The Rod and Greg Show: Opposition to Warming Centers; Salt Lake Tribune Article; Latest Inflation Numbers

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Donald Trump is on a roll right now. I mean,
it just keeps doing. As they used to say in
old time radio, the hits just keep on coming.

Speaker 2 (00:08):
They sure do. Now I can't claim authorship of this,
but it is one hundred percent true. I read this.
It feels like the fourth of July and Christmas Morning
merge together, just combine together like a Reese's peanut butter cup.
And I'm telling you that every time I think I've
seen something on you know, come through the newswire, come
on to social media, I think, well, this has got

(00:28):
to be the apex right here. This has got to
be the best thing that's going to happen. And it
gets beat and then you see the next thing and
you're like, no way. So yeah, I just I'm just
telling you that you have in President elect Donald Trump,
someone who knows exactly where he wants to go, and
he has people this time, he feels in trust and

(00:49):
he is going to empower.

Speaker 1 (00:50):
He is getting people who are loyal to him. You
and I were talking about this just before the show started.
You know, all the criticism, well is nothing but his
buddies and TV person and they're loyal to him. And
you said, shall we go back to John F.

Speaker 3 (01:03):
Kennedy.

Speaker 1 (01:04):
That's exactly what did John F. Kennedy do when he
became president of the United States.

Speaker 2 (01:08):
He appointed his brother, Robert F. Kennedy as the attorney general.
He was thirty five at the time. Okay. He also
was the one that in the Bay of Pigs, you know,
stand off between USSR and Kruse, Chief went to Turkey
and negotiated the stand down of those those missiles there.
Since when does the Attorney General of the United States
go to Turkey and negotiate those things? You do when

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you're the president of the United States and you don't
trust the establishment in the deep state around you, you
make sure you've got someone who you trust one hundred percent.
And that happened to be John F. Kennedy's brother, Bobby Kennedy.
And look that if someone wants to cry about what
Trump's doing, then go after JF. Can say that what
he did is wrong. I think I don't know anyone
that would argue. I've never heard anyone say that was

(01:51):
the worst pick that John F. Kennedy ever made, picking
his brother to be ag and.

Speaker 1 (01:55):
He did that, as you pointed out, Craig, the Kennedys
did not trust the FBI.

Speaker 2 (02:00):
No, they did not.

Speaker 1 (02:01):
They Edgar Hoover was still around, as I recalled back then,
and they did not trust the FBI or the Department
of Justice. And President Kennedy wanted somebody on his team
who he could trust, who would deal the work that
needed to be done, and he turned to Bobby Kennedy.
So Donald Trump, basically, I think it's doing the same
thing he.

Speaker 2 (02:18):
Really is, and it's the It was the Cuban missile
crisis that that where you saw Bobby Kennedy engage in
the in the you know, the diplomacy within other countries
and in Turkey and with USSR. The Bay of Pigs
is where he kind of inherited this plan from the
previous administration. Didn't like it, but this was like, hey,
we're doing this, this is all set up. And then

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it was a disaster of which he owned and he
wasn't going to make that mistake again. And that was
with Cubans nationalists, with the mob invading Cuba, and it
didn't work. It didn't, it didn't work.

Speaker 1 (02:50):
Now there is a Kennedy name that is being tossed
around as a possible cabinet appointee on the Trump administration.
We're talking about Robert F. Kennedy Junior.

Speaker 2 (03:00):
That's right, rfk's son right now, Maha, make America healthy again.
I'm on the train baby, at least philosophically.

Speaker 3 (03:07):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (03:07):
Yeah, Well, he abandoned his independent campaign and it's now
behind Donald Trump, and him and Donald Trump have formed
a great bond. Now my question is Greg today, is
Trump going to appoint him after some of the comments
he made today. He brought up the point, you know,
he's really into health and healthy food and healthy eating,
and he said the food on Trump's plane is poisoned.

(03:30):
He just said, you know, it's not very healthy. He says,
Now most campaigns there's not healthy food around, but he said,
I've never seen it this bad as it was Trump's campaign.
So I wondering if Trump will go along and select
RFK Junior now that he's been critical of the food
on the Trump plane.

Speaker 2 (03:47):
As long as there aren't any working lunches, I think
he'll be fine. Okay fine, and maybe maybe RFK Junior
can have a say in the Christmas the Christmas reception.

Speaker 1 (03:57):
The bull it's a different that's just a little side note. Today,
Robert f Kendy Junior saying the food around Donald Trump,
president elect Trump, is poisoned. All right, now, let's get
to the big news of the day. Matt Gates a surprise,
I think to a lot of people out there today
greg being appointed as attorney general or nominated, I should say,

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as attorney general. This followed what happened yesterday when Pete
Haigeseth was appointed or nominated become Defense Secretary. Let's go
to CNN, Scott Jenny Soho. I think it's just doing
a fantastic job on CNN setting the world straight as
to what the president is doing. This was his reaction
today when news came that Matt Gates has been nominated

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to be Attorney general.

Speaker 2 (04:40):
Are you not entertained?

Speaker 4 (04:41):
I mean, this is the most entertaining transition I've ever seen.

Speaker 3 (04:44):
No.

Speaker 4 (04:44):
I was as surprised as Paula because it's not a
name that we had seen. You know, We've seen some reporting,
a lot of different names, frankly, a lot of really
sort of well healed Washington legal types that were on
the list. So I'm as surprised as anyone. But what
I take away from this is that this is a
president elect who is feeling his power. I mean, this
is someone who is appointing people to things, whether it's

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Gates or anything else we've seen today, who is feeling
his power, feeling his influence. Doesn't feel like he's in
a mood to negotiate with the people in Washington, DC.
He's here to do what he wants to do, and
he's going to expect the Republicans to fall in line.

Speaker 1 (05:20):
Yeah. I agree with Scott Jenny's I mean, Donald Trump
is feeling the oats, baby, and I tell you what,
he's going to do what he wants basically because he
is a mandate from the American people.

Speaker 2 (05:30):
He does. And you know what, I there are just
too many examples in American history where you didn't have
to be part of that swamp and we didn't call
it then. But if you want to say that the
only people qualified were the people that were, you know,
on either side of the ledger with the printing of
money and the spending of money and the making of nothing, okay,
if you think that those are the only people qualified

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to perpetuate that mess, you'd be wrong. You've had a
lot of great people that have been brought into administrations
who've done great things, and it's because they can shake
up the status of which that little ecosystem in there
has no interest in doing. They think they just feed themselves.

Speaker 1 (06:06):
And is the establishment ever pushing back on Pete haig Seth,
who has now been nominated to be Defense Secretary. This
is Scott Jennings on CNN last night talking about Pete
haig Seth as Defense Secretary nominee.

Speaker 4 (06:18):
Does anyone have confidence in the current leadership of the
Pentagon and the way the defense situation has been operating
for the last several years. I mean from the Afghanistan pullout,
which was an extreme debacle for which no one was
held accountable. We've had spy balloons flying over the United States.
We built a three hundred million dollar peer as a
public relations stunt, which wound up killing an American service member.

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I'd say I've had just about enough of the so
called insiders.

Speaker 1 (06:45):
Running the Defense Department.

Speaker 4 (06:46):
I think you ought to get Pete Haggs at the chance.

Speaker 5 (06:48):
Because he's got two daughters.

Speaker 4 (06:51):
All the criticism of him is that he's not the
expected Washington pick. And I'm just saying to you that
the American people just voted against the expect at Washington pick.

Speaker 2 (07:00):
So he's got.

Speaker 4 (07:01):
Twenty years in service Afghanistan, Iraq, Tubron, Stars, Princeton, Harvard. Yeah,
he's on TV, but so were the rest of us.

Speaker 1 (07:09):
And Scott Jennings is spot on on that the American
people don't want the swamp. No, they're tired of the swamp.
They want something different. And that's what Donald Trump is
willing to do.

Speaker 2 (07:19):
And here's the thing, you can't. You can't question the
man's decision making process right now because he went with
the way they said to do it. Last time. He
picked mad Dog Mattis. Remember that when you picked him,
he was supposed to be the toughest DoD guy and
he was this and that that guy ended up absolutely
undermining the president in every way possible. He defended that
establishment and that department at the expense of what the

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president wanted to do. Four and on behalf of the
American people. So did John Kelly, who was another general
who was supposed to do who was supposed to be
Trump's chiefest staff and has we've read it, it's been
documented continually undermined the president in the Oval office, keeping
information from him because he wanted to protect the establishment.
He's learned from this. He's not making the same mistakes twice.

Speaker 1 (08:01):
Donald Trump is feeling his power and he's using it more.
Coming up on the Rodding Gregg Show on This Wingman
Wednesday edition right here on Utah's Talk Radio one O
five to nine. Knrs well A Scott Jennings just said
on CNN we aired that SoundBite for you. The president
feels the power. He feels he has the American people
behind him, and he's moving in the direction that he

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wants to take the country. Let's talk more about it
right now with our next guest, Susan Shelley, a columnist
at the Southern California News Group. Always great to have
Susan on the show. Susan, how are you welcome back
to the Rodding Greg Show.

Speaker 6 (08:33):
Hi Rod, and Hi Greg.

Speaker 2 (08:34):
It's great to be with you.

Speaker 1 (08:36):
Talk about what do you think of what happened in
the past few days with Donald Trump and all these appointments.
It is flying by, Susan.

Speaker 6 (08:43):
It is so fascinating. It's not like he wasn't ready
for this. We've been working for three months plus four
years to get ready for this, and he had his
transition team which was privately funded so that he didn't
have to work with the government services administration of the
Biden administration. He didn't want any leaks. So he's been

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working on this privately funded for three months, all the
work of a transition and vetting people and choosing appointees.
And so now they're, like you said, a gatling gun,
they're just firing them out.

Speaker 2 (09:15):
Yeah. So I so I was saying that before. Tell me,
with this incredible mandate and kind of with all the
understanding that the former president and now president elect has,
what do you expect from from a trand from these
cabinet appointees? I mean, this cabinet is who's who? We
recognize them. I don't remember a time where we would
recognize the name. I mean we'd hear names and need

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to see their bios. I didn't know who Mad Dog
Mattis was, you know, back in sixteen or seventeen when
they talked about him. Tell me about the enthusiasm people
may feel and what your expectations are with a atypical
but maybe familiar cabinet that Trump's putting together.

Speaker 6 (09:53):
Well, it looks to me like he is aggressively going
after the people who destroyed his first administration, all the
people in the deep state who refused to do security clearances,
who slow walked paperwork for payroll, who delayed his confirmation
of appointees, all those people who got him off to
a slow start, all those people who launched that hoax

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Russia investigation which damaged his administration so greatly for no reason.
I think he's going after all of them. He's going
to clean him out in probably three months, and by Easter,
we're going to have a rolling, a rolling show of
prosperity for the American people.

Speaker 1 (10:32):
Let me ask you this, Susan. These are people who
are very loyal to Donald Trump. I mean, what does
that tell you?

Speaker 6 (10:40):
Well, I think it tells me that he doesn't want
anybody double crossing him behind his back, which is exactly
what happened in many cases in the first administration. And
he has spoken about this at rallies. How he went
to Washington really knowing nobody and having to take recommendations
for all of these high level appointments and finding soon

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enough that not all of them were trustworthy, and some
of them were devoted to blocking his administration instead of
enabling the policies. And this is the same old story
that we've had for decades in America, where this this
permanent government tries to foil the will of the American
people as if we're a bunch of children holding a
student election and it doesn't really count because they're the government.

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That's not the deal we signed. And Donald Trump is
the first president who has really been in a position
to do something about it.

Speaker 2 (11:32):
So what do you expect? I mean, I agree, I
think that that he has learned so much. I think
that I'll tell you, there was someone posted that the
DOJ may not have a single employee left before Matt
Gates enters the door as ag because of what he
knows and who what you know how well he knows it. So,
but what do you expect? Honestly, in terms of the

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first one hundred days and of Congress, you have a
brand new Senate majority leader, and soon he has committed.
We're told to the Caucus of Republicans in the Senate
that he is committed to recess appointments and Donald Trump's agenda.
So what do you expect us to see it from
the American people? What are we going to find?

Speaker 6 (12:11):
I think he's going to take actions very early that
have a very positive effect for everybody. For instance, he
has talked about using the threat of tariffs to muscle
companies into bringing their factories back to the United States
or not leaving the United States. So I think you're
going to see that, which means there will be more hiring.
And every time you have a factory that's in the
United States, you have all those businesses that pick up

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some of the work for that factory, whether it's restaurants
nearby or it's parts manufacturers. Every time there's a new
business that locates in the United States, it employs a
lot of people, and it creates the expectation of prosperity,
which creates more investment, which creates more jobs, which is
a self sustaining, wonderful thing in a capitalist society. It

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doesn't require government subsidies or government management. It just on
leash the energy of the American people. So I think
you'll see that which will create a very positive vibe
in the country. I think you'll see the border closed
up and some of the people who are currently collecting
benefits from the taxpayers stop collecting those benefits, which will
be helpful. I think there's I think that will really

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cheer people up to see that they're not supporting lawlessness
anymore with their tax dollars. And of course he's going
to increase oil and gas production, and that will bring
down energy costs, and it also may stabilize some of
the pockets of violence around the world, because when the
United States is a reliable supplier of energy, other countries
don't have to do business with military dictatorships that are

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such a threat to the peace in the world. So
in every respect, he can put the policies back that
Joe Biden reversed, and that by itself will be a
boost for the United States.

Speaker 1 (13:54):
Susan. I think he told the American people he means
business when it comes to the border with the appointment
of Tom Holman and Stephen Miller, and he means business.
I'm doing something about the border. Do you take it?
Do you take Are you reading that the way I am?

Speaker 6 (14:07):
Well, he has talked about mass deportation and it's polling
very well, which I wouldn't have expected. But you've got
something like sixty percent of the American people who favor
mass deportation. And of course it will start with people
who are criminals and sanctuary jurisdictions like in California where
I am, they will protect criminals from an IC detainer

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so that they will not be turned over to federal
immigration authorities to be deported. I think the Trump administration
will try to put a stop to that. And rightly so,
why what's the argument for releasing criminals into our community?

Speaker 1 (14:41):
Very good point, Susan. As always great chatting with you.
Thanks for joining Greg and I tonight and enjoy the
rest of the day.

Speaker 6 (14:48):
Thank you so much.

Speaker 1 (14:49):
All right, don thank on our newsmaker line. Susan Shelley,
a columnist with the Southern California News Group, and her
thoughts on the fact that President Trump has a mandate
from the American people. All right, more coming up right
here on Utah's Talk RADI on ONET oh five nine
can arrests. Well, what we're talking about now is what's
going on up in Davis County. Some Kysville residents, homeowners
there showed up in large numbers to oppose a warming center.

(15:12):
This is a center that is being set up for
homeless people if the temperature drops below a certain degree
and they would be housed in a county owned facility.
But how much, say, do residents or even cities have
Let's find more about it. Find out more about it
right now. Joining us on our Newsmaker line is the
mayor of Kaysville, Dammy Tran Mayer. How are you and
welcome to the Rod and Gregg Show.

Speaker 7 (15:33):
Hi, thank you for having me.

Speaker 1 (15:34):
Mayor give us a little background on this. What exactly
challenges are the people in Kysville and residents in Kysville
facing with these warming centers?

Speaker 7 (15:44):
Well, I think for a couple of things.

Speaker 8 (15:46):
First of all, we've never done it before, so it's
called the Code Blue Warming.

Speaker 7 (15:50):
Center when it's eighteen degrees or colder.

Speaker 8 (15:52):
The state costs the law that said counties of the
second class, which includes Davis County, have to set up
these centers. They created a a local Davids County task Force.
A volunteered to be on it with some other mayors
and one commissioner, and we were tasked with this idea
of coming up with a plan for Cookley Knites.

Speaker 7 (16:10):
So that's kind of what started everything.

Speaker 8 (16:12):
It's been almost over a year that we've had these
conversations going trying to come up with something. Kayesville said, Hey,
we've heard about these dignity buses.

Speaker 7 (16:21):
They're built in Baro Beach, Florida. Could this work?

Speaker 8 (16:25):
We submitted it got consensus amongst the fifteen counties and said, hey.

Speaker 7 (16:29):
Let's submit this plan.

Speaker 8 (16:30):
So we submitted the plan of the state, but it
lacked funding because the county said, we're not going to
fund or manage a warming bus program gets.

Speaker 7 (16:38):
To the state.

Speaker 8 (16:39):
The state said, you know what, it checks all the boxes.
It has twenty beds, we require sixteen. It keeps people warm.
Tech Tech check but we need the county to manage it.
And the county said, no, we're not going to manage it, and.

Speaker 2 (16:51):
So the plan felt So, so what is the plant?
Have you identified? Is there an address and a physical
location that's been identified to be a warming center?

Speaker 7 (17:02):
Mayor Yes, So the county. I was just looking on
their website. They just updated their code Blue plan.

Speaker 8 (17:08):
The three locations are the they said. It says the
warming center will rotate between three locations depending on availability.
The Ion Tech Center building, which is that five twenty
old now Lane in Kayesville.

Speaker 7 (17:21):
It's next to.

Speaker 8 (17:22):
The mill, the old the mill, the church mill of
the church expressed Battery Saints.

Speaker 7 (17:29):
That's where it is.

Speaker 8 (17:30):
The North Davis Senior Center, which is on State Street
and Clearfield next to the Health Department, and then Valley
Do you golf course in Leyton?

Speaker 7 (17:38):
Which is East Gentile in Leyton?

Speaker 2 (17:41):
What about the arct residence. How Come that's not on
the list. I would have thought that's a natural. He's
very kind.

Speaker 1 (17:47):
Yeah, I like you. Let me ask you, Mayor do
the cities have any say in any of this? Or
is it the county and the main old state of
Utah telling our city is what they have to do?

Speaker 8 (18:01):
Well, I'm laughing, but I'm actually pretty upset about this.

Speaker 7 (18:04):
These cities really don't so.

Speaker 8 (18:06):
That the task Force was supposed to help come up
with solution, but the law is directed to counties.

Speaker 7 (18:13):
Cities haven't aren't required to do anything.

Speaker 8 (18:15):
The county is required to manage a plan that comes
from the task force members. So it's really, you know,
it's hard. Everyone's pointing fingers. The county says it's the state.
The state says no, it's the county. The county says
it's casable saying no.

Speaker 2 (18:31):
So I'm laughing too, because you know what Mayor we've met,
you're a phenomenal public service. If you don't laugh, you
will cry, And so we have to keep laughing because
we have to try and find a glass apple. Well,
let me ask you this. So I don't know that
there's one hundred percent the case, but I would have
I think that instead of the state when I was
on the clock, we've we've identified some locations for what

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they call homemost resource centers. That was a very difficult process.
People didn't like how that, they didn't like the sites
were selected. It's inherently going to receive opposition. But I
was under the impression that counties, instead of the state,
informing counties where those sites would be, they wanted to
have some skin in the game, and they wanted to
be able to help select warming stations or potential sites.

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If that's the case, then why wouldn't the county if
they wanted to have that eye on the process or
decision making process. Why wouldn't they Why would they ask
the cities to pay for it and not the county.

Speaker 8 (19:29):
Well, okay, so there's a funding issue as well. The
county just really doesn't want responsibility for it. What Kaysville
has an opposition to is that the county plan is
to bust people from Clinton, Clearfield, Layton, Farmington, and Bountiful
into Kaysville City and then with the expectation that the
people who are busted in from other cities to our

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city will then get on the bus and then leave
and go back to their cities. And so it's not
so much that the county's asking the cities to pay
for it, except that if it's in city is going
to impact us. We have to hire additional officers, We're
going to have to have additional fire potentially support, paramedic support.

Speaker 7 (20:11):
So it is it is a burden on the cities.

Speaker 9 (20:13):
Mayor.

Speaker 1 (20:13):
Let me ask you that where where are the homeless found?
I mean, will will an organization, will this boss some
sort of transportation go around to all these cities, see
people out on the street, homeless people pick them up
and take them to the this a warming center. How
exactly will they gather these people? And where do they
come from?

Speaker 7 (20:32):
I'm really not sure.

Speaker 8 (20:33):
There are some locations identified on the website just Clinton
Walmart parking Lot, Clearfield, Rancho Market, Layton Walmart parking Lot,
Farmington Frontrunner and Bountiful Gateway cross.

Speaker 1 (20:43):
Wait Okay, and will yeah, will the homeless know that
these centers are there? How do they even get word
of this.

Speaker 7 (20:50):
I think they look on the county website.

Speaker 3 (20:52):
I really do know.

Speaker 1 (20:54):
I don't know a lot of sense to us.

Speaker 8 (20:57):
It's just frustrating for us in Casewell because you know,
we said, hey, here's here's a great plan that the
county all, you know, we all agreed on, and.

Speaker 7 (21:05):
It doesn't put it in anyone's city, and it's not
a permanent solution. And what we're really so concerned about
is that nobody.

Speaker 8 (21:12):
Wants a permanent shelter if it doesn't make sense for
them to host a shelter.

Speaker 1 (21:16):
That's true, Mayor. We appreciate a few minutes of your time.
I think I see I blame the state that was
once led by Greg Hughes.

Speaker 2 (21:26):
It is it's the big best stake. It was news
to Rod that the state is that all counties and
cities are political subdivisions to the states, so the state
actually gets to decide. And he hates that fact and
it needs to change. But I don't like unfounded mandates
to good, hardworking mayors like yourself, Mayor. So but we're
going to keep looking into this.

Speaker 1 (21:44):
We'll stay on top of it. We will, all right, Thanks, Mayor.
Mayor Tammy Trent. You know, she's my hometown there she is.

Speaker 2 (21:52):
That's why a d Rckeette residence should be a warming center.
I don't even know how that got off the list.
I think it was on the list. I think you
used some skullduggery and some.

Speaker 1 (21:59):
You know, she does her own podcast. She invited me
to be on the podcast one time. How to Go
never invited you, but she invited me. I just wanted
to leave that with you, all right. More coming up
on the right.

Speaker 2 (22:09):
We should get ahold of Representative Tyler Clancy on this.
I just had someone text me and that's that.

Speaker 1 (22:14):
We'll talk it all right. More coming up on the
Rod and Greig Show and Talk Radio one O five
nine k rs. So much election news out there, Greg.

Speaker 2 (22:22):
But I just gotta draw a right line. I know
we're coming to the end of break. I gotta draw
up right line right now. I've had it. I've had it.
I'm just telling you, I'm at the end of my
rope here. I do know I do, but I'm gonna
tell you I'm getting another I'm getting another. Uh screenshot
from Queen Bee talking about these picks, and she's quoting
Lisa Booth UH for her from her tweet, and it says,

(22:43):
on a vein note, Trump will have a very good
looking administration make America hot again. Let me tell you something.
I'm about off the Heggs hagg set train right now
for d d if he if. If this Calvin Klein
underwear model keeps getting all this attention, I'm off. I'm done.
I'm gonna be done with this. I'm getting harassed now.
This is cyberbullying I'm getting from my own wife. Queen

(23:04):
Bee is so excited about this guy. Come on, that guy,
he's not that correct. Okay, he works out. I might
not work out everything else I'm as good or better.

Speaker 1 (23:13):
Do you want to go home and settle this?

Speaker 2 (23:16):
No, I just can't kidding these. I just kid, I'm
just getting all these you know. She just she's really
good for content. Oh, by the way, and she says
about about the homelessness, and I think this is true
homeless warming centers. When Salt Lake City starts to come
out against the illegal immigration and the steady stream of
drugs coming here from Mexico, then she'll think about a
warming center and some other ones, some other city.

Speaker 1 (23:35):
I think she's right. She's one hundred percent right. A
couple other election related stories. Uh, you know you know
the name Alan Lichtman. Yes, he's the American University professor.
He's been called the Nostradamus of elections. He's he's shown
as colors, he's lost, he loves Trump. He was off this. Well,
guess who he's blaming who? Fox News?

Speaker 2 (23:58):
Because MSNBC, cn NBC, ABC, CBS is New York Times,
Washington Post, None of those count Just Fox News.

Speaker 1 (24:06):
Huh, that's what he blamed me. And he's saying it's
all Fox News's fault that his predictions, which over the
years have been spot on, were off this year. Remember
he had predicted for quite some time greg that Kamala
would win. Boy did I watched thirteen points of Light
or whatever he called.

Speaker 2 (24:22):
Them, So I walked. There was a video of him
with his son on election night and they were talking
in real time as this was rolling out, and the
guy wasn't just some you know, umpire callum balls and strikes.
He really wanted Kamala Harris to win. Yeah, And you
could see that bias throughout everything he was saying. And
he was still holding out hope, holding out hope till
they lost but you know, when you looked at his

(24:42):
thirteen points, some of them were so gray in terms
of how he thought Kamala the Harris Walls campaign fit
his points and like, whoever's doing this will win. Some
of the ones he gave her you could argue were
actually for Trump. So I don't know that. I think
the guy had a had a predisposition before he made prediction.

Speaker 1 (25:00):
Well, another big story during the election where some of
the major newspapers around the country, like the Washington Post
in the La Times not endorsing. Remember that that was
a big story not endorsing. Guess what the owner of
the La Times is now done. You know the the
endorsement was written and the owner, his name is Patrick
soon Shiong, said no, we aren't going to run that.

(25:21):
We're going to be fair and balanced. We aren't going
to run this, this endorsement of Kamala Harris right. Guess
what he's done now, he's fired the entire editorial board here.
You're gone. You don't want to do what I say.
You want to object to it, you want to write
ugly articles about me, go ahead, but you're not working
here anymore.

Speaker 2 (25:39):
I love it, I do.

Speaker 9 (25:40):
I love it.

Speaker 2 (25:41):
He's just clean a house. He's going to try and
get something. I think I read somewhere where he wrote
to the to the readers, we think that people's opinions,
all opinions, we should be able to represent fairly in
a paper and a publication like this. And who knew
that that's something that's like a controversial position to have. Now,
whether they can do it or not, it's the bigger question,
all right.

Speaker 1 (26:00):
A lot more to come in our number two of
the Routing Greg Show on the Swingman Wednesday edition, Stay
with us. Wasn't it interesting? Today? Greg? President Trump a
triumphant return to Washington today, met with members of Congress,

(26:22):
spoke to them very briefly. Elon Musk, by the way,
was at that meeting with Congress today, and then he
went over to the White House, had a very cordial
meeting apparently with President Biden, and both you and I remarked,
because you'll see the video and the pictures, Joe Biden
looked so relaxed.

Speaker 2 (26:39):
I would take it a step further, look giddy. He
is smiling ear to ear. It's like, ha ha, I
didn't lose to him.

Speaker 6 (26:45):
It wasn't me.

Speaker 9 (26:46):
It was me.

Speaker 2 (26:46):
I didn't take the l on this one. He seems
to be just enjoy almost I think he's almost too excited.
I mean, I look at these pictures and Trump's being polied.
He's got a kind of a nice grin on his face.
And then you see Trump is beaming. He's just Biden
is beaming. He's so excited. Yeah, so happy.

Speaker 1 (27:04):
It's very very happy. But you know, I did want
to ask you this question. Greg. You've been out on
the campaign trail. You've called I don't know if you've
called other candidates so we're running against you names.

Speaker 2 (27:17):
I never called anyone a fascist or Nazi. I've not
done that. I have challenged people on their positions as
a candidate.

Speaker 1 (27:23):
If you were called a Nazi or a fascist, and
now you have to sit with the guy in the
oval office with a fire burning in the background, how
do you how do you deal with that?

Speaker 10 (27:31):
Well?

Speaker 2 (27:32):
Yeah, and I think that it's a blood sport there.
I got to tell you this that that there is
no greater elixir in life than winning. Okay, okay, it
can make you amazingly magnanimous when you win, At least
for me, I don't I didn't get real real vindictive.
Uh when I won, I I don't. I wasn't vindictive

(27:53):
when I lost. But I think I can be magnanimous
when we have prevailed and we have vanquished the foe. Okay.
But if a campaign, or even in politics, in policy,
if it crosses outside the lines of real policy debate
and even energetic and passionate debate on issues and starts
to get personal, whether it's an attack on you, your character,

(28:16):
or your family, that is harder to digest one because
that's just not it's your family. Public service is just
not worth it when it when it, especially when it
starts to impact your kids. And and many people you
know that they are in public service, they have families,
and they hear these things, and then when it gets
personal like that, that is tough. However, I will say

(28:37):
that even in the disagreement of issues, I've watched some
candidates that don't like to be criticized, even on policy,
and hold those grudges that they were criticized at all.
And I think that's that you got to get a
thick skin, and you got to get over it, and
you got to be ready to move on.

Speaker 1 (28:52):
Well you and I saw this article in the Salt
Lake Tribune yesterday and we want to talk to our
great listeners about this and get their reaction. It was
an article in the Salt Lake written by Janne Reeves.
Now Janner Reeves does a lot of articles in the
Tribune about the ildea's faith, Okay, and she wrote an article.
The headline is this, after Trump's election, Latter Day Saints
are again on the wrong side of history. Now, what

(29:15):
she's talking about is that there was a survey, it's
the American Valued Survey, came out last month, just before
the presidential election of a couple of a week ago,
and the one finding that she says really bothered her
was nearly a third of Latter Day Saints who are
part of this survey agree that immigrants are poisoning the

(29:37):
blood of the nation. Now, that was a comment that
Donald Trump made back in December of twenty twenty three
at a rally in New Hampshire. Then she says, that
is the same type of comment that Adolf Hitler made
back in nineteen thirties there in Nazi Germany. And she
goes on to talk about the fact that a lot

(29:58):
of members of the Church Jesus Christ of Latter Day
Saints at the time were very accommodating to Adolf Hitler.
They helped them in a number of areas. One area
was genealogy, and they went along with Hitler. And now
it's likely there were eager Latter day Saints at some
of the rallies that you know that Hitler was famous
for having right And she goes on to say, then,

(30:20):
she says, Okay, now you have a lot of Latter
day Saints members of the Mormon Church who probably voted
for Donald Trump, and their vote was because of his
economic conditions. I think there's a lot of support. Then,
but she said, they are also accommodating other elements of

(30:40):
what he is trying to do, and that is immigration
and being tough on people are.

Speaker 2 (30:46):
Illegal in the cost.

Speaker 1 (30:48):
But so she's equating members of the LDS Faith with
back in the thirties, accommodating Hitler to members of the
LDS Faith in twenty twenty four, accommodating Donald Trump because
of his stand on immigration.

Speaker 2 (31:03):
Well, what's what's what is just unbelievable to me is
there's a couple issues there to unpack. But one is
this is a This is an editorial written after the
camp I mean, we heard this Trump is Hitler mantra
prior to the election, after the election, and certainly with
the overwhelming support he received winning the electoral vote as
well as or the popular vote in the electoral college.

(31:25):
Some of that, and you see it in the visit
to the White House. Right now, people have settled down
from this hyperbole and these these baseless attacks. But this
is an editorial that that rises up and accuses members
of the Church of UIs Christ latterday Saints of supporting
a Nazi. If they support them, even if they are
there were good economic reasons to do so, they're still
doing the morally wrong thing. Here's where the desert, the

(31:47):
Solid Tribune and this this columnist is on the wrong side,
and they say that those of those that are members
of the church are going to be are going to
be on the wrong side of history. Let me tell
you where they're on the wrong side of history. You
don't take a majority of this country and who they
elect as president and say that that is not the
right side of history. That is, by definition history, that

(32:07):
is the right side. But I'm going to share with
you something. There was a member of the of the
Mormon Tabernacle choir, and she had said, okay that she
could not. She was resigning from the Mormon Tabernacle choir
because she did not want to participate in the inauguration
events coming up. She said, I've tried to tell myself
that it'll all be right and I can continue in

(32:28):
good conscience before God and man. She goes, I only
know I could never throw roses to Hitler, and I
certainly could never sing to him. And she says, looking
from the outside in it will it will appear that
the choir is endorsing tyranny and fascism by singing for
this man. Tyranny is now on our doorstep. This was
back windows years ago, right now. I didn't tell you

(32:51):
the date because this is the mantra you hear in
that article right there. But this was said in twenty sixteen.
She was wrong, clearly wrong, and she she started using
she was using the fascism in Hitler mantra that is old,
tired and untrue. But at least there hadn't been a
term served as president when she was making this point.

(33:12):
Now we have a term that President Trump served in
We've seen the lies. There's even been Democrats in Washington
posts that have shown that this fine people, you know,
white supremacist find people is a lie. So many of
the accusations they've leveled against President Trump have been lies.
But to then just hit rewind, just hit reset, and

(33:32):
just go back to twenty sixteen mantra that its tyranny,
it's fascism. It is so tired. And I'm going to
tell you that the more they keep doing this. And
then when you see Democrats, if what this member of
this Mormon tabernacle choir was saying was true back then,
or what this calmness is saying is true right now,
then you know who else is on the wrong side
of history. This President Biden, all the peaceful transition, you

(33:54):
would not peacefully transition control of this government to a
true fascist or Nazi sympathizer. I don't think, or at
least you have a hard time. You certainly won't be
smiling like a cheshire cat like Biden is right now.
I think that history is proving that these baseless accusations
are just that baseless, and that they're below the belt.

(34:16):
And you know, and it's again, this old article is
the exact same point that's being made in this article today.
This is eight years ago and here we are again
seeing it again today.

Speaker 1 (34:26):
Well, here's how she ends the article, and this what
I want to ask our listeners today, because we have
the greatest listeners in the world. She says, our people,
she's a member of the LDS Faith, I believe. So
we're referring to members of the LDS Faith are once
again on the wrong side of justice, the wrong side
of the Gospel, and the wrong side of history because

(34:47):
you voted for Donald Trump knowing that his immigration policies
are tough, they're going to be there. They're they're going
to be very, very focused on protecting our borders, and
apparently if you believe in protecting our borders, you are
on the wrong side of history.

Speaker 2 (35:02):
Yeah, there's a big immigration.

Speaker 1 (35:04):
She is saying.

Speaker 2 (35:05):
He supports immigration. I support immigration, you do. We don't
support breaking the law, Okay, whether that's breaking the law
and stealing out of a store or breaking the law
on our immigration laws. We are not a lawless society
and we don't we don't condone and we don't accept illegality.
That's what we don't. And then they can just say,
well that's immigration, as if the same that came here
legally that they wump them all together. They don't even

(35:28):
the immigrants that came here legally don't support the cartel
run illegal immigration into this country.

Speaker 1 (35:33):
Well, we want to get your calls on this or
your thoughts on this. Do you feel that, as a
member of the ld Is faith or may be any
other faith out there, that you are on the wrong
side of history because you're supporting Donald Trump, maybe because
of an economic policies, but also knowing he wants to
be tough on immigration. Are you on the wrong side
of the gospel? Eight eight eight five seven eight or

(35:55):
a one zero triple eight five seven eight zero one zero.
Are on your cell phone dial pound two fifty and say, hey, Rod,
your calls, your comments coming up on the Rodden Gregg Show.
Because I'm that you're so technically you are so connected,
pretty amazing, pretty amazing.

Speaker 2 (36:09):
I'm a tech freak, is what I am.

Speaker 1 (36:11):
You are not really can't figure out how to turn
on your computer, so don't.

Speaker 2 (36:15):
I've never owned a computer till that I got this
laptop here at iHeart.

Speaker 1 (36:19):
All right, welcome back to the show. Just joining us now.
We're talking about this column that was written the other
day in the Salt Lake Tribune by Janne Reeves basically
comparing members of the LDS Faith who voted for Donald
Trump to members of the LDS Faith who accommodated Hitler
back in Germany in the nineteen thirties and early nineteen forties.
And she ends this by saying our people, referring to

(36:42):
members of the faith because she is a member of
the Latter day Saint Church, saying once again, you were
on the wrong side of justice, the wrong side of history,
and the wrong side of the gospel. So do you
feel that way. Let's go to the phone, see what
you have to say. We eight eight eight five seven
eight zero one zero eight eight eight five seven o
eight zero one zero, or on your cell phone, dal

(37:03):
pound two fifty and say, hey, Rod, let's go to
the phones. Chris Herrod, former state lawmakers joining us. Chris,
of course, very knowledgeable the entire immigration issue, has written
some books on this, Chris. What's your reaction to what
someone like Jenna Reesons.

Speaker 11 (37:15):
Saying, well, you guys got my blood pressure going. I'm
just sitting here on IFTE kind of as the poster boy.
You know, I've been called racist on Christian you know,
not by not just the Tribune, but also the Desert News.
You know, I think we really need to push back.

(37:36):
These people are so ignorant of the harm that they
have caused or or the way that legal immigrants really feel.
You know, one of the people that President Trump served
when he was, you know, working at McDonald's. A lot
of the news didn't cover, but she was a legal
immigrant from Brazil.

Speaker 9 (37:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 11 (37:56):
Absolutely love President Trump. Remember that I said, don't my
country or don't let this country become like my country?
And you know, they sound like a lot of the
white women in my wards. You know, I have you know,
I live in a great ward, but I have all
these white women that think that I'm too hard on
illegal immigration. And yet the fifteen legal immigrants in my

(38:18):
ward love me because they have started opinions against illegal
immigration in me. And they live in such a little bubble.
And you know, you look at what legal immigrants that
are already trying. You know, it's tough to come here first,
but you look at the rent that they're having to pay,
because you know, we've got legal immigrants, you know, illegal

(38:39):
immigration in the state. We have sixty thousand people in
the state of Utah in the last three years that
have applied for asylum. That is uncompassionate to those in
the in the strata that is trying to fight for
those homes. You know, my son's a newly married kid.
He's having to pay fifteen hundred dollars if he goes

(39:01):
to the open market for it. So they are they
do not have compassion, and they are truly ignorant. Uh.
And that's what gets me going is I'm done taking it.
I'm gonna push back us and punch back counter attack
when I get attacked.

Speaker 2 (39:21):
Chris Harrott, I'm so glad that you do and that
you have. Honestly, those are some truth bombs, undeniable. I'm incontestable.
Thank you for calling. Thanks for joining us. Drive Safe
on I fifteen. I hate if people are mad and
listening to this show and they're driving. We don't want
to cause accidents, do we?

Speaker 3 (39:36):
All right?

Speaker 1 (39:37):
I thank those the phones We go. Kim Hartley is
in Smithfield tonight here on the Rotten Great Show. Kim,
thanks for joining us tonight.

Speaker 12 (39:45):
You bet. I just wanted to say that I saw
the title of that article earlier today and I decided
not to read it because I didn't really want to
read anything negative today, but I have to admit that
I have to repent now because I sore a little bit.

Speaker 2 (40:04):
You know, for that reason, you're not you're allowed.

Speaker 1 (40:09):
This is a swear free radio station, so you swear
if you need to.

Speaker 12 (40:14):
Right, just not on on the air. But hey, I
I've seen her articles before, so it's no surprise that
she wrote something like this. And are we not taught
that we're going to be judged how we judge others?
You know, I question her authenticity about her membership, and

(40:34):
I shouldn't really say that, but that definitely comes to mind. Yeah,
you know, so anyway, it's just it's not a shock
for her to say it. But like I didn't catch
that guy's name previous.

Speaker 1 (40:47):
Chris Christmas spot On. Yeah, he sure was, He sure was.
All right, Kim, thank you for your call. Eight five
seven o eight zero one zero.

Speaker 2 (40:53):
Well, I think it's a scriptures say judge, not lest
g be a b YU math professor or a Soli
Tribune caline than judge. I think I think that's how
it works. Oh sorry, let's go, let's go see have
to keep you I squirrel wander squirrel, Okay, night you've

(41:14):
been patiently waiting. Mike from Provo, Welcome to the Riding
Greg Show.

Speaker 13 (41:20):
Yeah, guys, I kind of like the rest of the people.
Since I heard that comment, my blood started boiling and
I was like, well, yeah, I'll give them, I'll give
them whatever they want to believe. But I happened to
live with a bunch of neighbors that are in my
award that are professors. We did a service project and

(41:41):
there was a science sitting on one of their lawns,
and I said, are.

Speaker 11 (41:44):
You kidding me?

Speaker 14 (41:45):
They actually vote that way.

Speaker 13 (41:48):
And one of the other gentlemen goes, have you been
living under a rock since you moved to Provo? Most
of the professors for b YU.

Speaker 14 (41:55):
Vote that way, and Michael, boy, here we go.

Speaker 13 (41:59):
So I'm just a little I was a little bug
when I heard that the whole article.

Speaker 3 (42:06):
But they said that.

Speaker 13 (42:07):
I'm like, these people got to get it figured out
because they teach our children and our adults, young adults
the things they teach them, and then when it come
right down to it, they wonder why the suicide race
like it has.

Speaker 1 (42:22):
Like thank you for your phone calls. Interesting to see
what's going on. And I hear this all the time. Greg,
I bet you do too about some of the professors
and to be why you you know.

Speaker 2 (42:31):
And yeah, I'm telling you. We had a great caller
who is a BYU professor call in to just let
you know, let let our listeners know there's at least
some out there. But I got to tell you he's
pretty humble because I got to believe he's outgunned and
out numbered on that campus. It's everything I hear from
there is just frustrating. And you got to be careful

(42:51):
if your parent and your grandparent, your kid might go there.
They get radicalized, a lot of them. All Right, we
want to get you an update on the news, the
traffic and weather the day. Hey, and so we'll take
a break at that, and we've got a lot of
callers hang on the line. We'll get to you as
soon as we can right here on the Rod and
Gregg Show and Talk Radio one oh five nine Knrs
wing Man Wednesday edition of The Rod and Gregg Show.

(43:12):
If you're just joining us now, we're talking about this
column in the Salt Lake Tribune, written by Janee. She
oftentimes writes about issues involving the Church of Jesus Christ,
of Latter Day Saints, and her latest article is about
supporters of Donald Trump. She claimed the headline says, after
Trump's election, Latter Day Saints are on the wrong side
of history, comparing people here in Utah, members of the

(43:34):
LDS Faith who voted for Donald Trump, to maybe those
in Hitler's Germany who accommodated the Nazi leader at the time.
We want to get your reaction to all of this
matter of fact. She ends her column by saint our people,
meaning members of the LDS Faith, on the wrong side
of justice, the wrong side of history, and the wrong
side of the Gospel.

Speaker 1 (43:54):
What do you say? Eight eight eight five seven eight
zero one zero.

Speaker 2 (43:57):
Well, before we go to the callers, I say, bar
to that. That's what I say. I can't evener stand
hearing that just bar boils my blood too. But let's listen,
let's find out what our listeners are thinking. Let's go
to Timothy from Medvale. Timothy, Welcome to the Rodd and
Greg Show.

Speaker 12 (44:13):
Hi.

Speaker 15 (44:14):
So I'm I moved share with my parents when I
was five. They adopted me in Canada and I'm illegal,
but I've lived here my entire life and I don't
see why illegals would come here illegally. It's so hard
to live like I have to get ID. I don't

(44:35):
have it and I can't do anything without it, you know. Yeah,
And I need I need a lawyer, and there's all
those fees, and you.

Speaker 2 (44:44):
Know, Timothy, I appreciate you calling. I think it's important perspective.
I mean, what you're trying to do is you're not
trying to hide, You're not trying to work under the table.
You want to You want to live a life like
any other person in the community, right, yeah, yeah, So
I do think there is a lot of there's a
lot of discussion and a lot of I think political

(45:06):
will to find more to streamline and find better ways
to accommodate people who want to legally immigrate to this
country so that the illegal side of it isn't, you know,
taking advantage of her people pursue it. Well, let's get
that right.

Speaker 1 (45:20):
I agree you talk to Abby Abbey has dual citizenship,
of course, yes, being born and were raised in the UK.
It took her thousands of dollars in years of filling
out forms and hiring attorneys to get legal status here
in the US. We've got to make it simpler than that. Yes,
we've got to be able to do that.

Speaker 2 (45:40):
When I talk to political types, I don't think anyone
has any opposition to making this a more intuitive and
constructive process, because some of it really doesn't make sense.
But until we control a fix the border, what we
don't want to have is someone incentivized across illegally and
then you legalize them, or you then get going, then
you fast tracks on the process where they get it

(46:02):
easier than those that have been trying to follow the
law from day one. The only thing I've heard one
of the ideas proffered out there is if someone self
reports that they came here or are here illegally, that
they self report and leave, that they have access to
this process better than if they're caught and deported then
they don't.

Speaker 1 (46:21):
All Right, back to the phones we go. Let's go
to a Cheryl who's been patiently waiting in Layton to
weigh in on this tonight. Cheryl, how are you welcome
to the Roden Greg Shaw?

Speaker 16 (46:30):
Hi Rod and Greg and Greg I voted for you
for governor. Why weren't you there this time? Anyway?

Speaker 3 (46:36):
Cheryl?

Speaker 2 (46:36):
Thank you?

Speaker 16 (46:39):
Yes, I wish you were there this time. I have
a definite feeling about this. That's why I don't go
to church because I'm opinionated. I'm very much believe in
the LDS religious And this woman, I don't know her,
she has a right to her opinion. But do not
damn me or anyone out to voted for Donald Trump,
because if we had voted for the side, our constitution

(47:02):
was what we were voting for, not one person over another,
one party over another. We voted to save our constitution.
And I think it was Ezra task Benson who said,
the people will say the constitution, not one party or
the other or the government. We saved our constitution. We're
still trying to save it. Keep these people from doing

(47:23):
some We.

Speaker 1 (47:25):
Sure are, s Cheryl. As a matter of fact, I
think someone said he'll be hanging by a thread, and
I think that was a big concern for a lot
of us going into this election. All right, let's go
back to the phone.

Speaker 2 (47:34):
Well, I have to say thank you Cheryl for calling,
and thank you for your incredible insight and instinct. She's
a very smart person, very very interesting. Voted for you
forget Yes, yes, I mean that's when we knew that
we were about to hear some real truth bombs in
this show. Let's go to Patty and Lehigh. Patty, welcome
to the rotting Greg show.

Speaker 17 (47:52):
Yes, regarding the woman who negatively judged LDS members for
supporting Trump and.

Speaker 16 (47:57):
His controlling immigration.

Speaker 17 (48:00):
At the LDS temples, they're all surrounded by big, bad
fences intended to keep out not just members of the church,
non members of the church room members who don't have
their proper uh you know, tempile recommend So there it's borders,
and they vary effectively, and you know, eleminantly enforce that border.

(48:22):
And so then similar to universities that that uh you know,
High and mighty notoriously are anti Trump and pro massive immigration,
and similarly they similar to the senses around the LDS temples.
You can't go to a university and just walk into
a classroom and start learning. You have to be registered

(48:43):
and pay your tuition and all that stuff before you
could even sit in a classroom. So there are some
parallels there, and I think it's really hypocritical for you know,
universities and for the LDS people in the LDS Church
to say, oh, well, you know, we should have the
wide opening borders and not nice against immigrants because they're

(49:05):
in a sense being you know, showing your presence against
people who aren't solid Lucus Nambers canful recommend in order?

Speaker 2 (49:13):
Yeah, right, we're going is Patty's exactly right?

Speaker 1 (49:16):
I got a big wall around my house.

Speaker 2 (49:17):
How about as much scrutiny to get to a Kamala
Harris rally to enter the country because they needed ID.
You can just walk into their own rally. Their campaign
rallies had fences and ID required good.

Speaker 1 (49:28):
A lot more callers coming up on the Rod and
Greg Show and Utah's Talk Radio. One oh five nine
knrs someone who sends columns, a regular columnist at the
Salt Lake Tribune, basically saying that if you're a member
of the LDS faith you voted for Donald Trump, you
were on the wrong side of history, on the wrong
side of the gospel. Eight eight eight five seven oh
eight zero one zero on your cell phone dial pound

(49:50):
two to fifteen and say, hey, Rod.

Speaker 2 (49:52):
Great calls, great great commentary. Let's go back to our callers.
David Holding on I two fifteen, David, thank you for
holding an, thank you for joining us on the Rowden
Greg Show.

Speaker 18 (50:03):
Yes, I am an immigrant and I saw two parties
with completely opposing views. One party want to welcome gains,
want to welcome children with people that weren't always their
adults and refused or their parents, and always stopped the
DNA testing. The other party welcomes immigrants, wants them to

(50:27):
come ready to work and be productive, and they wanted
the DNA testing to protect those children. And that's just
one issue. I mean, we have socialism, we have abortion,
all things that the church opposes. So I find the
commentary in that article to be less ingenuine with the doctor.

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And it seems like she is cherry picking to smear
and attack those who disagree with her.

Speaker 1 (50:56):
Well, I think what she's trying to do, David again,
and this with the Liberals have done all during this
campaign is equate Donald Trump with Adolf Hitler. That's exactly
what I think they're trying to do with the Tribune,
with this columnist.

Speaker 2 (51:07):
And I got to thank you, David, because I think
that I've never heard it phrase that way before. And
you're an immigrant. So you say, there's one party they
like cartels, they like these unaccompanied children, and you know
that is probably child trafficking. There's another party that does
actually welcome immigrants, and I just have you have the
moral authority and you have the authority and perspective to
share that because you're an immigrant. Thank you for your observations.

Speaker 1 (51:30):
Let's head to pat and see what Casey has to
say on this topic tonight, Casey, how are you welcome
to Rod and Greg Daring Gray.

Speaker 19 (51:39):
I mean, there's a list of Raven's life supported term
but if we just stick to like the LDS side
of it, the Church is very clear on two things,
and one is abortion. They're very much pro life. And
the other is a man and a woman. So there's
two genders, that's all there is, and the Church is
clear on that. That's how you have a family, that's
how you procreate. That's everything. To say that you've somehow

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construed this idea that the church is differing on that,
it's just crazy on its own. Just those two facts
alone should have won over every LBM person in the church.

Speaker 1 (52:15):
I totally agree with you, k So you are spot
on with that.

Speaker 9 (52:17):
Right.

Speaker 2 (52:17):
By the way, nationally it does highest demographic of Trump motors.
We're eldie members of the church. He is Christ Lardy
Saints at sixty three percent. Let's go to Dan in Springvale. Dan,
welcome to the Rod and Greg Show.

Speaker 5 (52:28):
Hey, thanks you guys. I appreciate it. The lady that
wrote that article, she really has nothing. She doesn't know
what she's talking about. In the church, we have what
they call the thirteen Articles of Faith.

Speaker 20 (52:42):
Yes, and the number twelve.

Speaker 5 (52:45):
Would you mind if I read it real quick?

Speaker 3 (52:47):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (52:47):
No, if you can do it real quick, I can
hold on.

Speaker 9 (52:55):
Okay.

Speaker 5 (52:56):
Number twelve says we believe in being subject to kings, presidents, rulers,
and magistrates, in obeying, honoring, and sustaining the law. Now
we know that illegal immigration is against the law. So
for her to write an article and point her fingers
at members of the church for this and that and

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talking about, you know, if we voted for Trump or whatever,
that we're on the wrong side of the gospel. She
has no clue what she's talking about. The immigration issue.

Speaker 9 (53:33):
We're right on with it. You know.

Speaker 5 (53:34):
If they want to come in legal, I'm all for it.

Speaker 1 (53:37):
And I think we all are.

Speaker 3 (53:38):
Dan.

Speaker 1 (53:39):
Thank you. I need to cut you short here. We're
up against the break. We've got a lot of other colors.
So what we'll do, Greg is carry this over into
the next The next hour, we'll get a news update.
If you want to hang on, You're more than welcome
to our calls back because we're getting some real insight
into this and how people feel about this. You know,
I personally, when I read this, I was offended by that.
I'm Gospel standing up for the laws of the land

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and say we welcome immigrants. We are a nation of immigrants,
legal immigrants.

Speaker 2 (54:06):
That's right. They conflate immigration with illegal behavior and breaking
the law, and they are not the same and never were,
and they do it they know the difference. They're doing
it in a manipulative way.

Speaker 1 (54:16):
Yeah, and you have to understand Donald Trump. Sometimes he'll
say some crazy things, okay, but what he wants is
an America that is great again, and he knows it
will only be great if we get our control greg
on this immigration issue, which is costing Americans billions of
dollars to try and deal with right now.

Speaker 2 (54:33):
His wife's an immigrant. He doesn't hater guts. I'm telling you.
I can tell. I watched them. They look very they
give each other greekly eyes on the stage. I think
I think the fire's back. Yeah, I'm telling you, I
think ever since that assassination attempt. Those two have been
way getting they've been gett along really well. Google, I
can't I can see it. Yes, Google is.

Speaker 1 (54:53):
Mariar calls and comments here on the Rodden. Great show.
Stay with us. We'll be back after the news update,
traffic and weather updated as well. Stay with us.

Speaker 21 (55:03):
Folks in the navy would know that I know what
you're talking about. Yeah, yeah, I never heard. I never
heard MAVs s carrier. Yeah, I have down in San Diego. Yeah,
they're kind of fun to get on.

Speaker 2 (55:13):
I love it.

Speaker 1 (55:13):
Yeah. Yeah. We extended our discussion on this article in
the Salt Lake t reviewing about how members of the
LDS Faith who are accommodating Donald Trump because of his
really they voted for his economic views, but because of
his immigration policies, and Jane Reeves writes that you know,
our people, meaning members of the LDS Faith, wrong again,

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wrong side of history, justice and the gospel. And we're
taking your calls.

Speaker 2 (55:40):
And I really appreciate the calls. The reason this important
topic and why we're extending it is you're not going
to hear this on any other channel, in my opinion,
and this isn't a national story. And in fact, nationally,
members of the Trigys Christ the Laarday Saints vote in
the highest block for Republicans. And then this last election,
according to exit poles, for Donald Trump was.

Speaker 1 (55:56):
In sixty six percent.

Speaker 2 (55:57):
Yeah, it was sixty three. But I will I'll tell
you this. You get inside of Utah and you think
we are it's an anti Trump state. I mean, it's
used unbelievable some of the media messages that are out
there and some of the leaders that like of Jeff
Blake Romney that seem to think they know everything about
you know, what's moral and what's not. Anyway, let's get
to the callers. Let's hear it from you. Let's go

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to Jim in Riverdale. Jim, thank you for holding in,
Thank you for calling the Ronning Greg show.

Speaker 3 (56:25):
Yeah, guy, its great to be back on the air
with you. It's just so totally ridiculous. This woman, you know,
Christ didn't say to the woman taking an adult tree,
you really shouldn't do that. Let's go to the brothel
and have a party so you don't feel bad about it.
He said, go by way and and no more. Yeah,

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what the governors ought to do is take all the
National Guard and send them down to the border and
lock that thing down between now an inauguration and Biden
will keep the thing wide open, and they are gonna
try and flood in as fast as they can, and
we need to lock it down immediately.

Speaker 1 (57:07):
Yeah, you're a spot on, Jim. There's some good news.
I think the story is Greg that these huge caravans
that were headed our way, about half the people have
dropped out, are going to get in, so we're done.

Speaker 2 (57:18):
And I saw in Texas they're putting Texas, they're putting
their law enforcement in their vehicles and they're staggering them
along that border wall and vulnerable areas because they know
what Jim knows, that they're gonna come over and try
to get here before the inauguration.

Speaker 1 (57:31):
The hammer comes down.

Speaker 10 (57:32):
Yep.

Speaker 1 (57:32):
Back to the phones we go. Let's go to Maddie
in provo. Maddie, how are you welcome to the Rod
and Greg Show.

Speaker 22 (57:40):
Hi, guys, I am doing good. I just really wanted
to comment on that awful.

Speaker 1 (57:46):
Article, Maddie. Before you make your coming, Maddie, before you
make your comment, do you know you become a national star.

Speaker 2 (57:54):
You are famous, Maddie, You are.

Speaker 1 (57:55):
Famous, Maddie.

Speaker 16 (57:57):
Oh no, Oh yeah.

Speaker 1 (57:58):
You called into our show and all of a sudden,
here's Clay and Buck and you're calling into the Klay
and Buck Show. I mean you have become a national star, Maddie.

Speaker 22 (58:07):
Yeah, well that was an amazing experience.

Speaker 2 (58:12):
Well can I tell you, Maddie that I have referred
to you since that election? You actually called the shot.
You told you told us that there were more young
people that were going to vote and get involved and
support President Trump than anyone's ever seen. You called the shot.
And after that election, I looked at those exit those
exit polls, and all I could think of is Maddie
from Provo hit a grand Slam home run. You called

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it all. So tell us what you think about this article.

Speaker 22 (58:39):
So, first off, I hate how First off, it gives
the church bad publicity, which is always bad. But second
it really is going against our main core doctrine in
our church that every person is loved by our divine
parents and our amazing Savior, and not because of their

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love towards us. We are really expected to show love
towards everyone else. And it just it really bothers me
sometimes when people put their political beliefs above their faith,
Because you can't really go around calling people Nazis and
also show the love of Christ yeah to others, and

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so it just it just really bothers me.

Speaker 1 (59:24):
Well, you're spot on, Maddie. Can't go around calling people
Nazis and say you love Christ. Maddie sounds very young,
but she is an old soul. This Maddie just knows
the score. She really is spotting me. Is a smart,
smart lady. Let's go to Brett in Sandy tonight here
on the Rodding Greg Show. Brett, thanks for holding and
welcome to the show.

Speaker 9 (59:44):
Hey guys.

Speaker 14 (59:44):
In addition to the other good comments that have been
shared here, just to other thoughts on this article, I
remember nine to eleven, and there are people that want
to come here and kill us. I believe the last
four years that the I have caught a couple hundred
known terrorists, if I read that correctly, I just wonder

(01:00:06):
how many they haven't caught. Number two, what about all
the drugs that have come in this country? How many
people of this country have died because the drugs that
come across the border.

Speaker 1 (01:00:18):
Yeah, yeah, raised some very good points, right, you're absolutely
right on this. Let's see. Let's go to a Spanish fork.

Speaker 2 (01:00:27):
Okay, k thank you for holding and thank you for
calling the Rotten Gregg Show.

Speaker 10 (01:00:35):
You bad.

Speaker 20 (01:00:36):
So the other day I wasn't paying attention and I
wrapped up some fresh fish in the Salt Lake compune
and by morning it was spoiled.

Speaker 2 (01:00:46):
It's not even worthy of being fish wrap that. You're
exactly right, absolutely.

Speaker 14 (01:00:52):
Yeah, that's right, you bad.

Speaker 9 (01:00:56):
Thanks for your call your program.

Speaker 2 (01:00:58):
Yeah you know what you can't get than that. That's true.

Speaker 1 (01:01:00):
It's not even fish.

Speaker 2 (01:01:01):
It's not even it's not bird cage winer, it's not
it's not fish rap.

Speaker 1 (01:01:05):
It's a good one. Let's go to Eagle Mountain. Robert
wants to weigh on in this delight on the Roden
Greg Joe, Robert, thanks for joining us.

Speaker 9 (01:01:13):
Good even thank you. I was just this argument that
this lady is is that members of the eliest church
for Church of Jesus Christ of Latter day Saints voted
for Hitler. I don't know that that's a fact that
they have been but the argument used the other way.

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I know there are members of the church who voted
for Kamala Harris.

Speaker 1 (01:01:41):
Yes there are who is on the wrong.

Speaker 9 (01:01:43):
Side of the church. So she's just using an argument
that's it's kind of one sided, but there's that other
side that doesn't work that way.

Speaker 1 (01:01:53):
Yeah, yeah, that's for sure, Robert. You know what, Greg,
and if if you vote for Kamala Harris, Let's see,
she was in favor of killing babies, was she she?

Speaker 10 (01:02:01):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:02:01):
She.

Speaker 2 (01:02:02):
I mean remember when someone said Jesus's Lord and she
looked at and said, you're in the wrong rally. Okay,
that's I mean that that side has not been the moral,
you know, guiding light that that some people would tell
you that it is. Let's go to Andrew and Sandy. Andrew,
thank you for holding and welcome to the show.

Speaker 23 (01:02:20):
Hey, I thanks for taking my call.

Speaker 15 (01:02:22):
Mm hm yeah.

Speaker 23 (01:02:24):
I just wanted to share a couple of thoughts. You know,
the last five years or so, I feel like I've
been very polarizing with the LDS community and the church.
You know, I saw the statistics. I think it was
sixty seven percent of LDS members voted for Trump. Well
the other third didn't. And I, to me personally, I

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think that's a reflection of church leadership. I'm an active
member of the church. However, I missed the times where
Joseph Smith all these guys were bold, They were strongly
fought for what was right, they fought for what was true.
And today I don't feel like we get that as much.
There's a lot more tiptoeing her around certain things. However,
when you look at policies, when you look at you know,
Trump's policies or as Kamala's policies, I feel like Trump's

(01:03:08):
policies aligned almost night and day better with church doctor
and gospel doctrine than Kamala's. And so you know this,
this article I think is billy just because that's one
person's opinion, you know, like another previous caller, Set, I
think it's I think it's flipped. I think here on
the other side, you know, if you're a Kamala avouter,
I would say this is more more towards you than

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anything else.

Speaker 1 (01:03:30):
Yeah, you're right, Andrew, thank you. We appreciate your phone
call on it. You know, one number I haven't seen, Greg,
and maybe maybe you've seen this, the percentage of members
of the LD's faith in Arizona and Nevada, and how
that broke out of you because there was such an effort,
you know, Donald Trump, you know, and an effort to
gather those sayings because he knew those states would be

(01:03:51):
very close. I haven't seen a breakdown of that.

Speaker 2 (01:03:53):
I have an I'm particularly interested in Arizona because you
had former Senator Jeff Flake, member of the church, who
was openly endorsing. He wrangled in a couple of LDS
mayors of cities to join him in that, and so
they tried to push that towards the Harris campaign. And
I made fun of this before. First off, you don't

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see this kind of finger pointing and finger wagging from
Republicans that you see with Democrats towards those that voted
for Trump. But you got to appreciate what our callers
are saying. And then even the porno industry was all
in and endorsing Kamala Harris. How do you tether yourself
with the porno industry and say we're the moral side
of this ticket?

Speaker 1 (01:04:35):
I mean, come on, sure, all right? More coming up
on the Rod and Greg Show in Utah's Talk Radio
one o five to nine kN rs, we're talking about
this article written by a columnist in the Salt Lake
Tribune basically saying that after Donald Trump's election, latter daye
Saints again find them on find themselves on the wrong
side of history because of Donald Trump's hard stand on

(01:04:57):
illegal immigration, which we all support. By the way, let's
go back to the phones.

Speaker 2 (01:05:01):
Let's go to Phil on I fifteen. Phil, thank you
for holding in. Welcome to the show.

Speaker 20 (01:05:09):
Hey, I just wanted to address just setting aside being
a church member, for the moment when these people are
coming across. I mean, let's think about all the human
trafficking that's going on, like child trafficking, prostitution, people are
dying on the way, you know that then, and where's

(01:05:32):
all the money going to It's going to cartels along
in the previous color I also talked about drugs, terrorism.
Those are just things. But even when they get here,
then they're discriminated against because they can't earn as much
as you know, a normal amit. They have to fight
for ID I mean, they probably drive with uninsured vehicles.

(01:05:57):
I mean, and then you know it's other things too,
like illegal activity, trying to get security numbers, you know,
the flow of cash back out of this country. There's
a myriad of issues that just and the very fact
that the US government is breaking the law by not
enforcing it.

Speaker 1 (01:06:17):
Yeah, yeah, they sure are. You brought up an interesting point.
There was a this was years ago. There was a
lawmaker Greg who in fact wanted to tax the amount
of money American US dollars being sent out of this
country to people back in Mexico and Venezuela. There was
an effort, yeah, to do that.

Speaker 2 (01:06:33):
Remember that in fact, in twenty sixteen, when the Trump
campaign came through Utah and we were talking about when
you said, and I asked the question, when you say
we'll make Mexico pay for the wall, what do you
mean by that? And they identified how much money gets
wired every single week and if you put this tax on,
if you put a search charge on that money being wired,
the money you would generate for that is unbelievable. And
that was kind of what they were talking about eight
years ago. They could still do it today.

Speaker 1 (01:06:54):
Boy, we need to do it today. Let's go to
Bill in Salt Lake City to night on the Rod
and Gregg Show. Hi, Bill, how are you.

Speaker 9 (01:07:01):
Good? How are you tonight?

Speaker 1 (01:07:02):
We're doing well. Thank you, You're welcome.

Speaker 10 (01:07:07):
In regards to the reaction and the voting of the
LDS Church, I'm wondering if anybody heard from Mitt Romney.

Speaker 14 (01:07:16):
Over the last week, you.

Speaker 1 (01:07:21):
Know, I was thinking about that today.

Speaker 14 (01:07:25):
I think Mitt Romney would have been gloating.

Speaker 24 (01:07:28):
All over TV and radio for every day.

Speaker 2 (01:07:31):
I think you're right.

Speaker 14 (01:07:32):
I think.

Speaker 1 (01:07:34):
He's been quite as a church where is where is?

Speaker 2 (01:07:37):
Where is session? Speech? He needs to give a formal
concession speech because he had so much to say, so much.

Speaker 21 (01:07:45):
And we should play a game Where's Mitt? Where's mitts?
Where's Flake?

Speaker 2 (01:07:49):
To? You got that Jeff Flake character run around there too.
I want to hear their concession speeches on this. But
let's go to Jamison in Salt Lake City. Jamison, welcome
to the show.

Speaker 25 (01:07:59):
Hey, thanks for having me on again. I would just
like to get to the point first. My comment is,
you know, after seeing a couple segments from the view
and you know, articles such as these, it's really kind
of sad and disheartening to see how they are targeting

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certain groups rather childishly just because of the loss of
the election. And I mean, first and foremost too, there
are a lot of people who make this kind of
folk claim that immigration is helping our economy. I mean,
I even saw it was a it was a committee
hearing with ma Orcis where they had basically said, oh, well,

(01:08:42):
you know, they're they're benefiting the economy by fifty billion dollars,
and they were like, no, they're not because it actually
costs US about one hundred and fifty billion dollars in
medicare at a social Security costs, Like they're not. I mean,
and let's let's ask ourselves the absolute prime question. Also,

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why are they allowed to come here? What angle is
this giving? It's it's not benefiting you and I.

Speaker 12 (01:09:13):
But they are a vote.

Speaker 25 (01:09:14):
I mean, that's plain and simple. And you know when
people say, oh, it's disheartening and it's rude that you
know there's ideas about sending them back, it's like, okay,
well all of those people who say that didn't react
very nicely when you know they were bumped into Martha's vineyard.

Speaker 1 (01:09:29):
That's for sure.

Speaker 2 (01:09:30):
Isn't that something You up a good point jameson that,
you know, the left, if it's not in their backyard,
then it's just someone else's problem. And they're actually the ones,
you know, giving themselves a gold star on their forehead
for being so caring. But I'll tell you the ones
that landed in Martha's vineyard, I don't think they lasted
a week. I think they got them in and out
because everywhere are going to have it. H You know,
I'll tell you that there's there. It used to be

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when I when we would deal with this issue of
illegal immigration, we had kind of a chamber of commerce
problem where there were some people that liked the under
the table low than market wages that they could pay people,
and there was a little bit of that push. I
think it's gotten so bad. And I got to tell you,
had Trump not won this election, those fourteen million people
that they that NGOs transported fourteen million people across this

(01:10:14):
country and not coincidentally in two states where they electoral
college wise, they needed a greater advantage to win and
never lose a presidential election again. Had had Trump not won,
I believe that those fourteen million, by executive order or
whatever it would take, would been voting citizens by twenty
twenty years. And then you can say goodbye to any

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of those states. In terms of the everyday Americans being
able to muster enough votes to overcome fourteen million people.

Speaker 1 (01:10:40):
Usually, by the way, we need to come up with
kind of like a rotten Greg badge of courage, because
Jamison deserves a badge of courage.

Speaker 21 (01:10:47):
You know why why he took time to watch the view.
You know that is true, that that is a badge.
Take some courage, man, you know what.

Speaker 1 (01:10:54):
You know Jamison hanging there. Man, you've been damaged for
your entire life by watching you.

Speaker 2 (01:11:00):
But boy, do you get the perspective. They're out there
telling everyone not to go to their family dinners for Thanksgiving.

Speaker 21 (01:11:04):
That's how deranged they become. All right, let's go to
Dane Royd tonight here on The Rodden Greg Show. Hi Dane,
thanks for waiting and welcome to the show.

Speaker 10 (01:11:13):
Hey, thanks for having me. I just think the whole
idea is basically a misconstruction and a lack of understanding
what the LDS faith and doctrine really is. I mean,
clean cut, black and white. We believe in obeying the

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law of the land. Yes, which right now, if I'm
not mistaken, the law of the land is it's illegal
to immigrate, not the improper way.

Speaker 15 (01:11:42):
But if I could just give you this.

Speaker 10 (01:11:44):
LDS member's perspective. When I was younger in my twenties,
I dated a girl from Brazil. At the time I
was dating her, I was really into her. I don't
know if she was quite dumison to me But the
bottom line is, at some point in time it became clear.
She told me, she called me crying, said that she
was going to get deported because her visa was running out.

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She was on a student visa goal in the y
and I fought like tooth and nail to figure out
a way to do what I could to help her
stay in this country. Now, fast forward to where we
are now, I still believe, and having have served a
mission in Argentina and many of my most dear friends

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being from there, I still would like to open my
arms to all the people that can come here that
I know that I don't know the right legal way.
So that's the really the line right there is just
do it legally, and as many as can do it legally,
let's have them all in. That's my perception. Incidentally, does

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anybody know whether Trump would like to make the immigration
laws a little bit? I don't know. If you guys
have ever seen the immigration laws that they are very difficult, Dan, I.

Speaker 1 (01:12:58):
Agree with yeah, both both Greg and I agree on that.

Speaker 2 (01:13:00):
One day, and he has Look, there has been the
saying a tall wall and a wide gate, and there
needs to be a reasonable way for people to be
able to follow the law. And a lot of these
immigration laws, they are so arduous and so hard to
comply with and so bureaucratic. There has to be a
legal way, because there is. If you want people to
follow the law, you've got to give them a law

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that's even practical they can do it.

Speaker 1 (01:13:22):
And Dan, that would be my hope as well, that
as part of we as we look at the immigration issue,
and it can be very complicated at times, but one
of the issues that I think have to be resolved
is modernizing our legal immigration system and not make it
so hard and not make it so expensive. And I
think we can do that today. All Right, more coming

(01:13:43):
up here on the Rod and Greg Show and Utah's
Talk Radio one oh five nine k NRS.

Speaker 2 (01:13:48):
Absolutely, we're the only show.

Speaker 1 (01:13:50):
For the conservative voice in this state that's right in
this town.

Speaker 3 (01:13:54):
Now.

Speaker 2 (01:13:54):
Look, I love competition. If someone wanted to step up
and start acting with some common reads, baby, come yeah,
come and do it. But but I'm telling you that
there's this show. Is why why we have such great listeners,
is this is the place you go for these local
issues that touch on the national issues happening around the country.

Speaker 1 (01:14:11):
That's what we do each and every day. Well, news
came out today. Inflation ticked up again in October. That's
according to a new report on the Consumer Price Index today.
Hopefully Donald Trump contain change this round. I think he will.

Speaker 3 (01:14:23):
Will.

Speaker 1 (01:14:24):
You know, you just got to cut off the federal spending,
you know, and reduce oil prices, you know, get our
energy industry up and going again. You reduce that oil
are the price of gasoline, Greg, It will make a
world of difference. I think to a lot of people.

Speaker 2 (01:14:38):
He's going to We're going to see energy cost go
cut in half, as he promised to do within six months.
You're going to see the petroleum reserve emergency reserve back
and filled up again, topped off like it was instead
of emptied like it is right now from the Biden administration.
You're going to see a lot of good things happening.
I'm telling you it's there is a palpable mood change

(01:15:00):
in this country and even world with the election of Donald.

Speaker 1 (01:15:03):
Well, look what the stock part is done, and look
at all these business leaders.

Speaker 3 (01:15:06):
Greg.

Speaker 1 (01:15:06):
We're saying there's new energy. People feel excited about the
economy and where we're headed with things. Innovation is back
deregulation is on its way.

Speaker 2 (01:15:14):
And we're looking for more caariff thing everyone wants to
lose sleep about. Real people are going to move their
companies and build here, or those companies that don't want
tears going to lower their terrifts for our exports.

Speaker 3 (01:15:24):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:15:24):
Yeah, Well, let's talk more about the economy right now.
Joining us on our Newsmaker line is Kurt Kouchman. Kurt
is a senior fellow in Fiscal Policy IT Americans for Prosperity. Kirk,
thanks for joining us. New inflation numbers came out today.
What do you make of them?

Speaker 24 (01:15:38):
Well, this morning the numbers came out and it shows
that overall inflation is about two point six percent over
the last year, and that's great, a lot of progress
has been made. But core inflation, where you take out
the more volatile prices of food and energy, shows three
point three percent rises in prices over the last year.

(01:15:59):
So that tells you that the still a lot of
inflationary pressure left in the economy, and that's because there
is too much spending borrowing and not enough economic growth.

Speaker 1 (01:16:08):
So is the spending taking place on the government side
or where do you see the spending taking place? Can
you tell at this point, Well.

Speaker 24 (01:16:16):
There's there's the GDP growth, and spending is growing across
the economy. It's a little weaker in some areas than others.
But the spending that's driving the inflation is federal government spending,
because that's what causes the increase in the federal debt
that the Federal Reserve has bought so much of it
is reducing now, but they monetize the debt, and that's

(01:16:37):
what was driving the inflation, along with the slower economic
growth that we were experiencing at the same time.

Speaker 2 (01:16:43):
I have to laugh. One of the regime media reports
on inflation is starting to now say, oh, this inflation
is a concern, and you know it's growing, and we
know this, and you know these Trump tariffs, this is
just going to make it all worse. They're already these
economists who were telling us for a while now the
inflation was either transitory or we were too ignorant to

(01:17:04):
appreciate how well the economy was doing, is now really
looking at this inflation talking about how bad it is.
But they're already pinning it too and forecasting that this
is all going to be the fault of Trump once
he takes office. You know, I know the incation's increasing.
Do you think there's a palpable excitement with this administration
coming in and some of the things that are happening.

(01:17:25):
Bill Ackman, the hedge fund guy, talked about how the
how investors are excited. You're seeing industries have an interest
in moving into the United States. Do you do you
feel like that when Trump takes office, that even by perception,
because that sometimes perception's reality, that we're going to see
a stronger economy quickly and that we can get inflation
under control sooner than later.

Speaker 24 (01:17:46):
That's my expectation. I mean, so much of inflation comes
from there not being enough foods and services to soak
up the money, and so the money has restrained, but
the growth has been sluggish. The Biden administration's regulatory agenda
has been really ambitious, really aggressive, and the Trump administration
seems poised to roll back a lot of those regulations

(01:18:06):
and then some and get Congress involved in changing some
of the laws wherever possible to do that. There's interest
in going beyond merely extending the Tax Cuts and Jobs
Act provisions and making the tax code even more competitive,
even more pro growth. So It's going to be challenging
for them to do that, because you know, the House
is only going to have a very narrow margin, looks

(01:18:28):
like about two hundred and twenty two members. The Senate
is actually going to be easier in some ways, but
they've got a lot of work ahead of them. But
I think the general sense is that things are going
to pick up.

Speaker 1 (01:18:38):
There was an opinion piece today in the Wall Street
Journal talking about the Trump economic awakening, Kurt, and it
said traditional policies like tax cuts, targeted aid, and responsible
spending can deliver stronger growth.

Speaker 24 (01:18:51):
Do you agree absolutely. I mean the recipe to stronger
growth is to have government doing its core purposes efficiently,
not doing things that are wasteful, not doing things that
shouldn't be doing, to support the private sector, and otherwise
get out of its way. And that's part of what
pro growth tax reform is, that's part of what regulatory
right sizing is. Some regulations have a benefit, some go

(01:19:13):
too far, and if you bring the ones that go
too far back to where they actually have a purpose,
then that's great. And I think we're going to see
so much potential being unleashed to provide better goods and
services that the American people actually want rather than the
political class in DC.

Speaker 2 (01:19:30):
So what's your prediction. I don't know as the president
as president elect picked at someone for Treasury yet, do
we know who that is? Who do you think the
President will continue? These announcements are coming so quickly, we're
hearing them all yesterday and today. Do you have a
favorite or do you have someone that you're hoping to
see in that administration going forward?

Speaker 24 (01:19:50):
I don't have a favorite. I have heard that the
President is considering several people from the Wall Street world,
and that's fine. There's a lot of Treasury does to
interface with that world. But you know, the overall mission
is to work with Congress to unleash American potential and
to really create opportunities for people to succeed and flourish

(01:20:11):
wherever they might be.

Speaker 1 (01:20:12):
Court, let me ask you about this announcement by the
President yesterday concerning shrinking the size of government with Elon
Musk and Vivek Ramaswami. If they're successful in doing this,
and these are businessmen, they're going to want results. I
heard one report out today suggesting they may have some
initial plans as early as next summer to get things
going here. If they are able to shrink the size

(01:20:33):
of government and control spending, what kind of impact could
that have on the economy.

Speaker 24 (01:20:38):
It would be a huge boost. When government does more
than it showed or does it inefficiently, that creates burdens
on the private sector because ultimately all that stuff has
to be financed from somewhere. And when the regulations get
in the way of people providing something that somebody else wants,
you know, voluntary exchange, then you're destroying value. So when

(01:20:59):
you stop destroying value, then that that's a benefit for people.
So yeah, that's what happens. When you get out of
the way and have government focused on what's supposed to
be doing, then you see good things happen. And the
innovation that Elon Musk has been fantastic about driving in
the private sector, we can see a lot more of that,
and that'd be exciting.

Speaker 1 (01:21:19):
The opportunity to encourage innovation and cut down on regulations,
which I hear is just burdening everybody. I would think
that would make a significant change and real enthusiasm on
the part of the market. Am I correct in assuming that?

Speaker 5 (01:21:34):
Yeah?

Speaker 24 (01:21:34):
I think that's right. I mean the state of Utah
has crushed it on a number of scorecards to compare
the different states. And that's because you all understand that,
and you embody that through your practices, and your state
legislators and your governor are always looking, hey, how can
we do even better than we're doing right now? I
saw one of the most recent things is you all
sued the federal government for all the unappropriated lands, so

(01:21:56):
the Utah can actually control that land.

Speaker 3 (01:21:58):
And that's awesome.

Speaker 1 (01:22:00):
Kurd Couchman with the organization Americans for Prosperity, talking about
the inflation numbers today nine he recognize Utah. What we're
trying to do here in the state of Utah. I
control those lands back.

Speaker 2 (01:22:11):
I know we have to get the word out. This
is our window, folks. I mean, if we were ever
going to see the state and we got to this
state's going to grow. But you can't keep shoehorning everybody
into this valley called the Wasatch Front. It's the quality
of life is going down, the cost of living is
going up. We have an entire state. We should be
able to see use it. Young people that live in
rural counties be able to live there and not have
to move away because there is an opportunity, and I

(01:22:32):
hope for my kids, if they can't afford to live
in the Wasatch Front, they would have some opportunities somewhere
in our state and not have to leave the state.
So yeah, these lands issues are absolutely critical.

Speaker 1 (01:22:44):
All right, more coming up, final segment of the Rod
and Greg Show. Right here on Utah. It's Talk Radio
one oh five nine knrs. You're not the bossom me. Well,
you kind of are, but you can't. Just trying to
point out some of your weaknesses.

Speaker 23 (01:22:57):
You know what.

Speaker 2 (01:22:57):
First off, I didn't ask. Second, they're not weaknesses.

Speaker 1 (01:23:01):
Well you were showing me what. But something about body language?

Speaker 2 (01:23:05):
Well it was on Yes, but I'm not guilty of
that body language. I was accused of it by but
I'm not you sure, folks, it's it's body language. It's
supposed to suggest that you're arrogant. I don't know, I don't,
I do not. I do not do the body language
it says you're arrogant, because I'm not arrogant. I'm just humble.
Ask me, I'll tell you, Okay, I'll tell you Okayes.

Speaker 1 (01:23:29):
You know, there has been a story after a story
about all these these stars and these well known celebrities
move leaving the guests because of Donald Trump. Yes, well,
we have an opposite version of that story. One of
the richest people in the world is moving to the
United States because of O'donald Trump. I love story. Australian

(01:23:49):
billionaire Anthony Pratt, who, by the way, as a member
of Trump's private mar Alago Club. Or are we members
of that?

Speaker 2 (01:23:56):
We got to get to mar Aloge. I'll tell you that.

Speaker 1 (01:23:57):
Yeah, he has a net worth of twelve point three billion.
He's doing okay. He was granted a green card for
permanent residency last month. He's he's moving. That's you know,
he's one of the uh let's see. He ranks number
two hundred and seven in Bloomberg's list of five hundred
of the wealthiest people in the country.

Speaker 2 (01:24:18):
I used to live in Australia a zillion years ago
and it was a it was a rough and tumble place.
They seem to be really independent minded. But now that
it sounds like my friends that live there and are
Australian say, it's gone super woke. Oh really, it got
One of my friends lives born and raised in Melbourne, Australia.
He says the place is totally liberal.

Speaker 1 (01:24:35):
But I can't see Native men in Australia being woke.
He doesn't fit, you know what. But I'll tell you
what I think, because that their heritages. They were all
started as criminals. They're just they're in their DNA. They're
used to being told what to do and they I'll
tell you, he literally when they went through COVID, they
only had a few minutes they could be outside.

Speaker 21 (01:24:55):
Its crazy, all right, been fun shows, yes, head up,
shoulders back, Make God blessed you and your family and
this great time three hours.

Speaker 1 (01:25:02):
Jesse Kelly is next. We'll be back tomorrow. Before enjoy
the evening.

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