The Rod and Greg Show: Industries Stand to Benefit from Trump Tariffs; Idaho's Death Penalty Law for Pedophiles

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
The president today held the news conference just about what
about an hour ago, greg and he announced the revitalization
of the coal industry. Utah has had a powerful coal industry.
It's part of our overall economy. Decimated over the last
several years by the crazy greenies, and hopefully it'll come
back a little bit.

Speaker 2 (00:17):
Well it had, yeah, he named. He rattled off a
number of states that have a good and robust coal industry,
and it's been attacked for how long, not just Biden
but Obama's years as well. If we have enjoyed cheaper
electricity costs and power costs in neighboring states, certainly more
than California, much of that is our coal fired power plants,
of which the you know, the Democrats, leftists have been

(00:39):
trying to shut down for so long. And I'm telling
you that is why we have enjoyed such lower And
by the way, Utah's coal is a high BTU burning
low sulfur, very low pollutant, cold to begin with, very unique.
West Virginia always says they're the cleanest, they have the best.
We'll take the pepsi challenge. I think Utah's coal's cleaner
and runs hotter than West Virginia's coal. So let's let's

(01:00):
have that contest. But very very good news for the
state of Utah. Very good news for the United States.

Speaker 1 (01:05):
Yeah, very very good news. More good news today as well,
the Supreme Court. Despite when Amy Cony Barrett is doing,
the Supreme Court is actually helping the president out. Now.
The Court is clearing away many of the speed bumps
that these district judges around the country are put in
front of the president. The Court said today the administration

(01:26):
does not greg does not have to comply with a
lower court order directing it to rehire thousands of fired
federal workers.

Speaker 2 (01:35):
That's right.

Speaker 1 (01:35):
So the High Court said, go ahead, you want to
fire them, go ahead, your.

Speaker 2 (01:40):
Executive Yeah, it's kind of an executive branch thing. I
think that's your your gig. You got elected to do it,
Go do it. Yeah. So Supreme Court blocks order that
required Trump administration to reinstate thousands of federal workers. Yeah,
chuck that up. That's another win.

Speaker 1 (01:53):
This on top of what we broke last night on
the show. The Justices lifted to judges order prohibiting the
administration from using the Alien's Enemies Act to deport suspected
criminals in mass they're going to have to have a hearing,
I guess, but it wasn't and we'll talk with Mike
Lee about this a little bit later on Greg It
wasn't such a constitutional question that the court answered. They

(02:15):
answered a jurisdictional question, and they said, that nut job
of a federal judges Washington, DC has no authority over
every district in the country.

Speaker 2 (02:24):
Yeah, that man doesn't even have an arm's length from
all these NGOs and nonprofits that the federal government has
been paying for to socially engineer this country into crazy town.
So they said, you can't shop for judges. I think
one of the most important things about that Supreme Court
Court ruling is that you have to go into the
jurisdiction on which you think the objectionable action takes place.

(02:44):
So if they were deported from Texas, you've got to
go to Texas and make that case, and the person
in Texas has to have standing to do it. But
it did also say that there's some judicial process where
if someone's accused of being one of these gang members,
that they have a way to our argue otherwise or
have some kind of case, So that will slow I
think some of this down. But the judge shopping has

(03:06):
been the one that the Democrats, the leftists have enjoyed
the most DC district course they were going to of course,
I mean, you couldn't even get a guy whose fingerprints
were all over fabricating information about Trump and trying to
create a collusion hoax FBI attorney. You couldn't even get
a guilty verdict inside of DC with a jury because
anything with Trump, they would let someone slide. So DC

(03:28):
is a terrible place to ask a judge anything about
Trump where it's not going to be you know, he's
not going to be on the wrong end of that decision.
So good for the Supreme Court there.

Speaker 1 (03:36):
We're going to talk more about that today. But coming up,
here's what we're talking about today. You know, yeah, yeah,
since the President announced almost a week ago down his
list of tariffs and what's going on in the tariffs,
you know, we've all been talking about, well, what companies
are going to be hurt by the tariffs. What's going
to happen to those companies. They're also companies that are
going to benefit from these tariffs, and we'll dig into that.

(03:58):
I'm really looking to this interview where coming up at
the bottom of the air. We talked about this yesterday.
We were finally able to get a hold of Nick Shirley.
Now Nick is a YouTube journalist. He was the young
man a lot of courage, we're in a suit and
shirt and tie, very respectful who waded into the protest
at the state Capitol over the weekend, this hands off

(04:18):
protest and started asking people what they believed in and
why they were here, and he got a lot of attention.
We're able to get a hold of Nick and he's
going to join us at the bottom of the hour.
I want to hear his story.

Speaker 2 (04:29):
So look, I have traversed that capital many many, many
times the outside of it, and I've seen a ton
of rallies and this one had a good, good turnout,
good number, right, But and it was I mean I've
seen a lot of different groups and interest groups at rally.
This was, uh, these were these were lunatics. And he
went right into the middle of it and you could
see them just elbows and touching them and then saying

(04:52):
he's touching me. And the poor state troopers that have
to make you know up try to figure out what's
going on. But I think this mister Shirley. I I
think he acts. He was a class act. It'll be
fun to speak with you.

Speaker 1 (05:02):
Yeah, yeah, And that's coming up at the bottom of
the hour. That's just the first hour of this show.
That's how jam packed it is today. So I hang
with us. Now, Uh, this got to be killing CNN.
I mean, see, Harry Entin is their political He looks
at poll numbers and everything else, and he's become I
kind of like the guy. I think he plays it

(05:22):
pretty straight. And this has got to be killing CNN,
Greg because every poll that he is releasing is showing
that Donald Trump is winning, and he keeps on winning.
And here's CNN sign well wait, you know they don't
say it, but they do that they hate anything Donald
Trump does. But then they had their pollster out there saying,
you know what, he's he's achieving some things and it's driving.

Speaker 2 (05:46):
Them nuts, it really is. And and look, I think
that he has a lot of credibility. I mean he does,
he does break down the numbers, he does show those things,
and then he's got a bit of a swagger to
it all. I like how he narrates it. I think
it's he's got a lot of enthusiasm with the he's
doing it, which is that and that also is crushing
the CNN, you know, talking heads, because he's not giving

(06:07):
him the information. He's not sending back what they want
to hear. So you can just you can see the
just the body language of the CNN people. They are
just dying at what all?

Speaker 1 (06:15):
They can't stand it. Well, here's Harry Enton today. You know,
there was some concern he'll point this out on the
audio bite. You'll hear that because he only had one
more term to serve four years, that he'd be a
lame duck. Yes, Harry says, uh uh, he's something completely different.

Speaker 3 (06:30):
I think there was this concern among some folks that
Donald Trump would come in for a second term and
kind of be a lame duck. He ain't no lame duck.
If anything, He's a soaring eagle. What am I talking
about here? Let's talk about Trump executive orders in twenty
twenty five, He's already signed one hundred and eleven so far.
That is the most at this point in a presidency
and at least one hundred years. In fact, it's the

(06:51):
most in any single year. More only in April since
Harry s Truman in the early nineteen fifties. The bottom
line is what you'll like Trump or you don't like him.
You can't say that he's comment and not try to
deliver on what he at least believes was his promises
on the campaign trail. And he's doing so in historic fashion.

Speaker 1 (07:12):
Not a lame duck, but a sorry and eagle.

Speaker 2 (07:16):
I know it is great, and I'll tell you that
he comes up with numbers. I don't know if you
have this one that they pull and they say, look,
he has signed a record number of executive orders, more
than anyone Harry Truemighty. There's been so many. How are
people digesting this?

Speaker 1 (07:32):
Yeah, here's what he said.

Speaker 3 (07:33):
I think the American people recognize what he's doing here
is completely different.

Speaker 2 (07:37):
We're talking get this.

Speaker 3 (07:39):
Eighty six percent of the American public believes that Trump's
approach to presidential power is completely different from past presidents,
compared to only fourteen percent who believe it is in
line with president And we're talking about at least seventy
nine percent of Democrats, Independents, and Republicans. So again, you
can agree or you can disagree with Donald Trump. But

(08:00):
what you can't disagree with is that he's doing things
very differently. I have used the Frank Sinatra quote before.
He is doing it quote unquote my way. And that
is what Donald Trump has done throughout both of his
presidential terms. And he's certainly doing that Cape Bauldwin in
term number two.

Speaker 1 (08:16):
And isn't that exactly what we wanted wanted Donald Trump
to do? We wanted Donald Trump to be that proverbial
bull in a china shop. He's going to town with it.
And like I said, the CNN folks, they don't know
how to deal with this, Greg. I mean they he
just keeps on winning and they can't stand.

Speaker 2 (08:34):
Can I play one more clip really quick?

Speaker 1 (08:35):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (08:36):
Will so that eighty six percent doing it his way?
It just kills this CNN lady. So she asked this
question three, But is.

Speaker 4 (08:45):
It taking a step further? Do the people think he
has too much he's taken too much power?

Speaker 5 (08:49):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (08:49):
This I think is the real question.

Speaker 4 (08:50):
Right.

Speaker 3 (08:51):
You can believe that he's doing stuff completely differently, but
do you think that he has a little too much
power or not?

Speaker 1 (08:56):
And this is interesting.

Speaker 2 (08:57):
So Trump's presidential power.

Speaker 3 (08:59):
Is too much, the right amount, too little? Well, forty
seven percent say too much, But then you get thirty
six percent who say the right amount. Then you get
seventeen percent who say too little. So you're essentially dealing
with a majority of the American public fifty three percent
who do not say that Trump has too much power.
They either says he has too little power or the
right amount of power. So the idea, that argument that

(09:21):
Donald Trump is quote unquote a king that I don't
think holds with the American people.

Speaker 1 (09:26):
Does hold maybe toy and doesn't the Party love out
there say he's a king. He's a dictator here.

Speaker 2 (09:34):
Democracy, he says, and on and on boo hoo, Whohnton
Harry Anton's got it right now. They don't think he's
the key. They think he's you know, he either has
enough party power or he just he needs more, is
it right? Seventy percent, so he doesn't have enough yet, killing,
keep going.

Speaker 1 (09:49):
Killing, killing, MSNBC. Their numbers, by the way, are way
down again. Killing. The Democratic Party.

Speaker 2 (09:56):
Might be chasing him away himself. They don't want to
make the may him and Jennings man, it's just too much.
They don't want to hear all that that common sense
and all that truth, with all the poll numbers they
don't want to know that.

Speaker 1 (10:07):
They can't stand it. All right, coming up, we hear
about companies that will be hurt by the tariffs. How
about companies that will benefit. We'll dig into that and
give you all that information. Coming up. Great to be
with you on this Tuesday afternoon, the Rotten Greg Show
on Talk Radio one oh five nine k NRS. Well,
President Trump, of course, has imposed tariffs on many many countries,

(10:28):
which are taxes on goods imported to the US. We've
heard all the damage, the stock market panic that is
taking place, the companies that would be hurt by this,
But what about the industries and the companies in this country, Greg,
that will actually benefit from these tariffs?

Speaker 2 (10:44):
We have any industries left? I thought rather the run
out of town may have been well.

Speaker 1 (10:50):
Joining us on our newspaper line to talk about it
right now is Jeff Mordoc. Jeff is the White House
reporter for the Washington Times. Jeff, how are you welcome
back to the Rodd and Greg Show.

Speaker 6 (11:00):
I'm doing great, Ryan, Greg, Thank you guys for having
me back.

Speaker 1 (11:02):
All right, let's talk about some of these companies or
industries that you point out in your article that will
actually benefit from these terriffs, Jeff, what did you find out?

Speaker 6 (11:12):
Well, there's a lot of there's a lot of industries
that will benefit. Primarily, there are more industries that manufacture
here in the United States than you would think. And
some of them include popular brands like Anheuser Busch. You know,
their CEO is one of the few that are out
there saying that they're covered and their exposure from tariffs
is going to be limited. You could also apply that

(11:34):
to John Deere, Caterpillar in too heavy equipment manufacturers. Most
of their production facilities are in sales are here in
the United States. The industry that I find to be
the most interesting is the shrimp industry because we have
had this industry that has been undercut by foreign by

(11:56):
foreign countries for years, because we've never had a tariff
on shrimp, and we've had you know, Vietnam, Thailand. I mean,
shrimp are relatively inexpensive to produce. You just need a
pond and to shrimp and let them have fun. And
then next thing you know, you have more shrimp. So
you've got so you don't need a lot to produce shrimp,

(12:19):
and they're coming over here, and it's an industry that's
been completely devastated, and it's one of the few industries
I've seen where across the board, from the manufacturers to
the industry trade groups, they have been incredibly grateful and
incredibly positive of President Trump's tariffs.

Speaker 2 (12:37):
You point out in the article, and I'm staring at
the shrimp issue because it is an interesting one and
it's been a quiet one. I probably didn't appreciate this
bit because of these cheaper imports, you know, shrimp and ponds,
so to speak, instead of the shrimpers that are out
in the larger bodies of water Gulf of Mexico or
the ocean. Thing we've lost us shrimpers have lost nearly
fifty percent of the market value. So my question is,

(12:59):
if you lose fifty percent of the market value, do
we have shrimpers that are going to still be on
the ground ready to go to enjoy the needed tariff
on shrimp.

Speaker 6 (13:10):
We do, but it's not at the level was as
much as ten to fifteen years ago. I apologize I'm
blanking them with specific numbers, but in that article there,
you know, we talked. I talked in there about what
the level of shrimp, the number of shrimpers that there
were in Texas and in Louisiana has recently has you know,

(13:30):
twenty ten, two thousand, and it's it's a remarkable I mean,
it went from thousands to hundreds, and it's a remarkable
decimation of the industry simply because of no tariffs.

Speaker 2 (13:42):
Jeff, it is it's twenty five hundred licensed commercial shrimpers
along the Gulf Coast in Texas and two thousand there's
fewer than one thousand. And nineteen ninety five, Alabama had
fourteen hundred licensed commercial shrimpers. They got four hundred and
seven only today. So you're absolutely right. Let's talk about
steel and aluminum. Do we have anyone? I grew up

(14:02):
in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. I don't think there's any more steels
being made in Pittsburgh anymore. Maybe I'm wrong, but I
know that industry is not what it used to be.
Are we in a position as the United States? We
should be able to make our own steel and illuminum.
It's a good thing to be able to do.

Speaker 6 (14:16):
But can we Yes, yes we can, and we can
because we do have the plants. And what this tariff
is doing is what these tariffs are doing is a
lot of these foreign companies. HYONDI Steel is a great example.
They've bought a kind of a little bit of a rundown,
I don't want to say it was in disrepair, but
a steel mill in Louisiana that needed some upgrades and

(14:37):
they're investing, you know, hundreds of millions of dollars to
get this up and make this a world class steel
mil We are going to see other steel companies come
in here, other foreign steel companies come in here and
start producing and invest here in the United States because
we're going to have these tariffs and it's an easier
way to avoid the tariffs. We have world class workers,

(14:59):
we know know how to do it. They're there, they're
ready to get online. They just need the investment.

Speaker 1 (15:04):
Jeff I found it very interesting the other day. I
was watching TV and this was a company that I
think they like make outdoor fire campsite things, and the
first line in the ad was tariff protected, made in America.
I mean, I would think more companies are going to
take advantage of telling the American people they're traff protected
and their product is made in America.

Speaker 6 (15:26):
Well they are, and because the American people are going
to be you know, there's more of a motivation to
buy America, and there's more now you know. It's the
American people know they're going to be getting a good deal.
They're not going to have to be paying the tariff
on these products. So it's a win win because you
appeal to their pocketbook and you appeal to their patriotism.

Speaker 1 (15:43):
Jeff, great article. Thanks for a few minutes of your time. Jeff.
We look forward to chatting with you again. Thanks Jeff,
Thank you.

Speaker 7 (15:49):
Guys.

Speaker 6 (15:49):
Always enjoy coming on here.

Speaker 1 (15:51):
All right, Jeff Moore dog He is the White House
reporter at the Washington Times, talking about companies that will
actually benefit from the tariff. Tru's good news.

Speaker 2 (16:00):
Some of those companies are not. It's not that they
could just produce it cheaper. They dump. It's a loss
leader for them. They're trying to run their competition out
of business so that when they're gone, then they don't
have that competition. They can rack those prices waist sky high.
It's a technique, sadly that's been our industries have been
a victim of in the past.

Speaker 1 (16:18):
All Right, more coming up it is the Rod and
Gregg Show on Utah's Talk Radio one oh five nine knrs.
We had a lot of fun yesterday with the hands
off protests that were taking place around the country and
here in the state of Utah. As a matter of fact, Greg,
we're laughing that many of the protesters really didn't know
what they were protesting and probably could only tell you
if they had their democratic talking points.

Speaker 2 (16:40):
Yeah, the well funded Democrat organizations, Indivisible Project and others
Left Aught or or whatever they're called, they're not even
hiding the fact that they're finding this. They've got their
talking points, they print up the signs, they even say,
you know, you'll even see Indivisible Project at the rally somewhere.
But they just get the saying people that come to

(17:01):
the same protests and they and they are. The only
thing they know is that they hate Trump. Yeah, if
you get a little deeper than that, you've lost it,
completely lost them. But that's we know that because we
have some you know, citizen soldiers out there, some real
patriots showing us what in the world's going on in
that clown show.

Speaker 1 (17:19):
Well, one that got a lot of attention is our
next guest. His name is Nick Shirley. He's a YouTube journalist.
Listen to what he did during the protest on Saturday.
That's just a portion of what he dared to do.

Speaker 8 (17:30):
They are confronting these anti Trump and anti el must protesters,
seeing what they're protesting for.

Speaker 1 (17:35):
Let's see who we can get up here.

Speaker 2 (17:37):
Wow, I just want to remind you of a protest procedure.

Speaker 5 (17:40):
Don't film in this consent of anyone's faces, and we'd
ask if.

Speaker 2 (17:44):
You are on public property though, so we can film.
Are you part of the protest?

Speaker 3 (17:47):
Are you for us?

Speaker 2 (17:48):
I'm here, easy, dude, you don't have our content to
do this.

Speaker 1 (17:50):
Don't touch me, don't touch right, don't touch right.

Speaker 2 (17:56):
The audience doesn't do Just as this masked up lunatics
put his hand, He's just absolutely hit this kid, Nick,
and then and then he throws his arms at like,
don't touch me after he's running into it.

Speaker 1 (18:05):
Don't touch me. Well, that was all done by our
next guest, Nick. Surely we're able to get him on
the show today to talk about this. Nick, How are
you welcome to the Rotten Greg Show.

Speaker 9 (18:16):
Aren't those protesters pretty?

Speaker 10 (18:19):
Nick?

Speaker 1 (18:19):
How on why did you decide to go into the
belly of the beast and do this?

Speaker 8 (18:24):
Well, I've been going to these protests, showing people what's
happening here in Salt Lake City because nobody really knows
that there's so much craziness happening down there.

Speaker 2 (18:32):
So these people hate me. Let me tell you and so,
and I love that you are well familiar with the law.
I mean you're at the state capital, that is the
people's house. I mean you are absolutely entitled legally to
be there. You you show I think and this one viral.
I know this has been viewed nationally, the video that
you've taken. How do you it looks like you have

(18:53):
a camera person with you. How do you convince anyone
to do this? I so appreciate you doing this, and
you got courage to do it because these people do
get deranged, and they are deranged. But who's filming you?
Who's who did you rope into this with you to
go up there and do it?

Speaker 9 (19:08):
Yeah? I got an autome cameraman.

Speaker 8 (19:10):
He's my cousin and he loves coming out and he
can't believe it either.

Speaker 9 (19:14):
I mean I literally like they attacked me.

Speaker 8 (19:17):
They tried to press me for trespassing out the capitol.
I got to find from the capitol and I told
the capitol you can't find me for this because I'm
doing everything legally. And the State of Utah tried to
find me for being the state.

Speaker 6 (19:30):
At the capitol.

Speaker 9 (19:31):
They did, Yeah, I have all the receipts.

Speaker 6 (19:33):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (19:34):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (19:34):
Is that still pending or have they resolved that?

Speaker 8 (19:38):
They resolved it because I told him, you can't find
me for being at the state capitol at a protest and.

Speaker 9 (19:44):
They try to find me around three hundred dollars for it,
and I said, you guys can't do it. I mean,
and that's illegal.

Speaker 1 (19:51):
And Nick, what most impressed you about this protest up
on the Capitol Hill on Saturday? What impressed you the most?

Speaker 8 (19:58):
The coordination of it pretty amazing. Somehow they're able to
summon ten thousand people.

Speaker 9 (20:03):
Out of nowhere. They the signs are all the same.

Speaker 8 (20:07):
If you watch the videos across the nation, the signs,
the signs, and slogans are all the same. The same
people are each in every single protest.

Speaker 2 (20:17):
Hey, let me ask you, Nick, let me ask you this.
You had this one guy, he was got a mask on,
he had some like fluorescent vest on. I don't know
what he thought his role up there at the Capitol was.
And I've been I'm a recovering public servant. I have
spent a lot of time at that capitol. I've been
through that front that front part of the Capitol, and
I've seen a ton of rallies. But that guy was

(20:39):
particularly aggressive. I mean he was touching your camera. He
was actually running into you and then yelling that he
was being touched.

Speaker 8 (20:46):
Yes, when these people are literally waiting for the opportunity
to assume me, they want me to come.

Speaker 9 (20:51):
They antagonized me for two hours straight.

Speaker 8 (20:53):
They pushed me, call me all sorts of names, and
they're waiting for me to slap one of them or punch.

Speaker 9 (20:59):
One of them so they can try and sue me.
But I won't break. They don't fluster me. Their weaklings.
They couldn't scare me if they had a purge mask on.

Speaker 1 (21:09):
But let me say you, Nick, it's got to be
I mean, how do you control yourself because that guy,
you just wanted to punch him in the face.

Speaker 2 (21:16):
I did.

Speaker 8 (21:18):
That's what they want me to do because they have
their lawyers they're at the protest as well, that will
instantly write me a report. And so I go to
show people what's happening and talk to the people, and
I more than anything, I'm giving these people the opportunity
to share why they're protesting.

Speaker 9 (21:34):
I don't come across as a pro Trump antagonist, as
they say.

Speaker 8 (21:39):
I'm there to give them the opportunity to speak, and
they just think I'm like the double when I show up.

Speaker 2 (21:44):
Yeah, you went in a suit and tie. You said, look,
and you even try to make the point. I'm trying
to be respectful here. So did you ever have and
I because I see the video and it's it's the
it's they are loons. I mean, they are out of
their minds. But did you have any kind of constructive
conversation with someone that could actually get into why they
showed up that day and what they think is so
terrible about what Elon Muskin Doge is doing or what

(22:06):
the president's doing. Did you have any real conversations with anyone?
I know you tried, but were you able to Yeah?

Speaker 8 (22:12):
I tried, and there was multiple times when I was
able to have conversations people.

Speaker 9 (22:16):
And a lot of these people.

Speaker 8 (22:17):
They're being told that they're cutting Social Security by what
they're doing with DOSEE cuts, or they're getting rid of
funding for this and that, and they are getting rid
of some of the funding, but some of that funding
is useless, and who are angry at the Department of
Education being wiped away from the federal government.

Speaker 9 (22:37):
So some people they do have.

Speaker 8 (22:39):
Reason for being there and they're angry, but they're being
fed misconceptions about what's actually happening.

Speaker 9 (22:45):
Social Security is not getting cut by any means, No.

Speaker 1 (22:47):
It is. Nick, You've traveled the globe following the big stories.
You've been to Salvador. I think you went to Greenland.
I mean, why travel the globe to get these stories?

Speaker 2 (22:57):
Nick?

Speaker 8 (22:59):
I just and I want to like share with the
world that's happening as much as I can, and come
across and present all the information as fact based as
I can, and more than anything, give people opinions, because
people can sit at a desk and talk to millions
of people, but that's not the opinion of the millions

(23:19):
of people, So I try to go get the opinions
of the people.

Speaker 2 (23:22):
Well, Nick, I congratulate you for what you're doing, because
I do think being on the ground really showing people
things that is being reported. A lot of those reporters
have things that almost like performative politics. They want to
show you certain things. You being on the ground is
such a great eye opener for all of us, real,
real quick, yes or no. I am looking at a
post from someone Booker T. Jones, who's at this absolute

(23:44):
disaster of a situation of the Pacific Ocean turning into
a toilet because of Mexico complaining about the smell and everything.
I've been on this for a long time. Someone told
me that you might know this person, Booker T. Jones,
This woman who is at Imperial Beach calling this out.
Do you know this individual?

Speaker 9 (24:03):
Ricker Key Jones is my mother.

Speaker 2 (24:07):
It's in the DNA. I knew it.

Speaker 6 (24:09):
She's you.

Speaker 2 (24:09):
Tell your mother, thank you. I'm so glad she's there.
This has been on my this is our audience, well knows,
I've been on this.

Speaker 9 (24:18):
Video that the Imperial Beach.

Speaker 8 (24:19):
The water literally, the waves are like a golden food color.

Speaker 7 (24:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (24:23):
It gross.

Speaker 2 (24:24):
If there is anything environmental to protect it should be
down there. They shouldn't do anything about EPA until they
get down there and stop the Pacific Ocean from becoming
a toilet. Tell your mother, she's a hero too. I
appreciate her going down there and showing that.

Speaker 1 (24:37):
Well, Nick, we really appreciate you taking up a few
minutes of your time. You're a brave young soul, my man,
and we appreciate all you do and stay in touch
with you.

Speaker 10 (24:45):
Thanks Nick, Thank you guys very much.

Speaker 1 (24:48):
All Right, Nick Shirley, YouTube journalist, Quite a courageous young man.
All I do too. More Mom, the family, that's the family.
More coming up on the Rotten Greg Show on Talk
Radio one oh five nine k n RS. Well, the
state of Idaho is ready to do something about it,
and we'll talk about that with you in the five
o'clock hour and see if you agree with what they're doing.

(25:10):
We'll talk about that coming up.

Speaker 2 (25:11):
I think it's going to grab a lot of people's attention,
and I think our listeners, hopefully, I think they'll be
willing to opine on this strategy. This is we're coming
to the end of this this hour. I just want
to in our last interview with Nick Shirley, his mother
is down there in Imperial Beach. Where's p Imperio Beach.
It is right next to Tijuana. Where's Tijuana. That is
a part of Mexico that's been shoveling or just pushing

(25:33):
out raw human sewage and into the ocean into the
Pacific ocean so bad that it keeps going up because
of and the and the currents don't go up. By
the way, so much of it that it is polluting
the beaches, and in Imperial Beach and in Coronado.

Speaker 1 (25:48):
You can't swim go down there, and it is.

Speaker 2 (25:51):
As a recurring public servant, I want to go to
the mayors of Imperial Beach in Coronatto and go, hey,
you're you're representing the people. What's on your to do
list today? I got an idea. How about that ocean
in that beach there not be a toilet? Can we
like make that part of it? Folks. I want to
give you two pieces of information while we still have time.
Leezelden posted this morning update Mexico works to attach the

(26:12):
new International Connector to the South Bay International Water Treatment Plant.
Over the next few days, twenty five million gallons per
day of sewage will be redirected to a Mexico treatment plant,
not to the United States. Well, thank you, Secretary Zelden.
This is Lee's This is Nick Shirley's mother who was
on scene and posted this this morning from Imperial Beach, just.

Speaker 7 (26:34):
Out visiting San Diego, right down there, and I want
to tell you about the smelliest beach in America.

Speaker 1 (26:44):
It is right here because you don't want to get
in that water.

Speaker 4 (26:48):
Just puts in that water.

Speaker 11 (26:49):
Sewage from Mexico and anthetically smells.

Speaker 12 (26:53):
Like you're in a sulfur pot out here.

Speaker 2 (26:55):
The smell that smells like a solar part that's putting
it nicely. It's so it is. Our navy seals can't
train out there. They can't. It is just interrupting everything.
There is no environmental protection until you deal with this
issue right here there, I just and doing that. And
can you believe they have a Coastal Commission that won't
let these people build their homes, rebuild their homes along

(27:17):
the coast because it might harm the ocean. You don't
get to have. You have no moral authority to care
about anything about the environment if you can't stop the
Pacific Ocean from being a toilet. That's my take. Not yet,
I'm getting there. This is an ongoing story.

Speaker 1 (27:33):
All right, coming up child molesters in Idaho. Beware, we'll
talk about it next. Greg was showing me all the
cool things today because I had really time to go
through the app Well.

Speaker 2 (27:44):
You had you had your presets on you had warrants.

Speaker 1 (27:47):
That we discovered new things today or I did and
it's really cool, so you need to check it out.

Speaker 2 (27:53):
Yeah, I remember how I told you that my precepts
got presets got messed up. I wanted to I wanted
the can Ars to be one. I'm like brain man,
you know about this, and I wanted to run Greg
podcast to be too, and it got kind of messed up.
I was able to rearrange those. Found some great shows.
Kay sent one to you, showed you one. Yeah, you're
going to listen to a lot too.

Speaker 1 (28:10):
I love them. So so all right, a lot to
get to this hour. We still have an opportunity for
you to win Thomas Red tickets.

Speaker 2 (28:17):
Listen up, folks. Will you hear that bomber music? And
you don't know when it's coming? It's a it's a mystery. Yeah,
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (28:22):
Well, I have said this since I've been doing the
show here for fifteen years now, that I think the
lowest of lower child molesters.

Speaker 2 (28:29):
Yes, I just you know, I don't understand pray upon children.

Speaker 1 (28:33):
How somebody could prey upon young children for their own gratification.
I've just I don't understand it.

Speaker 2 (28:41):
Greg Yeah, you know what. And here's what's worse. There
used to be even a code amongst the most I
don't know, the most, the criminals, the most, the worst
of the worst in America, if you were in a penitentiary,
and if you were in a jail or a prison,
if you were it's been said that if you were
in that jail and you were known to a been
someone who abused or harmed a child or killed a child,

(29:03):
you weren't. You were, and it was dangerous for you
because you were going to get that those inmates didn't
have any tolerance for you. But then you fast forward
to twenty twenty five, or at least last year, twenty
twenty four, you're taking kids. The people are taking kids
at drag shows. They're trying to sexualize them as miners,
you know, and trying to question them about their genders.
And the attack on children is unceasing. In fact, RFK

(29:27):
was in town. Yeah, RFK Junior and Health and Human
Service secretary. But he's taking all of his initiatives about
health and he was congratulating Utah for being the first
DAID to ban fluoride in the water. He said this,
if we want to be a moral nation. If we
want to maintain our moral authority around the world, our
chief obligation is to our children, and we're letting them down.

(29:51):
And I'm very, very happy that Utah has taken the
lead in so many ways talking about what we're doing
with health. But he makes a point, if we are
more nation, protecting children should be inherent.

Speaker 1 (30:05):
Joh, we are, Yeah, job number one. Well, Idaho is
now doing something and this is what we want to
get your reaction to today, because you know it, I
have to compliment idahope for doing this.

Speaker 2 (30:16):
I like it.

Speaker 1 (30:17):
You know, I like it as well. A month after
making Nearson's story, a month after making firing squads that
that state's primary method of execution, the governor has now
signed into law granting judges and juries the ability to
sentence convicted pedophiles to the death.

Speaker 2 (30:37):
Penalty via firing squad.

Speaker 1 (30:39):
Yeah, via firing squad. I mean that's what it is.
The Republican governor up there, his name is Brad Little,
said this about it. He said, just like capital murder
destroys lives, aggravated sexual abuse of a young child devastates
victims and families for generations. Totally agree with that he
ends by saying, the sex abuse of children is sickening,

(31:02):
it's evil, and perpetrators convicted of these crimes deserve the
ultimate punishment.

Speaker 2 (31:07):
And I think I actually they think they're going to
get a legal challenge, and they might. Some Democrat, you know,
Blue states are going the other way. They're trying to make,
you know, soften the penalties on those that prey upon
and harm children. Uh and for and there they're sympathetic
to child predators. But the reason I think that this
has to we have to step it up. And even
you know, if it gets ruled on constitutional, let let

(31:28):
the let the that be on the judge that decides that.
But I'm telling you we should have the severest penalties
because I think it's more prevalent. I hate to say it,
but when you see the stories of this judge and
this fire chief up in what is a box elder
that were preying upon children, I think that's I think
there's an underbelly in this society and in the in
the culture, and the influence to prey upon and harm

(31:50):
children is growing. The evil is growing. And if we
don't have something that could create a real chilling effect,
if if death penalty by firing squad if you get
caught doing this, convicted of doing this doesn't have a
chilling effect. I don't know what would, but there should
be something that that gets We have to up our
game if we're going to see this evil spreading even

(32:11):
more and more, and I think it is spreading more
and more.

Speaker 1 (32:13):
This would only be applied in extreme cases, I mean
very aggravated cases a right, not all of them, but
in extreme cases this could be considered by a judge
or a jury. And Greg, you and I we look
at the news every day, probably more than our listeners do.
I mean, our listeners are great listeners, but our job
is to go through all the news of the day
and determine what we think would be interesting to people.

(32:35):
A day does not go by Greg, I think where
we don't see an unbelievable story about a child being abused. Yes,
And I have a friend. He was a judge and
a prosecutor in the San Diego area for years. One
of his he served for for a while as a
prosecutor in the Sex Abuse of Children division. Whatever they got,

(32:58):
he says, you know, he had to look at things,
he had to prosecute people and you wouldn't believe the
things that people do to children.

Speaker 2 (33:07):
It's yeah, it's it's it's unthinkable. And here's the thing
with the darknt not just the way technology is given.
If you had the worst of instincts, what it will feed?
What the what the what technology will feed the devils
that run around I'm telling you, I just think that kids,
and then that's the that's the dark net, that's the underbelly.

(33:28):
Then we live in a society now that where people
are openly Yeah in min I'm going to tell you
chemical castration to children is praying on children, okay, And
somehow we've society has attempted to normalize that and said, no,
that's fine, that's that's a ten year old that thinks
they're a girl. Now, so yeah, chemist castrate them.

Speaker 1 (33:49):
I mean, come on, well, look what's going on in Colorado.
Colorado democrats are now saying if a parent interferes in
the transition of their child to a different sect, that
child could be taken away from them.

Speaker 2 (34:00):
Yeah, it's I mean, what are we.

Speaker 1 (34:02):
Doing to children today? And what Idaho is tempting to do? Now,
this again would be only in extreme cases, but judges
and juries would be allowed to consider the death penalty
for a pedophile. Sure, I am all in favor of it.

Speaker 2 (34:14):
I am too, because I'll tell you this. If you
have if you have states that want to take laws
like that, and they want to keep attacking these kids,
then there has got to be firewalls raised that that
that push against child predators and those that would in
the most you know, I'm not I'm not thrown around
the death penalty loosely here at all. In fact, I
actually sometimes worry about the death penalty in terms of

(34:35):
government getting it wrong and and and all that. But
I will tell you this, when it comes to children,
if we don't make it, if we don't have commensurate
penalties for these crimes against these kids, you got the
other side trying to soften it every single day, every time,
and trying to make it more socially acceptable every minute
of every day.

Speaker 1 (34:55):
Now, Idaho, you mentioned, Idaho is ready for legal challenges.
They said, this is going to be challenge. As a
matter of fact. They they bring up this fact that
given I think it was in what year was it?
Two thousand and eight? The Supreme Court, the nation's highest court,
ruled five to four decision that sentencing a pedophile to
death for raping a child is unconstitutional in cases where

(35:18):
the victim was not killed.

Speaker 2 (35:20):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (35:20):
Well, well, and I think the court's wrong on that.

Speaker 2 (35:23):
Well, I'm to be roal, I'd make that judge have
to make that case again because.

Speaker 1 (35:26):
He's act that was Anthony Kennedy. You at the time
was a member of the US Supreme Court.

Speaker 2 (35:30):
Yeah, so so if it was was he? So the
Supreme Court already decided on that.

Speaker 1 (35:36):
Yeah, but you know, but they're going to challenge it again.
Idaho is ready to face a legal challenge and bring
this up again, and they make very strict conditions on
this for this to be considered by a joke.

Speaker 2 (35:47):
So the aggravating factors, just so you know, I mean,
it's the the victim was kidnapped, or that there was
great bodily harm to the child, that they engage in
human trafficking, they were selling this child, and if I
was already a registered sex offender and in a position
of trust or supervisory or disciplinary power over the victim. Anyway,

(36:11):
it just goes on on. These aggravating factors are do
these all have to happen? All of them have to happen,
or there has to be a combination.

Speaker 1 (36:18):
I think there has to be a company. We've got
the reporter who dug into the story coming up in
the six Colock Coward to go deeper into this, maybe
explain some of this, but I just want to you know,
I covered when I was a journalist at the time,
a couple of child abuse cases and they're sickening.

Speaker 2 (36:34):
Yep.

Speaker 1 (36:35):
As you go through a trial and listen to what
they do. This is what Kennedy wrote back in two
thousand and eight, Greg, listen to this. The death penalty
is not a proportional punishment for the rape of a child,
and he added, in most cases, justice is not better
served by termining ading the life of the perpetrator rather
than confining him and preserving the possibility that he and

(36:58):
the system will find ways to allow him to understand
the enormity of his offense. But he sits and thinks
about it for the rest of his life.

Speaker 2 (37:08):
Well, and again, we're not talking every circuit. There's there's
very you know, gradations of of this of what this topic.
All of it's bad, all of it's evil, But we're
talking in the most extreme cases that this autist extreme cases.

Speaker 1 (37:23):
Yeah, so we want we want to find out from
you today, and maybe there's a victim of child abuse
out there who would like to say, let me give
you my opinion on this. We'd like to hear your opinion.
Is Idaho right in doing what they're trying to do
when it comes to child molesters in extreme cases, a
judge or a jury would be able to consider the

(37:43):
death penalty right or wrong. Eight eight eight five seven
o eight zero one zero eight eight eight five seven
o eight zero one zero. Are on your cell phone
dial pound two fifty and say hey, Rod, your calls
and comments coming up on the Rotten Gregg Show. We're
getting your reaction to this new Idaho Idaho law and
what it says in extreme cases child molesters can now

(38:04):
be marched in front of a firing squad in Idaho,
and we're getting your reaction to that. Eight eight eight
five seven eight zero one zero, or on your cell phone,
dal pound two fifteen, say hey Rod.

Speaker 2 (38:14):
So let's go right to our great listeners. Let's go
to Derek from Orum. Derek, thank you for holding. Welcome
to the Rod and Greg Show. What do you think
about this Idaho You guys.

Speaker 5 (38:24):
Hey, guys, thank you so much for bringing this up.
All I can say is God bless Idaho. Yes, my
deal is the death penalty does detour because they're not
there to repeat. But the thing is that I watched,
as I've been watching because I'm a teacher, this is

(38:45):
this is so close to my heart because I deal
with these kids and I watch them suffer. And I
watched the documentary where these pedals came out and said,
you can't release me. I this is all I do,
This is all I think about. I cannot be reshabilitated.
If you put me out there. This is going to

(39:07):
happen again. And the higher degree of punishment, that's exactly
what it needs because you have people, we have men there.
They are trusted by these children, and they take advantage
of the innocence. Okay, why should we pay for their choices,

(39:29):
point Derek, And for the life of the for that
life of prison. Why should we pay for that when
they chose to be evil?

Speaker 2 (39:37):
Godspective too. As a teacher, you've seen these kids some
of the aftermath. Let's go to Tyler in Salt Lake City. Tyler,
thank you for holding. Welcome to the Ron and Greg Show.

Speaker 10 (39:49):
Yeah, thanks for having me. I completely agree with the
Idaho statute and the Idaho decision. I think the effects
are very, very far, far reaching. I think the science
and the understanding of the effects of those pedophiles on
the kids he is understood by almost everybody. You don't
need science to tell you if the kid's molested or

(40:10):
or somehow assaulted as a child, that it doesn't ripple
through the rest of their life. And agree with their
previous caller, why should we pay for those guys? I
think you fast tracked that process, and when the verdict
comes guilty, I think it's a step out the door
and whack them and put them down.

Speaker 1 (40:27):
Yeah, yeah, all right, Tyler. There are a lot of people, Greg,
and again this is in extreme cases, and we can
outline some of the stipulations on this as matter of fact,
when we bring the reporter on who's been looking into
this story a little bit later on in the show,
he can kind of outline some of this. But I
think if you do understand this, you know this. I

(40:48):
just think of these poor kids and their families and
living through this, and is this a solution? Who knows.
Let's go to Edin Murray, see what he has to
say on this tonight, ed, how are you welcome to
the Rotten Gregg Show.

Speaker 7 (41:02):
I'm doing great, thank you.

Speaker 13 (41:05):
Uh.

Speaker 7 (41:05):
I totally agree with the boys or the Iahole uh
call on on the death penalty, but uh, where is
extreme at one point? And what about kids who are
beaten and uh got broken bones and uh you know,

(41:28):
brain brain injuries and uh, I think those should be
included to.

Speaker 2 (41:36):
Yeah, it's hard, you know, and I and I agree.
I well, let me see what I agree with. I
know what, especially when he talks about brain injuries or
or broken bones. I mean, I mean again, we're just talking.
What we want is we want reasonable uh barriers to
protect children. I mean we want we want laws and
penalties and that would be have a chilling effect to

(41:56):
dissuade someone from wanting to harm a child for fear
if they did it and got caught that that the
severest of penalty would be coming their way. Anything, because
the other side is making it I think more palatable,
more available. I think the other side is preying upon
children at a higher rate.

Speaker 1 (42:13):
All right, we've got a lot of calls coming in
on this. We're going to take a brief break and
then come back so the callers who are waiting you
can stay on or give us a call back. We'd
love to get your opinion on this. Please talk about
an Idaho law which basically says, under extreme circumstances, a
child molester could face the firing squad that's coming up.
More your comments here on the Rodd and Gregg Show
and Talk Radio one O five to nine k NRS.

Speaker 2 (42:36):
I'd hope past the law that allows for the death
penalty by firing squad for the abuse of child rapists,
of those that prey upon and harm these children, these pedophiles.
So what say you? We've been getting some good comments,
some good commentary about this Idaho law. Let's go to

(42:56):
doctor c Y Roby Woodland Hills, a doctor, Thank you
for holding. Welcome to the Rodd and Greg Show.

Speaker 12 (43:03):
You bet, can you hear me?

Speaker 1 (43:04):
You sure can go ahead?

Speaker 12 (43:08):
Yeah, So, basically, I've been working with sexual offenders for
close to fifty years. I was the one that designed
the prison's original sex offender treatment programs, and I've worked
for the Board of Pardons, et cetera. So my entire
professional career has pretty much been and evaluating sexual offenders

(43:30):
and as far as the death penalty goes, I guess
you'd first have to really understand before you could I
could formulate an opinion. What is an extreme case according
to the law?

Speaker 2 (43:43):
Yeah, doctor sod.

Speaker 12 (43:44):
Because all of a sudden, member that some of these
kids that are being sexually abused have been sexually abused
by a parent or a relative, and it would devastate
the child to have the parent or relative put to
death for what they did. So I guess, But how
basically extreme is defined in the law.

Speaker 1 (44:05):
Well, here's what we know so far, doctor, and maybe
this will shed a little bit more light on it.
The victim was kidnapped, the pedophile caused great bodily harm
to the victim. The pedal file was engaged in human trafficking.
The pedophile was already a registered sex offender. The pedophile
was in a position of trust, the victim let's see,

(44:27):
used coersion and or and the victim was choked choked
during the commission of the lude conduct. That's a few
of the stipulations that they make in this law.

Speaker 12 (44:38):
Yeah, but do they all have to be in place
in order for it to be an actor or just
one or two of them?

Speaker 1 (44:43):
I'm not sure.

Speaker 2 (44:44):
That you know, describe it to a question doctor. They say,
these are the aggravating circumstances where this could be, this
type this punishment could be considered. Let me ask you
this because we've had this observation made by some of
our callers, and you you have spent and I'll tell
you this is a rough place to spend your profect career.
And so you're it sounds like you're just trying to
serve people and help people as best you can. Are

(45:06):
there people that can recover from this? We've heard that
if people have been damaged this way, the way this
has happened, or for whatever reason that's happened, that there
it's very difficult to lead a normal life after being
a child predator. Have you do you have success stories?
Can people change from this?

Speaker 6 (45:23):
Yeah?

Speaker 12 (45:23):
Absolutely? In fact, let me just give you this information.
When I first started work in at Utah State Prison
after my internship and residency, about seven percent of the
offenders that we had at Utah State Prison were in
there for a sexual offense. I believe the last time
I check on the number, it's about twenty seven percent.

Speaker 2 (45:44):
Wow.

Speaker 12 (45:45):
But of those that, for example, we're in a treatment
program that I designed, and we worked with them. We
did a five year follow up through the Department of
Corrections and found that fewer than one and a half
percent reoffended. But there's a few things that need to
be understood in regards to that. A lot of people think, well,
maybe our treatment has gone a lot better. I don't

(46:06):
believe it really has. I believe we've gotten better at
evaluating offenders and determining who's an exclusive pedophile that's only
interested in children from somebody who is a non exclusive pedophile,
which is a vast majority of them. And normally, if
I evaluate somebody and I've now evaluated more than ten thousand,

(46:28):
more than any other evaluator in the country, what we've
found is that if we can successfully determine whether or
not they're an exclusive pedophile versus a non exclusive pedophile
exclusive pedophile, I do not recommend basically treatment outside of
the prison.

Speaker 1 (46:48):
Really, they need to be locked up.

Speaker 12 (46:49):
And locked up usually for the rest of their life,
is the way I.

Speaker 8 (46:53):
Look at it.

Speaker 1 (46:54):
All right, well, doctor, thank you for joining us and
sharing that information. It's really interesting to get his perspective.
Ten thousand cases he's treated.

Speaker 2 (47:01):
Sure, that's tough. Wow, that sure is okay, let's go
back to your calls. Let's go to Sean and provo. Sean,
thank you for holding. Welcome to the Ron and Gregg Show.

Speaker 14 (47:11):
Yes, thank you for your time. I appreciate it. It's
a tough topic. A couple of points I wanted to raise. One,
having a military background, law enforcement background within the military,
within the use of force continuum, if we were to
witness somebody who was being raped, we were authorized to
use Dadley force to stop that incident.

Speaker 2 (47:31):
Wow.

Speaker 14 (47:31):
And so I know the use of force between military
and civilian law enforcement doesn't always carry over, but I
feel like that's a really notable point. The second point
that's relatively related I'd raise is that if somebody were,
for example, to try and rape myself, I would feel
justified in using lethal force to prevent the commission of

(47:51):
that act. And so I think that's a related, relevant point.
And the final thing. The final thing I'd raise is
that and the previous Supreme Court decision, they clearly did
not weigh the price of discouraged abuse one person's life
in a serious case, paying the death penalty that threat

(48:12):
being over somebody's head. How many lives does that save?
How many, how many victims does it be abused by
prevention and not weighing that as part of it. It
seems like a myths to me.

Speaker 2 (48:23):
I love the comments by Sean. I love the military
as perspective, and even if you put the situation on
yourself and to what degree are you able to protect
yourself deadly for us if necessary for yourself to be protected.
I hear what he's saying, and I do hope there
would be a chilling effect. This would. This would because
it's coming from the other side so strong, uh where,

(48:45):
and it's being normalized in so many bizarre, bizarre ways,
uh in society that I do think we have to
find some way to discourage this. Let's go to Mark
an Eagle Mountain. Mark, Welcome to the Rod and Greg Show.
Let's say you sir?

Speaker 15 (49:00):
Well.

Speaker 10 (49:02):
Uh.

Speaker 16 (49:02):
I had a former state legislator tell me that child
sex crimes are victimless crimes. And I asked him to explain,
and he says, one, they're not an adult, and two
they can't vote.

Speaker 2 (49:20):
You're hitting Well, yeah, having been around Yeah, you know
m Yeah, text me message me his name. I want
to know that is after not on their show. Yeah,
I want to know who that is. That's a terrible
thing to someone to say, he.

Speaker 1 (49:33):
Is sure, is all right? Thank you for your call,
Mark all right, more of your calls coming up. It
is the Rod and Greg Show right here on Utah's
talk radio one oh five dime can arrest eight eight
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Speaker 2 (49:45):
Let's keep going. Let's talk to hol and say and
Salem how thank you for waiting. Welcome to the Riding
Greg Show. What say you?

Speaker 4 (49:53):
I just want to make a couple of points. My
wife and I moved down here from Idaho five and
a half years ago, proud of the legislation that Idaho
has brought in with this death penalty. My wife was
a thirteen year victim of child abuse and that was
when she was a little girl until she was a teenager,
and she we're sixty five now and we still suff

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the consequences of that, so it never goes away. A
little bit of a rebuttal, not really a rebuttal, but
something towards what that doctor said about the low repeat
rate in the state of Utah. Of all the cases
that are reported, only about six percent actually go to court.

(50:36):
And of those six percent, only three percent lead to
a conviction. So those are some very very low numbers.
I think we need. I think we've got problems here
in the state of Utah. That the abuse is rampant.
I hate to say that, but it is.

Speaker 1 (50:55):
Yeah, and I've heard that too, Helen. Thank you for
your phone call. I startling toatistics on that. Thank you.

Speaker 2 (51:01):
Well, all you need to know is when you see
that judge in that fire chief together and together communicating
and talking about the planning and the desire to and
probably the abuse of children. I mean, to what degree
it all happened. These are two members of incredible trust
in the community, and if it happens there man anywhere.

Speaker 1 (51:21):
Yes, Michelle in provo, Let's see what she has to
say tonight, Michelle, Welcome to the Roden Gregg Show.

Speaker 17 (51:27):
Ah, thank you. First, I want to say I stand
behind that bill. I'm excited for that bill. I think
it sets the standard for the severity of this crime
that it is, and so that that helps and goes
along the way for people like in California or something.
You trying to diminish that. Yes, but so I'm for
sure agreed that it's a great thing. But my concern

(51:51):
would be with it, that these family members or neighbors
or community or schools that would fight back and push
back again the parents or the children being able to
speak out and putting that pressure on them because they
would essentially be putting that person on death row. So
I think that, you know, it might turn into maybe

(52:12):
a discouraging thing where these kids can't say all of
it because that's put on them or their family members
or whatever. And you know, if it's an uncle or brother, whatever.
I just worry that we get less people speaking up
because they're afraid of the consequences for their family members
or neighbors or Yeah.

Speaker 2 (52:30):
All right, Michelle, it's again, it's such such an incredibly
messy topic. There is that chilling effect maybe from people
coming forward. But I hope we get to a place
where we can where people can be you notify the
right the authorities, because we don't want it to continue.

Speaker 1 (52:46):
Well, would the child even know? Well, now, the worst
would be.

Speaker 2 (52:51):
You would just is that victim got older. They would
then be able to tell or would tell have the
courage to tell. It's a Again, this is a tough
time topic.

Speaker 1 (52:59):
All right, Let's go to Brandan in Midvale. Brandon we've
got just about a minute. What say you on this?

Speaker 4 (53:05):
I applaud I hope for this.

Speaker 15 (53:09):
My wife was a victim of sexual assault which she
was a child, from a police officer.

Speaker 4 (53:18):
And if the law isn't I.

Speaker 15 (53:22):
Have three kids still living at home and if anyone
harmed any of my children in that way, if the
law isn't going to do something to put these perpetrators
in the ground, I will Yeah.

Speaker 2 (53:38):
Well that's a father, I'm telling you, that's how that's
how fathers feel.

Speaker 1 (53:42):
Yeah, that first hand experience with this because of what
has happened to his wife and dealing with this.

Speaker 2 (53:48):
So, yeah, this is a tough topic without without exception,
our callers are always bringing some insight into these things
and maybe some empathy.

Speaker 1 (53:56):
Now, when we come back, we're going to talk to
the reporter who wrote about this story in the Blade.
You have more details for you, so we invite you
to stay with it. Said The Rod and Greg Show
rolls around or along, oh wherever on this Tuesday. We'll
be back after a news update. With that, we always
talk about how smart our great listeners are right in

(54:19):
the world. Why you have been called out by.

Speaker 2 (54:21):
One Yes listener called me out? And I am guilty
as charged. In the four o'clock hour, we were interviewing
Jeff Mordock about the benefits some some industries that will
benefit from the tariffs, and one are the shrimpers. Yes, now,
I ha said that in Texas and Louisiana, some of
these shrimpers, we're getting their shrimp from the Gulf of Mexico.

(54:45):
And I did not say the Golf of America. And
our listener said, I think you're made a mistake. I
think you and the AP you know, need to quit.
You need to get on the right side with Trump.
And I am I'm guilty as charged. And I didn't
mean it was a It was a I was just
it's kind of habit. We used to call it that.
So but I'm all I know, I am a fred G.

(55:07):
Sandford and the rest of this listening audience, they are
just appalled that I called it that it is the
Gulf of America.

Speaker 1 (55:13):
It sure is.

Speaker 2 (55:14):
I am sorry, all right.

Speaker 1 (55:16):
Last we had a number of great callers. We were
talking about this bill up in Idaho in which child
molester could possibly be marched in front of a firing
squad and Idahope, quite a reaction from our listeners. Well,
we wanted to go to the source of this story.
His name is Joseph McKennon. He is with the Blades.
He wrote about this. That's where That's why I grabbed
our attention. Joseph, How are you welcome to the Rod

(55:38):
and Greg Show. Thanks for joining us, Thanks for having me. Joseph,
give us the background if you would on this story.
How did how did this law come about?

Speaker 13 (55:50):
Well, taking a step back, twenty twenty three, the state
authorized firing squads as an alternative to lethal injection. And
last year they kind of bungled the lethal injection of
Thomas Creech, right, they got a couple of veins, the
veins collapsed, and so firing squad seemed like a better idea,
and so in March Governor Lettle ratified legislation making the

(56:15):
firing squad the default setting, so more humane than a
wood chipper, pretty straight into the point. And then along
comes this legislation, or rather the final stages of it,
House built three eighty and that was sponsored by Republican
state Reps Bruce Scogg and Josh Tanner. And the idea

(56:35):
effectively is that child rapists. You know, it's one of
the most heinous, if not the most heinous crime you
know you could think of, and you don't want to
think of it. Everyone wants to slap them with the
ultimate punishment. And so even though the ACLU and a
couple of grievance groups raised alarm and clutch pearls, it

(56:58):
passed with flying colors in both chambers, although there were
three Democrats opposed and two Republicans opposed in that state Senate.
And so this bill became law on April first, and
now child rapists can go before a firing squad. And
that's that.

Speaker 2 (57:19):
So I think that I think the reason this bill
is by the way our listeners unanimously. I think we're
all in support of this Idaho lot and I thought
very very supportive. But here's where I think that we
have to stop our game, like Idaho hast done. When
you reported that Colorado, the Democrats voted against a bill

(57:42):
that would make indecent exposure to a child of felony.
They killed another piece of legislation that would have mandated
minimum sentences for predators who buy children for sexual exploitation.
Governor knewsome I ratified legislation in twenty twenty that enabled
judges to go easy on non straight pedophiles convicted of
sex crimes against teenage miners. It just feels like Joseph,

(58:05):
it feels like the tide is going running against us,
that the attack on children, the preying upon children, is
just getting worse and in some cases even socially acceptable,
with you know, castrating kids, you know, because of gender
issues or whatever. Do you think that the firing squad
or a death penalty for these aggravated if you have
these aggravated circumstances in the crime, will have a chilling

(58:29):
effect and maybe prevent maybe have people think twice before
committing a crime against the child.

Speaker 13 (58:36):
Well, the's two things there, and I think that that
was a really interesting point, because you do have this balconization,
this polarization. Blue states are going one way. You know
that you hear the term minor attracted person, which you
know is a euphemism for a pedophile, someone who wants
to prey upon the innocent. You're seeing them in blue states,

(58:56):
they're seeing laxity of laws. And then in red states
such as Tennessee, in Florida and now Idaho, they want
to put them against the wall.

Speaker 4 (59:06):
And so.

Speaker 13 (59:08):
You have the country being torn between two extremes, and
I wouldn't actually argue this is extreme. I'd say this
is national law. But is this going to be a deterrent?
Some critics have suggested, and I think this is probably
one of the stronger criticisms of the bill. I don't
buy it necessarily, but it's one of the stronger ones.
Is that I would be a prospective child rapist might

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be induced by this legislation to kill his victim. He'll
have nothing to lose and perhaps something in his mind
to gain by eliminating the one witness and the victim,
and so I'm not not entirely convinced by that. Will
there be a chilling effect? I think in most circumstances,

(59:52):
where death is the inevitable outcome of your heinous actions,
some people may rethink the actions. Now, these people are pathological,
and these people are referring to pedophiles who I don't
believe can be rehabilitated. So I don't know if you

(01:00:14):
can really dissuade them from engaging in horrible actions, but
at least having along of books to dispatch with someone
who is inevitably going to re offend, it's helpful. Some
people have suggested this is a niche law. You know,
how many executions have there been in Idaho. The last
one is twenty twelve, so it's not a common practice.

(01:00:36):
But then you have the Alu again an opponent of
the bell saying that this is going to swamp the system.
And so that suggests to me, suggests that, Okay, perhaps
this is a more pervasive problem, and perhaps it could
be a solution that is the firing squad.

Speaker 1 (01:00:54):
Joseph. As you point out in your story, the US
Supreme Court has already ruled against a laws similar to this.
I would imagine Idaho is ready for some legal challenges.
There's no doubt they're coming their way.

Speaker 2 (01:01:04):
Correct, Yeah, that's right.

Speaker 13 (01:01:07):
So one of the sponsors of Bill Skogg, he fully
anticipates it. But what he suggested to his peers is that, well,
he intimated that the constitution of the Supreme Court today
is different than in two thousand and eight, and he
expects a different outcome should it come to that, and
it likely will, because again I mentioned Tennessee, if we're

(01:01:30):
to have similar laws in the books, and Alabama is
considering it. So none of the nine people on the
waiting list to get the five guns flu in Idaho
are child grapists, but as soon as you get one
in the queue, my guess is that's when it will
go through the courts and ultimately to the High Court.

Speaker 1 (01:01:50):
Joseph, fascinating story. Interesting to response from our listeners today
as well. Thanks for taking a few minutes and talk
about this story.

Speaker 13 (01:01:58):
Thank you, Thank all the best team.

Speaker 1 (01:02:01):
All right, thank you. That's Joseph McKinnon. He is a
staff writer of the Blades. He wrote the story about
John Molesters possibly be marched in front of a firing
squad in the.

Speaker 2 (01:02:11):
I I wish I could remember we had the I
I think I have voted for a bill like this.
I don't know if it's passed. I swear in my
time we had a bill.

Speaker 4 (01:02:22):
I do.

Speaker 2 (01:02:22):
I think I swear I voted for a bill like this,
but I I I can't look it up. I don't
know what year, and I don't know when to look
up to see when. But I've I've had discussions with
former colleagues where we've served together, where we've talked about.

Speaker 1 (01:02:38):
All right, more coming up on the Rod on Greg
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No, I like the ones that call and agree. I
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I like them to disagree with this challenges.

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Well the doctor. He gave a different perspective, having spent
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But but no, I of course I like. I like
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(01:03:21):
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I saw the time. I saw a new ad that
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is Washington d C watches this show.

Speaker 18 (01:03:38):
Oh well, there's that's one thing against you out. But
on the show yesterday, I mean this, uh, this guest,
I believe he's a Harvard professor totally imploded over Trump's
immigration policy but then exposed something that is absolutely hilarious.
His name, last name was Clode. I belie, No, he's

(01:04:01):
Princeton professor Eddie Klode g lau dee. I think it's
pronounced it. But listen to his reaction he was asked
about the immigration, he went ballistic. But then who's the hosted?

Speaker 6 (01:04:13):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (01:04:13):
Is it Nicole Russell whatever her name is on MSNBC.
She basically said, after he went on this rant, then
she said keep ongoing, and he did listen to what
he had to say.

Speaker 19 (01:04:30):
Who is more interested in loyalty, who's more interested in retribution?
Who's more interested in grift than in democracy? And we
chose a felon because we didn't want.

Speaker 2 (01:04:43):
To elect a black woman.

Speaker 19 (01:04:46):
So to read that, to actually explicate that is to
say we would rather destroy the republic than for that
to have happened. And until we grapple with it, there's
no amount of protesting I could do, There's no amount
of resistance that could come into play to actually force

(01:05:08):
seventy eight million people to grapple with what motivated them
to put themselves in this position.

Speaker 1 (01:05:15):
So we we voted for a felon, of course, saying
that Donald Trump is a felon because we didn't want
to elect a black woman. Now this is a Princeton professor.
This is what our our our kids were in higher
education are being taught.

Speaker 2 (01:05:36):
Yeah, and and and this is this goes back to
the pre twenty twenty four election where the left, leftists,
the regime media, they had they had spun themselves up
like you've heard this professor, where their worldview on everything.
If you did not subscribe to it, you didn't have
a different opinion, you suffered from a moral and intellectual failure.

(01:05:59):
There's just there is there's no room for any any
opinion that isn't theirs. And if you didn't agree with
who they won for president, then you hated women, you
were a misogynist, and you were a racist. And there's
and there's no amount of anything that's going to change that.
That that's just seventy eight million Americans that voted for
eighty million Americans vote for Trump are misogynists and racists.

(01:06:21):
That's why they did it.

Speaker 1 (01:06:22):
Now to counter that, on CNN, here we go with
Scott Jennings again and he provided a wonderful update on
the state of the country. In the state of the
Republican Party.

Speaker 11 (01:06:32):
This is new DNA for the Republican Party. That's why
you hear Republicans and business guys who've basically been Republicans
struggling with what to do, because the DNA of the
party for as long as any of us have been around,
has been tariffs are bad, taxes should be low, free markets,
et cetera. Done pretty well, so well well, but here,
but here's the flip side of that. Trump shows up

(01:06:54):
with different advisors and different thoughts about asking questions, how
well have we done? If you're a working ass you know, person,
and you've seen your job shipped overseas and you don't
have the same kind of opportunities that perhaps you thought
you were going to see, how well have certain segments
of our society done?

Speaker 1 (01:07:12):
Is wealth inequality?

Speaker 11 (01:07:13):
You know, because of some of these you know, trade
ideas over the years that have just seen jobs go
away from people who previously could get jobs and live
a comfortable middle class lifestyle. So accepting this new DNA
is going to be hard for some you mentioned Rand
Paul and Ted Cruz and others, you know, they've been
out there. Some are reluctantly accepting it, like John Kennedy,
others are running with it hard. How the party continues

(01:07:35):
to accept that will probably be closely related to whether
or not it works, you know, over the six to
nine months. That's why I thought Kennedy was being honest.
If it works, it'll be great, and if it doesn't,
we'll recalibrate.

Speaker 1 (01:07:44):
That's right, Scott. You know, I wondered about Scott Jennings,
who's really I think brilliant on CNN. How they treat
him at CNN. If you've thought about that, Greg, I mean,
he's the only conservative there. I've you know, I've heard
from people conservatives who've been asked to be on CNN
for interviews over the years, and they'll say, if you're

(01:08:04):
a conservative, even if you're a guest, you are treated
like dog meat. Yes, I wonder they don't treat you
very well at CNN if you don't agree with them.

Speaker 2 (01:08:14):
Yeah, And you know that's the that's the guy. I
always wonder how he survives in those in those in
those in that building because of that very thing. And
and CNN is this bad? I'm looking at something that
just that was that was reported today. CNN tried to
trick their viewers into thinking they had a conservative economist
that was ripping on Trump as stan Stan Vager is, Uh,

(01:08:36):
let's see conservative think tank says or Trump terriffs have
a math there. Well, then they they took the guy
and they looked at who who you contributed to us?
Because you're a conservative think tank. Uh Biden for president one, two, three,
four times? Act blue? Yeah, Act blue president. So the
guy's got these guys a long list of donations the Democrats,

(01:08:59):
Act Blue and conservative thing. He's the voice of a
conservative think tank, says CNN. That's that's who you would expect.
So Scott Jennings is, he's a breath of fresh air.
I don't know if that loses them viewers because they
don't want to hear the other side. They don't want
to hear that kind of logic.

Speaker 1 (01:09:13):
Maybe not maybe done? All right? More coming up on
the Roden greg Show, Our conversation with Utah Senator Mike
Lee is coming up next. Well time now for our
weekly conversation with Utah Senator Mike Lee. We spoke with
him earlier today. There's so much going on, but we
began the conversation today by asking about the Supreme Court
ruling allowing the president to send illegal criminals into l Salvador,

(01:09:35):
and we asked him. First of all, this ruling by
the Supreme Court yesterday was less constitutional and more jurisdictional.

Speaker 4 (01:09:43):
Yeah, ended up being a jurisdictional issue in the end.
But it all ties back to the fact that just Blosberg,
who I sometimes called Presidentsburg. You know, he has been
acting as if he were a president, and he's now
been removed from his presidential duty insofar as they relate
to Trendy Ironway, and President Trump, as a result, can

(01:10:05):
resume his presidential duties. The court sided with the Trump
administration and he's going to allow that Trump and his
team to continue removing Venezuela and Trendy Aragua gang members
from the country on the alien enemy side. Now, this
is a major win for national security and a major
win for the rule of law. That court affirmed that

(01:10:26):
the fact that the president has the authority to act
when America faces a threat from a foreign backed criminal organization.
Treadier Rodeways is not a refugee group, it is not
a charity group. It is a violent transnational gang. It's
a terrorist organization. And Trump was right to classify them
as an invading force, and the court largely agreed. Yes,

(01:10:48):
the Court added procedural guardrails, but it doesn't erase the
core ruling that the President can invoke wartime powers to
protect America. So it's no more left wing judges in
DC blog enforcement actions meant for Texas or the border.
That's a step in the right direction.

Speaker 1 (01:11:06):
Sunder Lee. You talk about procedural guardrails, I mean, is
the court indicating that some members of trend D or
AGUA do have right to do process? But if they're
here illegally, I didn't think they had any rights. Could
you explain that or elaborate on that a little bit more?

Speaker 4 (01:11:24):
Yeah, the Court didn't elaborate much. Basically, it was suggesting
that they ought to have the opportunity to seek abeas
corpus review. But again, what you're looking for in assessing
due process is quite literally, what process is due? And
with somebody who is here illegally to begin with, and
as a member of an international crime slash terror organization,

(01:11:47):
there's not a whole lot that's due. It's basically just
you know, if you got the right person, are the
facts as you deem them.

Speaker 6 (01:11:58):
To be.

Speaker 4 (01:12:01):
To be true? Government, and once that basic threshold level
is met, then they're free to do what they.

Speaker 9 (01:12:09):
Need to do.

Speaker 1 (01:12:10):
Is the court indicating by this ruling that they don't
like the idea of judge shopping? I mean, both sides
do this. I mean, but are they saying me, I
don't quit doing this friendly court thing, at least in
this particular case.

Speaker 4 (01:12:26):
I don't know that I would go back far and
reading it, I think that should send a signal in
some ways. But I think at the end of the day,
the court is there to call the balls and strikes
in the case before it, and in this case, their
decision was not really about judge shopping. It was about
making sure that they get the law right. Judge Bozberg

(01:12:48):
got the law wrong and they smacked him down for it.

Speaker 1 (01:12:51):
All right. There are questions being raised by some senderley
about Amy Coney Barrett, and again she sided with the
liberal justices in this rule, and it was a five
to four ruling. Your thoughts on the concern that some
conservatives are raising now about Amy Cony Barrett and where
she may fall on some very important decisions that are

(01:13:12):
coming up.

Speaker 4 (01:13:14):
Yeah, Look, anytime conservative justices, any conservative justice sides with
the liberal block. It raises eyebrows, and this is one
of those moments. Justice Barrett did not join the dissens
criticisms of Trump's policy on the policy merits, but she
did vote to slow down enforcement, and that's disappointing. If

(01:13:34):
Barrett continues down this path, then I suspect he'll be
growing concern and criticism of her among Republicans. But right now,
the Supreme Court's steadily reaffirming President Trump's legitimate authority to
secure the territorial boundaries of the United States. And as
we've discussed before, I've introduced legislation to speed up the

(01:13:55):
process and also prevent this judge shopping that you're talking
about out from sabotaging lawful executive branch functions. The bill,
as I think I mentioned last week, is called the
Restraining Traditional Insurrection Attact at twenty twenty five, Yeah, and
it would allow this type of nationwide injunctive relief request

(01:14:17):
to go before a three judge district court, and then
it would have an to be expedited by allowing an
automatic appeal directly to the Supreme Court.

Speaker 1 (01:14:27):
It's under lay of courts. The talk of the country
right now is the tariffs and what the President is doing,
how the President has said he's not budgeting, He's going
to stick with it. There are some Republicans who are
getting I guess you could describe it as a little
weak knee on all of this. Where do you stand
on this and should the President stand firm in your opinion?

Speaker 6 (01:14:46):
Right?

Speaker 4 (01:14:46):
Well, Look, in so far as President Trump uses this
as a chance to reduce tariffs and reduce other non
pair of trade barriers, I think this would turn out
to be a good thing. And I will put it
this way. If I was the leader of a foreign nation,
a foreign government, I would be racing, probably personally to

(01:15:12):
President Trump to talk to him in person. I'd be
on a plane flying to Washington, d C. To meet
with President Trump to cut that deal, because that would
be a really good deal. It'd be a good deal
for any foreign country that attends. It would be a
good deal for America. I hope if that's where President
Trump is going, and I told them that repeatedly, I
think if this ends up working out that way, and

(01:15:34):
by that way, I mean if if his tariffs is
temporary tariffs that he's got in place right now, if
those bring people to the table, and they result in
a series of multi of bilateral as opposed to multilateral
trade agreements that reduce tariffs and other non pair of
trade barriers. Then I think President Trump would go down

(01:15:54):
in history as one of the most pro growth, pro commerce,
and pro trade president in American history. I think that's
where he ought to take it. I hope that it
doesn't end up as a situation in which a temporary
tariff becomes a more permanent tariff and it culminates in
a full blown trade war, because no one wins trade wars.

(01:16:16):
Everyone loses, and we will see. The good news is
he's got He's got a number of people around him
who who agree with what I'm saying, which is that
he really should use this as leverage to bring a
breath about a better, more favorable trade arrangement for the
United States. And I think the way to do that
is told bilateral agreements, because when you do it through

(01:16:37):
multilateral agreements, they too quickly become they it's like a
race to the most to the least common denominator, and
they end up being much more about environmental regulations and
labor restrictions than anything else. What we need are our
free trade agreement and negotiated bilaterally. And I think that's

(01:16:57):
what this could bring us.

Speaker 1 (01:16:58):
And I think that's why Donald Trump is working on
right now. He's trying to get some trade agreements and
get this done.

Speaker 2 (01:17:04):
Look, I change you of all of all the papers
of New York Times putting out the number of countries
and the size of trade, and you have, really you
have China, the EU your opinion, and you have Canada.
They're the three. Everybody else says we're ready to work together.
Those three are the holdouts. And even EU's starting to

(01:17:28):
want to find a compromise. But I'm telling you, when
you look at how quickly that was in three business days,
you had all the world but those three, and they're
not small, but they are. But I think that I
think just give the man time to cook. I'm telling
you he's going to get this right. And he's the
only guy. If he doesn't do it, it's not going to happen.

Speaker 1 (01:17:44):
Yeah, nobody has the courage to do it.

Speaker 2 (01:17:46):
You got that gas bag, Chuck Schumer in two thousand
and five. He was talking exactly like Donald Trump. I
got it on a clip, but exactly talking about China
and how they his constituents in New York can't send
anything into that country, and we have to put a
terrif on him. And now listen to them. It's it's
so anyway, it's it's now or never.

Speaker 1 (01:18:03):
So all right, more coming up, final segment of the
Rod and Greg Show right here on Utah's Talk Radio
one O five nine k n RS.

Speaker 2 (01:18:11):
You know, and I started watching h I don't know
my TV. Just yeah, I just I was watching something
on Paramountain and I don't know the TV just said,
just threw on Top Gun. I just started watching it.

Speaker 1 (01:18:20):
Which one is better? I still chick?

Speaker 2 (01:18:24):
You know, it's the closest. Two is so so, so good.
It's the closest I've ever seen the liking like Gladiator.
Two doesn't hold a candle to it's a good movie,
but it doesn't even hold a candle. Maverick is so
close to Top Gun. But I gotta go with Top
Gun just because it was the Trailblazer. But man, Maverick
is right there, right there next to it. But I

(01:18:44):
watched it, and I'm telling you it ages so well
that show. It does. It's it's a it's a brilliant
It's okay, it's basically we we we won the Cold
War because of that movie. That's that's all I know.
So it's pretty much.

Speaker 1 (01:18:56):
Is there another movie that you stumble on that all
the said you just start watching.

Speaker 2 (01:19:01):
Yes, there's a few. I'm not gonna share.

Speaker 1 (01:19:04):
I'm with you.

Speaker 2 (01:19:04):
Which one, Well, when I Big Lebowski is one I
really love. That's a quirky, funny movie. I love that movie.
You don't like that movie?

Speaker 1 (01:19:10):
I have never seen it.

Speaker 2 (01:19:12):
I don't even know if it's your type of humor,
but I loved I love that. If that, if that
comes up, I freeze. I freeze on any Godfather, Yeah, God,
if I run into I'm there. Did the audience hear
him say that one?

Speaker 1 (01:19:29):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:19:30):
They didn't hear you. He always just whispers. He never
tells his movies to our blesting audience. That's a good one, though,
Godfather Mission impossible. I could breathe through those.

Speaker 1 (01:19:42):
Really, the newer James Bond with Dan Daniel Craig, those
are good. I really I like those. Used to be
hooked up on the Jason Bourne things. I've kind of
cooled on that a little bit.

Speaker 2 (01:19:54):
You know, now he's saying movies, what I.

Speaker 1 (01:20:02):
Want to know if he watches those over and over.

Speaker 2 (01:20:04):
No, yeah, he yeah, that's what he's trying to say. Oh,
I know, for just just watch Inside baseba Rockey movies.
I watched any well, one, two, and three and four
one maybe one, two, three, four and after four I
won't watch, but I like those four and it does
for us tonight.

Speaker 1 (01:20:18):
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