The Rod and Greg Show: Kirks Assassination sparks Voter Registrations; Homeless Project update; Kirk Death vs Floyd Aftermath

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
I'm Rod Arquet.

Speaker 2 (00:01):
I'm sitting in Greg Hughes in the Southern Command Post
here in Washington County. I like to call it liberty Land.
A bunch of patriots down here holding the fort. Everything
looks good, Rod, Ladies and gentlemen. I can proudly report
that Washington County, southern part of the state, there's patriots
down here.

Speaker 3 (00:20):
They love this country, they love the Lord. So we're
all good.

Speaker 1 (00:24):
We're all good, and you're down with the sheriff, so
you feel protected. No one's going to come out, man.

Speaker 4 (00:28):
I do.

Speaker 3 (00:30):
Yeah, And they got a little swagger to them.

Speaker 2 (00:31):
I had a little bit of a you know, a
law enforcement incident with the tragedy that happened at UVU.

Speaker 3 (00:36):
But there's everybody that I've been talking to.

Speaker 2 (00:39):
It's a lot of people that worked a lot of
days with very little sleep to see the right thing done.

Speaker 3 (00:44):
So it's been fun to talk to them.

Speaker 2 (00:45):
Not fun, but it's been interesting to hear some of
the inside story and the pace, Rod, that they took
to try and find this person as fast as they could. Really,
I'm not exaggerating when I say there was very little
sleep involved for a number of days with the kind
of intel and work they were doing it. It's been
humbling to hear these public servants. And remember, folks, these

(01:08):
are elected county sheriffs. You elect your sheriff. It's not
someone hired by a mayor or a city council that
they answer to. They answer the people, and it gives
them a bit of a different perspective, I think, in
the jobs that they hold in the in the you know,
protect and serving. And so it's been it's been nice
to reconnect with our county sheriffs.

Speaker 3 (01:26):
It's been it's been a good few days.

Speaker 5 (01:27):
You know.

Speaker 1 (01:28):
I was reading over the weekend, Erica Kirk gave an
interview and did a story with The New York Times,
and she she talked about Greg and this and this
involved a friend of ours, Utah County Sheriff, Mike Smith.
But she wasn't in Utah when Charlie was shot and killed.
She was down in Arizona, but immediately jumped on a
plane and started heading towards Utah, and while she was

(01:48):
in the air, her husband died. When she arrived there,
the sheriff, Mike Smith came up to her and said,
we've got your husband. Would you like to see the body.
I wouldn't, you know. I think he kind of said,
I probably wouldn't do it because it's pretty grotesque from
the wounds. But she said no, She insisted on doing that,
and he took her in there and showed her the
body of her of her fallen husband. What a tough

(02:10):
job that must have been for Mike Smith. And he's
such a good guy, but to have to do something
like that, Wow, amazing.

Speaker 2 (02:16):
I'm miss gonna, I'm just gonna knock him out a little.
But he never tells anything. You got to go to
his wife. His wife, she's the greatest. She supports her
husband so well. But if you want, if you want
the inside scoop Sheriff Smith doesn't really he doesn't give
you a whole lot. And I mean by emotion or
what how tough that would be. But if you go
to his sweet wife, you you hear, you hear the

(02:37):
I hate I hate to knark her out, but I
just I'm telling you he is such a strong leader.
He would never let anyone know the weight he carries
on any given day, and particularly when this happened. But
it was a lot, it was, it's it's it's been
I have tried to convey to those, even those that
I've contacts, some people that I know at tp U,
s A and others that Utah has taken this very personally.

(02:58):
This is something that's cut very deep. It's something we
never thought we'd see in our state. But I think
the reaction, I think we'll get into this in the show.
The reaction in the state, nationally, but especially here in
Utah has been one of turning to the Lord, vigils, prayer,
things like that, not violence as we've seen others do.

Speaker 1 (03:18):
And we'll be talking about that a little bit later
on in the show as well. We've got a lot
to get today, including conversation with Alan Gottlieb. Allen is
the founder and executive director of the Second Amendment Foundation.
This is a huge gun rights organization. They've got a
big convention coming up this weekend in Salt Lake City.
We'll talk about that and Joseph Grinny, the chair of
the other side of Academy and Lawy. Are they doing

(03:40):
amazing things here in Utah, Greg, as you well know,
they're going to expand their village. They got some money
and they're going to expand it. And we'll talk about
what's behind all of that. So we've got a lot
to get to today and I, as always, we invite
you to be a part of the program eight eight
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(04:03):
Just download the iHeartRadio app. Make sure you download it
and sign up for that today. Now, I want to
start off the show the couple couple stories, Greg, How
you know, I just I don't get it, Greg, I
under you know, we're all trying to figure out what's
behind Trump derangement sindrel right. I mean, I don't know
if anyone's been able to find define it other than

(04:25):
I think these people are crazy. Right, then you have
this story, yeah, okay, to take a stand against Donald Trump,
liberal pregnant women have taken to social media posting videos
of themselves downing bottles of tail and all.

Speaker 3 (04:45):
I thought it was a prank.

Speaker 2 (04:46):
I saw that story, and I thought that was somebody
being someone was trying to find an exaggeration, Like, you know,
these guys are crow so crazy.

Speaker 3 (04:53):
Do you know what they would do?

Speaker 2 (04:54):
They would literally just start downing tylen. How to prove
them wrong.

Speaker 3 (04:57):
And I thought it was a joke.

Speaker 5 (04:58):
I really did.

Speaker 2 (04:59):
I thought these were prank but it tragically sounds like
it's true. And I think there's even been a at
least one hospitalization over this type of behavior. And I
and again I can't, I think that it's Uh. We
are in strange times. I can tell you. I don't
know if any of you ladies and gentlemen have friends
that suffer from Trump derangement syndrome. I have some and

(05:21):
perfectly otherwise normal people that whose decision tree seems sound,
whose you know, responsibilities and life seem to be pretty
important and strong and you know, father, husband, all that,
But when it comes to Trump, all bets are off.
It just goes into lulla. I don't understand it. I
really don't. I don't understand.

Speaker 1 (05:42):
There was an announcement by Trump on Monday where they
said they will no longer recommend that pregnant women take
telling all as they believe it may increase the chances
of child being born with autism. But that announcement drove
some people crazy and a protest against Donald Trump. You
do have stories of women taking videos of themselves taking

(06:02):
Thailand all almost bottles of Thailand all and they're pregnant.
And you have one case where they think she may
have owed ed on Tylan all and are trying to
find out what exactly happened. But that's how crazy that Greg.
I just I can't figure it out. Greg. I don't
know about you, but I can't.

Speaker 2 (06:17):
It's amazing I can't either. And that woman, if that
story was true, that's the one I was actually questioning.
She was between twenty two to twenty five months pregnant,
and the prognosis was she was not going to make
She was in the emergency room but not going to
make it over that stand and did that online. Wanted
to make sure she did that, taking all that talent
online as a protest, and it is now looks like

(06:41):
that she's not going to make it.

Speaker 3 (06:42):
And she was and she was pregnant.

Speaker 2 (06:44):
So, like I said, I didn't think that could be real.
But apparently what I'm hearing today as the day goes on,
that these are actually legitimate protests that are happening.

Speaker 1 (06:54):
One other note, I wanted to bring up Greg as
we kick off the show today. You and I are
both excited about the Ryder Cup under this weekend best
page in New York. Now, they had a big opening
ceremony yesterday in which all the dignitaries gather and they
recognize and welcome dignitaries who are there from New York
and around the country. Well, apparently, the Democratic Governor of

(07:15):
the State of New York, Kathy Hokeel, did not get
a warm reception. As a matter of fact, each time
she was introduced. Guess what happened. She got booed, and
I mean booed soundly. Listen to this, keep it.

Speaker 6 (07:27):
Going for New York, your friend and mine in attendance,
Governor Kathy Hokel. Governor, thank you so much for being here,
and thank you for your team too, for getting us
ready for the Ryder Cup in New York.

Speaker 7 (07:43):
I would like to say a few thank yous to
Governor State New York, Kathy Hockel.

Speaker 1 (07:54):
As we prepare to tee it up on Friday. I
want to thank the people who made this journey possible
to Governor whole go to the teams of New.

Speaker 8 (08:01):
York, to the teams of the New York State Parks.

Speaker 1 (08:06):
H Do you think that was her crowd, Greg, I mean,
every time she got introduced, she got booed, and the
boots got louder and louder every time she was introduced.

Speaker 3 (08:16):
Awkward.

Speaker 2 (08:16):
Last night I was watching I was just watching some
like highlights, and I was watching those introductions, and I
saw the the European team throughout what they thought would
be a very warm shout out.

Speaker 3 (08:28):
You know they're in America.

Speaker 2 (08:29):
They got to the Governor of New York, shout out
the governor, hocal, and then the boo birds started very often.

Speaker 1 (08:35):
Yeah, very very I would say. So, all right, we've
got a lot to get to today, so we invite
you to be part of the Thursday edition of the
Rotting Greg Show right here on Utah's Talk Radio one
oh five nine. Brought our kid in studio, Greg down
in Saint George at our Southern Command Post, being down
there with the county sheriffs down there today. Are you
getting some award tonight at the at the banquet or

(08:56):
are they just.

Speaker 2 (09:00):
I've been there, done that, I've I've got a hardware already.
You know it's time to pass a baton to the
next worthy recipients. But no, it's a it is there
are you had to see there are a lot of
awards that are given to deputy sheriffs who've gone above
and beyond over the course of the year.

Speaker 3 (09:16):
But there's some other people that are going to be awarded.

Speaker 2 (09:19):
The Governor's chief of staff, who's whose father is in
law enforcement, has paid particular attention to public safety.

Speaker 3 (09:25):
The governor has, but his chiefest staff.

Speaker 2 (09:27):
This is something that when you have someone who's committed
in the governor's staff to and understanding the law enforcement community.
They are recognizing John Pierpont, the Governor's chief of staff tonight.

Speaker 3 (09:37):
Yeah. Good, it's well deserved.

Speaker 5 (09:39):
Well.

Speaker 1 (09:39):
Joining us on our Newsmaker line right now is Amanda Head.
Of course, Amanda is a White House correspondent for Just
the News. She's got a story out today which is
rather interesting, indicating that registration Republican registration people registering for
the Republican Party has surged since the unfortunate assassination of
Charlie Kirk, and she's joining us on our news a

(10:00):
line right now to talk about it. Amanda, great story today,
What is going on with these Republican registrations?

Speaker 9 (10:06):
Well, I don't know if my story is but it's
an amazing phenomenon and it kind of ties in with
a story that writing for tomorrow that I'll give you
guys a little bit of a tease, but it is
it's just one of these situations that we are seeing
bear out in politics that is rooted in culture. And
when I say rooted in culture, I mean the insanity

(10:26):
of the left and the sanity of the right. And
we have seen time and time again. I mean, even
since Charlie Kirk's murder, this ABC affiliate in California that
was shot up because of taking Jimmy Kimmel off the air,
these other ABC affiliates that have been that death threats
have been called into threatening them for airing the Charlie

(10:48):
Kirk special. I mean, this, unfortunately, is what we have
come to in this country. And unfortunately you still have
people like Kamala Harris out there giving an interview just
a few days ago where she called Trump the T
word again, a tyrant. And this is the type of
rhetoric that is getting people literally killed. And I am

(11:09):
so tired of the tagline. Well, it happens both ways, really,
because it seems to me that it's the people on
the right who were getting shot and murdered time and
time again, including the guy who was sitting in the
Oval office. But you know, I asked people on social
media because I wrote this article. It came out, I
think yesterday or day before that, and I asked people

(11:29):
if they thought that the voter registration booths that were
set up on Sunday at this massive turning point, you know,
Charlie kirk Memorial service, if it was appropriate. Because let's listen,
I'm Southern, and I'm all about to quorum and social
morays and making sure that everything's appropriate. So I come
from you know, I come from a certain background, and

(11:51):
I acknowledge that. So I asked people their thoughts, their
pop and most people, almost all of them, came back
and said Republicans should capital on every single opportunity, including this,
and that Charlie Kirk would have wanted this. And I
think that that is exactly true. I think that Charlie
Kirk would have wanted to use this opportunity to register

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more voters, including young voters. And listen, here's the thing.
You know, Charlie Kirk, of course he led a political movement,
but he was also someone who young people looked up
to from a spiritual perspective, and I would profer the
notion that Charlie Kirk brought tens of thousands of young
people to the feet of Christ, and that is something. Look,
politics is important, but when it comes to the Kingdom

(12:31):
with a capital K, that is what is most important
to Charlie Kirk and to me as well. So I
thought that this was a great opportunity. Turning Point has
not given me their specific numbers. I think they're still
trying to tally that up. But you know, use every
opportunity you can. But this story that I'm also putting
out tomorrow, it's I'll tell you my working title, which

(12:55):
I know is going to get changed by my editor.
My headlines are a little on them. Yeah, So my
working headline is Trump haters can't stop self disrupting to
stick it to Trump. And in the story, I'm talking
about this Thailand All situation. You know, it's it's been
what forty three years after the infamous Chicago Thailand All

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murders back in nineteen eighty two, and now Thailand All
is back in the headlines, and you've got all of
these pregnant women who are willing to put their unborn
babies' lives on the line to stick it to Trump
to prove a point. And you've got these women out
there who are who are taking videos of themselves swallowing
Thailand all and putting it out there on the internet

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just to stick it to Trump. And then you know,
we saw the booster rebellion as well when they amended
the vaccine schedule. That was something that turned liberals again.
They just went absolutely crazy about this. So you had
people who were videoing themselves getting the booster shot to
stick it to Trump and RFK. And then after the election,
these men who were shaving their heads, you know, this

(14:02):
baldness movement, and then the boycott of men. I don't
know if you guys remember hearing about this, but women
in the United States adopted the South Korean four Being movement,
which encourages women to not engage in heterosexual marriage, childbirth, dating,
and sex with men. And so it's all these destructive
patterns and I kind of feel like, you know, the

(14:24):
voter registration thing, that is something that will obviously boost Republicans,
but honestly, liberals have got to stop doing crap like
this because it only makes them look crazier. And they
are so crazy that they are now shooting and killing people.

Speaker 2 (14:36):
Hey, Amanda, here's my here's the good news. I think
in the huge home, I am living so much of
what you're talking about. If I missed anything about Charlie
Kirk until this terrible assassination, it was even my own
twenty something adult young adult children, I did not understand
the positive impact he was having is broad and as

(14:58):
powerfully as he did. This is this is this is
I again. I think I track things every day. It
is amazing, and I see the momentum that you're talking about.
Here's the here's what I'm worried about. I think the left,
it uses fear as a tactic. There they use violence
as a tactic. And when you look at the Tesla takedown,
I'm going to tell you I think that they were

(15:19):
successful in removing Elon Musk's leadership uh and and the
things he was doing because they were attacking as dealerships
and people that own Tesla's. I think that the Black
Lives Matter and the and the in the Ferguson riots
of twenty brought a force against law enforcement catch and
release uh in for law enforcement were the bad guys
until the violence and fear doesn't work. I don't think

(15:42):
they stop using it, and I'm afraid it hasn't stopped
working yet. I think that this that the attack yesterday
of the ice facility is yet another example of where
they're trying to make it so it's so chaotic out there,
people elected officials will just say we got to stop
because we've got to stop this, and people won't have
a stomach or the fear that's being created looking the

(16:02):
wrong way at why it's happening.

Speaker 3 (16:04):
Do you see us overcoming that? Are we going to
lean in on this?

Speaker 2 (16:07):
Are the leftists going to stop being able to use
violence and fear as a successful tactic, because so far
I think they've been successful at it.

Speaker 9 (16:16):
I one hundred percent agree. And look, when I was
thinking about this interview today, I don't want to come
in here as a doomsdayer or a chicken little the
sky as falling type person. But I will be completely candid.
I don't think there is another Charlie Kirk. I don't
think there is another person who can replace him at
turning point and maintain its momentum. I really really hope

(16:40):
I'm wrong, But you know, Charlie was just he was
an enigma. He stood out among his peers. Among his contemporaries,
and he was the guy. He was the guy who
could have a conversation with someone who was so far
on the other side that you could hardly even make
them out in the distance. And I'm with you the

(17:00):
fear thing. The only way that that stops is if
people start being bolder about coming out. And you've got
people like, I don't know if you guys know who
Jeffree Star is. He is a world famous makeup artist.
He is very flamboyant, but he has made it very
clear that he is gay, he's not trans, and he
has talked about the LGB movement divorcing from the TQ

(17:22):
plus plus plus whatever. And she came out after immediately
after Charlie Kirks murder and was like, what WTS what
are we doing in this country that we can allow
people to talk. And this is a guy who has
a very very lucrative business that he put on the
line to come out and say this. So, if you're

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one of these people out there who you work at
an office space that you're worried that it might be
a little uncomfortable if you let people know where you stand,
think about the Jeffree Stars of the world. And there
are a thousand of other examples of people who have
put their lives and their livelihoods, their friend groups, even
their church groups. They've put that on the line to
get out and be boulder and until frankly, until we

(18:03):
bully these people back down themselves. I don't think it's
going to stop. And that scares you know what out
of me, because they were successful in getting Charlie Park.

Speaker 1 (18:12):
Yeah, it scares a lot of people. Amanda, Thank you,
Amanda Head from Just the News. More coming up on
this Thursday edition of The Rod and Greg Show and
Talk Radio one oh five NYE OKNRS. And mister Hughes,
where are you today again, mister Hughes, I am in.

Speaker 2 (18:25):
The Rod and Greg Show Southern Command Post here in
Washington County, better known as Liberty Land. Uh huh and
all as well. This is this is a conservative conservative
fashion of the city of Utah, and it remains that
I've checked it out.

Speaker 3 (18:41):
I've asked, I've checked around.

Speaker 2 (18:43):
The leftists haven't haven't taken over down here yet, So
we look good.

Speaker 1 (18:47):
Yeah. Well, let's talk about what happened two weeks ago yesterday,
of course, the tragic assassination of Charlie Kirk, and there
was such a difference, and a lot of people are
still talking about this here in Utah. Really around the country.
Wasn't any rioting, there were vigils, there were prayers. Compared
to what happened after the death of George Floyd in Minnesota, Well,
what about honor and chaos? Joining us on our newsmaker

(19:10):
line to talk about that, as Lauren Washburn, a contributor
to The Federalist, Lauren, thank you for joining us tonight.
Let's talk about what happened honor versus chaos, Charlie Kirk
or Charlie Kirk versus what happened with George Floyd.

Speaker 10 (19:22):
Yeah, great, great question. I would say the biggest difference
is that whenever we saw the reactions to George Floyd's death,
that was mostly the reaction of the left. They were writing,
they were burning down buildings, there was really no conversation

(19:46):
going on, really just violence. Whereas enever we see Charlie
Kirk's murder, this reaction that we see that as peaceful
and people going to church and people becoming more or patriotic.
This reaction is coming from conservatives, It's coming from the right,
So The reason why we see such a big difference

(20:08):
in these two things is because it's different people reacting
to the situation.

Speaker 2 (20:15):
So here's my question. I think the left understands that
violence and fear are very effective tools. They can compel
behavior through fear, and they use violence to do it,
and I think it works. What are these visuals, What
is the peaceful reaction to Charlie Kirk, his political assassination?

(20:36):
How is that going to work for us as effective
as the left fomenting fear has worked for them.

Speaker 10 (20:44):
I think that the violence that is displayed by the
left is only effective for so long. And I think
that now people are kind of getting tired of seeing
all of the violence from the left wingers and they're
ready for a change. They're being called to pursue truth.

(21:06):
And so we see this huge movement of people who
are kind of on the moderate right or people who
are kind of in between. All on social media, people
now associating themselves with Republicans because although violent, it can
be effective. I think there is some into that. And

(21:27):
whenever we see people going to church and praying, and
you know, the Sunday after Kirk was assassinated, church pews
were just filled all across America. That is something that
is good and true and eternal, and I think that
people recognize that, and so people that's a more it's
a more lasting effort, and people are starting to recognize that,

(21:50):
which is why more people are being drawn toward that.

Speaker 1 (21:53):
Lauren, what what I was What really kind of rattled
me a little bit is the violence that took place
after the George Floyd death. And really it took place
even before all the facts came out, before we knew
what was really behind this and what happened. Yet it
almost seemed like they were just looking for us an
excuse to ride and a burned down buildings. Yes, Am,

(22:14):
I is by assessment wrong in that regard.

Speaker 10 (22:18):
No, I would agree. I think a lot of the
violence we saw, especially in Minneapolis, whenever buildings were being
burned and places were being looted, not all the facts
had even been released about what happened, what happened, and
so I think, you know, it kind of fit this

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narrative that was easy to follow, like, oh, police brutality,
and people kind of jumped on that, but we really
weren't even certain of all the facts at that time.
So I think what you're saying is people were kind
of looking for an excuse and definitely right, and it
was a way for a lot of people to feel
good about themselves or to signal. There was that huge

(23:02):
social media movement where people were posting black squares and
people were saying like, oh, we're noticing your silence if
you're not participating in this, and so I definitely see
where you're coming from, and I agree.

Speaker 2 (23:16):
So yeah, I say the leftists, the elitists and their
regime media, they're they're just a pr machine. There are
propagandist machines. So they they they've actually framed those riots
and that violence is something noble. But then as we
have seen the violence against whether it was Charlie Kirk's
political assassination, you look at the Catholic school, the kids

(23:39):
at the Catholic school that were murdered and shot, and
even this ice attack that happened yesterday, just noticing it
and taking inventory, saying this is the left and their violence.
Those leftists, elitists and regime media. They're saying, would you
tone it down? You need to tone it down, telling
us that by noticing we have somehow overreacted. You mentioned

(24:00):
that you think that their tactics only go so far.
Is how they're dealing, how they're reacting to us in
our peaceful observation but not happy about it. How we're
reacting when they say you got to tone that down
and stop talking about it. Does that get noticed by
the general public? Do they see how how much of
a double standard there is?

Speaker 4 (24:21):
You know?

Speaker 10 (24:22):
I think nowadays more people are starting to notice. It's
difficult in some ways because the left definitely runs the
mainstream media, and so you look at all these headlines
that point toward, you know, kind of the illusion that
most people agree with the left, or like what agree

(24:42):
with these statements that Democrats are making that are just
bizarre by the way, they're so bizarre. But I think
it's a misrepresentation of what is actually happening, just because
the left has control of the mainstream media, and so
that's all that we see.

Speaker 1 (25:00):
Lauren Washburn joining us from the Federalist Greg is right,
what a difference happened between what we saw here in
Utah a really around the country following the Kirk assassination
and even going back to George Floyd. What a different
different different scenarios for sure, And I.

Speaker 2 (25:14):
Think we're on the clock. It has to produce something positive.
It's already been positive, but we need to see that
momentum continue. If we want to see colaptin and they're
leaning towards violence and in fear be defeated, we've got a
counter with something good that's contagious. So I think it's
really important what happens going forward from now.

Speaker 1 (25:34):
I would agree.

Speaker 3 (25:35):
I'm citizen Greg Hughes and.

Speaker 1 (25:37):
I'm Roder Arkent. This story has been circulating for about
the what past twenty four hours, I think, Greg, But
now we've got a report coming out. Two sources, ABC
News and Fox News say former FBI director James Comy
is being indicted on federal charges. The Justice Department is
accusing Komy of line to Congress about the investigation into

(25:58):
the twenty sixteen presidential election. More details apparently are coming out,
but apparently the Fox News reporting that FBI director has
been indicted, charged with obstruction and fault statements.

Speaker 2 (26:13):
You know, the only question I have is I think
it's also it is against the law, and people have
been charged and convicted for taking classified information and leaking
it to the press. That you have a Pennsylvania attorney
General who was removed from office right and actually served
time for leaking grand jury testimony to the media. What

(26:35):
James Comy as director of the FBI leaked to the
New York Times.

Speaker 3 (26:38):
I don't even think it's in question.

Speaker 2 (26:39):
I think his subordinates actually created paper trails to cover
themselves saying we were directed by Director Comy to leak
this to the New York Times and others. And so
I would be surprised if that's not in the indictment too,
because I don't even think it's a question of if
he did it. It's just I mean, it was always
just a question of him lying to Congress, leaking classified information.

(27:01):
Was he ever going to be held accountable for what
we already knew he had clearly done. I think it's
not even I mean, the facts are very clear, so
we'll see. I mean, I don't know if if the
luck gets mad about this, are they mad that he
should be Are they saying he should be able to
commit these crimes? Or they think that the evidence isn't real.
I would be interested to know.

Speaker 1 (27:21):
Yeah, well, I'm not sure yet. Like I said, this
news is just coming across Greig as we're talking right now.
Fox News Digital reported back into the Test a July.
You're fit that Comy was involved in this investigation. We're
just getting a little bit of news on that right now,
so breaking developing. Will have more throughout the show today, Brigg.

(27:42):
But a new development. And like we said, this has
been you know we this has been reported for what
about the last twenty four to forty eight hours, Rumors
of this was worth starting to circulate.

Speaker 3 (27:52):
Yeah, the first to break he was MSNBC.

Speaker 2 (27:55):
So I think Comy already started his defense at least
in the court of public opinion, and by doing what
he did before, and that is leaking. He's a private
citizen now, but he's leaking it out there trying to
get so it's not taken so harshly when it's announced,
but when MSNBC's breaking the story, which is who did
it a couple of days ago?

Speaker 3 (28:13):
No, it's coming from Kome. He knew he was going
to be indicted.

Speaker 1 (28:16):
Yeah he is. Well, we'll have a lot more on
that and a lot more to come in our number
two of the Rod and Gregg Show right here on
Utah's Talk Radio one all five nine. Hey n Rest,
stay with.

Speaker 2 (28:26):
Us, and I citizen hughes Am in the southern command
post of the Rotting Greg Show, assessing the landscape and
the territory, and Ken proudly confirmed that, yes, Washington County

(28:46):
is in fact Utah's Liberty Land, Land of liberty. They're
all conservatives here, even if people that moved here from
out of You've got like political refugees from Nevada, from California,
from Oregon, from Washington. They didn't move here and try
to make the place because liberal. They came here to escape,
and they're hardcore conservatives down here. It's a anyway, it's

(29:07):
a great county. I always like it when i'm here.

Speaker 1 (29:09):
Well, like we've been saying anymore Greg on this show,
the news like Utah's weather. Give it five minutes and
it's going to change. Right And boy, just moments ago,
as we reported, Jason had it in his newscast a
moment ago. Federal prosecutors have now charged James Comy, the
former FBI director, with obstruction, following, apparently, according to some

(29:29):
from pressure from Donald Trump to act against Kombe. Now,
it was five years ago on Tuesday that he testified
before Congress about the twenty sixteen election and the Russian
hopes and all of that. So the statue of limitations
was going to run out on Tuesday, so they hurried
to get this, these charges, this indictment filed today against Kombe.

(29:52):
It's just kind of right now, I don't know, you know,
I've been thinking about this, Craig. I don't want to
get your thoughts on this right now. We don't know
what the allegations are as of yet. We have a
pretty good idea what they're going to be, and I
think there are a couple of things that about. It's
about his testimony before Congress, that he lied to Congress,
and the other one, of course, is going to be

(30:12):
about this leak in what exactly was leaked and what's
going to happen there. And you know, Comy has Comy
is an interesting guy, and you know, everybody's saying it's
going to get be hard to make these charges stick.
One of the reasons, and most people recognize this. You know,
Comy is a very canny character, and he knows how

(30:33):
to twist words, when to say things, when to not
say things. And you've got to believe, Greg that this
guy isn't stupid. And it's going to be very difficult to,
you know, prosecute this case because he's so good at
c YA. And that's what I'm hearing a lot of
people say already today.

Speaker 3 (30:49):
Greg, Well, I'll tell you this.

Speaker 2 (30:52):
I think that I I don't I think in the
position he was in and when he testified in front
of Congress, I don't think he could conceivable way that
he would be caught perjuring himself and lying to Congress.
So I don't know how he can try to explain
it away now. But I think that I think the
evidence that's going to be brought forward, at least even

(31:14):
as layman, as we've seen the contradictions and what he
said and as he testified to Congress versus what really happened,
I think the evidence is going to be very strong.
I think the bigger battle is going on inside the DOJ,
with rank and file members of the Department.

Speaker 3 (31:28):
Of Justice that feel a loyalty to the former director.

Speaker 2 (31:32):
And don't want to indict their own I think you've
got a media that is going to ignore any of
the merits of this case and try to say this
is just simple political retribution. I'm telling you, if you
look at all the mugshots the President, Rudy Giuliani, Mark Meadows,
who was I think is the President's chief of staff
at the time, all of the people, including Trump, who

(31:55):
were indicted by that Biden DOJ.

Speaker 3 (31:58):
I don't want to hear a word.

Speaker 2 (31:59):
About political retribution because clearly the Biden DJ established that
if you're not above the law and if you broke
the law, we don't care that you used to be
the president. We don't care that you were the cheapest staff,
we don't care that you're Drudy Giuliani. We're gonna we're
gonna try if we think he did something wrong. If
you take them at their word, then that the same
voices should be able to take this Department of Justice

(32:20):
and this President at his word that crimes were committed.
No one's above the law, and we are going to
pursue justice.

Speaker 3 (32:27):
You know they won't.

Speaker 2 (32:28):
But it is again selective logic, selective outrage, and a
complete double standard for them to have any complain about
this indictment of James Comy when they went to the
mat on the president himself, President Trump as well as
members of his administration. So I you know, I think
I think that this will be more of a political

(32:50):
challenge than it is factual. I think that I think
the evidence is so so strong. It's just whether you
can get a fair jury. You know, we're seeing that
that's a challenge in DC. Let's find out Virginia if
you can get actually a fair jury. I'd like someone
on a jury pool that didn't donate directly, you know, to.

Speaker 3 (33:07):
The Democrats for president?

Speaker 2 (33:09):
Can get Can we get someone that's just not a
donor or an employee of the Democrat Party. Can we
get a jur that's not one of those things, because
in DC apparently you can't. I don't know what's going
to happen in Virginia.

Speaker 1 (33:19):
Well, I wonder Greg about this. Pambondi and Cash Bettel
faced a huge challenge coming into their leadership of the
Department of Justice, you know, and there are a lot
of people who are left over, not only from Comed's
administration but also Christopher Ray's administration. Now, how many of
them will step in and either obstruct or try to

(33:41):
sew things down? And what this is going to do?
Because I'm not aware, and you know, in my history
of the FBI, I'm not on top of it, but
how many FBI directors have ever been indicted. He may
be the first one. I'm wondering if there was one
during Nixon's time. There may have been. But you know
how many the workings within the Department of Justice, as
Bondi and Batel have arrived with Trump's people, you know

(34:05):
what's going to happen within the Department of Justice to
move forward with this investigation. Obviously they've got the indictments.
He's been indicted on two counts today. It's going to
be interesting to see, I think, Greg, how this proceeds.

Speaker 2 (34:18):
Well, here's the challenge, and that is that the American
people are seeing. When you explain to the American people
that you can't lie to Congress and it's actually a crime.
When you see Steve Bannon, who refused to appear before
Congress on a subpoena, go to jail, when you see
all when you see the President of the United States
himself after his president indicted himself, that was a first.

(34:40):
But when you explain what those laws are and that
you're not allowed to break him and then you see
what James Comey said to Congress, testified under oath, and
what was the truth. So many Americans have been saying,
is there going to be justice. We can talk about
it all day, we can complain about it all day,
but is anything ever going to be done. It is
harder to after the former director of the FBI, I

(35:02):
would argue, than it was to go after the former president,
because that DJ and that that FBI, that department, it
has all these holdovers that worked with Tomy that you've
got to somehow get around politically to prosecute him Comy.
But when Trump left, his whole administration left and a
brand new one came in, and they and they and

(35:22):
they went and went after him on charges that are
so flimsy and not even close to the merit that
the that the charges that are coming against Comy.

Speaker 3 (35:32):
And I people say, Hughes, how do you know that?
You haven't even seen the charges.

Speaker 2 (35:35):
All I know is this, It better be in there
that he's lied to Congress, because we've seen the testimony,
and we've seen the receipts that show what he said
was not true, he misrepresented. We've seen actually the paper
trails that the attorneys at the FBI, as well as
McCabe himself wrote to say, Look, I was instructed by
the director to give this information, leaked this information to

(35:57):
the New York Times, and so that's that is illegal.
Those are the things that I know that we've seen
through transparency, through reporting he's done that's wrong. The American
people have wanted to see justice served. I think they're
giving it a good shot. Can they get a jury
to do it? Can you overcome the internal politics of it?
I don't know, but I don't think the American people

(36:18):
are going to hold it against this president or his
administration for trying to pursue justice where the law has
been broken.

Speaker 3 (36:24):
We'll just have to see what happens.

Speaker 1 (36:25):
Well, remember Greg, overtime, we've had a lot of people
call into the show and say, you know, who's going
to pay for the price for all of this this
political retribution. Now the media, the legacy media is going
to jump all over this, and that's exactly what they're
going to call it is Trump is using his authority
to go after people who fought against him. But there
are a lot of people out there, especially our listeners
are great listeners who have said, when is somebody going

(36:46):
to pay the price for all the shenannigans that went
on during the first Trump ternament. I think people are
asking that question. It's going to be interesting, I think
as to how the public responds, not so much and
don't pay any attention to the legacy media. Do you
know where they're going on this? The question is how
is the right? How is the republic? And people out
there are going to respond to what Donald Trump, Cash Betel,

(37:08):
and Pam Bondi are doing against James Colemy. It's going
to be interesting to see how this all unfolds.

Speaker 2 (37:14):
Yeah, it's the Democrats are going to have a very
difficult time explaining why they were, why they had every
right and every reason to indict. I think there's at
least nineteen people that they indicted inside, including the president
President Trump, Giuliani, Mark Meadows, and sixteen more that of
his administration they indicted. I think that Peter Navarro went

(37:37):
to jail, my goodness, for you know, and for things
he did never did, and so they kind of they
they made the case that you can no one's above
the law. We can we can go after people we
think have broken the law, take their exact words and
all of this. I think what's happened is when we
have the big aha moments, when you when there was
a report that showed Comy lied when he said this

(37:57):
to Congress, because look what we found. What what a
lot of Americans and certainly our callers Rod have said
in response to the aha moment, is okay, now what okay,
you caught him? Okay, now we know, But what does
that mean we know? Is that does anyone ever pay
for this stuff? Or they just above the law. So
I think that we know.

Speaker 3 (38:16):
That he broke the law. We know it.

Speaker 2 (38:18):
It's always been the lingering question will he ever account
for it? This is this is the attempt to hold
him accountable, to have see justice be served. And I
think that the administration is doing its level best. You know,
I'm glad it's happened. Am I positive that he'll get convicted. No,
but not because the evidence isn't strong. It's because of

(38:39):
all the other things you've got. You've got an incredible
We like to dismiss the regime media, but they are
their pr machine works and it works well, and they're
gonna make this.

Speaker 3 (38:49):
They're going to try and take.

Speaker 2 (38:50):
These charges of you know, lying in front perjuring themselves,
Comy's himself in front of Congress, leaking classified information. They're
going to try and say that none of that is
has any merit. This is all political retribution. I think
the evidence is self explanatory.

Speaker 3 (39:06):
But you know, we'll see, we'll see if people politics.

Speaker 2 (39:09):
I keep asking myself, does the leftist do they get
to keep doing the same thing? Do they get the
key book get away with doing what they've been doing
successfully for so long?

Speaker 3 (39:18):
Well, we're in the event, we'll find out.

Speaker 1 (39:20):
We'll find out. We sure will. All right, we'll get
some calls on this if you'd like to weigh in
on this today. This is breaking news. Of course, Jamis
Comy indicted on two counts former FBI director eighty eight
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(39:40):
up on the Rod and Greg Show.

Speaker 3 (39:42):
I'm citizen Greg Hughes and I'm Roder Arquet.

Speaker 1 (39:44):
Big story our breaking news tonight. If you're just heading
home from work, haven't heard this as of yet. Federal
prosecutors today have charged James Comy, former FBI director, with
perjury and obstruction of justice. A federal grand jury in
Alexandria Virginia indeededcomy on charges belief to stem from Komi's
testimony to the Senate Judiciary Committee back in September of

(40:06):
twenty twenty. As a matter of fact, almost five years
to the date it will be next Tuesday, statue of
limitations was about to run out, so they moved to
get this done. I guess Cash Betel and Dan Bongino
have issued statements about this today, Greg, what are they saying?

Speaker 2 (40:22):
Yep, thirty one minutes ago, FBI Director Cash Patel issued
this statement on X at least on exits where I'm
seeing it today, your FBI took another step in its
promise of full accountability. For far too long, previous corrupt
leadership and their enablers weaponized federal law enforcement, damaging once
proud institutions and severely eroding public trust. Every day, we

(40:46):
continue to fight to earn back that trust, and under
my leadership, this FBI will confront the problem head on. Everyone,
especially those in positions of power, will be held accountable,
no matter their perch.

Speaker 3 (40:58):
No one is above the law.

Speaker 2 (41:00):
Deputy Director Dan Bongino about ten minutes after that, twenty
four minutes ago, released a statement that says when Director
Patel and I took our leadership positions and the FBI,
we promised the American people accountability promises matter. So I
think that is their response to any critics that would
question whether COMI should have been indicted.

Speaker 3 (41:22):
Today, they think that.

Speaker 2 (41:23):
They're holding those in power accountable for acting above the law,
breaking the law, abusing their positions of trust. And I
think it's been a collective question from all of us
as the information was revealed as they took office and
they found in the bowels of the FBI and their
offices and then burn bags and all over the place.

(41:43):
The truth came out of how how much you know
skullduggery there really was? But then we all asked, okay,
you found it. Now, is anything going to be done
about it? Well, I think that has begun today.

Speaker 1 (41:56):
Well, and I'm wondering today, Greg, That's why we want
to open up the phones to you. People who supported
Donald Trump have felt for a long long time, Greg,
and it goes back to his first term in office
that there is certainly a double standard that those on
the left can basically get away with almost murder and
any I mean, you can break a pencil if you're
on the right, and you may be indicted, you know,
for destroying federal property for crying out loud. So I

(42:19):
think people on the you know, I'm wondering what you know,
our Trump listeners feel about this today? Is this what
they want? I think it is because you and I
have sat in these chairs. Lists of people call into
the show over the years saying when is somebody going
to pay the price for doing what they did? And
obviously cash Betel Dan Bongeno felt they had a case today.

(42:40):
They took it to a grand jury, and that grand
jury came down with those two counts against James Comy.
And he's a big fish in this pond, but you know,
he's a very canny character. And it's going to be
interesting how they proceed with this. And you know, the
left is going to be all over this tonight saying, well,
there's Donald Trump abusing his own power again and going
after his political enemy. There's much more to it than

(43:03):
just that, in my opinion, But I'm wondering what our
listeners feel tonight eight eight eight five seven eight zero
one zero on your cell phone dial pound two fifty,
or you can leave a message on our talk back
line as well, Greg, so itn'na be interesting to hear
what people have to say tonight.

Speaker 3 (43:18):
I'll be interested too.

Speaker 2 (43:19):
I honestly thought my answer back to those that were
frustrated about whether it be indictments or not, is that
I think knowing that what we know, getting the curtain
pulled back would empower us, whether they were indicted or not. Look,
Hillary Clinton was cut dead to rights, destroying, receiving classified
information from the State Department on a private server which
was hacked. They know that enemies of the state were

(43:41):
able to hack her private server and obtain that information.
All of that is as illegal and people have served
time in jail for the conduct that Hillary Clinton was
able to get away with. We all know it. We
know what happened. It's not even a question. But she
doesn't get indicted. And that's what the left is used to.
They're used to having a very different set of rules

(44:03):
to account and really not to be accountable. But boy,
if you're a Republican, you can put Trump and his
administration and everybody else through everything they've done, and it's
been so contrived. The impeachments, the indictments, they've been they've
been hard arguments to make well. We have found whether
it's Hillary Clinton back then or it's James Comy today,

(44:26):
it's not hard to understand where the laws that they
have broke, what they are, and so you know.

Speaker 3 (44:31):
We'll see, we'll see. Yeah, if politically speaking it can happen.

Speaker 2 (44:35):
But I love seeing that they are pursuing justice and
looking to see justice serve well.

Speaker 1 (44:41):
The question I have though, Greg, is this after he
won election back in twenty sixteen, as I recall, and
you can correct me on this, I know you will
if I'm wrong. You know, Trump was asked why didn't
he go after Hillary Clinton? I can't remember what his
answer was he but he decided not to. So the
question is on this second time around, now, why go
after people like James coming? You know, why not just

(45:03):
you know, set it aside. That's not Donald Trump. But
that question I think is going to come up. Don't
you think.

Speaker 3 (45:10):
It's a it's a very yes, it's a very easy answer.

Speaker 2 (45:12):
And that is his answer of why he didn't is
he felt that it would it would divide this country
and harm the country in terms of going after Hillary Clinton,
former first Lady, former senator, former Secretary of State, uh
and and charge her, he thought it would be He
thought that that was going to be a very divisive moment.
And then the man had to get his mug shot.

(45:35):
And then the man went through the purp walk himself. Okay,
then the man found out that these I better not
do this because it could divide this country. Uh, she's
clearly guilty, but we're gonna we We're gonna not go.

Speaker 3 (45:47):
To that level.

Speaker 2 (45:48):
Once the man is standing in front of a camera
in Fulton County getting his mug shot, once he's walking
into a courtroom and being indicted in New York, I
think he is worried in hindsight what he thought was
going to be divisive versus what they were willing to do,
breaking all the rules to do it. I think that
he thought, well, I actually think that just real justice

(46:10):
and and really breaking the law. Since they're they're saying,
this is why they were doing it to me, and
it's not a tip for tat, it's.

Speaker 3 (46:16):
A you changed the rules of the game.

Speaker 2 (46:18):
You did something that I didn't think necessarily at that time,
and this first term should be done. But once they
they went to the went to the extent that they did,
clearly they they created a precedent, and and their precedent
is you go. You're not above the law.

Speaker 3 (46:36):
It doesn't matter.

Speaker 2 (46:36):
In fact, if you're in positions of power, you especially
should be scrutinized, and if it's found that you broke
the law, you should be tried.

Speaker 3 (46:44):
This is the argument the left made.

Speaker 2 (46:46):
The only way you can be offended now is if
you somehow got four years of amnesia. During the Biden administration,
I mean, they had private meetings with Letitia James and
that guy that was working you know her, you know
side Hustle, that guy, her boyfriend that was working on
this case. How many times they does the White House
registry show that he was meeting with White House attorneys

(47:07):
and the New York prosecutor as well as the one
in Atlanta, in Fulton County.

Speaker 3 (47:14):
So they were doing things under the radar. They were coordinating.

Speaker 2 (47:17):
The White House was coordinating these prosecutions of Trump NonStop.
And this, this indictments is not untoward like that was.
This is actually real testimony and real evidence found that
contradicts what that testimony was. And he should be held accountable.
And many people, and I might be in included. I

(47:38):
had hoped they you know, they that justice will be served,
but I didn't know if they would, if they would
do it or not. I'm glad to see. I'm happy
to be wrong, and I'm happy to see that they're
doing it all right.

Speaker 1 (47:48):
Your calls and comments coming up eight eight eight five
seven eight zero one zero on your cell phone dial
Pound two fifteen and say hey, Ron or leave us
a message on our talk back line. Got already. We've
got some callers lined up and we'll get to those
comments coming up on the Rotting Greg Show. And perjury
of course lying to Congress during a hearing five years
ago on Tuesday. Charges being filed against it today and

(48:08):
we're tracking that, Greg and getting people's reaction to it.
Interesting story developing tonight.

Speaker 3 (48:14):
That's right.

Speaker 2 (48:15):
We want to go to you, our great listeners, the
smartest listening audience and all the land. Let's start with
Kerrie from north Ogden. Carrie, thank you for holding. Welcome
to the Rotting Greg Show.

Speaker 11 (48:25):
Oh thank you for having me. I'm just curious. I
don't remember what the costs were of the Robert Mueller stuff,
like over thirty million dollars and all the investigations and everything.
I'd like to see something done along with that, besides
indictments of lying to Congress and leaking, I'd like to

(48:47):
see some restitution on all the money that it costs
the American taxpayer for all this stuff based on lies.

Speaker 1 (48:57):
Well, I love the idea, Greg, but I don't know
if he's ever ever going to happened to you.

Speaker 2 (49:02):
No, I'll tell you what though, the one the American
taxpayer needs a refund for sure? What about all the
people that they financially destroyed?

Speaker 3 (49:10):
General Flynn?

Speaker 2 (49:11):
His finances were absolutely decimated for the way, you know
they tried what they did to him. You know, there's
a lot of people whose personal finances. When you indict
nineteen people, and I when I say that, I'm looking
at nineteen mug shots from the Trump administration, including the
President himself. When I when I count to nineteen, the
cost that they had to go through to defend themselves over,

(49:35):
I would argue, nothing even remotely close to what we're
seeing direct former Director Comy being indicted for today. Actually,
I don't think. I just don't think it raises to
the bar. I think it's contrived. It was political. They
wanted to take him out, They did not want him
to run for office. Again or run for a president again.
And to compare the two, I mean, the taxpayers have

(49:56):
been robbed. These people's lives that were destroyed that they
went after, and there ought to be a on ability
for that. And it's it's not a tit for tat,
it's what they did was wrong and they should account.

Speaker 1 (50:05):
Let's go to the phones. Let's go to Robin Sandy
tonight here on the Rod and Gregg Show. Hi, Rob,
how are you? Thanks so much for joining us? What
are your thoughts? Hello? Rob? There you are? Hello Rob?
We may have lost we lost Rob apparently, Rob, if
you want to call back and be a part of

(50:26):
that interesting Kate's Greg. You know the question I have
does does Jame Comy get a cup mud shot? Or
we'll see a mud shot of Comy? I mean we
did one of the first. Yeah, you know Trump, you.

Speaker 2 (50:37):
Say you made the President United States march up there
and you had to take his picture. He There should
be absolutely, there should be. If there there's if you're
going to do it, I think there should be.

Speaker 1 (50:47):
Yeah, all right, more of your calls and comments coming
up here on the Rod and Greg Show and Utah's
Talk Radio one oh five nine Kate and rs being
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as well.

Speaker 3 (51:03):
I'm citizen Greg Hughes.

Speaker 1 (51:04):
Oh and I'm Rod Urcatt. Greg, you'll be with you tonight.
Of course, the big news tonight federal prosecutors choraging former
FBI director James Comy with obstruction and with line to Congress.
And oh, Greg, you can just hear it now. The
last vestiges of the swamp are coming together to rally
and to defend James Coleby. You can just see it now.
The guy's a crook, he's a criminal, but the swamp

(51:27):
will come to defend him.

Speaker 3 (51:29):
Well, I'll tell you what I think that the discussion.

Speaker 2 (51:31):
If people are upset with this indictment, I think what
if they were serious, we would talk about what he's
being indicted for. Not they skip over it. They just
say Trump bad Trump is. It's all retribution. He's a dictator.
Now let's talk about the evidence. Let's see what it is,
because I'm going to tell you that what we saw
is just members of the public what they uncovered as

(51:52):
the administration changed. We saw enough information that we knew
that what former Director James Comy had testified to Kong
was not true. But if I'm wrong, talk about if
you think he got indicted wrongly, then let's talk about
the evidence. Let's talk, let's get to understand it better,
Let's read the indictment. I'm certainly going to do it.
I want to have a conversation about what he's being

(52:14):
indicted on, not the personality of Donald Trump. That's what
the left is going to do. That's what the regime
media is going to do. They're going to make this
a personality contest about Trump, not on the merits of
this indictment.

Speaker 1 (52:25):
Well, and doesn't it come down to Greg as I
recall there was a hearing before the Senate Committee, and
I think it was back in in September of two thousand,
twenty twenty, okay, in which Komy was being questioned by
Ted Kruz, I believe is what this was. And Cruz
asked him some questions and he denied authoring somebody in
the FBI to act as an anonymous source to feed

(52:48):
information to the New York Times. I think that's what
this case is going to rest on. I haven't got
all the details, but I think that is what happened.
That he denied authorizing somebody in the FBI to rely
leads this information about Russian hopes and everything that's going
on to the New York Times. He denied that, but
I think there's clear evidence now that he did in

(53:08):
fact do that, And I think that's what this case
is going to hang on.

Speaker 2 (53:12):
Yes, and and here's and here's here's why I think
the evidence is so strong, and why if anyone complains
about this, we should be talking about this evidence, not
about the personality of Trump that they already we already
know they don't like. When he was asked directly under
oath and a Senate committee, did you authorize leaking of
classified information to the media, His answer was not qualified.

Speaker 3 (53:35):
It was no, I did not. When you have people
that work for him who.

Speaker 2 (53:41):
Have testified under oath and have said he directed me
and it's it's it's McCabe's that's the attorney.

Speaker 3 (53:47):
I think his name was James Baker.

Speaker 2 (53:51):
They they have testified under oath that they were in
fact instructed directly by James Comy to provide that information
to media outlets. So if you really think that what
Trump did is wrong, or you think that DOJ's wrong,
Really what you're seeing is Comy's own people under oath
under penalty of perjury, telling the truth, which all points

(54:13):
back to him, you know. And then what he did
versus what he testified to the Senate and responded to
that question from the Center, what he did, it's not
the same. It's a lie. He lied, and that's against
the laws. So yeah, again, I just don't know what
they're going to I.

Speaker 3 (54:28):
Don't know how they argue all this.

Speaker 1 (54:29):
Well, And there are a lot of people out there,
especially those of us on the conservative side, point to
James Comy. I think, Greg, you may agree or disagree
with me on this one, but he is the point
man of weaponizing the Department of Justice against anything dealing
with Donald Trump. They point to him that he's the
guy who weaponized it. Now you're going to hear the

(54:50):
other side come back and say, well, now we have
Donald Trump who's doing his own weaponization of the justice
to barbon to go after his political enemies. But a
lot of people point to James Comy has been the
point man on all of this, and you're gonna hear
the left say, well Trump's doing it now, Well, yeah,
he's doing it because he should. It's the right thing
to do. This guy broke the law and he should

(55:13):
have to pay the price for Yeah.

Speaker 2 (55:16):
And then the fact is is it Uh, the should
just go back to this. Is it against the law
to lie to Congress?

Speaker 3 (55:22):
Yes or no?

Speaker 2 (55:23):
Answer is yes, it's against the law. That's not a
gray area. It's against the law. Is it true that
he answered that he did not authorize anyone to provide
classified information to the media. He said, and it's on record,
you can see the videotape.

Speaker 3 (55:37):
I did not.

Speaker 2 (55:38):
Then you go to the people where they leaked it.
They know they're the ones that leaked it, and you
ask them what, you know what happened? They were authorized,
according to their testimony, that James Comy authorized them to
give the media the the the classified information. So I think,
and it's not just once. There's a number of occasions

(55:58):
where he's done this. I think he's we say he's careful,
but I want to I recall that he had at
one point said one off he actually admitted.

Speaker 3 (56:07):
To leaking something he wasn't supposed.

Speaker 2 (56:09):
To, saying I wanted to I wanted to get a
special prosecutor appointed over the Russian issue, and I and
I knew that that.

Speaker 1 (56:17):
Needs I'm right Arquet broadcasting from our main headquarters here
in Salt Lake City. Greg, you are on the road
yet again today. You'll be back in studio tomorrow, right?
Is that where we're planning?

Speaker 3 (56:27):
Yes, yes, I will.

Speaker 2 (56:29):
I'm citizen Greg Hughes at our Southern Mobile Southern headquarters
down here in Liberty Land, Washington County. Yes, I will
be back in studio tomorrow. But yeah, I'm here and
all is well. I've got to play. I checked the
place out. Everything's good. Patriots are out this where we
were locked and loaded.

Speaker 3 (56:49):
Everything's good here. There's no leftists here.

Speaker 2 (56:51):
That's what I love about Washington County in southern Utah.

Speaker 3 (56:55):
No leftist.

Speaker 1 (56:56):
You mean you have run into one leftist in Washington County?

Speaker 3 (56:59):
No, nope.

Speaker 2 (57:01):
Now I had some technical difficulties yesterday where my my
connection was interrupted. So there was a leftist that attacked
my connection yesterday, but their sight unseen, I wasn't able
to find them.

Speaker 3 (57:13):
But other than that, yeah, now this place is great.

Speaker 2 (57:16):
This is where all the all the all the conservatives.
There's conservatives in wats that trumpet? Boy, this place it's packed.

Speaker 3 (57:22):
Yeah, so it's good.

Speaker 1 (57:23):
It's fun. Well, let's change up. As you know, if
you're as dedicated to defending, securing and restoring your Second
Amendment rights, I think a lot of people I know
I am, you don't want to miss out because the
annual gun rights policy conference, hosted by the Second Amendment
Foundation and the Citizens Committee for the Right to Keep
and Bear Arms gets underway this weekend. As a matter

(57:44):
of fact, I believe it starts tomorrow Greg at the
Salt Lake Marriott downtown. And joining us on our newsmaker
line to talk all about this is Alan Gottlieb. He
is the founder of the Second Amendment Foundation. Alan, how
are you welcome to the Rod and Greg Show.

Speaker 8 (58:00):
I'm doing great. It's really great to be with you guys.
Thank you.

Speaker 1 (58:03):
Alan. First, before we talk about the convention coming up
this weekend, there was a big story coming out of
Washington State yesterday that apparently the attorney general there has
finally come to his sentence. Exactly what happened, Allan.

Speaker 8 (58:17):
Well, he's the former attorney general. Now he's now the
governor of the state. Unfortunately, but he.

Speaker 7 (58:24):
Decided to do an investigation at the Second Amendment Foundation
where they demanded everything we ever did from our inception
to date, everything in our foul cabinets, everything electronically, every
ad we've ever run in place, About twenty thousand documents
we had to provide. Obviously, it costs us like one
thousand man hours, a couple hundred thousand dollars, and it's

(58:47):
basically he's a very anti Attorney general now anti gun governor,
and he's trying to put us out of business.

Speaker 8 (58:53):
And that because he never found anything, any form of
wrongdoing at all.

Speaker 7 (58:57):
We filed a federal civil rights lawsuit that got dismissed
on technical grounds. We appealed to the nine certred Court
of Appeals, who ruled in our favor unanimously three zero
and sent it back to the lower court. At that point,
the AG's office a new age there, you know, didn't
want to spend time and money going after something that
wasn't there. And so we kind a deal where we

(59:18):
dismissed our lawsuit against the AG's office and return the
end of their investigation and said we did nothing wrong.

Speaker 2 (59:26):
Well that's good, that's good news, and I'll tell you
but I I don't think of the cost of time.
Their strategy is not even just to prevail, it's to
keep you from doing the good work while you're fighting
frivolous lawsuits. How tell us what you've been able to
do even under duress as you're being attacked that way,
it sounds like they weren't able to slow you down
or distract you.

Speaker 7 (59:47):
Well, they weren't able to, Thank heavens, but everybody had
to work over time to be able to meet their
demands and keep the train on the road track.

Speaker 5 (59:54):
So to speak.

Speaker 7 (59:54):
But we currently have about fifty five lawsuits in federal
court all across the country protecting and defending and extending
gun rights all across the country right now in areas
from allowing young adults to be able to you know,
eighteen to twenty year olds to be able to purchase
firearms or you know, get permits to carry those challenging

(01:00:15):
so called center your places laws in areious states that
don't allow you to carry your firearm in certain places
that don't make any sense, likewise called the solvent bands
and magazine capacity bands. We've got a significant number of lawsuits.
Gun own a privacy where privacy gets invaded where you've got.

Speaker 8 (01:00:33):
To before they'll give you a permit.

Speaker 7 (01:00:35):
In some places, you've got to go get your neighbors
and family, you know, to be interviewed. You've got to
do psychiatric evaluations just because you want to own a firearm.
So we've got fifty five national suits.

Speaker 8 (01:00:46):
Going on right now. So yeah, it didn't slow us down.
But this Gun Rights.

Speaker 7 (01:00:50):
Policy Conference talks about all of this, both the legislative
agendas happening nationally, all the lossits that are going on.

Speaker 8 (01:00:57):
It's actually the City Creek Memory is to marriage. Yeah,
we're at the City Creek. We're at the City Creek Marriot.
Attendance is free.

Speaker 7 (01:01:06):
We encourage your listeners to come the big day of course,
it's all day Saturday. Uh. Everybody's who's who in the
gun rights movement from all the national organizations and you know,
podcasters and the columnists from the Bright Part and other
places are all going to be here speaking about the issue.
And we welcome your listeners to tend.

Speaker 5 (01:01:24):
Uh.

Speaker 7 (01:01:25):
If they want to find out more about it, they
can go to s A F dot O R g
H slash Gun Right g r p C s A
F dot O RG will get gets you in which
you can find it so you can see what the
agenda is and who's going to be here.

Speaker 8 (01:01:37):
And it's again it's free and all your listeners are
welcome to show up.

Speaker 1 (01:01:41):
Well, and let me ask you this. There is a
game in some amusement parks. Greg knows what I would
what I'm talking about. It's a game called Whack a Mole.
And what It's a game where these these fake moles
keep on popping out of the ground and people have
to whack them to knock it down, knock down. Do
you feel you're constantly playing the game of whack the
mole because every time you turn around there is a

(01:02:02):
new effort to control guns in this country.

Speaker 7 (01:02:05):
Yeah, you know a few years back to want to
major lawsuit, uh you know in federal court nonmous McDonald
versus Chicago then knock at the Chicago City Handgun Band
and incorporated the Second Amendment to the Fourteenth Amendment, making applicable.

Speaker 8 (01:02:19):
To all fifty states.

Speaker 7 (01:02:20):
We wanted the US Supreme Court, and then the Brewer
decision in the Supreme Court reinforced it. But we have
a lot of local politicians, particularly in the Blue states,
that don't care from their noses. The Supreme Court and
a lot of judges, particularly in the Ninth Circuit that
you don't seem to care and they see keep making
up case law to try and be able to allow

(01:02:40):
these anti gun laws to stand or the new ones
coming on in place to exist. So yeah, it is
like playing whack them hole. I remember that game with
my children. That the reason for us It is a
lot like that.

Speaker 2 (01:02:54):
So I so let me ask you this. You have
this conference happening here, and so like, what what's the
end goal? What what is it that you want to
empower our listeners with in terms of how they're going
to go forward. Uh, you know, defending having enjoying their
constitutional right to bear arms.

Speaker 3 (01:03:12):
What's the what's the goal, what's the what's the outcome
supposed to be?

Speaker 7 (01:03:16):
Well, this is the fortieth annual Gun Rights Policy Commerce.
Were move it around the country, So this is the
first time it's been in Salt Lake City. People coming
from all over the from all over the country.

Speaker 5 (01:03:25):
Uh.

Speaker 7 (01:03:26):
And Uh, what we try to do is get the
input from the grassroots gun rights activists and gun owners
and where they want to go.

Speaker 8 (01:03:33):
Uh, sort of a people's conference.

Speaker 7 (01:03:35):
Uh, and we plot out the next year for all
the national gun rights groups on what.

Speaker 8 (01:03:39):
Our agendas should be.

Speaker 7 (01:03:40):
And we share the current information and data with what's
going on all across the country.

Speaker 8 (01:03:46):
If you want to really know what's going on with
gun rights, this is the place to be.

Speaker 7 (01:03:49):
It's the gun rights event of the year and again
at g s AF dot org. Your listeners can get
the information on it and they're welcome again holiday Saturday
and half a day on Sunday.

Speaker 1 (01:03:58):
And do you have to read or is it free?
What do you need to do to be able to
get in, Alan, it's free.

Speaker 7 (01:04:04):
And registration because our staff moves around the country just
got shut down, so you can't register online, but just
show up and we will register you right here.

Speaker 8 (01:04:14):
Again, you just walk in the building and you're welcome.

Speaker 3 (01:04:16):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:04:16):
And your list of speakers. I'm looking at the list
right now. That is quite a list of speakers that
people will hear from, Is that right, Alan?

Speaker 8 (01:04:24):
Oh? Yeah, it's who's who in the gun rights movement.

Speaker 7 (01:04:26):
And it covers everything that's going on in firems, from
litigation to legislation to all kinds of research.

Speaker 8 (01:04:36):
It's an overload of information. The one complain we get
is people walk out. I'm exhausted.

Speaker 1 (01:04:42):
Wow, that's the way you want to be, isn't exhausted
from all the information they can put in their podcast now, Alan,
great to have you in Salt Lake City. We know
you did a lot of traveling today you'll be heading
this up. Thanks for joining us, and good luck with
the conference this weekend.

Speaker 8 (01:04:56):
Thank you very very much. I look forward to doing
your show again sometimes.

Speaker 1 (01:04:59):
Thank a right, Alan, thank you very much joining us
on our newsmaker line. We've been tacking with Alan Godlieb.
He is, of course, the founder of the Second Amendment Foundation.
They've got that big conference coming up this weekend. It's
called the Gun Rights Policy Conference, hosted by the Second
Amendment Foundation and the Citizens Committee for the Right to
Keep in Bare Arms. It will take place starting tomorrow

(01:05:20):
through let's see, I think through Sunday at the Salt
Lake Marriott in downtown at City Creek. So check it out,
free to the public. All right, more coming up on
the Rotten Greg Show and Utah's Talk Radio one oh
five nine knrs. And I'm Rod Arquette. The Other Side Academy,
which you and I Greg are big, big fans of.
You know, they had a big announcement the other day.

(01:05:42):
They're going to expand the Other Side Village, which is
being set up here in Salt Lake City. As a
matter of fact, they've got even bigger plans. We're going
to be talking about that coming up at the bottom
of the hour. But that is one organization that I
have a lot of admiration for, Greg, and I know
you do too.

Speaker 2 (01:05:58):
Absolutely, they've done and they've done tremendous work. In fact,
I go so far as to say, if we've had
any good work done on the front of chronic homelessness
or homelessness at all, you can point to the Other
Side Academy and their approach on how to get things
done the right way. That's who's moved the needle in
the state of Utah. So they lead by example, Rod.

Speaker 1 (01:06:17):
Yeah, they sure do well. You and I have talked
a lot about this. You are passionate about this. I
know because I've heard it about this both sides ism,
the debate over political violence and who's more violent, which
side is more violent? That goes on and on. Well,
apparently I tell you what. There was an exchange on
the five yesterday and if you didn't catch it between

(01:06:38):
Jessica Tarloff, who is the liberal on that thing and
that program, and Greg Guttfeldt, who is very entertaining and
can get very passionate about this. Well, they got into
this debate about this report which claims that there is
more political violence coming from the right than the left.
This was a Department of Justice study that was put

(01:06:59):
away because because it was totally off base. But then
guttfeld went off against both sides. Is them and what
the left and the right are doing right now, let's
do this exchange.

Speaker 4 (01:07:08):
The left calls Trump a hate longer they have called
me a hate monger because I ridic ridicule the left.
I ridicule protesters, I ridicule academia, Hollywood, the news media.

Speaker 1 (01:07:18):
I make fun of the view every day.

Speaker 4 (01:07:20):
I make fun of the un Guess what no one
acts on the things that I say because my side
doesn't do that. We say people are stupid, we say
people are wrong, but we don't say they're evil. That
is your game, okay, And then you come and you say, okay, man,
this is a mentally ill loaner.

Speaker 1 (01:07:38):
Well, who do you think does this stuff.

Speaker 4 (01:07:40):
It's not Ben Affleck, it's not Tom Brady, it's not
even parent top people who do this stuff are always
that way. The question is who points them in that direction?

Speaker 3 (01:07:51):
Why pick Ice?

Speaker 1 (01:07:53):
Why pick Kirk? White?

Speaker 4 (01:07:54):
Target TV stations that put bomb under bombs under Fox trucks?

Speaker 1 (01:07:58):
Huh?

Speaker 4 (01:07:59):
Why they of the Life's memorials? Why kill kids in
Catholic schools? Two things can be true. A person could
be mentally ill, and you can be guiding him to
that place in his life. That is how brainwashing works.

Speaker 1 (01:08:12):
Wow, did he ever go off on that?

Speaker 5 (01:08:14):
Greg?

Speaker 1 (01:08:15):
And I think he is spot on. I mean, the
words that the left used to describe those of us
on the right are much more hateful than vice versa.
In my opinion, I think that's what he was talking about.

Speaker 3 (01:08:26):
Well, he has it, you know, Look, that's it.

Speaker 2 (01:08:28):
That's the second time Jessica Tarloff has tried to has
tried to dismiss the violence of the left as both
sidism both sides is that and and she's wrong. She
got an earful from the first time she tried to
do this when she tried to say that the Charlie
Kirk thing doesn't have anything to do with the left,
it's just where America is today. And Greg Gottfeld lost it. Then,

(01:08:49):
and he made a very passioned point, good points. Back
then she went back to the same well. She tried
to drink out of that same well. I don't know
what she thought she was going to get from Greg
gottfeldt trying that same again, because it fundamentally is not true.
Greg Gottfeld is right that these people that get radicalized
are being radicalized from the left. And you know it

(01:09:11):
this way, when the New Republic, they just say fascism
and they've got a picture of Trump and they got
it like it looks like Mussolini or something. And all
they do is they never want to talk about the issue.
All they want to do is talk about, narrate and
give diagnose the person, just like what's going on right
now about Comy. No one wants to drill down on

(01:09:32):
the merits of the of the crimes that are being charged.
They just want to talk. They want to diagnose Trump
and say it's all Trump do it being vindictive and
it's Trump trying to politicize. They never want to get
to the meat or the merit of the indictment itself.
They don't want to talk about that because they're not
going to win that discussion. They just want to say
Trump is evil, Trump is bad. He's only doing this

(01:09:54):
for the worst of motivations. And you can't have a
conversation with someone like that. And that's and that's I
I'm with Greg Guttfeld all the way. Well, I am
too from this and I feel as bugged by it
as he does.

Speaker 5 (01:10:05):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:10:05):
Well, and you're right, those of us on the right
describe people as stupid and ignorant, and you know, but
we never use words like Nazi and fascist and Hitler
those words. We don't use those words. And that's what
feeds people, and I think that's what leads people to
do some of the crazy things that they've done over
the past year against those of us on the right.
All Right, we've got a lot more to get to

(01:10:26):
on this Thursday evening edition of The Rod and Greg
Show and Utah's Talk Radio one oh five nine kN rs.
I think Rod and Greg it's Friday. It's coming up tomorrow,
if you can believe that.

Speaker 2 (01:10:37):
I'm Rod Arquette, I'm citizen Greg hughes Well joining us
on the program. One of the great leaders I think
in Utah doing great, great things, Joseph Grennie. He is
the chairman of the of the board of the Other
Side Academy.

Speaker 3 (01:10:52):
They're not done.

Speaker 2 (01:10:53):
They once they master something, they find other ways to
move the needle and to help people in ways that
government can nonprofits don't so happy to have Joseph Grennye
on the program.

Speaker 1 (01:11:05):
Yeah, Joseph is just a great guy. It's just part
of the great team. Greg at the Other Side of
Academy and yesterday or a couple of days ago, I
believe it was the Other Side Village, which is part
of the Other Side Academy's efforts to help homelessness here
in Utah, unveiled plans to expand following thirty million dollars
in donations. Joseph, thanks for joining us tonight. That's big news,

(01:11:28):
isn't it. And what does it mean for the Other
Side Academy and the Other Side Village.

Speaker 5 (01:11:32):
Well, it's thrilling because not only are we finishing up
the first phase with sixty homes so that sixty people
are coming out the streets and changing their lives, but
we've gotten thirty million dollars in commitments to build Phase two,
which will help us build an additional one hundred and
fifty homes. A whole bunch of the social enterprises and
literally create space to take many, many people off the street.

Speaker 3 (01:11:56):
Joseph, here's my question, Greg Hughes.

Speaker 2 (01:11:57):
Here, Look, you guys came to the state of Utah
and it was a whirlwind. You work with private sector.
You guys have jobs, people, You generate your own revenue.
You're not looking at insurance money in state money, but
you need partners. And I saw you come into the
state when I was a public servant. The work you've
done has been immeasurable and we've never seen something like

(01:12:18):
this before. Tell us about the Other Side Village. Is
this a long term housing situation or is this a
temporary where people learned to be on their own and
kind of a springboard onto life. And so what does
it look like the Other Side Village like the Other
Side Academy.

Speaker 5 (01:12:35):
Well, the Other Side Village will ultimately have space for
about five hundred people who are currently chronically homeless. Our
belief is that if you've been living on the streets
for ten years, which is the average of those who
are participating right now, your problem is no longer housing.
Your problem is learning to relive life. And so that's
what the Other Side Village does. It focuses on the
real problem, which is helping people learn how to live again,

(01:12:57):
to get up, have a job, get along with people,
manage your mental health, and lots and lots of things
it's easy to lose track of in the squalor and
chaos of the street. And as you said, Greg, and
you've known from the beginning, the entire operation ultimately will
be funded by Social Enterprise. So we have the Other
Side Donuts we'll be opening in the next two months,
the Other Side in which will be fifty beautiful small

(01:13:19):
homes people can use for nightly remols. We have the
Other Side event Center. I'll announce here on your radio
that on December eleventh, twelfth, and thirteenth will have a
Christmas market at the other side. And so all of
these operations create jobs for people who live in the
village and help them change their lives, but also generate
the revenue that supports the village.

Speaker 1 (01:13:39):
Joseph Viewer, you mentioned a moment ago that for a
lot of the people, they've been on the street for
ten years and they're just trying to get their life
back again. How difficult of a challenge is it for
people like that who've been there for ten years, don't
know any other way of life, and all of a
sudden they have an opportunity to change. How big of
a challenge is that for people, Joseph.

Speaker 5 (01:13:58):
It's tremendously hard, and that's why the current service system
often falls short of.

Speaker 1 (01:14:02):
What people need.

Speaker 5 (01:14:03):
We've got a guy living in the village now, and
just as an example of the challenge people face, he
was a ward of the state from age four. He
lived in thirty two foster homes before he was eleven.
Some of them were so violent. This guy started sleeping
with a knife under his pillow when he was six
years old, so he was on the course to a
difficult life from day one. His biggest challenge right now,

(01:14:25):
he's got a job, he's in the village, he's in
a home, but he's got a mom who is now
out of prison and realizes she has a son with
a paycheck that wants to swoop into his life and
try to take it from him. And so learning to
hold boundaries and deal with difficult relationships and challenging family situations,
this is what drags people back to the street again
and again and again and gets them back into drugs again.

(01:14:45):
And so what we learn in the other Side prep school,
which is where people go when they first come off
the streets. They stay there for six to twelve months
and they learn these difficult relationship skills, how to manage
your finances, how to manage your mental health and medications
and things like that. So this guy is doing really,
really well, but life is challenging and he's got the
skills to deal with it.

Speaker 2 (01:15:07):
You know, it's too often, Joseph, people with a broad
brush describe hopelessness. But you've just described a very unique
subset of individuals who maybe never really lived on their own,
they haven't been independent that way, chronic homelessness, and those
that were home maybe shelter resistant because of all of that.
How long do you estimate that those that you're going

(01:15:27):
to introduce this kind of stability, this kind of self
determination and living in a home and having a job.
Do you do you see there a time where they
would move on and be independent outside of the Other
Side village or are these chronic homeless Because I'm telling you,
the chronic homelessness is a major issue that kind of
reverberates into other issues. Helping them is good in and

(01:15:47):
of itself, But do you see them moving on at
any point.

Speaker 5 (01:15:50):
Yeah, yeah, Well we'll see some of it, all of
the above, So we'll see some maybe if you come
into the village and you've got schizophrenia, or you've got
bipolar disorder, or you've got really deep chronic depression and
so forth. For a lot of people, this kind of
supportive environment where all your neighbors know what you're dealing
with and they're actively involved in helping you maintain a

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healthy life. For a lot of people, it's going to
be the best choice for the rest of their life.
But there'll be many. We have some who are fairly young,
who are in their twenties or thirties, who once they
get there and they get stable and they learn to
live life for three or four or five years, they
may decide to move next to family in Texas, or
decide to move into a different neighborhood, and that'll be
terrific too, but they'll have that foundation of success that

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they can build on.

Speaker 1 (01:16:32):
Joseph, right now, you're helped imparted by ongoing fundraising. Do
you hope the village someday could be some self reliant
and if so, what will that take? Do you think.

Speaker 5 (01:16:41):
Joseph, Yeah, Rob, that's exactly the objective. As you know,
the other side Academy is self reliant in about fifteen months.
It'll take us two or three years with the village
to get all the social enterprises up and running. But
the money we're raising now is just for capital. It's
just for building homes and building the buildings and getting
the village on its feet will not be an ongoing
fundraising issue. We're not going to be going back to

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the state. And Greg remembers that first conversation I had
with him where we weren't asking for money, we just
wanted to have a path cleared. And that's exactly what
the village will do. And you think, think about it.
That is what's so important for these folks that are
in the village because they are redefining their place in society.
They're not words of the state anymore. They're not petitioners
asking for handouts. They're bringing assets, They're bringing donuts, they're

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bringing a beautiful hotel operation, they're bringing a Christmas market,
and that's what will help them to see their place
in the world the way.

Speaker 1 (01:17:33):
It should be.

Speaker 2 (01:17:35):
Joseph, you have I think you have articulated and your
mission has Actually the proof is in the putting. It's
what you've already done. And I watched it with my
own eyes. How much good has come brought to bear
in Utah with what you're doing. You've always you've always
described your mission holistically.

Speaker 3 (01:17:50):
We're going to tell you what the outcome is. We're
not going to.

Speaker 2 (01:17:52):
Silo it into some small little endeavor. It's not about
you have a job or you have a roof over
your head. We're not going to look at it incrementally.
The holistic goal and the measurable is this, And you
always talk about what that is.

Speaker 3 (01:18:06):
What is that holistic goal?

Speaker 2 (01:18:08):
What is the measurable with the other side village, What
is it that you're accomplishing? After all said and done,
what are we getting in Utah with your leadership in
our state?

Speaker 5 (01:18:18):
And I want to reinforce what you're saying there, Greg
that you have no integrity as an organization if you
don't declare what you're going to achieve and then measure
yourself against it and be transparent about it. So our
objective is very simple. It's p sd C p SDC
permanently housed, self reliant, drug free and crime free and
so that's what we'll hold ourselves to. Are we going

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to be perfect, Absolutely not. We're working with people that
have a lot of struggles and challenges and some will
succeed in some won't. But you'll be able to see
at our website at any time you want, at the
Other Side Village dot com exactly how many people have
come in, how many have graduated our prep school, and
how many are PSDC permanently house, self reliant, drug free,
and crime free. And that's what we'll measure ourselves against

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and will admit our failures, and we're going to acknowledge
what we're doing right and hope others will learn from.

Speaker 1 (01:19:05):
It, you know, Greg, Joseph Grenny, thank you Joseph for
joining us today. Joseph of course from the Other Side
Academy and the Other Side Village. You know what, Greg,
I love what he said at the end. We're going
to set goals, We're going to come up with way
to measure those goals, and if we don't achieve them,
we've been a failure. If we have, we are successful.
What a great concept that is. And that's really how

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the Other Side Academy works.

Speaker 3 (01:19:27):
Isn't it.

Speaker 2 (01:19:29):
They are one hundred percent invested into accountability. It's the
people that go to the Other Side Academy or that
will live at the Other Side Village. They have to
be accountable. There is an accountability to them. But they
turn around and say, look, we'll be accountable for what
we say we're going to do.

Speaker 3 (01:19:43):
What are measurables are?

Speaker 2 (01:19:45):
They are very clear, and they're very concise, and as
Joseph said, are they going to be perfect. There's a
lot to learn in that space. And I'll tell you
that space has a high failure rate in terms of
people that it's hard for people to get on their feet.
But they're going to own all of it and they're
going to describe it all. And I am just very
excited to see them even move further into some areas

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that government hasn't been able to overcome or solve. Even
some of our care providers, with the best of intentions,
have seemed to not be able to find lasting solutions.
I believe this is where the Other Side Academy has
shown progress. Others haven't, So I'm excited for them. Always happened, Yeah,
me too.

Speaker 1 (01:20:25):
All right, We've got a lot more to come. Final
segment of the Rod and Greg show right here on
Utah's Talk Radio one O five to nine o KNRS.

Speaker 3 (01:20:32):
I'm citizen Greg Hughes.

Speaker 1 (01:20:33):
And I'm Rod Urkhett. You know, some polls recently have
shown Greg that Donald Trump is underwater when it comes
to the economy. A lot of people out there feel
the economy isn't working well. And then we get this
report coming out today showing the US economy accelerated in
the second quarter. As the Commerce Department released its second
revision of the real Gross National Product. The Bureau of

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Economic Analysis the BEA released its third and final estimate,
and it shows that the economy grew at a rate
of three point eight percent. And that's fantastic. Greg. This
is an analyst who was on with Maria Bartiromo on
Fox News today describing what the numbers are now starting
to show quite impressive, a gain of.

Speaker 12 (01:21:13):
Three point eight percent. This is much higher than the
second read of the second quarter for GDP of three
point three percent. It's now three point eight percent, and
this is the final read for the second quarter. A
strong economy, consumer spending strong. Yes, imports decrease and that
certainly affected the number, but again a much better than expected,

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and this is a bit of a surprise.

Speaker 3 (01:21:35):
For the markets.

Speaker 12 (01:21:37):
Claims better than expected for jobless two hundred and eighteen thousand.
We were looking for two thirty five continuing jobless claims
one point nine two six million. This is a good
story for the employment picture. Durable goods get this month
of a month up two point nine percent. That expectation
was for a loss of five tens of a percent.
That's very strong. It's about transports. Transports, excuse me, you

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got a gain of four tens of a maria. But
that TDP number, that just it's very rare to see that.
But it was a good number.

Speaker 1 (01:22:04):
Boy, that's an increase, greg And that's don't they want
the economy to hum right along? What two to anywhere
between two to four percent? Isn't that the magic number
they're all looking for?

Speaker 3 (01:22:13):
Absolutely?

Speaker 2 (01:22:14):
I mean, I'll tell you this that if you can
see that growth in that range you just mentioned, then
then your your fears of inflation aren't aren't as great
You're you're I mean, it's it is it. And by
the way, just as every every time we see it.
You know, the economists, the experts did not predict this.
They are surprised by this. It's it seems to be

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the same story every time we get positive economic news.
I've even seen where people say, well, you know, gold,
it's it's risen forty two percent over you know, year
to date in terms of value, which means that that's
the safe have and where people go when they're worried
about inflation. Well, year to date, we've had what eleven months,
three weeks and five six days of everyone's squaring up

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and down we're gonna have inflation. I mean, we've had
a year's worth of drome power promising everyone inflation's on
its way. So yeah, I don't think the price of gold,
as people are saying, is any kind of warning signal,
especially when we've had such dreary predictions from economists for
so long.

Speaker 3 (01:23:13):
People probably did react to that kind of news.

Speaker 2 (01:23:15):
But hopefully we'll start to see the markets and actually
the doll and everything, Mazda's up and has been up,
so there is repositive.

Speaker 3 (01:23:22):
News there too, good level.

Speaker 2 (01:23:23):
Yeah, I just think we just got to continue to
see the positive news continue to fuel this economy because
I think perception, consumer confidence is a big part of
a successful economy.

Speaker 1 (01:23:33):
Well, and here's some more good news to share with
our audience tonight, Greg, new home sales blue past expectations
in August, hitting the fastest pace in more than three years. Wow.
Sales of new single family homes rose twenty point five
percent to a seedgeonally adjusted annual rate of eight hundred
thousand units last month. And if anything we can do

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to get the housing market back on its feet and
get going, Greg, that is good news. But new home
sales jumping in August reaching a three year high, Wow,
good news.

Speaker 3 (01:24:06):
And I think that again interest rates go down.

Speaker 2 (01:24:09):
Affordability, how much your monthly payment means matters to everyday Americans.
That how much that they have to pay for that home,
it matters. So as interest rates go down, continue to
go down, you're going to see I think you're going
to see more economic activity and big purchases like mortgages
homes will happen as a response as a response to that.

Speaker 1 (01:24:28):
Yeah, And emotion play so much in my opinion when
it's comes to you the economy. If you feel good
about things, you're going to go out and spend money.
And hopefully more and more Americans will do just that.

Speaker 9 (01:24:38):
Well.

Speaker 1 (01:24:39):
As we say each and every night, here on the
Rod and Greg Show. Head up, shoulders back. May God
bless you and your family and this great country of ours.
Thanks for joining us on this Thursday. Thank rodin Greg.
It's Friday starts tomorrow at forth. We'll talk to you then,
have a good evening.