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April 2, 2025 89 mins
4:20 pm: Eireann Van Natta, Intelligence State Reporter for The Daily Caller joins the show for a conversation about her piece on how many of the judges ruling against the Trump administration have conflicts of interest.

4:38 pm: Samantha Nerove, a retired Army Colonel and now CEO of WorldStrat, joins the show to discuss her piece for the Federalist on how Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth is right to hold military men and women to the same fitness standards.

6:05 pm: Luke Rosiak, Investigative Reporter for The Daily Wire joins Rod and Greg to discuss his piece about how the federal job corps is a breeding ground for criminal activity.

6:38 pm: Joel Kotkin, Professor of Urban Studies at Chapman University, joins Rod and Greg for a conversation about his piece for The Spectator on the collapse of the green agenda.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
They were telling this story this morning or last night
when the news broke how Tom Cruise reacted when he
saw Vel Kilmore when they were making Top Gun Maverick,
and it really shook him up, he said, because he
was struggling, couldn't speak, but he pushed through it. He
wanted to do that movie, and Cruse was so glad
he did. But it really got to Cruise. I mean

(00:20):
it really impacted him.

Speaker 2 (00:21):
Well, you know, his appearance changed so much after he
got sick, and so yeah, it was you know he
looking at that now. I saw pictures of that movie
at Maverick and his role in that movie, and it
was really good. I mean it was. It was perfect
because it kind of tells that story where he passes. Yep,
he just passed not long after that movie. But I
have a so I don't do this, but I geeked out.

(00:43):
I was in DC back in twenty thirteen and you
met him. Yeah, saw, I just get this. He was
just standing there by himself at the curb. We were
kind of waiting for cars to pick us up, and
I was I had I brought my daughter Sophie with me,
and I look over and there's Belkilmer just standing there
like he just waiting, like there's no one. Isn't that
like people, It is no entourage, just standing there. So
I said, Iceman, Batman, doc, get a picture, and I

(01:10):
just and he just stood there and I don't even
think he agreed. He just he just kind of smiled.
He was like he was patient, very patient. And I
took the picture and I hadn't. I'm not a fan
boy that way, but it was Valca.

Speaker 3 (01:20):
That was you. That was a rush with greatness. They
have to remember it was.

Speaker 2 (01:24):
It was Yeah, I just I don't know when it was.
Oh it was December eleventh, twenty thirteen. Yeah, it's at
twelve thirty eight pm. So yeah, no you don't remember,
you know, I give or take a couple of seconds.
I don't remember, but I know I I was excited
to see him. And that was that in twenty thirteen,
was prior to his diagnosis of throat cancer cancer.

Speaker 1 (01:46):
But his daughter said he died in pneumonia. Yeah, that
was they were reporting today. Yeah, so it's kind of
fitting today that we would be doing Wingman Wednesday honoring
the Iceman.

Speaker 2 (01:56):
That's right, that's right. Grays movie grais movie of all
Time and not even a sequels. Second greatest movie all time. No,
nothing beats it. In fact, I told you pore it saved.
I mean, we defeated Cold War, was able to be
defeated because of top Gun in nineteen eighty.

Speaker 3 (02:10):
I didn't know that. I thought there were other factors.

Speaker 2 (02:12):
Record recruitment in the Navy.

Speaker 3 (02:14):
We thought there were other factors.

Speaker 2 (02:15):
Nope, that's it. That's just top Gun.

Speaker 3 (02:17):
All right, we have got a lot to talk about.

Speaker 1 (02:19):
We are going to talk here in just a minute
about the President's Liberation Day, as he declared today, imposing
a ten percent tariff on all countries, but more dealing
with certain countries. We'll get into that, and we'll share
with you a flashback. This is nothing new about what
Donald Trump has been saying. As a matter of fact,
he's been saying this almost word for word what he

(02:41):
said during the news conference today. We'll talk about that
a little bit later on. Of course, we're going to
about all these judges who actually think they're president and
the conflicts of interest they're running into.

Speaker 3 (02:52):
Pete Haigesath that says you want to be in the military,
we aren't doing.

Speaker 1 (02:56):
Any different standards. If you're a man or you're a woman.
You have to meet these standards to be a combat
ready soldier. We'll talk to a former member of former paratrooper,
and she says she absolutely loves the idea. What's up
with Elon Musk word today that he's going to be
leaving soon? The White House said, no, that's not the case.

(03:17):
But the Democrats are just giddy today, Greg because of
what happened in Wisconsin last night, going we beat the guy,
We beat the guy. He is the DEM's new boogeyman,
and I'm trying to figure out why they think that.

Speaker 2 (03:29):
And no, no good deed goes unpunished. This guy is
a complete patriot. He doesn't have to do any of this.
He's got a net worth where he could find an
island and live out the rest of his life and
generations from there, never having to worry about a single thing.
He could be his own government under himself. And yet
he does have I mean, he blew forty four billion
dollars on Twitter, knowing that they were all boughts. It

(03:50):
was worthless, but he did it because of free speech.
I think we have free I believe our free speech
is stronger. I think he brought people along whether it
was just practical for them. But guys like Zuckerberg and
even maybe Bezos came along with the program more because
of the leadership of Elon Musk. Doge is finding such
terrible corruption, just just theft of the public treasury like

(04:11):
we I could never have believed. Uh, And anyone has
a problem with him, how about a simple thank you
would be nice. Put a bow on it. I don't
know who else. This man is not elected, he's not
looking for your vote. He has businesses, successful businesses by
the way to run, and he's doing this for us.
And if I'll tell you what if if they create
a some kind of mentality I'm sitting looking at a poll.

(04:32):
We can get into it later in the show. But
if the people start to turn on Elon Musk saying
he's he's he's cutting, creating chaos, or Doge isn't good,
they're going too fast because DC goes too fast in
his cuts. I will tell you then all the all
the terror, domestic terrorism, to the Tesla dealerships, the cars,
everything they've been doing, they will have succeeded. If they

(04:53):
turn the people against this crusader, this guy that's been
helping this country in ways we've never seen so well.

Speaker 1 (05:00):
He's the DEM's new boogeyman. They think they defeated him
in Wisconsin because of that Supreme Court vote yesterday. So
he they are going if he leaves, and no indication
that he's going to be right away. But if he leaves,
who's going to be the next boogeyman? Do they go
back to Donald Tnald Trump?

Speaker 2 (05:18):
Tumb is enjoying higher rates because he's the tip of
the spear right now. They're going after him so much
that Donald Trump's actually faring better than he's ever done before.
As soon as they get him out of the way,
they'll go back to Trump. They're still going after Trump,
but that's that's who we'll get more of their wrath bit.
But I just the man is trying as hard as
he can, and for I think the right righteous reasons,

(05:39):
reasons of trying to save democracy. I hate using that term,
trying to save this republic, but really saving Western civilization
as we know it, the freedoms we have. He has
pointed out how much corruption there's been, more than he
ever imagined. If you remember just before, just take a
year ago today, he was a pretty late He didn't
speak in hyperbole. He still doesn't, but the way he

(06:02):
framed things were always kind of cautious. He's speaking in
more extreme terms. It's not because he's getting crazy. It's
because he is finding things that are pretty hard to
reconcile or to say in any other way than we're
in big trouble here. Yeah, that's what he's doing.

Speaker 1 (06:16):
Yeah, now we'll get into that with you in the
five o'clock hour. The President today announced his Liberation Day.
He called it a declaration of economic independence.

Speaker 4 (06:25):
My fellow Americans, this is liberation day waiting for a
long time. April second, twenty twenty five will forever be
remembered as today American industry was reborn, the day America's
destiny was reclaimed, and the day that we began to

(06:46):
make America wealthy again.

Speaker 1 (06:49):
President announced today a new ten percent tariff on all
foreign goods and steep reciprocal tariffts on specific nations. The
President imposed major levies on friendly countries, including twenty percent
on European Union members. According to Reuters, he said this
is one of the most important days, in his opinion,
in American history. He is trying greg to revitalize main

(07:12):
Street and to bring jobs back to America. And he's
been very upfront with the American people, basically saying, Greg
it's going to hurt. Got to get ready for some
higher prices here for a bit, but in the long run,
this in fact will benefit We're already starting to see
some country say, okay, we'll drop our tariffs because we
want your business in the United States.

Speaker 2 (07:31):
Well, here's a dirty little secret. When you hear he's
raising tariffs that would be from a one point six
percent tariff coming into the United States. Well, us what
we send out to them, they have anywhere from sixty
seven percent, ninety percent, fifty percent, seventy two percent. When
he's what he hassen when he's raised our teriffs independence
state today, every single relationship with every trading country in

(07:56):
the world, they still have a higher tariffs than us.
Right now, we haven't even got at best. Our best
case scenario is the reciprocal ten percent, and that's happening
in some countries. They've gotten they've gotten smart. But there
isn't any country where we have put protectionist terraffs above
and beyond anything that they have. We're not. We're not

(08:16):
even we don't keep even remotely close of pace with
what they tear the United States to keep us from
sending anything, to build anything, to manufacture anything, and to
send out to this global supply chain. Turns out that
thing is a one way as chain coming to us.
We're the consumers. We are not apparently allowed to produce anything.
We don't have enough. I don't think we produce enough

(08:38):
penicillia or any kind of drug for our own people
if we get sick, not for other countries.

Speaker 3 (08:43):
Not anymore.

Speaker 1 (08:44):
Well, the White House very smart, I think they quickly
send out a flashback of Donald Trump talking about this
years ago, this one he was on Oprah many many
years ago, let's say, him talking about trade back then.

Speaker 5 (08:57):
And yet we let Japan come in and dump everything
right into our markets and everything.

Speaker 2 (09:01):
It's not free trade.

Speaker 5 (09:02):
If you ever go to Japan right now and try
to sell something, forget about it, open, just forget about it.

Speaker 2 (09:06):
It's almost impossible. They don't have laws against it. They
just make it impossible.

Speaker 5 (09:10):
They come over here, they sell their cars, their VCRs,
They knock the hell out of our companies. And hey,
I have tremendous respect for the Japanese people. I mean
you can respect somebody that's beating the hell out of you,
But they are beating the hell out of this country Kuwait.

Speaker 2 (09:22):
They live like kings.

Speaker 5 (09:23):
The poorest person in Kuwait, they live like kings. And
yet they're not paying We make it possible for them
to sell their oil. Why aren't they paying us twenty
five percent of what they're making.

Speaker 2 (09:32):
It's a joke.

Speaker 1 (09:33):
Yeah, it is a joke. And he said this, I
think this back in nineteen eighty five, Breck. I mean,
he's been consistent all along. He has always railed against
America giving up its manufacturing strength.

Speaker 2 (09:44):
I know we've got to do a break, But just
contrast that, that's a Donald Trump from the eighties. Okay,
And you can go back find them with Field on
Who everywhere else, and you'll hear him talk about the
relationship with trade relationships and how they've always disadvantaged this country.
Mike penn'ce for vice president of Donald Trump in his
first term, puts out a post. Today's sixty nine percent
of Americans in this Fox newspapt or right, terroffs on

(10:04):
imports will make products even more that you buy even
more expensive. Here's the facts. American freedom and he's works for,
he's being paid by some group that doesn't want these tariffs. Well,
guess what, Vice President Pence, you had tariffs. You raised
tariffs on your watch when you were the vice president.
Do you not remember?

Speaker 3 (10:23):
Adly, he didn't.

Speaker 2 (10:24):
He doesn't remember any of it. So he can't keep
consistent over one from sixteen to twenty. He can't say
the same thing. This guy's saying the same thing since
the early eighties.

Speaker 1 (10:32):
Yeah, that's for sure, that's for sure. Did we make
history today? Was there a ruling by some crazy judge
in this country to stop Donald Trump from doing something today?
I don't recall a ruling coming up. Have you seen
one today?

Speaker 2 (10:46):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (10:47):
I I bring that up because it's very unusual.

Speaker 2 (10:50):
I will say that if I believe there is one.
If you haven't seen it, it's just if a tree
falls in the woods and we don't hear it, does
it still fall? Yes, there is a ruling out there.
Judge has absolutely just cut off the poor president's knees
out from under him, because that's what they've been doing
on a daily basis every day.

Speaker 1 (11:07):
Well, these judges who are ruling against the president have
numerous and we do mean numerous conflicts of interest. Joining
us on our Newsmaker line right now is Aaron Vanatta.
She is an intelligent state reporter with the Daily Color.
She's been digging into this. Aaron, thanks for joining us.
Stuff noon, What do you have found out?

Speaker 6 (11:24):
Yeah, well, your listeners are probably familiar with James Bosberg,
or at least the case that he just blocked. He
blocked the Trump administration from using the Alien Enemies Act,
which is this wartime law that would essentially allow the
administration to expedi deportations of gang members from Venezuela, the
Gang Trend de Agua or TDA. And this judge blocked

(11:48):
the administration from using the Alien Enemies Act, and so
Trump took the truth social almost like this is a
conflict of interest because this judge actually attended a mock
trial in twenty twenty too with Doug m Hof Kamala
Harris's husband. But that doesn't just stop there. If you
go through this guy's past and you start looking through

(12:11):
you know, his past rulings, I mean, I mean one
thing I should note, actually he was just assigned to
a lawsuit that was filed against officials in the signal
chat that was leaked regarding the chat about the you know,
strikes against the who He's and Yemen were The Atlantic
editor in chief was inadvertently added to that chat, so

(12:32):
he was just assigned to that lawsuit. But he's kind
of been involved in, you know, working against Trump administration
for some time now, even going back to twenty sixteen,
where he was sort of involved in the release of
Hillary Clayton's emails. He actually ruled that the majority of
her emails would not become public until after election day,

(12:55):
which I think is noteworthy. But it's not just him.
His wife. Not only is she a Democratic donor, but
she also founded an abortion clinic recently here in Virginia,
And uh so that that's kind of interesting, which you.

Speaker 7 (13:14):
Could argue that's a conflict of interests just in the
sense that this family is clearly very much on the left,
and you know, his rulings for the most part have
been pretty consistently against.

Speaker 6 (13:27):
The Rump administration. So I don't think it's unfair to
call him out and say that he has conflicts of
interests here.

Speaker 8 (13:34):
You know.

Speaker 2 (13:35):
The the part that's killing me is that you you
can just to forget six degrees of separation with Kevin Bacon,
we can play two degrees of separation to an NGO
or nonprofit that that somehow finds federal money is paying
family members a fortune and as they, as a Democrat,
shop for judges. It's these judges almost on a daily basis,

(13:59):
that are making rulings that are where they're acting like
the president of the United States. They're they're they're they're
deciding that what President Trump's doing isn't going to be done.
They're putting temporary restraining orders on it. Do you see
when when does the nonsense end? I mean, it's so blatant.
You've pointed out such glaring conflicts that nobody seems to
care about. But because it's not just this judge, it's

(14:21):
all of them. When does the Supreme Court weigh in?
Or do they? And I mean, I I just would
love to know when when does seven hundred federal or district, yeah,
federal district judges stop becoming president of the United States.
Do you have any idea?

Speaker 6 (14:36):
That's that's a great question. And I mean, you know,
it's not just this judge, Like, there are so many
judges out there. I know in my article, another one,
judge Amy Burman, Jackson. She was the one who sentenced
to Roger Stone, Trump's former advisor, in more than three
years in prison. She's donated to a couple of Democrats,
including Bill Clinton, and she's been very critical Trump as well. So,

(15:01):
I mean, in terms of the Supreme Court getting involved,
you could argue that judges are supposed to act, as
you know, there are tempt on the executive but I
think it's been clear from what we're witness seeing that
this isn't just sort of an impartial judge acting as
a check of the president's power.

Speaker 2 (15:16):
We're saying, I mean, these.

Speaker 6 (15:17):
Are these are activists. So in terms of Supreme Court
getting involved, I'm not sure how much I personally can
comment on that. But even with regards to the Supreme courts,
I mean, they don't always rule in favor of the
current administration or what you know, a lot of conservatives would.

Speaker 9 (15:37):
Like to see.

Speaker 6 (15:38):
Although speaking of the Supreme Court, actually this mock trial
that these judges were at, former Justice Stephen Bryer was
also in attendance, and he recently was on CNN defending
these judges who were ruling against Trump administration.

Speaker 10 (15:55):
So that's kind of interesting.

Speaker 1 (15:57):
Aaron, and you may be able to answer this one
or not as well. About as these judges go through
the confirmation process, how often are these so called conflicts
of interest ever brought to their attention or become part
of their approval process, because, like you pointed out, it
seems like almost every judge in the country anymore has
a conflict of interest and nobody is raising questions about it.

Speaker 6 (16:20):
Well, a lot of these judges they have very i
guess you could say, impressive backgrounds, right, Like a lot
they go to Ivy League schools, They you know, have
all these connections. So I think kind of on paper,
you look at their qualifications and they seem like they
would be fit for the job if that's what you're
looking for, you know, like a good degree, things of

(16:41):
that nature.

Speaker 7 (16:42):
So I'm not sure that in terms.

Speaker 6 (16:43):
Of the confirmation process, people are actually digging in being like, oh,
you have these conflicts of interest, at least on the left,
I would not be shocked.

Speaker 2 (16:52):
That's so you read my mind. I was going to say,
that is exactly the game, the state of things, as
long as it's a left of center or a Democrat
appoint president appointed a judge. The if you were to
say you know this judge, he gave a lot of
money to Donald Trump's campaign. His wife works for a
pro life organization. And if you went down the line

(17:15):
of the things that and I think they have done
this to judges if they have any kind of tethered
in any way to Donald Trump or the Republican Party
or to conservative causes, they have immediately demanded that those
judges recuse themselves or not be a part of any process.
And then it's just crickets if it's on if it's
the other side of that coin. I appreciate your article

(17:38):
because you bring these things to light. But are we
just gonna I'm just looking for normalcy. Just if we're
just gonna rip on all judges, conservative or Democrats, then
let's just do it even handedly. If we're gonna say
they're all credentialed and we you know, they come from
good schools and we shouldn't question it, then we shouldn't
question it from either side either. But we don't get
either of those scenarios. We get one of the It

(17:58):
always works for the Democrats. In my mind, does it
ever change?

Speaker 6 (18:03):
I think it could change. What you're seeing right now
is we have you know, Republicans have the House, the Senate,
we have the presidency. It could have potentially change. I
think there's been a shift in just the culture. Actually,
Senator Jim Banks, I'm sure your listeners may have seen
this fire on.

Speaker 10 (18:20):
Video where this.

Speaker 6 (18:24):
Fired bureaucract kind of ask them, oh, you know I
was fired, and Jim Banks was like that you probably
deserved it.

Speaker 9 (18:33):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (18:34):
But the reason I bring that up is because there's
been such a shift in the culture, but also how
the people, at least kind of the Republicans and government
are sort of conducting themselves. They seem a bit more impressive,
so we could potentially see some action. I think in
the past Republicans have sort of seen this as like
a neutral playing field. We don't you know, we're gonna

(18:56):
because I mean, not just judges you look at, you know,
confirming the Director of National Intelligence for example, the CIA.

Speaker 11 (19:05):
Most Republicans will vote.

Speaker 6 (19:06):
For Democratic nominees. Democrats won't do that. They are like
lock step, like a military. They won't vote for the Republicans.

Speaker 1 (19:17):
On our newsmaker line, Aaron van Nada. She is an
intelligence state reporter with The Daily Caller, talking about the
judges and the conflicts of interests more the Rod and
Greg Joe coming down. Should they be held to the
same physical standards as each other? That's changed over the years,
but Pete Haig Seth wants to change that now. Great,
you never were in the military, were you?

Speaker 2 (19:36):
I was not? But I have family members that were
and same here military family in the Navy and a
grandfather in the Army. So I've always revered our military.
Yeah since the little boy.

Speaker 9 (19:48):
Well.

Speaker 1 (19:48):
Joining us on our Newsmaker line to talk about this
today is Samantha Narov. She is a former paratrooper, apparently
Army paratrooper, who wrote about this today. Samantha, thank you
very much for joining You know, what do you think
of this idea of Pete Haigseeth?

Speaker 12 (20:03):
Because we need to have a military fighting force that
is one standard for everyone, so that when the job
needs to be done, it's not about who's stronger, who's weaker,
who can or who can't. It levels the playing field
and makes us a lethal fighting force, and that is
Secretary Hexits goal.

Speaker 2 (20:21):
Can I ask you, I love it, by the way,
I'm all in on this, and I love that you're
a veteran. You're not speaking from some philosophical place. You've
lived this, you know exactly what you're talking about. Are
there are there roles within the military, however, that there
isn't a shoulder to shoulder comparison and strength or or
or whatever qualities it would it would be needed to
protect this country. Does that exclude genders from certain duties?

(20:46):
If you if you're putting all the qualifications that need
to be the same, it.

Speaker 12 (20:51):
Doesn't exclude gender. What it does is it makes the
mission the priority, not a focus on gender. When we
folks's on gender, we're talking about who's stronger, who's weaker,
who can and who cannot. So I think that's the
wrong question when and that's what everybody's asking. Where what
the way we're addressing this is, let's focus on the mission. Now.

(21:15):
What he has said is combat arms there will be
one standard, and that is a dividing line that's going
to be critically important going forward because when you just
said shoulder to shoulder and fighting forward, we're talking about
a lot of our combat arms units and we need
to know that people who are in those jobs have

(21:37):
the physical capacity to do the job in front of them.

Speaker 2 (21:40):
I actually love that. I want to fall up because
you're right. The question I asked is the one that
you hear. But I love your answer because you're saying, look,
if you can't do a pull up, if your mile
run is twenty minutes, you're in the wrong business. That
doesn't really matter whether you're a guy or girl. That
you've got to be. There's a standard to be a
member of the military, to be a fighting force, and
that is what you're protecting is without giving up military secrets.

(22:04):
Have you seen that cohesiveness and that kind of shoulder
or shoulder We're not there's no difference by gender. We're
just we're The mission is all that we're focused on.
Can you share with our listeners a front row seat
to that? Have you seen that actually occur in our military?

Speaker 12 (22:21):
It has, but it's been situational. And that's the problem
with having different standards is then it's dependent on the
individual people in those units, not the standards and the
qualifications that put them there. I think that's been the
fail point up until now, and that's what's being corrected
when we're talking about combat arms, and we have women

(22:43):
now in combat arms, and many of those women are
just strong, competent, great people who are doing the same
job with the same qualifications, and they meet the same
physical qualifications and standards the men do. But because our
standards now are separated between male and female, they're only

(23:06):
judged and evaluated by a female standard. That female standard
is lower, and that gives a lot of people the
opportunity to say, well, oh, they're only in the unit
because they're a woman. Well, actually, she's in this unit
because she is compensend she's strong, she can do the job,
and if she had been evaluated on the male standard scoring,

(23:28):
she would be as she would show to be as
strong as many of her male counterparts. That is where
we need to be as a fighting force.

Speaker 1 (23:37):
So, Maantha, how big of an undertaking is this for
Pete Hegseth and the Defense Department? I mean, how big
of an undertaking is this going to be?

Speaker 12 (23:45):
Well, we're at a starting point now, great question, because
it's this is no small task. What I wrote about
in the article that was published in The Federalist. I
applaud Secretary Hexth for what he has done, and I've
been in communication with him. I've spoken with him on

(24:07):
this prior to his confirmation hearing and moving forward. This
being the first step, and that is it in combat
arms units, the standards will be the same for men
and women. I think we need to then further define
this and look at the mission what not just the

(24:30):
standard being male female and one standard in combat arms units.
The next question is do our service support units need
to have the same high elite physical skills and qualifications
that our combat arms do. And I would say that

(24:51):
if I'm in a combat arms unit, special Forces infantry
and we're out beaten down doors, that is one physical
capability that needs to be established. But if we're talking about,
say a cybersecurity specialist in an air conditioned building and

(25:12):
Fort Mead, Maryland, I think maybe we can look at
a different standard because the jobs and the tasks that
that person needs to do on a daily basis that's
very different than a forward deployed infantry person.

Speaker 2 (25:28):
Your comments, your observations, your experiences are so refreshing, and
I'm so glad our listeners are able to hear your
perspective because I got to tell you, up until recently
to this election of President Trump, we haven't heard this.
We've heard it's almost been a stigma to even suggest
that they be held at the same standard or you
have to be it's mission focused, not gender. These are

(25:51):
things that have not allowed to be discussed when you
served in the military. I don't know how what stage
all of this was in when you were serving, But
is it tough for women who do not want to
be assumed to have been there because of some DEI
program or some affirmative action program, but do feel like
they can stand, you know, and be held to the
same standard. Has it been rough on our our service

(26:14):
women who've been serving this country under the climate of
a focus on gender.

Speaker 12 (26:21):
You are speaking my language.

Speaker 2 (26:24):
Oh my goodness, how are you treated?

Speaker 12 (26:31):
It's it is really tough. And this is something I've
been fighting since nineteen eighty five when I went to
basic training and the women were told to be over here.
The men were pushed over here, and there were a
lot of things that you know, men had to do,
and during basic that they would say, oh, well the
women can just stay over here, you just sit here.

(26:53):
I was loud and obnoxious back then too. I was
just like, oh the heck with that. Yes, I've got pictures,
and I mean this was funny. And I know a
few people from back in the day, and there were
a lot of women who were very angry with me
going through basic because I said, whatever the men do,

(27:14):
we need to do and if we're not doing it,
we need to band together, and we need to approach leadership,
and we need to say if they do it, we
do too. That wasn't always fun. Oh, women didn't have
to mow the lawn. All the guys had to mow
the lawn. We're all exhausted. It was just one of
those tasks. I've got pictures of, you know, five to two,

(27:38):
one hundred and twenty pound me mowing the lawn because
the other women didn't want to, so I would take
their shifts. Because my point was, as a woman, if
I am not out there, I have no business being there.

Speaker 1 (27:53):
Samantha Nirov talking about military and what Pete Higgsseeth is
trying to do to the military, bringing both men and
women to the same standards when it comes to their
physical fitness to serve in the military. That's one lady
I would not want to run into.

Speaker 2 (28:07):
Imagine she's a ruffian, that one. She's she's tough. I
think they made a TV series on Paramount called Lioness
about her. I think she's in that show. Of them
are special ops people just shooting everyone.

Speaker 3 (28:21):
All right.

Speaker 1 (28:21):
More coming up on the Rod and Greg Child. They
won the Supreme Court race in Wisconsin, Corey Booker, Senator Spartacus.
They spoke for what twenty five twenty six hours. Apparently
that was a great effort. It really, it really gave
the Democrats a jolt. They feel so good about.

Speaker 2 (28:37):
I just don't know. No one else watched ye a
minute of their twenty marathon other than them. Nobody knows
what he said.

Speaker 3 (28:43):
Nobody cared only yeah, no way, By.

Speaker 2 (28:45):
The way, we won what three congressional seats we did?

Speaker 3 (28:48):
We did just find held three well, we did just find.

Speaker 2 (28:51):
And they dump Democrats dump a ton of money into
those seats to try and turn it the other way.

Speaker 1 (28:55):
But the dams after what happened in Wisconsin, all the
money he spent. I think they have a new book man.
His name is Elon Musk. And in the coming hour
we're going to be talking about that. We'll let you
hear from month some people on the street, how about,
and we'll get to your phone calls. That's the whole
coming up, Power number two wing Man Wednesday, The Rotten
Great Show, Stay with us, following the vote last night

(29:19):
and Corey Booker's what did he talk for twenty six
hours for? Are calling yesterday the Democratics the Democrats.

Speaker 3 (29:27):
Best day, the best day.

Speaker 2 (29:29):
We were laughing about it. It was a joke. It
was like it was comical. And yet that Frank once
is that his name? Yeah, this may be a turning
point in American history. Really, you know, I've listened to
that guy. I watched him in twenty sixteen, time after
time after he would interview these focus groups after a
Republican debate for president, after Trump had gone, after Rubio

(29:50):
and Jem Bush and everyone else, we have witnessed the
end of a presidential campaign. We have witnessed the end
of a candidate's campaign. He his is hyperbole, and his
predictions have really unless they're dead obvious and true. There
this Corey Booker American history, mar historical moment is blather,

(30:11):
absolute blather. This is why CNN hires him and why
he takes their paychecks because he can, with a straight
face say something as farcical as that.

Speaker 3 (30:20):
Best day for Uh.

Speaker 1 (30:22):
Well, you know a lot of attention is being drawn
to Elon Musk Elon Musky, and there are reports out
of the White House today that say he's considering leaving,
even though the White House has shot those down. But
you know, to the Democrats out there, he is their
new boogeyman. He has public enemy number one? What has
he done?

Speaker 11 (30:41):
Greg?

Speaker 1 (30:42):
And I have a question to you tonight that is
absolutely so wrong. I mean, he came in here with
his own money, his own you know, he's not getting
paid for doing this. Hired a team of business leaders,
business executives to take a look at every square into
the federal government, and he has found a goose witful
spending like you wouldn't believe. Yet he's at public enemy

(31:04):
number one to the Democrats. And I guess there's a
poll out today join the American people don't like what
he's doing, which I can't believe.

Speaker 2 (31:11):
So it boils my blood a couple and Politico's leading
the charge. I remember. Politico is a publication that is
written for and on behalf of the swamp. It is
just a swamp publication. If you read it, you're just
reading what the swamp wants to hear. What they hope
you pick up, They hope they can sell you on. Well,
there's two headlines that have me on tilt a little

(31:31):
bit this today because both I find they better not
be true. This better be fake news, because if it's true,
we're sunk. One is that Musk has been everywhere. A
new poll says Americans don't approve. According to a Marquette
University Law School poll that's been released, only forty one

(31:52):
percent approve of how Musk is handling Doge, with a
disapproval of fifty eight percent for Musk himself. Percent of
those surveyed reported an unfavorable view, while compared to thirty
eight percent with a favorable view the let's see Doge

(32:13):
itself in the work they're doing there forty percent. Look,
I'm just gonna say this. If you catch a guy
robin a bank, Okay, you catch the guy that's got
the ski mask on and the gun in his hand,
and you wrestle him to the ground and get all
the money, and you wrestle them to the ground, And
it happened to be your money that he was doing.
He went into the safety deposit box and he took
your money, and this guy stopped him. This guy got

(32:35):
off the street. He wasn't part of the government, he
wasn't the law enforcement. He went and stopped him. Who
on earth would say to the man, the good samaritan
who stopped the theft, the robbery from happening, you're the
bad guy. Well you did that a little fast. That
was a little quick. Yeah, that really was. That was
a little sloppy how that all rolled out? And then

(32:55):
who in the world, who's the defense attorney for this criminal,
this thief? Okay? Who and by the attorney, I mean
the equivalent of the Democrats? Okay, can put one hundred
and This is a report that just came out from
a former Wall Street Journal reporter, Ashra Namani, has uncovered
twenty four Democrat aligned organizations with a combined one hundred

(33:16):
and twenty four million dollars on this attack on Tesla
and on this attack on the Tesla takedown as they
call it. Okay, they've identified the group's Indivisible Project, Democratic
Socialists of America, move On dot Org, Swift Swing Left.
These groups are meant to make you believe that there
is some grassroots concern or opposition about Elon Musk and

(33:41):
the truth that he is unearthing for us, for and
on behalf of us, That the robbery of the public treasury,
that he is trying to prevent. How could any of us,
other than the clip I'm about to play of this
person on the street, think that the Elon Musk is
the bad guy. You want to hear what you So
one of these protesters, one of these so called you know,

(34:04):
Elon Musk and Doge protesters that's in Wisconsin. Guy asks her,
what is it that you think about Elon Musk? Tell
me about it. No, he needs to get out of
our government.

Speaker 1 (34:14):
We didn't elect him.

Speaker 2 (34:15):
He needs to go.

Speaker 3 (34:16):
And what do you think of doctor Fauci?

Speaker 2 (34:18):
I love doctor Fauci.

Speaker 13 (34:19):
Do you think we elected him?

Speaker 1 (34:22):
He was appointed by our president? Excuse me? Wasn't Elon
Musk appointed by our president?

Speaker 2 (34:28):
And there you go? And that is and there you
go point. But they don't have They have nothing but
the talking point that's been printed off or the website
they went to to say. And as soon as you
ask one question, the Fauci question just came. You know,
that's not in the talking points. As soon as you
go there, well, he's appointed by a president I like him. Well,
then you've just actually just completely negated your entire argument

(34:51):
that you think he has to go.

Speaker 1 (34:53):
Yeah, and Fauci restricted everything we wanted to do in life,
including wearing masks, distancing. We couldn't go there, We couldn't
go there. Vout you wasn't appointed, you.

Speaker 2 (35:02):
Know, you know, no, no here, and then you know I
love you nuts. I want to go to the callers.
I want to see if you is there any sense
to this anti Musk, anti Doge sentiment that you're hearing
that you think is actually coming from a grassroots place
or a real place, or is this controve? Well, I
know it's contrived, but is is it selling with the
American people? Because I will tell you this. If we

(35:24):
think that it's just too hard for him to talk
about this government fraud and waste, and we think that
he's somehow the backup, or that his controversy is going
to splash on the political prospects of Republicans, man, we
are done here. This isn't going to work because this
is exactly what we needed to find out. And you've
got a guy that's not worried about his own election,
who can tell you that the brutal, un honest truth

(35:46):
about it all these one hundred and twenty year old's,
thirteen million of them getting in Social Security. So the
Trump's White House has done a very good job not
having leaks like the first term. But of course Politico
has an unnamed, multiple named White House sources saying Trump
tells inner circle this is in Politico, that Musk will
leave soon because they're all getting nervous because he's so controversial.

(36:10):
He is not controversial. What is controversial is he's finding
out that they're printing money and sending it to NGOs
and sending it to nonprofits that are just lining the
pockets of a ton of leftists, but a lot of
Republicans as well.

Speaker 1 (36:25):
You know that poll that you just sawed. I think
here's part of the problem in America today, Greg. Most
Americans just want to stick their head in the sand,
and they don't want to know what's going on. They
don't want to know how much money we're wasting, how
big government has become. They just want to stick their
head in the sand.

Speaker 3 (36:42):
Say no, no, no, no, no.

Speaker 1 (36:43):
Don't tell me because I'm happy, so don't tell me.
And that's what is happening out there. They elon. Musk
has brought to the American people a kiss the face
of reality. Yes, that's what is going on in the
government and the American people, in my opinion, some of
them do not want to hear it.

Speaker 2 (37:01):
And you know what, so it's true. It's like it's
like we found the Holy Grail and you're like, well,
that's that looks like it's sharp to touch, or that
doesn't look very clean. I don't want to touch that.
I'm telling you that it was never ever ever meant
for us to know the amount of money up there,
over a trillion dollars of money that has been shuttled
to these NGOs, these nonprofits. A lot of these people

(37:23):
in Congress, both Republicans and Democrats, getting an incredible amount
of money, their relatives, their spouses. It was never ever
ever supposed to be in the public square of this information.
He has brought, this dog has brought this. These are
people that a lot of them are from the tech world,
that are not rock ribbed registered Republicans, but they care
about this country and keeping it and letting it continue on.

(37:44):
They are finding these absolutely disturbing facts and Elon Musk
is a bad guy. Last thing I want to rant about.
We beat the billionaire. We beat the billionaire. Tim Walls
writes Wisconsin beat the billionaire George Soros four point four
million dollars in that race. Reid Hoffman, a billionaire that
started LinkedIn and I'll buy the way in Epstein pal
fourteen point six point four million dollars into that in

(38:07):
Wisconsin judge race Jamie Pritzker, the billionaire Illinois governor, six
and a half million dollars. Carla Jervitson, This one's a
funny one. She's the ex husband of a venture capitalist
that was a business partner and friend of Elon Musk.
So hell hath no fury like a woman scorned. Oh,
Karla gave seven point three million dollars. That's over thirty

(38:28):
million dollars to that candidate Elon Musk. That's one two
three four billionaires for her. Musk has not put in
that much money, but somehow it was Wisconsin versus the
billionaire Musk, which is on its face a falsehood and
a verifiable by the math falsehood.

Speaker 1 (38:46):
Yeah, all right, we want to go to your calls
and get to your thoughts on this. Why is Elon
Musk the boogeyman? Eight eight eight five seven eight zero
one zero or on your cell phone dial pound two fifteen,
say hey, Rod let's go to Todd in provo tonight
here on The Rodden Greg Show. Thanks for joining us.

Speaker 14 (39:02):
First, I want to thank you too, gentlemen, for bringing
these points to our attention, because it's true and it's
so radically important, and I think again, the reason they're screaming, buddy,
bloody murder is because they're about to get exposed. We're
finding all these millions of dollars that are going out
to mostly Democrats and money laundering. It's passing from one

(39:23):
organization through a lot of hands that can't trace it,
and no doubt it helps also to fund Democrat campaigns.
I'm guessing which would be a criminal act. And if
Republicans were doing it, the Democrat let would be screaming
bloody murder and wanting people in prison. But here they're
just attacking the messenger and hoping that they can turn
people off to not listen to him because he's about

(39:45):
to expose him and make their lives really difficult.

Speaker 3 (39:48):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (39:49):
What good points, Tod. And that's exactly what he's doing.
He's pointing out what is happening government?

Speaker 3 (39:54):
What is it?

Speaker 1 (39:55):
Ninety two ninety five percent of bureaucrasts within the swamp,
vote Democrat and give to candidate Democratic candidates. I mean,
he's exposing this, and hopefully the American people, in my opinion,
will pull their head out of their sand or other
things and take a look at what's going on in
America today, because that's exactly what Elon Musk is doing.

Speaker 3 (40:15):
He's exposing him.

Speaker 2 (40:16):
Please, well, I'd love to hear from you. Are great
listeners eight eight eight five seven zero eight zero one zero,
talk to me about Elon Musk, what you're seeing, because
I will tell you this, if it becomes if he
becomes the paria, if he becomes the problem, then all
the domestic terrorism that we've been watching on the attack,
takedown of Tesla, all that they've been doing to people,
the one hundred and twenty four million dollars that they've

(40:38):
combined to do this astro turf so called grassroots, it
will have worked. It will have worked. They will have
convinced the American people that somehow, some way, Elon Musk
and Doge they were the bad guys.

Speaker 3 (40:49):
Yep.

Speaker 2 (40:50):
And I really don't want to believe that that's going
to have any kind of traction.

Speaker 1 (40:54):
Your calls eight eight eight five seven eight zero one
zero eight eight eight five seven o eight zero one
zero or on your cell phone aisle pound two fifty
and say, hey, run, just having a field day with
that one voted in Wisconsin last night about you know,
the the very liberal judge making sure and it could
change Congress. Who knows it could happen that there. The

(41:14):
media is having a field day with this today, saying
great day for the Democrats. We're on our way back.
Well maybe not the Caseen Scott Jennings on CNN last
night after the votes came in, do you think.

Speaker 15 (41:24):
The Republican takeaways tonight are going to be this and Florida.
Democrats burned about twenty million dollars on two congressional campaigns
where both Republicans look like they're going to get around
fifty seven percent of the vote. Yes, not as high
as what Donald Trump got, but certainly commanding victories. Democrats
were down in the low forties. Republicans again at fifty
seven percent Wisconsin. The voter ID initiative that Donald Trump

(41:48):
was heavily involved in and heavily supported, that's a big
issue for Republicans and conservatives. Last I saw it was
passing at about a rate of sixty forty, so they're
going to like that. I agree with you Thatmocrats have
a nice win on the Supreme Court here called it
early in the night. But for Republicans tonight, I do
think a lot of people were sort of bracing for
impact that, you know, what was going to happen tonight,

(42:09):
And when do we find out Republicans are okay in
their Florida districts and voter ID is still a popular thing.
There's a bunch of people that voted for a liberal
Supreme Court justice and turn around and voted voter ID
tonight in Wisconsin, which shows you the popularity of that issue,
which has been a Republican issue.

Speaker 1 (42:25):
Yeah, I don't understand that. So they vote for the
liberal judge, but then they vote for voter I D
A lot.

Speaker 2 (42:29):
Of that's a fundamental inconsistency because that judge doesn't support
voter ID. But the other thing is there's about sixty
thousand votes in that state where they only voted for
the Supreme Court judge and nothing else, nothing else down ballot,
no one else, no other kindada down ballot. Just guys
me crazy, Let's go to the phones. Let's go. We've
had some patient listeners waiting online. Barrett and Ogden, thank

(42:50):
you for holding Welcome to the Rodd and Greg Show.
What say you, sir?

Speaker 9 (42:55):
I appreciate that.

Speaker 16 (42:57):
I don't know if you guys heard anything about this,
but they were protesting last Saturday at the Riverdale Tesla
dealership and I went out there and countered them with
the flags. And I gotta tell you, you know, I've
seen the ads in the on the internet and everything.
A lot of these guys are just paid actors wearing masks.

(43:19):
But to see the Swastika flag next to the American
flag upside down and all their Nazi memormorabilia, and they
also had a Mexican flag too, all of that together
just does not make any sense. And that doesn't represent
America at all. I mean, I think it's just a
reason for them to just you know, they're the actual Nazis.

(43:43):
It's just a reason for them to actually be doing
what they're doing to try to tear America down. The dealership,
I think it was one of the owners. He flagged
me down and you know, he gave me a tip,
you know, and he was like, thank you so much
for what you're doing. And yeah, they're a lot of
these guys. Man, they're only doing it not because of

(44:03):
the Elon. They're doing it because it's Trump, you know,
and know everything about Trump that they hate. And Elon
is doing nothing but good.

Speaker 9 (44:12):
He is.

Speaker 16 (44:14):
He is basically unfertiled or uncovered all of the where
all the money is going and connected all of the
the dead social Security recipients that are getting all of
this money to voter fraud and how they how they've
established this voter fraud. And they would have if it

(44:35):
would have not have been uncovered and they uncovered it accidentally.
If it would have been uncovered, you know, that would
have been the end of uh free elections. It would
have been the end of everything. So that's why they
don't like it.

Speaker 2 (44:48):
And thank you for going out there. I love that
we got listeners that will just go go out there
and actually have a counter protest over this nonsense. Let's
go to Dave and Twilla. Dave, thank you for holding.
Welcome to the Rod and Greg Show.

Speaker 9 (45:02):
Yeah, how are you doing today?

Speaker 3 (45:03):
We're doing well, Thank you, Dave.

Speaker 9 (45:08):
I think Elon Musk is doing an excellent job.

Speaker 2 (45:11):
Yeah, so do excellent.

Speaker 9 (45:14):
Yeah, he's he's found a lot of corruption in the government.
I hope they go out to the States next and
find out how much corruptions in the States.

Speaker 2 (45:24):
So, Dave, let me ask you a quick question. Let
me ask you a questions. So there's a lot of
there's polls out today saying that Elon's got a low
approval rating. People are upset about Doge, do you buy it?
Do you do you think any of that's real? Are
you what's your sense of things here to the ground?
Are people upset us with?

Speaker 9 (45:42):
I don't buy into any of it. I mean, everybody
that I've talked to work and around, they love what
he's doing. I mean, the taxes are getting out of hand,
and I mean, if they got that much free money
to give out, then why don't they just give it
back to the American people.

Speaker 3 (45:57):
Well, wouldn't that be a novel idea? I think we'd
all be in favor of that.

Speaker 11 (46:00):
Dave.

Speaker 1 (46:01):
All right, Dave, thank you, all right, more of your
calls coming up. We're getting your reaction. The polls are
indicating and there are some Republicans who are nervous about
having Eli hang around or Elon. I mean, but let
me tell you what I think, Greg, and I think
he's doing a fantastic Joe.

Speaker 2 (46:15):
Well, I'll tell you this. Any Republican that's nervous about
the mid terms with Elon in there, it's because they
got to deliver on what he's finding.

Speaker 1 (46:22):
Yeah, all right, Mare Coming up on the Rod and
Greg showing Utah's Talk Radio one oh five nine, Kate
and asked Elon Musk you had a survey.

Speaker 3 (46:29):
Was it a political survey?

Speaker 2 (46:30):
It was a survey market University.

Speaker 1 (46:33):
Marquette University survey showing apparently a lot of Americans are
not real happy with one Elon Musk, which we can't believe.

Speaker 2 (46:39):
One of our listeners, Rod and lady gentleman that said,
I know this man. I've known him for twenty twenty five,
no thirty something years. He's a he's a warhorse, old
political warhorse, knows everything about politics. And he just points
out that that you can write any kind of poll
by the way that you asked the questions to get
the answers you're looking for. And their marquet pole has

(47:02):
always been seen as a lefty pole, and he says,
it's all the Democrats are doing is it's a squirrel.
Look over there while they're out there stealing out of
the public treasury. He's right there too. Let's go back
to the callers. Let's go to Dave and Magna. Dave,
thank you for holding Welcome to the Rod and Grigg Show.

Speaker 11 (47:19):
Thank you for having me.

Speaker 17 (47:22):
Elon Musk, in my opinion, I think is doing one
hell of a fantastic job to begin with. I think
a lot of people that are mad at Elon Musk
is a lot of people that's had their hand in
the cookie jar and they had the lid slammed on
their hand. Yeo's had the The people that's had their
access to the cookie jar is getting it taken away

(47:44):
from them, and they don't like it. I personally, I
think it's entertaining myself. I think that you know, a
majority of the people that don't like Elon Musk and Trump.
I'll bet you there's quite a few in that crowd there.
They They probably don't even know why they don't like them.
A lot of you know, because their mommy and daddy

(48:05):
or good friends or whatever don't like them, so they don't.

Speaker 2 (48:07):
Like That's what I hope. I don't mind the Democrats
losing their minds. Seeing them scream is like a it's
a good. It's like good social Uh tell that things
are going right? Okay, I mean that's social proofing, positive
social proofing. If I see a poll that says that
Elon Musk is unpopular, doges no, you know, has low
approval rating. I see stories that the White House wants

(48:29):
to distance themselves from Elon Musk, or that Republicans in
Congress are worried about their mid terms because of him.
That if any of that were to be true, that's
what sends that worries me because I'm telling you, that
means that the domestic terrorism and that these these well
healed robber barons are getting away with it. They're getting
away with it. If Elon Musk becomes the foil or

(48:51):
the antagonist in this story, he is the hero in
our story. Guys worth three hundred and forty billion dollars.
There's no such thing as a conflict in that man's life.
When you got that much of a network.

Speaker 1 (48:59):
You don't have to worry about you know what. You know
what they're also worried about greg someone were losing their jobs.
You know, I think a lot of people go into government,
not all, but it's a job for life. And guess
what that's not the way it is in the real world.

Speaker 2 (49:11):
Nonprofits and thengs even more, not the way it is
above anyone's scrutiny.

Speaker 1 (49:15):
Welcome to the real business world today. David's in Salt
Lake City tonight here on the Rod and Greg Show. David,
how are you? Thanks so much for joining us?

Speaker 18 (49:25):
Now, thank you. You know, I'm going to bring up
that last year. I have two good friends of mine
that I didn't realize that they had to be Democrats.

Speaker 11 (49:33):
I was in.

Speaker 18 (49:33):
Conversations with them, each of them at a separate time,
and something what Trump came up, and they blew up.
I mean, they didn't just disagree with me. They started shouting.
In fact, one of them, because what had come up
was had to do with the assassination attempt on Trump.
He started screaming. He said, do you really believe that

(49:56):
that was stayed? I'll come on, cla faint and I said,
there are people who died. What are you talking about anyway?

Speaker 14 (50:05):
I think these people.

Speaker 18 (50:07):
Are so far over the edge. We need I think
we I'm very serious about I think we need to
petition God in heaven and ask him to soften the
hearts of people on both sides so that we can
have conversations, so that we could talk about There's so
many things that we all look at right now that

(50:29):
the left is talking about that are completely insane. They
don't make any sense at all, and they certainly mustn't
know it is, but they they do it anyway.

Speaker 1 (50:38):
Yeah, yeah, David, you're right. I have a brother and
sister in law who are like that. We don't even
bring up politics. Yeah, it's just too dangerous. And there
are people.

Speaker 2 (50:45):
That have and I have some friends that have Trump
derangement syndrome. So there's nothing, it's just the that's just
the you know, the tree, the stumb of the tree,
the being of the tree. So anything that comes from
Trump is going to be bad. But here's the thing.
You know, Elon Musk's personality is very calm, and if
you look back a year ago today, I don't know
that he was a Republican. I think he was. I
think he's a guy that the Democrats just kept getting

(51:07):
more and more and more radical and scarier and more dangerous,
and you're seeing people gravitate to a Party of common
Sense and to this president. But he talks in very calm,
in calm fashion, and he says, look, you gotta if
you're gonna audit something, you have to know where the
money's going to go. There has to be a topic,
There has to be a way to know. He's talking
in such fundamental common sense that you would hope that

(51:29):
your appropriations of government would have what it's going to,
why it's going there, you know who's receiving it. And
he's saying those fundamental pieces of information are missing everywhere.
We should be hearing that, taking inventory and going you
know what, that actually isn't a Republican or Democrat issue.
That is that's that's embezzlement, that's fraud. That's that's wrong

(51:51):
that no one in any political party should be okay
with the things that are being described in terms of
the sloppiness or worse, the theft the public dollars.

Speaker 3 (52:01):
Yeah, I don't think that. I don't.

Speaker 1 (52:03):
I don't think they care or I don't think they
care they're spending hour dollars. I really don't bureacrats they
they think it's money we gave to them and do
whatever you want to do. That's not the case, folks,
it's not the case. It is not ray an American
Fork wants to weigh in on this tonight.

Speaker 3 (52:20):
Ray, how are you? Thanks for joining us?

Speaker 10 (52:23):
Good thanks. Keep having the same conversation over and over again.
And the reality is that one hundred days is soon
going to turn into two hundred and then it'll be
a year. And I want to make this prediction because
I called you guys right after the well actually after
the first the year, after President Trump was set and

(52:47):
all we heard day and night was talk shows, Republican pundits,
Republican pollsters, and politicians patting each other on the back
and going on and on and on about how bad
the Democrats are and how they lost and all the
rest of it. The Republicans that are in office today

(53:10):
that won this last election, including President Trump, won for
one reason and one reason only, and that was to
get this economy under control. It is not under control.
We're right now. I'm an American of fort Before I
left for California a month ago, gas is three h nine.
It's three twenty five right now. John Curtis lied. He's

(53:31):
not doing a damn thing about these gas prices. Here's
what the issue is. All of those stuff is nice,
but if there's no indictments, if there's no grand jury set.
It's the same old crap from the Republicans. You think
they're working today on Nine of them got nine of
them voted, Nine of them voted to postpone in a

(53:55):
very important vote. We just lost a Supreme Court justice
seat in Wisconsin. All of this, all of this talk.
This was an election based on the economy. There were
a lot of Democrats who were disenfranchised because of what
they did to Biden, who voted their pocketbook. Those votes

(54:16):
are gonna be gone come a year and a half.
And I will guarantee you when we lose the House,
which we will, it's going to be just like Obamacare.
It's the same crap. These Republicans had nothing prepared. We've
got the DOJ, the FBI, the White House, we have
the majority Supreme Court justices. What are we doing? What

(54:39):
has been done? We all know they've been stealing. How
many of the incumbent Republicans that have been in office
for two three decades, Yeah, didn't know anything about what's
been going on. Of course, they don't want this found
out until people and I'm gonna say it till I'm
blue in the face, until people are indicted. Just like

(55:03):
the Democrats, did to the Republican Party until Democrats and
Republicans are indicted, brought before, brought before grand jury indictments
are handed down and people go to prison for this crap,
which is treasonous. It's all talk.

Speaker 3 (55:21):
The makes some very good points, very passionate about it.

Speaker 1 (55:23):
He believe, and I think in what I agree with
a bunch of what Ray is saying, get off your
dime and start doing something. Republicans don't just sit there
and say, hey, we want, we want and the Democrats suck.
You better start doing something. Because Ray is right. Yeah,
if Donald Trump is doing all he can, Elon Musk
is doing he can, I tell you what lawmakers get going.

(55:46):
It's that easy.

Speaker 2 (55:47):
Yeah, you're right, and I do think that they There
is so much that's been uncovered. And the only thing
I would say to Ray, and there's there's very little.
He said that I don't feel the same frustration and
know that if the Republicans don't act on what we're
finding out and the control that we do have, the
the people put us and put Trump in charge of
the executive branch and we have the House and Senate.

(56:08):
If we don't see massive change and the economy doesn't
get better. I raise one hundred percent right. What I
would hope would happen is if we got hundreds of
billions of dollars getting shuff shuttled unbeknownst at least to
me up until now, to these NGOs nonprofits, if the
indictments don't come fast enough, at least that the faucet
for this this type of uh yeah, this type of

(56:32):
again Robber Baron's theft of the public treasury has got
to stop. And they've got it in our budgets that
we that the Congress passes has to reflect that. So
I do think that those are that is the job
at hand. And it also to raise point, how did
they go home early this week? Because you had these
Republicans who wanted if you have a child mail, if

(56:54):
you're a dad, a husband and your and your wife
just had a baby, or if you had a baby,
you don't have to come to work. You can vote remotely.
You know, we've had members of Congress resigned the seat
to be at home if they had a child, a
newborn that was sick, or there was something wrong with them.
Did the job needs you need to be on that
floor voting? It just is the part of the job.
And I think that for the reasons that the Republicans

(57:16):
joined Democrats and shut that down and no work is
getting done this week is pathetic.

Speaker 1 (57:21):
All Right, more coming up on the Rod and Greg
Show and Utah's Talk RADI on one oh five to
nine k n.

Speaker 2 (57:25):
R as I'm citizen Greg Hughes and I'm Rod Arkatt.

Speaker 1 (57:28):
And was it Color Ray who was really getting after
the Republicans for not getting anything done? Yes, here we go,
just coming across the Republican Lens. Senate has delivered a
rare rebuke of President Trump and the signature trade agenda.
Senators voted fifty one to forty eight Wednesday to reject
the national emergency that the President declared earlier this year

(57:49):
to justify his plan to slap twenty five percent tariffs
on Canadian imports. Thank you Republicans. Wow, can you believe that?

Speaker 2 (57:59):
Yeah, that's not going to serve him? Well, that's not
I mean, does that that doesn't interrupt what he did today,
does it? Because he put ten percent tariffs on on
everything today.

Speaker 1 (58:07):
Vote took place hours after the President announced his plan today,
So I'm not sure if.

Speaker 2 (58:12):
It is deal. What is wrong with him. Yeah, because
I'll tell you what this This is a quote from
that his press conference on his Independence Day that I
think everyone should There's a lot he said today. That's
important real quick.

Speaker 3 (58:23):
Now, we'll talk about it when we when we.

Speaker 2 (58:26):
Come back, I'll mention it. But you got to hear
this because it's very important when we come back.

Speaker 1 (58:30):
Collins, McConnell's, Markowskate and Ran Paul joined the Democrats on
that vote, kind of noting today that Val Kilmer was
it last night.

Speaker 3 (58:41):
He passed away?

Speaker 1 (58:42):
Yes, yeah, yeah, yep. Star of the Top Gun, both
Top Gun and Top Gun.

Speaker 3 (58:47):
Maverick.

Speaker 2 (58:48):
Yes, he was in both. Yeah, it's said he. I
loved him as Doc Holliday. I loved him in Heat.
He was awesome and Heat.

Speaker 11 (58:54):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (58:54):
See, you and I disagree on the wider movies, but
we do need to get in.

Speaker 2 (58:58):
You are literally you are the only person I have
ever met that thinks that The Wide Earth that Kevin
Costner did is better than The Tombstone starring Kurt Russell.
And it was long, it was exaggering. I've never met
an individual that saw both and said Kevin Costner is better,
that that movie is better. No, really, that movie totally flopped.

(59:21):
It was it.

Speaker 1 (59:21):
Was weird looking mustache on.

Speaker 2 (59:24):
That's how they wore the mustaches back then. I mean
that that movie's huge. Tombstone it crushed the Yes, Tombstone
beat it in the box office everywhere.

Speaker 1 (59:38):
That his flopped Wider flopped then. And you say Tombstone
was better.

Speaker 2 (59:45):
Yeah, they released him at the same time.

Speaker 3 (59:46):
I know that at that same summer.

Speaker 2 (59:48):
Yeah, it's weird. It was a waste.

Speaker 1 (59:50):
And you say Tombstone is better than her, Oh see,
I like her. I bet my I bet our callers
would agree with me.

Speaker 2 (59:55):
No, they wouldn't. I don't put yourself through it. I'm
gonna tell you're right. I'm going to call shot early.
This one's not even a debatable that those aren't even
they're not even com I've never heard anyone compare them.
No one. Everybody's laughed. They laugh at Kevin Costner won,
They're like, how dumb were they to do three hours
instead of the two and do it at the same
time the better one can. This is what I wanted

(01:00:15):
to say before I really have to land this plane
about you know, because we have the callers that are
talking about you know, we we have got to get
this economy right, and we're talking that's fine when we
talk about gas prices and we talk about inflation and
egg prices and everything. And by the way, real inflation
is coming down. I just saw the stat today that's

(01:00:36):
coming down, and Democrats are going, well, no, that was
Biden that did that. There hasn't been enough time for
Trump to do it. But there's somehow time for him
to still be responsible for the cost of eggs. But anyway,
I digress. This is one of the This is a
quote from President Trump's his event today on Independence Day
and announcing these reciprocal tariffs. He says, the United States

(01:00:58):
can no longer produce enough ants to treat our sick.
We import virtually all of our computers, phones, televisions, and electronics.
A single shipyard in China now produces more ships in
one year than all the American shipyards combined. Chronic trade
deficits are no longer an economic problem. They are a

(01:01:19):
national emergency. And I'm going to tell you that if
someone thinks that these tariffs, these ten percent tariffs and
reciprocal tariffs that he's doing to try and get this
trade relationship with the rest of the world, where we're
not the world's piggybank a and just buying up everything
that everybody else makes, and we're not allowed to send
any of our wares anywhere else in the world. If

(01:01:41):
people are worried that that's going to in the short
term even cause prices to rise, then what because if
this dollar were to fail, if China were to decide
to go into Taiwan, we have nothing. We don't have
rare minerals, we don't process rare minerals. Ninety six percent
of all that happens in China, the what do you

(01:02:02):
call the microchips or whatever they're from there in Taiwan. Okay,
we would be How did the global supply chain work
for us during COVID, Well, we all big fans. Then
we don't even we don't have pharmaceuticals in this country.
We don't have meat processing in this country. We don't
have a food chain in this country. If if we
think tariffs are scary, tell me what in the world

(01:02:22):
is scarier than the fact that we don't make anything
anymore nothing. We are consumers, we consume it all and
we make nothing. And I'm telling you it's these it's
these absolutely and by the way, when we talk about
reciprocal trade tariffs, there's still not every single one of these.
The United States is still going to have a tariff
that is much less than the other countries are still

(01:02:45):
charging the United States. With the exception of those that
went ten percent and they went they went equal, that'd
be United Kingdom, Australia, Turkey did that, Columbia did that.
Who else went ten ten bahamas. So look, I'm going
to tell you that there are some nations that are
going to do this ten percent and ten percent both
going across the board. But I don't see. I don't

(01:03:09):
see how it's sustainable to have this trade deficit and
be the piggybank for the world, and then militarily Europe
doesn't build it. They don't build up their own defense anymore.
That's our job set, the job.

Speaker 3 (01:03:19):
Yeah, we pay for that.

Speaker 2 (01:03:19):
Well, they hate us.

Speaker 1 (01:03:20):
That's the tame time, that's for sure. All right, Let's
move on. Let's talk about a report out today. Interesting
to report. We have a very large job core center
up in Clearfield, but this is a multi billion dollar
program and a report out today shows it's a breeding
ground for rape and crime. Joining us on our newsmaker
line right now to talk about that is Luke Rosiak.

(01:03:40):
He's an investigative reporter with The Daily Wire. Luke, thanks
for joining us tonight. What did you find out about
the Job Corps?

Speaker 11 (01:03:46):
So?

Speaker 13 (01:03:46):
The Job Corp has been around for fifty years and
it's supposed to help young people who come from impoverished
backgrounds learn job skills. But in recent years it turns
out that it really hasn't worked very well at all.
It houses people ages sixteen to twenty four together in
residential environments that are somewhere in between a college and

(01:04:09):
a prison, and the requirements to attend or that you
have to be on welfare, you have to be or
be a teen runaway, someone who's been sex trafficked. You're
required to be unable to read beyond an eighth grade level,
and criminal backgrounds are permitted, with the exception of convictions

(01:04:30):
for murder or rape. So you're basically getting very troubled
people adults and putting them in environments where they're living
with runaway teens, and the ideas that they're supposed to
be getting their GEDs or their certifications in the trades.
But it seems to have developed a criminal atmosphere that's

(01:04:55):
more likely to kind of bring everybody down than to
bring anybody uparticularly, I got some new statistics that have
never been reported before that there's been five hundred rates
more than five hundred sexual assaults in these Job Corps
facilities in the last three years, along with over forty
six hundred violent assaults and eight thousand drug related incidents.

(01:05:18):
And those numbers probably vastly understated because one of the
things about this program is it's run by four profit
contractors who have a strong interest in keeping the money
flowing by concealing these problems. And there's been evidence in
the past that they've actually told their staff don't call
the police.

Speaker 2 (01:05:35):
So I don't know how long has Job Corps been around.
It's a long standing program, is it not.

Speaker 13 (01:05:42):
Yeah, you know, it's been around for like fifty years,
and I think it was modeled after these things like
the Conservation Corps, these big progressive programs from an earlier era.
But now it's developed sort of something that maybe Teddy
Roosevelt couldn't really have anticipated, which is like deep dysfunctional
inner city culture where people are just getting I mean,

(01:06:03):
you can go on YouTube and type in job Corps
fights and you'll see the environment. These are basically thugs
who are fighting each other, strangling each other, and so
there's been I think Republicans are probably going to look
at this program and maybe shut it down, both to
save the two billion dollars and because not only is
it not helping many of these youth, it's actively putting

(01:06:24):
them in dangerous situations.

Speaker 1 (01:06:27):
Luke, If if the private operators who are running these
things are not reporting whatever incidents happened to police, how
do we know? I mean, are we just scratching the
surface what you've been able to find out? Are there
more than what you even found out?

Speaker 3 (01:06:40):
Do you think?

Speaker 4 (01:06:41):
Luke?

Speaker 13 (01:06:42):
Yeah, I mean it's kind of been an open secret
for or ten years. A a CBS at a big
investigation ten years ago. There's a number of Inspector General
reports and things like that that found that even when
these for profit operators were saying like such and such,
percent of our students went on to like get jobs
a plumber or whatever. Most of those job placements were fake.

(01:07:04):
Some of the contractors that are operating these we're just
cooking the books so that they could make it get
the money from Congress and basically painted at this as
this feel good, we help poor kids program, when really
it's enriching the contractors a hundreds of millions of dollars
a year, and the kids who go there are just
really oftentimes being viciously beaten by like adult thugs, and

(01:07:26):
some of these people are basically they go there as
an alternative to jail, like judges send them there. The
problem is we're trying to in the same breath say oh, well,
this is a great opportunity. If you're eighteen and you're
not sure what you want to do, maybe you can
get some free training to be an electrician. This is
kind of like a terrible emotionally abusive environment to be

(01:07:46):
and if you're.

Speaker 3 (01:07:46):
Just a kid who wants, you know, the unions.

Speaker 13 (01:07:49):
Will usually give it kind of training for free. And
then the other thing they do is give to eds,
Well we can do that for free as well. So
I think you do have to look at kind of
the incentives here where it is an odd You've got
a huge amount of money going to these contractors and
they wrap themselves in the banner if we're helping poor
kids and conjuring this image of like Oliver Twists just
wanting like a bull, a bullet, soup or whatever. But

(01:08:12):
you know, you look at some of these videos and
it's terrible. I mean, these are just thugs assaulting each other.
And then you look at the training materials and they
kind of acknowledge that the staff are training to say, like,
I see that you have the game tattoo, please cover
it up while you're here. And so they actually pay
these people to get their ged and to live in
this environment twelve hundred dollars they typically pay them plus

(01:08:34):
a living stipeen, plus free free meals and free housing,
and they also pay recruiters to basically lure these people there,
and the staff get incentives, They get bonus payments depending
on how many people they bring in and how many
people that ostensibly go on to get jobs. But what
some of the Inspector General investigations found is in reality,

(01:08:55):
oftentimes these people are working in fast food after they
leave this like three year, two million dollar government program.
And you didn't need to live in some weird campus
for three years to work in fast food. So a
lot of the job placements are frankly just fake. And
you know there's been a number of you just even
in the last year. I mean, there was a sixteen
year old girl who identified as a transgender boy, and

(01:09:18):
I guess she ran away from her parents and joined
the Job Corps. So the Job Corps basically pays this
team runaway to come live on its campus funded by
federal tax dollars, and they house her. They signed her
to be a roommates with this twenty three year old
thug named Demetrius who raped her. And you know, this
is just a kind of an insane environment that for
the federal government to be funded.

Speaker 2 (01:09:40):
You know, I'm laughing to myself and maybe it's not funny,
but I know a guy that lives here in utadd
that Job Corp would have been. I asked the how
long it had been around, because it probably was only
been around about ten years when he was given an
ultimatum back east in North Carolina, where he lived, he
either had to go. He had two scenarios and Job

(01:10:01):
Corps was the more attractive of the two scenarios.

Speaker 8 (01:10:03):
He got.

Speaker 2 (01:10:03):
He had gotten in trouble, but he did turn it
out to have a decent life. He worked at as
you know, in the his gas in for a gas company.
He's retired now he's an old he's an old guy.
Was there ever a time do you think that that
this job corps actually was delivering as advertised? Or are
there some outliers out there that might have been able
to get their act together. What's the story of all

(01:10:24):
of job corps from in the sixties when it started
to today? Was it all any good ever? And it
just got bad? Or has this just been a bad
idea from day one?

Speaker 13 (01:10:33):
I think it was probably good originally, but you know,
probably in the seventies, certainly by the nineties, I think
you probably had inner city dysfunction kind of taking control,
where you know, the expression of rotten apples spoils the bunch.
I mean, this is really like a lot of rotten
apples all bringing people down. There's certainly some good people
in there who trying their best, but this is not

(01:10:55):
an uplifting environment. This is an environment where the dominant
culture is one of crime and dysfunction. And you know,
you look at the failure of sort of housing projects
where we kind of moved away from those, and that
some time after the nineteen seventies, because when you concentrate
poverty and crime and dysfunction all in one place, it
doesn't you know. It basically brings anybody down who comes

(01:11:15):
into contact with it.

Speaker 1 (01:11:17):
Luke Roziak, he is with the Daily Wire taking a
look at what's going on with the federal Job Corps
and Greg, as he mentioned at the beginning, I have
a very good idea, but as time has gone on,
they have some real troubles with your Job Corp. I think, Yeah,
we have a large center up in Garfield. Yeah, no,
I think that might be one of those. Much like
public radio and television, it's time is coming gone. There's

(01:11:38):
other opportunities for people. There's ways to train people and
get them on the right path, and that might be
That might be one of those federal programs that just
wasn't watched closely enough and really is really a highest
and best use of taxpayer dollars. Or coming up on
the Rod and Greg show and Talk radio one oh
five nine knrs we were talking earlier, Well, we spent

(01:11:59):
a lot of time talking about Elon Musk today and
how he has become a target of violence. Do you
know Sean Hindy is giving away of Tesla. Is Sean
talking about that?

Speaker 2 (01:12:09):
Yeah, I've heard him talking about it. Of your choice,
He's doing it for mothership here. I heard that's a
you know, if if if he can give away through
iHeart a tesla, can we can we get a cannon
a Rotten Greg Show tesla from my heart? Can they
give they can wrap it?

Speaker 3 (01:12:28):
We get a toy one.

Speaker 2 (01:12:30):
Let's get the truck, can you?

Speaker 1 (01:12:32):
I would not drive Those are the Those are the
ugliest vehicles on the road of today.

Speaker 2 (01:12:35):
If I heard wrapped it in the Rotten Greg Show.

Speaker 1 (01:12:38):
I wouldn't drive it. Yes you would, No, he wouldn't.
It's come on, you tell me those cards are good looking.

Speaker 2 (01:12:44):
If it was if we got it, there's the official
show automobile political. It's a political statement. I just I would.

Speaker 3 (01:12:52):
I would.

Speaker 2 (01:12:53):
I would drive that was with pride, absolutely I would.
Those are No, they're not.

Speaker 3 (01:12:58):
Are you kidding me?

Speaker 2 (01:12:59):
I used to think they were. It just went o
what I used to not like them until I could
not love Elon or appreciate Elon muskmore so now the
man everything he builds I love. I didn't even like
electric cars. They were kind of like golf golf golf
carse you want to know about it, They're glorified golf
carts because they're the electric and you can't. You know
you're gonna you gotta range, you gotta drive it and

(01:13:21):
then plug it back in. But I just can't get
over these are American made. You know, we talk about
these terraces, and you know, cheap labor and everything. He
builds these cars in America, all these Teslas. It's the
most American of American cars in terms of all of
its parts and labor come from this country. And it's
a profitable country company. She's shown it can be done.
So we get a Tesla, Rod, and we just wrap

(01:13:42):
it in one oh five nine can arrest Uh and
Rod and Greg show on the Tesla and then we cruise.
You drive it around the wall.

Speaker 3 (01:13:49):
See you drive it.

Speaker 1 (01:13:50):
I'll following in a good looking car.

Speaker 2 (01:13:54):
You are a snob. I'm telling you. You must not
love this country like Elon love.

Speaker 3 (01:13:59):
You know you were a question earlier. I wonder how
many Achieve pays as auto workers?

Speaker 2 (01:14:03):
What's that?

Speaker 3 (01:14:04):
I wonder how much he pays as workers? In his facts?

Speaker 2 (01:14:06):
Well apparently well not that he can keep a good, qualified,
educated workforce working away. I honestly, I think he's proving
the case that can be made that we can have
innovation we can we have creation, we can create great products,
we can pay workers, and you can do that in
this country like we used to, and you don't farm

(01:14:27):
out the labor into these other nations and then they
we've been under that. We've been in this trade war
everybody's crying about the war has been going on for
a long time. We just never been fighting back. We've
been a pinata war two. Yes, we've been the pinata
in this trade war since day one. And I don't
know why I missed a memo, but I never thought
that when we talked about free trade it meant you trade,

(01:14:50):
you send, you buy all our stuff, we buy none
of yours. I did not know that was what free
trade was actually all about.

Speaker 3 (01:14:57):
Been going on for a while. Unfortunately.

Speaker 1 (01:14:59):
All right, more it is the Wingman Wednesday edition of
the Rod and Greg Show on Talk Radio one oh
five nine k n r S.

Speaker 3 (01:15:06):
Climate change.

Speaker 2 (01:15:08):
Yeah again, until you're talking Mexico and the toilet that
they've made the Pacific Ocean into. I didn't want to
have nothing to discuss about environment. There's no climate to
talk about. If you cannot address that crisis, well.

Speaker 3 (01:15:26):
Shall we talk?

Speaker 1 (01:15:27):
Can we talk about this one story Okay, it's about
climate change with our guest.

Speaker 3 (01:15:32):
No before we go to our guest.

Speaker 2 (01:15:34):
Okay, what, well, go ahead, you can, But I'm not.
I'm not interested in anything about environmental stewardship until we
deal with the crisis and Mexico sending all that raw
human sewage into the Pacific Ocean, destroying the beaches in
the United States, Southern California, and the seals can't even
train in it. I can't even I can't even think
about it. I was not going to not going to pay.

Speaker 1 (01:15:58):
Ready for this California snowe at records not seen in decades,
good or like high, Yeah, like unbelievable. The April first reading,
considered the most important, follows two previous years, when the
snowpack reached one hundred and eleven percent of normal on
April first. Last year was two hundred and thirty seven

(01:16:19):
percent of normal. This year again, it's above one hundred percent.

Speaker 2 (01:16:22):
That wouldn't be in southern California.

Speaker 1 (01:16:24):
No, that's a serien event. Yeah, they're coming to they
come around hours.

Speaker 2 (01:16:27):
Pass good luck. Yeah right there.

Speaker 3 (01:16:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:16:29):
Now, because I'm gonna say, if it's the runoff and
where they've had the fires, I will just turn into
mud slides and more, you know, disaster.

Speaker 1 (01:16:36):
Well, joining us on our Newsmaker line right now to
talk about the climate is our friend Joel Kotkin. He
is a professor of urban studies at Chapman University. Joel,
great to have you back on the show. You're right
about the fact that the climate has changed. On climate change.
When did all this begin, Joel?

Speaker 8 (01:16:51):
Well, I think there have been several things. One is
the fact that every country that's adopted the sort of
wind soul or approach on on energy has basically had,
you know, very high energy prices.

Speaker 11 (01:17:06):
I mean, one of.

Speaker 8 (01:17:07):
The big promises of the Greens was, oh, if you
do wind and solar, you'll have essentially free energy forever. Well,
then explain to me why Germany, Denmark, and California have
among the highest energy prices in the world. We certainly
shouldn't in California given our climate and the fact that.

Speaker 11 (01:17:24):
We haven't been sitting on a huge pool of oil
and gas. But that's another story.

Speaker 8 (01:17:30):
But but I think that that you know, fundamentally that
the economics stop working, and then when they started implementing
the net zero business, then all of a sudden, you
said well, you can't have nitrogen fertilizers like Dutch farmers,
you know, probably the most efficient farmers.

Speaker 11 (01:17:46):
The more they what and and then you know the
uh uh and what's you know.

Speaker 8 (01:17:53):
Then they said to the ev well, that essentially is
seeding the automobile industry of Germany to uh to China
seemed like the world's best move. So I just think
it was falling apart. You know, we have to realize
it was falling apart in corporate circles and in the
marketplace for about two or three years before Trump. You

(01:18:17):
know who you know basically maybe is doing the couda
gross although but Trump you could never use the word gross.

Speaker 2 (01:18:24):
So Joe, here's here's the thing that I'm I'm I look,
there's a there's a study out with the lowest energy
prices or electricity prices of all the states in the nation.
It's the most expensive. Uh Utah, where we live, is
ranked fourth. If you look. I don't count Hawaii because
they're in the middle of nowhere, so there there grid
and their infrastructure is kind of tough. I would imagine

(01:18:44):
out there. I'm not pro but I'm not going to
count Hawaii being the most expensive but next is calent
So but I am going to count California and I
am going to count Massachusetts. The if electricity and energy
costs so much, is so prohibitive, the most prohibitive or
highest energy costs or electricity costs in the country, you're
found in California Massachusetts. Something tells me that these are

(01:19:06):
politicians making decisions about energy and electricity, not maybe not
the engineers or those that know how to deliver a
good a good market and a fair market of energy.
Is that Is that a good assumption?

Speaker 8 (01:19:21):
I think that's pretty accurate. You know, I've lived in
California now for over a half century, and you know,
when we we never thought about energy costs as being
a big problem. I mean Department of Water and Power.
I lived in the city of Los Angeles for forty years.
You know, it was usually below the market price, and

(01:19:41):
the rest of the state, you know, we you know,
you did get start to get higher gasoline prices. I
drive very little, so I didn't notice, but it's certainly there.
And then I think that what's what's really happened is
that these policies where you basically when you say we're
not we're not going to use power from nuclear in

(01:20:04):
some cases, not even hydro, from oil and gas well,
and obviously not coal.

Speaker 11 (01:20:11):
Well, what are you gonna do.

Speaker 8 (01:20:12):
You're gonna have very you know, you're gonna have very
high prices, and you're gonna because the sun doesn't shine
twenty four hours a day and the wind doesn't blow
for protracted periods of time, you know, you're you're going
to constantly need a backup system, you know, nuclear.

Speaker 11 (01:20:30):
Or natural gas. Probably.

Speaker 8 (01:20:34):
So, I mean the physics, and I'm not I'm not
gonna give electron physics because I should surely shouldn't. Uh,
But everybody I know who is familiar with physics say
that the physics of the green energy revolution just don't work.

Speaker 1 (01:20:47):
Joe, let me ask you this question. The one thing
that I've always thought very interesting is these wild predictions
that the climate change narrative has made. You know, we're
gonna burn to death, We're going to freeze to death,
there's not enough food, there are too many people, all
these predictions over the years, and a lot of people,
common sense people look at these and go, really, I mean,

(01:21:09):
how much do you think that is that has hurt
the climate change movement?

Speaker 11 (01:21:14):
That's a great point.

Speaker 8 (01:21:15):
Well, I think one of the things that really hurt
the climate change movement is news cannot be managed anymore
by the New York Times, even the Wall Street Journal,
and certainly by NPR and AP. I mean, these people
have been proven to be inaccurate and unbalanced at best.

(01:21:36):
I mean, the reality is that take a look at
the claims made over the last twenty years about.

Speaker 11 (01:21:42):
Where we would be at. I mean, and you have
some of them.

Speaker 8 (01:21:47):
We're talking about mass starvation. Well, you know, we seem
to be producing more food than we ever did before.
You know, we're certainly the world population growth is slowing
and is actually in the ese in most advanced countries.
And you know, we seem to have with particularly nuclear

(01:22:08):
power and a way of really producing good non GHD
elect Jersey, But the Greens have been blocking that.

Speaker 11 (01:22:18):
I mean, in a funny way.

Speaker 8 (01:22:20):
What's happened, and I think this is across the.

Speaker 11 (01:22:22):
American left, is that the most extreme.

Speaker 8 (01:22:25):
People on a particular issue get to determine the position
on that issue. I mean, if you're but if you're
running particularly in the state, let's say like Pennsylvania or Ohio,
you can't take the same that position because you destroy
your local economy.

Speaker 11 (01:22:42):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:22:43):
Can I ask you this question the Green New Deal
that was passed during what they called the Inflation Reduction Act,
which was the Green New Deal. But was that Was
that really a piece of legislation and funding, federal funding
to be good stewards of the planet and to see
a clean earth? Or was that a or is that
a policy to compel behavior? To me, it seemed less

(01:23:06):
to do with a clean air or a cleaner environment
and more to do with how we how the government
would compel human beings to behave what's your take on
the agenda from the last administration.

Speaker 18 (01:23:19):
Well, you need a psychiatrist, probably.

Speaker 11 (01:23:26):
Faith.

Speaker 8 (01:23:26):
But as my friend Mike lind has pointed out, you know,
and it's quite brilliant analysis, the environmentalists and the progressives
in generally, but the environmentalists in particular are the inheritors
of the New England Puritan tradition and which we shouldn't
really enjoy what we have.

Speaker 11 (01:23:46):
We should feel guilty.

Speaker 8 (01:23:49):
And that those who are better educated, uh I have
piled on more degrees.

Speaker 11 (01:23:56):
Wasted more money in many cases.

Speaker 8 (01:23:59):
We should listen to them and and forget any other opinion.
So I think that I think that the the I
think they have overplayed their hand.

Speaker 11 (01:24:11):
People look around.

Speaker 8 (01:24:12):
I mean, I've lived in Calvin's for fifty years. You know,
guess what we get droughts. California has been getting droughts,
you know for the last two thousand years. You know,
we we know that California climate. You know, it's changed.
The climate changes over time.

Speaker 11 (01:24:29):
If you read history, you read the Fate of Rome,
uh that.

Speaker 8 (01:24:35):
You know that Karl Harper has written, you know the
role of climate change in the rise and fall of
the Roman Empire. I mean, we're actually probably experiencing a
lot less climate change than people in the past.

Speaker 1 (01:24:48):
Did Joel Kotkin from Chaptain University talking about climate changed?
On climate change, I think it has. I think the
climate changes every day. I mean, if you think about it,
the weather change just every day. Is that climate change?

Speaker 3 (01:25:01):
That is so true?

Speaker 2 (01:25:02):
Yes it is. You're you're exactly right. Yeah, yeah, I
can change quere nimble where we cant and I don't
like cold weather. I'm so ready for the temperature me too.

Speaker 3 (01:25:13):
This weekend, maybe nights.

Speaker 2 (01:25:14):
You can make it. I I hope the whole globe
just goes up. All you just summer all year round.
I don't need any other seasons. Yeah, that's it. Go
to Canada, cold weather, Go to Canada, Canada. They won't
take it anymore. They don't like us. Oh please, that
hard to get.

Speaker 1 (01:25:34):
Yeah, they are all right. Final thoughts coming up on
The Roden greg Show and Talk Radio one O five
nine k n R S.

Speaker 2 (01:25:40):
It's the theme of this show. I'm your wingman, Goose,
you're Maverick.

Speaker 3 (01:25:45):
You know, got a lot of good movies.

Speaker 2 (01:25:47):
Ice Man's your rival. Now he's passed. But no, he's good. Yeah,
I I really love that. He was a good, great actor.

Speaker 3 (01:25:56):
You know, they're making a Top Gun three.

Speaker 2 (01:25:59):
They are you sure?

Speaker 3 (01:25:59):
I think they are?

Speaker 16 (01:26:00):
Really?

Speaker 3 (01:26:01):
I think so. I mean how much older.

Speaker 2 (01:26:04):
I get away with flying planes for much longer?

Speaker 11 (01:26:08):
Now?

Speaker 3 (01:26:09):
I mean his eyesight's got to be going sooner or later.

Speaker 2 (01:26:12):
When you think, I think you know, father time's going
to catch up with him one of these days. You
better go out gracefully. I think I think too. I
don't know how you topped the second Usually the sequels
aren't is good, and that sequel was good.

Speaker 3 (01:26:25):
It's your favorite movie, I think.

Speaker 2 (01:26:27):
Better than Gladiator two wasn't as good. That was it?

Speaker 3 (01:26:29):
Was it was.

Speaker 2 (01:26:30):
It was okay, it was Gladiator was just didn't it
didn't keep the pace.

Speaker 1 (01:26:35):
We were in the habit occasionally making fun of California occai. Yeah,
we like to make fun of California.

Speaker 2 (01:26:41):
If by occasionally you mean all the time.

Speaker 1 (01:26:42):
Yes, yes, Well there is one city in California that
has been recognized as the best run city.

Speaker 2 (01:26:51):
In America, in California, California. That's fake news. Don't don't,
don't show no. Yeah, I'm not sharing fake news with you.
Hunting didn't beat California. Oh yes, Beach, California.

Speaker 1 (01:27:04):
Cordy new new poll and the city council all Republican
and maga. And I know somebody from hunting In Beach.
He speaks very highly of Huntingdon Beach. Grew up there,
surf there, loved it.

Speaker 2 (01:27:19):
I'm telling you, I've I've gone to Huntington Beach.

Speaker 3 (01:27:22):
Yeah, I've been through it.

Speaker 2 (01:27:22):
To make America great, flags flying everywhere, the people are they.
You know It's so funny is that they even have
restaurant districts there where they get the oil pumps pumping
up the oil. They got the they got the offshore
drilling going on in California of all places, but in
Huntington they don't care.

Speaker 1 (01:27:39):
I know they don't. So best run city in America.
That's why services are great. You know what else did
they talk about? The budget is within reason, education and
healthy residents there. I mean they all just love it.

Speaker 2 (01:27:52):
Yeah, it's such a beautiful place.

Speaker 17 (01:27:54):
I love it.

Speaker 2 (01:27:55):
It's right next to Newport Beach. That's kind of the swink.
Yes for the Sishi you know.

Speaker 3 (01:27:59):
Va the Newport Beach. Thank you.

Speaker 2 (01:28:01):
The bougie, that's the bougie, thank you, thank you. I
keep it real on the field in hunting that's where
I go.

Speaker 11 (01:28:10):
I know.

Speaker 2 (01:28:11):
That's like I said, that's where the that's where the
blue bloods go.

Speaker 3 (01:28:13):
Thanks uh.

Speaker 1 (01:28:16):
Bill Maher, Yes, had dinner last night with Donald Trump.

Speaker 2 (01:28:20):
If you heard any I don't know anything about it.

Speaker 1 (01:28:22):
He's waiting until the show Friday night to share his
thoughts on what that medium was like.

Speaker 3 (01:28:26):
Real time kid Rocks.

Speaker 2 (01:28:27):
Say that it went well, went well. I believed it
went well. Yes, he thought Kid Rock thought it was
an irony of all the money that Bill maher overtime
has given to presidential Democrat presidential candidates. He had never
ever been to the White house. That was his first
really invite and attendance, and and and and Trump gave
him a big tour. They went and saw the Lincoln bedroom.

Speaker 3 (01:28:46):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:28:46):
One thing I heard is mar put together this big
card or like you know, a cardboard of all the
insults that he's he's levied against Trump over the over
the years, showed it to the President. The President signed it.
That's that's a story I've heard. I don't know if
that's troue. I heard somebody talking about that today. But
Trump apparently signed it.

Speaker 2 (01:29:06):
Well, you know, he caught him in a good mood.
I mean, he must have thought you were you're you know. Look,
I think the guy is easy to get along with
Trump nor Trumper. More than people would understand. He is
a he is a pretty underous guy. Yeah, in the
open book, he's just very inquisitive about things. Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:29:25):
Anyways, all right, that doesn't for us tonight, as we
wrap up this Wingman Wednesday, as we say each and
every night, head up, shoulders back, and God bless you
and your family. That's great country of ours as well.
We'll talk to you tomorrow and f

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