The Rod and Greg Show: Rationalizing Political Violence; Trump Deregulation Record; Memorial for Charlie Kirk

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
I'm brought our citizen, Greg Hughes a little mixed emotion
at the moment. Uh, it's the Ryder Cup.

Speaker 2 (00:05):
Can I tell people what I saw a while ago?

Speaker 1 (00:08):
I don't know what I've been. There's a lot to
have been seen. I don't know what you're about to say.

Speaker 2 (00:13):
Now, you're you are really into this rider.

Speaker 1 (00:16):
Club, Well, it's yours, it's you know I am. I
am a patriot. Yes, we have to win this.

Speaker 2 (00:21):
You're watching on the screen and someone missed a putt.

Speaker 1 (00:23):
Can't We missed a three and a half put yeah,
three and a half and you but gimme putt.

Speaker 2 (00:27):
You threw yourself on the floor like you were having
a temper tant.

Speaker 1 (00:31):
I fell on the floor.

Speaker 2 (00:32):
No, you did not fall on the floor. You threw
yourself on the floor.

Speaker 1 (00:36):
Well I didn't cry, but I did fall to the
floor in an absolute shock and anger. That he missed
a three and a half foot putt. That guy must
make eight hundred thousand of those in his career, and
we would have went one up right there. It was
a very critical moment in this in this Ryder Cup.
We lost three only one one in the morning, and
now we'll be lucky if we split these two.

Speaker 3 (00:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (00:57):
Uh And anyway, I think Tom Hill one needs to
go there and just tell these Americans. Look, if you
can't represent this country, I'm going to remove you. I
just just deport them if they can't. If they can't
represent this country, I don't even know why they're citizens.

Speaker 2 (01:09):
If you ever invite me to your home to watch
a Steelers game, I will decline.

Speaker 1 (01:15):
Yeah, you might want to watch it a Steelers game.

Speaker 2 (01:18):
If you're bad watching the Ryder Cup, you're watching a
Steelers game.

Speaker 1 (01:22):
It does, it does. It does for for the your
celebration as well as for the misery. I feel both
just as deeply. But come on, it was a Ryder Cup.
We have got to win this. I mean I can't
even believe it's a game. I can't believe that Europe
came out as strong as he did. But we'll see,
we'll see. How We've got one more match. I've got

(01:42):
this on my YouTube, on my little my iPad, playing
this last hole right now. Then then when this is over,
I can concentrate better.

Speaker 2 (01:49):
But we've got to be able to consentrate on the
show today. Or should we just ignore you for a
little while?

Speaker 1 (01:53):
I think we might want to do. We want to
play this live no on the because it's that important.

Speaker 2 (01:58):
We cannot we cannot play a.

Speaker 1 (01:59):
Lot, but it's important USA win this last match, the
last hole.

Speaker 2 (02:02):
We'll see. Are you gonna go crazy if they win
this last hole?

Speaker 1 (02:05):
Yes, I will celebrate very loud on Hopefully it's a
commercial break. So our listening audience is.

Speaker 2 (02:10):
I want to hear you scream with joy. All right, well,
we've got a great show of lining up for you
today as you work your way into the weekend. We'll
talk about Jimmy Kimmel, We're going to talk about James Comy.
We're going to talk about what's going on in our
universities today. A wonderful story today by Phil Wegman. Phil
is the White House correspondent for Real Clear Politics, and

(02:30):
he sat down for a lengthy interview with Linda McMahon,
who is the Education Secretary, talking about you know, her
role and what she's trying to do. I think you'll
find that fascinating as well. So we've got a lot
to get to today, so we invite you to be
a part of the program. We'll open up the phones
to you of course today as we do each and
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(02:50):
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us a message on our talkback line by simply downloading
the iHeart Radio app. All right, I want to start
off the show today. You just came back from Southern Utah. Yes,
you're down there with the sheriffs. This weekend is Southern

(03:11):
Utah Pride Weekend. I'm surprised you didn't say.

Speaker 1 (03:14):
It kind of contradicts the brand of which I have
been bragging about Southern Utah and Washington County being it's
a little more the leftist as I didn't see them
and I looked, they have emerged in force today. They're
out loud and proud.

Speaker 2 (03:28):
Yeah they sure well. I bring that up because of
this now, Libs, Libs of TikTok, is that what it's called. Yeah,
Libs of TikTok send out this flyer today, Greg and
I brought this to you. It is a flyer promoting
a drag show coming up next Wednesday. Okay at Utah
Tech University.

Speaker 1 (03:48):
A state institution institution.

Speaker 2 (03:50):
Of higher learning, as it is described in this flyer
that was sent to us, a night of fashion, talent,
and fun. Expect dazzling looks, sparkling faces, and unforgettable performance.

Speaker 1 (04:06):
Oh and if you're worried, you can there is an
option that you can sign waivers so you can bring
your kiddos, your kids to this, if you want to
bring your kids this drag show.

Speaker 2 (04:16):
So my question is, what on earth is a state
supported constant facility like Utah Tech University putting on a
drag show.

Speaker 1 (04:26):
Well, it's a good question. I mean I think this.
Look here, here's what you got to know though, these
drag shows they've been trying to make they've been trying
to really rub this this community the wrong way for
a while now. HBO covered this I think last year
or something. They think it's fun to go into conservative
communities and just absolutely just hammer over the head this

(04:46):
these drag shows and all of this stuff. So they're
on campus right now. I really don't know what the
what the irrationale is. I don't know why a state
institution of higher learning has to make itself available for this.

Speaker 2 (05:00):
My guess this.

Speaker 1 (05:02):
I think it's a mockery.

Speaker 2 (05:03):
My guess Greg they are they it is join the
annual lgbt Q plus student Organization drag Show. So apparently
if it's an organization recognized by the university that they
can use university facilities, does that makes sense?

Speaker 1 (05:18):
Yes, it does.

Speaker 2 (05:19):
But that could be it.

Speaker 1 (05:22):
There you go, folks, yep, I know tax dollars. They
were Dixie State University, and they somehow and you'd have
to blindfold yourself to be in that area and not
see Dixie everywhere on the side of mountains and everywhere.
Just Dixie Road, Dixie Boulevard, I mean, Dixie Pharmacy, you
name it. Everything's Dixie. But somehow someone got it in
their head that we got to take this name off

(05:42):
the school. Yeah, it's it's racist. But that wasn't a
good tell. By the way, all happening after I'm off
the clock, because when I was there, when I was
on the clock, this stuff doesn't happen.

Speaker 2 (05:53):
It wouldn't have happen.

Speaker 1 (05:54):
This is yeah, it's it all went to pot.

Speaker 2 (05:56):
Yeah after I left. Well, uh, speaking of happening, Jimmy
Kimmel is back on the air.

Speaker 1 (06:05):
Well yeah, well he was. He came back on the
air for some but then you had you had Next
Star and Sinclair, which would represent about sixty or seventy
affiliate stations, it said, now we're not playing it. But
that's changed, hasn't it.

Speaker 2 (06:17):
Yeah, Sinclair and Next Star both announced today that they
will put Jimmy Kimmel's show back on tonight. Have they have?

Speaker 1 (06:25):
They said? What has changed between No earlier this weekend?

Speaker 2 (06:28):
Have seen anything come out yet?

Speaker 1 (06:30):
Because he came on on Tuesday they weren't doing it.
I asked some people in the media that I know,
what's the relationship there? Can these affiliates actually choose their
own programming during that time, and it's typical. It's understood
that they cannot. If you are an affiliate of NBC, ABC,
CBS and they have programming, your affiliate station is expected
to cover that. The only exception had been when NBC

(06:53):
became KSL went from CBS to NBC. They didn't want
to they didn't want to carry Satura Night Live, so
that that was the one except anyone remembers, and even
now I think KSL does carry Saturday Night Live. But
that was that was the one exception. Everyone else was
expected to do it. So it was kind of a
It was kind of a brinkmanship or kind of a
I don't know, a negotiation. I don't know how those went.

(07:15):
Maybe maybe they're told, hey, we're getting this show's losing
money anyway, just hang with us now, we'll just cancel
the show soon enough. I mean, if you've canceled Colbert,
which was getting more viewers a night, and you were
hemorrhaging money and you were CBS, I don't know how
ABC keeps this show on.

Speaker 2 (07:29):
Well, I come to the question, then what was this
all about? He didn't apologize. He's back on the air
after what a week? So what what did What was
achieved in all of this?

Speaker 1 (07:38):
My hope is that something was. We're just not privy
to it. In other words, are you going to come
off the air?

Speaker 2 (07:44):
Do you think he's going to change?

Speaker 4 (07:46):
No?

Speaker 1 (07:46):
I don't think he is.

Speaker 2 (07:47):
I think he'll be off the air. Maybe his contract
ends this year.

Speaker 1 (07:51):
I do. I would imagine that they didn't just have
one opinion one day turned to the other opinion the
next day. But they're not letting those negotiates become public,
at least not yet. But I think that what this
is is he's probably going the same route as the
Colbert show. Remember he was canceled, but he's still going
till May of twenty six.

Speaker 2 (08:11):
And May he'll take him through the spring book.

Speaker 1 (08:13):
Yeah, so that's still happening. And I could see the
same scenario being described to Sinclair and Next Star, and
that's why they're going to go back on because they
know that they're not going to have to put up
with this for much longer.

Speaker 2 (08:24):
I don't know. I don't know, Greg. I just I
asked myself, what did we achieve? I mean, you've got
to say something, You've got to say this is wrong.
But if there are no consequences, and there don't appear
to be. He was off the air for what four days?

Speaker 1 (08:36):
That's why I think.

Speaker 2 (08:37):
You know, so what did we achieve?

Speaker 1 (08:39):
If we didn't hear the tree fall in the woods?
Did it still fall? It still fell? So my thing is,
I agree with you. If nothing was accomplished, then what
a waste of time and energy and everything. So I
have to believe something's been accomplished. I just don't know
what it is. Because you know, corporations, stations can have
negotiations with a network that we are not sitting there

(08:59):
understanding what it is. They had to come to some
kind of agreement. Something had to be agreed upon for
those positions to change. We just don't know what it is.

Speaker 2 (09:06):
Well, they said, you know when who was it? Sinclair
said they were going to put them back on. They
said they were in negotiations with ABC to find a
solution to this, but they didn't explain what those negotiations
were or what they got out of it.

Speaker 1 (09:21):
Yeah, And I just I would hope that.

Speaker 2 (09:23):
Because I'm just I'm scratching my head. Go Okay, we
raised such a stink about all of this, and he
didn't apologize, and he's back on the air, and he's
back on the air bashing Donald Trump again and any
conservative that believes in Donald Trump. So what do you
get out of it?

Speaker 1 (09:40):
Yeah? I just yeah, I I don't know. I just
don't know, neither do I.

Speaker 2 (09:46):
All Right, now, when we come back, we'll talk about
our favorite James Comey coming up on the Rod of
Greig Show and Utah's Talk Radio one oh five nine knrs.
The President earlier today, before leaving for the Ryder Cup
said it is justice revenge, talking about the indictments handed
down or up yesterday against former FBI director James Comy.

Speaker 1 (10:07):
It is. It's look, it's hard to see them, you know,
raidmar al Lago indict nineteen was six was what I
say is nine nineteen people that the President Trump himself
and the rest members of the administration. Peter Navarro, who
went to jail h and was part of that that
weaponizing of the DOJ, spoke about how everybody in that

(10:28):
Trump administration once that term was over, was facing, you know,
the attack of the DJ and the weapon losing their
their household, month, their resources, their their finances were being
crushed as they were being all attacked at the same time.
To see all that happen and not have amnesia to
see now this this indictment of Comy now being framed

(10:49):
the way it is, and all the screeching going on
with the regime media. It the double the selective logic,
the selective outrage is just again. It's it's like not
caring that Charlie Kirk was assassinated, or you want to
make an excuse for it, or you want to even
celebrate it. And then when your friends, when your leftist
friends show gets just suspended, you lose your ever living mind.

(11:11):
Saying the death of free speech, just the change in tone.
If it's right of center versus left of center, you'll
lose all credibility. You'll lose all credibility. And James Comy,
it's everybody wants to make this about a personality contest.
Whether you know you like Trump or not, we get it.
You hate Trump, so anything Trump does we know. But
can we get away from the fact you hate Trump?
And let's look, is it legal to lie to Congress?

(11:34):
Yes or no?

Speaker 4 (11:35):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (11:35):
Well, let's go back to I think if September thirtieth,
five years ago. Okay, okay, five years ago, this coming Tuesday,
this is Ted Cruz questioning James Cony Comy before a
Senate committee.

Speaker 5 (11:46):
Chairman Grassley asked you, point blank, quote, have you ever
been an anonymous source in news report about matters relating
to the Trump investigation or the Clinton in investigation? You responded,
under oath quote never. He then asked you, quote, have
you ever authorized someone else of the FBI to be
an anonymous source in news reports about the Trump investigation

(12:09):
or the Clinton administration? You responded again under oath No. Now,
as you know, mister McCabe, who works for you, has
publicly and repeatedly stated that he leaked information to the
Wall Street Journal.

Speaker 4 (12:23):
Who's telling the truth. I can only speak to my testimony.
I stand by what the testimony you summarized that I gave.
I'm not going to characterize Andy's testimony, but mine is
the same.

Speaker 2 (12:33):
Today. There you go, there's the shoot now, greg a
question I have and Comey has responded to this. We'll
play that audio soundlide in just a second. But is
this case going to come down to his he said,
she said kind of scenario?

Speaker 1 (12:47):
Or do you'll think there's more evidence that one hundred percent?
There's more evidence. We know this because they uncovered as
this new administration is taking over this Arctic Hase operation
Arctic case, which was in fact pulling in any more members,
senior members of the FBI and doing exactly what McCabe
confessed to doing, and that is under the direction of
James Comy leaking information to the media. Those people, I'll

(13:11):
just there's James, There's there's five people, but the name
that you'd probably recognize, if you recognized any of them,
would be James Baker, who was the attorney, the lead
attorney for the FBI during that time. All of these
people have have said and this is why they did it.
By the way, they don't. They weren't trying to create
evidence to incriminate themselves. They were being directed by James

(13:32):
Comy to do something they knew wasn't legal. So they
documented who was telling them to do this if this
exact day we arrived, okay, exactly, So they created they
created this to cya moment because they were being directed
to do something by the director of the FBI that
they knew was not legal. That they've that they've actually
have indicted, charged and successfully prosecuted people for doing what

(13:57):
their they themselves were doing. So you've got a number
of these people, why aren't they in the indictment right now? Well,
I learned from the the lalloon Jack Smith who was
going after Trump, you can have superseding indictments, and so
as this as the statue of limitations is coming close,
you have a two count indictment. I am pretty sure
that that are going there are going to be superseding

(14:18):
indictments that include a number of the FBI officials, senior executive,
senior officials who were instructed by Kmy to leak information
to the to the media. And look is again going
back we don't have to overthink it. We know that
the leftists hate Trump. We know that everyone's going to
say that it's just Trump trying to find revenge, seek revenge,

(14:39):
retribution whatever. Or is it legal to lie to Congress?

Speaker 2 (14:42):
Yes?

Speaker 1 (14:42):
And then it is. So then you can say, well, McCabe,
we don't trust him, Well doant? Do you trust James
ribi Kee he's a former chief of staff, He was
Comeey's chief of staff. Do you trust James Baker? He
was the general counsel Andrew McCabe. You say you don't trust, well,
then there's another gentleman that's been thrown in the mix.
That's his friend Daniel Richmond, who is a Columbia law professor,

(15:03):
all of which have stated that they were directed by
him to do it.

Speaker 2 (15:07):
And it was Richmond who colly allegedly directed McCabe to
leak information too. That's right at Columbia. So, okay, you
know it's going to be an interesting case. I read
some people saying this is not a slam dunk. He's
got a lot of work to do on this, but
if nothing else, it shows the American people that Donald
Trump believes in accountability and he's trying to find that accountability.

(15:30):
Here's what Comy said in his defense in a statement
he released yesterday.

Speaker 4 (15:34):
My family and I have known for years that there
are costs to standing up to Donald Trump, but we
couldn't imagine ourselves living any other way. We will not
live on our knees, and you shouldn't either. Somebody that
I love dearly recently said that fear is the tool
of a tyrant. And she's right. But I'm not afraid,

(15:58):
and I hope you're not either. I hope instead you
are engaged, you are paying attention, and you will vote
like your beloved country depends upon it, which it does.
My heart is broken for the Department of Justice, but
I have great confidence in the federal judicial system. I'm innocent,

(16:20):
So let's have a trial and keep the faith.

Speaker 2 (16:24):
Keep the faith, baby. And fear is a tyrant. Boy,
they love that word. Tyrant, fascist, hitler, Nazi. Anything they
can do to label Donald Trump, that's what they use.

Speaker 1 (16:35):
Well, you know, just take when when when Donald Trump
was indicted, he says, it's a good day for the
rule of law. Yeah, he sat down with Pasuki and
he said, I can't wait to see him in jail
and he's going to have his own little place, and
he's going to walk around inside the prison facility, and
it's and he described what he thought the day in
the life of an imprisoned president would look like. He
was down to that level. Was that to cement fear?

(16:58):
Was that meant to do the very things he's saying now?
I think so if you were to hear and I
was looking at it, but I can find why. He
said it was very very important to indict, to charge, indict, prosecute,
and imprison Martha Stewart for lying. And he said, it's
really important that you do these cases because people need

(17:19):
to know that lying to federal authorities and lying against Yeah,
and when you're under oath, lying is a serious crime.
And if we and if we're we prosecute her, people
will see how important that is. So it's good for
the goose, it's good for the gander. Pal. I think
you fit in the same category as you opined righteously
about Martha Stewart. You're in the same camp. You cannot

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lie to Congress.

Speaker 2 (17:43):
More coming up it is the Friday edition of The
Rotten Gregg Show right here on Utah's Talk Radio one
on five. Dying k NRS.

Speaker 1 (17:50):
You know we're gonna get on too. We're gonna have
a great interview here before we do. I just and
what maybe we'll come back to this issue of James Comy.
But here's the point I wanted to make before we
went to the break, and I didn't get a chance,
and that is I think that President Trump owes it
to the American people. It's very difficult to see where
he's perjured himself, where he lied to Congress, where some
of these documents that the new administration has discovered in

(18:11):
burn bags and whatever it may be, Where there has
been lying to the Congress, that Kombe was planting stories
with the New York Times and others, and not at
least attempt to seek justice. I think he owed it
to the American people that if we were they were
going to be transparent and show where crimes were occurred
had occurred. There needs to be this attempt to indict him,
you know, juries or juries. We'll see what happens, but

(18:32):
get away from the personalities, go to the facts and
see if this case can be tried. I think it
will be. And I again, I think he owes it
to the American people to not just show what was
done that was illegal, but you have to do something
about it, and that's where justice is being prettec.

Speaker 2 (18:45):
Well, I see. You know the point is, you know
Trump said throughout his campaigns, both campaigns, that the DOJ
had been weaponized against him, and those charges were repeated
over and over again, not only by President Trump by
but by others.

Speaker 6 (18:59):
Right.

Speaker 2 (18:59):
Yes, Well, like you just pointed out, now we get
a chance to see if, in fact, they were weaponized
against him, because the evidence will come out and the
American people will have to decide he was right or
he was wrong. But I think he owes it to
the American people to find out what actually happened, and
I think that's what he's trying to do.

Speaker 1 (19:15):
It's not even a coin flip. I you can find
a twenty eighteen of this investigative journalist talking about the
things that she's uncovered where she believed that there is
a leakage that they leaked sensitive information. They come and
find this FBI operation which absolutely describes what they were
saying in twenty eighteen had happened. They're finding documentation inside
the FBI saying that that did happen. I don't know

(19:36):
how that's a hard thing to try at that point.

Speaker 2 (19:38):
So well, let's just see, now, how many times have
we heard people say on this show, Greg Az, we
talked about kids going off to college. They go off
to college, they love America, they love their family. They
come home and they head everything about it.

Speaker 1 (19:51):
Yeah, it's like a Walking Dead episode. They got bit
by a zombie and they're coming back and just like slumber,
you know, lumbering into the house.

Speaker 2 (19:57):
Well, how are college courses rash political violence? Joining us
on our Newsmaker line right now is Jay Green, a
senior research fellow at Heritage talking about that. Jay, thank
you very much. What is happening to our students? What
is going on on college campus? What are they reading? Jay?

Speaker 6 (20:13):
Are a large number of radicals who engaged in political violence,
who are assigned in college courses and are treated favorably,
are lauded in these courses, and so it's not surprising
that young people might come to think that political violence

(20:33):
is acceptable because they're taught about role models in college
courses who also engaged in political violence, including people like
Angelou Davis, Bill Ayres, and Assadag Chakor.

Speaker 1 (20:47):
So here's I saw this through that I've been watching
a lot of Charlie Kirk videos since September tenth, and
there's a couple of times where he's on these campuses
and these young people he put lets people that are
liberal come to the front of the line and they
challenge him on free markets or they challenge him on something,
and he says, tell me the economists that you're studying
in school, and they really can't, off the top of

(21:08):
their head name give a name. So he says, what
about Frederick Bostier, I've never heard of him? What about
John Maynard Keynes? Oh, yes, I know that one, he says. So,
this is what's happening to you. You are just getting
a leftist view of the economy. And you knew the name,
at least you knew the name, but you didn't know
anything about Boss Tier. So my question is, to your
exact point, whatever the curriculum is, is there any chance,

(21:33):
unless you're going to Hillsdale College, that you're going to
have a really a level playing field of different philosophies,
different a diversity of thought in these institutions of higher learning.

Speaker 6 (21:43):
Look, we know that that higher education is ideologically imbalanced
as a whole. Now that doesn't mean that everybody who
goes to college is unable to find classes that are reasonable.

Speaker 1 (21:54):
They can.

Speaker 6 (21:55):
It's just that it's harder than it should be, and
particularly our vone kids may fall into a trap of
taking some courses where they get recruited into a cult.
And it's not just a cult of leftism, it's a cult.

Speaker 2 (22:11):
Of violent leftism.

Speaker 6 (22:13):
And that's what's important about reading people I handled Davis
and Bill Airs and Assada Kour is that they were
all involved in political murder and and uh, and that
that violence is considered respectable in the courses where they're assigned.

Speaker 2 (22:33):
All Right, all right, Jay, I'm gonna blame in the
baby boomers because those names all came up when I
was growing up in the late sixties and.

Speaker 4 (22:39):
Said the way.

Speaker 1 (22:41):
And Rod, it is all his fault is.

Speaker 2 (22:45):
Jay, It's the boomer's fault that we have this in
college courses, because I would imagine a lot of these
college professors who are using this information are also baby boomers?
Am I wrong? In that?

Speaker 6 (22:56):
You are not wrong? Although you know every every every
generation though, has its its.

Speaker 1 (23:05):
Politically violent people.

Speaker 6 (23:07):
The question is whether that generation chooses to embrace those
politically violent people. As heroes, as role models to teach
our younger people about. And for some reason, college courses
have an unusual number of these these violent role models.
And yes, they were all involved in revolutionary movements in

(23:30):
the sixties and seventies. So the Weather Underground, the Black Panthers,
and the Black Liberation Army were their revolutionary movements. I
should note, by the way, that Assada Cha Court just
died yesterday in exile in Cuba after she escaped from
prison after being convicted of murder. And yet her memoir
that was written in exile in Cuba is assigned in

(23:53):
almost five hundred polic courses in the U.

Speaker 7 (23:56):
States.

Speaker 1 (23:57):
So let me ask you this, because you're right, we
have these kids coming out of college radicalized. Is it
nuanced where they are drawing the conclusion that violence is
actually okay? Or is it just blatantly being said to
these students that this is the is the case. I'm
just wondering, how do they how are they so successful,
even if they're leftists, getting these young people so radicalized.

Speaker 6 (24:21):
Well, I think they talk about values that justify violence,
things like justice or or opposing fascism, and so there's
there is a context built around these people that allow
young people to imagine that they too are revolutionaries for
the cause of justice and fighting fascism. And the difficulty

(24:44):
is they don't even understand what justice requires, they don't
understand what fascism is, and so whatever they dislike just
fits into the thing that that is justifiable for them
to use violence. Again, so if if they don't like
ICE picking up legal immigrants, then they think shooting at ice,
you know, officials, is totally legitimate.

Speaker 1 (25:06):
Jae.

Speaker 2 (25:06):
Let me ask you this, and Greg and I have
talked about this on the show many times. The mindset
of young people today, they almost feel now like the
system is rigged against them. Capitalism isn't working, free enterprise
isn't working. They can't afford to get into a home
there in debt because of college and go you know,
the list goes on and on. Is that's what attracting
these kids or for these kids to read this material

(25:27):
and go Now, that makes sense because I'm feeling the
same way.

Speaker 6 (25:31):
I see again, I think that the average young person
goes through college without getting radicalized. So we should take
some comfort from the fact that this isn't everyone, not
all young people, not all college students. Many of them
are quite sensible and normal. The difficulty is that we
have a large number of vulnerable young people who feel

(25:52):
oppressed or feel like the world is rigged against them
for reasons that you describe. But frankly, every generation could
list challenges that it faces and everyone could think the
world is rigged against them. But the truth is the
world generally gets better. I mean, you know, if we
look at the material conditions of the United States today

(26:14):
compared to fifty years ago or one hundred years ago,
we're a lot richer and we have technological innovations that
are amazing.

Speaker 5 (26:22):
So the world.

Speaker 6 (26:23):
Is is is a wonder before us if we can
approach it positively, But people might poison us into seeing
the world as a negative place where we need to
resort to violence to change that.

Speaker 2 (26:39):
Jay, thank you very much for joining us as Jay Green,
Senior Research Fellow at Heritage. Talking about the curriculum, the syllabus,
so to speak, that are kids in higher education following
the books they're reading.

Speaker 1 (26:53):
Yeah, it's I think it's a I think it's a
steady drum beat, and I think our kids are identifying
with it, and there they see it, they can stay
away from it, or they can be radicalized by it.
But it's all we're seeing it happen in real time.

Speaker 2 (27:06):
We sure are all right. More coming up on the
Friday edition of The Rod and Greg Show on Talk
Radio one oh five nine can restless. What a great
weekend we've gotten, star I can't someone have called this
the great someone I don't know about this label, maybe
a little hyperbole, the greatest sports weekend ever.

Speaker 1 (27:21):
Well, I think it's a bit of us. I think
you've got the baseball playoffs, all these ramifications happening. Every
game matters for some teams. You've got some great matchups
in college, you got some great matchups in the NFL,
and then you got the Ryder Cup, which man, I
am America must prevail. We hot. We are now two
and a half to fight the Europeans of filthy Europeans.

(27:43):
At five and a half points, we only have two
and a half. We got to have a big comeback trail.

Speaker 2 (27:47):
Did we lose last time two years ago?

Speaker 6 (27:49):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (27:50):
Yeah it was it was in Rome. Remember that it
was a stupid golf courses in Rome. Yeah, I guess
who cares? Well? I losing on their soil sucks. But
I really don't want to lose here in America. We're
in New York. We're in peth Page. By the way,
this crowd loves Trump. I mean, this is a Greek crew.
They boo hocel the mayor of governor, the governor of

(28:10):
New York, and they just go crazy when Trump's there.
He walked Bryce into Shambeau to the tea box and
I don't even think he was supposed to, but I
just think he did. It was great. He just you know,
he's so excited for.

Speaker 2 (28:20):
The guys were doing the Trump dance.

Speaker 1 (28:21):
Yeah, yeah, you saw that. You saw the Trump dance.

Speaker 2 (28:24):
He looked a little funny with his gulf she was
hunt they're white shoes. I think he wanted to get
to the te tea box and take a swing.

Speaker 4 (28:30):
You know.

Speaker 1 (28:30):
I think the poor Secret Service, whose duty is to
protect him or thinking. I pray he doesn't follow him
for the eighteen holes, Like, if he follows Bryce, that's
going to be really hard for us. But anyway, I
don't know if you saw the pictures, folks, but they
have a sniper up on that in this dance.

Speaker 2 (28:44):
Oh yeah, it with a very large gun.

Speaker 1 (28:47):
Long and looks like it'd be dead accurate. I wouldn't
pull out a squirt gun at that Ryder Cup if
you're starting on your finger, No, I wouldn't even make
your finger look like one that That guy looks like
he is not being in business. So yeah, anyway, America's
got to come to The setback sets the stage for
the comeback. So we're we're going to see the comeback

(29:08):
for USA. Team USA is going to make. It's going
to stage a huge comeback.

Speaker 2 (29:11):
Am I going to be able to deal with you
on Monday if we lose?

Speaker 1 (29:15):
Only if Tom Homan deports all the American players that
failed us, and then I will be able to come in.
But if he doesn't, I will.

Speaker 2 (29:21):
You gotta be coming in well.

Speaker 1 (29:22):
Scotti, Scheffler's number one player in the world, has had
more birdies on the tour this year than any other player.
He didn't have one birdy in this two his morning
and afternoon. He's fundamentally not delivering for the United States
of America. And he very nice guy, seems to be
a nice guy. He needs to get his game face
on and get going well.

Speaker 2 (29:41):
Speaking of sports, and I think we were speaking at
sports just a moment ago. Interesting story surrounding a Chicago
Cubs baseball player who is getting who got some heat
as a better off fact this week for attending the
Charlie Kirk memorial.

Speaker 1 (29:57):
Yeah, when do we get when do we get tired
of this? When is this finally hit the tipping point
and we just turn everybody off and don't listen to
him anymore.

Speaker 2 (30:04):
Well, Matt Shaw, who is very close friends with Charlie,
apparently they've known each other for a long time. Both
have a strong faith in God and Jesus Christ, got
a text message from Erica inviting him, asking him to
come to the funeral because he was such good friends
with Charlie Kirk. Right, So Matt Shaw said, sure, I will,

(30:26):
and he checked with the team. He ran it past
everybody on the team, upper management, the coach, and they
said we understand.

Speaker 4 (30:32):
Go.

Speaker 2 (30:32):
Well he went. And apparently it caused, you know, a
real dust up because with the Chicago media and the
New York Mets media. Okay, because basically they said, you're
in a tight race and you're leaving to go to
a friend's funeral. Here's what Here's Gary Cohen. Now. Gary
Cohen is the play by play announcer for the Mets
when Shaw came back and played on Tuesday night, and

(30:55):
he brought up this fact. Listen to Cohen's response to this.

Speaker 8 (31:00):
Shaw had Cubs World in at Chizzy this weekend, but
he was not here for the Cubs game with the
Reds game they lost one nothing and in which his
lack of presence was felt. Was later revealed that he
had been given permission to attend Charlie Kirk's funeral. And

(31:21):
I don't want to talk about any of the politics
of it, but the thought of leaving her team in
the middle of a race for any reason other than
a family emergency really strikes me as weird.

Speaker 2 (31:35):
He is talking politics, isn't he? Greg? Is he talking politics?
I don't want to talk politics about this. Well, that's
exactly what Gary Cohen was doing.

Speaker 1 (31:42):
The way his friend Charlie Kirk was assassinating and brewly murdered.
I think that I know this Cohen character can't get
his head around it, but I think most of America
can and we understand completely.

Speaker 4 (31:53):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (31:54):
Well, Matt Shaw was in the locker room after the
game and he was asked about this and if he
was concerned at all about the politics of it.

Speaker 9 (32:01):
Yeah, I mean absolutely, I'm not concerned at all though.
You know, my connection with Ternlie was through our faith.
That's something that drives me every day. That's the reason
why I'm able to do what I do every day,
and that's something I'm extremely thankful for.

Speaker 1 (32:14):
You know.

Speaker 9 (32:14):
I know, without my faith and without the many blessings
I've been given in my life, that I wouldn't be here,
able to talk to you guys, able to help this
team eventually go and win championships. So that's something I
feel really really blessed about. So, you know, whatever backlash
comes is is okay. You know, I feel I feel
strong about my faith and that that what was meant
to be happened.

Speaker 2 (32:35):
Now, you know the Cup, the Cup management approved it
so that he could go. Now, little hypocrisy, we're just
talking about that right on the part of Gary Cohen,
who's the Mets play by play guy. He had he
asked for permission not to do a game because his
cat died.

Speaker 1 (32:51):
Seriously, Yeah, it's true. Does that fit his family emergency definition?
So yeah, that even makes uh, the attendants of your
friend's assassination even worse if you want to take off
time because especially because it's a cat. If it was
a dog, I could see it. Yeah, like a dog
has personality. Cat just looks at you like, are you

(33:12):
still around? Were you gonna feed me? Why are you here?

Speaker 6 (33:14):
Why you?

Speaker 1 (33:15):
Cats don't even like you, You're just tolerate.

Speaker 2 (33:17):
I don't think cats like humans.

Speaker 1 (33:19):
They don't. They just tolerate humans. I don't know what
the fascination with cats are period, because I don't find
them to be really friendly. Dogs though, Oh dogs love
you to death. My dog, my dog Ruby, She's just
a sweetee.

Speaker 2 (33:32):
But so here he is criticizing Matt Shaw for getting
permission to leave the team to go to Charlie Kirk's funeral,
very very good friend. As a matter of fact, like
I said, invited by Erica to go to Charlie's funeral,
He gets all the permission, he comes back, and he
gets criticized, and as as Gary Cohen said, well, cub
fans are in a tizzy over this. No they aren't.

(33:54):
They understand that.

Speaker 1 (33:55):
Don't you think if I think you would have an
easier time, count the liberals, leftists or liberals and democrats
that you know in your life that are not hypocrites,
that they are fewer in number than those that are
just raging hypocrites with selective logic and selective outrage. I
mean the double standard that is now, if you're raising
a little kid and you want to say, hey, you know,

(34:18):
treat others you want to be treated, and you know,
don't do this, you wouldn't want it done to you.
I mean, these are fundamental lessons taught at an early age.
If you're a leftist, you subscribed to none of that.
It's I can do anything I want to my political
enemy because the end justifies means. And then you we
have a sub a predetermined conduct list of things you
can and can't do. How dare you offend? If you're

(34:39):
right of center or you're not, you don't subscribe to
our worldview. It's also hypocritical, is actually almost a nice
way to put it. But show me a leftist or
a liberal that isn't a hypocrite. I think it's easier
to count, though I'm sure that I know I know
a couple that would follow fit in that description for me,
But I know far more that are like this character
this baseball announcement.

Speaker 2 (35:00):
Well, just look at what's happened Greg in the last
twenty four hours with Comy. All these Democrats are saying, well,
he's just heu for vengeance, that's all. This isn't about justice.
James Comy did everything he could, including creating fake documents
and lying to people, to get Donald Trump. I don't
know what it was about Trump. I know you have

(35:20):
a theory. Maybe when we come back, we'll talk about
your theory on this. But for people to say, well,
you know he's doing this out of vengeance, it's revenge.
Donald Trump is doing nothing wrong, he believes, and the
evidence is there that James Comy lied to Congress and
he should pay the price, and.

Speaker 1 (35:36):
That Donald trump're investigators, and here's the thing. Every time
they just go to the character of Donald Trump, and
they don't want to talk about the details of the indictment.
It's to give him cover so that they do this
on purpose. They don't want to talk about it's illegal
to light to Congress. Well did he lie? Well, this
is what he said. This is what we have that
shows otherwise. I mean, there's there's some very simple you

(35:58):
can you can not trust McKay, but can you not
trust the rest of the people that are saying the
same thing. There's a lot to discuss about the case.
But if you just start and end with Donald Trump's
authoritarian and he's weaponizing it, and that's all you want
to say, You're just trying to take the scrutiny off
of James Comy. You're trying to you want to make
it so that nobody's actually talking about what crimes he's

(36:19):
actually been indicted on and what the evidence shows. You
don't want to have that conversation because that's a much
more uncomfortable one than just saying Trump's just bad Trumps Trump's.

Speaker 2 (36:28):
Evil, you know what. And they won't have that conversation
on CNN, on MSNBC, ABC, CBS or ABC. None of
them will have that conversation. I dare an announce her
on any of those networks to ask a Democrat did
he lie?

Speaker 1 (36:43):
And then just go back in time and looking when
they indicted Trump, how many times all they talked about
was the so called evidence that led them to do it,
and how fair and honest it was, and no one's
above the law. On and on again. It just doesn't
there's just no consistency of how you approach people, situations
or crimes. They just have a situational logic and outrage.

Speaker 2 (37:04):
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Speaker 1 (37:26):
You have that app, you can use the talkback button
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Speaker 2 (37:30):
Next listener of ours question our characterization this weekend as
the best sports weekend ever. Here's what he had to say.

Speaker 9 (37:40):
Hey, guys, you your description of the weekend with some
great sports is true.

Speaker 2 (37:47):
Although I do have one question.

Speaker 1 (37:49):
Is is golf really a sport?

Speaker 3 (37:53):
Do you?

Speaker 1 (37:53):
Hey?

Speaker 2 (37:54):
Yeah, it's a sport.

Speaker 1 (37:55):
It's the only one I play anymore. That's it. I
like you play pickleball and golf. Actually your golf game
is suffered because you play too much pickleball.

Speaker 2 (38:02):
Yeah, we haven't played for six months. You don't know.
I could be a scratch golfer.

Speaker 1 (38:06):
You've been avoiding me. You don't want to play. You
play too avoiding you. Yeah, you don't want to whoop you?

Speaker 2 (38:12):
You're such a demon on the golf course.

Speaker 1 (38:15):
Yeah, I you know.

Speaker 2 (38:16):
How many do you take on that?

Speaker 1 (38:17):
I don't take it. I don't think that is so
made up. I do not take mully's on the any
of them. I don't. I never take a mull again.
I don't. What are you laughing at.

Speaker 2 (38:26):
I've seen you you.

Speaker 1 (38:28):
That that's not true. I don't.

Speaker 2 (38:31):
My wife who used to play golf, she hadn't played
golf for a while. We always use kid her because
she did an automatic reload before the ball left the tea.
She was reaching for another ball to hit a better shot.

Speaker 1 (38:43):
Well, I've had friends that are like a walking driving range.

Speaker 2 (38:46):
Yes, you occasionally get like that. I've seen you do.

Speaker 1 (38:48):
Oh my gosh, that is our listeners are going to
think you're telling the truth.

Speaker 2 (38:52):
I don't do that. We don't lie on this show.

Speaker 1 (38:54):
No all. I will say, on the first tea of
breakfast Ball in the morning, if you've hit one kind
of a on the first t box, there's a you're
always entitled to a breakfast ball.

Speaker 2 (39:04):
But after that breakfast ball for one hole, not for dying.

Speaker 1 (39:10):
That's not true. But golf is a sport I will
confirm you, yes, But it is a sport where you
can be in a cart, you can sip on a
diet coke, and you are immersed in sports. Actually, I
love to play. I actually love to watch it. I
think watching golf is a lot of fun too, especially
when you get to the Ryder Cup and it's a team.

Speaker 2 (39:26):
So the major tournaments will watch all they have tournaments everywhere.

Speaker 1 (39:31):
Yeah, I can. I can watch all of it. Really,
I'll do the major ones I like. I like to
watch golf.

Speaker 10 (39:36):
I like.

Speaker 1 (39:36):
But the favorite is the is the Ryder Cup and
the President's Cup. See America plays has a team every
year and one year will play the Europeans and the
next year will play every country.

Speaker 2 (39:45):
That is a world Yeah.

Speaker 1 (39:48):
But but yeah, I like it because that's a sports.
There are our callers.

Speaker 2 (39:53):
Question it is all right eight eight eight five seven
eight zero one zero on your cell phone, dial pound
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talks talk bag message. We can talk about so many
things as we kimmel comy.

Speaker 1 (40:05):
Yeah. Actually, the Supreme Court game Cord gave today said, yeah,
you can't cut that four and eight if you want,
that's four billion dollars no tax para. Money doesn't have
to go to worthless things.

Speaker 2 (40:16):
Yeah, so let's go to the phones today and see
what you have to say. Let's talk to David who's
in Holiday tonight. David, how are you welcome to the
Rotten Greg Show?

Speaker 10 (40:24):
Well, thank you for taking my call. I do like
your show, listen to it regularly. I buber comment of
the previous where Greg was saying that cats are not
liking the human I had a cat. I had a
cat named Toulouse, and that's the to louse the trek
because the cat would scratch things in the sand and

(40:45):
then dr to Mi mink designs and things. Okay, and
then anyway, if you scratched, if you scrutched off a
plastic bag and you got to make a ball out
of it, and you would throw it and the cat
would go and chase it. He chased it once, he
chased it twice, he chased it three times, and then
he'd pick it up and he'd look at me and
he'd go boom. He'd drop it and he wouldn't bring
it back to me. Other than that, he always would
ring it back. Now, he'd loved to jump. But one

(41:08):
of the main things is when I got home with
my work truck, he heard me down the street and
he would run all the way out to the street
and watch me. I had to back in the driveway,
and I would back in the driveway and I would
get out, open the door, and he would jump in
the truck and say hello. Now, one more.

Speaker 1 (41:23):
Thing, I reject the story that I've never seen a cat, David.
He's a dog that looked like a cat.

Speaker 3 (41:35):
You're that's good.

Speaker 10 (41:36):
I love it.

Speaker 9 (41:37):
I love it.

Speaker 10 (41:38):
Well. He did eat some poison and he died. When
he was dying, I was with him, and I was
laying down on the floor. His eyes were in my eyes.
My eyes were in his eyes, and I talked to him,
and that lasted about at that point, it lasted about
an hour a little about an hour hour and fifteen
minutes because he was really gone. But he'd unfortunately escaped
and got under this house I was working on and

(42:00):
some rat poison. That's it's too bad. But the point is,
all the way until he died, we had eye connection
and I told him and he continued to look at me,
and he continued to breathe as best as he could.

Speaker 1 (42:14):
That was a small breed dog, David.

Speaker 2 (42:17):
You don't, I don't small dog. That cat. That cat
had a little dog in.

Speaker 10 (42:25):
A dog.

Speaker 1 (42:26):
Thank you, David, thank you, thank you.

Speaker 2 (42:29):
Appreciate, appreciate your.

Speaker 1 (42:30):
Beautiful story about him. But if a cat runs, here's
your truck and runs to you and jumps in the
truck to say the pick up, say you that is
not a cat? That is that is the actual less
that's the test, whether it's a dog or a cat.

Speaker 2 (42:44):
He dogs to get his owner coming home the cat.

Speaker 1 (42:48):
Because cat's don't do that. Just David was tricked that
cat was That was a dog. It was probably a
very small breed of dog. But a very very sweet
story about and you know anyways, So yeah, I like
the I like the story. I just think that David
owned the dog and he didn't know it. He just
thought it was a cat. So it's probably smaller guys. Look,
he's in construction. He's a big guy. Right. If it's not,

(43:10):
if it's not a large breezed dog, he probably thinks
it's a cat, that's all you say. If it's like
a little Pomeranian. It's like, that's a cat. That's not
a dog. I know what a dog is. Dog is
like a German Shepherd or a labrador Labrador treatment. That's
a that's a that's a cat. No, that was a
that was a Pomeranian. That's what that was. His cats
do not chase you down the street.

Speaker 2 (43:32):
Dog.

Speaker 1 (43:37):
That cat was transitioning to a dog.

Speaker 2 (43:41):
That's cat was.

Speaker 1 (43:43):
You've politicized our pets. This is terrible. I don't think David.
I do not think that you're transition personally. I just
think that was a Pomeranian you had that you thought
was a cat because you're you're you're a tough guy.
You thought the big dogs were dogs. That's a cat.
That's a dog.

Speaker 2 (43:59):
You know what unfortunate about marrying my wife what she's
allergic to cats. Yeah, so we can't have any.

Speaker 1 (44:05):
You know why we don't have cats? Why because we
don't like cats. That's why we don't have that.

Speaker 2 (44:10):
Other reason like dogs. Some more coming up on the
Rod and Gregg Show in this Thank Rod this Friday.
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(44:31):
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Speaker 2 (44:36):
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Speaker 1 (44:38):
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Speaker 2 (44:49):
Yeah, all the time. So we're taking your calls or
we're taking your comments. On talkback. We were talking about
James Comy. Well this is one of our listeners had
to say about the Komy Institute invest.

Speaker 7 (45:00):
Yeah, this whole thing against Combe, we all knows for
not because the trial is going to happen in dark
blue Virginia anyway, and all they need is just one
person on the jury and the judge is going to
toss it all out. So, like I said, it's all
for not, So it's not gonna matter and justice won't

(45:21):
be served.

Speaker 1 (45:23):
I don't look, I don't disagree that that juries are
a jury of your peers is getting tougher and tougher
because if you get into an area where there's yeah,
I mean especially has anything to do with politics, they're
going to say, well, if you're a Democrat, you're scott free,
if you're if you're a Republican, you're you're guilty.

Speaker 2 (45:39):
Yeah. I Unfortunately, Greg, I think we've lost the days
of an impartial jury. I do too in many parts
of the cost.

Speaker 1 (45:46):
You know what, though this will sound probably like I'm
just being biased, but I actually think you have a
better chance in a Republican area of getting a fair
juror that's going to listen to it because they're liberty,
they're they're they're very sensitive to civic h our liberties
and and if if government would violate those your liberties,
you know, to to arrest you or to search your things.

(46:07):
I think there's a there's some of that year going
on with the Republican jury. Uh, not just gonna amen
corner what the government is looking to do. So I
think you're getting a little more of an impartial jury
that way. But he might he could be right. But
here's my here's here's what I'd say if we didn't
have any indictment, if we didn't have any indictments at all.

(46:28):
We have seen with our and we've heard with our
own ears, Comy saying I never author I never leaked anything,
I never authorized anything to be leaked. And then you
have documents that clearly and statements from people that worked
with him that say he authorized it over more than
once and more than one person. So people have been saying, okay, transparency,

(46:49):
we're seeing that they broke the law. Is there ever
going to be any accountability now if you have indictments
handed down to Comy. If we are first reaction to
that is it's they're never going to indict him. What's
the point. Well then, why or why have many people
been yelling, don't just tell me and show me that
he's broken the law, have some accountability, you know, do

(47:09):
something about it. People have been really clamoring that if
you're going to show us, if we're if you take
over administration and you find in burn bags and you
find evidence that people have broken the law, hold them accountable.
Our caller is not wrong that if you got to,
if you got a tough jury pool, likely they might
not let the evidence carry the day. But I think
this administration owes it to America that if you find

(47:30):
these things and you know the law has been broken,
you need to try that case. And and I'm all
about the evidence. Let's just talk about quittok telling me
that you don't like Trump. We got that, we've known
that for ten years. That that that's not a conversation.
Tell me where the indictment against Comy on its facts
are wrong. I tell you very clearly. You can see
there's contradicting testimony from McKay. But there's just more than

(47:52):
just him. There's this this you know, the Howard Baker,
whatever his name is, that his attorney is general. There's
many people. Let's get to it. Let's find it out.

Speaker 2 (48:03):
Well, let me add to that, Greg, I mean, go
back to the first administration, James Baker. Yeah, look at
look at the way let's start with Michael Flynn was treated.
Let's look at the way Steve Bannon was treated. Let's
trick the way Peter Navarro was treated. You talk about
weaponizing against you know, against your enemy. I mean you
go down the list, and the American people saw this,

(48:25):
especially you know us conservatives, we saw this. Go what's
going on here? So what's going on here. So we
find one person, really I think the key guy in
a lot of this and indict him, and you know,
the Democrats are now screaming bloody murder.

Speaker 1 (48:42):
And think about this, Bannon went. I believe that Bannon
saw prison time or jail time because he refused to
answer a congressional subpoena. Yeah, Eric Holder, when he was
Attorney General for Obama refused a congressional subpoena and nothing
out of him. You know, my Orcus impeached in the
House of Representatives as the you know, the cabinet member

(49:04):
of what hemeland security in the first time in Senate history.
They didn't try that impeachment and put that that trial
on and everybody just glazed over it. Oh, okay, I
guess we just don't do that anymore. Never It's never
happened in America before unless the person had died, so
they weren't subject to that that Senate hearing, the trial
in the Senate. But this time the Senate broke the

(49:25):
Democrats who ran the Senate and the majority, broke all precedent,
all rules, and simply wouldn't even hold the trial. From
my orcas, I don't hear that ever brought up in
terms of threats to democracy, threats to our government, threats
or threats to America, and it's and it's rule of law.
It's they just don't. And so I just think, look,
I think there's some pretty clear things that have happened

(49:46):
that we all know about. I think justice needs to
be served. I think you have to try. But look,
even when Durham took these cases on himself, he didn't
have his people that he did it himself. He couldn't
in DC, he could not get a conviction and he
had people red handed. Yeah, he couldn't get that conviction.
So there's probably some truth to that. But I still
think this Trump administration, a lot of people would say,

(50:06):
you're just long on lip service. If you're going to
show us everything you said they did wrong and illegal,
but you never did anything to try and see that
justice was served. So I think it's good that they're
pursuing justice.

Speaker 2 (50:16):
Yeah, and I you know, the President said today this justice,
it's our revenge, it's justice. And I think that's what
he's bringing to the table.

Speaker 1 (50:22):
And you know, you notice how they don't there they're
apologists and Clapper and everybody else. They don't go into
any of the details of the indictment itself or where
it's wrong. They just say Trump's just bad, He's just
it's just revenge. They just want to go back to
how much they dislike Trump.

Speaker 2 (50:38):
Yeah, we all comes down to that, all right. More
coming up on the Rod and Greg Show in Utah's
Talk Radio one O five nine k NRS. Greg Hughes
and I'm Rod our kid. This is a quite a
story that we talked about a little bit earlier today
before the show started, Greg, But can you believe this?
The superintendent of a school district in the state's capital,

(50:59):
the state capital wain, Iowa, was detained or has been
detained today by federal immigration authorities who say he's been
living and working in the United States without authorization. Here
the superintendent of public instruction in the city of Des Moines, Iowa.

Speaker 1 (51:20):
Yeah. So the report coming across from Ice is that
when they have presented themselves to him and showed their idea,
he fled. He got in his car and uh and
and tried to get away. Uh and then he abandoned
the car and kept trying to run, and he was
found about two hundred yards away anyway, they with the

(51:41):
help of state police and canines and had had a
loaded weapon on him. He had a hunting knife, a
fixed blade hunting knife, and three thousand dollars cash. That's
that's the kind of superintendent you want with your kids.
That's a guy that's really inspiring these kids. That's like
a dead poet society stuff right there, just getting kid

(52:01):
these kids ready for life.

Speaker 2 (52:02):
Well, his name is Ian Roberts. He received a deportion
or a deportation order from an immigration judge back in
May of twenty twenty four. The story behind him is
the fact that this what they're reporting today. He entered
the US back in nineteen ninety nine on a student visa, Okay,
ice official said, and had no work authorization. He was

(52:22):
born in Guyana had faced weapon possession charges from twenty twenty,
though they did not provide any more details. So, how
on earth does this guy become a school superintendent being
in the country illegally with a weapons charge against it.
Did anyone bother to look at his record? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (52:41):
I mean, I don't know if you're vetting your candidates
for superintendent very well. I think the guy with a
gun charge from twenty twenty here not not able to
be here illegally? Does he have to commit a danny
theft to shit a paycheck at that point?

Speaker 2 (52:55):
Or do you do you get a bank account? I
don't know how does he get anything?

Speaker 1 (53:00):
Well, whatever it was, it did catch the attention of
ICE and I think that moments like this, where you
have a person with a criminal record, they are the
superintendent of a school in Des Moines, Iowa, capital city
of a state, it shows how pervasive this illegal You know,
it's amazing illegal entry is and it's you know, you
got to enforced the law. It is not oppression to

(53:21):
enforce the law in this country. Period, It's just not
that hard. I'm against murder, I'm against breaking the law.
I'm for enforcing the law.

Speaker 3 (53:31):
Period.

Speaker 2 (53:32):
That's a period.

Speaker 1 (53:34):
Yeah, it's not depending on your political affiliation or your opinion. No, No,
we want the law enforced and we are against murder.
That's kind of where we're at nowadays. Calls crazy.

Speaker 2 (53:44):
Uh, speaking of crazy, I want to wrap up and
we love Doug and Sport. Yeah yeah, yeah, I want
to wrap up this hour with another crazy story.

Speaker 1 (53:53):
You love this ready.

Speaker 2 (53:54):
A Japanese man has smashed the record for the fastest
one hundred meters run pretty good, right, excellent? Well on
all fours?

Speaker 1 (54:04):
What and you know you keep telling me the happiest
state in America is white.

Speaker 4 (54:09):
Lie.

Speaker 1 (54:10):
Yeah, now you're telling me the guy broke a one record.

Speaker 2 (54:15):
Yeah, he's twenty two years old. He set a new
record for wunning running one hundred meters well on all
fours like an animal, and he did it in fourteen
point five five seconds.

Speaker 1 (54:27):
So the record is for anyone who'd want to run
on all fours one hundred meters. It wasn't that people
on two feet. He was beating them on all four
feet lake.

Speaker 2 (54:36):
Yeah, apparently in a record. An American held the previous record,
but this guy apparently studied animals how they run, and
he now owns the world record of running the fastest
on all fours.

Speaker 1 (54:50):
That is a made up record, and that they have
too much time on their hands to be beating those
kind of records.

Speaker 2 (54:57):
The most bizarre.

Speaker 1 (54:58):
I know, why don't you go look up super tenants
and schools and see if they're heroes legally. I think
that's better than winning the four legged uh one meter record.

Speaker 2 (55:06):
That's a bizarre story.

Speaker 1 (55:08):
That is that's very weird. Do you even find that?
I don't even know. I spend the news all day.
I never see anything weird.

Speaker 2 (55:14):
I have news sources from.

Speaker 1 (55:16):
And you got a roll index. Yeah, second to.

Speaker 2 (55:18):
Nine people sending me stories. Hey, Rod, just see this
whack one.

Speaker 1 (55:23):
Yeah, that's a fake story.

Speaker 2 (55:24):
There, it's a real story.

Speaker 1 (55:26):
I know. I just think it's sad.

Speaker 2 (55:27):
I don't know that it's not from you know, some
whack job of up.

Speaker 1 (55:32):
I don't think it's It's great commentary of how people
are spending their time. There's more to be done.

Speaker 2 (55:38):
Studied animals. He ran like one.

Speaker 1 (55:40):
I got that one.

Speaker 2 (55:42):
I bet your dog could run it faster than this
guy did.

Speaker 4 (55:44):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (55:44):
My dog Ruby, she she could run. Well, she's getting
a little older, she's getting a little tougher down. Yeah,
slowing down a little.

Speaker 11 (55:50):
Bit, all right?

Speaker 2 (55:52):
Coming up next, What is it like when you sit
down and talk to the education secretary who may soon
be without a job? People talk about it.

Speaker 11 (56:00):
Coming out to stay with us.

Speaker 2 (56:16):
The Friday edition of The Roden greg Show on Talk
Radio five nine k and rs live everywhere on the
iHeart or radio app. You have returned from Southern Utah.

Speaker 1 (56:27):
Yes, I love it.

Speaker 2 (56:28):
The sheriff.

Speaker 1 (56:29):
Oh yeah, all the whole experience very very positive, and
the state's heading in the right direction and so on
so many fronts. It's good to get around the state
a little bit.

Speaker 3 (56:37):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (56:38):
Well, you know, law enforcement played such a critical role
and investigating the assassination of Charlie Kirk. And there are
a number of people, including someone we talked to earlier
this week, are working to, you know, erect a memorial
to Charlie Kirk on the UVU campus. And I support
the idea, Greg.

Speaker 1 (56:53):
I do too. I think that and we've had our
callers call in, maybe even more than one, but certainly
on the campus of Utah Valley University. There should be
something to memorialize the life and the work of Charlie Kirk.
He's he's someone that has been incredible, as impactful of
a person as I know that's not elected, who's not
doesn't have a position in some big company or anything

(57:14):
like that. He was just a he wanted to talk
and he wanted to dialogue and I don't know his
equal really Yeah.

Speaker 2 (57:19):
Yeah, Well, we spoke earlier this week with stage sender
Dan McKay. He is leading the charge to get a
memorial in place at Uvu to honor Charlie Kirk, and
we asked him about his efforts and how they're going.

Speaker 3 (57:30):
Literally on that night, you know, after Charlie was murdered,
it kind of hit me that, like Utah now has
this in her footnotes of things that happened in Utah
that were notable, you know, you know, I hear about

(57:51):
I could go down the list of things that we've
been infamous for or you know, or in our footnotes,
you know, and some are things we want to be
known for or not. And I think when I think
back on this, it's like we've got this tragedy that
happened in our community and there's real loss. How are
we going to turn this into, you know, into something

(58:14):
like his memorial was where it was a celebration of
his life, and extend that to how do we find
a memorial that becomes a celebration of the principles that
he stood for and be about those principles and focused
on those principles. Because I truly think what Charlie mostly,

(58:34):
you know, he said he wanted to be known for
his faith, and he said he wanted to be known
for having conversations. Because when conversations stopped, that's when the
violence starts. And I have I literally that night, I
just stayed up all night, and I will tell you
I really felt inspired that we should just start fundraising
for it so that it could be privately funded and

(58:56):
that the university didn't have any obstacles to you know,
to executing on a on a good memorial. And you know,
we've raised one hundred and twenty thousand dollars now in
that memori in that memorial fund and then gives end
go fun site and that's been amazing. But in addition
to that, I've had private donors reach out to me

(59:16):
who tell me, trust me, money is not going to
be a problem. And I've just been so impressed by
the people that have done that.

Speaker 2 (59:24):
Yeah, that's great sender. If in fact this memorial takes place,
and I sure do hope it does, and I think
Greg feels the same way. If we get it set
up at U View there on the campus, what do
you think it will say not only to students, but
to the entire state of Utah and really to the
rest of the country this nation about the fact that
we are going to honor Charlie Kirk despite the tragedy

(59:44):
that happened here. What is it going to say in
your opinion, Well, what.

Speaker 3 (59:49):
I hope it says is that it becomes an enduring
invitation for people to keep talking. I think the problem
we have now is it's easy to say seeing that
are you know, I don't know. Inflammatory is not a
great word. But you can say things to people online
because all you're doing is you're saying these things through

(01:00:10):
the keyboard to text on a screen. It's not a
person that's sitting across from you. And the conversation is
always better when two people are sitting across from each
other and having an active conversation. I can have, you know,
my far far left friend or family member. We can
sit and have reasonable conversations with each other, you know,

(01:00:32):
in person. But boy, you watch that person online and
it is just so hard to realize to even want
to have that conversation or even get in the middle
of it online. It's so much better in person. I
want I want this memorial to be an invitation for
us to continue conversations that may be hard and are
definitely can be contentious, but they can be respectful, and

(01:00:55):
they can be civil, and they can solve problems together.

Speaker 1 (01:00:57):
You know, Senator, there was a does Right News poll
that showed that, And this makes all the sense and
the rule to me that utons are tracking this political
assassination a lot closer than the rest of America, and
a lot of America, well over fifty percent of America
is tracking it very closely. We're obviously in the upper
sixty percentile. So this has hit our state and people
in our state very personally. I thought that the memorial

(01:01:19):
on Sunday was a spiritual experience that in twenty twenty
five I didn't think I would ever see, and so
that was incredible moving. So my question is, given the
attention that this has brought to our state, given that
utons are tracking this very closely, and this is an
intensely personal, personal thing, and even given the momentum that
Turning Point USA and Charlie Kirk's legacy brought to us

(01:01:43):
on Sunday, what is your feelings about the future of
that kind of dialogue here in the state of Utah
going forward? Do we have a chance to continue what
Charlie started?

Speaker 3 (01:01:54):
Absolutely, and I think there's a lot of hope when
I'm already hearing from young people is sixteen seventeen, eighteen nineteen.
You've seen more attention to especially locally here in Utah.
I've seen more attention to Charlie Kirk videos. Charlie Kirk,
you know, quotes, these kinds of things. And Charlie Kirk

(01:02:17):
was a principled conservative, but he was a principled person
that was centerted around his faith. That memorial was amazing
to hear the leaders of our country right top to bottom,
hear them talking about their faith. They don't really get
to talk about that or do that, or they don't
do that much in a public sphere because people tend

(01:02:38):
to shy away from confusing politics and religion, right, And
so it was I thought it was refreshing for our
young people. There were millions of people watching that memorial
and they were of all ages. And I think, honestly,
I don't think we can highlight enough what this is
going to do for engagement of our young people with

(01:03:01):
the political process. And I think in a lot of
ways it has brought people who thought they were in
the minority because they were conservative right out to the
front and make them feel like their opinions belong in
the public sphere. And I'm so grateful for that being
an end result potentially of you know, of the tragedy.

Speaker 2 (01:03:21):
States under Dan McKay talking about a memorial for Charlie Kirk.
I couldn't believe there's some people who opposed the idea
and there was a petition.

Speaker 1 (01:03:28):
They're the same goals that celebrated at Charlie Kirk's murder.
So I don't I don't give it any stock, no credit.

Speaker 2 (01:03:34):
Yeah, no credit whatsoever. All Right, more of the Rod
and Greg chopin this Friday edition right here on Talk
radio one oh five nine can us. Here's a news update.