The Rod and Greg Show: Kennedy is Close to the Truth; Wray's FBI and Turning Point USA Twitter; Pop Marxism

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Well, the story keeps moving, I mean not moving, but evolving,
and it's ongoing. It's happening in real time, and it's happening.
It's something that has captured the tension, the attention of
not only the nation, but if you looked over the
weekend the world, there were visuals around the world, and
it's happened here in our state and orm Utah at
Uvu and a small What I would argue is Utah

(00:20):
politics is a small world where many many people know
each other, and so it is surreal. It is the
most it's so sad, it's still it's just such a tragedy.
So we're just trying to grapple with it. We continue
to do that, and this show for me, has been
very important because of our listeners, the calls that have
come in, and I just can't thank our listeners enough

(00:40):
for calling in and sharing their insight, their feelings. I
think it's been important. It's been important for me at
least I appreciate it.

Speaker 2 (00:47):
And you're right, great people wherever I go, people are
still talking about this and coming up to me and
asking me questions, do you know anything more? It's pretty amazing.
They have really become engaged in this story and they
want to know more. Now, a little bit later on,
if we'll have some time later on, we'll we'll play
a comment from Mark Halpern and Mark former journalist of

(01:07):
course now is his own website. But he talks about
the connection that Charlie Kirk had with people, and I
think he's pretty close to spot on. And we'll get
into that. But welcome Everyboddy. It is the Rod and
Greg Show with you on This Wingman Wednesday and Utah's
Talk Radio one oh five nine kN rs live everywhere
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(01:28):
I'm Rod Arquette, I'm citizen Greg Hughes. All right, before
we start off, we need to mention there has been
a shooting, this one in Pennsylvania. Two police officers are
in serious condition. Apparently they were serving an arrest warrant
and the an individual they am identified came out and
started firing. A total of five officers were struck to
or in very serious condition at this hour.

Speaker 1 (01:51):
Yeah, and again I think we're just going to be hearing.
I just think it's an evil world. I have not
up to this point, up until last week, you maybe
religious terms in my politics and my and my commentary.
My faith is real personal to me, so I don't
wear it on my sleeve. I don't talk about it much.
I I can't really come up with a different description
than evil. I can't come up with a different description

(02:13):
than demonic, and I and I and I'm sorry, folks,
but that's I, you know, I just I just cannot
put this into a different worldview or a different platform.
I think we are being confronted. We are confronting evil
in ways that I don't at least in my life,
I haven't seen that.

Speaker 2 (02:30):
Yeah, there is evil out there, and I think most
people recognize that. And we've got to realize there are
people out there who are influenced by whatever, but evil
gets into their mind. And like like this Tyler Robinson,
something got into him and he turned from a kid
who was he was a good student. Greg came from
what appears to be a very stable family. So what

(02:51):
turned him? It was evil? Yeah, it was It's.

Speaker 1 (02:55):
Something dark, something dark, And I'm telling you that there's
this is what I think we have. I'm going to again.
I want our young people debating diversity of thought. I
want all of this as Charlie Kirk has set such
an incredible example. I'm going to give you your cover.
I'm going to call out the evil. I've done my debating.
I've done that. Okay. My role now, as I see it, is,

(03:16):
I'm calling out the ones that are here in bad faith,
that want to harm and scare and commit violence to
compel behavior, because I think it's out here, loud and proud.
I even think our former president Obama has fallen in
or purposely is engaging and lies. He says, I never
I never politicized things. And you know he shouldn't say
that in twenty twenty five, because you can find within

(03:37):
thirty minutes I've got examples of him politicizing. He says,
I am politicizing school violent school shootings because it needs
to be I'm doing it. He accused Trump of very
fine people right before the election, which everyone, including the
New York Times, had already debunked. And I guess he
didn't get the memo the dad been a lie. This
guy's also engaging in it, and I'm going to call

(03:57):
it out. Well, call it out every time I see it.

Speaker 2 (03:59):
Speaking of calling it out, boy, is the media ever
being called out now? For some of the most ridiculous
things they're saying. I'm gonna play this, and we've been
talking about this today. This is Montel Williams. Remember Montell
Williams had a talk show, Pretty popular guy, Armor, Navy
Guy or something like that. One time dated Kamala Harris.

Speaker 1 (04:19):
Yeah, that's correct. He doesn't brag about that very much.
I never heard he never leads with that now.

Speaker 2 (04:23):
But he was on that panel discussion they have every
night on CNN. This is how he explained what happened
a week ago today and wait to hear how Scott
Jennings responded to it, talking about.

Speaker 3 (04:33):
A love torn child, a kid. This is probably his
first real relationship and somebody was disparaging the person that
he loved. He sat on that building for argument before
he took the shot. Why do you wait until the
first World trance came up? Then he took the shot.

Speaker 4 (04:51):
You think he heard it?

Speaker 1 (04:52):
He could hear I think he.

Speaker 3 (04:52):
Could hear it. I think he also. I don't believe
he was motivated politically. I think this was motivated emotionally.

Speaker 5 (04:59):
Yes, guys, the evidence here is overwhelming, he said Charlie Kirk.

Speaker 2 (05:08):
I can't stand his hate anymore.

Speaker 5 (05:10):
I'm going to take him out. The testimony from him,
in the statements of his family, he had become more
left wing. He etched the statements that are made by
the left about Republicans and conservatives and Charlie Kirk fascist
on the bullet casing.

Speaker 1 (05:26):
He made a joke about it in his last text.

Speaker 5 (05:28):
But it doesn't sound like a joke to me, because
someone's dead and about to be buried, so it doesn't
sound like a joke to me. So I'm just telling
you there is an effort. There was an effort all
weekend long on the left to try to make this
guy sound like he was a conservative.

Speaker 2 (05:42):
That failed.

Speaker 5 (05:43):
That was passed around all over the week, and that
has now failed. The evidence has now come out. He
was motivated by hate, He was motivated by.

Speaker 2 (05:50):
Left wing radicalism.

Speaker 5 (05:52):
He got mixed up with some trans ideology in his life.
We'll learn more about that, I'm sure when more evidence
and testimony comes out. We are looking around the edges
of this for something other.

Speaker 6 (06:03):
Than what's staring us in the face.

Speaker 5 (06:06):
Left wing radicalism got this kid. He went up to
a roof and he murdered our friend.

Speaker 2 (06:12):
You know, I have never I have never seen or
heard Scott Jennings get as animated as he did last
dig But for Montel Williams to say he was a
love struck person. He did this because of love? Are
you kidding me?

Speaker 1 (06:25):
And I thought Scott Jennings handled that moment? Well, yeah,
because what I tell I'd tell Montalus he needs to
slow down. He needs to stop romanticizing and downplaying the
murder of a of a husband and a father the
way he's doing it. Don't call it a you know,
a love story as he's trying to say. And how
in the world is he going to tell that audience
what the real motive was. There's a prosecutor from Utah

(06:47):
County that knows a lot of details. You know, there's
there's there's law enforcement that knows a lot of details.
There's a lot there. The hubris of Montel Williams to
inform the people on that CNN panel what really happened.
It does not comport with what the press conferences have said,
the what the what the charging documents have said. He's again,
I just I just hope people are paying attention to

(07:09):
what's happening around us, because these are just these are
just lies. They're trying to downplay Charlie Kirk's assassination and
it's it's wrong.

Speaker 2 (07:17):
Well, yeah, and they're doing everything they can. Monte Williams
saying it love other networks and we'll play this a
little bit later on Ted Cruz goes off on CNN
again last night, where they're saying, yet again, Greg, well
we don't have a real clear motive in this. Are
you kidding me? The motive is ease. They're still saying this,
he hated Charlie Kirk and he wanted to kill him.

Speaker 1 (07:36):
I mean his words speak volumes.

Speaker 2 (07:38):
I mean they speak volumes.

Speaker 1 (07:39):
For ques. You just flip the script and you put
the different parties into different places. I think they would
not have this wouldn't be a Da Vinci code trying
to figure out.

Speaker 7 (07:46):
What was motivating this kid. They know exactly what he's
talking about. They absolutely so we've got a lot to
get to today. As always, we invite you to be
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nine KNRS. Welcome back to the show, everybody. I'm rod

(08:10):
Ar Kitt. Great to be with you on this Wingman
Wednesday afternoon. By the way, live coverage of the memorial
service for Charlie Kirk taking place in Glendale, Arizona, this
Sunday afternoon at noon our time, and we'll have live coverage.
A long list of people will be thinking and sharing
their thoughts about Charlie Kirk, including President Trump and his

(08:31):
wife Erica. So that's coming up on Sunday. Live coverage
begins at noon right here on Utah's Talk Radio one
oh five nine K and R. Now, Cash Bettel added
again today before House Committee, you heard some of his
confrontations yesterday in the Senate, Well it is a repeat
again today in the House. He went after several Democrats

(08:51):
and it was what one or two weeks ago that
RFK Junior basically went through the same thing and when
not going to back down against his feelings about vaccines,
about healthcare in America. Well, what is driving Washington so
nuts about RFK Junior. Joining us on our Newsmaker line
right now is David Mannie. He is a writer, contributor,
at PJ Media. David, how are you welcome to the

(09:12):
Rod and Greg Show.

Speaker 4 (09:13):
I'm doing pretty good.

Speaker 8 (09:14):
Thank you.

Speaker 2 (09:15):
All right, let me ask you, Davids, what what is
he doing that is driving some in DC so crazy?

Speaker 4 (09:20):
I think he could say.

Speaker 8 (09:21):
More than some because when's the last.

Speaker 4 (09:23):
When is the last time you saw bipartisan firing squads?

Speaker 2 (09:28):
Oh that's true, that's true.

Speaker 4 (09:29):
You know, it's especially the last eight years. You know,
he's catching it from you know, both Republicans and Democrats,
his family, you know. I think about the only organization
that hasn't come down on the guy is probably the
Voice Scouts from northern Minnesota.

Speaker 1 (09:47):
And do tell why is that? Because you're right, it's
an anomaly certainly.

Speaker 4 (09:52):
Well, I think the best analogy I can come up
with is, you know, the CDC, for example, It's an
organization that's rough eighty years old. It's had a couple
you know, different you know, reorganizations, different stuff like that,
nothing really major. But the analogy I can think of is,
you know, think of a house that survived a really

(10:12):
bad flood. Water's gone, but what you have left you got,
you know, moldy, mildew, black mold everywhere, And how do
you fix it, You have to tear it down to
make it better. And that between that and you know,
having President Trump in the same room, basically that's driving

(10:33):
everybody crazy because he's doing something that nobody's ever done,
at least as far as I can tell.

Speaker 2 (10:38):
Yeah, David, I get the sense that RFK Junior has
the backing of President Trump. That's exactly what Donald Trump
wants done, not only with aj JAFS, but almost every
government agency based in Washington. He's doing what the president wants,
isn't he?

Speaker 9 (10:53):
Oh?

Speaker 4 (10:53):
Absolutely, And if you think of it, you know Trump
is not just focusing on one thing. He's like focusing
on so many things. I don't think the media knows
which way to bark at.

Speaker 1 (11:04):
That is so true. So here's where I think that
RFK Junior has gotten so much traction. We as Americans
have seen our health decline. We see it in a
number of children that have are on the spectrum of autism.
We're seeing it in comparison as we learn that other
countries don't allow certain things in their foods that we do.
And then you're seeing these big corporations where you're worried

(11:24):
that their ability to make money might be driving what's
in your food or we're putting in our bodies over
what's the most healthy for us. So I think there's
an appetite for someone to really shake it up. My
question is is RFK Junior, in your mind, getting to
the heart of the problem or is he riding a
wave of worry but he's not really making any progress.

Speaker 4 (11:46):
I think he's getting to the root of the problem,
but he's got so many feet of flotsom to get
to before he can get to it, if that makes sense.
You know, and look at the two big things that
Trump is doing, the military complex and our health those
are two of the biggest money makers in probably the
nation really, and like you were saying, before you mess

(12:07):
up one cart, it's not going to go over well.

Speaker 2 (12:10):
David. In your wonderful article in PJ Media about this,
you raised an interesting question basically asking what are they hiding?
What do you think the CDC, the healthcare industry in
this country today, particularly in Washington, what are they hiding?

Speaker 4 (12:27):
Well, if you look at it, you know things we
don't see. Are you know, money under the table, any
kind of political payoffs, some you know, quid pro quo
with contracts, here and there, and like I said, after
eighty years, that becomes routine. And that's a lot of
relationship that I think goes across political lines, and that

(12:49):
is one of the reasons I think why both parties
let them have it.

Speaker 1 (12:54):
So, I mean, I found that the Senate now, the
House hearings today, yesterday and today, they're performing. If I'm
a former state lawmaker, where committees actually do work, where
you actually are asking questions, where you're interested in the answer,
h these none of these seem to be very very productive.
What's the takeaway from you? I did anybody gain trust?
It didn't seem like anyone was interested in RFK Junior's

(13:16):
answers to the questions or at least the statements they
were making. Was any progress made with RFK Junior and
addressing Congress I last whatever that when that was a
week or so ago.

Speaker 4 (13:27):
Not as much as I think people wanted, because he
kept having to, you know, do what Patal had to do.
You know, like how many times did you repeat the
statement he's not removing any immunizations or vaccines, He's not
doing that. But you know he has just talked right
over like you know roadkilled.

Speaker 2 (13:45):
Yeah, you know the comment I think he made this
last week or whenever he testified there before before the
committee there in Congress, where he said, you know, we
are the sickest country in the world, and we shouldn't
be like that. With all the money we spent done that.
Wouldn't you think a message like that would resonate with
somebody in Washington, David.

Speaker 4 (14:06):
Not even Washington, but you know, everywhere, because I mean,
how many times have we heard a twenty minute walk
a day? But nobody does it. You know, we've so
accustomed to fast food, we expect fast health.

Speaker 1 (14:19):
So what had so just with your crystal ball? I
don't I don't personally feel that RFK Junior has lost credibility.
I think if you're going to take something on, there's
and it's inherently hard. If it wasn't hard, it had
already been done. Do you think that the President has
a confidence in his Secretary of Health and Human Services?
Do you think RFK will continue in this this role

(14:40):
going forward or do you think with all the criticism
he's taking, he might be he may his days may
be numbered.

Speaker 4 (14:46):
Well, the guy's been taking really harsh criticisms for how
many years, you know, I mean, right now, it's going
to be a really peculiar Christmas in the Kennedy family.
You know how many people. I don't think anybody from
the family him on his side. Yeah, yeah, but I
think he's going to I think he's going to stick
around until the President thinks the job is done because

(15:09):
you know, Kennedy's been devoted to this topic for decades.

Speaker 2 (15:13):
I think it's going to take more than four years
to change this. Would you agree, David?

Speaker 4 (15:18):
Absolutely? Absolutely, you need at least at least eight because again,
you're dealing with an eighty year old organization that is
pretty set in its ways.

Speaker 2 (15:26):
Yeah, sure is, David, great article. Thanks for a few
minutes of your time today, David, thank you.

Speaker 10 (15:30):
I appreciate it.

Speaker 2 (15:31):
Thank you all right on our Newsmaker line, David Manny,
writer contributor at PJ Median, I think, you know, I
think America does want to be healthy again. Greg. It's
not going to be easy to get there, but I
think RFK Junior is going to fight this as long
as he can.

Speaker 1 (15:46):
Absolutely, and I think he brought it up. I think
that David mentioned this guy's been fun, he's got thick skin,
he's been going against the grain for a long term,
entire career, and I think he's I think he's got
the grit, and I think we need a change in course.
I think the trajectory we're on is not sustainable.

Speaker 2 (16:00):
So it is all right. We've got a lot more
to get to on this Wednesday afternoon wing Man Wednesday
on The Rod and Gregg Show and Talk Radio one
O five nine k n rs. Eras, there's such a
thing as a goose call. I know there's a duck call.
Is there there a goose call? We should get them one?
You don't want one.

Speaker 1 (16:17):
He got me onto the bar that they were at
for the at that top gun. I went and I
went there when I know San Diego took pics.

Speaker 2 (16:24):
I know you did.

Speaker 1 (16:25):
I put them online, okay goose Yeah. I went to
the piano and everything. I didn't learn how to play
it though.

Speaker 2 (16:30):
Welcome back, good, Welcome back to the Rod and Greg Show.
The operation was called Arctic Frost. We learned about it
yesterday from Senator Chuck Grassley as Cash Bettel testified before
a Senate committee as to what exactly Arctic Frost is. Well,
let's find out about it. Joining us on our newsmaker
line right now is Beth Brilliant. She has an elected

(16:51):
elections correspondent for the Federalist Beth, how are you welcome
back to the Rod and Greg Show.

Speaker 8 (16:56):
Hey, great to be back guy, It's nice to chat
with you.

Speaker 2 (16:59):
Beth. All right, tell us what Arctic Frost Operation Arctic
Frost is all about.

Speaker 8 (17:05):
Well, originally it was supposed to be just something to
take down Donald Trump, right, it was the conspiracy of
Trump that he was going to try to turn over
the twenty twenty election and the investigation into that within
the deep state. But it turns out we've known about

(17:26):
Arctic Frost for a while, but what we didn't know
is that it wasn't just for Trump. The scope of
this investigation was across all of the whole apparatus at
the Republican Party. They went after They have a list
of ninety seven conservative groups which was released by Senator

(17:50):
Chuck Rasley yesterday, and on that list turning Point USA.
So you know that was one of the groups they
wanted to take down. Yeah, it's pretty crazy. They had
the FBI, the Department of Justice, and the Office of
Inspector General, three agencies, hundreds of people interviewed, thousands of

(18:16):
taxpayer funded hours spent investigating. Uh, all these Republicans.

Speaker 1 (18:24):
Beth, what does that mean? I okay, so they were targeted.
The FBI was targeting Charlie Kirk and Turning Point US say,
but what what would targeting mean? Were they were they
spying on their phone calls? Were they auditing their tax returns?
What is what does it mean to be targeted by
the FBI? Asking for a friend, doctor, that's fair?

Speaker 8 (18:47):
Well, you know what they were doing was using all
the investigative tools that the FBI m v o J have,
you know, like I can't just go to a bank
and insist that they give me someone's record, but the
FBI can do it, and they did. Most of what
they did was looking at the bank records of groups

(19:10):
and individuals, and they also looked at credit reports. But
they were really trying to find in fact, they even
have here that they were like looking for misappropriation of funds.
Now with the Turning Point USA, they were looking to
see if Charlie Kirkirk's organization had given money to support

(19:35):
January sixth, So that was really the focus of that investigation.
But it's not listed as a completed investigation. Some of
them on the list are listed as completed and some
are still in process. But it seems like it kind
of petered out somewhere between twenty twenty two and twenty

(19:56):
twenty three, at least that's when they were asking for,
you know, hunt or of subpoenas to to just dig
into people. So it's pretty uncomfortable if the federal government
starts digging into your bank records and your credit report.
You know what's that all about?

Speaker 2 (20:15):
Beth? Are there other organizations on that list that we
would recognize immediately other than Turning Point USA?

Speaker 8 (20:23):
Oh? Certainly. You know my pillow, you know, he's not named,
and I'm trying to think of the.

Speaker 1 (20:30):
Against that pillow. It's very comfortable. Red pillow is a
very comfortable pillow.

Speaker 8 (20:37):
I got to tell you, I went to a friend's
house and and she gave me a pillow to sleep bottom.

Speaker 4 (20:43):
This is yeah.

Speaker 1 (20:44):
However, get a life, you get away from them?

Speaker 2 (20:49):
Yeah, kind of crazy? Yeah, well, Bet, thank you, Yeah,
thank you very much for your time. We're up on
a hard hit time now, but thank you for your time.
Fascinating story on this, Beth, Thank you. Thanks all right?
Joining us on our newsmaker line from the Federalist Beth
Brilliant talking about Arctic Frost Operation. Arctic Frost, look at it,

(21:12):
you know after the pillow guy.

Speaker 1 (21:14):
Yes, like man.

Speaker 2 (21:17):
On one of his pillows every night.

Speaker 1 (21:19):
Absolutely, Charlie Kirk point.

Speaker 2 (21:22):
Leave the guy alone. All right? More coming up on
the Roden greg Show and Utah's Talk Radio one oh
five nine.

Speaker 1 (21:28):
Okay, you're going to get that offer and you're going
to get that assessment. No obligation, but if you do,
you get that.

Speaker 2 (21:34):
Thou outside of my condo complex.

Speaker 11 (21:37):
We have a pond in our at our condo complex
and hang out there frequently. We had one that was
a nesting pair and they were somewhere nesting near my
place and I walked outside and then I must have
got too close to where they were nesting and it
dive bond me off the.

Speaker 2 (21:53):
Top of one of the condo bills.

Speaker 1 (21:54):
Wow, I love that. I does that make me so happy?
I have attack had instincts. Maybe that was just a
really smart all right, there is I'm a citizen, hughs.
But it's when we so I'm goose, the aviator, not

(22:15):
the navigator, not the goose, the animal with.

Speaker 2 (22:18):
The Mavericks, I'm flying ship, you're math I got it,
you got it all right. Do you hear this story
in Illinois about this television news anchor who quit over
a tearful Charlie Kirk tribute.

Speaker 1 (22:30):
Well, she quick because she got suspended.

Speaker 2 (22:32):
She was suspended, and she said, I don't have to
deal with this. I'm gonna quit.

Speaker 9 (22:36):
Now.

Speaker 2 (22:37):
Listen to a portion of what she said. Now, she
appears to be a news anchor on one of these
mid day shows that all the TV's.

Speaker 1 (22:43):
Just like Human Interest. You know, we do a little
bit of.

Speaker 2 (22:45):
Yeah, a little bit of this cooking all this. But
this is what she had to say in tribute to
Charlie Kirk two days ago.

Speaker 12 (22:51):
I lost a mentor my first book, the first person
who made me believe in myself, that encouraged me to
chase this stream that you're why right now, Charlie Kirk,
there's a lot of there's a lot going on in
our world right now, in our country, but I want
to say one thing. Lean on your neighbors, speak up
for what you believe in. I don't care what it is.

(23:14):
I want to share with you. One of my favorite
saying is that Charlie would always tell us at the office.
He would yell it from the mountaintop. So please listen.
When conversations stop happening, when individuals become wordless, that's when
violence begins.

Speaker 6 (23:31):
So if you do one thing today.

Speaker 12 (23:33):
Make it be with passion, with conviction. Stand up for
your friends, stand up for your belief.

Speaker 2 (23:40):
Yeah, now you you heard what she said. Should she
have been suspended?

Speaker 1 (23:44):
Absolutely not so. Charlie Kirk was her first boss, and
the and the professional.

Speaker 2 (23:49):
She is a TV news anchor, she.

Speaker 1 (23:50):
Is, and I think that she was not. There was
nothing partisan about what she was saying. It was too
that we have to keep talking her. That's when violence begins.
And I think that that's a that's a real human moment.
And who who among us has not felt, if you
have a heart and you're a human, hasn't felt grief
and anguish over what happened to that poor man. I mean,
I think again, I remember the caller that said that

(24:13):
that back when Reagan was shot, people weren't Republicans or
Democrats when he was shot. Even if they couldn't stand
him as a president, they couldn't bear the thought he
was shot. We have not had that with some but
I thought that was just a real human emotion from
someone who knew Charlie Kirkwell and first boss. For her
to get it, for her to get be suspended over
those comments, it seems wrong to me. Just seems wrong.

Speaker 2 (24:35):
Okay, I would disagree. You would, Yeah, I would.

Speaker 1 (24:38):
You think she shouldn't have got into that.

Speaker 2 (24:41):
If she was going to do that, she should run
it past her bosses first, Okay, and just say I'd
like to say something about my first boss. But before that,
we've just say something, give him my heads up, because
that probably took him by surprise. And as a journalist,
I would say, you shouldn't have done that.

Speaker 1 (24:56):
Get out.

Speaker 2 (24:58):
I'm just saying you shouldn't have done You.

Speaker 1 (25:01):
Have no heart, like I did not know you had
a piece of black cole inside your body. I'm you
gotta be kidding, wouldn't you? You were on air? You
were on air. You're someone that you know and worked for,
that hired you, that was a mentor to you, is
passing away, and you are covering that in some degree.
You are not going.

Speaker 2 (25:20):
To try and keep your composure as best as you
possibly can.

Speaker 1 (25:23):
So it's the crying part that was the problem, not.

Speaker 2 (25:25):
What I think if she wanted to say something, she
should have run up past her boss said I'd let Well,
she wouldn't have been suspended.

Speaker 1 (25:33):
Maybe she just got into it too much.

Speaker 2 (25:34):
Yeah. Oh, by the way, breaking news a ready, just
guess who's been suspended? Speaking of being suspended.

Speaker 1 (25:41):
Well, certainly no one that you know likes Charlie Kirk,
because that's who you would suspend.

Speaker 2 (25:45):
But who Jimmy Kimmel. Oh Kimmel.

Speaker 1 (25:49):
Well, you know, the chairman of the.

Speaker 2 (25:52):
Chairman of the FCC said today that they were going
to take a look at Jimmy Kimmel, and because he's
a broadcaster controlled by the Federal Communications Commission, they were
going to investigate him. Well, as a result of that,
breaking news coming from the Hollywood Reporter tonight is that
ABC is now pulling the show.

Speaker 1 (26:13):
They probably wanted to pull it anyway because it's probably
hemorrhaging money, but no, you.

Speaker 2 (26:16):
Know what, they're pulling the show on Kimmel.

Speaker 1 (26:20):
Well, look, the big question yesterday was when he tried
to say, this is a Republican that's doing this, and
the and the MAGA and the Republicans are trying to
hide the factage Republican when the when the volume of
information or evidence is what it is. Many people said, well,
well he correct that record, will we walk back those comments?

Speaker 4 (26:37):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (26:37):
In his next show he did not.

Speaker 2 (26:39):
No, he didn't try. He didn't even try.

Speaker 1 (26:41):
He just kept going the wrong a way that is
absolutely deceptive. And I think that's what I don't think
we're allowed to knowingly lie. And according to you, we
can't even like cry if you're sad about Charlie Kurr.

Speaker 2 (26:54):
What a heartless all right, more coming up Gregg Show.

Speaker 1 (27:02):
But he is stating some opinions that I am frankly
shocked to hear. He is pro Kimmel, he is anti
the tearful journalist talk about her first boss watch Charlie
Kirk wat encouraging everyone to debate and to do it
with passion so that there's not silence and violence. And
Rod says he's just he'd boot her right off that program.

(27:23):
That's what you said, I.

Speaker 2 (27:26):
Would suspend her. Talking about this TV anchor who was
suspended for taking a moment at the end of her
broadcast to talk about Charlie kirk got very emotional about this,
probably something a news anchor shouldn't do.

Speaker 1 (27:38):
Are you prepared to express your opinion about Jimmy.

Speaker 2 (27:41):
Cam and Jimmy Kimmel. I think this. This worries me
a little bit. If someone is on the air saying
something and now they're being kicked off. Now we learn
the truth about Stephen Colbert when what happened because he
was losing money, the same thing could be going on
with Jimmy Kimmel and they're just looking for a excuse
to get rid of the guy. So what I would say, Oh,
by the way, for people who don't know Jemmy Kimmel, yeah,

(28:04):
just broke two minutes five minutes ago. Jimmy Kimmel show
has been pulled off after the chairman of the FCC
said today we're going to take a look into his
show and see what's going on, because ABC is a
publicly licensed by the FCC company, just like iHeartMedia is.

Speaker 1 (28:21):
And you have currently in your hand a candle of
which you are burning for Dreamy Kimmel and saying that
he was unjustly let go, and I am just appalled.
But let's just let's just unpack this a little bit,
because I will admit this. You are a This is
for at least since the television was invented. You have
been a member of the media, You've done this, You're
a professional spect So I I do acknowledge that you

(28:45):
know more than i'll You forgot more than I'll ever
know in the space. So I get that. But let's
hear what the SEC chairman said, because they are pointing
to that as the catalyst for why he was let go,
that he has he had some concerns and they were
going to investigate the things he was saying that were
so patently false and whether there was a problem with
their license for them to be able to have someone

(29:06):
like Jimmy Kimmel lying the way he was lying on
the air, and that concerns you. But I think we
got to listen to the clip.

Speaker 2 (29:13):
This is the chairman chairman of the FCC.

Speaker 1 (29:15):
See if you hear anything in what he says he's
concerned about that you would concur is something that you
should not be able to do, even on a late
night program like Jimmy Kimmel.

Speaker 2 (29:23):
Do you think we could lie on this show?

Speaker 1 (29:26):
I think we are better than that. There is no
version of life never even dawned on me.

Speaker 2 (29:31):
We could because I would, We can't, and we should
will lose credibility with the audience, just like that.

Speaker 1 (29:36):
Exactly.

Speaker 2 (29:37):
All right, let's hear this is Brendan Carr. He was
on what's the show called Bobby Jones? Is that his name? Yeah,
was on his show today and talked about the Jimmy
Kimmel Show.

Speaker 13 (29:46):
You know, when you look at the conduct that has
taken place by Jimmy Kimmel, it appears to be some
of the sickest conduct possible.

Speaker 2 (29:59):
As you've indicated it. There are avenues here for the FCC.

Speaker 13 (30:02):
So there are some ways in which I need to
be a little bit careful because we could be called
ultimately to be a judge on some of these claims
that come up. But I don't think this is an
isolated incident. I mean, you may have a license granted
by us at the FCC, and that comes with it
an obligation to operate in the public interest, and we
can get into some ways that we've been trying to
reinvigorate the public interest and some changes that we've seen.

(30:25):
But frankly, when you see stuff like this, I mean, look,
we can do this the easy way or the hard way.
These companies can find ways to change conduct, to take
action frankly on Kimmel or you know, there's gonna be
additional work for the FCC ahead.

Speaker 2 (30:40):
Now he'd set a key point in here, Greg the
FCC license radio and television stations around the country to
operate in the public interest.

Speaker 1 (30:50):
I wrote that down public guests.

Speaker 2 (30:52):
That's the hook they're going to use. Because what Kimmel
has been doing or what he said, I think it
was probably earlier this week. I didn't I don't want show.
I'm just doing clips of it. But he basically said
that Tyler Robinson was a MAGA guy, and it's proven
he's far from a mega guy. But Kimmel said that,
and that is incorrect, that's a that's not true. And

(31:15):
but this isn't the first time Kimmel has tried to
mislead his audience. And I think what he is saying
in the in the public interest. Maybe it's time we
take a look at Jimmy Kimmel's show.

Speaker 1 (31:26):
He said something interesting there. They can we can do
it a hard way or an easy way. These these
networks can can create policies and standards that that do
protect the public interest internally, or we as the FCC
have more work to do in terms of having to
define or say what that would be. And it looks
like that was heard loud and clear by Disney, the
parent company of ABC, and they let him go. What

(31:47):
I imagine this is pure conjecture, but I but just
the hubris of a guy like Jimmy.

Speaker 2 (31:52):
Kimmel, I can't stand him.

Speaker 1 (31:53):
I will bet that this didn't start with goodbye, here's
your bak slip to leave them. We're escorting out of
the building. I would I would that when this was said,
they said, Okay, we want to do this internally. We
want to make sure we have some clear, bright line
standards for truth and public and promoting the public interest
and things we can point to that we're making sure
is happening. So they probably went to Jimmy Kimmel and said,

(32:14):
you know how you've been saying it's magus fall that
he's actually a right wing guy. Well, we know now,
we heard the investigator, the prosecutor or county attorney. We
know that's actually not true at all. We'd like you
to walk back what you've been saying. We'd like you
to correct the record and make sure that the record
is as it is. And I would bet you dollars
to donuts that he said, no, I will not do it.

(32:36):
I will not take anything back I've said. And I
think at that point he might have been shown the door.
I'll bet you anything. Knowing that character, that's how that
rolled out.

Speaker 2 (32:44):
What do we always say on stories like this, follow
the money? Yeah, Stephen Colbert was let go. I think
because wuld they say fortion year, forty million a year?
He was making twenty million a year. They were losing.
I wonder how much Kimmel was making and how much
much money they're losing knowing what he has done ever
since Donald Trump has been in office. You know, they

(33:05):
finally looked in and said, here's our excuse.

Speaker 1 (33:08):
So you've been part of this. You've been You've worked
for many organizations. You've been part of that corporate brass. Okay,
Let's say you have a guy like that. You know
you're hemorrhaging money. But if you fire him, you might
have to give him a severance. It might cost you
even more. You're in a hole. You don't want to
keep digging. Are you watching for moments like this a cause?

Speaker 10 (33:25):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (33:26):
Okay?

Speaker 1 (33:27):
And I think that this isn't This isn't a heavy
handed administration. This is some concern about public interest, and
I think maybe ABC died dove on that as having caused.

Speaker 2 (33:36):
Things just built fifteen million. Era just tells, yeah, MEGANIM
fifteen million dollars a year for five people to watch
them in late night shows like Kimmel's, like Colberts are dying.
That's correct because they've told half of America, we don't
care what you think anymore.

Speaker 1 (33:53):
How funny is it that Colbert still gets to stay
until May and he's done.

Speaker 2 (33:58):
We don't know they're they're basically saying they pulled the show.
But is it permanent temporary? What are they going to do?

Speaker 1 (34:03):
They said indefinitely?

Speaker 2 (34:04):
Oh really, I see I didn't see that in the headline.

Speaker 1 (34:06):
Yeah, so you know there's so there's that. I I
think that that that that what I just heard from
the SEC chairman sounds but again, I'm not, I'm not you.
I don't see it. I'm not. It's not been my career,
my whole life. But the public interest seems to be
a valid argument. He did say if they self regulate,
it's better than the FCC trying to do it. I
think what you saw with ABC uh and suspending him indefinitely.

(34:30):
That probably is a way to regulate themselves.

Speaker 2 (34:33):
Is this a free speech issue? Not at all.

Speaker 1 (34:36):
It's an economic issue.

Speaker 2 (34:37):
There a well they can make that behind it. I
think is an economic issue. But does the issue of
free speech come up as well?

Speaker 1 (34:43):
Not if it not? If there's a there's an idea
of the public interest has to be served and there
has to be a way that you're you're showing your
your bright lines on what that means. If you think
that that what you have on your hands is going
to violate that and cause you to be regulated more
close by the FCC, you'd sooner get rid of him
than have uh, maybe a more regulation coming your way. Yeah,

(35:06):
So I think it's not free speeches.

Speaker 2 (35:07):
It's not a free speech, it's business. Well, the underlying
effect is business. Well, I'll agree with it, But I
think the overall question of free we're pulling people off.
You know, they can pull us off today.

Speaker 1 (35:20):
They'd be crazy, they could. I don't think they're that crazy.

Speaker 2 (35:23):
They could do it. You just never don't. All right,
Maybe your reaction to this more reaction coming up, of
course as to what's going on. It's been a week,
of course since Charlie Kirk was assassinated down to UVU.
We'll talk about that a lot coming up right here
on the Wingman Wednesday edition of The Rotten Gregg Show
and Utah's Talk Radio one oh five nine k NRS,

(35:44):
bringing you up to speed on the story we're talking about.
Just before the top of the hour, we learned that
ABC is temporarily, at least for the foreseeable future, pulling
the plug on the Jimmy Kimmel Show because the chairman
of the FCC, which regulates all broadcast companies including this one,
concerned about if, in fact he is serving in the

(36:06):
public interests by making some misstatements about the person involved
in the shooting of Charlie Kirk. Now, they announced the
shows off the air for the foreseeable future. It's unknown
whether he will be returning to the air. Now here's
the interesting part of it, Greg. We were talking about
the money right follow the money. The announcement came after
Nextstar Media Group, which is a major operator of ABC

(36:30):
affiliated stations around the country in Utah. Channel four here
in Utah set in a statement that it strongly objects
to recent comments made by Kimmel concerning the killing of
Kirk and will replace the show with other programming in
its ABC affiliated market. So you're right. The various media
companies that carry ABC leads Next Star very concerned about this, Greg.

(36:54):
So there's the money issue there is.

Speaker 1 (36:56):
But I want to go back because I think we
got a comment from a listener that said, look, ABC
executives probably share the same exact worldview as Jimmy Kimmel.
There's no daylight between them all. They all think the same.
So it is a fall of the money exercise. However,
if you knew that you said something so matter of
fact that this is a right wing that you know

(37:18):
that they don't want to own. They want to try
and convince you it's something else, but that's who he is.
And then you find out from the county attorney and
the evidence that was proffered that what you said was
patently wrong. Wouldn't out of just self preservation, you want
to walk that back and clarify the next day?

Speaker 2 (37:34):
No? Why well I would? I would, But I think
Kimmel won't. You know why he hates Trump? He absolutely
hates Trump. He hates anything.

Speaker 1 (37:42):
Frump derangement syndrome. So it's like it's a mind vibe. Well,
then that's why you got to get rid of him,
because you got a guy with my with a mind virus.
It's it doesn't, it's not. It is. I'm sure that
they were. They needed cause, and I think that affiliate's
bailing out was a lot of cause to be.

Speaker 2 (37:58):
All right, let's go to the phones to get your
react into this. Jacob is in Cageville tonight here on
the Rod and Greg Show. Jacob, how are you? Thanks
for joining us tonight?

Speaker 10 (38:06):
Doing great. Just want to say I love the Goose call.
You got to keep that.

Speaker 1 (38:16):
That's not really where.

Speaker 2 (38:17):
I was going with the Goose you know, all right, Jacob,
what's on your mind? Man?

Speaker 10 (38:23):
Well, so something that came to mind while you were talking,
and I was thinking about this. If we're able to
get the Smith Month Act back the way it should be,
would that affect situations like this with the Kimel thing,
with this kind of disinformation?

Speaker 2 (38:36):
I I think it would from what hinder. I don't
have a complete understanding of the Act, but I think
it would. And I think isn't like Lee trying to
do something about that Act and bring it back.

Speaker 1 (38:46):
He is that's his effort.

Speaker 2 (38:48):
Yeah, it may you know, we'll dig into that and see. Yeah,
that's an interesting all right. Now, we've got a couple
of talkback lines coming in. Let's hear what they have
to say about this story tonight.

Speaker 14 (39:01):
In a very rare moment where I agree with Rod
Rod is one correct. Should the woman have cleared it
with her program director?

Speaker 4 (39:12):
Yes?

Speaker 15 (39:13):
Should she have been suspended because of her actions, absolutely not.
She should have been reprimanded, And that's as far as
it should have ever gone.

Speaker 2 (39:24):
All right, Well, we're talking about that television anchor to
Illinois who at the end of her broadcast it was
a midday.

Speaker 1 (39:31):
Like those celebrate and you thought you had me down
and you thought, ah, I got you spiked the ball on.
I said, would you suspend her? And I said, she
didn't suspend. You want to you want to boot her
out of the bill. You want to walk down of the
building with like armed guards.

Speaker 2 (39:45):
The story is a tate television.

Speaker 1 (39:48):
Anchor young on a on a touching midday.

Speaker 2 (39:53):
At the end, wanted to say something about Charlie Kirk
and because she worked for him, apparently he was her
first boss, and she was up by this. The debate
that I have was she should have cleared it with
her bosses before she said anything.

Speaker 1 (40:05):
That's all and my and and I don't think that's
an unreasonable And I understand you're a professional, is I
understand all that I wouldn't suspend her for it first.
And what I don't know is if that was that
news was coming and breaking in real time, where she's
digesting it while there, So that was two days later, Okay, well,
well then you know, I could be convinced that she

(40:28):
should have cleared it. But I don't think she should
have been suspended. I don't.

Speaker 2 (40:31):
Are you a green partially with me?

Speaker 1 (40:32):
Partially?

Speaker 2 (40:33):
Maybe talk about comment Rod and Greg.

Speaker 16 (40:39):
Hearing you to talk, all I can think about is
the Grinch, how his heart was three sizes too small. Greg,
I feel like he's the Grinch.

Speaker 1 (40:55):
Thank you? Yes, Wow, you are on Kimmel's side. You
want to you want to suspend that poor young lady.
You are you? You are? I have I am. I
thank you, caller, Thank you for you know, clarifying that
I'm not crazy here, very callous, very very And I
can't believe that, while we're seeing justice served cold, that

(41:19):
you think that that this is a free speech issue
and that kim shouldn't have been booted.

Speaker 2 (41:22):
There are there are some free speech issues there.

Speaker 1 (41:25):
The FCC chairman said, in the public interest, they can
either govern themselves or we're going to have some work
to do. And you're saying that in a non news
environment that that public interest does not does not does
not apply.

Speaker 2 (41:39):
I think it's a walk on eggs shells type of
thing right now.

Speaker 1 (41:42):
Does not walk on egg shells, don't lie, don't lie,
and be a human being. That doesn't sound like eggs shells.
That sounds like normal. Course. That should be the state
of play in America.

Speaker 2 (41:51):
That really should all right, more coming up on the
Roda greg Show and Utah Talk Radio. What all five
dying canters?

Speaker 1 (41:57):
So the guards outside the studio, you're you gonna escort
me out of this building? Now, I wouldn't it. If
there's a guard out, we would you? You are like,
I don't even know who you are anymore. I don't.
I think the temperature in the studio went down ten
degrees since the show started.

Speaker 4 (42:11):
I don't.

Speaker 1 (42:12):
I don't even know.

Speaker 2 (42:12):
I actually have a few talk about listeners. I'll agree
with you, we'll get them, but I want to let
you hear you know, if you're just joining us. Now
people are saying, Okay, what are you guys talking about.
It was announced just before five o'clock tonight that ABC
was pulling jim and Jimmy Kimmel's show.

Speaker 1 (42:29):
And you're outraged. You're totally upset.

Speaker 2 (42:32):
I love Jimmy ki Is, I'm concerned about free speech. Okay,
Now they did that after the chairman of the FCC
today said this on the Bobby Jones podcast. Here's what
he said about the Kimmel show.

Speaker 13 (42:45):
You know, when you look at the conduct that has
taken place by Jimmy Kimmel, it appears to be some
of the sickest conduct possible. Uh. As you've indicated, there
are you know, news here for the FCC. So there
are some ways in which I need to be a
little bit careful because we could be called ultimately to

(43:06):
be a judge on some of these claims that come up.
But I don't think this is an isolated incident. I mean,
you may have a license granted by us at the FCC,
and that comes with it an obligation to operate in
the public interest, and we can get into some ways
that we've been trying to reinvigorate the public interest and
some changes that we've seen. But Frankly, when you see
stuff like this, I mean, look, we can do this

(43:27):
the easy way or the hard way. These companies can
find ways to change conduct, to take action Frankly on
Kimmel or you know, there's gonna be additional work for
the FCC ahead.

Speaker 2 (43:39):
Now, ABC says, ABC Disney says they're pulling the show
for the foreseeable future. I'm not sure Greg, if he's
ever coming back, if you want my opinion, but here's
what you said earlier this week following the assassination of
Charlie Kirk.

Speaker 17 (43:53):
We hit some new lows over the weekend with the
Magga Gang desperately trying to characterize this kid who murdered
Charlie Kirk is anything other than one of them and
everything they can to score political points from it.

Speaker 2 (44:06):
Definitely trying to. I don't remember any Republican out there
a MAGA supporter saying they're desperately trying to associate him
with the left.

Speaker 1 (44:14):
He is from the left.

Speaker 2 (44:16):
Vote you would have to be.

Speaker 1 (44:17):
I don't know how in the world if you're at
a political if you're at a Charlie Kirk event and
he is assassinated and we don't know what the motive is. Well,
let's just take a wild guess and say it's political.
And if it's political, it would be that you don't
like what Charlie Kirk is saying. If you don't like
what Charlie Kirk's saying, then you don't like what Donald
Trump is saying. What seventy seven million voters that voted
for Donald Trump believe in because it is very attracts, very,

(44:41):
very closely. So if you don't like Charlie Kirk, this
is not coming from the right. He did not have this.
I mean, we have debates amongst the right, but to
shoot and assassinate him at a political event. I don't
think Charlie Kirk cut off anyone in traffic. I don't
think he owes the mob money. I think it's political.
And if it's political, it's about the things he espouses
or debates. And if it's that it's coming from the left.

Speaker 2 (45:02):
Well it's not hard. Well, let's hear what a few
of our listeners want to say on our talkback line as.

Speaker 18 (45:08):
Jimmy Kimmel makes a claim on his program that ends
up becoming blatantly and absolutely false and fails to clarify
the record later in the same venue. Then that has
beens information which is parallel to propaganda.

Speaker 2 (45:24):
And I could be wrong.

Speaker 18 (45:26):
But I believe that President signed an executive order to
repeal Obama's Government Propaganda Act.

Speaker 2 (45:34):
Yeah, interesting point.

Speaker 1 (45:36):
How do you like me now?

Speaker 8 (45:37):
Huh?

Speaker 1 (45:37):
My listeners are all they're all team Hughes on this
one because we all see it the same.

Speaker 2 (45:43):
Yeah. Here's another comment on the talkback line.

Speaker 8 (45:46):
Hello, ronin Greg.

Speaker 14 (45:47):
This is Steve from Laighton, Utah, and this one is
poor Rod.

Speaker 1 (45:53):
You all what I mean.

Speaker 2 (45:57):
They're now singing on our talkback lines, right.

Speaker 1 (46:00):
Kind of grinchy. I had that kind of feeling.

Speaker 2 (46:02):
All right, more your comments, more your calls coming up.
It is the Wingman Wednesday edition of the Rod and
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Speaker 1 (46:24):
With some trepidation, I will say I'm goose, but I
do not say that with any kind of goose call
that's supposed to attach. I'm talking the you know, the
nineteen eighty five, Yeah, top go eighty five, nineteeny five,
may long long eighty five. I remember it very well.

Speaker 2 (46:39):
I know you do, all right, if you're just joining
us now, maybe just stepping into the car on your
way home tonight, haven't heard the news. Just about an
hour ago, ABC announced they're pulling the plug on the
Jimmy Kimmel Show for the foreseeable future. Now, this comes
after the chairman of the FCC that regulates all broadcasting
radio and television indicated they were going to take a
look into Kimmel for some of his comments concerning the

(47:03):
assassination of Charlie Kirk. And we've been debating this. I
think I worry it's a free speech issue, but I
also understand, and Greg and I both agree on this one,
is that a lot of it has to deal with
following the money. And you've got network affiliates around the country,
including the company that owns Channel four here in Utah,
voicing their concerns about the Jimmy Kimmel Show to the network. Well,

(47:26):
it's also a matter of money. But let's get to
the phones and get some of your thoughts on this. No,
let's go to our talk back line. Let's hear this comment.

Speaker 19 (47:35):
Yeah, what this whole Jimmy Kimmel thing in Disney ABC
getting rid of them? Do you think they actually told
them that they're getting rid of them? Because it was
the SEC who said that they had to And they're
trying to uncover for themselves because they want their base
to keep believing that they believe the same thing they want.

(47:56):
And it wasn't a money issue.

Speaker 2 (48:00):
Oh yeah, I think it was a money issue.

Speaker 1 (48:02):
Here's here's what I think. The question is great and
this and this is the answer for me. I think
that they dove all over what the FCC chairman said
and when he said, you know, we have to there's
a public interest out here and you can't just flat
out why and mislead people, and there has to be
we have to look at this public interest and there's
and he says in this quote, there's an easy way,
in a hard way. They can regulate themselves, or we

(48:24):
can we can do more work, and we can do that.
I think that they've been wanting to get rid of
him without a severance and without a package deal and
you know, some golden parachute. Uh and when this was said,
they could dive on it, get rid of them for
cause and point to the FCC's statements for as as
the reason why. But then you add to that the
fact that when FCC is saying this in the same

(48:47):
universe at the same time, when Jimmy Kimmel does not
walk back things that everybody's talking about that he's been
proven to said wrong and inaccurately and given a chance
to walk it back and he doesn't, that that's when
you start to see some of these affiliates and next
our know, somebody saying, you know what, we're not going
to cover that show because we're aware of the of
the recoil going on, because you know what, the real

(49:07):
problem in all this is murder. Murder's wrong issue. Murder issue.
Nobody can get their head around that you condemn murder
and that that's the sentence, that's where the sentence ends,
and you don't qualify it, and you don't point who's
who thinks that's their fault. Murder is the problem here,
and these people cannot admit that that this is a

(49:28):
heinous act, that this was wrong in every way shape
and form. No, you've got people saying there's a romantic
story involvement here. You have people saying it's the other side,
the Republicans that are secretly behind this. No, here's the
real problem. It's not who's the planet. It's murder, period,
and they can't. There is a large segment, a sad
segment of this of this country who don't want to

(49:50):
acknowledge that this was an evil, heinous act.

Speaker 2 (49:53):
Period by someone from their side.

Speaker 1 (49:55):
With no qualification with It doesn't matter what your political
opinion is or what party affiliation it is. It is sick,
it is wrong, and they won't say it, Roddy, they won't.
That's the that's the problem. Murder is the problem.

Speaker 2 (50:07):
We've got a lot more to talk about and we
will do that with you as you work your way
home with Utah's Talk Radio one oh five nine p
r s.

Speaker 1 (50:17):
It's Wingman Wednesday. I am Goose. You're not Maverick today.
I don't know who you are. I'd like my friend
Rod back. You have just been pro Kimmel.

Speaker 2 (50:25):
You know I have not Kimmel. It's just been I
am pro very speech. I worry about it a little bit.

Speaker 1 (50:31):
It's been a little surprising.

Speaker 2 (50:34):
You know, Kimmel has been you know, basically put on
the back burner for the I don't know if he
ever comes back. But there was another resignation today that's interesting.
Jerry Greenfield. Do you know who? Jerry Greenfield is, co
founder of Ben and Jerry's ice Cream.

Speaker 1 (50:48):
Oh, I did hear this?

Speaker 2 (50:49):
Did you hear this story? Apparently he is stepping down.
Apparently they were bought out by Unilever and there's been
some changes, but they were unily very upset with their
stand on on Palestine and on the you know what's
going on with Gaza, and they were supportive of the Palestinians,
very critical of the Israelis and had conflicts we Unilever

(51:09):
and basically Jerry of Ben and Jerry's ice Cream said Nope,
I'm not going to be part of the country company anymore.

Speaker 1 (51:15):
Yeah. I think you want to get more. I think
you want to get He wanted to make Ben and
Jerry's ice cream more political. I think you want to
get more. You want to make more statements. And I
think Unilever's like, I think we want to sell ice cream.
I think that's kind of our cay.

Speaker 2 (51:26):
Yeah, that's all we need to do is sell ice
cream place.

Speaker 1 (51:29):
That's what he wanted to do, and Jerry didn't want
to do that. Hey, by the way, Megan McCain, who
used to be on the view on the ABC uh
posted and I think she would know if she worked
for that network for some some period of times. She said,
I've said it before, and I'll say it again. I've
never I've been warning everyone for years how much ABC
hates Republicans one way or another. It was always going

(51:51):
to inevitably have ramifications, and.

Speaker 2 (51:54):
It's caught up to him. All right, let's talk about
what's going on in New York City. We haven't paid
a lot of attention to the mayoral election there you've
got the socialistman, Donnie. But in other cities around the country,
you name it. You've got Los Angeles, you've got Chicago,
most likely in Seattle. And what is the attraction of
the youth to socialism? Well, joining us on our Newsmaker

(52:15):
line to talk about that right now is doctor Eric Patterson.
He is President CEO of Victims of Communism Memorial Foundation.
Doctor Patterson, thanks for joining the rod In great show.
Welcome to the show.

Speaker 9 (52:27):
Thank you. Guys, it's great to be with you today.

Speaker 2 (52:29):
What is going on with the youth of this country
and their support of the socialist candidates? What do you
think is going on, doctor Patterson.

Speaker 9 (52:37):
A recent poul showed that as much as sixty two
percent of young adults and teenagers have a good feeling
about socialism. And on the one hand, it's kind of
a pop Marxism. It's shallow, it's exciting, it's novel, it's
kind of against the establishment. But there's a lot of
rabble rousing, a lot of finger pointing, a lot of shaming,

(53:00):
and you know what it comes down to. In a
large part, they're seduced by freebies. They're told that equality,
that there's a way to equality, and if you just
trust the big government, well it'll take every part of
your life.

Speaker 1 (53:12):
So, doctor Parrison, it it's very interesting that this topic
is that he's that this candidate is doing so well,
because I've been just going over all this Charlie Kirk
videos and his last interview with I think it was
Tucker Carlson. Charlie Kirk's been on all these campuses and
he sounded what he said he thought that the draw
to mom Donnie is, and why you have young people

(53:34):
considering socialism is that they feel like they're being left
out of the free market. That the average age of
owning a home has been moved outward a decade, that
the amount of your income three times your income before
to buy a home, it's seven times your income. Now,
are we worried that maybe there's this almost, you know,
anything's better than what we have right now attitude, Maybe

(53:55):
not even an embraceive socialism, but maybe the free market's
not as freeman it's just crony capitalism. Is there any
do you see anything like that? And what you're looking
at in terms of young people and what's drawing their attention.

Speaker 9 (54:08):
I think there's two things there, and the one is
on that economic side. There's an element being seduced by
a lot of freebies. That campaign is calling for state
run grocery stores, it is calling for free public transportation
for everyone. It's an advocate of free education, not just
K to twelve, but beyond that, free college, et cetera,

(54:30):
et cetera, et cetera, Free baby baskets for families as
soon as they have a baby. So there's this seduction
of oh yeah, I mean some people have Mercedes, some
people have all this stuff. We should just be able
to have free access to everything, no cost, instant gratification.
And that really is kind of an immature way of

(54:52):
thinking about things, but one that can be very compelling.

Speaker 4 (54:56):
If you add to that.

Speaker 9 (54:58):
You add to that that many many of our young people,
starting in grade school all the way through, they have
been taught a revisionist form of US history that says,
it's always a story of oppressor and oppressed. The old
American dream never really existed. There's a small group that's
dominated everybody, and you know, pick your flavor. You're oppressed too.

(55:20):
Let's stand up against the man, Let's stand up against
the machine. You know, that's a very dangerous rewriting and
a falsehood about the American dream men.

Speaker 2 (55:30):
Donny has been called the smiling Socialist, and the indications
are that he may in fact win the election in
the Europe. How much of what he's been talking about,
you know, the free bus service, you know, public grocery stores,
all that you just listed, how much do you think
you'll actually be able to get away with doctor Patterson?

Speaker 9 (55:47):
Well, he's if he's elected, and I do think that
there's some question because I think at the end of
the day, the people who go to the polls usually
wake up a little bit. But you have to find
the revenue in somewhere. This is a case just like
AOC's Green Deal, she admitted. I mean, you just basically

(56:07):
have to first print the money, in other words, make
up a bunch of false money, and also have government
create jobs that didn't exist. Just put people create things
that do not exist and that do not have worth
or value to try to make something like this happen.
But the times that we've seen these kind of massive
spending government intervention types of programs, they always fail. The

(56:29):
problem is we don't want New Yorker stuff to go
through that, So let's hope that voters don't make that mistake.

Speaker 1 (56:35):
So there's an interesting poll right now. I think that
some are saying that by ages of maybe the Generation
Z eighteen to twenty four, eighteen to twenty nine are
actually identifying more right of center or supporting Trump in
numbers or polling statistics, that they've not seen young people
gravitating to the Republican or the conservative candidate or philosophies.
But you're seeing that right now with Generation Z or

(56:57):
at least larger than you've seen in the past. Do
we save are you how do we make sure that
the youth, that our youth vote doesn't gravitate to socialism
and actually gravitates to free markets, free minds, self determination.
How do we how do we get there? Do you think?

Speaker 9 (57:12):
Now? The first thing is it starts at home, and
the second thing is and then and then it's in
our our education systems. So first, you mentioned that word
crony capitalism. Yes, and I think something that's very disappointing.
There's so many families have kind of winked and said, oh,
you know, capitalism, it's okay, but it has its rough edges,
or you know, it's it's a bad system, but it's

(57:33):
the best of the bad systems. You know, none of
that is true. It's in the free market system undergordered
by ordered liberty, that we have innovation, we have investment,
we have charitable giving, we have we have a free
society that is rooted in a free market. Those choices
are virtuous choices. We need to be teaching that from
a very very young age. And then we need to

(57:56):
tie to that, and that starts at home. And second,
in our schools We need to be holding teachers accountable
and providing them with the resources to teach an accurate
American history, warts and all. But about this great trajectory
of freedom and explain, you know, how do we get
people from Benjamin Franklin to Elon Musk and everybody in between.

(58:18):
Where does innovation come from. It comes in a free society,
politically free society, and an economically free society.

Speaker 4 (58:25):
And we have to attack the types.

Speaker 9 (58:28):
Of Marxist education that says it's all a story of
white privilege, it's all a story of Christian privilege, it's
all a story of racism. It's a pressed versus oppressed,
and we have to deconstruct the system and then rebuild
it along communist lines. We have to attack and root
that out.

Speaker 2 (58:46):
Hopefully the New York voters will wake up here in
a month or two. Dr Patterson, thank you very much
for joining us tonight.

Speaker 9 (58:53):
This is my pleasure.

Speaker 1 (58:54):
Well, thank you bo.

Speaker 2 (58:55):
On our news micro line, Doctor Eric Patterson talking about
a new poll and that poll shows what is it
about sixty percent? I think it is just calling up
the numbers right now. Yeah, sixty two percent of young
Americans are falling for pop Marxism. That's scary. More coming up,
you agree, More coming up on the Rod and Greg
Show and Utah's Talk Radio one oh five nine canness.

Speaker 1 (59:16):
Greg Hughes otherwise known as Goose Goose Hughes Goose Goose Hughes,
but not with eras Goose calls. I don't need those
Goose calls anymore, East calls.

Speaker 2 (59:27):
And I'm Roders. Well, we learned today that ABC is
calling out Jimmy Kimmel kind of saying see you later
for at least for the foreseeable future. Right now, you've
got you've got other other other people on the right,
Greg really calling out the media in their coverage of
this Charlie Kirk assassination, which happened to we could go today.

(59:49):
Listen to this exchange last night. This was on CNN,
and you've got Caitlin Collins, who we all know is
not a friend of the administration, trying to go head
to head with Ted Cruz. Good luck on that one. Baby.
Here's basically what happened.

Speaker 6 (01:00:03):
And we don't have a motive yet, we don't know yet.
We're waiting. Obviously, we've heard what the governors had to
say with the cou.

Speaker 20 (01:00:09):
We don't have a motive yet.

Speaker 6 (01:00:10):
We know we don't have a motive yet, what's happening
with really position?

Speaker 20 (01:00:15):
If he's just happened to fire the gun and celebration,
you can't tell the motives.

Speaker 6 (01:00:20):
Senator, that's not what I said. And I said law
enforcement hasn't laid out a direct motive. They laid out
a lot of evidence here of these messages and.

Speaker 8 (01:00:28):
What they said.

Speaker 2 (01:00:32):
Hated Charlie Kirk.

Speaker 6 (01:00:35):
Pardon, Senator, with all due respect, you know exactly what
I'm saying. I'm not arguing with you politically. I'm saying
that law enforcement has not put a specific motive. You
know that there's a difference of what they're putting in
a legal they have. That's what you're talking about, and
you're not even we're not even arguing about the facts here.

Speaker 20 (01:00:52):
That is false, Senator, facts, Hold on, say let me
answer your statement, because what you said is fast, Senator.

Speaker 6 (01:00:59):
With respec that law enforced that I did not say,
and I want to get back to we just laid
out the fact that Attorney General, that is objectively false.

Speaker 2 (01:01:16):
What what what needs to be said, Greg for the
media to be convinced that there is a motive behind this. Yeah,
well there's nothing.

Speaker 1 (01:01:26):
You can say nothing to them. They'll never admit it
because you don't have to say anything. You just have
to look at the person that would be harmed. It
would be a Democrat, and there would be mass assumptions
and motives attached to the person that did the harm
by virtue of the person being attacked being a Democrat.
They would say, this is a radical right wing extremist,
white supremacist, bigoted, misogynistic, you know, fascist, Nazi, on and on.

(01:01:50):
They there there is no bar to with a broad brush,
take seventy seven million voters at voter for Trump in
half of this country and make us all fascists. They
would just do it right away. But that you have
the law enforcement, you have the prosecution, you have what's
written on the bullets cases themselves. That all point and
it's Charlie Kirk. They shot out, what to you again?

Speaker 2 (01:02:11):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:02:11):
What would it be if not political? This assassination? And
what would those politics be if not right of center?
I don't know what the media thinks that they have
some mystery they can't solve. They know what this is,
they can't admit it because they don't want to condemn
what's happened.

Speaker 2 (01:02:26):
They don't want to admit it. They don't want to
admit that it was someone on the left who was radicalized,
yes by the left, to admit that he did it
because he hated Charlie Kirk. And it's that.

Speaker 1 (01:02:37):
Easy if you notice that they've glossed over everything they've
said to radicalize someone like this, this monster. But if
you complain about it, then you're the one that's fomenting
hate because we notice because we talk about it. See,
that's the hate, that's the hate. Now, actually you're the
demons that have made that are turning these kids into
monsters themselves by saying everything that you're saying that you
don't want to have an open discussion about issues, You

(01:02:59):
just want to call everyone on fascist in a nazi.

Speaker 2 (01:03:01):
Now there's more, there's more. Remember Matt Gutman.

Speaker 1 (01:03:06):
Oh yeah, romance himself. Yeah, see all the romance and
all the star Cross lover. Oh storylines of this, of
this situation.

Speaker 2 (01:03:16):
It is a love story between Tyler Robinson and his
male lover. And he was just trying to protect you.
It's a love message. Well that's what Matt Gudman said. Now,
John Kennedy, who we all know and love from the
state of Louisiana, was on Laura Ingram last night and
asked to come in on this now. First of all,
you hear what Gutman had to say, or a portion

(01:03:37):
of what he had to say, and then John Kennedy's response.

Speaker 21 (01:03:40):
It was very touching in a way that I think
many of us didn't expect, a very intimate portrait into
this relationship between the suspect's roommate and the suspect himself,
with him repeatedly calling his roommate, who was transitioning, calling
him my love, and I want to protect you, my love.

Speaker 2 (01:03:57):
Senator Kennedy, watch a gang. Some people need a shock collar.
Some people just need a shot collar.

Speaker 1 (01:04:11):
John Kennedy, Yeah, No, I I I I think now
he's tried to apologize if you've misunderstood his words. No,
I understood your words perfectly. What I haven't understood is
I've not heard the romantic duality of John Wilkes Booth,
the assassin of you know, Abraham Lincoln. I haven't heard
that story. He was a theater guy. I'm sure he

(01:04:32):
had some I'm sure there's some love story we've missed
John You know Lee Harvey Oswald. Where's the love story there? Yeah,
we don't talk about it because it has nothing to
do with the heinous act that's taking place. Unless you're
this Gutman kid or your ABC or whatever news outlet.

Speaker 2 (01:04:50):
He is their national correspondent, if you know what the
term national correspondent means for a network. He gets the
big national stories. All right, So he's got this. So
he's a mired within the ABC rank and file. Okay,
but here's what he said posting on X Today. Gutman said, yesterday,
I tried to underscore the jarring contrast between this cold

(01:05:11):
blooded assassination of Charlie Kirk, a man who dedicated his
life to public dialogue, and the personal, disturbing text read
aloud by the Utah attorney. I deeply regret that my
words did not make that clear.

Speaker 1 (01:05:26):
Because your words didn't say that. Your words said it
was a duality, and there's this beautiful story behind this
act and on and on story. It's just yeah, you
can try to. You can try to. That's a non apology.
Apologies what that was that tried and failed?

Speaker 4 (01:05:41):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:05:42):
I yeah, it's just but get I'm telling you that
my new job, My new job as of last week,
is this. I'm calling out these demons. I'm calling out
these these people that crawled out of rocks and somehow
thought and they're way more of them than I ever realized,
and they're not all young that somehow they could explain
away and I celebrate murder, or they would explain it

(01:06:04):
and try to draw some moral equivalency to anything. It's
it's demonic what they're doing. And I'm calling it it
because that's what it is. And anytime I hear anyone
try to entertain that what this guy did is anything
but demonic. And if you want to call him anything
else but a monster, then I'm gonna call it out.
I have no there's I have no patience for it.

(01:06:24):
I'm gonna I want everyone to have this diversity of
thought in universities. I want this debate to go on.
I'm going to provide the cover to get these monsters
out of the way, because killing people because of hate
and what they think is insane.

Speaker 2 (01:06:37):
It's that needs to be said. All right, More coming
up on the Rod and Greg Show.

Speaker 1 (01:06:41):
So a lot going on. There's a lot happening.

Speaker 2 (01:06:44):
There are you and I have been kind of looking
at the story over the last couple of days. But
there's a group. There's a story in the New York
Post tonight about the founder of this group here in Utah,
based in Utah. Is that is that right, Greg? I
think they're based here.

Speaker 1 (01:06:57):
In h Yes, it's a Utah organization armed years.

Speaker 2 (01:07:00):
Yes, and the group is being investigated in a relationship
to the Charlie Kirk shooting. Is and the the the
leader of this group is a radical trans leftist who
advocated violence. We had this woman on the show years
ago talking about gun issues.

Speaker 1 (01:07:16):
I'm going to clarify. I don't know if you have
a you got a mouse in your pocket?

Speaker 21 (01:07:20):
What do you mean?

Speaker 1 (01:07:20):
We I never introduced I never interviewed this person generally, Okay,
I know it was this is this is the You
and E Ray owned this one. You guys, she was
your favorite he whatever, it was, your favorite interviewer. You
just had. It was like, You're like, you picked a terrorist,

(01:07:41):
trans trans terrorist to have on the program.

Speaker 2 (01:07:44):
But her name is coming up. We're on to dig
into this a little bit more tomorrow. We are because
you're saying this group or there's there's another connection here.
It's called let me I'm just looking scanning through the
story right now, it's called where'd this go? Oh, give
me a Utah Global Diplomacy. Yes, a nonprofit group.

Speaker 1 (01:08:05):
Now they have wiped her name and her existence from
their website, but this individual and the groups that she
has led and been a part of have received money
from the federal government, NGOs, stuff like that, even from
the UN and then finally even from our state legislature.
I've been tracking this. I've been getting all the information
because we're in the throes of this Charlie Kirk situation,

(01:08:28):
and I would if the investigation began to tether to
this organization where it was becoming known through the at
least what they were disclosing that they were involved, I
was well prepared to begin to talk about the money
flow and how this is going on. This is a
top This is an issue that I had believed we
would be delving into on the Run Greg Show at
some point, if not this week, the next because there's

(01:08:51):
some things happening in the state of Utah that again
we're all waking up. I'm waking up to some things
going on that's been under the radar that we have
got to see end it cannot continue.

Speaker 2 (01:09:02):
Well, Data Republican who we've had on the show who
did it, did excellent work when Elon Musk was going
after the federal government. She's onto this and she is
reporting that this Utah Global Diplomacy's revenue shared by noted
online data shows what income of four hundred and forty
five thousand to seven hundred and twenty seven thousand dollars

(01:09:25):
in grant money. And you're saying she gets from she.

Speaker 1 (01:09:28):
Gets from the state of Utah. Correct, She's received. There's
been requests for appropriations for this organization, the diploma Utah
Diplomacy whatever it was, that.

Speaker 2 (01:09:37):
Utah Diplomas Global.

Speaker 1 (01:09:39):
Diplomalobal Diplomacy, and they have received and they've got those
grants through our Governor's Office of Economic Opportunity. And look,
you know they didn't come advertising that they're a leftist
group here to commit violence. That's not how they got
anyone's attention. But that is what they're getting, and that's
the consideration in the stage they've had. She actually this

(01:09:59):
scary human being whatever man woman. Uh. Even during the
bill that uh Kara Berkland ran to uh banned boys
from girls locker rooms he spoke at it called the
represented by her first name, which was being way too personal,
saying Kara, you're not getting away with this, and and
made and made the statement in the committee, if you
come after us, you will lose, and left it at that.

(01:10:22):
So in hindsight, you look at that kind of talk,
and then you see how much funding they're getting, and
and even the imagery like you know, the you, the
you of you hates guns. They always tell you that
they got they got these, they got the this this
transud militant group, they have them holding the gun and
and and all those you know, all these all this
ammo around. It's it's it's worth it's worth talking about.

Speaker 2 (01:10:45):
I gotta tell you, do we know a connection between
this group and Tyler Robinson?

Speaker 1 (01:10:49):
We don't.

Speaker 2 (01:10:49):
That's why look at it.

Speaker 1 (01:10:51):
That's why they are looking at it, because there's there's
there's probably some uh you know, overlap, but there hasn't
been anything that I've seen disclosed so that I haven't
brought this part up yet, but this because of this
investigation and data Republican, there's a lot to talk about here.
I just don't know how directly it has to do
with Tyler Robinson.

Speaker 2 (01:11:11):
Cash Pentel said yesterday, they're looking at a lot of people,
and I would imagine this group maybe one of them.

Speaker 1 (01:11:15):
Oh, it has to be. If you look at the
flow of funds, it's disturbing how much they've been able
to hoodwink out of at least the state of Utah,
but also the federal government.

Speaker 2 (01:11:23):
All Right, we've got a lot more to get to.
In our final segment of the Rod and Greg Show
right here on Utah's Talk Radio one oh five nine
k nrs, do.

Speaker 1 (01:11:30):
You feel like you've kind of been brought back to
the fold by our our listening audience, by by you know,
the comments of the Grinch and things like that. Are
you are you still pro Kimmel?

Speaker 2 (01:11:40):
I never left the fold?

Speaker 1 (01:11:43):
You you started the show?

Speaker 2 (01:11:45):
What did what did totally.

Speaker 1 (01:11:46):
Pro Jimmy Kimmel?

Speaker 2 (01:11:47):
What did Charlie Kirk tell all of us be afraid
to express our opinion? Yes, okay, so I expressed my opinion.
That's what I did today.

Speaker 1 (01:11:57):
I know, but it was pro Kimmel. It was very was.

Speaker 2 (01:12:00):
Very You're you're you're putting the two together, just you know,
you're putting the two together.

Speaker 1 (01:12:06):
He is burning a Candle in this in the station
for Jimmy Kimmel.

Speaker 2 (01:12:09):
It's just so awkward. The post headline, New York Post
headline a.

Speaker 1 (01:12:13):
B C Y. Yeah, Well, when you lie and then
you have a chance to not lie, it looks like,
you know, people that said, people that stations don't want
to have to carry your show anymore. There's a financial
consequence that isn't there.

Speaker 2 (01:12:26):
They're sure, you know, everyone since since the tragic events
of last week, week ago today, as a matter of fact,
people have been trying and we've talked about this. What
was the connection that Charlie Kirk had with young people
around the country as he went on these college campuses. Well,
Mark Halpern, longtime analyst, longtime reporter, basically said last night

(01:12:49):
on a program or podcast he said, if Charlie Kirk
had been a Democrat and done what he did in
the service of Obama, he would have been celebrated a
little bit more of what Mark Helpern said about Charlie
Kirk today.

Speaker 22 (01:13:01):
That's what's happened here. I believe is that Charlie's life,
Charlie's biography is so resonant with folks because of the
strands that it represents. For decades, conservatives in this country
have felt aggrieved, alienated, shut out from so much of
what is sometimes called the mainstream because liberal institutions, the media, universities,

(01:13:27):
big corporations, in many cases, Hollywood News, and so many
of the big institutions have not just alienated people on
the right, but often hurt them. Kept them from job advancement,
kept them from having rewarded times in college, kept them
from getting fair media coverage if they were in politics.
Charlie represented so many of the themes, so many of

(01:13:48):
the specifics that people in MAGA have reacted against, and
his death is murder has made them feel like one
of their champions, one of their great success stories, was
eliminated as a symbolic pushing back.

Speaker 2 (01:14:04):
I think Mark Helpern is spot on on that one.
He is, and he basically pointed out I think Greg
since I want to say the late sixties, conservatives have
been pushed back in this country, have been shunned as
the liberals.

Speaker 1 (01:14:17):
Have taken, you know, and I have.

Speaker 2 (01:14:18):
I think it's been going on since the Vietnam War
high ed.

Speaker 1 (01:14:22):
You know, whether it's the news meet, it's the news networks,
whether it's the media, the music, None of it was
ever an equal playing field for conservatives. But there's a
difference between that and ignoring or or and then saying
that if you don't have share our worldview, there isn't
another opinion. You're just a fascist, You're just a Nazi.

(01:14:43):
The fact that that Nazis and Hitler have been so
loosely thrown around the way they have towards half of America,
knowing the evil that that Nazism and Hitler was, it
is so irresponsible. And that's I'm actually quoting John Fetterman
when I say that, if John Fetterman can figure that out,
I don't know how. All these these demons aren't embarrassed
to say it out loud, but they're not. They give

(01:15:05):
no room for there to be any other opinion. If
you have it, then you suffer from moral failings. And
uh and and I think it's just gone over the top.

Speaker 2 (01:15:13):
One other side note, on a much lighter note. You
know we call this wingman Wednesday. Do you know what
Wednesday also is for a very popular hot dog chain,
what Wednesday?

Speaker 1 (01:15:23):
Well, I don't like that name.

Speaker 2 (01:15:24):
I saw that and said, oh, wiener Wednesday. Their copy cattiness.

Speaker 1 (01:15:30):
Well kind of, but not really.

Speaker 2 (01:15:32):
We're our name's cool Wingman Wednesday.

Speaker 1 (01:15:34):
That's cool, that's cool.

Speaker 2 (01:15:35):
How would you like to wear a T shirt Welcome
to Wiener Wednesday.

Speaker 1 (01:15:38):
I wouldn't. I don't even like the goose calls that
we started.

Speaker 2 (01:15:43):
It's like, I'm going to talk to you Ray every
time you come on or on.

Speaker 1 (01:15:48):
That squawk have that squawking going on? No, we missed
a point.

Speaker 2 (01:15:53):
Missed the point in the background. Just a reminder of
coordinator coming up on Sunday. Of course, the memorial service
for Charlie Kirk down there in Glendale, Arizona, inside that
massive football stadium, and I bet they fill that thing
up or come pretty darn close to it.

Speaker 1 (01:16:07):
I think so, yeah, will it's a I think the
president I is President the United States, Donald Trump's gonna speak.
You're gonna see I think JD. Vans. There's a lot.
I wonder if some will be by video, but there
the list of dignitaries those are speaking is lengthy.

Speaker 2 (01:16:21):
We'll provide live coverage to you. That's coming Sunday at
noon right here on Utah's Talk Radio one O five
nine can arrest.

Speaker 10 (01:16:28):
All right?

Speaker 2 (01:16:29):
That does it for us, tonight as we see each
and every night, head up, shoulders back. May God bless
you and your family and this great country of ours.
Thanks for joining us. We're back tomorrow with for Have
a good evening.

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