position that you have put forward,
mister President. And we are going to eliminate the tariffs
and rapidly.

Speaker 2 (29:50):
You saying it all. I mean, he's making the United
States argument for them. When has a president shown the
kind of leadership where you would bring ahead of state
in like Benjamin net y'allhoo, who makes America's case for
America and says, you were absolutely right, mister president, and
we are going to do this quick and we're going
to get this right.

Speaker 1 (30:06):
Vietnam, yep, the EU, Taiwan yesterday, Taiwan, all of a
sudden look, who's stepping up the president and he's hanging tough.
I'm with the president, don't negotiate, hang tough. Let's see
what happens here. And I think that's what he's counting
on as well.

Speaker 2 (30:21):
Yeah, it's it's again what you're seeing as a brand
of leadership we haven't seen in that White House. All right,
we've got a lot to get to.

Speaker 1 (30:30):
More to come on the Monday edition of The Route
and Greg shild stay with us.

Speaker 3 (30:39):
All right.

Speaker 1 (30:40):
We were before we talked about the tariffs, and we've
got some sound bites we want to play and talk
about this.

Speaker 3 (30:46):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (30:47):
A long time Trump critic Bill Maher went to the
White House last week, remember that, Greg, He had a
guest dinner of lunch with the President. It was set
up by Kid Rock, right, and everybody was wondering. He
didn't say anything about meeting, and we've all been wondering
what he's going to say about it. Well, apparently he
said some things that aren't going to make liberals very happy.

Speaker 6 (31:07):
Now.

Speaker 1 (31:08):
I don't know if he did his show this weekend
because his Real Time with Bill Marshaw, but he did
do his podcast with Chris Cuomo listen to what he
had to say about one Donald Trump.

Speaker 14 (31:18):
Trump really interested is one of the most effective politicians,
whatever you think of the policy and him as a person,
just as a politician, just understanding that always lean.

Speaker 6 (31:31):
In to being more who you are.

Speaker 14 (31:34):
The people are not savvy about issues, but they smell
a phony a mile away, and that kind of nobody
else does it.

Speaker 13 (31:45):
You know.

Speaker 14 (31:45):
There's a couple of times when I mean, I've been
his biggest critic for good reason, and when he got reelected,
I said, I'm not going to pre hate anything. And
then the first week I said, well, there's lots of
things I hate because as I do. Okay, there's some
things I don't hate also, but the way he can

(32:06):
do that and sometimes kind of make me.

Speaker 6 (32:10):
Go, oh, man, I got to give it up.

Speaker 14 (32:14):
Like when he did that thing where the guy came
in from the Taliban and he said, this is an
aerial picture of your house if during our withdrawal when
American is hurt, just now I know where you live.
I was like, oh, can we just play the music now,
because I don't care. It's Donald Trump and he's the

(32:34):
worst person ever. Blah blah blah. I love that one.
Time they were doing something, something was going on, and
he said, you know what, when you come after New York,
you gotta go through me. It's like, oh, hometown boy.
You know, he has those moments that no other politician has.
And the Democrats have to find that guy.

Speaker 1 (32:56):
And I don't think they can find that guy because
they don't have anybody out there, Greg who is authentic
as I think Donald Trump is. I mean, for him
for him to call Trump the most effective politician he's
seen in quite some time is a great compliment.

Speaker 2 (33:12):
Well, I'll give you a great example. I was watching
the the presser that Donald Trump had at the White
House with Benjamin Netahu and taking questions from the reporters,
and one was about the hostages that still remained that
Hamas is holding. And then Trump shared with the with
the media hostages that he had brought to the White

(33:33):
House to talk to them that had been rescued or
been released, and he'd had them at the White House.
And he said, you know, I asked him, were they
ever nice? Did they ever just wink or whisper tea
it's going to be okay, or did they ever show
any compassion in any way? And they would say no,
they wouldn't. And he goes and I'll tell you, they
all seem very healthy. But there's no way they're going
to be They're not carrying this as baggage in their life.

(33:55):
There's no way this didn't hurt. But what I took
away from that is how inquisitive of a person asked
did they did they ever show an ounce of humanity?
Did he did they ever wink at you or just
say it's gonna be okay and whisper after after you've
been there for so long as a prisoner, as a hostage,
And and for him to ask them that question I
thought was a really personal It wasn't it wasn't just

(34:16):
a photo op, and it wasn't just a here I
am with the hostages. They're rescued. He really wanted to
know and wanted to understand what their experience was like
and are these people do they have any semblance of
humanity about him? And he reported back to the in
this press uh you know, at this press conference, that
they didn't that. The people said no, they were, they were.
They would slap them and they said they were just
that the hatred and the venom towards them never slowed down,

(34:39):
It never got less, it was the same. But I
just thought, that is a conversation he's having with a
press but really to the American people about people that
had been hostages and what they lived through. That's such
a It would take such a unique president or a
leader to ask those to think, to ask those questions
and then to be comfortable enough to share them in
a very casual way during the press conference.

Speaker 1 (35:01):
Well, this goes to, uh, you're aware of the controversy
surrounding sixty minutes and Leslie Stall last week where she
talked to an Israeli hostage who'd been released, and she
talked about what they did to them, and he said
they would starve us for days. And Leslie Saw comes
back and says, well, maybe they didn't have any food
to give you. Are you kidding me? But you're right.

(35:26):
This is what the Democrats have not figured out about
Donald Trump. He is who he is. Like him or
hate him whatever. He doesn't change, and he does have
I think he has a very soft heart. You've seen
that sometimes. But he also has you know, like you
said at the Dodgers news conference today, there are two
California senators there, including one Adam Shift. He says, I'm

(35:47):
not going to introduce him because I don't.

Speaker 2 (35:49):
Like him, and everybody laughed. He's like, I didn't think
that was that big of a deal, because it's pretty
obvious those centaters don't like him as well. But you
have to juxtapose what we just said about this the
authenticity of this president, Bill Maher pointing it out, and
he's a critic of the President, but us just what
he had shared with the public today. And then take

(36:09):
that clown show of these protests over the weekend, where
they're not the rich elite that are funding it and
giving them the bill, the signs to use. They're not
even hiding it. They're putting, you know, Indivisible Project on there.
They're actually bragging that they're the Democrat, leftist nonprofit NGO
types that are funding and fueling all of this. They're

(36:31):
not even hiding that fact. But it is all so contrived.
When you ask one protester why you're here, they can't
tell you anything deeper than I hate Trump. They don't
know why they're there. Get some are getting paid, some
are just sheeple, but they don't know why they're there.
That is that is astro turf that is artificial. That
is a Democrat party that doesn't know how to do
anything but tear down, but really has nothing authentic to

(36:54):
share by way of vision with the people.

Speaker 1 (36:56):
Yeah, well, let's talk about the tariffs we've been I'm
talking about that. There was a a great post on
Mark penn You know how Mark pen Is, He was
a polster for the Clinton campaign and the Clinton years,
very you know, and he's a regular guest now on
Fox News. But he posted this over the weekend. I'll
read a portion of it.

Speaker 6 (37:13):
Greg.

Speaker 1 (37:14):
He says, get a grip Wall Street. Okay, And he
goes on say, we only import I didn't know this.
We only import eleven percent of our economy. I thought
it was much higher than that, But only eleven percent
of our economy. And a twenty percent tariff on half
of all imports is only about one percent added to

(37:35):
the cost to that product. One percent as to the cost.
He goes on to say, less than a fraction the
impact of sales tax in virtually every state. And these
tariffs are often on selected components rather than finish good.
So he ended up said, look it, America, Remember has
the most adaptable resilient and innovative economy in the world.

(37:58):
So get over it, Wall Street and get a grip
on it.

Speaker 2 (38:01):
That's right. I'll tell you if you if you, if
you like buy a lot of shrimp, you like your
avocado toast, and you like wine and spirits. Yeah, you
might feel a lot more than the average person. But
I'm telling you this is not like nine percent inflation.
This isn't like our interest rates doubling overnight or being
making it impossible to even pursue home ownership. This is

(38:22):
a very different thing. And the people that are crying
about this really aren't. Isn't main street. Wall Street is
not main Street as much as they want to convince you,
as much as the media. Somehow, the regime media and
the Democrats have become honks for the for Wall Street
is not main Street America. And I'm telling you that
this this economy is resilient enough. Let me tell you
here's here's something that went down. Listen to this, Can

(38:43):
I I have time for a little clip road real quick? Yes?
Right here? Listen Listen to uh gentleman pain He's I
think he's on Charles Parks News. Yeah, Fox News. Listen
to what he has to say about what wasn't reported
that Main Street might like by way of news economic
news this last week.

Speaker 15 (39:01):
What we're not talking about is oil was seventy six
dollars now sixty five. Gasoline prices are going to plummet
any other time, that would be the number one story.

Speaker 2 (39:09):
Of fact if you go to the polls, what will get.

Speaker 15 (39:11):
You elected as president? Much cheaper gasoline or Wall Street crying.
I'm just being honest about it, right, So, Yeah, people
have these stocks in there for one case, and guess
what we've been through it. There's a correction on average
every year. There's a bear market every couple of years.
I think most people are accustomed to that.

Speaker 2 (39:29):
So and look it's what this self correct. What this
correction looks like is what the market was at last
year at this time, and then today what happened today? Well,
that's that crazy loon Jim Kramer. What's he on CNBC?
He's always wrong for summery. Everybody thinks this guy is
some economic guru. He was predicting this Black Monday, the

(39:52):
crash that was going to come. It was just going
to be it was going to be a complete wipeout.
What happened. Now it says that Nasdak closed up, SMB
five hundred closed at down zero point two percent in
the Dow less than one percent today. That's not a
black Monday, Jim Kramer. I don't think so. Even the
weeping and whaling of Wall Street can't even last a day.

(40:14):
And look, if it goes up or down. Give this
president and his administration time to realign. We are realigning
our trade partnerships with the world. We are the we
buy everybody's everything. Well, we have some negotiating power with
that of which we've never leveraged, we've never used, and
this president wants to do it. Let the man cook,
I say, let the man cook.

Speaker 1 (40:36):
We want to get to your phone calls on this.
As you've heard the news over the weekend. Maybe you've
taken a look at your four oh one k I
did over the weekend. You know what it's doing just fine.
We'd like to hear from you. Eight eight eight five
seven o eight zero one zero. Give us call. As
we talk about the tariffs on the Rodin Greg show.
A couple of days, some people are calling it panic.
The President had warned us before, he said, look, there
could be a bump or two in the road. Don't panic,

(40:58):
Hang with me. We will we will straighten this out.
And I think it was his Treasury secretary over the weekend,
greg who brought up the Bessett I think is his name,
But I said, look, we have had an economy and
a stock market that in many ways has depended on
federal spending. Federal spending that we all admit has been

(41:19):
completely out of control.

Speaker 2 (41:20):
Right.

Speaker 1 (41:21):
Donald Trump is trying to get us off that federal
nitty okay, and get us on main street, main street America,
private industry, private enterprise. And that's the challenge. And that's
why I think, you know you you bring up the
stock market, I think it is sixty two percent. The
figure could be a little bit higher. Of American's own

(41:41):
stock today. Okay, that's about one hundred and sixty two
million people own stock today. But of that stock, fifty
percent of the stock is owned by eight percent of
the population. Fifty percent of the stock. You got better stock.
I've seen different numbers.

Speaker 2 (41:57):
Yeah, I have stats that say the up ten percent
of Americans owe eighty eight percent. I thought, yeah, the
next forty percent of Americans own twelve percent. The remaining
fifty percent have only debt. They don't have any assets
at all, They don't have they only have debt.

Speaker 1 (42:14):
So is it the elite that's driving this because they
don't like Donald Trump?

Speaker 2 (42:17):
Sure, it's insult to injury that you could shut down
this entire economy over over a virus that had a
ninety nine point seven percent survival rate, and you could
shut down this everybody's jobs, millions upon millions of people's jobs, livelihoods,
without pause, without without any sympathy at all, that you
could have, you know, an economy with nine percent inflation,

(42:40):
five dollars gasoline interest rates that keep you from being
able to be a homeowner whatsoever. And the Democrats in
the left wouldn't even acknowledge that these were economic factors.
They said, we have such a strong economy. You're just
ignorant if you don't know how good you have it.
And so for them to be so callous for so
long over the last this bidonomics, which was the worst

(43:01):
that we've lived through since Jimmy Carter, to then take
this time where these terrors haven't been hit yet and
look and act as if there's been some catastrophe that's
happened it is just I just hope that the American
people see this for what it is, and it's theatrics,
it's performative politics. It's not real, and it's not gonna
harm us. But if we are that strong of a

(43:22):
buyer of everybody of the world's junk, of the world's stuff, okay,
let's start using the lever of our buying power. And
thank goodness, we have a president that's not susceptible to
this kind of attack, and we'll do it right.

Speaker 1 (43:34):
Well, I've heard this saying used in football before, all
gas and no breaks, and that's what Donald Trump is doing.
Pedal to the metal, baby, and he is not going
to back down. And guess what You've already had countries.
We've talked about Vietnam, We've talked about Taiwan, we've talked
about India, Israel today when that's in yahou In town,
and we're ready to negotiate. We're ready to eliminate this

(43:54):
even now, are you ready for this? Hang on manti
all because the price is right on this one. Even
the europe and Union today said, you know, maybe we
should talk.

Speaker 16 (44:03):
We stand ready to negotiate with the United States. Indeed,
we have offered zero for zero tariffs for industrial goods,
as we have successfully done with many other trading partners,
because Europe is always ready for a good deal, so
we keep it on the table, but we are also
prepared to respond through countermeasures and defend our interests.

Speaker 1 (44:25):
And then you have another world leader. This is the
Prime Minister of the United Kingdom, Greg Keir Starmer. He's
ready to admit that he understands the rationale behind what
Donald Trump is doing. According to report the center Left,
Starmer announced on Sunday that he understands the reason why
the economic nationalist framework imposed by the President's tariff is

(44:47):
popular with voters. While arguing that tariffs are still wrong,
he admitted that, you know, he's ready to talk. He said,
he's done something that we don't agree with, but there
is a reason why people are behind him. The American
people understand this, they know what's going on here, and
they're they're supporting the president pull out. Over the weekend,
fifty three percent of the American people support Donald Trump's tariffs.

(45:10):
But you've got the legacy media, the elites on Wall Street,
the Democrats, Oh this guy is falling. Hang with us, folks,
you know, it's.

Speaker 2 (45:17):
On ladies there. You know, there's a magazine in the
swamp called The Hill and the Hills with all the
you know, the staffers and the lobbyists. They all read
The Hill. Well, here's the headline in the Hill to day. Okay,
it's this morning, China accuses us of bullying with t tariffs. Well,
I will just say this. The day we see China
crying and whining that they're being bullied, I think we're

(45:39):
over the target. I think that's a very good day
for the United States because I don't think there's very
many occasions where China whimpers and wines that they are
being bullied by anyone. Everybody gets bullied by that country nowadays.
And you talk about pedal of the metal. I mean
with Mark Levin, he doesn't just he he has a
montage he starts a s show this weekend where he says,

(46:02):
we have we have slashing of government waste, we have
shrinking of the departments, the lowering of departments. We have
a tax base that it not only wants to make
sure we don't raise the taxes he cut in seventeen,
but he's looking at other taxes to cut. He is
not just pedal the metal, all gas on realigning our
trade partnerships. At the same time, it's the tax relief

(46:24):
that he is pursuing for the American people. It's the
the deregulation, it's the slashing of government waste and government
you know, robbing of the public treasury. He's doing it
all at once. I keep hearing. I really wish we
could have got the tax plan done first. You know
what he's doing at all right now? The Senates, the
Senate sent over to the House, their their their tax plan.
The House didn't like it much. They're going to talk,

(46:46):
they're going to work it out. But we're doing it
all at once. He's doing it all at once, and
that's something we have not seen out of a president
that I know of, And that's it's all good to me.

Speaker 1 (46:55):
How many of you listeners to the Rod and Greg
show right now are panicking? We'd like to hear from
you eight five seven eight zero one zero, or maybe
not panicking eight eight eight five seven zero eight zero
one zero, or on your cell phone dial Pound two fifteen,
say hey, Rod, we'll get to your calls coming up
on the Monday afternoon edition. Other rotting Gregg show. All right,
we're taking your calls. We're wondering where you are on

(47:17):
this whole tariff thing. The President announced Sunday or Wednesday afternoon,
so I'm talking about three three and a half days, right,
But you think the world is falling apart? Panic on
Wall Street. Panic for some Republicans can't believe that. Panic
of course for Democrats on all of this. As you
hear more and more about what the President is trying
to do and bring back America or to make America

(47:40):
a company, a country that actually makes things, now, what
are your thoughts on this? A lot of people saying panic,
other are going it's not a big deal. Eight eight
eight five seven eight zero one zero on your cell
phone dial pound two to fifteen. Say hey, Ron, let's go.

Speaker 2 (47:54):
To our great listeners. Let's go to Read in Salt
Lake City. Read, thank you for holding. Welcome to the
Rodding Gregg Show. What do you make of all this? Read?

Speaker 13 (48:03):
Hey, Rod and Greg. My point on this is I'm
trilled about it. And let me tell you why. I
work has worked in Canada in Montreal for a company
called CAAE. Actually I don't work for them, but we
partnered up and there have been times. There was one
time I went across, went to their customs, told them
I was sold the engineer with CAE. This is I'm

(48:25):
not making this up. They literally put me in kind
of a holding area that was gated and locked me
in the security like I was some kind of a threat.
And I said, what is going on? And they said, well,
don't be belligerent, and they got pretty upset with me
by the time I finally got my hearing. They said,
we believe that all engineering works should be done by
Canadian nationals and I.

Speaker 7 (48:46):
Said, I.

Speaker 13 (48:49):
Say that, I mean I'm not enforcing myself. It was
part of the contract. I had to threaten them to
call the company. The company was great, by the way.
It was just the Canadian government. I said, I I
know the people that hit people there over They were
just off the airport in Montreal. I said, I'll call them.
I'll let them contact you, and so they read me
the Riot Act and then let me go. One other

(49:11):
two other quick instances, we had to have some material
shipped up part of the contract. They held it in customs.
I ended up having to go pay a quote unquote
fee to get it out. So anybody who says Canada's
are best friends. And I thought, NaSTA mccu, whatever it
is that we didn't have TIFFs in the trade were good.
They're not so good. Good for Trump. It's about time

(49:34):
we exposed some of this ridiculous garbage they put on us.

Speaker 1 (49:38):
Read let me ask you this question, because you're back
and forth in Canada, were dealing with Canada. Here's so
many people in this country say why are we picking art?
Are good friends in Canada? They are so great to
work with. When you hear that read, what's your reaction doing?

Speaker 6 (49:53):
Well?

Speaker 13 (49:53):
Well after I call them down and stop throwing things,
I say say, with friends like Canada, who needs enemy exactly?

Speaker 2 (50:03):
You're right, you know again our listeners, they're the smartest
listening eyes all the world. We literally have someone who's
been held at a border check at a port of
entry because he's an engineer and we don't want engineer.
We don't want from an American engineers here, we want Canadians.
I'm going to tell you that if you get the
eyes on the ground, this is what he is doing
is long overdue. And even I've heard, well, you know

(50:25):
they have a zero teriff on dairry up to a
certain amount. That amount amounts to nothing. It's to the
farmers that are right next to the border, and no
industry of of of dairy would even invest in going
into a country that hasn't otherwise. As soon as you
hit that artificial you're done duty free. That's very small.
Then you pay two hundred and seventy five percent tariff.
Nobody's playing that game. That's as big of a barrier

(50:47):
as anything else. So thank you read for the comment. Yeah,
let's go to let's continue, Let's go to Jim. Let's
go to Jim in Salt Lake City. Jim, Welcome to
the Rodd and Greg Show.

Speaker 3 (50:58):
Yeah, as I stated before, every day is Christmas. President
Donald Trump. Yes, it's so great. It's so great.

Speaker 13 (51:08):
Now.

Speaker 3 (51:08):
Uh, the last guy talked about other countries. What I
want to talk about a little bit are government workers
who are complaining and saying, no, we shouldn't be doing this.
Was there even one government worker that you can think
of that missed his paycheck during COVID?

Speaker 2 (51:28):
Not Bravo, Yes, I didn't know more railing.

Speaker 3 (51:37):
No, not one government worker missed their paycheck during COVID.
And it just made me sick because all of these
entrepreneurs who were who were doing things with their own
money were losing their businesses. I for one, would have
gone crazy had I not sold my business earlier. And

(52:00):
and they have no room to complain because they don't
understand the economy at all. They're just stupid people who
think that they know what is right and what everybody
else should do.

Speaker 2 (52:15):
Yeah, you're right, Jim, you make a very good point.
And it inflicted businesses like you can't believe. And even
if you did the payroll and you try to do
something to mitigate your losses, none of this was holding
keeping you whole. All of it was just trying to survive.
If you owned apartments, people didn't have to pay rent,
but your mortgage for your property was still doe. The
banks still expected you to pay on time. And I'll
tell you what. There were so many consequences in these governments. Democrats,

(52:39):
government workers. They never they, if anything, you were the problem,
if you weren't ready to shut everything down for COVID.
So yeah, that's a good point.

Speaker 1 (52:48):
Good point. I don't know if you saw this earlier. Today,
I was watching Fox Soon's Getting Ready for the show,
and our good friend Steve Moore was on and is
his democratic counterpoint. I don't remember his name, but they
always have a good discussion. The third member of that
panel today was a rancher. I believe he was from Illinois.
I may be wrong on that.

Speaker 2 (53:06):
But he didn't.

Speaker 1 (53:07):
He's on panicking and he said, look in the cattle business,
in the farming business, we're used to uping downs. We're
used to things going high. Going low doesn't bother us.
We roll with it. And he says, that's what America
needs to do. Donald Trump is right. They just need
to roll with what the president is trying to do
right now and we'll be just fine.

Speaker 2 (53:26):
It is this idea that he had three business days
to completely realign the trading partnerships of the United States
with the world is just when you say it out loud,
it sounds as ludicrous as it is. It's just not realistic.
That's right. You can always go to the podcast that's
put online after on the app after the show's over,
and then you can go back and check out the
parts you missed.

Speaker 1 (53:46):
There you go if you missed, Yeah, if you miss
if you miss you should miss any of the show.
But just in cage, you get distracted a little bit,
but if you want to hear twice, if you don't
want to hear twice, or maybe mister Hughes has made
a compelling point that you want to go back and
make sure he said dead, which he did, is on
the podcast all right. I don't get a sense, Greg,
with our great audience that there's a lot of panic

(54:08):
going on out there, do you. I think most people
are cheering on the president.

Speaker 2 (54:11):
Not only that, but every time we go to these callers,
I learned something about whatever issue we're talking about from
someone's front row seat to it. I thought that call
from Read about how he was dealing with in Canada
was quite the eye open. And I don't think that's
a silver bullet we saw fly by. It's never happened
before except for this one listener of ours, that it

(54:32):
happened to it means it happened so frequently we have
those that have had that terrible experience. Let's go back
to the phones. Let's go to Dan in Salt Lake City. Dan,
thank you for holding. Welcome to the Rotting Greg Show.

Speaker 7 (54:44):
Hey, I gotta tell you I am extremely optimistic and
i'll tell you why. Educated in economics, and I got
to explain two or three small things and you'll understand why.

Speaker 10 (54:56):
First of all, when a dollar.

Speaker 7 (55:00):
Is in the private sector goes through the economy, it
travels through the economy six point two times a year.
And let's assume that we've got a ten percent tax rate.
So now the treasury takes in sixty two cents for
every dollar you know, uh, in the year when it
goes through the government's greedy little hands and USAID and

(55:22):
all that stuff, it actually travels two point four times
a year, so we have twenty four cents moving into
the treasury of government spend money. So you know, any
knucklehead conceived that. That's why. You know, when Reagan dropped
a taxes, why when the Trump tax cuts happened, all
of a sudden, there was a boom into the treasury.

Speaker 6 (55:43):
But all the.

Speaker 7 (55:44):
Politicians know this. So anyway, let's move on to the
next one.

Speaker 2 (55:48):
Great point, even Kennedy tax cuts to the exactly as
you say.

Speaker 7 (55:53):
Yeah, anyway, then we take a look at regulations, and
this is why you know Trump's saying, hey, look all
we do is, you know, we kill a trillion dollars
of bad spending and the economy will take care of itself.
Biden put on eight hundred billion dollars worth of regulations
that he.

Speaker 6 (56:10):
Threw into the economy.

Speaker 7 (56:12):
Wow, one point three trillion dollars goes to reports and
nonsense that the government has to have in regulations of
every size, shape and form. You cut that down to
five hundred billion, and all of a sudden, you've had
eight hundred billion dollars that can once again circulate through
the economy six point two times a year. Again, because
that's money that's all handled, you know, through the private sector,

(56:36):
and then and then to tariffs and all that stuff.
China is in the middle of a population collapse. They've
got the oldest they've got the oldest population in the
world by a long ways, and they have nobody to

(56:57):
replaced them. The replacement is like lefs than one. There
are estimates that China is going to have a population
of five hundred billion, No, yeah, five hundred million. No,
five hundred billion, be lot five hundred million by twenty fifty.
They're in the throes of a collapse, and whether they

(57:17):
want to admit it or not, their party's over. That's
why they're scratching coonso bad, trying to maintain because the CCP.
The biggest fear that they've got is they're going to
lose power. And when five hundred billion people all of
a sudden, they're all, you know, out of work and
the economies you know in the toilet, CCP is done. Anyway.
That's why I'm optimistic. And one other thing, there's one

(57:41):
hundred and fifty million people between the millennials and Gen
Z that are coming into their spending years. In other words,
the Baby Bloomers had eighty million of the richest people
that the planet's ever known. And look what happened, and
they retired, and they started retiring in two thousand and eight.

(58:07):
What happened in two thousand.

Speaker 6 (58:09):
And eight.

Speaker 7 (58:11):
The Baby Boomers quit spending money. And that's what happened anyway.

Speaker 2 (58:18):
So Dan can blame it.

Speaker 7 (58:19):
One hundred and fifty million people that are going into
the richest part of their lifetimes between the Millennials and
Gen X. The millennials have been there for about ten years,
which is why we didn't have a recession. By the way,
we got people spending money that it's impossible to happen anyway.
So that's why I'm so optimistic, because we've got that
many people and if we straighten out the economy and

(58:40):
quit given everything away to everybody, it really.

Speaker 6 (58:43):
Is going to be the Golden Age.

Speaker 7 (58:45):
And it's it's a it's a math problem, that's all
it is. Nothing can stop it.

Speaker 2 (58:50):
What great insight, Dan, Thank you so much for that.
You're right that is supply is supply side one oh
one in terms of dollars KEP dollars invested in the economy.
More of the money that we have, we make the
economy stronger. It's not what government spends. It's never been
what the balance sheet or budget looks like that a
government creates that that dictates how much economic success or
not people have. It's it's a it's a wishless frankly

(59:13):
of what you want. Dan is exactly right in terms
of when people are making money and they're spending, that's
how this economy drives. And we are in the we
are as a country should be at least in the
driver's seat. And Donald Trump recognizes that. And now it's
time to have that make those hard decisions.

Speaker 1 (59:28):
You know, I didn't even think about what Dan mentioned
about China, but they've had a what is it, one
child per family policy for how long yea, look what
it's doing to him. Now, that's an interesting point. You
were going to blame me for the mess, weren't you. Well,
you're going to blame me for all this country.

Speaker 2 (59:44):
Baby boomers are in these things, give you know, take
hands off rallies. And then they went and all the politicians.

Speaker 1 (59:50):
Out there this weekend. I wasn't out there this week
No liberal John Liberal John may have been. There might
have been. I got family and p it might have been.
I'm just saying that there's a collect there's the baby
boomers had a really good and now they're just all
turning on the rest of us. So you need to
put out a memo to your peeps, tell them of us. Yeah,

(01:00:11):
it's you Gen excerpts. You guys are just angry now.
The gen z ors now realize the situation that they're facing,
and they're supporting Donald Trump.

Speaker 2 (01:00:19):
I know first first your generation that they've ever pulled,
that's gone the right of center. I love it. I
love it.

Speaker 1 (01:00:24):
All Right, we've got a lot more to get to.
Another hour coming your way. You head home on this
Monday with aronnic Greg Show, and stay with us.

Speaker 2 (01:00:40):
You know, we we've been going over all the all
the deats, all the all the things happening, we got
rogue judges that are getting rained in, We've got we've
got a crazy hands off of we want more government.
We don't hands off of waste, fraud.

Speaker 1 (01:00:54):
Hands government because we love our government. They don't spend wastefully,
spend our money. They're just in it for us. And
leave your hands off at Donald Trump and Elon Musk,
and we'll dare you.

Speaker 2 (01:01:04):
And with the left, it turns out occupy Wall Street
as occupy Wall Street four and on behalf of Wall Street.
Whatever Wall Street needs, we're here for you, Democrat, you know,
efforts and and and with in regards to tariffy.

Speaker 1 (01:01:16):
So, by the way, we don't know what we're talking about,
but we have been provided talking points and we have
provided what to put on our signs.

Speaker 2 (01:01:23):
So we're real protests. So we all we know is
that we just don't like Tom Donald Trump. That's that's
kind of our cost. The commentator out here, Yeah, that's true.
So we've been so we've run the gamut today. But
here's an issue that's come up on our program over
and over, and we've touched on it a little bit.
We've dipped our toe in. But this is going to
be a fascinating discussion we have joining us on the show.
John Saylor is the director of Higher Education Policy, Senior

(01:01:45):
Fellow at the Manhattan Institute. Very interesting article that came
out in the City Journal about we've talked about curriculum.
We've talked about you know, the the classical education versus
some of these crazy identity you know, identity politics, you know,
curriculum or classes. Our guest is going to tell us
why we why is it we see so much of

(01:02:07):
this in our universities. There is a little there might
be a common thread to all of it. Joining us
As I said on shows, John Sailor, John, thank you
for joining us on the Rodd and Greg show.

Speaker 10 (01:02:18):
Yeah, thanks so much for having me.

Speaker 2 (01:02:19):
John.

Speaker 1 (01:02:19):
Let's talk about what you've done as far as finding
out who is who is the money who? Well, you
know they always say just follow the money. You decided
to follow the money on the radical activists and higher education.

Speaker 2 (01:02:30):
What'd you find?

Speaker 6 (01:02:31):
John?

Speaker 10 (01:02:33):
So, what I found in general is that universities have
not only created a context where a lot of professors
professed very radical views, but what I found through my
investigative series written for City Journal is that universities have

(01:02:56):
actually worked hard to create a what you can refer
to as a pipeline for scholars who share an activist
vision for higher education and who view what they do
as professors as a tool for a kind of activism.
And now, as I was doing my research and reporting

(01:03:18):
on this story about how all these universities were creating
special fellowships, and it starts with undergraduates, and it goes
to post doctoral fellows, and they have special ways to
get fellows into faculty positions and even bypass people who
might object to these sort of politicized figures on the faculty,

(01:03:39):
and even into administrator positions. What I noticed is there's
a common thread and one of the common threads was
funding from none other than the Andrew Mellon Foundation. This
is the foundation established by you know, Andrew Mellon, the
former Treasury Segregar Harry under Calvin Coolidge, the Industrial List

(01:04:03):
whose legacy now is you know his namesake, is largely
injecting identity politics into our university across the country. It's
really a remarkable story.

Speaker 2 (01:04:15):
So classes like racial Justice and Abolition Democracy, Project Black
Queer Everything, Race in the Global pass through native lenses,
these types of shows. Here, your classes are curriculum. Here's
my question. I'm looking at the numbers, the dollar amounts
that this foundation, this Melon Foundation is giving, and yeah,

(01:04:37):
University of California's a system gets fifteen million, But a
lot of these numbers are just paid to play to
keep this pipeline going. It's not big giant numbers two
point four million, five million. There has to be another
hook because those dollars alone can't be enough to steer
an entire university. John, what what is also happening? There

(01:04:57):
has to be some other This money is a prettyiched
This might be the catalyst, but what else is going
on to get our university so radically to the left
end of this any politics game?

Speaker 10 (01:05:09):
You know, I think that's a really good question, and
I think that, uh, you know, there are just a
lot of a lot of answers to it. And so,
like I said, I've been working on a series on
how university faculty, uh you know, have been recruited in
this way and are are are sort of primed to
toward activism. That's not just a matter of the Mellon Foundation,

(01:05:34):
uh other other factors way in so, uh, the the
DEI Revolution. One of the things that I think was
most significant about that was not necessarily the course requirements
or the existence of DEI offices. You know, those are
those are significant policies, But what what really seems to

(01:05:57):
matter the most, based on what I have seen, is
hiring policy. Because what universities have consistently done is they said,
we are going to require for all of our faculty
when they are hired, for them to write a statement
on their commitment to diversity, equity and inclusion. And they

(01:06:19):
in many cases across the countries, universities have heavily weighed
those statements in their evaluation of faculty. Now what does
that mean. That means that even if you erase a
DEI office, you still have a faculty that has been
built up over many years screening out anyone who might

(01:06:40):
object to this vague, flowery sounding concept of diversity, equity
and inclusion. So it's basically a way to screen out
dissenting voices conservative classical liberals, even if they don't mean
to do it. That's the net effect. So you have
this kind of compounding effect where assenting voices are screened

(01:07:01):
out on one side, and then you have special initiatives
that are funded by people like groups like the Melon Foundation.
I'll say that the federal government has also been heavily
involved in this. Yes, I wrote just a little before
the National Science Foundation, the NIH. They've poured millions of

(01:07:25):
dollars into this kind of uh, kind of hiring mechanism
that basically injects its identity politics into the way that
faculty are selected, and not just humanity's faculty, but also scientists,
medical scientists, virologists, the biologists. It's it's it's remarkable.

Speaker 1 (01:07:44):
John, was the original intent of the Mellon Foundation? Was
its original intent or mission to do this or has
it changed over the years.

Speaker 10 (01:07:54):
It's absolutely changed. So the Melon Foundation, it was originally
created in the the late nineteen sixties, was created by
Andrew Bellen's son. He had Paul Millan had no intention
for it to be, as far as I can tell,
a kind of political project. Rather, it primarily funds the humanities,

(01:08:17):
or funded the humanities just you know the English philosophy history.
And it did a good job for a long time.
And I know people who have had Melon fellowships who
do good real academic work. But I think the story
of the last ten years, in so many different realms
has been ideological capture. And it's interesting how once one

(01:08:42):
institution gets captured, one institution they say, no, we're not
going to follow our original mission. We're not going to
follow our basic mission. We're going to view our institution
as a tool for a political project or a tool
for social justice. It has downstream effects. So the universities
do that, and eventually every a lot of the graduates

(01:09:04):
from universities go on to work for other organizations, maybe
like the Melon Foundation. And the Melon Foundation decides to
embrace a more ideological vision. And what does it do.
It changes its giving so that more people are recruited
two universities in the first place who have this sort
of activist vision. So, you know, I think that's what
we've seen not only in the Melon Foundation, but in

(01:09:25):
a lot of other institutions. And that's what makes it
so hard to actually get real reform in our universities.
Even with these big actions coming out of the Trump administration,
they're up against a lot. They're up against something that's
much bigger than just having these these these really large
DEI offices.

Speaker 1 (01:09:43):
Yeah, and it's going to take more than four years
of the Trump administration to rid these universities of this.
As you point out, John, I don't I don't know
if it'll ever happen. We can only hope, John, great
work on this. We appreciate a few minutes of your time.

Speaker 2 (01:09:55):
Thank you, John, Thank you so much.

Speaker 6 (01:09:57):
Thank you.

Speaker 2 (01:09:58):
As John D.

Speaker 1 (01:09:59):
Saylor with the City Journal talking about you know, he
followed the money on who's paying for these radical activists
and higher education? And guess what is a Mellon Foundation
named after Andrew Mellon, who one time served its treasury secretary.
That was not the original intent. But isn't that funny, Greg?
How when baby boomers take over they just change everything.

Speaker 2 (01:10:19):
Well, when we see the work of Dough, Yeah, I
gave you an opening there, I know, and you could
you could have just felt like I was piling on.
I know you said it. I know, self deprecating by
any want to really really you know, go after you.
But yes, well thank you. The baby boomers. Uh they
ruin everything, huh don't they? No? No, no, But we
when we see the work of Data Republican where they

(01:10:39):
were able to through the algorithms or through AI connect
incredible amounts of federal funds that go to these universities,
into their foundations and then out that is what's fueling
things like this Melon Foundation. That doesn't they don't do
it by themselves. They are just the I think they're
the front or the face of what brings the bare
billions of dollars uh to to, you know, to influence

(01:11:01):
our young ones that are going to our institution of
the hire learning.

Speaker 1 (01:11:04):
All right, we've got a lot more to come here
on the Rod and Great Show and Utah's Talk Radio
one oh five nine k n RS.

Speaker 2 (01:11:10):
Jesus is just all right. It's a very good gesture,
and I do I think it's a pendulum swing we're
seeing coming back the other way from the lunacy we've
been enduring. And so yeah, I think that's great.

Speaker 1 (01:11:22):
I wish stores would close on Christmas Day and on Easter.

Speaker 2 (01:11:26):
Well, let me ask you this says it hurt Chick
fil A no be closed on Sundays. I don't think so.
Everybody loves Chick fil A and they don't open on Sunday.
And I think they're just fine. Yep, they've been politically targeted,
but they don't even care they've been. They just they
just stay at the course. And Americans love their Chick
fil A.

Speaker 1 (01:11:42):
All Right, A big, big win today for the president
in front of the Supreme.

Speaker 2 (01:11:46):
Court, Yes, prior to that, So, folks, I want to
set this table and so that we can appreciate a
win when we get one. Uh, Before we talk about
the big decision by the Supreme Court with you, I
want you to hear what our Attorney General, Pam Bondi
said on Fox News Sunday this Sunday about what she
thinks is the real constitutional crisis we are confronting as
a country.

Speaker 11 (01:12:06):
The president is going to comply with the law. He
was overwhelmingly elected by an overwhelming majority of the United
States citizens to be our commander in chief, and that's
what he's been doing, Shannon. Just since January twentieth, we've
had over one hundred and seventy lawsuits filed against us.
That should be the constitutional crisis right there, fifty injunctions.

(01:12:30):
They're popping up every single day, trying to control his
executive power, trying to control where he believes our tax
dollars should be allocated. And saying he won by an
overwhelming majority is so important because that's what the American
people want.

Speaker 2 (01:12:46):
Okay, Okay, So finally we have a Supreme Court that
has stepped forward. And I'm reading a New York I
like reading the New York Times in the Washing Post.
This is actually from the Washing Post. They say Supreme
Court and this was just fifty minutes ago. So this
is their break news. Supreme Court allows use of wartime
law to deport alleged gang members. So that Judge Bober

(01:13:06):
whoever he is, who said you just can't do it,
left and you've got to bring them all back. The
Supreme Court just told him, Pound sand Pal, you don't
have the authority to do it. What they do say
is you got to go to this Texas where they
were deported from. That's the jurisdiction you got to go to. Well,
I like our chances with judges in Texas. I'm just
going to tell you that. So let's go to Texas.

(01:13:27):
Let's see how that works.

Speaker 1 (01:13:28):
Well, as you mentioned, the detainees are confined in Texas,
so venue is improper in the District of Columbia. See,
you could your district cannot be the United States. If
you're a federal judge, your district is designed for a
specific area. He was making a ruling in Washington that
pertained to Texas, and the Supreme Court said cannot do that.

Speaker 2 (01:13:48):
And I think the rest of them that should be
some kind of some precedent that you should pair back
these other judges that are trying to make decisions for
three hundred and fifty million people in this country. The
New York Times had line was, is Supreme Court overturns
lower courts block on Venezuelan deportations. So it is a
constitutional crisis to see if the judicial branch extend and

(01:14:12):
usurp it's the power of the executive branch, and it's
it's needed to be paired back. I've been waiting for
the Supreme Court to act. I think this is one
of the more important decisions that Supreme Courts made. I
think there's going to be more discussion. I think some
of the details are that they think that those being
deported to have some access to a opportunity to really
shouldn't why they're not a gang member or something like.

Speaker 1 (01:14:32):
That, they shouldn't if they're here illegally. Greg in my opinion,
they have no rights. Yeah, And we talked to Brett
Tolman about this last week and he indicated it was
federal judge Paul Cassel, that's right, who did a very
detailed analysis of this, and I think he came up
with two or three very small items that they could
You could argue they have rights, but for the most part,

(01:14:53):
if you're in the country illegally, you're not a citizen.

Speaker 2 (01:14:56):
You have no rights whatsoever. Even in my opinion, that's
the way should and even know that God here legally
their guests, and if a guest goes and starts looting
your home or beaten, you can ask the guests to leave.
You can have the guests leave, and you don't have
to do more than that because they're they're not very
good guests.

Speaker 1 (01:15:11):
Yes, that's a big win for the president. Of course,
the president promise during the campaign leading up to the
election in November that he would make our streets safer
and he in fact would get rid of illegal aliens
who are committing crimes in this country. And that's exactly
what he did.

Speaker 2 (01:15:27):
Because this story is so fresh, I want to know
what the ripple effect is because when the Supreme Court
rules that they from you know, from this this district
court cannot make they don't have that broad of a jurisdiction.
That's what we're getting with every one of these temporary
restraining orders, and they're tros so that they can't be
appealed so quickly. They're done this way just so they

(01:15:47):
can just gum it up even if they because they
probably know that they don't have a very good standing
in court, but they actually look for judicial decisions that
do not allow it to be appealed quickly or see
it move through the system quicker. I hope this decision
here by the Supreme Court has that that effect on
the rest of these t ros and ever. I mean,
there's for everything. It's doge, it's it's illegal immigration, it's

(01:16:10):
I mean, you're gonna see judges, if they haven't already
try to stop the tariffs that the governor that the
President negotiated.

Speaker 1 (01:16:17):
Good for the stree girl. Oh by the way, I'm
just seeing up on Foxons. Guess who just showed up
on Fox News Who Nick Shirley is on the protest here?
And I didn't realize he did this. This is fascinating.
He was being chased by the crowd. Of course, there
was a guy there said don't touch me, don't touch me,
don't touch me. Right, Yes, So he's being chased out

(01:16:38):
of the protest. So what's he do? He pulls a
basketball move, he runs, then he stops, the guy runs
into him. He goes, you're touching me?

Speaker 2 (01:16:45):
Yeah? Yeah, I mean and the guy that was harassing
was a little heavy and the kids young. He's like,
this guy's can have a hard time keeping up because
he's jogging. It a little bit of a you know,
he's a double time. And anyway, this kid's from me.
I wouldn't we want to break around to more.

Speaker 1 (01:17:00):
We hope we can get him on the show because
he's been all over and what he did at the
protest on Saturday.

Speaker 2 (01:17:05):
Brave, take guts, It does it sure does.

Speaker 1 (01:17:08):
All right, more coming up, final half hour the Rod
and Greig Show, coming your way right here on Utah's
Talk Radio one oh five nine knrs. You know, I
just looked out side. It's a beautiful day outside. I've
been out of this studio all day today.

Speaker 2 (01:17:21):
Yeah, I came in and I was it was it's
gorgeous out there. It's a very nice. It's gorgeous out there.
All right.

Speaker 1 (01:17:27):
Can we talk a little bit time? Yeah, can we
talk a little bit more about this ruling ended bound
within the hour by the Supreme Court. If you just
joined in us. The court declared or cleared the way
now for the Trump administration to use the seventeen ninety
eight Alien Enemies Act to deport illegal alien gang members
from the United States. The ruling significant win for the

(01:17:48):
Trump administration. But you're ready for the bad news. The
Court ruled five to four in this case, with all
but Justice Amy Coney Barrett from the Court's conservative wing,
ruling in the majority.

Speaker 2 (01:18:02):
She voted with the Demo. She voted with the liberal
Democratic women. So here's the thing. Okay, if you watched
the Stay of the Union or whatever they called it,
addressed to Congress with it, Donald Trump went and he
was shaking hands with each of the justices. You watch
his interaction with and I watched this live when it
was happening, and he went to Justice Barrett and he

(01:18:23):
shook her hand, and she was smiling, and she was
being very polite, very courteous, which, by the way, is
not how Biden treated that court when he was doing
his Stay of the Union. He called them out and
threatened them politically, he told him, and they would find
out the power of women in America with the way
they had ruled on Dodd and repealing Roby Wade. But

(01:18:43):
I watched her, and as soon as Trump President Trump
had finished shaking her hand and went to the next justice,
I watched this smile on her face turn to either
a blank or a grimace, like it just went from
smile to nothing. And I but she was still watching him,
and it didn't And then he whatever he was saying

(01:19:05):
to the next justice, he looked back at her to
bring her into the conversation, and her face immediately changed
to a smile again. It felt about as fake, you know,
as a as a one of those Rolex watchers in
Hong Kong. They y, I'm telling you for her, she

(01:19:26):
smiled as soon as his eyes left her, she she
just her face went stoic. And then when he looked
back at her, she smiled again, and it was as
fake as the day is long. And I looked at
that and thought, man, I don't know where she's falling
on votes, but that woman does not look like she
likes him at all. There seems to be a bit
of a negative sentiment there, just by body language.

Speaker 1 (01:19:49):
Remember the opposition she faced when she was during her
nomination process. She's she's a devout Catholic. Questions were directed
to her about the issue of abortion, and she's pro life,
not pro choice, and they tried to do everything to
derail her. And it was Donald Trump who nominated.

Speaker 2 (01:20:08):
As he did.

Speaker 1 (01:20:09):
So here you have Donald Trump behind her, you know,
pushing for her to get on this recurrent and now
she's making rulings like this against the president.

Speaker 2 (01:20:19):
What's going on with any I would love to say
that this just you know, it's her. She's the originalist,
She's read the text of the Constitution, she's applying it fairly.
This is where she's falling landed. She'll land mostly with
conservatives most times, but there's times where she wouldn't. And now,
if that was the norm, I would say fine, And
I think that has been the norm at times. I'm
telling you that when you combine it, and she's a

(01:20:39):
young mom, by the way, when they went and protested
her home when they leaked the Dodd decision, and it
protests this woman has young kids at home, and they've
made a very and it's against federal law, by the way,
to intimidate judges with pending decisions and things like that.
It's again, it is a blatant violation of federal law,
of which Biden in the dust Justice Department did not
enforce at all. Those people were surrounding her home. But

(01:21:03):
he protects, he defended her, he nominated her. But I'm
telling you, when I saw her, her personal interaction with him,
it was it was a tell. It was. And I
am afraid that we're going to see between her and
Justice Roberts, which I'm surprised Bill Roberts. Roberts is on
the side of conservatives on this because he's he's you know,

(01:21:26):
he's broken our hearts. I can't count how many times.
But between the two of them, we don't even have
a conservative bench. If if Roberts and Barrett, Justice Barrett
decide they want to team up with the Democrats side. Look,
I was a lawmaker, I'm not a lawyer. I'm not
a judge. But there's no I don't know what the
argument is that a federal judge and a district court

(01:21:47):
judge of a specific jurisdiction of this country has the
ability to rule for three hundred and fifty million Americans
broadly on anything. If they don't know how to pair
back and they did on a five to four vote.
But I'm going to tell you what's dangerous about Justice
Barrett's vote vote. There is somehow she was okay with that. Yeah,

(01:22:09):
And that is about the most obvious thing that we've
not seen abused that way prior to this president and
that we shouldn't see going forward.

Speaker 1 (01:22:16):
You know, you just never know what justices who are
nominated at higher court. Case in point here in the
state of Utah, we have a very liberal Utah Supreme Court. Yes,
in my opinion, yes, you know, and you know, and
I don't know what kind of test they go through,
what their hearings are like, if there are any hearings
at all on them, because they're dominated by the governor,
like the President does.

Speaker 2 (01:22:36):
Right, they have the Senate confirmation, do they.

Speaker 1 (01:22:38):
I wonder how hard and how much work goes into
examining the judicial rulings and the records of these men
and women who now serve on the Utah Supreme Court,
because they have gone against everything, almost everything that the
Utah Legislature has passed.

Speaker 2 (01:22:55):
And it's true, and I will tell you that when
you look at Governor Herbert's time, every governor's time. But
if I were just to go back in time to
Governor Herbert's time and now we have the second term
of Governor Cox. These governors they appoint people throughout the system.
They're appointing judges, but they're also but yeah, so state judges,
but they're also appointing you know, their Parole and Probation Committee.

(01:23:16):
They're criminal what's it called the Sentencing Commission. All of
these are soft on crime. All of everyone that's been
appointed in the last twenty years have been soft on crime,
liberal and agenda. We've had catch and release judges in
this state. We have retention elections with truly zero information,

(01:23:37):
elections that we don't know anything. And they say, well,
go look up to the Conduct Commission. Judicial Conduct Commission
has it. These are attorneys that have to appear before
those judges. They you can't even ask a judge what
their opinion are an attorney rather what their opinion of
a judge is, because that attorney will tell you I
could be disbard if I disparaged a judge. They're not
even allowed to disparage these judges or criticize their rulings.

(01:23:59):
We as a people don't have We have retention elections
with no understanding of the just judicial disposition of the
very judges we have the governors appoint them that. I
know that the Senate does their level best to try
and understand if they're going to be if they're you know,
if they're going to be liberal, or if they're going
to just try to be activist judges. I know they try.
But at the end of the day, if you're gonna
have and bother to have an election for judges in

(01:24:21):
the state of Utah, we should have some portals of
information to know who these people are. If you put
the transparency up, I guarantee you these guys getting caught
three in the morning trying to molest a kid who's
out before the police can fail out the paperwork. If
his neighbor, if that judges he or she's neighbors knew
that's what they did, they wouldn't They wouldn't release that
person right away. No, they wouldn't do it if they
had more scrutiny to the decisions they make.

Speaker 1 (01:24:42):
Well, let me tell you what I think. This is
a warning from both Greg and I right now. If
you conservatives out there, I think we have a conservative
Supreme Court. You don't know with Roberts. You don't know
with any Cony Barrett anymore. So be mindful if you're thinking, oh,
just get at the court. They're ruling in our favor,
not the case anymore. I don't know what is that. Well,
we know what has happened to Roberts. Roberts is so

(01:25:03):
concerned about the legacy of the Roberts Supreme Court that
he doesn't want to do anything to tarnish its reputation.
Cony Barrett, I'm not sure what's happened to her, but
she is no longer a concern.

Speaker 2 (01:25:15):
Chief Justice Roberts always over compensates on the left of
everything he doesn't and if you just call balls and strikes,
that would be a better legacy. Rehnquist didn't play this game.
Chief Justice Rehnquist didn't do any of this. He didn't
fall into the trap that Roberts is. But Barrett, boy,
that's a different story. Go back. I don't know. It's
got to be on YouTube or something. Go watch those
those dagger eyes.

Speaker 3 (01:25:35):
Man.

Speaker 2 (01:25:36):
She does not like him. I swear to you that
is just from my eye watching her, and I went, wow,
there is something going on there.

Speaker 1 (01:25:44):
All right, Moore coming up on the Roden Greg Show
in Utah's Talk Rady Go one O five nine, Kate
and rs uh.

Speaker 2 (01:25:49):
Yeah. I'm looking at this New York Times piece here,
and it's actually surprising they're willing to admit this. But
I'm looking at they've they've taken the world and its
countries into blocks, and they've made the size of the
block the size of the trade they have with the
United States, and lines are being drawn of those nations
that want to cooperate and those that want to retaliate.
And basically what the New York Times is identifying, this

(01:26:11):
is day three of the big realignment that hasn't happened,
you know, fifty plus years. We're realigning our trade relationships.
We have the world that wants to cooperate and the EU,
China and Canada that want to retaliate. I like the
trend on day three, I do. I think that's a
good sign.

Speaker 1 (01:26:29):
I don't know how they came up with this, but
Congresswoman Luna and Speaker Johnson have found a deal to
end the proxy voting.

Speaker 2 (01:26:38):
Fud good luck describing it. I cannot even stand on
one foot and rub your belly or something going.

Speaker 1 (01:26:44):
There, all right? Some other news that we did not
get to. Today, after a stunning seven year reign, Olive
Garden is no longer the top dog in casual dining.

Speaker 2 (01:26:55):
Really, I didn't know it was the top dog to
begin with for seven years? Where are you?

Speaker 16 (01:27:00):
And?

Speaker 2 (01:27:00):
Man? I mean, I know it's it's bottomless salads and
bread sticks. I don't know. I didn't really. I think
they do a pretty good job.

Speaker 1 (01:27:07):
Beat there occasionally, Uh, known for its never ending breadsticks
and pasta heavy menu, flipped to number one or number two.

Speaker 2 (01:27:14):
Who dethroned them Texas Roadhouse. All about that, man, Yeah,
I love Texas Roadhouse easily. That's an easy replacement.

Speaker 1 (01:27:22):
Yeah, the budget friendly steakhouse chain took their revenue for
the Revenue Crown for the first time, marking a shift
in consumer appetite and a big win win for meat
over marin Era.

Speaker 2 (01:27:34):
Hallelujah. So you like you like Texas? I love Texas?
You think about eating there a couple of times? Oh,
you better get get sophisticated, go to Texas Roadhouse. Yeah. Yeah,
they've got great food there. You know, I've noticed.

Speaker 6 (01:27:47):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:27:47):
And we have two Olive gardens fairly close to us,
one a bount a full one in Layton.

Speaker 2 (01:27:53):
They're always busy? Are they always busy? The ones near
my my house closed down? It did one in the Yeah,
the one that was why you live in that snooty ville,
the one that, yeah, one I know there. And then
the one in downtown. Well, there's one in downtown Sall Lake.
They closed too. Really, I didn't know that. I didn't
even know there's still in business.

Speaker 1 (01:28:10):
All right, this is okay, this is an odd story.
And I'm not sure. Air travel. You know, we all
don't like to travel by here anymore. It used to
be a pleasure. Now it's kind of a pain in
the butt.

Speaker 2 (01:28:21):
Yes, would always get sick. You can't go on a
plane without catching something.

Speaker 1 (01:28:24):
Well, well, I'm not sure what's going on, but apparently
there appears to be a naked woman academic or epidemic
and golfing air travel.

Speaker 2 (01:28:36):
No, yes, no, this is not. No, this is true.
I'm not are someone's wishful thinking?

Speaker 1 (01:28:42):
No, you've got it. You've got three stories. A Southwest
Airlines flight had a woman stripped down and twerk at
the cockpit door.

Speaker 2 (01:28:50):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (01:28:51):
In Fort Lauderdale, a woman appeared to have suffered a
metal a mental episode, and she stripped down and last
but not lead to DFW, a woman went totally insane,
went on a campaign them naked aggression around the entire airport.

Speaker 2 (01:29:08):
Man, you can you imagine that's those You know, it
sounds at first kind of sallacious and maybe kind of interesting,
but then you think about you are trapped up in
this box up in the sky. You can't get out,
you can't do It's what do you do? Know, I'm saying,
what a nightmare to have something like that on your hands.
You're stuck up in the sky. There's nowhere to go.
You can't leave. You can't just like, okay, I'll leave

(01:29:30):
this place. This is crazy town. We're all at the
airport before bording. Oh, this is at the airport. This
is at the airport. This isn't on the plane. No
women just taking their clothes off. Oh, well that you
can avoid. You can just leave that gate, just go,
just take the kids and go. You just you don't
need to have anyone see that. That's just terrible. Yeah.
By the way, I'm still looking for the rest of

(01:29:50):
the story. Remember there was a story a couple of
weeks ago that we had some lunatic out in Antarctica
and some and some laboratory down there that was, oh yeah,
had the big help. They called it it called for
help because they had a psycho on their hands. It's
been crickets and it's been like two to three weeks.
Does anyone have a follow up story to that, because
I don't know how you can tell that story where

(01:30:12):
they're all in trouble, there's a psycho the ones to
kill them, and then there's not another story. Good movie,
I know that's made up. Movies made that, all right.

Speaker 1 (01:30:20):
So you're sitting around the table, right or the dudes saying,
we need to do a survey. What nutty survey question.

Speaker 2 (01:30:27):
Could we ask?

Speaker 1 (01:30:30):
So they asked, okay, and here's what they found. One
in fifty men believe they can outrun a champion racehorse.

Speaker 2 (01:30:39):
No, that's there's no way, that's what it said.

Speaker 14 (01:30:44):
No.

Speaker 2 (01:30:46):
I got a saying, yeah, if a bears, if you
and your friend are come across a bear and a
bear starts to chase you, you don't have to outrun
the bear, You need to outrun your friend. You got
that's the old lion joke too. Yes, I've heard that before.

Speaker 1 (01:30:59):
Other animals that men think they could outpace crocodiles twenty
seven percent. You ever seen a crocodile move, They're pretty
darn quick.

Speaker 2 (01:31:07):
Well, not only that, they can run sideways so they
can sweep. They're they're way bigger than alligators, if you
alligators are like the baby version of it, but these
are like dinosaurs still left on the earth. They even
run sideways. Yeah, twenty percent think they can outrun an elephant.
You know, you know I yeah, that's that's all. That's
all silly. I'm still back at the crocodile thinking if

(01:31:29):
those crocodiles can catch like, you know, four legged animals
that are fast, they're catching it. Yeah, that's for sure.
So don't try and outrun a race horse. You'll never
know you're let me bet on it.

Speaker 1 (01:31:42):
It's been great to be with you today. Head out,
shoulders back when God bless you and your family and
this great country and our thanks for joining you. That
we're back tomorrow and have a good

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