The Rod and Greg Show: Nations Economy; Revolt at County GOP Meeting; Drones

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Live everywhere on the iHeart Radio app. And the app
has been updated and I think it comes out Monday,
but they've upgraded the iHeart Radio app and it is
really cool.

Speaker 2 (00:10):
I'm excited. I'm I'm sitizing Greg Hughes and I'm learning
in real time that we have a new app. Yeah,
you mentioned this, yes yesterday. But yeah, so I think
that that app is important to us, folks, because that
is that's the real deal for it. When you are streaming,
we know that people are listening. It's not a sampling
like what is traditional, whether it's television or radio. How

(00:30):
they how markets are rated. This is I think the
app is. And by the way, if you're not your car,
who's got the transistor radio sitting in the kitchen counter anymore?
I don't know? Oh you do? Sorry? Awkward? All right, Well,
for the rest of us, folks.

Speaker 1 (00:47):
I know I listened on streaming. I'm listening over the
air because I want to know what's going on over
the air. It's kind of my job. Yeah, but yeah,
I am. But I stream it too, so there's commercials
on the stream. Yeah, I know, but you want to
hear how it sound on the radio. I'm an old
radio guy. Okay, great to be a great way to start.
Is it great to be with you on this Thursday

(01:08):
afternoon here on Talk Radio one oh five nine Canterrest.
What a day we have got lined up for you today.
Steve Moore will join us, as he describes himself, economist extraordinaire,
just kidding, but he'll join us talking about everything going
on with the Trump administration and the economy. An interesting
blow up today, This is pretty interesting. There was a

(01:30):
revolt at the Is it the Women's Club of the
Salt Lake County Republican Party?

Speaker 2 (01:35):
Is that what it's called. I'm gonna have to look
that up. I had it just in front of me
just now. I think it's the Women's Republican Club of Sali.

Speaker 1 (01:43):
Salt Lake City or saw it by solid There was
a bit of a dust up today, was there? That
was fun? And will tell you what happened there? All right,
Donald Trump, we'll get into this in a minute. Announced
today person there. What a day this has been for
Donald Trump? Named person another year, which is kind of like, okay,
who are you thinking about other than Donald Trump?

Speaker 2 (02:05):
Right?

Speaker 1 (02:05):
And he kicked off the stock market. We'll play that
with you here in just a minute, he got to
ring the opening bell. Wouldn't that be cool to ring
the opening bell?

Speaker 2 (02:13):
Yeah? The market yep, ding ding ding ding. It'd be fun.

Speaker 1 (02:15):
Yeah, we'll we'll talk about that a little bit later on.
We'll talk we we have a Yesterday we were talking
about everything that's going on, this this whole drone story
that we're seeing Greg back east and at one time,
I think somebody said there were forty five drones in
the sky over New Jersey and New York at one time,
And we asked, is there anybody out there and experts

(02:38):
who can tell us about these drones and their capabilities?
But we found we have found one here in Utah.
He'll be joining us a little bit later on, and
we'll talk about this new ad coming from Google. Wait,
if you haven't seen this yet, folks, you got to
take a look at it because they're going the direction
of bud light and target.

Speaker 2 (02:54):
But not on a full stomach. Don't eat a lot
and then watch it. It might have adverse effects to
your yeah, stomach, Yeah, don't do that. Man.

Speaker 1 (03:03):
All right, let's get off the show. All right, let's
start out Ohno another day. Another pair of tickets to
give away to Keith Urban Concert coming up on July eighteenth,
so we'll do that today as well. So a great
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(03:23):
as I met you.

Speaker 2 (03:24):
Greg.

Speaker 1 (03:24):
Big day today for Donald Trump being named Person of
the Year. I don't know who else they'd select, to
be real honest, other names were considered, but without a doubt,
everybody talks about Donald Trump.

Speaker 2 (03:34):
This show, the enthusiasm and the as I've called it,
the campaign of addition is now the transition team of addition.
I mean, you're just seeing people come along that we're
not Trump supporters, might not have even voted for him,
but there is an optimism I would argue even globally
about him becoming president. There is a feeling of strength
in the United States now as he is taking office

(03:57):
and preparing to and I just think there's a ton
of enthusiasm. You look at that Time magazine cover, which
is better than the one I saw yesterday that had
him look him over his shoulder or some weird thing.
This is a much better picture and just I think
three months ago they had a picture of him with
his golf cart in a sand trap at the golf
course saying he's stuck. Yeah, what a difference three months makes.

(04:17):
What a difference this year has made in terms of
his momentum and him bringing this country along. His approval
ranging is as high as it has ever been since
he's entered the presidential race scene as a candidate and president.
He's never seen numbers like this.

Speaker 1 (04:31):
And people are very optimistic. As you said, there is
a report out today of employers around the country very
optimistic in the coming year that they'll be hiring, so
the job market could go greg There's also word that
the economy is the CPI report came out a couple
of days ago. We're still trying to deal with inflation,
and I think Donald Trump, there's confidence that Donald Trump

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will be able to get a hold of that and
figure out how to control that and get that under control.
So it's not as crushing on everybody as idiots right now.
So a lot of things going on. But here's how
the morning started for Donald Trump. As he got to
ring the opening bell on Wall Street.

Speaker 2 (05:07):
The man is.

Speaker 3 (05:07):
Fascinated by the Stock morning, as fascinated as the current
president is not.

Speaker 4 (05:13):
He is no longer just a TV star.

Speaker 2 (05:15):
He's the incoming leader of the free world.

Speaker 4 (05:17):
He's going to ring the bell here in about twenty
seconds in historic moments at the New York Stock Exchange,
as we get this opening bell wrong by the President
elect Donald Trump.

Speaker 1 (05:46):
I time Greg, I timed how long he ran that bill.
He ran him for fifteen seconds. That may say a
set of record.

Speaker 2 (05:54):
I've never heard.

Speaker 3 (05:55):
Now.

Speaker 2 (05:55):
Look, I don't watch the opening bell very often, so
I don't know how often or how long that usually
is wrong. But where you usually have that as a
ceremonial deal, and I've caught it. It's not been that long.

Speaker 1 (06:07):
I couldn't believe it when I watched it. The first
thing this morning went He's not going to let up
on that button. He's going to allow it to ring
and ring and ring.

Speaker 2 (06:14):
I had a blast, Yeah, an absolute blast. He liked it.
He deserves it. It's this, this this victory lap has
just been a has been fun to watch, and I
actually think that it's not just perception. I think that
there is a real impact, a positive impact that's happening
in this country and world because of the optimism and
in the bullishness that people have about their future.

Speaker 1 (06:34):
Yeah, two of his daughters were with him today. Millennia
was with them today. I think she's coming out of
her shell a little bit. Yeah, I agree.

Speaker 2 (06:41):
Do you get.

Speaker 1 (06:42):
She's with him more, she's smiling more. Uh, And I
just think, you know, she's been on Fox and Friends
a couple of times now in the morning, So I
think she's kinda she's feeling confident as he is. I
think he feels very confident right now.

Speaker 2 (06:56):
I think that that I think that the assassination attempts
were pretty personal, and I think there's a lot of
emotion obviously in something like that. But they've been through
so so much and they're simply just not under siege
like they were for so many years. He's got account
like eight years they were that family was under daily
siege from the left and from the establishment, weaponized departments,

(07:17):
you know, government departments. It was unbelievable, and he they
have persevered and succeeded. And so I think that's a
maybe the first exhale exhale that they've had and how long. So,
and when I say exhale, I mean a Trump version
of that, he's working his tailoff. I mean, guy's not
slowing down. It's just that he doesn't have a fifty
front war to fight every single second of every single day.

Speaker 1 (07:40):
And I think Greg with his various nominations to cabinet positions,
director of various departments, he feels he has a team
that he needs who will support him and be loyal
to him. Different from twenty sixteen.

Speaker 2 (07:52):
Well, you know, here's a small little thing, but it's
a tell. Zuckerberg just said, here's a mill here's a
million dollars for your inaugural ball committee. They weren't poning
up that money ever before. They're all wanting to get
on and get you know, square with them because I
think they know he has a strength of will.

Speaker 1 (08:10):
He's going to get something done. You might want to
work with him. Yeah, And lit'st to the results of
this new poll from CNN. They're explaining how confident the
American people are in Donald Trump getting things done.

Speaker 2 (08:22):
As president.

Speaker 5 (08:22):
A majority of Americans fifty four percent, say they expect
him to do a good job as president. And we
asked specifically, do you have confidence in all of these
areas about how Trump will perform in his ability to
handle it. And once again, as we saw throughout the campaign,
the economy is issue number one of his strength. Sixty
five percent two thirds of Americans in this poll say

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they have some or a lot of confidence in Trump's
ability to manage and handle the economy as president. And
you see Russia, Ukraine follow their then immigration and his
leadership skills his way. He intends to use his power
for whether that'll be responsibly not a bit lower. But again,
all of this is majority support. So that is where

(09:04):
things stand right now.

Speaker 1 (09:05):
Boy, there's just support for him every one of the
major issues. Greg there is more than fifty percent of
the American people saying they're very confident the president Trump
President elect Trump can tackle these issues now, he said
in this time interview, he was talking about one of
his priorities, of course, has to be the economy and
the high prices of things. He said, those are things
that are difficult to bring down, but he's going to

(09:26):
do everything he can to do so, so that's one
of the big challenges.

Speaker 2 (09:29):
Yeh. And energy, Yeah, lower cost of energy, I think
ye that will way doing that. Yeah, that's for sure,
costs go down your the you know, the trucks that
deliver the goods goes down. There's just a lot. He's
made this case and so has a JD vance in
the campaign on the campaign traw you get those energy
costs under control, that that will have a that will
have a relief on the on the rising costs, that

(09:51):
will bring it the other way. And I think he's
absolutely right.

Speaker 1 (09:53):
All right, we've got a lot to get to today.
Steve Moore will join us next here on the Rod
and Greg. Joe great to be with you. Still to
come sometimes him today. A chance for you to win
two tickets to see Keith Urban in concert. That's all
coming up right here on Utah's Talk Radio one oh
five nine k n RS.

Speaker 2 (10:08):
I think this is an eighties song. No, I think
it was eighties. I'd own it. I'd know it. I
know every word, every every note. Yeah. Well, like you say,
you don't have opinions, you just know. I just know. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
I love you.

Speaker 6 (10:22):
All right.

Speaker 1 (10:22):
Welcome back to the Rod and Greg Show here on
Utah's Talk Radio one oh five nine. Ken Orrist, don't
forget we've got a pair of Keith Urban tickets to
give away. We'll be doing that sometime this afternoon, let's
check in with Steve More. You know, we have a
chance to talk with Steve every week when we can
get a hold of him. He's very busy guy. Top
economic advisor to one Donald Trump, so he knows what
the president is thinking when it comes to the economy.

Speaker 2 (10:45):
We have a good person on the inside. This is
a guy that's promised us he's not going Hollywood. It
doesn't matter what he's doing in that in that West wing.
We have his ear and he has ours. So this
is a contact we can we will pursue and continue
throughout this next term.

Speaker 1 (11:00):
Yeah, Steve, thanks for joining us tonight. Steve, I want
to ask you, first of all, was Donald Trump trying
to set a record or did he set a record today?
We're holding down the button on that bell of the
Stock Exchange.

Speaker 7 (11:10):
Well, you know, it was an amazing event at total
political home run. And what's going on is that Trump is,
you know, literally and figuratively pushing all the right buttons,
and so this was a spectacular event. I mean to
see all these traders, Wall Street traders on the floor
of the New York Stackers Change, you know, breaking out
in the USA, USA. It was just a really well

(11:34):
orchestrated event and made everybody feel good about Trump and
the country and what is to come. And so really
quite quite amazing event for people who didn't wash it.
You know, it's just sent to chill down my spine
to see the enthusiasm that Trump got from so many

(11:56):
of the people, the traders and the business people. Angela.
Trump is as pro investor in pro business, and so
I didn't expect that kind of reception.

Speaker 2 (12:07):
Yeah, the enthusiasm was palpable. So you as an economic analyst,
you you can see things that we can't. You just
see it all. I just want to know, is it
the case that the longer that bell rings, the better
the market's going to do in the economy? That is
there a correlation there, Steve, Please tell me there is.

Speaker 7 (12:24):
I'm going to have to I have to get the
data and I'll see if they have that data collected
about But it was an amazing It was really quite
I mean I have to say, just everything that Trump
is doing is really well done. I mean, we talked
last week about the brilliance of you know, when he
when he went to the McDonald's and put on the

(12:45):
uniform and you know, just things of that nature were
you know, also going out to the to the Notre Dame,
Notre Dame, you know that it was almost and this
is the interesting thing. It's all almost like he already
is president. I mean, why wasn't Joe Biden there? Yeah,
there is that Hill wasn't And so I mean it's

(13:09):
almost like gets an extra two months to be president
because he hasn't been sworn in yet. That's not coming
for another five weeks. But it's almost like, uh, you know,
Joe Biden has renounced the clown.

Speaker 2 (13:24):
You know, I can't agree. I couldn't agree more. It
really it seemed like this was the emergence and the
coming out party of President Trump. And oh, I think
there was something with Notre Dame there somewhere. I think
that it was almost like the backdrop of the main
of the main event. So but let me ask you,
with that kind of momentum and the enthusiasm, and I'm
just hearing just different the optimism of the economy people are,

(13:46):
and even business owners that maybe more bullish about what
they're going to buy or what they're going to invest in.
Are there ways with that kind of momentum He's feeling
right now that that can measurably improve the economy even
before January twentieth, or is this just perception that we're
staring at.

Speaker 7 (14:03):
Well, No, I mean that's a really good question. And
the fact is that Trump is he has very high
you know, he's more popular today than he's ever been.
Did you know that, you know, his approval rating is
still high right now. And it's amazing to me, frankly,
because I think I had predicted that on your show,
you know, a couple of months ago, that Trump won,
there could be violence in the streets, But there's been

(14:24):
no violence, there's been no protests. People. In fact, you know,
my Democratic friends are kind of open minded that Trump,
you know, the people used to hate him, you know,
are saying, well, maybe let's give this guy a chance.
And so that's point number one. Point number two. You know,
optimism helps certainly, Well you look at what people are shopping,
people are starting businesses. Small business confidence went through the

(14:45):
roof the highest level of small business confidence we've seen
in thirty years. So yeah, that optimism can have a
positive effect on how people behave and their willingness to
invest and spend money and start businesses.

Speaker 1 (14:59):
Steven and your committee to U Leisha Prosperity newsletter out today.
There was an article there about extending the tax the
Trump tax cut, indicating it would cost another four point
five trillion dollars. You say, absolutely not. Explain that if
it would, Steve, Well, look, one.

Speaker 7 (15:17):
Of the lessons we've learned over the last you know,
forty five years since Ronald Reagan was present, is so
sometimes when you cut tax rates, oftentimes you're going to
get a nice economic feedback. You know that in Utah
you're a pretty low tax d and look at all
the people are coming to Utah, look at all the
economic activity you have. So low taxes can generate a
lot of economic activity. And when that happens, you know,

(15:39):
when you create more jobs and that kind of thing,
guess what, you get a lot more You get a
lot more tax from it, right, because people start creating things.
And so I guess I would say that you know this,
this fictitious number four point five trillion that basically is
based on the assumption that nothing good's going to happen
with this, Yeah, not true. Good things happened. We saw that.

(16:03):
By the way, you don't have to take my word
for it. We saw it when Trump took cut taxes
in twenty seventeen, and we actually got there was no
revenue loss from it. Even though the same people predicted
two trillion dollars of revenue loss, there was no loss.
So I feel strongly that we need to use realistic numbers,
and a four point five trillion dollar revenue loss is
just a bunch of bologni as my mom used to say.

Speaker 2 (16:25):
So here's here's my question, because I couldn't I agree
one thousand percent. I'm worried. I think I'm hearing things
from the new majority leader Center Thoon and the Senate.
Maybe in the House, but I really hear it in
the Senate that you know, extending the tax Trump tax
cuts isn't the first priority. We're going to get to
the border. We're going to get too other things, but
we're not They're not going to do that. You know,

(16:47):
you got two years where you enjoy this majority. You
don't know what the three year three and four would
look like. How can they actually with a straight face
not tackle and extend those tax Trump that tax tax
cuts right away? Do you think that that will get
punted or do you think that will be first order
when he takes office in Congress convenes.

Speaker 7 (17:07):
Yeah, I mean, I you know it, what's the old thing?
If you're a hammer, everything looks like a nail. So
I'm an economist who supports tax cuts. I want to
see that that tax cut downe. But obviously there are
the two most important priorities for that'd Trump, I would say,
are securing the border and getting the tax cut done.
Now how they order that? Which? You know, it's like
you know which one comes first. I don't know, But

(17:29):
I would say this Trump is enormously popular right now.
It may be as popular as it's ever going to be.
That means he has an enormous amount of political capital.
And you know, political capital can expire. You know, you
could be popular one day as a president. The next day,
you know, you do something stupid or dumb, or you know,
something happens to the economy, and the pitdle capital is gone.

(17:50):
So my point is, I don't want to squander this moment.
I think we should go for the gold. We should
we should go for everything right out of the gate,
first hundred you know, first one hundred hour, first one
hundred days. The Democrats are in disarray and I think
also a lot of these things are popular. I don't know,
I don't see Democrats voting against border security, although some
of them, well, I bet you could get some Democrats

(18:12):
to support these policies. They're popular with the American people.
So let's go go go.

Speaker 1 (18:17):
Yeah, let's go go go. You're right, Steve, Steve Moore
joining us, and Theed's right. I think you've probably heard
the phrase before, Greg, all gas, no breaks. That's what
the administration needs to do. All gas, no time.

Speaker 2 (18:27):
Is a lot shorter than people would would realize because
you do budgets twice. He's got two budgets to get
done right now, and he'll have one more. But I
would not kick the can down the road on these
extending these tax cuts. I would get that done first order.
They can multitask. The only people that would stop that,
in my opinion, would be the swamp senators that want
to spend that money and they want to see that

(18:47):
money come in, and they're the only ones. And I'm sad,
sad to say it's not just Democrats there. There's some
Mitch McConnell's out there that have their eyes on the friese. Yes,
we've got to get those Trump tax cuts extended, and
they are crazy if they not do it right away,
because then you get one more chance before midterms, one
of the many things he has to do. We hope
he gets it done. All right.

Speaker 1 (19:06):
More coming up on the Rodden Gregg Show, coming up
in the five o'clock Cower. Very big day for President
e like Donald Trump named Person of the Year by
Time magazine. Got to ring the opening bell on Wall Street.
I think you had a little bit of fun with that.

Speaker 2 (19:19):
What was you know?

Speaker 1 (19:20):
People are saying this is the political comeback, maybe the
biggest in American history? What was behind it? Would you
agree is the biggest comeback? Yes, I would think so.

Speaker 2 (19:29):
Yeah, I've never seen anyone go through what he's gone through,
and yeah, yeah, it's simple answers. Yes, yes, it's the
biggest well that we've seen in history. So more like
it might be some one long time ago. But I'm
telling you, in modern history, nothing close. Maybe Nixon's comeback. No,
not close.

Speaker 1 (19:44):
No, I don't think it is either. We'll talk about
that coming up in the five o'clock Cower. Get your
thoughts on what was behind that comeback. But there was
a bit of a dust up, I would say, today
involving some Republican women here in Salt Lake City in
County greg what happened?

Speaker 2 (20:00):
Look, my phone started to blow up. I've got you know,
I got, I got sources, Rod, I got people, Okay,
I got, I got my ears to the ground. And
in the middle of the day. I don't know what happens,
but all of a sudden, it's like a mushroom cloud
over Salt Lake. There is a Women's Republican Club of
Salt Lake meeting. Now, these are usually I think I
would remember them to be very polite and very you know, nice,

(20:21):
just nice, and they're working for a good causer on
the side of angels. Man, it was a dust up.
You had about one hundred women that were told they
can't come in, they can't be a member of any club.
Get out. And the I use this term I hate
to say folks loosely the woman. And when I say woman,
I mean man. Okay, this burly dude who was by

(20:43):
presenting himself as a woman, was at the door telling
these ladies to take a hike. Well, they had elections
for a new president, a new executive team, I guess,
a leadership for the Women's Republican Club of Salt Lake
former candidate for the for the Senate US Senate Carolyn Fippen,
former staffer of mine when I was the Speaker of
the House at the Utah House, I was, I believe

(21:05):
elected president. But she was there and she is joining
us on the show today to kind of give us
the play by play of what in the world happened.
I don't even know, Carolyn. Thank you for joining us.
I don't know if I just did it justice what
happened today, That's why you're here joining us. Thank you
for joining us on a program. Please tell me what
happened today, because I've got so many texts, and I
got so many different versions, but all of it looks chaotic,

(21:26):
but it looks like justice prevailed and something good happened
at the end. Please share what happened.

Speaker 8 (21:32):
Yeah, Well, let me say, I think I need a
new hobby. I'm going to start crocheting because I keep
finding myself in these circumstances. But let me tell you.
You may think Rod that Trump just made the biggest
comeback in history, but we just had to day the
biggest election victory in history in Salt Lake City, Utah.

Speaker 2 (21:54):
So do explain tell us how I mean, because I
do think you're right, but I don't know that people
appreciate the mat of what was attempted, but what succeeded today.

Speaker 3 (22:04):
Yeah, it was pretty.

Speaker 8 (22:05):
Crazy because this is the largest or the longest running
Republican women's organization in the nation, one hundred and twenty
five years this year, and it has over the years.
We had one of the past presidents this organization there
today supporting me. It is not the same as it
was then there at the end of twenty twenty three,

(22:25):
there were ten members according to the filing with the
national organization. It just isn't what it should be, right.
This is one hundred and twenty five year old organization.
It is Salt Lake City, Utah. We are at conservative state,
so we had a number of us who were interested
in helping to kind of.

Speaker 9 (22:42):
Revive this club.

Speaker 8 (22:43):
And I had spoken with the current president about a
month and a half ago and said, I want to
work with you. Right anyway, let's get to today. Well
let's get to this week, because what happened a couple
days ago was we decided to run elections were supposed
to be in November. Let me give you this little background.
They were not held last November, and so the president

(23:05):
said they'll be in the spring. It was March or
April or February. I was running for Senate. I was
not involved, and so a number of actually conservatives brought
a lot of women into the club. They had maybe
ten members in the club. They brought thirty or forty
more showed up to vote in new leadership, and they
called off the election and said we'll hold it in November.

(23:26):
It was pushed off from November to December. So you
sing a pattern here, Okay, So in December we're told
we can this election will be held, and I got
so I started doing a couple videos on social media saying,
come on out, we need conservative women to support this organization.
At the November meeting, I was told just bring a
check in December, because the two options to pay were

(23:48):
either a check who cares a checkbook, like, let's be
serious a check, or send it to the president's personal VENMO.
I was not comfortable with that, so they said just
bring a check in December. We're good anyway. That apparently
we were told that we could have sent them to
the state Venmo, but we wouldn't be allowed to pay today.
So I started sending people to the State Venmo. They

(24:10):
started refunding. They refunded my dues and a whole bunch
of other people. They shut down. It looks like the
State Venmo. I have screenshots that make it look like that.
And I got a call from the State Federation and
we were told to stop recruiting people to join the club.
So I don't know, right knows me?

Speaker 9 (24:31):
I tell me to stop.

Speaker 10 (24:33):
Good luck, that's not going to work out so well
for you.

Speaker 8 (24:35):
So we continued. We had about one hundred and ten
women there wanting to join. They came with casher checks.
We hired our own parliamentarian because we knew they were
going to try to play games with the rules, and
we forced a vote through parliamentary procedure. I won't get
into it with you what we did right now, but

(24:56):
it was amazing. Our parliamentarian gave us a strategy a
couple days ago. We worked out a number of different
things and how to do it. We forced a vote
to allow all of us in. We all got in,
we paid our dues, and we elected a new team.

Speaker 1 (25:13):
Carolyn, let me ask you a question where the Conservative women.
Were you unhappy with the leadership of this club or
were you unhappy that the number of people involved in
this club was so small, like you said, only ten
or twelve members. You wanted to increase the size. What
was the driving force behind.

Speaker 7 (25:29):
This, Carolyn, Yeah, it's both. Here's the thing.

Speaker 8 (25:32):
There are a lot of women who've been involved in
this over the years, and they've stopped coming because you know,
it's hard. This is a volunteer position, right, It's hard
to keep things going. That's why we said, let's help,
let's revise this. So a lot of things weren't regularly
noticed or regular and people got frustrated. It was just

(25:54):
a lunch club. When I talked to the past president,
she told me, Carolyn, is just a lunch club. Well,
you saw how Salt Lake County went in the elections
this year. We have across the nation people really.

Speaker 2 (26:06):
Excited for.

Speaker 8 (26:09):
Change in a positive way, in a conservative way, in
a constitutional way, and we are not going in the
same direction in this county. And I think a lot
of that comes to at the county level. We don't
have a lot of strong conservative leadership. You look at
what Ronda Santis did.

Speaker 10 (26:24):
I know this.

Speaker 8 (26:25):
I am from New York and you have Florida that
is full of New Yorkers. Oh you're from New York
to rod and Florida has not. It's been a swing.

Speaker 10 (26:34):
State for years.

Speaker 8 (26:36):
And you have Ronda Santis step up and lead like
a true conservative, and the people not only flocked to Florida,
but they flocked to those policies. They want to see
that kind of leadership. People are not excited about. You know,
you're shrugging your shoulders and say, well, you know, we'll
just be somewhere in between like communism and you know
whatever these guys are negotiating over here, you've got to

(26:59):
lay out your print. You have to fight for them,
and you have to show that you have the ability
to make change.

Speaker 2 (27:05):
So, Carolyn, we're running into a break right now, and
so we don't have time to explore this one detail
that I want to explore, but I just want you
to just confirm to our listeners because I'm going to
get into this in the following segment. One of the
women was actually a man. He was a man dressed
as a woman, but this is a man. I could
hear his voice that was stopping you. You had men
stopping you from participating and joining the Women Republican Women's

(27:27):
Republican Club of Salt Lake. These were men. There was
a guy. I watched him. Is that true?

Speaker 10 (27:34):
That is true.

Speaker 8 (27:34):
We had two men at the door who.

Speaker 2 (27:36):
Would not allow us him and one was dressed up
like a woman. Okay, all right, I'm going to get
that later. And I know you're talking policy, but I
think that there's an irony to this guy stopping women
from participating in this club. I just think it's a
bizarre world. So thank you for calling in. Congratulations on
being as president. We would love to see this large,
this organization revived and become influential. It should be. Yeah,

(27:58):
so thank you, thank you, Carolyn.

Speaker 1 (27:59):
All Right, more coming up on the Roden greg Show
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Speaker 1 (29:03):
All right, Our number two, we'll talk about Donald Trump
the comeback, maybe the biggest in political history, American history.
We'll talk about it and get your reaction to it.

Speaker 2 (29:11):
Coming out. Great to be with you. I'm Rod Arquette,
I'm citizen Greg Hughes. Just to put a pin in
our last discussion, right before the break. At the top
of the hour, we were speaking with Carolyn Fippen, former
staffer of when I worked with her in the state
House and a recent candidate for the US Senate. She
went today to attend the Women's Republican Club of Salt

(29:35):
Lake's meeting. It had become a club that's gotten a
lot smaller. They wanted to come and they were having
elections for leadership. She and about ninety nine other women
were coming to join and to vote for new leadership
and wanted to vote for Carolyn Fippen. They were stopped
at the door by the smaller group that did not
want to see a resurgence of membership and maybe a
change in leadership, and they were told they were not

(29:56):
allowed to enter or participate. The part of that story.
And I asked Carolyn Pippen before we hung up with her,
because there's a lot to unpack, and that's in what
happened today, and she talked a lot about a lot
of good things. Is the irony and the disbelief I
have that there was a man at the door that
was part of this Women's Republican Club of Salt Lake

(30:18):
who is purporting to be a woman he's dressed like
a woman, he's talking like a man. I mean, I
saw the video. His voices as deep as deeper than mine.
He is keeping these women from participating in this club.
And I can find no greater irony than a women's
Republican club where a man that's trans dressed as a

(30:38):
woman is preventing women from being able to participate. And
this guy's big, Folks. I'm not talking some dainty little
bud light commercial man acting like a girl. I'm talking
about a big dude. Okay. In fact, someone told me
who it is. It's been a Republican grassroots guy that
I remember. I think that is him. But this is

(30:58):
not a small guy. He is physically stopping them from
being able to enter this meaning and it is to
me it's like, so we worry about these men playing
girls' sports and men that are taking opportunities away from
women in Salt Lake City and Utah, Red State Utah.
In Salt Lake today you had a man stopping, physically

(31:19):
stopping women from participating in what is the oldest and
longest standing women's Republican club in America. I find it otherworldly.
I find it beyond comprehension. That in twenty twenty four,
this is where we are, and that this guy that
I'm looking at in this picture of the social media
picture with a straight face is keeping women from participating

(31:39):
in this club. I just think where it's la la land.
Someone's not reading the room in terms of where this
country's going. If you want to comment on this, feel free.
If you were one of the women that were trying
to participate or did get to participate ultimately, because they
held them out for over an hour before they could
get in, they weren't given up. It's clear that this

(32:00):
man hasn't been a woman long because he's trying to
tell one hundred women that they have to pound salt
and leave and you just don't do that. That's the
worst thing you could do in life. Now, this guy's
a rookie at being a woman. He didn't even know
what he got himself into. If you were a part
of any of that and you do want to share
your experience, I think that no one is going to
believe what I'm saying. It actually could be real good
leg on that one vote. Wow. So yeah, there's that,

(32:22):
all right.

Speaker 1 (32:22):
The other thing we want to talk about today as
well as I mentioned big day for Donald Trump. Today,
of course, person of the Year rang the opening bell
on Wall Street and people are calling. You know, this is,
without a doubt, the biggest political comeback story ever, I
think in the history of this country Donald Trump. So
my question is, what, Greg what did he do differently

(32:45):
from twenty twenty to twenty twenty four that fueled this comeback?
I mean, what did he do differently? What is different now?
Was it people saying well, he should have never lost
in twenty twenty it was a rigged election, so we're
giving him a second chance? Has he done things differently?
I want to know what pushed this comeback? What did

(33:06):
he do differently that connected with the American people and
got him won two three million more votes to win
the election this year?

Speaker 2 (33:13):
What did he do differently?

Speaker 3 (33:14):
You know?

Speaker 2 (33:14):
And I have We've talked about this topic a lot
on the show, and I certainly have my opinions, but
I'd love to hear from you the listeners eight eight
eight five seven zero eight zero one zero on this
question about why was Trump so not only just successful
in an electoral college, but the popular vote, which I
would have argued you couldn't win as a Republican anymore
when the county, when Los Angeles County in California has

(33:37):
more population in that county than all of the states
of this nation except for six So it seems like
the numbers are against you on the raw population side.
He won the popular vote as well, and I think
so there's a lot to be said about this, this comeback.
And I don't know that you've ever seen someone attacked
more physicallyriminally by our federal law enforcement, you name it.

(34:04):
He prevailed us through it all, and it seemed like
he brought people along the entire way. But what do
say you about that? Yeah, if you want to talk
about that or talk about this, this man lack dressed
like a woman trying to keep women from participating in
the Republican Women's Republican Club of Salt Lake. If that's
something that you can confirm or when we talk about

(34:24):
that's the topic we can delve into this hour as well.

Speaker 1 (34:27):
Now, Kelly and Conway was on a panel discussion with
The New York Times yesterday. There are a number of
people there, Van Jones, who's former Speaker of the House,
Kevin McCarthy, Jason miller a discussing this campaign, and I
think she summarized now her comment lasted about five and
a half minutes. We're going to carry this whole thing,

(34:48):
but here's a portion as to what she said about
Donald Trump and how he was able to connect with
the American people this time around.

Speaker 11 (34:56):
He goes to East Palestine before any before any official
in the Biden Harris administration, before the Secretary of Transportation,
before the sitting senior senator, now the ex senator of Ohio,
shared Brown, and he is he's honoring the police officer
who's slain in Massapeak with New York on Long Island,
while Clinton, Bill Clinton, Barack Obama, and Joe Biden are

(35:18):
all at Radio Center Music. Call it a fundraiser. He
beats Kamala Harris to Georgia and North Carolina where people
are in pain, where everything that they've had and loved
ones have been washed away, literally in Kamala Harrison and
San Francisco at a fundraiser. So people see this, they
know what they see, they know what they hear. And
I think the big distinction in this last election, Krats

(35:38):
would have won if they got away with convincing Americans
to believe what the Democrats told them was real and
true and authentic, rather than what they saw with their
own eyes and heard with their own ears what was
real and true.

Speaker 2 (35:51):
I'm authentic and.

Speaker 11 (35:52):
This is the election where Americans are saying, no more,
you are not going to pigeonhole and narrow cast me
and tell me what to think for whom to vote
and how to feel based on my age, my gender,
my race, my sexual orientation, my religion, my political party registration,
my past vooting behavior.

Speaker 2 (36:09):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (36:09):
I think she was pretty spot on and someone that analysis.
Greg and you have you and I have talked about
this before. I've always felt that emotion plays a big
part in how you vote, how you feel, right, But
but you had pointed out facts playing into it as well.
I think Donald Trump was able to combine emotion with
facts and that's why he won the election.

Speaker 2 (36:29):
Yeah. I think the facts of this election were emotional. Yeah,
I think, and I think that's the That was the
big cause. They wanted they tap into people's emotion of
fear about Donald Trump. He was a fascist, he was
hitler they wanted to be. They wanted them to emotionally
recoil from him. The emotional appeal to Donald Trump was
really to the suffering that people are living through, and
he was able to touch on that. And I have

(36:49):
a record to show that he wasn't doing this to
them when he was president like they're feeling today.

Speaker 1 (36:53):
Well, Kelly and Conway. Here you had the Democrats, Greg
telling the American people, Oh, Joe Biden is fine, he's
doing really well. He's a show up and Zephyr yep,
you know, but two months out they get rid of them. Okay,
every every member of the Harris team was telling the
American people, the economy is doing really well, best has
ever been. We've created more jobs than ever before. Americans

(37:13):
didn't take either one of those. The list is long
and long on that, and I think Kelly Inn spot
on on that as well. All right, eighty eight eight
five seven eight zero one zero on your cell phone
dial pound two fifty and say hey, Ron.

Speaker 2 (37:24):
Hey, let's go to our callers and I hear what
you have to say. Let's go to Darren in Springville. Darren,
welcome to the Rodd and Greg Show.

Speaker 3 (37:33):
Hi.

Speaker 12 (37:34):
Yeah, I just wanted to comment on why Trump actually
got more votes.

Speaker 13 (37:40):
He didn't.

Speaker 7 (37:41):
He didn't change.

Speaker 12 (37:42):
He's not like a lot of politicians that just you know,
test where the wind is going and then change their direction.
He stayed true to it even through all the law
there that he was going through. And I think combined
with that, that's why that's why he got more votes.

Speaker 2 (37:55):
I agree, I agree. I you know, I think he
spot on with that. He didn't change He really didn't.
I mean, he brought people to his positions, he did not.
He did not change him with immigration, with all all
the economy, you name it.

Speaker 1 (38:08):
If you go back years ago the remember we played
audio from an interview he did on Oprah.

Speaker 2 (38:12):
Yes, what he said back then, he's saying the same
thing today. He's right. They didn't change man before the Apprentice,
back way way back when he said America is a
bunch of suckers in terms of how we let China
treat us. They are getting every benefit in the world
and trade and tariffing the daylights out of everything we
try to send over. He's been consistent and he's been
seeing it right.

Speaker 1 (38:33):
Yeah, back to the funds we go. Let's go to
Laurie tonight here on the Rod and Greg Joe. Laurie,
how are you? Thank you very much for joining us.

Speaker 9 (38:41):
Hey, I'm doing great. Hey, Greg, you know who I am. Yes,
you guys, we're talking about Trump. And remember when we
were sitting in a delegate meeting and you said that
you were going to vote for Trump? And what did
I say?

Speaker 14 (38:53):
Are you nuts?

Speaker 15 (38:54):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (38:54):
I was trying. I wasn't going to be I wasn't
gonna oout you that way. Lauria, I know, yeah, it was.

Speaker 16 (39:01):
It was.

Speaker 2 (39:01):
It was a lone place.

Speaker 9 (39:04):
I know, I know, but you know what you were?

Speaker 7 (39:06):
Right?

Speaker 9 (39:06):
So how many women say that to you?

Speaker 2 (39:09):
And non is this is the first. I'm having a moment.
This is beautiful. Thank you.

Speaker 9 (39:13):
That's great. So I was at the event today for
Carolyn and when that person and you know, we were
supposed to go into a certain room and when we
tried to get in there that this person was standing
there and he's like and that person said, well you

(39:34):
I'm just trying.

Speaker 2 (39:35):
To I know, you're working on your words.

Speaker 9 (39:38):
I know. I thought, what an attractive woman. And then
he opened his mouth and started talking. I'm like, that's
a dude.

Speaker 2 (39:46):
It was. I was shocked and he was a bit abrasive.
Wasn't he not to tell the listeners? I think that
you I've seen it. I've seen a video of it
shared how he was he was not letting people physically
not letting people in and saying you can sue, you
can do whatever point you're not coming in. It was
very aggressive, wasn't it. Yeah.

Speaker 9 (40:04):
And they they weren't going to let us pay our
dues or you know, the people who hadn't pay their
dues ahead of time. They weren't going to let us
pay our We're not accepting any money for dues or anything.
And it was just the weirdest. I mean, I've been
doing this a while, I've been a delegate for a
long time, and it was one of the weirdest experiences
I've had ever, you know, in this type of realm.

Speaker 2 (40:27):
But justice prevailed, did it not. You didn't give up,
and you were ultimately allowed in that room right of us.

Speaker 9 (40:34):
I was shocked. We wouldn't have sit in that room anyway. Fantastic.

Speaker 1 (40:40):
Wow, all right, Laurie, thank you appreciate that each you
recognize that they're weird.

Speaker 2 (40:45):
They they hung on for over an hour. They were
not they were going to go in there and vote
and start that club. And why would anyone ever to
your question to Carroll, aren't the numbers good? Isn't more
participation good Heaven forbid they be conservative, they're blocking that conservative.
We don't want conservatives in the in the Women's Republican
Club of Salt Lake. Heaven forbid. No that is I mean. So,

(41:07):
I just find that to be a moment that we
we should we should talk about because I think that
it's it's it's it's it's this country in a nutshell,
and it's happening here in Utah's You're not gonna hear
this around the country, but this is what's going on
around the country. Is this moment where this guy who's
calling himself a woman and when you listen to him,
he is a man. Uh and he's a big man,

(41:29):
and he is stopping women physically, stopping women from being
able to come in and participate and join a Republican
women's club. I its just again, I keep saying it
out loud, and it sounds funny to say because it
sounds so absurd.

Speaker 1 (41:42):
It's all right, mar your calls and comments coming up
here on the Rod and Greg Show in Utah's Talk
Radio one O five nine k n RS here on
Utah's Talk Radio one O five nine k and R
as talking about a couple of things. The dust up
among some conservative women today. Boy did they run into
a buzz song trying to get into a meeting and
change things. We'll talk about that. Also, Donald Trump, person

(42:03):
of the Year for Time Magazine. Greatest political comeback in
American history? How did he make it happen? We're getting
your thoughts on that as well.

Speaker 2 (42:12):
So joining us on the program is someone that was
in attendance of this Women's Republican Club of Salt Lake
meeting and all the hubbub and all the things that
went on. The Republican National Committee RUT they have a
National Committee man and a National Committee woman, two that
are elected by Republicans in the respective states, and they
are from the fifty states. They get together for these

(42:34):
RNC conferences. Kim Coleman, a former colleague of mine in
the State House of Representatives, is Utah's Republican National Committee woman,
and she was in attendance today or trying to be
in attendance today at this club meeting. Kim, welcome to
the program, and please share with us just some of
your observations what happened today. There's some irony there I

(42:57):
want to explore, but tell us what you saw on
what happened.

Speaker 15 (43:02):
Well, so I did get inside of the twilight zone
room of the people who were allowed to get in.
But you know, as the National Committee woman, I'm very
interested in having women more active. And we have this
club with an amazing birthday of one hundred and twenty

(43:22):
five years. You know, this week we sent Martha Hughes Cannon.
You know, we really have this rich, long history of
Republican women and women in this country in politics. And yeah,
we hit up against this roadblock today. We don't even
know who was behind the curtain saying you people can't join,

(43:44):
you can't come in the room, you can't pay dues.
Today people who had paid dues previously were having their
dues refunded, and the people at the door were saying,
now you're not a member because we.

Speaker 9 (43:58):
Refunded your dukes.

Speaker 15 (44:00):
It really was crazy and just such good women, you know,
over one hundred women from all walks of life and
the whole kind of span of ideology on the Republican side,
you know, just showed up to say we we want
to associate with other Republican women and let's do some
good for our county.

Speaker 9 (44:20):
So so let me ask you this.

Speaker 2 (44:24):
This is going to test your pronouns or your use
of them. I'm looking at a picture from that meeting
of someone who is dressed like a woman, but in
the recording you can hear it's clearly a man. He
is a man, He's a big man. And in the
video I'm watching, it looks like he's physically blocking the
door and trying to rebuff and turn away the women
that wanted to attend and participate in this in this meeting.

(44:47):
Did you see that? Is it? Is it true that
in one day, Utah can celebrate dark doctor Martha Hughes
Cannon as the first female state senator, as a physician
and a suffragist who fought for the right to vote,
and we have a man a day later or whenever
telling women they got to get out of this meeting
and they have no business participating in a women's republican

(45:09):
women's republican club. Did you see that?

Speaker 9 (45:13):
I saw that.

Speaker 15 (45:14):
I had to struggle to get in and out of
the room. They blockaded the blockies. Probably she was wrong,
but did lock the door with a table, and so
you had to get past the table and then passed
this person. And yeah, there definitely there was some irony
felt in that, but I mean bigger things and more

(45:37):
meaningful things were happening in this meeting, and really organizing
a large group of women in our.

Speaker 9 (45:43):
County to take our county back.

Speaker 15 (45:45):
And yeah, so that was not lost, right.

Speaker 2 (45:51):
Thank you.

Speaker 1 (45:52):
Let's go back to the phones. Chris Kimball of Salt
Lake was also in that meeting today. Oh, she's joining
us on our newsmaker line. Chris, give us your take
as to what you saw happened today.

Speaker 10 (46:02):
Hi, Hey, happy to be on. I was one of
the paid members, so I was allowed access into the
sequestered room there at the restaurant, so I was in there,
and yes, we had to listen to Jerry read off
this parliamentarian report refused to take well be that as

(46:24):
it made the questions emotions. But what finally happened is
we had an opportunity to make emotion to elect a chair, sorry,
to elect a treasure and I happened to receive the vote.
I think it was unanimous to become the treasurer of
that organization. And based on all the ambiguity that has

(46:47):
that you've heard about, where we've been told people can
show up and make payment that day and be part
of that organization. We passed. I made a motion to
allow anyone that had come to the meeting that day
to have access to the meeting so that they could
join us and pay their dues that day and participate
in the meeting. And that's what we did. So it

(47:10):
allowed all of these women who gather to show up
and participate.

Speaker 2 (47:14):
I think that's an important part, and congratulations for a
hard fought victory in doing that. What doesn't pass the
smell test for me and what I think needs to
be called out. This is from my perspective. I don't
know an organization. I don't know a club that isn't
interesting in building its membership. I don't think a club
of one person or two people is a stronger club
than a club of one hundred people. If you have

(47:35):
people being turned away from wanting to join and to participate,
it isn't the size of the club they're worried about.
They don't want what What is it that they did
not want to be a part of the Women's Republican
Club that they were rebuffing. Just an avalanche of interest
and people that wanted to pay dues and be a
part of it. What was it that was so offensive

(47:57):
to those that wanted to keep it small and keepnticipation out.

Speaker 10 (48:02):
Well, there was an election being held to put in
new party leadership for that particular club. And I think
there's whenever you see this kind of behavior, it reeks
of control. There's just individuals that want to control because
the club has been floundering. It's been very small, it's
been very inactive. They show up, the president is that

(48:25):
there all the time, but they show up and just
meet and have lunch and sometimes their membership has gone
down to ten people. And this is and as Kim
mentioned earlier, this is a historic club, the oldest in America,
and so we should be thrilled that we have members
of over one hundred now in that club. I mean,

(48:48):
they should all be cheering us on.

Speaker 2 (48:51):
All right, Kim, thank you, congratulations and thank you for
getting involved in engaging. I think that when you see
that kind of pushback Rod, that means something goods happen.
There's always opposition when you see something like that. So
hats off to the women of this, the Republican women
of this of Salt Lake that said we're not letting
that happen. So they fought this one. All right.

Speaker 1 (49:11):
More coming up on the Rod and Greg Show and
Utah's Talk Radio one oh five nine k n RS.

Speaker 2 (49:16):
Got a bunch of topics, actually two topics we're talking
about today. The madness at the at the Women's Republican
Club of Salt Lake. But justice prevailed at the end
of the day, folks, So you know the good guys one,
good good gals one. And then we're talking about the
President Trump, a Man of the Year Time magazine and
considered the greatest political comeback in history, talking about what

(49:38):
was it that helped What was it that you think
was the key to him making this grand comeback? A
couple questions for you to consider and to share your
your feelings about.

Speaker 1 (49:46):
Eight eight eight five seven eight zero one zero or
on your cell phone to help pound two to fifty
and say hey, Rod, back to the phones we go.
Let's hear from Steve and Lighton, who's been waiting patiently. Steve,
how are you thanks for joining us?

Speaker 17 (49:59):
Pretty good?

Speaker 13 (50:00):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (50:00):
I think you want it with three little words, Okay.

Speaker 6 (50:06):
Tell you that handed him a and Biden handed him
a golden base. Today he opened up drilling rights into
an Wark.

Speaker 1 (50:16):
Yeah he did. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you're right, Steve. I
think it was people look at American energy knowing how
much they impact the price of almost everything, I mean
everything out there, and I think people people want to
feel that America has energy independence. We had it with him,
they want to have it again.

Speaker 2 (50:34):
Yep, Saja, just punt up your tank here. It adds
to the cost of deliveries, adds the cost of everything.
Energy costs are either a huge burden or they can
also help lower costs. And so that's it. That is
I agree with Steve all the way. Let's go back
to the phones. Let's go to Delane. Delane, thank you
for holding, thank you for calling the Rod and Greg
show what say you?

Speaker 9 (50:55):
Thank you so much. I really appreciate it.

Speaker 18 (50:58):
I am one of the women who Republicans women. I've
been a Republican for many years, and I was one
that was banished from the room because I have been
a member of the Federation Women's Federation before, but I
lent my membership laps because the last quite a few
meetings I've been to it didn't really feel like Republican
and so I was really excited about having new leadership.

(51:20):
But I just want to say we had so much
fun by us. It was one of the most It
was such a fun Christmas party. All these women were
out there. We all have so much in common. We
love the Lord, we love liberty, we know who the
author of liberty is, Jesus Christ, and we just celebrated
with each other and just had such a great time,

(51:42):
wonderful conversations and really just had a great time, not
exchanging any gifts, but really celebrating Christmas together. So we
had a wonderful time. We didn't really have the stress
of those you know, Carolin and Chris that were inside.
We just could just celebrate.

Speaker 3 (51:58):
So we had a great time.

Speaker 2 (52:00):
Wait, what about you cut it off? I wanted to
know about this brute that was at the door. I mean,
I wonder if that would interrupt the joy, because I mean,
this guy looks like he's mean.

Speaker 1 (52:09):
You've heard the phrase silent coup. Yeah, I think that's
what they staged to. I had enough, man, silent coup.
All right back to the phones. Kathleen Anderson, former president
of the Women's Republican Club, joining us on our Newsmaker
line right now to share her thoughts about what happened.

Speaker 2 (52:24):
Kathleen, thanks for joining us.

Speaker 17 (52:27):
Hi, thank you so much. I don't think I'm as
nice as the three people who've spoken about this before me,
because I got very angry when I tried to enter
that room today and was not allowed to get past
the doorway or that table by a man in a dress.

Speaker 2 (52:44):
Yes, this is what people have been uncomfortable talking about, Kathleen,
but something I think it needs to be. We need
to be uncomfortable about this conversation, but still have it.
Thank you for bringing it up.

Speaker 17 (52:54):
I'm not uncomfortable about it. It was a man wearing
woman face who is telling me that I could not
insure even though I provided proof that I had paid
my dues for not just twenty twenty four but also
for twenty twenty five, and he threatened to call the
police on me to have me physically removed. I was

(53:15):
very upset, and we had over one hundred women, as
you've heard, who were barricaded from entering the room where
this meeting for these elections was to take place. And
as a former president of the club, I know exactly
what the rules are regarding membership. You need to be
a Republican and you need to pay the thirty five
dollars in dues. There is no deadline, there is no

(53:39):
renewal deadline. Once those dues are paid, you are a
full fledged member with the rights to vote, and that
was not allowed today. So it was blatants disenfranchisement. And
to have that happen the day after the Martha Hughes
Cannon dedication in the Capitol in Washington, d C. We're

(54:02):
celebrating a woman who pushed forward the rights of women
to vote and to participate in government in the state.
And here we are, just over one hundred years later,
a man in address is telling a hundred of us
that we can't enter the room to a women's Republican
Club meeting to participate. It made me angry at first.

(54:23):
On the way home, as I ruminated over it, it
made me extremely sad. And just so you know, three
men huddled in that room. One was a male parliamentarian,
one was the man in the dress, and one was
a man in a baseball cap. Those three men came
to an agreement or a resolution or something for a

(54:47):
Women's Republican Club event to move forward. And everything about
that to me is wrong. I agree nothing, it's nothing
to celebrate I didn't feel a Christmas spirit. I felt
like we have just rolled back the hands of time
on women's participation, and not just government, but in a

(55:09):
political private organization.

Speaker 2 (55:12):
Yeah, you know, and you were the former president of
this organization with your dues all paid up, and so
there's no no.

Speaker 17 (55:19):
No, I will accept a little responsibility for allowing my
membership and involvement to lapse, because Greg, you personally know me.
You know who I am, you know what my history
is in the party, and I have fought in the
trenches alongside you and others for decades. And I stepped
away for a few years, you know, past the baton,

(55:40):
kind of a self imposed term limit, because it does
take a toll on you after a while to be
that involved day in, day out. And I did not
know that the club had dwindled like it had. I
did not know that the rains had been turned over
to a man and women face. I did not know

(56:01):
those things were happening. But I just knew that once
she paid your dues, which I paid several days ago
to Laurie Stringham, who is the current but outgoing president
of this club, once those dues are paid, you're a
member with full voting rights. That is all you have
to do. And I'm also a former president of the
Utah Federation of Republican Women, which is a subsidiary of

(56:24):
the National Federation of Republican Women. And to think that
this is taking place in Utah, in Salt Lake City, Utah,
is disheartening at best. But it just goes to show
you what happens when we aren't paying attention, when we
aren't involved, what can prevail when good men and women

(56:46):
do nothing.

Speaker 2 (56:47):
Yeah, good Kathleen. I do know Kathleen. And she and
when I said that she had our dues paid ahead
of time before arriving at that meeting, that she's been
a citizen soldier for a long time. And so again
someone you would welcome coming back and getting re engaged.
And I think it's a good lesson to be learned
that if we just sit back and do nothing, the

(57:09):
consequences are are dire more.

Speaker 1 (57:11):
Coming up on the Roden Gregg Show and Utah's Talk
Radio one oh five nine Gay Nrs Thursday, still to
come our number three and your chance.

Speaker 2 (57:20):
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Didn't want to forget that today, that's right what time
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of you. Boy, I'm telling you you wait, you hear
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the song itself. You are just going to be so
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Speaker 1 (57:38):
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I think you dramatic reading Keith Urban songs would be
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Speaker 1 (57:53):
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Speaker 2 (58:02):
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Speaker 9 (58:04):
No?

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That's the only thing in my on my to do list.
That's the book I have. That's all I'm going out.

Speaker 1 (58:17):
Well, we've got a jam packed dower coming your way,
have you. You know we reached out yesterday because of
this this bizarre story Greg about the drones over New
Jersey in the northeast. Yes, someone counted the other night
one hundred and forty five of those in the air
at the time.

Speaker 2 (58:32):
It's pretty amazing.

Speaker 1 (58:34):
And we reached out and said, is there you know,
maybe there's someone in our audience who is an expert
when it comes to drones. Well, guess what we found one.
He'll be joining us here in a few minutes to
talk about drones what they can and cannot do. It's
pretty amazing.

Speaker 2 (58:46):
Well, it's very timely too, because what the statement's coming
out today is that they can't confirm anything. No, they're
not even confirming that what the eyewitnesses are saying they're
seeing that, they won't even confirm that that's the case.
And so yeah, I think there's just it's it's just
unnerving to have something like that where you can see
it in this day and age, where you can take,

(59:07):
you film things, you can put on the internet, you
can show everyone what's going on, and then we don't know.
Remember we had a Chinese surveillance balloon just leisurely float
across the United States. Hey, you know, just nothing to
see here, folks, move along, we'll just wait till get
see Atlantic and then we'll shoot it down. I just
think it should be more serious than that. And I'm

(59:29):
not the guy you know in the military. I'm just
the guy in the cheap seats. I cannot believe these
are the kinds of responses to what we're hearing about.

Speaker 1 (59:37):
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Speaker 2 (59:55):
Or would you like me? I'll explain it and then
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(01:00:15):
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Speaker 1 (01:00:25):
July eighteenth, eighteen out at the Utah First Credit Union Amphitheater.
I've mentioned this couple of times. I've seen him in
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the concert all they have, And let me tell you what,
he does a great job if you ever get a chance. Now,
I know you don't go to Vegas very much. Well,
yeah you do. You go to Vegas quite often.

Speaker 2 (01:00:46):
Not quite often. I've been, I've been.

Speaker 1 (01:00:48):
But I say that the concerts I've seen down there
have always been at Caesars and the theater there holds
about three to five thousand people. Great place to say.
I've seen Urban, I've seen Rod Stewart, I've seen Butt
and Brooks and Dunn.

Speaker 2 (01:01:02):
They're great. Look I like a lot of different music.
I love rock, I love I love hip hop. Bart
I'm gonna get totally mocked for this, but I saw
that for winding to go to this concert. But I
saw that Mariah Carey was playing down there. But it's
all sold out, and you'd see I'd see I like Maria.
Can you make fun of me if I wanted to
go see Taylor Swift? Yes, being a Swifties totally. I'm
old school. I like Mariah Carey. You like this swifty
stuff that's terrible, But I would, I would, I would

(01:01:25):
see that. But that concerts all sold out?

Speaker 1 (01:01:26):
Oh wow, sorry about that. Yeah, all right, here's the song. No,
we won't tell you the name of a song. You
have to identify that you have this based on dramatically
read the lyrics.

Speaker 2 (01:01:36):
Are you ready for the dramatic reading of the lyrics? Yes,
all right.

Speaker 1 (01:01:39):
Here we go over at the lake down by the river.
You can feel it start to rise. Want to jump
in my car, go wherever you are because I.

Speaker 2 (01:01:50):
Need you by my side? Very very Was that dramatic
enough and romantic? That was very romantic? Yes, whoever's going
to get in the drive that car? That's that's that's
some sweetness.

Speaker 1 (01:02:03):
Here it is again over at the lake down by
the river. You can feel it start to rise. Want
to jump in my car. Go wherever you are because I.

Speaker 2 (01:02:13):
Need you by my side. Oh, lakes, rivers doesn't matter.
Get a car, you get a body of water. Look out.

Speaker 1 (01:02:22):
All right, Now here's the road they call eight eight
eight five seven eight zero one zero eight eight eight
five seven o eight zero one zero. If you can
correctly identify the song that goes with those lyrics, you've
get yourself to tickets and tomorrow, Greg are final chance.
No more tickets after that? Oh really yeah tomorrow? Well
you think we're a giveaway ticket? Yes, shop crying out loud.

Speaker 2 (01:02:44):
Oh, it's it's quite the it's all the rage. I'm
telling you, the response we get from listeners, I mean
clear fans. Their line lines are blowing up right now.

Speaker 1 (01:02:56):
Eight eight eight five seven eight zero one zero. We'll
tell you the name of the winter coming. Oh. One
thing we haven't touched on today, Greg, but I did
want to bring up. Isn't this amazing that the New
York Times, of all places, Greg is finally telling the
truth about Joe Biden's border failures. They have finally admitted

(01:03:16):
that the migrant surge in this country has never been
as large as it has been under Joe Biden.

Speaker 2 (01:03:24):
You know that's that's that's like saying, well, you know what,
the sun rise in the east and we're just gonna
go ahead and let you know. I mean again, it's
isn't it magnanimous of anyone to tell us what our
eyes have been seeing and what we are the senses
that we have our site, smell, you know, hearing, feeling,
everything we have that's confirmed. What we're saying that we've
been told doesn't exist or isn't true actually has been

(01:03:47):
the case.

Speaker 1 (01:03:48):
Yeah, yeah, Well, the story is that this a quote
from the Times. The immigration surge of the past few
years has been the largest in US history. The New
York Times admitted after the nation's voters read of course
the Democrats wealth shifting migration policy. In the piece, it
talks about the number, and it's like nearly eight million people,

(01:04:09):
eight to ten million people, right. Anyways, that's a faster
pace of arrivals than during any other period on record,
including the peak years of Ellis Island traffic when millions
of Europeans came to the United States. Even after taking
into account today's larger US population, the recent surge is

(01:04:29):
the most rapid since at least eighteen fifty.

Speaker 2 (01:04:33):
And that's what they're willing to document. We full well
know there's more numbers coming in than that those numbers there.
And then here's the other part, this whole concept of
immigrant illegal immigration and what its impact is to America.
It was a what I would call a luxury issue
if you were only talking about it in theory. It
is now a kitchen table issue because every state is

(01:04:54):
a border state now with ngngos moving people in throughout
all these fifty states, and now people are feeling it.
I've heard people that are dying the world. Democrats say
that they didn't understand this immigration issue until they saw
Governor Abbot busting them to a blue seas and then
all of a sudden they had to deal with it,
and they were going, wow, wait a minute, this is
This isn't just a bunch of racists and border states

(01:05:15):
saying this this, this actually is impacting us. And I
think when people when it became a kitchen table issue,
that's when this issue completely changed and the American people,
without regard to party, said, nah, this isn't working. Is
there's no trajectory positive one for what we're living through.

Speaker 1 (01:05:31):
Wasn't that an amazing move by Governor Abbot down in
Texas saying you want you want to feel and see
what we're going through every day in Texas. You take
some of these immigrants.

Speaker 2 (01:05:41):
It's a beautiful way to help someone feel some empathy
about what's going on. But I think also by necessity,
they physically couldn't accommodate. They had to do something.

Speaker 1 (01:05:50):
Yeah, they couldn't handle them anymore. So The New York
Times finally telling the truth about Joe Biden's border failures.
All right, more coming up on the Roden Great Show
right here on you Ta's Talk Radio one O five
nine k n rs. Was the name Mike Denny? I
think it was Mike who won the tickets to uh
Keith Urban.

Speaker 2 (01:06:08):
Yeah, Mike, so congratulations, Mike, good job, Mike, good job.
Did you say the name of the song? Oh? Should? I?
You had to ask me that one. I wasn't ready.
I didn't know I did. Name of the song was
long Hot Summer, Long Hot Summer. Yeah. Well, one more
song and lyrics to give away tomorrow, Okay, one more,
one more, just one more tomorrow, all right.

Speaker 1 (01:06:29):
The a story that is getting so much attention, of course,
the invasion of the drones in New Jersey and New York.
They've been there for several days now, and the frustration
that I think a lot of state and local officials
are having greg they aren't getting any answers from the
US Defense Department Nope, as to what is going on.

Speaker 2 (01:06:50):
And I've heard you've heard this story is like they're
as big as a Volkswagen bug up in the air.
Or that they got it. They're as loud as a
as a motorcycle, which means they be huge, and all
the different case abilities that these drones could do. And
and then some people say it could be a hobbyist
who's just really really into drones, but really it's but

(01:07:10):
observations from a member of Congress from New Jersey says
that they seem to be far too advanced to be
a hobbyist's drones. But again, you know what I know
about drones, zilch Ok. I couldn't. I wouldn't know a
drone if I was sitting next to it. Okay, I
don't even know what a drone. I've just you know,
I've watched some movies. I think that's about the extent
of my drone expertise. So it is highly appreciated for

(01:07:34):
me to have someone like a good listener. We have
the greatest, smartest listening audience in all the land who
might be able to fill us in. Well.

Speaker 1 (01:07:40):
His name is James Nelson. He is a drone training
manager joining us on our newsmaker line this afternoon. Jace,
what's the name of the company that you can work for?

Speaker 2 (01:07:48):
Jason, I worked for r M us. We're based in Centerville.

Speaker 1 (01:07:53):
All right, tell you know, are we reading too much
into this? Jason's You've seen this STORYE looked at what
may be going on. What's your take on what may
be happening, especially in the northeast.

Speaker 14 (01:08:04):
Sure, so a couple of things. There's been a lot of.

Speaker 2 (01:08:10):
A lot of information.

Speaker 3 (01:08:11):
I think most of it not very good on what's
going on.

Speaker 14 (01:08:15):
And part of my reaching out is I want to
dispel some rumors and hopefully save some listeners a lot
of trouble. But as it kind of seems here, there's
a few things that are kind of an issue when
it comes to these reports. You know, if you get
on and you can get on YouTube or anything else
and search for a video and search for New Jersey drones.

(01:08:38):
I don't think it's a coincidence that pretty much all
of these are happening at night and people see lights.

Speaker 2 (01:08:43):
In the sky, and now this is.

Speaker 3 (01:08:46):
In everybody's head.

Speaker 14 (01:08:47):
It's you know, there was a big foot sighting in Ogden,
Suddenly we'd get ten thousand reports of bigfoot, right, Yeah. So,
and it's not that there can't be legitimate claims or
something like that, but it does seem to be on
everybody's lips. And I'll just say this, if if somebody
is being nefarious and trying to have a secretive operation,

(01:09:07):
they're not doing a very good job of it.

Speaker 3 (01:09:10):
Leaving their navigation.

Speaker 2 (01:09:11):
Lights on at night, that kind of thing. That seems
a little bit suspect. But Jase, here's my question. It
seems like they don't. They don't feel like they have
to be very clandestine, that no one could tell you
anything about them even when they're not. There was a story,
and tell me the story is not true just from
the details, if you know, if if you could one
of the I think it was a whether it was

(01:09:33):
a State Highway Patrol helicopter where some law enforcement helicopter
in New Jersey was reporting that they were above one
of these drones and could see those lights, but then
those lights turned off it and then it left from
underneath the helicopter. Is that is that is there some
inconsistencies with a story like that that that makes it

(01:09:53):
not true.

Speaker 14 (01:09:55):
Not necessarily, It's absolutely possible that some that one could
have been flying over something of reported seeing it or.

Speaker 2 (01:10:04):
Something to that effect.

Speaker 3 (01:10:05):
I mean, we we are urm us.

Speaker 14 (01:10:07):
What we do is we work with commercial and enterprise operators,
lots of public safety wide are and power line inspection
and stuff. Right, some of these drones we have, you know.

Speaker 3 (01:10:17):
We've had them where they have a radius that you
can't reach your arms around them. I mean it's you know,
they're they're a good four feet across where it's just
a large aircraft to carry a payload. There's various reasons
for that, but it's it's not abnormal to have a
fairly large drone. Just because something is large doesn't necessarily

(01:10:40):
mean it's nefarious. There's there's a lot of variety of
drone hardware available, and I mean we have drones. I
have drones all most popular manufacturing. You can turn off
the navigation lights. It's built into the flight application. So again,
not not terribly common. It sounds at the very least

(01:11:03):
that maybe someone is bending the rules or breaking regulation
at the very least, but.

Speaker 2 (01:11:10):
You know, kind of this idea.

Speaker 3 (01:11:11):
You know, we've heard representatives from back east saying, well,
there's an Irate there's a mother ship out floating in
the Atlantic and they're sending drones over New Jersey. I mean,
Iran can't launch missiles from their own country and not
hit their own people while they're trying to hit Israel.
So you know that idea is pretty far fetched.

Speaker 1 (01:11:31):
Let me ask you this, James. I mean, here's a
wackle idea. Could it be some club of drone people
who just say, let's mess with their heads a little
bit and put them all up at once one night?

Speaker 2 (01:11:41):
I mean, could that? Could that?

Speaker 1 (01:11:42):
Could that be one of the scenarios to consider?

Speaker 19 (01:11:45):
James, Absolutely, there's a lot of potential scenarios where this
is involved. I can tell you yes, it could absolutelytely
be some shenanigans, just some idiots out.

Speaker 3 (01:11:56):
There cause of trouble, the other the other thing that's
that's that is possible. And I mean we work with
agencies and public safety agencies all over the country, and
you know, we work with them and we've been involved
with the scenarios and their planning and their SOPs. And
you know, there can be an agency that has a dozen,

(01:12:19):
half a dozen, or a dozen drones within their program.
And if you have a swamp team and they have
a barricade situation with someone locked in a house, guarantee
you if you're standing outside and you look over there,
there's going to be three four three or four drones
all within the same airspace operating to help public safety
mitigate this situation. So the idea that multiple drones can

(01:12:41):
be operating in an airspace for some type of legitimate
operation is absolutely possible.

Speaker 2 (01:12:46):
So let me ask you this, this is a little
more technical. I had heard that the China is has
advanced technology when it comes to drones manufacturing of Jones
drones that the United States isn't up to par in
your space that you're working in. Are there American manufacturers
and are drones competitive those that come from the United States?
Or is that something that actually we should take pause about,

(01:13:09):
is that the best drones might be those made from China.
How does that work? How long do we have I
guess not long enough. Star a year ago.

Speaker 3 (01:13:20):
We could go on this, We could go on this
for a very long time. The very short answer right
now is that even the stuff that's available from Chinese manufacturers,
I mean the elephant in the room as dji, they
lead the market by far.

Speaker 2 (01:13:38):
We are.

Speaker 3 (01:13:40):
Estimates really to really catch up to what they are
capable of and stuff that you can just go by
a costco Right now, we're five ten years behind, easily
easily five or ten years.

Speaker 2 (01:13:52):
Behind, Jason, I hate that.

Speaker 15 (01:13:54):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:13:54):
Another question, how sophisticated have these drones become that the
average person can even learn to use?

Speaker 3 (01:14:04):
Now that that really depends on your perspective. I would
say that for the average person to say that, it
would be very but you know, let's qualify that just
that phrase just a little bit. The drones that are
capable right now, they do have certain types of recognition technology.

(01:14:25):
This is very useful for like law enforcement and that
kind of stuff where or take a take a like
an electrical line inspection. There are drones where it can
record your mission. You do it, you do a live
mission recording. It saves that data. So if I have
a tower that I need to that I need to
inspect every three months, I can do that mission at

(01:14:47):
one time. It will record the telemetry, the location, the
orientation of the drone, the camera, the gimbal, my camera settings,
and recreate that mission over and over and over again.
And really it sounds very impressive, but it's actually really
quite simple. All it's doing is getting a compass heading
and a GPS location and pointing it in a certain direction.

(01:15:11):
It's saying snap a photo, you know, so it sounds
very impressive, and it absolutely is. However, you know, when
you break it down like that, it's really actually not
that complex when you really break it down.

Speaker 2 (01:15:26):
Jase, I want to thank you for a listening to
the program. We appreciate having a good listener listening and
then being able to share your expertise on drones and
what's going on out there. I just want to believe
that this is making me a lot of ado about nothing.
I don't want to believe that that foreign, foreign born
drones can just run around Trump's golf course and our
military bases and our reservoirs and everything else. I just

(01:15:48):
I hate that, you know, I hate the thought. So
thank you for sharing your expertise.

Speaker 1 (01:15:53):
And Jase, if we get to the bottom of this,
we may tap into your expertise again, get your analysis
as to what exactly happened.

Speaker 2 (01:16:00):
If is alright with you.

Speaker 3 (01:16:01):
Jason, yeah, absolutely, please reach out.

Speaker 2 (01:16:04):
And that's why I'm here.

Speaker 3 (01:16:05):
And I'll just say, as a closer for everybody out
there who's ever said to themselves, if there was a
drone flying over my house, I got a good twelve gage,
don't do it. It's against federal regulation, and you will
go to federal prison. Wow, there's a lot of misconceptions.
I think we should continue this conversation. Please reach out
to me because I want to do everybody a favor.

Speaker 2 (01:16:23):
I think I might have suggested this, so I'll stop
saying that. Yeah, you shouldn't have said that. Thank you.

Speaker 1 (01:16:29):
Jason Jones enjoining us, so I have someone on the
show who actually knows what they're talking about.

Speaker 2 (01:16:34):
Yes, that is good. All right, Well we did say
China's ahead of us on this stuff, which is kind
of fright to hate that boy.

Speaker 1 (01:16:40):
Coming up, Rod and Greg on Talk Radio one oh
five nine knrs.

Speaker 2 (01:16:44):
I'm Rod Arkent, I'm citizen Greg Hughes. Well, uh, Google
is going the bud light route. Yeah. They just don't learn,
do they, Greg. No, it's the worst commercial. Showed it
to me. It's the worst commercial in the world. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:16:58):
Well, Google is being accused of going woke with a
new Christmas advertisement featuring a non binary beauty influencer. The
online ad for Google Shopping showcases TikTok stars Cyrus Vessy
searching for skincare products with the Google service.

Speaker 2 (01:17:16):
Here it is.

Speaker 16 (01:17:16):
It's so try this winter ginas, is not it? Especially
when I have so many holiday looks to pull off. Thankfully,
I know just the thing, Andison's stocking nearby. Hydrated skin
is a gift to everyone. No wrapping needed. Happy Holidays
to me, folks.

Speaker 2 (01:17:40):
Yeah, you gotta see because the voice might shape, might
confuse you that you're listening to a female, but you're not.
But let me just like combine two stories. We were
talking earlier about the hubbub at the you know, the
women the Women's Republican Club of Salt Lake and this
guy that's now wanting to be a woman. But it's
a guy, very husky, very big. You can't get you

(01:18:01):
couldn't get past h If this Google uh spokesperson was
at that door, those women would have mowed that kid over. Yeah,
that guy had no shot. He's he has to lay
down to take a shower. That guy, he's so skinny.

Speaker 1 (01:18:13):
Well, Google act joining us right now is Joe Brenza.
He is a political director or American Principal Project Joe.
We just played that ad. What's your take on it?

Speaker 13 (01:18:22):
I think and it is part of it because I
think we're starting to see him move away from that,
especially after the disasters that targeted Budweiser had with their wokeness.
But I do think that Google kind of was an
American company for a long time and really isn't represented
either on its board and with shareholders buy Americans anymore,
seeing itself as more of a global company. I think

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this is really thumbing their nose at normal, everyday Americans.
And this ad would have been perfectly fine had it
been a woman for a makeup product. But they want
to shove this trans woke nonsense down our throats because
there's they think there's nothing we can do about it.
And I really hate that for the people. And I

(01:19:04):
think it's time maybe the Anti Trust Division looked at
Google and and maybe decided to break it up a bit.

Speaker 2 (01:19:11):
So, Joe, we got President Elect Trump on the front
page of Time Magazine's Man of the Year. Times are changing.
We've seen what's happened to bud Light. Their market share
still hasn't recovered. As you've mentioned, Google, Jaguar, these companies
were these were these just post production schedules where they
didn't get the memo. They didn't see that the company's
moving away from this or are they trying to? Are

(01:19:35):
they the last stand? Are they fighting back? And they're
just not going to allow. They want this, they want
this fight, they want to have this transgender advertising campaign
to push back against what they're seeing nationally happen in
terms of change of sentiment.

Speaker 13 (01:19:49):
Well, I think if it's the second that the shareholders
should be furious, because, I mean, this is this is
not a this is not a way in which that
you're going to create to expand market share and stell product.
It's it's it's kind of insane. I do think there's
something to what you're saying about. Maybe we were just
on auto pilot and they thought that the great hope

(01:20:10):
of the left to Kamala Harris, was going to prevail
in November, and they really didn't understand the mood of
this country. And I think that goes to a greater
point that a lot of people say. Now you see
on social media you go woke and you go broke,
and I've seen, I've seen. I see no reason that
Jack wuire And is not going to suffer from this.

(01:20:32):
The problem with Google is it's so ubiquitous in our lives.
I mean, my I got a Google email, There's Google
web browser. It's just it feels like it's everywhere in
your life. And so I I do hope that they
are alternatives to this, or that Google radically changes course,
because I mean, this is this is an outrageous affront
to normal, everyday Americans. I don't think they want to

(01:20:54):
see it.

Speaker 1 (01:20:55):
Joe, do you think they're operating under that what is
it the old phrase no news is bad news? As
long as I get your name right, the oprating under that?

Speaker 2 (01:21:02):
Maybe?

Speaker 9 (01:21:04):
Yeah?

Speaker 13 (01:21:04):
I mean I think that that Google is so powerful
at this point that they feel like they can do
whatever they want. And I think maybe the old Republican Party,
the pre Donald Trump Republican Party, would have said, look,
it's a free market, and you know, you can do
whatever you want as long as you're not hurting anybody.
So you know, just let the market forces decide, and
if you don't want to do business with Google, pick

(01:21:25):
another company. But this, this is a massive organization that
you'll forgive me for reminding you your your listeners of
the scandal they had where they were intentionally sending RNC
emails to spam while helping advanced Democrats, not to go
with all the search results and everything else that Google does. So,

(01:21:46):
I mean, this one ad encapsulates their just general discuss
with normal everyday Americans and the Republican Party lit RGE.
It's a much larger problem. And I think Google has
enjoyed tremendous deference from US for a long time, and
I think it should end.

Speaker 2 (01:22:03):
So the saying go woc broke is one hundred percent true,
and we're seeing it. They even change the peril at
at places like Target. I think that they're Walmart. They're
trying to recoil from some of these things they've done.
But just look, let's look forward about three years from
now President Trump's uh, well within his administration. Uh, I
think that you're going to see these trends where people

(01:22:24):
are going to finally call out DEI and want to
protect women in sports, all these different things. What do
you see three years from now? Are we just is
this an Is this a speed bump on the way
to more of what Google's doing and Jaguars doing? Or
do you think that there is going to be a
shift here uh in this country in terms of sentiment
towards this kind of agenda.

Speaker 13 (01:22:46):
Yeah, I think it's gonna It's going to take political
will and execution, and I believe that President Trump is
putting a team together, and it starts at the very
top with the selection of now Vice President elect Vance.
What an awesome thing to be able to say. I
think this entire team that President Trump's going to put
together is going to help shape the culture a bit.
At app we believe that politics is actually upstream from

(01:23:10):
culture and is able to affect what happens because politics
is such an integral part of our everyday lives now,
maybe to the detriment of the country, but unfortunately that's
the world we live in. I do think that we're
going to be able to make strides, but it has
to be a concerted effort. You're not going to be
able to go to sleep in the wheel in this
or companies like Target, Companies like Google are going to say,

(01:23:32):
or Jaguar if they don't feel the punishment, if their
shareholders don't feel the punishment for this nonsense being thrust
in our faith, they're going to keep going because they're
going to see that as an affirmative, as an affirmative
positive review of their actions. And so there have to
be legitimate consequences for this kind of a joe.

Speaker 1 (01:23:51):
We saw pushback against bud Light, we saw pushback against Target.
How do we push back against Google. I mean, they
are so massive, and as you mentioned, you is, how
do you push back against Google?

Speaker 13 (01:24:03):
Well, look, I think it. I think it, you know.
And I mentioned these other issues with Google because I
think that the general conservative approach pre President Trump was
it's a free market. So I do think that. And
Gail Slater, who was just appointed by President Trump or
will be appointed by President Trump to be the Anti

(01:24:24):
Trust Division in the Department of Justice, I think people
like that need to look at these massive corporations who
are not serving in the best interest of Americans and
who are thumbing their nose at them culturally. I think
that there needs to be real power behind it. And
I'm not just saying it because they made mads that
I don't like. I'm saying it because they control large
swaths of our search engine results, which in fluence elections.

(01:24:46):
We know that from the Hunter Biden stuff and all that,
and and they absolutely operate completely unchecked, and we you know,
they Google was an American company. It made a lot
of sense for us to demonstrate a lot of difference
to them. They don't really act like an American company anymore,
you know, they refuse to work with the Department of
Defense a few years ago because of moral qualms. While

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they're out there trying to get contracts with the CCP,
I think that's garbage, and frankly, I don't think they
deserve the difference that they've been shown by a reasonable
American people who just wants to have a better lie.

Speaker 1 (01:25:22):
Joe Porenza. He is with the American Principles Project. More
coming up on the Rod and Greg Show. You don't
forget tomorrow. It is thank Rowd and Greg. It's Friday.
You believe that we're at the end of another week.
That's right, love and right along, love and love and
love it. Things in Florida are doing are going pretty well.
Would you agree disagree with me on that.

Speaker 2 (01:25:41):
Things are going well in Florida? Oh? Yes, I mean
Florida's rock and rolling right, Yeah. Look at our Trump's cabinets.
All leaders from Florida are a lot of them.

Speaker 1 (01:25:51):
I mean, well, the Governor Ronda Sentis, I think, will
be with Donald Trump this weekend at the Army Navy
Game because he's a Navy Love that. But look what
he did in his own state. He has given the
more than one hundred thousand state workers and extra three
days off for the holidays. He said, things are going

(01:26:11):
so well in Florida. You've worked so hard to make
this an absolutely fantastic state. I'm going to give you
a three additional days off during the holidays.

Speaker 2 (01:26:19):
To be with your family. That's that's awesome.

Speaker 1 (01:26:23):
No one's doing that for us. No, of course, we're
taking a couple of weeks.

Speaker 2 (01:26:27):
Well we do between Christmas and the years the show. Yeah,
but that's kind of nice. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:26:31):
He announced that all state workers will get an additional
three days off this holiday season.

Speaker 2 (01:26:38):
Se hard to talk about, but we got ran out
of time.

Speaker 1 (01:26:40):
Yeah, we do. We'll pick up on it tomorrow. Head up,
shoulders bag. May God bless you and your family this
great country of ours. Thank Rod and Greg gets Friday
starts tomorrow at four.

Speaker 2 (01:26:49):
Talk to you.